July 24, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show
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| The Department of Justice has launched a strike force to go after Barack Obama for claims of treason. | ||
| And I don't know, man. | ||
| Let me ask you guys right now. | ||
| You can comment below. | ||
| We'll get things kicked off. | ||
| With Donald Trump accusing Barack Obama of treason. | ||
| Now, Tulsi Gabbard has released documents, which shows Barack Obama ordered the release of intelligence that they knew to be false in an effort to launch the Russiagate hoax against Donald Trump, which ultimately bogged down his first term and was used as evidence against him to impeach him. | ||
| Not to mention everything else that happened afterwards. | ||
| You got that going on, and then you got the Democrats, mainstream press accusing Donald Trump of being in the Epstein files. | ||
| Maybe he is. | ||
| So what do we call this? | ||
| What do we call this historically unprecedented time? | ||
| Guys, come on. | ||
| There were two assassination attempts on Donald Trump. | ||
| There was a third plot. | ||
| A bullet whisked past him, striking him in the ear. | ||
| I shouldn't say whispered past him, hit him in the head. | ||
| And only by the grace of God did he turn his head. | ||
| Another man lost his life. | ||
| Then you had a crazy guy show up at his golf course. | ||
| I don't know how people haven't pieced this all together and aren't quite concerned. | ||
| But the reality is humans adapt. | ||
| It's what we do. | ||
| We are desensitized to the true nature of what we are currently experiencing. | ||
| That is, the two pinnacles of authority and power in the political system, that is the United States, are accusing each other of the highest of crimes. | ||
| Trump, a trafficking pedo, and Obama, a treasonist, seditionist, whatever you're going to call it, I guess. | ||
| Now, with this strike force investigation, some are saying we don't take this seriously. | ||
| What does this really mean? | ||
| And then there's the nothing ever happens crowd. | ||
| Well, apparently Clapper is saying he's already lawyered up, planning to be taken to court and run over the Coles. | ||
| There's an investigation into Brennan Clapper Comey, and now a strike force against Barack Obama himself. | ||
| But will this actually muster up anything? | ||
| Well, I can tell you this. | ||
| Right now, Democrats have all-time low approval ratings. | ||
| It's pretty massive. | ||
| But the MAGA base is fairly split. | ||
| A lot of people are saying, stop. | ||
| I don't care about the Epstein stuff anymore. | ||
| Others are saying, stop defending Trump. | ||
| He's with Epstein. | ||
| Me? | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Show me the proof. | ||
| I want the Epstein files. | ||
| But it does seem like everything is kind of imploding. | ||
| So we're going to be talking about this, all of this big issue, and of course, civil war. | ||
| We have to, right? | ||
| Because I have questions for you guys as to, again, what it means that we're seeing these power structures. | ||
| It cannot politically escalate any further than a sitting president being accused of being a cohort or an accomplice to a child jefficking ring and of a past president being a treasonous seditionist who tried to overthrow the country. | ||
| I don't know where you escalate politically. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe I'm crazy. | ||
| Maybe people just give me tens of times and it just falls away. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| But I think Gen Z is going to lose their mind. | ||
| We'll talk about that. | ||
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| Let's get into the news from the post-millennial. | ||
| The Department of Justice announced Wednesday the formation of a strike force. | ||
| This is why I can't take them seriously. | ||
| Strike force. | ||
| To review and investigate allegations raised by DNI Tulsi Gabbard regarding the alleged weaponization of the U.S. Intel community. | ||
| The DOJ did not specify what allegations it would be investigating. | ||
| Of course, the allegations that Tulsi Gabbard put forward was of treasonous conspiracy and a years-long coup. | ||
| However, the move follows Gabbert's claim that Obama orchestrated a years-long coup against the American public by directing the creation of a fake intelligence report alleging Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. | ||
| The evidence that we have found and that we have released directly points to President Obama leading the manufacturing of this intelligence assessment, Gabbert said in a White House briefing. | ||
| When asked by a reporter whether she believed the evidence pointed to criminal wrongdoing, she said, we have referred and will continue to refer all of these documents to the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate the criminal implications of this. | ||
| Even for President Obama, a reporter asked, correct, Gabbard replied. | ||
| The evidence that we have found and that we have released directly point to Obama leading the manufacturing of this intelligence assessment. | ||
| There are multiple pieces of evidence and intelligence that confirm that fact. | ||
| You know, I really, I got to pull this up because let me, how did, how did, let's see, I think it's this one right here. | ||
| You know, I'll just keep the files pulled up indefinitely, but we've got them right here. | ||
| I believe this is the report. | ||
| Shot at 800,000 times. | ||
| We're going to need this one because CNN, of course, is lying again, the liberals. | ||
| It's what they do. | ||
| Listen, I don't know if there's going to be any criminal charges. | ||
| I don't know if we should take these individuals seriously. | ||
| I don't know if we should take Tulsi Gabbard seriously. | ||
| Okay? | ||
| Honestly, I have no idea. | ||
| What I can say is we've got documents that show all of this. | ||
| And we can make those assessments ourselves. | ||
| For CNN to come out and act like they have no idea what's going on is laughably absurd. | ||
| Attorney General Pam Bondi, responding to the formation of the strike force, said the DOJ will take the matter seriously. | ||
| Department of Justice is proud to work with my friend, Director Gabbard, and we are grateful for her partnership in delivering accountability for the American people. | ||
| We will investigate these troubling disclosures fully and leave no stone unturned to deliver justice. | ||
| Well, what do you think happened on CNN? | ||
| We got a video for you guys. | ||
| Before we play this video, though, shout out to Steven Crowder and the Mug Club. | ||
| I see the raid. | ||
| Thank you guys so much for joining us in this Rumble morning lineup. | ||
| I am your host, Tim Poole. | ||
| You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. | ||
| And once again, shout out to Steven Crowder. | ||
| But let's play this clip. | ||
| Mediaite, they say CNN anchor catches Trump defenders flat-footed trying to explain Obama conspiracy. | ||
| As a quick side note, there was breaking news. | ||
| You can see at the top of the screen, and I would be remiss if I did not point this out. | ||
| Rest in peace, Hulk Hogan. | ||
| You are a legend. | ||
| You will be a legend forever. | ||
| And it's sad news, but let's play the video. | ||
| Here's the scandal. | ||
| Oh, do tell. | ||
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No votes. | |
| You just said, and I think you're right. | ||
| Maybe they tried. | ||
| It had no impact on the election. | ||
| The scandal is this, that high-ranking Democrats abused their intelligence positions to try to convince half the American people and one entire political party that Russia stole the 2016 election. | ||
| And they succeeded. | ||
| Today, it is an article of faith among Democrats. | ||
| How did they scandalize? | ||
| I think, Scott, you have to actually back that up. | ||
| How did they do that, in your opinion? | ||
| I mean, you're alleging that there was a conspiracy led by Obama to say that Russia changed the votes, which they did not say. | ||
| So what are you talking about exactly? | ||
| I'm telling you that the program was this. | ||
| They were shocked that Donald Trump won the election. | ||
| They couldn't believe it. | ||
| And so these people, I don't know who is responsible for it ultimately, but it deserves investigation. | ||
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Wait a minute. | |
| Just a minute ago, you were saying the lawsuit. | ||
| But why don't you let me finish? | ||
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These people wanted the American people to believe that it was an illegitimate. | |
| Don't be Obama deep. | ||
| This was the point. | ||
| Don't you have a deep state? | ||
| Multiple officials. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| Yes, yes, no. | ||
| So what about, what about, I would argue that Democrats are really, I like Scott Jennings. | ||
| Scott, did you read the report? | ||
| No disrespect. | ||
| I wish we had a more articulate and simple response, but I give you this now. | ||
| Let me just speak for Scott as this question of what happened. | ||
| Barack Obama ordered the director of the CIA, Brennan, to release information they knew to be false. | ||
| Thank you and have a nice day. | ||
| Oh, you want me to elaborate? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Barack Obama, the sitting president, ordered Brennan, the director of the CIA, to release intelligence they knew to be false, purposefully to smear Donald Trump as someone who colluded with the Russians or to delegitimize his presidency as a shill of the Russians, and the Russians have compromat on him. | ||
| And then they launched the Mueller probe. | ||
| And for years, we were bogged down and President Trump was undermined, ultimately leading to the Ukraine impeachment when Donald Trump was accusing Joe Biden of a quid pro quo and the Democrats used this whole Russian stooge angle to claim that Donald Trump's entire efforts in preventing war in Ukraine was because he was working for the Russians. | ||
| Okay, now let me just give you the evidence. | ||
| Here's the document. | ||
| I'm going to scroll all the way to the bottom, just so you guys see. | ||
| Acting on President Obama's orders, DCIA Brennan directed a full review and publication of raw human intelligence information that had been collected before the election. | ||
| CIA officers said that some of this information had been held on the orders of DCIA, while other reporting had been judged by experienced CIA officers to have not met long-standing publication standards. | ||
| Let's be really light about it. | ||
| Acting on the advice of the CIA, they would not have published this. | ||
| They said, it's raw intelligence. | ||
| It's a sentence fragment. | ||
| We don't know exactly what that fragment meant. | ||
| This should not be published. | ||
| It does not meet our standards. | ||
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And Obama went, publish it anyway. | |
| Publish it anyway. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The intention was, this is, I'll put it this way. | ||
| If you want to be as light about it as possible, we can say that this is the one time for some reason Barack Obama decided we should publish raw intelligence with no corroboration. | ||
| Yeah, nobody's buying that. | ||
| The reality is there's already reports that Obama had secret meetings with Comey and Yates and Brennan and others discussing how they were going to release this damaging information against Donald Trump. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because, well, let me lay it out for all of you guys. | ||
| The conspiracy seems to be that Hillary Clinton to the Clinton Foundation was receiving hundreds of millions of dollars from foreign sources to her nonprofit indirectly. | ||
| That she, as Secretary of State in the Obama administration, could basically make promises. | ||
| And then, so long as you donate to my charity, those promises will be carried out. | ||
| There's a great article that I'd like to pull up for you. | ||
| It's called Biden Inc. | ||
| from Politico, which exemplifies this from 2019. | ||
| This is mainstream media, baby. | ||
| They say, over his decades in office, middle-class Joe's family fortunes have closely tracked his political career. | ||
| And they have this great timeline, in fact, where they point out when Joe Biden gets assigned to oversee Ukraine, his son appears on the board of Barisma. | ||
| When he gets assigned to oversee the Iraq conflict, his brother gets a bunch of lucrative contracts. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is anyone really surprised there'd be 10% for the big guy? | ||
| How about all that? | ||
| Loans flying on Air Force 2. | ||
| So, the conspiracy appears to be this. | ||
| The Obama administration was corrupt as corrupt could be. | ||
| And maybe all of the past administrations were doing comparable things. | ||
| Hey, how about Halliburton and their contracts overseas and Dick Cheney being the VP? | ||
| Was it possible that these people were simply saying, this is the game? | ||
| It's what we do. | ||
| Why would Trump try to disrupt that? | ||
| Because Trump has scruples and is saying, no, the American people should not be subject to your criminal affairs. | ||
| So it would seem Hillary Clinton, at least according to the conspiracies, right, had been taking money from foreign sources to the Clinton Foundation or the Clinton Global Initiative, whichever, and had a private server. | ||
| Some believe that private server was being used to store illicit communications pertaining to how she would receive these payments. | ||
| Hence, she had a server in her home to handle emails. | ||
| How many of you, let me ask you guys, how many of you out there run your own servers for your email? | ||
| None of you? | ||
| I'm sure there's a couple guys who work in IT and they're like, no, I got a home server, you know, with server rackup. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Most people don't. | ||
| And if you're working in government, you're using your .gov. | ||
| Those servers are stored somewhere in White House or IT or whatever. | ||
| Then, when she was subpoenaed to turn over that server, what did she do? | ||
| She destroyed it and had her staff smash their phones with hammers. | ||
| So, it appears that Donald Trump said, we're going to have you arrested for this. | ||
| The Biden administration said, we have to preempt Donald Trump. | ||
| Let's accuse him of something high treason, perhaps. | ||
| Trump has been accused of treason going on almost 10 years now. | ||
| Pretty remarkable. | ||
| Let's roll the rest of this cacophony clip from CNN. | ||
| Democrats are really having a heyday with the Epstein scandal instead of focusing on the things that matter like inflation and even the Medicaid reform if they really want to go there. | ||
| But I think we're getting a little confused about what this Russia bombshell actually is. | ||
| It's saying it's, well, actually, it is. | ||
| It's showing that Obama was indeed the architect of the Russian collusion books because he fed fake intelligence to the media, which served as the basis for multiple state colleagues. | ||
| What exactly was he the architect of? | ||
| His officials gave the assessment to the media that was derived from what they were doing. | ||
| What did the assessment do? | ||
| What did the assessment say? | ||
| The Steele Dossi. | ||
| What did the assessment say? | ||
| The IC assessment, what did it say? | ||
| It said that the information was dubious at best, that it was raw intelligence, and under the advice of several CIA, they would not publish this as it violates their long-standing standards for publication. | ||
| However, Barack Obama ordered it to be released anyway. | ||
| In what circumstance have we seen presidents be like, We got half a sentence. | ||
| Let's publish it and claim it's true. | ||
| Assessment was derived from the Steele dossier, which said that what did it actually say? | ||
| Not what is it derived from. | ||
| What did it actually say? | ||
| What was the conclusion of the IC assessment? | ||
| I'm not going to. | ||
| The IC assessment was that they did not have evidence that Russia wanted Donald Trump to win the election. | ||
| There was a sentence fragment that was described as being read five different ways by five different people. | ||
| Again, a sentence fragment that read, and I'm paraphrasing, something to the effect of, and thus, with Hillary being ill, Vladimir Putin would expect Donald Trump to win or something to that effect. | ||
| And they don't know exactly what the sentence was meant to be. | ||
| Were they saying that Hillary would be, they think Trump's going to win because Hillary's sick? | ||
| Were they saying that Putin wants Trump to win because Hillary's sick? | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| We don't. | ||
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The conclusion was that the Russians tried to meddle in the elections, that they had done all sorts of things, but that there was no evidence that they had changed things, that they changed the votes. | |
| That is not what it said. | ||
| But also, this is how they changed the argument. | ||
| This document released by Tulsi Gabbard, that is the bombshell, has nothing to do with changing votes or influence operations or anything like that. | ||
| This is the intelligence community assessment. | ||
| Now, what she's doing, it's clever really when you're a sophist and a manipulator. | ||
| What this woman, Abby Phillip, is doing is asking you about the assessment from 2016 when we're talking about the bombshell assessment from 2020. | ||
| So when this, who is this, I'm not familiar with this woman, Carolyn Downey, no disrespect. | ||
| When she says the assessment says, Abby was, no, no, what does it say? | ||
| Because Abby is talking, so you need to say, are you referring to the 2016 ICA assessment or the 2020? | ||
| Because the 2020 said that the intelligence they got was raw and incomplete and did not meet standards for publication, but Obama ordered them to release it anyway, indicating, based on what we already know, that this was a political maneuver by Barack Obama. | ||
| Now, Trump calls it treason, saying this proves he orchestrated it. | ||
| I would say it's limited evidence. | ||
| The ordering of this, combined with this evidence of Obama ordering it, combined with what we know about the impeachment process, the investigations, and everything they've done to Trump since then, I believe does prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Barack Obama ordered these actions against Donald Trump to usurp power from the American people as they did not expect Donald Trump to win. | ||
| So anyway, moving on. | ||
| Deep state dirtbag James Clapper tells CNN's Caitlin Collins he has already lawyered up. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| When the director says that she's referred these filings to the Justice Department for a criminal investigation, tonight we're told they formed what is called a strike force. | ||
| Do you have concerns that they will attempt to prosecute you? | ||
| Well, certainly I do. | ||
| You know, after eight and a half years of this, and I don't know of an intelligence product that was more scrutinized, more investigated than that product was by numerous people. | ||
| You know, it's very disconcerting. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| And I take seriously when the President of the United States accuses me of being a participant in a treasonous conspiracy, which is ridiculous. | ||
| Yeah, what's your reaction to that? | ||
| It's always that, huh? | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| It just is. | ||
| It's ridiculous, you say. | ||
| So what will you do if they come after you? | ||
| What is your plan? | ||
| Well, I'll lawyer up, I suppose. | ||
| Already have. | ||
| You've already hired attorneys in case of, in anticipation that this Trump Justice Department could try to prosecute you. | ||
| We've had sort of perpetual attorneys since I left the government in 2017. | ||
| Former Director James Clapper, thank you for joining us tonight to respond to this. | ||
| Thanks, Steve, and for having me. | ||
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Appreciate it. | |
| Lawyer up. | ||
| You're going to need it, buddy. | ||
| Ooh, I love this story from 2016. | ||
| America's top spy, James Clapper. | ||
| I made a mistake, but I did not lie. | ||
| Oh, is that right? | ||
| Is this video? | ||
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Apple is refusing to follow a government order to hack the Senate. | |
| I don't care about Apple. | ||
| America's top intelligence official said that while he made a mistake when describing National Security Agency's domestic surveillance programs to Senate Committee, he maintains that he did not lie. | ||
| James Clapper, DNI, participated in a live Q ⁇ A, Tumblr, Tumblr, in which he fielded several questions. | ||
| Why did you lie about NSA surveillance in front of Congress? | ||
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Uh-oh. | |
| The questionnaire was presumably referring to a March 2013 public hearing in which Senator Ron Wyden asked Clapper, does the NSA collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans? | ||
| Clapper responded, no, sir, not wittingly. | ||
| There are cases where they could inadvertently perhaps collect. | ||
| Later, however, it was revealed that the NSA did conduct bulk collection of metadata, Americans' communications, permissible under the controversial Section 215 of the Patriot Act. | ||
| Clapper has apologized for clearly erroneous testimony. | ||
| Long story short, this guy's a crook. | ||
| He's been a crook for a long time. | ||
| He's a liar, and he lies. | ||
| Now, I will stress this as it pertains to Edward Snowden. | ||
| I don't believe Snowden was a whistleblower. | ||
| No disrespect. | ||
| He was a leaker. | ||
| He got a bunch of files. | ||
| He leaked them. | ||
| There's a difference. | ||
| A whistleblower says, look at this illegal thing they're doing. | ||
| A leaker says, here's a bunch of files. | ||
| Figure it out. | ||
| That being said, what was leaked did turn out to be beneficial to the American people in that we learned the NSA was basically stealing all your stuff. | ||
| They're spying on you every way imaginable. | ||
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Everything you do, every URL. | |
| They've got it. | ||
| They got it, baby. | ||
| I guess the question is, can they parse through it and find where you are? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Especially with the development of AI. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| But to put it simply, my friends, this guy is a lying liar. | ||
| So why trust him? | ||
| That's what they're all doing. | ||
| Now, in the meantime, Newsweek is reporting that Trump's approval rating nosedives with conservatives. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know if I really buy it, to be completely honest, because outlier polls are outlier polls. | ||
| When you get a poll that comes out that defies all the other polls, we give pause and say, okay, let's make sure this is not noise. | ||
| Sometimes there's anomalies. | ||
| That doesn't mean you're actually tracking true sentiment or movement, but we take it for what it is. | ||
| I don't want to immediately just say all polls are always wrong if they deviate. | ||
| I'm going to mention that in May, Trump held a commanding approval rating of 88% among conservatives with just 11% disapproving, a net approval of plus 77. | ||
| But the margin has narrowed each month since. | ||
| By June, approval slipped to 83% with disapproval rising to 15%, bringing his net rating down to plus 68. | ||
| The downward trend continued into July with Trump's conservative approval dropping to 81% and approval climbing to 17%, a net approval rating of 64, the lowest in months. | ||
| I'm going to tell you why. | ||
| Much like I talked about earlier with Gen Z, when Donald Trump promised amnesty for farm workers, illegal immigrants, and hospitality workers, nah, no way. | ||
| So I think that's the big issue here. | ||
| I don't think Trump is hurting too much over the Epstein stuff, though it is a big issue. | ||
| Mediite reports. | ||
| Trump aides and allies swarm NBC News to tell how strictly they'll enforce not talking about Epstein. | ||
| Really. | ||
| They say adversaries and allies of Trump swarmed NBC News reporters to outline a new strategy of strict silence on the so-called Epstein files flap. | ||
| It's been almost three weeks since Trump admin first tried to bury the promised mountain of information, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Just this week alone, they say Trump flipped out and threatened to sue the Wall Street Journal after they dropped a it was an article claiming that Trump had a letter to Epstein. | ||
| And that's wild because they've never proven it. | ||
| They just claim it to be true. | ||
| And it's nuts that anyone would take that seriously. | ||
| A slew of unearthed videos depicting Trump as a sex creep went viral. | ||
| What? | ||
| We all saw the hoo-hoo video from Hacksis Hollywood. | ||
| Nobody's surprised by Trump's behaviors. | ||
| A new bomb that Trump was previously told he's in the Epstein files dropped. | ||
| Indeed, the media was running that. | ||
| The rollout of Trump's baseless and discredited accusation of treason, you see, have flopped. | ||
| What? | ||
| I love this. | ||
| They are trying so hard. | ||
| Flopped. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| It's huge news, and they keep asking Trump about it. | ||
| A House subcommittee devoted to subpoena all documents relating to the case. | ||
| A phalanx of Trump aides and Republicans spoke to NBC's news reporting team, John Allen, Matt Dixon, Henry Gomez, Ellen Smith, Natasha Karecki. | ||
| President Trump and his aides have settled on silence as a strategy to stamp out criticism for his refusal to release the files. | ||
| I'm going to be honest. | ||
| If Trump and his team literally just never talk about it again, it will go away. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| You might get mad about that. | ||
| You say, stop defending data. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
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Shut up. | |
| These people who are just like, my issue is the only issue that matters. | ||
| You remember the story I've told over and over again? | ||
| Occupy Wall Street. | ||
| Everybody's voting on what they think matters the most, and some guy just screams, it's fracking, fracking. | ||
| What's wrong with you people? | ||
| And I'm just laughing. | ||
| Fracking? | ||
| Are you kidding me, dude? | ||
| Now, don't get me wrong. | ||
| Epstein's important. | ||
| But it's because of Trump speaking about it that it stays in the limelight. | ||
| This story's not going anywhere. | ||
| It'll continue to be talked about forever. | ||
| And maybe Trump will or will not release things. | ||
| I honestly don't know. | ||
| Meanwhile, tariffs in the economy are going to be hitting people every single day. | ||
| The Epstein files are important. | ||
| Trump's better figure this one out because you can't just walk away from it. | ||
| But I'll tell you this right now. | ||
| People care about kitchen table issues much, much more than the Epstein stuff. | ||
| So if Trump starts talking about other things, the media will shift. | ||
| When the Obama story dropped from Tulsi Gabbard, the media has already split now. | ||
| Which brings me to this story from Newsweek. | ||
| Plurality of Americans believe civil war likely in next decade. | ||
| Poll. | ||
| Hey, hey, hey, hey. | ||
| Don't you look at me? | ||
| Newsweek's reporting this. | ||
| It's a poll. | ||
| So I want to hear from you guys when the president accuses a former president of being a traitor to his country after that president had accused this president of being a traitor to this country. | ||
| Where do you go from there? | ||
| And it's not just them insulting each other. | ||
| There were criminal investigations backing all of this. | ||
| Obama accused Trump of treason, not formally, but with the release of this intel, created a campaign by which Trump was smeared for years as a traitor to the United States. | ||
| Donald Trump is now formally accusing Barack Obama of treason. | ||
| Said it from the Oval Office. | ||
| How does this escalate? | ||
| Boy, I honestly don't know. | ||
| But what we're going to do is to get to the bottom of all of this. | ||
| We're going to bring in Mike Cernovich in just a moment. | ||
| He's the guy who cracked the case, igniting the Epstein story as we know it today. | ||
| And he knows more about it than anybody else. | ||
| That'll be coming up at 4 p.m. at rumble.com slash TimPool or youtube.com slash Timcast 4 p.m. | ||
| You don't want to miss it. | ||
| We're going to break down the current state of MAGA, Trump support base, where Democrats currently stand, and what's up with the Epstein files, as well as the Obama trees. | ||
| We're going to go through all of it with Mike Cernovich. | ||
| So smash that like button, share the show with everyone you know. | ||
| You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. | ||
| Thank you all so much for hanging out, and we'll see you all in the next segment. | ||
| For everybody else, we will continue this story. | ||
| Now, right now, it appears, my friends, the media is reporting that Trump is reeling from the accusations about Epstein and that his aides and allies are going to keep silent on the matter. | ||
| But it is interesting because while this is currently going on, Deep State's James Clapper has lawyered up Barack Obama directly addressing claims that he committed treason in a strike force. | ||
| The split is massive. | ||
| This country is facing something tremendous from a declining birth rate and now an all-time rock-bottom polling for Democrats and a split in the MAGA base. | ||
| What comes next? | ||
| Honestly, we don't know. | ||
| It's a bit chaotic, to say the least. | ||
| While many in this country are predicting some kind of civil war, where do we go as a nation when the highest factions of power, the highest echelon of power in the Democrat and Republican side are accusing each other of treason against these United States. | ||
| With Democrats currently polling at rock bottom numbers, I don't know that Donald Trump needs to do anything other than make sure people have food on their tables. | ||
| But it's tough because the Epstein story is not going to go away. | ||
| It's not going to go away. | ||
| And it appears that Trump believes his name may be falsely included in the documents based on the current mainstream reporting. | ||
| So there it is, my friends. | ||
| The question I have for you as we get into this interview and we break down what's currently going on. | ||
| The current reporting right now is that the Epstein files contain unverified hearsay, nothing that could prove or be probable cause for an investigation into Trump, but makes it seem like Trump may have been involved with Epstein in rather disturbing ways. | ||
| Now, most people, I think, want to see the files and know for sure. | ||
| But with Democrats now in just unison demanding the release of these files, and with Trump claiming it's a Democrat hoax, perhaps there is something Trump knows that we don't. | ||
| The reporting is that Pam Bonnie told Trump his name is in the files. | ||
| All of a sudden, Trump says we don't want the files released. | ||
| Trump then says it's all a Democrat hoax. | ||
| Could it be that Trump is responding to information we don't have that unverified hearsay included in these documents will smear Trump as somehow involved in the Epstein trafficking ring? | ||
| Again, nothing that could actually criminally implicate him, but enough to damage his reputation in rather disturbing ways. | ||
| Trump sees this and says, they're lying. | ||
| The Democrats under Obama put this information there as a time bomb against me. | ||
| Now, without the American people knowing anything about this, Trump comes out and says, it's a hoax. | ||
| It's a Democrat hoax, making him look worse. | ||
| I don't know for sure. | ||
| But I'm curious to ask Mike Cernovich. | ||
| He's the guy who cracked this story open. | ||
| He's been talking about it quite a bit. | ||
| We're going to bring him in now. | ||
| Let's boot it up. | ||
| See if we can get it all working here and get the camera rolling and bring in Mike. | ||
| All right, we got Mike Cernovich here. | ||
| Mike, can you hear me? | ||
| Yes, sir. | ||
| Hey, man, how's it going? | ||
| Doing well, brother. | ||
| Doing well. | ||
| Right on. | ||
| So we got a lot going on with this. | ||
| We're looking at record low approval for Democrats. | ||
| We're looking at reports of the MAGA base splitting. | ||
| Gen Z maybe is upset with Trump. | ||
| Maybe it's because Trump's not far right enough, but it does look like there's some tumult. | ||
| You've got Trump being accused by the Democrats, the corporate press, of being in the Epstein files. | ||
| Meanwhile, you've got the Trump admin basically accusing Barack Obama of treason. | ||
| The two highest echelons of power, the Democrat-Republican side, accusing each other of high crimes. | ||
| And so a lot to go through, but let me start here. | ||
| Some of the reports that have come out have said that Pam Bondi has told Trump he's in the files. | ||
| They say that there's unverified hearsay in them that may paint Trump in a negative light, and he doesn't want these files released. | ||
| Trump's gone on to say that this is all one big Democrat hoax, insinuating that there is negative information about him in those files. | ||
| I'm curious what your thoughts are on Trump's positioning in these files and what it means. | ||
| We were told all this in February. | ||
| I mean, back when we were at Shelley's. | ||
| It's weird that the Wall Street Journal is reporting this as some kind of exclusive news. | ||
| Anybody who was there, and you should have been there, will tell you that. | ||
| So that's being repackaged as something that it's not. | ||
| Everyone that's told, oh, here's the black book. | ||
| I forget how old I am. | ||
| For people who are younger, before you had an iPhone, you kept a book, a black book, and you would write down everybody's numbers in there from business associates to people you knew. | ||
| It's not some weird, you know, mysterious thing. | ||
| Ivanka's a bunch of phone numbers were in there of random people. | ||
| And that somehow spins out into, you know, Trump is, Trump is in the Epstein files and he really doesn't want him out. | ||
| I just don't think Trump was ever really briefed on the Epstein stuff. | ||
| Anybody who was, there's a big, a big tension right now, right now, and like the MAGA base. | ||
| And that is Trump's first term was not good. | ||
| It was objectively not good. | ||
| People love to dig up my old tweets from that era. | ||
| Like they got me and they're embarrassing me. | ||
| And I go, oh, no, I stand behind. | ||
| I stand behind all of those. | ||
| And I was vindicated. | ||
| It took a while to be because during Trump's first term, I said, why doesn't his director of intelligence release all the Russiagate files? | ||
| So Tulsi Gabber does that in 2025. | ||
| And this isn't shade on Tulsi. | ||
| Tulsi is great. | ||
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But then people are like, yeah, sick based. | |
| Oh, great. | ||
| So when you were yelling at me eight years ago to trust a plan and I'm a never Trumper and you hate me, things that I wanted done are done eight years later. | ||
| You're like, wow, freaking all, this is all based on stuff that should have been done. | ||
| It looks like, you know, the media is saying, I think it was, I can't remember if it was Mediaxios, that Trump, oh, actually, everybody's saying this. | ||
| Trump launched the attack against Obama as a way to distract from the Epstein files. | ||
| Why didn't the Trump admin dump this stuff in the first term? | ||
| Why are they doing it now? | ||
| Well, Tulsi, again, that's where knowing how the moves work better is the fundamental understanding of Trump is Trump is about Trump. | ||
| So you have to find a way to make things about Trump in a good way. | ||
| The neocons are trying to force out Tulsi. | ||
| Remember, a couple of weeks ago, the neocons almost had her out. | ||
| They said she was a spy. | ||
| She was leaking information. | ||
| They somehow convinced Hegseth to fire two or three people very loyal to him, a choice that he absolutely regrets. | ||
| You had to remember the neocons were trying to push out Hegseth and Tulsi. | ||
| So then Tulsi found a way in Trump world, you got to prove your worth, man. | ||
| And proving your worth is how you make Trump look good. | ||
| And, you know, I've had talks to other people. | ||
| If you've been in the military or on a team, this is not like an insulting thing to say. | ||
| Protect the quarterback. | ||
| Trump's the quarterback. | ||
| That's just what you, if you're a lineman, what do you do? | ||
| You protect the quarterback. | ||
| That's the way it goes. | ||
| If you're in the military and you get yelled at, you get your butt shooted out. | ||
| Okay, you just got your butt shoot out. | ||
| Go talk to your wife and friends about it. | ||
| Go wind down. | ||
| Not a big deal. | ||
| So Tulsi had to earn her keep, so to speak, by releasing this stuff. | ||
| Trump has always been obsessed about Russia Gate, which he should be. | ||
| So the timing of that isn't related to the Epstein files at all. | ||
| On the files, Trump has said it's a Democrat hoax. | ||
| And with the report that Bondi told him his name's appearing in it, and there's unverified hearsay, it sounds like she did. | ||
| And then Trump looked at it and was like, this is not real. | ||
| Then truth's out. | ||
| It's a hoax, it's a hoax. | ||
| But without the context that his name appeared in it, it sounds like he's saying Epstein did nothing wrong. | ||
| Yeah, it's been handled very poorly. | ||
| There's the narrative of what Trump is losing, and he's losing it badly, especially amongst Zoomers and the comedian podcaster circuit, which people can say what they will about it, but that helps. | ||
| In close elections, everything helps. | ||
| And it's not being dismissive of anybody like that is bad. | ||
| The Nelk boys are taking heat. | ||
| Dylan sounds like Tim Dylan sounds like he's upset. | ||
| And maybe I don't consider these people to be serious political thinkers or political philosophers, but they undeniably have an energy about them, an aura, that when you're in a close election, you want those guys or you want to be on the same side of them. | ||
| They reach Normans. | ||
| That's pretty obvious. | ||
| They reach regular people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Trump is losing the narrative war badly. | ||
| As someone who is familiar with these issues, like I know for a fact, neither Thomas Massey nor Pam Bondi has ever said, let's call in the people who have investigated the Epstein matter and get a briefing from them. | ||
| This has just not happened. | ||
| This is why a lot of people don't understand. | ||
| I know you like Massey. | ||
| I know a lot of people like Massey. | ||
| But I've been talking about Epstein since 2017. | ||
| Alex Jones was talking about it 10 years before that. | ||
| Jessica House and Habit has done detailed reporting on Epstein for years. | ||
| There's none of these people, no stat, no, no, nobody from Massey's office, even when I was trying to get him to, or Rand Paul's office, has said, hey, man, what is this Epstein thing that all you people have been talking about since it's never happened? | ||
| And then they're like, oh, the Epstein files. | ||
| And here's Massey with the picture of a binder. | ||
| It's like, well, you don't even know what this is about. | ||
| And the same thing with Shrewd Pambandi. | ||
| She doesn't know what it's about. | ||
| She's got 10,000 things to worry about, dude. | ||
| Every day there's terrorist attacks planned on everything. | ||
| So what you have to do is, if you really cared, you would have people like me who I have time to go on a side quest, right? | ||
| There are times where weeks at a time, people go, oh, Cerno's really like falling off. | ||
| What happened to him? | ||
| You know, he's not relevant anymore. | ||
| And then all of a sudden I come out and everybody's like, oh, wow. | ||
| It's like, yeah, because I have the leisure to just say, you know what I'm going to think about for the next eight weeks? | ||
| It's just some weird issue. | ||
| Well, this is funny because I remember we had this debate with Ian. | ||
| I talked to you about it. | ||
| For those that watched him cast IRL, he said that he was basically saying, I'll keep it light. | ||
| I won't bring the other guy in this, but that you are not significant. | ||
| And I'm sitting here being like, the whole Epstein thing happening right now that is directly affecting potentially the midterms of the presidency is because Mike Cernovich filed a lawsuit and was investigating and uncovering this stuff. | ||
| It's like everybody expects you to be on Acts 24-7 filming videos so they can see your face. | ||
| Otherwise, you're not doing any work. | ||
| And that's why I think that's why we reached out to you. | ||
| We want to talk to you about what's going on right now. | ||
| Because I think you make a really good point. | ||
| So we'll bring it back to Massey, Rand Paul, even Pam Bondi. | ||
| You made a really good point with Massey. | ||
| Why don't they bring in, I mean, look, if they're not going to bring in you, they could bring in Acosta or any of these investigators or prosecutors. | ||
| They could bring in Comey's daughter and have them testify and give statements, but they're not doing anything. | ||
| It's like they're basically, all we're getting is publish the files or don't. | ||
| And even among the influencer base and the regular people, I think there's a serious oversight in perhaps we should all be calling for congressional hearings alongside the release of these files so we can actually have people be forced to testify about what happened. | ||
| Members of Congress should do members of Congress things, which is subpoena witnesses, get people under oath, hold hearings, obtain information that can only be obtained from law enforcement sources. | ||
| We don't need Thomas Massey tweeting out and release the Epstein files. | ||
| Okay, cool, bro. | ||
| Cool story, bro. | ||
| Last I checked, you were in Congress. | ||
| DC Draino can do that. | ||
| Tim can do that. | ||
| Besobit can. | ||
| We can all, we got that covered, brother. | ||
| We got it covered. | ||
| We don't need another guy on Twitter saying we got to release these files and post some pictures. | ||
| Do things that are congressional. | ||
| And then you say, well, why didn't any, and this is why if you're looking at it from Trump's perspective, you would say, man, why didn't, because remember, Republicans had the House for a couple of years during the Biden regime for two years. | ||
| So don't tell me, oh, well, we couldn't get anything done. | ||
| So if you're Trump, all you're hearing is, oh, there's lies about me in these files. | ||
| The people who hate me, Hakeem Jeffries and Massey are now saying we need to release these files. | ||
| Obviously, this is some kind of Russiagate thing directed at me, even though Trump's wrong on the facts of it. | ||
| Again, that's where people who watch your show and other shows on Twitter, people forget, like, you got a thousand things going on for a thousand things going on if you're the president, a thousand things if you're paying Bondi going on. | ||
| And if you're us, you can have only one thing going on. | ||
| Why, this is what I can't wrap my head around, is why they're handling it so poorly, right? | ||
| So there's a report now out of Mediaites saying that Trump's aides and allies are going to go silent. | ||
| They said, we're going to stop talking about it so it goes away. | ||
| And I'm sitting here thinking, like, why would you publicly announce this? | ||
| Why would you mishandle the PR around this in the first place if Dan Bongino came out on day one and simply said, guys, it's an ongoing investigation. | ||
| I wish I could tell you more. | ||
| That would be the end of it. | ||
| So what are they doing? | ||
| I think there are people in the White House communications team who are way too worried about the Israel angle, way more, because I've looked at things left, right, and center. | ||
| And I even got called a massage show, which is like pretty funny for anybody remotely familiar with my body of work. | ||
| I'm just like, there's no way Israel could run this without our intelligence agencies being a part of it. | ||
| It's just not how things work. | ||
| But there's like a weird psyop where like Mark Levin, who was talking about the Epstein files a year ago, is now, well, you can't, you know, you can't talk about it anymore. | ||
| So I think they got psyoped by the, oh, this is really going to damage Israel angle. | ||
| And then they're pressing Trump to not talk about it because they're worried about that angle, which is, of course, only making things worse. | ||
| I mean, the reaction, you know, I'm not one to talk about Zoomer gossip like I'm some like cool guy and in touch with things, but then the Nelk boys really are getting their butts chewed out because they had Netanyahu on. | ||
| Dude, I would interview Netanyahu and I would just ask him normal questions and then let other people dissect it because yelling at people doesn't work. | ||
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Like, oh, you know, it's a genocide. | |
| That doesn't work. | ||
| That gets you a clip that maybe like Anna Kasparian screaming at peers. | ||
| Maybe that gets you a clip that your little group likes, but you just look kind of like a lunatic. | ||
| Well, here's the hard reality, I guess, is people, there are a lot of smart and good people who are focused, discerning, and want to fix this country and the world. | ||
| But there's a lot of people who simply want to see symbols of what they feel oppresses them be struck down. | ||
| And so if you get a video of you berating a liberal or a liberal gets a video of them berating a conservative, they go viral. | ||
| But yeah, the Nelk Boys are getting obliterated for having interviewed Netanyahu, which is, it's crazy to me. | ||
| I mean, you're supposed to interview people. | ||
| Is the argument that they have to yell at him the whole time because people hate the guy? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Sure, because it's what you said. | ||
| People want catharsis. | ||
| Adam Townsend, I read him a lot. | ||
| He has a lot of interesting insights. | ||
| But something that I didn't realize is that, and this is a role that I kind of quit playing for that reason, is there's a false catharsis. | ||
| So the nut boys yelling at Netanyahu is going to go viral. | ||
| And then that girl on Breaking Points or woman, whatever, Kyle Kalinsky's wife can crystallize. | ||
| Oh, you know, based. | ||
| And you get your click little nukboys go off. | ||
| And you have the thumbnail with like, ah, you know, with the big face and everything. | ||
| And everybody can like turn that content. | ||
| But that doesn't accomplish. | ||
| That doesn't accomplish anything at all. | ||
| But then the viewer feels like, ooh, you know, I got some catharsis. | ||
| Like, no, catharsis is if you really think the situation's out of control there, then you want the situation to change. | ||
| Catharsis is not, that's where the false catharsis comes in is, ooh, you know, I got this big resolution. | ||
| It's like, no, no, you just got a hit of dopamine and nothing else. | ||
| But that's what the audience wants. | ||
| So a lot of people believe, we had Dan Bongino on Timcast IRL a year or two ago, and he said, many believe that Epstein is some Middle Eastern intelligence. | ||
| Everybody in the comments starts laughing like Middle Eastern, bro. | ||
| It's like, come on. | ||
| The insinuation is that he was working for or with Mossad. | ||
| Do you not see any possibility of that? | ||
| I mean, could it be that he was working with U.S. intelligence and tangentially with Mossad? | ||
| It would have to be a joint operation. | ||
| So the, and I'm, you know, this is all my gray hairs. | ||
| What I'm trying to do, and that's why I get yelled at by the pro-Israel side and the very hardcore anti-Israels, I'm trying to help people just have a well-rounded approach to these things. | ||
| So if you're just calling him Mossad, so first of all, Eric Weinstein has said that it might have been Mossad. | ||
| So if Eric Weinstein is saying that, then obviously the powers that be are not afraid of that being a talking point. | ||
| So you would be, you would just say, well, that's like Eric poses no threat to the regime or existing power structure at all. | ||
| And he'll let you say it's Mossad and he'll even go down that rabbit hole. | ||
| So maybe the Mossad angle is the limited hangout, which is frankly what I believe, which enrages the anti-Israel people because they're like, oh, you're, you're a mass. | ||
| It's like, no, I think the limited hangout is that it's Mossad. | ||
| Can you define limited hangout for those that don't know what that means? | ||
| Limited hangout is when you release a little bit of information to distract people from the bigger picture and you want everybody to focus on that one piece of information and think that that is the complete puzzle rather than a piece of the puzzle. | ||
| And intelligence operatives love to let you think that you're on something big to keep you distracted. | ||
| I talked about this with Pizzagate. | ||
| When these WikiLeaks files get, these emails get released, you see a couple that are strange. | ||
| One is Barack Obama ordered $30,000 worth of pizza on hot dogs. | ||
| And then there's another one saying there was a handkerchief with a map on it. | ||
| And what ends up happening is with the release of all these emails, you get all this information released at once. | ||
| Then comes a few select posts on social media claiming that certain words mean certain things. | ||
| And it took that story and threw it off in a faraway direction, which is classic spycraft. | ||
| My argument was they probably uncovered, a lot of the emails probably showed that politicians were doing hardcore drugs and had hookers. | ||
| And what they did was the intelligence agencies, the spies, say, we need these people to sound like lunatics. | ||
| So they do the limited hangout. | ||
| They release a little bit of information that turns the conspiracy theory into psychobabble. | ||
| And then no one actually can track down what was really going on. | ||
| And what they did with that was so brilliant because, or they made it about something that we weren't even talking about. | ||
| And then an event happens there that makes it so we can't talk about anything now. | ||
| Because we were talking about the, you know, for people who are new, I always just say, has any time in your life someone emailed you to say that you left a handkerchief with a map on it? | ||
| Right. | ||
| What are we, the goonies? | ||
| And there's a treasure map on it. | ||
| Get real here. | ||
| But nobody even knows about that unless you're deep in lore and you watch people like Ian and you and a few other people. | ||
| So everybody thinks that it was about the lie, which is not what we were even talking about. | ||
| But by that lie becoming so salacious and whatnot, it made it so that we couldn't talk about the dominoes. | ||
| Who says I was playing dominoes on cheese? | ||
| Can somebody explain that to me? | ||
| I never. | ||
| My first thought was that they were basically saying doing drugs with hookers and they're using coded language. | ||
| So There's another fascinating element to this limited hangout play, and that is retroactive reputation damage. | ||
| So they'll release a story in a hashtag. | ||
| The best example is probably alt-right. | ||
| So the phrase alt-right was being used back in like 2017 by a lot of people to generally mean new conservatives that opposed the Republican establishment. | ||
| Once enough people were saying that they were alt-right, the corporate press then put out a statement through the AP that alt-right means you're a white nationalist who wants a country for white people and to remove immigrants. | ||
| Then they go back to past tweets and alter the context to say, look at this conservative personality who admitted they were a white supremacist. | ||
| So they can do that with all of these campaigns. | ||
| And, you know, to bring it back to the news and what we're talking about with Trump and these files, there is a, as it pertains to the point you're making about Mossad, I think you make a good point, and we've mentioned this last time, that they allow you to say it. | ||
| They want you to say it. | ||
| Maybe it's a limited hangout. | ||
| And then you see how fervent people get over the issue of Israel. | ||
| It's almost like the blinders turn on and they can't assess things critically that, sure, you can criticize Israel. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| But are there other factors at play that you're being blinded to by not paying attention to the bigger picture? | ||
| Yeah, I always ask, what are they letting me talk about? | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's the big question that we should always look to as investigators. | ||
| The dog that doesn't bark. | ||
| What dog isn't barking and why isn't the dog? | ||
| You know, for people who never read that Sherlock Holmes story, the expression comes in from they're trying to figure out who broke in and who was an intruder. | ||
| And then they asked, well, did the dog bark? | ||
| The dog didn't bark. | ||
| Oh, that's how you knew it was an inside job. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you're always thinking, what dog isn't barking? | ||
| And so when I hear, like, everybody can say it's Masad. | ||
| I could tweet right now as Mossad. | ||
| And I would have the usual pro-Israel people mad at me, but they're always mad at me for something. | ||
| But then the anti-Israel people would love me all of a sudden. | ||
| Yeah, I'm like, you're finally truth-telling and everything. | ||
| So that tells me that it's probably the royal family. | ||
| It's something, it's something above them. | ||
| I believe there's, we got real, we've talked about this before. | ||
| I think there's something above what we're allowed to see, or maybe it's dark and below. | ||
| And those are what we can't talk about. | ||
| Yeah, we can't like, for example, if you talk about, even though every religion, Islam, Judaism, they call them different things. | ||
| So Muslims call them jinn. | ||
| Every religion believes in a supernatural and every religion believes in angels and demons. | ||
| But if you say, I think that there are people acting at the behest of demons, you can't talk about, you're a loony tune. | ||
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| It's like, well, wait a minute. | ||
| You go to church or temple or mosque and you pray for angels to intercede for you and you pray to God and Allah and you believe demons are real. | ||
| But if I say that humans are interacting with demons, like I can't say that, but I can see the sad. | ||
| I think you make a good point with what do you call it? | ||
| Superstructure or something above what we perceive. | ||
| It could be supernatural. | ||
| I believe we've not even yet begun to discover the true nature of reality. | ||
| It's very, very minimal. | ||
| But even if it's not, and it doesn't need to be, for those that are more, I guess, of modern sensibilities and they don't want to believe that stuff, it's fairly simple that there would be a power structure that doesn't want you to know what it's doing. | ||
| And some we know the name of and some we don't. | ||
| I've described it like we are chickens in a chicken coop. | ||
| And what I mean by that is I got chickens and I literally do not care about their day-to-day business. | ||
| They can act like that hen is in charge and that rooster is in charge and I don't know or care. | ||
| I go in every day, I take their eggs from them. | ||
| And so long as they produce, their politics mean nothing to me. | ||
| But you know what happens? | ||
| When some of the chickens start fighting, what do we do? | ||
| We don't go in there and mediate. | ||
| We don't negotiate. | ||
| We put plastic blinders over their eyes. | ||
| Not a joke. | ||
| We put blinders over their eyes so they can't see each other anymore and it stops them from fighting. | ||
| So I think there's a strong probability. | ||
| There are power structures that we can't see. | ||
| That's why it seems like every time a new politician gets in, they fall in line with certain policies that we all are mad about because the actual power structures want their eggs. | ||
| They want the product of the labor and they don't care about what you and I are talking about. | ||
| And so you make a good point about Mossad. | ||
| They let you say certain things. | ||
| But when Donald Trump got impeached, if you even typed the name Eric Charomella on any social platform, they would delete that instantly without notice. | ||
| Now that was weird. | ||
| Yeah, and it was to such a degree that MAGA people don't even know that I was the one who broke that story about Eric Chirimella way before he was the so-called whistleblower. | ||
| People are like, because you couldn't even say it. | ||
| And again, that goes to what are you not being allowed to talk about? | ||
| And why is that? | ||
| And then, of course, the, I sort of believe that we could be, I don't want to believe it, but sometimes I believe in my darker moments that we're just an energy farm. | ||
| And that's why we're programmed to reproduce. | ||
| And that's why it's so much harder to love than to hate. | ||
| And then it can go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I go down there, but even if you don't go supernatural and you only look at, like, I always tell people, I don't know what the Federal Reserve does. | ||
| I know I can tell you what they tell us they do, right? | ||
| I know the official story. | ||
| Nobody here. | ||
| And then I know people in Wall Street and then I find out how the Federal Reserve really works. | ||
| And you go, oh, no, they just, they just give money to these hedge funds at 0% interest and let them do whatever they want with it. | ||
| And these hedge funders then come on on Twitter like they're geniuses. | ||
| Financial, you know, that's why they're all so mad at Tucker because Tucker has been talking more about high finance and how it really works. | ||
| So you don't have to go to where I am. | ||
| I would just say, people, hey, what's the discount window with the Federal Reserve and how does that work? | ||
| You know, let me just, you know, the last few minutes we got here, as I use this analogy, yours is more like we are an energy farm or whatever. | ||
| I use the analogy of the chickens in the coop. | ||
| But what happens when your chickens stop producing and you can't get them under control? | ||
| You cull the flock. | ||
| Do you think there's a possibility that if there is some kind of superstructure that, say, Donald Trump gets into office and says, we're going to fix this, and then they basically tell him, if you do anything out of line, we'll purge humanity. | ||
| We'll wipe the farm and start fresh. | ||
| We will flood the earth or something to that effect. | ||
| It wouldn't surprise me. | ||
| I mean, look at what World War II happened to World War II, right? | ||
| And World War I. And then you start to look into the lending practices happening in World War I. And you look at, that's also why the Mossad angle kind of annoys me is if you look at the sinking of ships and everything, there's no like Mossad to blame on that. | ||
| That's just white Anglo-Saxon Protestants doing that. | ||
| And because there's even a video going around where like, oh yeah, Cernovich is saying it's anti-Semitic to save Mossad. | ||
| And if you watch the full video, it's no, no, I'm saying that false flags were happening in white Anglo-Saxon America. | ||
| So if you have this unusual, or even if you look at the 9-11 conspiracy theories, even if you accepted one part of it, you would still have to accept the Carlisle group, George W. Bush, George H.W. Bush, who was working with the Mexicans and oil interests. | ||
| And people get really mad when you bring that up. | ||
| Or if you want to talk about open borders, you have to talk about Catholic charities. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| But they don't want to hear that, though. | ||
| They don't want to hear about how the Pope is openly open borders. | ||
| And the Pope before that was open. | ||
| They only want to hear about what they can say about Jews and the Jews and everything. | ||
| Whereas what I'm trying to do, and I don't think I'm winning, I think I'm losing badly on this. | ||
| I'll admit that, is I'm trying to say if you take a well-rounded group, a well-rounded approach, groups are acting in all sorts of ways. | ||
| Multiple groups are. | ||
| And that would be the case with Epstein. | ||
| I think what's going to happen, we're already watching this trend. | ||
| Long-form content is starting to weaken, and it's being replaced by the short-form TikTok shorts, Instagram reels, YouTube shorts. | ||
| I think the strategy from the elite is the reason why Trump won't ban TikTok, get everybody hyper-focused on random static noise, and they will never be focused enough to interfere with our objectives. | ||
| I think that's where we're headed right now, culturally. | ||
| Yeah, they play on you emotionally in a short bit because I've programmed an algorithm to be really bad. | ||
| And I'm like, thank God I'm almost 50. | ||
| Because if I were in my 20s, had a crummy apartment, a crummy job, was overweight from all this GMO food stuff, hormonally dysregulated, you're trying to date, but they're flying out to Dubai and getting done to them. | ||
| I'd be like, dude, I would be mad. | ||
| I would really be mad. | ||
| And whereas I watch it, I'm only slightly annoyed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, Mike, you know, you raise a good point. | ||
| Next time I speak with, say, Massey or Rep Conna, if we do, we reach out to them relatively often, especially on this stuff. | ||
| I'm going to ask them exactly that. | ||
| Why don't they bring people in for testimony, bring the investigators, bring the prosecutors, bring people like you in to go over the research and actually discuss this in the public light instead of, it's a good point. | ||
| Release the documents. | ||
| Mike Johnson won't do it. | ||
| Then Trump says don't. | ||
| And so you get talking points and nothing actually ends up happening. | ||
| So I will do that. | ||
| In the meantime, where can people find you? | ||
| Bob, Twitter, X Cernovich. | ||
| X Mars the Spot Cernovich. | ||
| Ryan, man, I really do appreciate you joining and talking about your views on this. | ||
| And we'll see you next time. | ||
| Oh, it's a pleasure. | ||
| Have a go, man. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Mike Cernovich, of course, he broke the story. | ||
| He cracked it wide open. | ||
| I will say, I'm much more interested in talking about the superstructure systems. | ||
| Let's just put it this way. | ||
| A lot of people are going to say, I don't care for supernatural. | ||
| Okay, it's fine. | ||
| You don't have to. | ||
| I don't like the word supernatural because you're basically just saying something we haven't discovered yet. | ||
| If it exists, it exists. | ||
| If it's reality, it's reality. | ||
| If there is a spectrum beyond what we can perceive, and there is, it's called the electromagnetic spectrum, but if there's another one, why would we call it magic? | ||
| Maybe you can influence things with your mind. | ||
| I have no idea, but the point is, if it exists, it exists, and we have not discovered everything. | ||
| But let's just say you're of modern sensibilities and you're like, I don't believe in aliens or whatever. | ||
| And it's like, okay, fine. | ||
| Why would there not be powerful individuals who don't want you to know who they are? | ||
| I'll give you one final story. | ||
| I was hanging out at the casino. | ||
| Hey, hey, I like to play poker. | ||
| And I was talking with one of the VIP liaisons. | ||
| They said a guy comes in. | ||
| He burns like $15 million a year gambling. | ||
| He's got two young ladies. | ||
| He gives them each $5 million to lose. | ||
| They don't make the money. | ||
| They literally just spend $10,000 a hand, lose the money, and then laugh and walk out. | ||
| And I'm thinking to myself, who? | ||
| Who is this guy? | ||
| Like, who are these people that have money like that where they literally don't care to lose $25 million in one year gambling? | ||
| It's strange, isn't it? | ||
| An old guy with that much money has a lot of influence and power in this world and you don't even know his name. | ||
| Aren't there going to be people like that you've never heard of with tremendous power? | ||
| I'm not talking about cults or cabals or magic. | ||
| I'm literally just talking about rich people you've never heard of. | ||
| Bezos wants you to know who he is. | ||
| Who are the guys out there that don't? | ||
| No idea. | ||
| But I'm going to wrap it there, my friends. | ||
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| We're going to gear up for that raid on Russell Brand, who is going live. | ||
| I believe he should be live right now. | ||
| He usually is. | ||
| Give a shout out to Russell Brand, who is live now, as well as Steven Crowder and the Mug Club. | ||
| I always want to just stress it every time I can. | ||
| Guys, it is incredible that through this Rumble Morning lineup, this worldview that we live in has become the mainstream. | ||
| There's a lot of big news behind the scenes that I can't talk about, but I want you guys to really, I want to stress, and I want you to understand this. | ||
| The corporate press is capitulating. | ||
| Barry Weiss's The Free Press is apparently going around trying to get $250 million evaluation for a sale of her outlet. | ||
| Anti-woke. | ||
| Now, the free press is certainly not hardcore MAGA, but it defied the corporate press. | ||
| I can tell you on our end, we've got organizations basically telling us, corporate press, you've won. | ||
| How can we do a deal? | ||
| And we are laughing all the way to the bank. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| This fake narrative machine that tried to play politics has failed. | ||
| Woke is broke. | ||
| And the big companies are coming around and saying, what do we have to do? | ||
| Now, it's not everybody. | ||
| CBS just put a billion, 1.5 billion into South Park to insult Trump and claim he's got a little wiener. | ||
| How stupid. | ||
| But there are big companies now realizing that has lost, and people are clamoring for something reasonable. | ||
| So we're winning. | ||
| And I'm going to say it's largely because a lot of you guys who watch, you share these videos, you watch the whole morning lineup. | ||
| We now dominate the top 10 news broadcasts in the world on Rumble, as well as generally the top 10 of all live streams. | ||
| We're in a down period for news because we're in an off cycle politically, but still, the Rumble live streams are dominating the top live streams in the world and big interests, powerful interests are taking notice. | ||
| They've lost. | ||
| And instead of saying we're going to wither away and die, they're saying, we want to catch your train before it leaves the station. | ||
| And what that means? | ||
| It means we have the leverage. | ||
| So thank you all so much for watching. | ||
| Stay tuned. | ||
| More to come tonight, 8 p.m. | ||
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