June 18, 2016 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Joining us this hour, Nathaniel Strickland, the owner and chief editor of FaithandHeritage.com, one of my absolute favorite sites in the world.
Nathaniel received his Bachelor of Science in Political Science with a minor in economics and his MBA from Clemson University.
Nathaniel also has ancestors who fought with the Patriots in the American Revolution, with the Texans at the Alamo, and with the Confederacy in the war for southern independence.
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Our guest, Nathaniel Strickland.
Nathaniel, how are you, brother?
Doing well.
Thanks for having me.
Thanks for coming on tonight.
And tonight, especially, I wish it were under better circumstances, but indeed your topic this evening is the incredible cowardice that was put on display in St. Louis a few days ago by the Southern Baptist Convention, a group who dishonored their fathers and mothers in a most embarrassing and reprehensible way.
Break down what happened, Nathaniel.
Well, the Southern Baptist Convention had their annual meeting earlier this week, and they passed 12 resolutions.
And resolution number seven basically relegated any display of the Confederate flag among their membership to that of a grave marker, basically, and roundly condemned any political use of it or any use that could be viewed as unsensitive to anyone else.
And there are a whole myriad of problems with this, but of course they're the one that always happens in instance like this, of breaking the fifth and ninth commandment and accusing their forefathers of imaginary sins regarding racism and all those other things.
And then in the resolution itself, the rationale, main rationale given for it was that it was hurting their ministry with minorities, which is kind of silly and internally contradictory.
And then I believe the next paragraph down, they talked about how great it was that 50% of their new congregations were minority congregations.
Now that's made up now like 20% of their church.
So it seemed kind of silly to say that it was hurting it on one hand, and then on the other hand, it was great that they're having so many new minority congregations.
You know, it's absolutely sickening.
My question would be, and you put this out on your Twitter feed, which is among my daily reads, ladies and gentlemen.
If you go to faithandheritage.com, you can follow Nathaniel on Twitter.
But Modern Baptists, you wrote, are 1-100th the Christians their Confederate forefathers were and are unqualified to pass any faux judgments on them.
This is what's so incredible, Nathaniel.
Was pride in your Southern heritage a sin 50 years ago, 10 years ago, five years ago?
How was it that just within the last year when it became politically convenient for these people to pass this resolution, was it found somewhere in the Bible that having a Confederate flag and being proud of your ancestry who fought to stave off tyranny and oppression was some sort of a, as you put it, pretend sin?
Yeah, in that to Twitter, I'm specifically referring to the leadership of the Southern Baptist Convention.
Of course, many of the rank and file are as out as we are.
But, you know, with Twitter, you only have 140 characters, so you can't add all the nuance what you want sometimes.
But, you know, yeah, you're right.
It's ridiculous that they're discovering all these new sins.
And they're being slothy and lazy about it.
And that's what's even worse about it is that if you go back into the early 1800s and read some of the great debates that northern and southern Christians were having about the issues of their time, the issues about slavery, which were, to them, even more of a touchy subject than they are to us today, they were to great lengths to specifically define their terms, to base everything in scripture, to argue at length.
And, you know, we get here and we get this tiny little resolution that just makes that assumes the, that assumes the question and is really just slothy and lazy about how they throw around accusations of sin.
Well, I would remind people at this time, and we're going to spend the entire hour unpacking this story, but the Confederate flag itself is a Christian flag.
And in fact, the Confederate states' motto, Deo Vendis, literally means, when translated from Latin, God is our vindicator.
So in their flag and in their official state motto, the Confederacy illustrated the sovereignty and righteousness of God.
They thought that the founding fathers made a mistake from drinking too much of the Enlightenment Kool-Aid.
But the St. Andrew's Cross is also known as the Greek letter key and has historically been used to represent Jesus Christ.
When people write Mary Xmas, just to give you an illustration, that X is the Greek letter key and has historically been used for Christ.
Moreover, its importance was understood by educated and uneducated people alike.
When an uneducated man, one who could not write, needed to sign his name, of course, they wrote an X. Why?
Because he's taking an oath under God.
So we're recognizing the sovereignty of God, the providence of God.
You're pledging your faith.
The Confederate flag is indeed a Christian flag because it is the cross of St. Andrew, who was a Christian martyr.
And the letter X has always been used to represent Christ.
In fact, many Christian martyrs were crucified on X-shaped crosses.
And to attack the flag, Nathaniel, is to deny the sovereignty, the majesty, and the might of Lord Jesus Christ and his divine role in Southern history, culture, and life.
You know, John Weaver, Pastor Weaver, mentions many of these things.
But when you combine the current attacks against biblical and traditional marriage, the attacks against all things Confederate, the attacks against all things Christian, the attacks against all things constitutional, what we're witnessing here, I think, is the heightened example of why the Confederate battle flag was created to begin with.
All of these acts of usurpation by the federal government and our media that we're witnessing today and have been witnessing for much of the 20th century is the result of Lincoln's successful war against the South.
Truly, we are living in Lincoln's America, not the America of George Washington and Thomas Jefferson.
That America died at Appomattox Courthouse in 1865.
So instead of lowering the Confederate flag and dishonoring the mothers and fathers of these people at that meeting in St. Louis, we should be raising it.
I'm sure you would agree, Nathaniel.
I completely agree.
And you're definitely right that this is a part of a series of an attack.
It isn't going to stop here.
In resolution number seven, they cite two previous resolutions as the foundation for it, a resolution in 2004, 2015.
And, you know, they have a lot farther to go to, you know, cleanse themselves of the sins of being related to the Confederacy.
You know, the Southern Baptist Convention was formed in a split in 1845 on the basis that the Northern Baptist churches were refusing to appoint slave owners as foreign missionaries.
Nathaniel, hold up right there because I want to get into that.
That's also something that you've made mention of on Twitter.
I want to get into that and your article, which was just published to faithandheritage.com a couple of hours ago.
We're going to get into that and much, much more.
We're just beginning with Nathaniel Strickland, who will be our guest for the entire second hour tonight.
So stay tuned, folks.
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Welcome back, everybody.
James Edwards and Nathaniel Strickland, editor of FaithandHeritage.com, one of my very favorite websites.
And I feel a great deal of comfort with non-believers who are with us on political issues.
And I feel some degree of comfort with Christians who are not so much on our issues.
But it is great when faith in the Lord Jesus Christ can be reconciled with our heartfelt political concerns.
And when I'm in the company of men like Nathaniel Strickland, I feel absolutely totally at home.
And regular listeners of this radio program will know this.
I have grown up.
I have spent my whole life every Sunday in the pews of Southern Baptist churches.
So when we criticize the Southern Baptist Church in this hour, ladies and gentlemen, know that it's coming from a position of authority, at least in my case.
And I'll tell you that I love these people, not these leaders, not these cucks, these sellouts.
They are absolutely reprehensible.
They should be driven from the pulpits, no questions asked.
And that's the very least that should happen from them is that they should lose their positions.
But the people who actually go to these churches, and of course, you should know that this is a non-binding resolution.
It's virtue signaling, as Nathaniel has written in his piece.
It is preening self-righteousness.
It is disgusting.
But each Southern Baptist congregation is autonomous.
This isn't the Catholic church.
Each Southern Baptist church is autonomous.
And of course, each Southern Baptist member is free to think for himself.
And I know any number of Southern Baptists who greet this horrible resolution with the contempt that it deserves.
But I will tell you this, though.
Growing up in the Southern Baptist Church was one of the things that laid my foundation.
And if it hadn't been for my parents taking me to church every week, my life would have turned out quite differently.
And I certainly would have never made it to the political cesspool.
So much of who I am as a political advocate comes from the incredible influence that Christianity has played in my heart and in my work.
And when we went to church on Sundays, we was just a small congregation.
It ran about 100 people on Sunday mornings.
My pastor was an incredible guy from Pascagoula, Mississippi.
You didn't have this kind of madness.
And as Nathaniel has written on Twitter, these modern churchians, as he calls them, will side with Christ haters over historical Christianity every single time.
Also, racial unity means telling white Southern Christians to take their ethnic symbols and get out.
Certainly they're not telling other ethnic groups that they can't be proud of who they are.
No, this is only targeted at their own base.
And as you were mentioning before the break, Nathaniel, in 1845, when the Southern Baptist Convention was formed, when they split from the Northerners, those people made Christian arguments to defend their positions.
You've read them.
And what came out of St. Louis at the Southern Baptist Convention 2016, this resolution, as you call it, is just social justice warrior dung.
Elaborate.
Well, yeah, like we were saying before the break, this isn't the end of it.
The leftist revolution never sleeps.
The very name Southern Baptist Convention is tainted by the evil of our ancestors.
The decision to split with the Northern Baptist Church in 1845 was made on the basis that the Northerners were refusing to appoint slave owners as missionaries.
So you got to get rid of the name Southern Baptist.
I don't know what you call it, maybe just American Baptist, but even American Baptist.
I mean, I'm sure there are people around the world who find the word American or the word United States as equally offensive and as barriers to ministry.
You know, I'm sure if you were trying to evangelize some Muslim groups, they would find the U.S. flag as offensive as some people find the Confederate flag.
So why not a resolution that's saying you can't display the U.S. flag because it might be a barrier to evangelism?
You know, the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky is named Boyce and is named after James Boyce, who is a chaplain in the Confederate Army and one of the founders of the Southern Baptist Convention.
So, you know, if you're going to erase all these things, you're going to have to change the name of the Southern Baptist Seminary and get rid of that name too.
That's tainted.
And then, as you were saying, you know, this is only applied to white people.
There's a great injustice, I think, here in intentionally alienating one group of people and making your evangelistic efforts toward them harder than in trying to make, you know, symbolic gestures to another group.
You know, I don't know how sometimes people like this will lie, but they say they've had issues evangelizing blacks because of the history with the Confederate flag.
I don't really believe that to a large degree, but they say that.
But now you can have problems evangelizing to whites because, you know, imagine you're trying to evangelize just some blue-collar working class guy.
They're like, oh, yeah, you're that church that hates, you know, my flag.
And so it's really counterproductive and, I think, unfair in a lot of regards.
Well, that's the least you could say, Nathaniel.
In fact, one of your contributors said it best with regard to what you're making mention of.
This was an article written about Russell Moore.
We'll talk about Russell Moore as this hour continues.
He is the head of the so-called Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics Committee.
And this is the most surely when the textbook definition of cuck servative is printed, this guy's picture will be next to it.
He is just a joke.
I don't know if he considers himself to be a man, but it would be amazing if he did.
But one of your contributors, Nathaniel, at faithandheritage.com, wrote this.
With regard to the evangelical churches, they're dying because they alienate men who are the natural spiritual leaders of families.
The church today, with its cucking on race, feminism, and immigration, demands that the saving grace of Jesus Christ comes attached at the hip with a sick suicide cult of Nambi-Fambi feminized leaders like Russell Moore.
Does this even qualify as gospel when any sane person must reject the suicidal package offered by the modern church?
R.L. Dabney said as much when he was examining the displays of Finney.
His point being that any reasonable person would reject such a ridiculous practice of religion out of hand, meaning that the very best people would be alienated from Christianity when applied in this manner.
We can only hope that there is some measure of extraordinary grace at work today for the reasonable unbeliever, the disproportionately non-religious, conservative white who supports Trump, cannot but look at the church and gag.
I have come to the conclusion, your contributor writes, Nathaniel, that just as the political establishment must be destroyed by an outsider like Trump, so too must the Christian religious establishment.
So we await the charismatic and forceful advocate of traditional Christianity who will drive the cult, the cucks, out of the pulpits.
Is there much you can add to that?
Yeah, and the Southern Baptist Convention is actually bleeding membership over the past decade.
I wonder why.
I wonder why.
Their membership total actually peaked in 2006 at a little over 16 million.
And over the past decade, they've bled about a million down to just over 15 million.
And like I said in the resolution, they mentioned over half their new churches are non-white.
So the amount of white membership they've bled is a lot greater than just that 1 million.
And so, yeah, they're making overtures to the people they aren't losing, basically.
Well, they're spending their time condemning our ancestors, as you wrote, for fake sins.
And the new president of the Southern Baptist Convention is a guy from right here in Memphis.
He's the pastor of Bellevue Baptist Church in Memphis.
And the best thing I can say about Steve Gaines is that he's a cuck.
He's just one of these guys.
This is a sickness, this pathological altruism, as Dr. Kevin McDonald calls it, that has infected our people.
If they're not sellouts, which they very well may be, they very well may be, as Russell Moore is, just taking a check to do Satan's bidding in the form of George Soros.
But at the very least, they crave social acceptance from the media, from their peers, from the non-Christian, anti-Christian establishment.
They crave the acceptance of those people so much that they would condemn their own congregations.
That's what happened.
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Nathaniel Strickland, our guest this hour, has appeared on the Political Cesspool a handful of times over the years, not nearly as much as he probably should have.
And we're going to work to correct that going forward because, as I said, I'm just such an admirer of his work and of the work of faithandheritage.com.
But some of you who were in attendance at the Political Cesspool's 10-year anniversary celebration in October of 2014 will remember Nathaniel as one of our speakers at that event.
He gave a talk entitled Christianity and Race.
If you've never watched that enlightening presentation, then I highly encourage you to do so.
It's available on YouTube.
We've linked to it several times over the last couple of years on our website.
But in his talk, Nathaniel does a fantastic job explaining with facts how modern American so-called Christianity stands in direct conflict with scripture itself and historical Christianity.
As I mentioned, being born and raised in a Southern Baptist household, my Christian heritage is something that makes me very proud and it's something that I take an active interest in defending.
Now, I realize that not all the listeners of this program share my faith, and I appreciate that, and I'm still most grateful for your support of our work on other issues.
Christian or not, we're all kin and we must hang together.
But I say that the fellowship shared with men like Nathaniel is especially unique.
So what we're going to do is on Tuesday, we're going to repost an article that Nathaniel published tonight at faithandheritage.com entitled The Southern Baptist Convention Attempts to Create Another Hitler.
We're going to post that provocative piece on Tuesday at our website, thepoliticalspool.org.
And at the bottom of that, I'll include a link to Nathaniel's video presentation at our event in the fall of 2014.
But Nathaniel, Your title and your piece break down the thesis of it.
It's fresh and hot off the press at faithandheritage.com tonight.
Oh, yeah.
And of course, it's meant to be provocative, but it's also, I think, true.
You know, we hear a lot today, especially with the Trump candidacy, that, you know, this person or that person is literally the next Hitler, that this ideology or that audioology is going to create another Hitler.
And I think that if you're going to make that claim, you have to examine the causes for the creation of the original Hitler.
And, you know, they aren't a secret by any means.
If you read Mein Kampf, Hitler is very specific about his grievances.
And interestingly enough, one of the grievances he lays out was that he was an Austrian German.
And Austria started off as a purely German state.
And as it expanded eastward into Hungarian and Slavic lands, the Austrian Germans eventually became a minority.
And the Habsburgs, originally a German dynasty, decided that they were going to convert the core concept of the Austrian state from an extension of basic German civilization into a Catholic Slavic state.
And as part of the campaign, they actually harnessed the Catholic Church.
Most Austrian Germans are Catholics.
They harnessed the power of the Catholic Church and actually tried launched to a Slavicization program of the Catholic Church.
And one of Hitler's grievances was that they would bring in Slavic pastors to German congregations and the Slavic pastors would immediately put Slavic national interest over German national interest.
And that the German clergy were incapable of even recognizing what was going on, much less launched offense of it.
So, you know, if we don't want to create another Hitler, and I don't, I've laid out my problem, my issues with Nazism on several occasions.
If we don't want to create another Hitler, then we don't need to repeat the situations that led to the original one.
And one of those was bringing in racial minorities and trying to weaponize Christianity against the core ethnic group and the benefit of the minority groups.
And that's exactly what the Southern Baptist Convention is striving to do here.
Because it's not just the Confederate flag.
Two other things happened at the annual convention meeting this year that formed kind of a rather sinister, in my opinion, program.
I mentioned Resolution No. 7, which basically relegates the display of the Confederate flag to a grave marker.
But resolution number 12 basically calls for the opening of the United States to mass third world immigration via refugee programs.
It's just outrageous.
And then another thing that's come to light recently is that the Southern Baptist Convention is using their funds to help build mosques in America.
Let's pause right there for Nathaniel.
I apologize, but let's pause right there for emphasis.
The Southern Baptist Convention is using the tithe money generated by their congregants to build mosques, not to convert Muslims to Christianity, but to build mosques.
Now you ask yourself, if people like Russell Moore and Steve Gaines and their like had been around at the time of Charles Martel, there wouldn't even be a Christianity to defend.
Europe would have been wiped off the face of the map by Islam and the Muslim invasion.
Christianity would have been eradicated.
And thank God we had Christian soldiers like Charles Martel and Jan Sobieski and Charlemagne back when it counted in our historical context to defend the faith and to defend the folk because if we had had people like this, then it would have all been over.
We wouldn't even be here.
Yeah, it's ridiculous when you compare modern Christianity to historical Christianity.
So the three points that we have here is we have white American Christians who are being replaced by mass immigration by refugee programs.
You're taking the money from these people and you're using it to fund this dispossession with mosques and other things.
And then the white Christians are not allowed to use any political symbols that could be rallying points, like the Confederate flag against the first two points.
And so I think these three really form a coherent anti-white program being promoted by the Southern Baptist Church.
And I don't think I'm not sure they understand how dangerous that is.
And that's why I laid out the historical parallels between modern America and Austria-Hungary.
And this is it.
This is the Southern Baptist Church, which, believe it or not, and I've been a member of Southern Baptist churches since I was born.
I was born into this church.
This is probably the most conservative congregation left.
And look at how bad they are.
So think of how bad the other ones must be.
So at the head table, that is.
Now, certainly there are individual congregations that are quite good and individual members who are quite stellar.
But for God's sake, what is happening in the churches?
And this is what we lament here.
The Southern Baptist Convention attempts to create another Hitler is the title of Nathaniel Strickland's incredible piece at faithandheritage.com tonight.
We'll repost it on Tuesday at thepolitical cesspool.org and will include a link to Nathaniel's speech given at our 10-year anniversary event in 2014.
But as Nathaniel writes, this week marked the annual meeting of the Southern Baptist Convention by far America's single largest Protestant denomination.
At the meeting, the SBC, as we've been discussing, passed Resolution 7 condemning the display of the Confederate battle flag.
This particularly caused outrage among people, particularly white southerners like Nathaniel, who view the Confederate flag as part of our ethnic identity.
If the church had thrown its weight behind someone like Pat Buchanan and supported legitimate white interests in the 1990s, then without question, it would be people who not only held the church in high regard and viewed Christianity as absolutely essential, but were themselves devout Christians who would be rising to the cream of the crop.
But, however, in recent years, after 20 years of the church's knife in white people's back, a good number of nationalists now view the church with apathy, if not outright contempt.
And while still viewing Christianity as an important cultural institution and the Christian moral standards is largely needing to be maintained, they lack personal faith in it themselves.
This is, of course, men like Donald Trump.
If the American church, Nathaniel writes, is successful in helping to defeat Trump or even just continues to openly oppose his championing of white interests, then the next generation of white leaders may very well be openly antagonistic, not only to the church, but to Christianity as a concept.
We at Faith and Heritage, Nathaniel concludes, will continue to fight for the position that Christianity is not inherently anti-white and that nationalism is not inherently anti-Christian.
But this is no easy task when the institutional American church takes every opportunity to try to prove us wrong.
I don't think it's too much to ask for an American church denomination that talks about white America's national interests as being legitimate in the same manner that the SBC itself talks about Israeli Jews' national interests as being legitimate in their own Resolution 5.
This is what we're talking about with Nathaniel Strickman and we'll continue on right after this.
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We're talking about what took place at the Southern Baptist Convention's 2016 gathering in St. Louis just a few days ago.
Nathaniel, you talk about how the Southern Baptist Convention and Protestant denominations in general should stop weaponizing Christianity against white people because it certainly seems as though the only people who are criticized for having some sort of an ethnic identity are whites.
You certainly don't see black Christians having this same hand-wringing in their congregations, do you?
No.
And I wanted to bring up a point that you alluded to right at the end of the last segment that you mentioned my, you quoted my mention of resolution number five.
And that's kind of a really interesting point to make is that at the same time that the Southern Baptist Convention passed a resolution condemning white people for their heritage, they passed another resolution, Resolution 5, championing the legitimate national interest of Israeli Jews.
And, you know, there's some people in our movement who are really, really rapidly anti-Israel, and I'm not one of them.
I, of course, have problems with Jewish hypocrisy, but Israel as a nation state, I really don't have that big a deal with.
You know, they have a border wall.
Great, good for them.
They have good immigration policies.
Great, good for them.
You know, they can intelligently discriminate.
Good for them.
They put their own economic and cultural interest first.
Good, great for them.
And the Southern Baptist Convention specifically praised them for this.
And they talked about their ethnic, and they actually used the word ethnic.
They talked about their ethnic and cultural and economic interests and how it was good for the Israelis to have these things.
And I think it's great that they do, and they should.
We need to be more like them, domestically speaking.
I don't think it's too much to ask for the American church to take the same view of white Americans that they do Israeli Jews.
So specifically, you know, especially because, you know, we're brothers in Christ.
We're sitting in their pews on Sunday morning.
And why can't we get at least equal treatment to a foreign pagan nation?
Well, you said it all.
I mean, this is the Southern Baptist Convention clamoring for the acceptance of an anti-Christian nation and anti-Christian people, by and large.
But yet their own people are the ones that they're actively hostile against.
And let me tell you, I don't mind saying this now.
I haven't made mention of this before on the air, but Russell Moore, who is the head of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics Committee, and he's basically their spokesperson in the media.
He's a cuck, and he writes these, as you put it, Nathaniel, estrogen-laced articles for the Washington Post and the New York Times, those bastions of pro-Christian thought, the Washington Post and the New York Times, bashing any Christian, bashing any Christian that would vote for Donald Trump.
This is what you're getting out of your own.
How did people like that gravitate to positions of leadership in an organization like the Southern Baptist Church?
It's the same like Nikki Haley and Tim Scott and Lindsey Graham.
How could sociopaths like that and like Russell Moore gravitate to the head of the table in a state as great as South Carolina and as a denomination as once great as the Southern Baptist Convention?
I just don't understand it.
Yeah, and Jesus said, you know, if the world hates me, we should expect it to hate you.
So I'm automatically suspicious of anyone the New York Times is willing to publish.
Well, and he also, of course, on Twitter talks about his friend Bill Crystal, and he's just preening for the acceptance of these societal overlords who hate everything that Christianity stands for and hate Christians.
And Russell Moore called me a white supremacist.
Now, this is, anybody who knows me knows what I am.
I'm a family man.
I've attended a Southern Baptist church my whole life.
This is the head of the denomination calling me a white supremacist on his own Twitter account.
Now, what about judgment there?
I mean, is that in the image of Christ that to call one of your faithful a slur and a derogative like that?
It's just pathetic.
It's the nicest thing I can say on the radio.
Yeah, you mentioned earlier, you made an allusion to Moore being funded by Soros.
And, you know, this isn't an exaggeration.
Moore is a member of an evangelical immigration group that is literally on George Resources payroll.
Moore is getting money directly from the very, very evil man, George Soros.
And I don't think it's a big jump to say that perhaps the paychecks he's receiving is influencing the way he's conducting policy.
The refugee program in the United States is big business.
I couldn't find any recent numbers in a quick Google search.
I'm sure they're out there.
But a few years ago, religious organizations in America were receiving over $2 billion a year to house and settle these refugees from third world countries.
And I wonder how many of the Baptist leadership, Southern Baptist leadership who voted for Resolution 12 encouraging more refugee immigration to the United States are going to be financially rewarded through these refugee programs for their votes.
Well, that's a very good question, and we won't know, but we know that some of them are.
As A.W. Tozer once put it, Nathaniel, and this is a direct quote, and tell me how accurate and prescient this is.
Religion today is not transforming people.
Rather, it is being transformed by the people.
It is not raising the moral level of society.
It is descending to society's own level and congratulating itself that it has scored a victory because society is smilingly accepting its surrender.
If that doesn't describe the state of establishment Christianity in the United States, nothing does.
It especially describes people like Russell Moore.
I completely agree.
Well, here's the thing, though.
We have certainly been lamenting the state of establishment religion for the majority of the hour.
However, we need to come full circle.
And I know, Nathaniel, like yours truly, you are a family man with a young family at home.
I may ask you if you're willing and available to stay just one more segment after the top of the next hour, because I want to bring this to a more positive conclusion.
There's nothing good that came out of the Southern Baptist Convention's most recent conference.
There's no doubt about that.
However, the proper application of Christianity is absolutely essential for our people going forward.
Of that, I am convinced there is no doubt.
If we trade our current society for, let's just say we got this fantasy of a white ethno-state, but it was openly antagonistic and anti-Christian, then you're trading one flawed society for another, I feel.
Harry Seabrook, who is a Christian advocate, wrote this.
He too, like you, Nathaniel, was at our 10-year anniversary event in Memphis back in the fall of 2014.
He wrote, James Edwards and his co-hosts have balanced issues of race, ethno-nationalism, history, politics, and culture with the Christian faith, which makes all the world come into focus.
There is no conservatism without order, no order without structure, and no structure unless flesh and spirit are viewed as complementary of the human soul.
Today, we hear too many preachers say that faith is all that matters.
Too many nationalists say that race is all that matters.
But the vast majority of young people today have been trained to believe that neither matters.
What we're doing here and what you're doing with faith and heritage, Nathaniel, is we are the vanguard of those who seek to restore balance.
And in doing so, Harry Seabrook writes, we're in lockstep with our noble forefathers who gave us all that we have as our inheritance.
Everyone's searching for identity.
To us, identity means distinction.
To the enemy, identity means uniformity.
The difference between these two poles is the difference between building civilization and destroying it.
How important is it, Nathaniel, in your own words, that whatever happens with the pro-white cause and movement, that Christianity be at its center?
What was that?
That last bit.
I was just saying, with whatever comes of the pro-white movement going forward, how important is it, in your own words, that Christianity, the proper application of Christianity, be at its center?
This is supremely important.
You know, just to begin with, you know, God is not going to bless an endeavor that doesn't put him first.
And, you know, if we want success, we're going to have to obey the first commandment, which is you shall have no other gods before me.
And that includes, you know, racial idolatry.
You know, the Nazi church did not follow this.
They put race first.
And, you know, by that, you know, decades later, Germany was a burning husk.
And if we want the future America to build, or whatever portions of it whites inherit, to be in any way recognizable to the Western civilization we all know and love, then it needs to be built on the foundation of Christ.
I agree.
I mean, obviously, I agree before even asking the question, and any regular listener of this show knows that I will agree.
But you look back on the last 2,000 years of European civilization, all of those great advancements came underneath the banner of Christ, those great victories that we sustained at Vienna and Tours under the banner of the cross.
It was the cross that brought the tribes together.
It was the cross that brought Europe together.
And all of the blessings that we've received, we have received through the Christian faith.
And as America and the West devolves into a post-Christian society, the results have been predictable, Nathaniel.
Our standard of living have fallen.
Everything good about our culture is deteriorating.
And I think that is directly coincided with our departure from the faith of our fathers.
We've got to take a break.
If you would stay with us just one more segment, I would appreciate it.
But you can let our producer know if you have the time.
And for the rest of you folks, we'll be back right after this.