March 4, 2017 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Well, welcome back, everybody, to the second hour of tonight's live podcast.
It's amazing what producers and studio engineers can do for you from afar, even when you're not in the studio, as I am tonight on the road.
But we did some intensive troubleshooting during that extended break at the top of the hour, so I'm back at full strength after starting off the show strong and then having to go to the cell phone for three segments.
But now I am back and hopefully sounding as good as I possibly can.
I want to thank Keith Alexander for his contributions during the first hour.
And from there, we move forward.
We've got a special guest who'll be joining us at the top of the next segment.
Bill Johnson is our featured guest for the evening, William Johnson Esquire, if you will, the chairman of the American Freedom Party, all-around good guy, a man who is no stranger to headlines himself, having made quite a few of them during the campaign of 2016.
Great man, great guest, and we're looking forward to having him on in just a moment.
But business must intrude and business must come first.
So if you are a regular contributor to this groundbreaking talk radio program, you by now should have received from me a letter in the mail.
And that letter in the mail is our first quarter fundraising drive.
I have said it before.
I will say it one more time and one more time only.
And then we're going to move forward because we have a lot to accomplish this year.
And this is what we want to focus on this year.
But it is true, and it should not be forgotten, how unprecedented last year was for this radio program to have received press credentials to Donald Trump's rallies, to the Republican National Convention, to be named one of the top 20 right-wing media fixtures responsible for Trump.
How about that?
And to also be declared by Hillary Clinton to be extremists who would shape our country during the Trump administration, quote unquote.
Well, I wish that last part was true, but maybe there's still time.
We experienced all this, of course, under the glaring spotlight of a relentlessly hostile media, and we prevailed.
But you'd be sorely mistaken if you thought that we were going to take it easy in 2017 after such a high-profile year.
Quite the contrary.
Already this year, we've enjoyed VIP access to the inauguration of Donald Trump, sitting there on the front row, no more than a few feet away from the president when he took the oath of office.
Media interest in this show also persists.
For example, I was recently approached by representatives of the History Channel who sought to feature me in an upcoming documentary.
And then on Wednesday, if I accept the invitation, I will be giving a presentation to a major university.
And we'll tell you more about that, but not yet, because we want to get through it first.
Indeed, you could argue that the influence of this show has not been greater.
As I mentioned, be looking for that letter in the mail that I sent you that offers you some additional details on how we're charting new and exciting territory.
But some things don't change, and you know how much I hate to do this, ladies and gentlemen.
It is the worst part of my job, but it is something that I have to do four times a year anyway, if you want to see us in the interim.
In the meantime, our need for your financial support is a constant.
More people may be interested in what we are doing than ever before, but of course, no corporate sponsor is going to touch us because of our unwillingness to tone it down on the signature issues that we bring to bear.
We do remain listener supported, as you well know, after all these years.
Our costs of production are always increasing, as everything in life does when it comes to cost, inflation, and whatnot.
And I'm still engaged as the plaintiff in a bitter legal battle against a major American newspaper.
Now, if I prevail in court, that will be an unprecedented victory that will shock the establishment.
But all of these efforts, from keeping us on the air to supporting some of these extra activities, do need funding to endure.
So, our first quarter fundraising drive kicked off on March 1st, and we're asking for your help.
Your contributions of $25, $50,000, $200, even $500.
Everything helps us move the needle toward the next victory.
This radio program occupies a unique position in our movement, has proven itself capable of gaining access to guests and events that others haven't been able to do.
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And, of course, we are happy to be able to extend to you, through your benevolence and God's grace, a seat at the table for our people.
But we must remain on the airwaves in order to continue.
So, I ask if I can count on you to stand with us this year, as you have done so many times before, so we can make this year, 2017, as triumphant as the last.
So, as always, we give you a great incentive offer.
And the incentive for this first quarter fundraising drive of 2017, for contributors of $100 or more, you're going to get a copy of the book, The Truth About Selma, What Happened When the Cameras Left and the Marching Stopped.
The Truth About Selma by Paul Kersey, one of our most flamboyant guests, really a great interview.
He was on to talk about the fake movie Hidden Figures back, I think, on the Christmas Eve broadcast there in December.
He gave a great interview.
So, I was working with Paul.
And Paul said not only would he provide these books for us, he would autograph them to anyone who contributes $100 or more.
So, as a southerner, of course, I am interested in what happened in Selma and how Selma has become sort of a sanctified city in the eyes of the swindle whites movement, the so-called civil rights movement.
But, of course, in actuality, Selma is now an 85% black city that is falling apart.
If you looked at Selma and you looked at Dresden, you would think, for sure, we lost World War II.
And so, if you want to know how that happened, what happened to Selma, you need to read the truth about Selma, and you can get that.
You get a great gift while helping keep your favorite show on the air.
And anyway, you have until the end of the month.
Of course, I always get a little nervous at the beginning of the month until all the grains brought into the storehouse.
We're not going to have enough food to eat to keep us on the air until the next quarterly fundraising drive.
So, a lot of people have already responded, but we need a lot more.
And I wish we didn't.
I wish we never had to do this, but unfortunately, we do it four times a year because we have to.
I'm just thankful we don't have to do it five times a year.
But that's it.
I wanted to get that business out of the way so we can enjoy the rest of the hour and get back to the topics at hand.
A little preview of what's coming up for the remainder of the program.
With me being out of town this evening, I will be vacating my seat during the third hour.
Sam Bushman's going to slide in and take over.
And he has, I was talking to Sam during one of the breaks a moment ago.
He has a very interesting topic to bring to your attention during the third hour, and I'm sure he will give it an excellent treatment.
So, stay tuned for that in the third hour.
But first, now that the work has been done, we're going to get back to having a good time with William Johnson, Bill Johnson of the American Freedom Party, successful attorney, lifelong advocate for our people.
And then, of course, his work with the AFP has been well known for a long time, but perhaps never more so than last year when he was running the Robocalls and when he was doing all sorts of things.
Delegate for Trump in California, at least for a minute.
He was that.
And we're going to talk to Bill about some contemporary issues where he sees our people, the standing of our people in the current year, and what we can expect as we move forward and some of the other topics of interest to Bill Johnson.
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And now, back to tonight's show.
All right, folks, we're back with our featured guest of the evening, Bill Johnson, and joined by an even extra special guest, Mrs. William Johnson, is going to join us.
Now, if you've not heard her before, she made an appearance on another program broadcast on this network and absolutely hit it out of the park.
And so having the opportunity to have both of them join us this evening was one that I wanted to take advantage of.
Bill, thanks for being with me again, old friend.
How's the weather out there in California?
Oh, thank you for having me on.
And I always enjoy being here with you.
And the weather, of course, is fine.
But one thing I want to tell you is that your show has a much larger reputation and audience than you know, because particularly among the media itself.
I did an interview recently with Huffington Post, and I dropped your name.
I dropped this political cesspool.
And the person that interviewed me, so, well, what is his influence in the nationalist movement?
She was curious to find out what your status was in the movement because she had heard so much about you and that political cesspool.
So what I think is that you have a nice listening audience, but I think that you have, particularly among the left-wing media, people are following you closer than you realize.
Well, we do generate some interest, that's for sure.
And that's something that you can relate to.
I will tell you one quick, quick story along those lines.
And thank you for sharing that with me, Bill.
That certainly does make me feel good.
I don't know if I've ever shared this with the audience, even after all of these years.
But a long time ago in a former life, when I was in my late teens, early 20s, I coached a youth bowling league.
This is I did.
And I had a great time doing it.
And honestly, through that experience, I actually gained a lot of organizational skills.
I mean, because I poured my whole self into it as if it was managing the White House.
To me, anything I do, I try to do it to the best of my ability.
I arranged field trips for these kids, and we did special events and parties and award ceremony and trophy presentations.
And I did that for about five years.
And it was the same kids every year, so they kind of grew up with me.
And I grew up with them, I guess you could say, even though they were much 10 years younger than me, even at the time.
And their parents.
Well, now that was a long, long time ago.
I think the last year I did that was even before the show started.
So it had to be prior to 2004, maybe 2001, something like that was my last year doing that.
Just tonight before the show started, one of the girls that was in that bowling league, who I haven't heard from in 15, 16 years, tracked me down through the website.
She said her husband was talking about me tonight and just talking about, oh, have you ever heard of James Edwards, this guy on the political?
They live in Memphis, of course.
And she said, I think you're talking about my old bowling coach.
So anyway, you never know.
You never know.
And I haven't responded to her email yet, but I will.
So, Marie, I got your email.
And I'm glad your husband is a fan.
Okay, so anyway, Bill, what do we want to talk about tonight?
So much we can talk about with you because you're so versatile.
Well, actually, the question that you asked in the break, I think, is a very good question that we should talk about.
And I'd be happy to have you pose that.
And then I'll probably turn the mic over to my wife to let her answer it first.
Well, when we were queued up before the break, I said, well, maybe an interesting topic to cover would be your opinion on whether or not the alt-right, if you will, or white interests were better served with Trump being elected president, or would they have been better served ultimately by Hillary being elected president?
Now, don't get me wrong, ladies and gentlemen.
We all voted for Trump here.
We were all big supporters of Trump in many, many ways.
And so, believe me, I'm glad Trump won.
I wouldn't have had it any other way.
But this is just sort of an off-the-wall discussion.
We're glad the media got their comeuppance.
We're glad Hillary didn't win, but ultimately for our people, did Trump release some of that pressure and angst that had been building up?
Do we think that America has been saved now?
Or would it have been better if Hillary had radicalized people even further, if Hillary had made it so much worse so much more quickly?
That is the, of course, worse is better scenario.
I don't subscribe to that, but at the same time, it does open up an interesting line of conversation.
Well, I thought that better than me asking that question, I should ask probably Trump's number one supporter who's sitting right next to me, my wife.
Mrs. Johnson, the floor is yours.
Hello, and thank you for having me here.
I'm very honored to be part of your amazing show.
Thank you.
I think that we needed Trump now, and I think that Obama and California caused the breaking point.
That the realization that you're hoping for or wondering if it would happen if Hillary Clinton were elected, I think has already hit our people.
Living here in California, it's just dismally dismal and hopeless because there's no one in, no Republicans, no, of course no conservatives, no nationalists in the government.
And Orange County, that beautiful Orange County that used to be reliably just Republican, just went Democrat.
And so it's just so hopeless in California.
And I feel like the rest of the country knows that about California, and that was their wake-up call.
They don't want to become like California.
And I believe that Obama's two main goals were to bankrupt America and bring in as many non-whites, non-Christians as possible.
And he succeeded on both levels to such an extent that I think his behavior really woke up our people.
And I think that if Hillary had won, the whole country would have become like California, so inundated by non-American, non-white, non-Christians that it would have been irreparable and beyond the point of return.
So that's my opinion.
So I'm very grateful for that.
I would agree with you, Mrs. Johnson.
Of course, I'm happy that Trump won.
We still support Trump.
We supported Trump then.
We support Trump now.
Some would put forth the argument that no, Trump's not the ultimate answer.
All it did was stave off the inevitable.
It's better to go ahead and blow it all up now so the rebuilding can occur.
Sometimes throughout history, that has been the truth, but in most cases, worse is just worse.
But I think we need to give the benefit of the doubt to Donald Trump because he may turn out to be a stronger nationalist, a stronger racial nationalist than we could have hoped for in our wildest dreams.
And the reason why I say that is because Trump, more than anybody else that has ever been elected to office, maybe since Andrew Jackson, is intractable and moves forward according to the dictates of his own personal conscience.
And I think that he was the way that he was reared by his parents and the way that he has conducted his life, he can see the way this country is progressing.
And since he will not back down no matter what the pressure is, if he thinks our position is right, he will pursue that no matter what the opposition is.
So I hold hope that he will be a stronger nationalist, a stronger racial nationalist than we that elected him hoped him to be.
I think there is reason to invest some hope in that.
I think certainly Trump is a man, much like us, who just has this drive.
And the more opposition he comes up against, it just makes him redouble his efforts and is even more determined.
Although, of course, and we covered this at the first hour, probably spent too much time covering it the first hour.
His most recent speech before Congress, it is certainly your take on that.
I don't even need to go further.
Yeah, no, the point that I want to make is that I have watched the various issues that have come before him now, and I was thinking, how would I handle it if I were in his shoes?
And I am a hardcore white nationalist, and my approach would have been more timid and less forceful than his would be.
And so I'm thinking, wow, you know, we have the right man for the job.
So let's give him time.
And he needs to move into this position slowly.
So regardless of some of the issues that he takes that we may not agree with, you know, it's going to be a zigzag approach towards the success that we want to achieve.
I think that's a sober treatment of the situation, including his address to Congress.
And with that, Bill wrapped up at the perfect moment because we're going to another break and we have two more segments with Mrs. and Mrs. Williams.
Mr. and Mrs., I should say.
Mr. and Mrs. Peter Johnson.
When we come back, two talented people and dear people will be right back.
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The Los Angeles conference of the U.S. Professional Association for Transgender Health, or U.S. PATH, degenerated into an ugly display of intolerance and identity politics with gender-confused kids as ideological pawns, reports Mary Hassan of the Federalist.
Transgender activists and allied medical professionals colluded to kick a dissenting expert, Kenneth Zucker, off the program, justified their censorship by indirectly blaming President Trump, and declared victory.
The U.S. PATH event, which was held from February 2nd to 5th, drew more than 600 medical clinicians and scientific researchers who deal with gender-confused adults, adolescents, and children.
Gender dysphoria, a sense of acute discomfort with one's biological sex, is a recognized clinical condition in a minuscule portion of the human population.
And in the overwhelming majority of cases that begin in adolescence, the condition cures itself by adulthood.
Dr. Zucker, a psychologist with years of experience treating this disorder, was scheduled to participate in several panels at the conference.
Hassan describes him as a token voice representing politically disfavored but scientifically weighty research that cautions against labeling gender-confused children as transgender.
A knot of militant trans activists disrupted the conference, denouncing it for pathologizing our experiences, and then succeeded in having Zucker evicted from the event, which went on to include favorable discussion of experimental medical interventions on young people who succumb to the transgender social media and identify with genders other than their biological sex.
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Well, we had scheduled tonight, Bill Johnson of the American Freedom Party.
And we got that and much more.
We got the complete package.
We got the couple, Mr. and Mrs. Johnson.
And I am sure you are as excited to hear what she has to say as I do because it is rare to have a woman in the studio.
So, or on the line with me being out of town tonight, I shouldn't say in the studio.
I'm used to saying that because I'm normally in the studio when we're live on the air.
But Bill, I was going to ask you, of course, and we made mention of the fact earlier that your activities last year were quite well known and widely publicized.
What have you been up to since the election?
And what's your plans for the rest of the year?
Oh, well, thank you very much.
It's still been exciting after the election because, well, before the election, I was doing many media interviews, sometimes 20 a week.
And now it's been after the election.
I still maybe do three or so interviews a week with various media people, but not only with the media, I'm finding that a lot of university students are calling up because they're having to write a paper.
And so I am writing, I'm interviewing with them and I'm interviewing with the media and I'm giving my position.
I'm kind of moving to a point of where I'm almost like a pundit where they ask my opinion as opposed to being a circa sideshow freak like I was many years ago.
And so that is interesting.
But also, we have the American Freedom Party is growing and we're getting a lot more involvement there.
We're gearing up to people to start running for office in about a year and a half.
And we've already had some people that are interested in running.
I'm doing also a bi-weekly internet interview with Ken Daly of the Daily Ken.
And we have three of us.
He's on with me.
And then we have a Harvard journalism student that's extreme left.
He's a Hispanic black man, and he appears, so appears with us.
And we talk about topics like that.
But I guess maybe the most interesting development is that we just added recently a new member of our board whose name is Rick Tyler, and he brings a unique perspective in that he, you know, I've always wanted to view the importance of the family, make that more important.
And my wife and I have five children, and I was talking to Rick when he was coming on board, and I said, well, Rick, how many children do you have?
He says, well, I have 18 children and one on the way.
He's younger than I am.
Wow.
That matches Sam Bushman and Kurt Crosby combined.
Well, after he has the next one, he will match them combined.
And 19.
My goodness.
But see, my wife often talks about how come people in the movement don't have any kids or very many kids.
And I know that you have two.
And I don't know what your plans are for more.
But when you meet someone like Sam and Mr. Crosby and then this Rick Tyler, it just makes my wife feel good because there's so many kids for the next generation.
If we were all doing that, the demographic replacement would be much further down the line.
God bless y'all.
Hey, and it's not to say that you two are any slouches with five.
That is certainly more than 2.1.
Well, but also, in addition, my wife has done a really good job rearing our children, and that's what I'm so proud of her for.
Well, I'd like to ask her about that, if you don't mind, Bill.
So this is an interesting topic.
And again, we're just kind of freewheeling right now.
And we can go wherever we want to in an interview like this.
This is a practical question that everyone in our audience can relate to.
Y'all have raised five children.
How do you go about, or what advice would you give young families or families to be in our audience about raising children in this anti-white, anti-Christian environment where they are inundated 24 hours a day, seven days a week, with soul-rotting propaganda from the media, from schools, from universities, everywhere they turn, just about.
How does a decent mother and father go about raising a child in this day and age?
Well, my opinion is the following.
You have to define what's important to the children.
And the things that are important are God, family, and country.
Here, here.
Yes.
And you have to have a very strong, loving family unit so that your children can trust you as parents.
And I just have to put a plug for having children.
Our pop culture today really demeans motherhood.
And I have a master's degree.
And I still, I think, though, that my career is much less important than my family.
And the family gives me the greatest joy.
You know, my husband and me, our children give us the greatest joy in life.
Yes, it's hard, but it's the most rewarding thing you can do is to have a loving relationship with your spouse and then a family.
So we raised our children in a multicultural society, and it was a constant battle because they would go to school and have friends that taught them exactly the opposite of what we wanted them to know.
My oldest daughter in third grade came home crying one day because she had just learned about the Indians and how horrible the white people are in murdering them all and taking their land and we're just the most horrible people.
She actually came home crying and said, why are we such horrible people?
And it's just a constant barrage of that.
You know, just the non-white boys trying to ask out my daughters and they, you know, they don't understand.
So I think some of the keys are to show them love and advocacy and support while being firm with discipline and following the rules.
And then when they are out in the world and they learn about how multiculturalism is so wonderful and they see that we don't believe that way, they're really in a big turmoil in their mind.
They don't know what to believe because their friends are not white.
And so we show respect to all people.
We love all people, but we teach our children at home that our country is being overtaken because we are not righteous anymore.
And then when they are in the dilemma of believing the world that their parents are crazy, they know we're not.
They know that we're wise and we're loving and strong in our bonds and kind.
And so they can trust us in our political beliefs and in our Christian beliefs too.
A phenomenal answer.
And I would follow it up with this.
Do you think that that island that is the home, a good home, do you think two parents, a man and a woman, can raise children that their ancestors would be proud of even with this inundation that they are faced with, this hurricane that swirls around the home, battering it on every front.
You think two godly, decent people can raise children that will overcome all of that?
I do because we've done it.
And they're socially accepted in the world, but they have our beliefs.
It's really a constant challenge.
I mean, our kids go to high school and they have to wear the pink wristbands to support homosexuality and lesbian, you know, LGBT and all that kind of stuff.
And all of it is just horrific to me that, you know, they're being taught that.
So it can be done.
Again, you have to have a tight family unit.
They have to trust you and know that you're intelligent and loving and kind.
And then they trust your philosophy, do a lot of family things together, pray together, and read the scriptures together because nowhere in the scriptures, nowhere does it say to mix the races.
Excellent.
Excellent.
And also, I think it's important, because I've watched my wife rear our children, that you don't want to be overbearing.
And also, you young parents, realize that in order to overcome the anti-white propaganda that your children get in the schools and everywhere, it's a long process.
And our children came into a racial awareness and pride of who they are only as they grew towards maturity.
And it's important that you nurture your children in all aspects of it and you don't be overbearing and realize that they want to get along.
They want to be friends with everyone.
And so you have to encourage that.
And only through, I guess, the prayerful and artful presentation of our views will they finally come around when they reach maturity.
Well, I really appreciate that y'all approach this from a biblical perspective also because, of course, this program does.
And it's one of the few, even in our own movement, that reconciles faith and our spiritual heritage and our racial heritage.
And I think that those two things are congruent with one another and certainly not at odds.
Even amongst our own ranks, and with so many great people who are great friends of ours uh they, they choose only one and not both, and so it's.
It's always unique and to me, I feel like i'm completely at home with people who who are both the men and women of faith, but also are right thinking on all these issues that this show brings to life.
Well, we've got another break and, when we come back, one final segment.
This is a kind of show, a conversation like this that you wish could go all night long.
I hope we have one final segment with the Johnsons right after this.
Let's hang on and come back to the political cesspool right after these messages here on the Liberty News Radio Network.
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One more segment with Mr. and Mrs. Bill Johnson, but first a caller from Kentucky.
Very quick.
Dee, you're on the air.
Yes, I just tuned in, so I'm not really sure what the topic is, but I heard this woman's verbiage about how they send their daughters to the public school and they go to school with this multiracial group of children and that they're asking her daughters out and that they're teaching their children to love everybody and them, them, them, them.
All that liberal crap.
And then you commented, but that's such a wonderful response.
It's not a wonderful response.
It's horrific.
Absolutely horrific.
And this is the travesty of the white people today.
They need to get their children out of the public schools.
All right, thank you for the call.
I will respond to that.
Thank you for the call.
I appreciate your opinion.
I will say that I do the exact same thing.
I teach my children to respect and treat everyone with kindness and decency as we would want to be.
I mean, I have very young children, you know, hardly old enough to comprehend what's going on in this world, a six-year-old and a two-year-old, but even at that age, I mean, I certainly don't tell them to frown upon others, but to also be proud of our heritage.
And of course, at that age, it's hard to really get into a deep ideological conversation.
But no, I mean, to take the point on, I do tell my children the same, of course, to treat everybody kindly.
I mean, what do you want to do?
Not get along with people?
You heard part of that, Mrs. Johnson.
Would you respond to that?
Sending the kids to public schools and telling them to be kind to everyone.
I mean, I could understand, I guess, where the caller was coming from, but your response.
You know, since I've raised my five children in public school, it was always difficult for me because of what they were taught there.
And now they're all grown and gone, and they're stable, happy Christian adults, good people, but they do have to live in this country and in this world.
So I think they do have, of course, they have to get along with everybody.
But I'm to the point now where I'm more of an advocate of homeschooling just because of what they're taught in the public schools.
Well, constant barrage.
Your children are a little older.
Of course, there was a time, and I understand what Dee was saying about the public schools.
Yes, sending children to public school is a risk that you wouldn't want to take if you had other options.
But there was a time, of course, particularly back prior to integration, when the public schools in America were just fine.
And if you go to a public school in, well, I don't know, Montana, for instance, yeah, you're going to get this PC garbage, but you are going to get a decent education.
So in some locations, depending on your location and its demographics, if you cannot afford to send your kids to private schools, and many people can at $10,000 a year or more, and public school is the only option.
You could homeschool, but we have so many broken families now.
And we homeschool our daughter.
But a lot of people don't have that opportunity because it takes, in many cases, both parents working now if both parents are in the house, which is increasingly rare also.
So there's no easy choice.
Yes, but I think that the private schools often have the same political trappings and drawbacks that public schools have.
And homeschooling, although you're able to direct what they're learning, it has its drawbacks too.
So the school that our children went to was one of the best schools in California, even though it was a private school, a public school.
And most of their classmates were white, even though we live in L.A.
It's a very white town we live in.
And so they got direction from us to counter the propaganda, the anti-white propaganda that was given them in the schools.
And so I think it was a good balance.
And if I had to do it over again, even now, I would send my kids to public school.
Okay, I was going to follow up with that.
That's interesting.
So you double down and don't regret that and you would still send.
Well, I think the proof is in the pudding.
Our children are well balanced and they're on the right track.
And I think that combination of school, church, and home life really gave them a good foundation.
So I think that you can still educate your children in public school systems.
And you have to realize that when you're in a unique group inside that school, that gives you a special ideological consideration in the back of your mind.
You want to always stand out and do what is right.
So it urges you to do what is right.
Well, you addressed this just a second ago, but I would repose the question just for a clear understanding.
Of course, prior to busing and all of that mess, if you went to anything other than a public school, it was because you were either a Catholic or a problem child.
But then, of course, after they integrated the schools and ruined public education in certain areas.
And of course, it's bad everywhere with regards to matters of faith.
I mean, every public school is bad on that front.
But after integration happened in the schools, all of these wasn't it interesting that all of these Christian schools all of a sudden just popped up.
Well, of course, they were Christian schools, but they also existed as a means to get these kids out of these public school war zones, especially in places like Memphis and with majority or heavy non-white population.
The opportunity, though, Bill, to send them to private Christian school.
Why did you choose public over even a private Christian school?
Well, because I was educated in a public school.
Our particular public school was good.
And I do think that for having our children mix with the kids in their community is very important because on the soccer team and on the softball team, they were with the same kids that they went to school with.
Now, our school, our little town, has several private Christian schools in it.
And people from a lot of different areas come in, they send their kids there.
Like, I mean, all the famous, a lot of the kids of famous actors and actresses, their kids go there to our school, but they go to the private schools in our town, but they're still outside of our town because they don't live in our town.
So I think that it is good continuity if you can send your kids to the same school that the other kids go to when you're on the weekends that they mingle with is a good thing.
Well, and you said also, I mean, of course, you say, and make no, you don't mince any words about it.
You say, I am a committed and dedicated white nationalist.
And anyone who has ever looked at your portfolio would be hard-pressed to say, well, Bill's not doing enough.
I mean, very few have done more than you in terms of providing resources and putting your name out there and taking the scars and the arrows that come from being an outspoken leader for our people.
So no one can say that by saying it is important for your kids to go and be in the world but not of the world, that in any way you are not committed.
I would say that certainly there are very few that are more committed.
But it is interesting that y'all made that choice.
But again, it all comes down to the demographics of your area.
A public school in certain majority white areas would probably be okay.
Because let me tell you, a lot of the Christian schools, if not all of the Christian schools now, this was different when I was coming up in the 80s and I went to a private Christian school.
The Christian schools, yes, you can still pray to the authentic Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, but as far as race and all of these other issues, they're no better than the public schools.
Oh, yes, but however, I see, I travel to downtown L.A. every day for work, and I see gentrification on my way downtown, and I see areas that were predominantly Hispanic.
Now white families are moving in, and they're sending their kids to the public schools.
And I can see, I drive right past elementary school, and I can see the playground, and I can see the kids playing, and see where there were no white kids, and now there are more kids coming in.
And I can see now that the white kids, they mingle with them, they stay with their group, and they're having the camaraderie there.
So I think even in a predominantly non-white school system, if your parents provide you with the foundation, the kids will be okay even in that public school.
Okay, fair enough.
And this was certainly a topic we hadn't planned to get into, but it's an interesting one and obviously a provocative one nevertheless.
Mrs. Johnson.
I just have to say, it's difficult.
And we women, whoever's staying home with the kids, we really, this is our war.
We have to teach our kids.
And it's difficult because sometimes their best friends become, you know, are the Hispanics.
I mean, they do segregate, but often they mix.
And then, you know, these non-whites will ask your daughters out and they're good friends at school.
It's a very tough road to hoe, but it's our sacrifice.
And it can be done, and it's worth it.
It's worth the heartache and just having your kids mad at you sometimes, but that's being a parent and teaching them what's true.
So it's tricky.
And I'm sure y'all have certainly leveled with them on the realities of race.
And we even mentioned scripture on the mixing and all of that just a moment ago.
Yeah, but see, it's not just the schools.
When we go to church, the churches also promote interracial dating.
Yeah, that's a very good point.
I'm glad you brought that up.
That's right.
So it doesn't matter what they do outside the home so much as what you teach them inside the home.
That is a good point.
If you go to any, even in the, and we talk about this all the time on this show, even in the deep south, you go to a Southern Baptist church, which is truly probably the most, if not one of the most, conservative denominations left.
And even it is so cucked on race.
I mean, you'd be better off going to the blackest public school.
It couldn't be any worse than what they're trying to encourage your families to do.