March 31, 2012 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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All right, very quickly, welcome back to the show, everybody.
James Evans here live Saturday, March 31st.
We're here at our flagship station, AM 1380, WLRM Radio, downtown Memphis City, going after the AMS and Affiliate Stations of the Liberty News Radio Network.
What started off as a show limping into broadcast this evening has become a very, very busy show.
And I was trying to manage the time efficiently at the end of the first hour, but we just ran out of it and certainly wanted to give our featured guest of the first hour, my very good friend Richard Spencer, the final word on the Trayvon Martin story that he's been covering before we move on to the next guest, Kevin McDonald, who is already waiting in the Marines, the Wings.
Richard, back to you for a final word.
Sure.
Well, I guess what the last caller was talking about is that we're going to lose because, you know, the liberals don't want to talk to us and they run the media.
And I just want to say a couple of things to that effect.
I mean, the first is I know, I think we don't think we should have any illusions about the distribution of power.
I mean, we don't have a lot of it.
But I think we should be having these conversations amongst ourselves.
We should really learn how to talk about it and stop using the language of either the mainstream media or academia, so on and so forth.
I think we should develop our own language and teach others to speak it.
So, you know, I think in our little ways, we can have a major effect.
The other thing is that I think what this whole Trayvon Martin case signifies on a much deeper level, and one that's not directly related to the facts of the case, is the fact that so many of white Americans have really been running away from the Trayvon, symbolically, but also quite literally.
We have abandoned major American cities, major American cities like Philadelphia or Detroit or so on and so forth, that really defined this country in certain ways.
We've kind of abandoned them, and yet we haven't really wanted to talk about the reason why.
Absolutely.
And I think most of the people listening to this program know that reason, and that is black crime and black general social dysfunction.
But we need to talk about that, and we need to face that issue seriously and drop a lot of these lies that the white community tells about the fact that we search for good schools or so on and so forth.
We should really face up to these facts.
And before you can ever overcome these problems, you need to define them accurately.
Hey, Richard, I am glad you decided to stay with us through the extended break that comes at the top of each hour because that was well worth the wait.
And thank you for putting the exclamation point on your commentary tonight.
Great job.
Well, thanks for having me, James.
My pleasure as always, and I want to encourage everyone listening tonight to check out and support Richard Spencer's work at alternativeright.com.
Richard, thanks again.
I want to remind people also that joining me in the studio for the second hour to co-host the program with me is none other than Bill Rowland.
And I've been talking to Bill for the last two weeks about this.
We tried to get Bill on last week.
It didn't quite work out, but Bill made himself available this evening, and he is ready to talk about Trayvon Martin, this whole phenomenon, the impact of it, what it means for us as whites with all the anti-white rhetoric boiling about in the media, what it means for us culturally, and so much more.
Also, another man who is doing this at his website is our next guest.
He is a tenured professor of evolutionary psychology at California State University, Long Beach.
He is the editor of theOccidentalObserver.net, a director of the American Third Position Party, and so much more truly the intellectual heavyweight of the Political Assessful guest list, Dr. Kevin McDonald.
Kevin, I thank you too, my friend, for coming on with such short notice this evening.
How are you?
I'm great.
It's great to be back here on Political Cesspool.
It's been far too long.
And again, I know I called you literally two minutes before showtime tonight, and you worked us in on extremely short notice.
But, you know, I had to post.
Your article on this matter was so good.
I had to post it, repost it, I should say, at the official internet headquarters of our radio program this week.
Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman reaffirming the anti-white religion.
Since I knew this was going to be the primary topic of conversation tonight, I wanted to bring you on, Kevin, for just a short 10-minute interview to allow you the opportunity to break down this article that you wrote.
What did you say in it?
Well, the basic idea was that this whole crush of the media on this Trayvon Martin thing is basically reaffirming this whole religious ideology that the fundamental basis of our country now is white people victimizing black people.
I mean, that's sort of the mantra that keeps coming through the mainstream media.
So in this case, it's really as the facts become more and more known, it's really not fitting very well.
The perpetrator wasn't really white.
The victim is not this 14-year-old little angelic boy.
He's this 6'3 drug-dealing thug, probably a burglar and everything else.
So it's really an amazing thing to see this absolute deluge of the media, and especially going sites like MSNBC or the sort of real mainstream media, the LA Times, New York Times, which coined the term white Hispanic in honor of this thing.
I thought that was unprecedented.
I'd never seen that before.
But yeah, continue.
Yeah, it's just an amazing thing to see it.
And I'm hoping, I think that one thing I noticed is that even on the mainstream conservative sites, I was watching Sean Hannity.
He's really taking the opposite point of view here, that Trayvon Martin probably was assaulting this guy.
And he's not sort of just falling and lying here.
And I think I'm sure he's conscious of the attitudes of his audience, which are the vast majority white people.
They don't want to keep hearing this anymore, especially when it's so far-fetched in this case.
If you listen to these black congressmen, it's sort of like Trayvon Martin was hunted down like a dog.
They use that phrase and completely innocent, just standing around and somebody shot him or something like that.
Just insane.
So we'll see.
But I'm hoping that more white people start to get on board with the idea that this mantra has to be challenged and has to be false.
I mean, I'm sure you guys have talked about the fact that black people are much more likely to kill whites than the reverse and that kind of thing.
Well, and not only that, Kevin, I mean, we've brought up some far more heinous stories that have happened within the same time period as the Martin Zimmerman ordeal.
Stories of black-on-white crime and murder and rape that certainly have a racial animus that have not gotten any coverage whatsoever.
Whereas in this story, of course, there is most likely race wasn't a factor.
In my article, I mentioned that case where the black kids threw gasoline on the white kid.
Right, sure.
Talked about a white boy and all that kind of stuff.
I mean, that never got to me.
No, and we talked about that last week as well.
I mean, sure, you got within the same time as this story, three black kids attack a white kid, pour gasoline on his head, set him on fire, said, this is what you get, white boy.
Folks, we're bringing Bill Rowland into the conversation at the top of this next segment right after the commercial break.
He'll join me in this interview with Kevin McDonnell and share his thoughts on the story, which we've all been waiting for.
Kevin, with us for one more segment.
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All right, everybody, welcome back to the show.
James Edwards here with you in the Political Cesspool this evening.
Kevin McDonald, our guest this hour.
I've used the word once tonight, but when you're talking about a guy like this, you can't use an adjective like incomparable enough, the incomparable Kev McDonald.
Check out his work at theOccidentalObserver.net.
And Kevin, again, I want to thank you for coming on with such short notice.
I know it's kind of a quick interview tonight.
Perhaps we can have you on again even as early as next week for an extended interview on this subject.
But we have you for one more segment, and I want to bring in my co-host, Bill Rowland, to pick it up from there.
Build you on with Kevin McDonald.
Dr. McDonald, it's an honor to ask you a few questions.
I don't think we've ever been together on the show, but I'm delighted that we're here together tonight.
It's great to be here.
I enjoy it.
You know, one thing about blacks that having grown up in the South and been in Memphis during the riots in 1968 after King was shot here, is that there is almost an organic and an automatic groupthink among blacks when it comes to the issue of race.
And by that, I mean that there is an emotional component and an impulsive component that seems to bring them together almost as a single organism to confront whites and to demonstrate and to provoke situations like the one in Florida.
And have you done any kind of studies on that or have any information on that about why and what it is about blacks that forms this particular behavioral characteristic?
Well, it's an interesting point you're making there.
I do think that blacks in general tend to be more aggressive, more impulsive, more sort of pleasure-seeking and so on.
A lot of data on that.
J. Philippe Rushin's theory, Professor Rush's theory, so-called RK theory definitely describes blacks that way.
There's a lot of research on that.
And I do think that as blacks feel that they have more power, we're going to see that more and more, this sort of sheer aggression in your face.
You know, people like El Sharpton's come to mind, you know, where they're just manning the barricades and coming out with all this bombastic stuff and very aggressive.
And unfortunately, so many whites these days are just weak knee and cowardly and my copa, my fault, and all this kind of stuff.
So we have to stand up to that.
But it's like a very important thing to realize what these people are like ultimately.
Well, that's interesting.
Let's talk about the groupthink of whites and what our survival strategy could possibly be in the face of this reckless hatred, to quote the Lord of the Rings, this reckless hatred against the men of the West.
And exactly, why is it, do you think, that whites have not developed the same sort of survival strategy in terms of coming together as a group and resisting what is obviously serious and ominous threats against our safety?
That's true.
You know, you're mentioning this sort of group think among blacks.
I mean, there are all these stories, you know, about, you know, like Jewish doctors, you know, created AIDS in the black community and that kind of stuff.
They have all these conspiracy theories, and they completely impervious to any facts or anything.
It's just not based on anything.
And they go around the black community, and they can't be dislodged by any facts.
You couldn't, so like right now, if you came up to the average black person and started talking about Trayvon, talking about his characteristics, talking about his fault in the situation, and that they're just not going to listen.
I mean, it's not even part of the, it's just not part of their culture in a way.
And actually, there was an interesting thing at this university in Florida.
This black student just went crazy in a class.
And there's a video of it.
It went viral on the internet.
Ramsey Paul has a great, very humorous comment on it, which I think I posted on my website, where she just went off.
And it was like she was impervious to any kind of logic.
She, you know, evolution, the whole theory equals racism.
And that was all she needed to know.
And it was like just completely emotional and screaming and all that.
And that's just a sort of style in the black community.
And it's not rational.
It's very intense, very emotional, and it's aggressive as can be.
So, you know, it's like, I think that's what we're seeing now.
And I think when they feel they have more power, they got the president now.
They got Obama.
They got the Attorney General as black, you know, Eric Holder.
And I think they're feeling their power and feel they can, you know, just sort of get their way.
And, you know, it's a sort of harbinger of what this country is going to be like.
Say, if things keep going the way they are now, imagine what it's going to be like in 20, 30 years when whites start to be a minority.
They have even less political power.
Whites are going to be victimized like you just can't believe.
And the government's not going to do a thing.
I mean, even now, I mean, I'm sure you guys have been talking about all the black-on-white crime.
The government really doesn't.
They prosecute it.
If it's a crime, they don't talk about hate.
It's sort of suppressing the media.
Well, I think in 30, 40 years, you're going to have out-and-out victimization, and they're not going to do much about the perpetrators at all.
Well, Dr. McDonald, it seems to me, in fact, I can state, I think, with confidence, that the biggest problem is a failure of assimilation.
And the fact remains that the blacks in this country are descended from blacks that have been here for 300, 400 years.
And the failure to assimilate is an indication that there's a component that cannot be explained away as social conditioning, as poverty, or some of the other excuses that have been used.
That clearly there is a, you know, as I say, an organic reason for this.
And, you know, it seems to be that my concern is that whites seem to be marching right off the cliff.
You know, there was a picture I saw on Yahoo News of a white man probably in his 60s sitting in a group of blacks wearing a hoodie.
I mean, what mentality could possibly explain this sort of farce, almost an absurd situation where a man is basically putting on the uniform of his enemy?
That's right.
But it's the power of the mainstream media.
And I think, you know, I'm in psychology and I read some of the social psychology and they have this view that, you know, if you keep repeating these messages, that it becomes part of the, it becomes a sort of reflex among whites eventually.
And they start to, they're very, you know, like everybody.
We're all, we can be influenced by the media.
And so you get these messages over and over and over again.
And pretty soon you see these white guys who are acting, so-called wiggers, you know, and they're acting black and they're doing the signs and they're doing all this stuff, you know, that blacks do.
And it's just pathetic.
I agree there.
They're the enemy.
And they don't see that.
They really are not aware of how they've been manipulated, really, by all this.
But you're actually right about this assimilation.
We've had 300 years of life here.
You've definitely had some blacks move up in the middle class.
A lot of that just do the affirmative action.
But the reality is you have a huge percentage of blacks.
Really, no matter what you do for them, you cannot give them a college degree there.
They're just completely out of that loop.
And so that is the group that is not going to be able to assimilate to white cultural norms.
They're always going to be a problem.
Their big issues are going to be police brutality and shootings and stuff like that because they are going to be in that situation where they're criminals of various kinds and prone to drug use and just not able to really get into the working world.
So yeah, there's such a high percentage of blacks doing that that it's just no hope because I mean, I'm sure you're aware there's a lot of evidence that IQ and criminality and that kind of stuff is strongly influenced genetically.
And those traits are going to persist.
They've had more than enough time to get out of it.
All this program and all the money that's been spent, it's not helping, it's not working.
And so ultimately we have to deal with a very large group of people like that.
Hey, Dr. McDonald, we're coming up on a commercial break.
I want to thank you again for coming on tonight in such an unexpected manner.
I would love to have you back on to extend this interview if we can do it.
I'll tell you what, I'm going to get in touch with you over email in the next couple of days, and we'll see what we can work out, what your schedules will allow.
But thanks again for coming on tonight.
It's been entirely our pleasure.
That's great.
Really appreciate it, James.
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Show's not over, though.
Bill Rowland and I are coming back right after these words.
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Taking a breath here.
Say living it all out.
The log jam has been alleviated, but I'll tell you what, we went from one brilliant guest to another brilliant guest, and now we're transitioning over to a couple of brilliant co-hosts.
Bill Rowland and Eddie Miller sitting in here with me in a particularly hot studio this evening.
It's hot as a furnace of it here this evening.
All right.
Yeah, the show within the show.
Bill, thank you for being patient, my friend.
You know, I had no idea what was going on after Keith's last-minute mulligan.
So I started booking them up hard and heavy, but I tell you what, you can't do better than Richard Spencer and Kevin McDonald.
But Bill, you've been waiting equally patient.
And by the way, great interview with Kevin there, that last segment.
You've got a lot to say about Trayvon Martin.
Again, everybody knows the details.
We're giving them the commentary, the likes of which they won't get anywhere else.
Bill, it's basically just yours to drive here.
Where do you want to start?
Well, I think that the aspects of the Trayvon Martin case and of George Zimmerman have been talked to death, frankly.
And the point is that with Al Sharpton and Ben Jealous of the NAACP and Jesse Jackson get involved, that ought to be a telegraph message to the country of what's really going on.
And the Trayvon Martin case was not a news item from the perspective of ordinary crime.
These type of crimes take place all over the country all the time, or people defend their homes from black criminals all over the country all the time.
And whites are victimized by black crime all over the country all the time.
James, you raised the statistic that was brought up by Pat Buchanan in his latest article.
Black, young black males, 2% of the population commit 33% of the crimes in this country.
That's a racial statistic as much as anything else.
Now, what's really going on in terms of the agenda and the objectives of the NAACP, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and the usual gang?
Well, first of all, there are two things.
One is the law in Florida that was enacted and passed and enacted by the Republicans there, by conservatives, the stand your ground law.
And what that means is that if you feel threatened or you're being menaced, you have the right to defend yourself with whatever force necessary to ensure your own life and safety.
And the second thing is, is the hoodie.
Now, this has become the symbol of black, I guess you'd say Trayvon Martin and young blacks is the hoodie.
The black warm-up suit with the hood on it, which is pulled down low over their faces.
And as we saw all over the country, people were putting on hoodies in churches and schools and standing up for Trayvon.
Well, of course, this sort of herd mentality, particularly among whites, is a farce.
It's ridiculous and it's a shame to watch.
But this is the second thing, the second important aspect of this case.
Because the fact is that Al Sharpton, the NAACP circle like vultures over the whole country, looking for an issue which they can exploit and capitalize on.
And they chose this one, I think, based on the mistaken belief that George Zimmerman was going to be an older white man living in an all-white community and shot Trayvon Martin impulsively, thinking he was under threat.
And I think they put the machine in motion before the true identity of George Zimmerman came out.
I don't think they realized that he was, in fact, biracial, Hispanic, a Democrat, and an anti-racist.
Apparently, all of this is true about him.
Well, it doesn't matter because he had been selected for execution, and they had to move forward.
They already had the story written.
How could they deviate from that?
You know, they couldn't change the script, so they just had to take the actors on stage for what they were.
So, right, they couldn't change the script because the wheels were in motion.
This is a big operation.
Well, you know as well as I do, James, that Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and the NAACP aren't going to take up any cause that has no capital to it, and it cannot be exploited for money.
I got to say one thing, Bill.
I got to say one thing, because Eddie brought this up when we were having lunch with Keith.
He said, we've got to call the president of La Raza and say, well, aren't they defending their boy here?
Because you know, if, as we said earlier, Zimmerman's race would have switched from white to Hispanic had he been shot by a white person, had the actors been somewhat different in the story.
Well, so what's going on with La Raza?
We know what's going on with the black community.
They're either calling for violence or doing what they do.
La Raza said they are ashamed that Zimmerman considers himself to be Hispanic.
Apparently, from what I've read, completely just hanging him out to dry here.
I mean, very interesting.
That's a very Soviet thing.
That's a very Soviet mentality that once the enemy of the state has been identified, you have to go ahead with his persecution.
So that's what that is.
And La Raza, of course, has the same agenda as the NAACP, has the same agenda as the black militant gang.
And so they don't want to lose that connection.
So they feel that there's more currency in staying and remaining a left-wing militant organization on race than actually protecting one of their own.
Now, of course, he'd been an illegal alien.
It'd be a different story.
They may have had a little more, you know, may have a little more interest.
But since he's not, since he's a citizen, he's not worth their time.
But this brings up an interesting point, too, James.
And it has to do with self-identity.
This is a big issue of the left and liberals is the self-identity, identifying yourself.
How do you self-identify?
How do you self-categorize?
So Obama, for instance, self-categorizes as black, even though his ancestry is half white, half black.
He self-identifies as black.
Exactly.
And so if you're half Hispanic, you can self-identify as Hispanic, as Jessica Alba does.
Jessica Alba, for a long time, the Hispanic actress, young actress, believed that she was Indian and not more non-white.
And then she had a genetic test and finds out she's overwhelmingly white person, but she still self-identifies as Hispanic and non-white.
Right, right.
And it let the wind out of her balloon, but nevertheless, you know, the facts are facts.
And also, people who, you know, the twisted, depraved, and perverted sick minds who say, I'm a woman instead of a man, that self-identification has been legitimated by the left, even though all physical characteristics aside, they self-identify as transgender or women or men or whatever.
A la share or now Chas Bono.
So the self-identification thing is very important.
In the case of Zimmerman, however, they completely throw that out the window and identify him against his own self-identification, white Hispanic, even though he self-identifies as multiracial, Hispanic, and so forth.
So that proves the utter hypocrisy and double standard they play out when it comes to how you identify race.
But getting back to the hoodie issue and getting back to the standard ground, I think almost certainly, as did blacks and liberals during the civil rights movement, the black gang, black militant gang, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and so forth, chose this as a flashpoint for, one, getting rid of the standard ground law, and two,
putting themselves in the position of challenging or even generating lawsuits against establishments, private establishments, which don't allow people to wear hoodies on their premises.
This includes almost every bank I go into.
If you walk into a bank, the first sign you're going to see is, no, don't wear sunglasses, head covering, or hoodies.
I don't know of a single convenience store in a black neighborhood that doesn't have the no hoodie rule printed pretty plainly on the door because this is the modus operandi of black criminals.
They walk in, they pull the hoodie down over their faces so the security cameras can't get a good look at them.
They rob the store and they run out.
But the hoodie has become the standard costume of the black urban class.
And so that is now being protected or defended as a legitimate cultural apparel for the urban class.
And so I guarantee you there's going to be a movement against the anti-hoodie signs and the anti-hoodie, why can't I wear a hoodie in your store or your bank?
And there'll be some challenge to that.
But also the standard ground rule is one of the big targets, and they're going to try to do away with it.
Bill, I mean, again, this is why Bill's on the staff.
Eddie, give him a round of applause.
I know you want to.
There you go.
Well, Bill, thankfully, our opinion doesn't matter because the facts have come out.
Never mind the fact that the night Trayvon Martin was killed, it was like 80 degrees in central Florida.
So, you know, those hoodies, you know, who wouldn't be wearing a hoodie in 80-degree weather?
Because I was down there that week, and I know how hot it was.
But nevertheless, we know what Trayvon was doing that night.
I mentioned it earlier on the show.
We know why he was going to the store.
And we're going to get to the news story right after this.
Bill, we got about 10 seconds to break.
Very quickly, when we come back, we're going to talk about some of the interesting parallels in this story with historical parallels and see if the media plays that out as well.
And we'll get back to that right after the break.
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And here's the host of the Political Cesspool, James Edwards.
All right, everybody.
Bill Rowland with us for another segment here.
Again, continuing coverage, commentary, opinion analysis about the Trayvon Martin story.
We're trying to bring you objective coverage here, the likes of which you won't find anywhere else, frankly, at least in radio.
I mean, you certainly got The Accidental Observer, you've got Alternative Write, the websites of our guests this evening, Kevin McDonald and Richard Spencer, respectively.
But Bill, as you know, and I mentioned this again once earlier tonight, we now know what was going on the night Trayvon Martin was killed, which again, as tragic as it was, why is it this big of a story?
Why has it become some sort of an anti-white beacon?
Well, according to a news story this just came out last week, and again, I want to say it was on the Huffington Post or something with at least a shred of relevancy.
I mean, you know, certainly not credible in our eyes, but credible as far as establishment media goes.
And they said basically that the reason Trayvon was out that night was because he was taking a break from his SAT studies.
He had an interest in becoming an aeronautical engineer, and he needed to go get some Skittles at the Quickie Mart to give him that sugar rush pick-me-up so he could continue his studies and get into a good college.
And that's what was going on.
Then he noticed that Zimmerman was following him, so he called his girlfriend to let her know he was scared.
And she said, well, maybe you should put your hoodie on.
Why that would help, I don't know.
I guess they thought maybe it would be a cloaking device of some sort, but it just didn't work out.
And who knows what happened after that?
But that's the way it all went down.
So there you have it.
One less aeronautical engineering student is with us now.
Excuse the pun, but that story just don't fly.
Obviously, this is a concocted version of events, and I'll go on record saying that, that suddenly he's become virtually a rocket scientist, I guess.
But getting back to some historical perspectives on this hoodie issue, you know, James, the beginning of the civil rights movement had to do with the creation of the NAACP and the beginning of the civil rights movements in the early 20th century was all directed against the Klan.
And what were the supposed, you know, what were the supposed things about the Klan that were so negative?
Well, one, that they were conducting vigilante justice in defying the law and conducting vigilante justice like lynchings and public gatherings where they call for the death of some particular individual.
Two, that they were disguising themselves in hoods.
And James, you and I both know we've been accused of being the Klan without hoods.
You know, I don't know how you can be in the Klan and not have a hood, but in any case, the point is that they're still using that association against people who've never worn hoods.
But the hood became the symbol of domestic terrorism, of night terror, of riding around and menacing people in the dark.
And, you know, this was all an aspect of the dreaded Ku Klux Klan, the very organization which spawned the civil rights movement and which is still used as a dark chapter in American history.
But if you look at the behavior of these blacks in Florida, it's reminiscent of exactly the things they accused the Klan of doing.
Terrorizing people, vigilante justice, and wearing hoods.
I mean, do they know so little about history that they don't realize they're mimicking the very organization that they so long vilified and hated and held up as a terror organization?
They're doing the same thing.
And yet they don't seem to grasp that.
But what's interesting is that in, I want to say it was back in the 1970s, it may have been before that, the Supreme Court actually ruled against laws in various southern states that prohibited the wearing of a hood in public that obscured your face.
And as an effort to stop the Klan back in the early 1900s and early 20s, southern states actually enacted laws to prevent people from wearing hoods in public.
And wouldn't it be ironic if these hoodie issues go to the Supreme Court and that law is used as precedent to say that you can indeed wear your hoodie because we ruled that the Klan could do so back in the 1970s.
So you could wear your hoods now too.
That the very law which protected the Klan's use of a hood would protect their hoodies.
Maybe that'll give them a little food for thought.
I doubt it.
Yeah, a long pause, but I doubt very seriously whether that will happen.
But the point being is that the very things that black civil rights leaders, so-called, have accused and have long dreaded about the Klan and talked about the Klan as this terror organization that loomed over the South forever.
They're doing exactly the same thing that the Klan did in the 1920s, or at least they say the Klan did in the 1920s.
And vigilante justice, we've seen that.
We've seen the hoods.
And so all I can say is you've become what you hate most.
You've become the very thing that you campaigned against for all those years.
Congratulations.
Congratulations.
Except now instead of a grand dragon, they have a reverend, you know, a reverend doctor or a professor or something.
You know, they don't have grand dragons and grand wizards and so forth.
Yeah, you know, Jesse Jackson actually had a slip of the tongue.
And I'm sure if pressed, he would have said he meant this in a different context.
But he said that, you know, he was in Florida to stand with the Martin family because killing black boys is big business.
And he got that right.
It's big business for him.
He certainly made a living, the likes of which we'll never know, off of all this stuff.
But okay, Bill, we've got a couple of minutes left with you.
Where does it go from here?
And how much longer does it last?
How much longer can this last?
I think the good news here is that this big campaign against George Zimmerman is falling apart.
For one thing, the Sanford Florida Police Department, I think, has shown their real mettle by standing up to these thugs and refusing to go against the laws of Florida and just arrest a man on specious reasons.
They are not dragging him to the gallows before a trial.
They have stood up to this gang and apparently are waiting them out.
The second thing is that Zimmerman's family has stood by him admirably and have defended his right to do what he did.
They say it's regrettable that Trayvon died, but on the other hand, Zimmerman was protecting himself.
And many of the people in his community are standing behind him as someone who was helpful, kind, and always looking out for his neighbors.
So they may have really run aground this time on going after and victimizing someone for the sake of their racial prerogatives and the shakedown also, probably the state of Florida and private institutions as well.
I think that they have a looming disaster on their hands.
More importantly, I think there's the strong possibility that this Trayvon Martin case, if it's properly pursued, could be politically damaging to President Obama because he's thrown his lot in with Trayvon Martin's family.
He also has implied that Mr. Zimmerman is guilty before a trial.
And so I think this may have political repercussions for Obama as well.
I certainly hope so, because certainly he had no business sticking his nose in an issue which was as explosive and inflammatory as that simply to try to make points with his black constituency.
Emailed question, Bill.
Two questions actually.
Trayvon Martin had a cell phone, as we know, at the time of the incident.
Why didn't he call 911 to report someone following him if he felt that he was the one likely to be victimized rather than the aggressor?
And secondly, when he ran, as the story states, at some point did occur, why didn't he run home?
Well, I don't think the hoodie crowd ever dials 911 unless they've got a gunshot wound and need an ambulance.
I mean, I don't, I can't think of a reason he would even considering calling 911 when, according to what we know right now, he followed Mr. Zimmerman back to his car and confronted him there.
That Zimmerman was no longer pursuing him, but he was actually, in a sense, on Zimmerman's turf.
So apparently, he didn't want to have any connection with the police.
Is the only thing I can assume is that he didn't want the police around him anywhere because he'd already had a few problems with the police and didn't want any more.
Well, Bill, so there we have it.
That's the coverage.
We haven't done this much coverage on a single issue since we had Obama dear Pappy back here and Keith.
We were going at the Southern Baptist pretty hard, which is, of course, mine and Eddie's shared denomination.
We did that for about four weeks in a row.
So two weeks of pretty hard Trayvon coverage.
I know you've answered this to an extent, Bill, but we got 30 seconds left.
This story ends.
How?
This story ends with, I believe, Al Sharpton and the civil rights gangsters leaving Florida with their tail between their legs, but shouting the whole way as they leave.
And I think that there may be some attempt to get Mr. Zimmerman to agree a plea bargain to involuntary manslaughter or something just to get this off the books, in which case he wouldn't serve any time, go through diversion.
I think that might be a tactic that both the Justice Department and the state of Florida may use to resolve this issue.
Bill Rowland, everybody, give him a big round of applause.
The show wouldn't be half as good without him, and it wouldn't be good at all without him tonight.
Bill, thanks for your contributions to this story and to this program this evening.
We'll be back with Eddie the Bombardier Miller, who will be my wingman for the entire third hour.
Stick around, folks.
We'll be back.
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