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April 30, 2025 - Tim Pool Daily Show

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Mass EU Power Outage Sparks Fear Of GLOBAL SOLAR DISASTER, Cyberattack RULED OUT

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yesterday, power went out across parts of Europe, in Spain, Portugal, and a small part of France, I believe in the Basque region.
		I'm not an expert on European geography for the most part, but this is isolated largely to Western Europe.
		We don't know what happened.
		Now, they're saying it's a strange atmospheric phenomenon that caused the power to go out, and they are ruling out a cyber attack.
		However, despite this, we're still hearing reports that not only is A cyber attack is still a real potential.
		With the escalation of conflicts happening around the world, there are a lot of threat actors, as it were, who may actually try to strike at NATO resources wherever they can.
		Why Spain?
		Nobody knows for sure.
		Now, last week, it was reported that there was a Russian cyber attack.
		Days ago, it was reported there was an attack on Iran, a cyber attack.
		And we in the United States have been attacked by China basically every day for 20 years.
		They're constantly trying to break into our systems for data.
		Worse, our industrial control systems.
		These are the mechanisms by which we control our electrical grid, water pumps, chemical facilities, etc.
		But right now, strangely, you know, it's not, it's tough for me because it's not really the kind of story that I go after because it seems so outrageous.
		But we are getting this report, not just from Express.co.uk, but also The Guardian, about a potential solar storm worse than Chernobyl, a warning after the Spain and Portugal outages.
		Was this actually caused by a weather phenomenon?
		Maybe a weakening of the magnetosphere, which allowed solar radiation, space particles to blast our electrical grid, shutting it down?
		Maybe.
		NASA's been investigating a dent in the magnetosphere for some time, but I'm not an expert.
		So we will be bringing in one of the experts, if not the expert, Ben Davidson, later on to break down for us what this may have been.
		He did a big stream on what happened in Europe, but there is a concern now.
		And this, my friends, is mainstream.
		You know, when you talk about things like a solar storm worse than Chernobyl that could knock out the grid and cause nuclear meltdowns, they say that you're a conspiracy theorist, you're blackpilling.
		But then The Guardian and Express published this story both just one day on the same day, actually, as this disaster.
		So we're going to break this down and go through what exactly this could mean and what the real threat of war may be.
		Before jumping into that interview with Ben Davidson, who's going to break down some of the science for us and what we may be about to experience.
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		Let's read the story from Express.co.uk.
		Solar storm, worse than Chernobyl, a warning after Spain and Portugal outages.
		Experts claim there is a possibility that solar storms will hit more frequently now than in the past.
		They go to mention the Chernobyl disaster.
		It took place April 26, 1986, a nuclear accident in Ukraine that occurred as a result of a reactor explosion that led to vast amounts of radioactive material being thrown into the environment.
		The impacts were severe and it remains the worst nuclear disaster in history.
		Now, scientists suspect that solar storms, powerful enough to collapse portions of modern power grids for months, may hit the Earth more often than once in a century, according to The Guardian.
		And this is where we're currently at.
		How a solar storm could lead to a U.S. nuclear disaster worse than Chernobyl.
		And in fact, they go on to mention solar storms, these fears, and why it's coming up.
		Now, I have a few questions.
		Why publish this story just before this grid goes down?
	Did anybody know about it?
	Probably not.
	But it is an interesting coincidence.
	There has been speculation for some time.
	We have these stories from NASA, mind you.
	This is from 2023.
	Scientists are getting kind of anxious about a pothole in space.
	Indeed.
	And this has been known about for a long time.
	So I wonder.
	When people start popping up with these narratives.
	Saying, hey guys.
	Scientists, researchers, space weather experts are warning that the magnetosphere of Earth, which is basically a force field that repels space particles, solar wind, etc.
	There's a hole in it.
	It's getting weaker.
	Something may be coming.
	And then a day after this story is published, you get a power outage that they are saying is the result of induced atmospheric vibration.
	People start to wonder.
	Now, we don't know for sure, because again, there are still people who believe it may be a cyber attack.
	They are ruling this out.
	The other explanation is that around the same time, just the day before, Spain announced that they were going totally green energy.
	Solar panels would power everything.
	Not literally all solar panels.
unidentified		And then the grid went down.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Perhaps this narrative of solar storms or cyber attacks is to cover up policy failures from crackpot leftist politicians that have been arguing for renewable energies which cannot systematically.
		Hey, look, I'm a big fan of renewables, my friends.
		I like the idea, but we don't call them renewables.
		We call them alternative.
unidentified		Why?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They don't largely get used for something as grandiose as powering an entire grid for a nation.
		It requires more energy to produce them than they will output.
		Unfortunately for us, fossil fuels still.
		The best energy return on energy invested, though nuclear can rival this.
		Maybe fusion energy will come soon.
		But these politicians in Spain and in Europe and even the U.S. have been bragging and demanding for these systems.
		Could it be that actually what happened in Spain is not a solar disaster, not the pending end of the world, not a Russian threat, but their own failures smacking them in the face?
		And then once again, they want to cover this up.
		Perhaps.
		With the Daily Mail reporting, could renewable energy be to blame for a huge Spain blackout?
		How outage struck days after the country's grid ran entirely on green power for the first time?
		Okay, I'm going to lean towards, yeah, that may be the case.
		But let's do this.
		First, I want to give you the context around what happened in Spain.
		They are ruling out a cyber attack, but what are they claiming happened?
		We have this report from the BBC.
		Spain rules out cyber attack, but what could have caused the power cut?
		The Spanish grid operator has ruled that a cyber attack is the cause of a massive power cut that crippled Spain, Portugal and parts of France.
		Red Electrica's operations director, Eduardo Prieto, said preliminary findings suggest there was no kind of interference of the control systems to imply an attack, echoing Portuguese Prime Minister Luis Montenegro the day before.
		But the exact reason behind the cut is still unclear.
		The grid operator said on Tuesday they cannot draw conclusions until they get concrete data.
		Spain's Prime Minister Pedro Sanchez said investigators were trying to pinpoint the cause and then would take all necessary measures to ensure that this does not happen again.
		Information is trickling out about what happened at the time of the cut, leading to theories about what could have caused it.
		Experts told the BBC was likely caused by several failures.
		Sanchez on Monday said 15 gigawatts of power, the equivalent of 60% of demand at that time, was suddenly lost from the system in just five seconds.
		Mr. Pareto said during a news conference on Tuesday that there were two disconnection events barely a second apart in the southwest of Spain, where there is substantial solar power generation.
		Indeed.
		Guys, as much as we may want to believe...
		That there is a big apocalyptic event.
		I know it's funny.
		Like, who would want to believe it's going to happen?
		It does sound a lot like policy failures and psychotic ideology are destroying these countries, and they don't want to admit it.
		But hold on.
		Let's read more.
		They're going to say, one issue that the Spanish grid operator may have been referring to was when power companies identify a mismatch of supply and demand for electricity that could lead to instability and disconnect temporarily in order to protect systems.
		However, Sanchez later said the power cut was not a problem of excessive renewables.
		He said there was not a failure of coverage, meaning supply, and there was a relatively low demand for electricity that was quite normal in the days running up to the crisis.
		So what happened?
		It's unclear, especially as many systems fail in electricity supply quite frequently.
		Not only renewables and outages of this scale happen.
		And, I'm sorry, not only renewables, and outages of this scale happen somewhere in the world around once a year on average.
		The mismatch between supply and demand of electricity can change the frequency of the electricity grid, which is 50 hertz in Europe and the UK.
		If that frequency changes out of a narrow range, it could lead to damage to equipment.
		When a big company detects that the frequency is moving out of their tolerance, they can go offline and protect equipment.
		Okay, fine.
		But, why?
		Why wouldn't they just say that?
		Is it because they don't want to admit it?
		They don't want to admit they've made a mistake.
		Some guy pressed the wrong button, maybe.
		Was it linked to a rare atmospheric event?
		The message in Portuguese said that due to an extreme temperature variations in the interior of Spain, there were anomalous oscillations in the very high voltage lines, a phenomenon known as induced atmospheric vibration.
		These oscillations cause synchronization failures between electrical systems, leading to successive disturbances across the interconnected European network.
		Live Science, or is it Live Science?
		I don't know.
		It's probably Live Science says, what is induced atmospheric vibration?
		And did it really cause power outages across Spain and Portugal?
		They say the exact cause of the blackout remains unclear.
		The reps of Portugal's electricity network, this is what we get.
		They said it was induced atmospheric vibrations, synchronization failures.
		The blackout that hit the entire territory of the mainland Portugal today is the result of a significant voltage fluctuation in the Spanish grid at a time when Portugal was importing energy from Spain.
		With this fluctuation, the control and protection systems of the Portuguese power plants, as expected in a situation with its configuration,
		shut down, causing the blackout.
		They're going to say if these conditions had been in place, they may have triggered abnormal oscillations in very high voltage lines.
	Although investigations are ongoing, some early media reports are mentioning a phenomenon known as induced atmospheric vibration linked to unusual atmospheric conditions
	I can already tell you what a lot of people on the left are going to say.
	They're going to say...
	Climate change.
	That proves it.
	Because anything that ever happens at any point, any time related to weather is going to be global warming.
	And then when you point out that actually it was a phenomenon of getting colder, they say we mean climate change, not global warming.
	And I say pick one.
	So long as Barack Obama is going to complain about climate change and global warming and then buy waterfront property that will be underwater in 20 some odd years, according to their arguments, I'm just not going to believe them.
	I gotta be honest.
	I'm greatly concerned about pollution.
	I don't think we should be polluting the planet.
	But there are many people who believe that what we are witnessing and experiencing in terms of atmospheric changes and climate changes, these are largely related to cycles of the earth and the sun.
	And not anything man has done.
	But hey, far be it from me to tell you exactly what.
	I don't know.
	They're gonna mention.
	Protection systems are designed to automatically disconnect affected power lines in response to such faults.
	So, It's actually quite simple.
	They're basically saying that the temperature fluctuated rapidly in Spain.
	This caused an issue with the Spanish grid operator that triggered emergency breakers, which shut the system down.
	Boring, I guess.
	The question then is, what's causing these temperature-driven power surges?
	They mentioned a 12-hour blackout across much of Italy in 2003 was triggered by an issue with a hydroelectric power line between Italy and Switzerland.
	And a 2006 temperature-driven power surge in Germany caused power cuts across France, Italy, Spain, and Belgium, and even Morocco.
	One of the largest blackouts in history occurred in India in 2012, affecting over 600 million people.
	All of Portugal and 99% of Spain now have electricity, and authorities are working to figure out the true cause of the incident to stop it from happening again.
	Now, interestingly, this story from The Guardian gains traction because just the day before this grid goes down, there was a warning about solar storms knocking out our electrical grid, resulting in when the power goes down,
	the cooling systems fail, and you get a reactor meltdown.
	Now, that's something.
	This article comes out the day before, and I'm not suggesting they knew in advance or anything I'm saying.
	We usually just call that a warning, right?
	If a bunch of experts come out, I'm not saying this is a bunch, but let's just say a bunch of scientists come out and say, hey, we're concerned that the data we show is indicative of a coming earthquake in this particular area.
	Everybody should be warned.
	And then a day later, the earthquake happens.
	It's just, that's predictive science.
	This is worrying.
	Fears of solar storms becoming more frequent, knocking out power grids, and then a day later, grid goes down due to atmospheric conditions.
	I think a rational person might say, these are connected.
	Here's a story from The Guardian.
	On 14th of May, 1921.
	A powerful solar storm called the New York Railroad Storm caused the northern lights to illuminate New York City's night sky.
	On Broadway, crowds lingered, enjoying flaring skies that remained undimmed by city lights.
	The following morning, excess electrical currents shut down the New York Central Railroad signal and switching system in Manhattan, stopping trains.
	A fire broke out in a railroad control tower that was located at Park in 57th.
	Smoke filled the air.
	Along a stretch of Park Avenue, residents were coughing and choking from the suffocating vapors which spread for blocks.
	When solar storms electrically charged particles envelop Earth, they cause geomagnetic storms that generate electric fields in the ground, inducing electric currents in power grids.
	Solar storms as intense as the 1921 Superstorm have the potential to cause a nightmare scenario in which modern power grids, communication systems, and other infrastructures collapse for months.
	Such a collapse of power grids would likely also lead to nuclear power plant accidents whose radioactive emissions would aggravate the overall catastrophe.
	Scientists estimate that solar storms powerful enough to collapse portions of modern power grids for months may hit Earth more often than once in a century.
	In July of 2012, a solar superstorm estimated to have been more intense than the New York Railroad storm.
	Crossed Earth's orbit, missing the planet by one week's time.
	The East Coast states, excuse me, Upper Midwest and Pacific Northwest have geological characteristics, not predominant in other regions of the US, that increase the vulnerability of power grid infrastructures to solar systems.
	Unfortunately, the majority of commercial nuclear power plants in the U.S. are located in the East Coast states and the upper Midwest, two of the U.S. regions that are most vulnerable to solar storm induced blackouts.
	In a months long blackout, nuclear plants would lose their supply of offsite electricity, which is necessary for their safe operation.
	Emergency diesel generators, which provide backup electricity, are designed to power cooling pumps for a number of days, not months.
	No nuclear plant in the U.S. has ever lost offside electricity for longer.
	In 2012, the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission stated that an extreme solar storm Could collapse power grids and potentially lead to reactor core damage at multiple nuclear power plants.
	Okay.
	So what's going on with this NASA story?
	Anxious about a pothole in space.
	A dent in the magnetosphere, which keeps us shielded from solar wind.
	Maybe.
	Did you guys know that Puerto Rico also had a major power outage?
	This story from the AP?
	April 21st, 2025 wasn't as big of a story.
	They say that Puerto Rico's governor on Monday urged people to moderate their energy consumption as she warned the island has no additional power generation capability to fall back on days after a massive blackout hit the U.S. territory.
	Here's what I'm getting to.
	It may actually be.
	When we see these stories about solar storms, yes, we should be concerned about solar storms.
	Yes, they are claiming atmospheric conditions did this.
	While they've ruled out cyber attack, I think one thing we can say is cyber attack threats are real.
	They're happening all the time.
	This is why we do not want to be involved in wars overseas.
	And in the event we get hit by a cyber attack on industrial control systems to cut the power, the ramifications would be the same.
	If a solar storm would knock out a power plant and cause a nuclear meltdown, Cyber attack could do the exact same thing.
	In fact, a solar storm is a once one.
	It happens, right?
	Let's say a solar storm happens.
	You get hit by it.
	Repairs begin immediately.
	Contingency efforts begin immediately.
	And we were resourceful.
	We can probably mitigate that.
	But what if it was a cyber attack that struck at our critical infrastructure?
	Let's say we actually decide to go full scale war in Ukraine with Russia.
	NATO gets involved directly.
	Russia's threatening nuclear retaliatory strikes.
	That's grandiose.
	What could they really do?
	Sustained industrial control system shutdown.
	When they shut down the grid or other industrial control systems, try as we might to mitigate it, we will be actively working against our enemies who are trying to shut it down all the same.
	So that's the point.
	If a solar storm hits, it's a one-off.
	We can fix it.
	If Russia, China, Iran, or any adversary of the US, a terror group or whatever, seeks to shut down the grid, they can actually launch a prolonged and sustained attack against our grid, making it much harder to mitigate and restore power.
	And power is just one function.
	Theoretically, they could go into any industrial control system, nuclear power plants especially, and they could directly screw up our cooling systems, causing meltdowns.
	It is pretty worrying.
	Lifestyle from, it's Marca's lifestyle section.
	The reason behind the European blackout, the power cut could be caused by a cyber attack.
	Now, I know we've already said that we don't know for sure.
	This has been the speculation.
	They reported that there is, as of yet, no official answer, but theories are beginning to emerge, including the most conspiratorial ones.
	I'm going to pause you right there.
	It ain't no conspiracy.
	That's ridiculous.
	The US and NATO countries are actively engaged in a war with Russia.
	Now, they're not boots on the ground formally, but there are veteran private volunteers from Western nations fighting in Ukraine with Western weapons and Western intelligence directed by Western special forces.
	So, yeah, Russia has a real reason to strike.
	More importantly, from DW, Dutch intelligence reports Russian cyber attack.
	The Dutch military intelligence agency has warned about growing attacks from Russia in an effort to destabilize society.
	The intelligence report also cited threats from China and its support from Moscow.
	This story dropped April 22nd, one week before.
	It had already been reported that Russia, possibly China, were engaged in attacks against us.
	Why wouldn't they be?
	We are at war.
	They want to destabilize our economies and make it difficult for us to support Ukraine.
	Personally, I think there's a risk that they've never spelled out the benefits of.
	Why is the U.S. involved in a conflict in Ukraine?
	Trump is certainly working hard to put an end to this war.
	Vladimir Putin did call for a ceasefire, but it's delayed.
	And he did, or I should say the Russians did threaten nuclear retaliation.
	What they're not saying is, behind the scenes, they're attacking us.
	Russian hackers targeted a Dutch public facility last year, the Dutch Military Intelligence Agency and Security Service, MIVD, reported on Tuesday.
	The target was the digital control system of an undisclosed Dutch public safety public facility in the first known Russian attack on the Netherlands' critical infrastructure.
	The MIVD said in its annual report.
	The report reviewed other cyber attacks against European allies of Ukraine amid the ongoing war.
	Why was the Netherlands targeted?
	Well, it's an interesting country.
	They say it's an interesting target country for Moscow due to its continued support for Ukraine.
	Last week, Dutch Defense Minister Ruben Breckelmans announced 150 million euro for Ukraine's air defense systems.
	Quote, we see the Russian threat against Europe is increasing, including after a possible end of the war against Ukraine.
	Resync said that last year's attack against the public service aimed to gain control of the system, adding that it was thwarted.
	As far as is known, this is the first time that such a sabotage attack has been carried out against such a digital control system in the Netherlands, literally targeting industrial control systems.
	This is what we're worried about.
	Let me stress it again for you guys.
	A week prior...
	We got word that there was an industrial control systems hack against the Netherlands, specifically for their support for Ukraine.
	Now the power goes out a week later.
	I think it's silly to rule out cyber attack.
	That's what they're claiming may be.
	Maybe we're dealing with space phenomenon, my friends.
	Honestly, who knows?
	I just think it's interesting timing, to say the least.
	They're going to say the agency also warned against Russian units mapping infrastructure and conducting acts of sabotage in the North Sea, which lies between the UK and continental Europe.
	Russia's sabotage activities in the bed of water targets internet cables, water and energy supplies, the Dutch agency said.
	The report also reiterated that China continues to pose a serious threat to Europe through its backing of Moscow, as well as separate cyber espionage activities.
	I think this is the real threat.
	I really do.
	You know, Russia threatening NATO with revenge nuclear strikes, that's saber rattling.
	That's meant to shock regular people who don't really pay attention to news all that much.
	It's headline grabbing.
	They threaten these things in their press because it's what people know.
	It's devastating.
	But it's not the principal means by which they're actually going to carry an attack, in my opinion.
	If Russia carries out a cyber attack in Spain, shutting down their power grid.
	Who knows?
	In fact, even if they did it, if they cover their tracks well enough, they might just say it was an oopsie-daisy.
	We don't know.
	Now, all that really matters is what do powerful people believe?
	And that's the terrifying reality that we have here.
	You see, if Russia were or were not to launch an attack, but something devastating happens, if people in power want this to be the cause, they'll do it.
	That's how false flags work.
	Let's say the West, NATO, wanted to escalate the conflict in Ukraine.
	They need only say, this was Russia.
	You can't prove us wrong.
	It's unfalsifiable.
	In which case, they can drag us into the war whenever they want.
	Interestingly, however, though, the narrative around solar storms and climate change and all of these things has been persistent.
	As I already mentioned with the story about NASA tracking this dent in the magnetosphere.
	So my friends, as we gear up to bring in Bed Davidson and go over exactly what's going on, I'm going to wrap up the intro segment for this show before we go to the interview.
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	We're going to have that interview in just a minute.
	But for now, we're going to jump to this story and intro exactly what's going on.
	From Popular Mechanics, scientists are getting kind of anxious about a pothole in space, my friends.
	This story is from March 31st, 2023.
	The Earth's magnetic field protects us and our orbiting tech from the worst effects of the sun's energetic rays.
	In a region called the South Atlantic anomaly, however, the magnetic field is significantly weaker than over the rest of the planet.
	speculation as to what may have happened with that power outage is that the grid gets knocked out when the magnetosphere weakens, allowing solar storms to blast our electrical grid.
	Or maybe it was a temperature fluctuation.
	Maybe it wasn't.
	Maybe it was a cyber attack.
	But this narrative, it's been persistent.
	Take a look at this story.
	This is from NASA.gov, August of 2020.
	NASA researchers track slowly splitting dent in Earth's magnetic field.
	We have this story from Daily Galaxy from July of last year.
	Extreme solar blasts and weak magnetic fields threaten life on Earth.
	The narrative has been persistent, and the impact of solar flares on Earth have been well known.
	You can see here where this blast of solaration can actually break through the magnetosphere.
	That's where you get the aurora borealis.
	It's pretty cool stuff.
	I saw it.
	We landed in Fairbanks, Alaska.
	Walking out of the airport, it was minus 30, and we looked up Aurora Borealis.
	Pretty cool stuff.
	But recently, and many of you may have noticed this, this was, I think, what was it, several months ago, the Aurora was visible as far south as West Virginia.
	And maybe it's nothing.
	Maybe things are getting worse.
	Popular Mechanics says Earth's magnetic field is incredibly important to life on our planet.
	By allowing for compass navigation and displaying the aurora borealis way up north, it's responsible for shielding us from the worst effects of the sun's rays.
	A little bit of sun.
	We need.
	A lot would have some serious negative impacts.
	Thankfully, we do have a magnetic field.
	However, there's a pothole called the South Atlantic Anomaly.
	It's not a physical dent.
	It's a region in the skies between South America and Africa where our magnetic field is weaker than it is around the rest of the planet.
	This weakness isn't life threatening.
	It would have to be way more significant, but it is an issue for the craft we've launched into orbit.
	Objects like satellites and other spacecraft reside within our magnetic fields as they orbit Earth.
	The immediate concern right now is that this anomaly is going to damage our technology.
	However, we recently spoke with Ben Davidson, who talked to us about the potential for a Polar shift.
	The planet's poles shifting, the Earth tilting down, and this does happen.
	This is not conspiracy.
	This is true.
	This is a fact.
	We had him on the show, and I will say, it may be a bit alarming and a bit sensational.
	The scary thing about it is that it sounds world-ending.
	It seems to a lot of people...
	Too crazy to believe because we have an optimism bias and we don't want to believe that these cataclysmic events could actually happen.
	But there are some interesting anomalies, such as there are glaciers in Indonesia.
	I didn't know this.
	Yeah, it's warm.
	It's tropical.
	And there are mountaintop glaciers indicating that at some point water froze in large quantities and then somehow moved into an area that is pretty warm.
	But here's what we're going to do.
	Instead of me prattling on about it, we're going to bring in Ben Davidson and get him to talk to us exactly about what is going on.
	We've got him standing by.
	Let's get that camera rolling and then bring him in right now.
	Let's see if I can get this right.
	Ben, can you hear me?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		I can, Tim.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Good to see you again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Likewise.
		Thanks for joining me.
		This is really interesting.
		A couple of stories that I find really interesting, in fact, that I've been going over.
		The first is, the day before this power outage, the Guardian wrote an op-ed saying solar storms could lead to nuclear disasters.
		Then we get, a day later, this massive power outage in Europe that they're saying is due to an atmospheric phenomenon.
		I'm wondering if you want to break down for us what you think happened here, and then we'll just figure out where to go from there.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Well, the official explanation that they're giving is about 80% correct.
		Their official explanation is that extreme temperatures caused an atmospheric oscillation, which resulted in a desyncing and induction event into the high-voltage lines.
		Things weren't matching up, and basically the entire system had a cascading failure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, real quick.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Now, most of that is correct.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So wait, all of this sounds like very technical jargon to us.
		Like, what's the layman's terms?
		Like, the temperature caused the electricity, vibrations?
		What is this?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Essentially, there is some pretty high-level physics involved with the atmospheric oscillation thing.
		But essentially, what they're saying is extreme temperatures caused this electric surge to go through and shock the system and basically break it.
		That would be the simplest version.
		Now, that is what happened in terms of the breakage, but there was no extreme heat.
		It would take such extreme heat to do that that you don't find that anywhere on Earth.
		Not to mention the fact that temperatures in the area yesterday were about a half a degree above normal.
		And normal for the end of April in the Iberian Peninsula of Europe is just not that hot.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it was reported at like 70 degrees.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		It was not too hot.
		It was complete nonsense.
		Now, there are two things that are really interesting.
		One, they were noticing a surge in the solar power output.
		Basically, the solar panels, for some reason that they can't understand or explain, surged power through the system.
		Now, while this was happening, I was taking a look at the data About the ionosphere, which is the electric layer up at the top of the atmosphere, it got hit.
		It took a major hit.
		And then you could see this energy coming down through the atmosphere, through what we call the global atmospheric electric circuit, where not only can you see it vertically moving up and down, but you can use the ground-level winds to see where it's going to go.
		it follows the water vapor in the atmosphere, in the wind, water, electricity.
		They kind of like each other.
		And so you could see it coming down.
		And then that electricity surge go right into Portugal, Spain and France at the
		exact same time as the blackout.
		Now, here's the interesting thing.
		They have a pretty good idea about what that was, but the fact that they also saw the solar panels inexplicably surge their output at the exact same time is the definitive clue.
		I don't know if you ever watched the movie The Core about Earth's magnetic field failing.
		So they go full Hollywood sci-fi idiot realm about 25 minutes in.
		But the opening scenes...
		Those are accurate.
		A weak spot in Earth's magnetic field, you know, it's not all of a sudden the whole globe collapses.
		It starts with a weak spot here or a weak spot here.
		And then there's a plasma breakthrough, which also allows extra ultraviolet to break through due to a temporary depression of the ozone in that layer.
		At the same time, as this plasma breaking through, and I watched it do that, I watched it come down through the atmosphere, they were also noticing an ultraviolet surge in the solar panel production.
		So that's both things you expect.
		The particles, the plasma coming in, the electrically charged material, and the light, the ultraviolet light coming through the same hole.
		It was that exact same thing from the movie, although the movie, You know, the movie made it seem like it was extreme enough to burn people's skin.
		Welcome to Hollywood.
		Essentially, what we have is, I mean, I've been on your shows twice already talking about the fact that we're in a magnetic pole shift, that things are getting a little scary and they're accelerating faster and faster.
		This was one of the things I really started to expect to see in the 2030s.
		We're a little early on that, and I have to admit to my viewers, I can't really account for how quickly these things have been happening since about March of 2023.
		Our timeline was pretty solid with what we were expecting, but in about the last two years and change...
		Things have just been going way too quickly.
		The Earth is taking way too big of hits from basically anything the Sun throws at us.
		And then two days ago, the Sun didn't even throw anything at us.
		This was just a hole in Earth's magnetic field, a weak spot.
		The plasma broke through.
		The ultraviolet broke through the depressed ozone at that time.
		I don't know whether it was the extra ultraviolet surging through the solar panels or, more likely in my head, the plasma actually coming down and integrating directly into the system, which is the electric shock that some of the experts are talking about that hit the one system and basically caused a violent fluctuation that collapsed the system over those three countries.
		Or it's both of them combined.
		Either one of them could do it, but their cause is really the story here, why it happened.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is there any possibility?
		I don't know what the official explanation Puerto Rico has given for their power outage last week.
		Is there any relation to that?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		So that happened less than 60 seconds after the solar storm began that day.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		That one was solar-driven.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Really?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		And it was very clear.
		The solar storm began and Puerto Rico went black.
		It was literally boom, boom, one-two punch.
		As fast as when you punch someone, how fast they hit the ground.
		That's how fast it was.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So have they given an official explanation for why the power went out?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have they said it was a solar storm or something?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		They have noted that there was a solar storm at the same time.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		They have not officially declared anything for the Puerto Rico event.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what's really crazy about all this?
		The reason why I'm excited to have you on is, I mean, you were here not even that long ago.
		I think it was either the culture war or IRL talking to us about how we are going to see the magnetosphere weaken.
		We're going to see power outages.
		And so when this power goes out, exactly as you described, Either you're extremely lucky with your crackpottery or you're correct.
		So I don't know what to expect from here, though.
		Some people still want to believe it's a cyberattack.
		I think people are going to put their worldview on this.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, definitely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, look, I certainly entertain the possibilities of cyberattack in all things, especially because we actually have the data that we're constantly under cyberattack.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		However, I don't want to rule out sitting down with a guy who told me this would happen and then it happens and then act like you didn't predict something.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		So for example, we can look at some of the evidence.
		If you find a dead guy and there's a bullet hole in his forehead, you can probably rule out heart attack or diabetes kind of thing.
		We know exactly what caused this blackout in Europe.
		There was an electric shock to the system that caused violent fluctuations way more than what the AC system is supposed to be handling.
		Basically, the wrong Hertz oscillation.
		And that's not what would happen if, say, the elites just cut off the power.
		That's not what would happen if it was hacked.
		That could be what happened during a solar storm as well, but that's because a solar storm is going to do the exact same thing that a plasma penetration through a weak hole in Earth's magnetic field is going to do.
		There have been tons of these outages before.
		Like, I don't know if you recall, there were a couple of them last year and the year before.
		And I was always really hesitant to call them out because I didn't have all of the data.
		But they have now released all the data out of Europe from two days ago.
		It's very clear what happened and that it was a sink issue.
		And so either all of that other atmospheric data and the solar panel data.
		Is telling us that this was Earth's magnetic pole shift, you know, hinting at the world, hey, I'm coming, I'm coming.
		Or at the exact perfect moment, some idiot at the control board hit the wrong button.
		Maybe.
		It's possible.
		It's possible, but...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's hard for people to believe that there's going to be such a cataclysmic event.
		But let's break this down.
		If this is a sign of a pole shift...
		What's causing it, in your view, and what does that mean next?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		So that could get pretty complex.
		But essentially, this is a cycle on Earth.
		Earth's magnetic field spends several thousand years pretty normal, like we have now, easily protecting us from the sun and cosmic rays, all the scary stuff out in space.
		But then every few thousand years, it just decides it's going to glitch out, and it goes through a pole shift, and it gets very weak, and that space energy comes in and basically starts attacking the atmosphere.
		In civilizations past, it was mostly a radiation and climatological issue.
		It affects the ozone, as I mentioned.
		It affects water vapor in the clouds, so it affects clouds, rain, storms, wind, things like that.
		Not to mention the extra ultraviolet, which we already mentioned, and those particles themselves aren't exactly good if they hit your DNA or they start messing with your electrolytes in your body.
		There's a reason we call them that.
		Electromagnetic radiation we're talking about.
		But now we also have an electro-dependent society.
		People think, oh, you just turn the faucet and water magically comes out.
		Well, it's not magic.
		There's a whole bunch of stuff that goes on with that.
		They think that, oh, food just shows up in the grocery store.
		I don't think they realize how much transportation and refrigeration and logistics go into something like that.
		Or the heating or air conditioning in their house, the internet, 911.
		Banking, gas stations, all transactions that aren't cash.
		It all stops.
		It all stops.
		And when the government did this study on what's going to happen when the sun takes out power, and it could be applied to Earth's magnetic pole shift taking out power, 90 to 95% of our species is gone in six months.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was an article that I mentioned a little bit previously.
		The Guardian wrote this.
		It was published in the morning of the 28th that a solar storm could cause nuclear disasters on the East Coast.
		If it knocks out power on the East Coast for about a month or longer, then the emergency reserves shut down, the cooling systems shut down, and then you get a runaway reaction meltdowns at all of these reactors.
		It's fascinating to me that they're publishing that story and then we literally get these power outages.
		I don't know.
		You know, the way I describe it is if experts are saying it might be a long shot, but these things are possible and they might happen, and then you get the power outage fear due to what they're calling induced atmospheric vibration.
		I believe that was the phrase, right?
		Then part of me just says maybe they're right and there is this risk of these extreme weather phenomenon.
		Now, I do think we'll probably hear from a lot of liberals that it's climate change or something like that.
		They'll try to shift it into a political argument they can capitalize on.
		But I suppose they do.
		What's the timeline?
		I mean, you said this happened faster than you thought it was going to happen.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So the math that I've been using, I mean, based on tracking where the magnetic field strength is, suggested that we should be having the main event of the magnetic pole shift in the late 2040s.
		That's a little confusing because as our magnetic field weakens, we become more and more vulnerable to things like that plasma breakthrough two days ago or anything that the sun throws at us.
		You know, the sun could throw a little love tap at us, and it's like a haymaker from Mike Tyson when it hits because our shield isn't what it's supposed to be.
		I don't know if we are going to wait until the 2040s or if next week the sun is going to take out power to the world and we have to live like cavemen for 20 years until the pole shift.
		There's a lot of unknowns here, but this is kind of a process of we don't know when we're getting to the finish line, but there's guardrails.
		There's no way off this road.
		It is all downhill and our brakes don't work.
		We're getting to the finish line.
		This is going to happen.
		We're perfectly due in time.
		It happens about every 6,000 years to some extent.
		It's 6,000 years from the last one.
		What's happening?
		Oh, the magnetic field is shifting again.
		This is exactly what's happening.
		We're starting to see all of the effects that we'd expect to see.
		If it wasn't so damn terrifying, I would be patting myself on the back right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you know that the government's been expanding Raven Rock and Mount Weather?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		They're doing a lot of stuff right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, for people who don't know, these aren't the only emergency bunkers that they have.
		But a couple years ago, I think Congress passed a budget for the expansion of Mount Weather and Raven Rock.
		Fans of the Fallout series know exactly what this is.
		It's where government officials and powerful individuals expect to go in the event of some kind of catastrophe.
		And so the question we were asking is, like, what catastrophe are they preparing for?
		Or are they just spending money as they do?
		There was also a report that Zuckerberg built an underground bunker.
		That was definitely overhyped.
		It certainly is.
		It's an underground space.
		It's secure, but it's not really that big.
		They were trying to make it sound like he went to some faraway island to build a facility.
		He bought a big house on a Hawaiian island and gave himself an emergency room or whatever.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Essentially, somebody doesn't like some of the new money guys because they didn't tell him all the information.
		What a terrible place to build your bunker.
		It's almost like...
		It's almost like their opinion on people like Mark Zuckerberg is that they're, you know, he's a mushroom.
		Well, so- Feed him crap, keep him in the dark.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		But, you know, take a look at what Jeff Bezos is doing.
		He's hollowing out that mountain across the street from the Blue Origin launch facility.
		Yeah.
		Richard Branson's $45 million bunker is right under the control tower for Virgin Galactic.
		And SpaceX and the Boring Company are Elons.
		All the billionaires are planning, hey, we might need to go up.
		We might need to go down.
		Let's put them in the exact same place so we can decide at a moment's notice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is kind of funny that you got two billionaires that are basically like, we need to get to space now.
		Let me start here.
		These stories have been around for like a decade, actually.
		In New Zealand, they're building mountainside bunkers.
		In that movie, Kingsman, they land a plane in the side of a mountain.
		That's not science fiction.
		They're building that.
		They're building landing strips in mountains.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you think this is the reason?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, you probably do, right?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Definitely.
		Definitely.
		They've known this was coming since the 1940s when they classified Project Nanook.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What is that?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		So they sent Major Maynard White up to the Canadian Arctic to sort of set up shop.
		They were worried Russia was going to come over the top.
		But what they were doing, because obviously you have to figure out how to navigate, and so they needed to understand how to do that so close to the magnetic pole.
		A layer of polar fossils, then tropical fossils, then polar fossils, then tropical fossils, indicating that it's not just a magnetic shift.
		The world is going to turn over and send the oceans into the land.
		This is why the mammoths were found like they were found.
		They dug them out of 30 feet of ice and said, oh, they froze instantly.
		Here's the problem.
		They froze in the glacial cycle.
		It was 20 degrees colder.
		If there's 30 feet of ice there now, there wasn't anything to eat back then.
		What were they doing there?
		And the answer is they weren't there.
		They were somewhere near the equator.
		And then they got put at the poles when the earth tilted and froze instantly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So is this going to cause a flood?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Oh my goodness, yes.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Oh my goodness, yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I wonder if that's what, you know, I heard this, I don't know if it's true, but every civilization has some kind of flood myth?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		They do.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever seen the future U.S. Navy map of the United States or any of the remote-viewed future maps of the United States where it shows water basically connecting the Gulf of America to the Great Lakes, and some of them show it going all the way up to Hudson Bay?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I haven't.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Look up future U.S. Navy map of the United States, and there's water going from the Gulf of America all the way up to the Great Lakes.
		And that's what's going to happen.
		The way the world is going to turn this time, and we can tell the way it's going to turn, the Gulf of America is going to shoot northward, and basically, at that time, the New Madrid Fault is going to be shaking like crazy, causing liquefaction.
		Isostatic adjustment from the water weight is going to push down the center of the United States.
		The lack of water in the Gulf of Mexico is going to cause that land to lift up, and the water is not going to be able to come back.
		It's just going to sit there in the center of the United States and cut our country in half.
		I feel really bad for everybody who's going to the Ozarks to survive.
		That's going to be underwater.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, we're okay in West Virginia, I think.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I looked at that map, and we seem to be all right.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the water's not going to hit West Virginia, although I have to say, the initial wave might hit you guys pretty hard.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		It depends on what your elevation is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So where do you got to be?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		I prefer a mile up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, like, you can't be in Colorado.
		I think this map...
		Yeah, Colorado's got like 20%.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Colorado.
		I like Colorado.
		I like the mountains of Mongolia.
unidentified		Wow.
unidentified		There are...
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		A couple of places in Peru, I think, look pretty good.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Some of those ones in Mongolia, technically, they stretch down into China as well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What about Nebraska?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Very few good places in Europe.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Very few.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What is this map?
		This is interesting.
		I Google searched what you said, and the map of future America, there's posts all over the place about this.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Where did this come from?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Digital Public Library of America?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		This is a fun one to go down.
		It's a fun rabbit hole to go down.
		But essentially, something like this is going to happen.
		And it's not just the United States.
		Giant waves are going to take out most of China, India, Europe.
		All but the central region of the central high regions of Africa near the rift, like some of those volcanoes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But this was, as you mentioned, it's like future sight.
		There was a psychic person saying they saw this.
		I mean...
unidentified		Right.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe in that stuff, but it's interesting that this is what's probably going to happen, and none of the other stuff I said is based on remote viewing or psychics or stuff.
		I just...
		I happened to know about this map, and then it was like, oh, wait a minute.
		I've seen this before.
		And so I was like, wait a minute.
		That's exactly what that remote viewer said was going to happen.
		And so that's kind of an interesting and fun little coincidence.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we talked about this.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		It matches up with that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we did talk about this last time, but you said the Earth's going to tilt.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it's like a 90-degree tilt?
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that means that, what, like the North and the South Poles become the equator?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And, oh, he's got a globe.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Take Greenland there and just put it at the equator such that up here at the top is India and at the bottom is South America.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		If you get basically that, that's what the world's going to look like.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what does that mean for the United States?
		We're Southern Hemisphere now?
		I mean, do we...
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		We're Southern Hemisphere, places like Colorado, Pennsylvania, about the same latitude just in the South.
		Canada and Mexico swap climates.
		Montana and Texas swap climates.
		Maine and Florida swap climates.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What's the timeline for this?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I know you mentioned we start seeing stuff in the 2040s.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		That should be happening in the 2040s at some point.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		But does this— Obviously, we could get thrown back into caveman status before that, so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
		That's what you were saying, that before that even happens, our grid's going to go down.
		Was it plasma?
		Is it going to fry our electronics?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's almost certainly going to happen before that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, I got to tell you, we talk about the prospect of civil war and civil conflict, and eight years ago...
		It's in the mainstream media.
		I'm talking about it.
		And people are just mocking the idea.
		Oh, you're crazy, Tim.
		You shouldn't even bring this up.
		Now we've got prominent liberals saying, I think we're going to go into a civil war because of the political landscape.
		It's interesting to see that this phenomenon was doubted in the United States.
		The fact that there could be powerful political interests at odds with each other.
		Nobody believed it.
		Some people are finally coming around.
		The reason I mention this is that.
		Political squabbles are facts of life that happen all the time.
		Countries all the time go through this stuff.
		And people still couldn't believe it.
		And so my concern, there's two things.
		One, I definitely don't want to overhype that the world's going to end or it's going to flip over, everyone's going to die.
		And so there is a natural bias to be like, come on, man, that can't really happen.
		That's insane.
		But then there's the also...
		Don't be stupid in thinking you know exactly what can or can't happen if you've not researched it.
		So I think the challenge is going to be for a lot of people.
		They hear what you're saying and they think, this is crack pottery.
		This is nuts.
		It's not going to happen.
		Powers sometimes go out.
		Why should I believe any of this?
		My fear then is, regardless, whether it's political or scientific, people don't prepare.
		They kind of just coast.
		You know?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I suppose with just that being said...
		What should a sane, rational person do not wanting to be the guy storing 30 years worth of beans in his basement, but also concerned about the power going out or even or in politics?
		Like, what would you do?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Start paying attention to more stuff like this.
		And when my documentary on this exact thing comes out and I've got people from NASA and professors who are finally willing to get some balls.
		And actually talk to the camera, which they've already done.
		We've got the interviews.
		Things are about to change because they have been too afraid to talk about this.
		Okay, they'll publish a paper in a journal and then not talk about it.
		They'll make some commentary or they'll take these observations and they'll put them in data sets and then not talk about it.
		They're going to talk about it now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what I think the issue is?
		For everything.
		The economy is delicate.
		Let's say we want to build a spaceship.
		So people may be wondering, if this was true, they'd be talking about it, right?
		No, I disagree.
		I'll tell you why.
		Elon Musk wants to build spaceships.
		Jeff Bezos wants to build spaceships.
		They also want to build underground bunkers.
		If the economy shuts down, that won't happen.
		If you were to come out right now, if a politician, if Trump went on TV and said, look, we're dealing with a cataclysmic event, be with your loved ones for now and start focusing on survival...
		The people who build these specific specialties, their focus is gone.
		Elon's going to say, I need a guy to work a control center for a spaceship.
		And the idea is we're advancing human life.
		But what if you go to that control guy and tell him, you've got five years to prepare for a cataclysm.
		He's going to be like, I better start building a bunker now to protect myself and my family.
		I recently talked with Secretary of Transport Sean Duffy.
		About UAPs, UFOs, and just general transport stuff, planes.
		And one of the things he mentioned was if we actually knew what these things were, people would, and we told people, they would freak out.
		So do you really want to know?
		You know, most people respond with, yeah, I do want to know.
		But if you're trying to build a spaceship, you don't want anyone to know.
		You want everyone to keep their blinders on, build the components, and build the spaceship, build the ark, whatever it may be, so that people can escape.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		It's not just that, but what trucker is driving food all the way across the country with that awareness in his head?
		What cop is responding to a potential shooting in that circumstance?
		Who's going to work at all the very next day, once the world knows that?
		They'll destroy everything that you'd want to save in the first place, if they told us the truth.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That fake nuclear strike alert hit Hawaii?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I remember that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, the stories, a lot of people don't talk about it, but some stories came out about what people did when they got those notifications.
		And let's just say those people were very embarrassed.
		But look, everybody's phoned off saying, nuclear strike imminent, seek shelter now.
		And then...
		Oopsie, it was an accident.
		Someone pressed the wrong button.
		But the reaction people had to just that.
		Not so family-friendly, but you can understand what some of these stories might be.
		And they immediately regretted.
		Oops.
		We thought we were going to die, so we just, you know, did things that we normally would not do.
		But I do appreciate you joining to talk about all this.
		Is there any final thoughts you want to add before we wrap up?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		No, this is going to be happening more and more, and it's going to get much, much worse.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, Ben, where can people find you?
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Space Weather News, YouTube channel.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Much appreciated.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, thanks for hanging out, and we'll see you next time.
ben davidson ▲ ● ▼		Good to see you, Tim.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
		All right, everybody.
		We will grab your chats as we wrap things up.
		Glad to talk to Ben.
		Always interesting and kind of scary.
		We got time for just a couple more chats before we send you on to hang out with Russell Brand.
		Andrew says, Interesting.
		Fluffy Woon says, You know, it's hard to think otherwise,
		to be completely honest.
		I do think it was interesting what Ben was saying about this plasma.
		coming through and that it wasn't even a solar storm.
		That this is literally the normal solar phenomenon that we see, but with the magnetosphere
		I gotta be honest.
		I think it makes more sense.
		What they've given us with this induced atmospheric vibration story is the official narrative.
		But the question is, what caused that?
		This rare phenomenon?
		Why did that happen?
		Maybe it's anomalous.
		Maybe sometimes it happens.
		Honestly, I don't know.
		I do think that when you start looking into the data that Ben has brought up, it's pretty dang compelling.
		The mammoths thing he's brought up, I read that before he even told me about it.
		Woolly mammoths had undigested plant matter in their bellies.
		He told me about the glaciers in Indonesia.
		I didn't believe him.
		I was like, what?
unidentified		How?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's warm.
		Nope.
		You look, they're there in the mountains.
		It's cold higher up in elevation.
		So the argument is...
		At some point, where Indonesia is now, was in a colder position, and then the polls flipped.
		We'll see, my friends.
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