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July 28, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show
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Trump BULLIES Europe Into MONSTER Trade Deal, Europe COPING Over Trump MASTERCLASS
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tate brown ▲ ● ▼
Good afternoon, Rumblers.
This is the noon live hour of the Tim Pool Daily Show.
Obviously, I'm not Tim Pool.
I don't know what Matan did to him, but he's out today.
So he looked to the bench, he called me up, I answered the call.
I'm here.
If you don't know me, I'm producer Tate, Tate Brown, producer here at Timcast.
Pop on the shows every once in a while, but we're holding it down today.
I see you.
I see you.
You're hovering over the X button.
You're not giving me a chance.
That's not right.
That's not cool.
You got to let me cook a little bit.
But before we get into the show, which we got a lot going on, we got tariff masterclass from Trump, Art of the Deal.
If you've read it, you expect this.
But a lot of people still don't understand that Trump's cook.
He knows what he's doing.
This is what he does.
He makes deals.
We also got immigration, madness, H-1Bs, all sorts of exploitation.
It really seems like the world's just trying to rip us off at all times, and Trump's like our last stand.
So we're going to get into that.
We also have a brutal attack in Cincinnati.
Someone just, it was like a GTA server from what I was seeing in the video.
So we're going to get into that.
We're going to figure out what's going on.
But before we start, we got some sponsors, all in-house, obviously.
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So yeah, get you some Caspar.
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But more importantly, I would say, I would argue, is we have two more of the Culture War Live shows on the schedule.
You can get your tickets right now.
On August 2nd, we got Michael Malice and Angry Cops, the great police debate.
If you're pro-police, anti-police, show up and make an argument.
You got one of each on the panel.
So bring your arguments, bring your debate face and head on over.
And also on August 9th, we got a wild one.
It's a feminism debate.
We're rolling back the clock a little bit on the feminism.
So this, you should have your talking points ready to go.
We got a packed, packed roster.
Kat Tempf, Myron Gaines, and we got Kyla Turner, not so erudite.
This is going to be fantastic.
This is what I'm looking forward to.
There's going to be a lot of wailing and gnashing of teeth.
You got to be there.
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Like I said, yeah, I believe that the show on the second's selling pretty rapidly.
I don't know how much is left.
So if you want to go, you got to make a decision pretty quickly.
So yeah, with that, let's get into the story.
First up, we got from the New York Times.
U.S. reaches preliminary trade deal with Europe.
Let's get into it.
The European Union and the United States agreed on Sunday to a broad brush trade deal that sets a 15% tariff on most EU goods, including cars and pharmaceuticals, averting what could have become a painful trade war with a bloc that is the United States' single biggest source of imports.
President Trump said that the European Union had agreed to purchase $750 billion of American energy, while Ursula von der Leyen, the president of the EU's executive branch, told reporters this would be spread out over three years.
So this is so fun to watch.
First of all, the EU is totally getting their butt swooped here.
This is just proof that Trump is the master negotiator.
Because this cracks me up because what's her name?
Ursula?
It's so hard to pronounce.
It's like the 101 Dalmatians villain.
That's kind of what she reminds me of.
She's getting hyped up down here.
You know, oh, this agreement, it'll rebalance, but enable trade on both sides.
So she's like trying to act like she's cool with this.
Well, if you throw it back, this was April.
The EU, they were pursuing a zero for zero deal.
So they wanted zero tariffs on both sides.
So the fact that they're even considering this like somewhat of a dub at all is absolutely hilarious.
Even Axios this morning, I actually, I should have had the article.
It dropped right before showtime, is they were like almost berating Trump.
They're like, Trump doesn't give anything, but he's always winning.
He's winning these trade deals, and they're presenting this like this is this bad thing.
Well, we've been getting ripped off for a long time, so it's nice to see that Trump's actually going to bat for us.
So we can walk through some of the elements here.
Trump says we made it.
So true.
The two sides agreed to drop tariffs.
This is the interesting part.
They agreed to drop tariffs to zero on a range of goods, including aircraft, plane parts, certain chemicals, certain generic drugs, semiconductor equipment, and some agricultural products.
These are like big ticket items.
The thing about the EU, a lot of the trade imbalance, which we can take a look at here.
Let's see, where did I put it?
So this is the tension that Trump has identified.
If you look here in yellow, this is from the EU's website.
If you look at the yellow, that's exports, so exports from the EU.
The blue line is imports, so imports into the EU with the United States.
This was over a 10-year period, 2014 to 2024.
As you can see here, we're getting our lunch eaten by the Europeans.
Trump rightfully is a little ticked off about this, especially considering that we're their largest partner for exports and we're getting rinsed like this.
So that's kind of been the reason why Trump has been so intent on not giving the Europeans any ground.
So we've been giving them ground for, this goes back 10 years, but the trade imbalance, super old.
So yeah, Ursula, she's getting hyped up.
She's like, yeah, this is a great deal.
This is what we wanted.
We wanted 15% tariffs.
Let's see if we can get into the nitty-gritty of the tariffs here.
Before Trump came into office, the trade weighed tariff, the United States that we charged on foreign goods was 2.2, while the EU's was 2.7%.
Yeah, so they're getting rinsed here.
We're putting 15% on the EU, a bump up from what 2.2.
Absolutely monster from Trump.
So, yeah, Ursula's, she's getting hype.
Also, the British got off easy.
They're at 10%.
So that's just, we love the British, don't we?
We gave them, we did the 10% tariff and we did 15 for the Europeans.
Most of the EU, surprisingly, is coping and seething.
The French Prime Minister, François Bayroux, I don't know, doesn't matter how you pronounce it, honestly, because he's a hater, says the EU had capitulated to Donald Trump's threats of ever-increasing tariffs.
And he labeled the framework deal struck as a dark day for the EU.
Yeah, most of the Europeans aren't happy because they've been living large off of us, off of the American people for quite some time.
They're not taking this well.
As you can see, Francois, he's crashing out.
The big thing to note is that this is all part of Trump's effort to decouple the U.S. from these nasty multinational, these organizations like the World Trade Organization.
I mean, they've been mugging us for years.
It's a really beautiful, beautiful thing, this deal that we got.
The funny thing is they're calling it a trade deal, a preliminary trade deal.
Trump's calling it a trade deal.
But if you read between the lines on all of these write-ups, Trump retains the ability to increase the tariffs in the future if European countries do not live up to their investment commitments, a senior U.S. administration official told reporters.
It's a trade deal, but we can just like ratchet up the tariffs whenever you want.
I mean, this is like, this is a total rinse.
We're lightening them up.
This 15% tariff, which is already nuts, because the Europeans wanted the zero for zero.
And then we throw on top of it, like, by the way, if you guys get out of line, we can just ratchet up the tariffs even more.
I mean, it's absolutely hilarious.
This is kind of what we did to the Japanese.
That was like a week or two ago with our trade deal with them.
We had the same kind of clause where it was like, look, if you guys get out of line, if we don't like the way things are heading, we can just ratchet up the tariffs.
So like we, Trump has just completely gotten all these guys over the barrel because they're so desperate to keep the flow of commerce with the United States that we can finally throw our weight around.
And it's really a beautiful thing to see.
Like here's with the trade deficit.
This is kind of the main main tension, I would say.
Sorry, these two articles are from The Guardian, by the way.
Sorry, I'm a little new to all that.
But yeah, so this is where a lot of the tension is with the WTO, is there's like these games that everyone plays.
Like the United States is just expected to take all this on the chin while everyone else plays these games around the world.
This thing has driven me crazy for years.
Is China, they get this classification in the World Trade Organization as a developing nation.
Now, if you know anything about China, they're not developing.
They actually have a pretty large middle class.
I think they're like the their export-import market is, I think, the largest in the world.
Second largest in the world in the economy, ranks the five.
Okay, a trade and foreign investments, their top five.
By no stretch are they a developing nation.
The Wilson Center, which actually, I think they got doged.
So sorry, boys, but they actually did a great ride up here.
It was Ambassador Mark Green.
The People's Republic of China is the world's, you know, we covered this, provides an estimated $3 billion per year in foreign aid expenditures, but the United Nations still formally treats them as a developing economy.
So it's like literally a cheat code for China.
The reason why this matters, the classification matters, is because you get these like these little perks, right?
It allows China to take advantage of a range of special benefits intended to help lower the financial burden for lower-income member countries.
The main thing that causes the tension in the World Trade Organization is this right here.
The World Trade Organization allows developing nations to have longer periods of time to meet various financial and trade obligations.
The World Bank provides China billions in loans, even though China's income level would otherwise make it ineligible for such funding.
So the Chinese are completely gaming the system.
And Trump has rightfully stepped up and was like, this is absolutely ridiculous that they're able to get away with this.
And so he's doing this thing with the World Trade Organization where he's sidelining them because he could just leave.
It would cause a lot of problems for a myriad of reasons.
So he's doing this thing where he just kind of sidelines it.
He's stripping them because they have these unelected bureaucrats that can come in and like sanction us if we don't play ball.
There's so much.
I mean, it would be a three-hour show if you just went through all the bureaucratic red tape that's in the W-Trade or the World Trade Organization.
So it's just a beautiful thing to see Trump finally going to bat, getting this deal across the finish line.
Europeans are coping.
They're seething.
Sorry, boys, maybe get a new negotiator, maybe read art of the deal.
I don't know what to tell you, but that ain't going to cut it from you guys.
But we're finally balling.
Trump's making America ball again.
That's kind of what I care about.
It's a beautiful thing.
I think the thing I love most about it is this reorientation of America's foreign policy inwards again, right?
It's prioritizing Americans on the global stage because you had this thing, especially like in the Obama years, this is where I grew up.
I grew up under the Obama years.
You had this thing where Obama would do these like apology tours where he'd go around the world and apologize for like anything America's ever done, good or bad.
And so when you grow, I grown up with America like constantly apologizing for everything and constantly prioritizing other nations and every single arrangement, international arrangement.
So seeing Trump come in here, I mean, I saw it in the first term, but now I'm being like an adult and seeing this, I mean, it's so sick to see this reorientation.
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We still have a lot, a lot to do.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
I mean, trade deals are great and all.
But this was from Senator Elisa Slotkin.
She's a senator from Michigan.
Here was her little spiel on the floor.
I'll give you guys a listen.
Check this out.
elissa slotkin ▲ ● ▼
There is nothing more foundational to the American dream than having a home of your own.
It is as fundamental to us as Americans as apple pie.
Right now, the average age of our first-time homeowner in America is 40 years old, completely different than in generations before us.
This is not a good story.
Today, we could declare in this body a housing state of emergency.
We need 4 million units of housing built in our country.
That's a national strategy, yes, but I want Michigan to be ground zero for responding to the urgency of that.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
Okay, so on paper, it sounds like it makes sense, right?
We need more homes.
We have a shortage.
She said 4 million homes.
You keep seeing headlines like this, Unusual Whales, which is like a black pillar repository.
In the San Francisco Bay Area, specifically in counties like San Francisco, Marin, and Santa Clara, individuals earning up to $111,000 annually are now considered low income and qualify for certain affordable housing programs.
So, okay, obviously Americans are feeling the pinch, right?
Housing is a nightmare.
I'm under no impression that I'm going to buy a house anytime soon.
And this is kind of the thing.
This is the tension.
This is the weight that's on American shoulders is this feeling of like, I'm just working for nothing.
Like I'm just working to maybe accumulate enough capital to like go out to eat.
I mean, that's kind of the reality for the majority of Americans.
Nothing feels real.
Nothing feels tangible.
Nothing feels grounded.
And like the home is the archetypical example of your legacy, right?
Your groundedness.
I own this property.
This piece of land is mine.
And so the psychological effect that this has on Americans cannot be understated.
But the question is why?
I mean, why is there such a shortage of homes?
We see article after article that the birth rate is, we're below replacement in the United States.
So if we have a shortage of people, if we're declining, if the actual sheer number of Americans is declining, then what gives?
Why do we not have any homes?
Well, it wouldn't come as much of a surprise, but we have a lot of people in the country that aren't Americans that we're competing with.
This is from the Center for Immigration Studies.
The government's January 2025 population survey shows that the foreign-born or immigrant populations, which is legal and illegal, hit 15.3 million.
So that's legal, foreign-born.
Which is 15.8% of the total U.S. population.
So that's foreign-born, legal, and illegal combined.
So 53 million people that Native born Americans are competing with for housing, for jobs, et cetera, et cetera.
And you have to ask yourself, like, 15% of the country has shown up, you know, from elsewhere in the world.
And we're short 4 million homes.
I mean, it's just a math problem.
And you really have to ask yourself, what is this for?
You see articles like this from the Wall Street Journal.
Investors are sweeping in the market.
I mean, it's so on the nose.
Blackstone, Starwood Capital.
You have these banker creeps just swirling.
This is the chart that jumped out to me.
Percentage of single-family home purchasers by investments monthly.
Look at this.
Investors with multiple properties.
I mean, like, what are we doing here?
25 of these home purchases are small investors and large investors account for 5% on average.
I mean, home prices are through the roof.
And so it makes sense that the only people that can purchase these are these big companies.
So if you're a young family, if you're a young person, you get married and you're trying to get in the game, you're competing with 50 million foreigners.
And now you're competing with like the all-star team of evil and these creeps over on Wall Street that are coming in and buying up these single-family homes.
I mean, it's like how, you don't even have a shot.
It's ridiculous.
And so the free market is completely broken because of these incentives.
Like we're competing against the world.
We saw this H-1B situation really escalate was around Christmas 2024.
Elon crashed out.
That was pretty wild to see.
We're seeing like another, we're seeing another, they're using the same playbook.
So Nathan Halberstead of New Founding, they're a conservative VC fund.
He posted this email that he got.
Offshore talent for New Founding.
Hi, I'm reaching out because we're placing professionals who've studied and worked in the U.S., top schools like NYU or Columbia, that are now back in India, but working your hours.
This approach ensures that you get top-tier, culturally attuned talent at a fraction of the cost that you would otherwise pay in Dallas.
This is evil.
This is absolutely evil.
We're getting completely undercut.
And this is the thing is people are using this.
Nathan was just one of the few guys that actually called it out.
I mean, people all around the country are totally, they're taking this.
It's like, what?
I can increase my margins.
This is a no-brainer.
And they're selling us out.
We saw JD Vance talking about how Microsoft, they laid off like 10,000 workers and then they're firing up the H1V machine.
They want to bring in as many Indian coders as possible.
It's just, if you're a young person in this country, you really get the feeling that your inheritance is being stolen or it's already been stolen.
It's right in front of you.
You can't buy a house.
You can't get a job.
I mean, I hate to complain, but when you got, this is the guy that emailed him, Akshat.
I think it was his name, Akshat Biani.
Don't you stand for American values?
I thought free markets is one of them.
Care to explain why this is different?
Highest quality work at the lowest prices always wins.
That's what we do.
So this is this game that these people play.
These guys are total slime balls.
They play this game where they dress up something that's evil and they dress it up in like somewhat conservative sounding language, language that you would have heard growing up, which is like free markets.
This is a great thing.
Free markets, don't you love free markets?
Oh, you're against a million Indians coming in and undercutting you and taking your jobs?
What are you against the free market?
Maybe just you should work for $10,000 a year.
I mean, that's, that's, but they're dressing this up in this cutesy free market language.
It's a total bait and switch.
And then sometimes they just let the mask slip.
So then he deleted this tweet.
Nathan was crashing out.
He was going back and forth with Oxhot.
Oxhot says, if slave labor can do better than your friends, they deserve to be out of their job.
So like he drops, he drops the pretense right away of, oh, we're, you know, it's a free market.
This is just, we're the best, right?
We work hard and we don't work for much.
And then there's like mask off.
Actually, it's we're slave labor.
We're importing slave labor.
It's just so gross.
And then here's an example.
If you think that this isn't happening, this is happening all the time.
This is a New York City firm, $150,000 American job, and they just hot swap them for a guy from India.
The agency secured a top-tier marketing director for $23,000 a year, representing potential savings of over $100,000 annually compared to local rates.
So it's just like, how am I supposed to compete?
The agreement, if you're an American citizen, is you're competing with other Americans.
If I'm competing with the entire world, what is the point of being an American citizen?
If I'm having to compete with India for every single job, because that's kind of the future, if these people have their way, what exactly is the point of being an American?
What I can vote?
I mean, yeah, that's great.
Awesome.
What else?
Is there any other benefit?
Or is America just this giant economics?
I mean, America really is starting to feel just like a giant shopping mall.
Very rarely do you meet anybody that actually has genuine appreciation
for american history that has a understanding of american culture and values beyond like football and um beer i mean that's kind of what everything's being reduced down to um it it's it's really sad stuff and and young people are not reacting well this was from cbs cbs news um u.s birth rate hits all-time low cdc data says shows uh the fertility rate in the u.s dropped to an all-time
low in 2024 with fewer than 1.6 children being born per woman that's a good rate for the for the first world that's the craziest part because 1.6 is actually like not too bad compared to what's going on elsewhere now granted the birth rate is dropping all across the world and that's again that would tim's talked at length about this um but part of the contributing factor for why this is happening is stories like that stories where if you're growing up
and you're not even assured a house, you're competing against the entire world or in these massive corporations, you can't get a job because you're competing with the entire third world.
I mean, how are you expected to bring a kid into the world?
Are you just going to wing it?
Are you just going to hope for the best?
It's a total disaster.
And everything just, it feels fake.
Why would you, a lot of people are asking themselves, why would they want to bring a child into this world?
What are they going to inherit?
I mean, the inheritance is being robbed right before their very nose.
Bring a child in, they'll have American on their passport and that's it.
Because that's kind of the talking point from a lot of these people that are pushing for this mass migration stuff is like, oh, America just has this magic soil.
If you're born here, if you live here, you just magically become an American.
There's nothing more to it.
And they like divide the world between Americans and future Americans.
And that kind of rhetoric is going to demoralize your native population.
It's going to completely demoralize Americans.
And we're seeing this with the birth rate and we're seeing this with other things.
You're seeing alcoholism, suicide rates skyrocketing.
Everything feels fake.
Everything feels insincere.
Everything feels plastic.
I mean, people are just kind of throwing their hands up.
If you go and you travel around the country and you see these new construction versus old construction.
I mean, like if you go through any old, old city or town in America, you can see these beautiful stone buildings with this really ornate architecture that really reflects the local culture, reflects the values of the civilization.
And then you see the kind of garbage they're throwing up now.
It looks like, you know, it looks like an airplane hanger or something.
I mean, it's like totally abhorrent and they're putting it right in the downtowns of America.
And the ceiling tiles are like whatever that, it's synthetic, foamy, weird crap.
What do they call it?
Tile?
Tile roof?
I don't know.
Above my pay grade.
And the walls are fake.
There's no wood anywhere.
There's no stone anywhere.
Like everything is just fake.
It's plastic.
It's like the worst experience ever.
It's completely demoralizing and people really are feeling the pinch.
So anyway, I digress.
Tucker Carlson's ranted a lot about this over the years.
But yeah, it's grim, grim stuff.
It just really feels like we're circling the drain as a country.
I hate to like get on here and blackpill because I'm not.
I'm actually optimistic about America's future.
I do think that Americans are great.
We will correct.
Trump's doing great work to correct this.
But the current trends are, it's really, really grim stuff.
You're seeing stories like this.
Wisconsin teens would still be alive if not for sanctuary policies protecting alleged drunk driving illegal immigrants.
This is from the New York Post.
Legal alien from Honduras faces deportation after allegedly driving while intoxicated, killing two teenagers in Dane County, Wisconsin.
Haley Heggelson and Brady Haling had their whole lives ahead of them.
I'm not even going to read this, you know, psycho's name.
I killed them.
It's America.
This is America.
A promposal.
It doesn't get any more American than that.
It's a beautiful thing.
And these kids are taken away from us because of these ridiculous, ridiculous laws where it's just anti-American.
They hate Native Americans.
They hate people that are from here and have nowhere else to go.
DHS is on the case, unfortunately.
A little bit too late, but...
ICE has lodged a detainer against the 30-year-old that killed them.
They would still be here alive if it weren't for...
this illegal alien um she recklessly drove the wrong way on a highway and intoxicated and killed these two teens ice has lodged an arrest detainer to remove this public safety threat from the u.s unfortunately this sanctuary jurisdiction has a history of not honoring ice arrest detainers often leading to the release of murderers and other heinous criminals the only way this happens the only way that these sorts of laws are on the books is that the people that design them specifically want to see americans suffer from from trade to immigration to housing every
aspect of this doesn't make sense like numbers wise if you crunch the numbers it doesn't make sense the only way you can explain this is disdain and hatred for americans that's the only and this is happening across europe obviously too and and elsewhere i don't know how you i don't know how you explain this sanctuary jurisdiction so presumably i don't know maybe this media pressure they will turn this this lady over to to ice uh but these two kids should still be here
right so that This person should not have been here.
They're from Honduras.
What business does someone from Honduras have doing here?
We're Americans.
We got it.
We're good.
We went to the moon.
Let's lock it down.
I think Charlie Kirk and Matt Walsh and those guys, they have the correct take.
It's time to really ramp down the immigration.
It's getting a little crazy.
We're starting to feel a little estranged in our country here.
So I think those guys should be listened to.
Their warnings should be heated.
So we're going to wind down here this portion of the Rumble Live show.
We have an interview coming up, an interview portion with Wade Stotz.
He hosts the Wade with Wade show, or the Wade Show with Wade.
I might have it reversed with Canon Press.
You're in for a treat.
That interview is going to be up at 4 if you're watching this pre-recorded.
Otherwise, I just want to say thanks for hanging out.
We're going to get into this next interview portion.
So Timcast IRL at 8.
Maybe Tim will be back.
I don't actually know yet.
But yeah, thanks for watching.
All right.
Set this interview up with Wade Stott.
So I want to get into this.
This story has been everywhere.
Cincinnati Jazz Festival.
Oh, hang on.
You're on the right, quick.
Sorry, this is behind the scenes.
Anyway, here, I'll put that over.
Sorry.
Technical difficulties.
Where was it?
Oh, that's yesterday.
See, this is how it goes.
Sometimes there's issues.
All right.
Yeah, you're going to set it up.
Sorry, I got Producer Andrew in the cut.
We're working it out.
We're getting situated.
But yeah, Charlie Kirk, the new video shows that there was a third victim at the Cincinnati Jazz Festival.
So I don't know if you guys saw, or not yet.
Hang on one sec.
I don't know if you guys saw this story.
Cincinnati, there's this guy running around.
It was like a GTA server.
He was just like decking random people.
It was unbelievable stuff.
Elon's on it.
Zero stories.
It's true.
There's nothing out there.
Except for the post-millennial.
They had a great story.
Brutal mob attack in Cincinnati.
So I wanted to bring in Wade to talk about this.
You guys have probably seen this story so I can set it up real quick.
They're investigating a violent assault in the city's downtown area early Saturday morning where a man and a woman were attacked by a group, leaving the woman unconscious.
The incident captured in disturbing video.
It's gone viral.
I'll just show you a quick bid.
So they're just going around.
Just wailing on people for no reason.
This is happening over and over and over again.
And Americans are really starting to get a little fed up with this because it's like nothing ever really happens.
There's no reaction.
So yeah, I want to bring in Wade.
He's probably got some, he's probably got the correct take.
He tends to have the correct take.
So Wade, what's up?
Can you hear me?
wade stotts ▲ ● ▼
I can hear you.
Yes.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
Okay, cool.
wade stotts ▲ ● ▼
Thank you, Tate.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, before we get situated, do you want to give people a quick intro?
Who you are, what you do?
wade stotts ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, my name is Wade Stotz.
Wade Stotz on X. I do The Wade Show with Wade.
That's a weekly monologue sort of thing where I pick out something in the news and try to summarize it, try to do it in an entertaining way.
I also do a podcast over on Canon Plus.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
Cool.
That's my stuff.
Yeah, so we have this story out of Cincinnati.
It's all over the place.
You're seeing a mob just running through the town, whooping up on people that were otherwise mining their business.
I mean, sometimes you see these videos and there's this pretense where there was like a disagreement or a fight.
By all accounts, this looks like it was just an indiscriminate attack.
I played the video, but I don't know.
What's your takeaway on this whole story?
wade stotts ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, anytime you see these videos, you try to, my news brain tries to immediately try to figure out the context, right?
So we've seen, as a guy who's followed the news for years, we have seen violent altercations, we've seen arguments at sports games and tried to figure out, okay, what could have happened before this that would have made this make some sense or more sense?
And the reason that this one has held on as hard as it has, yes, because of the lack of coverage, but also because it's really hard to imagine anything that obviously nothing can make it make sense in a, you know, it's not a, it's not a good thing.
Nothing could ever make this turn out to be good.
But even to justify this kind of behavior or this kind of attack on these people, I think that one of the things that is so striking about this is that it's not just that people are watching this going, what happened in this particular scenario?
What they're wondering is they're watching this going, trying to make a calculation, trying to think, okay, so if I go to the Cincinnati Jazz Festival and let's say what happened was it sounded like there was some loud music playing and let's say somebody said, hey, turn down that music.
We're at a music festival.
I'm trying to hear and hear.
If that kind of altercates, you say the wrong thing, something gets off on the wrong foot, people are trying to make the calculation.
That's why they want to know, okay, am I going to get beaten or am I going to get filmed while beaten?
It makes sense that people are going to wonder those things, especially because, again, it was treated in such a way that like everybody standing around just thought it was some kind of show that they were there to watch.
And so it's not just people want to know the details or people want to figure out, it's not just a voyeuristic, I want to know what happened, but it's also people wanting to know, what can I do?
How can I treat my family well?
If I want to take my wife to a jazz festival, is that going to be a bridge too far?
Even if I say the wrong thing or if I drink too much and there's an altercation like that, is it going to maybe end my life in that sort of scenario?
As you were talking in the opening, there's enough of a social trust problem in America without dumping all these illegal immigrants going on and immigrants generally coming in.
But the social trust thing is a real deal.
And what people are trying to, again, calculate is how much can I count on normal, like, okay, so this stuff can happen at the margins, right?
So somebody can fly off the handle, knock somebody out, punch somebody.
As long as there's a relatively healthy culture around that ugliness, then people will jump in to help.
People will jump in to stop it, slow it down.
But if there's no, if you can't count on That, if you can't count on bystanders thinking, hey, this is now my responsibility to jump in, then yeah, it's an ugly thing.
So I think that's why people are focused so much on this and why people are, again, trying to find the logic.
If not, find the logic, then find what are my responsibilities after seeing this.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
Right.
I mean, that's what kind of stuck out to me.
It kind of encapsulates this feeling that a lot of Americans have, which is the streets are completely populated with a lot of people that have nothing to lose.
And that's a very, very scary thing.
And like you were hitting on, the social trust is, it's in the basement right now.
It's a total disaster.
And there's also, it's unfortunate this is the case, but there is this racial element to it as well, where it's a group of black people assaulting white couples and families.
That's always going to obviously animate the issue as well.
What is the, I mean, I was covering earlier in the story, we have the immigration is totally out of control.
Trump's finally, you know, stifling it.
Stephen Miller, Patriot.
He's stifling the flow.
And then you have this trade deal that Trump's trying to reel in.
He's trying to, you know, people have been cooking the books for a long time.
So Trump's actually addressing these issues on trade.
But we're making progress.
But stuff like this, I don't really know you fix at a federal level.
It's a social trust issue, like you said.
I mean, what have you identified?
Is there a way out of this?
Or are we just going to descend into Brazil or South Africa?
wade stotts ▲ ● ▼
Well, the good thing is that the local police have at least commented on this and said that it's a bad thing that it happened.
There's nobody in the administration or like local administration or anything like that, or even the statewide people, none of them have said, actually, this was a brave thing that happened or a good thing.
Everybody seems to be taking the right side, at least on the official capacity.
So that's good.
And I think that that means that there's, I don't know, it would be really bad if we were in a situation where everybody just automatically took the side of who they thought was, you know, like racially the problem or whatever, especially in the government capacity.
So yeah, I don't know if there is a political solution on this stuff.
Again, it's a social trust thing.
And there's, I mean, Russell Kirk said that men, like Rome descended as Romans descended.
So like there's this personal capacity to all of this is the social trust that drives the political direction and drives a lot of the, you know, whether something can hold together as a people.
And you can't ignore the racial element.
I think that would be, you know, I think that part of it is also that you have to wonder, okay, so again, I'm making a calculation.
Can I go to this festival?
All right, am I going to encounter people there who think it's okay to beat me for some for a reason that doesn't have to do with a so let's say I have an altercation and somebody thinks it's okay to go above and beyond just like, okay, let's say I deserve to get my lights knocked out, right?
I've done, I've done a terrible thing.
Somebody punches me and I deserved it.
If somebody goes above and beyond what I deserve, then yeah, again, I have to think, okay, what's going on in their head?
Why do they think that's okay?
Like I said, I don't want to do anything.
I don't want to say anything that necessarily would preclude me from serving on a jury, especially when this kind of thing just blows up and shows up in my face.
But again, it's hard not to see all these angles and try to, again, get to the bottom of it so that I can adjust my own behavior.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that's cool.
I mean, there is malicious ignorance.
Like you said, it's hard to ignore this element.
Well, the other side's maliciously ignoring it.
It was the deputy mayor came out and they were like, oh, it was an altercation between two adults.
That was the official line.
And you're sitting there like, I'm watching, like I said earlier, it's literally a GTA server come to life where some guy's just going around.
Probably has, I don't even know if he had a five-star warning or wanted level.
I think he was just going at it.
I don't even know.
Maybe a cheats enabled because I didn't see any police.
Grim, grim stuff.
And I'm sitting there and I'm like, okay, it is true that the police are addressing it, this sort of thing, but I don't want to live in a country where there has to be police everywhere at all times for me to like safely navigate downtown Cincinnati.
I mean, it's Cincinnati.
We're not talking about Baltimore or something.
So that's kind of the thing.
And if you're a young person, you're seeing this.
You're seeing your downtowns off limits.
And then I was hitting on it earlier.
I wonder if you had any thoughts on this is the social trust, the immigration, especially the illegal immigration is just dumping gasoline on the fire.
I was talking earlier about the housing market crunch, and we're thinking if we can deport however many illegal immigrants that are here, the estimate's like 14 million.
It's probably higher.
If we can free up that housing stock, I mean, do you think that people need to maybe feel a bit more like they have more skin in the game?
Do you think that would maybe improve things from a social trust perspective?
wade stotts ▲ ● ▼
I think so.
I mean, there's a reason that people might get annoyed and say, oh, these Trump people or the right wing right now is really focused on immigration and think that it's some kind of monomania.
But yeah, a lot of these downstream consequences are things that people just take for granted as, okay, well, I guess things have to get worse in this way.
It is amazing, actually, how many different things taking care of our immigration problem would solve.
So yes, I think like social trust would go a long way there.
And also slowing down immigration, slowing down legal immigration, taking care of the illegals, I think that there's a certain level of, I don't know who my neighbor is.
I don't know what is going on in their heads.
I don't know how to calculate whether, again, if I get in a bad situation, whether somebody's going to help me out or if they're going to pile on.
I mean, I glanced past this earlier, but again, if you watch this guy filming this altercation between two adults, the guy who's filming is yelling, oh, oh, oh.
And he does that for like three minutes straight.
And only at one point, I think to maybe make sure that his audience doesn't see him as a bad person, he says, help her up.
But it's after this woman's laying on the ground unconscious.
It's a horrible thing.
And so I go, okay, well, every like I've, we watch the movie Nightcrawler, right?
And so we watch Nightcrawler and we get disgusted at this kind of sleazy guy who tries to sell his clips to the news.
But if that's everybody, or if that's at least like a large percentage of people who are going to be like treating their phones as their personal night crawler machine and putting their, putting stuff on their, on their, like hoping they blow up because they get to witness somebody being beaten half to death, then yeah, again, that's, that's something that I, I, like, that's not a housing problem.
Uh, and I think that that, you know, so there are elements of this social trust that can be repaired by federal actions.
But yeah, there's a really ugly, again, but that's, that's just jumping in on top of a really ugly social trust problem that already exists.
So I don't, again, I don't think that that's necessarily a political thing or a political solution.
We can at least stop pouring gasoline on it.
unidentified
Yeah.
wade stotts ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
I mean, that's, that's kind of the thing we're seeing with the world starification of fight documentation where it's just like they're trying to develop a personal brand around someone, you know, getting beaten half to death.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
It's a horrible thing.
And it's sad.
That was the saddest part of the video was that no one seemed to want to intervene.
I don't know if it was fear or if it was just a lack of empathy.
It's a social trust thing.
I used to live in Queens, Queens, New York.
It's like half foreign born, and this is praised routinely by all the civic leaders.
They're like, this is this wonderful thing.
You can have an arepa and then have like Chinese food on the same day.
So they only talk about the food really when it comes to diversity.
They don't really talk about the downstream effects.
Because the downstream effect is like you hit on, if you don't know your neighbor, not only do you not know your neighbor, you don't know like how they evaluate the world.
You don't know much about their culture.
And the borough, at least, is filled to the brim.
And it's like, it's created this situation where no one speaks to each other because this reputation of New Yorkers are really rude.
I actually find that native New Yorkers are quite pleasant, but there is this general feeling of just disdain for strangers because you just don't know anything about them.
You don't know if they're going to stab you or what.
You don't know if anybody's going to intervene.
And I suspect, I think, a large reason is because you don't even know if the person speaks English, let alone if they're on the same page, you know, ethically.
So, yeah, I mean, that's kind of the thing for me is like, like you said, it's like, why is the GOP hammering so hard on immigration?
And I'm like, because these cities, you saw Los Angeles, I mean, the deportations haven't really even gotten to these insane numbers that we're expecting.
And people are already coming and glued there and rioting and flying foreign flags.
And I don't see how we're going to get out of that.
I mean, Trump just has to keep the foot on the gas.
And yeah, I don't know.
wade stotts ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
Well, and I think part of the tragedy of it is that we had it and we lost it.
So any place where there has been social trust that's eroded, then we're mourning it all the more.
So we only notice it because we had it before.
I mean, the whole sort of what's the sort of boxes where people will like set out their fruit or set out whatever potatoes that they're growing.
Honesty boxes.
So like the fact that honesty boxes have existed and have had to be taken down and some people are still trying to put some up to try to, again, test out, hey, if this works out, then we can make more money and I don't have to hire somebody who just runs this stand all the time.
Then everybody can kind of function in a better way.
The fact that that can still exist in part of our country is really great.
But the fact that broadly that stuff starts to go away, that's the tragedy that Americans are seeing.
There are some people who wouldn't notice it because they've never lived in a place that was like that, that had any kind of social trust.
And again, like New Yorkers, I think, probably have a few more barriers than sort of me growing up in Northeast Arkansas.
But I think that's, again, there are definite gradations of that.
I mean, Carl Benjamin talked about when he visited from the UK and visited West Virginia.
And he realized as he was talking to people, as he was interacting, that he had way more of a guard up than he should have and was actually being rude to people.
He found himself accidentally being rude.
And he said, I'm a good English boy.
You know, I grew up with manners.
I know what I'm supposed to do.
But he realizes that as social trust has eroded around him within his lifetime, that he was treating people in a way that he would never treat them normally.
And he felt bad about that.
And he wished that he could go back and be more open.
He sees himself as an open guy who has slowly had to kind of put walls up around himself as social trust has eroded around him.
I think that that's a sad thing to see.
And I think that Carl sees that.
But also, we don't want that here.
Again, he visited rural West Virginia.
That's a different sort of place.
But I'd like to be able to preserve that for people to not have to have their guard up.
Again, going to a jazz festival, just going downtown, taking their wife out for a dinner.
It's something that I think we can, you know, again, as people are committing crimes, we can punish crime.
And I think that if there's an attitude like that at the top, again, fixing things federally, that was the question you asked.
If there's an attitude like that at the top, I think it gives permission for local officials to act in that same way and know that they're not going to get a mob after them.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
Yeah, you are seeing like Orange County, California, like they are able to start cracking down on shoplifting more.
I think, yeah, like the primary reason for that is because they feel like the boots off their neck from the federal, from the federal government.
So that's going to pay dividends because, yeah, you go to these cities and you go to like Walgreens and you get to like get on your knees and beg for a stick of deodorant because they have it like locked down.
Like it's, I mean, it's the most ridiculous thing ever.
And then the people will come up, these shoplifters, they come with their garbage bag and they ring the bell and the guy will come unlock and give them the deodorant and then they just walk out with it.
So it's like it's only punishing people that are actually just trying to shop.
And then the craziest thing is the shoplifters still stink.
So it's like they're not even using the deodorant.
I don't know what they're doing with it.
I don't know.
Maybe they're eating it.
I don't know what the thing.
wade stotts ▲ ● ▼
Selling it out of their car.
Who knows?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I don't know.
Maybe there's this underground deodorant ring I don't know about.
I'm going to get involved in that.
You can get a roll-on for a good price.
But yeah, yeah.
So anyway, I mean, enough about the speed sticks.
One thing I'm noticing is it's coming along.
You're seeing Gen Z really becoming adults and interacting.
We're lacking a lot of conventional social skills that previous generations had.
And this is a huge topic that's going to be tough to cover in 15 minutes.
But I do think we're very neurotic Zoomers.
Gen Z, I'm a Zoomer, I'm 24.
I think we're a very neurotic generation, and I suspect, not even suspect, I think it's kind of obvious.
This does stem from the fact that you don't know who your neighbors are, you don't know anybody in your community, you don't know who your elected officials are.
There's the low trust society has completely one-shotted Zoomers.
What do you think this is going to look like?
Because boomers are still generally pretty trusting of the general public.
They typically give people a fair shake, and then this kind of dissent, this quality kind of disappears as you go down generations, right?
I think Gen Z is the first generation where this is completely gone, where they're just neurotic, distrustful, honestly, rightfully so as well.
What changes do you think we're going to see as this generation sort of starts taking hold?
wade stotts ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, I think another big piece of this before I talk about the changes going forward is the fact that two years at least of a lot of people's lives got taken away.
And so the closer to the formation of your personality that 2020 and 2021 and 2022 was, that has a huge impact on you.
So if you were planning, if your graduation, let's say your high school graduation got shut down because of this and all of your scholarship opportunities got ruined because of disease, that automatically puts a huge lack of social trust in you and goes, okay, well, everything I prepared for, everything that somebody told me was going to be my ticket out of here is not going to be there.
And not that Zoomers needed any help with that, because again, I think that broadly millennials trusted the promises of the boomers, that the boomers thought that they were like, okay, now we have attained, like, this is the end of history.
This is the way the world is going to work forever.
Millennials kind of believe those promises and Gen Z hasn't believed those promises at the same level.
But starting out from cynicism, yeah, it's a really ugly thing.
And I don't see, yeah, I think that there will be studies 100 years from now on the COVID kits and all the people who, and that's, you know, Gen Z onto Gen Alpha and where people were when that broke up their ability to speak or be able to see somebody, see somebody's mouth move when they're speaking, when people's faces are covered constantly.
Social interaction, again.
But there was a broad culture growing up as a millennial.
There's a broad culture of going out, seeing people, doing things.
And like concert venues have been shutting down.
Like Ticketmaster, again, people talk about Ticketmaster prices going up.
Also, there's a huge piece of that that is that nobody really wants to go to concerts anymore except for the uber wealthy or the people who can afford like paying these exorbitant prices.
There's a really strange and like, okay, well, if my dopamine hits are from a crowd, I at least know what it feels like to go and be a part of a crowd and have a good time, be it a 4th of July parade and let it go.
And somebody doesn't know that that's its own kind of rush and its own kind of excitement, then introducing that is saying you have to get past a lot of discomfort to be able to do something that, again, Americans have seen as normal for a long time.
So I don't think, I think that part of that is going to be people just taking responsibility for their own self.
But broadly, as far as a pattern goes, I don't see that going really anywhere great.
It's going to be really ugly when people are having to have relationships with people when their first relationship or their second relationship was with an AI or if they've had some kind of back and forth discussions with AI.
And again, there are people who are trying to do it right, but they're fighting a huge uphill battle.
And I feel for that.
But I think, you know, again, we both think that Trump is going to do good things that will have a positive impact on that.
But it's the kind of thing that can't just be from the top to make it a comfortable environment for that to happen.
Taking responsibility and going, hey, again, this sounds like a bootstrap sort of thing, but going like, hey, I also have to meet the standard now.
So it's not like, you know, nobody's going to have to, nobody's going to come chase me.
Like Trump isn't going to walk over and hand me the deed to a house.
There's something that I've got to do as well.
So I'm all for everything that can be done at a federal level and at a government level.
The cultural problems, yeah, Gen Z's been treated extremely poorly.
But I hope that as they're aging in to adulthood and trying to make those first few big steps, that yes, they have a comfortable environment for that, but also that they see, all right, no matter what, this is going to be a huge challenge and see that as something that's worth meeting.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I am finally starting to see some signs of life from Zoomers.
Like, I mean, my freshman year of college was when COVID hit.
So the time of my life when I guess matriculation should have occurred was virtually.
It was with masks on if I was lucky, but typically it was virtually.
So it was like everyone from that mic that from my age and younger has been this generation.
Because you're seeing the divide.
So there was, there was, I think it was Gallup at the polling.
There was actually like two Gen Zs as the 24 and up.
So my age and older and then my age and younger, those two generations.
And you see it politically, where the Zoomers that are like born basically before 2000, they're actually kind of in line with millennials, politically speaking, with a myriad of other traits.
And then the Zoomers that were born after 2000 are to the right of Genghis Khan or to the left of Karl Marx.
So you're seeing that, and it's like you said, I think it's that cynicism that came into play during COVID where it's like, okay, I don't know where I am politically.
I just know whatever this is needs to be destroyed.
And unfortunately, a lot of people are running to the left as well to address that issue.
But yeah, it does freak me out.
But it is, I'm starting to see some signs of life.
Like in my friend's circles, at least, I mean, I come from a religious community.
So there's a lot of Southern Baptists, but they're getting married.
They're having kids.
It's starting to happen.
There are some signs of life.
But it's anecdotes.
If you look at the general numbers, things aren't looking too hot.
There's a lot of struggle.
It's this interesting thing when the baby boomers die off, right?
Because you're seeing stories of how there's a power plant, there's a power plant somewhere, and it's being propped up almost entirely by three baby boomers.
So the baby boomers get a lot of flack for a lot of things.
And a lot of it's pretty fair.
But one thing that does need to be said is what's going to happen when they die to a lot of these institutions that are solely propped up by baby boomers?
It's a really, really horrifying thought.
I mean, I don't know if you've thought about this much.
wade stotts ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, the boomer succession problem is a big deal.
And I think that that's, I mean, I saw a chart the other day that was like the percentage of congressmen or Congress human beings who are above the age of 70 has just skyrocketed.
And like we've, we're seeing something that, again, people aren't getting these things passed down to them.
It's also striking.
I mean, you look at even on our side, you see, well, you've got Trump, who is a boomer, and then who's his successor?
You've got JD Vance, or at least like, that's how people see him as a successor.
And so like there are a whole generation, like the Gen X at some level got skipped in terms of being able to pass things down.
And so when the boomer generation is having to pass things down, broadly speaking, it's skipping a generation and is only happening when it has to, which I think is not good for Gen X and not good for the millennials who end up just getting handed this stuff, maybe before they're ready.
Who knows?
I mean, I hope that, you know, like I love J.D. Vance.
I'll sign on for whatever he has coming up.
But the fact that that leadership has had to skip a generation is not a good thing.
But my hope is, again, that all these people will get on board and recognize, hey, it is interesting, yeah, that the cynical generations, that's the generation that gets skipped for power.
So Gen X being the cynical generation doesn't get a president, at least as far as we can tell.
So yeah, it's a problem generally, but there are places where it's happening.
And again, I'm also in a religious community and the passing of the torch is happening at a different rate and in a different way because people recognize, again, the people coming after have to be equipped.
So yeah, I don't see a broad solution to that other than, okay, people who have these institutions being able to pass down before they have to, before they're forced to, is something that can be done.
But it's difficult.
Like succession is inherently difficult.
If you've done something that you're proud of, if you've done something that you think is really great, being able to hand that off to anybody is a daunting task.
And so broadly, the boomer generation didn't do that.
But my hope is that we can get better at that because we're going to be in a way better place broadly.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, that's good.
And that's a great point.
I mean, Gen X really got shafted because like, well, that's kind of their fault, though, because every song they wrote like in the 80s and 90s was about like fighting and partying and stuff.
So like fight for your right to party.
I don't know.
Maybe you should have fought for your right for like election, like the, you know, elections.
wade stotts ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
I don't know, spitballing.
But yeah, it's really, really sad stuff.
They're just really into nickelback and like Corvettes and stuff, and they forgot to like run for office.
So I don't know.
It's kind of on the street.
And I'm sorry, I love Gen X. I have Gen X parents.
They're awesome.
But yeah, yeah, the boomer thing, the generational passing of the torch, it's really scary stuff.
Imagining Zoomers being in charge of these things.
unidentified
Yeah.
wade stotts ▲ ● ▼
Well, being a millennial, I'm also, I'm scared of millennials getting in charge of this stuff.
I mean, oh, dude.
We're going to need Star Wars meming.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
Yeah.
It's so gross.
We're going tofu, like mandatory tofu.
Yeah, I'm not ready for that.
But I don't know.
wade stotts ▲ ● ▼
JD Vance.
If JD Vance is remembered as our guy, you know, like the head of the Millennials, I think we're going to be okay.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, you're set.
wade stotts ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
I mean, yeah, Millennials, they kind of get a hard, they get a hard time, but there's some pretty baselines.
I think Stephen Miller is a millennial, too.
unidentified
Okay.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
I think Stephen Miller.
Yeah, he's goaded.
Yeah, so I don't know the way I do agree.
Like, you are seeing anecdotally in some of these circles that things are moving as you would expect them to, like, you know, over the grand course of history.
And Tim actually talks about this a lot is this will actually play into the hands of the birth rate dropping.
We'll actually play into the hands of conservatives because they're the ones that are having children and, you know, raising these children up.
And they will also be conservatives and Christians, presumably.
So I think there actually is a situation where we'll have some growing pains for like 20, 30 years, but right now they're infants, they're in diapers.
But the people right now that are under 10 years old, it's probably actually a pretty conservative generation.
Even with the waves of immigration, there's just, you're seeing these conservative families and they're popping out kids like, you know, like Pez dispensers.
So it's a really beautiful thing.
wade stotts ▲ ● ▼
Well, and yeah, that's the Dana White point where he talked about like if you kids are going to be at if you're at any level a monster, if you're like competent at anything, you're going to way outshine the sort of iPad kids and you're going to be leading the world.
Yeah, if you have any capability, if you can speak in front of people and if you can think through things clearly, you're an alien to most of your generation.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, if you like don't have an interest in buying a Laboo Boo, or I guess in your case, a Funko Pop, then you probably have a decent chance of being in the next admin.
So it's a good.
I kind of want to leave you.
With the Trump agenda, people are starting to blackpool a little bit.
The Epstein stuff's really getting to people.
How are you feeling with the Trump?
Do you have any serious gripes?
I mean, what's your general assessment so far?
What's your grade?
wade stotts ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, on the Epstein stuff, I think the rollout was not as good as it could have been, again, from my perspective, from the outside.
But I think that recognizing that the Russia gate thing is a bigger dragon, I think is a good thing for them to see.
So I think, like I said, the Epstein rollout, I think, could have been improved.
I have my complaints about that.
But I'm glad that if it's a deep state thing, if the question is, is Trump addressing the deep state problems?
Something that the news, that every single news organization was forced to talk about for two years at least, is something that we should also see as a big deal.
And it's personal to Trump.
It's obviously closer to his heart.
So I recognize that there are things, again, that I would do differently, but that's me.
I'm just a guy in a bunker in Idaho.
But I think that, yeah, I'm extremely pleased.
I love the direction.
I think that a lot Of the fact that the left is as upset as they are is great.
And I think that Trump should just see that as a permission slip to do more.
Because if they're going to give him 110% every single, like if they do one deportation, then hey, you know, why not do 100,000?
So, and I also recognize, hey, there's a huge jump going from zero deportations, which is what we're seeing, to going to thousands of deportations, which like, I think that's a positive thing.
I think self-deportations can be a big deal.
A lot of my answers are going to be about immigration because that's, again, I see that as a huge, having huge downstream consequences.
But I'm pleased with that.
I think that as they stay, we talked about Stephen Miller, as they stay on that train, as they stay on that thing, I think they're going to be okay.
There are plenty of, since January, since January 20th, there has been constant prediction of the end of MAGA and the end of Trump and, oh, it's finally time to end.
This is all going to explode.
And one of those things was the tariffs.
And people said, oh, the tariffs are going to blow up MAGA.
Elon jumping ship is going to blow up MA.
I haven't seen that happen, and I don't think that it's going to.
So I'm much more of a plan truster this time around than I was back in 2016 and on.
But I was a plan truster at that point, but I still have my doubts.
But President Trump, loyalty to President Donald Trump is number one.
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Dude, well, this is great, Wade.
Do you want to give a quick shout out?
We got to wrap up here, but yeah, quick shout-out to anything.
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Well, follow me on WadeStots on X, and yeah, we'll have a good time.
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Dude, let's do it.
Well, appreciate it, Wade.
Talk to you later.
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Thank you.
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All righty, gents and gentle women.
Thanks for joining me on the Tim, Tim Pool noon live rumble show.
That's a great time.
I think we're going to do a raid here.
I think we're raiding, are we raiding, I think Russell Bran, I believe, is up next.
I probably should have done my homework on that.
Apologies, everyone.
Yeah, yeah.
Thanks to Wade.
It was a great show.
We got a lot covered, hit a lot of topics.
We're going to leave you with that.
We got some just MAGA Patriots all in chat.
I love looking at chat and just seeing all these Patriots.
So we're getting that raid ready to go.
Yeah, buy tickets for Culture.
That's the pressing thing.
August 2nd, August 9th, get your tickets.
It's going to be baller.
So yeah, we're sending you over to Russell right now.
Let's see, raid.
Bang.
Look at that.
Dude, we got producer Andrew in the cut.
Shout out producer Andrew.
Go give him a follow.
It's kind of making me mad that he doesn't have like a million followers.
It actually makes me furious.
So yeah, thanks for watching.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at Realtate Brown.
Go follow me there.
Hopefully Tim will be back for Timcast IRL.
If not, we'll maybe be Philcast.
Who knows?
But it's going to be a great thing.
So yeah, thanks for hanging out.
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