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Infowars Reporter MURDERED Was On Ukrainian "Hit List," Attacks On Tesla Spark CIVIL WAR Fears
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We have a tragic story from the past weekend about an InfoWars reporter, Jamie White, who was brutally murdered.
And we don't know exactly what happened, and I believe the official statement from police is they haven't identified the victim reported, though InfoWars has stated that this was one of their reporters.
He apparently was working late, was on his way home, and was found.
I believe the story is that he was shot.
Now, again, we don't know why Alex Jones has made inferences to the Soros DA and how this the narrative around that is basically these criminals are being allowed to run free and violent crime is on the rise.
However.
A new component of the story is the surfacing of a tweet from the reporter in question where he appears to be on what's called the Ukrainian hit list.
While the corporate press has largely said it's not a hit list, it's just a list of enemies of the country of Ukraine.
I'm pretty sure I'm on it as well.
And so people have been speculating.
Could this have been something a bit more than just a robbery gone wrong?
Well.
Guys, I'm going to start off right away by saying I always try to keep a cool head about things.
I'm not going to come out and scream that it's political.
We don't know.
And I think if it was or there's any inclination, then Alex Jones would have leaned into that.
He would have absolutely.
I mean, this is Alex Jones we're talking about.
If they were working on something big, he'd say they're coming after us.
We're working on something big.
So I think this may have just been a senseless killing.
That being said, we are, of course, looking at a dramatic escalation of conflict.
In this country and violence.
And now, as of course I have put in the title and thumbnail, excuse me, Civil War.
It's not just me.
It's never been just me, honestly.
We have Ray Dalio.
Did an interview with Tucker Carlson about the civil war that we are in, some kind.
He even published an op-ed, I believe with Time Magazine, about how we are in some new form of civil war.
I don't think it's new.
I think anybody who's looked at history knows that we are just in the escalating period of civil strife, and it's following your typical track for any historical civil war.
Now, in the United States, our civil war, of course, was a war between states, which is kind of weird because it's more like a world war than a civil war.
I mean, states were largely sovereign.
There was a loose federal government.
And after the Civil War in the United States, we had a solid, strong federal government.
That is, it was state against state.
And largely, the South was trying to just leave the Union.
It wasn't internal governments fighting amongst each other.
It wasn't a battle for control of one government or one culture.
It was a secessionist movement.
So, in that, the American Civil War is unique.
That being said, we had the period of bleeding Kansas.
This was seven years before the Civil War in the United States that ultimately led to the Civil War.
This was in the territory of Kansas as battles raged on as to whether or not the state would be a free state or a slave state.
And what did you have?
Roving bands of zealots murdering each other.
John Brown famously with his children and his ragtag band going around killing slave owners.
There was an escalating degree of violence.
Now, I don't know that we're there yet.
Interestingly, I think people have put the estimate at this year, political deaths around 20 or 30. So these are these are instances where someone was murdered specifically for political reasons.
And while we're looking at this story of an Infowars reporter again, which may be, you know, we'll put it this way.
It's probably I think Occam's razor suggests he lived in a city that's got high crime.
Look, it's Austin.
Probably was a robbery gone wrong.
Now, some people don't believe in coincidences.
Considering the guy was on the Ukrainian hit list, who knows?
And maybe we'll never know.
But let me just say this.
If the bare minimum we're facing is anarcho-tyranny, this is still a civil strife precursor to an escalating civil war.
I am not suggesting that I know for sure or the probability is greater than 50% that a civil war would actually happen.
But based on what we're seeing from Trump, his march to the sea against the deep state, the reaction from the left, the threats and the attempts on Trump's life, as well as Elon Musk.
And now the I got to tell you, the shooting up of Tesla vehicles is the crazy thing.
That's right.
They've been trying to firebomb Tesla dealerships and shoot them up.
And there are Tesla owners who say their cars were actually shot up and they're scared to drive these vehicles now.
I mean, what do you call this period we are in?
I'm not making a suggestion.
I'm literally asking you to come and tell me what you think.
Say, Tim, nothing is happening.
This is normal, and we're just paying attention to it.
I don't think so.
I think there's a reason why academics and billionaires and everybody else seems to be getting ready for something.
Look at all these millionaires and billionaires building their island bunkers.
Zuckerberg famously bought an island out in Hawaii, and he's building a massive house with his own private Wagyu beef.
And it's got an underground bunker in it.
Now, of course, the media reported his $200 million underground bunker.
That's not true.
He built a house.
It has a small underground bunker space.
But interesting anyway.
What do you need that underground bunker for, Mark?
Maybe he's just rich, so why the heck not?
But over the past decade...
Millionaires and billionaires.
And we're not talking about the itty-bitty millionaires.
We're talking about the 900 million millionaires, right?
They have been building mountain bunkers and bases.
One of the most popular locations has been New Zealand.
So what do they see?
You know, it could be as simple as rich people ain't got nothing else to spend money on, so why not have an emergency bunker where you can land a plane in a mountain or something?
Perhaps.
But now with the violence, the escalation, The threats of further escalation, the murdering of an Infowars reporter, the targeting of Alex Jones.
You've got political lawfare.
You've got an attempt to put the frontrunner for the presidency in 24 in prison, now the sitting president.
They are still making death threats against Elon Musk.
They are trying to destroy his company.
They're trying to bomb.
They're literally planting incendiary devices at Tesla dealerships.
Things are getting pretty wild out there, my friends.
But let me slow down and let's actually jump into all the news.
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From Post Millennial, InfoWars reporter Jamie White was brutally murdered outside his apartment on Sunday night.
White was pronounced dead in the hospital.
The investigation remains ongoing, and authorities have yet to release further details.
Now, I'll try to be, you know, as respectful as I can, but I believe the story was that there was a pool of blood and that he was shot.
The Post Millennial reports, Infowars reporter Jamie White was found unresponsive late Sunday night, and what authorities are investigating is a murder.
He was pronounced dead after being taken to a local hospital.
Austin Police Department officers responded to a high-priority emergency call at approximately 11.57 p.m.
in the 2300 block of Douglas Street.
Officers arrived about two minutes later and found White a male victim with obvious signs of trauma.
The investigation is ongoing, and authorities have not yet confirmed the nature of White's injuries or released information about potential suspects.
This marks Austin's eighth homicide of the year.
Ratliff said this is pretty early on in the investigation.
And the homicide unit will be releasing more information as they're able.
Now, Alex Jones, we did talk about this yesterday, said this is, let me pull up the tweet from him, actually.
He likens this more to the Soros DA Jose Garza, saying he was murdered due in part to the policies of the Soros, Austin, Texas, DA Jose Garza.
We pledge that Jamie's tragic death will not be in vain and those responsible for the senseless violence will be brought to justice.
Jamie's important work will be carried on through Infowars, our readers and cherished listeners.
Now, Post Millennial highlights this from Lord Bebo.
All right, Lord Bebo.
He says, Then goes on to quote Alex Jones with a screenshot from Jamie White, who says, I'm on the Ukrainian enemies list due to my work at Infowars and with real Alex Jones on the Ukraine proxy war.
The group who compiled this list is tied to the U.S. State Department, USAID, CIA and George Soros.
I don't know if that's true, but the list does exist as a website where you can search for names and it compiles statements.
And videos where it says you are basically an enemy of Ukraine.
Now, I don't know if this guy's murder is related to that.
And I'm going to just default with probably not.
Guys, as much as it is terrible, it may really just be he was walking home and some guy said, give me everything you got.
And he said no.
And the guy went bang, bang.
But, you know, there's a lot of people out there don't believe in coincidences.
Don't believe in coincidences.
No idea.
The Post Plano goes on to say, White, who was working late at the Infowars studio Sunday night, was found at his home just a few miles from the studio.
Jamie loved to fight tyranny, loved to fight freedom, said Jones.
White was pronounced dead in the hospital.
Quote, When you see the Soros DAs in control of over 800 jurisdictions protecting serious narcotic and human trafficking rings, and you see different feds in ICE calling in warnings for the most violent gangs in the world that there are ICE raids coming.
Pam Bondi saying they're preparing to indict some of these people that there are so many communist traitors in government that they're doing polygraphs.
This is a crisis.
Defunding the police, all of this has been to destabilize society.
Jones also highlighted how Austin police force had been defunded and how the Austin mayor lied about this.
He did a press conference bragging.
This is Jose Garza, literally in a Zoom meeting, calls other city employees' comrades.
So just look at this guy.
He's doing exactly what he was put in by Soros to do.
I lay all of this square at the feet of these DAs and the Soros crime syndicate, Jones continued, also pinning it on the Democratic Party.
They're the ones who administratively cut the police, prosecute the police, and even cases that are 100% clear to me waffle legal activities.
And then you wonder why we can't get enough police and there's giant shortages and you wonder why the quality goes down.
Despite Austin being a war zone at night in many areas, The police were there in two minutes and got in the hospital in just 15 or 20. He was announced dead there.
That's service.
You can't do your job when you don't have enough people.
Now, I got to wonder, is the intention of the anarcho-tyranny to butter up and gut this country so that in the event of escalation of conflict, there's nothing to stop it?
Or another way to put it, I suppose, is so that conflict escalates and you can't stop it.
What happens when you have roving bands of violent criminals being released every single day?
Anarcho-tyranny, I suppose, is the lightest way to put it.
So we have this story from The Independent, which adds a little bit more details to the story.
Alex Jones says InfoWars reporter Jamie White was fatally shot.
Police have not yet confirmed the identity of the victim who was found fatally shot.
Alex Jones has reported that a journalist for his website has been killed.
So, we did read all this.
I think the update here is simply that Jamie was shot and killed.
And many people were saying that he was bleeding out or something.
In fact, it's a tragic story.
Is this...
I ask you guys now to comment, for those that are watching, or, you know, if you're watching live or otherwise, let me know what you think.
If this is just a random act of violence, or if this was intentional.
I don't know.
Look, you know, they've been going after Alex Jones for a long time.
And could this be a message?
Could it be an attack of opportunity?
I don't know, man.
I keep saying that because part of me just says, how could a reporter for Infowars leaving the studio have this happen to them?
And part of me wants to say, look, man, it's probably a robbery gone wrong, but I don't know.
You know, one story I do have pulled up.
Let me see if I can.
I'll grab this one.
Amaranth reveals husband for the first time to explain what happened when armed thieves attacked her.
So I believe this was in Dallas.
Actually, I'm not entirely sure.
I think they're in Dallas.
And for those that don't know, this is an e-girl, streamer, OnlyFans, whatever.
And three guys broke into her house trying to steal her crypto.
Story's actually really crazy.
And the reason I'm highlighting this is because it happened recently.
And I want to make sure I'm being reasonable, right?
This is indicative of crime happens.
And with these DAs, with the expansion of crime, you're going to get criminal action.
So maybe...
You know, Jamie was just, someone was trying to mug him.
Kind of hard to believe.
Now, this story is pretty nuts.
I'll give you the quick version because I don't really care to rehash it.
But Amaranth says that she heard banging on her door.
Her husband was in a different building.
She called him and said, is that you?
And he said, no.
And she was on the phone with him when the door got bashed in and three guys came in demanding she turn over her crypto.
The phone is on and her husband can hear what's happening.
It's crazy.
So she says she gets an idea.
She has to go to the other room to get access to the crypto.
So they make her run.
She runs to the building where her husband is because they have more than one building on the property.
She says she immediately hugs the wall and her husband just pulls out.
He had a gun ready and just fired, shooting the intruders, at least one of them, and they fled.
I'm going to move on from this story.
I'm only highlighting it because it is fair, in my opinion, and to make sure we're simply pointing out crime happens.
High-profile crime happens.
Celebrities' personalities get targeted, too.
And maybe this is just...
That's all it was.
But let's jump to these next stories.
Because this is where I start to say, man, I don't know.
I don't know if I believe it.
Take a look at this from Como News.
Fire burns four Tesla Cybertrucks in Seattle's Sodo neighborhood.
That's right.
The terror attacks against Tesla owners.
This is crazy.
Four Tesla Cybertrucks were damaged or destroyed in a fire at a lot in Seattle's Soto neighborhood late Sunday night, raising questions about possible arson and the motive behind it.
So, the same weekend we see an Infowars reporter killed, we get targeted attacks on Tesla vehicles.
There's a lot more to this, too.
Listen to this.
The Seattle Fire Department has not yet said whether foul play was suspected as cause of the fire, which is under investigation.
Seattle police and the ATF are also investigating the fire.
I think it's silly to assume it was an accident.
I don't think cyber trucks just burst into flames.
Photos and video from a Seattle Department of Transportation traffic camera shows the moment the trucks went up in flames shortly after 11 p.m.
Quote, That's when I saw some flickering.
We came a little closer and I got maybe halfway here from where I was at and boom!
Big explosions.
Tall flames.
Jay Fleming, who was out walking his dog when he saw the fire, said, One of these trucks just lit up by itself.
So I called it in.
Well then, maybe.
Or maybe someone planted a device that would ignite after they were able to escape.
This is the crazy thing.
Again, make your assumptions.
Did four cyber trucks spontaneously combust due to some kind of mechanical failure of these vehicles?
Sure would like to know because I got one of those and I don't want to be sitting in if it goes up in flames.
Or...
And this is much less likely in my opinion.
Have we entered into a degree of sophistication in the targeted terror attacks that they're using remote detonation incendiary devices?
To be honest, remote detonation incendiary devices is not the most complicated thing for these psychopath terrorists.
Fleming told Como News he did not see anyone else around.
He called 911. At first it was flickering and then there was an explosion.
The flames came up about 8 to 10 feet.
And it's pretty bright.
The lithium batteries themselves went up one after another, popping, and it's hard to put them out.
The trucks were parked in a fenced lot near Second Avenue and Spokane Street with at least 50 other electric vehicles, which are held until they're ready to be dropped off at a dealership or picked up by a buyer.
So I don't know if we have some videos.
We have video of the aftermath.
You can see just torched Cybertrucks.
ATF also on scene.
I don't think this is a coincidence, my friends, considering the attack on the dealerships, the shootings, the threats against Musk's life.
Firefighters with flashlights arrived and put out the flames.
Video from the Como 4 drone showed the aftermath.
The SFD Energy Response Team also responded to the case of possible fire hazards from the vehicle's lithium-ion batteries.
Seattle fire investigators, along with members of the ATF, were at the scene Monday afternoon looking into the cause of the fire that damaged the vehicle.
The cause of the fire is still under investigation.
It raises questions about whether it could be connected to protests in the Pacific Northwest and across the nation against Tesla owner Elon Musk and his role in the Trump administration while the Department of Government Efficiency cutting more than 62,000 federal jobs.
Quote, It's not my approach.
It's not the approach of the people around me.
David Hermanson, who has helped organize some of the local Tesla protests.
It's just not the way we do things.
And in some ways, I think it's not really helpful.
I want people to see us as a peaceful movement.
This is what they do.
The far left entertains the diversity of tactics, they call it.
So what we end up getting is these people who say, we're all about peace.
We are peaceful protesters, my friends.
Leave us alone.
And then when the extremists come, they say, they're not with us.
But we're not going to stop them either.
Yeah.
Now, Elon Musk, we covered this yesterday.
Let me pull up this tweet here.
Elon Musk accused.
Prominent billionaires are funding protests against them.
And we have this tweet from Reid Hoffman that I'm going to pull up.
So let me just stress, before we dive into the much more serious stories, that is, if you're a Tesla owner and your vehicle was shot, how do you feel about owning a Tesla now?
In a more, I don't know, I guess like humorous...
Part of the story, Donald Trump has come out saying, Elon's taking one for the team.
He's fighting for his country, so I'm going to go buy a Tesla.
Trying to get everybody to go buy Teslas.
I got three.
I like Tesla vehicles.
They're fantastic.
And I'm a big fan of Elon.
Certainly not a perfect guy.
I always say that.
But I'm a fan.
I think it is great work.
We've been nervous.
Tesla owner speaks out after car damaged by gunfire.
And this was one of the questions that came up yesterday when we were talking about escalation of war or violence.
Are they just attacking dealerships?
Or are they actually attacking the owners of Tesla vehicles?
Now, these vehicles were parked at a Tesla dealership, and they were shot up.
So it's not like it was a random Tesla driving down the street.
They targeted a dealership.
However, there have been numerous stories of Tesla vehicles being lightly vandalized.
And I say lightly because we just talked about arson.
No, people getting windows smashed and the cars keyed and things like that.
So we will get into this, but I want to show you this tweet from Reid Hoffman.
Elon Musk says, let me pull up Elon's tweet first, sorry.
An investigation has found five ActBlue-funded groups responsible for Tesla protests.
Troublemakers, Disruption Project, Rise and Resist, Indivisible Project, and the Democratic Socialists of America.
ActBlue funders include Soros, Reid Hoffman, Herbert Sandler, Patricia Bowman.
And Leah Hunt Hendricks.
ActBlue is currently under investigation for allowing foreign and illegal donations in criminal violation of campaign finance regulations.
This week, seven ActBlue senior officials resigned, including the associate general counsel.
If you know anything about this, please post in the replies.
Reid Hoffman, major Democrat donor, has replied, saying, just one more of Elon's false claims about me.
I never funded anyone for Tesla protests.
Bang!
Right there.
I can tell he's lying.
No, no, no.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Elon did not say that Reid Hoffman paid protests, paid people to protest.
He said this guy has provided money to ActBlue and money from ActBlue has gone to these protests.
You see, what Elon is saying is the origin of these funds comes from prominent billionaires and then funnels down.
to these various protest movements, these nonprofits.
Reid Hoffman says, I never funded anyone for Tesla protests.
Oh, okay.
Are you saying you did fund some of these nonprofits, which then paid people to protest?
He says, I don't condone violence, but it's clear Americans are angry at him.
It's easier to explain away the anger than to accept that actions have consequences.
Let's take a look at these community notes.
Reid Hoffman is a major funder of the Indivisible.
Of Indivisible, the group organizing and financing Tesla protests.
Is that true?
Well, we got this tweet from Kaneko with the Great, which is a fact check, it says.
Kaneko with the Great says, Reed Hoffman denies funding the Tesla protests.
It is a major funder of Indivisible, a group actively funding and organizing anti-Musk demonstrations at Tesla showrooms, factories and dealerships, events that have led to widespread vandalism.
I'm going to pause right there, buddy.
At this point, terrorism.
Firebombing and shooting up buildings ain't not vandalism, my friends.
Indivisible explicitly offers reimbursements of up to $200 for groups staging protests against Musk at Tesla locations.
Their Musk or Us campaign urges activists to take the fight to Elon and Tesla showrooms, factories and dealerships providing detailed protest kits with printable signs and stickers.
These materials label Musk a muskrat, authoritarian king and traitor, even depicting a Tesla Cybertruck engulfed in flames.
Heavens me!
I wonder why people would be engaged in burning up Tesla vehicles, shooting them up.
Could it be?
Reid Hoffman and his other big Democrat donors are a part of the, oh, won't someone rid me of this priest camp?
Now, I don't know if Reid Hoffman knows anything about this, but it certainly appears based on what we're seeing.
Here's a guy who says, here's a bunch of money, NGO. Oh, won't someone rid me of this meddlesome electric car?
Space mogul.
For those who aren't familiar, it's the famous story of the king.
What's his face?
It's been a long time.
But he's like, oh, won't someone rid me of this priest?
And then the two knights go out and they murder the priest and everyone gets mad.
Was it?
No, it wasn't a king.
I don't think so.
It was a lord or something.
And they were like, you did this!
And he was like, I did not tell them to do this!
And they were like, you may as well have.
They go on to say, one sign features Musk and Trump on a king of spades card.
Their faces scratched out in red with the slogan, no kings.
Hoffman's organization.
Investing in U.S. has been widely reported, including by the New York Times, is a key financial supporter of Indivisible.
So how can Hopin claim he never funded the Tesla protests?
Because it is, how do you say, only technically the truth.
And of course, technically true is the best kind of true.
Indivisible says Elon Musk is using his wealth to seize government power for personal gain.
This goes beyond politics.
It's billionaire-driven authoritarianism and corporate overreach.
We're fighting back and protesting at Tesla locations nationwide.
Demand accountability.
Well, there's Indivisible.
The Tesla Town Hall take the fight to Elon.
Why Elon Musk?
To fight back, we have to meet Musk where he operates across the country at Tesla showrooms, factories, and dealerships.
No, he doesn't!
You think he goes to dealerships?
Indivisible Project can reimburse groups for eligible expenses up to $200 per group directly.
Paying protesters.
It's right there in front of your eyes, ladies and gentlemen.
Don't you ignore it.
Indivisible says, Musk or us, congressional recess from the Indivisible Digital Asset Management.
And you've got a picture of a cyber truck, and it's on fire.
You've also got no kings, Musk or us, and GTFO Elon.
Which side are you on, Musk or us?
Sounds like a very light threat.
No kings with their faces scratched out.
Similar.
It's all very light.
But a cyber truck on fire.
That's awfully specific.
Here's a story I just mentioned a moment ago.
Tesla owners having bullets lodged into their vehicles.
Now, here's a scary thing.
You know, in the movies, you ever see the last action hero with Arnold?
And it's about a kid who gets a magic ticket that when you rip it, you can go into the movie.
How fun is that?
And he goes into this film where Arnold is a cop.
Arnold is a cop.
And he brings him out into the real world.
There's this famous scene.
It's really funny.
Where the bad guy gets in the cabin and is driving away.
And then Arnold's character, I don't know the guy's name, he's like, I'll take care of it.
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He points the gun and he shoots the back of the- Today we spoke to a man who wishes to remain anonymous but says his Tesla was among those damaged at the- I'll let that play in a second.
tim pool
I hate these local affiliate websites because they autoplay all the time.
But anyway, my point was, he shoots the taxi and then nothing happens.
And he thought it was going to explode.
People think vehicles blow up because movies show someone shooting the car and the car explodes.
Lithium-ion batteries, on the other hand, those blow up.
They don't blow up in the same way like a concussive explosion.
If you've ever seen a punctured lithium-ion battery, it sprays fire through rapid oxidization and then bursts into flames.
But anyway, let's actually play this video.
And I want to take this opportunity to say I cannot stand local affiliate websites.
I rarely use them because they autoplay randomly like they just did.
That being said, here's the clip.
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Today we spoke to a man who wishes to remain anonymous but says his Tesla was among those damaged at the Tigard store this past week.
He says he took his vehicle in to get the windshield replaced only to have that replacement damaged by gunfire.
He says he's been following the vandalism at Tesla stores and was worried something like this might happen.
We've been nervous driving the car and Uncomfortable even having it parked out in front of our house.
We have taken the steps of covering the car at night.
It seemed like at the time when we got the car it was more of a left-wing or left-leaning person's car.
The group behind today's demonstration, Indivisible Greater Vancouver, said they do not condone acts of vandalism or of violence, adding these actions aren't conducive to the kind of change they're pushing for.
tim pool
Lies.
Sorry, man.
You can't put up pictures of flaming cyber trucks and then be surprised that when you go out and say Elon Musk is evil and it's him or us.
You're then surprised that in your area where you are protesting, somebody shot up a bunch of vehicles.
Now the funny thing is he said when he bought the vehicle, it seemed like something a left-wing person might have.
Ladies and gentlemen, we're at the point where the far left is now setting fire to electric vehicles.
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Ha!
tim pool
Oh man, how about that?
Here we go.
A Tesla owner who wished to remain anonymous said his car was among those damaged by gunfire at a Tiger dealership last week, leaving him concerned about owning an electric vehicle.
We've been nervous driving the car and uncomfortable even having it parked out in front of our house.
We have taken the steps of covering the car at night.
We're going to just close that website because they keep doing that.
But yeah, my friends, this is the reality.
And unfortunately, it seems like it's escalating.
And the worst part is, those annoying local news websites, even after I turned the video off, had a different player that played another auto video.
And then I'm like, where's the sound coming from?
Close.
But it's not just the vehicles.
Elon Musk under attack.
Full list of alleged threats against the tech mogul.
This is from a couple weeks ago, two weeks ago.
Yeah, this has been going on for some time now.
So I don't think it's a coincidence that people are setting fire to Cybertrucks, shooting up Teslas.
Here's some regular guy who bought an electric car and they put a bullet in it.
Fortunately, nobody was inside.
But is this any different from the Weather Underground?
Now, some people have made those connections.
The Weather Underground largely engaged in shock and awe campaigns.
There was the incident where they were robbing a bank and they killed a guy.
But largely...
The attacks they'd engage in were at night when people weren't around because they were trying to engage in serious disruption.
We're there.
We are there, my friends.
This is it.
We don't know who's doing it.
We have a general idea of who's associated with it.
We may get the information at some point in the future.
For the time being, Tesla dealerships are having bombs placed at them.
They are being shot up.
They are being generally vandalized.
Elon Musk is being threatened.
Let's grab this story from Newsweek.
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From Newsweek.
They say recently revealed texts show that Elon Musk, who's leading the Doge, is deeply worried about assassination attempts.
There have been a number of alleged threats against Musk's life and property recently because of his close association with Trump.
There have been a number of alleged threats to Musk's life, including.
Indiana State Police said in a statement this month that a 28 year old David Allen June Sherry is facing one felony count of intimidation.
Sherry owns an online store called Red Pond Dynamics, which sells communist, anarchist and political themed merchandise.
I just like to pause and say anarchism and communism are like.
Antithetical to each other?
You know, it's kind of hilarious.
These people have no idea what they're talking about.
He allegedly made threats over several months in posts that were replies to Musk's social media comments.
According to prosecutors, Cherry is alleged to have commented on X. I'm gonna not read what he said, okay?
Because I don't, yeah.
Yeah.
Basically outright saying he's going to harm Elon Musk.
So yeah.
He has a GoFundMe set up, which raised $4,000 for his legal defense.
Look at that.
The GoFundMe page states that Sherry was arrested on bogus allegations.
He did nothing more than voice an opinion on social media.
Sure he did.
Alleged threats to a data center.
Exploding Tesla truck.
And of course, everything else that we've seen.
So yeah.
Elon was talking about this on Joe Rogan, and he said, The amount of death threats you get is proportional to the amount of times people say your name.
And he's very famous.
Now, aside from the physical stuff, yesterday we saw that X was down.
And Rumble, they were both under cyber attacks.
And the corporate press is running cover for the extremists.
Now, what we know is that...
Elon Musk said they faced a massive cyber attack, which was much more sophisticated than some ragtag group could have pulled off.
So he assumed that it was a special interest group or country, and the IP addresses pointed to Ukraine.
That doesn't mean Ukraine did it.
But one by one, the corporate press ran out and started claiming that it was a low-level activist action against X, which shut it down.
B.S. 100% BS. I tell you this now, my friends.
No way.
Not true.
X doesn't just go down because of a run-of-the-mill DDoS attack.
That's a distributed denial-of-service attack, which is rudimentary at best and largely can't affect a site like Twitter, X, which has 350 million users and needs to handle billions of requests per second, probably.
I mean, people are tweeting left and right at each other, sending DMs.
And you've got viewers who aren't even users.
Here's one from the BBC. Experts have cast doubt on Elon Musk's claim that a large-scale outage which hit Axe was caused by hackers in Ukraine.
Platform Monitor Down Detector says it had more than 1.6 million reports of problems with the social media site from users around the world.
Quote, we're not sure exactly what happened.
But there was a massive cyber attack to try and bring down the X system with IP addresses originating in the Ukraine area.
Now, that quote isn't Elon saying Ukraine did it.
He's just telling you the facts.
However, Cyrin Martin, am I pronouncing that right?
Professor at Oxford University's Blavatnik School of Government told me to see the explanation was wholly unconvincing and pretty much garbage.
I'm going to pause real quick and just I want you all to ask this question.
Why is a professor?
At the School of Government, an expert on this, they say, Professor Martin, former head of the UK's National Cyber Security Center, says it looks as if X was targeted by what's known as a distributed denial-of-service attack, where hackers flood a server with internet traffic to prevent users from connecting to a website.
He's lying.
This man is lying to you?
I'm going to say it again.
He is a liar.
He is lying to you.
That's what they've been doing.
Because I can break it down for you, and I can give you some logic.
Let's try.
He says, it's not that sophisticated.
It's a very old technique.
I can't think of a company of the size and standing internationally of X that's fallen over to a DDoS attack for a very long time.
He said the incident at X doesn't reflect well on their cybersecurity.
Let me pause for a second.
Homie can't think of a company of this size and standing that's fallen to a DDoS attack in a long time.
Then why would the assumption be that X fell to a DDoS attack now stands to reason that Elon is correct.
Let me tell you this.
For those that don't know, and I think most of you do, but forgive me if you already know what it means, because I talked about it last night.
Distributed denial of service is when a denial of service attack is when a computer makes as many requests as possible.
Requests.
It literally says it rings your doorbell.
So it's hitting an IP address with your computer's telephone number, effectively.
And it's phones ringing off the hook so much.
Nobody can call you and you can't answer it.
That's a denial of service.
Distributed denial of service is when you get 10 of your buddies to all start spamming a phone number at the same time so it's even harder to answer the phone.
Nothing gets through.
Typically, DDoS attacks are done through botnets.
These are a large group of computers that are infected with a virus so they can be remotely controlled by a central computer or server and give them a command and they all...
We'll fire away.
Imagine you had 100 phones at your desk and you clicked one button, every phone called one phone number.
Ain't nobody's going to be able to talk to that person on that phone.
X has, I believe the estimate is 350 million users.
Let me get the hard number for you guys.
How many X users?
I think it's 350. Could be more.
Could be less.
I don't know.
Let's see.
I'm asking our friend Chet GPT and their assessment is 429 million.
Wow!
Holy crap.
Some estimates put it at 540 million.
However, active daily users, these are people who every day are posting, at least once, 245 million.
Okay.
Let's entertain this.
This means that X can handle more than, I don't know, what, 10 billion queries per second?
Think about the amount.
This place is going to need.
You got 245 million people who are posting at least once a day.
Most people are posting more than that.
Or actually, it's around 20%.
It's about 40-50 million are posting more than they post several times a day.
This means with people opening their apps, reading posts, you are at least getting, I mean, with 245 million active users, 245 million queries in a single day.
Double that, triple that, etc.
How many posts per second?
And I gotta clarify.
A single post, not a query.
Every time you open a tweet, every time you open a DM, every time you refresh your feed, every time the app auto-refreshes and loads new posts, this app must handle 10 billion queries, maybe 10 billion per day.
So to what degree of DDoS do you need to shut it down?
That's sophisticated.
And then, of course, The corporate press trots out and says, this hasn't happened to a large company in a very long time, but now it is happening and acts as bad at security.
Wouldn't that logic, good sir, be indicative of a state-level actor?
How is this guy going to come out and say, no, no, it's not a state-level actor, but boy, regular old DDSs have not hit companies like this in a real long time.
You see the game they're playing.
They're lying.
Rumble also.
said that they were hit by a DDoS attack just the other day.
We are live on Rumble right now.
Unsurprising.
They're not going to back down.
And they're not going to let Rumble win.
But Rumble has to win, my friends.
Rumble has to.
Because YouTube plays dirty games.
The front page of YouTube is typically loaded with garbage that doesn't keep people informed, and that's the intention.
And then you've got the stock.
Elon Musk's very bad day, the dramatic escalations, the constitutional crisis.
I want to briefly go over this before we jump into what Ray Dalio has to say about civil war and what we're currently looking at.
Are we headed for a constitutional crisis?
Kennedy School scholars on the Trump administration and the rule of law.
Experts see an unprecedented challenge to the rule of law and to constitutional norms and ponder the courts and other institutions will respond.
Here's the story for you.
I got a larger segment for y'all on Mahmoud Khalil coming up at noon.
This is a, for those who don't know, this guy was one of the organizers of the anti-Israel protests at universities across the country.
This man has been, he's a green card holder, permanent resident, and he was arrested and is facing deportation.
The left said that he was disappeared in the middle of the night.
He wasn't, he was arrested.
But does it matter?
Again, I've got a segment on this.
It's much longer.
Let me just say this.
The left is saying Trump is threatening to deport and disappear people who speak out against him and Israel.
And while the right is largely divided on this, many on the right are saying this guy has no right to be in this country and protest illegally and literally illegally.
You can't obstruct and take over buildings.
Taking over a building is a serious crime.
So he should be deported.
The issue at play right now is not to debate that issue, because again, another segment coming up.
It's to point out the divide exists.
And the view is that Trump is acting like a fascist dictator.
And that's where we're currently at.
We have this from Democracy Now!
Mahmoud Khalil was, quote, abducted before his wife's very eyes and disappeared.
Okay, he got arrested and he's in jail.
He wasn't disappeared.
They're saying that because these people are psychotic!
I just, they're nuts!
But that's what they do.
Disappeared.
Trump is a fascist dictator.
They arrested the guy.
Calm down.
I can't stand these people, dude.
They're insane.
But I want to go to this story as we round out this morning show.
The Coming Great Conflict by Ray Dalio.
He wrote this in June of 24. As you know, based on my study of history, I believe there are now and have been, always been, five big interrelated forces that drive how domestic and world orders change.
Oh, yeah. yeah.
This conversation's been had quite a bit, my friends.
But certainly I believe it is fair to say sooner or later, you're going to have to pick a side, keep your head down and flee.
Now, I'll give you this before I read a little bit.
Keeping your head down, you're basically saying I'm going to sit here until until you lose your life.
Keeping your head down isn't an option.
It's what cowards do.
They hide.
They refuse to speak up.
And they believe that if I just don't say anything, I will survive.
OK, well, to be fair, many of you may, depending on what happens.
It's not like literally every German citizen was wiped out with the rise of the Nazis or with the advance of the Allied forces and the crushing of the German government.
That being said, those that were on East Germany, on that side, certainly did not live very well after the fact.
They kept their heads down.
Those that fled and fled to the United States or to other countries didn't have to deal with that.
That being said, those that fled to Argentina also didn't have to deal with it, but that's a whole other story.
Easy enough, though.
I mean, yeah, fleeing.
Maybe that's you.
He writes, I believe we now have to face the fact that fighting for democracy as we know it, with thoughtful disagreement and compromises governed by rule of law, is unlikely to work.
People like me who had a long shot hope for the emergence of a strong middle that fights against the extremists to bring the country together and makes major reforms to improve the system must recognize the differences are becoming too irreconcilable for this to happen.
I'm going to pause, Ray.
I'm going to pause.
We are the middle.
We are the middle.
This is what I can't stand.
The middle chose a side and chose rationality.
The left has gone insane.
They have no cause.
They have no logic.
They have no internal moral structure or principles.
On the right, which has disaffected and post-liberals, libertarians, Trump supporters, neocons, and boy, do we fight with those guys.
Don't forget, a lot of neocons fled to the Democratic Party because they love war.
I'm loving the Bill Kristol pro-trans arc.
That's hilarious.
But on the right side, you have disagreement and debate.
There is principle.
There is logic.
We are arguing with each other all the time.
On the left, there is blind zealotry that makes literally no sense.
Spaceman bad.
Orange man bad.
That's it.
They say the right is a cult because they like Trump.
People rag on Trump all the time.
Right now, the left can't seem to understand why we're all posting memes making fun of JD Vance.
We're ribbing on the guy.
It's funny.
It makes you laugh.
And JD Vance is in on it.
Nobody hates him.
It's just funny.
Pick your side, I suppose.
Ray keeps saying, I was hoping there'd be a middle.
There's not going to be a middle ground.
When you go to a leftist and say, hey, look, man, I just don't think this graphic book should be given to kids.
And they say it should.
And you're like, what is wrong with you, bro?
I'm not talking about mass deportations right now.
I'm not talking about abolishing the government.
I'm not talking about abolishing the FBI. I'm literally saying just don't give these gross books to kids.
And the left says no.
We're like, OK. We got ourselves a disagreement.
Because policy-wise, you want to talk about taxes?
We can all get along.
The Democrats come on and say, tax more, and we go, tax less.
And then every few years it goes back and forth.
And we can live with that.
Because the rate of taxes is irksome, but not apocalyptic.
But now we are facing a cultural existential crisis where the left is outright saying men should be in women's sports.
And when you had a video of a male volleyball player bashing a teenage girl in the face, a prominent liberal podcaster posted the video saying, ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
This is irreconcilable.
But they are not the middle.
They are a fringe cult that believes psychotic things that are based not in logic, but in whatever the cult says.
On the right, you have Donald Trump right now today saying we should primary Thomas Massey.
And then you've got many people coming out being like, no Trump, you're wrong.
Thomas Massey rocks.
The left is largely cultish.
It's to varying degrees, but let's just say this.
On the right, you've got 30% culty people.
They'll agree with Trump no matter what.
On the left, you have 30% slightly not culty, but they're too scared to speak up because the cult will take their jobs away.
Dalio says, Based on the lessons I learned from studying history about how things typically transpire under similar circumstances, I believe that what we're seeing now is the parties increasingly moving to greater extremism and a fight to win at all cost mode.
This is threatening the rule of law as we know it and is bringing us closer to some form of civil war.
As I will explain below, this is not necessarily a violent conflict that's possible.
When I wrote my book, Principles for Dealing with Changing World Order, which I looked at the rises and declines of domestic and world orders over the last 500 years.
I chronicled the six stages of the big internal order to cycle.
Their symptoms and the cause affect relationships that drive them.
Just like life cycles, these stages are logical and everyone goes through them, typically about once in a lifetime.
Toward the end of the cycle, which is where all the signs and symptoms show us to be today, people typically face a choice between fighting for one side or another, keeping their heads down, or fleeing.
When I wrote the book in 2020, I saw the writing on the wall, but I'd hoped for the possibility that we would not cross the brink into a type of civil war.
So I estimated the chance was about one in three.
At the time, this was considered a crazy high estimate.
This was before the 2020 election being contested on January 6th.
Now I think the risk is uncomfortably more than 50%.
And I am confident that the next year, we will know the answer to whether we cross the brink.
Well, good sir, it's been almost a year since you wrote this.
It has been nine months, I believe.
And what we're looking at now is they are shooting up and torching Tesla dealerships and cars, threatening to murder people across social media.
Support for Luigi Mangione is skyrocketing.
Do we have this story pulled up right here?
Pro Luigi Mangione content is filling up social media platforms, and it's a challenge to moderate.
Here's the issue I take.
You know, we should see if we can get Ray Dalio on the culture war and I can have a sit down with him and just let him just explain a lot of the stuff and then I'll give him my views.
When he says both sides are engaged in extremism.
Let me tell you this.
Was it Donald Trump in 2016 who started trying to arrest Democrats?
It wasn't.
Was it Donald Trump in, and I should say, after the 2016 election?
So when Donald Trump won in 2016, became president for that term, did he try to arrest Democrats?
Did he create concentration camps?
No.
Did he round up protesters?
No.
Did he invoke the Insurrection Act and go and arrest a bunch of these far leftists who are firebombing buildings?
No.
Let's try this.
During Trump's term, Was the far left that was firebombing buildings?
Yes.
Did they ransack D.C. on May 29th?
And did they ransack large, small towns all across the country, resulting in 30-plus deaths for political reasons?
Yeah, that was the left, largely.
Did they firebomb a federal building for over 100 days, literally lobbing explosives and fighting with cops?
Yeah, that was the left.
Did the mayor join them?
Yeah, he did.
Did they create autonomous zones where people were brutally murdered?
Yep, yeah, they did that.
Did a far-left extremist put two bullets in the chest of a Trump supporter walking down the street in Portland?
Yeah, that happened.
Man!
Wow!
Where were the Trump supporters going around doing any of this stuff?
Oh, that's right, Jussie Smollett.
When the two guys in MAGA hats in Chicago, in a non-residential area, walked up to a guy at two in the morning in freezing temperatures and said, this MAGA country, and splashed him with bleach from a Tabasco bottle and put a string from a hardware store in the shape of a noose around his neck.
And then when Jesus Mollett called the police, he was still wearing it.
He was wearing it.
And then he got arrested, and it was largely proven.
I say largely because I don't—well, I actually know he was convicted, wasn't he?
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Yeah, a hoax, as it were.
tim pool
So I gotta say, when Ray Dalio says it's getting more and more extreme, it's not.
You still have the same old people, like me, saying, chill the F out, and you have the left escalating calls for violence and engaging in violence.
The right is not getting more extreme at all.
Now you can say, what do you mean, Tim?
Trump and Doge are going and gutting the government and doing these things.
This is not them getting more extreme.
This is Donald Trump's administration reacting to the left being extreme.
When they are trying to imprison Donald Trump, when they have arrested his lawyers for simply representing him, and they did, I stress, Jenna Ellis, despite the fact that she's a coward, that's fine.
All she did was represent Trump as a lawyer, and they criminally charged her under RICO and forced her to confess.
And like the coward she is, she did.
She shouldn't have.
So, Ray, you say both sides are getting more extreme, but it's just not the case.
There's no roving bands of right-wingers torching buildings.
It's not real.
The left will point to fringe extremist groups and say that proves it.
But on the left, you have the overt defense.
So when Patriot Front grows out, all the conservatives are like, screw that, they're feds.
On January 6th, the people who are calling for storming the Capitol building, everyone screamed they were feds.
Don't get me wrong, a lot of regular people on the right were involved in J6, in the riot portion, and they should go to jail.
Who on the right is saying none of them should have been criminally charged for attacking cops?
All of the sentiment was basically like, if you attack cops, you go to jail.
You see, the right has been reasonable.
The whole time.
And the Democrats on the far left have been completely unreasonable and unhinged the whole time.
And, Ray, you say that it's becoming more extreme on both sides.
It's not.
He goes on to say domestically in the U.S., there are two political sides, which are also each divided into two.
The right, right Republican team, divided into the hard right and the moderate right, and the left, the blue Democratic team, which divided into the hard left and the moderate left.
Wrong!
But sure.
Throughout history, in the later stages of the cycle of eternal order and disorder, both sides become increasingly hard, extreme for logical reasons.
This is the part of the cycle we are in.
Classically at this stage, wealth and values gaps are large.
People have lost faith the system will get them what they want, and the hard right and the hard left become increasingly committed to winning for their constituents at all costs, which eventually means abandoning the rules of the game.
First, the left has been doing this for a long time, not the right, and the right is only responding with some kind of calls for accountability.
So if you want to say that the right is escalating its tactics against the left, I accept that.
If you want to say both sides are becoming more extreme, I say you are completely wrong.
Donald Trump is not doing anything more extreme.
He's simply responding to the left in Trump's first term.
Did he build a 30-foot concrete wall?
No.
He said it, but they ended up putting up select bollard fencing and securing certain areas.
Guess what?
Democratic politicians 10 years prior had called for the exact same thing, including Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders.
Certainly not the right becoming more extreme.
Every graph tracking political ideology has shown the left shooting to the left and the right staying basically where it is or even moving a little to the left.
He was going to say, You're going to have to choose to keep your head down or flee.
To make this decision only a bit more extreme than it currently is, I'm looking at these two sides.
If you had to choose between a fascist government and a communist government, who would you choose?
The only issue is there's no fascist government.
Where is it?
Donald Trump in his first term would not even invoke the Insurrection Act, which is not fascist.
It is within his executive branch authority to do, and he didn't do it!
And they say he's a fascist and he's extreme.
If you are not knowledgeable about what fascism is, a dictatorship of the hard right, and what communism is, a dictatorship of the hard left, I urge you to get schooled because if you had to make choices, it's really important to understand them.
Oh boy!
I'd love to have a conversation with Ray, I'll see if we can book him for culture war.
Fascism is typically described as an ultra-nationalistic authoritarian system rooted in hard moral tradition, whereas communism is an economic left system.
Both are, to varying degrees, command economies, meaning central authorities control the economies.
Communism typically revolves around the state controlling all resources, deciding how they get divvied up.
Fascism does not.
But I'll explain.
Communism is associated with the destruction and the purge of moral traditions and progressivism.
So if you take a look at the conflicts in World War II, the fascists are...
Authoritarian, moralistic, moral traditionalists, and they're not overtly seizing control of the economy, but through these hard pressures, they do enforce this.
And people get arrested without charge or trial and due process.
It's a dictatorship.
We are not seeing that under Donald Trump at all.
Now, maybe you fear that may happen.
Under the Democrats, we have seen the other side of things.
There's no logic to what they're doing.
They say climate change, so they give hundreds of billions of dollars to their cronies and their allies in Loudoun County, Virginia, and the surrounding areas of Maryland, various counties.
They're torching and burning up electric vehicles while claiming climate change is coming.
The left does seem to be communistic in many of the activists like the Democratic Socialists of America are calling for it.
There is no Republican fascists of America organizing body trying to implement fascism.
It does not exist.
You have simply people saying, hey, the left has gone too far.
That's it.
Guess what?
Republicans still at about 48% support gay marriage.
How about that for fascists?
So how about when the entire unified Republican Party is anti-gay and anti-trans to the point of zero support?
You could argue they've become more extreme.
He was going to make several points, but I'll just come to his conclusion.
And oh boy, take a look at this.
We don't need to see that.
Class warfare, the loss of truth in the public domain, rule following fades and raw fighting begins.
Late in stage five, increasing numbers of protests that become increasingly violent because there's not always a clear line between healthy protests in the beginnings of revolution.
Leaders in power often struggle over how to allow protests without giving the perceived freedom to revolt against the system.
Indeed, we're not quite there yet, but we may be getting there soon, especially when people are shooting up Tesla dealerships.
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Yes.
tim pool
when there are civil wars, civil wars inevitably happen.
So rather than assuming it won't happen here, which most people in countries assume after an extended period of not having them, it is better to be wary of them and look for the markers.
While in the last section, we looked at nonviolent revolutions that took place within the order.
In this section, we'll look at the markers and the patterns of civil wars and revolutions that were almost always violent and toppled the old order and placed it with a new one.
Take a look at this.
This really is an excellent article.
And based on what we've seen so far, I recommend you guys check it out and read the full thing.
I'd love to have a conversation with Ray if we can get him booked, but they say it's adapted from Principles for Dealing with and Changing World Order by Ray Dalio 2021. Interesting.
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You're right.
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