Rubio Goes OFF On European Globalists, DEMANDS Europe End Death By Migration
Marco Rubio’s Munich Security Conference speech—garnering 150K+ likes and 3.6M views—accused Europe of undermining Western civilization through post-WWII mass migration, framing it as a "suicidal" policy that erodes cultural identity by 2030. Restore Britain Party’s Charlie Downs echoed this, calling for deportations, bans on halal/kosher slaughter and burqas, and reversing legal immigration, citing grooming gangs and economic burdens while dismissing tolerance as a defining British value. Their rise reflects a backlash against liberal multiculturalism, positioning cultural heritage over political systems as the key to national survival. [Automatically generated summary]
It's really, in a lot of ways, more of the same that we've seen in Britain and the United States.
So we're going to get into that.
We're going to cover the launch of the Restore Britain Party.
That was the party that Rupert Lowe announced is going to be founded.
And they started up over the weekend.
And pretty much everything we've seen out of them so far is extremely promising to the point where I think there's quite a few things that here in the United States we could be taking from the Restore Britain playbook.
Very exciting stuff.
And we're going to bring on Restore Britain's very own Charlie Downs for the interview portion of this show.
I'm very excited to talk to Charlie and we're going to break down sort of every element of Restore, more importantly, how it affects the United States because this is an American show.
Like I said, this is all American around here.
We're very chauvinistically American around these parts.
But it'll be interesting to see what our buddies over in the UK are up to.
And like I said, how that impacts the United States.
So we'll bring him on.
Very excited about all of that.
But I think we should just jump right into the show.
No faff and about.
Let's get into this first story.
This is the headline from NBC News.
Marco Rubio has warmer words for Europe weeks after Trump's harsh Davos comments.
So obviously Trump at Davos a few weeks ago was addressing down Europe.
He was going on and on about how they need to be pulling their weight.
They're selling themselves out.
It's all true.
Europe really has just taken America's generous defense strategy for granted.
And they've been enjoying this umbrella of protection and sort of sitting on their hands and really taking snips at us all the time.
I mean, these European leaders just rail on Trump all the time and they posture to their voting basis of how they're standing up to Trump's, you know, overreaching authoritarianism.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
I don't know if this is quite the case.
I don't know if NBC really has quite the correct characterization here of what actually went down in this speech.
Warmer words for Europe, maybe warmer words for Europeans, that is true, but it's certainly not warm words for Europe's leaders.
He chastised the globalist mass migration really regime that's gripped Europe for since World War II, quite frankly.
It's completely torched them.
It's fantastic stuff.
He also, you know, gave a lot of thoughts on the climate policies out in Europe.
So really fantastic speech.
I'm just going to read a little bit here of what NBC News had to say.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio spoke at the Munich Security Conference on Saturday in an apparent effort to paper over cracks in the relationship between the U.S. and Europe.
Though foreign diplomats were less convinced that real change would follow.
Again, this is just not a correct characterization of what actually happened.
He didn't go there with the intention of papering over cracks.
I think he's fairly consistent with what President Trump and Vice President Vance have said over the last few weeks, which is Europe needs to be strong.
An alliance where one is just carrying the others on an alliance, that's a charity.
Marco Rubio echoed all these same sentiments.
He was just in his speech emphasizing the actual real link between Europe and America.
That has nothing to do with the governments.
That has to do with the people themselves.
That's why it was so fantastic.
His direct appeal to Europe on Saturday is a marked change from President Donald Trump's disparagement in Davos last month, where the leader claimed parts of Europe were being destroyed and said that the U.S. had never gotten anything from the NATO alliance, which is just objectively true.
And Marco Rubio didn't debate that or deny that.
So I don't understand the editorializing here.
Rubio received a standing ovation for his warmer words in Munich, telling the largely European audience, in the time of headlines heralding the end of the transatlantic era, let it be known and clear to all that this is neither our goal nor our wish, because for us Americans, our home may be in the Western Hemisphere, but we will always be a child of Europe, which is true.
And this isn't a departure from the previous rhetoric of the Trump admission.
This is what's so ridiculous from NBC here with their rhetoric.
JD Vance said the same thing.
He said, we don't like what's happening to Europe.
We're just simply trying to push European leaders in the direction of standing on their own two feet.
That's what we're trying to do here.
Mark Rubio is just echoing that.
Again, this is just ridiculous.
And a speech aimed at reducing tensions stoked over Greenland and threats of further tariffs.
America's top diplomat said the U.S. is not abandoning its oldest allies.
Is this something that Trump and JD Vance said that we're abandoning our oldest allies?
Again, they just said, you guys need to be strong.
We're not going to, again, we're not a charity.
Quote, the United States will once again take on the task of renewal and restoration, driven by a vision of a future as a proud, as sovereign, and as vital as our civilization's past, he said.
And while we are prepared, if necessary, to do this alone, it's our preference and it is our hope to do this together with you, our friends here in Europe.
For the United States, in Europe, we belong together.
Here, I'll just skip to this part.
Rubio's speech was notably more diplomatic than Vice President JD Vance's harsh attack on European culture and politics at the same event one year ago.
Again, where he's just saying they're weak, which is true, and Mark Rubio did not deny that fact.
European leaders were relieved that the White House decided to send Rubio to the event, which in the past has usually been attended by vice presidents.
Of course, Democrats, Libtards, you name it, were skeptical that the speech reflected any real change in the Trump administration's stance because it doesn't.
The Trump administration's stance is going to be consistent here.
And this is exactly what their stance is.
Rubio strongly criticized Europe's migration and climate policies in the speech, warning that, quote, unprecedented levels of mass migration threaten the, quote, cohesion of our societies, the continuity of our culture, and the future of our people.
This is entirely consistent with what Trump and Vance have said thus far.
And this is why this is important.
So the way that NBC News is sort of portraying Mark Rubio's words here, you in the audience, the listener here, you may be thinking, wow, this just kind of sounds like neocon strategy, like global, it sounds like globalism.
This sounds like, you know, we're trying to keep these old institutions going, you know, trying to basically save embers here.
But that's not actually what Mark Rubio is doing in this speech.
Mark Arubio in this speech laid out the right-wing case for a connection between America and Europe.
It was a very, very right-wing speech.
That's why it did the numbers.
This is drastically different rhetoric-wise than any previous administration where they, you know, previously when, you know, Bush officials or Obama officials or even Biden officials would get up and talk about our alliances with Europe, they would allude to shared values, you know, shared, you know, we share a democracy.
We're both democracies.
They would point to the only things, the only links that we had with Europe were post-war institutions.
Where Mark Arubio didn't talk about that at all, really.
He didn't really care.
He was talking about the very real connection between the peoples.
That's what makes this a very right-wing pitch for a collaboration and connection with Europe.
He doesn't really care about the institutions.
He didn't make any appeals to shared democracy or he didn't make that the focal point of the speech.
He was saying, no, we have a shared lineage.
America was founded by Europeans.
We are the child of Europe, which is just true.
The child that's, I think, at this point, you know, overshadowed their parents.
I think that's for certain.
But he was saying, look, American people, the actual native core population of America is descended from Europeans.
That is why there is a very real link between America and Europe.
And he said this basically explicitly, which is why it was such a rhetorical breath of fresh air for all of us on the right.
Because it's like, yes, that is the case for collaboration with Europe, which is we are directly linked because of our heritage, because of our lineage.
That's obvious.
That's why Americans care about Britain.
That's why Americans care about France, Germany, Spain.
Because we feel a familial bond to these countries.
Because, again, they are similar to us.
That's the entire reason why these alliances seem so natural in many ways.
So I'm going to get into some of it.
I would love to just play the 20-minute speech that Rubio gave.
I just don't know if that would be the best use of our time because you should just go watch it anyway.
But I will show a few clips here.
This one from Mark Rubio with the 148,000 likes, 3.6 million views.
Clearly, this struck a nerve.
I'm going to play this clip here.
Take a look.
Here's the copy.
We do not want allies shackled by guilt and shame.
We want allies who are proud of their culture and heritage and are willing to help us defend it.
We want allies who can defend themselves so that no adversary will ever be tempted to test our collective strength.
This is why we do not want our allies to be shackled by guilt and shame.
We want allies who are proud of their culture and of their heritage, who understand that we are heirs to the same great and noble civilization and who, together with us, are willing and able to defend it.
And this is why we do not want allies to rationalize the broken status quo rather than reckon with what is necessary to fix it.
That's what Vance and Trump have also said for the record.
That is what they've been saying.
They're saying, we can't build alliances with people who hate themselves.
You can't build alliances with countries that are suicidal.
That's impossible.
And in this speech, Marco Rubio explains what is it about Europe that's undercutting their strength?
What is it about Europe that is making them weak?
What is it about Europe that makes them an unreliable ally?
He points to it.
He says mass migration, these ridiculous climate policies.
That is what he is talking about.
That is what makes them weak.
That is what makes it impossible to develop an alliance with these countries.
Our hands being forced here.
We don't want to break from Europe.
It would be nice if they were strong and we could sort of impose our will on the world.
But we can't do that if they're insistent on replacing their own people with a third world.
You can't, there's no alliance to be made there.
You're going to hitch your wagon to someone that's suicidal.
That's ridiculous.
That's impossible to do.
So, yes, we want allies who are proud of their culture and heritage.
We're sick of seeing Keir Starmer, Emmanuel Macron, all these different leaders from across Europe who are like embarrassed by their country's history, who are constantly making apologies, who hate their own people.
They're saying, you know, like Kirstarmer will be like, Britain's enriched by all these foreigners.
Because that implies that the British people in and of themselves, the Englishmen, the Scots, are somehow lacking something, that they're desperate, that Britain is not complete until you've mixed in Indians and Pakistanis and Afghans and whatnot.
That's ridiculous.
That's just preposterous.
Britain conquered the entire world from their little island.
So clearly, they're not lacking in anything.
And that's really what Marco Rubio is trying to get at.
I want to play this clip.
It's a bit longer, but this is just fantastic stuff here.
This is the clip everyone's talking about.
Let me see how many likes it has.
This one's at 37K, but portions of the clip read 100K.
For five centuries, before the end of the Second World War, the West had been expanding.
Its missionaries, its pilgrims, its soldiers, its explorers pouring out from its shores to cross oceans, settle new continents, build vast empires extending out across the globe.
But in 1945, for the first time since the age of Columbus, it was contracting.
Europe was in ruins.
Half of it lived behind an iron curtain, and the rest looked like it would soon follow.
The great Western empires had entered into terminal decline, accelerated by godless communist revolutions and by anti-colonial uprisings that would transform the world and drape the red hammer and sickle across vast swaths of the map in the years to come.
Against that backdrop, then, as now, many came to believe that the West's age of dominance had come to an end and that our future was destined to be a faint and feeble echo of our past.
But together, our predecessors recognized that decline was a choice.
I think you should just go watch the full speech if you haven't yet.
We in America have no interest in being polite and orderly caretakers of the West manager client.
I mean, that is like unbelievable.
That's an unbelievable statement.
It's oxygen, really.
It's just oxygen to hear this coming from the Secretary of State, the top diplomat from the United States.
This is absolutely the case.
Europe, by extension, America, but European civilization was in a constant state of expansion.
Yes, from the age of Columbus, even before then, but certainly since the age of Columbus, we had so much confidence in ourselves.
We had so much, I think we correctly recognized that we had the best, we had the sauce, you know, right?
You know, for lack of a better word, we had the sauce.
This needed to be extended to the world.
It was a gift to the world.
This is why to this day, you will see people from Africa, from India, the Middle East, Latin America, desperate to come to our countries because these people are desperate to live under Western governance.
That's what's going on.
They correctly recognize.
They correctly recognize.
They correctly recognize that there's something special about Western civilization, that there's something there that they need to be a part of.
That Western civilization, everything it touches, turns to gold.
That everything that the Western civilization governs over improves.
The state, the condition improves.
There's just no doubt about it.
And to Mark Arubio's point, following World War II, we kind of lost our mojo, right?
The West started to doubt itself.
The West started to doubt its ability to, you know, produce civilization.
It doubted its ability to govern responsibly.
Really, just a regime of self-hatred blanketed over the West.
That's why you saw these different European empires disassemble their empire.
They disassembled their empires.
They started cutting colonies loose.
In some cases, for literally no reason.
Famous, it's not famous, but it's one of my favorite tidbits: the British Empire, they were in control of Yemen, where you see all the action now.
It was just called Aden back then.
And they cut Yemen loose with like a budgetary line.
Like they just put a line in it, like in 1950 or something, they just, with a budgetary line, just cut Yemen loose.
And that was the end of British rule in Yemen.
Like these countries, these nations just had zero confidence in themselves.
They just did not have confidence anymore for a variety of reasons.
And so Mark Rubio is saying, no, we need that back, that fire.
We need that fire back, that tendency for the Western civilization, for Westerners to expand, to dominate.
That is who we are.
Like as Westerners, we are in a constant state of expansion.
It's who we are.
And we've lost that.
And the world has suffered for it.
There's no question about it.
Really, the only place that that's still alive is the United States.
I mean, if you look at Americans, we do seem like kind of the last people who still believe in ourselves.
We're still the last people who feel like, yes, the world needs us.
You know, sometimes this manifests in quite ugly policy.
I mean, the Global War on Terror is a great example, but we're entrepreneurs.
Americans, my favorite description of Americans is that we're temporarily embarrassed millionaires, that all of us are temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
I think that's 100% true.
We believe that the world is waiting for us.
And that's such a beautiful thing.
And that's what Mark Arubio is really trying to get these European leaders to recognize.
I'll play one more clip here.
I think this really gets at the crux of what specifically is harming Europe.
This is a quick clip.
This was posted by Mark Arubio, and this is fantastic.
It's not some side issue that needs to be handled.
It's not some, you know, we'll get around to it.
Mass migration is at the crux of what is destroying Western civilization.
Because you can't, you can't continue to proliferate Western civilization without Westerners.
That's just obvious.
And we're increasingly realizing that this is the case, right?
You can't just bring people in and then expect them to become Westerners.
It just doesn't, it doesn't work like that.
You can't just import people from the other side of the world to Britain and expect them to be British and to behave as the British behave.
Likewise with America.
Don't believe me.
Maybe just take a look at a Nick Shirley video and you'll see quite quickly that there is a difference between Americans and Somalis.
Like, it's just real.
Again, this isn't to say that, you know, anyone is inferior, anyone is less deserving of human dignity.
That's not the point I'm making.
The point I'm making is that there's a reason why countries are different.
There's a reason why we have borders.
That's the case I'm making here.
Mark Ruby is absolutely correct here.
This is a crisis that's destabilizing societies across the West.
We cannot build an alliance with a Europe who is intent on killing themselves.
There's just no question about it.
So with that, there's a lot more meat on the bone I want to get to, but I think it's important.
I think we need to move on because it is linked together actually one-to-one for the most part.
Over the weekend, Rupert Lowe announced the establishment of the Restore Britain Party.
Restore Britain previously was sort of a movement, I think.
It was kind of obvious from the get-go that Rupert Lowe was looking to start a party.
Prior to this, Restore Britain was more of like sort of this intellectual project.
But obviously over the weekend, he says, okay, it's time.
Let's start a party.
Reform is just cooked.
The conservatives have been gone for 20 years now.
The conservatives are actually senior partners in the destruction of Britain.
I mean, they have been in charge for the majority of this mass migration regime.
So they're, you know, conservative a name only.
This tweet right here, I think, is at the crux of Restore Britain's policy.
A British passport doesn't make you British.
That is something that needs to be drilled into people's heads.
That is sort of what people are missing about all of this mass migration thing.
This isn't just about economics.
You know, we know that a lot of these migrants that are coming here are drains on the economy.
They take social services, these sorts of things.
We understand that a lot of these migrants that are coming are committing crimes.
I mean, specifically in Britain, you've seen these rape gangs and these sorts of things.
But at the crux of the issue with mass migration, at the very core of it, the fundamental issue is that people in these countries deserve a homeland.
The English deserve a homeland.
The Welsh deserve a homeland.
Americans deserve a homeland.
The French deserve a homeland.
The Germans deserve a homeland.
And when you dilute the population, it becomes foreign to people.
It becomes something that it's not.
So again, put aside all the arguments about crime, about economics, which are all true.
And I say it all the time, I utilize those arguments when I'm arguing against mass migration.
But at the core, people need to understand that the composition of your country is up for debate.
Again, Toronto is a vastly different place than it was 20 years ago.
That's a bad thing.
Toronto should feel Canadian.
Canadians, native Canadians, should walk around Toronto and be like, this is a Canadian city.
This is familiar to me.
This feels like my home.
Americans should walk around New York City and be like, this feels like my home.
This feels like an American city.
The English should be able to walk around London and it feels English.
Like that is, that's a very rational belief.
And the rest of the world completely feels this way.
Why aren't people in the West?
And what Restore Britain here, with this simple statement of British passport doesn't make you British, they were cutting to the very core of this issue in which these mass migration proponents, these civic nationalists, will always say, well, they're not assimilating properly.
But once they assimilate, then they'll be good to go.
Then we can rubber stamp them.
But it's not about paperwork.
There's more to being British than just paperwork.
There's more to being American than just paperwork.
This was the issue.
This was the argument that Vivek Ramaswamy sort of kicked up around Christmas, well, last year and then the year before, is he's making this argument that, you know, being an American is contingent on ideology.
He's saying, like, you know, someone that comes from India, but, you know, has these vague commitments to ideas of freedom and liberty is more American than someone in Antifa, even though their family, you know, their lineage traces back, you know, 400 years in the United States.
While that sounds good and that might sound appealing to a conservative, that's fundamentally a very liberal idea.
This idea that history means nothing, this idea that heritage means nothing.
All of this means nothing.
You are the first person to ever exist.
That is the pitch that Vivek Ramaswamy is making.
You are the first person to ever exist.
The past never makes claims on the present.
And it's just not true.
Again, a British passport doesn't make you British.
An American passport doesn't make you American.
A passport, citizenship, these are all things that don't actually indicate if you are a part of the nation or not.
It doesn't work that way anymore.
Because you can just show up here and sign up and just do the, you know, fill out the correct paperwork and then boom, you're an American.
And then they will come to you and say, that person's just as American as you.
Even if you have ancestors going all the way back to the Mayflower, suddenly someone that just showed up here yesterday and ticked a few boxes on some paperwork and went to court is now just as American as you.
That's just ridiculous and offensive.
So this is at the core of this mass migration issue.
This is money.
This is a winning line.
This is fantastic from Restore Britain.
There's a lot of encouraging stuff.
This was a long post, but Restore Britain proposing a deportation NATO.
They're saying, look, all across the West, these countries here, you know, the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, all need to work together to build a coalition to save our countries.
Again, to make our countries feel familiar again, to make them feel less foreign.
A deportation block.
I mean, these are just really great proposals from Restore Britain.
This guy, Elon Musk, retweeted this.
This is how I saw it.
If Clarkson gets behind Restore, it's done.
Clarkson's Farm is a key pillar in British cultural awakening.
I just wanted to throw this in here.
I love the show, Clarkson's Farm.
Jeremy Clarkson's quite a big figure over in the UK.
He was the host of Top Gear, which is one of the biggest shows ever made.
And his show, Clarkson's Farm, is just a show where they document the struggles of a British farmer.
And that really kind of gets at the core of the issues in Britain and in America is that it feels like the core population, let's just use the United States as an example.
It feels like the core population is being left behind and foreigners and all these things are being prioritized.
And it's just offensive.
It's insulting to the native population with Clarkson's Farm.
He's really getting at the bread and butter of what England truly is, which is these salts of the earth people, these small villages, these farmers producing food for us.
Those are the people that should be prioritized by the government.
Those are the people that are keeping the cogs moving, keeping the gears turning.
But instead, they prioritize people that show up on a boat from Somalia and they give them a luxury hotel room for with no stipulations whatsoever.
And then these people, I mean, Jeremy Clarkson is a very wealthy man, but he shows you like all the regulation in place for a farmer.
It's like it's like hell on earth.
Like it really is.
They make it as difficult as humanly possible for a farmer to farm.
And what's more English than a farmer?
Likewise, what's more American than a farmer?
And Americans have very similar afflictions, American farmers.
So yeah, I mean, that was a great point of Jeremy Clarkson jumps on board here.
I mean, that really just epitomizes what Restore Britain's about.
It's sort of restoring that true feeling of Britishness back to Britain because it just feels like an island of strangers, as Kier Starmer put it.
Rupert Lowe, this was off of the deportation NATO.
He says, I suspect President Trump would happily agree.
I'm sure our American Restore Britain friends could help us with that.
That's absolutely true.
For the Trump administration, Rupert Lowe, this is your guy.
I have one more thing I'll put in here and then I'll grab Charlie.
This is Matt Goodwin.
He's one of these Apparatchiks over at Reform, sort of Nigel Farage's party, who people are just consistently pointing out is more of the same.
And this poster here is pointing out that reform, a lot of their political candidates, a lot of their senior officials, a lot of people operating are of a foreign background.
And this is what they're pointing out here, these guys in turbans, these Sikhs.
Matt Goodwin puts up the statement, British Sikhs have done more to take on the grooming gangs.
They have also done more to help me win a labor fiefdom than a lot of so-called patriots who stood rival candidates and enabled the left.
Not like the blatant racism that surrounds pro-restore accounts.
That's reform in a nutshell.
More of the same.
They will call you racist if you have any objections to the fact that, like, hey, it'd be nice if a right-wing party had British people in it.
And if you object to that, you're a racist.
You're an evil human being.
You're terrible.
So more of the same from reform.
I think it's excellent.
I'm just going to put this up here real quick before we get to Charlie because this is what Charlie had to say.
And I'm going to ask him about it a little more.
Like clockwork, reform defaults to regime attack lines when their electoral prospects are threatened by an authentically anti-establishment offering.
Was this.
They are no different to the Tories, the Conservative Party, Uniparty, and a gaudy turquoise tie.
Obviously, turquoise being the color of choice for Reform Britain.
So with that, after we just read this, I think it'd be very poignant to bring in Charlie himself.
So let me get that going.
He should be in there ready to let it rip.
I'm very excited to talk to the great Charlie Downs.
And I'm the campaigns director at Restore Britain, which up until the last two days was a pressure group and movement led by Rupert Lowe MP, essentially to give a home and a voice to everybody in Britain who feels that something has gone very badly wrong in our country, but who feels like none of the mainstream parties really truly represent their views.
Now, because of various things that have happened over the last month or so, I would say, including various defections from the Conservative Party to reform, as well as our independent rape gang inquiry, we took the decision to convert Restore Britain from a pressure group into a fully fledged national party that will be standing candidates in various elections right up to the general election, which is set to go ahead in 2029.
I can go into the reasons for this, Tate, if that's of interest.
I mean, because I think the question that everyone's going to be asking at home is, because, you know, in the stateside, we hear a lot about Nigel Farage.
There's a lot of really glossy press.
Obviously, he's friends with a lot of people in the Trump administration.
So I think a lot of Americans that maybe aren't keeping close tabs on the affairs in Britain might be caught a little off guard.
They're saying, well, what's gone wrong with reform?
Yeah, so I think where I'll begin is when we launched Restore Britain about seven or eight months ago last year, the political landscape looked very different to how it looks now.
The Conservative Party was kind of in a tailspin under the leadership of Kenny Padenock and reform was surging in the polls, but were nevertheless not polling as high really as they should have been, given the disastrous record of the Labour government that is currently running this country.
So we felt that at that time that launching a party would not have been the right strategy because Rupert, our leader, had been up to that point very effective at creating cross-party consensus on a variety of issues, such as mass deportations, tackling grooming and rape gangs, which is an epidemic in this country, all the way through to things like school holiday fines, like a lot of different issues which ordinary people really care a great deal about.
And Rupert was able to marshal huge cross-party support by virtue of his position as an independent MP following him being thrown out of Reform UK after a tussle with the leader, which ended with him being reported to the police on spurious allegations of making a death threat to the party chairman.
These allegations have since been dropped and he was found guilty.
He was found innocent of all charges.
So he's sitting as an independent MP since that time last year.
And as I say, he had used that position, that unique position, to advance the discourse on a variety of different issues.
So we felt that we were going to be capable by launching a movement and a pressure group.
We felt we were going to be capable of continuing to influence the discourse, shift the discourse, push the Overton window on these issues at scale, right?
Because we built up a very large membership in a very short space of time and were able to mobilize literally hundreds of thousands of people to sign petitions, to sign letters to their MPs on a variety of different issues.
And these are issues really that nobody else is prepared to touch.
Everything from banning halal and kosher slaughter, banning the burqa, deporting all illegal migrants currently in the country, reversing mass legal immigration and all sorts of other policies.
Now, since that time, we have had a great deal of success on these issues.
But in recent weeks and months, it has become clear that both the Conservative Party and Reform UK are actually not all that interested in moving in a more radical direction on these issues.
And this has been revealed by the defections of figures such as Nadeem Zahawi, Robert Jenrick, Suella Braverman, and others to Reform UK.
And so we now live in a moment where both of the mainstream, you know, quote-unquote right-wing parties in this country, the sort of natural home of the patriotically conservative-minded majority, are in a mode of consolidation.
And they really have no reason to be more radical on these issues.
The Conservative Party seem to be quite happy to consolidate their base primarily in the south, the wealthy south of England, in seats that are split between them and the Lib Dems.
And reform are behaving and have been behaving for quite some time now as though they've already got the next election in the bag.
And it is true that they have been leading the polls for several months at this point.
But I think that's made them complacent.
And so I think they thought they could get away with inviting in people like Nadeem Zahawi, who let's not forget was one of the architects of lockdown and the vaccine mandates in this country, one of the most evil policies that has ever been inflicted on the British people.
Then we look at, for example, Robert Jenrick, who has also defected to Reform UK.
He was the immigration minister at the time when the largest wave of immigration ever entered this country, called the Boris Wave.
Jenrick was the guy that oversaw that.
And the same is true of Suella Braveman.
Swella Braverman was home secretary at the time.
And so it looks increasingly like Reform UK is literally just the worst elements of the Tory Party with a slightly lighter blue coat of paint.
And they are acting as though they've already got it in the bag.
They're acting as though they've already got the majority of the country, primarily the east of England, the north of England, the white working class in the bag, and are therefore shifting to the centre and indeed to the left to find votes there.
And our view is that this cannot be allowed to happen, quite frankly, because the condition of this country is so dire that something has to be done, something radical has to be done in the immediate future.
Otherwise, this country is, I think, going to hell in a handbasket.
So we decided to launch Restore Britain to occupy that gulf that now exists on the right and give the patriotically conservative-minded majority of this country an actual home that is not aligned with the establishment in any way.
Because this is the crucial point, Tate.
The meaningful distinction, the meaningful political distinction in Britain now is not left and right.
It's nothing other than establishment versus anti-establishment.
If you are in favor of the political order that has governed this country for the last 30 years, then you are part of the establishment.
And this is the case, make no mistake, with Reform UK.
And this is revealed in their name and in the philosophy, insofar as they have a philosophy that they seek to advance, which is that they fundamentally believe in the project of the UK, as it is now called, which is to say the political order brought into being by Tony Blair and his successors.
They just think that it's being run badly.
They think that it nearly needs reform, tweaks around the edges.
And the same is true of the Conservatives.
They actually believe that the system, as it is currently constituted, is legitimate, but it just needs some small tweaks.
Our position is that the system as currently constituted was never given democratic consent.
Nobody ever voted for mass immigration, multiculturalism, and the moving of power out of the hands of elected officials into the hands of unelected quangos and this sprawling managerial state that now exists in this country.
And so what we're saying is that reforming and conserving are not nearly enough.
And what this country needs, in fact, is a revolution.
Well, I mean, I think it's funny that we use the term radical.
I mean, because these are certainly radical departures from the current political zeitgeist in Britain.
But when you travel, like I spent a lot of time in Britain and you talk to literally anybody on the street, they're all going to support approximate policies that approximate these policies that Restore is proposing.
So to the population, it's not radical whatsoever.
It's just like, yeah, these are very common sense policies.
And I think that's what makes Rupert Lowe specifically such a breath of fresh air because he just feels like a normal guy that's just look, he's calling balls and strikes here, to use an American terminology.
He's just looking at this and saying, no, this is clearly broken.
You know, it's not enough to just, like you said, reform.
We're not trying to polish a turd here.
We're trying to actually restore Britain.
So the policies, yes, they're going to be a radical departure from sort of the previous policy regime.
But for the British public, I mean, it's not radical at all.
They're just very common sense policies.
I mean, I was opening before I brought you in, looking at a lot of these policies that, you know, Restore is proposing.
You know, they just talk about deporting all illegal migrants.
That's common sense.
I think even centrists in Britain would agree that that's long overdue.
But then, you know, like Nigel Farage, when he was pressed on it, you know, Stephen Edgington conducted a great interview.
I think it was a few years back.
And he just said, oh, it's not, it's not tenable.
You know, this is not a practical political policy.
And everyone's sitting here like, what are you talking?
That's just a common sense policy.
I think even people, some people on the left would agree with that.
Well, this is the funny thing, really, Tate, is it shows you how distant and disconnected our political elite have become from the general public, because you're right.
What we're proposing is not particularly extreme or ideologically driven.
It's just looking at the situation that the country's in and recognizing what pragmatic, sensible steps have to be taken in order to ensure that our children and grandchildren actually have a country to grow up in.
But it is, you know, radical is a relative term, isn't it?
Because what we're proposing in the eyes of the political elite, those in Westminster, those who work at places like the BBC, is radical because it is such, as you say, a departure from the elite consensus that has existed in this country for the last few decades.
But, I mean, that doesn't bother us in the slightest.
In fact, we relish that because the elite consensus has driven our country right up to the precipice.
And we're staring down the barrel of a number of different catastrophes, chief among which is the indigenous British population becoming an ethnic minority in their own homeland by the year 2070, which is just such an unbelievable state of affairs.
And by the way, nobody else on the political landscape, the mainstream political landscape, the party political landscape, is prepared to even acknowledge this.
And it's ironic, really, because Matt Goodwin was the one who authored the paper that gave that projection.
It was a very good paper.
And he, in his paper, projected that the white British would become a minority in 2063.
And this is an oft-cited figure now because it is so stark.
But as you know, Tate, today, Matt Goodwin, who is standing as a candidate for Reform UK in the Gorton and Denton by-election near Manchester, has been countersignaling us, has been suggesting that what Restore represents is some kind of crackpot, racist kind of force.
Yeah, when in fact he has been more than happy to call on people like myself, people like your colleague, our mutual friend, Connor Tomlinson, and various others in the more radical elements of the right in Britain, the young vital element of the right in Britain, when it suits him.
And he's more than happy to use our talking points when it is politically expedient to do so.
But actually, when our ideas threaten him and his party and his electoral prospects, suddenly he, you know, he rears around and he turns on us.
And I think this says a lot about the kind of people that Reform UK attracts.
It is not people, in my view, that are driven by a genuine desire to save this country, but it is people who are driven more by their own personal ambitions.
And I think this is revealed by the people that Reform UK have chosen to accept and moreover, the people that they have chosen to keep out.
And, you know, because a great many people, very competent, patriotic people, have been gay kept out of reform.
And this is not sour grapes.
I mean, I am one of these people.
And it's, you know, when that sort of initially happened, I thought it was a bit of a shame.
But at the end of the day, if reform's not the vehicle, then reform's not the vehicle.
You know, I'm not involved in politics because I'm seeking to advance the interests of one particular party.
I'm involved in politics because I want my children and grandchildren to have a country to grow up in.
Right.
And so if Restore is that vehicle, then so be it.
And right now, I can absolutely guarantee you, and I will put my full reputation on the line in saying this, that it is the vehicle and reform is not.
Well, the issue here, Tate, is that reform really, their offerings in terms of policy are incredibly thin, right?
And this is a party that has tens of millions of pounds at their disposal, a fully salaried full-time team based out of Westminster in a massive, whacking great office.
And still, the best that they can seem to come up with is kind of slopulist kind of slogans that move with the wind.
And then, as I say, when they are confronted with something to their right that is genuinely, authentically anti-establishment, they default back to regime-approved attack lines calling us racists and all the rest of it, which in my view very much reveals who they are at their core.
Now, I think that one of the criticisms that has been leveled at Restore over the past few days since we launched is that our own policy offerings are thin on the ground.
What I would say to that is that, yes, we are a very small team.
We have only one full-time member of policy staff.
But in the time since we launched, we have authored the most comprehensive mass deportation policy ever put to paper in this country.
Over 100 pages long, absolutely granular detail.
This, by the way, compared to Reform's policy paper, which was six pages long and included such classic bullet points as leave the ECHR, right?
We have one coming out on the importance, well, restoring self-defense laws in this country, because they are practically non-existent.
If you have the temerity to defend yourself in this country, you will likely land yourself in prison, which I'm sure your American viewers will react to with horror.
But look, I mean, we're looking, we're building our policy base as we go, right?
And it's early days now.
We are looking to develop the most radical policy manifesto, which we feel this country needs.
And so I would say to people saying that we are thin on the ground in terms of policy, I'd say, just give us, you know, give us a moment.
We're just getting off the ground.
We're going to have to expand massively and very, very quickly.
But again, if you look at the alternatives, they're just not serious about developing serious policy.
Again, when we're evaluating policy here and reform and they're looking to their right and they're so concerned and they're saying, well, I don't know if these are viable.
You know what?
The United States, the largest country, the most powerful country on planet Earth, is emphasizing the importance of Europe standing up on their own two feet.
I mean, Mark Arubi, I don't know if you caught it.
Mark Rubio's speech at the Munich Security Conference was just, it was fantastic.
It was a breath of fresh air.
But it just shows that not only are these political ideas, these ideas that we have on migration and these sorts of things viable, but they're being put in a policy by the United States of America, the most powerful, again, the most powerful country on planet Earth.
So is it reform that's out of, or sorry, is it restore that's out of step?
It's clearly reform.
It's clearly the Tories that are out of step here.
Because again, just take a look at what Marco Rubio had to say about the conditions in Europe.
He's saying we can't build alliances with countries who have suicidal migration policies.
You can't build an alliance with a country that's going to be different in 30 years.
It's just not violent.
It just doesn't make any sense.
And so it's just, yeah, you look around the political, like you said, which way is the wind blowing?
Well, there's a tornado blowing right now.
Because again, the United States and elsewhere in Europe, you're seeing a lot of these leaders recognize the reality on the ground, which is this mass migration experiment has failed and it's killing us.
But look, I think it's a variety of factors that mean Britain and I would say Europe more generally, but I mean, Europe at least has a vibrant, you know, genuinely authentically conservative and patriotic steam.
Britain seems to be, I mean, Morgoth, the Amon blogger, has called us woke North Korea in the past.
We are kind of a kind of holdover state about, you know, we are maybe, I don't know, five to 10 years behind Europe and the United States on these issues.
And I think, as I say, there's a variety of reasons for that.
I wonder whether one of the primary reasons for that is just something in the British character that is not given to anything that smacks of unfairness.
Because there is a view that if somebody has come here legally, if they have come through legal channels and have followed the law, but who don't have settled status and who are not an ultimate, not a net contributor to the treasury and who perhaps don't speak English, in the minds of a lot of British people, I think it's difficult to justify removing that person from the country because they haven't broken any laws as such.
Whereas the view of Restore Britain is there's literally over a million people in this country that can't speak English who have come here legally, right?
And it's just not reasonable for the taxpayer to foot the bill for those people being here because a great many people, especially those who have come here over the last five years, are massively burdensome on the taxpayer.
They take more out of the system than they put in.
And therefore, our view, and we are the only party that has this view, by the way, our view is that it's not enough to merely stop mass immigration or to have what reform advocate for, which is net zero immigration, bearing in mind that we have an annual outflow of about half a million people.
So net zero immigration would still mean 500,000 people coming into the country, 500,000 new people, strangers, as Keir Stan will call them, coming into the country every year.
It's not enough to just have, you know, to stop it, to have net zero, whatever.
It has to be reversed.
A process of essentially reversing mass immigration has to take place if this country is going to have a future.
Because it's not just the issue of illegal migration and all the horror that that brings along with it that is an existential threat to our country.
It is actually just the demographic reality of what is going to happen in the future as a result of mass legal immigration.
Because a figure that worryingly few British people know about is that white British, Indigenous British births, and by the way, I'm using white British.
That's a term invented by the Office for National Statistics.
It's an official term referring to those who are English, Scottish, Welsh, and Northern Irish, which is to say, the Indigenous population of the British Isles.
By the year 2030, they will make up a minority of births.
And so what that means is that the children growing up in the 2030s will be a minority in their own classrooms.
And this, in my view, it's just catastrophic, right?
Because that represents the end of Britain.
Because what is Britain if not the people that built up this country over the last thousand years, right?
Britain is not an idea.
And by the way, this is another area where we depart from the mainstream.
The idea that what makes one British is believing in state-sanctioned British values or holding a British passport.
Well, I mean, I think that was the, it felt like a bomb dropped on the timeline because it was just so true.
The discourse was crying out for this statement.
Everyone knows it's true, but no one said it out loud.
And then the Restore Britain Twitter account, or X account rather, posts, I'm paraphrasing here: a British passport does not make you British.
And you see that and you go, Thank you, because that's at the crux.
You can cite all these economic figures about migration or, you know, these different, you know, maybe even criminal elements, these sorts of things.
But at the crux of the issue of mass migration is it's just making Britain unfamiliar, it's making it less British.
And Marco Rubio endorses this position.
His entire speech at the Munich Security Conference, he was saying our connection to Europe isn't that we share a democracy and we share all these institutions and everything.
He's saying, no, we share heritage, we share lineage, we share history together.
That's what makes us linked.
And then when you drill down on that, well, what makes a nation?
Okay, well, it's not just adherence to institutions because those institutions can change in just a few years.
What makes nations linked is heritage, is history, it's shared culture.
And so Restore Britain is just again calling balls and strikes here, but it feels like such a nuclear bomb because the zeitgeist is just so poisonous right now that people aren't used to hearing something that's just again objectively true.
Because that is essentially what the British state has been saying for the last few decades.
They're saying that the British people do not exist.
And that, in fact, anybody can become British if they just come here and believe in democracy and tolerance and the rule of law and mutual respect for those with different faiths and beliefs, which is how British values are defined in law and how they are taught in schools.
So we have an entire generation of children, including myself, by the way.
This is what I was taught when I was at school.
Taught to believe that to be British has nothing to do with one's heritage, one's ancestry, the amount of time that one's family have been in this country, but are in fact all to do with believing in a set of abstract liberal values, which most British people throughout our history have not believed in.
The idea that religious tolerance is a British value is laughable, given that we are a country that persecuted ruthlessly Catholics for centuries, right?
It's just a joke to believe that somebody 300 years ago would have believed in or 400 years ago would have believed that religious tolerance is a British value, which shows you the incoherence of this doctrine.
But on the notion of Britishness, and I think this is a really important point, Britishness, and not many people say this, by the way, and it may be met with some pushback, but Britishness is a spectrum, right?
Somebody like Rishi Sunak is British in the sense that he has a British passport, right?
And a great many other people are British in the sense that they have a British passport.
But in my view, that is almost meaningless because just having a document that says that you're British doesn't make you really British, doesn't make you as British as I am, whose family have lived here literally since the dawn of time.
Okay, I've done a DNA test.
All of my ancestors lived in this country.
A few came from Denmark, a few came from North Germany.
But other than that, my family, my entire lineage, has been in the south of England for literally hundreds, possibly thousands of years.
So the idea that somebody who's come here five minutes ago and got their hands on a British passport, which are handed out like confetti these days, the idea that they're just as British as me is an insult, not just to me, not just to my family, but to everybody who has come before us, to the entire, you know, the entire British people that built this country with, you know, with just the force of will, with their own blood and sweat and tears, gifted us this great civilization, this kingdom that we have the pleasure of living in.
And the current rulers are saying that actually none of that matters.
It's just unbelievable this is the situation that we're in, but it is the situation we're in.
And it's crazy because it's presuppositions that people would agree with if we weren't talking about Britain.
Like if there were some, you know, conditions occurring in Cambodia where Cambodia was would cease to be Cambodian, if the Cambodian people would become a minority in that country, I think everyone would look around and say, yeah, that would be tragic if Cambodians ceased to exist.
I think everyone would agree.
But then when that's happening, actively happening in Britain and other Western countries, everyone just says, that's a great thing.
Isn't that beautiful?
We're becoming this mosaic.
And well, they do have British values, whatever these vague British values they're referring to are.
So it's like they all accept the presupposition when we're not talking about Britain, when we're not talking about America or Canada or Australia.
But then as soon as it's applied to us, and we want to say, yeah, wouldn't it be nice if we looked around and this country looked familiar and my children could grow up in a country that's familiar?
Suddenly, that's the most evil, preposterous thing ever proposed.
I mean, it's sometimes it feels like we're in an insane asylum, quite frankly.
And again, I think there's a great many reasons why we have arrived at this point in Britain and beyond.
But look, I mean, what I would say is that what Restore Britain represents, yes, is radical in the current context.
But taking a wider view, it actually just represents, we represent what we're offering, represents a return to normality, a return to historical normality, a normal view of what this country is, a normal view of what constitutes a good country, good governments, what being a good neighbor means.
And look, that shouldn't be controversial, but it is because people have been so inculcated in this religion of liberalism and multiculturalism, which tells people that good governance looks like treating the country as if it's a spreadsheet that is managed by this vast, sprawling state, which has to be involved in every single nook and cranny of your life.
It tells you that morality is all about prioritizing and championing limitless individual self-expression, regardless of the consequences that it may have on other people and on the wider social fabric.
And basically decrying anybody who resists that, who criticizes that view of the world, who suggests maybe that multiculturalism and ultra-liberalism, hyper-liberalism in the social context are perhaps a bad thing, attacks those people.
And I mean, you know, people are still, and this is the thing in Britain, people are still losing their jobs for criticizing these ideas.
People are still receiving sanctions, sometimes legal sanctions.
Sometimes people end up in prison for expressing dissent against these ideas.
And I understand this is something that is, I guess, maybe not happening so much in the United States anymore, but that's why I say we are five to ten years behind in like a woke North Korea.
So look, I would say to any Brits listening, it is your duty to join Restore Britain.
Like we are the only party on the landscape that is going to go anywhere near this kind of thinking.
And if you want the return to normality that I am outlining, join up.
Join up.
It's your duty to do so.
It's your country.
Because by the way, Tate, this is the other thing that we will say that no other party will say because it's unpopular, right?
We are saying that what is to come is going to be incredibly difficult and incredibly painful.
We're not trying to sell the British public comfortable lies about the future of this country.
We are in the battle for our lives as a nation, as a people.
And so, look, if that's not something that you're up for, I would say take the Peter Hitchens line and leave.
But actually, if you think that this country is worth fighting for, worth putting your reputation, your financial well-being, your job on the line for, then join up.
And who knows where things go from here?
But I think it is going to be difficult.
It is going to be painful.
But the alternative is so much worse, unimaginably worse than that.
I mean, like you said, it's just, it's a battle and it's a return to normalcy.
If you showed up and showed a British soldier in the European theater of World War II, the Restore Britain policy platform, they'd be like, yeah, yeah, that's very, that's kind of what we have.
You might have seen him on Across the Pond a few months ago.
He's terrific.
But I think all eyes need to be on Restore Britain right now.
Quite frankly, their policy platform is so expansive that I would not be surprised if quite a few people in the Trump administration are keeping a close eye on the affairs happening over there.
So thank you very much for watching, guys.
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