June 2, 2012 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Welcome to the Political Cesspool, known worldwide as the South's foremost populous radio program.
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All right, everybody, welcome back to the Political Cesspool radio program, third and final hour of tonight's live broadcast of our award-winning show.
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Joining me in the studio now is Eddie the Bombardier Miller, my loyal co-host for many years now.
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It's been a great show so far, but we've saved the best for last.
We have now on the line with us a gentleman who Eddie the Bombardier Miller and I are both very excited to bring to the audience this evening.
This is an interview that's been about three months in the making.
Eddie has been researching the facts and digging up different data.
Ladies and gentlemen, our guest tonight is Robert Mazer.
He's a former DEA agent and author of a book that I want everyone listening to the show tonight to go out and buy.
It's entitled The Infiltrator, My Secret Life Inside the Dirty Banks Behind Pablo Escobar's Medellin Cartel.
And let me just give you a little more background information before we bring on Mr. Mazer.
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Mr. Mazer, it's great to have a man of your credential on the program tonight.
Well, thank you very much for inviting me.
Again, ladies and gentlemen, we're going to be promoting his book throughout the broadcast.
But with that and the introduction now behind us, I want to turn this over to the man who brought Mr. Maz to the table tonight, Eddie the Bombardier Miller.
Well, thank you very much.
Well, how do you do there, Mr. Bob?
How you doing?
I'm doing great, thank you.
I'll tell you what, I've really been excited about getting you on the radio, getting this interview.
Like I said, we've been following it for quite some time.
I wanted to get you on a lot earlier than this.
We discussed you, I guess, about five weeks ago in Nashville with the owner of the network, with Sam Bushman.
He was equally anxious.
I'd like to ask you, how long ago has it been since you were a DAA agent?
Well, I retired in 1998 as an active agent, but since that time, I've continued to be involved in training and also working with DEA and other agencies with respect to, and intelligence agencies with respect to threat analysis around the globe and how to possibly address some of the newer emerging threats that we've had.
And I've been involved in this since the 1970s and continue to be involved in it today.
Mr. Baser, we're going to be, of course, digging deep into your book during this hour, encouraging folks to go out and buy it because it's a book that we certainly heartily endorse.
But when you're talking about Pablo Escobar, I mean, that is, when you think about South American drug trade, that is the name synonymous with it.
That would have to be the kingpin.
And at the title of your book suggests, you were an infiltrator behind this infamous cartel.
We have just a few minutes before our first break, and then again, we're going to get into this in a little more detail.
If you just had a couple of minutes to kind of encapsulate what you experienced, what would you tell the audience?
Well, I got the opportunity after about 14 years of working on international drug trafficking and money laundering cases to volunteer as a long-term undercover agent.
And I did.
I went through undercover schools, and that's a process that I was very blessed with the leadership and the mentoring of some of the best undercover agents who worked in this field before me, including the likes of Joe Pistone, who the book and movie Donnie Brasco was.
Right, Johnny Depp, yes, absolutely.
Played the character.
Sure did.
And psychologists are involved in that as well, because if we get the opportunity to talk during this hour, it's an unusual pressure cooker to live a double life for years on end.
And after going through the undercover schools, I then spent about a year and a half putting together, I think, one of the more sophisticated fronts that a long-term undercover has used.
My responsibility was to play the role of a mob-connected money launderer, a corrupt businessman from the Northeast.
And I had a lot of tools at my use.
After coming out, I had a completely new identity, and I was embedded in some active businesses, a finance company in Florida, a mortgage brokerage business, had an air charter service with a private jet that ran from Florida to the Bahamas, a jewelry chain with about 70 locations on the East Coast, and even a brokerage firm with a seat on the New York Stock Exchange.
So I didn't have to be the very best undercover agent.
I had a lot, a lot of support.
I had a great team that I worked with.
And I also had two informants within one of the five Italian-American crime families in New York, all of whom provided me with my bona fides that enabled me to climb for a period of about two years within the Medellin cartel to a kind of a senior position handling money laundering affairs for them.
And I became ultimately a conduit for them to what was then the seventh largest privately held bank in the world, a bank called the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, BCCI.
They had locations in 72 countries and more than 15,000 employees.
And I dealt with the senior management of the bank that was very actively and knowingly involved in soliciting drug money, as unfortunately is the case in not just the Bank of Credit and Commerce International, in the international banking world.
And I dealt with some of the people who were reporting directly to Pablo Escobar, including his senior consiglier, an attorney by the name of Santiago Ulribe, who was to the rest of the world a professor at the University of Medellin, a practicing lawyer and a person who had a lot of influence in the Colombian legislature.
But in reality, he was a mastermind of money laundering activities working with Pablo Escobar.
And in meetings with him and others who reported to Escobar and other members of the cartel, he would at times issue the order of the death of people before me.
So I dealt with both the very, very drug-related side as well as the more sophisticated money laundering side.
And I hoped to bring to the public the story about what it's like to live in that world while still trying to keep your normal life alive.
Already mesmerized by the scope of this story, they say, of course, Eddie and Bob, that the unexamined life is not worth living.
Obviously, our guest has nothing to worry about with regards to that adage.
But folks, again, the book, The Infiltrator, My Secret Life Inside the Dirty Banks Behind Pablo Escobar's Medellin Cartel, we have not just the author of the book, but the man who lived to tell the tale.
Former DEA agent Robert Mazer, he's our guest for the entire third hour tonight.
I guess so big he dominates the entire hour.
Eddie, the Bob and your Miller are responsible for bringing him to the show tonight, and we're thankful for both Eddie and Bob for making it happen.
I know, Eddie, you have a lot of questions for our guests.
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All right, thank you, Frankie Valli.
And welcome back to the show, everybody.
James Edwards, Eddie the Bombardier Miller here tonight on the Liberty News Radio Network.
And our esteemed guest this evening, Robert Mazer, author, as we've been mentioning, of The Infiltrator, My Secret Life Inside the Dirty Banks Behind Pablo Escobar's Medellin Cartel.
I'll tell you a little bit more about our guest, Bob Maser.
In addition to being the author of this great book, he is a forensic investigator.
He brought down the seventh largest privately held bank, the BCCI, the Bank of Credit and Commerce International.
Obviously, as we've been talking about, he infiltrated the very infamous and violent Medellin cartel, and he is the president of Chase and Associates, which is an investigative agency that services law firms and corporations throughout the U.S. Just a little bit more background information about our guest tonight.
Bob, talking about the book, I'm going to ask you two questions, then I'm turning it over to my colleague Eddie.
What prompted you to write the book and deem it necessary to write the book to share with the world the behind the scenes of your exploits?
And of course, the most important question, where can people obtain a copy of it?
Well, the best place to obtain information about the book is on the website for the book, which is the-infiltrator.com.
That's the hypheninfiltrator.com.
And you'll be able to appreciate what I now say because this kind of information is on there.
Not only the connections to where to buy it, Amazon.com and the others that offer it.
But, you know, the reason that I decided ultimately, and actually I made this decision with my wife, who supported me through all of this, and without her, I wouldn't be speaking with you today.
This is a very unusual experience for a human being to go through.
To live a double life, to leave your family for years on end.
If it wasn't for her, I know I would not have survived that.
But this is a story that I think that very few people on this planet can share with the rest of the world.
I know that Joe Pistone experienced the same type of thing living within the Italian-American organized crime groups for years.
But there's probably, you know, you can count them on one hand, the number of people who have had the privilege of being able to serve the American public and work in this field and to get to this level.
And I didn't get to that level because of me.
I mean, I got there because there were probably at the heist of the operation, you know, 200 people behind the scenes who were helping to keep me and my partner alive, working not just in the United States, but four or five other countries as we went around the globe working undercover.
And I don't think that the world really, you know, the people who work so hard every day to provide for their families and to live life, really get to hear from someone like them, which I hope I am, and share with them what it's like to try to do this.
Not just from the standpoint of getting to understand better, I think, what the underworld is like, what the people within the Medellin cartel are like firsthand, and what the international banking community, I think,
on a more regular basis than I'd like to see, are involved in supporting them, but also what that can be like for them if they should try to or want to make this type of sacrifice to serve.
You know, I was a little bit different, I think, than some of, and not to say in a good or a bad way, but I was a little bit different in my thinking, I think, than some of my former colleagues in the government.
I never thought that I, you know, I was in three federal agencies, and it never bothered me about what color my badge was or what agency I worked for.
I really felt as though I worked for the people.
That's who I serve.
I should do the best that I can every day to be able to look my family and my friends and my neighbors in the face and say, you know, I did the best I possibly could for you today.
That's really what it's about to be a public servant.
And so I think it's important to share that thinking.
I got a lot of that from my mom and dad who also serve the public.
And so I'm hoping that the story itself will not only inform people about this world, but will inspire, hopefully, some of the younger generation to consider serving in this capacity.
Because you can make a difference.
We always hear, and some people think that it's maybe just a phrase to say that, you know, each of us can make a difference.
But I can tell you from my life, I feel as though the 27 years that I spent as a federal agent, I feel as though that I was a part of making a difference.
And that's what I really wanted to be able to do in order to serve in that capacity.
And each one of our voices can make a difference if we really dedicate ourselves to this type of thing.
Sometimes we lose sight of that.
Sometimes I think the younger generation feel like they can't personally make a difference, but they can.
They truly can.
And so that's really what inspired me to try to share the story.
It was a sensitive thing for us to do, and I couldn't make that decision myself to go out on this platform and try to tell the story.
But my wife felt it was important too.
And so together, we just decided to do it.
And that's where we are today.
Well, Bob, I tell you what, you're talking to a man right here that has preached.
I preach to people that one man can make a difference.
And one of the things we've covered here, talked about many times on this show, is that during the First War of Independence against the bloody British, I've been told that, conservatively speaking, there was only about 3% of the colonists actually fought against the British.
And most of the people, you know, either there was a lot of people fighting against the Patriots.
A lot of people didn't care, you know, but a very small minority made the difference.
And, you know, if God is with you, that's all you need.
That's shown all through the Old Testament.
But, you know, I'd like to ask you another question.
You know, first of all, let me tell you, you sound, you don't sound anything like I thought you would sound.
I thought you would sound kind of like this, you know, this NFL linebacker, you know, but you're so eloquent.
You could pass for a Baptist minister or, you know, or a lawyer or something.
You know, I was looking for somebody coming in with the guns blazing.
You know, someone who infiltrated all these drug gangs.
If you had to – you may not know this, but about how much money do you think is involved that these cartels generate?
And how much political – do you cover – in your book, do you cover the amount of money that's estimated that they bring in and what they do with this money as far as by political influence in the United States, not only in the United States but around the world?
Well, yes, I do.
I address it quite a bit.
And I would say I concur with the most recent studies, and they've been consistent over the years.
But the UN put out in October of 2011, so your listeners can Google that.
I think it's UNDOC, no, UNODC.
It's either UNDOC or UNODC in October 2011.
And you'll find their studies about the underground economy.
And they identify the amount of money laundered per year or the amount of money from the underworld to be roughly about $2.1 trillion a year.
And of that, between $400 and $500 billion comes from the sale of illegal drugs around the globe.
So it's huge.
Wow.
It's very, very huge money.
And I'm ashamed to say that $65 billion a year, roughly, is estimated to be the gross receipts from the sale of illegal drugs in the United States.
We have the unfortunate political reputation of being the largest consumers of illegal drugs.
Bob, I want to ask you to hold it right there, my friend.
We're going to come back and allow you to continue to elaborate on that point, but we've got to take a hard break and be back with more fascinating interview tonight.
Stay tuned, folks.
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You know, Eddie, we were talking about during the break, some of the luminaries we've had on this show, and of course, far too many to mention in the time we have left.
I can recall, it seems as though it wasn't that long ago at all, General Hal Moore, Harold G. Moore, the Vietnam hero.
Mel Gibson played his character in the movie We Were Soldiers.
He was a guest on this program not too long ago.
Obviously, Pat Buchanan, a repeat guest.
You know, I put our guests right now on the level of all of those who have come and shared with us the stage here on the Political Cesspool.
Very, very delighted to have Robert Mazer as our guest this evening.
And he's lived a life that few can relate to.
And we're talking about it tonight.
He, of course, tells the tale in his book, which you can get.
I want you to remember a single website, ladies and gentlemen, the-com, the-infiltrator.com.
And Eddie, obviously, Bob was in the process of answering a question right before the commercial break.
Can you propose to the audience what you asked, and then we'll let Robert pick up where he left off?
Be glad to be very happy to.
I was asking our guest about how much money the drug games generation generated, and Mr. Mazor was getting into that.
And I'd also ask if he has any knowledge as to how much of this drug money is used to buy political influence.
For instance, I was just an example.
I'm almost sure that President Bill Clinton received a lot of money from the drug cartels and all through his political life, you know, going all the way back to Maine, Arkansas.
We'll cover that on another show.
But I would like to ask you, Bob, if you have any knowledge of how much this money has been used to buy political influence in this nation and around the world.
Well, there's no doubt, and you can look at the methodology of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International.
And I saw it firsthand.
I heard it directly from the people in the boardroom, and I got it on tape.
The 1,200 or so recordings that my partner and I made in this undercover operation are unequivocal proof.
It's not our interpretation of who said what.
It's right there, and I offered in my book in quotes.
I did a Freedom of Information Act request to the government, and after 18 months, finally got the tapes and the transcripts that were actually public records.
I'm very confused about why it took that long, but it did.
But I ultimately was able to get those.
And what I knew and what those transcripts and tapes confirm is that there was, within that bank, there was part of their theory was to, in each and every country that they went into, to ingratiate themselves upon the most influential political figures in the country to get favors as they needed them as they went along.
And they did that in many, many countries.
The gentleman who was my financial advisor within the Bank of Credit and Commerce International was a fellow by the name of Amjadawan.
His father was previously the head of the ISI, which is the equivalent of the CIA in Pakistan.
His clientele included General Manuel Noriega in Panama, included President Zia of Pakistan before he was assassinated.
The leadership of the bank included the former head of Saudi intelligence.
The bank itself ingratiated themselves on a number of political figures within the United States.
They very vigorously won over the favors of Clark Clifford, who was the, in their words, to me, on tape, godfather of the Democratic Party, who they installed as the CEO of a bank that they surreptitiously owned called First American Bank in the United States.
Burt Lance, Andrew Young, many politicians within the United States who they did business with very closely.
They did that type of activity around the world.
And when you turn to the drug organizations, you know, I was dealing within the Medellin Cartel.
They bought in Colombia the loyalty of the entire legislature in Colombia.
The gentleman I dealt directly with, who was the consigliary to Pablo Escobar, Mr. Santiago Uribe, a lawyer, was the author of the non-extradition law of Panama that prevented the U.S. during that timeframe from extraditing Pablo Escobar or any of the other major cartel members.
Pablo Escobar was so concerned about his control of the legislature of Colombia that when one presidential candidate who made it part of his platform that he would end the non-extradition law was thought to be on a commercial flight, he caused that plane with more than 100 people, innocent people, commercial flight, to be blown up from 20,000 feet up.
That candidate was not on the flight, but that didn't stop Escobar from attempting to assassinate him.
They killed judges, the people who I dealt with.
Eventually, there were searches that were done at the farms in Colombia, controlled by the people I dealt directly with, and letters were recovered there from Pablo Escobar thanking Santiago Uribe for my contact, for his involvement in the assassination of judges and reporters.
So they are very, very attuned to and try as part of their methodology to undermine democracies.
That's exactly what we see today in Mexico.
We don't hear it as much in other nations, but it's happening in other nations as well.
In North Africa, there are many, many countries in North Africa which collectively are the Mexico of the Colombian routes into Europe for the distribution of drugs.
We hear it more from Mexico, and we see it every day because of the many, many assassinations that have occurred there, including the one just in the last two weeks involving the 49 people whose heads were chopped off, feet and hands, to try to make it impossible to identify who they were.
You know, these people, in all likelihood, in everything that I know, were more likely shop owners, migrant workers.
These were not people who were in a rival gang.
These were people who were everyday people like us who were ripped off the streets and ultimately assassinated for the purposes of creating terrorism and to create fear in the hearts of the Mexican people.
They are working vigorously to undermine the military.
I mean, we've seen just last week in Mexico four very high-ranking Army officials, a current general, two former, recently former generals, and a former lieutenant colonel, all of whom are being held now while evidence is being collected about the alleged payoffs in huge amounts that the Beltran Yeva organization, one of the seven Mexican drug cartels, were paying to them.
Out of all of this gloom and doom, I must say that there is a silver lining, in my view, because I get the opportunity to personally know and deal with people like us, public servants who are working within the law enforcement community.
And I want to give recognition to one particular unit that I work somewhat closely with and communicate with, the Drug Enforcement Administration Special Operations Division based in Virginia.
They work very, very closely with our military and with our intelligence community and our ally counterparts in law enforcement, military and intelligence community.
And they have made, and they are headed in the direction of doing what I think is so extraordinarily important in chopping off the heads of the snakes of these organizations.
They made a case.
They've made many cases in the last three or four years, but two I'd like to mention that your listeners can Google.
One very important one that they should take a look at.
The last name is Juma, J-O-U-M-A-A.
Mr. Juma is a Lebanese Colombian, and there's a huge Lebanese and Arab population within Colombia that has been very, very active in the international business and free trade zones throughout the world.
But Mr. Juma is very supportive of Hezbollah.
There is a very, very distinct connection, well defined within the indictment that was brought in the end of 2011 against Juma and his associates, whereby you can clearly see a relationship between the heads of the Mexican cartels, the Colombian cartels, and the leadership of Hezbollah, with direct ties to an institution,
a bank in Lebanon that was principally responsible for a lot of the money laundering on behalf of those organizations called the Lebanese Canadian Bank.
That is a very, very interesting story and a very scary story because it shows, as do others cases, the relationship between terrorists, terrorist organizations, and drug cartels.
Bob Mazer, our guest, ladies and gentlemen, time is going by far too quickly this evening.
We have one segment left with him.
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Welcome back to the show, the final segment of tonight's live broadcast, ladies and gentlemen.
And it's been such a pleasure to have on the air with us tonight Robert Bob Mazer, former DEA agent and, of course, the author of the book we've been talking about all hour, The Infiltrator, My Secret Life and Said the Dirty Banks Behind Pablo Escobar's cartel, the-infiltrator.com, where you can get more information about the book.
Of course, you can go to any online marketplace, in addition to find our bookstores, and get this title.
That being said, Eddie, again, the sand is rapidly falling from the hourglass.
Only a few minutes left, as it always does.
Yes, indeed.
A few minutes left.
Eddie, back over to you.
Bob, before I forget, though, to say, I want to really thank you for coming on because I know we talked on the internet a little bit and you didn't want to come on this length of time.
And I felt guilty about that in a way, but I felt like with the ground we had to cover and with your credibility, I mean, you're a big league hitter, especially here in the cesspool.
I felt like actually a whole hour is not enough, but I just want to apologize for having you on that length of time.
I want to thank you for coming on.
And before I forget, don't let me forget, I'm going to ask you a few questions, but I want you to plug the movie that's coming out to you.
I'm really excited about the movie coming out that's based on your work.
But before we go to that movie, I would like to ask you one thing.
I'm going to name a few people that we've had on this show before.
They've been involved in work that probably not as in-depth as you are.
I've been involved in, but some of them are now dead.
And I'm going to talk about the fear factor.
I'm going to throw Andrew Beitbart out there.
I don't know if you're familiar with Andrew Breitbart.
You might not be.
Andrew Breitbart was killed and people around him, I think, because he was getting ready to release some highly explosive information, not related to the drugs, but to a political situation.
But we have had Senator John DeCamp on from Senator from Nebraska of the Franklin Cover-Up fame, who wrote a book about drugs and mainly not as much about drugs as you've talked about, but about human slavery and pedophilia, sex, selling sex kids around the world.
We've had Colonel James Bogreitz on talking about kind of like what you're talking about now, about drugs being brought in from the Iron Triangle of Vietnam, Burma, and Laos over there.
We also, John DeCamp was friends with Bill Colby.
I believe Bill Colby one time.
William Colby was head of the CIA or the FBI.
I believe he was the head of CIA.
But Bill Colby was murdered too, to the best of our knowledge.
How much, this fear, I mean, you are playing a dangerous game here, Mr. Mazor.
How much fear is in the back of your hand, your head all the time?
Well, after the undercover operation that I addressed in the book, there was a, according to the Drug Enforcement Administration and one of the intelligence agencies of the U.S., a contract on my life.
So my family, I, my wife, and my two children, who at the time were, oh, I think 11 and 13, basically went underground for years.
That was a difficult time for them because I prepared for trials for a period of about two years.
I had 1,200 transcripts that needed to be perfected and trials not just in the United States, but in other countries as well that I needed to testify in.
And after preparing for that testimony, then three years involved in trials.
Some of the trials were as long as six months at a time.
The longest trial in Tampa was six months, and I got on the witness stand in the middle of March that year.
I got off in the middle of June.
I testified every trial day for three months.
So even though the operation that took me away from my family for such a long period of time was over, I really didn't get the opportunity to get back with them and to begin to heal with them until we got through that whole, oh, I would say it was probably four or five, six, seven-year experience.
So it can be very, very, you know, and a lot of the people that I dealt with were either murdered or were incarcerated for long periods of time.
And then after they were released, they were extradited.
There's really, you know, we lived a kind of sheltered life for such a long period of time.
We almost felt as though writing this book would release us from that.
Writing this book would put all the facts in a book.
And no matter what happened after that, at least the world would know what it was all about.
And so having done that, I think it was a very healing process for me and my family.
And now I don't really, you know, I don't dwell on the issue of security.
We do take some steps from a security standpoint.
But I think that so much time has passed.
Really, the only thing that really remains is the second generation of the people with whom I dealt, some of whom are now in the drug world and the money laundering world.
But it was very important to, we felt it was very important to tell the story.
We really wanted to share it with the public.
So all in all, I think it was the right thing to do.
And all in all, I think that the threat factor is much, much less than it was after the operation was over.
Well, I'll tell you what, Bob, you know, we're all family men here, and we all have wives.
And I just want to be sure to say this, you know, because certainly our wives have to put up a lot with us talking about certain issues on the airwaves.
But obviously that pales in comparison, and that's the understatement of the century to what your family had to endure when you were out on these courageous missions.
And I want to say God bless your wife and your family for sticking with you through all that.
I mean, every good man has a great woman behind him.
And so, you know, as much as I respect you, I respect your wife that much more because I understand what that's, you know, in a minuscule, to a minuscule extent, understand what that's about and what that entails.
So, you know, God bless you and your family for that.
But, you know, we've been talking about the book, ladies and gentlemen, that Bob wrote about his exploits.
And you would think that a story this big, a book wouldn't cover it.
It would have to be a movie, too.
And we have a movie.
Bob, tell us, we have about two or three minutes left.
Tell us about the movie in addition to the book.
Sure.
The book now is in four languages, and we're hoping to be able to spread it around the world.
We were very, very fortunate that a director with some experience and reputation by the name of Brad Furman, his last major motion picture was last year, was called The Lincoln Lawyer.
With Matthew McConaughey, good movie.
Matthew McConaughey played the lead in that one.
And Brad is an up-and-coming star.
He's a young man.
He's about my son's age.
He's really a terrific director and a person who can bring people together.
And he brought a production company from the UK in to provide financing.
And we now have a screenwriter who's been working for several months and will hopefully conclude her work in the next few months on the screenplay.
And hopefully it'll be good because that's really what dictates whether or not you go from what's called the development of the movie to the production of the movie.
And if the screenplay is good enough, then that should attract the right kind of talent and we'd be off and running.
But we've got some hurdles to get over yet.
You know, you mentioned Johnny Depp.
He played Joe Pistone and Donny Brothko also played another drug-related character in the movie Blow.
You know, Johnny Depp, going to play Bob Mazer coming up?
You know, I would be honored if it was Johnny Depp, you know, if that should ever happen, because I know and consider Joe Pistone a friend.
And I know what an honor he brought to Joe's life.
And really, the movie, they did a great job on that movie.
Great movie, Al Pacino.
I mean, top quality.
Yeah, nothing could make me happier if it would have been Johnny Depp, if it'd be Johnny Depp.
Well, I'll tell you what, my friend, it's been a great honor to have you on tonight.
As Eddie mentioned, you know, an hour barely scratches the surface, which is, again, the reason, ladies and gentlemen, we want you to check out the-infiltrator.com.
Learn more about the life and times of Robert Mazer, our guest tonight, author, former DEA agent.
Listen, again, tip of the iceberg.
That's all that's been covered tonight.
Buy the book.
We're rooting for the movie.
And, Bob, my friend, thanks again.
God bless you.
And we hope to talk to you again.
Well, I'd be more than happy to.
And thank you so much to give me an opportunity to share this information with your listeners.
Hey, it's our pleasure.
And Eddie, we'd like to say goodbye to you as well as we head into that eternal good night.
Well, Bob, I would like to thank you again.
I just can't thank you enough.
I can't say enough of how much I respect you, your courage, and your obvious integrity and being a family man.
And I would like to also second what James said about your wife.
I do not know how y'all stayed together that long.
With that, my friend, I'm hoping we can have you on again and to get a few more subjects going on.
But we're just about out of time, Bob, and God bless you.
And I'll be contacting you soon.
Okay, please do.
Thank you.
Bob Mazer, everybody.
There he goes.
Great guest.
A great hour.
And Eddie, my friend, a lot of friends tonight, my friend, my friend, my friend.
No, but it is.
I mean, it always is like that here on this program because, you know, we do have a brotherly bond, not just with our listening audience and with each other, but to our guests as well.
It extends to them.
Great interview tonight.
Great guest, to say the least.
And with that, we're out of time, folks.
But remember, the hypheninfiltrator.com.
Bob Mazer.
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