Jan. 15, 2011 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Welcome to the Political Cesspool, known worldwide as the South's foremost populous radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
All right, after a fun and off-beat second hour, welcome back to the third and final hour of tonight's live edition of the Political Cesspool Radio Program.
We have an outstanding guest list forthcoming next week, January 29th, February 5th, February 12th.
They're already all booked up and not only booked up, but overbooked and jam-packed.
Check them out.
But for now, welcome back to the broadcast, ladies and gentlemen.
January 15th, I'm James Edwards.
You've heard from Paul Craig Roberts.
We went to the archives, listened to a little Pat Buchanan, and then a roundtable discussion that I participated in earlier this week with the fellow members of the American Third Position Board of Directors.
That's all happened so far, but still much more to come as we broadcast to you this evening from AM 1380 WLRM Radio in Memphis, Tennessee.
Going out, of course, as we always are, to our AM FM affiliate stations, the Liberty News Radio Network, and simulcasting online as well at thepoliticalcesspool.org and libertynewsradio.com.
Joining me now for the third and final hour, my good friend and fellow co-host, Winston Smith.
Winston, how are you, buddy?
I am very well.
It's been an astounding week.
We've been very busy over at the Cesspool Blog, and I've been fulfilling some other duties with another project with which I'm involved.
And it all revolves around what happened in Tucson.
As you know, James, it's just been a very hectic week to be a member of the Cesspool staff, but it's been very satisfying.
I think we accomplished a lot.
Well, we certainly have, Winston, as I think we always do.
And you have certainly been taking on a fair share of blogging this week.
And I want to thank you for that.
Excellent articles, as always.
Now, you mentioned the Tucson thing.
We've been covering it quite extensively at the Political Cesspool website.
We covered it for an hour last week with Sam Dixon, who did, I think, a magnificent job, not only of providing opinion and analysis and commentary on that event, but also helping us be one of the first mainstream radio programs to address it as it happened on Saturday.
And there we were Saturday night.
And Sam Dixon, just excellent in his role last week.
But now, are you going to be talking with Pastor Weaver later this hour about the Tucson affair, or should we get into it now?
We're going to be talking with Pastor Weaver in the second half of the hour.
And I talked with him about it at length earlier this week.
And he has some pretty definite opinions about it.
And they're not just opinions, but he has biblical truth about it.
He's going to explain just how this could happen and how it could happen, how it could happen outside of biblical absolutes.
And I wanted to talk with him about it because I listened to Obama's speech at the memorial service for the victims.
And I was stickened by the politicization of that event.
I think I had written on the blog that this memorial service was about the victims, not about him.
And it seemed like all the stories that I read about it were calculating the possible political effects or the political effects of Obama's speech at the memorial service.
They made it all about him.
And it was about how he could improve his ratings, his approval ratings, with that one speech.
And for a couple days after that, that's what was covered in the news.
It wasn't about the victims.
It was about how Obama benefited from that memorial service.
It reminded me of when, who was the guy in Minnesota who died just before the elections, and I think it was Walter Mondale who was pulled in to take his place.
During the election cycle a few years back, one of the candidates in Minnesota, I think, passed away and they put in a replacement candidate.
And the funeral service for the guy who had died became a political rally.
And it was absolutely obscene.
And that is what is becoming of the Tucson shooting, James.
It is becoming absolutely obscene.
At first, I took a bit of relish in the way the left was making themselves look exactly like what they are, which is a bunch of bloodthirsty, a bunch of conniving, a bunch of political animals.
They took advantage of this tragedy and tried to turn it into political advantage.
And I'm proud to say that it's been people on our side, and I don't mean the Republicans or the conservatives, but I mean the pro-white people who have stepped up and said, wait a minute, this is not about politics.
This is about some screwball who just went off.
And it's kind of obscene to make it into something that it's not.
We are the ones, James.
I don't mean just us at the Cesspool, although we've been at the forefront, but we are the people, the pro-white websites, the pro-white organizations, the pro-white people who are reminding the country that this is not what the political class is making it.
Shame on them.
And kudos to us.
Well, as always, Winston, and this is something that we're going to have to follow up on when we get Pastor Weaver on.
Ladies and gentlemen, I want to reiterate that Winston has provided excellent written commentary on this issue at the Political Cesspool's website, thepolitical cesspool.org.
Just click, when you go to the blog on the right-hand corner, just click the tab, the files of Winston Smith, and it'll bring up all of his most recent writings for us.
He's done a great job and will continue to do a good job, the Political Cesspool, providing the definitive voice for the American right on this and every issue across the political spectrum.
We're going to revisit the Tucson shooting a little bit later this hour when we have Pastor John Weaver on.
But, Winston, not to, and it's going to be hard to segue from something as serious as this to something of a more trivial nature, but we're going to try here because it's the Cesspool and we can do just about anything.
I think we've earned it.
You were here, obviously, this week when we got the big snow in Memphis.
And Joe McCutcheon, God bless him, Joe McCutcheon, one of my favorite guests.
You know, some of my favorite guests on the Cesspool are some of the, you know, we've had so many people of national prominence on this show over the years.
We've had actors.
We've had members of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame come on this show.
But some of my most favorite guests are people like Joe McCutcheon.
You know, just, you know, this is a guy, Joe McCutcheon, Sam Dixon, these are the guys that should be participating in the roundtable discussions on cable news.
And Joe McCutcheon just, he wrote a letter to the editor earlier this week, and he just hit the nail on the head.
It had to do with the snow that Memphis got.
Joe lives across the bridge over in Fort Smith.
He wrote, another example of the demasculinization of America resides right here in Fort Smith.
The government shut down with a half-inch dusting of snow, no doubt with pay, while the supporting cast, the producing segment of Fort Smith, went right to work this morning, as they always do.
Government has spent way too much power and has got to be reined in.
How many of the good old boys, the sanitation department, for instance, are stuck in their respective homes today?
Who ordered the shutdown?
And basically, it's just Joe griping that how now, Winston, you know, a half an inch of snow comes here in the South.
And the school stayed shut down here in Memphis until, what, Thursday?
Wednesday?
It's ridiculous.
It's been a long time since men like Davey Crockett served as our elected officials.
James, I would like to defend.
Winston, before you offer your defense there, one second, we've got to take a break.
I hear music.
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Believe it or not, we have another guest coming up tonight, Pastor John Weaver coming up in the next segment.
But before we get to him, Winston, you were going to offer your defense for something.
Yeah, it's not often I'm going to defend the city of Memphis against anything, but this time I think it's warranted.
The school system shuts down in Memphis when they get the slightest bit of snow because several years ago, a school bus slid on some snow and had just a really minor accident.
No one was hurt, but some parents got together and they threw the knot out of the school district because emotional distress and all that garbage.
So the school system has to take some preemptive measures.
They just can't afford to be sued.
The school system.
Well, I mean, no, granted, but you know, and I'm talking about now, maybe on Monday, you know, we did have the half an inch or whatever.
Okay.
They were closed for, you know, they were closed on Wednesday because it was cold.
That's not an exaggeration.
I'm not kidding.
But anyway, Joe McCutcheon, I love Joe's sarcasm.
If you've ever had a chance to go out to dinner with Joe, and I've had the opportunity to break bread quite a few times at the end, I mean, the man is just classic cool.
And so I saw this letter to the editor.
We had to put it up on our site.
Now, another one real quick.
And again, we're going from the serious.
You've heard from Paul Craig Roberts tonight, Pat Buchanan, the members of the American Third Position Board of Directors.
We got John Weaver coming up.
And we're talking about some trivial stuff right now.
We're going to get back to the Tucson shooting.
So you've got to have a moment of levity here.
Chick-fil-A, Winston, they're under attack now.
You know, they close on Sunday.
And apparently, they've teamed up.
And this was a pretty popular blog entry this week.
Got quite a few replies at thepolitical cesspool.org.
They're teaming up with the Pennsylvania Family Institute to co-sponsor an event called the Art of Marriage.
And they are getting attacked as if, well, I guess Chick-fil-A is going to be on the hate watch list pretty soon here.
Oh, no doubt.
They certainly have, you know, Chick-fil-A.
You got to love them.
They are sticking to their guns and they have their state, they have their principals, and they are sticking to them.
And I think, of course, they're going to call for protests and boycotts, but I think Chick-fil-A will come out better.
People who like Chick-fil-A really like Chick-fil-A, and they're not going to let A bunch of deviates, a bunch of gamosexuals, tell them where they can eat and where they cannot eat.
Well, that's right.
And thankfully, you know, Chick-fil-A, another great southern chain, started in Atlanta, Georgia, home of Paul Craig Roberts, no less, or birthplace of Paul Craig Roberts.
He now lives elsewhere.
But check that out.
If you haven't read it, if you don't know the news, check out Eat at Chick-fil-A.
We're devolving now here in the Cesspool.
We're going from trivial to absolutely absurd.
Did you read the one, Winston, on the blog?
This was before the Tucson shooting, I think.
So we were kind of taking it easy.
But did you read about Zambia's Forgotten Space Program?
Yeah.
There have been numerous stories in the past about African nations and Africans who wanted to send a ship into space, but that was one of the better ones, I have to admit.
Well, check that one out, too.
I'll give you just the synopsis, and then you can read the rest of the story.
We're trying to cover a little bit of tidbits here, doing a rapid fire segment here before we get to our next guest.
1964 was the year Zambian teacher, and this came from the Discovery Channel's website.
A Zambian teacher vowed that his country would beat America as the first to put a man on the moon, and then they would go to Mars.
Unfortunately, his dream never came to fruition.
The Zambians worked hard, though.
His quote-unquote astronauts rolled down hills in barrels to get used to traveling through space.
They practiced walking on their hands as their leader assured them that this was the only way to get around on the moon.
But it all came to naught because the United Nations wouldn't give him $700 million that he needed to fund the space program.
Plus, he couldn't keep his astronauts' minds off of intercourse.
But he had big dreams, namely using a catapult-inspired firing system to send a 10 by 6 aluminum and copper rocket holding 10 Zambians and a 17-year-old girl to Mars.
But the 17-year-old girl, to make a long story short, became knocked up and her mom pulled her back to the village.
You can't make this stuff up, Winston.
No, when it comes to any of the goings-on there in Africa, anything goes.
Anything goes.
Well, speaking of the Discovery Channel, I was doing something I don't like to do.
There's a couple of things that always make my blood pressure rise.
Number one is going to the post office.
Anytime I have to go to the post office, instant, you know, I'm going to have to have a drink as soon as I leave.
No doubt about it.
And the other one is watching the History Channel.
But I was actually flipping through the History Channel today, and I found a subject that they were halfway objective on and neutral at least.
Andrew Jackson.
There was a biography on Andrew Jackson on earlier this afternoon.
So I was watching it just a little bit.
And, you know, we're a no-violence radio program.
It goes without saying.
We don't advocate violence.
We don't associate ourselves with anyone who does advocate violence, law and order every time.
That's us, and that's the way it should be.
And I think that we can reclaim America's destiny by working through legal measures.
And the best advice I could ever give anyone listening to the program is to immediately distance yourself and condemn anyone in your circle that might be advocating extra-legal means to make a point.
But Winston, you know, back in Andrew Jackson's day, and this was one of the things that they brought out, if someone impugned your character or slandered your name, it was perfectly legal.
And in fact, it was what a man would do is call a duel.
And Andrew Jackson was a participant in several duels in his life.
You know, it's just, you know, I know we're about to get back into the Tucson thing.
And one of the big aspects of this story is all the vitriolic remarks and the back and forth and the blame and the finger pointing and the name calling and this, that, and the other.
Of course, There's not many people in the world that has been the victim of more slander and libel and untruths than your hosts here in the political cesspool.
But, you know, how much of that, Winston, you think would be curbed if we still lived in a day where you could, you know, do you think that would be curtailed if these people thought that there might actually be consequences to their actions?
You know, if Andrew Jackson was still here and we were still in that place and time, you think we could get around some of this stuff?
It's almost a cliche that a well-armed society is a polite society.
So, yeah, I certainly think so.
I hate to imagine it, though, but yeah, it would certainly curtail a lot of the speech that has been decried in this past week by people using the very same speech they decry.
But that's just the day.
It's a good point, Austin.
Such a good point.
It almost made me choke.
And that's one of the points that you brought out in some of your blog entries this week.
Well, Winston, before we get to John Weaver, I don't want to waste a moment with him.
I don't want to even waste a minute introducing him while we have him on the air.
So, in advance of his appearance, which is coming up right after this next commercial break, why don't you give folks a little background?
A lot of people in the chat room here tonight seem to be excited about Pastor John Weaver's appearance.
We have a minute left to break.
Give us a little background info about John Weaver, and will you be addressing Christian Kinism with him?
No, we won't be addressing Christian Kinism.
I would like to talk with him about that because he has been the subject of some discussion at some blogs.
Some people say he is not a kinist, some people say he is, and I would like to have him answer that question himself.
But Pastor John Weaver is, well, he's the official chaplain of the political cesspool.
He is the head of Dominion Ministries, and he is an historian.
He is a southern partisan, and he is among the best.
His website is filled with information about what was going on in the antebellum South and South during the war and during Reconstruction.
He is a first-rate historian.
He is a first-rate speaker, an excellent man, and a good friend.
And it's going to be our pleasure, indeed our honor, to have Pastor John Weaver on for just a half hour.
I wish we had him on for more.
But Winston, hang on right there.
We're going to have him on for that half hour right after these words.
We've got to take that break.
Winston Smith and John Weaver coming up next on the Political Cesspool.
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Well, here comes the time, you know, and it's never scripted.
Of course, this show is never scripted.
It's always unrehearsed and uncensored, and most of the time unprepared, although we do the best job we can.
But, you know, it seems as though it's this point of the show each and every week that I say, my goodness, the time has really flown by.
Here we are, only 30 minutes left.
Well, it's not like I have a sticky note here in the studio saying, don't forget at this point in the show to make that announcement.
I really feel it about this time.
I look at the clock every Saturday night, and we only have 30 minutes left.
And I don't want to waste a second of that.
Welcome back to the show, ladies and gentlemen.
James Edwards here, Winston Smith.
We got a great guest.
Winston introduced him actually before the last commercial break, so we could get right down to business and get down to business.
We shall.
Winston, over to you.
Thank you very much.
Pastor Weaver, we are very happy and very excited to have you on the broadcast tonight, sir.
Well, thank you.
It's a joy to be on.
I hope I'll be able to help.
I'm sure you will.
You always have in the past.
Before we get into the questions, I want to remind folks that they can find out more about you and your ministry by going to www.dominionministry.com.
That's dominionministry.com.
It's a very valuable resource for our listeners, and I encourage you to go to it.
All right, right to the question.
Pastor Weaver, the big one.
Who is responsible for the shooting that took place in Tucson?
Well, let me try to answer that from a biblical standpoint.
First of all, that's the only one I would expect.
Yes.
Well, I hope everyone understands that blame shifting certainly is useless.
It's not blame shifting that works, and certainly rhetoric or talk show hosts or political agents are not necessarily responsible according to the Bible.
According to the Bible, the man's responsible is the one who has done the deed.
I suppose, you know, you could say that there is indeed a difference between someone who is planning and scheming and a willing participate in something and trying to encourage someone to do something, or just someone listening and then just simply turns around and does it.
Biblically speaking, the one who does it is totally responsible.
The Bible says very clearly in Ezekiel chapter 18, verse 20: The soul that sinneth it shall not die.
The soul that sinneth it shall die.
The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son.
The righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
So God says you don't hold anyone accountable except the one who basically has done the deed.
So if it is my son that has happened to have done something like this, then it is my son's responsibility.
It is his deed.
It is not mine.
There's so many scriptures in that that would relate to this.
For instance, in Numbers 35 and verse 30, God said, Whosoever killeth any person, the murderer shall be put to death.
And all through Scripture, God holds every individual accountable for his actions, and each of us are responsible and accountable to him.
So there's no way you can cut it.
I've been reading some of the news articles.
Some trying to blame Rush Limbaugh, some trying to blame Sarah Palin, some trying to blame other people.
No, no.
The man who'd pulled the trigger is the man who's responsible and accountable, biblically speaking.
We've seen a tremendous amount of comment and analysis from people that I will call armchair psychiatrists offering comment on the state of mind of Jared Lochner, the young man who is responsible for this incident.
How is it that one comes to the point in life that this happens?
What could drive someone to this?
Well, I'm going to answer it in a very broad sense.
And I will tell you, first of all, it's sin.
You say, well, what particular kinds of sin?
Well, just reading the articles that have been written, and of course, you know how the press is.
You can't necessarily believe everything.
But if you believe any of it, there were several leading things there that have been revealed.
For instance, satanic worship, frock music, drugs, etc.
But the point I'm trying to make is this.
When one comes to a point in his life to do something like this, there has to always be a rejection of God and his word.
There has to be a rejection of absolutes.
In other words, basically what our educational system has done in the last 50, 60, 70, 80 years is basically deny biblical absolute and teaches human relativism.
So basically individuals are now being taught that there are no absolutes.
There is no right and wrong.
And certainly if people are taught that long enough, then they begin to think, well, hey, it's all right to kill.
It's all right to steal.
It's all right to do any number of things.
But basically, you come to this by a rejection of God and his word.
You come to this by a rejection of the absolute truth of scripture.
There's an interesting verse in Romans chapter 6 and verse 16, and it goes like this.
Know you not that to whom you yield yourself servants to obey, his servants you are to whom you obey, whether of sin unto death or of obedience unto righteousness.
So once you begin to yield your mind and you yield your body to all of these outside influences that are absolutely wicked and wrong, you basically become the servant of those outside influences.
It's impossible for someone to do something like this if you are maintaining a biblical attitude.
It's always amazing to me at how many people actually do accept the premise that there really are no absolutes.
And as soon as they accept that, they become blind to the fact that they have already accepted at least one absolute, and that is that there are no absolutes.
And of course, they're accepting an absolute when they say that.
It's amazing how the mind works.
And it's amazing how people are willing to throw years of history, and I'm not talking to one or two, but I mean hundreds and even thousands of years of history down the drain, as well as very obvious evidence that is right before their eyes and try to deny truth and reality.
But yet people do that and they do it quite frequently, that is for sure.
Pastor, we were given, when this incident in Tucson happened, it seems like we were given hardly any time at all to be shocked and appalled at what happened before the left immediately began blaming us and blaming Sarah Palin and blaming Jared Taylor and blaming everybody but Jared Lochner.
But still, when we do have some time to reflect on it, we are still shocked at it.
And I have to ask, what has happened to our society?
How do we get to the point to where a politician just out trying to meet constituents is confronted by a crazy man with a Glock nine millimeter and he pulled through his skull?
Well, you know, what has happened to our society in general is what has happened to individuals in particular.
For instance, you remember it was, I believe, Samuel Adams who said that this constitution that our founding fathers gave us is only for a moral people.
That is, a people who are willing to be ruled by the word of God.
And consequently, times have changed.
When I say that, society has changed because we have rejected as a whole the law of God, the rule of God.
I remember when I was a boy, and that was many, many years back, but I remember if I went up town even on a weekend, I had to look very hard to find a policeman.
They just were not that many around.
There were just very few of them.
And I could go weeks at the time without ever seeing a policeman.
Now you can't drive down the road 10 miles without passing five or six of them.
And you wonder why there is now a multitudinous amount and a multiplicity of police officers everywhere.
And that's because when people will not control themselves and discipline themselves, then they're always going to be controlled by an outside force.
It was one of our founding fathers who said it simply.
He said, we must either be governed by the Bible or by the bayonet, either by an internal power or by an outside power.
And things have changed even since I was a boy.
And our society has basically just been corrupted and horn-swoggled by embracing humanism and political correctness on every hand.
It's unbelievable.
Of course, when you don't see a police officer, chances are you're going to see a whole plethora of surveillance cameras watching your every move.
And that's correct.
I will always listen to anything that Sam Adams had to say or write because that was the beer guy.
I like him a lot.
Yes, sir.
Sam has an awful lot to say, that's for sure.
Hey, gentlemen, hang on there.
We will get back to our discussion of Sam Adams right after this.
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We'll be back with both of them right after these messages.
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Yes, indeed, ladies and gentlemen, James Edwards back here with you now for one final segment.
Co-hosted with me this hour, Winston Smith, our guest, Pastor John Weaver.
Gentlemen, back to you.
Pastor Reaver, before we left, we had talked about, or you had told us about what has brought our society to this point.
And you gave a very clear answer.
And now I'd like to ask, how do we fix it?
What is the answer to this malady that's just plaguing us like so many locusts in Egypt?
Well, you know, the interesting thing is the answer is really very simple.
I try to caution people all the time about the Naaman complex.
You remember Naaman was the Syrian who came to the king of Israel and wanted to be healed of his leprosy, and Elisha just said, send him down here and I'll let him know there's a prophet in Israel.
And very clearly, he just sent Gehaziah's servant out and said, tell him to go jump from the river Jordan and duck seven times and he'll be clean.
And Naaman went away exceedingly angry because he said, I thought for sure he'd at least come out and strike his hand over me and call upon his God, etc.
Finally, one of the servants said, you know, if the prophet had bidden you to do some great thing, would you not have done it?
And he said, well, sure.
Well, he said, how much easier it is just to go jump in the Jordan River and jump seven times and come up clean.
Well, what we want today, we want a very complex answer to a very simple problem.
The problem has basically stemmed from our sin and our rebellion against God and God's law and God's word.
And the answer, of course, is to repent of our sin and come back and once again learn the principles of the word of God.
In fact, all you have to do is read Leviticus 26, Deuteronomy 28, and all those passages which teach the blessings and the curses.
And very obviously, when we disobey God, all of these curses fall upon us.
So there must be repentance individually.
There must be repentance familiar.
There must be repentance ecclesiastically.
And yes, I'll even go ahead and say nationally.
But you've got to remember: nations, countries are made up of individuals.
And it has to start with individuals.
Oh, we at the political set pool, the co-host, myself, Keith Alexander, Eddie the Bombardier-Miller, and Bill Rowan, we have numerous times told James Edwards to go jump in the river, and he won't do it.
It's too cold.
I don't know what his problem is.
I think he's really a sinful man, and he really needs to go jump in the Mississippi there.
Well, just maybe not the deep end.
At least let me wait till the summertime.
Yeah, that's a fact.
Well, let me point out just a couple of things.
I know we don't have a lot of time.
And I would really love to get into the biblical doctrine of self-defense.
I'd love to get into what our founding fathers said about the possession of firearms.
But let me point two or three things out that I think are really important.
Because the liberal politicians, the liberal politicians and the media are already crying for greater gun control.
They're already crying for a limited number of bullets in a magazine and all this kind of stuff.
There's a quote.
It was given by Jeff Snyder and the American Rifleman in October of 1994.
And I want you to listen very carefully.
Can you hear me?
I'm listening.
Okay.
Jeff Snyder said this: but to ban guns because criminals use them is to tell innocent and law-abiding that their rights and liberties depend not upon their conduct, but on the conduct of the guilty and the lawless, and that the law permits them to have only such rights and liberties as the lawless will allow.
For society does not control crime ever by forcing the law-abiding to accommodate themselves to the accepted behavior of criminals.
Society controls crime by forcing the criminals to accommodate themselves to the expected behavior of the law-abiding.
So, what he said is very important.
If we try to ban guns, if we try to ban high-capacity magazines because criminals use them, that is then basing our rights, our liberties, upon the action and the conduct of the criminals.
And you know as well as I do, you could have 40,000 laws saying you can't have a weapon or you can't have a magazine that has more than 10 rounds in it.
And what's the criminal going to do?
He's going to violate the law anyhow.
Laws like that are only for those who are silly enough to say, I'm a law-abiding citizen, I'm going to do this.
The criminal's not going to do it anyhow.
And when some of these politicians come up, like Lawton Berg and some of these others said, well, 10 rounds should be enough for any magazine.
Well, suppose a woman is confronted by five men, and that means two rounds per man.
Do you think she's going to be able to hit every time?
I mean, it could be the 12th round or the 15th round that might save her life.
I mean, when you begin to think about the remedies that our media and our politicians are recommending, it's totally absurd and the height of stupidity.
I remember several years ago when that man in Long Island, he walked onto a subway car, and when the subway started on its path, he pulled out a weapon and began shooting people in that subway.
And he continued to shoot until it stopped and there were police on the scene.
In other words, he stopped shooting when more guns showed up on the scene.
You are absolutely right.
It's maddening that so many of our people will listen to these specious reasonings.
And of course, the people who are putting forth these ideas, they're going to invoke the name of Gabrielle Giffords and the name of that little girl who was buried a few days ago.
And they're going to make a sordid appeal to people's emotions to give up their guns because some 20-year-old screwball decided to blow a sprocket or something.
People don't fall for it.
You know, the interesting thing, the only way that you can stop someone like this is with countervailing force.
In other words, if someone there had been armed, they could have stopped him before he killed all of those people and shot all of those people.
One man, I understand, was armed, but he got there only after the man was basically down.
Jay was down and subdued.
Jason was down and subdued.
And so there was no need to shoot.
But think of all the people in Arizona that have carry permits, and some of them carry even openly, and yet no one was there.
And had someone been there with a weapon, they could have stopped him.
And people are going to say, well, he was wrestled down by six people who didn't have weapons, but that was after he had emptied his 31-round clip.
Yes.
Yes.
That is a fact.
Mr. Weaver, I think we're about out of time.
So I'll just thank you for taking the time to come on our show tonight.
And let's not wait so long before we have you on again.
Wonderful.
I'll be glad to come back anytime that it works out.
Thank you very much, Pastor.
God bless you.
Lord bless you.
Bye-bye.
Well, Winston, another great installment with Pastor Weaver.
And when was the last time he appeared?
It has been a few minutes ago.
It's been a few years, James.
It's been an inexcusably long amount of time.
We shouldn't have let it happen.
I mean, the man is the official chaplain of the political set pool, and, you know, he always delivers.
He does, and that's why he's the official chaplain.
I do want to encourage people to go to his website, www.dominionministry.com.
It's a fabulous resource for history, for theology, for pastoral things.
You cannot go wrong when you lay hold of something from Pastor John Weaver.
You just cannot go wrong.
Well, that's absolutely right.
And I thank you, Winston, for mentioning his web address.
And another thing you can't go wrong to have in your hands is a copy, and we mentioned this at the top of the show, of Keith Alexander's booklet.
And, you know, this is a booklet that we haven't offered for individual sale on the Cesspool website as my book is.
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And that's not all, Winston.
We'll throw in another book.
Do you think you can guess the title before we run out of time?
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