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Trump TARGETS Antifa, UW For Allowing Riots, Threatening To STRIP Funding For Far Left University
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The Trump administration has been deporting many students who were seen to be, well, they claim a threat to national security.
But we do know that what these students have in common when their visas get revoked is that they're largely critical of Israel.
State Department's basically saying, yo, look, they oppose our national interests, our foreign policy interests, so deportation.
From this, there has been many other moves.
That is...
Trump administration has stripped or threatened to strip Harvard of their tax-exempt status and threatened to cut federal funding to these universities that are woke, and thus they will go broke.
And now we have this story.
Over the past several days, there has been a series of violent riots, I guess you can call it.
The other day we saw the news that Antifa had amassed at University of Washington and set fire on the campus in numerous locations, nearly setting fire to the building.
But, you know, let's be fair, the building is brick and steel, so probably wouldn't go up.
But hey, big fires being set, completely unacceptable.
Riley Gaines said that they were throwing human feces at a turning point event at University of Washington.
She's been attacked several times.
And then we had a couple journalists on the ground, one for the Post Millennial, actually attacked and robbed, it would seem.
Buy Antifa.
There's a video of these Antifa dudes getting blasted with mace in the face.
From this, the Trump administration has put University of Washington under review, meaning they may get stripped of federal funding or any other kind of tax benefits, much the same as Harvard.
Trump is not messing around.
Now, we're not quite at the point where we're seeing the feds crack down on Antifa.
These far-left educators, and it is largely due, in my opinion, to the intentionally, let's just call it, they obfuscate their intentions, who they are.
This is called black-block tactics.
Makes it very difficult for any group of law enforcement to single out individuals and go after groups.
That being said, UW suffered a million dollars in damages when they allowed these far-left extremists to occupy a new building and...
It's as I said yesterday, my friends, the Trump administration should not be allowing federal funds to go to a university.
And these investors that have put money into this building should pull their donations if these universities will allow the far left to go in and ransack and set fire to these institutions.
Why should anybody be giving money to people if they're going to allow the far left to just rip it to shreds and destroy it?
So we've got a lot to break down here.
Of course, Bill Ackman has come out and said Donald Trump is correct.
Target the universities.
Take their tax-exempt status.
Some have been saying for years now to seize the endowments, as it were.
I don't know if we make it to that point, my friends, but let's go through the news.
And then in just about 30 or so minutes, we'll be joined by one of the journalists that was on the ground and was attacked by Antifa.
To explain to us what's been going on with these events, why these lunatics are trying to take over these buildings.
Because I'll tell you this.
You know, when I see these leftists protesting UnitedHealthcare, I get it.
I think Luigi Mangione was a crazy person, and what he did was ineffective, morally wrong.
But what was the point?
It solved nothing.
But at least I can understand.
The leftists that are holding up signs angry with a broken health care system?
Hey, I get that.
These Antifa people?
Well, I get it.
They're protesting Israel by setting dumpster fires at a university.
Not quite sure how any of these things are related.
Yeah.
Don't know how they're solving anything.
They're not.
They're nuts.
So we're going to get into all that.
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And let's jump into this news story right here from Fox News.
First, we got to talk about what the damage is and what's going on and why Trump is going after these universities.
Now, the news, of course, is that the Trump administration is targeting the University of Washington for review after militants took over an engineering building and started fires.
Quote, no institution that tolerates violence, harassment or the open intimidation of Jewish students should expect to receive billions in taxpayer support.
The first thing I'm going to say is I cringe at the motivation.
I really do.
Are you kidding me, Trump?
Come on.
We had this problem for years and y 'all could have invoked the Insurrection Act.
And let me just give the distinction between the word insurrection, the left.
Man, these people are very literal people.
It's like they can't understand the meanings of words.
The Insurrection Act says that if law is not being upheld in a jurisdiction, Trump can call in the National Guard to enforce the law.
Now, any president could, not just Trump.
Right now it's Trump.
Trump could have done this in 2020.
He did not.
Perhaps the strategy was.
Let the far left live as they want, and maybe they'll vote for him.
I don't know.
They burned down police stations, firebombed federal buildings, throwing explosives at them in the Pacific Northwest over 100 days.
Trump could have done something about it then.
He didn't.
What's the big reason they're doing it now?
Well, the kids, I shouldn't say kids, but the students, they're adults, who are getting their visas revoked, critical of Israel.
Donald Trump says we're going to suspend funding because of anti-Semitism.
Come on, man.
Well, I don't understand why you're making it so overt.
Just go after antifund.
We'll all be satisfied.
But it really does seem that the only reason these moves are being made against these universities is because this time the protest isn't about Black Lives Matter.
It's about Israel.
Now, I do think a large portion of this is related to U.S. foreign policy protecting the Suez Canal.
Trump wants the Panama Canal.
He wants Greenland for the Northwest Passage.
And he wants the Suez.
Ain't doing much to shut down the conspiracy theories.
But that being said, let's take a look at the news here.
We got this from Fox News.
Riley Gaines says literal human feces thrown in protest of Turning Point USA at University of Washington.
Approximately 150 people showed up to protest Gaines and Olivia Krolczyk speaking out against biological men competing in women's sports.
The event was titled The Fight is Far From Over, taking place Tuesday evening in the university's Ethnic Cultural Theater, led by Riley Gaines and Olivia Krolchuk.
It was a public event open to anyone with a valid photo ID.
Gaines initially wrote an ax that protesters at UW were chanting, God is trans, before updating her post with, the protesters just threw feces at the TPUSA students that check in literal human feces.
Okay, local media outlets reported, That approximately 150 people were near the building protesting the speech.
Many could be seen in social media videos waving trans flags and holding signs, some vulgar, expressing opposition to Gaines and Krolchuk.
We have this story from the Postmanennial, which elaborates a bit.
Trantifa agitators target elderly, throw feces, harass attendees in protest of Riley Gaines' TPUSA event at the University of Washington.
I bet your old ass blood is beautiful on the concrete, one of them said.
And they also yelled other expletives.
I will also stress, it would seem that the Trump administration is going after U-Dub not because of this particular protest, despite the fact it's happening around the exact same time.
Now they're going to mention much of what we already know.
Anti-fund trans activists mobilized to protest TPUSA.
But the big story that has resulted in the Trump admin taking action is more to do with the anti-Israel protests.
Antifa caused over one million dollars in damage to University of Washington during Gaza protests.
The Post Millennial Reports Antifa militants and anti-Israel radicals caused over a million in damage to a brand new engineering building at the University of Washington during a violent occupation Monday night.
Tuesday morning, a professor took Como News through the interdisciplinary engineering building and showed that...
It's more to do with I guess Antifa are Luddites as well.
Spokesman for the University of Washington told the Ari Hoffman Show on Talk Radio, quote, It's going to be a lot more.
The damage was so extensive that the spokesman told Hoffman at least two dozen classes are being moved to other locations while the building remains closed for the rest of the week.
These these impact the majority of departments in the College of Engineering and primarily undergraduate education.
Classes include introduction to biomechanics and core principles of human design centered engineering.
Zero sympathy.
I have zero sympathy.
For these for these schools, for these police, for these people.
Why would any student apply to go to this university?
You know that for years this has been going on, my friends.
It's been five years, five years since the George Floyd riots.
That means there were 13 year olds who, as they were going through high school, as they were preparing to apply for colleges.
Didn't do the research or intentionally chose to go to these psychotic crackpot universities.
I don't care.
No sympathy.
I say Trump should strip these universities of every single thing that they get from the federal government.
Why?
Why should the taxpayer fund these lunatics?
Jonathan chose his Monday night Antifa and pro-Hamas activists rampaged inside the University of Washington's interdisciplinary engineering building.
Look at this.
They smashed.
This is a 3D printer or something.
What is that?
Not the kind of evidence of showing their tactics.
It was methodical and planned well in advance.
I'm going to, you know, I'm just going to go ahead and lean on.
It was an insurance scam.
There you go.
Take out a hefty insurance policy.
Some guy puts on a mask, goes in, looks around, smashes up the tools and then says, oh, no.
Oh, no.
Oh, no.
It's ruined.
I mean, I'm kidding.
But at this point, I don't know why we give any of these people the benefit of any of the doubt.
Some sources speculated the building could be closed for the rest of the year.
We got more photos happening now.
The University of Washington, Seattle, has literally turned into a dumpster fire.
School leaders are allowing Antifa and pro-Hamas activists to dictate the terms.
The militants destroyed expensive machinery and trashed offices.
The $100 million building was recently completed, thanks in part to a $10 million donation from Boeing.
The violent radicals targeted the building to demand the university cut ties with the aerospace company because it does business with Israel.
You know, only a small handful of police could have stopped all of this.
They choose not to.
The question is, why?
And more importantly, why should we pay for it?
According to the King County Prosecutor's Office, 31 activists were arrested by police during the violent occupation.
Approximately half of them were students at the university.
So the other half weren't.
On Monday night, multiple fires were set by the radicals dressed in black block and wrapped in kefias who barricaded the doors and occupied the building.
Activists blocked the street with bike racks and dumpsters before sending them on fire.
University police called in the Seattle Police Department and the Washington State Patrol.
To help end the occupation and arrest the radicals.
Student group Super U-Dub organized the action and had been suspended for its role in causing over $50,000 in damage to the Husky Union building last year during a similar action.
Pro-Hamas and Antifa activists have been allowed to control parts of the campus since October 7th, 2023, since the October terror attacks in Israel.
In the spring of 24, agitators occupied the Quad and set up an encampment which remained in place for three weeks.
Jewish students were blocked from traversing the campus, and buildings were regularly vandalized with anti-Semitic graffiti.
Crews sent to clean up the mess had their vehicles and equipment damaged by the activists.
UW President Anna Marie Kauz issued a statement condemning Monday night's violence and anti-Semitism, but many felt it was too little too late after more than a year of allowing activists to have run the campus.
Now let me say this about Antifa.
Why we call them Antifa.
They fly the Antifa flag.
These are similar people that many have already known.
You've got, of course, Trantifa, the transgender Antifa.
They literally call themselves Trantifa.
However, that being said, it is apparent to me, and I think to most people, the Trump admin is only moving in now because Antifa has encroached upon Israel.
I mean, there's no other real explanation.
They're not announcing any action.
I mean, what if the quote was, we will not allow an institution to tolerate violence, harassment, open intimidation of Jewish students, and individuals advocating for women's rights?
Riley Gaines.
That wasn't included in their statement.
That being said, again, Antifa embodies whatever leftist cause they want at the time.
This is what Antifa does, be it BLM, whether it's class, race, Israel, whatever.
They have no unifying ideology behind them other than whatever the left says goes.
The important thing to draw a distinction to.
Black block is the tactic.
That's when people dress up in all black so that police can't identify them.
In this instance.
The individuals largely involved are the same people identified at other protests, Antifa.
They literally just say Israel is a fascist state, Trump is a fascist.
So they join the protests and they get violent.
Trump now, of course, is only reacting to the intimidation of Jewish students.
I think it's bad.
I don't appreciate any of these far leftists going around doing any of this dumb garbage, smashing up a building for whatever the cause may be.
I just wish the Trump administration would have taken it seriously five years ago.
And I will stress again, I have zero sympathy for any student who now can't go to school.
Because you knew the whole time your university allows and tolerates this.
Now, by all means, no, no, no, they arrested these people.
Oh, please.
After the fact, they could have stopped these people from going in the building.
They could have done what they needed to do to save the equipment from being destroyed.
So when your university is damaged, you can't go to school.
Guess what?
The school let it happen.
This on Tuesday, several agencies and Trump admin announced a review of the incidents of anti-Semitic violence at the University of Washington and its affiliates.
The announcement came after Antifa and ProMas riders took over this building.
This we get.
So they say this is a DOE, HHS and the GSA, the U.S. General Services Administration.
Administrators from the University of Washington called in law enforcement to quell the disturbance and remove the occupiers.
The damage had already been done by the time the building was cleared.
Over 30 activists arrested.
And indeed, my friends, it was an inside job.
Take a look at this from the Post Millennial.
King County public defender among 30 arrested after Antifa occupation of University of Washington building.
We are working with law enforcement and through our own disciplinary process to ensure those responsible face appropriate consequences for their actions.
A King County public defender.
This is a lawless state.
I think Trump should actually go after the state as a whole and strip them of tax benefits and federal funding until they actually start enforcing the law.
They say on Monday, authorities arrested more than 30 individuals who seized and occupied the Interdisciplinary Engineering Building at the University of Washington to protest Israel and its war against Hamas terrorists.
Among those arrested was a King County public defender and several affiliates of the left-wing extremist group Antifa.
All of them were booked into local jails on criminal trespassing charges with a bail set at $1,000.
It's unclear if the apprehended individuals were students and or outside agitators.
The King County Prosecuting Attorney's Office said in a statement that more than two dozen protesters have been charged with gross misdemeanor offenses, and several of them have had initial court appearances.
The majority of the protesters have already been released from custody, jail records show.
They're going to mention the name of many of these individuals.
Hence, like I said, you know, Andy Ngo, the Postman have largely tracked many of these individuals.
They know who many of them are.
They've seen these names pop up.
They say Sam Suwoka, one of the arrested individuals, has been identified as a King County public defender who has represented criminal anti-Israeli protesters in the past.
The KC public defender's office declined to comment.
So I'll just say this.
Honest question.
To those that are angry with Israel, what does smashing up biomechanical tools in a university Do to help you accomplish your goals.
I'll wait.
Because the answer is, there is nothing.
It doesn't.
Now, they might say it generates awareness or something.
Yeah, no, there's better ways of raising awareness, like literally standing in the middle of the street.
And I'm not kidding.
If you block traffic, everybody hears about it because they want to know why traffic is blocked.
Going into a university building and smashing up a tool no one has heard of, and only the specialists even know what it is.
No one's going to hear about that.
That's not going to generate attention.
All you're doing is destroying a mechanical tool that students need to use to make stuff.
What's the point?
These people are unhinged, and what they do is insane.
Now we have this tweet from Riley Gaines.
Quote, I don't want to quote this, okay?
These people are just calling for the death of elderly people who went to this event.
But we do have this video that I think...
You should see.
This is from Katie Davis Court.
Cam Higby and I were just chased by the Antifa militants targeting elderly people after they identified us as reporters.
Cam was forced to deploy mace in an act of self-defense.
Antifa robbed him of his GoPro.
The reporting, as I understand it, is that the police are investigating this as a robbery.
Here's the video.
unidentified
Scared?
Why are you scared?
Uh-oh.
I'm just walking.
Stop!
Don't touch me.
Thank you.
Run!
Run!
Run, run, run!
Mace!
tim pool
OK.
They got maced.
And I would say of these far left out of like, you know, we're going to we'll be talking to Cam in just a minute.
But my attitude largely with this is it's three guys.
It was actually I think it's two guys and a woman.
And Cam and I want to say this, Katie and Cam, they did the right thing.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
I ain't afraid of no lunatic Antifa running up to you and wiggling their hands in your face.
Been there, done that.
But the fight you win is the fight you avoid.
And anyone of discipline understands this.
We've all seen the videos of, what was that dude's name?
What do they call him?
Rufio?
Where he winds up the fist and then clocks the Antifa guy.
He went to jail for that.
I'm pretty sure he went to jail for that.
Even, these systems are corrupt.
They're going to defend the Antifa people.
The best thing you can do is get out, film, save your footage, and live to report another day.
That being said, I totally understand why people are like, bro, if you charge at me, you will regret it.
I went on Tucker Carlson a few years ago having experienced something very similar, and I would say I probably should have just backed off, but the guy got in my face and started fake swinging at me just like they were doing.
It's what they do.
They're trying to get a rise out of you.
They're trying to instigate a fight where they can say that you attacked them.
But you're running full speed at people, okay?
That's why they got maced.
And the police are investigating them as the criminals.
Now here's where it gets interesting in the bigger picture.
You may have seen this story from the past week.
Trump says he will remove Harvard's tax-exempt status.
Trump said he will revoke Harvard's tax-exempt status.
We're going to be taking away that status.
It's what they deserve.
The university is already in a legal battle with Trump admin over freezing $2.2 billion in federal grants.
On April 15th, he said, perhaps Harvard should lose its tax-exempt status and be taxed as a political entity if it keeps pushing political, ideological, and terrorist-inspired supporting sickness.
Harvard, the nation's oldest and wealthiest university, said its revocation of its tax-exempt status would be unlawful and unprecedented.
I don't care.
Do it, Trump.
We're not talking about...
Donald Trump arresting an American citizen and deporting him.
We are talking about a multi-billion dollar institution trying to play dirty games politically and then complaining when Trump says we ain't playing that game.
So do it.
Take their tax attempt status.
We got more.
This from just the other day.
The Trump administration to halt new research grants for Harvard as battle over political ideology and academic freedom flares.
Indeed.
Also, you can see this, as an aside, breaking news.
Waiting for the Pope.
No smoke yet.
Donald Trump is going after Harvard.
Unfortunately, I would say, unfortunately, it's for one reason.
Israel.
But I will say this.
Okay, I'll take it.
The universities are corrupt.
They are bad and they should not be tax-exempt and they should not get federal funds.
It is unfortunate, in my opinion, that the Trump administration didn't do anything the first time around and they're only making moves now because of anti-Israel protests.
But I don't care.
I do not care.
I'll put it this way.
There's an interesting question around the ends justifying the means.
And of course, the ends do not justify the means because you will never meet the ends.
That's the important understanding.
What that means to me, because there's a bunch of ways to interpret it.
We should not use illegal or unethical means to solve a problem.
Because then you just create a system of unethical, unjust means.
In this regard, some may say Trump should not be stopping anti-Israel protests.
Well, hold on.
This is more about the damage to the buildings.
So my attitude is this.
People should be allowed to protest Israel on these university campuses.
Problem?
When these students, and some not even students, were attacking Jewish students, threatening employees, smashing out windows, that's where they crossed the line.
The motivation for the Trump admin is this was anti-Semitic.
That's a stupid motivation, but they are still using just means to stop criminal offenders.
If the only thing we saw was a bunch of hippy-dippy leftists linking arms, sitting in the grass, singing songs, and Trump said, we won't tolerate this, I'd have a problem with it.
So I don't like Trump's motivation, but the means are just.
These people are violent, they're destroying property, and they should be arrested.
Trump should be stripping them of their tax-exempt status and their federal funding because of the violence.
That's already illegal.
But his motivation is stupid.
Bill Ackman chimed in.
And he says Trump is doing precisely the right thing as admin freezes billions of dollars for Harvard.
Billionaire investor Bill Ackman on Tuesday said Harvard University, one of the nation's oldest and wealthiest, should not be entitled to taxpayer funds when the school wastes money on what he calls administrative bloat.
Ackman, who earned undergraduate and business degrees from Harvard more than three decades ago, was speaking hours after the Trump admin said it was freezing future grants to Harvard.
I say good.
I do want to wrap this segment, though, with a little bit of information we talked about just yesterday.
Semaphore's story.
Trump's falling in the polls.
Why aren't Democrats benefiting?
I'll just answer that for you.
It's because they're an insane bunch of people.
They represent no ideology.
They have no solutions to any problems.
And for this, Trump is polling better, despite the hit pieces.
And then we have this.
This, a Canadian poll.
But I think still exemplifies a lot of the problem.
They asked, top issue by generation for the Canadian vote?
Gen Z, Millennials, Gen X and Boomers?
Boomers' biggest issue?
Dealing with Donald Trump, 50%.
Gen Z and Millennials, 27 and 28. The biggest issue, of course, for Gen Z?
Reducing your cost of living.
And millennials?
50% reducing the cost of living.
Incredible.
We see this in the United States.
It's an unhinged bunch.
The left is a coalition of lunatics and insane people.
There is a problem.
The economy is bad.
The solution?
Get rid of Trump.
That's not a solution.
That's just saying I don't like Trump.
What's your proposal after Trump is gone?
Joe Biden was the answer to that question.
Nothing.
The far left, the liberals, largely the boomers, hated Trump.
And so they said, we want to vote him out.
We want to vote for Biden.
They did.
But Biden had no plan.
Biden's campaign was orange man bad.
And so when he got in, what did we get?
Nothing.
Chaos.
Nonsense.
mumbling gibberish from a man who is incapable of doing the job.
And that's where we are today.
The Trump administration and the right largely represents an attempt at a coherent and cohesive solution-based political structure.
That is, if you're concerned about Israel, well, the anti-interventionist right is doing a way better job of things.
A lot of people don't like Dave Smith, but Dave Smith's particularly effective in asking questions about foreign policy and our involvement in these in these incidents.
Much respect.
The far left is smashing windows, completely unrelated to anything having to do with this conflict.
For what point?
No idea.
Well, my friends, I'm going to wrap up this portion of the show here.
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Thank you all for hanging out, and we'll see you all in the next segment.
For the rest of you, we will be joined by Cam Higme in just a moment.
But I want to get started playing this clip for you guys.
Many of you may have already seen it.
We did play it in a previous segment.
This is Antifa attacking two journalists, Katie Davis-Court and Cam Higby.
And I want to show you exactly what's going down in the Pacific Northwest.
Let me play that video.
unidentified
Scared?
Why are you scared?
Uh-oh.
I'm just walking.
Stop!
Don't touch me!
Thank you.
Run!
Run!
Run, run, run!
tim pool
And there you can see it looks like we have in this video, I believe they say Cam Higby deploying mace in an act of self-defense as Antifa had robbed, attacked and charged at these individuals.
What we've seen in the past week or so, once again, Antifa riots and violence escalating over two big issues.
Riley Gaines, who made an appearance protesting male competitors in women's sports and anti-Israel protesters taking over buildings.
And I'll say it in efforts to do what I honestly don't know.
But we do have joining us right now, Cam Higby, who was on the ground and actually was attacked by these Antifa individuals.
So we'll be pulling him in right now.
Let me make sure I get it all set up.
Cam, can you hear me?
cam higby
I can hear you loud and clear.
tim pool
How's it going?
You're alive.
cam higby
Pretty good.
tim pool
So I just watched that video where you guys got attacked by Antifa and you deployed mace.
cam higby
Yeah, yeah.
So they had been following elderly couples that were leaving that Riley Gaines event pretty much from the point people started trickling out.
You know, some people were leaving early.
And it was like old women with canes and just like extremely old.
Couples of people, the elderly woman with a cane specifically, was alone.
Following them to their car, saying they want, I don't know what I can say on here, but it's pretty bad stuff.
Like very graphic descriptions of how they wish they were dead or wish they got killed.
And after one of them, they discovered that Katie Davis Court was a journalist or they had a suspicion or something.
They chased her.
And then everything was fine again.
The police didn't go with them for another person they followed, and at the end of that, they chased her again and got super close, and I sprayed him.
tim pool
So this is obviously over the past—how many days has this been going on now with, like, different protests where Antifa is showing up and getting violent?
cam higby
The only two that I've been to recently—I don't know if there's been any prior.
I was out of town for a couple days, so— I've been to two recently where they took over this building and then this one today, but I'm sure there's been more.
I mean, there's protests going on all the time here.
tim pool
Yeah, absolutely.
I believe there was some in Portland and now in Seattle.
cam higby
And Riley was in Portland.
tim pool
What was that?
cam higby
Riley was in Portland when those protests were going on too.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
And then I think she spoke in Portland and then she spoke in Washington, right?
cam higby
Yep.
tim pool
Not too far away, I suppose.
So you and Katie, you embedded in Antifa?
You, like, dressed up like them?
cam higby
Yeah, yeah.
We were in full black block.
Pretty much indistinguishable.
It was funny, actually, at one point, like, John Cho was coming up, and he's like, look at this guy.
tim pool
He didn't know it was you?
cam higby
Yeah, I texted him.
I was like, hey, that was me.
tim pool
Oh, wow.
But did he put that video up?
cam higby
It worked.
tim pool
It worked.
How did these guys figure out that you weren't actually Antifa?
cam higby
I'm not sure.
They never figured me out until I sprayed them.
But somehow, I think they just started like, I think they got suspicious of Katie because she was filming.
And then they just, the big one just sprinted at her.
And then they took her running from him as she's not one of us.
And I talked to them afterwards.
The Antifa people?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They were like, because, I mean, we were with them the whole time.
And they were like, I was like, what happened?
And the big guy was like, I think she's filming for the other side.
And I was like.
Oh, wow.
I should go talk to her.
And he goes, are you with this side?
And I was like, what, this side of the street or this side of the protest?
And he's like, this side of the protest.
And I was like, yeah, of course.
Of course I'm with this side of the protest.
So I went over and talked to Katie, and I was like, oh, yeah, whatever.
And then, you know, yeah, she's with us, whatever.
And then they chased her again, and that's when I saw it.
tim pool
Oh, interesting.
So do you want to break down what was going on, how this started?
There was obviously the occupation of that engineering building, which caused—they're saying right now— A million dollars in damages, but that's an early estimate.
So you were there.
You were embedded for that.
How did that happen, and why didn't the police—how does this come to be where the police don't stop it?
cam higby
Yeah, I mean, at first there was no police presence.
So it's kind of like—I mean, in these places, I've done a lot of journalism in L.A. and now a lot in Seattle.
And in these cities, the police just don't really do anything about— Base-level property damage.
They don't really care.
So they show up, they take over the building, much like what happened at UCLA.
And they claim that it's funded by Boeing.
I think that's true to some degree.
It's the Interdisciplinary Engineering Building.
So they take it over, they occupy it, and it's kind of in a U-shape.
So they have a bunch of people inside the building that are occupying, and then they have even more people outside the building in the inner part of this U-shape.
That the building forms.
It's like a staircase that goes down.
So they're down in there and they're kind of doing like vigils for Hassan Nasrallah and Ishmael Hanea, Hamas and Hezbollah terrorists.
And whatever.
But then there's Antifa up on the street, and they're moving bike racks and statues and all kinds of stuff from around the campus to block the streets.
At one point, they had a long line of buses going both ways because it forms kind of a T-shape in the road.
And so they're blocking all these buses.
They had some interfights about whether or not they should be blocking the working class on these buses.
But ultimately, it was decided that who cares?
They're blocking the police.
The police formed up in an alley on the opposite side of the street where they had another barrier which consisted of some tipped over dumpsters, some bike racks with Lime scooters and electric bikes just thrown around.
And they lit that on fire when the police showed up in the alley to separate them from the police.
And it unmitigated.
This fire went on for 45 minutes.
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait.
Real quick.
The Lime scooters?
They sat on fire?
cam higby
They set the dumpster on fire and the Lime scooters were like in the pile of crap.
tim pool
Those things have massive lithium-ion batteries.
cam higby
Yeah, yeah.
And there's videos.
I posted some videos students took on my Twitter.
They were exploding like every five minutes.
You'd just hear a huge bang.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Yeah.
But again, why aren't the police coming in and just shutting this stuff down?
cam higby
That's a great question.
They should have done it as soon as they occupied the building, but they didn't.
And so they gave a dispersal order, 1021, everybody better be out of here, you're subject to arrest.
Now there's a huge fire in between them and the protesters, so that 1021 turned into like a 1045.
And so they ended up coming up, they formed a police line around the building.
They told everybody, you're fine to peacefully protest outside the building, even though they're, like, you know, getting in the police's faces.
Prior to the police coming up, actually, though, somebody yelled out, does anybody have projectiles?
And then they started gathering stones up, so there were all these piles of rocks in the roads.
There was bigger rocks, like maybe this size, that were thrown into the road to, like, obscure vehicles, and then there were smaller rocks, you know, like this, piles of them everywhere that were meant to be thrown at the police.
tim pool
Did these people have a coherent demand?
cam higby
Divest.
unidentified
Yeah, it was— Okay, fair, fair, fair.
cam higby
I think with the buses, it was—you know, this would just be easy if they would just divest.
The easiest way to get the buses through would just be to divest.
It's like, oh my god, it's so silly.
tim pool
Was it like two different groups, though?
Because, you know, Antifa tends to be this immersive group of general leftist causes.
But then we're hearing that, you know, this— And I want to draw this thing.
There's two different – actually, there's like three or four different protests.
But here at UW, there was the Riley Gaines.
That was the transgender one.
This one we're talking about right now was the Israel, Boeing, DeVest, whatever.
But did it seem like there were two distinct groups of ideology among the protesters?
cam higby
I wouldn't say distinct, but there was definitely like infighting.
Like we had the bus infighting, and that's like – you see that there's kind of two factions or several factions of people there.
These leftist protests, I've observed, kind of just become a conglomerate.
Like you have the trans stuff, and forever you'll see trans stuff at leftist protests.
Now there's the Gaza stuff.
Forever, now you'll see Palestinian flags at leftist protests.
And there was another incident where they were kind of infighting yesterday, the same day that the spray was deployed, where this dude, who I think he's actually tabled with me at UW, where he...
He got on the mic and he said, we need to show the right wing that we're not violent.
We can't give them what they want.
They want us to be violent, whatever.
And the Antifa crowd that was flanking the protest started yelling, they started the violence.
We need to be violent.
It's not business as usual, blah, blah, blah, whatever, you know, the usual.
tim pool
Well, they're basically lumping the right.
This is the funniest thing about what the left does.
Now, I call them the left because, as we're pointing out here, It is a group of protesters and their causes change, right?
When they had the anti-Israel protests at Columbia, New York, they had the people's tent.
They had a bunch of socialist causes aligned with anti-Israel.
And these are two distinct causes, but they lump them all together.
They protest together, they riot together, and they actually say, you know, respect the diversity of tactics.
Whereas on the right...
The left will claim that neo-Nazis and libertarians are the same faction.
Or my favorite meme recently was—it was a meme about Donald Trump funding Israel.
And I don't know if you saw this.
Hitler, like the ghost of Hitler, was patting Trump on the back, praising him for Trump sending weapons to Israel.
And the responses were like—I think Kyle Kalinske posted it.
People were like— So anyway, we say the left, there is a general large amorphous blob where you have Antifa adopting whatever cause it might be and then aligning themselves with whatever is in the news at this moment.
I mean, I'm ranting right now, but...
You know, moving on to—actually, I'm curious if there's anything you wanted to add before we move on to the next protest, like anything you saw that people should know about.
cam higby
I mean, yeah, we went over the fires.
It's just the stuff that they're chanting outside of the violence and having to deploy the spray.
The stuff they're chanting.
Can I repeat what they said, or is that going to be like a TOS thing?
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know, actually, because I pulled some of it up, and I'm like, I don't want to read this.
They were calling for death and murder.
cam higby
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
And threatening other people.
cam higby
In very graphic ways, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
cam higby
And it's like, you see what they're, it's like, it's funny, I saw a post that, Andy reposted either something that Katie or I filmed, and it was like, the most vile thing you could say to a person, and then it's like, you just see the preview, and the camera pans over, and it's like this little old lady, like...
Hunching over with a cane.
It's like, oh my god.
It's like, I saw it in person and I'm still shocked by it.
tim pool
And that's Andy.
cam higby
It's just terrible.
tim pool
That's Andy Ngo, you're saying?
Yeah.
I noticed you have that dumpster behind you.
cam higby
Yeah, this is my souvenir I took the other night.
tim pool
It's an Antifa garbage shield.
cam higby
Yep, yep.
unidentified
So, how did you get that?
cam higby
Well...
I mean, they were just laying out in the street, and it seemed there was a group that was kind of standing around them, and I was getting ready to leave, and so I just grabbed it.
We took two of them.
tim pool
It's crazy to me that the police allow these people to show up with these tools and these weapons.
I mean, I get you can grab a rock off the street, but this shows premeditation.
It shows conspiracy to commit a crime.
It seems to me that in the Pacific Northwest, they want and encourage it.
And then one of the stories from Postmillennial was that one of the people arrested at this protest was a public defender.
cam higby
I think Ari Hoffman also reported that one of them was a nurse, too, at a local hospital or clinic or something.
It's just, I don't know.
And there's older people there.
These people are not all students.
And what's really jarring, too, to your point about the police, is there were several points.
The other night where this police line was formed around the interdisciplinary engineering building, and the police were like actively saying, you're committing a crime right now.
If you keep doing it, we're going to arrest you.
And it's like, they keep doing it.
And it's like, if you keep doing it, we're going to arrest you.
And they just keep doing it.
And there's no arrests made.
And it's really not the police's fault.
It's not their fault.
It's the fault of the broken city with a broken system full of prosecutors who will not prosecute people who are committing violence in the name of things they believe in.
tim pool
Well, I got to be honest.
I mean, I don't have sympathy for these people.
You know, they vote for it.
Do you live up there?
cam higby
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, man, why?
cam higby
Yeah, just like my girlfriend has a job up here.
And I mean, it is kind of convenient that I can go report on this stuff.
But it's like, you know, you go out and it's like the situation that happened where they're like chasing us down and I have to deploy pepper spray.
It's like, that's scary, first of all, because it's like...
I don't know if they have a knife.
I don't know if they have a gun.
I don't know what they have.
They could do some serious harm to me or to Katie, who is like four times smaller than this giant Antifa gorilla who's chasing us.
And then it's like, if I defend myself, am I going to go to jail?
tim pool
Probably.
Yep.
So then, what was it?
The next day is when the Riley Gaines thing happened?
cam higby
Yeah, the next day was the Riley Gaines thing.
I'm actually surprised that it wasn't worse yesterday because...
It kind of felt like taking over the building was a warm-up for the Antifa people, and they were definitely there, and they were definitely stirring some stuff up, but it kind of just dispersed after the pepper spray thing.
tim pool
I guess it's probably because Riley Gaines was speaking during the day.
cam higby
Yeah, probably.
tim pool
So, yeah, they come out at night.
That's when they're emboldened.
So, what went down there?
I mean, did anything significant happen?
I know that they were reportedly throwing feces.
cam higby
Yeah, there was one person that was, like, waving a trans flag everywhere.
And it's funny, too, because the person came up, and I have no idea what gender this person was, what sex or anything, but came up through a bag of some kind of feces at the people who were guarding the door for the Turning Point event.
And this is, by the way, the police have a line in front of these people.
So through the bag of poop, past the...
The people, I didn't, I saw this, but I didn't know what it was until I saw Katie's reporting.
And so that happens.
And then this person is still coming up and like waving the trans flag.
And she's, he, she, whatever, is like waving it in front of the police, like right in their faces.
And one of the cops snatched the flag and was like, you're not, this is like, you're using this as a weapon.
You're not allowed to have this.
And then they gave it back.
Like immediately.
It was like, they're like, that is just, that is.
Confiscation of personal property.
You just stole that.
Whatever.
And immediately the police just give it back.
tim pool
Part of me wants to think that what's actually going on is like the RoboCop narrative where they're allowing Antifa to do this because it lowers property values so they can start snatching up properties for the public for their commie plans or whatever.
cam higby
Could be.
tim pool
But I don't know.
I guess the argument is...
They don't want to make arrests of Antifa because it'll generate viral videos, which will exacerbate the riots and the protests.
But, you know, I don't believe that because they're as bad as they've been and they're getting worse.
cam higby
And the sad part is, like, we need federal law that bans protesting with masks because these people also stole my camera and they left with it.
And now I lost my footage for the entire day.
$400 worth of equipment.
It was just a GoPro, so it wasn't like a $1,000 camera or anything.
Now I don't have the footage.
I don't have the camera.
I don't have the mount for the camera that mounts it to my chest.
I got bear sprayed in LA in the person who was wearing a mask.
I have no way of identifying who this person was to sue them or to bring any kind of legal repercussions against them because I have the body camera footage.
They're doing it clear as day.
Their face is fully covered and there's no way to identify them.
tim pool
They tried this in D.C. during Trump's first inauguration in 2017.
You had probably a thousand people in black block.
You know, they're all wearing masks and hoodies and sunglasses.
So they go there with the intent to obfuscate the crimes of their comrades.
And then what happens is the police couldn't identify any single individual.
So they arrested everyone.
They put 230 or so people charged them, put them through trial.
And charged them with conspiracy because they knew they couldn't get any one individual because they're wearing masks.
The court not only dismissed it, but the Antifa people sued the government, the federal government, city of D.C., and won a million bucks.
How do you function when these people are able to do these things every day?
So I would say to your mask point, people should be allowed to wear masks.
People should be allowed to wear masks at a protest.
But if you commit a crime, it should aggravate that crime.
So if a protest becomes a riot and you're wearing a mask and now you're breaking the law, it should be a way more serious penalty.
I think the challenge is, like, sometimes you wear a winter face mask.
You can't make that illegal, you know?
cam higby
Sure.
tim pool
The reason why Antifa ends up winning is because the courts were like, look, you can't charge someone with conspiracy because they happen to be wearing a black hoodie.
You'll end up arresting some random person.
cam higby
It's a good point.
tim pool
But who knows?
I mean, I will ask you this, though.
Trump is now saying that they're going to put UW under review following the occupation of this building.
But the Trump admin in the first term didn't go after these universities when Antifa was firebombing buildings and protesting for Black Lives Matter.
It seems now that the only reason the Trump admin is going after these universities is because they're engaged in anti-Semitic behavior targeting Jewish students or there are students being deported.
Because they're critical of Israel.
I'm curious your thoughts on that.
cam higby
Yeah, I mean, I don't recall exactly what happened back in 2020 so long ago, but I don't think it is necessarily because of that.
I think Trump is just cracking down on everything now and doesn't have any fears because he doesn't have to run for re-election again.
But like today, or not today, yesterday, it wasn't about...
Anything related to Israel or anything like that.
It was a Riley Gaines thing, and they're doing the same stuff.
So I don't think that that's really the case because they're protesting lots of stuff.
But UW is a ripe place to crack down on.
I mean, I table at UW virtually every week, and they come up to me and they steal my hat, my MAGA hat off my head.
They rip my signs off my table.
They try to steal my camera.
They turn my camera off while I'm recording.
It's just like it is a campus full of absolute degenerate miscreants that don't understand the rule of law because there is no rule of law in Seattle, Washington.
Your laws are only as good as the mechanism.
I think I'd say they do understand the rule of law very well.
Why is that?
tim pool
enforce it so they can get away with these things.
If the police were going to arrest them and they were doing it, I'd say they must not understand or they don't care.
But I think one of the biggest issues we've seen with Portland and Seattle, you had the Chaz Chop, whatever they called it.
They didn't want to call it the Chaz because autonomous, because it's like a legal thing or something like that.
But people were killed.
And then they tried in Portland.
They did it in Atlanta.
They didn't in Minnesota.
But largely in the Pacific Northwest, you had this going on where they seized a police building.
So my only conclusion is the police are in on it.
And maybe you're right.
When you said it's not really the police's fault individually, like these beat cops know that even if they try to make an arrest, they're going to get yelled at by their boss.
The person's going to get let go.
The city is going to pay a settlement and they're going to get in trouble.
I suppose I would I would say the police bear some responsibility for this, because if these cops really felt that their hands were tied and it was unjust, they should just resign in protest.
I can't do my job.
I'm not going to because what would happen?
To these cities, if the police just said, nope, and then the protesters got to do whatever they wanted, the people who live in these cities might actually then vote to change things, unless, of course, it's what they want.
So I don't know, man.
I'm curious then, what are your thoughts on the sentiment of the people who live in Seattle in and around UW?
cam higby
I think it's pretty divided because I think...
You get a lot of people who are honking their horns as they drive through.
But as I was walking down the street in Black Block, I had a lot of really angry people yelling at me.
Like, hey man, where's the violence happening today?
What are you going to do?
Beat up an old lady today?
Are you going to take over another building?
They can't tell, but I'm laughing.
I felt bad because there was a cameraman for this new station.
And I won't say who or what station.
You know, he's not for these people or whatever, but he's not doing anything wrong.
He's like this little innocent Hispanic guy and he's so sweet and they're like walking by just finishing harassing these old people and he's in the parking lot and they walk by and why don't you, you know, end your life too?
And, you know, it's just like you just see the like the sadness like wash over these people's faces.
And so I went over afterwards and I like pulled my mask down.
He was like, hey, how are you?
You know, but it's like you just feel bad for these people that are just getting harassed for literally no reason.
And there are there are no repercussions for threatening violence against people or for following people to their cars and shouting out their license plate numbers or standing in front of people and false imprisoning them.
Yeah.
tim pool
What a crazy place, man.
I've got a question for you that no one outside of Seattle who's never been there will understand, and it's going to be great.
So do you guys, when you hang out at UW, do you still go eat a bag of dicks?
cam higby
I don't get this joke.
tim pool
Really?
cam higby
Like you'd get it if you went to UW?
tim pool
Yeah, there's Dick's Burgers, man.
So everybody goes and walks up to get a bag of dicks.
And so when you hang out there...
People be like, hey, you want to go eat a bag of dicks?
And you're like, excuse me?
And they're like, let's go.
And then you walk up to the drive-in or whatever.
It's all the drive-in.
But you walk up and you get a bunch of cheeseburgers.
cam higby
Yeah, okay, okay.
Interesting.
tim pool
Well, go eat a bag of dicks and you get a chance.
cam higby
I hang out right in Red Square or in the quad.
And I sit there.
I park my car under Red Square.
I sit in the quad.
I do my tabling.
And then I get the hell out of there as fast as I can.
I do not waste any time around the surrounding area.
tim pool
Yeah, it's like a chain.
They've got them all over Seattle, I guess.
Well, not all over, there's a handful of them.
But I haven't been, I haven't been to Seattle in like 15 years.
And I remember when I was down there, do you guys still, do you still have the Avrats?
cam higby
Like, are you talking about like homeless people all over the Av?
tim pool
When I was there, there was a group of young people, scuzz punk, lefty types, they called the Avenue Rats.
They called the Avrats.
And they lived on the University Avenue by all the markets and all the food and restaurants.
cam higby
I think I might have interviewed one the other day.
I don't go on the Ave very often, but I mean, the Ave is crazy.
I was interviewing this dude who might have been one of these Ave rats the other day, and we're interviewing him, and this homeless dude comes up, and he starts just like, there's this smaller...
Girl who's, like, listening to our conversation, standing kind of off to the side.
And this dude, this homeless dude, comes up right behind her and he starts throwing these e-scooters and e-bikes.
He's, like, yelling because he can't park his bike or, like, in the bike zone.
unidentified
I don't know.
cam higby
But then, like, somehow he got in front of us and now you can just hear, like, disembodied screaming coming all up and down the ab.
It's crazy.
tim pool
It's kind of crazy, man.
How old are you?
25. Yeah, man.
Jeez, I'm 39. It really does feel like all of our cities are getting worse.
Yeah.
I mean, I've had stories of crazy homeless people, but the stuff we see popping up now I don't think is just a phenomenon of social media making it more apparent.
I heard stories out of New York, Chicago, Seattle, L.A. I mean, the videos that come out of L.A. with the homelessness of people taking dumps in the street.
I also got to be honest, never been to—I covered protests for about eight or nine years on the ground across the U.S. and in other countries.
Never saw someone throw feces at somebody.
You know, seems like things have escalated.
cam higby
They absolutely have.
The tactics are changing.
And I didn't even realize that's what she threw until I saw, like— John Cho texted me and he's like, somebody threw poop outside.
And I was like, what?
I didn't believe him.
I was like, no way.
tim pool
Man, at least it was in a bag, I guess.
cam higby
I guess.
Disgusting.
tim pool
Sooner or later, I won't be.
Anyway, man, thanks for joining us.
Is there anything else you wanted to add about what you're seeing or what you may be covering in the future?
cam higby
Yeah, I mean, I'll just be covering these protests as they come.
Follow on X, and I can only cover them as they come.
I'm not planning the protests, so when there is a protest, I'll be there.
tim pool
Where can people find you?
cam higby
You find me on X, at Cam Higby, or on YouTube, at Cam Higby.
tim pool
Right on, man.
Well, stay safe out there.
Don't get feces thrown at you, and good luck, brother.
cam higby
Yeah, thanks.
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
See ya.
tim pool
Ladies and gentlemen, that was Cam.
And, you know, he's obviously on the ground here.
And actually, let me pull this video back up.
Because I'm pretty sure in the video, you can see him.
Let me play the video again.
I think that's Cam back there.
I think that's him filming.
I'm just walking.
unidentified
Stop.
*laughs* Fuck!
Fuck!
tim pool
Because you can see, I think he's right here.
I should have just asked him.
And then, I think he sprays her in the face with Mace.
unidentified
I think he maced her.
tim pool
Yeah, I think he just got her.
unidentified
Run!
Run, run, run!
Mace!
Yup.
tim pool
Yo, man, it is wild out there.
Let me just, I'll just say a few more things, and if you guys got any Rumble rants you want to throw in, we can maybe grab a couple.
unidentified
But...
tim pool
You know, I got started doing all this, covering these protests, these conflicts on the ground.
And the stuff that I've been seeing, it has gotten absolutely crazy.
Look, the worst thing that happened to me when I was covering this stuff, you know, from Occupy to the protests, they would swing at my camera.
I had one instance in New York where someone swatted my hand with my phone in it.
But that was about it.
It was a big deal, too.
There was actually a big story.
I wonder if you can find this.
I wonder if you can find the old story.
Yeah, there you go.
NBC News.
Look at this.
Yo, look at 25-year-old me.
Cameras no longer welcome at Occupy Wall Street attack highlights conflict.
Yup, I even had live stream written on my phone, and then some dude physically attacked me.
But to the point where they're throwing feces and they bloodied up Andy Ngo, it's getting crazy.
What I will say for Cam, for those other guys that are on the ground, for me, it got to a point where I was getting attacked.
I was getting trolled.
There's a video to Boston where this right-wing dude pulls my head off.
And I, like, naturally just got super pissed.
At that protest...
Some Antifa guy who was like, I don't know, 240 pounds.
Got in my face and was swinging at me.
Threatening to hit me.
And so here I am.
I got this guy in my face.
And then I walk down and then this dude comes up behind me and then yanks my head off.
And I'm just on edge already.
Super pissed off.
Surrounded by the far left.
And now I'm like, now these guys are coming up to me.
I just was like, this is...
It's getting too much.
People know who I am.
And so I was in...
I think I was in Portland.
And I actually had some 30-year-old guy, it's like the craziest thing in the world, chasing me, literally jumping in front of the camera, just making weird noises.
And he wasn't associated with any of the protests.
The cops couldn't do anything about it.
And it's at this point, it's like, you can't actually do the job anymore.
So here I am, you know, and that's where I end up.
So shout out to all the guys that are still on the ground doing this reporting.
One question I should have asked is like, how come nobody's live streaming anymore?
You used to have people, they would go live.
But I suppose too many people are using those live streams to find you and then disrupt what you're doing.
And if you're going to be like Cam or Katie and you're undercover, you're dressed in black block to try and avoid being attacked, a live stream will just get you exposed.
That's how much things have kind of escalated.
But I think we do have a couple rumble rants here, or at least one that came in.
And we got men walk away saying Antifa and BLM are the brown shirts of fascist Democrats.
Indeed, man.
Indeed.
What do we got?
We can grab maybe a couple chats here before we raid our good friend Russell Brand.
And let's see.
Let's see.
Brojack says, well, you always dress like a homeless male prostitute.
Hard to not pick you out of the crowd.
Are you talking about me?
Maybe.
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We read them off, many of them.
And let's just take this space.
So if everybody who watched this show right now shared the show and came and watched him cast IRL, we would have the number one show in the country.
And I'll give one shout out.
Steven Crowder, on average, number one.
However, when these, you know, they were the IRL streamers, I got no beef.
But like iShowSpeed, Kysonet, these guys dominate.
And mad respect for creating entertaining content.
I do.
I really respect that.
We're talking about news, changing the world, war.
We can do it, too.
So, guys, share the show with everyone you know.
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