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Department of Homeland Security is threatening to arrest more Democrats after they stormed an ICE facility.
And oh boy, this one's contentious.
Let me just start off by saying, my friends, we are at a point in time where federally representative, I should say Democrats, representing their districts to the federal government, stormed and attacked a federal facility and assaulted federal law enforcement.
The mayor of Newark was arrested for trespassing.
Liberals and Democrats are claiming this is Trump's Gestapo, masked armed men arresting politicians, their political rivals.
You know, the problem I see largely with Republicans is that they're reactive.
Democrats are both reactive and proactive.
They will arrest their political opponents.
And then when Donald Trump or any other Republican tries to enforce the law, We'll also similarly claim they are being oppressed.
Reminds me of Monty Python.
Help, help, I'm being repressed.
Sure.
Well, this is where we're currently at.
The DHS has released the guidelines for how you actually can go inside the facility.
And guess what?
24 hour notice is required to enter a facility.
But more importantly, the Democrats are arguing that a scheduled visit.
The question that is, why were they not allowed into this ICE facility if that were true?
Even if it was true, this was in the middle of a prisoner transport.
You see how dangerous this could have gotten.
Democrats are playing a dangerous game, as they always have, because they are unscrupulous.
They don't fear prison.
And what I mean by that is, not only do they not fear actually going to prison, they don't fear that they would go to prison for doing any of these things.
Thus, the DHS is saying, we're planning on arresting some of these people.
Now, one of the Democrat reps who was on camera physically attacking law enforcement, it's crazy to say, is arguing, never happened.
Never happened indeed.
Well, the DHS has released the body camera footage showing, in fact, this Democrat rep was physically assaulting federal officers.
Guess what?
That is an eight-year prison sentence.
I don't think we put him in prison for eight years.
I know as much as you have this liberal democracy, Desire to put everybody in solitary for three years plus.
And then you have the response from the right side saying, sure, you go to jail, but not for two to three years in solitary, a couple months for assaulting an officer.
I feel similarly.
These Democrats should get a couple months in jail for assaulting officers.
It's just that simple.
So, my friends, we're going to go through this and break it all down.
We've also got other information on where the Democratic Party thinks they're going.
Oh, boy.
President AOC and David Hogg appeared on Bill Maher's show saying that Democrats need to market, as it were, to young men who just want to party and get laid.
Is that what he thinks needs to happen?
Aye, aye, aye.
They're lost, my friends.
I want to give a shout-out to Stephen Crowder and the Mug Club for shouting us out.
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Let's jump into the news from NBC News.
DHS spokesperson threatens arrest of House Democrats who were at NJ ICE facility.
Tricia McLaughlin accused members of Congress of assaulting and even body-slamming ICE officers.
A congresswoman who was present denied the allegation.
Before I just read what they say, I want to show you actual footage DHS uploaded.
The reason we call this information vaccination, what that means is for a lot of people, they'll read the news before they see the evidence and draw conclusions.
Then they say, I don't need to see the video.
I already know what happened.
The famous example is the very fine people hoax.
Most liberals that are getting red-pilled these days are saying, I genuinely thought Trump said Nazis were fine people.
And then it turns out he didn't say that.
Famously, Daniel Negrano, one of the poker greats, came on Timcast IRL and he said he had thought for like almost 10 years.
You know, it's been eight years or whatever.
Trump said this.
I've seen it.
I know.
Finally, one of his buddies in the poker world put the phone on the table, slid it to him and said, watch.
And he goes, fine, he press played.
And what does Trump say?
And I'm not talking about neo-Nazis or white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.
You see, Daniel thought he already knew and he didn't need to see another video.
Let me play this video for you of what happened.
You can see right here on the right side, the one in red, that is one of the Democrat reps.
unidentified
What happened to me?
What happened to me?
tim pool
And what do you get?
unidentified
There it is.
tim pool
She's literally shoving.
Now, I want to make sure this is very clear for everybody.
Sometimes when you're in a crowd, someone pushes you and you'll fly into somebody else.
It happens.
That's not what's happening here.
You can see the man behind her has his hands lightly on her shoulders.
He's not holding her or pushing her.
And watch what she does.
She just shoved.
That is assault on a federal officer.
unidentified
Look at this.
tim pool
Wow.
It looks like you can see her hand.
And she just strikes.
Look at this.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
She punched that guy right there.
Holy crap.
Watch this.
unidentified
She just punched a cop.
tim pool
Yo, that's crazy.
Democrat punches ICE officer.
Right there.
Let's play it again.
Slow motion.
Here she is in the red.
It's kind of grainy.
Here's the cop.
She punches him.
Right there.
Boom.
Punch to the back.
I think she should get locked up.
I think she should absolutely get locked up.
Now that we've seen the video footage and you saw her literally strike an officer several times, let me read what NBC News says.
The spokesperson for the Department of Homeland Security on Saturday.
Suggested the Trump administration could pursue arrests of the House Democrats involved in an incident.
An incident?
Not an insurrection?
How strange.
At a New Jersey Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention facility on Friday and accused them of assaulting ICE officers.
I think that we should let viewers know there will likely be more coming.
We actually have body camera footage of some of these members of Congress assaulting our ICE enforcement officers, including body slamming a female ICE officer, McLaughlin said.
Now let's play with NBC shows.
unidentified
Tonight, a new showdown over immigration.
The mayor of Newark arrested outside this ICE detention facility in New Jersey for alleged trespassing.
After a protest also attended by three Democratic members of New Jersey's congressional delegation, LaMonica MacGyver, Bonnie Watson Coleman, and Robert Benendez Jr.
We were assaulted by multiple ICE agents.
They buffed us up in front of cameras.
Trump administration says there was no assault and the members of Congress stormed the facility and broke into it.
tim pool
A DHS spokesperson calling it a bizarre political stunt and writing in a bizarre political stunt as a bus of detainees entered the security gate at delaney hall detention center a group of protesters including two members of u.s congress stormed the gate and broke into the detention facility the members robert menendez jr and bonnie watson coleman plus multiple protesters holed up in a guard shack the first security This illegal breaking and entering of a detention facility puts the safety of our law enforcement agents and the detainees at risk.
Members of Congress are not above the law and cannot illegally break into detention facilities.
Had these members requested a tour, we would have facilitated a tour of the facility.
This is an evolving situation.
unidentified
An illegal breaking and entering.
Members of Congress also have to follow the law.
For weeks, Democrats have slammed President Trump over deportations, arguing he's ignoring due process rights for undocumented immigrants.
Some Democratic members of Congress even traveling to El Salvador to meet Kilmar Abrego Garcia, demanding the Trump administration return him to the U.S. after he was deported to a prison there.
The administration says he's a gang member, which he denies.
donald j trump
The second we try to deport them, the radical Democrat party is racing to the defense of some of the most violent savages on the face of the earth.
unidentified
The White House is now considering suspending the right to challenge a person's detention by the government.
stephen miller
The Constitution is clear.
The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus can be suspended in a time of invasion.
So to say that's an option we're actively looking at.
unidentified
And Gabe, today a judge ordered the release of a Tufts University student who's been detained since March.
Yes, Lester, in just breaking, Turkish student Rumeza Ozturk just walked out of a detention facility in Louisiana.
The federal judge ruled her continued detention could potentially chill the speech of millions of non-citizens.
The Trump administration has said student visas are a privilege, not a right.
tim pool
Indeed they are.
And my friends, there you have it.
I wanted to show you the violent actions of that woman before showing you NBC.
This is once again information vaccination.
Now imagine how many of your family members, a liberal aunt or uncle or a grandparent perhaps, only saw this.
They saw the calm and peaceful woman standing there saying, We were assaulted by them!
They attacked us!
unidentified
Okay, here you go.
tim pool
Here it is, right here.
And she's striking this guy.
Closed fist punching a federal officer.
Okay.
This is what I deal with every day and I know you guys do too.
There's video of it.
We watched her do it.
Now she should get arrested and go to jail.
But here's what's going to happen.
I got liberal friends.
I really do.
They message me.
And no matter what I try to send them, they refuse to believe it.
And it's a really fascinating thing that I know, you know, you guys deal with this the exact same way.
That when people...
Truly just believe the corporate press they believe lies.
So here's where it gets fascinating.
Here's a clip from CNN.
Let's play it.
See if we can get this from Rapid Response.
Reps, Rep Bonnie and LaMonica claim nothing happened when they tried to storm the gates of an ICE facility attacking ICE officers.
unidentified
But there's no reason for it.
Nothing happened other than the chaos that they created themselves.
If anything, we were pushed and shoved and found in a very vulnerable situation.
tim pool
I can respect CNN at least showing Rep LaMonica shoving.
What is it?
Rep LaMonica McIver.
That's her shoving.
A federal law enforcement officer.
But it's not going to reach people because they don't look at these things.
Now, they claimed they had a right to be there.
DHS says this.
Here are the guidelines.
They posted this.
Members of Congress cannot break the law in the name of oversight.
All members and staff need to comply with facility rules.
The legislative branch is not superior to the executive.
If they want to issue a check, if they want to go into a facility, they need to do it formally.
Here you go.
Congressional staff must give 24 hours notice.
Identification is mandatory.
No recording devices.
No campaigning.
Security comes first.
Detainee meetings require privacy waivers.
No donations.
Democrats often bring in supplies for photo ops.
ICE says no to donations at detention centers.
Well, my friends, I give you this from Cornell Law.
In general, whoever won.
Forcibly assaults, resists, opposes, impedes, intimidates, or interferes with any person designated in Section 1114 of this title while engaged in or on account of the performance of official duties or forcibly assaults or intimidates any person who formerly served as a person designated in 1114 on account of their duties shall,
where the acts in violation of the section constitute only simple assault, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year or both, and where such acts involve physical contact with the victim of that assault or the intent to commit another felony, be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than eight years or both.
Looks like eight years it is.
Now, look, I'll be honest with you guys.
I think she should get two or three months.
That's normal.
Look, I mean, she did hit a federal police officer.
Maybe you get more than that, maybe six months to a year.
I mean, assaulting an officer is a serious thing, right?
Now, I'm not a fan of any feds, local police, sheriffs, any kind of law enforcement violating people's rights.
However, the reason this law exists is so that police know they can go out and there is a penalty for physical attacks upon them when they have to do a job and stop bad guys.
So if they're in the middle of a criminal transport, And the Democrats are obstructing a criminal transport—that's a felony—trying to break into a federal facility.
Pretty sure that's a felony, too.
And closed fist striking a federal officer?
Oh, boy.
Let's give them three counts of felony assault on an officer or obstruction, whatever you want to get them.
Now, you may be asking, what is this, Section 114?
Don't worry, we'll get technical on you.
Section 114, it's identifying individuals as— Any officer or employee of the United States or any agency in any branch of the U.S. government, including a member of the Uniformed Services, while such an officer of employees engaged in or on account of performance official duties.
That's why there's two provisions.
One is if they're formally, but you attacked them because of a job they did.
So let's say you're an ICE agent, you retire, and then someone comes and kills you.
You still get charged under the statute.
Okay.
Now that I've shown you this woman closed fist striking a federal officer, let's peruse over our good friends at Reddit and see what they have to say about this.
Newark mayor arrested by ICE agents at detention center.
Here's the story from r slash news, a subreddit with millions of followers.
Top comment.
Witnesses said the arrest came after Barack attempted to join a scheduled tour of the facility with three members of New Jersey's congressional delegation.
When federal officials blocked his entry, a heated argument broke out.
According to Viri Martinez, an activist, it continued even after Baraka returned to the public side of the gates.
In the video of the altercation shared with the AP, a federal officiant in a jacket with the logo of Homeland Security Investigations can be heard telling Baraka he could not join a tour because you're not a Congress member.
He then left the secure area, rejoining protesters on the public side of the gate.
Video showed him speaking through the gate to a man in the suit who informed him they're talking about coming back to arrest you.
I'm not on their property.
They can't come out on the street and arrest me.
Minutes later, several ICE agents, some wearing face coverings, surrounded Baraka and others on the public side of the gate as protesters cried out shame.
He was dragged back to the gate in handcuffs.
Oh my God.
He was peacefully there just talking and they, oh, he physically attacked him.
Look at the response.
Quote, you aren't allowed on our property.
Okay, I will stand out here.
No, we are forcing you onto our property with handcuffs now.
Let's play that game again!
Oh, here's them attacking federal law enforcement.
I'm not going to play the video 800,000 times.
You get it.
This guy was party to a riot that physically assaulted federal law enforcement to get into a facility, and it was during criminal transport.
The reason why I say and is because I don't want to actually play a stupid game where I think they were trying to free criminals, but you can understand why federal law enforcement is like, we don't want you coming in right now.
We are in the middle of something serious.
That's why he got arrested.
Oh boy, moderate politics.
Oh moderate, you say over on Reddit.
Democratic members, Congress members storm ICE facility gates, clash with federal officials.
The top one says, I'd like to see a video of this alleged storming.
According to this article, Congress members were there for a scheduled visit, which he tried to join.
OK, I've shown you the video like five times, OK?
Like literally closed fist punching a Fed.
I would constitute a storming of.
The video of the incident is provided in the article showing the protest group physically forcing their way past the facility gate, assaulting ICE agents to do so.
Another video.
And the response is, in this clip, they're inside the gate and tell him to step out.
This is before he was arrested.
I'd like to know what was happening prior to the video because he was already getting arrested at that point.
Moderate politics.
Homeland Security subpoenas California's Immigrant Assistance Program.
It latest crackdown on illegal immigration.
Okay, we're getting some movement here.
DHS ain't sitting around and doing just nothing.
We've got several moves to be made, my friends, as we round out, figure out how to solve for this problem.
Democrats can't be allowed to just storm facilities.
Democrats can't be allowed in California to break the law to cheat elections.
And that's what they do.
That's what they do.
How do they do it?
By declaring themselves a sanctuary state and letting illegal immigrants in.
They bolster their residency numbers.
So when the census happens, they have more congressional districts.
Because the census counts all people, not citizens.
It includes illegal immigrants.
Democrats then get an extra, some estimate upwards of 11 congressional seats.
That's right.
Some say they may have close to 7 to 8 million illegal immigrants in the state.
I think it's a little high.
I think it's fair to say maybe five or six congressional seats.
That means Republicans, American citizens, have to overcome five or six extra votes from California.
In Congress, to pass laws that benefit the American people, they are cheating.
And this is what DHS needs to stop.
I will say this.
Do all the cheating you want.
I'm not sure AOC is going to win.
Look at this from the Wall Street Journal.
AOC isn't ruling anything out, including the White House.
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's rise to prominence worries some Democrats who say the base is taking the wrong lesson from the 2024 election.
AOC, please.
Please run.
If this is the direction they think is going to get them into the White House, please do it.
AOC represents a tiny fraction of fringe far left.
Now, she's got a little bit of X factor, but she can't win.
Look, I hate to say it.
I hate to say it, but Hillary Clinton, you know, she actually had something.
Not enough of whatever it is, actually, kind of small amount.
But that X factor, you know, Donald Trump's got it in spades, 10 out of 10. Everybody knows people won't shut up about him.
Liberals just scream Trump from the high heavens 24-7.
They love talking about the guy.
Hillary Clinton had a little bit of that.
You know what I mean?
Like, there's something grandiose about certain figures, and Hillary Clinton has it, but she sucks.
So even though people did look at her as a powerful figure, and that's kind of what I mean, they despised her.
People despise Trump, but in a different way.
Some people really do just despise him and he's disgusting.
But more people like and are willing to have a leader Trump than a Hillary Clinton.
AOC doesn't even have what Hillary Clinton has.
She is young.
And look, I want to make sure I caveat this with, I don't mean this as an insult or disrespectfully.
She is short, young, and has a high-pitched voice.
These things are all major.
That's a fact.
When these consultants come out and say, you need to have a certain kind of shoe that's expensive but not too expensive so that you don't look like a rich elitist, but you also don't look like a slob, they plan for all these things.
The color of the suit, the color of the tie, the way your hair is.
All of these things scripted down to the tiniest of detail.
Why?
When you are negotiating with a single person, it doesn't really matter because you can convince a single person if you're dedicated to that person.
So AOC can go to a single person and she can convince them to vote for her.
However, when you're dealing with, I don't know what, 250 million people who are going to vote, maybe 200 or 180.
Let's just bring the number way down.
A tiny fraction, tiny, tiny fraction, let's say 1% of 180 million.
Yeah, that 1.8 million votes you lose will cost you the election.
So when the consultants come to her and say, you cannot afford to lose a half point, you've got to put your hair down and do it like this.
She will not be able to overcome the natural biases that people have with her being short, young, with a high-pitched voice.
Now, some people have said Margaret Thatcher was powerful.
She won.
It's a parliamentary system.
The party won.
They choose their leader.
They call her the Iron Woman.
It's different.
I think AOC or any woman who runs is going to have a big challenge, and AOC is particularly bad.
If you got like a 6 '5 tall woman with a naturally deeper voice but talked firmly and sternly, maybe she could actually win.
But I do believe that there's going to be a natural bias against women.
That is to say, I agree with the left on the inherent sexism people have.
There's a lot more to break down.
I gotta make sure that I...
Well, we also have this AOCD roasted by our own constituents.
But I gotta throw it to my good friend David Hogg.
David Hogg appeared on Real Time with Bill Maher.
And he said, Democrats have abandoned men who just want to get laid and have fun.
Okay.
There's Donna Brazile.
I'm gonna say this.
David Hogg, a young man, is trying to convince the Democratic Party to change their tune.
By going on Bill Maher's show, Bill Maher gets around 40,000 viewers in the key demo.
Now, don't get me wrong, older voters are a powerhouse.
But are they really going to matter in 2028?
You're pandering to people who, again, with all due respect, are nearing life expectancy, meaning every single day these people are dying and new Gen Z are entering.
So I'm not going to tell David Ogg he did anything wrong by going on Bill Maher.
My point is, a lot of the pandering that we see and the politicking happens on shows young people do not watch.
Now, I will give a shout-out to Tara Palmieri, who hosted David Carville.
I'm sorry, James Carville and David Hogg.
David Hogg and Carville.
And, man, they went at each other.
And Carville called them names and said, we're going to win elections!
David was right.
He's like, what's your plan?
To fix his favorability gap.
You can't win elections if everybody hates you, dude.
But that being said, all of those shows, these shows they're doing, okay.
Good luck preaching to the older crowd.
They may help you out in 2028 for sure, but not 2032.
Okay?
You're in the wrong place for this.
Bill Maher's show just doesn't get those numbers.
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For everybody else, we will carry on with the next portion of this story.
And before we get into it, we have an interview.
I'm sorry, before we're getting into our interview with Texas Rep.
Mitch Little, let me give you a little bit of the news here.
From the Washington Post, Texas AG says judge and other officials arrested for vote harvesting crimes.
Republican AG Ken Paxton has led an effort to probe alleged voter fraud.
Latino leaders and others have criticized the investigation as politically motivated.
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton on Wednesday said six individuals, including a county judge and a former elections administrator, were indicted and arrested for what Paxton described as fraudulent vote harvesting scheme.
In the state's Frio County, as part of a broad investigation, Latino civil rights leaders have criticized as politically motivated.
According to Paxton's announcement, five people have been charged with vote harvesting, with one individual being charged with tampering or fabricating physical evidence.
Further details of the case were not provided in the announcement.
Several public officials are among those arrested, including a judge, Rochelle Camacho, Frio County Elections Administrator Carlos Segura, two Pearsall City Council members, and a school board member.
Segura and Pearsall City Council member Ramiro Trevino declined to comment on the indictments.
And other defendants did not respond to requests for comment or could not be reached.
The Texas Attorney General has long echoed President Donald Trump's baseless claims of widespread election fraud and has engaged in aggressive prosecutions for alleged election fraud crimes that have upended lives resulted in few cases that went to trial and ended in a conviction.
Civil rights groups and members of the community have raised concerns that Paxton's investigations tend to target black or Latino voters and volunteers, many of whom are Democrats.
And that as a result, there's been a chilling effect on volunteers and community groups that for decades have worked to increase turnout in a state with one of the nation's lowest voter participation rates.
Interesting.
That's the direction they would go.
But there is another big story.
Because fraud is not just about whether or not an individual is going to vote.
It's about illegal immigrants coming in.
And one of the big concerns we've had across this country is Chinese citizens, foreigners, and adversaries buying up our land.
So, of course, we will be talking with the Texas rep in a moment.
Here's the next story for which I want to give you the context before getting to this interview.
Texas House passes bill banning Chinese citizens from buying state land.
Chinese and other foreign citizens could soon be barred from purchasing homes in Texas under a bill greenlit by the Texas House Thursday.
The measure, which passed the Republican-led chamber in a largely party-lined vote, was significantly narrowed down from the original version.
Lawmakers voted to add exemptions for individuals residing in the United States legally on temporary worker student visas.
Dual citizens and permanent residents are also not included in the ban.
The legislation would block any other citizens of China, Russia, North Korea and Iran from purchasing homes, buying land or leasing apartments in Texas.
Quote, The state of Texas will not allow that to happen.
So, my friends, we will be joined by Texas Rep Mitch Little, who also served as an impeachment lawyer for Ken Paxson in the past.
Let me pull this up and get it loaded for you as we bring in the Texas Rep to give us a breakdown of what's currently going on.
And I believe we are currently loading.
And we have the Rep here.
Rep Little, can you hear me?
mitch little
Yes, how are you?
tim pool
I'm doing well.
How are you?
mitch little
I'm great.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Well, thank you for joining me.
We have two big stories that I was hoping to talk to you about, so I'm glad you're able to join.
The first is the arrest of these county officials, a judge for vote harvesting.
I'm wondering if you can give us a little bit of information on that and what happened or what you know.
mitch little
Yeah.
You're talking about in Uvalde, I believe.
I got the news about the same time you did.
My good friend and fellow freshman Don McLaughlin actually won as a Republican in that district, but it wasn't for a lack of trying of cheating by the Democrats.
My understanding is there were a number of county officials who were involved in it, too.
This just highlights the need for the Attorney General's office in the state of Texas to be re-empowered.
Or reauthorized to prosecute election fraud in this state.
It's more pervasive than anyone would have you believe.
The Democrats spent a lot of time a few nights ago at around 1130 at night trying to argue that this is not a thing.
It doesn't happen.
It very much does.
tim pool
I mean, do you have any specific details on what they're accused of doing or what happened?
mitch little
They were going to an old folks home with ballots.
Handing them out, picking them up, taking them.
And there was, as I understand it, it was a pay-by-ballot scheme.
unidentified
Wow.
mitch little
They were giving them however many dollars a name to go over to the old folks' home with ballots and pick them up.
tim pool
Wow.
Yeah, I think, you know, we've seen a lot of investigative work on things like this.
I believe James O 'Keefe had uncovered something like this years ago out of, I think it was Minnesota, a video of a man with stacks of ballots, and he was bragging about how much money he gets paid from collecting these things.
Do you think that's more widespread in Texas than just this one case?
mitch little
Well, what are the chances that we caught the one person who's doing it or that we caught the one ring that's doing it?
Yeah, I think, of course, it's going on more than anyone cares to admit.
On the Democrat side of the spectrum, they say this isn't a thing.
It doesn't happen.
On the Republican side, a lot of people will say.
Yeah, maybe it happens, but it's not material.
It doesn't affect the outcome of an election.
Let me tell you, you're talking about South Texas, and we're talking about literally hundreds, if not thousands of votes.
This is definitely material.
It's something we have to keep our eye on constantly.
It requires constant vigilance to fight this.
tim pool
Do you think that they're tricking these elderly people or offering them something to get these votes from them?
mitch little
I really, I don't know.
It's hard to say, but...
You think of people being in a nursing home or assisted living as being a vulnerable population.
I think it goes without saying that there are people there who are going to be compromised, more susceptible to persuasion.
This is not how our electoral process is designed to work.
tim pool
Yeah, wow.
There's also concern.
When I talk to people about this, the concern is not necessarily so much.
That illegal immigrants are voting, but that with states like California, largely, operating as a sanctuary, they have large illegal immigrant populations, which boosts their congressional seats in the census.
When they do the census, the population is increased, and for this, they're refusing to deport.
Are there other concerns, like anything you know of in Texas related to issues like that, based on what's going on with illegal immigration?
mitch little
Absolutely.
One of the big things we're working on right now in the state of Texas is bail reform.
One of those is around our illegal alien population.
It's going to come to the House floor eventually as SJR, Senate Joint Resolution 1, and it's designed to make sure that illegal aliens who commit a certain class of offense are not released on bail in the state of Texas.
So we're talking about, Tim, the most violent offenses plus any offenses involving election fraud.
I mean, if you're talking about illegal aliens' participation in the criminal process in Texas, a lot of times we're talking about the worst, most violent offenses.
Or, like in South Texas, they may be asked to participate in some kind of ballot harvesting operation.
We're also trying to make sure that any illegal alien that's caught in the manufacture or delivery of drugs in the state of Texas is held without bail.
tim pool
I mean, that sounds good.
We've been seeing a lot, especially with Trump, you know...
The big story, of course, he's going after Trendy Aragua, MS-13.
I imagine being Texas, and especially with how the illegal immigration was handled under the Biden administration, you've got a lot of problems with that.
Have you guys in the past few months been able to clean this up and change how things have been operating?
mitch little
Well, everything that happens in the legislature is initiated by some major public event.
In Dallas, I'm from the Dallas area.
I represent an area in Denton County.
In Dallas, we had a lady who was actually held up by some illegal gang members in her own home, held hostage.
You may have heard that Trendy Aragua took over an apartment complex in the Dallas area.
This is an ongoing problem.
One of the issues that we're trying to address through House Bill 17, which was by Cole Hefner, we're trying to fight both state and non-state actors of You guys, you can't deport, right?
tim pool
Is that my understanding?
It's a federal action for deportation?
mitch little
Yeah, it's a federal action for deportation, but also one of the things we're trying to do is kind of force our sheriffs into the 287G regime.
I'm sure you're familiar with that, where our sheriffs basically become deputized or empowered to work as part of the federal immigration system to make sure that people that they apprehend are then deported out of the country as part of cooperation with the Trump administration.
It's a very important thing.
Sheriff A.J. Lauerback, who's now a state representative, is carrying a piece of that legislation.
tim pool
I definitely want to talk to you about this foreign land thing.
But real quick, what's it like since the Trump administration's come in?
I mean, during the Biden administration, these videos were insane of the illegal immigration.
And now we're hearing that border crossings have dropped by some 95 percent.
It seems like the Trump admin is giving you guys the assistance you need, whereas Biden was fighting with your own state law enforcement.
I imagine it's been good?
mitch little
It's a precipitous decline in illegal immigration, which is exactly what we needed.
The state of Texas was having to deploy way too many tax dollars and way too much manpower to the border and still not even making a dent.
I mean, we're now—this is a much better time safety-wise for the state of Texas.
We are—we're seeing way fewer illegal crossings.
But the Democrats haven't helped us with that at all either.
They are trying to fight us on bail reform.
They're trying to fight us on immigration-related measures.
And obviously, you probably know we're trying to get our money back from the federal government as well for the $11 billion we expended trying to do the work of the Biden administration they refused to do.
tim pool
Immigration was one of the top issues in the 2024 election and just in general leading up to it.
What was the Democrats' argument to you guys in Texas, but also federally, to allow the degree of illegal immigration that we saw?
How could they justify that?
mitch little
Well, I'm sure you see it in...
I'm sure you see it where you are.
I see it where I am.
Everything is empathy-driven.
It's emotion-driven.
It's, oh, these people are fleeing.
They're looking for a better life.
They're coming somewhere to start over.
We're such a land of economic opportunity.
Of course, the nice thing to do is to allow people to come over whenever they feel like it.
The problem is that they never get to the natural consequence of the argument, which is Jocelyn Nungere.
So we have Jocelyn Nungare in Houston who was raped and murdered by two illegals over the course of two hours in Houston under a bridge.
Illegals.
And her mother, Alexis Nungare, actually came to my committee and the Criminal Jurisprudence Committee in the Texas House and testified in favor of bail reform, trying to make sure that this can never happen to anyone else again.
You cannot separate the empathetic or emotional aspects of illegal immigration from The hardcore reality of the criminal element that comes over here in the United States and the economic impact on services of the people of Texas as well.
tim pool
It's a crazy argument.
We've had a lot of these stories.
You had Lake and Riley, obviously, as another story.
And what we end up hearing from many of these liberal and Democrat activists or politicians is they're all just seeking a better life.
It's almost like they're applying some utilitarian view.
It's almost like an inverted Blackstone's formulation where they say it is better that several innocent, people are raped and murdered than one poor asylum seeker be turned home, turned away.
And instead of just saying we should not tolerate any degree of murder of our own citizens and exploitation of our economy, they just allow this stuff to happen.
mitch little
But but moving on, it's Truly toxic empathy is what it is.
Well, we might do some good for these people over here.
If there's one or two people who are raped, robbed, murdered, then maybe we can balance the harm against the greater societal good of making sure that these people can get jobs and have a bank account and buy a house in America.
I'm sorry.
That's not the bargain the American people voted for.
tim pool
And I think maybe they'd have a semblance of an argument if they said, we're going to change the law to allow it instead of just, we're going to let a bunch of people in illegally to do whatever they want.
mitch little
The law was an obstacle to the reformatting of the United States.
And you see that with the Biden administration's lax enforcement of the law.
It's because it's the law is an obstacle to the reimagining of America.
And by the time we got to November, thank God, enough people had decided the madness has to end.
And we're not interested in the reformatting of America.
Thank you very much.
We like it the way that it is.
tim pool
I think now one of the major move we're seeing is from you guys banning Chinese nationals, Russians, North Koreans, adversaries from owning land in Texas.
Can you explain to us what the plan there is and what's going on?
mitch little
Yeah, so I think we have just passed out of the House the strongest version of I myself wrote a bill that was modeled on Arkansas's act that Governor Huckabee Sanders signed into law last legislative session in Arkansas.
I think we have an even stronger version of it now.
There was a little bit of pushback on...
Well, what about people who are lawfully here in the United States from China?
They're tech workers.
They're doctors.
Should we allow them to own a house?
I think you've got kind of the middle 100 people in our body out of 150 going, yeah, we probably do need to allow people who are rightfully here in the country and are productive to buy a house, buy a condo.
The problem is that for every possible loophole that we leave the Chinese government.
You may be aware that the main thing that initiated this problem was somebody came in and bought 30,000 acres in South Texas up against one of our Air Force bases.
Obvious security risk.
We're not talking about some doctor's condo in downtown Austin here.
We're talking about major threats to strategic infrastructure.
I think we got a good enough bill off the House floor that is going to prevent some of that garbage from happening again.
I think we're going to look back 20 or 30 years from now and go, how can we be so stupid to ever allow Chinese nationals, companies, affiliates, entities to come into Texas and buy our land?
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, hopefully the federal government or other states start to fall in line as well because there's only so much you can do.
You know, you can protect Texas, but if the rest of this country doesn't figure this problem out, then we're going to have a national, which we do, we have a national problem on this.
One of the issues is, you know, I was having a debate with this liberal economist.
He was talking about how great it was that we have this trade with China that is completely lopsided.
He didn't call it lopsided, but he said, you know, Trump's wrong.
And I asked him, if we don't manufacture and their labor is cheaper than ours, what will they use our U.S. dollars for after we pay them?
And there's two answers.
Obviously, they're going to buy oil with the petrodollar, but they're buying U.S. land.
They're buying our hard assets from us.
Every day we buy cheap goods from them, we are just extracting more of our houses.
So one of the concerns I see with this is for the next generation.
I'm imagining Gen Z trying to rent an apartment and they're all owned by Chinese nationals.
Or that could be Russians or Iranians.
mitch little
It's shocking.
It's shocking to think that we could get there one day.
It's already happening in many respects.
We have foreign investors who are acquiring a lot of residential real estate in the state of Texas and elsewhere.
I think we need to give as a party and as a nation, we need to give President Trump latitude to reorder the international trade dilemma that we have with China.
It seems like he's already making headway, that we're making advances toward equalizing our economic relationship with China.
I think the problem is we know what the right thing to do is, Tim.
The right thing is to put China on equal footing with the United States from a trade standpoint, but there's pain to getting there.
And so all the businesses that depend on cheap labor, cheap goods, and they're more likely to engage in rent-seeking behavior, say, hey, well, we need to use the power of government to make sure everything stays cheap for me.
Well, that may be the best for you now, but it's not the best thing for the United States long term.
tim pool
I've seen so many stories from people saying that the tariffs on China was really bad for their small business, and now they may go under, and it's bad for the economy.
The scary thing is, like you said, the pain that gets you to the right place.
If we keep taking this cheap labor deal from China, our own laborers can't compete with that cost.
The end result that I fear is, a simple tangible one is, 22-year-old goes to rent an apartment, and it's a building owned by China.
Literally the Chinese Communist Party threw a subsidiary.
mitch little
We can never allow that to happen.
We can never allow that to happen.
I mean, you think about what the bedrock, the cornerstone of wealth creation, the engine of wealth creation in the United States is homeownership.
We need to make sure that our young people have a future opportunity that we and our parents had to be able to carve a life out for themselves.
We cannot be as dependent on China today as we are.
tim pool
But it's so insanely hard right now.
And, you know, so you're mentioning these loopholes.
For any and every loophole you leave, they're going to exploit.
The challenge I see with this bill is what's to stop a, you know, so the Chinese Communist Party says we want to own land near a military base or we want to own large swaths of farmland, control the food production in the U.S. So they hire some, they, you know, dish it out to some run-of-the-mill Chinese citizen.
He forms an LLC or a C-Corp or something.
The corporation buys it, and it's an American corporation.
And so it is only one layer.
But how do you stop these shell companies?
You know, the interest is still there, but they're going to find ways to hide it.
mitch little
That's a great question.
So I think we've got a good enough statute where we're going to be able to capture those entities where there is maybe limited partnership participation that's significant to a level of control.
We drafted that bill with that issue specifically in mind.
But you know, Tim, that whatever we do, there's always going to be a counter move.
You may or may not be aware that with regard to Chinese entities or Chinese ownership, the government owns what are called golden shares.
They don't even appear on the capitalization table of the company, the ownership table.
They might have what's called one golden share.
It means the country, China.
They can take it whenever they want.
So one of my big concerns, actually, Tim, was that eventually the Chinese are going to start using American citizens as a cutout.
That the American citizens will essentially do business with China as their proxy or their affiliate, hold it on their behalf.
And that is a huge concern.
You'll never believe the loophole that was in the Senate bill that came over to us.
They had an exception for leases shorter than 100 years.
So can you imagine?
tim pool
It might as well be no bill.
mitch little
You might as well own it in fee simple because now if you got a 99-year ground lease, you own the improvements, and you say, oh, well, I don't own the land.
You functionally own the real estate.
So we were able to amend that thing out of there.
This is going to be – it's going to require constant diligence on behalf of state governments, the state of Texas, other states.
To prevent China from expanding its influence here.
tim pool
This golden share thing you're describing.
So, I've never heard this.
This is crazy.
So, basically, it makes sense.
So, how does this work?
Is it like...
mitch little
So, like, you know who...
You've heard of Jack Ma, for example, right?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
mitch little
But, like, he's a Chinese billionaire.
Well, and you may remember, a couple years ago, Jack Ma just disappeared for about six months.
Yep.
Every Chinese business, whether it's a publicly traded entity or a private entity, most of them are controlled by, or probably all of them to some degree, are controlled by the CCP.
So you have no real transparency into the financial inner workings of those businesses.
So you think about an American investor investing in China, you have no transparency from an audit standpoint of what's going on financially in that entity.
And at the end of the day, because of this golden share concept, the CCP owns the company.
They can take it whenever they feel like it.
They can nationalize it, shift the ownership, shift the purpose of the business.
There's no certainty at all.
tim pool
So it's also kind of crazy to think this also lends to when these Chinese interests are buying American land, which has been a huge concern all over the country.
We look at it on paper, and we're going to see either an American corporation that owns it, and that corporation is wholly owned by a Chinese national, but then China's going to have their own version of the books outside of U.S. law where they say, sure, this guy owns that company, but we, the CCP, own him and his company, so we are actually secretly in control of all this farmland and land near military bases.
mitch little
Absolutely.
It's the same thing that's going on in offshore entities in the Caribbean, same thing that's going on in Panamanian entities that are used for money laundering.
There's going to be just a base level of opacity where you cannot see who owns the entity or who controls it.
It's one of the reasons that we put in the bill the ability for the Attorney General's office in the state of Texas to investigate that person or entity to determine whether they actually are an agent of the CCP.
In other words, they don't have a safe home base to touch if they satisfy some piece of the statute.
We're always going to have the ability to investigate it and then divest them at the real estate if they are truly an agent.
tim pool
For a show like mine and for a lot of people who follow it, we follow national news largely.
I think a lot of people overlook the importance of state-level politics.
Which literally does shape the congressional districts.
But in that regard, Paxton's been doing one of the best jobs in the country in going after a lot of the fraud, corruption, abuse that we've been seeing.
Yeah, I mean, I'm curious, considering what we saw against Donald Trump from the Democratic Party in various states, going after his lawyers and everything like that, I have to imagine that Democrats in Texas don't take too kindly to your AG over there.
mitch little
Well, I don't know if you're aware of this, Tim, but I was Ken Paxton's lawyer in his impeachment trial.
That's why I ask.
Yeah, so you obviously are aware.
The thing that I'm realizing, so I'm a freshman in the state legislature here.
The thing that I'm realizing, Tim, is the problem is not the extreme wing of the Democrat Party.
We've got 150 members in the legislature.
The problem is the hundred members in the center of the ideological spectrum here in Texas who are ideologically indistinguishable from one another.
And you have the same thing that's going on in Congress.
And we kind of colloquially refer to it as the Uniparty.
But when you have someone like Ken Paxton who's doing the right thing, doing it aggressively, the party of the status quo, the people in the center are the ones that recoil in horror about that.
I firmly believe that.
tim pool
Do you think that was just, it was bogus, it was BS, just political?
mitch little
Nothing to it.
Absolute garbage.
Should have never gotten off first base, should have never come out of the House in the first place.
tim pool
How does, I suppose you've broken it down for, I'm just kind of, I'm flabbergasted that we're experiencing this at the state level, the federal level.
You mentioned like this uniparty elements.
How do we get past this?
I mean, nationally?
mitch little
Voters have to be more demanding on a local level of their representation and their representation in Congress.
Voters have to be more informed.
They've got to be more attuned to what the people they are electing are doing.
I think what I'm learning, Tim, is that if people stay in elected office for too long, eventually they become kind of merged into whatever this machine is.
People come in with the right principles, the right beliefs, really fidelity to the people who got them there.
And there's so much pressure in state government and federal government for you to conform, to get along, so that you can, quote unquote, get things done, that eventually...
People cave.
They transform into something they never intended to be when they ran for office in the first place.
Many such cases, Tim.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's like they get in and they become jaded.
They become nihilistic.
The office becomes them instead of them taking on the office.
They just go with the flow.
Absolutely.
mitch little
You look what's going on with Senator John Cornyn, who's going to be in a primary with Ken Paxton.
John Cornyn's been...
John Corner's been working in government as long as I've been alive, just about.
Wow!
Yeah, I mean, you look at his professional background, he's been working in government as long as anyone can remember.
tim pool
So, last question, I suppose.
Is there anything that we can look forward to, actions you guys in Texas are planning on taking moving forward?
mitch little
Absolutely, Tim.
Bail reform.
We need to make sure that people, we need to make sure.
unidentified
So, the cities...
mitch little
In any state, but particularly in Texas, are eating us from the inside out.
And it's because of their incredibly lax approach to the criminal justice process.
We have violent offenders who are committing violent offenses while they are out on bail for horrific things.
And we have got to get a hold of that.
I think we're going to have something voted out of the House this week, out of committee and to the floor soon for consideration that everybody's going to like.
We need to make sure that people who are violent offenders, repeated offenders, people who are a legitimate flight risk, are not let out of jail.
That they have to await their pending trial.
tim pool
That sounds great.
mitch little
It could be great.
tim pool
I do appreciate the time, Rep Little.
Where can people find you?
mitch little
Yeah, I'm at Real Mitch Little on X. That's probably the best place to find me.
Thank you so much for having me on.
It was a real pleasure.
tim pool
Yeah, is there anything else you want to mention before we wrap up?
No, sir.
mitch little
No, sir, you're doing a great job.
I look forward to hearing.
tim pool
I appreciate it.
Thanks for joining us and giving some insights, and we'll see you next time.
mitch little
Yes, sir.
Take care.
tim pool
Take care.
That was the rep from Texas, Rep Mitch Little.
That was really great.
Really do appreciate he had time to join us and explain a bit about what's going on down there.
I want to stress, everybody, state-level politics can change the world.
It can change everything.
And we talked about this several years ago, which is why it's really important that you guys figure out who your state rep is, your state senators.
Pay attention to those elections, special elections.
We were at a point where people were talking about a potential, I think it's an Article 5. What is it called?
It's been so long since we went over this.
Basically, an Article 5 convention of states.
The states can basically override Congress, the Senate.
All that stuff.
If enough, get together.
And the Republicans control the majority of states.
But here's the secret.
Here's the plain as day secret.
You and me, the Americans, are actually the ideological center, the moral center of this country.
Now, hold on.
I'm not saying I'm morally right on everything, nor am I saying you are.
I'm saying this space that we occupy, where we say this country is for Americans, it's for our children.
We plant trees whose shade we know we'll never sit beneath.
This is our country.
But Democrats have been bringing in non-citizens, lying, claiming it's an economic benefit.
It's not.
They do it so that when the census comes around every 10 years, they get extra electoral college votes.
Then they get to vote for the president.
And then we look at the votes and we're like, how is it that the Republicans didn't win this time?
Because Democrats gave themselves five extra votes.
How about in Congress?
Man, Trump won a popular mandate, but we only get a two-seat majority in the Republican Party?
How is that possible?
Because Democrats have probably 10 extra seats because they bring illegal immigrants into this country.
Then, census counts them, and congressional seats are drawn up based on the total population size, not citizenry.
You want to change that?
We need to win at the state level.
So it's really great to see what Texas is doing because Texas has been leading the charge on so many of these things, especially with Ken Paxton.
I'll grab a couple of your Rumble rants before we send our raid over to our good friend Russell Brand, who I believe is gearing up to go live in just a moment.
We've got Devilman.
It says, Tim, my cat nearly died this weekend, but we were able to save her.
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Best of luck.
Best of luck.
Alpha to Omega first.
Howdy, people.
Thanks for the rumble rant.
Our sergeant says at my family's Mother Day cookout, my liberal was literally blaming Trump for not being able to watch baseball on TV.
unidentified
Yeah, well, you know, that's how these things go.
tim pool
J.G. Sturdivant says, I would say these Democrat reps tried to facilitate a jailbreak at a federal detention center.
Indeed, my friends, perhaps it was a insurrection.
I will just give one last little bit because I should be signing off.
We'll get that rumble raid going for our friend Russell Brand here.
But I'm going to say this.
Trump should not accept the Qatari airplane.
I'm not a fan of that.
There's so many obvious reasons.
One, we can talk like presidents shouldn't take gifts from foreign countries like that.
He's saying it's to the DOD, not just to him.
I get it.
And that's true.
Shouldn't accept it.
There's got to be some consideration.
And you know what?
We understand there's always a formality in this.
Consideration means something exchanged for something.
Something of value.
So Trump should at least give them, like, hey, you want to bring in his plane?
Fine.
The government has to make that exchange.
This has to be on the level.
I'm less concerned about that.
I don't care if a foreign government wants to give a president a plane.
I don't want Trump flying on it.
A Qatari jet?
Nah, people are like, yeah, but it's built in America.
I don't care.
I don't care.
Air Force One's got to be paid and made by us for obvious reasons.
So that's just a random aside.
We'll talk more about that tonight on Timcast IRL, I'm sure.
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