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Jan. 12, 2026 - Tim Pool Daily Show
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Violence ERUPTS In Minneapolis, Leftists Call For ARMED Resistance

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What is going on, Patriots?
This is Tate Brown here holding it down on this beautiful Monday morning.
Well, now it's the afternoon here in sunny Florida, USA.
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absolutely love it obviously massive massive news over the weekend There's been a lot going on.
I'm just trying to get oriented here to get us situated.
You know, it's one of those weekends where you're just kind of glued to your phone trying to see what the new happening is.
You know, there's been all these critiques over the years.
I've been one of them.
My fellow colleague here at TimCast is in this camp, Mary Morgan.
She's also part of the Nothing Ever Happens sort of clique.
And it's funny, me and her work for a company where the joke, the cliche is that there's always calls for Civil War.
And I'll be honest, I was one of these people that would kind of roll my eyes a little bit when Tim Pool would say, oh, the Civil War, we're on the precipice of Civil War.
I'd be like, okay, alright.
Yeah, we get it, we get it.
Man, after this, really this year, but this weekend especially, you're starting to see it could really go that direction.
It really is feeling like the stage is set, the table has been set.
For a potential civil war.
So, things are escalating.
Things are getting wacky and wild.
All over Minneapolis this weekend, obviously, violence erupted following the killing of Renee Good, the lady that tried to ram an ICE officer with a car.
Again, liberals, leftists, libtards, whatever you want to call them, they still haven't quite sort of accepted Run over ICE agents with your car.
They're still debating this.
They're still trying to, you know, litigate this.
And in the meantime, they're taking to the streets.
They're rioting.
They're attacking people.
They're calling for a violent overthrow of the United States government.
You know, typical weekend activities for these people.
So there's a lot to get into on this front.
Thankfully, I'm going to dive into it a little bit, but we will be joined at the half hour mark by the great Patrick Casey.
Fantastic commentator.
You've probably seen him on TimCast IRL before.
Also on my show, Across the Pond, which will be back next weekend.
Everyone's been asking, everyone's been wondering where that show is.
It will be back next weekend.
We're going to get going on it again.
But you would have seen Pat on there a few weeks ago.
We brought him on to talk dating.
It was something completely separate.
But we'll be bringing him in at the half hour mark to really break down, sink our teeth into what is going on.
But more importantly, what do we do to get out of this?
Because I think everyone kind of knows what's going on.
I don't know how productive it is to really just keep, you know, clamoring on and on about what's going on on the ground, because I think everyone kind of knows.
Everyone knows what these people are capable of.
Everybody knows what their intentions are, what they want to do.
The question is, what do we do now?
How do we address this problem?
Because as conservatives, we're very good at identifying issues.
You know, us here on the right, very good at identifying issues, but actually providing I think he's one of the best at really unpacking what's next, what are the next steps to get out of this, and that hopefully should provide a bit of a white pill for you, because again, it's very easy to get blackpilled with these kind of things.
So, obviously we have the Minnesota story to jump into.
I also want to touch on the discourse going on on Twitter right now.
This discourse over third places, right?
So you have these people out there, Twitter and real life, who have an axe to grind with the way that American cities are designed.
You may famously remember Pete Buttigieg during the Biden administration saying how our highways are racist, and he was talking about how the bridges on the Long Island Expressway, or rather on the Grand Central Parkway in New York City, were low to prevent black people from going to the beach.
That was quite literally Which is absolutely ridiculous.
There's a YouTuber, Don't Walk, Run Productions.
He actually did a great video debunking all of that.
Talking about when they were building the bridges.
That wasn't even a consideration.
It was just ridiculous.
So you could go check out his video to really get more on that.
I know it's a bit of an old story at this point.
But anyway, these people are out there.
These pro-urbanism, yimby types.
And the thing is, they constantly are pointing out these cafes in Europe.
Where everyone's sitting around having a great time, you know, drinking wine and eating baguettes or whatever.
And they're like, why can't America have this?
It's just these evil capitalists.
These evil capitalists are just preventing us from having this perfect utopian society like they have in Europe.
And they just completely dance around the issue, why we can't have that.
Even if there was a massive appetite for it in the United States, even if there was this upswell of desire for this sort of thing, we can't have that because our cities are dumps.
Our cities are dumps, and the people that live in them, in the inner cities, are incredibly violent.
And you can't just walk around and, you know, sit outside in a cafe.
That's just not how America works.
We're going to get into all of that.
We're going to dive in and see what's going on.
We do have producer Serge in the house.
He's coming in.
He's going to get the audio dialed in.
I don't know.
I think it's fine so far, but, you know, just in case, we're going to get into that.
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But let's get into the first story.
Boom from the Nick Sortor.
Here's what he had to say.
The quote, the quote, peaceful protesters are at it again surrounding my vehicle, breaking my windows, spray painting the car, telling Cam Higby and I over and over again that they're going to kill us.
We are safe, but police have detained us because rioters called 911 on us.
Not shutting up is what he said.
Look at the damage they did to the car.
Look at this, I mean.
unbelievable. So you can see here. Uh, let's see if I go full screen, maybe. No, it cuts it off. Okay. You can see here, it's like hiding right by the play button. That bottle there, that's frozen water. So they were handing out these frozen water bottles, which when you freeze a water bottle, You make a brick.
That's what that is.
And so you're seeing these um, you're seeing these holes in the back of their back of their window here.
That's because someone's chucking these frozen water bottles at the back of their window, like that's like throwing a brick at their car and they've spray painted it as you can see.
I mean, this is like unbelievable stuff, completely decimated it and you got to keep in mind these are like high profile, these are high profile guys.
Right, these are guys that uh, you know, everyone knows that they're able to document it.
Think how many times this is happening to people that don't have this platform to just like instantly amplify.
You know what's going on.
I mean, this is really tremendous stuff.
So i'm going to show you the video here.
This was the I think this is the correct video um, here.
This is from AtCamHegbyCamHegbyTheGreatHam.
Great.
Can't make me start.
I'm getting started here in the week.
Great guy.
Friend of the show.
This is the look inside of the car as this sort of siege, this boxing in, happened.
take a look at this get out of the way Get out of the way.
You're just telling him to get out of the way.
This is crazy. It's like DayZ. He's got to go up on the air because that guy's also, who knows. So I'll have to talk to the guys. I don't know if they suspect that this guy was part of the crew and was trying to box him in or if he just didn't know what was going on and pulled out of the way. Something that's interesting here,
we'll do a little play-by-play here. So obviously this is a terrifying situation. I think all of us, I want to say Nick, I mean Wheelman here, he got out of that without hurting anybody, which is really surprising. He would have been justified, I would say. I mean, he was being sieged. What would you call that? Unjust sort of detention, something like that. Um, you can see here, this guy in the flannel, as we skip along here,
see how he cuts away? When we come back, he's on top of the car. So he jumps onto the car. He jumps onto the car before Nick starts pulling forward. That's why Nick pulled forward, is because this guy jumped on the car, presumably, to, like, attack him. And what's going on here is this guy is jumping on the car. Have you ever seen in China? There's these videos in China where, uh, It'll be like the dash cam footage or whatever, and they're driving along the highway, and then people will just fall onto the road,
or they'll jump on top of the car because they're trying to draw an insurance fraud claim, scam, whatever you want to call it. They're trying to do that so then they can go and call the police and say, he hit me with this car. Oh my gosh. That's what's going on here. This is what this guy is doing in the flannel. That's why he's jumping on the car,
because he wants to be able to then phone the police and say, hey, Nick Sortor just hit me with this car. So he jumps on top of the car, and look at this. Look at this roll-off. That's like a stunt roll-off. That's like a Hollywood stunt double roll-off. He knew how to roll off without getting hurt. That's exactly what he does there. And then the squad peels out. So,
like, everything about this is just meticulously calculated from these leftist agitators because they know what they're doing. These people are not idiots. These people are not idiots. They are trying to overthrow the United States government. That's their explicit goal. You know, derail the Trump administration and they view anyone that's just simply doing their job, documenting what's going on, exposing what they're doing as a threat to their mission. So they have all these tactics that they use. I mean, those boxing tactics, again, that was intentional. Jumping on the car like that,
that was intentional. That was calculated. These people know what they're doing. They're not idiots. So obviously all this is happening in Minneapolis as these riots are going on, again, following the shooting of Renee Good. We've gone in depth on the show. I went in depth,
did a play-by-play breakdown. Tim has done multiple segments, also on IRL, covering the breakdown. It's a clean shoot. There's no question about it. They're probably not even going to bother prosecuting this guy because it would just be a waste of time. There's no case really to be had here. You even have police unions. Police unions are typically fairly based,
fairly right-wing. But you have these police unions, these police chiefs, rather, in left-wing. Uh, cities or jurisdictions saying, like, yeah, this guy's, this clean shoot, like, what are you gonna do about it? So, just ridiculous, but these people, they're waiting for something, an excuse to riot. They, they, They hate ICE, they hate immigration detention, they want to replace you, and ICE is the only thing standing in the way between full replacement of Americans.
um so that's why they're getting agitated and doing all these things so you know cam and nick just roll up and they're just filming right i mean they're acting like these guys are here to like they're like they're gestapo or something they're literally here to just record what you're doing That's their job.
That's their job.
That's how they put food on the table.
And they perceive this as like the ultimate threat.
They perceive this as like the biggest impediment to their political project is simply being noticed and observed with what they're doing.
They would prefer to just burn things in the shadows.
So it's just ridiculous stuff.
So this is crazy.
Everything's going on in Minneapolis, Everyone's chimping, Everyone's burning things, you know, going crazy, breaking stuff. Typical, typical stuff. We've all heard this. This is the mentality of these protesters. This guy just happened to get caught on camera saying this, but this is what a lot of these people are thinking, saying, etc. I want you to just listen to this guy, And as you listen to them, to him, I think it's a him, who knows these days, I need you to believe everything he's saying, because he's just explicitly telling you what him and his compatriots believe.
So just take a listen here.
People need to fucking show up with guns to fit fucking time.
We need to show up with guns to finish, you guys.
It's time.
He's obviously talking to our three-letter agencies here It's an important stuff
This guy doesn't know what he's doing.
So, like, it's easy to make fun of this guy.
You know, You could say the only place he's going to learn how to use anything is the value menu at McDonald's.
There's no question about that.
There's a lot of jokes to be had, but the thing is, this guy, I mean, he's a loser.
Look at him.
He's like a slob.
He just looks like.
He's just dysgenic looking.
These are the guys you actually have to worry about.
Because these are the guys that have nothing to lose.
Look at this guy.
This guy's got nothing to lose.
He's got nothing going for him.
He's just literally at his wits end.
And the only thing that's providing any value in his life is political extremism.
This idea that there truly is this fascist takeover in America or whatever.
And the only thing giving him any value, the only thing getting him out of bed in the morning, is this idea that he has a role to play in this rebellion or whatever.
These are the guys you actually have to worry about.
When he's saying these things, he means them. When he says, we need to show up with guns to finish you guys off, time for an armed resistance against America, easy to make fun of this guy, easy to be like, oh, well, all right, Porky, good luck with that. Maybe try and run a mile first. This guy means it. This guy literally wants to kill ICE agents. There's been attempts already. We saw last year in Dallas,
someone was shooting at an ICE facility. Granted, they only killed detainees, which is pretty wild, but these people are serious. These people are serious. These people want to destroy you. Again, they just view ICE as an apparatus for the heritage American population. They hate you. They hate you,
ultimately, but ICE is a good stand-in, so they can have an axe to grind at them. You have to believe these people. You really have to believe these people. There's so many of these people like this. Just these losers that have nothing to lose. They're like total failures and everything. And the only thing providing them any value, the only thing that would make them feel anything inside is if they could harm you. That's quite literally what's going down here. So these people are just total animals. I have another video here. Um, this is from Aaliyah Scootercaster, um,
ICE agents smash the window of an activist's car, pull him out, and detain him as protesters confront the federal agents on the streets in Southside Minneapolis.
I'll just show you a bit of a clip here.
Shake him down.
Come on.
We're not getting run over again.
So this is how, like, A, this is how ICE actually, like, protects people.
This is how they save lives because these people, I mean, clearly they've demonstrated they're willing to kill these ICE agents if it means avoiding being detained or whatever.
So this is very good.
And you had a lot of people on the left freaking out about this.
They're saying, well, this is literally like Nazi Germany or whatever. Or on McIntyre, a friend of the show, had a great take, a great commentary on this video that I want to read here. He says, I know I joke, but this really will require reconstruction in blue areas. Activists drive in from states away. The locals are openly hostile and working to undermine federal agents. The police are on the side of criminals. Local judges are also hostile. So, Again.
You're seeing this situation, this is what it's going to take.
And then obviously um, everyone's coming out, they're confronting them.
Like these people, get a real job, get a real job.
Like these are, by all accounts, these probably, these people probably have like a job.
These are probably like some somewhat well-to-do people.
These are probably like fairly normal people, but they're just completely brainwashed.
And this is why Oran's saying we do need sort of reconstruction in blue areas.
It's not a joke, that's not a facetious point to make.
It's like, no, these people legitimately live in a completely different world than us.
They have a completely different worldview.
They have a completely different uh, comprehension of morality.
There's no bread to be broken with people.
There's no debating our way out of this.
There's no, you know.
marketplace of ideas. Well, maybe we just need to propose a new idea to these people. Maybe we just need to explain the Constitution in a different way to these people and they'll finally buy into our vision. No, there's nothing. There's nothing. If people are this hostile over something as basic as immigration enforcement, Where is the common ground there? Where is the middle ground? Where is the sort of table,
the negotiation table? It's not there. There's nothing here. These are two, functionally, two separate societies sharing the same country. What else are you supposed to do? Because you have these libtards, right? And they come on shows like TimCast, they come on other shows, and they're like, oh, well, of course I'm against illegal immigration. You know, we just need to be more, you know, gratuitous towards legal immigrants or whatever. But they're lying about that because ICE, again,
is just trying to, at this point, undo the damage Biden did. I mean, everyone's pointed out, you know, dissatisfaction with the deportation numbers and these sorts of things. So really, we're just trying to undo what Biden did. And this is the resistance they go up against. This is like literally people are willing to die over this. This is the situation these Border Patrol guys are in. Look at this. This is at a Target in St. Paul,
Twin City of Minneapolis. He's just going to the bathroom. All these fucking bums! Fucking bum! You, you're a bitch! And if your wife is, I'll probably fuck her too. You guys are all bitches. You can't do shit to me. You can't do a thing to me. Get the fuck out of here! Get the fuck out! Nobody fucking wants you here! Right, Get the fuck out.
Walk the fuck out, you stupid bitches.
Get the fuck out of here, you dumb.
The fuck out of here, you fucking cowards.
So one, Greg Bovino, total Alpha total, Chad.
He was just farming for an edit there.
There's no question about it.
The dude's cortisol level is uh, in the basement.
He isn't, he's, he's looks maxing, he's.
He's again not raising his cortisol and uh excellent, we love Greg Bovino.
Um literally, this is the pushback these guys are having for trying to again uh, enforce very basic standards um, in the United States, very basic standards for our immigration law.
This is the uh reception they get from these locals.
Again, this man is just chastising him.
He says, no one wants you here.
Um, did you, did you see the last election results?
I don't know maybe, maybe you're not a politico, maybe you're not a wonk.
Um, we actually do want these people there, we do want these federal agents there and we want them deporting all of these people that came here.
Uh, but this is just the environment these guys are in.
This is Again, just two different Americas.
This is two fundamentally different Americas.
These are what these people are defending.
By the way, these are what these, these brave resistance warriors, are defending.
This is from Breitbart.
A few days ago, TSA found millions in cash and luggage of Somalians at Minneapolis airport.
This is what they're defending like literal scammers literal, literal fraudsters who have like an iq of 80 and that's like probably their smartest people.
This is what they're defending.
Federal agent, or rather federal officials, have begun investigating the long ignored shipping of at least 700 million.
Um, let me open this real quick, one sec, uh 700 million in U.s cash by Somalis and air travel outside of the Minneapolis Saint Paul International airport.
Witnesses say that the cash was legally flown out in Somalia and other countries and that TSA routinely flagged the money to their superiors.
The cash and bundles of 1 million or more were packed in passenger luggage and shown to airport security officials by migrants flying back to Somalia area airport.
as well as other African countries and places in the Middle East.
Biden officials obviously did not try to investigate any of the massive cash transfers during his term in office.
Arizona Republican Representative Eli Crane was alarmed at the reports and said that Congress must investigate the millions found filling baggage sent to Africa and the Middle East.
The congressman replied to a libs of TikTok post that the related TSA warnings that bags full of cash are being found checked in by Somalis from Minnesota.
So you can see here, these accounts like libs of TikTok were getting these tips from people.
They were saying like, look, these Somalians are flying through TSA with just massive amounts of cash, massive amounts of cash.
We've all seen the numbers.
These people aren't like founding businesses.
I mean, daycares, I guess.
They're scamming.
That's how they're getting this much money.
And we saw with all this fraud going on in Somalia that a lot of this money was simply just being sent back to Somalia to fund terrorist organizations.
And you may be sitting there like...
how does that happen? Can you just like Venmo like a terrorist group? It's like, well, this is how it happens. They literally just go through TSA with a duffel bag full of cash. No one in the Biden administration asked any questions. And the only way we really found out about this was,
again, these tips, these anonymous tips here from people presumably working in TSA. Yeah, this is a TSA agent in Phoenix. Like, what are we doing? What are we doing? This is how this happens. This is literally how you get R-worded by these people. This is what's going on. They're defrauding you. That's your money in that duffel bag getting shipped off to heaven knows where,
never to enter the United States again just to fund terrorism at the end of the day, because it's the only viable industry in Somalia. Just complete, we're getting railroaded. We're getting railroaded. It's horrific. So, I'm going to bring Pat Casey in here in a little bit. We're going to break this down and so much more. I do want to jump to this story real quick. One second. I wanted to touch on this. This was driving me crazy. I have like five minutes to break it down. This is just,
this is like the most insufferable discourse. There's that tweet, I think it was Nightmare Vision, where he was like, leftism is just being fed information and pretending not to understand it. And that's absolutely what's going on. It's something along the lines of that,
and that's exactly what's going on here. This is from Hayden the Transit Guy. CGP Grey. Do you remember that YouTuber CGP Grey, Serge? This is his legacy. This is his legacy. These insufferable urbanist yimby people who think that the number one issue in American life is,
like, Old capitalists who just won't let us have this perfect utopian society. That's legitimately their entire analysis of politics. America desperately needs third places. Look at this in Spain! We already have those. Whoa! Whoa, Look how much fun they're having.
Whoa, They're singing, they're having a great time.
At least we're not Moroccan.
Whoa!
Hey, Yo, hey.
You know what would happen in the United States if we tried to do this?
We'd get shot.
That's literally what would happen.
You would have a group of black guys come up and just rob you while you're trying to have your coffee.
That's why we can't have third places in the United States.
It has nothing to do with the desire.
I'm sure Americans would love this.
You don't think I would like to get around to the boys and sing La Bamba every once in a while?
You don't think I want that?
Of course I want that.
I'm an American patriot.
But it's like America is literally an insane asylum.
We can't have this.
We literally can't have this because we have crazy people walking around all the time, literally, like, sawing people's heads off.
Look at this.
You want to know why we can't have this?
Here, take a look.
I don't know if you guys are connoisseurs of fine literature.
This is from Wikipedia.
Look, here's, like, the worst country.
This is, what is this?
List of cities by homicide rates.
This is, like, the all-star team of violence.
The All-star team OF Violence, Mexico Ecuador, South Africa top five.
Mexico, Ecuador, South Africa.
Top five.
You know, top five.
You know, top five.
Congratulations boys, you made the top five, literally.
Congratulations, boys.
You made the top five.
You were like this is a list of like, the worst countries on planet earth, like literal Ecuador pvp servers.
This is what these are.
These are pvp servers, pvp enabled servers.
Jamaica's in here.
Haiti, how does Haiti slip down to 17th?
What's going on in Haiti?
Maybe because they're taking it all out in the cats and dogs, or you know.
And then 28th, like well, look at this, look at all these dumps, these like literal backwater bleep holes.
And in 28th place Memphis, Tennessee.
That's my hometown.
You don't think I want to sing La Bomba with the squad?
I can't, because I live in Memphis.
You get shot, you go, you go.
What are you going to do?
Like sit outside of a firehouse.
subs, and sing La Bamba? And you get stabbed for your Jowdins? No, we can't have this! Look at all these dumps! Puerto Rico? But then you go down 44th, Baltimore, New Orleans, Detroit. It's optional. You want to know how you get these third places? And these guys are like, it's because we don't have public transportation! You know why we don't have public transportation? This! Nice. Hello? We can't have trains. We can't have buses. Because these same people,
as soon as ICE tries to do their job, they come unglued. As soon as the police try to do their job, try to rough up someone that's exhibiting tremendous antisocial behavior, and the person dies in custody of a fentanyl overdose,
they burn down the city. So we can't have third places. We can't have wholesome Chungus La Bamba or whatever. We can't have it. Because people don't want to be mean to black people. That's really what it comes down to. That's legitimately what it comes down to. I'm tired of beating around the bush. I'm tired of,
oh, maybe it's socioeconomic factors. No, it's like literally black culture does not permit this in American life. It just straight up doesn't. I'm so sick of this discourse. I'm so sick of everybody lying about what's going on,
gaslighting us as conservatives. We're the ones holding it back. If you guys would just Stop being, you know, sticks in the mud and loosen the zoning laws, then, you know, we could have this. We can't, because you guys don't take crime seriously. You don't want to, like, be, again, be mean to black. Like, That's legitimately what it comes down to.
That's all that it comes down to.
I'm just so sick of it.
I'm so tired of this.
I'm so tired of being gaslighted.
Also, we don't need it because our houses are huge.
So I'm sorry to these Europeans mouthing off.
It's one thing to have these libtards in the U.S. with their YIMBY and their zoning or whatever.
It's when the Europeans start mouthing off.
That drives me crazy.
You know why?
Because we have to build these massive houses because we can't go outside because it's literally freaking PVP server outside.
So we just invite the squad over to our house and watch football because our houses are huge.
We don't even need pubs at the end of the day.
You know, like it's just...
So I digress.
I would need a whole hour to really break this down.
I just wanted to get that in there.
I just wanted to get mine, so to speak.
So where was I?
With that...
Sorry, I just had to have a Patriot go-off moment there.
With that, we're going to bring the great Pat Casey and we're going to talk about freaking Minnesota or whatever.
Yo, Pat, can you hear me?
dude? Maybe. Pat, can you hear me? Oh, there you go. I'll let him touch it up. Let's see. Yeah, that should work. Hey, Patrick, can you hear me? I can! What is going on, Patriot? How are things going? Uh, things are going well in, uh, my immediate area in my, uh, in my life. Not, uh,
I would say they're generally going well in the country. I'm sure we'll get into, you know, everything that's happening, but, uh, yeah. Well, thanks for hopping on, dude. It's good to see you. It's been a minute. Can you give the people a quick intro, who you are,
what you do? Sure. So to keep it really quick, I am a writer. I've been published in Chronicles Magazine, The American Conservative Federalist, and I'm the host of Restoring Order. It's a podcast. You can go to PatrickCasey.com. It's on Spotify. It used to be on YouTube. It was suspended. And yeah,
just write, do political commentary, all that good stuff. Let's go. I love it. Well, I want to just like, let's let it rip. You're on Timcast. You know the drill. Do you think Civil War is imminent? Because I know. I know that's like, you know, a cliche at this point. You know, people are just like, okay, here we go with the Civil War talk. But I really am seeing two countries here. I mean, people that are literally going up to Bovino, who's like in a Target using the bathroom and like screaming, we don't want you here, these sorts of things,
simply for the crime of trying to enforce immigration laws that are on the books. Where is the off-ramp in that situation? How does this not escalate further? That's a good question. I think there's, there was no conceivable scenario in which Trump carries, fulfills his mandate given to him by the American people to carry out mass deportations, and that the left just like goes along with it. So there was always going to be, unfortunately,
given the insanity of the left, some chaos involved. You know, it's not like I'm sure a lot of Democrats support the people literally out in the streets obstructing, the Rene Goodes, the people obstructing, you know, to varying degrees of severity,
these ICE officers and their deportation missions. But it really isn't just like that radical, I don't know, 10th or something, but it's a very small amount of people that are willing to go out there and do that. And what needs to happen is you need to arrest these people, Which the Trump administration is doing.
You can't just arrest them for being out there.
They have the right to protest, right.
So you have to wait until they.
They take things a little too far and, as we've seen from the clips, as we've seen from, you know, the Trump administration posting the pictures, the faces, the names of people who have been arrested, you know, specifically in Minneapolis, for going after and you know, just kind of crossing that line.
You can see some of the footage outside of these detention facilities Tate, where you know these guys are just waiting um, you know, DHS officers, it's just deportation engines, federal agents generally.
They're waiting for these, these scumbags, to just like do the thing that allows them to haul them into the facility and uh, and to arrest them.
So it's pretty crazy as to you, but I think that the feds basically need to win in that sense. And it feels weird to say that as a right winger, but the Trump administration needs To win, probably without using the military, without doing the Interaction Act,
we need to show that you need to respect federal officers, and you don't have the right to impede them, you don't have the right to harass them, to stalk them, and, you know, eventually you arrest enough of these people, and I think that, you know, that kind of sends the message,
and, but we'll see. I mean, there's really no telling where we're going. Yeah, well, I guess to add to that, Or on McIntyre, he put some thoughts out. He was commentating on a video where ICE was just making a routine arrest of people that were impeding their operation. And of course,
they were met with a bunch of resistance, these sorts of things. And the thing he said, it jumped out to me was, like, we've kind of joked around about it in the past, but we kind of do need a degree of reconstruction going on in the United States. Like, we do need something sort of approximating that to truly Sort of reestablish some common ground. So it's not just two completely opposing factions, but just two parties, you know, proposing maybe disagreements on economic policy. Do you agree with this consensus? I mean,
because that's strong language, but I look at that and I'm not balking at that anymore. Yeah, that's so. Many people have noticed this division that, you know, even if we're able to, the Republicans are able to win elections, there are a lot of people out there who are,
even if they're not in the majority, are just not going to, you know, agree to disagree at the end of the day. And I think the reason for that, a big part of that, is that there used to be a broad consensus or a broad center in American politics. You know,
if you go back, people love bringing up the fact that, you know, Barack Obama, it was either his initial campaign or his re-election campaign. I think it was as late as his re-election campaign. Barack Obama said that he believed marriage was a man and a woman. This is Barack Hussein Obama, right? And, you know, flash forward a few years later, then you've got Tucker Carlson on Fox News, saying that he believes that gay marriage is essentially a good thing. You know, it's like scariest, most right wing pundit. You know, Hillary Clinton supported a border roll,
you have Biden with supporting the 94 crime bill that Was a good thing. I know, you know, I see conservatives trying to own Joe Biden during when he was in office. The 94 crime bill was like pretty good. We believe in law and order. So that's just like there used to be a broad consensus. Now there isn't that broad consensus on like basic stuff like children cannot become and should not become transgender. That, You know, we need to actually have some level of security, ideally robust security at the southern border.
And, of course, law and order that, yeah, we support we need to support law enforcement.
We do not side with criminals, with illegal aliens over, you know, the good men and women in law enforcement, federal, state, local, whatever, who are just trying to enforce the law.
So the fact that we don't have a consensus on that means there's going to be some pretty severe polarization.
I don't think we're going to see, you know, actual civil war or anything of the sort.
But it just means that, you know, when we're trying to accomplish an agenda that was very popular, mass deportations were not exactly a secret that Trump was going to do that when he was elected.
He was that was that was a central promise to his campaign.
And so Trump needs to deliver that.
But, yeah, it's it's it really isn't a good sign for a country to not be able to agree on previous things that previously were.
you know, fairly consensus on both sides of the aisle. So it's really kind of, again, no telling where we're headed. Yeah, that was what really jumped out to me with the Rene Good shooting is, you know, a lot of people were saying, like, you know,
what drives a society where their middle aged women are going out and being foot soldiers for this, you know, this cause or whatever. And I look at that and I'm like, All of this started literally because Nick Shirley walked around and exposed the most obvious fraud in history. It's like a scandal of utmost proportion. The fact where he scalped a Democrat governor. I mean, That's how bad the fraud was.
That's how all of this started.
Kirstie Noem says, yeah, we're going to send some DHS agents in there to mop it up.
That's what kicked all of this off.
That's what started this entire unrest, so to speak, in Minneapolis.
I mean, what does that say where you have these these these women like Renee Good who like literally are willing to put their lives on the line for fraudsters, for murderers, for rapists, like literally the worst aspects of American society.
And they're willing to literally die for those people with kids at home.
I mean, I know we're hitting on it, but like, again, I'm just I'm just trying to figure out how do you get out of that?
I mean, that is that is brainwashing of the utmost proportion.
Yeah, you're right.
So those people are unfortunately, they're not they're not going anywhere.
And, you know, you can't, despite what some people on Twitter would would like to have happen, you can't just lock people up for being a libtard, essentially.
And as far as I'm aware, the Trump administration is not currently working on us all.
Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't count on Congress introducing any legislation to, to fix that.
Maybe if we get rid of the filibuster, we'll see.
But in all in all seriousness, you know, this is something Curtis Yard has dealt with as well, just the idea of like, okay, even if you like you're you we almost yeah, we almost do have red and blue America to two pretty different countries in a way that you know, even a few decades ago.
the division was not this stark. And the things that people bickered over politically were not, like, basic civilizational, you know, things, basic prerequisites for civilization, like having, you know, law enforcement. Having a border. So I don't know. Curtis Yarvin, one thing he will point out is look up denazification and what it took in Germany to totally expunge Nazism. And you say totally, and it's like, yeah,
I guess there's still some neo-Nazi biker gangs or something. So it's not really a serious force in German society. But what it took to totally stamp out Nazism in Germany was really extreme. And I don't think American conservatives really have the stomach for doing that to lives. And I think in any society,
you're going to have people that lean a little more liberal, a little more conservative again. So it's about trying to reestablish that center. And we just need political power at the end of the day. That's not enough. Trying to subvert and sabotage totally reasonable,
popular, you know, plans, right wing policy, you know, sort of platforms, but it's if you have power, and you're using it in the right way. And ideally, you know, on a long enough timeline,
it's You rack up enough wins, those people don't feel as emboldened, right? Because if the Rene Goods of America are just sitting at home and complaining on Reddit, then that's not really a problem. The problem is when the Rene Goods of America are going out and putting federal law enforcement in self-defense situations,
when they're ramming federal law enforcement with their cars. We're able to triumph, essentially, in Minneapolis. We're able to, DHS is able to pull off its operation successfully and that people it sends a message that look, you can go out there and you're just going to get arrested.
Yeah, I think you have the right to protest, but anything beyond that which obviously, if you've seen any of the footage the, the freaks in Minneapolis are going well beyond um, but but yeah, there's a longer question, Tate.
Uh, a broader discussion that needs to be had about you know what, what is going to happen in this country um, when you know, even as the right wins uh, elements of the left grow increasingly desperate and, you know, turn to violence, terrorism and and these sorts of things.
The last i'll say on this is, you know, people notice that the resistance uh, if you remember that, from Trump's first term.
was not here after Trump won. You know, liberals and like influencers, Democrat officials, you know, all of that. And it was that there was very little of that after Trump won. Like a lot of institutions buckled to Trump, you know, tech like this, the business world. And but the left,
that doesn't mean everyone gave up on the left. It means that the left realized it was losing and the more radical elements. became even more radicalized, and that's why you're seeing a lot of the stuff that you've seen. That's why you saw, of course, the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk. This is what you saw in the 60s and the 70s as well, you know, with the Weather Underground and the Black Liberation Army, these like straight up left-wing terrorist organizations,
right? They did that because the 60s didn't turn into a straight up communist revolution. There's a lot of like commie stuff in the 60s, but, you know, you had Nixon that won in what, 68? You know, from that point on, the leftists were like, wait, this wasn't what's supposed to happen. So they turned to terrorism. And you're seeing that again now. Yeah, I've always made that point. I'm like, the reason they're doing this, the reason that they do kill Charlie Kirk is because in a way they do feel backed into a corner. So in a weird way,
it's an indication that we are winning. But it just, you know, furthers the point that like, this is why you have to really stamp out every level that you have legally available to you. Because I mean, that's sort of the thing, like, we're talking about the two different things. I kind of want to almost steel man maybe the people on the right that are a little uncomfortable with what's going on, because I actually understand it. I mean, we're on Rumble. This audience especially has been tapped into the political zeitgeist for a long time. They,
you know, experienced the Biden winner, they were tapped into the news cycle every day. I can, I can understand the impulse to be almost hesitant when you see the federal government making these, you know, broad overtures making these, you know, you know, these, you know, decisive Um, decisions. Because we're so used to that apparatus being weaponized against right-wingers. It's been this way for 60, 70 years. Even when Republicans were in office, it's still in many ways, this entire apparatus was pointed towards, for all intents and purposes,
Oppressing the right.
I mean, making it more difficult for us to enact our means, these sorts of things.
So I can actually kind of, to a degree, understand why you're seeing a lot of these commentators on the right sort of stick their head up and kind of counter signal, for lack of a better word, some of these actions the Trump administration is making.
What would your sort of pitch be to those people?
Maybe not pitch, but what would your sort of message be towards those people who are like, I don't know, what if they turn this back around on us in four years?
Like, you know, are we sure this is the correct direction to go?
No.
So here.
here's what I think would happen. Let's say, worst case scenario... You know, Vance gets the nomination. Vance getting the nomination, so that's not the worst case scenario. Vance gets the nomination. Whoever gets the nomination loses on the Republican side and you get President Newsom or something. President Newsom is going to gut ICE, is what he's going to do. The likelihood of him keeping ICE and deploying ICE agents to harass I guess normal Americans, it's just that isn't what ICE does,
basically. And so I wouldn't worry about that. I mean, I understand, especially if you have more libertarian inclined members of the audience. There are people that are part of the MAGA coalition, to be sure, some of them. It's just not, it's not going to happen. Also, the Democrats will, like, do what they can to screw with the right, but they're not going to be sending ICE agents to, like,
hunt right-wing people down because they posted something critical of the Democrats or something online. That's just not really what it would look like. Getting, you know, they really want to gut ICE because they'll be afraid that You know, If they keep ICE the same huge level with as many ICE agents, with all of the funding that ICE has received under Trump, thanks to the big, beautiful bill,
that it's going to be in the next Republican administration, they're going to use it.
So the next time the Dems get power, they're going to try to cut ICE.
Whether or not they abolish it remains to be seen.
Those calls are obviously resurfacing here.
But I think that, I think on some level, the Democrats understand that they have to like at least pretend to be doing border security.
So I think they would cut ICE, but they would say they're making it more efficient.
They're just saying, oh, we're not using this.
So I'm actually not worried about that.
Now, there's a separate argument that, you know.
seeing the feds rolling, you know, a few hundred deep. I mean, overall, there are thousands of federal agents in Minneapolis, which, as far as I'm concerned, is a good thing, given how lawless and anarchic it's become. There's an optics concern, though, right? Because we have to win, you know, elections, we have to win midterms, we have to win. So, you know, you can't just go like super hardcore and ignore public opinion. And,
you know, there's some evidence that public opinion is kind of, you know, people kind of soured a bit on the deportations. But, you know, that is what Trump was elected to do. So and it's necessary for for the country. So I'm a little more sympathetic to that one is, You know, is this going to hurt us long term politically?
And that's why I think it's important.
I ultimately do need.
To dispatch like ice agents to go, because these guys are not just going out, these guys are, you know, when they converge on a city like this, they are prioritizing.
It doesn't mean they're only going for the criminals, but they're prioritizing like the straight up harding criminals.
This guy, Jonathan Ross uh, the hero Ice Patriot who uh shot in self -defense uh Renee, Renee.
Good, you know, when he previously was run over, he was dragged 300 feet Tape.
And his arm was, because he had tried to break into the window of the car, the guy wasn't getting out, you know, single law enforcement stuff.
His arm was caught in, like, the jagged, Broken glass.
He needed 33 stitches and you know what this illegal that he was trying to get, and I think they did get eventually.
Uh, it was a convicted child molester.
So like wow, when they're sending the feds in, these are, these are the people, this is the scum that Renee Good and these other delusional, you know, Anti-ice libtars are are trying to keep literally on the streets, keep in our country, and it is totally despicable.
So I think, at the end of the day, these deportations are something that you need to have done uh, but at the very least, we want to minimize uh, you know, there's going to be some friction right, there's going to be a little chaos.
these deportations are something that you need to have done.
But at the very least, we want to minimize, you know, there's going to be some friction, right?
There's going to be a little chaos.
Uh, we're trying.
We don't want to lean into that too much.
On social media, you know, official government Twitter accounts probably shouldn't highlight protesters getting owned by, you know, pepper spray or something of the sort, even though I like it, but I can, you know, we'll see the clips from other accounts.
Yeah.
So we just got, I think the optics concern is good.
And also the last thing I'd say is we also have to work toward, you know, during Operation Wetback, which prior to this was the biggest, you know, mass deportation campaign in American history, there was a one to 10 ratio of someone who was deported, like physically removed from the country and people who self-deported.
Why?
Because the other illegals are like, holy cow.
Like, and I think that's part of Trump's tactics.
Yeah.
If you're in a city and you see like thousands of ICE agents and it's literally the only thing people are talking about in American media.
Yeah.
You bet.
If you're an illegal immigrant, you bet.
If you're an illegal immigrant, you're getting the hell out of there. I've seen libs who are not illegal saying, I'm getting out of Minneapolis. Obviously, illegals are. Are scared as well. So we want there to be mass deportations. And a lot of that is going to happen, obviously, through self deportations. The last thing I'll say is, we don't have to physically remove all of them. Putting on like a big scary show is, you know, might spook voters a little bit. But yeah, it's helping get these people out on their own,
which is the ideal way of doing it. You don't want to have to physically call every one of these, you know, I don't know how many tens of millions of illegals out of the country. And other things like E-Verify, other things like making it harder for illegals to, you know, get driver's licenses, jobs,
these sorts of things. I know a lot of this happens at the state level, but these sorts of measures need to happen in conjunction with the physical removals that ICE so far has done a pretty good job of doing. You know what's not politically prudent? Is if you take your time and you're a little slower on these things and they start having kids and they stay in the country and they vote. Like,
that's much more politically inexpedient than just, like, ripping the band-aid now. You take, like, five points off on the polls. You can make that back up by the midterms. Because there's something to be said. I mean, other guests have, you know, mentioned this on the show. It's like, look, the American news cycle spins very fast. It's a hamster wheel. So people will get adjusted to the new standards, so to speak. So it's like, as you raise the ante, Given enough time, people get used to that. And then you have the, again, to spook people,
you would have to raise the ante again. Because this is the point I've made. Part of the reason people are so dissatisfied, not everybody, but a proportion of the base is dissatisfied with sort of Trump's performance on immigration so far, is because they got used to the new elevated standard. I mean,
I make this point all the time. Like, we're at net negative migration. How crazy is that? Five years ago, if you advocated for net negative migration on a conservative panel, you would have gotten tossed off and called a white supremacist or something. And then now that's the official policy of the United States government. And it's well overdue. In many ways,
we probably ran out of time 15 years ago, so it's well overdue. We kind of had to stop. It's easy for people, like Zoomers especially, I mean, because I was 14 when Trump came down the escalator. I only know politics in the context of Trump. So maybe it's important to look back and say, even compared to Trump 1, hey, we've moved the football like 20, 30 yards down the field. If we just keep with this momentum. We're going to be okay. We're actually going to win. I mean, again,
this is sort of reorienting this entire apparatus. It takes more than, you know, six months or nine months or however long. We're in a year now. We have three years left. Vance is in decent shape. You know, the Republican Party in general is poised to at least be competitive in 28. Like, let's just take our time, because, again, and then you'll have these people, it's a lot of people on the left, too, where they're, like, critical of the optics and the shock and all, but then they're also, like,
complaining about how the mass deportations are too slow. I'm like, what did you think this was going to look like? I got clipped by Media Matters, because I said, like, You know, when the podcast bros were like, wow, these ICE videos, they look pretty bad. Like, I don't know, this seems a little too brutal. And I just said, like, What did you think?
What did you think an ice operation looked like?
Do you think these people are just going to comply?
These are literally hardened criminals.
Of course it's going to get a little like ugly.
That's just how this works.
And they clip me as if this was supposedly like, i'm some crazy radical.
It's a crazy thing to say.
How could you?
Yeah yeah, so it's just like.
I know you're seeing the same stuff and it's just.
It's just like let's stop.
And yeah, there's a lot of idiocy online.
Uh, it is what it is.
Look it yeah no, look.
During the first Trump term, we Trump has done more in one year than he did in his first term, and that's what a lot of people have forgotten.
Also uh, no one was talking about most of these issues.
certainly not at the national political level. In 2012, when Romney was challenging Barack Obama in one of their presidential, you know, one of the debates, the moderator asked Mitt Romney, what would you do about, you know, all of these illegals in the country or, you know, some equivalent, you know, something along those lines. And he said he advocated for self-deportation. Now we hear that and we say, well, yeah, but that's, you know,
just you have to do something to make these people self-deport. Garnered, you know, immense, you know, created a lot of controversy. Even Reince Priebus, who was the chair of the RNC at that time, he denounced those comments as, and I quote, heinous. So this is, this is the pre-Trump GOP. And yeah, you Zoomers out there, especially you younger ones, I know you get it, Tate, but. Some of them have just,
All they've known politically is Trump.
So they're like, why isn't, why isn't Trump opened up a portal to Agartha?
Yet it's like well, you know, that's a salient question, one of his campaign promises yeah, you know, maybe we wait till 28 with Vance and he, he will deliver something, and I promise something like that on the on the campaign trail.
But it um yeah, people just uh, get really accustomed things.
Things change for the better, and then they become accustomed to that as as the new normal and then they just become, they resume their uh, you know high expectations and you know it's okay to have high expectations.
You just have to be realistic.
There are a lot of things that I would like Trump to do that he's not going to do.
I would like an immigration moratorium or some kind of legislation that would considerably limit legal immigration into this country.
because a lot of the bad stuff that happens through immigration happens regardless of whether the people come in legally or illegally. Look at Minneapolis. When they're busting these fraud rings, Most of the Somalis who get charged are U.s citizens.
These are not people that like should have been had had that offer to become citizens in the first place.
Yeah um, so I, you know there's there's stuff that we can be critical of with Trump, but you just got to remember things have moved very far in the right direction.
There's a lot of good stuff happening, and there are people online that are trying to turn you against Trump because selling outrage porn is the only way that they can stay relevant as influencers.
So you people, you know watching this in the audience, I would encourage them to just kind of be on the lookout for that are these people.
A lot of these people are are trying to lead you astray.
They're trying to turn you against Trump um, because they view they're they're more concerned with their own career as as an influencer.
Um yeah, so it's.
but yeah, no, things are going pretty well overall. There's a lot that needs to happen in the remainder of Trump's second term. But like I said, in his first term on basically every major issue on immigration, right, ended the border crisis almost overnight. And, you know, people don't give him really credit for that. It's, I guess, just once you solve a problem that no one's He spent four years during his first term trying to figure out how to get a handle on the southern border. By the end,
he figured out what to do. By week one of this term, he basically solved the problem. We've got net negative migration, as you pointed out. He secured the single greatest increase in immigration enforcement funding in U.S. history. He's taken an axe to this anti-white civil rights bureaucracy. He's done the most damage to anti-white discrimination and similar policies since these policies were introduced in the 60s. You know, For all.
Everyone wants to talk about Reagan and Nixon, these sort of anti -deep state, you know, like meritocracy figures, I guess, although Nixon was the last of the sort of the Great Society presidents, But they did nothing even remotely approaching what Donald Trump has done to combat this insane race communist.
communist bureaucracy that's, you know, festered in the, in the American government.
So there's, and there's a lot of other great stuff that's happened just in the first year.
And I'm sure there's plenty, plenty more to come.
Yeah.
that was so funny. The clip the other day with Trump where he was just kind of like off this, you know, he just instinctually understands these things, because he was just like, kind of throwing the idea around with with the anti white racism sort of how to combat it. And he's just like, Yeah, yeah. They're just, like, really getting roughed up out there. Like, He.
He doesn't have these like elaborate political philosophies and like these nerdy, like wonky, you know policy institutes that he's reading.
He just instinctually understands a lot of these issues right away.
Sometimes the policy comes out, you know, a little sloppy sometimes but it's like again, you just look at these things, you look at the record, you look at the wins we've had and you're like this is just clearly someone who instinctually understands these things.
This is clearly someone who um, is able to assemble a team that's directionally correct and I just don't really understand why you would throw a.
You know something in the spokes other than, like you said, that's kind of self-interest almost, and this is also interesting when Trump won.
I didn't understand this impetus from a lot of people, a lot of really, you know, guys that I respect and like a lot, where they were saying, like, look, the conservative movement is not poised to govern, they're not poised to lead. And I was like, What do you mean? Like, you know, Trump, like, this team he's assembling is fantastic. I didn't realize he was talking about everyone else. I didn't realize that they were talking about, like, as soon as we are in a position to lead, suddenly we would lose faith in ourselves to wield power, and people would get, like, suspicious or skeptical,
and it would just turn into a massive dogpile. And that, in many ways, is what's happened. But, I mean, that's why Trump, it's great that he's president, because that gives us something to rally around. But, yeah, with that, Pat, I want your final thoughts, and more importantly, where people can find you for Great. Final thoughts. Well, you really can't respect the officers who are going out and doing this work enough. They really, you know, if you know any of them,
buy them a drink or something, basically, because these people understand, especially in the aftermath of the Jonathan Ross justified shooting of Rene Gold, that they're risking their reputations. I mean, his family basically had to go into hiding. You know how insane People on the other side are. They're risking, you know, obviously they're putting their lives on the line. They're risking their safety. You know, they're risking, you know, dad not coming home. You know,
it's crazy stuff. And also they're risking the potential for, you know, serious legal problems in the event that whenever there's a subsequent Democrat administration. So these guys and gals, because I guess some of them are women too,
deserve all of our respect. They deserve praise on social media. That's what little we can do. But I know people involved in this sort of work. And yeah, they're on social media. It's good to see that there are people out there that don't hate them. So we just definitely have to let that be known. Yeah,
that's basically all I have here. So yeah, people can go to PatrickCasey.com. They can follow me on X at RestoreOrderUSA. And that's also my Instagram username. I'm newly on Instagram. I made one in 2020 and was banned in 24 hours. Not even for anything I posted. Just like,
hey, there's this Brighton guy on. I'll get this guy off. But now I'm on there. Let's go. I appear to be lasting. He's got some good reels on there. Unk's still got it. Unk has still got it. Well, Pat, thank you so much for hopping on, man. We'll see you soon. Thank you, Tate. Alrighty. Well, that was a great Pat Casey. That was fantastic. It's so true. The incentive structure on the right for the longest time has bended towards contrarianism, has bended towards nitpicking,
these sorts of things. It's totally justified. I'm not downplaying that. But Pat laid out pretty well. Things are Directionally correct. Things are moving in the right direction. Minneapolis. I agree. If we can mop this up without having to completely break everything,
that's great, because we still have to win elections. I mean, it's unfortunate, but it's true. So with that, we're going to get the raid for DeVorey Darkins going. Serge, I don't know if you want to get that fired up. I'll wind down the show here. We're a minute over time. So thank you very much for watching on this beautiful,
beautiful Monday. Great. Great to be back, and we'll have some more exciting stuff over the week heading for you. We got a TimCast IRL tonight at 8pm. Be there or be square. Follow me on X and Instagram at RealtateBrown. Come hang out. We're having a great time as always. And we're going to send you all over to DeVorey Darkins,
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