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You're listening to the Liberty News Radio Network, and this is the Political Cesspool.
The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Well, folks, I hope you're enjoying this show as much as we are enjoying presenting it to you.
James Edwards, Keith Alexander, Eddie the Bombetter Miller, and our special guest, Simon Roche, here with us tonight, spending the entire show on South Africa, the topic of South Africa, what's happening there to our brothers, sisters, and cousins in that nation, why he is here in the United States on tour on a mission to raise awareness and money, and, of course, what we can do to help.
That is the topic for the entire show tonight.
It's a very special presentation of the political cesspool.
And coming up in the third hour, it's going to get even more special.
When I cede the throne, as it were, to Jim Lancia, our criminal justice correspondent.
Jim has taken a keen interest in South Africa, has done a heck of a lot of research on the topic, and it's become a passion of his.
And so Jim and I were collaborating and brainstorming.
And Jim was with us last week, of course, in the last couple of segments of the program on July the 29th.
And he'll be with us tonight, anchoring the show in the third hour with a one-on-one, an intimate one-on-one with Simon.
And you don't want to miss that.
I was talking with Jim, I believe, earlier today.
If it were not yesterday, maybe it was yesterday.
And he is ready for this evening's broadcast.
Well, Simon's the star of the show tonight.
That's for sure.
Getting a lot of feedback, even an increase from normal on email, even text message.
A lot of people tuned in tonight very much enjoying what they're hearing.
And if that wasn't enough, we have, in addition to our featured guest and the rest of my team, a very special benefactor of the program tonight, who we're having a lot of fun with.
He and his wife are in town escorting Simon to the program tonight here in the studio.
And then, of course, tomorrow, where we will have a private reception for some VIP people here in town for Simon.
But we'll introduce him simply as General Lee this evening.
And he has an interesting perspective.
We were talking about this during the break.
And in the last segment, Simon said, Simon says, Simon said that the Afrikaners have been in South Africa since the 1600s.
How many of you knew that?
Even predating the coloreds there, as they prefer to be called.
And we were talking about that during the last break.
Well, General Lee has a lot more information about that.
So break it down for us.
You might have to stand up because this mic's not going to reach all the way over there.
We'll let you explain a little bit more and ask the first question for this hour of Simon.
Well, I don't have a whole lot to explain.
I just want to ask Simon, can you give us a brief history of South Africa and what the situation was like when the first settlers arrived, who they were, what they found, what they were trying to accomplish, and then what happened to them.
And subsequently going on up to the current situation.
If you can do that in under five minutes, we'll be most appreciative.
Thank you, General.
Yes, that's a very good question.
The Dutch established a sort of a halfway house at the Cape of Good Hope in 1652, the 6th of April 1652, at a time when the Dutch people were renowned across Europe for their Calvinistic faith.
It was not long after that that the Huguenots of France came down to Cape Town and shortly after that the German Lutheran soldiers joined them in the Cape of Good Hope.
And those three population groups melded together to form the modern-day Boers.
And one interesting note about that is that last year there was a scandal in South Africa when some young Boer women returned from India having been participating in genetic research.
They'd been induced to go to India, promises of lots of money.
They were told that it's a pain-free exercise that they would be involved in and that they would be put up in the best accommodations and so on.
And they came back to South Africa crying to their moms.
Somebody wants to say something.
And why were they chosen for this study?
Well, I'll tell you in a second.
When they came back, they came crying to their mommies, saying, we went to India and we went through incredible pain and we didn't get paid the money we were supposed to be paid and we lived in hovels.
So an investigative television program sent a team across to India and to cut a long story short, they interviewed the two genetic scientists, these Indian guys, these professors, who were leading the research and these two guys both gave the same answer to the simple question, why were you using these Boer women and not people from Papua New Guinea or from Burma or America or Peru or whatever?
And these two men separately gave the same answer because we have been doing this genetic research for over three decades and we have discovered that one population group in the world breeds the most true to type.
That the genes of the Boer people are so strong that if we use them for our genetic research, we get more results.
So what they'd done is that they'd milked the eggs of all of these young girls, their lifetime supply of eggs.
None of these young women can procreate again because these guys were milking them of their eggs so that they could use the eggs for genetic research and as I say using only Afrikaner Boer women for this exercise because this population group is so hardy,
such a uniquely homogeneous in genetic terms, so homogenous, so little variation that they were able to do their research more reliably.
And this is a bad thing for them, I guess, because the Boers are very family-oriented.
Isn't that true?
Yes.
You know, we, like all white European cultures in the world, be it in New Zealand, Australia, Canada, the USA, Western Europe, have been severely undermined over the past 40 years.
Our values have been turned inside out.
Our children have been taught at school to believe things that would have been anathema to our grandparents, and so on and so forth.
The listeners of this show understand this thing very, very well.
However, we have, to some degree, managed to cling to authentic values.
And in fact, there's a word for it.
Without going into the story of the prophet again, he gave the word behodenders.
That is to say, those people who cling to ancient values, who cling to genuine Christianity, who cling to the norms of their fathers, the tradition and the culture and so on, and who don't buy into fashionable evangelical religions and don't become Buddhists and what have you.
We are fortunate to have retained a hard core of authentic people in South Africa, authentic white, Western, European, Christian people that has been more or less lost in most other places in the world that our people settled.
Okay, so I say, I guess it would be safe to say that the Boers are deeply religious and were seeking a place where they could practice their religion and live their lives without interference.
What subsequently happened to them and when did they first, who did they first encounter when they moved into the territory?
When did the present populations move in?
Talk about the relationship between the British Empire and South Africa and go in as much detail as you want to.
Well, I actually have to get into that at the top of the next segment because we are coming to a break.
It is a free-for-all tonight on the Political Cessboat.
We have so much talent in the room.
It's just overflowing.
Simon, our guest, yours truly, of course, Keith and Eddie.
And General Lee, the man of the segment.
That last one.
How about a big round of applause, Keith?
Let's hear it.
Keith and Eddie, we'll have Keith and Eddie.
All right, we're having a good time.
We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen.
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Well, folks, I don't know if you know it or not, and I hope you do because we say it just about every show, if not every letter we send out to you.
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And as we get back to the interview this evening, Keith, Eddie are about to ask some more questions of Simon, and we're going to get to later this hour before Jim Lancia takes over in the third, what our people can do to support this organization.
But I thought that our generous benefactor and friend asked an important question before the last break.
Simon didn't have time to answer.
So we'll ask him to restate the question and then to Simon and then Eddie and Keith after that.
Thank you, James.
To recap, Simon, can you give us a brief history of what happened, what the Boers found when they came into South Africa and what happened to them subsequently, the conflicts that happened to them along the way, including up to the wars with Great Britain and then the perseverance of the people up to this very day into your organization?
Well, yes, it's a very special history.
As I said earlier, on the first permanent white settlement in South Africa, in what is now called South Africa, began on the 6th of April 1652.
And when those people arrived there, they didn't find black people.
They found scattered family groups of Aboriginal people.
Very important that you listen to this, folks.
Scattered groups of Aboriginal people who many of the listeners might know as Bushmen.
If anybody's watched the movie The Gods Must Be Crazy, we're talking about those people.
Very short, small, petite, frail people, hunter-gatherers.
And they, in fact, had been persecuted.
They'd been practically genocided by the black people who were moving down from Central Africa towards modern-day South Africa.
And they found these primitive Aboriginal people in the region that is now occupied by the famous Zulu tribe of South Africa.
And in fact, to this day, if anybody is interested in their famous rock art, the rock art of these Bushmen who are nowadays referred to as San or Khoi San people, that covers a slightly broader spectrum,
They will see that rock art not in the Cape region where those people are mostly to be found now, but they will see the legacy of their primitive culture where the Zulu people live up near the Drakensberg Mountains.
So these tribes had come down, these black tribes, they found these Aboriginal people who'd lived there for thousands of years, and they had basically wiped them out.
And the small remnant found its way to the more remote regions of the Cape.
Now, very interestingly, the white people didn't meet any black people.
And it was only 125 years later that the commander of the fort in Cape Town, Captain Robert J. Gordon, later Colonel Robert J. Gordon, found the first black people in South Africa after 125 years of being there.
And they were a thousand miles away in a region very far away.
They were more or less trapped on the east bank of the Great Fish River at modern-day Somerset East.
They hadn't yet been able to cross over the Great River gorges in that region, not having the means to do so.
And people may be interested to know that the diaries of this man recording all of this beyond any dispute, beyond the opinions of revisionist anthropologists and sociologists and so on, are held by the Oppenheimer mining family at the Brenthurst Library in Johannesburg, very close to the famous Johannesburg General Hospital.
And that puts this whole issue beyond dispute.
It doesn't matter what you learned at school, don't worry.
They told all of us the same lies.
But to those who know, this is a matter of fact beyond any conversation.
And you'll not find any serious student of this subject engaging in a debate over it because those who know know that it has just been really a bullshit story shoved down the throats of the consuming the Western peoples.
And very briefly, before I hand over to Keith, to answer your question, the British annexed this endeavor by the Boer people to found this new colony in 1795, 1803, 1806 again.
And then in 1879, following the discovery of diamonds when the Boers had moved into the hinterland of South Africa, they thought, well, we want to get our hands on this.
And so the famous mining interests in London and in England stood to gain very much.
But when Great Britain endeavored to annex the new republics that the Boers had found, they were soundly beaten by the Boers.
The overwhelming odds had their butts kicked right out of there.
Before we go to Keith, before we go to Keith, we need to get to Keith.
We're still on a topic of historical context.
Eddie, you had something you've been wanting to work in the entire show.
You know, my brother Simon said earlier before we came here, we were having a discussion out in the yard, and he said he didn't want to get too spiritual.
You can't get too spiritual for me.
Simon, please explain the miracle of Blood River.
Tell all about Blood River and the wonderful Zulus we hear about here in the country, how wonderful they really were.
Well, what occurred was that a group of Boers entered what is now known as the Natal province or the KwaZulu-Natal province of South Africa, and they went to negotiate with the king of the Zulus for a tract of land, and he said to them, yes, the price is right.
I'm happy.
I will give you this massive tract of land.
All you have to do is go and recover my cattle from that thieving king down the road.
If you bring my cattle back to me, it'll be all good.
So the Boers went off and they recovered the cattle and they brought them back to the king.
And the king said, Well, look, in our culture, we don't conclude such an important agreement without some festivity.
So leave your guns outside because that's not very courteous.
And come inside into the royal compound and we'll have a little dance and a shindig and what have you, and then you can go on your way.
And they went inside, and the Zulu king famously declared, Bulala Matagati, which means kill the wizards.
And the Boers were grabbed and bound, and they were taken to a hill of execution.
And they had stakes rammed up their rector out the top of their spines, just where it meets the skull.
And this was all well recorded by a missionary family that was present and witnessed everything.
And to this day, I can tell you, I did a famous birthday party of a famous billionaire, not a South African, an internationally famous billionaire in South Africa.
And he had a Zulu woman there recounting this tale.
And she said, you know, you can't blame us because these men rode horses.
Not only did they ride horses, they rode at night.
So who can blame us for believing that they must be wizards?
You know, who tames a great beast and then rides him in the darkness?
So they were tantamount to wizards and witches.
Anyway, they had these stakes rammed up the erector.
They were murdered in this gruesome fashion.
And they made the men watch while their sons were murdered first.
I mean, as a father, something like that will get to you when we come back after this break.
This incredible night of radio continues with Simon Roche.
And we're only halfway through tonight.
Keith, Alexander, and Simon will take the next segment.
Keith, you're on deck, brother.
We'll be right back.
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This is one of those shows, ladies and gentlemen, where three hours is just not going to be enough.
Such a broad and expansive topic, talking about the history, the current state of affairs in South Africa, and what needs to happen next and how we can be a part of that positive solution.
It's just too much to cover in three hours.
But we're doing the best we can with the time we've got.
I know our studio here is not set up to have five different people mic'd up at the same time.
So I know there is some fluctuation in audio level as we pass the mic around.
You're just going to have to bear with us tonight a little more than usual because we have different people with different tones of voices that hold the mic at different levels.
But we are trying to get this out and we want to work everybody in because everybody's passionate about this topic.
And we're all in here tonight to show support and solidarity for Simon and his organization.
That being said, we were talking a little bit about the history before we toss it over to you and Keith Simon, a little bit about the history and what could be coming here in America if current trends persist, God forbid.
But there were certainly some things we left off as we discussed during the commercial break.
And I wish the people could hear the conversation being had in the commercial break.
It puts what's happening on the air.
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But let's Finish the story we were telling before the break and how it is applicable to our situation here in America, and then we'll toss it over to Keith.
Well, very briefly, after those Boer men were murdered, the Zulus found their women and children who were encamped in two places beneath mountains.
They came across the women and children, fell upon them, and then famously gutted all the women to see if there were fetuses in their wombs, and then removed the fetuses from their wombs and smashed the fetuses, killed them, or well, double-killed them, I suppose, against the wagon wheels, smashed all the heads of the children, and cut open their bellies and squeezed the gall from their gallbladders.
And in doing so, they famously said, which means I have eaten.
I have eaten another human being's flesh.
Savage.
So then to answer Eddie Miller's question, basically, a party was sent to seek retribution for this.
A famous battle happened in which 464 Boer men faced 36,000 Zulus.
Now, all the liberal historians, this, that, they'll tell you that it was 15,000 Zulus, 21,000, 23,000.
It cannot be the case because it is distinctly recorded by the British, that is to say, our historical enemies, by the British, that the Zulu king marched with 40 battalions of 900 men each.
So it was 36,000 verses 464.
And in a battle which has no likes in history, the 36,000 were defeated and at least 12,000 dead Zulus were dragged off the battlefield.
But more crucially than that, the Boers had prayed day and night a very specific covenant prayer, day and night.
And they said, Lord, if you give us this day, we will remember it as a Sabbath day amongst our people forever.
And we will relay this to our children and to our children's children.
The battle was fought, and not one single Boer was killed.
What happened?
Now, we're not talking about something that people in contemporary history did not see.
We didn't see the parting of the seas, but our people saw that.
And that happened, and that is a miracle on a miracle that matches anything of biblical proportions.
All right.
Donna out there from Campaign for Liberty, are you still worried about offending your black friends after hearing all this?
All right.
Thank you.
One man received a cut on his forearm, but very famously, your Christian audience may appreciate this.
The Zulus said afterwards, well, it wasn't really a fair fight because there were four giant men posted around the Boer camp.
And these four men smashed us even worse than the Boers did.
More of our fatalities came from these giant creatures.
So, of course, not by our own mouths, not by our own beliefs, but by the Zulus, we understand that the Lord God of creation sent the angel to be with us.
It's a great, great blessing.
It's a story of true blessing in our history.
Praise God.
That happened.
436 against 36,000.
436 against 464,000, Keith.
That's very inspiring, Simon.
Let me get back to current events now.
We talked about the breakdown in the white population.
Tell us the breakdown in the black population.
Is it tribal?
Is it immigrant versus tribes?
Also, are there political parties among the blacks?
What are their positions regarding the white population of South Africa?
Keith, that's a very good question because historically there has been a tribal division amongst the majority of the tribes, particularly between the two largest tribes, that is to say, the Zulu people and the Amakasa people.
However, many of those people have been reconciled through the African National Congress.
The African National Congress famously didn't have great support from amongst the Zulu tribe, which forms about one-fifth of our country's population, just a little bit more than one-fifth.
But once the Zulu tribe got its own president in the ANC for the first time ever, in the form of our current president, Jacob Zuma, then that's the man who famously admitted to raping his friend's daughter.
Then, of course, the Zulus flocked to the ANC.
Now, what has happened is that the ANC has compromised as it has taken power and taken greater and greater wealth on its famous Freedom Charter.
Some of you may be aware of the Freedom Charter of the African National Congress, this kind of quasi-Marxist document.
And so what has sprung up all of a sudden recently is a very, very radical party, an overtly Marxist party, to try and recapture or to steal political territory from the ANC by going down to the Marxist roots, the historical roots of the African National Congress.
What part, if any, does communism or Marxism play in the politics of South Africa?
Keith, again, that's a very incisive question and it cuts to the chase of this matter.
The simple reality that is not covered by the international media and American politicians, European politicians, it doesn't matter.
The thing that is overlooked is that the African National Congress is not itself a standalone entity.
The African National Congress is the political leg of what is known as the Tripartite Alliance.
Now, this was never mentioned by the Clintons, by anybody, you know, when they were promoting the African National Congress.
But the African National Congress is part of a tripartite alliance, which is the South African Communist Party, the Congress of Trade Unions, and the African National Congress.
It's a three-way ruling entity.
And I hope that that sort of answers your question, Keith.
Well, do the whites have a seat at this table or not?
There are many whites, well, percentage-wise, a small amount, but too many for any sensible person's liking, who have supported the African National Congress.
And in our parliament, we have a couple of white-dominated parties.
But more or less, you know, our system, our governing system in South Africa is dominated by the African National Congress, by these majority black parties.
Well, is it true that the Communist Party in South Africa is the second oldest communist party in the world?
And if that's true, give us a thumbnail sketch of its background.
Oh, this is a very sensitive topic indeed.
Yes, you're correct, Keith.
You've done your homework.
And I know that there are others in the room who know South African history very well, well enough to undermine the nonsense narrative of many politicians in the world who completely overlook these things.
Look, yes, you know, we had a time when there were many immigrants from Lithuania and other countries who came to sort of save black people, as it were.
You know, these do-gooders who are quite positive in their minds that they know everything.
You know, the moment they step off the boat, they've got all the answers.
You know, it doesn't matter if you've lived in the USA for a hundred years, Keith.
These guys in New York or in Johannesburg or in Vancouver or in London know better than you ever could.
And so, yes, these immigrants contributed to the formation of the party and later contributed to the drafting of the African National Congress documents.
When we come back, folks, more to come and more to come with yours truly, Keith and Eddie.
And of course, Simon.
And then in the third hour, let's hang out.
Jim Lantia, stay tuned.
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I knew tonight's show would be good because I knew the caliber of the guests coming in and I knew that the content would be solid.
I knew tonight's show would be good, but I will be entirely honest with you when I say that tonight's show has exceeded any expectation, any realistic expectation that I could have had.
This show tonight is a perfect example of why I founded the Political Cesspool Radio Program in October of 2004.
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No church would do it, as Simon has already attested to.
But by God, we will do it.
And we are doing it tonight with a fantastic guest.
And I would encourage all of you to stay tuned for the entirety of tonight's show, the full three hours.
Most of you do that.
Most of you tune in and you listen to every minute.
But we do have different personalities on the show.
Keith is the scholarly intellectual.
Eddie is the passionate, bombastic guy.
Some people tune in to hear one or the other.
Of course, the women tune in to hear me.
But tonight, tonight, we would have to say you all stay tuned for the full show because Simon deserves it.
His mission deserves it.
His cause deserves it.
And the people of South Africa deserve it.
And we want to get to how we can help them.
But actually, we said we weren't going to take calls tonight, but we have a pastor, Pastor Dan, on the line who has a question or a comment from Simon.
Pastor, thanks for calling in.
And let's make it quick.
Oh, okay.
Well, when I heard that James Lance here was hosting an hour of it, I know James.
I've interviewed him several times.
I think he's a stellar individual as the folks here at the Political Cesspool with him for years and years, too.
You guys are all doing fantastic work.
But I was listening to Simon talk about Blood River and the battle that happened there.
I was not aware that nobody of the Boers had been injured or killed during the battle.
So it reminds me of Psalm 91 and the different battles of the people of the Bible that fought when they did not lose a single man.
The 91st Battalion, World War I, prayed to Psalm 91 every day, and they suffered zero casualties in some of the worst battles of World War I.
And so now we can add the Boers to that list of Yahweh's people that when they pray and call upon him to watch over them, that when they're even outnumbered as greatly as the Boers were, we win victories when the rest of the world would say that there's no way possible.
and yet we end up winning.
Thank you for the call, Pastor.
Simon?
Well, thank you very much, Pastor.
Thank you.
It's nice to hear from Christians encouraging us.
As I say, we contacted 938 Christian organizations and churches before we came here, and we received only three replies.
They were negative replies, but...
You must not have contacted pastors' churches then.
Yeah, yeah.
And hitherto, the only church that has been willing to hear our story, which is a very simple story.
It is a story of a civil defense organization, the largest non-state civil defense organization in the world, constituted under international law to protect, as those international laws make specific provision, specific provision, to protect an identifiable ethnic group of non-combatants in the event of an armed conflict that threatens them.
We could be pygmies, we could be people from Peru, we could be people from, we could be Red Indians, we could be, it doesn't matter.
We are just a group of people.
That is all that we are, who are being promised a civil war.
Our black leaders in South Africa are now talking openly about the slaughter of all whites, as happened on the 7th of November in the town of Newcastle in the province of KwaZulu-Natel last year.
On Monday, the 10th of April this year, a very important leader in South Africa said that conservative whites will be wiped out in five years' time.
So we as an organization, Satlanders, our website is satelanders.org, S-U-I-D landers, satelanders.org.
As an organization, all we're doing is trying to look after women and children in the event of a terrible war.
And I want to toss it back to Keith, but first, Simon, please answer.
For those of you listening, and you just gave the website, and I want to be sure Keith has the remainder of this segment.
But what can our people do listening tonight, and those who will listen after the fact in the broadcast archives, how could they be of most service to the South Afrikaners, and how would they go about making that service available to them?
Well, I'd like to begin by saying thank you to those people who give offers of sending us stuff in the mail, but we always decline it because the South African Postal Service is such now that it will be stolen.
That's just a matter of fact.
So we can't accept those offers.
I'd like to say thank you to those people who've offered to come to South Africa and give us all sorts of advice.
But please do be cognizant of the fact that we have had many years' experience of warfare and we have what is generally regarded as the most superior, if I may use that word, plan of its type in the world.
Where we are lacking is in finances.
Any monies donated to us are looked after like gold.
They are very, very highly valued.
This morning, while I was having lunch with Richard and his wife, Janice, I received a call from South Africa in which our senior manager said to me, Simon, we have a unique opportunity to get the entire contents of a hospital that has become disbanded for $10,000, the entire contents of the hospital.
It's about $130,000, loosely speaking, $10,000.
What we are looking for is funds and only funds.
People would like to know more.
If they're not sure, they can send me an email.
I'll happily answer any questions.
I understand that people are cautious.
How come people don't have money if it can't be through the mail online?
At Suidla n DERS dot org, in the bottom right hand corner there's a PayPal link and we'll be grateful for any donation.
You've got it there, ladies and gentlemen, and if you're unfamiliar with how to spell that, we have been tweeting tonight, live tweeting during the broadcast, and we have the Twitter handle for his organization there at James Edwards TPC.
Keith, about three minutes remaining, final parting shot to you, Mark.
Let me get down to the nitty-gritty.
What is the situation in South Africa now for South African whites, and for boars in particular?
And in particular, I've heard that they have passed laws that prevent whites from even defending themselves with a weapon against black aggressors.
Is that fable?
Is that fact?
What's going on over there right now?
The scenario is that if somebody enters your house with a weapon and you don't see the weapon, let's say he's got a gun, a hand grenade, a bazooka.
It doesn't matter.
You have a responsibility to ascertain what it is that he's threatening you with before you shoot him dead.
Now here in the in the southern United States, if they walk in the house, armed or unarmed, you can blow them out the front door.
Yeah well, our government says that it's not fair for you to shoot somebody because he might just be carrying a spoon you know to stab you with, as it were.
So you've got to be nice to him first.
I mean, it's bizarre, it's thoroughly crazy, but that's the way it is.
What is the danger?
You know, i've heard there's a liberal group called Genocide Watch who has confirmed that there is a level five genocide occurring right now, as I speak, against white South Africaners by blacks in South Africa.
Is that correct?
Do you feel that?
What is the uh?
What's the death toll on a monthly or weekly or yearly basis of whites in South Africa killed by blacks?
And before Simon answers, I should uh I, I should, I should make mention that this is why your support is so needed, Simon, the uh death rate of South African farmers.
The murder rate of South African farmers is higher now than at any time the death rate of American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Did you hear that?
Ladies and gentlemen, that's a fact that anybody can verify.
When I was first told it about three years ago.
I thought that just can't be true.
I went and checked the figures myself.
These incredible figures are real, actual facts.
Now i've had people ask me before, why don't the white farmers in south Africa defend themselves?
And I would say I say as a you know, a practical matter.
They know that they're going to be arrested by black police, taken before a black judge, tried before a black jury and they'll just be having a, a slower death.
Is there justice for white people that are being attacked by blacks in South Africa today?
15 second answer to you, Simon, and then we'll set the stage for the third hour.
It's very difficult to get justice for white people in South Africa today for the simple reason that anything that is anti-black is presumed to be motivated by racism rather than a real event.
And it's always said over and over and over again, you know, it's because whites hate blacks.
That's why this guy did this and that white woman did that.
Well, listen, folks, it may sound like we're winding down, but no, we're not.
Not at all.
In fact, there is still a third and final hour forthcoming tonight in the political festival.
And Simon will be with us for that, just as he has been with us for the first two.
The only difference is Jim Lancia will be hosting the show.
He's an expert on South Africa.
That's right.
Jim knows more about South Africa than the three principals here.
And that's why we're having him on in the third hour.
So stay tuned for a very special treat with Jim Lancia, host TPC with Simon for the third and final tonight.
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