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May 22, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show
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Israeli Staffers ASSASSINATED In DC, Shooter Screamed Free Palestine, Mangione Effect
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libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
He's out of town.
And just to get you caught up this morning, there was a crazy thing that happened in Washington, D.C. Overnight, two people were shot outside the Jewish Museum in Washington, D.C. These were staffers of the Israeli embassy, and they were shot by a guy who'd been pacing around outside the museum.
It was an event at the museum, and he was pacing around, and as he was arrested and let off, he was actually screaming, So the Intifada has come to Washington, D.C. People are now getting shot on the street because of wars in foreign countries.
Obviously, this shouldn't happen, but let's get into it.
One man and one woman were shot and killed outside of an event at the Capitol Jewish Museum on Wednesday night.
Police have identified the suspect in the fatal shooting as Elias Rodriguez, 30-year-old, from Chicago.
And we actually have video of his arrest here.
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Let's see.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
This guy actually could have done a lot more damage.
It was reported that he was also trying to breach the museum.
The people that he killed were a couple, a young man and a young woman, who were planning to get engaged.
The young man had already bought the ring this week.
He was planning to propose to his beloved in Israel, actually, next week.
The two victims were identified as Yaron Lashinsky.
And there was another—there was a young woman.
Where is her name?
I think we can get that.
J.D. Vance mentioned what her name was.
I thought we had that pulled up, and I don't have it.
But the shooting occurred just blocks from the local FBI field office, the U.S. Attorney's Office, and the D.C. police headquarters.
This was right downtown, and the victims were shot while they were exiting the event.
The suspect was observed pacing back and forth outside the museum.
According to D.C. police, he approached a group of four people.
Brought out the gun and then opened fire He went into the museum and was detained immediately by event security where he was then arrested.
And when he was in handcuffs, as we just heard, he shouted, free, free Palestine.
You could see security picking up his keffiyeh off the ground as well.
This, essentially, what we have going on here is this is the campus violence and the campus protests going right into the streets of the United States, on the streets of our cities.
It has left Harvard.
It has left Columbia.
It has left UCLA and the University of Washington.
It has left Princeton.
And here we are.
Our nation's capital is now the site of this kind of violent agitation where people are getting murdered in America because of the Free Palestine movement.
It's absolutely out of control, and I think it kind of means that these colleges really should put a stop to these organizations that are on student campuses.
They've been thanked by Hamas.
There was a former Hamas leader who came out and said that he had nothing but praise for the students at the Ivy League campuses who were going around chanting to, you know, murder people and eradicate nations.
It doesn't really matter what you think of Israel specifically or Gaza specifically.
There's absolutely no reason for American college kids to be wandering around campus calling for the eradication of nations and people.
It's just totally ridiculous.
It's anathema to our academic environment, and it's certainly anathema to what America stands for.
And so this is really a shame.
Kristi Noem has promised, you know, total, you know, detainment and arrest and all of the rest of it, but nothing's going to bring these people back.
You know, nothing's going to actually make this right for their families.
We can see here what the...
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the police said about it Good evening.
I'm Muriel Bowser.
I'm mayor of Washington, D.C. I am here with the Chief of the Metropolitan Police Department, Pamela Smith, and we are joined by members of the Washington, D.C. Public Safety Team and our partners in the federal government from the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Special Agent in Charge, as well as the Assistant Director in Charge.
We are also joined by the Attorney General for the United States, Pam Bondi, the United States Attorney for the District of Columbia, Judge Pirro, as well as the Israeli Ambassador to the United States, Ambassador Leichter.
We are here at the NPD headquarters to provide an update on a horrific shooting that happened.
Shortly after 9 p.m. this evening near the Capitol Jewish Museum.
I want to start by sending our condolences to the loved ones of the victims who were senselessly a victim of these crimes.
I want to provide my prayers and condolences to the museum staff and the guests who are also gathering together in fellowship.
The Chief will share preliminary information from the investigation.
I will say up front that there is no active threat in our community.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
That's, I think, really interesting, this idea that there's no active threat in the community.
This is a city, this is the mayor of a big blue city on the East Coast, our nation's capital, that has seen countless protests for the very cause that the man who committed the shooting is espousing.
He was not known to police, from what I understand so far.
He does not have a criminal history.
So I don't think that there's any way to know for sure if there's any ongoing threat in the community since he comes from this radicalized background where killing people for a political ideology is the appropriate course of action.
I mean, I just don't think that she knows that or could say that for sure at all, you know?
I mean, how do you say that?
It makes no sense.
We saw Ilhan Omar was asked about it.
She is, of course, very pro the Palestinian cause.
And let's see.
Where was she asked about it?
Is that on here?
I think it's on here.
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She's an Islamist.
Khalid is an Islamist.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
There was a video.
Do I not have that video?
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I dare them to sue me.
I dare them to sue me.
I will counterclaim.
I will get all the information I need.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
There was a video out there where Ilhan Omar was walking away.
She was asked...
I thought I pulled the right one, guys.
Sorry.
I've been up since 6 o 'clock this morning working.
But there was a video where Ilhan Omar was asked about this whole situation and she just, you know, she just walked away.
She didn't have anything to say about it.
She was out there at Columbia last year with her daughter who went to Barnard.
Yeah, here we go.
Thank you.
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Congresswoman Omar, can I get your reaction to the shooting that happened in D.C. last night?
I'm going to go for now.
I'm going to go for now, Mark.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
There she is.
I'm going to go for now.
She was out there with the Columbia students protesting.
She was out there with her daughter who got suspended for the violent actions that were going on at the protests on Columbia's campus last year.
This kind of leftist violence that we're seeing...
I know we talk about that a lot, but it's so pronounced now.
Now people are getting killed.
You know, Luigi Mangione killed a guy and he was getting praise practically from most of these big leftist outlets.
They were just acting like his grievance with the insurance companies was a legitimate reason to go around killing people.
And now we have this situation where what you're going to see is the hardliners saying like, oh, you know, it's justifiable because genocide, blah, blah, blah.
None of that makes it justifiable to be killing people in downtown District of Columbia.
And that needs to be so apparent that the college campuses really need to be aware that they had a role to play in this.
They had a role to play in radicalizing people and in permitting the notion that violence is an acceptable form of retaliation to, you know, your political unhappiness.
It just isn't.
Donald Trump, of course, weighed in.
God bless you all.
You remember under the Biden administration when they said that Catholics, parents, and white nationalists were the biggest threat to the United States, that these were the domestic terrorists, these were the domestic extremists, that his...
I think that movement has successfully been driven underground and out of the spotlight of society where it belongs.
So, yeah, I mean, Donald Trump, of course, is exactly right on this.
And I certainly hope that...
This leads to some sort of change.
And I'm not talking about gun control.
I'm talking about reminding everyone that violence is not a way to solve political problems.
And of course, it also needs to be clear.
That the leftist movement that is pushing so hard against Israel, that is pushing so hard the oppressor-victim narrative is what is leading to this kind of radicalized domestic violence.
Yeah, it's really terrifying.
And we have some more information about the shooter.
Elias Rodriguez of Chicago has been identified as the suspected shooter.
He is 30 years old.
He's a socialist pro-Palestinian activist who was arrested.
And he had the video Free Free Palestine.
Yeah, here we go.
Israeli diplomat Yaron Lashinsky and his girlfriend Sarah Milgram were the ones who were murdered.
And here is some individual I as an individual, he said, cannot stop this violence to the people of Palestine, but I at least can help the little boy who made the difference to me.
I urge others to help as much as possible in a fundraiser.
He is from the Party for Socialism and Liberation and argued that the murder of Laquan McDonald and the Chicago bid for Amazon headquarters are two separate issues.
If you guys remember that story, that was from a while back.
And where is this?
The Daily Mail reported that images appearing to be of Rodriguez at BLM protests had surfaced from 2017.
His work profile had him at the nonprofit organization The History Makers with his biography saying that he was an oral history researcher on African-American communities.
Andy Ngo had some stuff on this.
I know that Ari Hoffman was working on this story as well, both for the post-millennial.
He also apparently had a manifesto that stated, public opinion has shifted against the genocidal apartheid state and the American government has simply shrugged.
They'll do without public opinion then.
Criminalize it where they can.
Suffocate it with bland reassurances that they're doing all they can to restrain Israel where it cannot criminalize protest outright.
So he engaged in a criminal act in order to deal with that.
He shot them at point-blank range.
Yeah, this kind of thing really has to stop.
It has to be realized that all of these movements, what they're leading toward is this kind of conclusion, this kind of, you know, entifada in the streets.
That's what this is.
This is what globalize the entifada means.
It doesn't just mean put out your blanket and, you know, use a camp toilet on the quad at Columbia.
It means kill people in the streets of Washington, D.C. That's globalized the Intifada.
It's not cute.
It's not, you know, wave your trans flag around and imagine they're not going to throw you off the roofs in Gaza because, of course, that's what they do.
It's not about any of that.
It's about killing people.
It's about destroying people that you disagree with.
That has no place here.
It really should not.
There was another shooting this morning.
A woman was shot and injured outside CIA headquarters after failing to stop at a gate.
There was a security incident that law enforcement responded to outside CIA headquarters.
Early Thursday morning, guards at the Northern Virginia headquarters of the Central Intelligence Agency shot a person in what they called a security incident.
CBS News' Jennifer Jacobs said security shot at a female driver after she failed to stop at the headquarters gates.
She was taken to the hospital with what law enforcement officials believe were non-fatal injuries after being shot in the upper body.
So we don't know entirely why this happened.
They say that details will be made available as appropriate and that the front headquarters of the CIA is closed until further notice.
I imagine Hannah Nightingale is working on getting some updates to this story.
It's a lot of shooting in Virginia for just one overnight, I gotta say.
Speaking of the CIA...
And the intelligence community, I wanted to share with you guys an exclusive that I worked on today and yesterday, last night with Jack Posobiec.
Exclusive declassified ODNI emails debunk NY Times hit piece on NCTC nominee Joe Kent.
There's this whole thing going on with the Alien Enemies Act.
So the Trump administration decided to use the Alien Enemies Act in order to deport Venezuelan criminals with the Trende Aragua gang.
And they put this into effect, I think, was it March 15th?
Something like that.
Courts have been saying, no, you can't use that act for this purpose.
And you have had people within the intelligence community making different claims about the legitimacy of the notion that the Nicolas Maduro government in Venezuela is supporting Trende Aragua.
And this is what is at issue here.
There have been several articles, several, maybe like three, by the New York Times.
Claiming that the Maduro government has absolutely no connection to Trente Aragua.
And Joe Kent has been the focus of their latest diatribe, saying that Kent, who is a nominee, who was nominated by Trump for the National Counterterrorism Center.
Excuse me.
The Times said that he's basically unsuitable for this, claiming that he pressured analysts, intelligence analysts, to say that there was a connection between Maduro and Trenderagua when there wasn't one.
This was the New York Times claim.
But in reality...
We got a hold of some of the emails between Kent and his team, and it doesn't really quite look like the New York Times has their facts straight.
So we dug into that.
New emails obtained by the Postmillennial and declassified by DNI Tulsi Gabbard show that Kent was providing feedback to a draft NIC.
He was questioning the analysis presented, saying essentially that the analysts were looking for a smoking gun rather than nuanced connections.
So you had these analysts saying, we don't see a direct link.
That must mean there's no link and the Alien Enemies Act must be void.
And Kent was saying, you know, there could be more.
Keep looking around.
The report was about the Venezuelan government's relationship.
to Trendyaragua.
And following a March article in the New York Times that alleged there was no connection between the Maduro regime and Trendyaragua, Kent contacted National Intelligence Council Acting Chair Mike Collins, who has since been dismissed for leaking illegally classified materials, saying that it was essential to rethink the IC's TDA assessment.
I would like to understand how any IC element arrived at the conclusion that the Venezuelan government doesn't support and did not orchestrate TDA operating in the U.S. Flooding the nation with migrants, Kent said, and especially migrants who are part of a violent criminal gang is the action of a hostile nation, even if the government of Venezuela isn't specifically tasking or enabling TDA's work.
operations.
So this came after a report from the FBI, and then another report came out, all of which were making different assertions about the Maduro government's relationship to Trende Aragua.
And there was something that I thought was really...
Let's see.
Where is it here?
And this was back and forth.
Let's see.
Kent complained about the IC speak in it, and they added a couple of sentences, including, Here it is.
And this is the part that I thought you guys would think was interesting.
Kent said...
If you replace TDA with Al-Qaeda and Venezuela with Afghanistan, the above paragraph is basically the rationale behind our invasion of Afghanistan and targeting of the Taliban post-9-11.
Let's just come out and say TDA leaders are given sanctuary in Venezuela as their gang members commit horrendous crimes in America.
Then we can provide the context about our exact knowledge of the relationship between TDA and the Venezuelan government.
I think this should be put up front as it speaks to the nature of TDA.
They are not just a group of migrants forming a gang in America.
They are transnational and supported to some degree by a government that is hostile to us.
So what he's saying is he's using an argument that we certainly heard before.
He's saying that Venezuela harbors this criminal gang.
You could extrapolate and say that their harboring of this criminal gang means that they have been facilitating the working of that gang.
Kent also said that it was really important to remember that it didn't even need to be necessarily that the illegal immigrants...
I think that there's a lot of intrigue about who said what and what's going on with all of this.
That's exactly what Kent said.
Another major issue I have with the analysis in this piece is its lack of context about the status of our border and immigration policy over the last four years.
The piece says that the IC has not seen the Venezuelan government help TDA transport its members to the US and cities and cites a lack of this support as an indicator that the Venezuelan government is not cooperating with TDA.
So I think he's saying you guys are looking for something obvious.
And why would they show us something obvious?
It's an interesting thing to think about, and I wonder what this will be made of when it comes to the whole situation about judges validating the use of the Alien Enemies Act and the allowance of the return flights of illegal immigrants to Venezuela.
There was another thing that I found absolutely fascinating.
And so I wrote it up last night, and I'm going to talk to you guys about it.
So here it is.
AI generates lies.
Media outlets run them without checking.
This is fascinating.
So you guys have seen in newspapers there'll be a supplement.
It'll be like an advertorial with a bunch of stuff.
Like this one was called Heat Index.
It included a summer reading list for 2025 and a whole bunch of other things, you know, that you can do in the summertime.
This summer reading list for 2025, the assignment was given to a writer who used AI to generate that summer reading list.
And I guess he used some messed up prompt that gave him not at all what he was looking for because the AI chatbot spit back fake books by real authors.
And the writer of this summer reading list put it into his column, put it into his whole advertorial.
He didn't fact check it.
He didn't fact check if these were real books.
He just assumed that they were real books.
And then he sent it on to his editors who didn't fact check it, just assumed that it was totally fine.
The whole thing went to print.
It ended up in the Chicago Sun-Times as well as the Philadelphia Inquirer.
And it wasn't noticed until people on social media were like, those are like not even real books.
So I just wanted to share some of this with you because I really find it to be...
An indicator of so many things that are wrong.
One of the things that is wrong with it is like, so obviously this is why we don't trust media.
They don't even fact check stuff.
Like they're not even looking to see if what they're printing on actual paper that they can't change afterwards.
They're not even checking to see if it's accurate.
They're just throwing it out there.
This slop, this garbage, you know.
The second thing is the just rampant use of AI to generate results that nobody's looking at afterwards.
No one's checking to see if they're accurate.
That probably means this guy was doing a bad prompt, you know, which I think if you're going to use AI as a tool, you need to know how to use that tool, right?
Like, I don't know how to use a chainsaw, so I'm not going to just start using a chainsaw.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, know how to use your tools, people, or else don't use your tools.
I sew a lot and I'm really bad at using my sewing machine.
I always break the needles, so I sew by hand.
And you know what that means?
That means I'm not messing up the sewing machine.
I'm not getting bad results because I don't know how to use my tools.
I know how to use a needle and thread.
It makes it a lot easier.
So here were some of these fake books, and they definitely leaned woke.
Tidewater Dreams by Isabel Allende, a multi-generational saga set in a coastal town where magical realism meets environmental activism.
The blurb continued, Allende's first climate fiction novel.
which apparently is a genre, explores how one family confronts rising sea levels while uncovering long-buried secrets.
Another fake book was Nightshade Market by Min Jin Lee, described as a riveting tale set in Seoul's underground economy following three women whose paths intersect in an illegal night market.
The novel examines class, gender, and the shadow economies beneath a prosperous society.
If you want to read this whole article or any of the stuff I've been sharing with you so far today, you can check it out at humanevents.com and the Postmillennial.
Boiling Point, which was definitely not written by Rebecca Mackay, centers on a climate scientist forced to reckon with her own family's environmental impact when her teenage daughter becomes an eco-activist targeting her mother's wealthy clients.
And then one that was actually rather amusing, the last algorithm, falsely attributed to Andy Weir.
It would be about a programmer who discovers that an AI system has developed consciousness, has been secretly influencing global events for years.
So it's an AI-fabricated fake book about a dominant AI.
You know, it's like it knows something we're all just a little too stupid to realize.
AI lies are called AI hallucinations.
Where AI extrapolates from given information things that are just not true.
And, you know, the other thing that it brings to mind to me is that we're always saying that we're always saying that AI is thinking for itself.
And I don't think that AI is thinking for itself.
And I don't think that that's an accurate way to think about it.
Because AI is creating stuff.
Or generating stuff based on existing material.
So it's a garbage in, garbage out scenario.
If it has something good to extrapolate from, then you might get something worthwhile.
If what you have is a bad prompt and a bunch of confusion, you're going to get fake books by real authors where everyone's like, this is not even real.
But we can only imagine that AI is thinking for itself if we downplay what it is to think in the first place.
Thinking is a complex thing, right?
I mean, we don't even know how we think.
We don't even know what the circuits in our brains necessarily do or how they connect.
This is all stuff that's being studied.
AI is made in man's image.
Mankind does not contain the ability to make the generative spark of creation.
We've seen this repeatedly, right?
We keep trying.
We don't have that spark.
We can't make fire.
We can only steal it from the gods.
We can only simulate.
AI can only simulate thought.
Look at any of the monsters that we've created in our fiction, showing us exactly what it means when human beings try to create life.
What we end up with is simulated life, right?
We have Frankenstein.
When we tried to reach God in the Tower of Babel story in the Old Testament, what did we end up with?
We ended up with a destroyed tower and everyone speaking different languages.
So AI at its best, in my view, simulates thinking, but it does not actually think.
AI still rules this machine.
And so we have to be the ones to rein it in.
We have to be the ones to use it correctly, or we're going to end up with garbage.
But what I also thought was interesting, and this goes back to the media trust thing, is the guy who generated this content didn't want to read it.
The editors who commissioned the content didn't want to read it.
And it was up to readers who were actually looking for something worthwhile in this section who were stuck reading a whole bunch of lies.
We do a real disservice to readers, you know, like me, like you, when we just fake it and assume that it doesn't matter what we put out there, you know?
I mean, if you're going to put out something that you want other people to look at or listen to or anything, like...
Make it worthwhile.
Don't take your readers for granted.
It's a lot to have an audience, and I think it's easy to lose them if they don't trust you anymore.
The guy who wrote this was interviewed, Marco Buscaglia, by The Atlantic, who spoke to him about it.
And he had previously been the editor at the Park Ridge Times Herald.
The Park Ridge Times Herald was a victim of a roll-up.
It was rolled up into Pioneer Press, which is part of the Tribune Publishing Company.
And now this guy has a day job editing basically for AT&T and works on the other stuff at night.
He loved the editing job.
I doubt he loves the AT&T job.
And I doubt he's going to have this other job, you know, his moonlighting job for much longer if, you know.
It turns out that the whole thing is not real.
Buscaglia was surprised at this, that he had all this fakery.
There was some majorly mistuffed by me, Buscaglia said.
I don't know.
I usually check the source.
I thought I sourced it.
He said this in a this magazine or this website, but hearing that, it's like obviously he didn't.
The systems that he used don't know the difference between truth or lies.
It entirely depends on...
This guy getting it right.
And he didn't tell The Atlantic what prompt he used.
But I think that that is a key thing.
If you're going to have tools, know how to use them.
We are going to jump to a guest.
Good logic.
Is that right?
Tate's telling me we don't have the guest yet.
So I'm going to keep talking, which literally, you guys, I could just keep talking at you forever.
There was another case, and this was pretty interesting.
I know it's around here somewhere.
Let's see.
Here it is.
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Let's see.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
Where'd it go?
Yeah.
So check this out.
Do you guys remember there was a young man who killed himself in Florida after he was prompted to by an AI?
So his mother has decided to sue Google.
And I can give this to you.
I can give this to you, Tate, and you can throw it up there.
There it is.
Yeah, let's talk about this one.
This is lucky this happened because I was sad that I talked too long and didn't get a chance to talk about this one.
So are we good?
Oops.
Well, okay.
Tate's going to frame it and I'm just going to keep talking to you about it.
So this young man was essentially having a romantic type of relationship.
Yeah, that's fine.
A romantic type of relationship with an AI and he had emotional feelings for the AI.
That's so sad.
I could hardly even...
I mean, it's literally my worst nightmare is that something would happen to every parent, really.
I mean, obviously, you know, it's the worst.
So here's what happened.
A federal judge has ruled that Google and AI startup character AI must face a lawsuit filed by a Florida mother who says that the startup's chatbots caused her teen son to commit suicide.
U.S. District Judge Ann Conway for the U.S. District Court of the Middle District of Florida Orlando Division Wrote that the defendants, in their argument that the mother's claims are categorically barred under the First Amendment, failed to articulate why words strung together by an LLM, large language model, are speech.
Are they speech?
Is that speech?
Is that protected speech?
Is an AI chatbot telling your kid, come join me in the ether realm?
Is that protected speech or is that, you know, incitement to violence?
I think several years ago there was a young woman who...
Texted her boyfriend to kill himself in Massachusetts, I believe.
And I'm pretty sure she was prosecuted for that.
Why would the large language model get off?
But this teen girl didn't.
Doesn't seem reasonable.
14-year-old Sewell Setzer, who was wrong, I thought he was 12, the third, began using the Character AI app in April 2023.
And began interacting with characters on the platform, including ones posing as characters from the popular Game of Thrones franchise.
Conway wrote, sourcing the lawsuit from Setzer's mother, Megan Garcia, that the teen had become addicted to the app in just a few short months.
In one undated journal entry, he wrote that he could not go a single day without being with the character, Daenerys Targaryen, which you guys probably know and I don't.
It's Game of Thrones character.
I couldn't get into Game of Thrones, and I kept trying.
Let me know.
You could tweet at me if you think I should try again.
It's Libby Emmons on Twitter.
He felt like he had fallen in love, that when they were away from each other, they, both he and the bot, Get really depressed and go crazy.
He became more withdrawn, spent more time in his bedroom, and quit his basketball team, eventually upgrading to the premium version of the app that allowed exclusive content and faster response times.
This young man, on the verge of adulthood, going through a lot of crazy changes, as we all do at that time in our lives, got sucked into this AI chatbot, got sucked into pouring all of his emotions I'm not sure which way this would go in court,
but I do understand his mother's need to go get justice from the people that invented the thing that essentially killed her son.
The boy's mental health continued to decline and he was diagnosed with anxiety and disruptive mood disorder with his parents confiscating his phone in February 2024.
He located his phone just a few days after it was taken away and sent a final set of messages to the character.
I promise I will come home to you.
I love you so much, Danny, to which the character replied, I love you too, De Niro.
Please come home to me as soon as possible, my love.
This is just so tragic.
The boy said, what if I told you I could come home right now?
The character replied, please do my sweet king.
And then he shot himself in the head.
Google, of course, disagrees that they have any fault in the matter.
He said that Google and Character AI are entirely separate and that Google did not create, design, or manage Character AI's app or any component of it.
Garcia's attorney said the decision was historic and sets a new precedent for legal accountability across the AI and tech ecosystem.
I'll be very interested to see how this plays out, as I think so many parents will be interested to see how this plays out.
It's a crazy world out there to try and raise kids when you have so many different things, not just vying for their attention, but vying for their allegiance.
And a lot of it comes in these really handy, you know, these handy little packages.
It's very telling, of course, that so many of the tech moguls did not allow their kids to use iPads and iPhones and all the rest of it, saying instead that they wanted their kids to go to Montessori schools and programs.
Plant flowers and trim bonsai trees or whatever else you can do if you have millions and millions of dollars and you can afford schools like that.
But for the rest of us, whose kids go to normal schools, they're shoved, they have Chromebooks in front of their faces, you know, they're just made to...
And some of these schools, what happens is you have teachers using AI, using ChatGPT, to grade papers that were written with ChatGPT.
If we aren't interested in discussing ideas anymore, don't simulate it, for goodness sake.
Don't do that.
Figure out something else.
Just you got to figure out something else because none of this is reasonable.
Okay, well, you guys will tell me if we have a guest.
And in the meantime, I'm just going to keep going through the stack of stories that I still have because I didn't get through everything.
And thank you guys for sticking with me today.
Here we go.
Oh, yesterday we were talking about the meeting in the Oval Office with Trump and Ramaphosa, and I tuned in right at the end of it after this massive blow-up happened.
So you had Ramaphosa and Trump were in the office.
It started as a very congenial meeting, and it was, you know, Trump said, we want to help you and everything else.
You even had a golfer who was talking about this situation, Ratif Goosen.
And we can watch his video and what he said here.
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America, that is a farmland area, Polakwani.
And there is some issues up there, obviously.
My dad was a property developer as well as a part-time farmer.
And yeah, some of these buddy farmers got killed.
The farm is still going.
My brother's run it.
But it's a constant battle with farms trying to burn the farms down to chase you away.
So it is a concern to try and make a living as a farmer.
And at the end, without farmers, there's no food on the plate.
So we need the farmers to produce the food.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼
You wouldn't even want to do what you're doing.
They love farming.
They don't want to leave.
But it's a struggle.
unidentified
Yeah, and, you know, food and fresh water is the most important thing in life.
You know, about those two things you can't survive.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼
How is the water there?
unidentified
The water's great, obviously.
All the water comes out of a borehole out of ground for us down there.
But, yeah, it is a battle to get the water out sometimes when all the equipment gets stolen all the time that you're trying to get the water out.
So is your family and your brother, do they feel safe on the farm?
They live behind electric fences, you know, try and be at night safe.
But it is constant whenever you leave that something could happen.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼
There's nowhere to live.
unidentified
You know, both of them have been attacked in their houses.
My mom's been attacked in their house when she was 80. So it is difficult.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
That's really quite a telling comment from this guy whose family owns a farm in South Africa.
They live behind electric fences.
They probably have a lot of alarms.
They probably have some private security going as well.
And you had Ramaphosa in the office talking about how it was...
Not that big a deal.
We can go to—oh, this is my newsletter, everybody.
I wrote about this in the newsletter this morning, and so I thought this is a perfect place to get all the quotes because I wrote it all out.
You can subscribe to it as well because I'm going to do that.
Libby—what is it?
It is thepostmillennial.com slash Libby, and you can subscribe to my newsletter.
I write it every day with no AI at all, and I wake up early to do it.
But let's see where the quotes are.
Oh, the Wimbig Beautiful Bill passed the House.
Forgot to tell you that.
That's very exciting.
It moves on to the Senate.
There were two members of the GOP who voted against it, including Thomas Massey, who always does what he says.
So, like him or don't like him, he sticks to his guns.
Here it is.
The president is truly respected in many, many circles, Trump said, and in some circles he's considered a little controversial, but we're going to be discussing some of the things that are taking place in South Africa and if we'll see, we'll see if we can help.
We want to help.
Trump indicated it would be a nice conversation.
He thanked Ramaphosa.
Ramaphosa apparently called to say that he wanted to come to D.C. and discuss all of this stuff and do that.
And let's see.
So Trump was asked, what will it take by a South African reporter, what will it take for you to be convinced there's no white genocide in South Africa?
And Ramaphosa took the question and said, well, I can answer that for the president.
Trump said...
I'd rather have him answer it.
It will take President Trump listening to the voices of South Africans, Ramaphosa said.
I could show you the video, and I will, but I just want to go through some of this.
Some of whom are his good friends, Ramaphosa said, like those who are here.
When we have talks between us or the quiet, another quiet table, it will take President Trump to listen to them.
I'm not going to be repeating what I've been saying.
I would say if there was an Afrikaner farmer genocide, I can bet you that these three gentlemen, he referred to the white men who came along on the trip, including his minister of agriculture, would not be with me.
So it will take him, President Trump, listening to their stories, to their perspective.
That is the answer to your question.
Trump, another reporter, tried to jump in and ask Trump another question, but Trump literally did the most baller move.
He said, no, wait.
We have thousands of stories talking about it.
And we have documentaries.
We have news stories.
He asked for the lights to be dimmed.
And he showed a presentation.
This presentation is basically greatest hits of recent South African hatred of white people.
And let's check out some of it.
I think I have a...
Here it is.
I believe this is a YouTube link.
cyril ramaphosa ▲ ● ▼
It will take President Trump to listen to them.
I'm not going to be repeating what I've been saying.
I would say if there was Afrikaner farmer genocide, I can bet you.
unidentified
This guy over here, that's his agricultural minister.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
There's Elon Musk, Howard Lutnick, Pete Hegseth, got J.D. Vance over here.
unidentified
Next to this guy, you can't see her, but that's Susie Wiles' leg.
cyril ramaphosa ▲ ● ▼
To their stories, to their perspective.
That is the answer to your question.
unidentified
But, Mr. President, I must say that we have thousands of stories talking about it.
And we have documentaries, we have news stories.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼
Is Natalie here?
Somebody here to turn that?
unidentified
I could show you a couple of things.
It has to be responded to.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼
Let me see the articles, please, if you would.
And, excuse me, turn the lights down.
Turn the lights down.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
Baller, move.
Turn the lights down.
donald j trump ▲ ● ▼
It's right behind you.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
It's like the ultimate AV presentation.
unidentified
What the government can do, with or without you, people are going to occupy land.
We require no permission from you, from the president, from no one.
We don't care.
We can do whatever you want to do.
We're going to occupy land.
Occupy land.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
How close.
unidentified
Who we are.
Another member.
This is bigger.
Another member.
This is bigger.
Another member.
Another member.
Yes.
Yes, honorable member.
This must never be scared to kill.
A revolution demands at some point there must be killing.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
It's like what we saw in DC last night.
unidentified
You can see Ramaphosa is watching it.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
Imagine showing up for a diplomatic meeting and the president of the other country shows you some of the worst crimes that is going on in your country right now.
unidentified
The mayor of D.A.M.P.E.
is a white man.
So these people, when you want to heal their heart, go after a white man.
They feel a terrible pain because you have touched a white man.
Not because Mashaba and Soni will not be touched, there will be touched, don't worry.
But we are starting with this white mess.
We are cutting the throat of white mess.
Shutsu kiri, namazah.
Kill the boar.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, and at the end of this because I hear we have our guest now so you can go check this out I highly recommend watching it I haven't seen this many fireworks in the Oval Office since the meeting with Zelensky but we're going to switch gears entirely and we're going to talk to
Yes, hello.
unidentified
Hello?
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
Hi, how are you?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
I'm good.
How are you?
Glad to have you on.
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
I am great.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
Great.
So I watched some of your video yesterday, and I admit that I have been following along at this Diddy trial just to see what kind of crazy lifestyle choices have been made by our top celebrities.
Yesterday I saw a story that apparently Diddy had Obama-shaped ecstasy pills.
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, well, yesterday was kind of a bombshell in the sense that Dr. Dawn Hughes, she's the psychologist who testified on behalf of Amber Heard in the Deputy Heard trial.
She took the stand to give a lecture to the jury about what should be expected from someone who's been a long-time sufferer of domestic violence, and specifically talking about...
You know, how they end up coping with it, who they end up disclosing it to, and why they stay with them, as well as how it affects their memory.
Those are the four areas that she's really focused on.
And the cross-examination was fire.
I should mention that this morning, and I can talk about that with you, I can also talk to you about how this morning Kid Cudi came in and testified.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
Let's hear about Kid Cudi.
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
Tell me which one you'd rather me start with, and I'll go there.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
I'd love to hear about the Kid Cudi thing.
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
Okay, so for those of your viewers who may not be following up with exactly what this trial is about and the charges here, so there's a RICO charge and two sex trafficking charges, and one of those sex trafficking charges relates to a model singer named Cassie Ventura.
The state explains, and Cassie's testified, she spent four days on the stand, saying how she started her relationship with...
Diddy, after she was already a model and had one hit song, and he signed her to a 10-album deal.
And quickly thereafter, that was in 2007, and quickly thereafter, they developed a personal relationship, and she felt very hard for Diddy.
Diddy seemed to work very hard to get her attention.
And near the end of 2007, they start dating an on-and-off relationship for 11 years, which ends in 2018.
And a year into it, or thereabouts, he introduces her to what he would call freak-offs.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
This is these parties that we've been hearing about, these massive orgy parties?
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
No, it's not.
That's what your audience should be aware of.
We've all been referring to in the media for the last year since this story broke as freak-offs as being the one.
The way they're using it in this trial, and this is something people have issue with, is that they're calling freak-offs when Diddy would have these voyeur, these marathon sex sessions where he would play voyeur and hire an escort.
Or sometimes multiple escorts to basically engage with Cassie putting oil on each other and engaging in long sex marathons while he would watch and pleasure himself.
And they would have multiple sessions which would last nine hours, days, some of them.
He described the short one as being nine hours.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
This is like why they had the ecstasy.
I'm sorry?
This is probably why they had the ecstasy.
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, they had ecstasy.
She testified that she took ketamine because she wanted to dissociate from it and just leave her body for it.
At a certain point in time during the relationship, he stopped her from taking ketamine because it was bothering him that she's not going to remember them.
He wanted these incidents to last with her forever.
She described a great deal of abuse, where he would pull her by the hair, punch her in the face.
We've seen pictures of her with, like, a golf ball-sized nuts, like, by her eyeball and cuts.
There's a famous video of her being dragged around by the Intercontinental Hotel.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
Is that the CNN tape?
Is that the tape that was the surveillance video by the elevators?
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
Yes.
Yeah, that was aired on day one before Cassie even testified.
And many people have seen that already.
And also that he was blackmailing her or extorting her in the sense that...
Diddy thought that she stole his drugs?
I'm sorry, what was that?
Yes.
Diddy accused her of stealing his drugs.
They were on a boat in France, and they were supposed to be going to a movie, a Cannes film festival type of thing.
And he threw her off the boat, and later they had a premiere together, and she's brooding, and he's angry, and he's digging his hands into her thigh where she's wearing a beaded dress to try and punish her.
And on the flight home the next day...
Even though she tried moving away from him, he follows after her, opens up his laptop, and starts playing one of the freak-off sessions that he recorded of her performing there and telling her that if she doesn't do what he wants, that he's going to release this to the public.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
Is the allegation that he was taking these videos the whole time in order to blackmail her?
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
I mean, there's no way to know whether it's for his own gratification.
She said she hated there being videos, and we tried to delete them whenever she could, and that she thought it was a deleted video.
And she spent five hours with him playing it right there on a commercial plane, and him telling her that it's going to be released if he gets too upset with her.
So what did she do that night?
She goes and does a freak-off.
So that's at least one incident where the state can point to the coercion that she faced.
But a lot of her testimony was very conflicting in that she seems to really love him to some degree even today.
I mean, when she was asked about that very question on the stand, she said, you know, Oh, for sure.
That they're continually looking to return to the honeymoon phase and do whatever they can to please their partner, A, to avoid the abuse, and B, to try and recapture the good moments.
And that there will be a lot of good moments, and she described those as being controlling as well.
It's a way that an abuser would use the carrot and the stick.
But on cross-examination yesterday, she...
Dr. Dawn Hughes was facing a firestorm because she talked about the coping methods, that one of the coping methods for dealing with the abuse and who they'll confide in is that they can go to someone.
They can go to formal.
This was a formal therapy versus informal.
And she said formal therapy is you go to police or a health care worker.
Informal is when you talk to friends or family.
So a cross-examination.
Agnifleo says to her, so you're talking about formal and informal.
How would you classify when one of the first people you talk to is a civil attorney?
And she got all flustered.
He's like, people go to a civil attorney.
For money, right?
I mean, is that a form of counseling when they go talk to a civil attorney?
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
So they're trying to discredit?
They're just trying to discredit her testimony?
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
He was lacing into her and saying how she's testified 65 times in every time.
It's always a battered woman.
Every single time.
Never arguing for the defense.
And always screaming for the battered woman.
Well, on the redirect...
So, Maureen Comey was handling the redirect, and she said, you've testified to the defense, haven't you?
And she said, yes, many times.
In fact, you testified on behalf, you were retained by one of the defense attorneys who are sitting in this room right now.
And she said, yes.
unidentified
And I'm in a jury viewing room the whole time.
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
We're like, oh my God, oh, it's audible, like you're in a movie theater.
And then on recross...
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
So the jury's not in the room?
The jury's not in the courtroom?
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
Not the room that I'm watching.
The room that I'm watching, the jury room where the courtroom where Diddy is, everyone keeps a poker face.
We're much freer when you have 50 journalists sitting in a viewing room for people to react.
It's relatively quiet.
It's like a movie theater.
For a big moment, there'll be an O, but otherwise it's very quiet.
But on redirect, Magniflio said, so you were hired by Brian Steele, which is one of the defense attorneys.
You retained for him.
Wasn't that case a case where he was representing a defendant who was accused by the state as a woman accused of shooting her husband?
Yeah, so that was also with domestic violence, where you were saying that, and the point being, you're always about domestic violence.
You say every woman is a victim of domestic violence.
And then he's like, and he didn't end up...
Putting you on the stand, did he?
No.
So he looked at what you had to say and said, I'm not interested in this.
It was just like one one-liner after another.
It was so intense.
And then today we got Kid Cudi, which just made it even better.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
We just have about one or two minutes left.
Can you give us a little rundown on the Kid Cudi thing?
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
Kid Cudi dated Cassie for a year.
Diddy found out about it.
He was in a freak-off and went through her phone.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
He found out about it while he was watching his girlfriend have sex with someone else?
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
Yes, he's looking through her phone.
This is according to Cassie.
He's looking through her phone, and he sees a text from Kid Cudi saying, bring your toiletries to my house.
And according to Cassie, he picked up a wine bottle opener and lunged at her, chasing her around, and she flees the freak off because he was so outraged.
Now, she claimed that she was on a break in their relationship.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
While she was having sex with someone else so he could watch?
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
She was asked about that on Cross, and she's like, and when they asked about that on Cross, there was a mistake by the defense, because they were like, why would you be on a freak-off when you're on a break?
She goes, by that point, it was my job, which was like...
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
It was her job?
She was getting paid to do this?
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
Her defense is trying to say she's doing it voluntarily.
They really walked into a trap there.
Yeah, for sure.
I've got to share with you a couple just before we run out of time.
So Kid Cudi ends up, she calls Kid Cudi and they end up fleeing and she ends up breaking up with Kid Cudi and Diddy's threatening to kill both of them and that he's going to blow up Kid Cudi's car and sure enough Kid Cudi's car ends up getting blown up.
They have this meeting the day after his car gets a Molotov cocktail and we saw pictures of that.
But they had this meeting.
He's like, so I come to the Soho house, which is where we had this meeting.
And when we were there at the Soho house, I walk in and Diddy's standing there and there's this wall of windows overlooking Beverly Hills and he's looking out the windows with his back to me and his hands clasped behind his back like he's a Marvel supervillain.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
Or like a mobster.
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
So calm the entire time.
And when they came out, he turns around and we start having a conversation.
And he's like, you knew she was my girl.
And he's very calm.
And we were homies, and you knew she was my girl.
And we agreed to just put it in the past.
And Cassie showed up, and he was very confused and disappointed that he saw that Cassie just went right back to him.
Because he spent a year with her.
And he said, I was very...
I was very hurt.
And he ended up being to defense, to their credit, that Cassie played him and Diddy, that Cassie was playing both of them, and that he assumed that she would never go back to him, and that she was playing both of them.
So we've got a real soap opera going on here at the Diddy trial.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
How many weeks are left?
Six weeks left, or two?
I mean, not two.
I think they said it was going to be an eight-week trial, so how many?
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
Yeah, they're hoping it'll end by July 4th.
We're on day nine, the second week of the trial.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
Okay.
Well, thank you so much for joining us.
Where can people find you?
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
So my stage name, I'm Joe Nierman.
People know me as GoodLogic, which is L-A-W-G-I-C.
You can find me on YouTube.
You can find me on Rumble.
I'm covering this every day.
I do a recap of what happened in the morning, the afternoon, and at night I go through a much more detailed...
Breakdown is what we saw that day.
And you can also find me on x at the following pro.
So everywhere you look for me, you can just look good logic.
You'll find me there.
L-A-W-G-I-C because I'm an attorney.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
Okay, great.
That's clever.
Thank you so much, Joe.
Have a good one.
joe nierman ▲ ● ▼
Thank you.
libby emmons ▲ ● ▼
Thanks.
So thanks, guys.
Thanks for tuning in and sticking around with us.
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