Sept. 23, 2017 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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All right, an incredible segment by Sean Bergen to be followed up by more great content now from another one of our correspondents, the great Jim Lancia, former police officer.
You know, Jim, the author of Downtown White Police.
Jim, of course, the topic tonight is St. Louis, specifically Black Lives Matter and Antifa.
Generally, Sean broke down the nuts and bolts of what's going on in St. Louis.
So we don't have to go through that again.
We know what's in play and what excuse and anything's an excuse now for these paid activists to come out and riot and loot and vandalize.
But so what I have to, we don't have to reestablish the situation.
What I want to go straight to you for, Jim, is just your takeaways.
Once again, from the position and the perspective of a man who spent his career in law enforcement.
As you watch this as a former police officer, what do you feel?
And again, convey to the audience your takeaways and observations.
Sure, James.
Well, again, this is something that has occurred over and over and over again, especially more recently since Black Lives Matter and Antifa have come out onto the stage.
We know they're paid anarchists.
We know they're not out for any type of social justice, as they would put it.
But they're paid and they're paid to make the most trouble that they possibly can.
Now, there's so many things that come about with this.
First of all, you have, like I said, like you said, Sean put it very eloquently, so I'm not going to go into that.
But city of St. Louis just passed a resolution to honor this Anthony Lamar Smith.
You guys are aware of that, right?
They're honoring this drug dealer, and not to mention the fact that the family got a $900,000 payday for some type of wrongful death for that shooting, which is incredible.
Talk about glorifying bugs.
I mean, they actually honored him in a resolution just recently.
And another thing that results is Jason Stockley, a good police officer, left the department.
So now you have one less decent cop out there who's willing to get involved and take these guys off the street.
And again, Black Lives Matter and Tifa, all these stupid white people with signs up.
I've never seen these signs before that say white silence equals white violence.
I mean, it would be comical if it wasn't so destructive.
I mean, it's incredible.
Even if you stay out of the picture and don't say anything, you're complicit in some type of violence against the almighty Negro.
It's amazing.
It really is.
And these drug dealers are the very people that destroy the black community.
But again, they lay it on a white police officer who's willing to engage, willing to take these jerks off the street.
And this is what happened.
And the other thing that bothers me is that they had a fair trial.
The judge found them not guilty.
That's the way our system works.
I can't tell you how many times thugs and murderers and drug dealers get off on their crimes, you know, when they're definitely guilty, but they get off for lack of evidence or witness intimidation.
Nobody ever cares about any injustice there.
But again, we lose a good cop, and another criminal gets glorified.
Well, let's talk about this, Jim.
Of course, it's not an isolated incident.
As we said, and as you heard listening into the second hour, you and Sean are heart commodities on this show because we bring you on to talk about these issues.
And it's happening so much now, it's hardly even newsworthy just because of the consistency of it.
It happens all the time.
It happens everywhere across the country.
Pat Buchanan mentions just a couple of these recent examples.
Just within the last three weeks, here's what we've got in his most recent column entitled, Who Truly Imperils Our Society.
He writes, the statue of missionary and Catholic saint Friar Junior Pero Serra was beheaded at Santa Barbara Mission he founded.
A century-old Columbus statue in Central Park was defaced and spray-painted with hate will not be tolerated.
Baltimore's monument to Francis Scott Key, who observed the bombardment of Fort McHenry on a British warship late in the War of 1812 and was inspired to write the Star-Spangled Banner, was covered in red paint.
Racist anthem was written across it.
In Berkeley, the home of the so-called free speech movement, the University of the Last Week had to spend $600,000 just to protect an invited speaker of the college Republicans from being assaulted.
But St. Louis was where the real action was.
A mob hurled rocks and bottles, injuring numerous police officers, leaving one with a broken jaw.
They smashed windows at the mayor's residence and marched miles into the central West End to parade diners on patios of restaurants with the menacing chant of, quote, off the sidewalk into the street, end quote.
The mob later invaded and shut down a suburban mall, then smashed windows across a nightlife district.
And of course, as we know, the reason for that rationale was rage at a not guilty verdict in the murder trial of ex-cop Jason Stockley and the death of Anthony Lamar Smith in 2011.
I'll ask you the same question I asked Sean.
Are you happy, dissatisfied, just right?
Too hot, too cold?
What's your reaction to Trump's take or lack thereof, standard lack thereof on this issue?
Well, I'm a little disappointed with Donald Trump's take because, first of all, they made a huge issue about white nationalism, condemning it, actually legislating against it, which is incredible.
I actually, my heart sunk when I heard of that.
I mean, anybody who takes a stance on justice for white Europeans, like you guys were talking about before, is now labeled a Nazi in a white supremacist.
And for the president to go along with that, to be cajoled into going along with that, is leading to an even more nefarious result.
I mean, they are shutting down free speech of the white European.
And anytime you even mention the word white European, even whites cringe now.
Whites are afraid to even talk about it, even though it involves them.
And some of your worst critics, white worst critics, are other white liberals that actually just are triggered by anything white.
And so it has nothing to do with race, really.
It's that they're trying to shut down the white European race and voice.
And they're doing it.
They are very successful at it now.
I mean, we have to admit that.
It's not like we're giving up, but they're very successful at it.
Because I've never felt the lack of true free speech as I do now, especially when it comes to the rights of the majority white here.
But another thing that results from this is skyrocketing crime in every city that Black Lives Matter in Antifa, La Rot saw by any means necessary.
Remember, there's a lot more of these groups out there.
But crime spikes, on the low end of it, you get higher crime, ghettoization of American cities all over the place.
I mean, we are ghettoizing America.
We're worshiping the black male thug in everything, whether it's music, sports, or even in criminal activity, movies.
So, you know, instead of, and with the new Jim Crow talking about the new Jim Crow, I think I know why this police officer Jason Stockley elected not to have a jury of his peers for fear of a jury that would just lynch him just because he was a white police officer.
And he chose the judge, which was a smart decision because he felt it would just be by evidence and not by some black-jawed, racist jury.
I couldn't agree with you more.
Excellent, Jim.
You're really getting to the heart of the matter.
You put that superbly.
But we got to take a break, as you know.
And when we come back more with Jim Lancy, we got him for another segment.
In the meantime, check out his book, Downtown White Police, tells about his life on the streets of the beat that he walked up there in Connecticut, to Amazon.com, downtown White Police.
We'll be back.
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All right, so Jim, again, it's great to have both you and Sean Bergen as correspondents on this show because you both come from careers and professions that are quite germane.
Sean Bergen from the perspective of a media insider in so much as he was a television news reporter in the biggest market in the world in New York.
And then, of course, you from a law enforcement perspective, having had a lively and colorful career with real street experience.
And so to have him from the media's perspective, you from a law enforcement's perspective just really rounds out our crew in an amazing way.
So I want to get back with you.
I want to follow up and touch a little bit more on this because maybe you can answer this question and what powers the president would have, what would be legal, what would be overstretched.
I don't want to be a hypocrite here.
You know, certainly we decried the what I consider to be unconstitutional actions in the 60s where the president mobilized the National Guard to enforce unconstitutional laws in the South.
And of course, nothing was ever said about that by the media.
They cheered it.
So we can't say, well, we were against that, but we are for Trump doing the same.
On the other hand, I guess what's good for the goose can be good for the gander sometimes.
But what you have here is what I believe, and James O'Keefe has reported on this, and there have been others.
I think it's at least worth an investigation.
You have what very well may be a terrorist group.
I think you could argue that Antifa and Black Lives Matter could qualify as terrorist groups that are receiving funding, it would appear.
So if we're going to go around the world and cut off funding to terrorists, why don't we start right here in the heartland?
What power would the president have?
I know Trump can't go to the local police station in St. Louis and start calling the shots.
What power could he have to really, really end this in a demonstrative way?
Well, he does have the power, actually.
And it's a little bit different when you're talking about active destruction of American cities.
You can absolutely use a different type of force there.
I mean, you're not talking about protesting.
Okay, we're talking about shutting cities down and destruction of cities and doing bodily harm to people, as well as the police officers.
So not only do the police department have a right, well, I think they made 120 arrests there, but as far as Trump, he can absolutely, no, Antifa, Black Lives Matter, these are terrorist groups by any definition.
In fact, they're much more of a danger to American citizens here on U.S. soil than ISIS is here.
Okay, now that's a fact.
I agree.
I agree.
That's a powerful statement.
That's a powerful statement, and it's worthy of emphasis and being repeated.
What Jim Lanzi has said, what I agree with, is that Antifa and Black Lives Matter are a greater threat to the average American citizen than ISIS.
Absolutely.
And destruction that they've already manifested.
I mean, this is real destruction, real threats to our freedoms and, you know, even to our safety and to just the regular running of our country.
And it's disruptive.
And it's absolutely something the president can do something about.
Why he has it.
Of course, now we have two different administrations.
Under Obama, he coddled Black Lives Matter.
He treated them as dignitaries.
I mean, that is, we have to endure that for so long.
Now, Trump, President Trump can absolutely do something.
Now, of course, every protest Black Lives Matter and FIPA does doesn't warrant the National Guard.
But when they persist for days and days and result in huge amounts of damage, there should be some cutoff time where something like the National Guard should be called in and really start cracking down.
I'm not just talking standing around there holding their guns, but it's a real crackdown.
Now, answer me this, and I hope this isn't an ignorant question, but with regards to the National Guard, now we know in the South, the president called in the National Guard.
Could the governor of Missouri call in the National Guard?
Could he mobilize the Guard or does he only have control over state entities?
Well, the National Guard is definitely under his control.
All right, so if the governor of Missouri chooses to do that, then we'd be all for it.
And we wouldn't have any constitutional qualms.
Oh, absolutely.
The governor is usually the one who would call out the National Guard.
Okay, exactly.
Exactly.
Entity.
Of course, because we saw that with McCullough in Charlottesville.
Right.
Now, that was a whole different entity over there.
No kidding.
Complete misuse of law enforcement over there.
But yes, you can call out the National Guard.
I think the St. Louis PD would be able to handle it also.
See, I don't think it ever has to escalate to such an extreme.
I think the St. Louis Police Department and some of the.
Well, and that's what I'm talking about.
Yeah, that's what we're talking about.
So here you were, and nobody better in our asset of contributors to talk about this than you because you did this.
I mean, you didn't sit behind a desk.
You walked some of the roughest streets in the country, as we often say, during the height of the crack epidemic.
We talk about the warrants you served, patrolling the crack houses and the crack deaths.
Surely a week of lawlessness and rampage is enough.
Why have not the St. Louis Police Department bonked some heads?
I guess they're scared like everyone else of being called racist.
Well, that's the thing.
I mean, I've dispersed crowds of 100 people myself, me and my partner.
So two cops can do it even angry after throwing bricks and everything else.
But with the Black Lives Matter thing, they've become so political and have so much backing.
And most of the politicians are so afraid to criticize what they're doing, which is such cowards.
The cops are just, they're acting in the same manner.
They don't know what to do anymore.
There's nothing that would burn an inner city cop out faster than exactly what they're doing.
They're becoming, they don't know what to do anymore.
They feel if they do their job, they're going to put themselves in a position not only of danger, which most of the time.
They'll be the next Jason Stockley.
Yeah, they'll be the next Stockley.
They'll be the next Darren Wilson.
Exactly.
That this can be stopped easily, but they got so much clout.
Why?
They're backed by powerful people.
They're being paid.
Otherwise, they wouldn't even care about this drug dealer that got shot.
They're all being paid.
This is a destructive entity.
They are terrorist groups, and the president should infiltrate them, just like he infiltrated all the other groups.
And there's a lot more they can do.
The FBI can investigate.
But more importantly, the state can handle this, not only with their own large police departments with state police help, but they also have the use of the National Guard.
You don't need the president's permission for that.
A governor can do it.
I don't think it has to be done for every Black Lives Matter protest, but something like in St. Louis, if that doesn't stop, you know, maybe they should be called out.
But I just think they got to get the cops to crackheads again.
And I bet a lot of these protests would never get out of hand.
They just have no fear.
They have no fear of any real crackdown.
So if they're like throwing a temper tantrum, they'll get away with as much as you let them get away with.
And they're doing stealing it out.
And these are all, they're feeling it out every time they do one of these riots.
How much more can they get away with?
You know?
Well, it's like an insolent child.
The more and more you let them show out, the further they'll take it until they receive some discipline.
And I would have to imagine, and I know you have to be knowing this, Jim, that the morale and the police officers, of the police officers in these inner cities has got to be at the bottom of the barrel.
And the new boss, Frankly Trump, has been the same as the old boss in allowing this to occur for so long.
I mean, yes, Sean's right.
He's not inviting them to the White House.
But, I mean, come on, nine days a week?
I mean, enough's enough.
Well, absolutely.
I mean, he can definitely condemn it a lot more.
We need to get a culture of back to not allowing this type of stuff to happen.
And talk about being demoralized.
I think eventually they just want all the good cops to leave so they can fill it with ignoramuses, and then there will be complete lawlessness on the street, which would usher in the need for a stricter, maybe more federalized, militarized police force to stop, you know, of course, rising crime rates.
Look at Sweden.
If you saw, there was a poll there.
80% of the police forces in Sweden want to leave the job.
Believe it or not, first of all, they can't compare to American cops, but they want to leave the job because of the migrant crisis because they're not allowed to do anything.
They can't handle it.
What would happen, Jim?
No, and listen, I don't want to cut you off, brother.
We got another guest coming on right after you.
We're going to have to put a bookend on it right there, put a bookmark in the conversation, but we'll have you back on as soon as you're available because these situations, once they start happening, they seem to snowball.
We'll be back.
Thank you, Jim.
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All right, everybody.
Last 30 minutes of the show now upon us.
So lucky to have such quality people on our staff.
People like former television news reporter Sean Bergen and, of course, former now retired police officer Jim Lancia to break down the situation in St. Louis.
They're always on to talk about matters of Black Lives Matter thuggery and terrorism, whether it's here or abroad.
But the featured guest of the night is my good friend and yours, Sam Dixon, a man who just needs no introduction.
Sam, thanks for spending some of your Saturday night with us.
I'm glad to do it.
Thanks for having me on.
I hope you're well.
I am well.
I hope you are too.
So there, where you live in Atlanta, Sam, had some recent action at Georgia Tech.
Now, I know we're going to be talking about Antifa in general a little bit with your segment, but do you know, can you fill in the blanks on what happened there at Georgia Tech?
Because there was some unrest there as well this week.
There was a mentally ill student who was involved in left-wing activities.
He apparently has quite a history of Bettalilla.
And he called the police and said he had a knife and that he was going to kill himself or hurt other people and told them they better get to the campus.
Well, they went to campus and they encountered this guy who had about a short, short knife, maybe three inches, two inches, and was tuning demanding that the cops shoot him.
He apparently made references that he wanted suicide by a cop before he set this thing up.
So anyway, one of the policemen eventually did shoot him and did kill him.
And this, of course, has enraged the Antifa.
The Antifa went to the campus and had a lot of their escapades.
And among other things, they threw a Molotov cocktail at a police car and set it on fire.
They rampaged around with the usual stuff.
And they are carrying on the internet about the police and what they're going to do and this sort of thing.
Well, did the police officer just oblige his request to be shot or what exactly did they do?
Well, you know, I have my liberal side.
And, you know, somebody has a two-edged knife, and then I'm actually stabbing you, and I think, you know, they should be subdued in other ways.
But then I wasn't there.
I don't know what the police officer really was facing.
I don't know if this lunatic attacked the policeman.
But, you know, I have an open mind in general.
I'm favorable to the police.
I think, you know, even though there are problems enough with them, it's a choice between anarchy and police.
I'll take the police any day of the year.
And I'll take it down.
Well, no, I understand what you're saying, and I appreciate you saying it.
And I guess the point in bringing this story up on the show tonight wasn't so much the interaction between the police and this individual, even though a death occurred.
It was, of course, what happened afterwards and the lawlessness there in the Georgia Tech vicinity and Atlanta at large that followed for the next couple of days, which I guess brings us to the broader topic of Antifa violence and terrorism, lawlessness, whatever you want to call it, in general.
And that I know you wanted to particularly touch on.
So what about Antifa, Sam, has raised your eyebrows in recent days?
No shortage of subject matter there.
Well, I've been interested for a long time.
I was familiar with their activities in Great Britain before they got really cranked up here.
The people in Britain have had to put up with these people for a long time with violent assaults upon meetings and rallies and gatherings and speeches.
There seems to be, both in Great Britain and in America, some kind of secret relationship between the establishment, which the Antifa claims to oppose, and the Antifa, because they rarely get prosecuted.
The charges are usually dropped.
The anti-mask laws in America are almost never enforced against them.
Every state in the Union and the District of Columbia have anti-mask laws that were adopted purportedly to confront political violence from the Ku Klux Klan.
Well, this Anti-Faw group has been going now for some years, and they've committed violence over and over again.
In fact, most of their activities are associated with violence.
And yet the police everywhere will not tell them to take the masks off.
They seem to be immune from that law.
When I was up in the District of Columbia, Washington, D.C., when the Antifa attacked the NPI meetings, I suggested the police then, why don't you make them take their masks off?
And the police were rather angry with me that we're enforcing the law and they haven't done anything.
We can only make them take the masks off if there's criminal activity.
I found out later that the Washington, D.C. city council and mayor had revised the anti-mask law to water it down, I suspect, deliberately to empower these gangs in the nation's capital to terrorize so-called white racists.
But anyway, the fact of the matter was, I told the policeman that there are crimes being committed right now.
You know, these people have invaded Baggiano's arrest.
They have thrown a Pupakov cocktail, dousing people with urine and CCs.
They have invaded these premises.
They have assaulted people.
These are crimes.
Make them take their masks off.
And the Washington, D.C. police refused to make them take the masks off.
And this goes on all over America.
There's somebody, as you know, police officers tend to enforce the law.
Somebody is ensuring that the law is not enforced, as we saw at Charlottesville, where these people again were allowed to wear masks as they assaulted people.
And there was no attempt by the police to enforce the anti-mask law.
Of course, it'd be 180 degrees opposite if any of our people ever showed up in a mass and committed a crime.
It would be nationwide news with Jews on the New York Times editorial board having pediption sets about Klan violence.
But they're just giving the pass.
And obviously, they've got big rich friends.
The fools and their foot soldiers really believe all this nonsense that they're fighting the establishment, but they're not.
They are the establishment's goons.
And this has deep, deep tap roots.
It goes back to the 1930s.
Well, you're right, Sam.
I read an interesting article about that recently, that everything that Antifa says they're fighting for is the same thing the Chamber of Commerce is fighting for.
It's the same thing the big lobbyists are fighting for.
It's the same thing MSNBC is fighting for.
So where's the rebellion?
Well, we see the usual selectivity.
They say they're against racism.
They don't want the wall built.
You'll never get the Antifa saying anything about the wall that's being built at the expense of the American taxpayers in Israel because the people that the highest ends who run the Antifa and fund the Antifa are mostly Jewish.
And they believe that they are a special race of people who are entitled to special rights.
And they believe that it's well within their rights to tell Americans that we must have open borders and it's immoral for us to want to preserve our identity.
But then to say not only do they have the right to have one in Israel, but they have a right to put their hand in the pockets of the wallets, purses of the American people and help themselves.
Sam, I comment on that.
Well, but it needs to be stated.
It's not a problem.
Well, I'm glad you brought it up on this show because this show is a safe space for those types of thoughts, the thoughts that should be shared that everyone else is timid to do it.
Otherwise, I have been saving a nugget for you, Sam, this entire program that I've wanted to get out throughout the show, but I've saved it especially for you.
I know we're coming up on a commercial break rather quickly, so I'm going to save it for the next segment, which is our last of the evening.
But before I do that, I've asked our other contributors tonight this question, so I'll ask it one more time of you.
Trump versus Obama with regards to his handling of Black Lives Matter and Antifa terrorism, better, worse, or about the same?
Maybe a little bit better, somewhat better.
He at least initially talked about condemning the violence on both sides.
That wasn't really fair because the violence in Charlottesville was almost entirely on the side of the Antifa.
But it wasn't what people like Lindsey Graham and Johnny Isaacson of Georgia wanted.
They wanted just a blanket condemnation of us and a whitewash for the Marxist terrorists.
Rather odd that Republicans feel that way.
That's right.
I don't.
Well, of course, I mean, it ultimately comes down to, I mean, the simplest answer is most usually the correct one.
And these people are just bought and paid for.
They're going to do what they're told to do.
And that's why they don't care that it's so obvious.
I mean, if we can see these things, anybody can, not that we're not smart.
I mean, we're certainly much smarter than most, I dare say.
But if we can make these observations, certainly anybody else can, too.
They know that Texas is going to go blue in 2024 if deportations and at the very least a wall isn't put in.
And at that point, the Republicans will never compete again for a presidential election.
It's not that they don't.
Do you really think somebody like Lindsey Graham or Johnny Isaacson who feel no connection or allegiance to their race, no connection or allegiance to their religion, no connection with their language or their literature, their culture, their race, no connection with the South?
These are people who just don't connect.
No, they don't connect.
No, they would have no loyalty.
You would think that some of these people may at least want to remain in office, but I guess they're set for life anyway, so what's the matter?
No, They don't care any more about the public authority than they do about the Confederate flag.
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Okay, folks, we've got one last segment with Sam Dixon, one last segment of the show tonight, so we want to get right to it.
Sam, we were trying to count the cities, trying to list the cities upon which carnage has manifested itself in the form of Black Lives Matter and Antifa just in the last year and a half, two years.
And, you know, there's a couple dozen, maybe more than that at least.
But what I saved for you was a pretty excellent piece written by Brad Griffin at OccidentalDescent.com with regards to what happened in St. Louis.
And of course, in St. Louis, you're looking at just a solid week of lawlessness and rampaging in which these people have terrorized the streets, menaced the house of the mayor.
Countless businesses are vandalizing.
And the question Brad asks is this.
Can you imagine the wall-to-wall negative coverage this would be getting from the fake news if the alt-right was doing this?
Suppose the alt-right formed a mob in the streets and attacked the house of the mayor of Charlottesville.
Suppose the alt-right went around Charlottesville for a week straight attacking police officers and vandalizing businesses in different parts of the city.
Everyone knows, of course, that we would never hear the end of the neo-Nazi rampage in Charlottesville.
And it didn't take anything even remotely resembling the organized criminal conspiracy which has unfolded in St. Louis for the last week for the Congress and the President of the United States to unanimously condemn white nationalists.
Sam, you take it from there.
Well, you know, the question answers itself.
You know, we don't have a system of justice in America.
We have a system of just us.
And that's why it's so important that white people in general, white Christians in general, and especially white southerners, disconnect from the system and cease to believe that it is our system and our country, our sector of state, our senator.
They're not.
It's their country, their secretary of state, their senators, their congressmen.
These people are unspeakably vile.
I don't think, you know, they're insulated by the media, so people don't really see just how vile they are.
Someday when history is written, we record here just amazement at how low the American Senate House sank.
Take, for instance, this resolution that they passed condemning white nationalism and so on in the wake of Charlottesville.
Well, there was a provision initially put in that they were going to also have some kind of a real sort of condemnation and violence on the other side.
But no, no, no, no.
Lindsey Graham, Johnny Isaacson, I'm picking up them because they're deep South Southern Republican white male senators.
And it shows their betrayal is so much greater than a Schumer of New York.
These are really, this is where the treason rubber hits the road, with Johnny Isaacson and Lindsey Graham and people like that.
They took that language out.
They only wanted, you know, you and I, one of the people at the rally in Charlottesville was partially blinded because one of the anti-five put acid instead of tear gas, and they didn't realize that he'd been hit with acid.
So he will suffer with diminished vision, significant vision loss.
The rest of his life, Johnny Isaacson and Lindsey Graham won't condemn that.
And by not condemning it, they stand with it.
They stand with Marxist terrorists against their own people, against the people in their party that elects them.
That's what they do.
Probably to some extent, people like that have no choice because they're not put into office until the system has something with which to blackmail them.
Like we now know with Strom Thurmond, the system always had the fact of his illegitimate black child.
So Strom Thurmond could never be legitimate.
But to carry it further, to really make you see just how bad the U.S. Senate and Congress are, it was a unanimous vote.
And about, I guess, what do you think?
30, 40% of these people are lawyers.
One of the most basic principles you learned the first year in legal ethics is that you never comment on the guilt of an accused person pending trial.
When Richard Dixon referred to Manson as a murderer, he was rightly condemned.
And yet every single one of those lawyers in the state and in the Senate and in the House of Representatives voted for a resolution that basically declared the defendant.
in Charlottesville in the Heather Heyer incident to be guilty.
And unlike Manson, who claimed credit, in quotes, for the murders, this is a situation in which there is considerable reason why a jury might actually acquit him.
But not one of those lawyers, not one of those lawyers cared a thing about legal ethics.
And this was very, very kosher and delicious to the taste of the New York Times editorial board and people like that.
It was just delicious.
Well, you know, Sam, I'm so glad you brought that up because yes, not only are a very prominent minority, if not a majority, of the members of Congress, the lawyers, You have even the Attorney General, Jeff Sessions, from deep red Alabama, who referred to James Fields, the driver of the car in Charlottesville, a terrorist within, I think,
24 hours of the incident before any evidence could have possibly.
I mean, scant evidence may have been compiled on the scene, but before any of the facts became enough.
Rather than the evidence convicting him beyond a reasonable doubt, from what we've seen, the preponderance of the evidence acquits this guy.
Yeah.
He had the opportunity to really commit mass terrorism by going up on the sidewalk the way the Muslims have done, the Muslims whom they will not condemn.
The way they did that.
He could have killed, he could have hit 150 to 200 of them.
And we all know he was fleeing from a situation in which he was being attacked by a baseball bat in a situation of mob violence caused by the governor of Virginia and the mayor of Charlottesville, who refused to enforce the law and allowed these fanatics free reign to commit crimes.
It's kind of a reverse Bill Connor.
I'm sure that Bill Connor was not as bad as the media makes him out of here.
Even the media's and history story about Bill Connor, it isn't 100th as bad as what McCullough and Signer did.
Yeah.
No, you're 100% right.
And I should remind people that one of the greatest shows we ever did, at least according to our audience, was the day of Charlottesville.
We were actually live on the air.
Of course, we're on every Saturday night live.
And Charlottesville took place on a Saturday night.
And we had six prominent featured guests who were there in Charlottesville and countless other callers.
And so we've covered this extensively.
But of course, Sam, you were there as well and certainly have a perspective on that that those of us who weren't couldn't have.
But I would ask you this, since you brought up the situation of, and we don't know James Fields, and he may be innocent, he may be guilty, he may be sane, he may be, we don't know.
But we do believe that everyone is innocent until proven guilty.
And we were talking about the rush to judgment here in the lynch mob justice by the supposed leaders of this country.
Do we know, though, Sam?
And I don't know if you would know or not.
Has he retained private counsel?
Do we know anything about what's going on there?
Because unlike Dylan Ruth, I haven't heard a heck of it.
Initially, they have put a lawyer who seems to be a pretty solid guy.
I researched him online.
I got him Charles.
I think his name is Charles Brember.
But for some reason, they conflicted him out.
They said he had a conflict and they yanked him on.
My understanding is now he has a legal aid lawyer who is not sympathetic to him, but you know, hey, you know, I represent lots of people that I've been sympathetic to, so maybe she's fine.
But it certainly raises a great danger that there's going to be some kind of effort to get him to claim that he's going to be able to do this deliberately at the instigation of people like me and Richard Smith so as to enable Morris D's to bring conspiracies through.
We saw that in the Brotherhood march in Atlanta where the guy that threw the one guy that threw a mud clod was rehearsing his testimony the morning of the trial in a separate courtroom with Morris D and claiming to somehow he threw the mud clod because of what people had said who'd organized the segregationist rally.
So it's a matter of concern, yes.
Well, I guess one thing's for sure, time will tell how that plays out.
But I think it's the lack of news surrounding, unless I've just been missing it and I read news every day for the purposes of hosting this program.
I've not seen nearly as much about evidence or transcripts or anything pertaining to James Fields as we did in the aftermath of Dylan Roof.
So anyway, I was interested in that.
And since you brought it up, I certainly wanted to see if you knew anything about it.
But you know, the narrative about Charlotte, I'm sure you've done it before, it's just absolutely contrary to truth.
They make it sound like the participants of the rally arrived in some kind of a wild west movie.
We're going to take this town.
And they all stormed into town and began running over people and beating people up.
You know, that's just this incident with Heather Heyer.
It took place three hours after the rally was disbanded, and most people had gotten in their cars and driven away.
And Brad Griffin has done some pretty excellent.
He's done, Brad Griffin, again, to drop his name, has done probably the best job of anyone in piecing together the whole chain of events there.
And he's conveyed that his findings meticulously on his blog.
But I believe Heather Heyer didn't even show up in Charlottesville until well after the state of emergency and the order to disperse was issued.
And what is this would declare a state of emergency where people can't hold a meeting.
It's so terrible that Governor McCowitz and Mayor Signor something is an emergency.
We got to break you up.
You can't have your first arrest.
We've got a state of emergency.
And then you have hours later, you have people with baseball bats wearing masks, wandering around, beating on attacking people while the cops say about this is a state of emergency.
Exactly.
Well, Sam, there's never enough time.
Hey, don't bother me with facts.
My mind's already made up.
But listen, there's never enough time with you, Sam.