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Arrests At Christian Church 00:07:37
tate brown
What is going on, Patriots?
How's everyone doing today?
Today is Thursday.
Thursday, the 22nd.
Goodness gracious.
We're already like two, three weeks, four weeks into 2026.
It's getting wild.
Anyway, I'm your host, Tate Brown, here, holding it down, just getting into the rhythm here.
Tim's out sick.
That's probably we haven't seen any segments going up today.
So I'm just trying to get into the flow.
Usually I kind of feed off of his energy.
And without that, it's a little hard to get moving.
But we are getting there.
It is Thursday.
It is a wonderful day.
Obviously, taking you into the afternoon of our Rumble Daily lineup.
I am your host, Tate Brown, and we will be getting you into the afternoon here.
We have some major, major stories.
We have the church riot, obviously from Minneapolis over the last weekend.
Arrest has finally been made.
You know, that was kind of the fear a lot of people were blackpilling already.
They were saying, oh, well, this is, you know, just another case of the DOJ making some bold declarations, but not following through.
Well, fair play to the DOJ.
Even myself, I was a little skeptical that anything was really going to happen because, quite frankly, I didn't have much reason to believe that that would be the case.
But this morning, the DOJ did make an arrest and they went for the top dog.
They went after Nakima Armstrong, who was the main organizer of the event.
And Pam Bondi said that there are more arrests to come.
So I believe her.
If there's more arrests to come, she's made one.
So in this instance, I'm going to, you know what?
I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt.
Why not?
That seems like the logical thing to do.
So with that, we're going to get into that.
We also have a tremendous story of a very brave penguin, very moving penguin, the flightless bird in Antarctica.
Kind of unironically, because this clip of this penguin is all over Instagram Reels.
I don't know if you've seen it.
I think it was DHS actually utilized it in a meme yesterday.
But this is more than a meme.
This is something that really communicates something I think everyone is feeling.
And that's why it's actually kind of resonating with, especially the youth, the youth.
You're seeing it all over Instagram Reels, TikTok, these sorts of things.
So we'll watch that video and I'll actually break down why it actually has some tremendous importance to everybody's lives.
I'm not even being facetious here.
I'm very genuine about this.
We have some information, some data, again, dropping on birth rates.
If we have time, we'll get to that.
And then we also have at the half hour mark, Aiden Buzzetti.
It might not be a name that's familiar to too many of you guys in the audience.
He has been on Timcast IRL previously, but he is part of a major lawsuit out of Los Angeles.
This piece came out in the New York Times, sort of breaking the news on this lawsuit.
It's another example of anti-white racism that's been codified into law.
And this lawsuit is seeking to overturn it.
So I'm going to bring him in to really explain what's going on, what the sort of national importance is, the magnitude of it, these sorts of things, and just break down the intricacies of this entire situation.
He's a part of the 1776, the 1776 Project Foundation.
They do a lot of legal work in schools and these things.
So in the education field broadly, so it's going to be fantastic.
We're going to have a chat with him.
He's a great dude.
I think you guys will enjoy that very much.
But before we get into that, well, actually, no, let's just get into it.
Why not?
YOLO.
It's Thursday.
It's the last day of the morning show for a noon live show.
So we're just going to keep moving along here.
So first story.
of the day.
This is from Axios, specifically Axios Twin Cities.
Federal agents arrest activists over church ICE protest.
Federal agents arrested former NAACP Minneapolis chapter leader Nakeema Armstrong and St. Paul school board member Sean Chantal Allen after they protested the church of a pastor who they said runs a local ice field office.
U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi announced, here was the announcement she made.
This was from her official AG Twitter.
Minutes ago at my direction, HSI and FBI agents executed an arrest in Minnesota, Minnesota, Minnesota.
So far, we have arrested Nakeema Armstrong, who allegedly played a key role in organizing the coordinated attack on City's Church, St. Paul, Minnesota.
We will share more updates as they become available.
Listen loud and clear: we do not tolerate attacks on places of worship.
So, again, this is a white pill.
Some people are blackpilling.
They're saying, okay, this is it.
More arrests to come.
Who knows?
This is another statement from Kirsty Noam.
Obviously, this is her official account here, DHS secretary.
She said, Homeland Security investigators and FBI agents arrested Nakema Armstrong, who played a key role in orchestrating the church riots in St. Paul, Minnesota.
She is being charged with a federal crime under 18 U.S.C. 241.
Religious freedom is the bedrock of the United States.
There is no First Amendment right to obstruct someone from practicing their religion.
And this is obviously the U.S. code that she's referring to, conspiracy against rights.
This is what a lot of people, a lot of legal heads, were speculating because right away, when the raid riot, whatever you want to call it, happened, a lot of people immediately pointed to the FACE Act and they were saying, okay, well, they're going to be prosecuted under the FACE Act, which protects religious people during their religious services.
In this instance, obviously it being a Christian service during a Christian at a Christian church.
But from what I had heard from a lot of legal experts, they were all saying the FACE Act might not be the move.
Apparently, it takes quite a bit of legwork to really put together a case to prosecute under the FACE Act.
This is the law that began being cited as this would be the slam dunk, which was 18 U.S. Code 241, Conspiracy Against Rights.
Effectively, here it says here, actually, two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in the state, territory, Commonwealth possession, or district in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States or because of his having so exercised the same.
All this to say, if you're impeding someone's First Amendment rights, that is a violation of 18 U.S. Code 241.
So that is exactly what happened.
These people were just trying to exercise their First Amendment rights to worship, to partake in a religious service, and these people impeded on it.
Therefore, this is a slam dunk.
This is easy money, so to speak.
So with that, let me lock in.
Hang on one second.
There we go.
Sorry, I should have to get a quick lock-in sesh.
I had to get a little bit of coffee down hatch.
I'm a little slow today.
I don't know if you guys have noticed.
We're getting there.
You know, we're moving on.
Once I see the penguin video, I'll really get fired up.
It's going to be absolutely unreal.
But yeah, all this to say, you know, a lot of people are blackpilling already.
They're saying, okay, well, Pam Bonnie's come out and said more arrests to come, these sorts of things.
And I get it.
Actually, I get it.
You know, I've been a, I still am, a vocal defender of the Trump administration.
I'm very adamant that this is the most viable political vehicle of our lifetimes, certainly thus far.
Um, even for people that are a little older than me, I mean, we really haven't had this much potential in a political project, a political movement in a very, very long time, probably since the war.
Um, it's really, as Oron made the point on the show, Oren McIntyre, he says, look, it's really his acolytes, his apparatchiks that seemingly hamstring the administration at times, um, because there's only so much the president can do.
Penguin's Biological Desire 00:08:54
tate brown
Tim's made the point multiple times that like the obvious purview is foreign policy, war, um, these sorts of things.
You know, what the DOJ is up to, that shouldn't really fall on the desk of the president.
But in this case, it just happens to, um, because of the nature of how all these Trump allies have come in.
So, it really does feel like one united front in many ways.
There we go, to get a little toga down the hatch.
We're uh, we're cooking here, but um, yes, so Trump administration, where was I?
Um, I don't even remember.
Let's just talk about the penguin, dude.
Screw this, honestly.
Everyone knows, dude.
Everyone, like, I think we're all getting a little tired of all of this.
Like, we really need to see some action.
We need to see like something decisive.
Like, it's sick.
There's four shows that came before me that talked about the exact same story, and they probably did it much better than I did.
So, like, what are we doing here?
And you're going to get four more shows after this that do this.
How many people are going to talk about this penguin?
This is really of vital importance here.
I'm locked in.
I'm fired up.
This is what it is all about, ladies and gentlemen.
This is really this, this single video, I think, is the most right-wing piece of art produced, perhaps in the last 50 to 60 years.
I really think this is something tremendous.
When this hit the timeline, this changed everything for me because I've never related to a bird more in my life.
I mean, the bald eagle is a quite relatable bird.
He's very stoic.
Again, it's this sort of symbol of patriotism, the symbol of American ingenuity, imperialism, liberty, freedom, etc.
A penguin on the other side of the world, in Antarctica, like you could be looking at that and you say, How could this penguin possibly have any insight into my inner psyche?
How could this penguin possibly reflect the inner tension that I felt in my life thus far, being a modern man, according to Fukuyama, the last man?
What is going on here?
Well, watch this video, and you may be watching this on stream and you say, I wanted to hear about Bondi.
I wanted to hear about Greenland.
Do you really this is this takes precedent, quite frankly?
You know, again, there's a million shows that will tell you all about this.
Take a look at this video.
Take a look.
Unbelievable.
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But one of them caught our eye, the one in the center.
tate brown
This is from a 2007 documentary.
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He would neither go towards the feeding grounds at the edge of the ice, nor return to the colony.
Shortly afterwards, we saw him heading straight towards the mountains, some 70 kilometers away.
Dr. Ainley explained that even if he caught him and brought him back to the colony, he would immediately head right back for the mountains.
Yes.
But why?
tate brown
narrator, but why?
That's the question he asks.
Why would this penguin seemingly commit suicide?
Because that's really what's going on.
If you're looking at this from a purely biological point of view, again, you have this huddled mass of penguins, right?
This cluster of penguins just beak to beak, just trudging on, just waiting for their daily allotment of krill to throw down the hatch.
And they're basically just their entire purpose.
There's not even any national, they don't even have any natural predators.
I mean, they have like what, walruses or seals or whatever.
It's not even that big of a deal.
Really are just insulated.
They exist purely to procreate.
That is the entire purpose of penguins.
There's nothing deeper.
There is nothing meaningful.
That is the express purpose of being a penguin.
You stay in the mass, beak to beak, waiting for your daily krill slop.
That's quite frankly all that really there is to being a penguin.
And this single penguin, he's like, enough of this.
I can't handle this anymore.
There's something firing in his little tiny penguin brain, just this little, this little kernel of vitality that is still firing, that's buried deep, deep, deep inside of his sort of genetic code.
Because, you know, thousands, if you're depending on who you ask, millions of years of evolution has led to this penguin being just another cog in this mass of other penguins.
He's just penguin number 350,422.
And for another 10,000 years, those penguins in that huddle will be doing the same thing, trying to stay alive, you know, eating enough krill just to stay alive.
Hopefully they can procreate.
That would be great.
Hopefully I, you know, get to sit on an egg.
And Happy Feet doesn't do a good job really analyzing how dull and mundane the penguin's life is.
And this single penguin, something inside of him, he's not even thinking.
He's just, he's not even retard maxing.
He's not even, he's just doing.
He's just, there's something in his soul, something in his gut that's saying, that mountain, go towards that mountain.
And this picture right here, this might be the single most powerful image on planet Earth.
It's this single penguin just trudging onto this mountain.
And this is what I'm going to leave it up actually because I think this is really important stuff.
This is, this is what it's all about, ladies and gentlemen.
This isn't just, this isn't confined to the penguin world, right?
Okay, you may be watching this documentary and say, okay, you know, this penguin, there's just something wrong with him.
And that's why he's going up onto this mountain where his lungs will surely freeze and he'll perish.
But this single penguin in this single instance, this single decision has felt more life, more vitality than 10,000 years of those penguins would ever feel, just stuck in that huddled mass, just hoping to survive.
He broke out of it.
And this is why everyone's relating to it.
This is why everyone's feeling the same way because this is what modernity really is.
This is really the condition of the modern man is we're just in a mass of people.
I hate to go all like, you know, LARP like it's, you know, what was, what's the fight club?
You know, everyone started LARPing really hard after Fight Club came out and they were like, oh, that's so me.
That's so relatable.
But there's something to be said that these movies keep coming out.
Like Blade Runner 2049 or Drive with Ryan Gosling.
And young men keep finding themselves relating to these characters.
And what is it about these characters?
They're kind of outsiders.
They're kind of freaks in a way.
But it makes them unique.
It makes them feel like they're alive.
And I think that's the number one condition of people right now is they don't feel alive.
They're doing everything right.
They're doing everything by the book.
They're following their biological impulses, but they don't feel alive.
What happens when you override your biological impulse?
For this penguin, he just chases this mountain.
Even as he's suffering on this mountain, you know, again, his lungs are freezing.
His little flippers are frozen shut and he just slowly perishes.
He is experiencing more life than, again, thousands of years of that penguin colony's existence combined would ever feel.
And so for human beings, it's kind of the same thing because when you think about the modern world, it's just suffocating.
It really is just suffocating.
I can't bear it.
I mean, it's just monotony.
There's no life to anything.
There's no color.
There's no vibrancy.
If you just do everything by the book, again, out of this sort of post-war liberal consensus.
And then at least penguins have, you know, they have the availability to like procreate.
That is their one purpose.
But even as humans, as we've been reduced down to just fulfilling our biological purposes, now men and women are even struggling to have children.
They can't even find each other.
And it's just increasingly, you're just getting this sense of despair among the masses, among the population.
That's part of the reason why politics has become such a lifeline for people, because it makes them feel like they're a part of something bigger than themselves.
It makes them feel like they're contributing to something that will outlive them.
It makes them feel like their life isn't as dull and monotonous as it really is.
It's almost a distraction.
That's why people on the left specifically are grasping to these radical ideologies because it just gives them some sort of spark, even if it's ridiculous, even if it's delusional.
It still provides a spark.
But that's what everyone's looking for in modern life.
And it's everywhere you look.
Everywhere you look in life in 2026 specifically is designed to just break you.
It's designed to break your human spirit and turn you into just a number, just into a biological organism, not a person with a name and a soul and a conscience and a desire and dreams.
Everything Is Artificial 00:06:32
tate brown
It's just designed to fulfill your biological desires.
That's what DoorDash is.
That's what Tinder is.
That's honestly what LinkedIn is.
I mean, LinkedIn is just meant to facilitate you to get from one salary to the other.
So again, you can put your food on the get food on the table.
It's absolutely brutal.
And everywhere you go, everything is just fake.
I mean, Tucker Carlson made this point.
When you go to the DMV, which is the DMV is really the only touch point that you're going to get between the government and the United States on a fairly regular basis.
Again, that is one of the few government institutions that we have to participate in to really exist.
You know, you got to get a driver's license or register your car.
The DMV really exemplifies how the modern elite feel about the population.
Drop ceiling.
Who knows what on earth drop ceilings are made of?
I don't know.
Maybe if you're a contractor, you can explain.
I assume it's a bunch of chemicals.
I assume it's a bunch of synthetic elements.
I don't think we're using thatched roofs anymore last time I checked.
The walls are sheetrock.
Again, who knows where sheetrock comes from?
Again, maybe if you're in the business, you know, but like it's still a bunch of just artificial ingredients.
They don't, sheetrock doesn't occur in nature, right?
This is not something you would interact with in nature.
The floor is laminate tile.
Who knows where laminate comes?
It's artificial.
Everything around you is artificial.
You go, you get up to your desk so you can try and beg this employee who's checked out and an idiot.
You have to beg them because there's like 30 different pieces of paperwork that you're supposed to provide.
You know, you got to bring your birth certificate.
You got to bring, you know, a set of keys, another set of keys for your car.
You got to bring like an original copy of the Magna Carta just to get your car registered.
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True.
tate brown
Or heaven forbid you want to change the address on your license.
I mean, you might as well, you might as well kill yourself.
Like at that point, it's over for you.
If you want to change the, you want to change the address on your license, unbelievable.
It's like, okay, you can't drive until you have your updated license, but we also need like 13 water bills and like 20 electric goals.
How is that possible?
I just moved here.
That's why I'm changing my, that's why I'm changing my address.
It's just like torture.
And that's what they want to do.
They just want to torture you and break you down and just turn you into, again, just a, an organism.
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Yeah.
tate brown
That's why everything's artificial.
If, if they cared about you, if they cared about your soul, if they cared about your dignity as a human being, you would see elements in this in this DMV, like stone, like wood.
You would have wood flooring.
You would have stone walls.
You know, there would be plants around.
The speakers wouldn't be this frequency that wants you to make sure you rip your hair out.
Like it would be, it would be nice and it would be a reminder of the outside.
It would be a reminder that you are a human being, that you are a part of nature.
And that, again, you, you are, you know, your, your image is inspired by the divine.
You would have this reminder, but instead, they just want to break you down.
That's the intention.
It's all just, it's just, that's, that's what it is.
That's all, that's all modern life is.
It's just meant to completely break you down, but it's meant to provide you with enough dopamine to get you over the hump.
Enough dopamine to get you day by day.
That's, it's at every, it's at every drop.
Again, I go back to it.
I mean, that's what like DoorDash.
DoorDash, if you explained to someone in 1940 what DoorDash was, I mean, 1930, they would just insist on undoing industrialization and just going back to like being primitive.
They would just throw the loin cloth back on.
You know, they'd start banging rocks together again, you know, dancing around a fire or whatever.
Because if they just, just the idea of DoorDash just really epitomizes everything that's wrong with society.
And I've used DoorDash before because I'm a modern man.
And it really is this horrible, horrible, pernicious thing where it's like, look, you can't, we're, we're just so defeated and whatever that we don't even have time to sit down at a table and prepare a meal.
Or better yet, we don't have the bandwidth to prepare a meal in the kitchen with ingredients that we know what they are.
We acquired them ourselves, put that together, assemble it on a plate, sit it on a table, sit down, have the meal.
We don't even have the bandwidth to do that anymore for a variety of reasons, whether it's a time constriction, energy, whatever.
So then we DoorDash it.
We have a building that's heaven knows where.
Because every time you order off a DoorDash, it never orders from your local.
Like if you order McDonald's, right, off a DoorDash, it never does it from the one closest to you.
When you order, it does it from the one across town.
I don't know why it does that, but you know what I'm talking about.
I know you know exactly what I'm talking about.
So it's coming from a building.
You don't know who built that building, who's responsible, who owns it, who works there.
You don't know what any of it is.
And they're wrapping together these synthetic ingredients from, again, heaven knows where into a paper, just wrapping it up with paper, shoving it in a paper bag, handing it to like an illegal immigrant who then gets on a bike, comes to your house.
You just gave an illegal immigrant your address.
And then he puts it on your door and you do your very best.
You do whatever it takes to not even speak to this person.
Because again, for whatever reason, you don't even have the bandwidth to interact with a stranger.
And you pick the food up and you, Zorhan Mamdani got so much flack for eating with his hands.
We do that every day.
We eat the slop out of paper wrappers and shovel it down our mouths.
And then you tip $3 to an illegal immigrant who's like, you know, stealing the inheritance from your children, which you won't even have because you didn't subscribe to Tinder Premium.
You know, you would have gotten some matches if you would have just swiped a little more.
You know, that's what it comes down to.
If you would have just, if you would have had a little bit better pictures on Hinge, you know, maybe you would have a wife that would make you a meal instead of having to DoorDash Popeyes at 11 p.m. and an illegal immigrant from the Philippines brings it to you.
So it's just really a disaster.
And that's what that penguin experienced.
That's what that penguin, he's, that penguin that is trudging towards that mountain is feeling the exact same thing I am.
He's saying, I am sick of just eating krill every day and just trying to survive beak to beak with all these other penguins and my life will mean nothing ultimately.
Feeling the Drive Within 00:06:02
tate brown
And he just trudges towards that mountain.
He trudges towards something that he can't explain because he's a penguin.
He can't explain anything anyway.
But he can't explain it.
He can't, he can't explain.
He can't conceptualize.
He can't intellectualize his desire.
just knows he has to trudge towards that mountain.
And it really is a tremendous thing.
And it goes back to human beings.
It's like, we're all feeling this.
We're all experiencing this.
That's why we're engaged with politics because we're all on the right, at least, we understand that we're in a mess.
It needs to be fixed.
It needs to be mopped up.
So we're going to support politicians that we feel like are the most viable engine to get us out of this mess to make us feel alive again.
And I mean, there's just a variety of ways.
I mean, not to go back on that tangent.
I mean, have you seen the depression rates in the United States?
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It's crazy.
tate brown
Have you seen the depression rates?
Have you seen the prescription rates?
I mean, take a look at SSRIs.
People are popping them like Tic Tacs.
I mean, it's a complete dystopia.
I mean, if you ask someone in the 1950s what was going on today, they would think that, you know, we're always like, oh, you know, there's this dystopian future, this 1984 future or whatever.
You show today's world to someone in 1950 and they would be like, oh, that's the dystopian future.
That's exactly what it is.
Nothing about America resembles the 1950s in any meaningful way at all.
It's just, there's nothing.
There's no vitality.
There's no nothing.
So young men specifically, young men are the ones ultimately that accomplish these great feats that just defy all odds.
And at times it appears to be a death wish, right?
It appears to be like a penguin trudging towards a mountain.
And young men have been completely stripped of that.
Some of that is their own fault.
I'll be the first to admit that.
Some of that is young men just tapping.
They just play video games all day.
That's true.
Just like literally, so many guys I know that their daily routine is, you know, work, just try to get through work.
They have an AirPod in the whole time, listening to monotonous music that just really just destroys and corrodes the soul.
And then they get home and they just get like baked.
They just smoke a bunch of weed or drink like an insane amount of alcohol every night and they play video games or they maybe sports bed if they're really ambitious.
That is the reality of like what young men are going through.
100 years ago, that was not the case.
100 years ago, young guys had stuff going on.
Not every single one of them was like this great explorer, but they all had something going on.
They all resembled, they all exemplified vitality.
They all exemplified a human being that is afraid of God.
And I think that's ultimately what's going on here.
Is I think with modernity, with the modern world, with again, this consensus that exists today, it's ultimately trying to sever young men from the fear of God.
They don't fear God anymore.
They don't fear what they're, they don't fear what happens if they don't hold up their end of the bargain of being a human being.
They don't fear the consequences of living an inconsequential life.
They don't.
They just, again, are addicted to the dopamine.
I mean, that's every single app on planet Earth, every single institution now has been oriented around providing maximum dopamine, providing maximum comfort, providing the least amount of resistance to a human being as possible.
That's what it is.
And so what it takes for someone to be like this penguin in 2026 is an unbelievable amount of willpower, a strong sense of self-awareness, a strong sense of where you fit in this cosmic system or where you don't fit.
And it takes, ultimately, you need to be a little bullheaded.
You really do.
You need to have a little ego.
That's as a young guy, maybe you should.
Maybe you should have.
Maybe not a chip on your shoulder, but you should certainly feel like the world owes you something.
That's a healthy impulse.
You should be like, no, I don't want to be a part of the penguin group.
I want to trudge towards that mountain.
I want to see what's up there.
I don't know what's up there.
There's no penguins.
They don't have phones.
They can't look up what's up there.
I'm going to go see for myself.
I would rather this penguin and a lot of young men I know that are watching this feel the same thing as this penguin, which was, I would rather die than live scared.
I would rather die standing than live on my knees.
I would rather die chasing greatness than live being a bugman, you know, being an insect.
And there's some reality.
And this isn't to say that everyone is an insect, but it is to say that we're living like it.
I don't think there's any question about it.
I think everyone in the audience kind of knows what I'm talking about.
It's just, it's just, that's why this video is so powerful.
It really is what it is.
That's why this video is going everywhere.
Everyone on Instagram is sharing it.
It's waking up this biological drive within people that I need to be doing something.
And I can just do things.
That's the most powerful sentence I think ever uttered in the English language is you can just do things.
You can.
You can just push.
If you don't feel any discomfort, if you don't feel any pain, that means you're not pushing towards anything.
If you're pushing towards something, you should feel pain.
It should hurt.
You should want to cry, uncle.
You should want to quit.
That's what it means to grow.
That's what it means to do something.
That's what it means to accomplish.
It means you have to fight.
And the modern man is so risk averse, is so averse to pain that anytime they feel it, because society has child-proofed everything, you know, they've put those little things in the plugs.
Control Your Crypto! 00:03:51
tate brown
They've child-proofed everything that when you feel pain, you're conditioned to believe something must be wrong.
Something must be off.
You know, this can't be natural.
This can't be what I'm supposed to be doing because I'm feeling pain.
I'm feeling discomfort.
I should be comfortable because everything around me, the entire apparatus around me is oriented towards providing me comfort.
So anytime I feel discomfort, that must mean something is wrong.
Something is off.
Your alarm bells start going off.
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So with this, we're going to get into our interview here with the great Aiden Buzzetti.
Let's see if we can get this fired up.
Hey, Aiden, can you hear me?
Oh, let me see.
Hang on.
I got to make one addition.
Ah, audio source is not set up.
unidentified
Boom.
tate brown
There we go.
Hey, Aiden, can you hear me?
aiden buzzetti
Yeah, I can hear you.
unidentified
How are you?
tate brown
Dude, what is going on, Patriots?
Good to see you.
I don't think the audience knows.
Me and Aiden were like buddies.
He's a total patriot.
I love Aiden to death.
He's a fantastic dude.
But no freebies.
This isn't a charity.
You've done some excellent work over the last few months.
Funding Crisis in Desegregated Schools 00:15:23
tate brown
You've always done excellent work.
But really recently, I mean, there's been some tremendous stuff coming out of the 1776 project.
This hit the New York Times page, the pages of the New York Times recently.
Obviously, a lawsuit in Los Angeles.
You're part of the organization that's lodged this lawsuit.
Can you maybe explain the situation to the people at home, what is going on?
I touched on it at the beginning of the show, but you could probably flush out the details.
aiden buzzetti
Yeah, so basically the 1776 Project Foundation, we're a nationwide organization that is really working to revitalize public education on multiple fronts.
I mean, by and large, our public school system is going down the drain.
And it has been pre-COVID, is accelerated post-COVID.
But we had a few members in LA, subject to the Los Angeles Unified School District.
They have their kids in public schools there.
And we basically found out that they have been running a program in the school district that penalizes schools for having a specific percentage of white and Middle Eastern students.
Basically, if you are in a public school and that school has a student population that is more than 30% white, they lose funding.
They lose opportunities to have more parent-teacher conferences.
There's a magnet school application system in LA where students get points.
So they don't get points if they attend those schools.
So we have a plaintiff, a member of our organization that is affected by this, right?
And this policy has been in place for almost 40 years, actually just over 40 years.
It's the result of a desegregation lawsuit from the 1960s.
And so when we spoke to the New York Times, and I lay this all out, and it is in our full complaint, which you can find on our website, foundation1776.org.
Basically in the 60s, by the time the case was decided in 1981, the judge said in his decision that the circumstances of the original lawsuit from 20 years prior were no longer relevant.
In that 20-year period, the LA district went from majority white to majority non-white.
Despite that, despite the circumstances being completely different and the demographics being completely different, he said, we need a resolution and here's what the school district needs to do.
And he did something, you know, basically, it was very simple where the majority or the minority schools had a set parent-teacher or a teacher-student ratio in the schools.
It was no, it should be no higher than 27 students to one teacher in the classroom.
That was the main requirement that the school district had to follow as a result of this.
Over the last 40 years, they've expanded that.
So, not only do the minority schools have around that student-teacher ratio from the original order, they made it so that if you're 30% white or more as a school, you have a higher ratio.
So, they added a discriminatory, like a negative impact for the schools based on the racial makeup of the student population, in addition to not providing funding for administrators and teachers and things like that.
And if you look at the complaints, and I had a little bit of free time, so I was reading comments on Facebook, right, and reading comments in the newspapers and people were freaking out.
I know, it really is mind-blowing how just the slight alterations in reporting can make people so angry, right?
tate brown
Right.
aiden buzzetti
Because this is, they framed it as something that conservative groups are trying to do to undo desegregation efforts.
This is not related to desegregation.
This is related to a program that is blatantly discriminatory against students based on their race.
It is illegal, full stop.
Right.
And I made this point to reporters that we spoke to.
The schools only have to be 31% white to have these things stripped away from them.
That means that these schools are still most of the time majority non-white.
So you're basically taking these benefits away also from the minority students in those schools.
If it truly was an equal system, like these people that claim we're trying to re-segregate America or whatever ridiculous claim they're doing, it's actually to the benefit of many of these students that we equalize the system here.
tate brown
Sure.
aiden buzzetti
But they don't care about that.
It's just the headlines.
But we are suing the school district in federal court right now to make sure that this program stops.
They want a permanent injunction on this program on their ability to assign benefits and favors to schools based on racial makeup.
tate brown
I see.
I mean, this is really just, this is like the type of thing you hear coming out of like South Africa.
I mean, it's absolutely insane what's going on.
There's something to be said about the fact that you guys are just simply pointing out, hey, this is a discriminatory policy against white people and they lambast you.
This must be some sort of partisan decision rather than just like something very obvious.
What's going on on the legal side?
What is the reaction to this in Los Angeles from, again, like local teachers' unions and these sorts of things?
Have they sort of voiced their side?
What side are they falling on?
aiden buzzetti
Well, it's interesting you say that because right now the school district is facing a huge strike from the teachers unions.
So they're dealing with a lot of problems.
The district there is about to go insolvent.
They're having a lot of financial difficulties, kind of across the board.
That place is a mess right now.
What I can say is we feel very, very confident in our case.
Our plaintiff has standing and they have been fantastic.
Our legal team is fantastic.
And if you look at our complaint, we're suing under three things, right?
We have the 14th Amendment, the Equal Protection Clause of the U.S. Constitution.
The California Constitution, too, also has something similar.
And then also the Civil Rights Act, because they do receive federal funding, they are subject to these laws.
And on those three things, we think there's a really strong case for the federal court system to come in and put an injunction on these programs.
If you look at the only reason why this program is still here is because nobody has thought to challenge it.
Most of the people that we have spoken with actually in LA and around LA, they had no idea this was happening.
Wow.
It is so under the rate.
Well, it's not even under the radar.
The district has it on their website.
They openly brag about it.
They openly promote it, but nobody paid attention.
And as recently as 2017, we have had school district or schools in that district lose funding.
There's actually an old news clip that we'll be sharing, I think, today or tomorrow from local LA stations talking about how a school is losing funding because the school is too white.
This is not an unknown thing.
It is not, you know, it didn't just happen 30 years ago and the people forgot about it.
This is an ongoing decision from the district to keep it in place.
And we're going to be able to put a stop to it forever.
tate brown
Well, so, I mean, obviously you're with the 1776 project.
You guys are doing great work.
Do you see sort of similar arrangements like this around the country or is this an outlier?
Or is there maybe something in between?
Like maybe this is the most egregious case.
What has been your analysis on like the education system in America with these sorts of policies?
aiden buzzetti
So two things can be true.
One, LA, LA in particular is a very unique case where we know that they have a history of other race-based programs that they've had to adjust in the last few years.
This in particular is unique because we know they publicly said that it affects their funding decisions.
There are many other school districts in the United States that are currently under desegregation orders.
I wouldn't be able to speak to specifics on those.
I don't quite know how they're set up, but we do know that in LA in particular, this court order is not, we don't think it holds up to current Supreme Court precedent.
So that's what makes this particular case unique.
The other ones, I mean, I'm sure that there are similar programs out there.
This one is just so blatant.
We're hoping that a victory on this front will send a message to other school districts across the country that they should be evaluating how exactly these policies are implemented in the modern day.
Because there's something from the Students for Fair Admissions Supreme Court case that says racially discriminatory programs imposed by the federal government have to be, they have to withstand strict scrutiny, which means that there should be a very narrow set of conditions with which those policies are created and their existence.
40 years is not a narrow program, right?
This has been in place for two or three generations before students in this district now were even alive.
So for those reasons, we think that there's a really good case.
For other ones, I wouldn't be able to say for sure.
But if we're able to get a good decision on this, I do think it will make some school districts rethink how they're evaluating and implementing certain programs.
tate brown
I mean, because this is really, you know, going nationwide sort of in between states, this is really what you're seeing is policies that were implemented 60 years ago where the left has just completely reimagined what these policies are for.
And I mean, some people debate even if the original policies were productive in the first place, but you're seeing now the left in the modern day weaponizing them purely for modern political goals.
And that's what makes this example so egregious.
Because I mean, I don't even think they're arguing that this is about desegregation anymore.
I mean, correct me if I'm wrong.
This really does seem like there's a degree of just like vengeance going on here.
And that's what makes this example seemingly so striking.
aiden buzzetti
It certainly is a corrupted version of the decision, right?
I mean, when we think, whatever your opinions on many of those policies of that era, they should not be in existence now.
By and large, especially in this district, the circumstances with which desegregation decisions were made and these policy decisions were made are completely different from 50, 60, 70 years ago.
And we should not keep policies in place just because they were good 50 years ago, right?
This is part of active governance.
We need to make sure that students are being afforded the resources they need now and that they're not being actively harmed.
And we know that things like smaller class sizes help students perform better in an academic setting.
And if they're making those decisions on funding and class sizes based on race, what we know about the law now says it is completely illegal to do that.
It doesn't matter if you're discriminating against somebody because they're black or they're white or they're Hispanic.
If you're racially discriminated against people, full stop, it is illegal.
It should be written out of existence.
It should not be implemented as a policy decision at all.
tate brown
Absolutely.
So what does this look like for the students that are in these schools that are, again, being punished purely for being too white, even if it's 30%, it's still too white?
What is that day-to-day experience like for a kid in that school versus a school that's not getting hit with these discriminatory policies?
aiden buzzetti
I mean, if you look at that 2017 local news video, they actually interviewed many of the students there, some of whom were white, and they were talking about, yeah, they're reassigning my teachers.
I've been with these teachers for years.
I don't have that relationship with them anymore.
I have more kids in my classroom.
These are real harms.
They're losing out on an educational experience and people that they know and they have worked with.
Relationships with teachers in the classroom is they're extremely important.
And if you're just wresting those decisions away, if you're moving to a middle school and you have a teacher for a year or two years, and then suddenly they're gone the next year, that is a huge life impact for these kids.
tate brown
Yeah.
Are you seeing worse performance from these kids as they move into college?
I mean, is that something that's happening?
I mean, I would imagine so, but I mean, this is seemingly directly impacting these students.
aiden buzzetti
I mean, my answer would be yes.
I mean, most likely, because again, we know that smaller class sizes do correlate with a stronger academic performance.
With the caveat, of course, that grades and academic performance across the country right now are terrible, right?
I mean, many of the fourth graders, I think 30, 40% of fourth graders in the U.S. cannot read or do math at grade level.
Like this is approaching crisis-level stuff.
So why would we make illegal racial decisions when so many school districts, including Los Angeles, are struggling on a number of different issues?
It is a complete, it is a mind-boggling thing to experience for many of these parents that I've been speaking to.
And it really just shows that many of these school districts are not governed appropriately and they don't have the best interests of students or their communities at heart at all.
tate brown
What percentage of this incompetency that we're seeing in these school districts is just people at the sleep at the wheel versus actual ideologues that are maybe trying to push sort of a leftist ideology and then it obviously results in destruction?
Is it a little bit of both?
Maybe one or the other?
aiden buzzetti
I mean, I would say a lot of the ideologues, a lot of the ideology that drives these decisions are not always from the school board members.
Is from the administrators and the teachers' unions.
They have been, by and large, the biggest force to push many of these policies.
With that said, part of our work is encouraging school board members to have a backbone, right?
If you get elected on your school board, most of the people I've worked with, they're parents, they're grandparents, they're normal people, they're not politicians, they're not used to death threats from activists, they're not used to being harassed.
And so, what we're able to do is build a resource library, build a community of people who are like-minded, that want to invest their time to actually turning things around.
Fighting Educational Rot 00:11:40
aiden buzzetti
That community makes all the difference because if you don't have one, you will get pressured.
The teachers' unions will come after you, you will get harassed, they will wear people down if you're not actively supporting their agenda.
And that's just how it is, and that's something that we want to stop.
tate brown
Maybe we can outline, like, I guess, because I think a lot of people are sensing this rot in the education system, even if they don't see specific instances like yours.
I think everyone is sort of sensing it.
Not to go back too far in time, but I mean, following the assassination of Charlie Kirk, we saw so many teachers coming out and like basically celebrating it, or at least, you know, voicing indiscreet support for it.
Can you maybe, because I wanted to touch on this earlier in the year or in the previous year.
Can you maybe outline some of the work you guys did on that and how you're seeing that tie into like against some of this institutional corruptness with these teachers' unions and that sort of thing?
aiden buzzetti
Yeah, I was in contact with many school board members who were dealing with many of those crises, right?
People, teachers were exposing themselves left and right with very, very vile opinions.
And what these board members had to do was honestly, in some cases, fight against their own administrators and say, we need to hold this person accountable to set an example for the community, right?
And in many of these places, at least 50% of the community, if not more, are conservatives.
They're Republicans.
And we have people in charge of educating their kids for eight hours a day, saying that somebody deserved to get killed because of something that they said.
That's unacceptable.
And many of these school board members, they did end up punishing teachers.
Some did get fired.
Some were punished in other ways.
But again, it was the same thing.
The teachers' unions, the superintendents, the administrators, they defend their own.
They want to brush things to the side.
They say, oh, people will forget in a few weeks, but people don't forget because that was such a violent example of the worst in American politics, of the worst impulses of people.
You can't allow that to be promoted in the classroom.
Teachers are representative of the school district.
They are representative of the community.
They have a very important role in educating the future of Americans and our citizens and our republic.
They should not be allowed to share those values with such vile hatred when you're in charge of students in our future.
And many of the board members that we worked with were very, very concerned about that, and they were able to set an example.
But I will say that in some cases, the pressure from the unions was so great that they had to settle with deals.
Maybe the teachers were suspended for a little bit and they weren't able to fire them.
And that honestly comes down to just procedural knowledge.
How do you outmaneuver teachers' unions?
How do you hold people accountable when they have every institutional backing possible to prevent that from happening?
tate brown
I mean, that's when it really exemplified how bad things had gotten because you would see like on Twitter or Facebook or whatever, you would see a teacher with their full government name.
So you're like, oh, yeah, come in.
And you're like, okay, surely this is a teacher in like Berkeley or Portland, Oregon or something.
And it'd be like, no, it's in like Topeka, Kansas.
And you're just sitting there like, is this really how bad things have gotten?
This isn't a resigned to blue states.
Like these teachers unions specifically are corrupted everywhere.
Like no one, it's not like it's not necessarily packed into one place.
It's everywhere.
It's in red states, blue states, everywhere in between.
I mean, is that what you guys are seeing?
I mean, you've been touching on it already, but I mean, like, I guess my question would be: can these public school systems even really be safe?
Because I think that's the question a lot of people in the audience are asking: is they see, again, teachers in Topeka, just, you know, it's a random city I'm picking, but a very red place celebrating.
And they may just be thinking, like, what's even the point of trying to like resurrect public schools at this point?
You're seeing a big push towards private schools, homeschooling, these sorts of things.
I mean, what is the pathway to victory?
What's the victory condition here?
aiden buzzetti
What I'll say to that is: you know, public education has its issues.
Full stop.
I mean, there are issues.
There are a lot of problems to solve.
And the nature of the public school system in America.
I mean, there are 13,000 separate school districts.
There are over 100,000 elected school board members.
Not every single person is going to be the best, right?
But public schools teach 80% of students in America.
We're talking over 60 million students.
If you give up that ground to the left, if you don't even try, you are fighting a losing battle from day one.
What we're able to do working with school board members is implement basic standards, right?
This is not about, we are against ideology and education across the board.
The policies that we've been able to help school members do, you know, is flying only the American flag and the state flag.
tate brown
Wi-Fi.
unidentified
Wi-Fi.
Yeah.
tate brown
Oh, I think we lost him.
unidentified
Oh, no.
tate brown
The teachers' unions have struck.
The teachers unions have struck.
unidentified
Well, it's that Wi-Fi, bro.
tate brown
I'll stay in here.
Maybe we'll get him back.
unidentified
Yeah, we'll get him back.
tate brown
We'll get him back.
I mean, we'll for sure have him back.
There's no question about that.
Aiden's a great guy.
That's a shame.
I mean, we're winding down a little bit.
unidentified
Just leave it open.
tate brown
Yeah, I'm going to leave it open.
See if we get him back.
If he rejoins or something like that.
unidentified
We'll hear him actually if he rejoins.
tate brown
We'll hear him from the void calling out Los Angeles school board.
How dare you?
Like a little Thunberg moment.
Just in case we don't get him back, you guys got to go follow him.
Aiden Buzzetti, absolute legend.
He's doing fantastic work.
And more importantly, than Aiden, because it's Aiden, follow the 1776 Project Foundation.
They're doing excellent work.
Keep up with them.
I can't, you know, give you guys what his prescription would have been per se if you want to get involved in trying to mop up this mess, so to speak, in the public school system.
But one thing I can say is that school boards, those are elected positions.
You can run for them if you don't want to, which a lot of people aren't in the position to.
You can keep tabs on them, right?
You can hold these people accountable.
You can vote them out.
You have a lot of options, a lot of plays you can make.
Aiden's back.
Dude, you can't, you know what it is?
You can't kill a bullmoose.
That's what it is.
unidentified
You can't.
aiden buzzetti
You cannot.
It's impossible.
tate brown
Well, I wanted to ask you.
It's so true.
I wanted to ask you.
It's like hidden under the thing.
It's whatever.
Well, I wanted to ask you, while we still got you, we still got some time left in the show.
What would be your prescription for people at home that are watching that may be thinking, like, what can I do?
Because you guys are doing fantastic work, but what is the ground level prescription that you would give to people watching in the audience of how they can get involved, how they can be a part of the solution for the public school system?
aiden buzzetti
I mean, look, step one is go to your school board meetings.
They're open to the public.
Basically, nobody shows up except left-wing activists.
So, if you care about an issue that your school is dealing with, and you should get just a group of four or five people to come with you.
It's simple as that.
Second set would be run for school board.
Most of these races, they cost less than $1,000.
There's maybe a couple thousand voters maximum.
You have high leverage, right?
School board member.
You're setting tax rates.
You're setting curriculum.
You're negotiating with the unions.
This is a very, very important position that nobody thinks about.
So you should definitely consider doing it if you have the time and the knowledge, or not even the knowledge.
You don't need to know how exactly the public education system works.
If you're a parent and you have kids in the schools, you should be running because that way you will be able to hold teachers accountable.
tate brown
Absolutely.
Well, Aiden, thank you very much for wrapping on.
What is kind of your final message?
What should people be on the lookout in regards with this Los Angeles school board situation?
What does the Timcast audience need to pay close attention to going forward?
aiden buzzetti
I'm looking.
Follow us on our social media and go to our website, foundation1776.org.
We're going to be fighting this lawsuit as far as we can go.
We think there's a very, very strong case to get an injunction on here.
And we will be sharing updates very, very soon on this initial phase of the trial.
Our next step really is to go to Discovery.
And we think we're going to find some really interesting stuff that the Timcast audience will love.
tate brown
We love it, dude.
We'll have to bring it back on once we get to that stage because this is, again, this is, I mean, this is a case that has national importance.
Like you said, I mean, this is really, yes, it's about Los Angeles, but it's going to send a message to a lot of these deep blue school boards all across the country or teacher unions, et cetera.
So thank you very much for hopping on, Aiden.
We will catch you next time.
Thanks for fighting through, fighting through the internet issues.
Total patriot.
This is why you are part of the Bull Moose Project as well, because this really is Bull Moose mentality.
Also, I'm going to ask you, why you still have you?
Because we have some time.
What did you think about?
You've seen the Penguin video, right?
The Penguin trudging towards the mountain.
Dude, can you give me the quick rundown on what your thoughts were?
Because I was saying this really resembles vitality in the young man's.
aiden buzzetti
It does.
It is the frontier American spirit, if you think about it.
Going towards the unknown through unknown difficulties, the goal in mind, the mountain on the horizon.
You have to do it.
There's no other way.
You just have to see what's out there.
It is what we need.
tate brown
It's so true.
We have to see what's out there.
Well, Aiden, thank you very much, dude.
We'll catch you next time, and I'll catch you later.
Best of luck, man.
aiden buzzetti
Thank you.
tate brown
All righty.
Well, that was the great Aiden Buzzette.
See, this is what I mean, dude.
This is, this is what we do at Timcast.
You know, we're loose.
You know, we're raw.
You know, we like the raw dog things.
Aiden's fantastic.
I mean, I'm telling you, you have to go follow him.
You got to keep up with his work because he's one of those guys where he's kind of, you know, he's not out for clicks.
He's not trying to be an influencer.
Like, he's legitimately part of the do-something crowd.
And he's accessible too.
I mean, if you want to get involved, if you want to, you know, if you see an issue in your local area, he's a great resource.
You can follow his Twitter and keep up with a lot of the publications that him and the 1776 project are putting out.
It's really just some fantastic stuff.
So with that, I think we're going to start winding down the show.
I won't be here Monday or Tuesday.
It's still up in the air.
Who's going to fill in for the show or if there will be a show on those days?
But we'll get there.
Penguin made me cry.
I've seen that doc before.
That was, I don't know who said that.
If that was you, just start spamming in the chat right now saying, I said that.
Because that's so true.
It made me cry as well.
I don't want to admit it.
You know, I don't like, seems gay to say a penguin made me cry, a flightless bird made me cry, but it's true because it reminds me of who I am as a person, as a man, as an American patriot.
So with that, I will see you guys possibly Wednesday.
I think that's when I'll be back and we'll have a great show for you guys.
We're going to raid Dvore Darkens, the great Dvory Darkens.
We love Dvore.
He's a total patriot.
Undock crimes that hurts my little penguin heart.
So true.
So with that, exit Instagram at Realtate Brown.
Follow me, follow me, follow me.
Dude, a lot of people don't even realize you're following me.
So go follow me.
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