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July 11, 2009 - The Political Cesspool - James Edwards
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Welcome to the Political Cesspool, known worldwide as the South's foremost populous radio program.
And here to guide you through the murky waters of the Political Cesspool is your host, James Edwards.
Welcome back to the show, everyone.
Saturday, July 11th.
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Men who have not just accomplished a great deal in service to our cause, but they just happen to be personal friends of mine.
The first of which is Michael Gaddy, a veteran of Vietnam, Grenada, and Beirut.
He is now serving as a columnist for LewRockwell.com.
Also on the line with us right now from Arkansas, Joe McCutcheon, who is, in my opinion, truly one of this country's foremost advocates of an America-first immigration reform policy.
Joe makes frequent radio appearances, not only on this program, but also talk shows from coast to coast.
He is a tireless patriot who, along with his wife, runs the informative watchdog website, ArkansasFreedom.com.
So Michael and Joe, great to have you with us tonight.
How are you guys?
Are we all?
You are on, Joe.
You are live, buddy.
James, I'm sorry we broke up.
Mike and I are happy to be with you tonight, and hopefully we can throw out some ideas.
It'll stimulate Americana to take back our country, our republic, and run it as the founders had endowed.
Well, and I just had read in the first hour the Distressed Cavaliers blog from your website.
So that'll get people on the right track as to which direction we're going tonight.
Although, I must admit, we have sort of plotted an uncharted course this evening.
In speaking with you yesterday, Joe, we were preparing for this interview with you and Mike appearing in tandem, and we were kind of going over some ideas, and we just pretty much decided, let's just see what direction the wind takes us in.
And I think it's going to make for fun radio because we've got two guys on such as yourself.
You can't go wrong.
Michael, how are you doing tonight, buddy?
Doing great, James.
Good to hear from you, buddy.
Good to hear from you as well.
You know, I have a fond and vivid memory of you and Joe coming into the studios.
Of course, y'all are calling in via telephone tonight, but you were in the studios back in 05.
We had a great, great time together there in person.
And since then, I guess a lot's changed.
I don't know for the better or for the worse.
I guess it would depend on your perspective.
But Michael, you've certainly done a lot of great work since then with your column at LewRockwell.com.
I'd encourage everyone to go check that out.
And one of the things you've been talking about a lot on the blog is defending our Second Amendment rights.
And that's something that's always near and dear to my heart.
Of course, in Tennessee, actually, Tennessee is doing okay as far as that goes.
And you don't have a lot of good news to report in this day and age.
But Tennessee, I don't know if you read it, Mike, just actually passed a law where you can take your firearm into a bar now.
I don't know about you, but there's nothing I like more than having a bottle of jack in one hand and my gun in the other.
Well, there's that old saying, James, that in some of the bars in the South, if you didn't have a gun when you got there, they issued you one.
Well, that's apparently in Shelby County, or it's all of Tennessee now, although the liberals of Shelby County are just up in arms about it.
And anything that irks them makes me happy.
But guys, all kidding aside, it's great to have you this evening.
So, Joe, I'll turn it back over to you.
Which issue should we tackle first?
What was the question?
I think Joe's having some problems hearing you there.
The question was, Joe, is what issue do you want to tackle first?
Well, I think perhaps socialized medicine, James, would be the thing that ought to scare every American to death.
This is just a form of genocide, rationed health care.
It's never worked anywhere around the globe, and I don't know why these criminals in Washington don't understand that.
Well, of course, the whole destruction of this republic is by design, and the way, one of the many ways that they've crafted to create the reduction in the population is through medicine and rationed health care.
Even at my age, I'm just mortified to think that I can't select my doctor and pay for the kind of health care I desire.
These very technical, expensive procedures are going to be left only to a chosen few.
And then the big question in my mind, we have, in spite of what the feds will state, we have in our republic some 25 to 35 million illegals.
I would like to know what their plan is for the illegals here.
And we have another 3 million or so legals and illegals penetrating our borders yearly.
So only a fool can continue to pursue such a destructive policy.
And American citizens have got to wake up and wake up soon because in Obama's mind and the Congress's mind, particularly the Democrats, this is a done deal.
Well, you know, Joe, you bring up a very interesting subject because we pride ourselves on tackling all of the issues of the political spectrum.
And Obama's socialized health care is really something that's sort of slipped through the cracks, I'm ashamed to admit.
And I appreciate you for bringing it to the forefront tonight because as you've mentioned, this has not worked anywhere.
I have friends in Europe who call me and say, you know, what's the matter with America?
All of the countries over here have socialized health care.
You know, why doesn't America have it yet?
Well, yeah, all the countries in Europe have it, and to their own detriment.
I mean, it is absolutely bankrupting the already bankrupt systems over there.
And I don't know how much more in debt America could risk to fall into, but this would be more of the same, and it's not going to work.
It's never worked.
And, Joe, I think the other issue you bring up is something that goes hand in hand with it.
Now that the Democrats have the super majority in Washington, they can really pass through anything they want.
Wouldn't it be just horrific if they passed amnesty and then passed socialized health care or did it in inverse order, either way?
That really could be two of the final death knells in the American coffin.
Michael, what say you?
Well, I think that's exactly right, James.
There's no doubt that that's a move that the I don't think just Democrats.
I think it's a planned move by all of our government.
And it also, I think, something else we need to tie into that is this sudden pandemic with the swine flu.
Talking with some medical professionals last week, medical professionals are telling me they think the swine flu and this sudden inoculation and the fact that they're going to demand that everybody receive immunization is a contrived thing.
Most of the people in the medical industry don't know what this swine flu thing is to start with.
Well, I wonder how big of an issue this really is.
Now, I'm not going to say it's not serious, but obviously it's not something that's killing everyone.
And to my knowledge, there haven't been more than a few hundred cases of this worldwide yet.
The government has scared us into believing this is some sort of a pandemic that needs their immediate attention.
We have to have the government's help on this if we're going to survive it.
Am I misreading this, Michael, in your opinion?
Oh, I think that we're definitely, they're setting us up.
When in history have we ever had a pandemic declared because we had 100 cases of something?
Exactly.
See, now we're on the same page.
Well, we were on the same page before, but you're reading what I'm saying, and that's exactly what I'm saying.
Well, there's another point to be considered here.
This is, for all intents and purposes, is a new viral discovery.
You do not isolate a chemical compound to combat a new viral pathologic organism in 30 days or 60 days.
This takes years and years of research.
And as a pharmacist, I understand what goes into the creation of a new compound to combat such a deadly virus, if in fact it does exist.
And I'm very skeptical of that, as Mike alluded to.
We got 100 cases, 200 cases.
That is not a pandemic.
Yet the government has identified a pandemic before it even occurs.
So this is just another by design to scare emotional Americana into making some stupid decisions.
It's just that simple.
I will also say that with the compound, it's being told now, and I happen to agree with it, that in the new foods that are being genetically engineered,
along with these compounds being put together by major pharma, that compounds are being put into this to prevent birth control, to sterilize, all sorts of possibilities in this.
And it's can't thumb your nose.
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We've got to go to break.
Yeah, quite a few words.
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And we have two great ones this evening, Michael Gaddy, a columnist for LewRockwell.com, and Joe McCutcheon, a noted political commentator.
We're talking about the issues of socialized health care and illegal immigration right now.
Joe, before we go to the phones, you're finishing up a point, finishing up a point right before that last commercial break.
like to give you the opportunity to finish your thought.
Are you with us, Joe?
I'm not sure he can hear you, James.
Sorry, Michael.
Michael, you might need to translate.
Okay.
All right.
Hold on one second.
Let me tell him.
Hey, Joe.
Yes.
Continue with your discussion on the pandemic and the compound.
Well, the thing that scares me is that, first of all, a show of force is being used here.
The federal government stated that they will see that every American undergoes these vaccinations.
And that is not what this country is based on.
And again, I want to point this out.
This is, in my judgment, a created catastrophe before it happens.
And I'm highly suspect of the legitimacy of any of this.
And the fact that word has leaked out of the health departments across the country that various other compounds have been attached to a viral molecule to induce sterility, birth control, and other unwanted side effects.
So this is just another way of the many ways that our republic is on the precipice of destruction.
If you will note how many things Obama has done that is in diametric opposition to what the founders wish and what our past leadership has allowed our republic to achieve preeminence.
And in my judgment, if this pattern is to continue, and I see nothing that can stop it, we are going to explode, and I mean explode rapidly.
I don't think there's any intention of these bailouts ever being paid back.
It's my judgment that there are a number of other processes going on that ensure destruction.
And I think that as they achieve the results they want, they will cancel out all debt, institute a new currency, and leave middle-class America, whom they're trying to wipe out.
We're the bulwark of this nation, which will leave us with nothing, and they will assume absolute control of the populace.
And that's precisely, in my judgment, what they're looking for.
Pretty scary stuff, but all trends would dictate that we are slowly marching towards that end.
I mean, you mentioned the bailouts, Joe.
Obviously, that's a precursor to nationalized, socialized government, excuse me, health care, and so on and so forth.
But gentlemen, I do want to say a lot of calls coming in for you.
Before we go to the phones, I want to mention that we first got together, so to speak, back in 2005, as I didn't mention before, but we were covering the Minutemen project.
Now, the political cessville was talking about the Minuteman project before the national news media was.
And Michael, I believe it was you that was calling in with a live report from the border every night during April of 2005 for 15, 30 minutes, a pop.
That was back when we were on Five Nights a Week Live.
And I just want to say what a good time that was.
The Minuteman Project didn't really turn out the way we hoped it would, but that's how we all got started.
And I said that because the caller who's coming in now, Marcus from South Dakota, I believe he has a question that's right up y'all's alley.
It's regarding the California being bankrupt and what the effect of illegal immigration has had on their bankruptcy.
Marcus, you are on the line with Joe McCutcheon and Michael Gaddy.
Yes, sir.
Good evening from South Dakota.
I'm Marcus.
I have a caller from South Dakota.
What's your question?
Yes, sir.
My brother lives in San Jose, California, and your guests used the term imploding.
Well, my brothers take statements to me about how much crime, the incarceration, the free health care, housing, the illegal immigration, how many billions is California wasted?
That's what I'd like your take on.
Thank you so much for the call from South Dakota.
Thank you, Marcus.
Mike, I'll turn that one over to you.
And Joe, you can obviously opine as well.
I guess basically the question was, with California being bankrupt, how many billions of dollars in debt has been incurred because of the illegal alien invasion of California, Mike?
Well, it's huge, James.
And be honest with you, this entire country is broke.
It's not just California.
We're all living on borrowed money, which the debt's going to come due very soon.
But a great majority of that debt, or a quite substantial part of that debt, has occurred because of our financing of people who have come into this country to live on the backs of those who work.
Isn't it interesting that non-citizens can get the kind of benefits that working-class middle-American can never get?
It defies belief.
Well, recently in California, Schwarzenegger actually took money away from disabled children, but he refused to discontinue his financial support for education for illegals.
Well, that's the Republican M.O.
They believe that their key to future success is out-pandering the Democrats for minority votes, which is never going to work.
They're not going to be able to do it.
Well, in my opinion, the Republican Party ceased to exist when they failed to embrace Ron Paul because he stood for every principle that every Republican says they stand for.
But yet they decided they would rather try to out-Democrat the Democrats.
Well, they put forth the perfect candidate in order to do that, John McCain.
He just felt a little bit short, but no, I agree with you as well.
Joe, if you can hear me over there, I know we have a bit of a sketchy connection, but could you even guess, guesstimate as to what amount of damage the illegal aliens have done to California in terms of its budget?
Are you asking what the damage to illegal aliens in California?
Yeah, well, that was the question that came in from the caller from South Dakota.
Well, I can tell you what's happening in Arkansas.
All right, give us Arkansas.
We have a situation in Arkansas, which is a poor state by standards, but we have the biggest corporation in the world housed in the Northwest Quadrant.
That's right.
And they have tremendous political influence.
And what they can't influence, they buy or otherwise.
I'm talking about the Tysons, the Waltons, the Georges, et cetera, et cetera.
What has happened here, they have used their power to pass legislation on the backs of middle-class Arkansas.
And I can't strongly say too many times that it's the middle-class Americana that is the backbone, the heart, and soul of this republic.
And what all across America, the political elitists are trying to wipe us out.
Now back to the point.
A few years ago, let's see, it was in 2001, 2003, excuse me, the Arkansas legislature passed a law, and I don't think this is the only law in the United States, to give prenatal health care to illegal alien women.
The cost, as best I can ascertain, and I've FOI'd a number of government agencies, and I come up with a figure that as of now, it costs to birth an illegal alien, which is an anchor baby, when they hit the ground, they're citizens.
Hold that figure.
We're going to get you there.
Don't go away.
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Welcome back to the show, everyone.
James Edwards here with you in the political festival this evening.
Our guests are Michael Gaddy, columnist for LewRockwell.com, and Joe McCutcheon, who administers the website ArkansasFreedom.com, and among other things, the political commentator who has single-handedly waged war against the establishment in Arkansas on behalf of an America-first immigration reform policy.
Joe, before the break, we were asked a question from a caller about what the effects of illegal immigration have contributed to the debt of California.
James, since this law was passed, the cost of delivering an anchor baby in Arkansas is $18,000 a head.
When this program first started and I began to FOIA, we had 2,500 in the first year.
Now it's up to 15,000 illegal Mexican and OTM women taking advantage of this free prenatal service in our state.
Now, bear in mind that every anchor baby born is an American citizen and they are on the welfare program should they desire till they're 21 years of age.
And in that time span, they can bring over from Mexico or any of these other Latin American countries all of their immediate kin.
Now we have Governor Mike Huckabee, former Huckabee governor, to responsible for this.
As I understand it, he's now third in the Republican poll for the next presidential candidate.
And this shows you how dumbed down the American citizens have become to put an individual like Mike Huckabee as third in the presidential race.
He was responsible for bringing in a Mexican consulate.
He had private meetings with former President Vincenti Fox of Mexico.
This is a direct violation of Article 1, Section 10 of the U.S. Constitution.
He performed this act without congressional approval.
And he alone has been responsible in concert with the Waltons, the Tysons, the Stevens, etc., for absolutely destroying the Middle-class American position in Arkansas as far as employment and standard of living.
And we have to expose this man for the criminal acts he's been involved in, and they are many.
So illegal immigration is destroying our state.
And our governor has the ability, if he would enforce the law, to protect the sovereignty of our state, as does every other governor in the 50 states.
They will not acknowledge it, and they're traitors for not acknowledging it.
Well, Joe, I mean, you answer the question perfectly.
First of all, let me state that even if you are an American citizen with great health insurance, you still have to pay several thousand dollars to deliver a baby.
Illegal aliens in Arkansas can deliver them free of charge.
That's a crime in and of itself.
So you just multiply the kind of numbers that Joe has given you in a state like Arkansas, and you get an idea.
Well, I guess you can't even get an idea of what a state like California would be, what kind of duress they're under.
But guys, let me say this also.
And you mentioned Huckabee, Joe.
If people want to know the real Mike Huckabee, go to arkansafreedom.com.
Do yourself a favor and learn about this guy.
Joe McCutcheon has done an excellent job of delivering an expose on the real Mike Huckabee at ArkansasFreedom.com.
A lot of calls are coming in for both of you, Michael Gaddy and Joe McCutchin.
I want to go back to the phones, and Mike, you can take this one.
Let's go to Mikey.
Mikey in Ohio.
Mikey, you're on the line with Mike Gatty and Joe McCutcheon.
Mikey, are you with us?
Mikey, Ohio.
All right, let's go to Clint from Missouri.
Clint, are you here?
Clint from Missouri.
Yeah, how's it going, guys?
Good to hear from you.
I was just going to say, you know, illegal immigration is getting bad in Missouri as well.
Seems to be on the southwest part of the state where Tyson and a lot of the large meat packers and chicken producers are.
I was in Branson a couple weeks ago.
I was out there for about a week.
And I hadn't been out there for about five years.
And I noticed something very different there this time.
There's a lot of immigrants out there now.
And I can just see the ruination of Missouri before my eyes.
And one of the main people I hold responsible for it was Republican Senator Jim Talent before he got defeated.
And I think we need to keep watch on him because it became very clear to me there's a big portion of Republicans that are wanting Romney to win the presidential nomination next time around.
And there was word going around in Missouri that he was going to pick Jim Talent to be his vice president.
And I think the plan is still in play.
My question for Mike and the rest of y'all, you know, I don't know what you think about Sarah Palin, but she seems to be very disliked by mainstream Republicans.
Is she going to be a valid alternative to the rest of them should she decide to run?
Well, that's a great question, Clint.
And let me be clear that this is on the line now, a man who is a hero of mine, Clint Lacey, who is an alderman in Marble Hill, Missouri.
And he serves as a testament to what you can do if you put your mind to it.
This man ran for and won elected office in Missouri and has done a great job as city alderman of Marble Hill.
Thank you for the question, Clint.
Michael Gaddy, I'll turn it over to you.
He asked about Sarah Palin.
Any redeeming qualities in her?
She seems to be very much disliked amongst the mainstream.
Does that mean that she's one of us or not?
Well, she's been attacked by almost everyone.
I believe the attacks are because they see her as a viable candidate in 2012.
I personally would not vote for her.
I see too many things that are traditional politician about her.
You know, she supposedly stands for some things and then the other things, you know, she believes in too many facts of socialism for me.
And that seems to be true of all politicians today.
Well, it was just a miracle, I think, Mike, that Ron Paul ran for president on the Republican Party banner other than Ron Paul and Pat Buchanan.
I can't think of any Republican in the past decade that I would vote for.
Very few Republican candidates are worthy of our votes.
Well, most of them are just, you know, Democrat-like.
And I heard on NPR the other day two officials with the Republican Party saying their only chance for the Republican Party to survive is to out-Democrat the Democrats.
Well, the Shelby County Republican Party chairman said that the master plan to win election for Republican candidates in Shelby County is to go to the minority neighborhoods and recruit new voters from the minority neighborhoods, which means the non-white neighborhoods, of course.
And he said, well, you know, it might take five, ten, or even 15 years before they vote for us, but that's what we're going to have to do.
The Republican Party won't last that long, James.
Well, I agree with you.
I mean, they've already lost.
I mean, even in the last election, they lost main states like Virginia and Florida.
And once Texas reached the tipping point, it's close to getting there.
They will never be able to even remotely compete on a national election again.
They're going to be losing all the big states, New York, California, Texas, Florida.
They're done.
But, Joe, I agree.
This question is straight from you, and this came also from Clinton.
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Joe, we only have a couple of minutes until break, but one thing Clint from Missouri commented on was that the complexion, so to speak, of Branson, Missouri has really changed and that Tyson, Tyson's food, was complicit in that change.
And this is a corporation that you have a lot of intimate knowledge of.
Correct, Joe?
James, you've heard me make this statement on numerous occasions.
Both political parties are constitutionally and criminally corrupt to the core.
And only a fool will continue to support Democrats and Republicans.
We must vote out every incumbent if our republic is to survive.
There is no other chance.
This is it.
And just I ask you to look at what the Bush administration did in eight years.
Obama, he set the table for Obama.
And Obama is nothing but a Marxist socialist.
And I'm quite certain in my own mind he's a foreign national.
And this bailout that he has gone, you know, they voted for this in the dead of night, $787 billion.
They said we've got to do it today because this whole country's falling.
They've only spent 7% of that original $787 billion.
Now then, they're proposing.
Well, Joe, as always, we keep beginning talking.
It's time to go to break.
Sit tonight, my friend.
We'll be back right after this.
We'll let you put that thought.
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Welcome back to the show.
I'm not kidding you when I say that this hour is going by far too quickly.
And it's obviously due to the fact that we have guests like Mike Gatty and Joe McCutcheon on the air with us.
We have more phone calls than we can handle right now coming in for these two gentlemen.
We're going to try to take some more calls.
They're in the third hour, so just be patient with us.
But Joe, back to you right off the bat.
You were making a very astute point before the break.
Well, the point I was making, James, I'll make it again.
Both the Democrat and Republican parties are constitutionally and criminally corrupt.
And as long as they can keep Americana, particularly middle-class Americans, wrapped up in nebulous type thoughts, discussing liberal, conservative, left, right, Republican, that's exactly where the politicians want us because they know there is no thinking-thought process going on, and we're nothing but knaves to their devious type of activities.
So the only way we can exert ourselves and assert ourselves is vote these incumbent bums out.
And that's precise.
Their whole mission when they're elected is to stay elected, whatever it takes.
Their mission is not to discuss constitutional and moral and ethical principles.
It is to stay in office.
And this bunch we have now is by far the most dangerous, corrupted government activity we've ever had in our republic.
And we've got to get rid of them.
And if we don't, and I'm talking about every one of them in office, I don't care who they are, they've got to go.
And you say, well, what if we elect something worse?
That's okay.
They can't learn the system in two and four years.
And we can vote them out at that time.
Americans have got to be smarter than they've shown.
We don't deserve this republic, and we're not going to have it long if Americans don't wake up, get off their desks, and start acting like Americans.
Well, Joe, along those lines, I believe we have a caller now, Richie.
Richie from New Orleans, who wants to ask you exactly how that can be done.
Richie, am I wrong?
Richie, you're on the line with James Edwards, Joe McCutcheon, and Mike Gatty.
What's your question?
Hey, James, I enjoyed seeing you on CNN about a year or so ago when you put it to that bloated bigot, Ronald Martin.
That was great.
Well, thank you so much.
It's always good to have a fan from my CNN exposure.
That makes me feel good.
I don't know the gentleman who just spoke, but I think we do deserve what we have, the government we have, and the corruption.
And I just don't see you.
Vote them out.
Are you kidding?
Voting doesn't work.
You know, I don't want to discourage anyone if they think that it's their constitutional right or somehow they're going to get their voice heard by going to some voting booth.
But that obviously is not the answer.
I don't know really what it is.
I just don't see this thing ending well.
And I'd like you guys' opinion on that.
Well, thanks for the call from New Orleans.
Joe, back to you on that, and then we'll go to Mike.
I think there is something.
Now, listen, I vote every time.
Well, of course, what the gentleman said from New Orleans is absolutely correct.
But if you recall, I said our last chance under a civil type of act is to vote these bums out.
Now, and he admitted he didn't have the answer, and nor do I.
But we must keep trying through legitimate and constitutional means.
And as I see, we only have one, and that's to vote these bums out.
Mike, would you comment on this, please?
Sure, Joe.
As a matter of fact, I don't think anybody could care more about you than I do as a patriot.
But guys, I do not believe there's a political solution to the mess we're in.
This thing is so corrupt, I don't think it can be changed.
I don't see any answers out there.
I mean, we had an answer in 2008, and his name was Ron Paul.
And he stood for honest, legitimate government.
And exactly how many Americans voted for him.
Well, that's a question.
And I want to turn this back over to you as well, Mike.
I want you to continue on with your commentary because I voted for Ron Paul.
Ron Paul, in fact, I've been voting since 1988, excuse me, 1998.
10 years now.
I'm only 29 years old.
But Ron Paul was the first and only Republican that I've ever voted for.
And like everyone else, he didn't win.
I've never voted for anyone who's won.
That includes myself, and I ran for state representative in 2002.
So lost characters, James.
I saw more Ron Paul bumper stickers in Memphis than any other of the Republican candidates combined.
Now, do you believe that Ron Paul really got stomped that badly, or do you believe, that so many people do, there is vote fraud at play?
Well, there's a corporation called D-Bold, and D-Bold admitted, you can find it on YouTube, D-Bold admitted that they could control any election in the United States and admitted that they did control an election in the United States in 2006.
I mean, when they actually stand up before Congress and admit it, why are we even participating in the charade?
Well, you know, and again, I agree with both of you.
I have strong reason to believe that my vote is not counted accurately.
But I also agree with Joe.
Our only option is to vote the bums out.
So we really have a dichotomy there, I guess you would say.
I mean, we really have, it's not a very good circumstance.
I mean, our best option is something that we have to hope is being counted accurately, and we really have no hope to believe that.
Well, there was a red-headed gentleman in our ancestry and one of the founders of this country who said in one of his writings that it is incumbent, and check the meaning of that, he said it is incumbent upon the people of this country to throw out a corrupt government.
Well, you know, throw them out if you can, I guess, would be the asterisk to that.
I mean, and that goes back to what we're saying.
I just, I really have a hard time believing either every Ron Paul supporter put a bumper sticker on their car or he had more support than what was being displayed in the polls.
I don't know.
It doesn't pay to find out.
I mean, it would be only speculation, and it doesn't pay to speculate.
Oh, for sure.
This is something that we need to, I don't even know.
You can't look into it.
I don't know what you can do.
It really just causes for more frustration, and there's a lot of frustration to be had with the.
James, if I may, could I go back to the Second Amendment for a second?
Let's go to it, Mike, because that's the one thing we have to fall back on.
All right.
I was discussing, and I have been discussing with three very good informants in Chicago, two of them who happen to be police officers, who have been giving me information for some time.
I'm getting ready to put together an article.
If you will remember, the American government is claiming that one of the problems in Mexico is the flow of firearms from America into Mexico.
These people in Chicago are showing me with documentation that they've been faxing me that actually the firearms were flowing in the other direction and that firearms are coming in with the drugs that are being sold in Chicago.
Well, I mean, what more can you say than that, Mike?
Well, it's these guys have, they're also showing me, and I don't want to expose too much, but these guys are showing me street reports that are coming in on the number of crimes.
And as you know, handguns have been outlawed in Chicago since 86.
And they are showing that the tremendous increase in handgun committed felonies in the city of Chicago, especially in the former state senator named Obama in his district, the huge amount of increase in crime involving guns that are illegal, and they want to take them away from all of us.
There's something wrong with that picture.
Well, to me, Mike, and I know you would agree because this is an issue that you write about time and time again, and very well done, I might add, on your blog at LewRockwell.com.
There's no more open and shut case throughout the political spectrum than gun control, or so-called gun control.
Obviously, when you outlaw the right to carry, when you circumvent the Second Amendment, the only people who are going to adhere to that law are the people who are, by definition, law-abiding citizens.
So the only people who are going to turn in their guns are the people who aren't committing crimes.
The criminals are never going to turn in their guns.
I mean, it just goes without saying.
And so obviously, in areas where you have strict gun control, you're going to have more crime.
That's just a fact of the matter.
Mike, and this information you're giving us, and I want to give Joe a chance to have the final word before we get time.
We only have a couple of minutes.
Are you documenting any of this on your blog, or will you be documenting this in the future?
Yeah, it will be coming out real soon.
I'm working on this article in Chicago.
Another thing I'm working on is a new article I have called Proud to Be a Domestic Terrorist because they are passing laws that are saying anyone who believes in the Constitution, believes in the Second Amendment, or believes abortion to be murder or domestic terrorists.
And I'm just damn proud to be one.
Well, we're all domestic terrorists.
We're all racist.
We're all xenophobes and homophobes.
And any other thing that the mainstream media would like to call us, if being a God-fearing American paleoconservative, if that's what constitutes a domestic terrorist, then damn it, I'm proud to be one too.
Then can I put you on my article as being one of my cohorts?
Please do, Mike.
I would be honored.
I would be honored to be in the same company as you, whether we're in the docket, in the gulag, what have you.
I'm proud to stand by your side.
I appreciate that, buddy.
This hour has gone by as if it were only a couple of minutes.
A final word from you, Joe McCutcheon.
Well, James, an overview of America.
A country that involves themselves in preemptive strikes around the globe, taking over health care, taking over private enterprises.
It's in debt trillions of dollars is not long for standing.
And we are on the precipice of an absolute explosion, a constitutional and legal and ethical explosion.
And Americans have got to wake up.
We have to take action.
And I'm at the point, you know, there was a lady authorist that said it's too late to work in the system, and it's too soon to kill the bastards.
I'm not too sure the last part of that is not ready to go.
Joe's McCutcheon, Michael Gaddy.
Thank you so much for your time this evening.
Check out Mike at LewRockwell.com.
Check out Joe at ArkansasFreedom.com.
Gentlemen, I love you very much.
I'm proud to stand by your side.
We'll see you next time.
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