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The Political Cesspool, known across the South and worldwide as the South's foremost populist conservative radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
All right, everybody.
Welcome back to the third and triumphant final hour of tonight's live broadcast of the Political Cesspool radio program heard around the world on the internet at thepolitical cesspool.org, syndicated nationally by the Liberty News Radio Network, getting us out to AM and FM stations across the country.
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And that's where I sit this evening, Winston Smith joining us via telephone where he has our featured guest on the line with him.
Winston, I'll turn it to you to take it away.
All right.
Thank you, James.
Somebody beating on the window here.
Sorry about that.
It's one of those nights.
Yeah, it is.
It's my son.
Do you need to go answer the window?
So where you're at, they just knock on the windows.
We do it doors in Memphis.
Uh-huh.
All right, let's get on with the show here.
Folks, my guest tonight is Ken Gividin.
He is the owner, proprietor, head honcho, big cheese, top dog, the man, the boss, El Paro Grande, at one of my favorite websites, www.dailyken.com.
And that's Ken with two ends, by the way, dailyken.com.
His blog first, or his website first caught my attention with some very startling internet memes that he had produced.
And we're going to talk about those in a minute.
But I want to say welcome to Ken.
How are you, Ken?
Fine, Winston.
How you doing?
I'm doing very well.
Your website is just a great...
I enjoy it every day.
Yeah, I got to tell you, there's two great honors a web publisher has in his career.
And the first is to be interviewed on the political cesspool.
And the second is to be slimed by the Southern Poverty Law Center.
So one down, one to go.
Well, I promise you the latter will follow the former in a couple of hours after we get done tonight.
So just stay tuned to their site.
Yeah, I don't know what's wrong with those guys.
I can't get their attention.
But yeah, I hope you're right.
We'll find out.
We'll help make that happen, I promise you.
You can rest assured they're listening.
All right, Ken, let's talk about your website.
DailyKen.com.
It's all-encompassing.
There, one can find news items of interest to constitutional conservatives.
They can have a look at a weather map.
They can watch movies, great old black-and-white movies.
They can see video of news items.
And they can review your kenisms.
And we'll talk about kenisms a little bit later.
What do you want dailyken.com to be?
What do you want people to get from it?
Well, basically, the purpose of our website is to communicate news items of interest to conservatives.
And a thing that I noticed about so many conservative websites is they do a good job presenting the news, but when it would come to race realist issues, they would shy away from those.
And there are other websites, it seemed like they focused on nothing but race realist issues.
And I thought, well, why not a website that just tells the truth across the board?
I mean, we just hit everything.
And for example, if 3,000 black kids riot in a shopping mall, we'll put the headline on our website, 3,000 black kids rioted in a shopping mall, you know.
So that's the point of the website.
We're just not politically correct.
You're not going to call them youths or teens.
Yeah, sometimes we call them teens, but we put it in quotes so they'll know.
You know, it's kind of obvious.
Yeah, it's on there.
But the point is, I'm not going to do it.
I'm sorry?
Continue, please.
I was going to say that the thing is, we're not going to pull any punches because it's not politically correct.
So that's what we're all about.
How long have you been on the internet?
How long has Daily Ken been up?
We started this a year ago.
Actually, we started January 1st, 2012.
So we've been up about a year and four months.
And a lot of conservative websites have got behind us and put links to our site.
And so we have several thousand visitors coming in every day.
And we're really pleased with that.
Hopefully, we'll keep on going.
Indeed, I hope you do as well.
Now, excuse me.
Most of our listeners are familiar with that disgusting anti-white campaign called Unfair.
And it features the face of white people, and written upon those faces are messages of white guilt.
You've taken that idea and you kind of turned it against white haters.
In fact, that was the first thing that attracted me to dailyken.com.
Would you tell your listeners about that?
Yeah, well, the program initially was intended, from my perspective, to make white people guilty about being white, to replace the American dream with white privilege.
And what they're missing is, or let me phrase it this way, their strategy is to make us think that there is something unfair about being white, and they play on the fair skin thing.
And so they would project pictures of white people with not fair written on their foreheads or wherever.
And I'm thinking, man, what about all the white people who have been killed, murdered by black people?
And I'm not saying that all blacks are criminals or all criminals black, but that's something they're just totally overlooking.
And so we took that perspective and we put it in the form of photographs by taking pictures of white victims of black murderers and writing, it's not fair on their forehead on the photograph.
And that's gone on, and it's really driven on the point that, yeah, that's not fair too.
It was absolutely startling the first time I saw it, and you kept producing them, and they are real attention getters, folks.
If you go to dailyken.com, and go through the link called Kenisms and scroll all the way down to the bottom, you'll see, let me see, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, you know, about 35 or so pictures of white people who have been attacked and killed by blacks, and certainly on their foreheads is written, it isn't fair.
The first one is a beautiful white girl with blue eyes.
On her face is written, I was stabbed to death by a black man on a London bus, age 16.
Another one is of a young man, a boy, said, I was beaten to death by black classmates, age 12.
There are older people on here beaten to death by black teens, age 81.
It has a picture of the Shannon Christian and Christopher Newsom.
And on their faces are written, it isn't fair.
We were torched to death.
I was 23, kidnapped and tortured to death by five blacks.
I was 21.
So it's very striking.
I encourage you to go take a look at it.
Have you received any complaints about that or any input at all?
Surprisingly, I haven't received any.
I've had a couple people, I actually had one guy who sent me a notice on Facebook and he said, you know, I bet you're going to get some complaints about that.
But that's the closest we've come.
Ken Winston, hold up right there, gentlemen.
We're going to take a break, but more to come with the proprietor of dailykin.com when the political cesspool continues in just a moment.
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All right, everybody.
Welcome back to the Political Assessable Radio Program.
James Edwards, Winston Smith, hosting this third and final hour.
Our featured guest this evening is the administrator of DailyKen.com.
You know, it's a news site, as they were mentioning during the first segment, that doesn't seek to fan the flames of racial sensationalism.
But most importantly, it doesn't cover up the important facts either.
A story is a story.
Political correctness be damned.
This is a website that just gives you the facts.
Who, what, where, when, and why.
You know, and I was at the website earlier today, and I'm at it again right now as I sit in the radio station here.
And I'm just, I marvel at all the information that's here.
You know, the Political Assessment's website primarily houses the broadcast archives.
It gives you a live listening stream.
It's the focal point of the internet presence of the radio show, to be sure, but mainly it's there to give folks a chance to come and listen to us on the internet.
Now, we have stories each week, mainly stories that we've covered on the show, or perhaps something we plan to cover on the show if we're in the news or giving an interview outside of our own venue here.
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Normally, 10 to 15 fresh items a week.
We always put up at least two news stories a day to keep current content up there.
But, you know, that's pretty much it.
Dailyken.com, I was looking at it and I was wondering, well, where is Winston going to go with this fella?
Because there's just so much they could get into.
I really like the way you started it off, folks.
So Winston, by all means, continue.
Thanks, James.
I'm glad you're enjoying the website as much as I am.
Exactly.
I'm looking at Ken's action movies here.
You can watch these full-length movies.
And here's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea from 1916, a Yank in Libya from 1942, an Arizona stagecoach from 1942, Bird of Paradise, 1932.
Unfortunately, they're not closed captions, so I can't watch them, but you certainly can.
I encourage you to do so.
We've got several categories here.
Action movies, classic movies, comedies, horror, mystery, romance.
You get it all there at dailyken.com.
Am I right, Ken?
Yeah, you kind of piqued my interest.
Why can't you watch them with a closed caption?
Well, I'll answer that question on behalf of Winston.
Because I'm deaf.
He really is deaf.
He wasn't always that way.
Just a couple of years ago, as we like to brag about, Winston has overcome that particular set of circumstances with the aid of a courtroom transcriptionist.
So Ken, the way he does it now is we have a courtroom transcriptionist listening to the program on the line as it's being broadcast real time.
And Winston is in a chat room, and the transcriptionist is able to take what we're saying and type it as fast as we can speak it, and Winston is able to respond with only a second or two delay.
Winston came up with it.
It's white ingenuity at its best is what it is.
Yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking.
Who invented all of this?
Well, it wasn't me, but somebody unrelated to.
It comes out of Western civilization.
Well, I got one more for you, Ken.
The owner of the network who is producing the show for us tonight running our board just so happens to be blind.
So you take my mental incapacities and put it all together, and we got the whole spectrum covered tonight.
But hey, you know, I'm telling you, Sam Bushman, I don't want to get off track here, but he founded this radio network, and he's a genius when it comes to the field.
If you've ever listened to his radio program, you'll know what I'm talking about.
But we got deaf, we got blind, we got semi-mentally handicapped.
If you can, count me in there with my.
But we make it work.
Great.
You know, the way we like to say it, guys, is we tell the truth and suffer the consequences.
Well, what did Orwell say about it, Winston?
I'll let you give the classic quote.
Stephanie didn't catch that.
What did you say, Ken?
Oh, his question was, what did George Orwell say about that?
About telling the truth.
I've actually got it on my website.
If you look under the masked head there.
Oh, is it the quote about telling the truth becoming a revolutionary act?
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yep.
Yeah, in times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
That's kind of where all of us are today.
I guess by that standard of measurement, Patrick Henry and the boys would be proud of this broadcast and of the website we're featuring this evening.
That being said, Winston, back to the line of questioning.
I think we've diverted far enough.
Let's get it back between the ditches.
All right, here we go.
Now, earlier, I mentioned kenisms, and these are internet memes that you create.
I want to read some of them and ask you to comment on them.
What inspired you and what you intended them to do?
The first one here is like this.
Dear Congressman, remember what happened when Eve compromised with the servants?
Remember what happened when Reagan refused to compromise with the Soviets?
Then tell Obama, we won't meet you halfway.
Do you see compromise as a problem with the so-called conservatives in Congress?
Yeah, there seems to be a mindset on Capitol Hill that the compromise is a good thing.
My personal opinion is when the media gets all worried because government is closing down for lack of a budget or whatever, and they're crying for a compromise, in my way of thinking, that's not a bad thing.
That's a good thing.
I think it sometimes is good when government just backs off, slows down, doesn't do nearly as much as they're doing.
And so when the conservatives compromise with the liberals, that never produces a good outcome.
I see Obama as the perfect example of hypocrisy when it comes to compromise.
He demands that Republicans compromise with him.
He demands that everyone else give up in order to enact his will, in order to get him his way.
But he himself will not compromise anything.
Why do people feel a need to not make the same demand of him?
Yeah, you know, I think there's just a mindset among conservatives where we are somehow obligated to cave in.
But like you point out, a liberal's idea of compromise is when we agree with them.
You know, 50% is 100%.
And, you know, we just have to learn, Winston, that the compromise is not a good idea because right is right and wrong is wrong.
And if we meet him halfway, we're half wrong.
And, you know, as it's obviously has to be mentioned, again, I have never seen the liberals rush to the negotiating table to compromise with conservatives, ever.
I mean, never.
Yeah, and what worries me is as the nation is becoming more and more liberal, we're going to see more and more of that.
Where we're not, where compromise isn't even going to be an issue.
We're going to be locked out totally.
They don't care.
And keep in mind how Obama has treated the conservative Catholics.
He doesn't care what they think.
If they don't agree with him on the so-called abortion issue, he just casts them aside.
He doesn't care.
And there's coming a time, and I hate to say it, guys, but there's coming a time in the very near future where the liberals are going to control everything.
And compromise at that point will no longer even be a factor.
And that's a scary prospect to consider.
Well, and I'd like to add this before we come up on the next commercial break, which is just seconds away.
Pat Buchanan, a good friend of ours, has come out with a new column this week.
Will the GOP Embrace Amnesty?
And I won't read the whole thing, but I'll read the last two sentences, which pretty much sums it up.
Here's Pat's prediction.
Once word goes out that the illegals will no longer be sent back after amnesty happens, they will commence a new stampede to the border.
And once the new law is on the books, Democrats will move to truncate the time for the former illegals to become U.S. citizens.
And Republicans will do what comes naturally, capitulate again.
And that seems to certainly be the MO for the GOP over the course of the last several decades.
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And we got dailykin.com.
That is dailyk-e-n-n.com.
I'm here at the website right now.
So many great stories here.
Sam Bushman here looking at it.
He wants me to tell you about the Twinkies could return without the union hostess to reopen under new owners.
I mean, that's a top story there.
But I'm telling you, you got hundreds of articles here.
Britain, for instance, a story that I have not heard about and would not have known about if not for DailyKin.com, where I'm at right now.
Teacher fired for calling homosexuality a sin.
Judge calls the firing tolerance.
All right, just, I mean, wrap your mind around that one.
Black thugs hold hostages at Radio Shack.
Black thugs murder people at Victoria Station during rush hour.
All redheads descend from the same ancestor.
We should be proud.
There's so many more.
Folks, that's just the tip of the ice book.
You've got hundreds of links here.
So, you know, we have the website basically to glorify the radio show.
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Anyway, before the last break, we were talking about compromise.
And I'm thinking back here, Pat was talking about how the Republican Party will do what it always does when it comes to issues.
They will capitulate.
You take any issue, you know, with the so-called sodomite rights movement.
You know, don't ask, don't tell what's the compromise.
Well, they'll take a compromise and they'll sit on it for a couple of years.
Then they'll redraw the lines a little bit further.
And conservatives, Christians, Republicans, whatever you want to call them, a hodgepodge of those entities will always give it.
I mean, they might grouse over their beer.
They might complain a little bit, but at the end of the day, you look at the culture war.
You take any issue you want, and there's no doubt we've been fighting a retreating battle on that issue, whatever your signature issue may be, and that step by step, inch by inch, we lose ground and we never take any ground back.
And the Republican Party damn sure never does anything to take any ground back.
It's just more apologies, more wayward drifting on over to the left.
And gentlemen, that's what you were talking about before the last break.
Compromise.
Yeah, James, you made some very good points there.
I appreciate that.
So let's go on to next kenism, if you don't mind.
Here's one.
Demographics determine destiny.
And on that one, I would add that DNA determines demographics.
And by that, I mean that ethnicity creates culture and culture is what makes both the present and the future.
What do you say about that?
Well, I'm not sure I know exactly what your question is, but what I noticed that the liberals do is they tell us that the only distinctions between race is skin color, skin tone.
But we know that's not true.
In fact, I was listening to Keith a little bit earlier in the show, and he was telling how the Jewish people have a much higher intelligence than the population as a whole.
Why can't we just admit that?
I mean, it's just a fact.
Why can't we just tell the truth about that?
And demographics do determine destiny.
And by the way, that's not original with me.
A lot of people have said that, and I've taken notice of it.
And here's my worry, Winston.
And I'm going to say this parenthetically.
And this is just me, but I can't tell the difference between James and Winston when you guys talk, so I never know who I'm talking to.
So you guys, is that okay if I do that, you guys?
We prefer y'all.
Do I, you all?
We prefer y'all.
Oh, y'all.
Okay.
Okay, y'all.
That really discourages me because people used to say I sounded intelligent.
Now I sound like James.
You're cognitively deficient.
I wasn't going to mention this, but I don't know if I have jet lag or what, but I have had a splitting headache for the whole show.
It must have been Keith in the first hour, but just kidding, Keith.
I know you're listening.
But no, I have had a head cold this week that has been murder.
And I'm barely making it through this one.
So we sound alike.
I'm kind of, it's kind of all over the place.
Ken, you're going to have to do with us.
But I'll tell you what, to make it up to you, you won't mistake Eddie the Bombardier Miller's voice for anybody, nor his unique way of hosting a show.
So next time we have you on, we're going to keep having you on to you on the hate watch list.
So shouldn't take more than one or two appearances.
We're going to have Eddie on next week, and there's no way you'll confuse him with anyone else on the staff.
Okay, no, that's James that has the headache, right?
James has the headache.
James has the headache, Winston's death, and our producer's blind.
There you go.
But Western civilization, I think right now is our terminal generation if we don't do something.
And I don't think that history is going to remember us, Western civilization, as the generation that failed.
I think they're not going to remember us at all.
Well, that's an interesting point because I'll tell you, you leave them to write the history books.
We've been talking about it for years here on this show, and particularly during this month and even in the second hour today, they're just rabid to remove, eradicate, bulldoze, wash down the memory hold, anything to do with the Confederacy, for instance.
This is just one of many examples.
I mean, who out there, you know, we talk about the students all the time in high schools who can't answer basic questions about government politics and civics.
You know, they don't know who the vice president is.
They don't know who the Republican nominee is.
They can't name the capital of the state that they live in.
I mean, these are, you know, second, third-grade questions that you're asking them.
How many of them know about the Irish that had been enslaved, for instance?
That slavery wasn't just a practice that was unique to blacks in the southern states.
Listen, if you leave it to our enemies to write the history books, there will be no mention of the wonders of Western civilization and the people who brought them to us to all of humanity.
We will be remembered as racists and slavers, and the world is a better place now that we're all gone.
That's what the history books will read if we don't stand up and do something about it.
And that will be, it'll be a short chapter on the history of the white race, and that will be it.
And we'll be the bad guys.
Oh, absolutely.
And that's assuming that we're remembered at all.
But that's to answer Winston's question.
That's what we're talking about.
Demographics is our destiny.
And I got to tell you, the liberals, the multiculturalists, the cultural Marxists, whatever you want to call them, they don't care about non-white people.
They're manipulating non-white people.
Amen.
Destroy Western civilization.
We're the ones who gave non-white people all the technology that's not only life-enhancing, but life-saving.
Ken, I have said that a thousand times if I've said it once, and God bless you for bringing that back to the audience attention.
You know, something like that, you're not going to hear it anywhere else, so it's worth repeating, and it should be repeated because it should be remembered.
You're absolutely right.
I mean, and we say it all the time.
We don't hate anybody on this show.
Perhaps we don't love anyone quite as much as we love our own family, our own children, our own ancestors.
But that's not to say that we hate anyone just because we love someone a little bit more than perhaps we love other people.
But we certainly hate no one.
And you look at the, we always do a compare and contrast between grievances versus gratitude.
Well, we hear the grievances that non-whites have about what Europeans have supposedly done to them in the past.
But what about the gratitude for the hundreds of times the impact that they've had that have been positive, which is a hundredfold versus the likes of which they supposedly suffered hundreds of years ago?
David Livingston, for example, went into darkest Africa, brought them technology that literally saved their lives.
Thousands, maybe millions, I don't know, over the centuries.
It's incredible.
But basically, we're being lied to.
How many people know, for example, you all, y'all, excuse me, I said it wrong.
How many guys, how many people know that the first slave owner in American history was a black tobacco farmer?
How many people know in 1830 that there were 3,775 black families in the South who owned slaves?
Why aren't they teaching this in our schools?
Well, if it doesn't add up to the fictional script and narrative that they're trying to, well, first of all, I mean, it's just, if it's not Harriet Tubman or Frederick Douglass, it's not in the, you know, it's not important.
So, you know, but it doesn't fit the script either.
So it's twofold.
Yeah, you know, our kids don't know who George Washington is, but they all know who Rosa Parks is.
Well, you must listen to this show.
If you don't, I tell you, there's a lot of overlap here, and I'm glad to hear it.
No, absolutely.
I mean, yeah, I mean, you know, Rosa Parks, you know, what George Washington did paled a comparison to what she did.
I mean, she sat on a bus, for God's sake.
What did he do to ever compare to that?
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All right, folks, final segment of the broadcast this evening.
James Edwards Winston-Smith can give it in on dailykin.com, daily, k-e-n-n.com.
Winston wrote the blurb for the description that will appear on the archive of tonight's broadcast, this hour, of course, featuring our guest.
And he writes that, in addition to being a former gubernatorial candidate and the author of two books, Ken's website is controversial.
Facebook frequently threatens to shut down his page for his observations, and belligerent homosexual hate groups despise him, all of which makes him a perfect guest for our show.
And as this interview continues on, I couldn't agree more with that assessment.
I was spending time during the commercial break further perusing dailyken.com.
I see an article here that I clicked on.
It's a John Derbyshire column that Ken has linked up here.
You're not a man until someone calls you a racist.
And John Darbysher has been a guest on this show.
We've shared the podium at speaking engagements together.
And if that's true, you're not a man until someone calls you a racist.
That must make us men among boys or giants among men.
We must be supermen.
Yeah, that's it.
Thank you, Winston.
Well, Winston, you are, in fact, the person who orchestrated and facilitated this interview with Ken this evening.
And so I'd like to give you the microphone uninterrupted to finish it up tonight.
Winston and Ken, back over to you two.
Ken, I see on dailyken.com that you've come up with a nice neologism, Travonize.
Travonize, which you define as when the media portray a demon as an angel.
That's pretty good.
Pretty powerful stuff.
Now, I think the Obama presidency is an ongoing Travonization.
The guy is evil, and he is being sainted just about.
You see many pictures of him throughout the week where he appears to have a halo, the presidential seal behind his head or something.
They give this guy a halo.
Have you seen any examples of Travanizing since the attack on George Zimmerman?
Oh, well, yeah, you know, the Travanizing that I saw was the Boston bombing where these guys who did that, they tried initially to, it was liberal media I'm talking about, tried initially to say it's really not a terrorist attack.
And the reason they do that is they don't want to have any terrorist attacks during the Obama administration.
Well, it obviously backfired on them.
They can't travenize these guys.
They're Muslim terrorists.
shouldn't have even been here.
Oh.
Our time is running short, but I want to get a pretty full answer from you on this question, and then another one.
What do you see as the worst thing that could happen to America?
What is the worst thing that can happen to America?
Was that your question?
Yes.
Well, the worst thing that can happen to America, sad to say, Winston, is happening to America.
We are our country, well, I say our country, I should say Western civilization as a whole.
We are not in decline.
Let me phrase it this way.
To say that we're in decline is insufficient.
The bus is being driven off the cliff.
Yeah, we're in decline, but we're about to crash.
And again, you know, we are the terminal generation.
There will be none after us.
And I say that with this in mind.
Back in 1978, when I was in college, a group of college students went to London, England on a college trip.
And during our stay in London, I saw a black guy, a black street vendor, and it was so amazing because he had this dignified British accent.
But during our stay in 1978, I only saw one non-white person in all of London.
And how much has that has changed?
And demographics indeed is our destiny.
Go back and recap what we talked about before.
The multiculturalists, the cultural Marxists, don't care about non-white people.
They care about their agenda.
And they are using those people to their advantage and they're abusing us to their advantage.
That's the worst thing that could happen is what's happening right now.
What can folks do to stop it?
I knew you were going to ask me that.
And the problem is, Winston, the bus is going off the cliff and the brakes are out.
I don't have an answer.
I hate to say that, but I really don't.
I'm not sure there is an answer.
It's kind of like we're up against the wall and the firing squad's about to shoot.
And all we can say is, well, this is not good.
Well, I mean, it really is a question that no single person can't have an answer for.
To be simplistic, all you can say is that I'm only one person, but I can be one person that makes a difference.
And collectively, through many people pulling in the same direction, perhaps something can happen.
But is there one thing that I can do or you can do or Winston can do that's going to turn this whole thing around?
And the answer, of course, is no.
It's just not that simple.
If we have the answer, we'd certainly do it.
We'd implement it.
I think there is something that we can do.
I spoke on this several years ago, I think it was.
And my answer to what can we do is for white people to just be what we are.
And it wasn't, our country was started because our ancestors were mightily ticked off at the possibility of a 2% tax increase.
And they're ready to go to war for it.
What if it happens?
I'm sorry, go ahead.
Stop, you proceed, Ken.
I was going to say one of my kinisms is what we should do and what we could do are two different things.
I can tell you immediately what we should do.
First thing we should do is get rid of Obama by whatever means is legal.
But it's not what we should do.
It's what we can do.
What can we possibly do that is effective?
And we're really limited, Winston.
We just are.
But that's not to say we shouldn't try.
Well, I mean, certainly you've got to support, you know, the climate is such that folks don't want to stand up and speak out.
They don't want to put themselves into a position to be picked off by a politically correct sniper.
I mean, they don't want to stick their necks out and have it lopped off.
They lose a job.
They get ostracized.
I mean, people, listen, white folks need social acceptance.
It's, you know, a lot of people just need, you know, food and shelter.
Whites need food, shelter, and the accolades of their peers, unfortunately.
It's something that's really got us into a fix because I don't think any other race is as caught up in the trappings of social acceptance as whites are.
But that's not to say that a lot of whites don't fundamentally agree with us.
We know that they do.
That's how we've been able to be here for nine years.
That's why over a million and a half folks, Ken, have visited your website since January.
People do agree with us.
The people that agree with us that aren't out there on the front lines, then not everyone is in a position to be.
I understand that.
I'm not saying we're better than you or we're doing more than you and you should be ashamed.
No, I understand.
If I was in a position that put my family in immediate danger, then I would step back.
Or if I was in a position to where I could lose my job for speaking out as I do, then I would have to reconsider my role in what I do.
But for the people who are out there and agreeing with us, they need to stand up and support in whatever ways that they can the folks that are on the front lines serving as their voice, fighting on their behalf.
And certainly there are a few of them on this radio show tonight, Ken, our guest included in that company.
But there are others.
Everyone can support somebody, if nothing else.
Yep.
Well, you know, when I write an article in my blog that's related to a conservative issue, I may get a few hundred hits.
But when I write something that deals squarely with racial issues, it's not uncommon to get several thousand hits.
Now, what that tells me is people are paying attention, but like you said, they're scared to death.
They're afraid that if they tell the truth, they're going to be ostracized or stigmatized as racist.
But they are thinking.
And that's a very positive thing.
Now, you know, they're out there.
I mean, you know, if it was just us and this was an echo chamber and there was, you know, 10 people listening to the show tonight, then you would think, okay, well, it's a nice hobby, but ultimately, we don't want to be part of a vanity project.
But that's not the case.
I mean, we know that this show has a large audience.
You know, your website has a large audience.
We've been out there.
We've been making news.
We've done this.
We've done that.
And it's all because people support us.
And, you know, so long as there is a pulse, you can put the defibrillator on the corpse of Western Civilization and try to revive it.
And, you know, honestly, if it was just us, I'd probably still do it, just to say that I did my part and I finished the race.
But I still believe, as dark as the days are, Ken and Winston, that there can be a second renaissance, that Western civilization can resuscitate itself.
You know, do I have a clear roadmap?
Do I have a path to victory that I'm going to lay out and everybody follows it?
And in X number of years, everything's back to the way it was in 1954?
Of course not.
But I do have hope, and hope's enough.
Well, I believe the 2012 election woke up a lot of people because they realized that Obama was not a competent individual.
He's just not a good president.
All other factors laid aside, but it got elected anyhow.
And I think a lot of folks, a lot of white people, were shocked and realizing the physical regret today.
White people were the ones that elected, and it wasn't 12% of the black population that did it.
But we're out of time.
I want to thank Winston for making this interview with Ken Given a possibility this evening.
And Ken, we will have you back on, my friend.
It was an hour that went by far too quickly.
I'm James Edwards on behalf of the Political Cessible.
We'll see you next week, everybody.
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