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The L.A. riots have escalated quite a bit. | ||
The question is, do they continue into the weekend or do they kind of just fizzle out? | ||
Well, based on the No Kings protest that we're expected to see, sponsored in part by Christy Walton, there's a lot of concern that this is growing into something greater than just another riot. | ||
In fact, some are saying it could be Summer of Love 2.0. | ||
Well, we've been wondering when that would be. | ||
But there is another question being brought up by the media. | ||
Hey, hey. | ||
I didn't make this stuff up. | ||
Everybody looking at me, huh? | ||
No, the corporate press as well as many media outlets are weighing in the possibilities of civil war. | ||
In fact, you had Adam Kinzinger say that Newsom should activate the National Guard in defiance of federal authority so that there is a battle between the state and federal government as to whether or not the feds can actually control a National Guard. | ||
In other words, calling on the state, That's where things get interesting, I suppose. | ||
We've got an article from the Mirror saying that civil war is here. | ||
MSN.com. | ||
Civil war has never been closer. | ||
Now, to be fair, maybe just clickbait. | ||
They're writing it because now's the time to write it. | ||
But I do believe, I do believe, that we are seeing escalation once again. | ||
And we've been on this track for hyperpolarization and political divide for some time, which is pushing us towards this question of, is the only thing separating us in the United States from an actual civil war is the willingness of a blue state governor at this point to call upon the National Guard to actively defy the federal government? | ||
Should something like that happen, we must then entertain the next question. | ||
Will other Democrat governors join? | ||
These rogue states, this rogue state? | ||
Or does Trump just get to sweep through with exactly what he wants? | ||
You see, we've got some big questions right now. | ||
Generations of individuals in this country who are flying a foreign flag. | ||
They're flying the Mexican flag right now in California, saying this is not their country. | ||
They're allegiant to Mexico. | ||
This is what happens when you get birthright citizenship and amnesty to people who are not citizens. | ||
Well, the birthright citizenship to the children of people who are not citizens and then give them amnesty. | ||
Guess how they vote? | ||
This has been going on for some time now, which brings us to a difficult point. | ||
Will Donald Trump actually arrest and charge these individuals with sedition? | ||
A viral video of a fat Mexican woman. | ||
I'm not trying to be a dick, but literally she says, and she's obese, that California is Mexico and they will take their land back. | ||
Okay. | ||
And then you have a soldier, a video of a now-discharged soldier in full uniform saying the military should stand against the Trump administration. | ||
These are questions we often ask when we are entering periods of civil strife and civil war. | ||
I mean, we ask, where are the signs? | ||
What are they going to be? | ||
Now, because of normalcy bias and optimism bias, some people might see an individual in their military uniform now being discharged. | ||
Calling for the military to defy Trump, they'll say, it means nothing. | ||
It means nothing. | ||
Yeah, maybe. | ||
Maybe. | ||
But let's take a look. | ||
There's other challenges we have now, especially with this Minnesota Democrat admitting to have entered the country illegally. | ||
And the law states that if this is found to be true, it is the duty of the government to seek and revoke that citizenship. | ||
But what do you think happens if Trump does that? | ||
So I ask you guys who are watching, comments. | ||
Let me know what you think. | ||
Is this just another riot? | ||
It's going to pass like anything else. | ||
Or is this the crack, the final breaking point, where Donald Trump seeks to deport tens of millions of illegal immigrants, dramatically stripping Democrats of their illicit political power that they've been amassing and stealing for generations? | ||
J.D. Vance points it out in a video. | ||
The estimates are that Democrats have, or I should say this, Republicans would have a 27-seat majority if they did not tolerate illegal immigration. | ||
Democrats bolster their congressional representation through non-citizens who are counted in the census and electoral college votes, meaning the will of the American voter is being stripped away in favor of non-citizens. | ||
Now we have this. | ||
148 Democrats voted to allow non-citizens to vote in federal elections. | ||
D.C. jurisdiction. | ||
Now, I should clarify, it was a vote to ban them from being able to, and the Democrats said, no, we're not going to ban that. | ||
What happens? | ||
What happens in this country? | ||
What do you do? | ||
The question really comes down to this. | ||
If non-citizens are actually voting in our elections, and the right says we don't care, okay, then you lose your country. | ||
The left can say Donald Trump is going to mass deport the illegal immigrants and strip us of our power in the Democratic Party. | ||
Okay, Donald Trump wins, and well, there you go. | ||
Or there could be a fight between the two. | ||
So let's take a look at the news. | ||
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Let's read the news here from Newsweek. | ||
Donald Trump weighs in on civil war concerns. | ||
Really? | ||
On Monday, President Trump was asked about Democratic California Governor Gavin Newsom's remarks that his Republican administration wants a civil war on the streets amid ongoing protests against raids by L.A. Immigration and Customs Enforcement. | ||
The president was asked by a reporter, what do you make of the fact that Newsom says you want a civil war? | ||
Trump responded, no, it's the opposite. | ||
I don't want a civil war. | ||
Civil war would happen if you left it to people like him. | ||
Maybe we're all crazy, right? | ||
Tim Poole is just a crazy guy talking about civil war. | ||
It's never going to happen. | ||
I love this talking point, however. | ||
At the first battle of Bull Run, I believe that was like the second battle of the American Civil War, people were picnicking. | ||
Because they said there's no civil war. | ||
And they watched as the soldiers marched. | ||
Despite the fact, historically, we say the battle, the first battle was Sumter. | ||
The civil war had already started. | ||
These people didn't believe it. | ||
Well, here's our friend Stephen Colbert. | ||
What say you, Stephen? | ||
This is day four. | ||
Day four of Donald Trump's war on anyone who didn't vote for him. | ||
We taped this at about six o 'clock. | ||
So I don't know if we're in a full-blown civil war yet, but if... | ||
Let's just play that beginning one more time. | ||
This is day four. | ||
Day four of Donald Trump's war on anyone who didn't vote for him. | ||
It's day four of riots in Los Angeles that Trump did not start. | ||
That rioters in Los Angeles started. | ||
But sure, he says, if we have split in two, I call shirts. | ||
Every joke has its truth. | ||
I'll just say this. | ||
He's not joking. | ||
He's joking about which side he'd be on in a civil war. | ||
The joke is not that civil war can't happen. | ||
That's actually the implied truth of the joke. | ||
Okay, but maybe I'm full of it, right? | ||
Maybe I'm just looking too hard. | ||
Okay. | ||
Sam Tripoli, what's up, Sam? | ||
He posted this. | ||
This is from two years ago. | ||
Two years ago, Sam was on Rogan. | ||
Look at that smiling face right there. | ||
Who's that, Brian Callen? | ||
Am I getting his name wrong? | ||
Anyway, here you go. | ||
You had a conspiracy for us at dinner, but Joe made you wait. | ||
What was it? | ||
You had a conspiracy for us at dinner, but Joe made you wait. | ||
What is it? | ||
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Yeah, that's right. | |
What was it? | ||
Which one was it? | ||
What's going to happen? | ||
Do you want to know what's going to happen? | ||
With what? | ||
In this country. | ||
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Okay, yeah. | |
You want to hear now? | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
Tap me in. | ||
We're in the Bolshevik war right now, bro. | ||
This gay pride stuff is going away. | ||
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And the next thing you're gonna see, So we start with that breaking news, calamity and chaos in the city after a second day of ICE raids on undocumented immigrants. | |
The raids led to more violent clashes between federal agents and protesters, with President Donald Trump now deploying the National Guard, he says, to restore order. | ||
And I'm telling you, they're moving. | ||
And this is what's going to be right around 2024 election. | ||
Immigration riots. | ||
People going nuts. | ||
And, dude, study the Bolshevik war. | ||
It is happening in real time. | ||
100%. | ||
I just wanted to get that out to everybody because I'm trying to warn people. | ||
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This is what's next. | |
Interesting, huh? | ||
Now, he did get something wrong. | ||
He said it'll be right around the 2024 election. | ||
Technically, we are still right around there. | ||
We're just, you know, seven or eight months after it, right? | ||
Well, here's the thing. | ||
What he got wrong was that they're not going They're not going to have these riots and revolutionary tactics before they have a chance to formally seize government. | ||
If they could just win the election, they would. | ||
Only after losing do we see that dramatic escalation. | ||
Now this is where I think it's important to consider just how serious this conflict is. | ||
Wall Street apes with the Post. | ||
Take a listen to J.D. Vance. | ||
This is an important point. | ||
Again, I didn't realize this until a few weeks ago. | ||
California has five more congressional representatives. | ||
Take a look at this image. | ||
This is, without illegal aliens, Republicans would have a 27-seat advantage in the House. | ||
The distribution of illegals in Democrat-controlled cities give the Democratic Party at least 10 additional seats in the House of Representatives. | ||
If the illegals were removed from the country or removed from the census calculations for apportionment, the Republicans would have a 27-seat advantage. | ||
Why? | ||
Minus 10 Democrat, plus 10 Republican. | ||
That's how you get that advantage. | ||
Now consider this. | ||
Democrats have extra votes in Congress, have extra votes in the Electoral College. | ||
This is cheating by a substantial amount. | ||
Now there's this viral video which I think is really funny. | ||
And it's just a message from somebody on the ground. | ||
Everybody thought this was Wyatt Russell. | ||
It's not. | ||
It's a Democrat guy. | ||
But listen to what he has to say to the National Guard. | ||
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Feel tough with your assault rifles and your sticks? | |
You should be standing here with us. | ||
You're on the wrong side of history. | ||
We know you've got a job to do, but you took an oath to the Constitution, not to the fascists in the White House. | ||
And they go on to say that it's not Wyatt Russell anyway, but I don't know if the guy, the guy is Aaron Fisher, former Ohio House Democratic Caucus staffer. | ||
Now, I just pulled that one up because I thought it was a little bit funny. | ||
But I bring it up because it shows you the sentiment of the people on the ground. | ||
The National Guard should defy the orders of the president. | ||
Ah, who's this guy? | ||
He's some random guy in a protest. | ||
Who cares? | ||
Well, he was a Democratic staffer. | ||
My point is, the direction this country is going based on the youth and the political factions is toward calling for active defiance of the chain of command. | ||
Adam Kinzinger, he's a Democrat, let's be real. | ||
He says, I'm not sure why Gavin Newsom doesn't activate the rest of his army guard to prevent the president from it or force him to overrule it, then fight on the Second Amendment, guaranteeing a state a right to a militia. | ||
How can a state have a militia if the president can simply federalize it against the direct wishes of the governor? | ||
Okay. | ||
Yeah, he's basically saying that Newsom should activate his guard so it defies Trump's federal I just got to tell you, okay, we're not there yet. | ||
But I've been talking about these stories. | ||
They've been popping up. | ||
Look at this one. | ||
The Mirror. | ||
Los Angeles is just the start of a big, beautiful civil war coming to America. | ||
Here's MSN. | ||
Guns, rage, and division. | ||
America's close to a second civil war. | ||
What else do we have? | ||
Milwaukee independent. | ||
MAGA's vision of a second civil war dangerously misreads. | ||
Mother Jones, will Trump force America to break up? | ||
Heavens me. | ||
ABC, more troops in L.A. than Iraq and Syria. | ||
Oh, me oh, my oh. | ||
These articles pop up periodically, and maybe they're just clickbait. | ||
I don't think it's fair to say that we are in civil strife. | ||
The civil rights movement was civil strife. | ||
It did not become a civil war. | ||
Who knows? | ||
Maybe these things calm down. | ||
It's possible. | ||
It's possible Trump just wins. | ||
But everybody said to me, years ago, if there's actually going to be a civil war, you would need states calling on their National Guard against the federal government. | ||
That's not going to happen. | ||
Happened in Texas already. | ||
Under the Biden administration, Texas sent its state guard out in defiance of federal authority. | ||
Well, now federal authority has flipped. | ||
Maybe that's indicative of there's not going to be a civil war, because now Trump's in command, and ICE and CBP are operating under his orders. | ||
California, on the other hand, may defy as well. | ||
Yeah, we are dangerously close. | ||
We've been dangerously close. | ||
We're teetering on the edge, but honestly, I don't know. | ||
I can only say, hope for the best, prepare for the worst. | ||
But here's the mirror.co.uk. | ||
They say, peaceful protests are rebellion. | ||
Hispanics are illegal and up is down in Trump's America. | ||
Says Fleet Street Fox. | ||
There will be a civil war before this man is through. | ||
Really? | ||
So let me ask you. | ||
Trump aside, should we allow non-citizens in this country to vote? | ||
Should we allow Democrats to bolster their congressional seats by operating illegally as sanctuary states in violation of federal law? | ||
If the answer is yes, we don't have a country anyway. | ||
If the answer is no and they don't stop, how is that Trump's fault? | ||
I don't care about Trump. | ||
What must we do to stop Democrats from cheating? | ||
Indeed. | ||
He writes, or I'm assuming it's he, it was a hot, wet day in June as the tear gas rained upon the land of the free. | ||
Peaceful protesters, live streamers, and the ready-to-be-angry were pepper-sprayed. | ||
You're lying. | ||
We've all seen the videos and the footage of the riots that started, but sure. | ||
Those two most dangerous foes of tyranny, innocent bystanders and journalists, were fired upon with purple bolts and stun grenades. | ||
And America is such a great—I have been—I covered civil unrest in the United States, and I will tell you this. | ||
Sometimes, yes, the police start the conflict, start the chaos. | ||
That is not what we've seen in these videos and these photos. | ||
From the friends and reporters that we know on the ground, that is not what we've seen. | ||
I was in Ferguson, and the cops, for no discernible reason, a cop broke from his line, pulled a flashbang, walked up, and chucked it into a crowd of people. | ||
No warning. | ||
And that ignited a riot. | ||
Now, don't get me wrong, they had already rioted the nights before. | ||
But right now, at this point, when they did this, people were standing in the street and they were just milling about. | ||
Then the cop came and he threw a flashbang into the crowd. | ||
I was there. | ||
And then all of a sudden, everybody was running around screaming and then the looters came in and started smashing and destroying things. | ||
This is not one of those cases. | ||
Waymos were smashed and burned and destroyed. | ||
The riots kicked off and they pinned down ICE agents in a federal facility. | ||
But regardless, fine. | ||
You know what? | ||
Don't care. | ||
Blame whoever you want for the start of the conflict. | ||
The conflict is here. | ||
There's no convincing the liberals and I don't need to convince you. | ||
You guys know who started the riots. | ||
Rioters. | ||
The left will just claim Trump arbitrarily attacked them and they're going to believe it anyway. | ||
So here we go. | ||
If there's no reconciling these realities, it doesn't matter to argue because I'd be preaching to the choir. | ||
All that matters is, in terms of the practical realities, the conflict is here. | ||
They say it was a rebellion against the rule of law. | ||
I love this. | ||
They say these snub-nosed nonlethal rounds, four centimeters wide and ten centimeters long, tear flesh apart and usually stop before they reach an organ rather than pierce with deadly certainty of a nine millimeter hollow point. | ||
Oh, Mike. | ||
Bro, come on. | ||
First of all, expanding foam rounds are not going to reach your organs because they're foam rounds. | ||
It's foam. | ||
It leaves a bruise. | ||
Not even a bad one. | ||
I mean, like, medium, I guess. | ||
Pierce with deadly certainty of a 9mm hollow point. | ||
Okay, well, I'll give him a technicality. | ||
It does pierce and penetrate. | ||
To be fair, I think Pierce is an overstatement of what a 9mm hollow point does. | ||
It's a hollow point, so technically it's not supposed to pierce, okay? | ||
It penetrates and expands, all right? | ||
But whatever. | ||
Anyway, there were highway patrol troops with truncheons, blah, blah, blah. | ||
And they went to Home Depot, a donut shop, a clothes factory, and a warehouse. | ||
They did not find it necessary to take police with them. | ||
For in America, visa officials have the power to arrest, prosecute, and shoot whoever they please. | ||
You see how they write this stuff? | ||
This is the world they live in. | ||
Now, I think it's important for us to point out, my friends, all of these articles make clear from the left, if you're an illegal immigrant, you're out of bounds. | ||
No. | ||
They are now posting, oh my God, Trump's not even arresting criminals anymore. | ||
He's arresting migrants. | ||
Illegal immigrants. | ||
Now the report is they didn't actually go to Home Depot. | ||
Everyone's claiming it's true. | ||
Not entirely sure. | ||
So what? | ||
So illegal immigrants go hang out at Home Depot and ICE says, let's start rounding them up. | ||
I love it. | ||
They entered illegally. | ||
They're subject to deportation. | ||
Thank you and have a nice day. | ||
I love the idea that ICE will go to Home Depot, in fact, because now these illegal immigrants will not be hanging out there. | ||
People will stop hiring them. | ||
They'll stop subverting. | ||
The reason why California wants this, they want illegal immigrants to be able to live in this country so they can bolster their electoral vote count. | ||
They're cheating the elections. | ||
It's about time we got a lawsuit. | ||
Ken Paxton, somebody from a red state, sue California for illegal apportionment of congressional seats. | ||
Let's go. | ||
Now is the time. | ||
All right, what else we got? | ||
Guns, rage, and division. | ||
America is close to a second civil war. | ||
This is just a series of photographs of, you know, people in a variety of conflicts that have happened throughout this country. | ||
We have this from Milwaukee Independent. | ||
MAGA's vision of a second civil war is dangerously misreads America's fragmented political geography. | ||
No, it doesn't. | ||
Y 'all are dumb. | ||
There is no MAGA vision of a civil war. | ||
There are disparate views as to whether or not civil war could even happen. | ||
And many people on the right in the MAGA movement don't think it's possible. | ||
Some think it's inevitable. | ||
It's just kind of sporadic. | ||
They say calls for a second American civil war have become a persistent theme among extreme factions aligned with Donald Trump. | ||
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False. | |
This is just made up garbage, particularly the MAGA movement. | ||
These individuals frequently evoke images of 1861, blah, blah, blah. | ||
Nobody wants to live in a country where we are forced to fight to maintain control. | ||
The MAGA view is that Trump, as the duly elected president, already has that control and should enforce the law. | ||
They say 1861 was primarily a conflict between organized state governments. | ||
Eleven southern states ceded from the Union to create the Confederate States of America. | ||
Wrong. | ||
Only technically correct. | ||
It was seven. | ||
And it was only after the first battle, and then the first battle at Manassas, where several other states, four, decided to cede from the union after the fact. | ||
So, technically, now I say this because when they make these claims that 11 states seceded, Maryland was a slave state, too, that had sympathies with the South. | ||
But it was occupied, its state legislature was arrested. | ||
There's a lot more to this story than just saying 11 seceded. | ||
No, seven did. | ||
And then after Lincoln mobilized troops to invade the South, four more did as well. | ||
Not that the South was good. | ||
They wanted to put in their constitution, slavery was okay. | ||
Battle lines were clearly drawn along state boundaries. | ||
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False. | |
Delaware was also a slave state. | ||
Texas, I can't remember who it was, but I believe Texas' reason for joining the Confederacy was simple geography. | ||
They said, we're isolated on all sides. | ||
The Confederacy surrounds us. | ||
It makes no sense for us to be a part of a union we have no contact with. | ||
These people clearly have no idea what they're talking about. | ||
They say the basic conflict remained territorial. | ||
The Confederate and Union forces fought pitched battles, occupied territory and maintained formal government structures throughout the war. | ||
And that is just America. | ||
It says nothing about every other civil war or perhaps, as Sam Tripoli stated, the Bolshevik War. | ||
In contrast. | ||
The political and cultural divisions of 25 are not cleanly separated by state borders. | ||
Neither were Syrias. | ||
Every state, no matter how strongly Democrat or Republican, contains significant populations of both pro-Trump and anti-Trump citizens. | ||
So were the Confederate states! | ||
Man, people don't even bother to read or research. | ||
In Virginia, it was 2-1 in favor of the Union when seven states seceded. | ||
And it was only after Manassas and Lincoln mobilized troops to go to the South and quell the rebellion did the vote tallies flip. | ||
In Virginia, and Virginia actually split in half with West Virginia seceding from Virginia because of the conflict. | ||
So when they say, actually, there's a mix of pro and anti-Trump in each state, you never read a book, did you? | ||
My favorite is when people say, I go outside and I see no conflict. | ||
This is the lie they pushed during the Summer of Love riots. | ||
Some guy was on the Upper West Side of New York in Manhattan, and he's walking around being, I can't remember who it was. | ||
Was it? | ||
I don't want to say the wrong name, but some guy's like, oh no, look, over there, people eating ice cream. | ||
Oh no, people at a bookstore. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Because these people are propagandized by film. | ||
They think when war breaks out, neighbor fights neighbor. | ||
I assure you, in Atlanta, people weren't punching their neighbor in the street. | ||
The people in Atlanta were largely unified against the people who were in New York. | ||
And they agreed. | ||
The conflicts were in the contested areas of the borders. | ||
Now, why did Southerners fight in the Civil War? | ||
Slavery, eh. | ||
Slavery was the cause, principally, of the division which led to the Civil War. | ||
So it's simple enough to just say, I think it's stupid when people are like, it wasn't really slavery, the state's right. | ||
Well, yeah, okay, come on, get out of here. | ||
The area of contention was that the Southern states felt that Lincoln was going to ban slavery everywhere. | ||
And so they said, we won't be a party to this because we don't want that to happen. | ||
But why did people fight? | ||
Because they were invaded. | ||
The North said, you can't leave. | ||
The Union sent in troops. | ||
And Southerners said, no. | ||
Only around, I think, three to five percent of Southerners actually owned slaves. | ||
It was a small group of wealthy individuals. | ||
But I digress. | ||
These people don't actually know what they're talking about, nor do they read anything. | ||
Mother Jones says, will Trump force America to break up? | ||
He seems determined to try. | ||
Okay. | ||
Let me tell you this, my friends. | ||
Donald Trump isn't the one causing the country to break up. | ||
He is the one who is trying to preserve and sustain the Constitution and this country. | ||
I don't care if the left doesn't agree. | ||
I'm done arguing. | ||
You're not going to convince someone. | ||
I've debated these liberals. | ||
And we're going to keep debating, I'm sure. | ||
Hey, they arrested Trump's lawyers. | ||
Remember this? | ||
They arrested Trump's lawyers last year, the year before. | ||
And they go, as lawyers are criminals. | ||
Okay. | ||
That's it. | ||
We're done. | ||
Trump's lawyers were not criminals. | ||
They were just providing legal advice. | ||
The argument from this liberal lawyer we debated was, if a lawyer commits a crime, they should go to jail. | ||
Sure. | ||
If a lawyer is Saul Goodman, who's smuggling drugs and hiding drug money. | ||
But Trump hiring a lawyer to file paperwork and send letters is legal representation. | ||
They don't care. | ||
I'm done trying to argue it. | ||
I love this one, by the way. | ||
There's more U.S. troops in L.A. and Iraq than Syria. | ||
Indeed, they said it. | ||
So what do we do? | ||
Here's a question for you. | ||
Democratic lawmaker says she came to the U.S. illegally. | ||
I'm going to show you this. | ||
According to 8 U.S.C. | ||
1451, it is the duty of the U.S. attorneys to, upon affidavit showing good cause, therefore, to institute proceedings in any district court of the United States in the judicial district in which they were naturalized citizen may reside at the time of bringing the suit for the purpose of revoking and setting aside the order admitting such person to citizenship. | ||
Long story short, this law basically says in a rather mouthy way, if you obtain citizenship illicitly, it's hereby voided. | ||
If your parents received citizenship illicitly, yours as their child is also revoked. | ||
It doesn't matter how long. | ||
There's no time limit. | ||
So this Democratic lawmaker who says that her parents falsified documents to come to this country has now created probable cause by which the U.S. state needs to investigate. | ||
And should they find that this woman's story was true, her citizenship be revoked and she be removed from office? | ||
The question is, what do Democrats do when that happens? | ||
When Trump goes in with federal authorities to remove a sitting Democrat state rep? | ||
I mean, okay, maybe Democrats do nothing. | ||
And then Trump cleans everything up and America's restored. | ||
Maybe Democrats resist. | ||
With violence. | ||
You know, I guess the question is, will they win or will we win? | ||
But it's fair to say at this point, there are two factions fighting for control of one government. | ||
Now, my friends, we're going to be joined by Rudyard Lynch to discuss his views on history, potential civil war, and where we're going. | ||
He's made some predictions, so smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know. | ||
That interview will be coming up at 4 p.m. | ||
for those that are not watching this live. | ||
You can check that out at rumble.com slash timpool or youtube.com slash timcast. | ||
Thanks for hanging out, and we'll see you all then. | ||
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Thank you. | |
For everybody else, we shall continue. | ||
First, by kicking off with this story. | ||
From Fox News, 148 Democrats back non-citizen voting in D.C. as GOP raises alarm about foreign agents. | ||
I kid you not. | ||
Republicans wanted to ban non-citizens from voting. | ||
Democrats said, we don't want to do that. | ||
Democrats in numerous jurisdictions like in California and in New York have already passed or tried to pass non-citizen voting. | ||
That's the end of your country. | ||
The moment non-citizens can vote, they will start voting in the interests of other non-citizens. | ||
It's worse. | ||
A Democratic lawmaker in Minnesota says her family fraudulently came to this country and fraudulently gained U.S. citizenship, and now she's a Democratic representative in Minnesota. | ||
This looks like it's going to get really bad. | ||
Now, Donald Trump can take some action. | ||
He is taking action. | ||
The question is, will he take enough action to actually quell this? | ||
If he does, what will Democrats do? | ||
To talk about history and what's going on, we've got, let me pull this up, we've got Rudyard Lynch joining us. | ||
Let me get the camera set up and everything running. | ||
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Well, sometimes that happens. | ||
What can I do about it? | ||
We got him. | ||
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Rudyard, can you hear me? | ||
I can hear you loud and clear. | ||
Can you hear me? | ||
Indeed, I can, sir. | ||
Thank you for joining me. | ||
Do you want to just give a quick introduction as to who you are and what you do? | ||
Hi, thank you so much for having me as well. | ||
I'm Rudyard. | ||
I run a YouTube channel called What If Altist, which talks, I like to say, human nature across context. | ||
So politics, anthropology, history, that stuff. | ||
I've been on this show a few times already, and I'm widely known for my prediction that America will have a civil war in the next few years. | ||
Me too! | ||
Continue. | ||
Sorry, sorry. | ||
You were going to say something. | ||
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With the events in Los Angeles, it's really worrying. | |
And this was something I thought would happen, where if you check my channel from a few days ago, a day or two before the Los Angeles riots, I said, will the left use the Trump-Elon divide as a way to basically agitate? | ||
And I had options in a big way, in a little way, and not at all. | ||
And a majority of my audience thought the left would agitate in a big way. | ||
And look here, look where we are now. | ||
Yeah, it's a good point, actually. | ||
I hadn't considered that. | ||
There had been ICE raids ongoing for some time. | ||
We had seen people resist ICE officials and ICE officers, but it hadn't gotten to this extent until that moment. | ||
I don't know if I could say they're related, but what I wanted to ask you, you know, you have – I jokingly said – I have a prediction that we are on a track towards civil war, but I don't know if we ever crossed the threshold or how long it might take. | ||
There's an argument that we're in a cold civil war, which I think might be fair. | ||
There are two political factions fighting for control of our government. | ||
What's concerning to me is right now, fighting in the streets, riots, escalation. | ||
You've got calls from former politicians, Adam Kinzinger. | ||
For Newsom to order the National Guard in California to defy Trump effectively. | ||
And then you have the issue of Democrats using non-citizens to bolster their political power at the federal government. | ||
So you've, you know, on your YouTube channel, you've done a ton of research on all of these different conflicts, civil wars, revolutions. | ||
I know that, obviously, when you get violence in the streets, there's fear that it could escalate to a war. | ||
But what about the political nature of this? | ||
Democrats bring in non-citizens. | ||
They get counted in the census. | ||
They get extra congressional seats, extra votes in the Electoral College. | ||
That is a major point of this conflict right now. | ||
I'm curious if anything like that existed in other countries. | ||
Aristotle once said that it's the marker of a tyranny that the government brings in foreigners because the foreigners have no investment in that society. | ||
That goes back as far as you have records. | ||
It's normally the case that a corrupt government will hire foreign slave soldiers. | ||
That happened in Islam. | ||
It happened in Greece and Rome. | ||
It happened in India. | ||
And we have a more PC, less predatory version of that, but it's the same dynamic. | ||
So it's like, I mean, how much of this is like ancient Rome? | ||
A lot. | ||
That's one of the biggest parallels I pick, especially there's lengthy civilizational cycles. | ||
The one that we're the closest to is around 100 BC with the fall of the Roman Republic. | ||
Where Rome was split between two political parties, I have compared the Optimares to the Democrats and then, sorry, the Optimares to the Democrats and the Populares to the Republicans. | ||
What happened though is that the Populares or the Republicans But that led to, what, 200 years of empire? | ||
Yeah, I mean, the Romans controlled their entire known world for 600 years. | ||
And so you had a century of on and off civil wars. | ||
The thing to keep in mind with the ancient and medieval world is we'll read about a single century in a sentence and we'll forget that almost the entirety of someone's life was peaceful. | ||
So you had a century which was mostly at peace with several civil wars. | ||
Then you saw a shift from Rome being a republic to a military dictatorship. | ||
Do you think that's what's going to happen to us? | ||
Yeah, I think so. | ||
I don't think America will be a democracy in the 22nd century, at least not a de facto one. | ||
That's a long way for now, but what about in our lifetime? | ||
I mean, what are we going to call this? | ||
We're going to call this the Democrats or the Republicans? | ||
Do we call it the left and the right? | ||
In Rome, there were different words for those factions. | ||
Is whatever the right is going to win? | ||
Yeah, I think so. | ||
What does that look like? | ||
What's your prediction? | ||
Like, what happens? | ||
So, right is going to beat the left because the left, I can't get over how much the left screwed themselves over ideologically. | ||
The left made a series of incredibly poor decisions that dooms their long-term strategic ability. | ||
In my opinion, the only way they can get out of this is by just devolving. | ||
Into being a corrupt, pandering, nigh-communist organization. | ||
Which is the direction we're seeing. | ||
What were the mistakes? | ||
Just real quick. | ||
Oh, kicking white men out of the coalition means they're going to kick out the vast majority of new talent that's going to develop. | ||
Yep. | ||
Because when you look at outliers and statistical sets, the outliers tend to be white men. | ||
And with that on top of it, they valorize anyone who In their own worldview, if you succeed, they're going to find some reason to hurt you. | ||
So they have no incentive towards success. | ||
They cannibalize all the future leadership. | ||
They have no internal standards. | ||
So they just purity spiral over each other. | ||
And they have no attachment to reality in their own worldview. | ||
They've just shot themselves in the foot. | ||
And I don't think they had to make those choices at the start of this century. | ||
They just did. | ||
So if you want to follow the fall of the Roman Republic parallel, and I'm simplifying a process, right wins, right spirals into warlords. | ||
One of said warlords transforms America from a democracy to a de facto military dictatorship. | ||
And that would happen 70 years from now. | ||
After 70 years of civil war, one of the leaders keeps the forms of the republic, but then it's really a dictatorship. | ||
So right now in the short term, what can we expect to see? | ||
Is it going to be this prolonged street conflict, back and forth, political corruption for decades? | ||
That might happen in like a South American country, but Americans are too organized. | ||
When we want to kill each other, we'll do it on an industrial scale. | ||
You're right. | ||
That's so terrifying. | ||
It is. | ||
And so I think this, my read on this is the left is trying to escalate because they found a position where the right is at its weakest. | ||
I've been thinking they've wanted to escalate for a while. | ||
And this is the spot where Trump and Elon's coalition has been split apart. | ||
That's several things are concerning. | ||
The first is that these riots are operating on a quantum scale significantly larger than what we've seen before. | ||
And that goes unsaid, where there are thousands of American troops, National Guard troops in Los Angeles. | ||
The riots are large. | ||
I could get more into that, but the thing that this spread so rapidly to Phoenix in New York and across the country. | ||
And with these sorts of things, it's like a forest fire. | ||
A forest fire can hit critical mass and grow. | ||
I have been consistently incorrect in the past at predicting that a forest fire, once it hits a certain threshold, it's going to grow. | ||
there was talk about a civil war in the United States over the issue of slavery. | ||
And it took 41 years or around 40 years because, you know, conversations were over a decade before you actually got that full-scale war. | ||
But additionally, people need a lot of – your average person probably couldn't tell you what Bleeding Kansas was. | ||
You had seven years of territorial war. | ||
There's a movie clip I just saw. | ||
And it's a man comes on a train with a young black woman. | ||
It's the 1800s. | ||
And the conductor, or an attendant, walks over and says, ticket please, and that can't sit here. | ||
And the man says something like, I think you owe this young lady an apology. | ||
And then the attendant makes disparaging comments about the young black woman. | ||
The man stands up, looks at him, and another passenger tugs on the guy and says, that's John Brown. | ||
And then the attendant says, I'm terribly sorry. | ||
And the story they're telling, John Brown was a man who went around murdering anybody. | ||
I mean, anybody's a bold statement, but this is a guy who brought his kids to Kansas, walked up to people and blasted them in the face with a pistol. | ||
This is what we were seeing for years. | ||
And then you had, obviously, the raid on Harper's Ferry, where he ultimately got stopped. | ||
But people don't understand. | ||
I was reading an article a moment ago about... | ||
Seven states voted to secede, but in the United States, there's pro and anti-Trump in every state. | ||
As if they don't realize that Virginia was split 60-30. | ||
Many of these states were. | ||
So I'm wondering, just in this context and with your having read about all these other conflicts throughout history, is it – you mentioned that it's largely like Rome, but do we – This is the most relevant information for the average person. | ||
What can I expect? | ||
What should I be doing? | ||
Am I going to be able to buy groceries? | ||
Will I watch movies? | ||
What's the immediate ramifications of this conflict? | ||
I'm going to lessen most of your worries by saying that if there is a war, the chances that you die are fairly low. | ||
Oh, thank God. | ||
Actually, me personally? | ||
I don't know. | ||
No, Tim, you'll be fine. | ||
Unless the left completely wins, you'll be fine. | ||
I agree with that, yeah. | ||
There's a lot of people on the right, even of not particularly a large merit, who are at risk if the left wins. | ||
Like a farmer, you know what I mean? | ||
Myself included. | ||
Yeah. | ||
The thing with, Life has to continue. | ||
You will still have to get groceries supplied, you'll still have to Netflix will probably still be up. | ||
Life will continue. | ||
And if you go to war zones, like I have a buddy who's in Armenia now, and he said it's a lovely country. | ||
He loves being in Armenia. | ||
But this place was at war very recently. | ||
but Armenians keep going. | ||
And unless you're a Zoomer male, your chances of dying in this war are relatively low unless you're in... | ||
So keep in mind that World War II, bloodiest war in history, killed 60 million people. | ||
The invention of malaria medicine and clean water has saved over a billion lives. | ||
So in the grand scheme of things, war doesn't kill that many people compared to disease and other things like malnutrition. | ||
Yeah, but to be fair, just a point. | ||
War is a lot of death in a short period, whereas malaria is a lot of deaths over a long period. | ||
I'm trying to give your audience will to live. | ||
And I'm fighting you. | ||
You are correct. | ||
This is the funny thing, right? | ||
One of the talking points on Civil War, when people say it can't happen, they're like, I go outside and nobody's fighting. | ||
And I always say, like, people in Atlanta and the Civil War did not walk outside and fight each other. | ||
The front line was in Pennsylvania, was in West Virginia, was in Maryland. | ||
It was Virginia. | ||
If you weren't there, which is a tiny fraction of the country, you were not seeing these direct conflicts. | ||
Yes. | ||
I think that if there's a war now, the right has an almost near-complete certainty of winning. | ||
And everyone always thinks there are sides more likely to win a war when a war starts. | ||
And then the reality of the human condition is messy. | ||
But the only advantage I could see Democrats having before was using the apparatus of government. | ||
But Trump is in power. | ||
The left is very clearly agitating. | ||
And what I'll say about your 20-year question is that there are too many trajectories that can't survive. | ||
Social security. | ||
Most cities in America are basically bankrupt. | ||
A lot of state governments are. | ||
Our currency is nigh worthless. | ||
Inflation is out of control. | ||
I think we'll have a war because we can't continue these trajectories. | ||
And once trajectories, if you look at a chart and it doesn't make sense, there's another trajectory that you're not noticing. | ||
So when you see all the charts and they all plummet towards something unsustainable, that's when historic shifts happen. | ||
And I think the left is going to lose, although I don't know what process that would take. | ||
Because, as I said before, they lack military Most men in the military are right-leaning. | ||
Most young men are right-leaning. | ||
Gun owners are right-leaning. | ||
The right has a centralized territory. | ||
It has the resources. | ||
It has the food. | ||
It has the electricity. | ||
It has the oil. | ||
And the only way I think a war like this could start would be the left is so deluded that they haven't put all those pieces together. | ||
Yeah, I think it's funny when they kept making the argument, I suppose, in the last four years in the Biden administration. | ||
When these articles pop up and they periodically do about civil war, they say, what are these fat rednecks? | ||
And they show a guy in a wheelchair with his belly sticking out. | ||
It's going to go up against the Marines. | ||
And it's just like the military is more right-leaning. | ||
I mean, it depends on the severity of how things go in this country. | ||
But yeah, right now Trump is in power. | ||
It would take only a handful, a small handful of military to cut off supply routes into every major city and bring them to heel should there be a conflict between these factions. | ||
If LA wants to riot and these truly grow out of control and then you have, let's say, 97% of the population of LA is in revolt against the US, against the federal authority, and the state and local governments start defying federal authorities. | ||
They just blockade the city. | ||
They just, no more highways, nothing you can do about it, and that's it. | ||
But I do think the interesting thing about whether the right or left wins, they have this ideological bent on the left that doesn't adhere to any kind of logical structure, right? | ||
Wokeness. | ||
It's just to each other. | ||
And you mentioned that they've made a series of mistakes, like kicking out white men. | ||
The interesting thing about the conflict we're in right now is I don't even know what we or the right or whatever is up against when they don't have a set of ideologies other than they're a mass of unruly, riotous people. | ||
So it doesn't necessarily seem like you get to civil war. | ||
It seems like Trump goes in and just rigidly forces control in these liberal areas. | ||
I've been on a huge reading binge on the psychology of the French Revolution because I stumbled into a really smart 19th century. | ||
The French Revolution had a lot of really smart stuff written about it because there was over a century when Europeans were trying to figure out what happened. | ||
And the current ideology of the left is the same as the French Revolution, where if you looked at the political positions of French revolutionaries, Unlike Marxism, which is this set-up worldview with their incorrect religion and its complex theological structure, the French Revolution, it's just sort of incoherent ideas of let's get rid of the establishment. | ||
And there's this Overton window of people who want to get rid of religion and create the cult of reason, where in France they literally banned Christianity. | ||
The ideology of the French Revolution, it was Reddit atheism. | ||
It wasn't communism. | ||
It was these kind of vaguely understood concepts that we should liberate people. | ||
But the problem is that the French Revolution, they were delusional. | ||
They thought that all of Europe would erupt into socialist revolutions, which is what they thought in the Russian Revolution, where it's difficult to not discount how delusional the left is. | ||
can be when revolution's on the line. | ||
They always think that the entire world is on the verge of global revolution. | ||
And from the interviews I was looking at from the Los Angeles protests, this seems horrible. | ||
highly Marxist. | ||
And so the thing of the French Revolution is that It was completely incoherent. | ||
The French Revolution could never form an independent government. | ||
It was always spiraling into civil war and internal issues, where France won because they had the best military in Europe, and then the military unseated the civilian government. | ||
And in America, we don't have the same dynamic where those kinds of people could seize power. | ||
And we also have our own competent military with its own trajectory like France did. | ||
Yeah, I think France was actually several revolutions, and in between that was an emperor. | ||
I believe after the first one, Napoleon was like, I can just take whatever I want. | ||
You know, these people are incoherent. | ||
That's what I see. | ||
There's a video of a guy yelling at National Guardsmen that's gone viral, and he's saying, you think you're so big with that assault rifle? | ||
You should be on this side. | ||
You know, you're on the wrong side of history. | ||
It's like you're saying, these people seem to think. | ||
You know, I'll put it this way. | ||
In order to be in a cult, you have to really think you're the center of the universe. | ||
And so these people are in this group being told they are the right side of history. | ||
They are the majority. | ||
Everyone agrees with them. | ||
And they really believe it. | ||
And I think they'll be in for a rude awakening because the average person just wants to watch UFC football and eat chicken wings. | ||
Yeah, you're completely right. | ||
And that's true on an unironic level. | ||
If you study the philosophers they pull thought from, like Hegel or Marx, they literally think progress is a god. | ||
The force of history is a god. | ||
And then the force of history demands greater equality. | ||
If you study leftist thinking, they actually say that. | ||
And so they do literally think that progress is a god, where if they follow the will of the god of progress, they'll get rewarded. | ||
But the problem with that is, I reject, they think by adding more assumptions, they're smarter, but they're actually stupider. | ||
There's a viral video going around of Sam Tripoli. | ||
He was on Rogan's podcast two years ago. | ||
And he gets asked, you have a conspiracy. | ||
Joe's had to wait. | ||
What is it? | ||
And Sam says, all the gay pride stuff's going to go away. | ||
And we are going to see immigration riots right around the time of the election, 2024 election, because this is the Bolshevik war. | ||
Do you think? | ||
Is it fair to say that we have parallels with the Bolshevik Revolution and Bolshevik War? | ||
Of course. | ||
I mean, back in the 18th century with the French Revolution, there were thinkers in the French left who wanted to create a migration from Africa to conquer Europe. | ||
Where going back to the 1700s, leftists thinkers have wanted to create This was a pre-established part of leftist thought. | ||
And I mean, it's the same religion where leftism is a single religion with core beliefs that will replicate the same behavior. | ||
So it's completely reasonable to look to previous leftist revolutions. | ||
It kind of sounds like that's what they're doing with mass migration. | ||
The left openly says all the things it believes. | ||
If you read the thinkers who took over the institutions like Gramsci or Foucault or Marcuse or these people, they openly say we are using these ideas to attain communism for the revolution to destroy Western civilization. | ||
We're just idiots for falling for it. | ||
This is all a pre-established plan they have now. | ||
But if it makes you folks feel better, the communists have lost. | ||
Their entire historic trajectory has been a failure. | ||
They might win a few more victories, but that will not stop. | ||
So they are on the right side of history. | ||
You will end up on the wrong side of history. | ||
So I guess what is the downside of, say, Trump goes into California. | ||
Let's say this escalates. | ||
The National Guard is there. | ||
Newsom is defying Trump. | ||
You've got this Democrat rep who says she's an illegal immigrant who obtained her citizenship, though, however, but that would make it fraudulent. | ||
Let's say Trump says citizenship revoked. | ||
We're arresting, you know, he arrests 10 million illegal immigrants. | ||
Not all, that's 20 million, but let's say he arrests 10 million, deports them all. | ||
Let's say he wins, solidifies government. | ||
Republicans then have, there's a shift in the electorate. | ||
Republicans now have a 20-seat majority. | ||
The Republicans are winning 70% Electoral College vote for the next 10 years. | ||
What's bad about that? | ||
I mean, it's great for us. | ||
It's bad for them. | ||
And that's the calculus. | ||
The reason they're starting a war is they know that they're going to lose on the current trajectory, where their only strategy left is shameless race baiting. | ||
So they're trying to double down on shameless race baiting because, And so they know they're in a desperate place. | ||
They know that companies are getting rid of them. | ||
They know the public doesn't believe in their concept of reality anymore. | ||
And so they're desperate. | ||
And every major industrial war was fought out of desperation. | ||
World War I was every country in Europe thinking the Industrial Revolution would mean they'd get crushed. | ||
World War II was Nazi Germany trying to conquer before Russia grew strong again. | ||
Civil war was the South knew that the North's industrialization would destroy them. | ||
So most wars in the industrial world stem from desperation, where I believe the left is in a desperate spot where they know they're going to lose. | ||
So they're trying to force the hand as a way to seize control of the institutions so that the right can't win. | ||
And the scary thing is that that strategy, it nearly worked in Europe. | ||
You look at Germany and France where they've done truly horrible things to the fairly moderate right-wing opposition parties. | ||
They've been declaring certain right-wing politicians ineligible to run. | ||
But I guess if you're predicting civil war comes the next few years, there is one thing to consider, and that's Strauss-Howe generational theory, which predicts that I think within one year – 80 years ago, we had the World Wars. | ||
80 years before that, we had Civil War. | ||
80 years before that, it was the American Revolution. | ||
We are now 80 years on, and the expectation is next year should begin the spark. | ||
Do you think— You think within the next year or two, or maybe 2028, we actually have dividing lines, factions, something they would actually call a civil war? | ||
So last time I tried to have a time frame, it failed. | ||
So I am going to just say that within the next few years, I think we're going to have a war. | ||
And I think that within the next year is completely plausible. | ||
I stand by my original take. | ||
Yeah, it's fascinating because I was talking about how during the Summer of Love riots, You had a guy in Manhattan in the Upper West Side filming himself walking around and everything was fine and normal. | ||
And he was like, oh, everyone's lying. | ||
Everything's fine. | ||
And you had made mention to this earlier that the front lines are usually small and isolated. | ||
There's not that many people who are fighting relative to the greater population. | ||
This is right now, I think, the excuse they're pushing, which is strange. | ||
Brian Stelter on CNN, he's saying, the videos you're seeing are from hours ago or yesterday. | ||
And it's just. | ||
Right. | ||
I mean, this is happening. | ||
And I think it'll be a rude awakening for a lot of these people when they are told, oh, don't worry, the conflict is miles away. | ||
It's just a few hundred people fighting by the Capitol. | ||
And then a military base is taken over. | ||
A bunch of guys come out with guns. | ||
And then someone appears on the TV and says no one will be allowed to go outside anymore. | ||
And they're like, wait, how's that happening? | ||
I thought it was a small thing in the middle of nowhere. | ||
Yeah, that's how these things are. | ||
I mean, something I want to say again is in the left's moral code, it's completely permissible for them to lie. | ||
The left doesn't have a moral thing against lying because if it helps push progress, it's acceptable. | ||
So of course they're going to opt to skate and lie about it. | ||
But, I mean, in historic empires, there's this constant story of that the emperor... | ||
The emperor doesn't even realize that there's a war going on until the barbarians are scaling the walls. | ||
And that's happened at least several times in history, especially so in Asia, where the elites have so isolated themselves from reality and they've... | ||
dealt with this by building a higher wall between them and reality. | ||
But that's not going to work where it's crazy that our elite believe that this is the end of history, that agnostic social democracy is the endpoint of the human condition, where They should have just read John Rawls. | ||
And they should have just realized that agnostic social democracy is the highest system. | ||
But that's not how this works. | ||
Because in that worldview, they get to hold power forever and they never get to be held accountable. | ||
Yeah. | ||
Well, Rudyard, it's been a blast. | ||
Thanks for joining me and discussing all this stuff. | ||
Where can people find you? | ||
It's a pleasure, as always. | ||
You guys can check me out at What If Altist or my second channel, History 102. | ||
Thank you so much for having me. | ||
Thanks for joining. | ||
We'll see you next time. | ||
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Peace. | |
That is Rudyard Lynch. | ||
Where am I at over here? | ||
He's a smart guy. | ||
He had this prediction about a thousand deaths by April. | ||
He was wrong. | ||
And that's why I was saying my timeline was wrong before. | ||
So I'm going to be careful here. | ||
But I think what he's done right, what he's got right, is that looking at all of these historic conflicts, you see the parallels. | ||
I think the reality is. | ||
Predicting civil war is stupid when you're saying something like, in America, this is how civil war was. | ||
In the Bolshevik Revolution, this is how civil war is. | ||
In the French Revolution, in the Syrian Civil War, in the Spanish Civil War, blah, blah, blah. | ||
The reality is that humans have tendencies. | ||
And the reason why we see parallels all the time is because humans are actually somewhat predictable. | ||
People want food. | ||
If there's no food, they revolt. | ||
Kind of obvious. | ||
Leaders become lazy when Saudi grows fat. | ||
And so you have these stories of emperors. | ||
I believe it was China where the guy I've got the emperor's name. | ||
He didn't even know his he was under siege and at war until they had stormed the capital. | ||
We will see, my friends. | ||
I do agree. | ||
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Of course, I'm your host, Tim Pool, for this noon hour. | ||
It is now 1. We'll be sending you over to our friend, Russell Brand. | ||
We're back tonight at 8 p.m. | ||
TimCast IRL. | ||
Don't miss it. | ||
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And I mean everyone. |