July 21, 2012 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Welcome to the Political Cesspool, known worldwide as the South's foremost populous radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the political cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
All right, everybody, welcome back to the Political Cesspool radio program.
I'm your host, James Edwards.
We have for you now the encore appearance of a guest who absolutely captivated our audience back on June 2nd when he made his debut appearance on our award-winning nationally syndicated radio program.
I am, of course, talking about former DEA agent Robert Mazor, who spent five years, just to give you a quick reminder, spent five years undercover infiltrating the criminal hierarchy of Columbia's drug cartels.
The dirty bankers and businessmen he befriended, some of whom still shape power across the globe, knew him as Bob Mazzoula, a wealthy, mob-connected big shot living the good life.
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But under Mazur's Armani suits, recorders quietly worred, capturing the damning evidence of their crimes.
Then, at a staged wedding, Robert Mazor led the dramatic takedown that shook the underworld.
In the end, more than 80 men and women were charged worldwide.
Operation C. Chase became one of the most successful undercover operations in the history of U.S. law enforcement, and the evidence gathered there proved critical to the conviction of General Manuel Noriega.
When Robert Mazor was first on our show, ladies and gentlemen, we focused primarily on his excellent book, The Infiltrator, which is the story of how this man helped bring down the unscrupulous bankers who manipulated complex international finance systems to serve drug lords, including Pablo Excabar.
And now he is back with us tonight.
But folks, again, I want to replug that book, which is filled with dangerous lies, near misses, horroring escapes.
The Infiltrator is as bracing and explosives as the greatest fiction thrillers, only it's all true.
And again, we're delighted and honored to have the man who made that history, Robert Mazur.
Bob, all that being said, welcome back, my friend.
Oh, well, thank you so much for the invitation to come back.
Certainly the pleasure is all ours.
And with that being said, the introduction now behind us, I'm going to turn you back over to my co-host, Eddie Miller, who has been diligently preparing for your return.
And Eddie, Mr. Mazur, is all yours.
Well, good morning.
Good night, Bob.
Good afternoon, Bob.
You know, I feel like I know you almost.
You know, we've emailed back and forth, and I'm really excited tonight, on the verge of being nervous, I guess.
You know, me and James, the people here at the CESPO, we feel really honored.
I'm going to have to kind of brag a little bit because I feel like we were one of the first people around to get you on our network before this big banking scandal bust upon the scene here, this HSBC.
You know, I had told James earlier, we had all kinds of stuff happening here at the Cesspoo.
We're small and we have a lot of volunteers.
We have a big audience now.
And I couldn't wait to get you back on.
But I was telling James that at first we were going to probably focus on Fast and Furious, but that was before this big HSBC banking scandal broke.
And I tell you what, Bob, everything in your book, so many things in your book, and James forgot to mention the movie.
We need to plug your movie too before it's over with.
But so many things that you talked about and told us about the first night you were on this program have really come to pass.
And with that, I'm going to ask you, where do you want to start tonight?
You want to start with the HSBC scandal or do you want to start with Fast and Furious, Bob?
No, let's talk about HSBC because it just broke this week, and it's a pretty interesting case that your listeners can follow on the Internet.
The Senate subcommittee that's been investigating HSBC, of course, they are just one of the many arms of investigations that have been focused on HSBC.
There has also been a federal grand jury in Newark, excuse me, in New York, that has focused on possible criminal offenses within by officers of the bank.
But the bottom line of it is you can everybody can Google Senate subcommittee, HSBC, maybe findings or something along those lines, and you'll come up with about a 300-plus page report that just came out that gives you every single little detail, which and you're 100% right, Eddie.
It mirrors the conduct of the officers of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International that I dealt with and senior bank officials in another 10 or 12 other banks that have been caught with their hands in the cookie jar and have admitted to criminal offenses.
HSBC has now been exposed for having been involved in what probably will amount to the largest money laundering on behalf of the Mexican cartels that any institution can be associated with.
And Bob, not to cut you off, but I'd like to tell the audience, if I'm not mistaken, you correct me if I'm wrong, Bob.
HSBC is the largest bank in Europe.
Is that true?
I believe I'm right on that.
Yeah, I think they're the 10th, their presence here in the United States is about the 10th largest in this country, and HSBC is in fact the largest, I think, bank based in the UK, even though it's called Hong Kong Shanghai Bank Corporation, HSBC.
But any of your listeners who've been through an airport and look up onto the gangways at the airport when you walk from the plane to the airport, generally HSBC has advertisement both externally and internally in those gangways talking about how they are the bank of the world.
I've seen it.
I've seen it myself, Bob.
Yeah, their New York office is both their New York and their Miami office are the focal points of the investigations by the Senate Subcommittee and many other bodies.
There are two U.S. Attorney's office, one in, I think it's in Virginia, the other one is in New York, plus the Federal Reserve, plus the New York District Attorney's Office, all have their guns aimed at HSBC.
You know, this, for me, really isn't anything new.
I started writing articles about this type of conduct that had been published in the New York Times about two years ago and other major news outlets.
And what I was writing about at the time was that if the U.S. government simply focused their resources on obtaining the records that are contained within the Federal Reserve and work their way backwards with respect to the repatriation of U.S. dollars around the world, they would be able to, if they followed it backward, to identify the banks around the world that collect the U.S. currency and then sell it back to the Federal Reserve.
And if they worked with the central banks in these other nations and therefore obtained the information about who precisely which banks were providing it and then worked and got the information about which account holders at those banks in those countries were providing the currency, they would be identifying the world's biggest money launderers.
In Lebanon in 2009, there was a spike of currency repatriation from Lebanon that doubled during that year.
And what we saw in that instance by following the money backward was that the U.S. government was able to substantiate that a little bank, little relatively speaking, called the Lebanese Canadian Bank, was in fact a huge recipient of U.S. currency that was being collected. by companies throughout North Africa, the Middle East.
And these companies were all ultimately identified to be associated with major players in Hezbollah who were working in conjunction with the Colombian drug cartels and I'm not going to interrupt you.
Let me ask you a quick question if you don't mind.
Listen, you know, you speak about the Federalist Paul.
Excuse me, we're going to a commercial.
I can't wait to get you back after this commercial, Bob.
Just hang tight, fella, and I can't wait to get you back on it.
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All right, folks, I'm basically just truly a glorified host with regards to this interview.
Basically, my role tonight is to bring you in and out of breaks this hour because Eddie the Bombardier Miller is the one who has done all the research into crafting this encore interview with the great Bob Mazer.
And if you're enjoying what you're hearing from former DEA agent Bob Maser so far tonight, don't forget there's more of Bob in the broadcast archives.
Go back to the program dated June 2nd of this year.
And folks, that was truly one of the most remarkable interviews in the entire series, spanning eight years of this award-winning broadcast.
But more to come this evening.
But don't forget a movie, a major Hollywood movie, most likely in the works, featuring the life and times of the man who lived it, the man who is on our program this evening, Bob Mazer.
And with that, Eddie, back over to you.
Okay.
And Bob, I don't want to interrupt you too much.
We've got about, James said, we've got to let you go at 8.45.
Well, that'll be 9.45 Eastern.
But I just want to ask you a few questions, a question or two.
And I want to ask you not to forget, maybe, to let the audience know where a lot of this dirty money is coming from, from the drug gangs, from places like North Korea, from Iraq, rogue states that we're supposed to be enemies with.
And maybe if you can work that in, I'm just going to ask you your opinion, Bob.
You mentioned the Federal Reserve a minute ago.
In your opinion, how much, if any, foreknowledge of this corruption did the Federal Reserve know about?
Well, in my view, there definitely are people within the Federal Reserve who should have decades ago recognized that the repatriation of U.S. currency from critical locations such as Colombia and the Middle East certainly had to be associated with the underground empire of criminal activity.
I addressed in my book a scene where I was with one of the senior managers of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International.
That was at the time the seventh largest privately held bank in the world.
They had locations in 72 countries throughout the world.
They had more than 15,000 employees.
And they were very, very vigorously involved in soliciting money from the underworld.
They knew exactly where the drug proceeds were being generated and they went right after it to try to increase the deposits that were made to the bank.
And as I was in a social club at about 2 o'clock or so in the morning with one of these senior bank officials, he said to me, you know, do you know who the biggest money launderer in the United States is?
And I, you know, as a very young and aggressive agent at the time, you know, my mind stood up and I was waiting to hear when I was going to be able to come back with the best case in the world.
And he said, well, of course it's the Federal Reserve.
And I said, well, how do you what do you mean the Federal Reserve?
That doesn't make any sense.
He said, well, sure it does.
Don't you realize that the central bank in Colombia, the Bank of the Republic, that's their equivalent of the Federal Reserve, repatriates into the United States literally tens of billions of dollars a month.
And don't you think that someone at the Federal Reserve, because that's who the central banks maintain, central banks around the world and many other member banks maintain relationships with the Federal Reserve and they repatriate U.S. dollar currencies back in.
And the Bank of the Republic was sending in untold amounts.
He said, don't you think that they know that there is, in fact, and at the time there was, your listeners can Google this and they can find it.
It used to be called the anonymous window or the sinister window at the Bank of the Republic in Colombia.
And you could bring as many dollars as you wanted and could anonymously exchange it for Colombian pesos.
And of course, that left them with literally container loads of cash that needed to be brought back to the United States to be deposited with the Federal Reserve to increase the bank balances of the central bank in Colombia.
And his argument to me was, don't you think that there's someone there who realizes that this outrageously abnormal amount of cash that's coming back from Colombia must be related to the drug trade?
What else could it possibly be related to?
And they accept this money openly and continuously.
And really, that's what happens today, and that's what you see in the HSBC case.
Do you realize that HSBC, based upon the Senate subcommittee's report, was repatriating $300 billion a year in U.S. currency back into the United States?
And if you focus strictly on the areas that are very, very well known to be the collection points of drug proceeds, drug cash U.S. dollars, Mexico, many nations in North Africa, because that's where that's North Africa, the nations of North Africa, are really the Mexico of the Colombian cartel's distributions of cocaine into Europe.
So between North Africa and Mexico and certain other key countries like Guatemala and Honduras, that's where most of the U.S. currency picked up.
Well, Mexico, Guatemala, and Honduras is where most of the currency that's picked up in the United States.
And I used to do this in an undercover capacity.
We used to receive a million, two million dollars a day in various cities, and that was expected to be laundered in the way that it's done now is it's most often smuggled across the very poorest border we have to our south and taken into nations and then propped up in businesses like houses of exchange, where they call them, cases de cambio in Mexico, and made to look legal, and then they bring the money back into the United States.
So now we have, with respect to HSBC, in those centers alone, $40 billion a year being collected, and their profits on that are roughly $160 million.
All of this is spelled out in the 300-plus page report, not just as it relates to the bulk currency business, but also other types of services that were being provided by HSBC, identical to the types of private client division services that were being provided to me when I was in an undercover capacity infiltrating the Medellin Cartel and the Bank of Credit and Commerce International.
So it's pretty frustrating because I think that had the Federal Reserve had an interest not so much in the profits but more in the The benefit of the Americans and the citizens of this country, there might have been a freer flow of information with respect to this bulk currency repatriation.
I've been beating the drum for years trying to get people to focus on that.
After my article appeared in the New York Times, I got calls from several Senate subcommittees inquiring about it and how I would suggest that they go about doing it.
And I'm very, very proud internally of the fact that some of those very same legal counsel within those Senate subcommittees that inquired about it have been involved in the HSBC investigation and others where they now are focusing on that.
I think it's an extremely important piece to identify which institutions and which businesses around the world are catering to the drug cartels.
Well, Bob, let me interrupt you just for one second.
First of all, I would like to say I too, and I'm not saying this lightly, I too am extremely proud of you.
I'm extremely proud having you on our program here.
I know of no higher caliber guest we've ever had.
And I'll also chime in to say that only by the grace of God Almighty are you still alive talking to us because I know, I'm not telling you anything you don't know.
There have been scores of people murdered for doing less than just writing about what you have done.
And one of the people that comes to mind is this Gary Webb.
You may or may not be aware of him.
I'm going to ask you a question about him.
He was one of the lead reporters of the San Diego Mercury Star, and he published a series of articles called Dark Alliance, the CIA's affiliation with the Bloods in the Crypts in Los Angeles, California.
And that leads me to the question I'm going to ask you, Bob.
In your opinion, do you think that we have a lot of people?
Hey, we've got to go to another break.
I hate to go to this break, Bob.
Hang on.
I want to ask you this question when we come back.
Man, you're a dynamite guest.
So we're going to a break, Bob.
I know.
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is truly one of those nights that you just don't want the radio show to come to an end.
But alas, all good things must.
We do have one final segment with the amazing Robert Mazer, and I want to give you this website.
I want you to remember it.
And more importantly than that, I want you to visit it frequently.
The-infiltrator.com, The Infiltrator, the-Infiltrator.com.
There you can learn more about the book and learn more about Robert Mazor's secret life inside the dirty banks behind Pablo Escobar's cartel.
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Eddie, one final segment with Bob Mazor tonight, at least.
I'll turn it back over to you, my friend.
And before I get back to the business, Bob, I would just like to tell you once again, not to kick a dead horse, but I just can't tell you how honored I am to have you on this show.
I can tell people I'm a really good character judge.
And Bob, I consider you a sterling citizen.
You've got more guts than anybody I can imagine.
I could not imagine working under the situations that you worked in.
I would have got caught there being nervous.
And I'd also like to say I hope you and your wife had a nice end.
I think you had a nice, had an anniversary not too long ago.
I hope you enjoyed that.
Yeah, we did.
Anyway, with that, Bob.
I'd just like to tell people one more time.
We need to see the movie.
Bob has that great book that James is talking about, and I'm sure that movie will be dynamite.
I guarantee you, I'm going to see it.
Now, Bob, I'm going to ask this last question.
I'm going to shut up and let you go anywhere you want to go.
You've been doing a stellar bang-up job.
I'm just going to, I was getting to, from what I've read and heard from different people, there's pretty much of a government inside a government in this here United States.
We have the CIA and probably inside the CIA we have rogue elements.
I know there's good people in the CIA, for instance, like kind of a friend of a friend of ours, Bill Colby, who was the head of the CIA.
He was I feel confident he was murdered.
He was too close to the Senator John de Camp in his investigation involved, like with the book he wrote with the Franklin cover-up.
But in your opinion, how much knowledge does the CIA have?
Did they have?
Did they have now?
How dirty are their hands in this drug smuggling, running interference for the banks with their dirt laundering of money?
And with those questions, I'm going to shut up, Bob.
And you carry it off now to the finish line, fella.
Okay.
Well, the funny thing that I think I experienced working as an undercover agent and being within the drug world and dealing with the international banks is that I came to see the corrupt segments of the international banking community to be somewhat of a crossroads.
It was a crossroads that met the highest levels of the international leaders of the international drug trade, but also corrupt politicians and also, unfortunately, the intelligence communities of the world.
My financial advisor at the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, the man who openly knew that the funds that I was dealing with were the billions of dollars generated by the Medellin cartel, was also the financial advisor for Manuel Noriega and was helping him to launder the $50-plus million dollars in currency that Noriega received for paying,
for basically allowing the cartel to use Panama as a crossroads for the distribution of their drugs and for the laundering of their money.
But not only was that intelligence community, because he was a CIA resource, Manuel Noriega, but not only was that intelligence angle there, but that particular bank officer, his name was Amjad Awan, his father was the head of the ISI in Pakistan.
And the ownership of the bank included one of its major shareholders was the former head of Saudi intelligence.
And as I sat in meetings and recorded conversations, Amjad Awan admitted to me that he was the paymaster for the CIA of the funds that were filtered to the Mujahideen at the time in their efforts to fight the invasion of the Russians into Afghanistan.
So there's absolutely no doubt that, at least from my personal experience, that the intelligence communities exploit the same corrupt bankers that the drug world also exploits.
And the Bank of Credit and Commerce International itself was a vehicle for the development of profits that were then filtered to the ISI to promote what's called their black ops,
which would be their intelligence operations that were funded privately from other sources than official government sources to be able to do things that governments cannot afford to endorse.
So yeah, there is unfortunately a very, very, I think, tangled web between the intelligence community and the drug world when it comes to the exploiting of profits and using it for their goals.
And there's no doubt in my mind that with respect to some of the people within the intelligence community, that's really kind of their view is the end justify the means to try to accomplish those things.
But I don't think we can or should operate as a democracy with that type of mentality of allowing a government within a government so that, I mean, I would hope that those and I think this is true with respect to most of the public servants who work within the CIA and for U.S. intelligence agencies.
I think that they embraced the same feeling that I did, which was that, hey, I want to be a part of making a difference.
And making a difference for me was to be as close to being in the trenches as I possibly could and getting as close to the highest level bad guys that I could possibly get myself close to so that I could feed that information back to law enforcement and enable them to prosecute individuals.
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It never bothered me what color my badge was or what style my badge was.
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And that's where I had my allegiance.
My allegiance was to be able to look my neighbors, my friends, or strangers in the face in this country and say, you know what, I did the best I could possibly do for you today.
Well, Pop, that begs the question.
What you just told me, and I hope I'm not interrupting you, but you've got me, I'm really excited about this.
Let me ask you this question here.
Now, and I know you are a good guy.
I know that probably most of the people in the intelligence communities are good.
Did you ever feel like your investigations were compromised?
Or do you ever feel like that your life was put in danger because of people that had gone rogue, people that had become bad cops, so to speak?
Well, no doubt.
After the undercover operation that I addressed in the book, that was the first real two years of long-term undercover that I did.
I went back after that, I prepared for trials for two years.
I testified around the world for two years, and then I was recruited by the Drug Enforcement Administration to go back undercover, and I went back undercover for another two and a half years.
Someday maybe I'll write a book about that.
But when I went back undercover for that next two and a half years, the agent who was assigned to work with me, little did I know, was at the time that he was put with me, although he had gotten some of the highest awards that anyone could.
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And he almost got me killed in that other operation.
I worked undercover around the world and including in Colombia.
And little did I know he had outed me.
And some of the people that I was attempting to meet with in Colombia who probably, if they could have gotten their hands on me, would have kidnapped me, would have probably ended my government career.
So, you know, unfortunately, those things do happen.
But I like to think that there are more individual rogue things than they are master plan rogue things that happen because of a mentality amongst a large group.
think that they're more likely a situation where it's an individual or a couple of individuals who lose their moral compass and wind up endangering the lives of others.
You know, Bob, with that, you know, I would just, I would just like to also throw something in there.
Everybody see how much time we're getting close to the end, but I was going to ask you, tell you, or just throw this out.
You had to work.
Oh, God.
We're getting ready to go to another commercial break, Bob.
I don't know how much time we're going to have, but I'm hoping and prayer we can get you back on before too much longer.
And thank you.
Thank you, Lord.
If you ever need me, Bob, I think you have my private number.
If you don't, I'll send you an email.
And with it, you call me anytime, day or night.
With that, we've got to go to a break.
Great Bob Mazer, everybody.
Check him out, B-Infiltrator.com.
We'll be talking more about Bob after this break.
Thank you.
Thank you, Bob.
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Ladies and gentlemen, I want you to allow you to let sink in what you just heard.
I mean, ladies and gentlemen, Robert Mazor, former DEA agent, part of the biggest, according to FBI, former FBI director Robert Mueller, biggest undercover operation in law enforcement history.
I mean, this guy was the kingpin of it, Robert Mazer.
On our show, for the second time, a movie is being made about his true life story, and he pulled no punch tonight.
And as Eddie the Bombardier Miller would say, we've been doing this for eight years.
I mean, as far as Eddie's concerned, in his capacity as a co-host, this was the dream interview for Eddie Miller.
I'm telling you what, James, people, you people that are tuned into the political cesspool tonight, what you heard Bob Mazor say in all of his experience as a DEA agent, all the interviews he's had, what he told you tonight and told us is the first time that's ever come out of his mouth.
The information that he voluntarily, you know, even I questioned him, and he voluntarily told us, yes, people, the Federal Reserve is filthy, rotten, and dirty.
I'm just, that's my words.
The Federal Reserve knows all about the drug money.
All these banks, let me just read you just a few banks that have been implicated.
Besides HSBC, the largest bank in Europe, J.P. Morgan Chase, Goldman Sox, Barclays of England, Bear Stearns, New York, of course, the New York Federal Reserve, Bernard Madoff was in there.
He was just, see, Bernard Madoff was just a little Patsy Fall guy.
Timothy Geithner, Wachova Bank, Wells Fargo, and the person I have a personal hate on for, American Express.
All these people have been involved in this crap.
And if we'd had time, I would like to ask Bob Mazor how it felt to know he's working for people like Eric Holder, who he is the Attorney General of the United States.
Eric Holder, who's recently been caught personally, along with his boss Obama, their full knowledge and their full instigation of smuggling of the guns across the Mexican border and smuggling the drugs back across the Mexican border into the United States.
And we're talking about semi-tracker trailer loads of drugs and arms people.
We're not talking about a gun here or there.
And they did it for multiple purposes.
One of the main purposes that they got the guns across the smuggled into Mexico was to make the Second Amendment look bad, to show all these murders on TV and the newspapers and tell people, look, we've got to get rid of the Second Amendment.
We've got to do away with these guns.
Look at all the crime it's causing.
And that was the whole reason.
Listen, this Eric Holder guy, I'll show you how dirty he was.
People, when Eric Holder, the guy who's ahead, he's the District Attorney of the United States right now, that's people that Bob's have to work against.
Listen, he was instrumental.
Eric Holder, when he was the Deputy Attorney General of the United States, he is the one that ordered the FBI to give the dynamite to Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols to blow up the Murrow Trade Center building.
And really and truly, the main charges were placed way before Timothy McVeigh even got there.
He was just a fall guy, Patsy.
If we had about 15,000 more hours, we could go into in depth about how the Murrow Trade Center building was blown.
But the point I'm trying to make is, these are the people running our country, people.
The Eric Holders of the world, the Obamas.
They're cold-blooded, stone-cold killers.
They are corrupt to the very core.
If you want to talk about a Satan worshiper, I mean, you could do no better than to talk about these people.
I mean, let me tell you something else.
You know why they picked Oklahoma City?
They picked it.
It came down to Phoenix, Arizona, federal building in Oklahoma City.
They picked Oklahoma City.
This is how evil these people are, people.
They picked Oklahoma City because it had a large nursery there.
And they wanted baby parks to be splattered all over the TV to whip the American people into a frenzy against the Patriot community and the evangelical Christians.
With that, folks, I'm going to turn you.
I'm kind of hot right now.
I'm going to turn you over to James right now.
We'll take a shower.
Eddie, he's going to go take a shower and take his blood pressure medicine.
He knows he's not allowed to cuss on the air, so we got to pull him before he gets out of hand here.
But no, Eddie, I tell you, you brought up the Oklahoma City story.
You would have loved.
I know you were traveling over here tonight, and you, unlike everybody else in Memphis, weren't tuned into the show on the way over.
Yeah, right.
But the guy that came on, he was the author in the second hour of a book entitled Everything They Ever Told Me Was a Lie.
And he was talking about it.
He said, you know, have y'all ever heard of Senator John DeCamp?
And I was like, oh, man, you got to be kidding me.
And he was talking about Oklahoma City, and he mentioned Stanley Monteith, Pat Shannon.
Tell them who got involved with that.
Well, you know, so listen, you've got to listen to that in the archives, as everyone could do.
Ben, do we have Pete Stanton on the line yet?
Okay.
He said he was trying to call in.
And folks, you'll have to forgive me for having a conversation with my producer here.
I know you can only hear one end of it.
But our correspondent, Pete Stanton, allegedly, according to his text message to me, was trying to call in.
But apparently, well, we don't know what's going on.
But that gives us more time to talk to Eddie the Bombardier Miller tonight, who is basking in the glow of an interview with a man.
Listen, I mean, folks, this is no small fish.
And, of course, in this radio program, we're not used to frying small fish.
We like, you know, the 20-pound mudcats.
Nevertheless, Robert Mazer, an absolutely outstanding guest.
I don't want, I say it at the, as I say so often, I say it at the risk of sounding repetitious, but this is an extremely important man, an extremely big player who has now made two appearances on this show in as many months.
So that cannot be discounted.
And you know, James, I'd like to just, I know, and I know, I've been knowing about this stuff for years.
I still can't, it's different when you know about it and you have somebody like a DEA agent tell you.
People, just to say it one more time, the Federal Reserve is dirty.
The CIA is dirty.
We have a government.
We have a government inside of government in this country.
We no longer have a government of the people's, you know, the representatives that represent the people.
We've lost total control of this country.
And at a federal level, I see no hope of getting it back.
They're just too big and too powerful and too rich.
I mean, they have trillions of dollars to work against our 50 cents a day coming into the cesspool.
I mean, we can't compete with that money-wise.
I think the only way we can get our country back is the same way Mazor survived all those years by the grace of God.
And I'm not trying to sound too religious, but with people, we need to hit our knees and pray for our country, pray for ourselves, because that's the only way we're going to get it back.
I mean, you know, how are we going to compete against somebody like the Federal Reserve?
I mean, they have all the money in the world.
For God's sakes, they print the money.
But people, that's the kind of government we have.
And listen, contrary to what some of the other people say, and I differ with even some co-hosts on this.
You've got to get off this Republican and Democratic paradigm, false paradigm.
You've got to get across, I don't know to contradict anybody, but the liberals and conservatives.
I mean, is it a liberal or conservative that smuggles drugs across the Mexican borders of the United States?
Is it a liberal or conservative that smuggles the weapons across?
It was a liberal conservative that kills thousands and thousands of people down on the Mexican border every year because of these drugs.
They come into the United States and kill American citizens.
American ranchers and citizens are having to leave the Arizona and Texas borders en masse because they're being murdered and killed.
They've lost control of their country, their farms down there they've had for generations.
And the United States government, not only is the United States government not helping them, folks, get this.
Our illustrious president, the alien-in-chief, he just pulled the Border Patrol back away from the border people.
Do you think maybe if you were going to rob a liquor store and you had the power to pull the Memphis, say, Jimmy and James go down and rob the liquor store down here, we'd say, we're going to call the mayor and say, look, I want you to pull the police out of Bartland tonight because we want to go down here and rob a liquor store.
That's what it is.
He doesn't want the Border Patrol down there.
He doesn't want Marshalls.
He wants to be able to go down there and do his dirty little criminal shenanigans unencumbered.
And I make a prediction right here.
Eric Hohler is going to skate.
He knows he's going to skate.
He got away with murdering 168 people in the Murrow Trade Center building in Oklahoma City in 1995.
He's going to get away with murdering these thousands and thousands of people down here in Mexico.
And to come back to the point that Bob Mazor made, and the reason he's going to do it is because most of the Senate and the Congress, probably I'd say 80% of them, and if they don't like it, tough, they are corrupted by the drug money.
The biggest contributions they have come from these banks, and the banks get it from the drug money.
You take a look at the Clintons, that's where the Clintons got all their money.
They got money from, you know, when they had the big drug operation going on over MENA, Arkansas with him and Poppy Bush.
You know, Poppy, aka, because he deals in the Poppies.
When Poppy Bush was the director of the CIA, he was responsible for bringing in just tons and tons and tons of drugs from Afghanistan, you know, Pakistan, and Vietnam.
I don't think he was a CIA agent in Vietnam, but he was an old dude by that time.
I mean, it's been going on forever, folks.
And it's not going to stop until we stop it ourselves.
And with that, folks, I think we're just about to run out of time right here.
So I'm going to turn you back over to my little buddy boy, my little son, James Edwards.
Well, thank you, Eddie.
I know that was therapeutic for you to get all that off your chest.
And anyway, hey, I want to give everybody a quick update.
Got a call from Keith during the commercial break.
His son is being discharged.
You didn't know that Keith's son was in the hospital tonight.
Eddie gets in late and gets his news with the rest of you here on the Cesspool.
But no, everything's fine.
He has been discharged now after a boating accident.
And so there you have it.
So Keith will be back and in full force next week.
So thank God prayers answered and tragedy averted there.
Absolutely.
And so anyway, with that being said, ladies and gentlemen, we're just about out of time tonight, but what a great week.
What a great night here in the Political Cessible.
I want to thank our guests, Pat Shannon, who will be back with us next week.
And of course, Bob Mazer, former DEA agent for Eddie, the Bob Madier Miller, Bill Rowland, Keith Alexander, and the rest of the crew here in Memphis and our network in Utah.
I'm James Edwards.
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