Democrats THREATEN Government SHUTDOWN Over ICE Reform
Host: Lisa Reynolds @lisaelizabeth (everywhere)
Host: Lisa Reynolds @lisaelizabeth (everywhere)
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Mayor Discusses Public Safety Threat
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| Hey, guys. | ||
| So let's bring in James. | ||
| James, come on in and tell everybody who you are and what you do in case they don't know and where they can find you. | ||
| Yeah, well, thanks for having me. | ||
| I am James Klug. | ||
| I do political commentary and street conversations on YouTube and social media at James K-L-U-G. | ||
| I'm excited to be here. | ||
| Yeah, I'm happy to have you back because I feel like I have a good flow with you. | ||
| I feel really comfortable with you. | ||
| Anyway, what I really want to do is get- We're gonna have a good time. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, always. | ||
| What I really want to get into today is obviously Tom Homan had a press secretary, and we're gonna play a little bit of that. | ||
| But a couple days ago, we all know that, you know, Trump had conversations, Trump and Homan had conversations with Walls and the mayor of Minnesota. | ||
| And a lot of people, I was freaking out. | ||
| Like, this is concessions. | ||
| It seems like we're backing down. | ||
| And then other people are like, no, he's not. | ||
| We're sending Tom Homan in. | ||
| It's stronger. | ||
| Like, aren't you happy that Tom Homan's in there? | ||
| And to me, it definitely seems like we are making some serious concessions here. | ||
| And I want to get into that with you. | ||
| Right now, we have it out from the White House that the White House is planning to reduce immigration agents. | ||
| We have planning to reduce the number there, which terrifies me. | ||
| Not terrifies me, but it pisses me off a little bit. | ||
| And then ICE officers in Minnesota have also been directed not to interact with agitators, which, I mean, how are they not supposed to when these people are coming up right up to their face? | ||
| They're, you know, 20 inches from their face. | ||
| We would need to know some more details about that one for sure. | ||
| Like, what does that entail, right? | ||
| Is it like just talking crap like a police officer might do to somebody that's interfering, or is it like, hey, you need to move? | ||
| Like, what can they not do, right? | ||
| Well, the official communication says here, it says, do not communicate or engage with agitators. | ||
| I guess, you know, you've been seeing on some of these clips a lot of the agents like saying things back and making comments to them when they're aggressive and in their face, but they're supposed to be de-escalating tensions. | ||
| I just don't see how that would be possible. | ||
| I mean, if somebody's, you know, in my face and screaming at me, you can't, you can't engage with them, say, back up. | ||
| You can't tell them to move. | ||
| You know, I guess they're trying to get away from the jabs that we've been seeing. | ||
| But I mean, there's only so much people can take, even law enforcement officials, in my opinion. | ||
| So there's like this, there's this like idea that they're just protesters sitting there going, no, ICE, no ICE. | ||
| And it's like, no, this is an insurgency, essentially, where we just have people following, harassing, assaulting ICE agents. | ||
| Like, yeah, de-escalation for sure are important, but you're dealing with a sort of insane, psychotic, borderline suicidal individual that's harassing these agents. | ||
| So, yeah, while I don't actually think it's very helpful to have cheeky comments being made, you know, they obviously need to be giving commands and communicating to these psychopaths in the street. | ||
| All right, well, let's get into what Tom and Home, Tom Homan said. | ||
| I'm not going to play all of it because it was a little lengthy, but there's a part I want to talk about where he talks about reducing it and the cooperation that he might have with the county jail. | ||
| So I think it's like right about five minutes. | ||
| Let me just get it right here. | ||
| So let me play this real quick for everyone. | ||
| I will highlight that the Minnesota State Prison System under the Department of Corrections have been honoring ICE detainers. | ||
| And we appreciate that important collaboration, and we're going to expand upon that. | ||
| That decision has made Minnesota safer, not only for residents of Minnesota, but the men and women law enforcement. | ||
| Not just ICE, all law enforcement. | ||
| Rather than arresting the same public safety threat, significant public safety threat over and over again, they agree to work with us to identify those people and remove them. | ||
| I'm also pleased to announce I had a very good meeting with Attorney General, Attorney General Ellison, and he has clarified for me that county jails may notify ICE of the release dates of criminal public safety risks so ICE can take custody of them upon the release from the jail. | ||
| And let me tell you why that's important. | ||
| I know people are a lot concerned, but the manpower has been setting law enforcement manpower. | ||
| Look, I've said this many times before. | ||
| I've said it for the last several years. | ||
| Give us access to the illegal alien public safety threat in the safety and security of a jail. | ||
| It's common sense. | ||
| It's safer for the community. | ||
| It's safer for the agent. | ||
| And it's safer for the alien. | ||
| Because anything happened on the street arrest. | ||
| It just made common sense. | ||
| And for the people to argue, well, we're a welcoming community because we want victims and witnesses of crime that are here illegally to feel safe to come to police without fear of their work with ICE. | ||
| We're not going to talk to the victim witness of crime. | ||
| There's no problem there. | ||
| They should feel safe to come to the police and ask for help. | ||
| All we want is to talk to the person that local and state law enforcement authorities locked in a jail cell. | ||
| They chose to lock this person up. | ||
| That's what we want to talk to, the public safety threat. | ||
| So the argument is that protects victim witnesses of crime. | ||
| It's a bunch of crap. | ||
| Victims and witnesses of crime don't want the bad guy back in their neighborhood either. | ||
| So great progress were there with the Attorney General and local sheriffs. | ||
| All right, I'm going to pause it there. | ||
| But he later goes on to say that because these jails are willing to work with him, that it enables us to draw down the number of ICE agents we have because, you know, they don't have to go out looking for them. | ||
| And then when there's these skirmishes in the street, they don't have to have extra enforcement. | ||
| And that's part of the drawdown process and that they will have people drawing down. | ||
| Now, what he said there was that the DA said that they may contact ICE. | ||
| Now, what is to suggest that these people are actually going to work with ICE? | ||
| Because earlier, you know, after we've had, where did this go? | ||
| After we had the talks, like Trump and Walls had the talks earlier, the mayor came out and said that the mayor, I don't know where it went. | ||
| No, no, it wasn't it. | ||
| It was a Twitter one, but it disappeared. | ||
| Anyway, you know, the mayor came out and said, you know, no, it's not our duty to enforce. | ||
| Yeah, maybe it's here. | ||
| Let me say, let me keep going. | ||
| Hold on one second. | ||
| Oh, here it is. | ||
| Yeah, he goes, it's not the job of our police to keep you. | ||
| It's the job of our police to keep people safe, not enforce federal immigration laws. | ||
| I want them preventing homicides, not hunting down a working dad who contributes, whatever. | ||
| It's similar to the policy Rudy Giuliani had in New York City. | ||
| So my thing is like, they're already kind of signaling that, you know, who knows if the people that are actually working in the jails are actually going to call ICE and law enforcement when these people are let go. | ||
| So I think that they're putting a lot of trust or too much trust in the people on the ground in Minnesota when we know they're part of these activist networks. | ||
| What is the mechanism that's going to ensure that they comply? | ||
| And why should we trust them? | ||
| This seems like a major concession to me without any real assurances. | ||
| Tell me what you think, James. | ||
| Well, I don't think that they should be going forward with, okay, we're just doing worst only right now. | ||
| The message is worst first, but we're picking up collaterals. | ||
| We're picking up all over. | ||
| Like you're not off the table if you're in the country illegally. | ||
| So yes, while other places around the country are cooperating with ICE and it's actually, it's a lot safer when agents like, this is what you want them to be doing. | ||
| So we can't see the future. | ||
| Maybe they end up working with them, but this is what you do want local officials to be doing when it comes to the dangerous criminals because these are the actual dangerous raids that put men and women of ICE, their lives at risk when you're hunting down people that are potentially associated with gangs or are criminals, whatever it may be, the people that are actually like violent in the U.S. | ||
| So you don't want a system where they're just letting that person on the street and ICE just goes and hunts that person down while clashing with lunatics in the street. | ||
| So, you know, I don't have a problem with them trying to do this and trying to work with these insane Marxist leaders in Minnesota. | ||
| I have no problem with that. | ||
| But if that's the, if that's a backdown where it's like, no, that's all we're going to do, absolutely reject it. | ||
| And the American people should too, you know. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so that's why it's kind of concerning that after he said this, you know, the White House puts this statement out saying that they're planning to draw down officers and bring them out. | ||
| So shouldn't we wait and shouldn't we wait to see if they actually do cooperate before we start pulling our ICE agents off the streets over there? | ||
| I think. | ||
| And the other thing is the American people voted not just to have the criminals out. | ||
| Of course, we want them first, but we do want all these illegal immigrants out. | ||
| I mean, we also have plenty of people that aren't caught that are committing fraud. | ||
| They're doing all kinds of crazy things in Minnesota. | ||
| And I think that, you know, the people want them gone just as much as, well, not maybe just as much, but pretty significantly, they want them gone too. | ||
| And quickly. | ||
| So I think that this is going to draw out like how long they're there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And a lot of the data too, like people just play all these games. | ||
| And this is what's to be expected, right? | ||
| Like they'll ask no questions when it comes to importing millions of people illegally into the country, right? | ||
| That's that's the game that's being played here. | ||
| And then when it comes to removal, we need to go through it with a fine-tooth comb. | ||
| You hear all these stats about like, oh, no criminal record or anything like that. | ||
| No criminal record where the person just got here a year ago. | ||
| How do you know? | ||
| Venezuela? | ||
| Well, you have like their paperwork from Venezuela. | ||
| You know, there's people that are suspected gang members, TDA gang members. | ||
| There's people that are MS-13 that have no criminal record in the United States. | ||
| So even the data, you have to be really careful when you're listening to what people or these leftists are saying about this, you know, who's being picked up. | ||
| These oftentimes they're just using it to lie, right? | ||
| No criminal record in the U.S. doesn't really mean too much to somebody that just got here. | ||
| So yeah, I hope that this is not the case. | ||
| I do know from talking to a handful of ICE agents that there are a lot that are in Minneapolis and Minnesota that are not on the street and don't quite need to be there. | ||
| And these are different departments and whatnot. | ||
| That's just what I've heard. | ||
| So I'm not exactly sure, but you have thousands of people and they're not all ERO on the street. | ||
| And so some of them don't need to be there. | ||
| Maybe they're just removing some people to use those resources in places like California, you know, but I don't know. | ||
| We'll have to wait and see for this one. | ||
| Yeah, we have a lot of specifics. | ||
| Well, the other thing that I'm seeing too is that there's a lot of people that are on the right or libertarians in general that are kind of, I guess they're, they're kind of siding with the Democrats a little bit. | ||
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Violent Temper Tantrums
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| Like we have Dave Smith the other day. | ||
| So Tim made a comment on one of his shows saying that like, you know, you know, the left is calling us bootlickers and things like that for supporting ICE. | ||
| And Tim's argument was like, we, we, we are the boot. | ||
| We want this to happen. | ||
| Like this is what we voted for. | ||
| I'm going to play a clip from that. | ||
| It's Serge, it's the one that's like by itself. | ||
| I want you guys to take a listen to this because Dave Smith seems to come real hard at it's it's actually underneath. | ||
| It's like that play button thing. | ||
| Here, can I pull it up? | ||
| I think it's here. | ||
| This one got it. | ||
| Yeah, can I get that? | ||
| All right, I'm going to hit play. | ||
| Real quick, because Dave Smith seems to be attacking us for no reason. | ||
| But I want to go over what Tim said and then what Dave said. | ||
| Hold on one second. | ||
| And anybody else who's cheered for who voted for it too, we're all wearing the boots. | ||
| You're the one crying. | ||
| You're the one saying you're coming in. | ||
| Tim, brother, this is the cringiest shit I've ever seen in my life. | ||
| This is the gayest, cringiest shit I've ever seen. | ||
| Are an eight-year-old boy playing with action figures right now, but you're an adult broadcasting this to hundreds of thousands of people. | ||
| Like, this is just so goddamn. | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| Like, dude, this has crossed the line of like, it's not even in political commentary anymore. | ||
| You're like in some type of fetish right now. | ||
| You're wearing the boot. | ||
| I'm wearing the boot and I'm crushing everybody. | ||
| I crushed you and I crushed you. | ||
| Like, Tim, what the fuck are you doing right now, bro? | ||
| You're spurging out. | ||
| You're not crushing anyone, dude. | ||
| Like, don't get me wrong. | ||
| You're very successful. | ||
| You've made millions and millions of dollars with your show. | ||
| You're sitting in the house playing video games, bro. | ||
| I've seen your setup. | ||
| You're not wearing any boots. | ||
| You're not crushing anybody. | ||
| Oh, by the way, hey, Tim Poole, they just backed down. | ||
| Was that your decision? | ||
| Did you take all right? | ||
| So that obviously really pissed me off because, like, no offense, and I'm not here to really attack Dave Smith, but like, are you a moron? | ||
| Did you not understand like what he was saying when he was talking about the boot? | ||
| No, Tim is not cosplaying thinking he's out there doing this. | ||
| It's like, no, no, it's super bad faith. | ||
| It's super bad faith. | ||
| And he's playing stupid and it's ridiculous. | ||
| Like, obviously, the American people voted for this. | ||
| And obviously, Tim is agreeing that no, no, no, this is what the American people actually voted for. | ||
| We wanted to enforce these laws. | ||
| It's like saying you don't like, oh, we've had enough of shoplifting. | ||
| Everybody's robbing everybody. | ||
| We're going to actually enforce this. | ||
| Somebody calls you a bootlicker and says, no, no, no, what are you talking about? | ||
| I voted for this, this boot that we're talking about here. | ||
| I voted for this enforcement that we are talking about here. | ||
| I voted to enforce the freaking laws on the books, man. | ||
| Yeah, we voted for, we want, as like for any civil society, right? | ||
| We want law and order and our laws to be enforced. | ||
| I mean, I have another clip, and I'm going to play it real quick too, just to give you some context here where Dave's saying that he can't even understand. | ||
| Nobody's been able to explain to him why it's so important to get ICE out. | ||
| I mean, to get these illegal aliens and criminals out of Minnesota. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| Like, what is he thinking? | ||
| I don't even understand. | ||
| And the worst part, at least in terms of the PR, like what you're talking about is more substantive. | ||
| Like, what was the plan here? | ||
| But then, in terms of the PR, and then what part of the plan was to just fucking lie through your teeth? | ||
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Like, what do you think? | |
| Just lie your ass off about what overwhelmingly seems like a bad shooting and then just lie, just tell people it's illegal to have a gun. | ||
| He was coming at cops with his guns. | ||
| He has or he assaulted law enforcement. | ||
| Just like, what are you doing? | ||
| Like, it's just, it's also a ridiculous thing that, like, even if you supported whatever, I don't even know how to say it. | ||
| Even if you support exactly the way Trump was doing it and support ICE and think we need to send them into Minnesota and we need to go after the maybe 200,000 illegal immigrants in Minnesota, like that's such a high priority for whatever reason, which no one can exactly explain. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Of course, it's a high priority. | ||
| There's tons of fraud going on in there. | ||
| These people aren't supposed to be in the country anyway. | ||
| You have their government actively involved in sabotaging anything ICE does. | ||
| Like, how could you even make that statement? | ||
| It seems like the most moronic thing to say. | ||
| And like you said, bad faith. | ||
| But, but, like, are there other people that actually are agreeing with this? | ||
| This seems bizarre to me. | ||
| It seems like he's like lost the plot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I think a lot of these people, I would put them in the category of like caving when there's pressure, some propaganda campaign, like in 2020, right? | ||
| I'm not really surprised by this. | ||
| The left starts misbehaving. | ||
| They go, okay, hold on. | ||
| Whoa, what's going on here? | ||
| Minneapolis is only a major American city and they're only getting extra congressional seats by having all these illegals there. | ||
| You know, it's like, it's just, it's so ridiculous. | ||
| It is important all over the country. | ||
| And it is the most important when you are seeing a resistance this violent, this aggressive, this, I mean, you, you have it from, it's not just like activists on the ground, right? | ||
| And this is why a lot of people knew kind of when this shooting happened, it's like, okay, it doesn't look, doesn't look good. | ||
| We also know that these people are not making smart decisions when it comes to resisting arrests, you know, all of these things, interfering with federal officers, but it is top to bottom. | ||
| So out of any city, this should be a city that is being targeted by the Trump administration. | ||
| You let them do whatever they want. | ||
| Everyone else says, great, we're going to take note. | ||
| We're going to follow suit. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's literally like I call them, I'm calling them violent temper tantrums, right? | ||
| It's encouraging these violent temper tantrums. | ||
| And the minute that you back down is the minute they're like, oh, hey, guess what? | ||
| This works. | ||
| And you're going to see it in every single city. | ||
| So for Dave to say that is just disingenuous. | ||
| And then to act like this guy wasn't a violent instigator, like he wasn't. | ||
| Wait, when was this? | ||
| Was this before that video came out? | ||
| Like right before or something? | ||
| No, this was yesterday. | ||
| I think it was even after it. | ||
| And he's sitting there saying that like, you know, a lot of people are saying that, oh, his behavior before, because that was like two weeks before he got that guy got arrested and released for, you know, kicking out the taillight and all. | ||
| That like that doesn't matter because this was a separate incident. | ||
| Like, no, he's constantly going and behaving that way. | ||
| And just because we don't have some like, you know, 30 seconds before footage on how he was acting and his type of behavior there doesn't mean that they didn't understand that he was being a violent threat the entire time. | ||
| Like they also know. | ||
| It's reported that he also broke his rib too, right? | ||
| And so I don't think even that video that we saw with the taillight incident, which by the way, it's just another, you know, this is like, this is how all of these activists are. | ||
| So it's really not surprising when you see this footage. | ||
| You could kind of expect it at a certain point. | ||
| If it is just a protester, right? | ||
| They're very different than these people. | ||
| They're not protesting at all. | ||
| So, but with that footage, I don't even think that was the video where he broke his rib. | ||
| So he's probably been just doing this on his off time. | ||
| You know, he's nursing and then during his free time, he's like rioting the streets, basically spitting on federal agents, attacking their vehicles with a loaded firearm. | ||
| And by the way, quick note, if you, if anybody, first of all, he actually had a, he should have had his CCW taken away after assaulting federal officers. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| But so it's unfortunate that that was not enforced there. | ||
| And in saying this, I'm not saying that any of this stuff is really a death sentence, but if you've ever taken a CCW class, concealed carry weapons class, the first thing, basically the entire course, right? | ||
| Depending on wherever you are, however long that course is, whatever, is the entire course is pretty much teaching you not to do what this guy is doing. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Not because it's a death sentence, but because you can put yourself in a really crappy situation when you are carrying a firearm. | ||
| It demands responsibility, not behaving like an ape in the street, especially around law enforcement. | ||
| The other thing is, what happened to protesting being like, you know, 30 yards away across the street with your picket signs and chanting slogans? | ||
| Like when did like lawful protesting be let's stand two inches away from a cop's face and yell and yell and blow whistles and scream and spit on him? | ||
| That's not, I'm sorry, that's not like, you know, your freedom of speech to me. | ||
| That's, that's obstructing. | ||
| That is violent. | ||
| And that is, you know, it's problematic. | ||
| Like even just like blowing those whistles and being like, you know, it just creates so much chaos and it and it really ramps up the environment. | ||
| It's like you're, the people can't hear what's going on. | ||
| You want these officers to make these split second decisions. | ||
| It's almost like they want their own people to, you know, get deleted so that they can use them as martyrs to keep pushing these narratives and to get their way, to have their violent temper tantrums work. | ||
| That is the entire goal, actually. | ||
| It's not almost like that. | ||
| That is literally the goal of all of this stuff is just we're talking about white liberal jihadis just like committing suicide. | ||
| That's what the goal is. | ||
| Right. | ||
| If these, if these, if these officials actually believed that this was the Gestapo, these were Nazis, whatever it may be, wouldn't they be sending state police? | ||
| Wouldn't they be sending their local law enforcement to be impeding and protecting the American people instead of saying, you guys are the ones that have to do this? | ||
| And sorry if you die. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I'm afraid that this is going to spread to more communities, even with a drawdown, because because of concessions, it looks like, you know, that these protesters are getting their way. | ||
| But then, so now we have people like my DA, Krasner, Soros-Backed, Krasner, saying, I mean, I'm talking like, I don't understand why these DAs aren't getting pulled out and arrested for inciting violence. | ||
| Listen to what Krasner has to say here. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| The way they hunted down Nazis for decades. | ||
| We will find your identities. | ||
| We will find you. | ||
| We will achieve justice. | ||
| And this talking there. | ||
| He's talking about hunting down ICE officials and like Nazis and arrest them. | ||
| And like he is, I think that like to even say that you're going to hunt down ICE officials, how is that not obstructing justice in its in its own right? | ||
| We couldn't. | ||
| You know, the rhetoric is so horrifying. | ||
| It's it's gotten here because nobody checked in the beginning. | ||
| Like remember month one of the Trump administration when deportations started ramping up? | ||
| You would hear, it was a little bit edgy. | ||
| It was a little bit crazy at the time, right? | ||
| You would hear local officials. | ||
| I remember specifically one in San Diego, them calling a local official calling ICE Nazis. | ||
| And they were calling them Nazis when they were deporting. | ||
| They were doing an ICE raid, a targeted raid on an MS-13 gang member, and they were calling them Nazis. | ||
| And at that time, it was like, uh-oh, here we go. | ||
| But what they did is nobody checked them. | ||
| So it's gotten worse and it's gotten worse and it's gotten worse to where now we have DAs calling to literally hunt them down in the street. | ||
| This is absolutely insane. | ||
| And last point, look at, just remember like a few moments over the last five years where the left took or the last, however many years, 10 years where the left took something that Donald Trump said out of context and ran with it for an entire week, right? | ||
| Good people on both sides, bloodbath hoax. | ||
| Remember that during the campaign? | ||
| Bloodbath referring to like an economic challenge. | ||
| And they were saying literally, like they have to take everything out of context, stretch it, and then full speed ahead using their propaganda machine saying that Donald Trump is calling for violence when he wasn't. | ||
| And then you have this situation where it's like, it's not even debatable what you're saying. | ||
| What you're saying is insane and will result in people getting hurt. | ||
| There is no doubt in anybody's mind. | ||
| Yeah, there's no mincing words here. | ||
| I mean, he's literally saying he's going to hunt them down like ICHA. | ||
| And then everybody says that it's Trump that turns up the rhetoric, but it's always the Democrats that are turning up the rhetoric and causing the violence. | ||
| And yet the right is the ones that are accused of being the violent ones. | ||
| I don't see where we go from here. | ||
| Like, I know everybody's like, oh, things are calming down. | ||
| It doesn't seem like civil war and we're trying to de-escalate. | ||
| But how can you de-escalate when the leaders of our country are insisting upon fueling the fire and keeping this going for as long as possible? | ||
| It would be like, you know, I would think, okay, maybe they would, you know, maybe they would have a decent argument if the right elected officials were saying when FBI agents were hunting J Sixers down in their homes and whatever. | ||
| And there was a lot of crazy things going on there. | ||
| There was a lot of insane, insane raids going on there, arresting people that were, what, misdemeanor trespass, kicking down their door with loaded guns. | ||
| I mean, there's insane stuff, right? | ||
| And I don't even remember hearing elected officials that were conservatives saying, hunt down FBI agents in the streets. | ||
| And I think the reason for that is because that is insane. | ||
| And you'll obviously get people killed, and the mainstream media would run with it for years. | ||
| You would never hear the end of that. | ||
| If they use that rhetoric, you would never hear the end of it. | ||
| I still talk to people on the street that bring up patriotically and peacefully make your voices heard. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Donald Trump telling people to, we're going to march on to the Capitol and make our, you know, make your voices heard. | ||
| I still hear that rhetoric. | ||
| I still hear that from people on the street, let alone what we're hearing now. | ||
| And they'll just memory hold this, right? | ||
| They'll memory hold us because they are the peaceful people. | ||
| There can never be violent ever. | ||
| Yeah, I think that I think I really believe like this is the first Renee Good and maybe even the second shooting was the actual turning point of like when you look back in history and you say this is like you know um the shot heard around the world type deal, right? | ||
| Like this is the that was the start of the American, the second American Civil War. | ||
| I think I think we're in one. | ||
| You have not only now you have elected officials, you have the media, which has been doing it anyway. | ||
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Resisting The Rhetoric
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| Listen to this, listen to this other, I got all kinds of crazy clips to show you today. | ||
| Listen to Colbert, right? | ||
| Saying, you know, don't compare ICE or Border Patrol to Nazi agents. | ||
| That's an unfair, an unfair comparison. | ||
| The Nazis were willing to show their faces. | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| Stop. | ||
| Listen, it's so bad. | ||
| But Vino went on complaining. | ||
| Look, Dana, they're trying to portray Border Patrol agents and ICE agents as Gestapo, Nazi, and many other words. | ||
| Yes, do not compare ICE or Border Patrol agents to the Nazis. | ||
| That's an unfair comparison. | ||
| The Nazis were willing to show their faces. | ||
| These people should not be allowed to be on TV. | ||
| This is what I'm saying. | ||
| I swear to God, it drives me crazy that they have been just latching on to just some out-of-context clip that Trump has said and used it for years. | ||
| And I mean, years. | ||
| And here we are using this rhetoric. | ||
| It is insane, openly insane, violent. | ||
| This will literally get people killed. | ||
| It will get people killed. | ||
| I got to work over it and then I'll be done with the clips for now. | ||
| But did you see the breaking bag? | ||
| I think it was you. | ||
| Actually, you were the one who told me about it, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| By the way, my screen is before you jump into that. | ||
| I am hearing it, but I am stuck on the Dave Smith one from my view. | ||
| Oh, how is that? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's okay. | ||
| Somebody else can deal with it. | ||
| But yeah, Serge will help out here. | ||
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That's good. | |
| I was trying to text him. | ||
| Oh, here. | ||
| Let me play this one. | ||
| Holy crap. | ||
| This dude. | ||
| This is time for a revolution. | ||
| It's time for it. | ||
| And they don't even know that's what they're starting. | ||
| You know, some very rich old white men are exerting their power to suppress our own people, thus creating a feeling of civil war in the streets, preparing the hate, the haters to hate, teaching them how to shoot. | ||
| They're not even trained right to kill. | ||
| This is all a preparation for a very insidious problem that's happening in our world. | ||
| And for me, I have to speak out that we will not be iced out. | ||
| This is not going to happen. | ||
| They can't take us all down. | ||
| If the whole world showed up on Putin's doorstep or on the Iranian's doorship or in Washington, it would stop. | ||
| They'll kill a 550 million or however, but the rest of us would survive with a new, we have, this is time for a revolution. | ||
| It's time for it. | ||
| And they don't even know that's what they're starting. | ||
| But we have to be strong enough to know that we can change the world. | ||
| We have to change it from within. | ||
| So if I'm spiritually ready and right, you know, and I'm ready to understand other people and to agree to disagree with them and say, okay, let's find the solution together, then that starts to change things. | ||
| Not by deporting immigrants, not by killing brown and even white people on the street. | ||
| It's crossing over now. | ||
| And believe me, this is going to really spark the nature of so many people who are going to show up and say, no more. | ||
| I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore. | ||
| They want it. | ||
| They want it to happen and they think they can win. | ||
| I think they're sadly mistaken, but it's clear that the left wants this to boil over, come to a head, and they want a civil war, not us. | ||
| I've said this before. | ||
| They are one propaganda campaign away from strapping suicide vests on and just like, you know, eliminating themselves. | ||
| I swear to God, this is how insane this rhetoric is. | ||
| Also, I don't know if you've seen, but there's a lot of memes highlighting the Shrek. | ||
| What is it? | ||
| Like, I don't know if it's Shrek two or one. | ||
| I don't even know, but there's the Shrek scene with Lord Farquad, and he's like, many of you will die, but that is a risk that I am willing to make. | ||
| Like, that's literally what these people keep doing. | ||
| You're not getting on the front lines and doing this stuff. | ||
| It is, it is just so out of touch, so insane. | ||
| It's driven all by propaganda lies. | ||
| Yeah, that takes me back to Dave Smith. | ||
| Like Dave Smith saying, like, Tim, you're playing games. | ||
| Like, Tim's talking about like, that's our boot because that's what we voted for. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| These people are cosplaying. | ||
| These people are sitting up in their mansions and being like, there's going to be fight. | ||
| They're not fighting on the ground. | ||
| They're going to go get in their private jet and take off the Bora Bora. | ||
| They're not going to actually be involved in it. | ||
| It's going to be these deranged everyday Americans that are like, you know, hopped up on SSRIs that are going to be the ones out there in the streets getting slaughtered by actual, you know, patriots that want to support our government and the things that we voted for and having like a law and order, you know, government. | ||
| Like, I just don't understand. | ||
| These people, they want it. | ||
| They want it. | ||
| They act like we are the problem, but they're the ones that want to destroy America. | ||
| I don't know if I, I don't think I brought this on the show, brought this up on the show yesterday. | ||
| I'm not exactly sure. | ||
| But you remember when we were doing Timcast IRL and we were, it was the night of the election, which was a very fun evening for many people. | ||
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Good time. | |
| At the Daily Wire. | ||
| And a lot of what we were talking about at the time, before and after we knew that Donald Trump won the election, right, is we were talking specifically, a lot of the conversation was about this, is what he was willing, what he was going to do. | ||
| What was Agenda 47? | ||
| Number two on the website of Agenda 47 was mass deportations. | ||
| The quote is something along the lines of enacting the largest deportation effort in American history, right? | ||
| And so what we were talking about was under the Obama administration, they brought in women, children, and millions of them. | ||
| And then under the Biden administration, who was it, right? | ||
| Military age men. | ||
| And then we were kind of looking at this concoction that they were creating. | ||
| And it's like, if you pursue mass deportations, what we were going to, and this is what we were saying at the time, because these people are so easy to read and so predictable every single time. | ||
| So you're saying, well, they're going to be rioting in the streets. | ||
| We might see some of the worst riots we've seen in modern American history. | ||
| And they're going to be cranking the rhetoric up like this. | ||
| They're going to be violent. | ||
| They're going to be resisting. | ||
| They are going to do everything in their power to prevent these people, these precious illegals from being deported. | ||
| This should show you just how crucial these people are for their political structure. | ||
| I'm pretty convinced that they would just never win an election ever again if they didn't have illegal immigrants boosting up congressional seats. | ||
| And, you know, what we were talking about on the show is it's happening right now. | ||
| I hope it doesn't continue to get worse, but this rhetoric is going to lead to something crazy. | ||
| Yeah, I hope that, I mean. | ||
| Yeah, I hope that doesn't, I guess. | ||
| You're like, well, the reporting on it is really crazy and entertaining. | ||
| There's all these people watching live streams. | ||
| I know how many people, I have a buddy. | ||
| He's watching like live streams. | ||
| He's like, dude, my, I don't even watch sports anymore anymore. | ||
| I watch all the live streams of all the protests and the riots. | ||
| And that's just my monitoring the situation. | ||
| That's my game time. | ||
| Yeah, well, I'm not interested for an entertainment perspective. | ||
| I'm interested in it because I want to use like, I want to be the boot. | ||
| I want to put these people, you know, in their place. | ||
| I'm trying to watch my language because you keep getting trouble for the things that I say that I really want to do. | ||
| Yeah, Dave's going to clip this. | ||
| He's going to cry on his freaking show. | ||
| Bro, you guys are crazy. | ||
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No, shut up. | |
| No, it's not that like, I just don't want these. | ||
| I don't want these insane people causing chaos in the streets anymore. | ||
| I want them all locked up. | ||
| I want them off the streets. | ||
| And I'm talking about the American citizens that are causing the chaos because honestly, right now, yes, the illegals are like, and the criminals are doing crime and things like that. | ||
| But the people that are really causing chaos are these like, you know, white liberal lunatic women. | ||
| Like, I would like them, honestly, I think they should be a priority. | ||
| We should get them off the street. | ||
| If there's any way to like mess around them up, I'm all here for it. | ||
| They've got to go. | ||
| But no, like, because we need law and order. | ||
| So, so I'm here for it. | ||
| Like, I don't know if I want anybody backing down or things to, you know, not come to a head because these people need to be stopped. | ||
| And I don't see another way for that to happen. | ||
| I don't find it entertaining. | ||
| I don't want anybody hurt in the country, but I also want these people to go away. | ||
| I don't know a nicer way to say that. | ||
| Like, I want them to go away and be gone. | ||
| Yeah, I think my point of saying that was like people are just addicted to the good ratings and they're addicted to the entertainment on their end, right? | ||
| A lot of people, I mean, you know, we understand that this can go down a bad direction, but watching lefties protests and whatnot, I'm not going to pretend that people don't enjoy society needs a little bit. | ||
| Unfortunately, there's real world consequences. | ||
| Yeah, sometimes I really think that there's going to be like a reset in America before the actual like great reset would even take place. | ||
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Why We Want ICE To Stop Deporting U.S. Citizens
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| Like I think we're at a boiling point here. | ||
| And I'm not, and I think it's kind of necessary sometimes. | ||
| And I know that seems like extreme, but like it, but it is. | ||
| Anyway, let's get off the. | ||
| This is why we used to deport communists, by the way, because they just do this in every single society. | ||
| They destroy and destabilize every single society. | ||
| That's why we, it used to be illegal to be here. | ||
| Actually, it still is technically illegal to be. | ||
| Yeah, like, but that's not enforced either. | ||
| Like nothing is actually enforced. | ||
| Like they are supposed to, you know, they're supposed to work with ICE and let them know when the criminals are getting out of prison. | ||
| But like I said earlier, we don't know if they're going to do that. | ||
| We are supposed to make sure that people with radical ideologies don't come and take root in our country. | ||
| And we should be actively trying to weed them out. | ||
| But we don't have a functioning government. | ||
| Speaking of, that'll bring me into the next clip. | ||
| We don't have a functioning government. | ||
| We're on the loom. | ||
| We are, you know, we are on the verge of another government shutdown because Congress is being annoying. | ||
| And so I'm going to go here. | ||
| Wait, let me just wait one second. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So I don't know if, yeah, so Democrats are poised to trigger a government shutdown if the ICE, if the White House won't meet demands for ICE reform. | ||
| And here we go again with Congress not doing their job. | ||
| And the things that the Democrats are calling for are fundamentally insane. | ||
| So, let me just go over a little bit about what's going on and how we get like why we're here. | ||
| So, back in like the end of fiscal year, last fiscal year, and back in like September, we did some omnibuses, some mega buses, and we did some appropriation bills. | ||
| And some of the government, this would only be a partial shutdown. | ||
| Let me go real quick here. | ||
| So, right here, it'll say, What is not yet funded? | ||
| Okay, it's defense, education, health and human services, homeland security, housing and urban development, labor, state, transportation, and treasury. | ||
| And there's a couple things that are interesting in there. | ||
| Right now, what's funded and what will stay open is agriculture, commerce, energy, environment protection agency, the interior, the FBI, the DEA, the ATF. | ||
| And so, what they're trying to do, the Dems, they're trying to make sure that in this funding package for DHS, that they include, sorry, we can bring this up. | ||
| So, this is going to be what's in it. | ||
| But what I want to highlight right over here is that I just had it in it. | ||
| Sorry, that's a guy. | ||
| It just disappeared. | ||
| Wait, hold on. | ||
| You lost me. | ||
| So, the things that they want out, why can't I find it now? | ||
| I'll distract him. | ||
| No, yeah, he moved. | ||
| Serge moved me a little bit. | ||
| And I was like, wait a minute. | ||
| He was going to the title, but I was like, no, no, I had it plugged for a reason. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| Oh, here it goes. | ||
| Here it goes. | ||
| I found it. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So what they're trying to say is what they're including in these negotiations. | ||
| For the record, in the big beautiful bill, there was they we had passed money to basically fund ICE and CBP like for years to come. | ||
| So what they're what they're doing here in shutting and like like trying to hold this hostage with all the other things when it comes to funding for DHS is what they're trying to achieve is they want to ensure ICE does not deport U.S. citizens. | ||
| Like, we're not doing that, you weirdos. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Two, to force ICE agents to use body cameras, which means you were talking about we're here for. | ||
| I like body cameras and we've seen since BLM, the enforcement of body cameras, it only like, you know, let's like. | ||
| What do they call that? | ||
| It was the monkey's paw. | ||
| Isn't that what they call that? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Is that the phrase? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| But the point is that they've only been, they've only like really helped law enforcement since then because you get to see how insane these people that they're coming into contact with behave. | ||
| And it honestly exonerates them 90%. | ||
| So I'm okay for the body cameras, right? | ||
| They want to be able to bar ICE from shooting at moving vehicles. | ||
| They're not shooting at them if they're like halfway down the street and driving. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| They're moving towards them to run them over after they block them in. | ||
| So like the things that they're calling for are crazy. | ||
| They don't want ICE to wear their masks and we could talk about that later. | ||
| And they want to, what? | ||
| I was going to say super quick about the driving into them too. | ||
| I mean, there was one that they memory hold in Portland, which was gang members illegally in the country ramming them with their vehicle, basically totaling the, I believe, CBP vehicle. | ||
| So yeah, they don't want ICE or CBP to defend themselves in situations where the vehicle is being used as a weapon. | ||
| All that's going to do is encourage people to continue blocking them in then to drive their car into them because they can maybe shoot you if you're being physically aggressive on the ground. | ||
| But if you're driving your car into them, then that won't be allowed. | ||
| Like, what are suicide by ICE is the ultimate sacrifice for a lot of these people. | ||
| You know, it'll, it'll, it's like the most attention that they'll ever get in their lives. | ||
| And I'm not even like saying that really cheeky. | ||
| I literally mean that. | ||
| Yeah, no, that they, they think this is their religion and they think they're martyrs and that they are going to be glorified for the rest of their lives as somebody who is 100% devoted to the cause. | ||
| 72 they thems. | ||
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| They hate 72. | ||
| That was really funny. | ||
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Why They Can't Just Save Act?
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| They're also saying that the bill does reduce funding for ICE enforcement and removal operations by $115 million. | ||
| It will decrease the number of detention beds by $5,500. | ||
| It'll set aside the funding for camera and for body cameras for agents and reduce funding for the Border Patrol. | ||
| No, no, we don't want any of this. | ||
| However, if they take it out of this mini bus that, so the House passed the mini bus and it had appropriation, it had funding set aside for this. | ||
| It's over in the Senate now. | ||
| If the Senate takes out the Homeland Security section, which they're talking about doing, it still has to go back to the House for approval. | ||
| What they're failing to mention, or a lot of people don't seem to be talking about, is under DHS is also FEMA. | ||
| Now, since the Big Beautiful bill has funded ICE operations for many years to come, even if they stall this section, they take it out and stall the section because it's got to go back to the House and that won't happen in time by the 30th, by tomorrow. | ||
| ICE is still going to run, but FEMA will shut down. | ||
| And we have all these, we're looking at a new storm coming. | ||
| We have all these things that we need FEMA's help on. | ||
| So they're really only screwing their constituents. | ||
| They're really going to tie the hands of FEMA while ICE will get to continue. | ||
| And then we've got Anna Paulina Luna and Senator Thun being cool. | ||
| Let me pull this up. | ||
| Anna Paulina Luna has said that if the Senate takes out that portion of the bill and sends it back to the House for approval, she's going to make sure that the SAVE Act is attached to it. | ||
| And she's gathered a group of Republican members that will refuse to vote. | ||
| They're going to halt the floor, like, you know, shut down the floor. | ||
| And it won't be, like, it won't even be able to go back to the Senate until the SAVE Act's in. | ||
| So, hey, listen, you want to try it? | ||
| Let's go because I want the SAVE Act. | ||
| Let me show you what Annapolina Luna's saying here. | ||
| Let me start it from the beginning. | ||
| Well, look, I actually think that this might be serendipitous in timing. | ||
| And if I could explain for a moment, so what happens is, is when the appropriations are going to be rejected by Senate over DHS funding, ultimately that means that those appropriations bills have to come back to the House. | ||
| And so I've actually formed an alliance with a few, a handful of other Republican members that will refuse to vote on any legislation to send it over to the Senate unless there's something specifically placed in it in something called a rule that would prevent the Senate from stripping out the SAVE Act. | ||
| So it would force them, if they choose to shut down the government, when they choose to reopen it, they will have to also then to simultaneously vote on the SAVE Act, which would basically save our country with election integrity. | ||
| So we can play this game of chicken, but I do have a handful of Republicans that will stand with me very strong and ensure that this is done on behalf of the American people. | ||
| So we're here to deliver. | ||
| Now that's like, listen, you know my thoughts on women in Congress or women in politics in general, even though here I am talking about it. | ||
| But Anna Paulina Luna is a boss right now, right? | ||
| I think this is, you know, like she said, it's serendipitous. | ||
| I think that, you know, the SAVE Act really will change a lot of things fundamentally for us and give us the edge that we need. | ||
| So I honestly hope that the Democrats, I think they don't know they're playing with fire. | ||
| I hope they dig their heels in. | ||
| And we do force it to, we do force a vote on the SAVE Act. | ||
| Yeah, I'm curious. | ||
| You know, you're mentioning FEMA would get hit. | ||
| I'm curious when it comes down to a government shutdown, who the American people would be putting pressure on the most, you know, because they'd probably just see ICE raids and all of that continuing and not really understand what exactly is going on. | ||
| But yeah, no, if they do that, that would be, that would be amazing. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| Why not just, I feel like we're getting so little action from Congress. | ||
| And I feel like a lot of when I talk to conservatives, that's going to be one of their biggest concerns is: look, we have the House and the Senate, and I just feel like we're not actually doing too much. | ||
| Well, why are they not just passing all this legislation on the side? | ||
| Why are they not trying to push for this stuff? | ||
| You know, I try to explain this to people as somebody who worked for Congress before. | ||
| And, you know, I hear everybody say, What do you think? | ||
| We've got to get rid of these rhinos. | ||
| And we do. | ||
| Like, that's what I want. | ||
| I want to get rid of the rhinos too. | ||
| But a lot of people forget that, you know, these people are beholden to their constituents. | ||
| And a lot of these districts are purple or their purple districts or they only slightly lean real Republican. | ||
| And if they start, and if they do a lot of these ultra conservative, super MAGA positions, then their constituents get really mad. | ||
| And then they protest their office. | ||
| They do all kinds of crazy stuff. | ||
| They will like, you know, keep calling your office every five seconds. | ||
| And then they won't get reelected. | ||
| And you got a better chance of getting a Democrat in that seat, like I said, in these purple ones. | ||
| And so a lot of these members, instead of like just voting to do the right thing, they're really, you know, and they're really, I hear I go again with the women, but like most of their base, like most of the voters are women. | ||
| There's a hot women turn out in bigger numbers than men do. | ||
| And they don't want to offend the suburban moms. | ||
| I've been hearing it over and over again. | ||
| I think we need to do a better job messaging. | ||
| Like I see people kind of bringing up the packets of like all the people who have been, especially kids and women and things like that, who have been hurt by these illegal immigrants, whether like, whether it's, you know, Jocelyn Ngari or any of these other people. | ||
| We need to do a better job of messaging that and highlighting that. | ||
| Like we are keeping these streets safer for you and your children rather than like, oh, these poor immigrants who are just duds. | ||
| We have to find a better way to counter that narrative so that the congressional people will have more support from their base in these more purple areas. | ||
| But the reason that you're not seeing government is because they're not like more from Congress is they're not unified. | ||
| Yeah, I understand you have to play with the tools that you have, like bottom line, right? | ||
| I think a good example of this not being doable was what codifying like the Doge cuts, right? | ||
| You just, if you don't have the votes, you don't have the votes, right? | ||
| Not every single person in Congress that's conservative is MAGA. | ||
| And like you said at the beginning, yes, you know, primarily get them out of there, replace them, but we're still dealing with the reality of the situation that we have right now. | ||
| I don't know if every single thing is so MAGA, though. | ||
| I mean, like, I would love to see legislation passing where preventing the next administration, whenever that is, God forbid, of Democrats from just doing what they did once again, creating random the CNVH program, CBP1 app, and just mass importing an additional millions per year on top of, you know, allowing everyone to take advantage of the asylum process. | ||
| Like I would love to see a little bit more reform there that's real reform, not the way that liberals say it, but like actual reform so they can't just destroy the country for four years and then, you know, riot when we try to clean it up. | ||
| It would be really, really great to see some preventative maintenance being done. | ||
| So because I hear that all the time, people are like, oh, well, next time Democrats win, they're just going to destroy it once again. | ||
| Hey, deport 4 million people. | ||
| Wow, that'd be crazy. | ||
| Internal internal removals, that would be unbelievable. | ||
| But they imported, you know, 10 million. | ||
| So it's still a victory for Democrats. | ||
| We need to figure out how to utilize Congress and the votes that we have to prevent these, you know, another crisis from happening. | ||
| That's just one example. | ||
| I hear it all the time, though. | ||
| People are just, they feel as though there's not much action in Congress. | ||
| And there's really not. | ||
| There really isn't. | ||
| How do you feel about some of their demands? | ||
| How do you feel about like the ICE agents being allowed to wear masks? | ||
| And, you know, like there's other governments, especially, I think it's Maryland right now is trying to pass a state law saying that ICE agents are not allowed to be masked. | ||
| They have no authority over that. | ||
| California did the same thing. | ||
| They have no authority. | ||
| I know, but like, but now the Democrats are trying to get it passed federally. | ||
| And, you know, I kind of like see where people are coming from a little bit there, but, but not when you have, like, we showed you Larry Krasner, like, we're going to hunt you down, you Nazis. | ||
| We're going to hunt you down and identify you. | ||
| Not when they're being doxxed and they're being threatened at home just for enforcing the law that the American people voted for. | ||
| I mean, at this point, I guess under circumstances, maybe I wouldn't like them masked, but now I understand, like, I'm seeing what's happening to them and I understand like they need to be protected. | ||
| Under normal circumstances, we would all be like, yeah, fair enough. | ||
| You know, SWAT teams for specific raids and whatnot. | ||
| Like a lot of a lot of the people that they're dealing with are really nasty people. | ||
| I have no problem being masked up if I'm dealing with like cartel people. | ||
| You know, if I'm removing gang members from the street, like I don't really feel like letting those people know what I look like. | ||
| And for federal operations, that's a thing, right? | ||
| They actually do that. | ||
| But this is normal circumstances. | ||
| What we are looking at, a DA saying we're going to hunt you down because you basically Nazis. | ||
| Yeah, keep their masks on. | ||
| Like, don't even tell. | ||
| We can have this argument another time where leftists aren't, you know, rabbit animals hunting them down in the streets and trying to kill them and their families. | ||
| Yeah, especially because like even if something, I guess they're, they want them identified. | ||
| Well, we know why they want them identified, but their excuse for why they want them identified would be like, okay, if a Renee Good situation happens, how are we going to know who the agent is to prosecute them? | ||
| I guess I'm playing devil's advocate. | ||
| That's what they would say. | ||
| But you know who's assigned to what detail and where they are. | ||
| And they have, you know, reporting. | ||
| We, we would know who the agent is should we need to, should something go wrong. | ||
| But the average citizen doesn't need to know what these people's faces look like. | ||
| And you're right. | ||
| And the criminals don't need to know what these people's faces look like or where they live or anything like that. | ||
| It's safety for the officers involved who are really just, like I said, trying to enforce the law. | ||
| I don't think they're having any trouble identifying these guys when they need to. | ||
| I haven't seen a single example of that, actually. | ||
| In fact, I've only seen bad faith arguments for it. | ||
| And this, and that's really the, that's, that is the phrase here, bad faith argument. | ||
| Because under normal circumstances, in fact, for somebody making a good faith argument against the mass, right? | ||
| Mainly, let's say a libertarian or conservative, whatever, you can have that debate. | ||
| It is a fair and reasonable debate to have. | ||
| It's absolutely fair and reasonable. | ||
| Are the Democrats making that legit argument of we need to know who it is? | ||
| No, they are not making this argument in good faith. | ||
| They do not care. | ||
| You will not calm them down once you pass this legislation. | ||
| If you were to give in to Democrats, they will not calm down. | ||
| They will only utilize this and target these people's families and it'll be an absolute mess. | ||
| So, you know, under normal circumstances, decent debate, welcome it. | ||
| It's excellent. | ||
| That's not what's happening here. | ||
| Yeah, it's definitely not. | ||
| Well, I mean, like I said, when I'm looking at what they're asking for, I would totally support body cameras because I think it would really help. | ||
| Like, if they're going to give in to any of the demands, let's give into the body camera ones. | ||
| Like, let's make that mandatory. | ||
| I'm 100%. | ||
| I have no problem with that. | ||
| I don't have any problem with that at all. | ||
| I think it totally. | ||
| At least right now with the information that I know about it, I have no problem with that. | ||
| It blew up in the left's face when they did it with police. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What was the other thing when we were talking before the show, you said that they were demanding too that I don't have listed here? | ||
| It was something interesting and I can't remember what it was. | ||
| You were like, they're trying to. | ||
| Do you remember what you were saying? | ||
| Yes, for sure. | ||
| So there was rumors. | ||
| This was from Bill Malujan and some reporting. | ||
| There was rumors. | ||
| And I don't know if it's in there. | ||
| You might know better than me on that, but it was requiring, I believe, a judicial warrant for every single arrest. | ||
| That was done for ICE, which is which is insane, by the way. | ||
| So, that's like you show up, there's no more collateral arrests anymore. | ||
| So, you can't go, oh, hey, we know that this guy came into the country illegally, twice deported. | ||
| He has, you know, we need to get rid of him. | ||
| You go to where he is, he's hanging around other people in an illegal, you know, there's like illegals and stuff. | ||
| They all run away, and ICE is no longer allowed to detain anybody else that is running from immigration and customs enforcement. | ||
| They're also, you would end up with, you know, you can't do an administrative warrant. | ||
| A lot of these are issued internally in DHS. | ||
| So, yeah, you would end up with like a thousand deportations a year. | ||
| The only goal of any of these things is just to stop the deportations. | ||
| That's the only goal. | ||
| In a lot of these areas, you have local officials that aren't even issuing out a judicial warrant because they're activists and they're not working with, you know, ICE for deportations. | ||
| That's because deportations are not a criminal action, right? | ||
| It is always an administrative action. | ||
| They're not even, they're not even the same. | ||
| So, to say that they have to follow the same criminal rules for an administrative process is ridiculous. | ||
| And honestly, you know, I understand that our Constitution guarantees us some, you know, basic, basic rights, but it, I feel like that applies to citizens. | ||
| Now, the Supreme Court has ruled that some do, some don't. | ||
| It's a little bit different with illegal aliens, but I'm sorry, none of that applies to you if you're here legally because you shouldn't be here. | ||
| Um, if you're here and you have like, um, if you're on like a visa or if you have like a legal permanent residency, fine, then you can be, you we let you in, you can be protected by some of these. | ||
| But if you start, you know, saying crazy things or, you know, you start behaving poorly or you're committing fraud, no, no, no, no, you don't get the same protections. | ||
| We can just go in and get you and you got to go because you're not a citizen. | ||
| You're, you, that is part of the gift of being a citizen is that you get to be protected by these things, not just that you're on the land, that you're protected by our constitution and the wonderful things that it ensures. | ||
| Yeah, it's definitely that's part of a lot of the confusion around that is the administrative versus criminal, right? | ||
| Because for administrative, like, okay, well, they don't get uh, they don't get given a um a lawyer or anything like that, right? | ||
| They're not, they're not given that. | ||
| And let's say for like removals or sorry, returns at the southern border, deportations at the border, you basically have zero due process in that case. | ||
| It is an administrative process, you're picked up, you're removed. | ||
| Expedited removal, also less. | ||
| It's not the same thing as comparing an American citizen and a criminal process or even somebody that's an illegal immigrant in a criminal process. | ||
| There is more standards for due process there than the civil process that is an administrative process of just removing an immigration enforcement. | ||
| Yeah, even the administrative process. | ||
| It's a little bit complicated for a lot of people. | ||
| And I think that's why, you know, they make the argument of, oh, it's due process. | ||
| It's like, you don't even know what due process they're not getting that you're mad about. | ||
| I hear all the time on the street that they're upset that they're not being given a taxpayer-funded lawyer. | ||
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| Like, they shouldn't have one. | ||
| I'm sorry, you shouldn't be here. | ||
| You got to go. | ||
| We're not paying for your lawyers. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| They don't get those. | ||
| Yeah, they don't get those. | ||
| We're not doing it. | ||
| We're not going to start now. | ||
| No, you just have to leave. | ||
| You just got to go. | ||
| Even the administrative law judges, they're not actual like lawyers and judges. | ||
| They're like people like me that, you know, I started working with the USCIS and all the other institutions over there. | ||
| And then, like, oh, you talking about the immigration? | ||
| Yeah, you're, you're, you're an appointed administrative law judge, right? | ||
| Like, it's, it's, it's not like an actual legal process. | ||
| It's an administrative one. | ||
| Anyway, hopefully, I mean, like, you know, hopefully over the weekend, things come down and we just start ramping up. | ||
| But, you know, hopefully they do work with the administration. | ||
| But I definitely am a little disappointed in what I'm seeing as they are making concessions. | ||
| I want all of these people out. | ||
| I wanted to swarm Minnesota and get them all out at once. | ||
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| But it's not happening. | ||
| I'm not optimistic at all that leaderships could be like, no, cool. | ||
| We're working with the Trump administration now. | ||
| If any side ever gives in, it's usually the right. | ||
| And the Trump administration, like, we literally can't afford to do that here. | ||
| This is do or die for the country when it comes to survival. | ||
| We can't just let them get away with mass importing without mass exporting. | ||
| We're not going to survive. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, we got to wrap it up. | ||
| Thank you for joining me today. | ||
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| And so you let me know, let them know where they can find you again. | ||
| And hopefully we get to do this again, James. | ||
| It's been a good time. | ||
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