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June 26, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show
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Democrat Party IN CHAOS As Communist Win BACKFIRES, NYC Market TANKING
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The democratic establishment is melting down after Zoran Mamdani's win in New York City.
The man's an overt socialist with insane policies like government-run stores, $30 minimum wage, defunding the police, replacing them with social workers, and that's just the beginning.
Free buses, LGBTQIA office in government.
Oh boy, 800% increase in funding for hate crime law enforcement.
Yep.
Already in New York City, the housing market is starting to break down.
Shares in companies that hold real estate are dropping.
And the famous story that we've talked about quite a bit is that this billionaire guy who owns a bunch of grocery stores says he's going to leave because there's no way he's going to compete with government-run grocery stores.
Oh, boy.
Hope y'all are ready for breadlines.
Look, things like this happen all over the world.
Socialists take power.
And invariably, you end up with the same things.
People go hungry.
People lose access to wealth and resources.
And that's what happens when a bunch of, well, I guess it's a fourth turning.
When a generation is improperly prepared.
Now, I don't know if there's a solution to the fourth turning, assuming it's correct, which states simply, every fourth generation, you get a bunch of lazy entitled crackpots.
The reality may be that without experience of hardship, people tend to vote for things that are destructive.
And Zoran Mamdani is another example.
Now, he may be either dangerously stupid or dangerously evil.
But for all intents and purposes, it's effectively the exact same thing.
Now, the funny thing about this is I love watching the establishment Democrats self-immolate in chaos over what is currently going on with Zoran Mamdani.
But at the same time, the deeper concern is that this will spread.
And you know what?
I accept this.
I was talking about it quite a bit saying, you know what, fine, let baby have his bottle.
Let the socialists get what they want.
But it will just entrench itself and it won't stop.
Now, in this instance, it's isolated to the cities, but it's expanding.
Chicago voted in a socialist and everyone's pissed off.
Maybe in the next election, things will change, but I doubt it.
New York City is voting leftist every single time and it's only going further and further.
It's almost like if they fall off the cliff, they argue that they're actually just not falling fast enough and they do everything they can to speed things up.
They seem to be in this system of belief that they're just not communist enough.
And if they only try again, maybe they'll succeed.
So let's talk about all of that and the breakdown of what's currently going on.
The state of the Democratic Party and my friends is, of course, communism on the rise in these United States.
The next generation is going to be oh-so insane.
And you're going to have a right-leaning younger faction with a communist-leaning left faction.
And, you know, I'll just put it this way.
I got a segment coming up later.
There's a viral video of some woman, a leftist, of course, calling for the murder of ICE agents, but telling people to do it, telling them to get guns and go and do it.
I imagine she'll get arrested, but the sentiment is growing.
So when this generation is the older generation in politics, what do you think they're going to be doing?
We've already seen Democrats go after Donald Trump with false criminal charges, false felonies, false accusations of rape.
They arrested his lawyers and raided his home.
What do you think the commies are going to do?
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We've got this story from Axios.
Democratic establishment melts down over Mamdani's win in New York.
Many Democratic leaders and donors are panicking about Zoran Mamdani, the 33-year-old Democratic socialist who won the party's nomination to be the next mayor of New York City.
Establishment Democrats looking to recover from 2024's losses fear Mamdani could hurt the party's brand nationally, while young progressives believe his formula could spread beyond New York.
I think both are true.
The far-left crackpot communist psychotic ideologies will absolutely spread, and it will also dramatically hurt the Democrats' national brand.
Here's how it works.
There's a funny meme, and I'll be a little crude with it.
So I hope you guys earmuffs if you got kids listening.
But there's a funny meme where it's like in, you know, in 1990, some dude has a, I'll keep it family friendly, has a proclivity for toasters, if you know what I'm saying.
And his dad whacks him in the back of the head and says, knock it off, you weirdo.
And he does.
In 2025, a kid, teenager with a proclivity for toasters goes online, finds an online community of whack-a-loons from all over the world where they come together and convene over their love for toasters, if you know what I'm saying.
So basically what happens is you get Creckpot AOC with stupid ideas that most people don't support, but she's able to muster up funding by targeting the pocket of disparate socialists across the country.
Let's just say this.
In a nation of 330 million with no internet, you got to go door to door and knock on doors.
What happens?
Nine out of 10 doors you knock on are going to be fairly moderate in some way.
Yeah, you'll bump into 10% of the socialists, but what are they going to do about it?
So you end up pandering to the majority, the moderate base, and you win your election.
AOC comes around.
She's a crackpot lunatic lefty.
She finds only 10% in her district actually supports communism.
So what does she do?
She goes online, and this is true of the squad.
The overwhelming majority, I think the last test was a few years ago, and it was like 95% or more of the donations they receive are from outside of their district.
Meaning that 10% normally wouldn't be able to give you enough resources to win an election.
So if you're asking your district for money, you can't pander the 10%.
You got to go for the majority, the lowest common denominator.
But for the squad now, they can raise substantially more money online because fervent psychotic communists are willing to throw money at their ideology.
They hyper-concentrate it in a district like AOC, Ilhan Omar, et cetera.
And what happens?
She ends up being able to win through her campaigning.
Of course, generally she just goes around or like Zohan Mamdani, endorsed by AOC, he can promise things that are impossible.
And with the power of the internet, got his message out, despite the fact it's not popular nationally.
Among young people, because of social media, it is becoming more popular.
So what I see happening for Democrats is their party will eventually just Become the minority party, they will struggle to muster up any real chance of victory because they're too extreme.
They'll represent about 20 to 25% of the country, but moderates are going to be like, these people are crazy.
So the Democrats will never quite get there.
But let's read more.
They say Democratic leaders largely rallied behind former Governor Andrew Cuomo in New York's mayoral primary.
Mamdani's shocking victory Tuesday was the latest example of the party's establishment being disconnected from its own voters.
On Wednesday, many Democratic lawmakers and officials either denounced Mamdani or notably declined to rally around him.
Republicans, including Trump, crowed about Democrats embracing a Democratic socialist who has called for reduced police funding and sided with Palestinians in the Gaza War.
The top two Democratic leaders in Congress, Schumer and Jeffries, both New Yorkers, declined to endorse Mamdani, even as they applauded his victory.
Okay, let's talk about the ramifications.
Shares of firms tied to NYC real estate tank over fears of Mamdani's rent freeze, the Zoran effect.
Let's go.
Already, people are losing money.
I love it.
And I'm sure the communists do too.
The New York Post reports, shares of firms with exposure to New York City's real estate market were hammered on Wednesday as investors panicked over the growing prospect of rent freeze advocate Zoran Mamdani winning City Hall.
Vornado Realty Trust and SL Green, two of the big Apple's largest developers, plunged more than 5%.
Oh, man.
That's brutal.
There's also Trinity Church, which is like one of the largest real estate owners in the city or the country.
And I wonder how their holdings are doing.
Other real estate investment trusts with heavy ties to the city also suffered.
Equity Residential and Empire State Realty Trust fell 3% and 4%, respectively.
LXP Industrial Trust was down 2.5%.
Let's go.
Look at that smile on Zoran's face as the markets crumble around him.
Amen.
If you guys don't know much about New York in the 70s, wait till you get a load of this guy.
Investors also sold off shares in New York's banks with major real estate portfolios.
Flagstar Financial and Dime Community Bank fell 5% and 4% respectively, while Flushing Financial slipped 3%.
Flagstar, formerly known as New York Community Bancorp and Dime Community, have major exposure to rent-regulated multifamily homes, I'm assuming they're in, in New York, according to analysts.
Mamdani, the 33-year-old self-avowed Democratic socialist, which let's be real, literally just means he's a socialist, has vowed to freeze rent on all rent-stabilized apartments in the Big Apple.
Analysts have warned the move could hurt building owners already grappling with higher costs as constraints on their ability to raise rents might make it more difficult for some to repay their debt.
Politicians continue to march down a perilous path for rent-regulated multifamily, rent-regulated, multifamily, is there a word there?
You're describing something.
With allowable rent increases lagging expense growth, brokerage Stevens said.
New York's real estate sector has already been reeling under pressure as higher interest rates strained borrowers, while the post-pandemic adoption of remote working left office buildings vacant.
Mandani's policies could lead to more selective corporate spending and hiring in the city and more out-migration of individual families, reducing the need for growth of office leasing.
Mizuho analyst Vikram Malhothotra wrote in a note to clients on Wednesday, dubbing it the Zoran effect.
SL Green owns 25.3 million square feet of property, 96.6 of which is in Manhattan, including 95.1% of commercial property and 1.4% of residential property.
Vornado holds 75.1 of its square footage in New York.
Let's not forget Donald Trump owns a lot of real estate in New York as well.
He stands to lose some money here.
They go to mention an estimated $16 to $18 billion of Flagstar's multifamily loan portfolio would be impacted by a rent freeze, according to Deutsche Bank analyst Bernard von Gezicki.
They go to mention that Flagstar stock, blah, blah, blah.
We get it.
We get it.
The prices are collapsing.
New York's already reeling.
This is going to be fantastic.
These people think that it's going to make rents go down and it's going to be better for their state.
It's not.
Now, don't get me wrong.
There are problems.
Zoran's got a viral video where he points out that you can't get permits to sell food in the city.
So what happens is these halal carts, they call them, and I used to eat this stuff all the time.
It's amazing.
They chop the chicken up.
They put it over rice, some zaziki sauce, 10 bucks.
And this is how the dude wins.
He goes to the guy and he says, how much does it cost?
They go 10 bucks.
He asks a bunch of guys.
He says, why?
And they say, we've got to pay the permit owner a share of all the money we make every month.
So to pay our rent and to pay our bills, we add a premium on top to pay the permit holder.
It's like, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Why does some other guy own the permit and then let you run a business off his permit?
That's the way the city operates.
It's crony BS.
Now, by all means, that's wrong, but that's an administrative problem, not an issue to be solved by communism or anything like that.
So what happens is if Zoran is willing to address those problems, and let's be real, Cuomo is the alternative, he wins, at least the primary.
You go to people and say, let's get rid of the entrenched bureaucracy, and they're going to cheer for you.
Zoran basically said, let's get rid of the waste, fraud, and abuse and allow people to run their own food carts.
What's going to happen instead?
Well, the dude's policies are plum nuts.
And it's beyond just pointing out an obvious issue.
But this is how communists tend to do it, my friends.
You present a real problem that needs a solution.
Focus on what the people are complaining about.
And in your back pocket, you advocate for psychotic things.
Now, look, freeze the rent.
Your average worker doesn't understand how real estate markets work.
So when you tell them this, they say, good, I don't want to pay more rent.
But they don't understand the after effect of this.
This is why I think the fourth turning, it's a major concern.
And I don't know there's an actual solution for it.
If you go to a young person and try to explain to them something they can't fathom because they've never experienced it, they're going to ignore you.
So what happens is, unless the problem actually emerges and people experience it, they're going to vote against their own interest.
And I don't know that they can be educated as to otherwise because they'll just call you a liar.
But I'll put it this way: as I've explained now in several videos, you cannot rent out property at a lower cost than the cost to run the property.
So you've got to factor in wear and tear, taxes, depending on how you're handling your utilities.
Water, I think, is often paid by the building owner, not by the tenant, largely due to they don't track water usage.
It's just per building.
And so there's a lot of fixed costs.
If at the end of a rental, normal wear and tear is going to cost more than they paid in rent, plus you got to hire a superintendent and you got to pay your permit fees and all of that.
Okay, they're going to say, I got to charge $2,500 in rent to make this work.
Why?
The super says food costs more.
He wants a higher salary.
Can't do it.
I don't rent it out.
What do you get?
You get empty buildings that nobody wants to fix and you get slums.
That's where we are going with rent freezes.
There's no easy way to handle this.
Part of the problem is at the Federal Reserve level, at the federal level, the mass spending, the stripping of U.S. assets and savings through deficit spending and the creation of money upon the issuance of debt results in inflation.
Basically, they're flooding the market with excess cash.
They're giving money to people who aren't producing so the U.S. government can make them do jobs they want done without actually having cycled economic value into the system.
So basically, if one guy's got to do a job for another guy, you know, guy says, I'll grow the wheat, you make the bread.
The U.S. government comes in and says, we're going to make money, do literal nothing and buy the bread.
So now there's a deficit of labor going into the system.
So it's not all New York's fault this stuff happens.
Federal government has a big problem.
Now, he also wants to freeze, I'm sorry, he wants to create grocery stores run by the government, which is going to drive away these gristides.
This guy, John Ketzimatitis, says he's going to get rid of his supermarkets there.
We talked about this the other day, which of course is going to create red lines.
I'll give you the simple version.
I think the real challenge that we're facing right now is that communism is on the rise.
I can break down all of his policies as I did yesterday, explain why he's nuts and why it's going to burn down New York.
But the reality is young people are increasingly communist.
And what does that mean?
When communists get power and invariably destroy everything, they just lie again.
And if you're stupid enough to believe the first lies of communism, you're going to believe the second lies of communism.
Hence, you'll get Venezuela.
What happens with Venezuela?
They call it the revolution.
Even though they've been the entrenched bureaucratic government now for decades, they say they are the revolution.
When problems arise, Maduro or whoever just says it is the enemies of the revolution that are causing the problems.
And if only we had more socialism, things would be better off.
Communists and socialists in the United States say Venezuela is only doing poorly because of capitalist interference.
Or as Zorin Mamdani said, taxation isn't theft, capitalism is.
But what is capitalism defined as?
Communism, socialism, they're two sides of the same coin, basically.
Socialism is the economic system and communism is the political economic system.
So they largely mean the same thing.
Socialism typically refers solely to the workers controlling the means of production and the distribution of assets, whereas communism is the political system by which a socialist system is maintained.
So it's basically the same thing, right?
Because you can't really have one without the other.
Well, capitalism is the private trade of goods, meaning an individual has the right to trade their labor for whatever they see fit.
In socialism, you don't.
Your labor is taken.
So let's say you're a genius and you want to work 16 hours a day.
I love this.
We're in mixed economy in America and I'm getting fed up with it, to be completely honest.
I work 16 hours a day, as most of you know.
I do a morning show.
We do a skate show.
We're planning.
We're doing merch.
And then we've got administrative legal.
And then I do a nightly show.
I'm in bed around 11 p.m.
I'm awake around 7 a.m.
at work about an hour and a half later, 8.30 to 11.
So you do the math with a break for lunch in between.
So sometimes it's 12, sometimes it's 16, depending on what I got to do.
I have to pay extra taxes.
Because my extra work makes more money, they take more money from me, creating a diminishing return.
The more work that I do, the less fruits of my labor I actually get.
That's socialism, not capitalism.
If we were laissez-faire capitalists, I would just exponentially increase the amount I was generating with my hard work.
Now, I'm not a laissez-faire capitalist.
I think some government programs, tactician is fine, but socialists want to take it all.
Now, here's where it gets funny.
From the New York Post, communist group slams Mamdani for deceiving working class and making false promises.
Okay.
Well, hey, look.
We knew they were going to fight with themselves at some point.
Let's move on to the bigger threat that I see.
Why is Gen Z embracing socialism?
Trendy campus slogans ignore the oppression, suffering, and slaughter by communist regimes.
It's time to get real about history.
Well, my friends, it's a rise of communism, socialism, and also conservatism.
So actually, I don't know where I have it.
Is it over here?
Here we go.
Democratic pollsters shocked at Gen Z's conservative shift.
Well, the Atlantic says it's a myth of a Gen Z wave.
Nah, it's not a myth.
We actually are seeing a hyperpolarization.
The left is becoming substantially more extreme, and the right is also, I wouldn't say they're becoming more extreme, but they're becoming more entrenched in traditional and conservative values.
Not fascism, mind you, but, ladies and gentlemen, from YouGov.
Would Americans choose communism or fascism?
Fascinatingly, the U.S. today is 2% higher than January of 1939.
And fascism is down by 9 points.
So in 1939, the question is, if you had To choose between the two.
26% said communism, 48 said don't know or no opinion, and 26 said fascism.
A fairly even split.
In the UK, 74 said communism, and 26 said fascism.
How about them apples?
As of today, in the United States, 28% say communism, and 17% say fascism.
And that's pretty shocking, if you ask me, because communism and fascism both had their negatives substantially.
But communism went on to mass murder more people than any other political ideology in human history, with Mao Zetong having killed more people than any single individual.
Don't get me wrong, fascists were bad.
And fascism typically does get used to refer to the Nazis, although Nazism and fascism were slightly different.
We don't really care.
They were aligned, right?
And Hitler did a lot of really, really bad things, some of the worst in history as well.
Any genocidal maniac has reached that apex of evil.
But communists were substantially more successful in mass murder.
That's why it's crazy that anybody would choose either of them.
But where are we now?
The prediction is that Mamdani is going to win.
I'm not so convinced, my friends.
I am not completely convinced he will.
Right now, Polymarket has him at a 73% chance to win.
So if you bet $100 against him, you win $371 on polymarket.
I actually think it's possible he loses.
Andrew Cuomo is poised to drop out of mayoral race altogether following his primary loss.
They're calling this the coalition strategy.
It may be that Cuomo drops out and rallies behind Eric Adams, giving him the bump he needs to win.
But wait, there's more.
Bill Ackman is pledging to bankroll any NYC mayoral candidate capable of defeating Zoran Mamdani.
And this guy's got big bucks.
He's got lots of money to spend.
In all likelihood, I think Ackman ends up putting money behind Eric Adams.
As Cuomo drops out, Cuomo likely will endorse Adams, and Adams might actually win as an independent.
So a lot of people are counting their eggs before they hatched.
We don't know exactly what's going to happen in New York just yet, but already housing prices, shares in these firms are going way, way down.
So my friends, I can only tell you, it's going to get very, very interesting, to say the least.
Now, we've got a lot more to discuss.
We'll see what happens in New York.
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It wasn't thunder.
There was a massive rumbling and I'm like, whoa, what's going on?
Apparently a C-17 just flew overhead.
Real low.
I wonder what's going on.
We're very close to the DC area, but we're close to a National Guard airbase.
Interesting.
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We've got this from Fox News.
Trump and Hegseth seethe at fake news media for doubting U.S. strikes obliterated Iranian nuclear site.
Trump says, scum.
I have never seen Trump so angry.
This is fascinating.
Earlier this morning, we heard from Hegseth and Dan King.
The strikes on Iran, they report, obliterated the sites.
Hegseth said, if you want to figure out what's going on at Fordo, bring a shovel.
It's all buried and no one's getting in.
They showed evidence and said, based on the IAEA, Israel, and United States assessment, it looks like the strikes succeeded.
Now, of course, let me say this, first and foremost.
You guys know I'm a staunch anti-interventionist.
I am not a fan of the U.S. getting involved in these strikes.
But just like Solomani, if Trump is able to engage in his military activity without causing a war, then it's largely vanilla pudding.
I'm not happy with it, but it's not all that bad.
The fear we have is getting drawn out into entrenched, ongoing multi-decades wars.
And if Trump can avoid that, it is better than any other president in my life.
So, vanilla, right?
It is what it is.
But here's what happens.
CNN puts out this leaked report, which apparently was only one page, and omitted that it was an initial low confidence assessment.
Meaning after the strikes, they said, we don't actually know.
From the look of things, it might not be that much damage.
We'll have to wait and see.
CNN leaks it selectively.
The media then runs all around saying it didn't work.
And then when you actually get the Pentagon involved, Hegseth, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, as well as other nations, you don't got to like Israel, but Israel, who wants us bombing it, said actually they did it.
Now, of all people, this is funny.
Of all nations, Israel has all the reason to say we failed because they want more war with Iran.
But instead, their assessment was they've been set back years, and it would take years to reconstruct this.
The media is lying.
For whatever reason, it's just they plain hate Donald Trump.
Trump slams the press for reporting on government's own Intel report, Jake Tapper says.
Well, my friends, the media is smarmy.
They're full of it, and they lie.
And they do it because they need to have something other than what Trump said.
Now, to talk about this and the potential for real peace, we're going to be joined by Congressman Stutzman, who's going to be joining us right now as I pull all of this up.
And I believe he has a lot to discuss on, where's this silly link?
He has a lot to discuss on the Abraham Accords as well as the Powell meeting, which should be insightful and interesting.
So we are loading this up right now.
Looks like we are good.
Congressman, can you hear me?
Yes.
I can hear you fine.
Thank you for joining me.
I think we've got it going right now.
So the big story this morning, of course, was Pete Hagseth addressing the leaked Intel report, which said that the full report, of which I understand, was low confidence.
We are not sure we did enough damage or this is going to set them back more than a few months.
But now the full assessment from other nations, other organizations like the IAEA, as well as the full U.S. assessment is that this set them back years.
There's a couple of questions in regard to this.
How is this information getting leaked?
Because it seems like the insinuation is that it may have been leaked by Congress or somebody who was briefed on this.
And then just generally, why do you think the media ran with this story without full context?
Yeah, well, Tim, great to be with you.
I mean, you know, Washington, D.C. is full of sneaks, and especially with the ones that would like to do any sort of damage that they can to President Trump.
And, you know, the success that he is having, they just can't admit it.
The fact that, you know, it's not just Trump's success, it's the United States' success.
It's the world is a safer place today because we took out Iran's nuclear capabilities.
And that's something that they just can't admit to.
And it sounds like a reporter that perpetuated this story was the same reporter from CNN that pushed the Hunter Biden story that his laptop had nothing to do.
It was the disinformation that went along with that whole story came from CNN.
So that's the thing about the sad state of affairs with the fake news is that they just cannot report the news objectively.
And even if they want to be one-sided or the other, when good things happen for America and happen for the world, report it as such because we're in a better situation today because Iran's nuclear capability is destroyed.
You know what?
I totally understand kind of the aftermath, how much damage was done, did the bombs do their job, look at it.
But everybody, even the international agencies that look at this stuff consistently are saying that, yeah, the damage was done to the nuclear sites and that it's going to be very hard for Iran to start up their nuclear capabilities again at these particular sites.
But this is just fake news is normal, and that's why the American people are tuning them out.
It's surprising to me too, as well, because I'm fairly opposed to U.S. intervention, even just the airstrikes.
However, Trump seems to have navigated out of this with an end to the conflict altogether, which even has many of the staunch anti-interventionist personalities kind of shrugging, saying he did it.
He was able to get off a military strike without expanding any war in the region.
And that's what everybody really feared.
What I was really excited about with Trump's first term, of course, was the Abraham Accords as well as no new wars, which is why I was deeply concerned over these strikes in Iran.
But now it seems like this actually might pave the way for more peace in the region, of which many have said Iran is the principal agitator stopping the Abraham Accords.
I'm wondering if you can tell us a bit about what's going on in that regard and if we're going to see more peace and economic normalization.
Yeah.
No, well, and you know, I would just mention this real quickly as well, because Israel, of course, is there on the front lines next to Iran.
And so all of the intel was pointing to the fact that Iran did have nuclear capability.
They're very close to Obama.
And if they had enriched uranium and they were able to put the bombs together, they could produce almost nine bombs.
And Israel would have been the one that would have had to deal with it first, because there's no secret that Iran wants to annihilate and eliminate Israel.
And then, of course, it's death to Israel and it's death to America.
Well, what Trump did is he used the sledgehammer.
He didn't just come in with a hammer.
He used the sledgehammer and just took it out, took the threat out and warned them.
He even negotiated with them.
He gave them numerous chances to say, look, put down your nuclear program and we can find peace.
And I think that one of the biggest moments in all of this that all of us should really remember outside of President Trump being willing to drop the bunker busters and take out the threat is when he pulls Iran and Israel leadership together and says, and gets the ceasefire.
Well, the ceasefire didn't sound like it was going to hold long.
And who does he call first when it looked like both sides were going to continue shooting at each other?
He calls Prime Minister Netanyahu and says, turn the planes around.
I just think that's a very historic moment.
And Prime Minister Netanyahu's respect for President Trump is so great that he turns the planes around, brings them back home, because in that moment, it would have been easy to kind of say, we're going to go bomb them one more time.
And President Trump says, no, stop, turn around, bring them home, no more of this stuff.
And I think that's what a leader does.
And he's saying, you know, stop fighting.
And we took care of the problem.
Netanyahu still got off one strike, though.
And so it's putting the middle of the road.
Netanyahu wanted to go ahead with many more strikes.
And when Trump said no, he attacked one radar facility.
I view that as somewhat petty.
You know, it felt to me like Trump pointed out Iran fired off one missile.
Maybe it was a mistake.
No, I think Iran was like, we get the last word in this.
And then Israel was like, no, we get the last word in this.
Which is why Trump ultimately said the kids are going to fight in the playground.
And then the NATO chief somewhat regrettably called him daddy.
I see a little bit of disrespect, but admittedly, turning around those planes, he knew he was in a position where he couldn't defy Trump to a great degree and still got a front of these strikes.
But I guess the bigger question then is, the Abraham Accords, it's tremendous history.
The economic normalization between Muslim nations and Israel, are we going to see that peace expand to other countries in the region?
Yes, I believe so.
In fact, I was in Syria over the Easter break a couple of months ago and then just recently in Israel and had a lot of great conversations, met with the new president in Syria, President El-Sharra, and of course met with Prime Minister Netanyahu and talked with other leaders.
There's a real opportunity there.
In fact, I'm excited.
I mean, I think that we're just on the cusp of there being some, you know, we've always talked about peace in the Middle East.
There's always going to be differences.
There's going to be skirmishes.
But broadly, you look at where Saudi Arabia is compared to where they were a little over a decade ago.
I was in Saudi Arabia in 2014, was talking with their leadership.
And this was still, you know, 9-11 was in our rearview mirror.
And we're not going to forget that.
And Saudi Arabia has changed and has done things differently than what they used to.
The UAE, that's the model, actually, I believe, because a couple of things.
They joined the Abraham Accords and they don't teach hatred or killing Israeli or American soldiers in their curriculum in their elementary schools, unlike what they do in the Palestinian-controlled areas.
And so I think those are the two pieces, Nate, that really need to be used to flush out these countries is are you willing to join the Abraham Accords and what type of curriculum are you teaching in your schools?
So when I was meeting with President El-Sharra, I was surprised how he, you know, you always kind of watch their body language and how do they, you know, what excites them?
What kind of, when do they kind of pull back?
And I just sense that from him, when he started talking about commerce and trade in the Middle East, that's when he kind of got excited because he talked about trade lines through Syria, connecting the east to the west, talked about train line, you know, putting in rail lines, truck lines, and then also talked about tourism.
And, you know, the impact that tourism could have in Syria is incredible.
I mean, Damascus is one of the holy cities for Christianity, and that could have a huge impact.
If people could visit Jerusalem and then go to Damascus, that would be a huge opportunity for people from around the world to travel there.
So I think that that's all part of bringing Syria to the table and that President al-Shara, I felt like he genuinely wanted to go that direction.
I asked him specifically and told him, you know, the relationship with Israel is important to the United States.
How does he, what's his vision of that relationship?
And I asked him directly, you know, would you be open to joining the Abraham Accords?
And he said that he would.
He said there was some negotiation that would have to take place.
The one thing that was really important to him, and I think it's a good priority for him, is that he wants to keep Syria under a national flag, under a national banner as Syria.
He doesn't want it to be a sectarian government.
He doesn't want to have these divisions, you know, the Kurds in the north and the Druze in the southeast.
And, you know, you got the Muslims in other parts of the countries, the Christians, the Alawites.
And his goal is that everybody live together as Syrians, respecting one another.
And now he's got a big task.
But I'm optimistic.
Why don't we get this until Trump?
I don't understand.
Well, a couple of things.
I think that there is some reason to be rooting for Ukraine and for the Ukrainian military to be able to keep Putin engaged long enough that it's weakened Putin.
So Putin couldn't run down to Syria and defend Assad.
And Assad's always counted on Putin to bail him out.
And that just ran out.
And so when al-Shara and his military, his militia, finally came down from Idlib to the north and up by Turkey, they came down to Damascus, not a single fire was shot.
That's what's incredible is that if you would have told all of us there would be a regime change in Syria without a battle or some sort of war, I don't think any of us would have believed it.
But President Al-Shara was able to orchestrate all this, come down to Damascus, Assad flees with his billions of dollars up to Russia, wherever he's at now, and Al-Shara and his government takes over.
So Al-Shara has a checkered past, but he's the one that he got the job done and pushed Assad out.
And I'm optimistic.
But I think it was some timing, but also I couldn't believe how much support and love in Syria there is for President Trump.
There were billboards in the streets of Damascus saying, make Syria great again.
There was a sentiment that there was so much excitement that at that time that maybe the United States would lift the sanctions on Syria and that would be a huge economic boom for Syria, which ultimately President Trump did make that decision.
So I think it was timing, but it was also the leadership of President Trump that people know he's going to stand up and fight for them.
He was the one that held off a bunch of the Russians and the Syrian military, Assad's military, to go into Idlib back in 2018 and wipe out thousands of civilians, all in the name of going after terrorists.
And President Trump put a stop to that, and the civilians in Syria remember that.
It's pretty amazing to me.
I'm deeply critical of Obama's foreign policy.
I didn't support Trump in 2016, but when he came in and I saw the actions he had been taking towards peace, when he crossed the DMZ from South Korea to North Korea, shook hands with Kim Jong-un, the media attacked him for it.
And now we take a look at the past several years.
I know a lot of friends of mine are going to be very critical of U.S. involvement in Syria and Ukraine.
Trump didn't start those.
In fact, it seems like he's trying as hard as he can to clean it all up.
Under his first term, the Abraham Accords, Joe Biden gets in.
You can say whatever you want about how he did.
I know a lot of people are pissed off.
And then we get war again.
Trump comes in, and now we're starting to see peace again, which is why the Iran strikes were worrisome.
But it looks like Trump was able to get through that as well, ultimately resulting in a ceasefire and with a nuclear de-escalation.
As much as those strikes give pause to those of us who are concerned about war, I got to say, Trump is the peace president.
Certainly we can criticize some of the things because you're never going to get someone who's perfect.
But this is some of the best foreign policy leadership, if not the best, period I've seen in my lifetime.
I'm curious your thoughts, though.
In Congress, there's concern that he should be getting authorization before launching these strikes.
I know there's the war power resolution of 1973.
But ultimately, after so long, why did it take Donald Trump?
I don't understand why the old Republican Party or the Democratic Party weren't doing the things that he's doing now.
That's a great question.
I think part of it goes back to, you know, even Senator Lindsey Graham posted game on when there was an attack from Israel to Iran.
And I think to him, that means something very different than probably what you and I believe it is.
This is not a game.
I mean, this is not something like, hey, we're going to cheer for a war here.
We shouldn't be cheering for war.
We should actually be cheering for peace.
And that's where I think the old neocon school of thought is peace through strength.
But President Trump has done is he's added something to that.
It's peace through strength and prosperity.
And that's where I believe people, if they have the opportunity to, and again, this isn't going to be everybody, but in general, most civilizations, if you watch, look at the UAE.
That's a good example of it.
Look at Saudi Arabia.
Look at these countries that were undeveloped, you know, 50 years ago that have come a long ways because of oil and other opportunities that they have, you know, shipping.
When there's commerce, there's not chaos, like President Trump said.
And when there's technology and there's a way to build, I think there's a part of all of us as human beings that we like to build.
Now, if there's an enemy and people, you know, they killed your father or they killed your family, there's always this back and forth and it's got to stop.
At some point, you got to say, put it behind you.
I mean, you just got to forgive the sins of the past.
If people can agree to that and start building, even if you don't have to be the best of friends, but you don't have to go attack one another.
One of the things that I think was really interesting, I was talking with the president of Kosovo a couple of weeks ago, and she's a young 40-something president of Kosovo.
And she said, and this goes all the way back to our U.S. policy under President Clinton, but it does kind of give us an idea, an example of what American policy can be and should be, is that Kosovo has been a war-torn country for years and years.
And she told me, she's very Trumpy.
She said that she wants to join the European Union in Kosovo, but she has to dial the Trump talk down a little bit because, of course, Europe is not where they used to be.
And they're always looking to us to lead anyway outside of Churchill, of course.
But she said that because of the United States, her young children are the first generation of Kosovoans in a thousand years who have not seen war.
And I think that's what shows all of us here in America where we don't see war on our streets like other countries do.
We have our issues, but we don't see what they see in Kosovo for thousands of years of just war and constantly.
They're now experiencing peace and people like it.
I even sensed that in Syria with folks that they're so tired of war.
They're so tired of fighting.
They want to have peace.
I went to a Christian church.
They were telling me, you know what, we have no problem with our Muslim neighbors.
They're not attacking us.
We want to live together in just peace and respect for one another.
You know, that's what grown-ups do.
We find a way, you know, we can agree to disagree, but we don't have to shoot each other over it.
I'm excited to hear about the potential for the expansion of the Abraham Accords.
Now, taking it back home, many people who are just upset over the whole scenario with war are saying we need to get back to our domestic agenda, and Trump should be focused on the big, beautiful bill, migration.
I'm curious your thoughts on the current state of Trump's, you know, big, beautiful bill as he's calling it, and what you think we should be focusing on here at home.
Yeah, you know, it's exciting.
I mean, the big, beautiful bill is really important to keep, you know, taxes from going up and grow this economy.
One of the things, you know, I come from the business world and come from family business, farm family, manufacturing, logistics.
We were in the restaurant business.
So our families covered a variety of sectors.
And I know how hard it is, especially going through COVID.
What government did to small businesses and businesses across the country was devastating to people.
People lost their livelihoods because the government shut down the economy and then tried to pay them back some other way with taxpayer money through the government, which wasn't the solution at all.
But this big, beautiful bill is going to extend the Trump tax cuts from 2018, make them permanent.
It's going to really focus on growth.
And that's how we're going to get out of our debt and our deficits.
I'm a budget hawk.
And one thing that I believe the greatest threat to the United States is our debt and deficits.
$36 trillion of debt, you Throw interest on top of that.
We're paying about a trillion dollars a year in debt service on our debt.
That's equal to our military, and we're spending more on our military than we ever have.
But Washington just doesn't seem to have any appetite to cut spending.
And that's where President Trump, Elon Musk, the Doge team did a huge service to not only the American people, but actually did a huge service to Congress.
I was actually in a meeting yesterday with Speaker Mike Johnson, and he was saying the same thing that we've all, a lot of us have experienced.
We're trying to find out where is the money going.
And when you write these agencies and ask where is the money going, they tell you what they want you to hear.
They don't tell you the truth.
And what the Doge team has done and what the Trump administration has done is actually going right to the Treasury.
A billion dollars an hour is what leaves the Treasury.
And that's a number that we can't even imagine.
But if you think about it, a billion dollars an hour, if somebody figured out a way to get into the Treasury to get payments for some sort of contract in the past and the Treasury keeps making payments on it, do you think they call them up and say, hey, you don't have to send us that money anymore?
Stuff like that happens.
It's sloppiness.
It's irresponsible.
And I think that that's what the Doge team and what the Trump team are doing to focus on getting spending under control.
But we've got to grow this economy as well.
Yeah, there was one of the stories during the Doge arc, I'd call it, when Elon was in there, where it was like a single page demanding the Treasury pay like a billion dollars.
And they were like, what is this?
And it was like an invoice for a billion dollars and nobody knew what it was.
And they're like, let's just not pay it.
And there's tons of those.
It reminds me of like, you know, I've known people like this.
I'm sure a lot do.
Their parents or their grandparents were rich and they're in college and got a credit card and they're like, I don't know, shrug.
Who wants expensive drinks?
And they just spend money.
They have no idea where it comes from.
They have no idea how it was earned.
And we effectively have that in government now.
There is a concern.
I think the big concern Rhett Massey as well as Senator Rand Paul have is that the Big Beautiful Bill still does add to the deficit, at least on the surface.
There's an argument that if we actually deal with the issues of immigration and implement some of what's in the bill, our costs will go down in other areas.
I'm curious if you think that's correct or how you view it.
It is.
And Rand and Thomas are great friends of mine.
And they're not wrong in the sense that, you know, but here's the difference.
And this is Washington's math.
This is the way Washington looks at it.
So they say if you cut taxes, it's less revenue to the government.
So therefore, that's a cost.
They call that even spending, which, you know, we've even fallen into that narrative and said, oh, if you cut taxes, you're spending money.
Well, no, the government is losing that money.
The government's not going to get that revenue from those taxes.
But because of the way Congressional Budget Office scores our bills, keeping the tax cuts in place, they're calling that like a trillion dollar spend.
Well, it's not.
It's just foregoing that money.
Here's an interesting important fact as well.
Because we have hovered around 2.5% GDP growth, even down, we're pushing down towards the 2% mark during the Obama years.
For every percent GDP that we lose, that's a trillion dollars in revenue.
So because we have fallen away from the 3% GDP growth that we've been used to for so long as a country, that's where a lot of the revenue has been lost.
Spending is still out of control.
There's still spending to cut and reforms to be made.
But that's why it's important to have a growing economy.
So that way there is tax revenue.
But at the same time, in the Big Beautiful Bill, the only spending that's in there that is like cash going out from the Treasury is for defense and for the border.
All of the others is basically just eliminating, you know, keeping the tax cuts low and then also the EV tax credits.
You know, those are going away.
So they all count those as expenditures.
And it's the different ideology between how the left looks at economics and how the right looks at economics.
I'll love me some tax cuts.
I think it's a good direction.
I always leave money with the American tax bank.
Absolutely.
We got a little bit of time, so I'm curious your thoughts.
Obviously, the big story of the past couple of days outside of Iran was Zoran Mamdani's victory in New York City.
He's an avowed socialist.
And this is the younger generation that helped him win.
I'm curious what you think is going to happen in the midterms, because the prediction made by many of these leftists is leftism defeats establishment democratic policy or campaigning.
What do you think is going to happen in the midterms?
You think we're going to see a big socialist push from new candidates?
Or do you think they just, you know, what happens?
It's a great question.
And, you know, one that's scary, frankly, because you look at, you know, historically, the President's Party loses.
I think it's only happened twice where the President's Party actually maintained the majority in the House.
I was part of the first Tea Party wave back in 2010.
Of course, that was President Obama's first midterm, and he loses badly because of Obamacare.
But I'm optimistic.
There's a lot of sense of optimism because the Democrat Party hasn't necessarily learned from their losses and why President Trump won.
And I think that they've been doubling down on the policies that they were telling the American people are so great.
I mean, I was chairing the floor earlier today, and I couldn't believe, again, how many Democrats were coming to the floor talking about defending illegal immigrants.
I mean, this is one that us as American people, we're like, you know what?
Why don't you start defending the legal people that are here rather than defending the illegals that came over here illegally?
And so I think that the Democrats continue to double down on these very unpopular positions.
They have taught socialism to a lot of their children over time.
And it's scary to think that that's where New York City's at.
I mean, how many years ago was it that we had, even Bloomberg was at least somewhat of a free market sort of a Person with ideas, but since Rudy Giuliani, we've gone far, far left.
And I think that's where our big cities, Nate, I really truly believe that New York, the state of New York, and the state of California and the state of Illinois are the biggest hurt to the federal government because they continue to take and take.
California's reimbursements just on Medicaid alone is about $160 billion a year.
That's larger than the entire state budget of Florida.
These states continue to take more and more and give to illegals, and I think it's going to come back to haunt them in the primary, or in the next election.
That was the big thing with the salt deductions.
Basically, these blue states get it free because they pay less in federal taxes.
They pay more to themselves.
But there is still some speculation that this Mamdani guy might lose because you'll get a moderate and Republican coalition against him.
I'm not entirely sure, but I think the takeaway from it is the younger generation of left-leaning Americans are socialist or communist, and that's going to have an effect across the country.
Now, with the issue of the midterms, I'm wondering if, you know, you mentioned correctly, historically, the president's party loses the midterms.
But man, if they keep taking these 80-20 issues and going on the wrong side, like defending illegal immigrants, they might break the trend.
So I suppose we'll see.
Any quick final thoughts before we take off?
I think it's possible.
And, you know, I'll say this one other thing.
You know, we talked about this a little earlier with the Middle East and the curriculum that's taught in the Middle East.
It's the same fight that we have here at home.
We need to make sure that our curriculum across the country and across the schools, school districts in the United States is teaching curriculum that teaches American values rather than teaching socialism, that socialism is somehow a good form of government.
AOC, if she becomes the face of the Democrat Party, I think they'll be in the wilderness for the next 40 years.
Right on.
Well, Congressman, thank you so much for joining me.
Is there somewhere people can find more from you?
Yeah, check us out on all of the social media platforms at RepStutsman is our handle on all of those at RepStutsman.
I'd love for people to check us out, engage.
And you know what?
We've got to keep fighting to make America great again.
Right on.
Well, thanks so much for hanging out.
We'll see you next time.
Great to see you.
Thanks.
Take care.
All right.
That was Congressman Sutzman.
Very cool.
He, man, he's been all over.
He's been all over the Middle East.
And, you know, when we're doing these preps for interviews and we're trying to figure out who the guest for the morning show is going to be, they came and they said he's working on the Abraham Accords, which I think is one of the most exciting, tremendous successes of Trump's first term and history.
Trump set himself up with this insane task of bringing peace to the Middle East, which is considered to be a meme.
And Trump was like, I'm going to do it.
And he's trying so hard.
And bless him for it.
I hope he pulls it off, man.
I really do.
If, you know, I'm thinking about it as such men talking about Ukraine pushing back on Russia and all those things.
And I'm like, I don't like any of this.
I don't like the U.S. involvement in Ukraine.
You guys know it.
I don't like the U.S. involvement in Syria.
Y'all know it.
But Trump didn't start those things.
They were started before him and technically in between.
Trump's working as hard as he can to solve this.
And I'm loving it.
I'm not a fan of how Syria fell apart, U.S. propaganda efforts, Kuter Turkey pipeline and all that.
But what matters right now is are we going to get peace?
And if they've got a new government and that new government wants normalization, commerce, train railroads and all that stuff, man, we really have an opportunity for this generation to bring about something awesome.
And think about how they insulted and demean and lie about Trump every single day.
Remarkably, Donald Trump does something that I don't like with this strike on Iran.
But afterwards, he stabilizes a ceasefire, at least so far.
And the remarkable thing is, if Trump is able to pull that off, denuclearizing Iran, at least for a few years, without creating a war, even with my concerns and criticism, it is the best foreign policy ever performed in my lifetime.
No new exacerbated conflict in the Middle East.
So I'm feeling pretty good.
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