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phil labonte
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sean fitzgerald
25:09
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bill gates
00:56
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harry enten
cnn 01:05
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tim pool
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tom homan
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zohran mamdani
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serge du preez
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700 Officers Leaving 00:14:57
phil labonte
has announced that there's going to be 700 fewer CBP and ICE officers in Minnesota.
Some people are saying that this is a drawdown because the Trump administration is lost.
Some people are saying that it's a victory because the job has been done so well now that the people there aren't necessary.
The ICE officers aren't necessary.
So we're going to talk about that.
So from the Washington Post, borders are.
Tom Holman says 700 ICE and CBP officers are leaving Minneapolis.
The reduction is a significant scaling back of the Department of Homeland Security's presence in Minnesota and comes after two U.S. citizens were fatally shot.
President Trump's borders are.
Tom Holman said Wednesday that 700 immigration and border agents are departing the Minneapolis area after weeks of violent confrontations and fatal shootings by officers of two U.S. citizens.
Holman said the department group includes the departing group includes agents and officers from immigration and customs enforcement and customs and border protection.
The withdrawal decreases the federal footprint from 3,000 agents to 2,300, a significant scaling back, but still much higher than the 80 who were in the Minneapolis area before Operation Metro Surge began December 1st, according to court records.
The reduction in officers is effective immediately, he said.
About 190 officers are in ICE St. Paul's field office overall, which spans five states, according to the agency's filings in a lawsuit filed by Minnesota officials that sought to curtail the operation.
Holman said a number of law enforcement agencies in Minnesota had expressed interest in allowing ICE to arrest immigrants for deportation inside jails after they'd already been arrested for a crime.
Though the state and several counties already offered that cooperation, Trump officials said they had declined to raid the Minneapolis area because it did not.
The operation is the Trump administration's largest immigration crackdown yet.
Now, it does seem like there has been a cool down recently of the protesting activities in the Minneapolis area.
But joining us today to talk about this is Sean, the actual Justice Warrior.
sean fitzgerald
Yeah, thank you for having me.
phil labonte
Go ahead and tell people who you are and what you do.
sean fitzgerald
Oh, I'm a YouTuber over at the Actual Justice Warrior YouTube channel.
About to hit 500,000.
Go over and subscribe so I can hit that milestone.
And I cover crime-related issues and like right-wing stuff.
phil labonte
Awesome.
So is it your opinion or is it your sense that this is a victory for the Trump administration or is it a loss for the Trump administration?
Are they backing down from the intent to deport people?
sean fitzgerald
I actually think it looks like right now that it's a good deal for the Trump administration because if you think about it, 2,300 agents is more than the entire Minneapolis Police Department.
That's where the surge in operations have been in the Twin Cities.
And you're getting cooperation in the jails from them, which is what you didn't get before.
Like there was some talk earlier on about, oh, we're going to let you take people from the prisons, but that's like the one thing that Minnesota actually did prior to this.
So that wouldn't have been a compromise at all.
So it seems like you're doing a drawdown partially.
Hopefully that reduces tensions.
And you end up getting a big concession, which is arresting these people from the jails, which is what Tom Holman wanted all along.
phil labonte
Yeah.
The distinction between prison and jail is something a lot of people don't really think about.
But if you go to jail, you can go to jail for just a couple days for being picked up for, you know, whatever.
Whereas if you go to prison, you're going to go to prison for usually longer.
sean fitzgerald
Over a year is usually the difference.
So jail is pre-trial plus sentences under a year.
Prison is convictions of a felony, which are typically over a year.
phil labonte
So they were basically going to prisons just to pick, I'm sorry, going to prison to pick people up if they were convicted of a significant crime.
Whereas now, if they get picked up for just something small, then they're going to hand them over to the ICE officers.
And like you said, it is a big deal because with the help of the local police forces, you don't have the hubbub and you don't have the protesters because you see a lot of people in Texas getting deported.
You see a lot of people in Tennessee, the Memphis area, basically all over the country where the local law enforcement actually assists the federal officers.
You don't have the fighting with ICE.
You don't have the protests.
You don't have so many of the actual shootings.
But I'm thinking of the illegal aliens, they're not interacting with ICE in the same way.
It's like ICE goes there, just picks them up, tosses them in a car, puts them on a plane.
sean fitzgerald
Yeah.
There was like an analysis of all the different incidents with ICE, like these reports of violence or whatever.
And it seems like they're coming from 20 counties in the United States of America for the whole country.
And it's like over half of them are from those 20 counties.
And then the rest of them are for the whole rest of the country, which is like 3,400 additional counties.
So obviously these particular sanctuary city laws are creating the problems.
And of course, you have these, the Democrats here encouraging them.
But the response to that has been the raids.
Like Tom Holman, when Trump first took office, said, look, we want to pick them up from the jails, from the prisons.
We want coordination with the local governments.
If we don't get that, we're going to do the raids.
And by the way, when we do a raid looking for a criminal, if we find other illegal aliens there, they're coming with us.
That's collateral.
I don't know if you remember that from the beginning of the Trump administration.
So this is like what they wanted the whole time.
And if you think about it, the drawdown is not that significant.
It's a small percentage of the force.
So this is a victory.
But more importantly, politically, it allows everybody to kind of claim victory.
Like, you know, I hate Tim Waltz, but it's nice for him to be like, okay, we got a reduction.
We worked out a compromise.
It's like the first de-escalatory step in this whole process.
serge du preez
It'll slow down the people that are claiming like it's the end of the world and making more people get out on the street, unfortunately, and making more people get in the way of ICE agents and operations.
Like Tom Homan said, like they're not going to stop doing this stuff.
There's no reason to stop doing all this stuff.
Yeah, I think this is the right clip, actually.
Is that what you're trying to say?
phil labonte
Yeah, well, this is actually, I think this clip is actually talking about the protesters that have set up the checkpoints, which is it's ridiculous in the first place.
But Tom Homan, in this clip, he's talking about people thinking, oh, well, we're going to allow this to happen.
And that is just not the case.
tom homan
As far as what I saw yesterday with the Roadblocks being set up, you're not going to stop ICE.
unidentified
You're not going to stop Border Patrol.
tom homan
The only thing you're doing is irritating your community.
You want to go get groceries or pick the children up or whatever.
I talked to the chief of police, and he committed to taking swift action on those illegal roadblocks.
unidentified
They're illegal.
We shouldn't tolerate them.
tom homan
Again, a complete drawdown is going to depend on cooperation, continued cooperation of local state law enforcement and the decrease of the violence, the rhetoric, and the attacks against ICE and Border Patrol.
The federal law enforcement personnel, ICE and CBP, and other partner agencies are patriots.
phil labonte
So, excuse me.
So, yeah, the idea that the protesters have had any success at all, I don't think that that's, I don't think that that argument can hold water.
They have done nothing but get people killed, irritate the local population and increase the presence of ICE.
And now that you do have some, you know, some drawback, they've done, you know, they're not, they don't have anything to show for it, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
sean fitzgerald
It is funny because I think they did polling in Minneapolis, and this is like the epicenter of the George Floyd riots, now the ICE riots.
And it's still over half the population wants their local government to work with ICE.
Like, you know, you see them out on the streets doing all these barricades, which, by the way, the local news segments on the barricades, funniest stuff you'll ever see in your life.
A bunch of like older white people that somehow are like very left-wing white people that somehow don't have jobs.
Very interesting that they're able to do this all day.
I don't know how that works.
Maybe they're getting funding from someone, but from the government, they're retired.
unidentified
Yeah.
sean fitzgerald
So, but they'll be out there and they're like, Yeah, well, we have to check who comes into our community.
We can't just let anyone in here.
We need to verify because you know, even though people are people, in reality, they don't share our values.
So, we got to make sure we have these barriers to block them out.
And that's what they're doing.
And yeah, that's exactly the argument for having a border, which they don't believe in.
But in addition to that, I saw the police break up one of these barriers.
And they did this three weeks ago where they broke up the barriers after the Renee Good thing, which by the way, they barricaded the scene for the Renee Good shooting.
And that's one of the reasons why the local police weren't able to clear the scene properly, which they were complaining about.
But they put up these barriers, the police take them down, but they make no arrest.
So on the local news, these people with their full face name, they're doing an interview, are like, Yeah, well, the barrier's going back up.
And it's like, yeah, if you have no consequences, they're going to go back up.
So it's good if the local government actually committed to making the arrests rather than just taking down the barrier.
phil labonte
Yeah, there has to be arrests.
Like, I mean, if you're out there inhibiting law enforcement, you should be arrested.
I know that the argument that the left is going to make is, oh, we're just, you know, we're watching the police.
We're just trying to make sure that they're not doing anything wrong.
That's just not true at all.
All of the whistles are there to inhibit law enforcement.
All of the noise making they're doing is there to inhibit law enforcement.
They consistently get into confrontations with law enforcement.
They're trying to provoke a reaction from law enforcement.
This is not just peaceful protesters.
These people are actively trying to inhibit law enforcement.
And that's just on the face.
Never mind getting into the things like the signal chat where they're talking about where ICE is, where they're trying to pick up illegals.
They're marking down the license plate numbers of anyone that they think is ICE.
And on top of that, they're harassing just normal people, whether they be journalists or whether they be just regular people that are going about their day.
They're out there harassing people, inhibiting people going about their daily lives.
The idea that this is some kind of, you know, some kind of fight against fascism when they're doing the thing that they say the fascists are doing is just comical.
serge du preez
All the gamma words.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, yeah, never mind the fact that they're out there, you know, they say that they would call themselves anti-racist until there's a black iceberg and they're just going to sling the n-word at them.
sean fitzgerald
And as far as the whistles go, technically that in certain contexts, that is considered legal because it's like they'll say, oh, it's similar to warning people about a speed trap, which like your Google Maps thing does.
And I totally understand that argument, but I think this is more similar, especially when there's an active operation to like, let's say, I'm against the drug war, like libertarian, no, no, no raiding people for drugs.
But that doesn't mean that I can follow like the police on a drug raid and then yell out to the guy inside the house that's about to get raided so that he escapes or give away the position of the officers.
Like to me, I think in certain contexts, the whistles are annoying but protected speech.
But in other contexts, you're quite literally trying to tip off a fugitive at the time.
And I don't think that should be considered the same thing.
phil labonte
See, I have a different understanding of the whistles and stuff.
I think that what the goal is is to have people get hurt like Predi, like Renee Goode.
They want to see those martyrs.
So the whistles and the noisemakers make it more difficult for ICE to do their job.
First of all, it makes it difficult for them to communicate with each other.
And second of all, it raises the tension in an already tense and volatile situation, right?
If ICE is out there trying to pick up a guy that's fighting back or that's not compliant, and there's people hollering at them, making noise and stuff like that, it's just making it more likely that there's a mistake, an accident happens, because ICE is not trying to injure people.
If the illegals will put their hands up and just allow the police to take them into custody, there wouldn't be fights.
There wouldn't be problems.
It would go smoothly.
Again, I use the rest of the country, to your point.
The rest of the country that happens every day.
It's a very normal, mundane thing that happens all across the country every single day with no issue.
But because there are protesters out there trying to basically cause chaos, trying to make the situations more difficult.
And the goal is to get people hurt so they can use them as a propaganda tool.
sean fitzgerald
Yeah.
The sacrifices.
Like they're trying to get, you know, liberal white, liberal white non-professionals to sacrifice themselves in these instances.
Like Renee Goode is an example of that, obviously Predty.
And, you know, like when you saw that like church raid, you had that guy, the influencer guy with the beard.
I forgot his name.
phil labonte
Yeah, the woke farmer or something.
sean fitzgerald
Yeah, there.
unidentified
That guy.
sean fitzgerald
Like he's screaming at these people.
He's like, what are you doing for your Somalis?
What are you doing for your Somali neighborhood?
And it's all your Somali neighbors.
And it's like, you know what you don't see at any of these protests?
phil labonte
Somalis.
sean fitzgerald
Somalis.
They're too busy not watching kids in daycare centers.
phil labonte
They're too busy cashing checks and not watching children.
sean fitzgerald
So it's like you're basically the highest virtue among these people is to sacrifice yourself fighting these ICE agents or CBD agents.
I do feel bad for the ICE agents that are actually not doing these shootings.
It's actually Border Patrol that are catching all the flak for it.
But yeah, you're instigating, you're trying to turn the temperature up on this particular issue.
And we've already had in the first Trump administration, an attempted ICE mass shooting in Portland.
They shot that guy before he made the facility.
He said he was trying to liberate people from the concentration camps, which was the rhetoric at the time.
We've had an I don't want to call it an attempted one, but an ICE shooting in Dallas.
It's just that they had illegal aliens in that one.
phil labonte
Multiple attacks on ICE and Border Patrol installations in Texas and the shooting in, you said Portland, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I mean, that's completely and totally right in line with what they're, what they're trying to do.
They even go so far in their, I guess their manuals to tell people, you should put your body in between the ICE agents or federal law enforcement and illegal immigrants.
They're saying that you should endanger yourself.
They go so far as to say, this isn't safe.
You should be putting yourself in danger to protect these people.
And again, it's because they want the sacrifice.
unidentified
Yeah.
sean fitzgerald
And if you're comparing the federal law enforcement and immigration enforcement to what happened to Anne Frank, it doesn't matter how many times you tell people to be nonviolent because Tim Wallace talks out of both sides of his mouth.
Like if you're in 1930s Germany and the actual Nazis, the actual brown shirts or Gestapo are coming from you, like all of us would say, yeah, you have a right to fight back against that tyrannical government.
So when people buy into the propaganda, they start doing crazy things.
So that's why it's important to kind of calm everything down.
Again, we had an election that decided whether or not we were going to have the open border czar Kamala Harris or we were going to put a guy like Tom Holman as the border czar.
And that was decided.
phil labonte
I had made this point on X the other day.
This is a normal police operation, law enforcement operation.
Why Voter ID Is Popular 00:11:06
phil labonte
It is popular with the American people.
We'll get to actual a poll that demonstrates that in just a second.
But the things that are being done by ICE, the operations they're carrying out are totally normal.
The American people voted for Donald Trump with basically the leading part of his platform was getting rid of illegal aliens, getting, you know, deporting people.
I mean, there's a lot of people that are saying that he's not doing enough, that this is actually not going hard enough.
But this is a popular thing with the American people.
Right now, from Baron Trump News commentary on X, holy crap, even CNN was forced to admit 83% of Americans want nationwide voter ID.
That includes 71% of Democrats.
This isn't controversial.
This isn't extreme.
This is common sense.
And support is at the highest level in years.
Across every poll since 2018, support never drops below the mid-70s.
Now it's 83%, 95% of Republicans and 7 in 10 Democrats.
The American people are aligned with Nicki Minaj, not the activist class.
When even CNN can't spend it anymore, the game is over.
Photo ID to vote, period, no excuses, no delays, pass the SAVE Act.
And now, I don't know if the SAVE Act is still something that is actually has a lot of, you know, has enough juice to pass, I guess.
I personally would like to see them, you know, kill the filibuster to do it because if you, I understand the argument, if you kill the filibuster, the Democrats will use it against you against you.
But again, I make this point over and over.
It doesn't matter what the Republicans do, the Democrats are going to do it.
When the Democrats get back into a position of power, they're going to kill the filibuster.
They're probably going to try to expand the court.
They're going to add states.
They'll try to get rid of the Electoral College.
They'll do everything in their power to make sure that there is a permanent Democrat majority.
So let's listen to what they said on CNN.
harry enten
Photo ID to vote.
And the American people are with Nicki Minaj.
Because what are we talking about here?
So take a look here.
Favor voter ID to vote.
Look, I got all this polling on the screen going back since 2018.
You'll notice on all of it, it's all north of 75%, 76%, 76%, 76%, 81%.
And then 83% in the last year of Americans agree with Nicki Minaj.
They favor photo ID to be able to vote.
unidentified
What about by party?
harry enten
What's the party part?
Yeah, normally you might expect, hey, there'd be a big divide by party with Republicans really for it and Democrats really against it, but not really here.
I mean, just take a look here.
Favor photo ID to vote.
You got 95% of Republicans, pretty much all of them, but even 71% of Democrats favor photo ID to vote.
So again, Nikki Minaj posting that on X.
And what you see is that the American people, actually, it's not really all that controversial.
The American people are with Nicki Minaj, whether they are Republican or even if they are Democrats, we're talking about seven in 10 Democrats agreeing with Nikki Minaj that you, in fact, should show a voter photo ID to vote.
phil labonte
What's the you need a vote?
You need an ID to buy alcohol.
You need an ID to get a car to purchase insurance or to rent an apartment.
You need an ID to get on a plane.
You need an ID.
I mean, sometimes you even need an ID to go to the movies.
What is it that you think that is the resistance?
There's a lot of people that'll say, oh, the most popular argument I hear coming out of Democrats now is it would disenfranchise too many American, millions of American women because they got married and their name isn't the same as on their ID.
I think that's totally ridiculous.
I think that it's a very simple, simple thing to get a new ID.
And personally, I think that it's just that the Democrats want to make sure that if they have the opportunity to cheat, they can cheat.
And it's basically just one more avenue, but I'm interested in your thoughts.
sean fitzgerald
I mean, this has been non-controversial for a while, and there's been a massive amount of propaganda on this issue for years.
But the thing is, people know intuitively that you have ID for so many different scenarios.
Like you can't open a bank account, like you can't cash a check, even if you don't have a banking account.
Like you have ID to do all these different various things.
It's not something that people think is too encumbersome to vote.
As far as the women like changing their ID or their name on their ID when they get married, like that's absurd.
Like you like there's so many different accommodations for married people who keep their maiden name and want to have on certain documentation their married last name.
Like that is not a real issue.
I just told you before, I changed my voter registration in New York after I changed my ID, like, you know, my address location.
And I was able to do it all online.
So it's super easy in a place like New York where they don't have voter ID requirement to make those changes all through the internet.
So like, why are you telling me that it's going to be impossible?
Now, of course, the old argument was you're trying to ban black people from voting.
And this is basically like a talking point to get more black people to vote because every time they're like, they're disenfranchising you.
They're coming for you.
They're trying to block you from the right to vote every year.
phil labonte
They put you back in chains, like Joe Biden said.
unidentified
Yeah.
sean fitzgerald
But every year, black turnout goes up when they campaign super hard on that issue because it's like, oh, if you feel like they're trying to deny you something, then they'll do it.
And the studies on the black voter ID thing, they come from New York City.
They only examine driver's licenses, which again, you're less likely to have in New York City.
You could have a non-driver's ID, which by the way, almost every state offers.
I was going to say almost every state.
That's sufficient enough to vote.
It's a state ID that fits all the requirements.
And yeah, it's just pretty straightforward.
You use it to get on a plane.
Again, to get a driver's license, you have to have one on you.
So many different contexts.
You need an ID.
Like voting is an easy one.
phil labonte
Yeah, no one's ever made the argument that if you don't, it's wrong to have to have an ID to drive because that inhibits their ability to travel.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
Like that argument is never made because everyone knows it's ridiculous.
sean fitzgerald
Well, somebody makes that argument, them sovereign citizens.
I'm not driving.
I'm traveling.
phil labonte
But the point remains, like this is the, again, this is a very mundane kind of policy.
This is, I think it's something like every Western society requires ID to vote.
Like, I don't know.
I don't know the country breakdown, but it's, it's the, one of the most common things in all of modern society is you have to have an ID to verify who you are so you can vote.
And the idea that the Democrats are just pushing back on this, I, I, there are people that will make the argument, oh, well, you know, there's so little manipulation or there's so few people that are cheating that it's not worth the effort.
And I think, well, it's, it's such a low bar for entry.
I don't think that making that argument holds any water.
I think that if there is any cheating at all, you should do whatever you can to prevent it.
And if a voter, if voter ID does that, it should be a no-brainer, particularly with such a massive amount of the American population being for it.
People talk, people on the left constantly talk about, or Democrats, constantly talk about how our democracy is so important?
Our democracy is so important.
It's democracy, democracy, democracy.
This is the most lopsided policy idea that I think that I have ever seen.
You know, 83% of Americans agreeing.
And if you're so concerned about democracy, why would you say, oh, this particular issue, we're not concerned about democracy.
This particular issue, we're worried about a fabricated problem that will not apply to the vast majority of people.
sean fitzgerald
Yeah.
I mean, it's a no-brainer kind of issue.
Now, you brought up earlier about getting rid of the filibuster in order to pass this.
I actually don't think that is worth it because remember, the Democrats had all throughout Biden's years, HR1, which was their like changeup of the voting system where they try to federalize it, where they try to get rid of all the local ID requirements, institute mail-in voting and mandated early voting periods throughout the whole country.
And that was prevented by the filibuster.
So like, I think you can campaign on the, in these individual states on these, on this issue, because again, there's almost nobody on the other side of this, but I wouldn't nuke the filibuster over this, if I'm being honest.
phil labonte
I mean, I'm not happy about the idea of getting rid of the filibuster.
I do think that a standing filibuster is probably a better idea.
sean fitzgerald
Oh, where they actually have to talk?
phil labonte
Yeah, where they actually have to do something.
You have to actually put some effort in, put some skin in the game.
So I would be fine.
I think they call it the zombie filibuster, get rid of the zombie filibuster, make sure that you have to do a standing filibuster.
I think that that's perfectly reasonable to push forward.
Even if you are apprehensive about getting rid of the filibuster, my take on it is: look, the Democrats are likely to win in the midterms.
I think if the economy is good, the Republicans can, but that's not a guarantee.
It's going to come down to what kind of candidates are being run and if you can get people out to the out to the polls to vote.
But that being said, if the Democrats do win, I think that there's going to be no more legislation that gets passed.
I think it's going to be just, you know, Donald Trump's the evil orange man and we're going to impeach him.
You'll get, you know, papers of impeachment every other week or so until the election in 2028.
And should the Democrats win in the election in 2028, again, they will do things to make sure that there is no way for Republicans to win again.
And so to me, this is actually existential.
And so as much as I do agree, it's not preferable to get rid of the filibuster if that's necessary to get rid of the, you know, to make sure that there is no cheating and give the Republicans the best chance possible to win.
I do think that it's worth it.
sean fitzgerald
And we are going to see some desperation if the Democrats have all three branches of government after 2028, because the 2030 census is coming.
And after that happens, the representation that's going to go to the red states, like the blue wall is not going to matter anymore for the Democrats.
Like 2028 is the last year where Republicans have to pick up Pennsylvania or any of these, Pennsylvania, Michigan, or Wisconsin.
Like they're going to be done because you're going to have those reps go to Texas, go to Florida, and go to a bunch of red states.
So like you're going to see some desperation in 2028.
I just don't think it's worth it to get rid of the filibuster.
phil labonte
That's part of the reason why I think the deportations are so important.
And I think that if the Democrats do get back into power and the damage they can do in two years just by throwing the border open, and they will do that.
Even though the American people are very against it, they will do all they can to make sure that there are as many illegals in the country that can be counted in the census.
Because again, if you're not familiar with it, the census goes by people in these areas, not by the actual citizens.
So they just want to have as many people in as they can to count to give them as much pot as much lopsided representation in Congress as they possibly can.
Do you think that the Democrats would throw the border open again?
Media Trends Disrupting Sports Coverage 00:05:26
sean fitzgerald
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Like we're in the stage now where it's just swinging, like the pendulum's constantly swinging.
Remember, Biden was like the only candidate in the Democratic primary who said that he was not going to work to make crossing the border a non-criminal offense.
And we got the border flooding under Biden.
So imagine when one of these guys who are campaigning on it not being even criminal to enter the country illegally actually gets into power.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
All right.
phil labonte
So we're going to talk about something that is very popular on X today.
The Washington Post is cutting one-third of its staff in a major overhaul.
Executive announced that Cuts Wednesday, eliminating the sports department, book section, daily post reports podcast, and shrinking internal and metro coverage to focus on national news, politics, business, and health.
The move aims to stem $100 million in 2024 losses amid stagnant subscription and ad revenue, worsened by 250,000 cancellations after skipping a presidential endorsement.
Staffers like Shane Harris shared heartbreak for colleagues losing livelihoods, while laid-off reporter Tasha Reid vowed to bounce back as the paper navigates industry-wide challenges.
I think this is just, I mean, part of the reason why I think that this is trending on X is because that's where the media goes.
I think the average person has already largely checked out of mainstream media.
If you're interested in news, the internet offers such a la carte news delivery that this the nationwide kind of big news organizations have kind of gone the way of the dinosaur already.
And I think this is more evidence of that.
sean fitzgerald
Yeah.
And if you look at the categories that they're getting rid of, it's like sports coverage.
Like who is getting their sports news from even ESPN anymore, let alone a newspaper?
Like if you want sports scores, you can go online and check it out.
All the teams have their own websites.
You can watch highlights instantly.
So they're cutting in all these different places, but that 250,000 cancellations because they refused to endorse Kamala Harris.
Like they didn't endorse anyone.
It's not like they endorsed Trump, but that was considered an endorsement.
Absolutely devastating to all of these departments that have nothing to do with politics.
phil labonte
Yeah.
sean fitzgerald
Like it's pretty impressive.
Although, I mean, sports coverage is very political now.
So, you know, they're not sending people to the Olympics anymore to cover it.
Like, they're like, nope, you're done.
We're not doing that anymore.
phil labonte
I mean, now, as far as sports go, do you think that's partially because there's an overall decline in interest in sports?
Because if you look at the viewership of the NFL, I mean, the NFL still does good.
But like, you know, soccer is the second big, or not second, but soccer is a bigger sport in the U.S. than baseball now, which is kind of crazy in my mind.
sean fitzgerald
Which is why we have to deport way more people.
We can't have these soccer nonsense going on in this country.
That's like number one priority is to get baseball back in the two slot.
phil labonte
Yeah, baseball, like baseball is still the national pastime.
And I know that there are a lot of people that don't watch baseball that are like, oh, it's boring and stuff.
But if you focus on the pitcher and the batter, that's where the action's happening.
And it actually is really, really interesting.
It's true.
It's true.
sean fitzgerald
But there's a drop off in the NBA, which, you know, has a lot to do with the NBA not promoting their new people.
So like, you don't, like, you watch the games, you're like, who are the superstars?
And then you think of like LeBron and all these guys.
They're super old.
So like there is decline in certain sports, but I do think it's just they lost a bunch of subscriptions.
Like Bezos bought the Washington Post to have more influence on Washington politics because that's the paper that they pay attention to typically in Washington.
Although we were talking about earlier, Trump loves the New York Times.
He hates it, but he wants positive coverage in the New York Times more than any other paper.
But like that's that's why you buy the Washington Post.
So like sports, local reporting, like the shift to national news, like it's it's clearly Bezos like consolidating that paper to try to make it viable.
And it is funny that the Democrats are the ones who kind of ruined it by canceling all their subscriptions, throwing a little hissy fit.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I mean, look, the Democrats have a history of shooting them in the shooting themselves in the foot.
But I do think that this does speak to the fact that, you know, there was a time where, you know, everybody in the country would subscribe to one of the major papers, right?
Whether it be the Times or maybe the Wall Street Journal or, you know, the, the, the Washington Post here.
But the fact that people go to the internet now, like, no one goes to pick up the newspaper anymore.
And I think that the, you know, maybe there are people out there that are like, oh, you know, I still like the crossword puzzles.
But otherwise, like, people just go to, I mean, why would you go to a news organization and pay for their product when you can go to X and get it from some, you know, one of the journalists that wrote it will put it up on their page.
Or maybe you like a particular journalist, so you go to their sub stack.
But X has really become kind of the focus for news.
I mean, anytime anything happens or there's rumors of anything happens, the first thing that I do is I go to X and I, you know, just put it into the search bar.
There's not really a need for this stuff aside from trying to, aside for a place to read op-eds that are actually trying to influence policy.
sean fitzgerald
Well, there is a need for it, but I will say the one paper that's huge that seems to be like killing it in the internet era is the New York Post because their headline department, A-plus, all the way.
phil labonte
You think it's just the sensationalism of them?
sean fitzgerald
Yeah, but they're like primed for that.
But I will say that there is a downside to this.
Like, I'm not a fan of the Washington Post or the New York Times or any of these major outlets.
Mayor Mamdani's Snow Crisis 00:04:05
sean fitzgerald
But the thing is, is like we don't have in the commentary space reporters to go to like war zones and collect facts and information.
We still rely on these traditional news agencies in order to do that.
So a layoff of those journalists, even though they have opinions and they skew information and all those things, like that reduces the amount of like facts-based reporting that's just in the ecosystem because, you know, X, like, it's an amplification machine, but it needs something to amplify.
phil labonte
Yeah.
All right.
So we're going to come back and we're going to talk a little bit about Mayor Mamdani with Sean being from New York.
I'm sure he's got some thoughts.
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phil labonte
So in New York, there was a massive snowstorm.
Well, across the whole country, there was a massive snowstorm this past weekend.
And New York was hit really hard.
And it seems like Mayor Mamdani is not prepared for the ramifications of that kind of weather system.
There's a lot of snow still left on the ground.
There's people putting up posts on Instagram and on X and on TikTok complaining about how there's snowbanks everywhere.
They didn't clean up the streets.
We've got some, I've got something from the New York Post where Mayor Mamdani confirmed 16 deaths during the dangerously cold weather in New York City.
So here we go.
zohran mamdani
A severe cold front continues to bear down on our city.
Today is our 11th consecutive day of below-freezing weather.
And we could very well be in the middle of the longest period of consecutive sub-32 degree weather in our city's entire history.
Without temperatures rising above freezing, snow has hardened into blocks of ice.
But the greatest danger posed by this sustained cold is to vulnerable New Yorkers who remain exposed to the elements.
As of this morning, 16 of our fellow New Yorkers have passed away outside during this brutal stretch of cold.
In 13 of these cases, preliminary findings indicate that hypothermia played a role, and three of these deaths appear to be overdose deaths.
We await final results from the medical examiner's office and will inform New Yorkers as we learn more.
Each of these lives lost is a tragedy.
My heart was at the family of those mourning their loved ones.
phil labonte
You would think, or at least my thought was going into this, that Mayor Mamdani, whereas he is young and inexperienced, New York City as an entity has the capability to deal with this stuff because it's not like snowstorms are new to New York.
You know, this isn't Miami where, oh, crap, we got a bunch of snow.
So you'd think that they have the infrastructure that is capable of dealing with this.
What do you think happened, Sean?
sean fitzgerald
Well, we actually know what happened: Mayor Mamdani, in his infinite wisdom, if you want to call it that, decided to make a policy change.
And he announced it when he was the mayor-elect back in December, where he would no longer conduct homeless sweeps that are intended to push people off the streets, out of the campsites, and into homeless shelters, even if it's for a night.
And he gave a big speech about this.
He was like, oh, we have to judge this based on outcomes.
Voluntary Evictions Crisis 00:03:35
sean fitzgerald
Ironically, now he doesn't want to talk that much about outcomes.
And because of that, because they're now going with a voluntary approach where they ask you to get off the streets and leave your encampment intact, we now have had about as many people who die in the cold in New York City in an entire year over the last two weeks.
So it's been a disaster and it's a predictable disaster.
Mayor Eric Adams predicted this.
He warned about it in a video that he published on December 5th.
Like, I did a video about this prior to the snowstorm coming.
Marsha Kramer, the CBS local affiliate, confronted Mamdani with footage of this, said, Hey, it's 21 degrees.
Like, you sure about this policy?
Is that the direction you want to go in?
And Mamdani has only continued to double down ever since then.
So it's, it's, oh, we're going to ask.
And then he said something like unusual: like, oh, we're only going to remove people by force if they're a danger to themselves or others, like, you know, which is normally the criminal standard for moving some removing somebody who's like insane from the streets, not from the cold.
So, yeah, you're asking mentally unstable people, a lot of them, to suddenly make a rational choice.
And like, this is something that can only exist in the minds of like the willfully blind and people who have never interacted with homeless people.
Like, if they made rational choices, they would likely not be homeless in the first place.
phil labonte
Yeah, one of the things that people don't understand is the vast majority of homeless people are homeless by choice.
Now, that doesn't mean that they're like, I want to be homeless, although there is a segment that actually have that perspective, right?
They're like, I don't want to.
Yeah.
Serge calls them nomads, and it's actually a pretty good way to describe them.
But if you make, if you refuse to do the things necessary or are incapable of doing the things necessary to have a house, that is a choice, right?
If you decide I'm going to do drugs as opposed to go to work, you're choosing to be homeless because you can't pay your bills.
So, a lot of the, you know, a good portion of the people that are homeless are there because they've decided that that is a better way to live than to go into a rehab facility and get off drugs and get a job.
Some people just don't want to deal with the day-to-day of running a house and stuff, like Serge says, nomads.
But for the people that are, you know, that are actually mentally ill, that can't do it, right?
Not making the choice, but just literally can't run a household, those people have just been, I mean, for pardon the pun, but left out in the cold.
sean fitzgerald
Yeah.
And, you know, New York has the shelters for our homeless population.
Like, we could put any of them up in a night.
Very famously, we have a right to shelter law.
So if you ask for shelter and there's no shelter space, remember, this was a big thing when all the migrants were here that Eric Adams is complaining about.
They'll put you up in a hotel.
Like, this is what they're obligated to do.
But these people don't want to go to the shelters.
And when you interview them, they're like, oh, there's too many rules.
Like, I can't drink alcohol.
I can't bring my drugs or whatever.
And they're afraid that if they leave their encampment, that they're going to lose their stuff.
So the old policy was, you're getting off the street.
Like, we're going to clear your encampment.
You don't have a right to live in the park or live on the sidewalk.
And yeah, for your own safety, we're going to get you off the street.
But Mamdani's more compassionate approach, which I like to call homicidal empathy, is leading to these people getting killed.
And there's a ton of defenders of him online that are straight up saying, oh, well, it's, it's, he's offering them a choice that's like dignity.
It's like, they're dying.
Like, there's no dignity in freezing to death on a New York City bench.
Abolish Policies Leading to Death 00:10:43
serge du preez
Exactly.
That's why Mamdani and his Never Ending Wisdom decided to give out these cool blankets for everybody, as you can see, guys.
I'm sure you guys saw those.
phil labonte
I mean, you see people wearing these, they are blankets.
That's insane.
But this is kind of just a gross PR stunt, like as far as I'm concerned.
Like the idea that giving out blankets that have your name on them.
And you can't help but like, I mean, if you're, if you're, if you're kind of aware of Momdani's politics, you can't help but notice they're red and white.
You know, that's typical, typically thought of as communist colors.
sean fitzgerald
I believe this was a non-profit, though, that did this.
unidentified
Oh, is it?
sean fitzgerald
Okay, I believe.
Like, I'm not, I'm not 100% sure.
I mean, their faces are blacked out for a reason.
But I will say, like, you know, Mamdani is doing like a viral video every day.
And like his base is so like out to lunch that if he does a video about something, they think that he invented it.
Like, so he announced enrollment for the 3K program that's been around since Bill DeWasio in 2017.
It was jump-started even more with COVID funding in 2021.
Mamdani does a video announcing the enrollment period and people are like, already he delivered universal child care.
Like he did a thing recently about how he's going to open the Dinkins building where you can go up to the observatory for free because it's Black History Month and Dinkins is the first black mayor.
And it's like, you set up, and of course he does a viral video announcement.
It's like you had the press waiting out in the cold for like almost an hour while you're filming these drone shots.
Like didn't even have the decency to call the press after he filmed his video on the roof that they didn't have access to.
And this is all while people are freezing in the cold.
Like who gives a damn about an observatory that you're saying may be open in June of this year when there's people free, like you had to step over three homeless people frozen to the ground in order to make your announcement.
It's absurd.
But again, this is a guy who wanted to be an influencer.
I've seen his rap videos.
Like he wanted to be on this side of the camera the whole time.
And he found out that becoming a mayor of the city of New York was actually easier than making interesting and compelling content.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And on the point of kind of Mamdani doing things that are more for show than anything else, we've got a video here of Mamdani who visited a man who got shot while charging at a cop.
We got the video of the actual attack here.
zohran mamdani
And as you said, I spoke with the Chuckerworthy family and I visited Javez in the hospital.
And there is no family should have to endure this kind of pain.
unidentified
Papa, Papa, no!
Hey, put the knife down!
phil labonte
The knife's closed.
Put the knife down!
zohran mamdani
Put the knife down.
And as you said, I spoke with the Chuckerworthy family.
phil labonte
I understand having empathy for people that have lost a family member, but when you have, you know, so many police officers that have body cams on and show what actually happened, the mayor getting up and making the statement, not supporting the police officers.
And if I understand correctly, there were a lot of people, a lot of police officers that resigned when Mamdani was elected, correct?
sean fitzgerald
I think so.
Or early retirement or something of the sort.
But in this video, you could see the officers who, you know, he's obviously painting as the criminals.
He doesn't want this guy charged, by the way, who went after the officers with the knife.
Like he said that publicly.
But one of the first things they do is they close the door to create a barrier between them.
So they're giving him an opportunity.
It's like, we don't want to shoot you, but we're not going to let you stab us.
And I just want everybody to know that Momdani's using this as a way to signal his compassion.
Again, he cares harder than everybody else.
That's why his policy failures are to be ignored.
But in his worldview, there are no police officers in this situation.
You have a 22-year-old social worker fresh out of college coming in here completely unarmed that has to deal with this man with a knife charging at her.
That's his ideal scenario.
This is a rebuke of that.
And yet he's trying to use it as a policy win for himself.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
And this is the same attitude that people have when they say, you know, abolish the police or abolish ICE.
Like you said, the idea of a social worker going to that situation, like that would, that will get people killed.
that will get people injured and this idea that you can have a peaceful and you know harmonious city like new york which has got i mean there's i don't know how many millions of people I think it's like 9 million people in New York or something like that.
sean fitzgerald
8.3, but yeah.
phil labonte
8.3 million people and have no police force or have just a police force that's essentially made up of social workers and people that are there specifically to de-escalate.
That will get people killed.
This is shown the idea of abolish the police or abolish ICE that show that is shown to increase crime.
After the George Floyd riots, you had all these municipal police forces that drew down the level of officers they had that were pulling back on their policing in general, right?
So police would just be like, okay, we're not going to go to crimes to 911 calls.
And you saw a massive uptick in crime.
And now the left is saying, oh, you know, or now Donald Trump has said, you know, there's a significant decrease in crime because of my policies, the policies that put police on the streets.
And it's undeniable.
I mean, just look at the way that Giuliani kind of cleaned up New York in the 90s.
sean fitzgerald
Well, look at New York City in particular.
Like, you know, nationwide, we had a 30% increase in homicide year over year.
It's the largest increase in American history.
And by the way, the second largest is in 2001, where 3,000 people were killed in one day that are in the stats.
That was only a 20% jump from the previous year, adding in the 9-11 homicides into that data set, which obviously you would exclude it because that's an unusual, atypical event.
So largest year-over-year increase in the history of the country from 2019 to 2020.
New York, 47% increase in homicide year over year.
So that was the consequence of a guy dying in Minneapolis.
By the way, New York, the NYPD, they banned neck restraint in 1993 and they still cut the police.
They still punished our police force.
And we saw the consequences with elevated homicide in this city for a long period of time in the George Floyd effect.
In Baltimore, there was no actual George Floyd effect.
And the reason why is because they had already had the Freddie Gray effect when Marilyn Mosby was the prosecutor.
So they had their all-time, like a lot of people will point to the numbers and say they're not as bad as the 90s.
In Baltimore, people don't realize this for since from 2015 to 2022, they were worse than the 90s, the worst in the history of the entire city of Baltimore in terms of homicides, because they had a Black Lives Matter district attorney with a mandate after the Freddie Gray incident.
And now we're seeing them drop that they've replaced that district attorney because yes, when you feel police officers, when you actually have a DA that prosecutes, when you have a mayor that's not an absolute dumbass, crime tends to go down.
And, you know, Eric Adams managed to debunk that because he is a bit of a dumbass.
But when his police commissioner, the first one, the one that had a twin brother that was, you know, taking bribes for nightclubs, allegedly, when he was replaced by the current police commissioner, crime started going down in New York City, somebody who focused on law enforcement in the crucial spaces.
But if you look at Mamdani's record, he's against law enforcement in all of those crucial spaces.
He wants incidents like this to, again, be governed by social workers.
And there's an earlier part of this video because cops learn and they adapt to these situations where they show up and the cop knocks on the door and he's like, he's like, I'm going to take a step back because I've seen a bunch of videos where they just come out like swinging from the jump.
So he takes a step back off the stairs.
Like these guys know what they're doing.
Like they understand the concept.
And little do you know, just like that Sidney Wilson video, the guy does come at him with a knife.
phil labonte
And so, you know, this is a point that you make on your videos a lot is the idea that crime does not drive poverty.
I'm sorry, that poverty does not drive crime, but crime drives poverty.
So if you have, and in a city like New York, I mean, it's so, it's such an essential city to the United States, and there's so much economic activity, but it's not immune to the effects of crime.
You will see, you will see businesses moving out if there's continued crime.
You will see people leaving, people that have the ability to leave, particularly when you combine that with higher taxes or increasing the taxes.
And these are all things that Mamdani wants to do.
And the fact that he refuses to acknowledge the reality that if you raise taxes on the wealthy, the wealthy are the most capable of leaving.
If you decrease police activity, you're going to hurt poor people the most because those are the people that deal with the crime day to day.
So the idea that any of these policies are good for New York seems so counterintuitive and so ridiculous, but yet he's still pushing these ideas.
And there are, like you said, the people that are like Mom Danny stands or whatever.
They just say like, oh man, he's so caring.
It's so great.
But caring is actually having policies that work for people.
Yeah.
Not having policies that look good on TikTok.
sean fitzgerald
Compassion for the criminal is, what you call it, disregard for the victim.
So like he might care about the criminal.
In this particular case, the guy is mentally ill, but like he's obviously a danger.
Like, you know, with, I remember Jordan Neely, where he, he, you know, he's the guy that Daniel Penny put in the hold and he died.
And, you know, a lot of people put all the blame at the end point of that story, which is on Daniel Penny, which was not true.
He was defending people on the on the subway and I'm glad he was exonerated.
But the system, like the systemic failures, to use a left-wing term, to set up that particular incident were all on people like Mom Danny because Neely had broken a woman's like face.
He had punched her in the face, broke her nose and like one of her cheekbones.
He was sentenced to a mental health facility or given a diversion to a mental health facility, but he wasn't confined to that facility.
So 13 days before he was on that subway, he walked out of his own volition.
And people like Mamdani will say, well, he agreed to that diversion.
He said it was a great opportunity for himself, but Neely was a paranoid schizophrenic.
So even if one part of his personality agreed, another one didn't.
And now he's dead as a result of it.
So it's not even compassion for people like this to continuously release them on the streets as Mamdani wanted.
And by the way, advocated for at the statewide level when he was a backer of bail reform and against any reforms to bail reform and now continues to be as the New York City mayor.
Bill Gates & The Epstein Files 00:09:49
phil labonte
Yeah, it just seems ridiculous that there are people that still support these policies because we have so much evidence contrary to what their arguments are.
So we're going to jump to this story to kind of round things out here.
Bill Gates denies Epstein Island claim in new interview.
Now, if you don't know, there was information or there were allegations in the Epstein files that Bill Gates had intercourse with a Russian prostitute, that he acquired an STI from it, and that he was trying to get the remedy from Epstein and then also trying to, I guess, kind of slide it to his wife without her knowing.
Some real, real torrid stuff, really disgusting.
But from X, in a 9 News Australia interview, Gates called a key 2013 email draft from Epstein's files false, insisting his meetings were limited to dinners for global health philanthropy.
He expressed regret for the association, but noted flight logs confirm he only flew on Epstein's plane once from Palm Beach to New York with no trips to Little St. James.
Melinda French Gates shared painful marriage memories tied to those meetings while Rep Nancy Mace called for a Gates subpoena amid ongoing online skepticism from Nancy Mace.
Last night I watched Melinda Gates interview.
I immediately asked the chairman of Oversight James Comer to subpoena Bill Gates.
I have questions for Bill Gates about Epstein.
Now, I mean, this is gross stuff.
Obviously, the idea that not only he would, you know, hang out with Epstein, which is bad in the first place, but then to engage in sexual activity with a Russian prostitute, acquire an S. How hot was the prostitute if she was an adult.
I mean, that's in question, isn't it, when it comes to anything related to Epstein.
But the idea that this is something that can be swept under the rug, like with just an interview, I mean, I think that's ridiculous.
And Bill Gates probably, I mean, he got divorced for a reason.
She had allegations that he was, you know, of infidelity, or he had allegations of infidelity that had been, that are the foundation for the divorce, correct?
sean fitzgerald
I think so.
unidentified
I don't know.
sean fitzgerald
I don't remember that.
I haven't looked too much into his divorce.
But yeah, obviously this is sketchy.
And it's sketchy for two reasons.
Because one, if Bill Gates did this, if he has a stronger association with Epstein that he had been hiding, obviously that's terrible.
And he should be condemned for that.
And anything criminal should be pursued and prosecuted.
But let's say this is kind of like nothing.
And then we find out because they leaked, you know, they dropped 3.5 million pages of documents.
Then people are just keyword searching names and looking for the most like unflattering things for people they already don't like.
Then this is the reason why maybe dumping all this information all at once wasn't the best idea because apparently people are too stupid to look for context.
So I haven't seen the particular email that we're talking about for this.
I mean, you know, I'm much as a conspiracy theorist as anyone.
So I want to believe Bill Gates is a bad guy.
But I mean, for a guy who was trying to reinvent the condom to go raw in a Russian prostitute, I mean, come on, Bill, what are you doing?
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, look, the Epstein files have created such a whirlwind of accusations.
Any name that any person that has someone they just generally don't like, the first thing they did was they keyword search for the name.
And if the name's in there, well, then they can go ahead and say, well, look, this person's in there.
So that means that they've done this, this, this.
And it isn't just about, oh, hey, you know, there's actual evidence.
It's just, oh, I saw this name in here.
And so because of that, they're this bad person, et cetera.
So the idea that releasing the Epstein files in this manner was going to placate anyone or was going to make people say, well, there you go.
Okay.
Now, now we can focus on the people that actually did something.
I think that that was a pie in the sky idea in the first place.
sean fitzgerald
Yeah.
And it's because there's so much in there that nobody's read or is going to read the files.
3.5 million pages.
Zero people will read it.
So again, it's keyword searches, maybe throw it into AI and see what they could produce for you, which by the way, Bill Gates owns the AI.
So, you know, a little suspicious.
It's going to clear him of all wrongdoing.
I'm not saying anything.
I'm just saying.
But like, yeah, nobody's going to read these files.
Like, there's no condensing of it.
There's also still redacted names.
So who knows if like the actual people that would be implicated criminally are not even the ones there.
And all we have is like, you know, Mamdani's mother.
And, you know, I'm not a fan of Mamdani, but if you look at that email, it's like she was running some like charity thing and was like tagged in an email.
And then there's protesters outside of Gracie Mansion yelling at Mamdani, calling him a betrayer and whatnot.
So it's already getting crazy and out of hand.
And that's not even to mention all the fake photos.
Like you've seen the fake photos of Trump surrounded by girls or the photos of Trump with his daughter, like his actual actual child that they're like, look, this was in the Epstein files.
It's like, no, no, that's his kid.
Like you, you guys are ridiculous.
So yeah, this is about what I expected.
Gonna go pretty bad.
phil labonte
I mean, especially today, you know, you were mentioning about fake things.
Nowadays, it's so simple to create a file, you know, or to make a picture that looks like it was in the Epstein files.
People are just taking the headers.
They can create whatever they want, drop it into, drop it onto X.
And if they have some kind of, you know, some kind of following or whatever, it'll spread around.
Or if it's a person that is of high enough notoriety, spread it around.
And then for people on X, that becomes true.
It's like, oh, automatically.
Well, yes, that actually happened.
sean fitzgerald
And by the way, people are complaining about the unredacted names.
If you didn't understand that this was going to happen, like with 3.5 million pages, that they weren't going to redact everything that they're supposed to, like unredacted potential victim names.
Like, yeah, obviously this is going to happen.
Like, I remember I did a thing with Devin Tracy, AIU, and we requested documents from one criminal case that involved the abuse of five minors because the Innocence Project, of course, freed the criminal in that particular case because they were trying to paint them as innocent.
This one trial transcript, they're supposed to redact all the names of the minors.
They're redacted for the first, you know, it's 1,400-page transcript.
They're redacted for the first like, you know, couple hundred, 300 pages.
After that, you start to see the names of all the kids.
People are doing this and none of that was like classified information.
A bunch of this was classified.
So there's even smaller amount of people that are going to do that.
So of course they're going to mess up and not redact things that they should redact, over-redact things that they shouldn't.
It's just so big.
Like it's, it's what it, it's what you would expect.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
And we were mentioning this last night.
The worst part about this is all the people that are actually, you know, that are victim, that are actual victims that were actually trafficked or actually harmed.
Like a lot of times this just makes, it's such a deluge of information that the actual victims get lost in the overwhelming attention that people are giving to their, you know, their monster of choice, whether it be people that don't like Donald Trump, people that don't like Bill Gates, people that don't like whoever was on, you know, whoever you can find in there, the real victims aren't going to be, you know, they're not going to be, they're not going to get the justice that they were looking for.
From Benny Johnson, Bill Gates claims the Epstein files suggest that he got an STD from Russian girls and planned to secretly medicate his wife, Melinda, are false.
He claims he only had dinners, never went to the island, and never met anyone.
Do you believe him?
So we've got this video here.
unidentified
You've no doubt saying the allegations, including some of them from the last 24 to 48 hours.
Are they true?
bill gates
No, apparently Jeffrey wrote an email to himself.
That email was never sent.
The email is false.
So I don't know what his thinking was there.
Was he trying to attack me in some way?
But it just reminds me, every minute I spent with him, I regret and I apologize that I did that.
unidentified
The problem is some of the things that he has sent and some of the information about other people that has come up in those files has been true.
Why would he do this and say this about you, do you think?
bill gates
Nice.
It's factually true that I was only at dinners.
I never went to the island.
I never met any women.
And so the more that comes out, the more clear it'll be that although the time was a mistake, it had nothing to do with that kind of behavior.
unidentified
Is it frustrating to you, given what you've said, that this is now happening?
bill gates
Not really.
I mean, people should hold people who are successful to a very high bar.
And so as these documents come out, they're going to be closely scrutinized.
phil labonte
I don't know that Bill Gates is actually correct about that.
They will be closely scrutinized, but once your name is in there, I don't think that it's going to be a situation where, oh, we found the information that exonerates him.
No, I think that people are going to be like, hey, look, your name's in there.
You're guilty automatically.
serge du preez
That stain doesn't scribe out that easy.
phil labonte
Yeah.
sean fitzgerald
We got to get the behavioral panel guys, you know, the body language experts to review this.
Like, look, I'm not saying Bill Gates did it.
All right.
Everybody relax.
Don't sue me because he has a lot of money.
But when he's like, it's just factually true, like that's a weird way to deny something where he's like, it's just factually true that I only had dinners with him.
Like, don't you know that?
It's like, it's stated.
Like, it's stated factually by who?
By Bill Gates.
phil labonte
Yeah.
sean fitzgerald
That's what he said.
But yeah, so that's rather, that's an odd way of doing it.
But then again, I'm not under the pressure Bill Gates is under, where he's one of the names that people are keyword searching looking for anything in order to get him.
phil labonte
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