June 27, 2015 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Welcome back to tonight's live broadcast, ladies and gentlemen, the Political Cesspool Radio Program, an award-winning talk radio show here in Memphis, Tennessee.
It's Saturday evening, June 27th.
I'm your host, James Edwards.
Keith Alexander is still with me.
I want to thank the great Jared Taylor and Sean Bergen for their contributions to tonight's program, as well as Scoop Stanton.
Now is the time, as I said earlier, for the courageous to be separated from the cowardly.
We do not run when the shooting starts.
Rather, we ride to the sound of the guns.
We will not back down.
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And as the great Confederate General Robert E. Lee once said, duty is the most sublime word in our language.
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Ladies and gentlemen, this voice, our program is needed now more than ever before in light of the events of the last week, two weeks, three weeks with the Supreme Court, the way the Obama administration and the media has been exploiting the deaths in Charleston to advance their anti-white, anti-Christian political agenda.
I'll tell you the truth.
I have faults.
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I will never sell you out.
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And remember, the last half of the show tonight, the last hour and a half, we're going to be talking about the Confederate flag and why we defend it and love it so much.
We've been talking about Charleston now for four hours, three hours last week, the first hour tonight.
We're going to break for a minute and chase a completely different rabbit before recircling and talking about the honorable flag of the South.
Keith, go.
Well, first of all, let me say, as James said, now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.
The political cesspool is the one lonely outpost of sanity in the entire news media now when it comes to issues like the Charleston shooting.
We need your support.
Now, this is also an opportunity.
We're going to change shift gears for a moment.
F. Roger Devlin is a frequent guest on our show.
He is a very scholarly and top-notch commentator on a whole variety of issues.
He writes for the Occidental Observer, The Occidental Quarterly.
He has posted articles on a website called The Last Ditch.
And he has gained a considerable amount of acclaim and notoriety in what is called loosely the manosphere.
In other words, male issues, male, female issues taken from a modern perspective.
He has finally put all of his writings on this subject together in a book.
We've been waiting for this book for years now, and it has finally come down the pike.
Roger, tell us all about this new book that you have published.
That's right, Keith.
I think I've promised it on your show before, like two years ago.
I was saying it would come out within six months or something like that.
But the publishing world is full of delays, but now it is available for you to order.
It contains seven essays with a new preface and a new introduction, all on the subject of men-women issues.
It's called Sexual Utopia in Power, The Feminist Revolt Against Civilization, and it's published by Countercurrents Publishing in San Francisco.
Tell us about the picture on the front cover.
That's very interesting.
Tell me.
I was very pleased with this picture.
I didn't choose it myself, but I like it.
It's Judith with the head of whole affair names.
So get your Apocrypha out if you want to read about Judith or a Catholic Bible.
It's a wonderful story, and it's a good emblem for my work here.
What's unusual?
I describe my book as an unorthodox defense of orthodoxy.
Because in effect, what I'm arguing for is a return to Christian marriage.
But I don't argue by any appeal to tradition or religion.
I argue from observation and from science and reasoning.
And some of the things that I argue will be very surprising to people who've grown up on conservative journalism.
For example, there is not more sex available to men since the sexual revolution than there was before it.
That women are not naturally monogamous.
That the sex seen on college campuses and in the larger society today is not promiscuous.
It's not a free-for-all.
It follows a rather clear pattern, and I explain what that is.
And I also argue that our problems cannot be solved by men entirely.
A lot of conservative writers speak as if if men would only stop and marry the women, that the problems would go away, which is a way of reading from women.
Yes.
Right.
I was going to say, basically, the message that I got from reading it is that women, contrary to popular belief, are carnal creatures just like men.
Men own up to their carnality.
Women typically haven't.
And there is a whole, you know, olive culture supports them in thinking that they are superior, better, more moral, purer people than the men.
Men will tell you that, you know, if they are not constrained by religion or ethics, we're little hoe bags, right?
Yeah.
Women are carnal also.
Their carnality is different.
Yes.
Based on what you've written, let me sum it up this way.
Men are naturally polygamous.
Women aren't naturally polygamous.
They're naturally hypergamous.
Explain that to our audience.
Exactly.
Well, we all know what polygamy is.
Hypergamy is the desire to mate up.
It's to mate only with the most attractive man, which in a woman's term means the highest status man usually or a man with a large amount of resources, which is not the same thing as monogamy.
What you get When monogamy, socially enforced monogamy breaks down is women throwing themselves at a few men at the top of the heap, the most attractive men.
And so these men are enabled to become very promiscuous.
But there isn't more sex available to men as a whole.
In fact, to men, average men, there's actually less.
It's harder to get a woman than under the system of monogamy.
Monogamy is essentially a compromise between the man's tendency to polygamy and the woman's tendency to hypergamy.
Right.
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And now back to tonight's show.
Ladies and gentlemen, James Edwards, Keith Alexander, here.
Roger Devlin, our guest this hour.
He is on to promote his newest book, Sexual Utopia in Power.
You can get it on Amazon.com in addition to other places as well.
And Countercurrents is another place.
And we'll let Roger give all that information out.
I just want to remind the audience, before I toss it back to Keith and Roger, that coming up after this segment, we're going to transition into our defense of the Confederate flag.
And it's going to rival the best of the best of anything we have ever done during our Confederate History Month celebrations each year, year after year.
Tonight, we are passionate.
It will be unbridled, but well-reasoned.
And so if you tuned in tonight to hear our defense of the Confederate flag in response to the assault it is enduring, it's coming up.
Stay tuned.
Keith, to you and Roger.
Okay, Roger, getting back to sexual utopian power, that's the signature essay, the longest one, really your masterwork on the subject.
Basically, your message is that men and women are both carnal.
Both have been unmoored from ethics by leftist liberal developments like the sexual revolution, like feminism.
And men are naturally polygamous.
Women, however, are not naturally monogamous, at least in any accepted Christian or religious way.
They are naturally hypergamous.
Correct.
And that's, we're both, both men and women, are just responding to the way God made us or the way that nature governs our lives.
Explain that to us, please.
Yes, well, women are responsible for two-thirds of divorces.
And in fact, it may be rather higher than two-thirds, most often in the fourth year of marriage.
And you can see how women tend to behave by looking at the extreme cases of movie stars like Liz Taylor and Jaja Gabor, who go through eight men in their lives.
That's an extreme case, but those are women who are very unconstrained because they're so wealthy.
You see, I remember in the 50s, Roger, that all after-dinner speakers in the 50s always had a built-in punchline that they used.
They said they would start off their speech by saying, as Elizabeth Taylor told her last husband, I won't keep you long.
Yes, right, right, right.
So anyway, the book has seven essays published all over the last several years.
And if you don't want to get it on Amazon, I understand they're pulling their Confederate flag merchandise now.
You can get it from Barnes ⁇ Noble or directly from Countercurrents.
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This is a book that every man ought to have.
In fact, I may even take a copy of this to the local divorce lawyer firm that specializes in representing men.
It's called Cordell and Cordell.
I think they're nationwide.
What I was pointing out about the way nature made us is gametes.
Tell our audience about gametes and how they kind of predetermine male and female carnality.
Well, gametes are just a biologist's term for the sex cells, sperm and egg.
And the way biologists actually define male and female is by gamete production.
If you find a strange creature at the bottom of the sea and you want to know whether it's male or female, you look at which kind produces the most gametes, the most sex cells, and that is said to be the male.
Men produce millions of sperm, produce it constantly.
A woman produces 400 eggs in the course of her entire life.
Between puberty and menopause.
Right, right.
And a man does that in about an hour or half an hour or something.
Well, more than that, I think what I read, if I recall right, in your book is that men create 12 million sperm cells per hour and recycle the entire bunch every three days.
So we're vastly oversupplied with something that women have a very limited supply of.
Correct.
That's why women are seeking to mate with the best and men are making a play for everything in skirts, right?
Correct, correct.
Women are the supply and men constitute the demand when it comes to sex.
And this is why, traditionally, monogamy was guarded especially by inculcating it, inculcating sexual self-control in young women, especially.
It made sense because when you go after something, you go after the supply side, not the demand side.
And women, you know, the feminists complain about this being a double standard, but it's really just common sense.
And if you want to restore monogamy, you also have to look especially at the behavior of women rather than that of men.
This is something that a lot of conservatives don't want to admit because they think it makes that they don't want to make women look bad.
They don't want to criticize women, but our ancestors— And knuckleheads like Bill McCartney, who is the progenitor of this Promise Keepers program that was so popular about 10 years ago.
Yes.
basically took the position that we have to talk with men and men exclusively about strengthening the marriage.
Like women are not a source of problem at all.
Right, yeah.
When actually it's the women's behavior that's changed more than the men due to the rise of feminism and the rise of the sexual revolution.
That's correct.
Two left-wing projects.
And if you want to read about that, that's what my book's for.
Well, the book is excellent.
Tell us about these, I think he said seven different essays are in here.
Yes, seven.
Of course, Granddaddy is sexual utopian power, but tell us about the rest of them.
A couple of them appeared in Occidental Quarterly.
A couple of them are actually book reviews of important works like Steve Baskerville.
I think he's been a guest on the cesspool talking about the divorce regime.
I talk about the economic side of marriage.
I talk about, I have one chapter on Africa on how feminism leads to a mating pattern that resembles what's found in West Africa.
And I have an essay on physicisms.
And I'd also like to mention to any listeners who are in the Northeast Corridor, I'm going to be making some appearances, some talks and book signings.
If you're anywhere in the New York or Philadelphia or Washington, D.C. area and you're interested in attending, contact Countercurrents.
Contact the editor at Countercurrents.
The events are going to be taking place in July and August.
I'd be very interested in meeting any Cesspool listeners out there.
Well, let me tell you, if you want cutting-edge, fresh, incisive, intelligent commentary on male-female relations in the 21st century, Roger Devlin is your go-to guy.
I can tell you that.
Roger, it's always great to have you on the show.
And we have Home Economics is one of your big essays.
Another is The Feminine Sexual Counterrevolution and Its Limits.
And then Rotating Polyandry and its Enforcers.
That's the one with the Baskerville Park.
And the question of Back to Africa, the question of female masochism.
So the question is, I think, Roger, obviously a lot of stuff in the book that would be of interest to our audience.
Where can people get it?
We want to make sure that that's reiterated one more time.
You can get it at Amazon if you don't mind shopping with them, or you can get it at Barnes & Noble, or just contact CounterCurrents, although they do not have the Kindle version.
They only have the soft cover and hardcover.
But you can.
I would recommend that people not go to Amazon since they are one of the people refusing to sell the Confederate flag.
We're getting into that more information.
I'm totally 100% with you on that issue.
Keep the battle flag flying, guys.
Hey, thank you so much, Roger.
Always a pleasure to have you on.
F. Roger Devlin says named the book is Sexual Utopia and Power.
You heard where you can get it.
We encourage you to do so.
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Well, another one of the many victims this week, ladies and gentlemen, has been that symbol of nobility that for decades has proudly flown over the Capitol grounds in Columbia, South Carolina.
I am, of course, talking about the Confederate flag, my flag, the flag of my family.
That is the flag that I most identify with.
With the 4th of July coming up, I will tell you this.
I love my people, but I will not fly an American flag on the 4th of July at my house.
No, sir.
Now, there was a movie that came out about, oh, goodness, 10-15 years ago.
I can't remember the exact year.
It was the early 2000s.
It was a movie by the name of Gods and Generals, and it was a movie that very objectively portrayed the causes of the Second War for Independence.
And if you'll remember, just a few years ago, Warner Brothers reached out to the political cesspool to help them promote the re-release of Gods and Generals that was being re-released for the 150th anniversary of the onset of the war between the states.
And so, you know, it's really been amazing.
Our story, whenever I get down to write the biography or my memoirs of all of the experiences I had in the political cesspool, working with Warner Brothers, certainly not a friend of our people or a friend of mine, but to work with them to promote the re-release of Gods and Generals will certainly be mentioned.
Well, we're going to play some clips from that movie.
Now, I know it's a movie, and these aren't the real heroes speaking, but they did a lot of great research when making that movie.
And it's a very accurate dramatization.
And so, the first clip I'm going to play you before I get into my defense of the flag and why it's so important to me is an encounter between General Stonewall Jackson, General Thomas J. Stonewall Jackson, and Jeb Stewart on why the war was being fought.
Let's play that clip now.
Let's turn the volume up if we can.
Lieutenant Colonel Stewart reporting for duty, sir.
Colonel Stewart.
That's an impeccable hat, sir.
Thank you, sir.
Tell me, Colonel Stewart.
Use tobacco?
No, sir.
Not in any form.
Neither do I. Find I like it too much.
Sit down.
Understand from your record that you are West Point, Class of 54.
Served since in the cavalry, Fort Clark, Texas.
Operations against Apache, Comanche.
Most impressive, you are Native Virginian.
Fought with Longstreet Mules, sir.
Nasty business.
Merciless climate.
Glad to be home, sir.
The Apache were defending their homes as we will be defending ours.
If we fight as well as the Apache, I pity the Yankee invader.
General Stewart, if I had my way, we would show no quarter to the enemy.
No more than the Redskins showed your troopers.
The black flag, sir.
If the North triumphs, it is not alone the destruction of our property.
It is the prelude to anarchy.
Infidelity, the ultimate loss of free and responsible government on this continent.
It is the triumph of commerce, the banks, factories.
We should meet the federal invader on the outer verge of just and right defense and raise at once the black flag.
No quarter to the violators of our homes and firesides.
Our political leadership in Richmond's too timid to face the reality of this coming war.
They should look to the Bible.
It is full of such wars.
Only the black flag will bring the North quickly to its senses rapidly in the war.
Well, Colonel, one way or the other, the South will give them a warm reception.
You'll be in charge of the cavalry in the Harpers Ferry District.
Your experience and your zeal will be invaluable.
Thank you, sir.
And, Colonel, know that I will tell my men always to gallop toward the enemy, but try to wait.
Trop.
Well, there you have it, ladies and gentlemen.
That, in the words of Stonewall Jackson, was why the war was fought, and he was absolutely correct about what would happen if the Union prevailed.
It would be the triumph of the banks of commerce, of the factories, the end of responsible government on this continent.
It would be the prelude to anarchy if the violators of our homes and firesides were victorious.
He was never proven more right than he has been in the last three weeks with these Supreme Court decisions.
And when I defend the Confederate flag, I defend it because it is a symbol of heroism, of valor, of gallantry, a willingness for men to fight against all odds, a resistance to tyranny.
It is my family.
It is a Christian flag.
It is a Christian symbol.
That is modeled after the cross of St. Andrews, the patron saint of Scotland, where so many of our ancestors in the South settled from.
It is a Christian symbol.
That is why they hate it.
They hate everything it stands for.
That flag didn't fly over slave quarters, as Pat Buchanan wrote this week.
It flew over battlefields, and they were men who had a willingness to fight.
And it's what happened to the people that used to produce men like that, I don't know.
But I will tell you this, and I received this from a regular listener, Bill, in Kentucky.
All of these modern-day conservatives, so-called conservatives, these Republicans waving the white flag, they're outdoing themselves to get rid of the Confederate flag in an attempt to make the left like them.
Mainstream conservatives really, really think that if they keep trying hard enough, they'll eventually placate the minorities and the left.
It cannot be done.
And let me tell you something.
Right there in Charleston, South Carolina, you have the crew of the H.L. Huley submarine.
Men who got into a submarine.
It was the first naval submarine that sunk an enemy ship in the history of naval warfare.
The Confederates invented submarine warfare.
They had died.
The entire crew of the Huley had died on two or three occasions.
in advance of the successful sinking of the USS Housatonic.
The crew of the Hundley, the third crew led by Lieutenant General, excuse me, Lieutenant George Dixon, they sunk the Housatonic in Charleston Harbor, the first time a submarine had ever sunk another vessel.
They drown right after.
The previous crews had drowned in training.
Those men got into that ship.
You think they got into that ship to preserve slavery?
Nobody can be that foolish, ladies and gentlemen.
I sent a book out last week, or last fundraising drive to the people who donated.
One of the Confederate privates were in prison, I believe, and they quoted him.
They asked, why are you fighting us?
And he answered, because y'all are down here.
The South had a right to self-determination.
The South had a right to secede.
The South had a right to defend itself.
You know, the first prerequisite of a nation is to have a culture different from that of your surroundings.
The South still has that today.
That's the first prerequisite of a nation.
The South wanted out.
The North invaded, launched civil war against the South for doing what they felt as though was their God-given right, a right that their ancestors took for themselves with the crown in England not too long before.
But you look at the people like the crew of the Hundley, the detractors, those craven cowards like Rick Santorum and Nikki Haley and Bob Corker and Lamar Alexander, they are incapable of that amount of bravery.
The most unheralded, unknown Confederate private was more honorable than any United States congressman or senator, certainly the president.
These people who are attacking the Confederate flag this week in the wake of what happened in Charleston are beneath the Confederates in every possible way.
Virginia seceded rather than to provide soldiers or militia to participate in a war on their brothers.
What did you expect them to do?
North Carolina, Tennessee, Arkansas, they followed Virginia out over that issue.
They would not be party to a war on their family.
In the first inaugural, Lincoln sought to appease the states that had seceded by endorsing a constitutional amendment.
Are you hearing me, ladies and gentlemen?
This is not anything that's reported.
It's a fact.
Lincoln sought to appease the states that had seceded by endorsing a constitutional amendment to make slavery permanent in the 15 states where it then existed.
He even offered to help the southern states run down fugitive slaves.
If you think that the war was all about slavery, don't you think the South would have accepted that offer?
Why didn't they, if they were only interested in preserving slavery, which was on its way out all across the Western world, it would have ended in the South soon, regardless of who won the war.
Don't you think they would have taken that deal if that was all it was about?
It's lies from the pit of hell.
They hate the South because they hate Christians.
They hate the South because they hate white people.
This is a symbol of white identity.
It is a symbol of independence and men and people willing to stand up for something they believe.
Everything they hate, everything they are incapable of.
That is what the Confederate flag stands for.
And by God, I'll wave it until I, if I'm the last one waving the Confederate flag, it'll wave it my hands.
I'm going to wave it on the 4th of July.
I'm going to wave it on the 5th of July.
I'm going to wave it every day.
That's my flag.
And we're going to talk more about it right after this.
You want to talk about people who sacrificed something?
Listen to what Robert E. Lee sacrificed.
We're going to play that after the break.
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Ladies and gentlemen, When I took my daughter, my wife, my daughter, and our infant son to a movie today, we all went to see a family movie before the show, before I had to come into work tonight.
And then after we left the movie theater, I swung by to my parents' house.
And as God is my witness, as I pulled into the driveway, my dad was planting a Confederate flag in his front yard.
And it was the same flag that flew at my wedding in the backyard at my wedding behind the altar.
It was that same flag.
It's been in the barn since 2006 when I got married, and it's back in the yard today in the front yard.
That is, you know, certainly I have benefited from having an upbringing that taught me to honor my ancestors and not to hate myself and not to hate my family.
But talking about these limp-wristed, despicable politicians today who are selling out their family.
If you are a member of the United States Senate or the United States Congress and you're from the South, you're spitting on the graves of your ancestors to roll over to placate this horde that have no understanding whatsoever about what the Confederate flag was about.
We know it wasn't about preserving slavery.
I think we established that in the last segment.
But you're also denigrating the memory and the legacy of people who were far greater than you could ever hope to be.
And certainly one of those was Robert E. Lee, probably the most Christ-like man to ever walk the earth other than Christ himself.
I think he was a Christ-like figure by every standard of measurement.
He was offered command of the entire Union Army.
Can you imagine one of these politicians today, these sociopaths who are only interested in advancing themselves?
Can you imagine them turning down an opportunity to lead something as powerful as the Union Army to go and fight for a cause that was almost certain to lose?
No, that was a man of integrity.
And, you know, these clips from Gods and Generals that we're going to be featuring tonight are based on historical records.
So now we're going to play the clip of Robert E. Lee turning down command of the Union Army.
And in this movie, Robert E. Lee is portrayed by the great Robert Duvall, who is a descendant of Robert E. Lee.
Let's listen to it now.
Allow me to get to the point, sir.
I have been authorized by President Lincoln himself, with the full blessing of the War Department, to offer you full command of the Army with the rank of Major General.
This Army being raised to quell this rebellion and, of course, to preserve the Union.
I assume this army is to be used to invade those areas to eliminate the rebellion by force.
Yes, sir, the federal government has been challenged by these rebels who have been most effective in changing the sentiments of various state legislatures, challenging our Constitution and challenging our central government.
The attack on Fort Sumter cannot be ignored.
General, my home is right there across the Potomac.
Why, you can see Arlington House from your front door.
My family is spread all over this part of Virginia.
If you invade the South, your enemy territory will be there right across that river.
Well, sir, there is no great outcry for secession in Virginia.
It's not a foregone conclusion that Virginia or Tennessee, Arkansas, or Kentucky will join the rebellion.
My friend, may I humbly submit that you're mistaken about Virginia.
As you know, the legislature is convening in Richmond this very day to discuss the very issue of secession.
Now, perhaps you know their mind better than they themselves.
And I regret to say the president's hasty calling up of 75,000 volunteers to subdue the rebellion in the cotton states has done nothing to ameliorate the crisis.
It has only deepened it.
I trust you're not being too hasty yourself, Colonel.
This is a great opportunity for you to serve your country.
My country, Mr. Blair.
I never thought I lived to see the day that the President of the United States would raise an army to invade his own country.
No, Mr. Blair, I cannot lead it.
I will not lead it.
I'm sorry to hear you say that, sir.
I fear you're making a most dreadful mistake.
Would you please convey my deepest sense of honor and gratitude to the President, but I must decline his offer.
Please tell him, please be clear, I have never taken my duties lightly, but I have no greater duty than to my home, to Virginia.
Ladies and gentlemen, Robert E. Lee is a hero by any standard of measurement.
What a man, a Christian.
In 1862, and we're going to take a caller from Alabama, but in 1862, Abraham Lincoln wrote Horace Greeley that if he could restore the Union without freeing one slave, he would do it.
The Emancipation Proclamation freed only those slaves.
Lincoln had no power to free, those still under Confederate rule.
As for slaves in the Union states, they remained property of their owners.
And as for terrorists, we've heard a lot of these disgusting people referring to the Confederates as terrorists.
No army fought more honorable than Robert E. Lee's Army of Northern Virginia.
Few serious scholars deny that.
The great terrorist in that war was William Tecumseh Sherman, who violated all known rules of war by looting, burning, and pillaging on his infamous march to the sea from Atlanta to Savannah.
So why now are the Confederates being so vilified?
Because they were southern white Christian men.
And you look at the sacrifice, the honor of people like Robert E. Lee turning down command of the Union Army to go and fight for his family, fight for Virginia.
Nathan Bedford Forrest, who is underseas, they want to dig up his bones and throw him away here in Memphis.
They want to dig him up, desecrate his grave like some ISIS terrorist.
Nathan Bedford Forrest had no education, yet he rose to become a self-made millionaire.
And then despite that heroic accomplishment, he then donated the majority of his wealth to field the Confederate infantry.
And then without any military training, enlisted as a soldier, a private of the lowest rank, despite being exempt from service because of his standing as a major planter.
And then, with no military training, rose from private to lieutenant general, one of the greatest tacticians in the history of mobile warfare.
His strategy is still studied by militaries today.
These men are heroes.
These men are heroes.
That flag is a heroic symbol.
And if you don't know that, then I pity you.
Let's go to Ben in Alabama.
Ben, take it away.
Hey, how y'all doing out there?
We're fighting, my friend.
fighting.
Well, hey man, we're trying to fight here in Alabama too.
I'd just like to say that in the last two days I've never seen a better display of southern pride in my entire life.
I'm a young man.
I'm 23 years old and I went to a flea market today in North Alabama that's close to my house and I tried to purchase a Confederate flag and usually there is an abundance there.
You can find them all over the place.
And they were totally sold out.
People had came up and showed up at 5.30 in the morning and just bought them up.
I mean, it was amazing.
I was very proud.
I was disappointed because I didn't get to buy one, but I was proud that they're out there and they're flying.
Hey, Ben, that's a great point.
You know, obviously the Confederate flag is being taken down from the grounds in Columbia, Amazon, all of these, you know, American corporations, the same corporations that Stonewall Jackson said in that clip earlier would take over the country and help ruin the country.
You know, they're all getting rid of any Confederate logo.
But I talked to a major flag manufacturer, a major flag distributor just last night.
It was about midnight.
I have not slept this week at all.
Maybe a night's worth the entire week spread out because I have been fighting in defense of our people, of our symbols, of our heroes, of our families.
Well, I appreciate you saying that.
But just to echo what you pointed out, this major flag seller said that he has completely sold out of Confederate flags and every distributor here that he knows has sold out of Confederate flags.
You cannot, it was even on the news here in Memphis that the local retailers are sold out of Confederate flags.
Not that they threw them away, they sold out.
You cannot buy a Confederate flag, to my knowledge, anywhere in the country tonight, not because they're being discarded, but because they have sold out.
That is encouraging, and I appreciate you bringing that up.
That was a point I wanted to make.
It might have slipped my mind.
We're so busy tonight, but that is something that we can invest a little bit of hope in.
Like I said, even my father pulled out his Confederate flag out of his barn and put it in the front yard as a result as a response to all of this.
So as we will be doing the same as I have done at my house.
So this is good.
This is good.
Listen, they can take it down in South Carolina.
They cannot remove it from our hearts.
Amen.
They can't take it from our front porch either.
Oh, that's right.
I'd like to see them try.
Hey, Ben, thank you for the call tonight.
Hey, listen, always an honor to hear from somebody from Alabama.
And I appreciate you adding that point to the conversation tonight is that, yes, it's under attack, but also the people who know the truth are standing up.
And you're going to see more Confederate flags in America in the coming week than you ever have before because they're going to, you know, these people that are buying them aren't buying them, I feel, to put in their closet.
They're buying them to do something with them in response to this abomination.
When we come back, we're going to talk to Eddie the Bombardier Miller.
We're going to continue to defend the flag.
We're going to continue to offer talking points that you can share in your circles of influence.
We're going to continue to play these excellent clips from the movie Gods and Generals.
If you haven't gotten that movie, you've got to get it.