Aug. 5, 2017 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Welcome to tonight's show, everybody.
This is the Political Cesspool.
I'm your host, James Edwards.
It is Saturday evening, August the 5th.
Big show last week with Jason Kessler in an exclusive interview with our broadcast talking about the Unite the Right rally that's coming up next week.
Also last week, we, of course, had Keith Alexander on assignment in the field at the American Renaissance Conference.
Keith's back down in Memphis tonight in the studio with me.
And of course, the big show where we are dispatching Eddie, the bombardier for the aforementioned Unite the Right rally.
But tonight, first tonight, tonight's show, fans of TPC are going to be in for a special treat when Simon of Let's Say the Organization, Keith, Saint Landers.
And let's say his last name, Ross.
Okay.
Yes, indeed.
He's here, ladies and gentlemen.
He has been all over the place, and he's back with us tonight, joining the entire crew, I guess you could say, or at least the principals of the crew.
Yours truly, Keith and Eddie, in studio tonight for a roundtable discussion.
And it's going to be going on throughout the entire broadcast tonight.
All of us together.
That's rare.
So it's not your typical format tonight where Keith and Eddie take the first shift and then Eddie comes in.
We may have Scoop.
We may have a guest.
No, not tonight.
It's Simon for the full three hours.
And let's give you a little more information about his organization.
It is an emergency plan initiative officially founded in 2006 to prepare Protestant Christian South Africa, its minority of whites for the coming violent revolution.
This organization is non-aggressive and legal in its preparation, constituted lawfully under the Geneva Convention, with particular reference to protocols 1 and 2 of the protocols additional for the protection, or rather the protection of non-combatant civilian Afrikaners, women, children, and the elderly, and the non-abled body in the event of a civil war.
In 2006, the signs were becoming clearer that anarchy in South Africa was a real possibility.
While most of the people ignored these warning signs, this organization started to prepare.
And today, many ardent deniers have to admit that anarchy in South Africa is not only possible, but likely.
Through years of research, this organization was able to build an emergency plan that will allow its participants to cope and assist during a nationwide emergency situation like a civil war.
Hundreds of training manuals concerning refugee management, logistics, convoys, etc., have been written and are now ready to be used.
A nationwide off-grid communications network has been designed to function when the conventional communications grid goes down.
A nationwide online evacuation assistance website provides extraction coordinates to the members of this wonderful group.
Through nationwide monitoring network, it's aware of and can report incidents of instability around the country.
The organization which Simon is here as a diplomat to represent is primarily a Bible-believing Christian conservative group.
It calls on its members to personally prepare for an emergency situation like major civil unrest.
With the help of thousands of its members, it has prepared and identified extraction routes and safe areas where trained and capable members will become self-reliant and proficient to provide assistance and support to the inevitable flow of refugees during crisis.
Through experience, especially in Africa, it has learned that it cannot depend on international bodies to assist during a conflict.
It intends to, with God's provision, help themselves.
They also believe in the words of a century-old prophet who clearly warned of the boar, clearly warned the boar of impending civil conflict.
It invites the international community to contact it so that it may work together in preparing to resist a global persecution.
So that is the mission of this organization.
Simon is here.
He is a representative who has been touring the United States all year on a mission to raise awareness about the plight of our brothers and sisters in South Africa.
You don't want to miss Simon's Encore appearance on the political cesspool tonight, during which he will go in depth on the issue with our entire staff, as well as TPC correspondent Jim Lancia.
It's all coming your way this evening, ladies and gentlemen.
So stay tuned.
You're definitely in for a treat.
And the final announcement tonight, before we turn it over to our esteemed guest and our colleagues, is if you are on the Political Cesspool's snail mail list, do me a favor, folks, and check your mailbox.
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No, this is not our quarterly fundraising initiative.
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So gird your loins.
You know, we run on a schedule.
And you already know what the incentive for that fundraising initiative is going to be.
It's Andrew Fraser's book, Dissident Dispatches, in which he reconciles alt-right philosophy with Christian theology.
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That being said, before we bring Simon on with only seconds left before our first commercial break of the night, we'll go ahead and let Keith say hello.
Keith, you have actually been, as Simon has been touring the United States all year, you have spent all afternoon touring Memphis with Simon.
How'd that go?
Went great, as usual.
We just saw the high points downtown, but of course we've got a lot more to see in Memphis.
It's a shame he's going to be leaving Memphis tomorrow because I'd like to have him here about a week and show him all the ins and outs of our city of good abode, as they say.
Right?
Well, I don't know how it's all right.
It's okay.
It's okay.
Eddie, you've had a chance to talk with Simon a little bit here.
He got to the studio about 30 minutes early.
The music's playing.
I know you don't have your headset on, but he's a great guy.
Is he not?
Is the audience in store for a treat tonight?
Well, he's my hero.
All right.
Well, that's saying a lot coming from the Bombardier.
Two tours in Nam fighting for – what were you fighting for in that one, Eddie?
The International Bankers.
Okay.
We'll be back with Simon right after this.
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You know what we did last week, what we're doing next week, and what's happening tonight.
Without further ado, let's get to the main event.
Simon Roche is with us.
Simon, you have been all over the map this year here in the United States, from coast to coast, north, south, east, and west.
Tell us about some of the highlights of your mission and who you've met, who you've talked to, and why you're here to raise awareness.
Well, thanks for having me on Political Cesspool.
Thank you for being willing to bring me into your studio.
It's a privilege.
We've done just over 23,000 miles of driving, excluding flights, all across the USA.
We've been to many states and met many people.
The best answer I can give to the first part of your question is the answer that we've given throughout this tour of five months now.
And that is that the best part of this tour has been meeting the young people, the young right-wing people.
I don't know what is the correct term.
We would just say conservative in South Africa.
But these young, fresh-faced, bright-eyed, well-spoken, well-deported, good-mannered, well-brought up people who are, yeah, alt-right people, young people who are so desperately patriotic about their country.
It has been an eye-opener for us.
My touring companion, who has since returned to South Africa, Andrei Kutsia, and I often remarked to one another that sometimes it was embarrassing for us because we're seeing such a level of quality that we couldn't help making the comparison with our own folks back home.
We have superb people.
But here in the USA, we've just seen a class of young folks that's really, really remarkable, absolutely exceptional.
Has the reception you've received met fallen below or exceeded your expectations?
Well, we came here with the sole purpose of raising funds.
We desperately have to raise about 10 million US dollars to be able to cater for refugees.
We usually work on the number of 800,000 in the anticipated civil war in South Africa, the civil war that the black leaders are promising us now.
And we haven't even made a dent in that amount.
We haven't raised a fraction of a fraction of that amount of money.
However, we were meant to come just for three weeks.
And our founder, the head of our organization, a man by the name of Gustav Müller, contacted us shortly before we were due to return home and said, please don't come.
I know that you have children and families and obligations, but please, if you can, stay in the USA because you've raised a level of awareness of what is happening in South Africa that is completely unprecedented.
We were on your show, we were on Ken Giverdin's show, Red Eye Stéphane Molyneux, and the hundreds of thousands of views that people outside of South Africa have gotten or have, you know, the listening and the viewing and the what have you is something that's completely unprecedented.
And we've managed to circumvent the mainstream media who have kept quiet about what's happening in South Africa.
So in that sense, completely exceeded our expectations by a long way.
An absolute blessing.
Yes, because as you mentioned, I did a little bit of research in anticipation and in preparation of your appearance with us tonight.
And I was looking at just the incredible variety of media outlets that you've spoken with over the course of your tour.
So it's been certainly a two-front attack in that regard.
You are having in-person meetings across the country at different homes, different diners, different venues.
Of course, you spoke at American Renaissance last week, so different conferences.
And in addition to that, you are on the airwaves as well.
And I don't think there's anyone that you've talked to in the alt media, or rather anyone in the alt media that you've not yet talked to that I can think of.
So you've been busy.
And as you mentioned, I think when you were on with us back in the springtime, Winston Smith was anchoring that show as I was out of town that particular week.
I remember it fondly.
We switched over our broadcast archives that week.
But I remember you saying then that you may be returning home in the very near future.
And here we are now in August, and you're with us this time not over the phone, but in the flesh.
So congratulations on you on being able to extend the trip.
So obviously to extend the trip to that length of time would mean that you are raising awareness and getting good results.
And that's certainly something we want to help do tonight.
Well, the congratulations really sincerely, without modesty, false or otherwise, has to go to the alt media because when we arrived here, we contacted 938 Christian organizations.
And they didn't, we got three replies.
Pathetic.
So we phoned about 12 churches.
And in most cases, they would take a message for the pastor, not get back to us, or we'd get through to the pastor.
And on two occasions, I had the phone put down in my ear.
They are not interested in hearing about white babies being raped, white women being raped, about white farmers being killed on the farms.
They don't want to know about it.
But this thing was foretold 100 years ago.
You know, we hold very dear a series of prophecies that included Barack Obama.
We might talk about that later on.
Donald Trump, all sorts of things, immigration into Europe.
And that man, who's just had this remarkable accuracy in the predictions that he made, spoke about this.
He said that at this time, and there's certain characteristics that he identified about this time, and we're certainly in that time now.
He said in that time, the churches will all be wrong.
He said the churches throughout the world will be wrong and messed up.
So we're not surprised.
In any case, you guys have come to our rescue.
It's the alt-right and the alt media that has saved our bacon.
And we are very, very, very proud to call you our friends.
Well, the pride is all taken from us.
I mean, the pride is in knowing you and being able to help you is a privilege to what extent that we have.
And I did not know that, actually, Simon.
That is not something we have discussed off the air.
I did not know that your organization, a Christian organization, I might add, had actually put forth a concerted effort to get in touch and receive support from American churches and from American Christian broadcast entities only to have a 0% success rate.
I think you said three out of nearly a thousand.
The only church to receive you was Brett McAtee in Michigan.
So we want to thank that pastor for doing the Lord's work.
But other than that, it's not a surprise.
This is a recurring theme.
But that is pathetic because it's not that these churches are not offering their philanthropy and their charity exclusively to non-believers, I guess you could say, Keith.
Listen Russell Moore of the Southern Baptist Convention has said that black Africans are the real Christians today.
So consequently, I would challenge him.
If that's the case, the Great Commission would require you to direct your missionary zeal towards whites in Africa and particularly in Europe.
I don't want to interrupt you, Keith, but what Simon's just shared, I want to be completely frank and raw with the audience.
That makes me absolutely incensed.
Well, let me ask you this, Simon.
Who is this prophet that you mentioned?
For the edification of our audience, who are we talking about here?
Keith, the guy's name was Nikolaus von Reinsberg, like Nicholas.
Nikolaus von Reinsberg, he lived from 1864 to 1926.
He was quite a strange character, very pious.
He was a farmer, but he famously didn't tend his farm very well.
He was forever praying, and he got something like eight days of schooling, couldn't read.
His mom taught him to read through the Bible, and that's the only book he ever read in his entire life.
He was met with a lot of skepticism initially, but during the Great Anglo-Boer War of 1899 to 1902, he made many fantastic, improbable, unlikely predictions, and they came true.
And from that, he garnered huge, almost sort of cult status.
We'll pause right there.
Simon is with us, not for the remainder of the hour, but for the remainder of the show tonight.
He is our guest live in studio.
We're just getting started to learn more about the situation in South Africa and how we can help.
Stay tuned.
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Well, in case you don't know, it's James Edwards, Eddie the Bombardier Miller, Keith Alexander, and Simon Roche of Saint Landers here with us tonight.
Raising awareness about South Africa.
The main point we want to convey to you, the main thing we want you to take away from tonight's show, is what the situation is in South Africa for our brothers and sisters and what we can do to help.
And that's why we are dedicating, we almost never do this, but dedicating an entire show to a single guest and a single topic.
It is that important and we do need to raise awareness.
And Simon is the champion of that mission here on this continent and doing the Lord's work indeed, even if his church will not support the effort, his apostate church.
Anyway, we're going to get into this a little more deeply with Eddie.
And also in the studio tonight, I should make mention is one of our most generous financial contributors to the political cesspool.
He and his beautiful wife have made the trip down from their port of call and they are sponsoring Simon's visit to Memphis this weekend, both here in the studio and a small reception that we're having for him tomorrow.
So we want to thank him.
He knows who he is.
We won't mention a name, but they're great people.
And we're going to explore this with them and Keith and Eddie this segment.
But first, just very quickly, a broad question.
What is going on in South Africa that the American people, particularly the white American people, are completely oblivious to?
Well, what's not being reported by the mainstream media is a broad category of crimes.
In South Africa, we're now in the 24th year of multiracial democracy under the African National Congress of Nelson Mandela.
In this 23 odd years that have passed already, more than 74,000 white people have been murdered by black people.
It's so severe that the probability of any white person, including a two-year-old girl or a 90-year-old granny, being murdered by a black person in South Africa is 1,370% higher than any American being murdered in their lifetime by anybody else.
1,370%.
That gives you a sense of perspective.
In fact, the statistical likelihood of being murdered by a black person, a white person being murdered by a black person, is almost half, almost half the likelihood that an American frontline infantryman stood of being killed in Vietnam, whether people can believe that or not.
That's how severe the situation is.
The farmers in South Africa are particularly being affected.
We have a situation now in which the farm murder rate in South Africa makes farming by whites in South Africa far and away the most dangerous occupation anywhere in the world, including mining and crab fishing and you name it, they just don't compare.
To give you some sense of perspective, and of course this is not by any means an endorsement of or a kind of tacit toleration of lynching of black people.
By no means is it that.
However, it does provide a sense of perspective.
The chances of a white person being murdered by a black person in South Africa are 14,970% higher than any black person stood of being lynched in the USA.
Just to give a sense of perspective, not to justify lynching.
So it is far more severe than the world realizes.
But there's a simple reason why the international media, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, National Geographic, BBC, Sky News, Canal Plus, TV Monde, there's a simple reason why they don't report on this thing because it would make them look very foolish in the eyes of the Western media consumer.
After 40 years of having rammed down their throats by the global capital driven mainstream media that harmony and integration and multiracial and this and that and the next thing, Nelson Mandela, what a beautiful smile, blah, You know, imagine now if they turned around and said, oh, dear me, the highest rate of rape in the world is happening in South Africa.
The highest rate of murder in the world is happening against white South African farmers.
One of the highest rates of murder in the world is happening against any and all white South Africans, farmers aside.
You know, it's going to make them look like they were either fools all the time, idiots not to be trusted, or out and out liars.
One way or the other, they're going to lose tremendous credibility.
So it's in their best interest to pretend that this is not happening.
But an ordinary thinking person with just a little bit of common sense can tell for themselves that if these egregious, phenomenal statistics were occurring in Kentucky or Cambodia or Kazakhstan or Denmark, it would be on the front pages of every newspaper in the world, morning, noon and night.
You know, three people get killed by a truck in Luxembourg and it's on the front pages of these websites.
We're in a situation where over 74,000 people have been murdered and nobody's talking about it.
Clearly, there has to be a reason.
Wow.
And I would like to say, before I ask you a question, Simon, Simon, I consider you my brother.
You're so incredible.
I defer you in all ways.
You've got more guts than anybody I know, and more righteousness.
You're a true Christian, my brother.
I'd also like to say one of the main reasons the international media does not report this is because they want that to happen.
They're our enemies.
They're our Christian-hating Jewish brothers of Abraham.
That's why they don't report this.
They want it to happen.
They want this atrocity to happen and they want it to come over here.
And now I want to ask my brother, Simon.
Simon, maybe I'll be a fair question because I don't know if you've been in the country long enough to see, but are there any parallels here in the United States that parallel what happened in Rhodesia and South Africa leading up to the genocide?
Well, yes, there are distinct parallels.
I should point out that as an organization, Satlanders, the organization that I represent, which is the world's largest non-state-owned civil defense organization constituted under the provisions of international humanitarian law, the specific legal provisions, doesn't take a line on the Jewish question.
We don't take a line against blacks.
We're very introspective.
We look inwards towards our own welfare.
So we're not a hating organization.
We're devoted purely to the protection of women and children in conflict.
And that conflict necessitates that we mention the statistics that we do.
Otherwise, it just doesn't make any sense.
But we don't necessarily have an angle on, for example, the Jewish question.
And it's important that I mention that.
But to answer your question, Eddie, yes, there are distinct parallels.
I had the great privilege of speaking at American Renaissance Amerin conference last Sunday morning.
And I said to the guys gathered there with great respect, I didn't want to give anybody any offense, but it's too late.
It is too late, whether people can see it here or not.
I said to them, it's a bit like I and they go to watch a movie, and during the course of the movie, I keep on making comments.
You know, his wife is the murderer.
The butler covered it up.
The weapon is in the bottom of the swimming pool, and so on and so forth.
And at the end of the movie, we come out and you turn to me and you say, gee, you really ruined that movie for me.
You know, you didn't have to say all that, but how did you know?
And I say, well, I've been dying to see this movie.
I couldn't resist the urge.
I went and watched it last night.
I'd seen the movie already.
And therefore, with great respect and in deep humility, because I'm not here to discourage Americans.
I'm not here to be a poor guest in somebody else's house, that is to say, in the USA.
But the reality is that the way this thing is perpetrated against the Caucasian peoples of the West is a bit like a python climbing into the sleeping bag of a camper.
Slithers in through the tent, a gap in the tent, and climbs into the sleeping bag and slithers softly, silkenly across the skin of the camper in such a way that the person in their sleep, in their dream state, appreciates, enjoys the sensation.
Only once it has fully wrapped itself around this poor camper does it clench tight.
Does it constrict?
Then it's too late.
And I tell you, I'm sorry to say this.
I have tears in my eyes.
But it is too late.
What you're seeing happen now, this brazen playing of the cards of your enemy is only happening.
Because they don't have to care anymore.
What a guest.
Ladies and gentlemen, I got to tell you, I have interviewed a lot of people and we've had a lot of people on this show over the course of the last 13 years, but I'm enjoying this as much as any that I can remember.
And I'm not just saying that because this man is sitting across the studio from me tonight.
I hope you're enjoying it that much as well because there's a lot more of it to come right after this.
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Well, folks, we're actually having such a good time in the studio tonight.
We came back live before we were ready.
We had a pretty nice spread in the green room tonight, and Simon's up indulging, and we actually just sent a runner to go get him.
And so he'll be back in with us in just a second.
But Keith, your takeaways from the interview so far as we prepare for the next question for Simon, and here he comes now.
Well, it's fascinating, and Simon walks in as I speak.
Let me ask you, Simon, specifically, what is the demographic breakdown of South African?
How many whites, how many blacks?
Are there any subdivisions in the black part?
And what is their political importance?
Likewise, are there any breakdowns in the white population?
And what, if any, is the political importance of that breakdown?
That's a good question, Keith.
We have a population of around about 55 million people.
I read recently that it's fast approaching 56 million.
Of that, the whites are about 8.5%, about 4.7 million people.
The colored people, that is to say the mixed race people who adamantly insist upon being called coloured and who keep themselves separate from the black people are similar in number.
And we have an Indian population a little bit smaller again.
And the balance around about 42 million is black people, as you and I would know, black people.
In the white population, there is a massive divide between the liberals who believe that they're living in some kind of a rainbow nation, who believe the rhetoric that has been shoved down their throats incessantly,
and who are insulated from this crisis by the fact that they still have their jobs and they're living behind very, very high walls, 10, 12, 14 foot, 24 foot walls in certain suburbs.
And, you know, it's very easy to brainwash a people.
That is not a difficult thing to do.
So you have a situation in which about 50% of the white people are still fast asleep and about another 50% have woken up, of whom maybe half again are what you would consider a brother-in-arms, as it were, somebody who thinks similar to you, somebody who's right-wing, very conservative, Christian, and who's sick of the nonsense.
That's the ideological split.
What about the ethnic split among whites?
I've heard they're Boers and there are English speakers or people derived from English settlers.
How does that break down and how is that important politically or is it?
Well, historically it has been very important.
About 60% of the white people in South Africa are from the three Protestant groups that came to South Africa in the 1600s, particularly as Protestant groups.
They came as Lutherans, Huguenots, and Calvinists, and they melded together to form the population group now known as the Boers.
The English speakers come from both English immigrants and other groups such as my family, which is thoroughly Irish and German.
So we're English speakers, but we're not English.
We're not from the English settlers.
come from Irish people who came, very, very poor people who came to work in an explosives and fertilizer factory.
Does that answer your question, Keith?
Somewhat, what was the high point in terms of percentage of white population in South Africa?
Was it ever any higher than it is now?
Or is this a high mark?
Oh, it was tremendously higher as a proportion.
You know, Keith, the black population of South Africa in the early 1900s was about 2 million.
In recent days, I've been comparing sources and I saw one source that suggested that it might have been as high as 3 million.
Right.
By 1950, that number had gone over 5 million.
This is black people.
By 1990, it had reached 40 million.
So if we speak in sociological and anthropological terms, then we use 25 years as the rule of thumb for a generation.
Some people procreate at the age of 11, God forbid, and some people procreate at the age of 50.
Now, the sociologists nominally use 25 years as a generation.
So you can clearly see a 2,000% population explosion over three and a half generations.
This is unheard of in the world.
Absolutely unheard of.
Can you imagine a population going in three and a half generations from two to three million to 40 million?
That was the growth in the black population in South Africa.
Now, obviously, the whites did not grow that fast.
And so, you know, 100 years ago, the white population was, as a percentage, as a proportion, far higher than it is now.
Let me ask you this.
Is this big increase in the black population due to just fertility of the people that were there?
Or do you have an immigration problem in South Africa like we have here in the United States?
Well, look, if you reverse the population trends and if you look at the wars that happened in South Africa in the 19th century, then you can see that the population had been stable between a million and three million for a very, very long period of time.
That population was able to explode, as it did, by virtue of two things.
The first is the apartheid, we are not apologists for apartheid.
St. London's organization doesn't say apartheid was a ball of laughs for everybody.
But what we do say is that the narrative, as it has been shoved down the throats of the Western world, and it is the Western world, you know, this narrative was not shoved down the throats of Uzbekistanis.
Let's just say it plainly, the Western world means the white world, right?
Well, yes, you put a fine point on it, but yes, I grant you that.
The simple reality is that what has been told to the world is an out-and-out lie.
This population was able to explode so tremendously because of labor and income, work, income, hospitals.
If you ever, Keith, feel the sudden urge to do a pilgrimage to Nelson Mandela's home in the township of Soweto, you will drive past the world's largest hospital built by the racist whites for the black people of South Africa, amongst many other hospitals, hundreds and hundreds, but the world's largest hospital is in the township of Soweto.
It's on the left-hand side as you drive towards Nelson Mandela's house.
Now, I understand that a lot of these blacks in South Africa today are not homegrown.
They are coming from other parts of Africa.
They're apparently attracted to South Africa for some reason.
What's the attraction?
Well, the attraction is a meal or two or three every day.
The simple reality is that even during apartheid, this is a very well-known thing, and listeners can look it up.
During apartheid, the influx of illegal immigrants, black African immigrants, out of the liberated countries of Africa into apartheid South Africa was so severe that the government farmed out contracts to private companies to try and absorb these people into the economy.
The government itself could not keep up.
People were elbowing one another out of the way to get into apartheid South Africa.
Whether people like what I'm saying or they don't like what I'm saying, the statistics are there, the facts are there, they can research it and they can see it for themselves.
Apparently, apartheid one is tough on them as Black Rule, right?
Hey, Simon, you know, you're trying to get your people a separate homeland there, right?
All right.
Now, my question is, and I've heard some detractors say that you would be better off leaving your homeland there coming here.
Well, to that, I would say we here in the South are fighting for our lives for our own homeland.
We're under attack by our government here.
What could we do to help you?
My question is, what could we do to help you get your homeland?
And do you follow my point of what I'm saying?
I don't think you could really benefit by coming to this country here because white people here are under attack.
You were just making mention of that.
We're probably about 10 years behind about high in South Africa.
Well, yes, Eddie.
Many white people have left South Africa.
The statisticians say that the white population of South Africa should be 5.5 million more or less at present.
It is instead 4.7 million, give or take.
The missing 800,000 are whites that have left South Africa to pursue opportunities in New Zealand, Australia, Canada, and elsewhere because of the rates of rape and murder and the affirmative action policies and so on.
However, I represent those people who have no intention of leaving.
We want to stay, to stand our ground for the beautiful, beautiful land that our forefathers built with blood, sweat, and tears.
When we arrived in the USA, we met a man who had been an elderly man and he had been a travel journalist all of his life.
And he said to us that he had been to something like 140 of the world's 190 odd countries.
And he said, South Africa is head, shoulders, thorax, and abdomen the most beautiful country in the world.
We had a lovely, lovely country.
And we, we, happen to be those who have got no intention of leaving.
Well, I can appreciate that as a southerner, having lost our nation and still struggling to regain some semblance of it.
But I will say this as we're coming up to the end of the first hour.
An incredible amount of chatter on Twitter, email, even text messages for the few of those people out there who know my private number.
Very much enjoying Simon.
And I've been on the radio for 13 years and few guests have matched Simon's command of an issue.
His organization is very well served tonight.
If you've enjoyed the first hour, we've got two more coming for you right after this.