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Trump Will be JAILED If He Attends His Supreme Court Case, Democrats Have Gone FULL COMMUNIST

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Now, let's get into that first story.
The hour is much later.
Then people realize, I don't know what that means in terms of what happens tomorrow.
Just that stability is slipping away.
I don't even know if it's fair to say there is stability anymore.
This headline, New York judge says Donald Trump can't attend Supreme Court argument next week.
That's right.
The former president of the United States, Seeking to have one of the most important questions answered, questions in this country, is a president immune from criminal prosecution for things that he did in his official duties?
I think any honest person knows the answer to that is yes.
That means the president must be impeached and convicted before you can bring criminal charges.
And in the case of Donald Trump pertaining to January 6, Trump was already acquitted.
This is a big question and Trump would like to attend the oral arguments at the Supreme Court.
A judge in New York presiding over a case that is fake.
The hour is much later than you realize, my friends.
Over in, uh, in Europe, there was a conservatism conference shut down by police in the United States, pro-Palestine, and some pro-Hamas.
Protesters are shutting down airports and bridges, and quite literally pro-Hamas.
There's videos of them chanting death to America.
The hour is much later than you realize.
I don't know what this means.
Again, does it mean there's going to be a civil war?
Perhaps.
I don't know.
Does it mean there's going to be a totalitarian communist regime?
Perhaps.
I don't know.
Maybe a fascist one.
No idea.
But we're certainly not going to be standing where we are a year from now or two years from now with all this.
It is 2024.
The election is in November.
And it says so much about what's happening right now.
And aside from domestic issues, Israel is vowing to strike Iran, and Russia appears to have entered the conflict on the side of Iran, providing them with new weapons and munitions to use against Israel that they've never used before.
That no one's seen before, whatever that means.
That's an entirely different story.
The story here, right now, Donald Trump's criminal trial began just the other day.
It is fake, and I'll explain.
Donald Trump is accused of falsifying business records to pay off Stormy Daniels so that she would remain quiet on an alleged affair.
Now, Stormy Daniels owes Donald Trump several hundred thousand dollars from court cases that he sued her over.
She says she will never pay him a cent.
And the story goes, While Trump was campaigning, Stormy Daniels had this story.
The argument... Well, I'll give you the basic facts.
Michael Cohen, according to the case, paid off Stormy Daniels $130,000 so that she would not go public with the story.
That's it!
Aside from that, where the criminal case arises is that Donald Trump was paying Michael Cohen a retainer fee for legal services.
The DA in New York is arguing that Retainer was obfuscating payments to Michael Cohen to pay off Stormy Daniels, and that Trump, wanting to hide this presumable campaign finance issue, or who knows, we don't actually know, it's undisclosed, he used the Retainer to reimburse Michael Cohen.
Now, the DOJ and the FEC have both said there is no crime.
So how is felony?
It's fake.
And that's why I say the hour is later than you all realize.
Maybe many of you do realize, fine, whatever.
But let me just break this down.
A district attorney in New York has taken a misdemeanor charge, which the FEC and the DOJ have both said didn't even happen.
He's taken this charge, upgraded it to a felony.
Under this idea, there is some underlying crime that Trump was trying to cover up.
That's why he lied in these documents.
There's no evidence of any other crime.
There's no prosecution, no statements, no evidence, nothing.
And now here Trump is, going to court.
Now here's where it gets wild.
The New York jury pool is so biased, they dismissed half of the jurors without selecting even a single one.
Here's what I think's going to happen.
I think, in New York, 12% are Trump supporters.
So he's gonna get one juror.
One.
Who might actually be favorable to him.
Probably not.
Because that person's gonna get weeded out.
They're gonna say, how do you feel about Trump?
They're gonna go, I don't know, he's fine, I guess.
Ah, he's biased!
Gotta go.
The jurors in New York are so biased, half of them have already been dismissed.
So who knows how long this will take or what will happen.
And this means that while Trump is certainly taking the public approach of saying, I want to see my son graduate, Barron Trump's graduation, and the judge has delayed that decision, not outright rejected it.
I'm surprised more people aren't leaning on this.
The New York judge saying he can't go to the Supreme Court.
Apparently, Trump's legal team says this is an extremely important case for the history, for the fabric of this nation, and the judge said, yeah, well, my court's important too!
No.
Your fake felony charge is not important.
But the judge, of course, is evil.
The prosecutor is evil.
The jurors don't care.
You had, even on CNN, that there was a, I think, I could be getting this wrong because I'm seeing this through tweets, but there's a, I heard people talking about, and correct me if I am wrong, comment, that they had a judge on CNN saying that there was a strong case for recusal based on the judge's daughter and her work with raising money and working with Democrats.
Let's go through this.
Let's read this.
Before I do, I want to say this.
I am of the humble opinion that Donald Trump should not attend the criminal proceeding in New York.
Donald Trump should not entertain any of it.
And the question then becomes, what do they do?
They have threatened to arrest Trump and put him in jail if he does not show up for every day of this trial.
As it pertains to his son, the judge said, depending on how much time we have, we'll see, but I won't answer the question now.
As it pertains to the Supreme Court, no, you may not attend the arguments because the Supreme Court of New York is important too.
I don't think Trump should go.
I think that at a certain point, as I've mentioned before, the only group of people in this country that are maintaining the fabric are conservatives.
What I mean by that is, the left doesn't view this as a legitimate trial.
Alvin Bragg, the DA, has not presented any cause as to why this is a felony charge.
Falsifying business records is a misdemeanor.
There's no secondary crime.
The DOJ and the FEC have said there's no crime, so it's fake.
Well, Trump thinks it's real.
And so long as Trump believes in what they're saying, it makes it true.
Trump gladly shows up and recognizes the authority of a court to lie, cheat, and steal.
And now therein lies the big problem.
The conundrum.
We had Harmeet Dhillon on the show on TimCast IRL last night.
She said, what should he do?
What would Trump do?
Is that the mentality of conservatives?
I wonder.
What could Trump do if the state launches false charges, and I said the state, not the US government, the state of New York, files false charges against you that legal scholars, experts, and everyone's like, this is not real.
Why would you go?
Seriously.
Former president, you'd be like, what, this is a joke?
This is not real?
This is an actual proceeding?
No.
There could be one simple reason.
This puts Trump's name front and center on all the TVs and all the newspapers.
And so, he's getting free campaigning off this, a case which will likely be... I don't know what'll happen, to be honest.
I want to say defeated on any standard reasonable grounds, but the people of New York are anything but reasonable.
Look, here's what you guys need to understand about the jurors.
Look at this.
Deadline reports jury selection has ended for the day in Donald Trump's hush money trial.
With 11 people so far having gone through an extensive questionnaire, a total of 32 potential jurors left the courtroom.
I do believe that it's actually 54 now.
Let me see if I can get the updated number.
Let's see.
I believe it was, I want to make sure I get this one right, because Trump jurors, let's see what we have here.
Trump hush money trial live updates.
I believe it was half.
I believe it was more than 32.
So let's see, day two, 34 count indictment, 50.
Okay, at least 50 of 96 jurors were excused.
So the number has been updated.
I think it's important.
I don't know what to expect.
But I can't imagine that anybody who lives in New York is going to want to be the person to acquit Donald Trump.
You see, the thing is, there may be more good people in New York than we all realize or want to believe.
And the reason why these jurors are getting released, I mean, look, some guy, he's probably a moderate, thinking he votes for Trump, whatever.
He shows up and they say, do you support Donald Trump?
And he thinks to himself, If I say yes, everyone will know and they will throw bricks through my windows.
If I say no and I get on this trial, I will have to convict Donald Trump.
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Yikes, what do you do?
tim pool
You do what all the liberals do when they want to hide their faces like cowards.
They say, I hate Donald Trump.
Get themselves booted from the jury without having to do their civic responsibility.
Meanwhile, you have the risk of people who really hate Donald Trump and want to see him go to prison and they're going to lie and say, oh no, I have no strong opinions on Trump at all.
You know, I've heard these things about him, but I don't know.
I guess he's whatever.
I could be fair and impartial.
Then they get on the jury and then they say guilty immediately.
Don't care.
Even if a Trump supporter were to be selected, they will vote guilty.
When Trump was in that civil trial for abusing that woman, E. Jean Carroll, it was a big story that one of the jurors had listened to my podcast.
unidentified
Wow!
tim pool
History, huh?
How about that?
And it's fascinating.
They wanted to exclude him because he had listened to Timcast IRL one or two times.
Remarkable.
The people in this case know that if they say Trump is innocent and not guilty or whatever, Antifa will show up and mercilessly beat them and their children.
That's terrorism.
And so they're going to do what any good communist slave will do, cry and then say Trump's guilty, please leave me alone.
Here's a story from Deadline.
After the prospective jurors left the courtroom, Trump's attorney, Todd Blanche, requested that his client be excused from the proceedings on April 25th.
That's the day the Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in Trump's claims of immunity from prosecution, which I can easily break down for anybody who doesn't understand.
Give me a second.
But Mershawn rejected the request.
Quote, arguing before the Supreme Court is a big deal.
I can certainly appreciate why your client would want to be there.
But a trial in New York Supreme Court is also a big deal, he said.
Per a pool report, I will see him here next week.
The trial will be dark on Wednesdays when Mershon has other court duties, but he has not ruled out scheduling proceedings on that day if the trial runs behind schedule.
Remarkable.
The president is immune from criminal charges pertaining to his official duties.
Period.
It's a fact.
It now needs to be decided by the Supreme Court.
I believe they will likely say, yeah, you can't do this.
But I'll explain.
This is what the many of the Democrats in the corporate press are trying to argue.
That they're framing the argument as though if a president beats a child in the street, you can't prosecute him.
No, you can't.
Yeah.
If a president is walking down the street and some kid walks up to him and the president just starts wailing on him.
Boom!
In front of everybody.
Yes, he can be arrested and criminally charged.
Now, if the president, say, maybe you've got like a two-term Democrat president, I don't know, how about he signs off on an airstrike which blows up a civilian restaurant in, I don't know, a country we're not at war with, let's say Yemen, and it kills an American citizen.
As much as I'd like to see an impeachment, yes, Barack Obama, that's what he did.
He can't be criminally charged for that.
At least not until he is impeached and convicted, which sucks.
But that's reality.
You see, right now, Barack Obama doesn't even have an inquiry at all pertaining to how he murdered Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki.
I mean, and Anwar al-Awlaki, for that matter.
Don't know who they are?
Anwar al-Awlaki, not a good dude, but certainly an American citizen, blown up in an airstrike.
I believe it was an airstrike, under Barack Obama.
Anwar was allegedly a jihadi preaching jihad against the United States, but he was an American citizen.
And you don't get to just kill American citizens.
See, that's a challenge, isn't it?
Maybe this guy was a jihadi and all these bad things?
Well, have a trial.
Prove it to the American people.
The crazy thing is, not long after, Anwar al-Awlaki's 16-year-old American son, who was born in Boulder and lived in San Diego, was visiting family in Yemen when, for some reason, an airstrike blew up a civilian restaurant, killing a 16-year-old American citizen.
By all means.
Please go after Donald Trump.
If the Supreme Court rules the President has no immunity, then I fully expect prosecutors to bring charges against Barack Obama for the murder of American citizens.
They won't do it, though.
Because, my friends, the hour is later than most people realize.
Right now, Donald Trump is staring down the barrel of what is obviously a fake trial.
And he, gladly, gets on board with it.
I don't know.
I don't know what you do.
I really don't.
I don't have any good answers.
What I can tell you is my fear is that with, I mean, some of these stories we've got right now.
Look, Iran attacks Israel.
Russia is now arming Iran in the event of an Israeli counter-strike.
Israel has vowed to counter-strike.
World War III might end all this domestic bickering.
U.S.
National Guardsmen shot an illegal immigrant at the border.
I'm just watching all this like, man.
A couple weeks ago, I was talking about how when the illegal immigrants were storming the border, fighting with National Guardsmen and ripped their way through, sooner or later, people on the right will begin acting like Antifa.
Not in the same way, but like Antifa.
And what I mean by that is Antifa and these far leftists and roving gangs who are apolitical do not feel that there is any authority anymore.
The police trying to arrest someone is meaningless to the far left, and it has been for 20 some odd years.
They de-arrest, they call it.
They don't care about resisting.
That's plainly obvious.
Far leftists will go into the middle of the street, shut everything down, shut down airports, and when the cops show up to try to arrest the person, other far leftists will attack the cops, punching and kicking, pull the person out of their grip, and they'll flee.
And cops can't do anything about it.
The far leftists do not view the police as an authority, they view them as an obstacle.
But the right still views police as the authority.
So when the police walk up to a conservative and say, don't you do it wag my finger, the conservative goes, I'm so sorry officer, I back the blue.
What happens when that stops happening?
I got one for you.
How about this?
Let's say Donald Trump says it is my my important duty to this country.
And it's history and founding fathers to attend the oral arguments before the Supreme Court to determine once and for all the question of presidential immunity and whether or not a president can be criminally prosecuted by a state or the federal government for actions they took as part of their official duties.
This court case must be, must be done properly and I will be there.
Say Trump says that.
How many, uh, do you think that in New York, the police are going to be like, I respect that, Mr. President, we won't arrest you.
Or do you think the Democrat city and Democrat police will just smile as they arrest Donald Trump and lock him up?
It's funny because I know what many people would say.
They'd say, well, obviously you're in a Democrat city.
Of course, they're going to go after Trump.
Where are the good cops?
unidentified
Come on.
tim pool
Where are they at?
Ain't nobody got any good answers for me.
We can talk about the good cops who are forced out of their departments in Philly or wherever else or LA.
We can talk about the good cops who are in the sheriff's department or in small suburban areas and they know their community.
Yeah, I accept that 100%.
I'm talking about NYPD.
When it comes to NYPD or CPD, they say, where are the good cops?
I say, I say, they say it's only a few bad apples.
I say, where are the good cops?
Where is the police officer's union to do a press conference saying Daniel Penney did nothing wrong?
Where is the police officer's union to come out and say, not a single member of our union will lay a hand on a former president over these charges?
They don't care.
At all.
They don't care at all.
And so I don't accept these excuses where it's like, it's only a few bad apples, Tim.
No.
The bad apple is the police officer who gladly will lock the jail cell doors and say, I'm just doing my job.
Because it's really quite simple.
Any good cop would say, find someone else.
And they'll say, we'll fire you if you don't do it.
Okay.
You see, here's the problem.
The excuse that I hear from everyone is, I have kids, you don't understand.
Okay, you know, fair point.
I don't have kids, right?
But I understand one thing.
Your children will inherit a communist country where they'll live in pods and eat bugs.
So, if that's what you're hoping for, congratulations!
That's what you've gotten.
And again, they'll say, you don't have kids, you don't get it, you don't understand.
Okay, I'm gonna stress this again.
Your children Will inherit a future where they eat bugs shoveled onto the floor by the likes of Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris.
Because it was more important that in the short term you kept your job and made sure you facilitated the arrest of Donald Trump.
That you facilitated the proceedings which prohibited him from attending Supreme Court arguments.
I'll put it this way.
And this is the reality.
It just is.
Donald Trump must attend the Supreme Court hearings for the sake of this nation.
But I guarantee you, each and every one of these cops, guards, bailiffs, whatever, would say, I don't care about SCOTUS.
I don't care about this country.
I need my job.
I guarantee it.
Because that's the comments I get from everybody saying, it's not so easy, gotta feed your kids.
I'm like, I get it.
So that cop is gonna be saying, it's gonna be a hard choice for a lot of them.
Hard in that we know it's a foregone conclusion, but that cop, they're gonna say, Officer Jenkins, arrest Donald Trump!
And he's gonna be sitting there and he's gonna think, arrest Donald Trump?
I can't lose this job.
I gotta pay the bills.
I don't care what happens to this country.
What happens at the Supreme Court doesn't matter to me.
I'm sure it'll all be fine, but my kids need food.
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Yeah.
tim pool
That's the truth.
And that's why I always stress the deal with the devil.
When they instruct the police to arrest Donald Trump, when they instruct the police to arrest Daniel Penney,
when they instruct the police to arrest Daniel Perry, in all of these instances, this is no different.
This is literally the deal with the devil.
You see, I wonder about people who believe in demons and spirituality and religion and faith and all that.
They live in this world where they assume that everything's a miracle.
It must be a miracle.
But let me do this for you.
I love this joke.
I'm such a big fan of this joke.
And it's funny that it's a joke.
And you may have heard it, but let's roll.
There was a great storm, and a man of good faith is sitting in his living room watching the news, and the TV comes on, and they say, the water is rising, you need to get out of your homes now before it's too late.
And the man thinks to himself, no, I am a devout man.
My Lord will save me.
The water levels rise a few feet, and there's a knock on the door, and there's a guy in a truck, and he says, Come on!
unidentified
We gotta go!
tim pool
We're evacuating everybody!
Get in the truck before it's too late!
The water level's already rising a couple feet!
And he goes, No!
I'm a man of faith!
I know that my Lord will save me!
No, you can't stay!
And he says, I refuse!
Okay, they leave.
The water level rises now, seven or eight feet, and the man climbs up to the second floor of his house, He looks out the window and a boat pulls up, and they say, Get in the boat!
unidentified
You've gotta get in the boat!
tim pool
The floodwaters are rising!
And he says, No.
I believe that my lord will save me.
I've been a good man.
I am devout.
He will save me.
They say, Please, you have to get in the boat.
And he says, No, I refuse.
And the boat leaves.
The water levels keep rising, and he climbs onto the roof of his house.
And now, with only a few feet left for the raging waters, rip him away.
unidentified
A helicopter flies overhead, and a rope ladder falls down.
tim pool
And over the Megahorn, they say, Sir, climb the ladder.
You must get in the helicopter.
unidentified
And he goes, No!
I know my Lord will save me.
tim pool
I am a man of faith.
They plead, but he refuses.
The water levels rise.
They engulf the home, sweep the man away, and he drowns, and he dies.
And the next thing he knows, he's at the pearly gates, and he's walking through, and he's just absolutely confused and flabbergasted.
And he goes before God, and he says, My Lord, I have been faithful to you, a faithful believer.
Why didn't you save me?
And he goes, I sent you a truck, a boat, and a helicopter!
You wouldn't take it!
I love that story.
Uh, that joke.
A truck, a boat, and a helicopter!
You said no every time!
What did he think was gonna happen?
Did he think that a beam of light would lift him into the air?
That's why it's such a good story.
The story is, for one, they say God helps those who help themselves.
But also, this is, when it comes to the rescuing, to the goodness, it's not going to be a magic beam of light and a giant hand reaching down to pick you up.
It's gonna be a boat!
And that is going to be the saving of you.
Now that story is great, I love it.
But let me tell you another version of this.
The deal with the devil was never going to be a burst of flame in your living room and then a demonic red monster walks out with hoofed feet and horns and he goes, I am the devil!
unidentified
And I will offer you a deal.
Sports cars, beautiful women, and millions of dollars, but serve the dark army.
tim pool
In the same sense, that's an absurdity!
That is not what happens.
It's actually quite simple.
The demon walks up to you and he says, Do it.
Arrest Donald Trump.
You don't want to get fired, do you?
unidentified
You have kids to feed.
tim pool
That has always been the deal with the devil.
It's remarkable to me the assumption is when, and I mean this figuratively or literally, I'm not saying you have to, but the idea of the Faustian deal.
For some reason, people believe that it's going to be the pick of destiny.
unidentified
If you take this piece of my horn, you can play guitar better than anyone ever played guitar before, but you will then be serving in the Dark Lord's army.
tim pool
And it's like, oh no, sell your soul for eternal fortune, or not for a lively fortune, but then eternal damnation.
What does the deal with the devil really mean?
The devil does not approach people who don't need anything.
The devil doesn't go to you and say, I'm going to give you a million dollars.
He goes to you and says, I am going to take your children from you unless you sell your soul to me.
I well, that's you know, it's it's Are you worried about your children's food and shelter?
Serve evil and your children will not go hungry.
That's the deal with the devil.
Something you can't ignore.
The deal with the devil is your mom is sick and she's dying and it's serve evil and I will take care of your mother.
Serve evil, just like in the story of the guy getting the helicopter.
It is worldly.
It is not magic.
And that's what we're looking at right now.
The people that are willing, these cops, all of them that are working in these courts, they don't know and they don't care.
And I blame them too, each and every one.
I reject, I reject this argument from conservatives.
Those cops didn't do anything wrong.
Yeah, they did. 100%.
If I was a cop in New York and they said, we are going to have a trial or Donald Trump and all that, and they want you to be there.
No.
I hear this argument where it's like, but maybe the cops are thinking they can keep Trump safe and help him.
I'm like, no, you're facilitating criminal proceedings.
And I don't mean the literal criminal proceedings.
I mean, the proceedings are criminal.
You are a part.
You are the private army of communists.
And I say, no forgiveness.
None.
I do not accept this.
We have people come on TimCastIRL and they're like, you can't blame the cops, Tim.
You know, they're just doing their job.
Don't care.
Your platitudes, they mean nothing to me.
Your politicking means nothing to me.
I would see every NYPD officer persona non grata.
And I hold that.
CBP agents nearby saying, oh yeah, they're fans of IRL.
I don't want your fanship.
Don't watch my show.
Cancel your memberships.
CBP is facilitating child sex slavery on the border.
And there are people who are like, but I'm not doing that, I'm just part of the machine that enables it.
Imagine this.
A giant bulldozer, running children over and just smashing their little bodies.
And you're like, look man, I'm just in the back shoveling coal.
I have nothing to do with steering this towards children.
It's like, well you do realize, you are a component of the machine that could not exist without you.
Make the argument that if I wasn't here, someone else would do it?
Sure.
But I just don't understand this argument where it's like... It's absolutely crazy to me.
Sheriff's departments tend to be pretty good because they're elected.
And there is politics involved for sure, but smaller town cops tend to do a great job.
The cops we've got out here?
They're great.
But you want to talk about Chicago, NYPD, these big blue Democrat cities?
These guys don't know and they don't care.
These guys, they signed the deal with the devil.
They would take that paycheck, and think about what that really means.
They will face eternal damnation.
Maybe they don't believe in it, and that's the reality.
Maybe you do.
If you are religious, and I assume many of these men are, I see nothing for them but eternal damnation.
They sold their souls to the devil.
They wanted their paycheck, they keep their mouths shut, and the idea is that good men have done nothing.
Maybe that's the reality.
Nobody believes anymore.
I really do wonder what happens when we die.
I'm not a Christian.
I do believe in God.
I do believe there is a greater beyond all of this in some fashion.
And I truly wonder.
I do believe that there is a decent probability of something akin to a judgment.
I don't know for sure.
It's hard to know.
It's impossible.
Could just be my Christian upbringing.
But reading about—my views on religion and everything are rooted in growing up Catholic, becoming an atheist, reading about science and physics and philosophy, and then realizing that the conclusion is high probability of God.
And for a variety of reasons, there is, I believe, to be some form of judgment in some way.
Maybe I'm wrong, because I don't know everything.
But I can certainly just imagine those that would stand by and allow children to be sex-trafficked into slavery.
And it's remarkable.
I don't, I just, I don't get it.
I really don't.
People who work for Customs and Border Protection, knowing that CBP is doing this, and saying, yeah, but I'm part of a different division, so I don't care.
It's just like, that's insane to me.
I couldn't do it.
I absolutely couldn't do it.
I would live in a mud hut, eating twigs and berries, before I joined an organization that in any way facilitated that kind of thing.
I would live under a bridge.
I would live in the tundra, eating mud and moss, before I would facilitate a criminal proceeding like this, as an officer or otherwise.
I wouldn't do it.
Certainly there are many people that would.
Whatever.
I don't know what to tell you, man.
I'm just some dude who complains on the internet, so you don't gotta listen to a word I have to say.
I'm not these cops.
I'm not in CBP.
Whatever.
I suppose, for now, we just wait for the updates.
We wait to see the move Trump makes.
I believe Trump must be at the Supreme Court.
I believe he should go.
I want to see what happens if they actually try to arrest him over this.
Heck of a headline.
New York arrests former President Trump for attending Supreme Court oral arguments.
I'll leave it there.
Next segment is coming up at 1pm on this channel.
Thanks for hanging out and I'll see you all then.
Many of the January 6th defendants received a charge under the obstruction statute, stating that they obstructed an official proceeding.
Right now, the Supreme Court is debating the issue with the Solicitor General.
And oh boy, it's getting interesting.
The conservative justices ain't playing no games, basically saying the far left comes in, storms into these courtrooms, screams, yells, and disrupts proceedings.
People pull fire alarms, shutting down the vote.
How are they not getting charged?
And of course, the Solicitor General, trying to defend the two-tiered system of justice that exists, can't muster up anything sane.
This is wild.
Many people believe that when the Supreme Court rules on this, they will likely strike down the use of this obstruction law, and it will effectively exonerate.
I don't even know if exonerate is the right word.
It's a wrong charge.
Many people have the charges completely removed.
Some, according to the New York Times, have already been freed.
And I love this.
They say, rioters.
Freed rioters.
Let me tell you about some of the people who were charged under the obstruction statute.
How about the Q Shaman?
So you had people who rioted at the Capitol.
Fine.
Rioting's bad, you get charged for rioting.
But many of the people, as most of you know, on January 6th, walked into a building with doors open, no barricades, no fences, no broken glass.
That was a lie.
The young Turks, they like to lie.
Cenk Uygur conceded this point, however.
I'm pretty sure we brought it up when he was on the show on the culture war.
And he had claimed that I was wrong.
I said you can't charge someone with trespassing unless you warn them they're trespassing.
So for many of the people on January 6th who showed up after the riot or on the other side of the building, what did they see?
There's no barricades, there's no broken glass, there's open doors.
And they walk in waving little American flags, and there were even cops saying, I agree with it, taking selfies, hugging people.
How are you going to charge those people?
Now don't get me wrong, the people who rioted smashed the windows, I get it, charge them.
I want to stress, 20 years though?
Come on!
That's like a couple months, if that.
You can give them a couple months plus house arrest and probation, they won't do it again.
20 years.
I want to play for you some of this exchange.
That, uh, it's a bit long, but you really need to hear it because it is amazing.
Right around the one minute mark of this clip, this is Millennial Other posting this, showing how the Supreme Court is not having these ridiculous arguments.
I gotta play this one for ya.
I don't know how long we have to go, but it's such a tremendous and great exchange.
It's ten minutes long.
I don't know if we'll get through the full ten minutes, but listen to this.
unidentified
...relationship between C1 and C2 and make clear that C2 does not cover the conduct that's encompassed by C1.
Now, I acknowledge that there were... Beyond that, beyond that, beyond saying, okay, C1 does some things and the whole rest of the universe of obstructing, impeding, or influencing is conducted by C2.
Is that a fair summary of your view?
Yes, but there was a good reason for Congress to do it this way.
It traces to the statutory history.
So what does that mean for the breadth of this statute?
Would a sit-in that disrupts a trial?
Or access to a federal courthouse qualify?
Would a heckler in today's audience qualify or at the State of the Union address?
Would pulling a fire alarm before a vote qualify for 20 years in federal prison?
tim pool
That, of course, is Justice Neil Gorsuch saying, uh, should Bowman, for pulling the fire alarm, taking down the warning signs, go to prison for 20 years.
Of course he shouldn't.
He should get removed from Congress, however, but let's continue.
unidentified
There are multiple elements of the statute that I think might not be satisfied by those hypotheticals, and it relates to the point I was going to make to the Chief Justice about the breadth of this statute.
The kind of built-in limitations are the things that I think would potentially suggest that many of those things wouldn't be something the government could charge or prove as 1512c2 beyond a reasonable doubt.
would include the fact that the actus reus does require obstruction, which we understand to be a meaningful
interference.
So that means that if you have some minor disruption or delay or some minimal outburst, we don't think it falls
within the actus reus to begin with.
My outbursts require the court to reconvene after the proceeding has been brought back into line, or the pulling
of the fire alarm, the vote has to be rescheduled, or the protest outside of a courthouse makes it inaccessible for a
period of time.
Are those all federal felonies subject to 20 years in prison?
So, with some of them, it would be necessary to show nexus.
So, with respect to the protest outside the courthouse, we'd have to show that, yes, they were aiming at the proceedings.
Yeah, they were trying to stop the proceedings.
Yes.
And then, we'd also have to be able to prove that they acted corruptly.
And this sets a stringent mens rea.
It's not even just the mere intent to obstruct.
We have to show that also.
But we have to show that they had corrupt intent in acting in that way.
We went around that tree yesterday.
I know, I heard the argument yesterday, but I guess what I would say is that to the extent that your hypotheticals are pressing on the idea of a peaceful protest, even one that's quite disruptive, it's not clear to me that the government would be able to show that each of those protesters had corrupt intent.
So mostly peaceful protests that actually obstructs and impedes an official proceeding for an indefinite period would not be covered?
Not necessarily, we would just have to have the evidence of intent, and that's a high bar.
They intend to do it, alright.
Yes, if they intend to obstruct and were able to show that they knew that was wrongful conduct with consciousness of wrongdoing, then yes, that's a 1512c2 offense.
What does corruptly add in your view?
So, corruptly adds the requirement that the defendant's conduct be wrongful and committed with consciousness of wrongdoing.
And this traces to the court's decision in Arthur Anderson, where the court said this is a term with deep historical roots, with a settled meaning, and that it connotes not just knowledge of your actions, which is, you know, the intent to obstruct in this case, but further requires that it be done corruptly.
And just to give you a more concrete example of how this has played out in the January 6th prosecutions, I'd point to the jury instruction in the Robertson case,
which we refer to and quote in part on page 44 of our brief.
There the jury was instructed that in order to show the defendant acted corruptly, the
jury had to to conclude that he had an unlawful purpose or used unlawful means or both, and
that he had consciousness of wrongdoing.
So I think that that is an encapsulation of what the jury is asked to decide on top of
the mere intent to obstruct.
tim pool
Every single leftist right now should be screaming at this woman who is basically saying any
protest ever is a 20 year felony charge, which is laughably insane.
Well, when it comes to the sit-ins, it has to be done corruptly.
Let me tell you something.
This would mean that all direct action meetings for the left, ya gone.
Why?
Because in direct action meetings where these far-left protesters plan these events, they instruct you on what to do when you get arrested.
Meaning, you are informed beforehand.
You are doing something wrong and you will go to jail.
Uh-oh.
Greenpeace told me it was a badge of honor to get arrested.
Don't worry, they got good lawyers.
This would mean that any protest ever is going to fall in line with this.
Absolutely ridiculous argumenting from the U.S.
Solicitor General.
Now, I want to stress this.
When it comes to the New York Times, they specifically mention the QAnon shaman.
The charge has been used so far against more than 350 rioters, including Jacob Chansley, the so-called QAnon shaman, and members of the far-right extremist group the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers.
I don't know that the Q shaman, as they give this example, rioted at all.
I know there's video of him being escorted by police.
Uh-oh!
You got a problem, lady.
And you know, I wonder if the other side argued this.
As it pertains to Jacob Chansley, who was charged for obstruction, Well, videos show the police providing him guidance through the building.
Certainly, he did not know he was doing anything wrong when the police actually showed him where to go and opened the door for him.
You know what?
Let me make sure I, uh...
I'm gonna make sure I pull that one up, because I know there may be people on the left who are like, that never happened, you're lying.
That never happened.
Oh, here we go.
Let me just pull up the video footage for you to make sure y'all get this one.
Because, uh, here we go.
New York Post, January 6th footage shows Capitol cops escorting QAnon shaman to Senate floor.
Alright, let's play it.
Do they have the video right here?
There he is.
He's yelling.
He's standing there.
There he is!
Jacob Chansley, the QAnon shaman, they call him, with his A helmet or whatever?
Alright, are they gonna play the footage?
Here we go.
So here's the police.
Everyone's walking fairly calmly.
And, uh, here's the Q Shaman.
Got a couple of cops taking a walk right alongside him.
He's walking around.
They're right behind him.
I know, I know you're saying, hey Tim, those cops are behind him.
Don't worry, don't worry.
Keep watching.
The cops come around the corner and there's a door.
The police are now in front and try to open the door.
Doesn't open.
The Q Shaman then follows the officers.
This is great.
He is now being given an escort with multiple police officers standing around, not a single one of them trying to stop him.
He walks past all these cops.
I mean, how is this guy supposed to know he's doing anything wrong?
And here we are, good sir, right this way.
Please, let me show you the door.
Here you are.
Come on inside.
No one stopped him.
Thank you, Heavenly Father, for taking the inspiration needed to these police officers to allow us into the building.
That's what he said.
That's what he said.
I just showed the video.
Because I'm sick of this.
You go to these people and say, what do you think about the cops giving the escort to the Q Shaman and walking him through the building?
He walks past all these cops, nobody cares.
And then he thanks them for allowing him in the building.
unidentified
That never happened!
tim pool
That never happened!
He got an obstruction charge.
How is this man supposed to know that anything he did was wrong?
That's her argument.
Let me play more from this audio because it gets better.
unidentified
General, let me give you a specific example, which is picks up but provides a little bit
more detail with respect to one of the examples that Justice Gorsuch provided.
So we've had a number of protests in the courtroom.
Let's say that today, while you're arguing or Mr. Green is arguing, five people get up
one after the other and they shout either, keep the January 6th insurrectionists in jail
or free the January 6th patriots.
And as a result of this, our police officers have to remove them forcibly from the courtroom.
And let's say it delays the proceeding for five minutes.
And I know that experienced advocates like you and Mr. Green are not going to be flustered by that, but you know, in another case, an advocate might lose his or her train of thought and not provide the best argument.
So would that be a violation of 1512C2?
I think it would be difficult for the government to prove that.
Why?
At the outset, we don't think that 1512C2 picks up minimal, de minimis, minor interferences.
We think that the term obstruct on its face connotes a meaningful interference with the proceeding.
Well, it doesn't say, I'm sorry, C2 does not refer just to obstruct.
It says obstructs, influences, or impedes.
tim pool
Influences.
unidentified
Impedes is something less than obstructs.
I think that this is a verb phrase where iteration was obviously afoot.
You're preaching the plain meaning interpretation of this provision.
The plain meaning of impede in Webster's is to interfere with or get in the way of the progress of, to hold up.
In the OED, it is to retard in progress or action.
By putting obstacles in the way.
So it doesn't require obstruction.
It requires the causing of delay.
And if this court... So again, why wouldn't that fall within... Now, you could say, well, we're not going to prosecute that.
And indeed, for all the protests that have occurred in this court, the Justice Department has not charged any serious offenses, and I don't think any one of those protesters has been sentenced to even one day in prison.
Why isn't that a violation of 512, of 1512c2?
We read the Actus Reis more narrowly.
Now, perhaps you could look at some of the broader dictionary definitions and adopt a broader understanding of the Actus Reis.
Still, there would be the backstop of needing to prove corrupt intent.
I think that's a stringent mens rea.
Well, that's not a corrupt intent.
It's wrongful.
Do you think it's not wrongful?
I could imagine defendants in that scenario suggesting that they thought they had some protected free speech right to protest.
They might say that they weren't conscious of the fact that they weren't allowed to make that kind of brief protest in the court.
And I think it's in a fundamentally different posture than if they had stormed into this courtroom, overrun the Supreme Court police, required the justices and other participants to flee for their safety, and done so with clear evidence of intent to obstruct.
Oh, yes indeed.
Absolutely.
What happened on January 6th was very, very serious.
And I'm not equating this with that.
tim pool
Okay, now let's just pause and I throw it back to the Jacob Chansley video where he's peacefully walking through the halls with cops everywhere.
Not a single one of them tries to stop him or even tell him to leave.
He then thanks the officers for letting him in and they charged him with obstruction.
Spare me.
unidentified
But we need to find out what are the outer reaches of this statute under your interpretation.
Let me give you another example.
Yesterday, protesters blocked the Golden Gate Bridge in San Francisco and disrupted traffic in San Francisco.
What if something similar to that happened all around the Capitol so that members, all the bridges from Virginia were blocked, and members from Virginia who needed to appear at a hearing Couldn't get there, or were delayed in getting there.
Would that be a violation of this provision?
It sounds to me like that wouldn't satisfy the proceeding element, nor the nexus requirement.
Why would it not satisfy the proceeding?
Let's say they want to get to the Capitol to vote.
Well, if we had clear evidence that the purpose of the protesters who had set up the blockage somewhere, some distance away from the court, was because they had a specific proceeding in mind, maybe you have the proceeding, but still, the court has required a nexus, and that's been the requirement in cases like Marinello, Aguilar, and Arthur Anderson, where the court has said it does real narrowing work, because you have to show that the natural and probable effect of the action is to obstruct.
There has to be a relationship in time causation and logic.
I just want to pause and say I feel so bad for this woman.
Because, you know, she's the U.S.
Solicitor General.
And so she has to argue the case for the U.S.
obstruction provisions including in 1503 1505 the tax obstruction statute 72 I
tim pool
just want to pause and say I feel so bad for this woman because you know she's
the US Solicitor General and so she has to argue the case for the US government
but it is a losing case now simply she could say no She could say, you are all corrupt.
I will not bring false charges against these individuals.
And I will stress the point, as I believe it has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
Jacob Chansley was peacefully walking the halls.
There were police all around him.
In one instance, you see the cops are behind him.
Later, you see the cops are in front of him and try to open a door for him.
Later, you see they bring him to a room where he thanks them for letting them in the building.
Now, you may argue they were just following him.
He walked through what had to be like, what, 10 to 13 cops?
Not a single one of them said, sir, you need to leave.
You are not allowed to be here.
Explain to me how, with all these cops around, him saying thank you for letting me in, he's supposed to know what he is doing is corrupt or wrong.
He wouldn't.
That's just it.
So your arguments are out the window.
But I want to throw it to our good friends over at the Washington Post who couldn't help but write.
Conservative justices raise examples popular in right-wing media.
It's a cult.
They are a cult.
That's just it.
Right-wing media means information that exists outside of the Washington Post.
These people are deranged.
They are in a cult.
It is a fact, what I just showed you.
It has nothing to do with being popular in right-wing media.
I don't care if it's right, left, up, down, Muslim, Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, Confucianist, don't care.
Is it true?
Okay.
Well, as we know, the argument here from the U.S.
Solicitor General is, if they obstruct knowingly, knowing it is wrong, then 20 years in prison.
Jacob Chansley did not know what he was doing is wrong because the police never told him not to.
He walked into a public building that is normally open to the public.
They argue the protesters who came in or or or Jamal Bowman.
You think Bowman didn't know it was wrong to pull the fire alarm?
You're going to argue that when Jamal Bowman took the warning sign off the door and then pulled the fire alarm, he didn't know what he was doing.
He didn't know it was wrong to do that.
Laughably absurd.
Here's what they write.
Conservatives in the Supreme Court challenge Solicitor General Elizabeth B. Preligar with a host of questions that echo right-wing media who argue that the January 6th prosecutions are partisan.
Among the cases raised, pro-Palestinian protesters blocking roads across the country, Rep.
Jamal Bowman pulling a fire alarm in the Capitol just before a vote, and protests against Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation.
Those examples were brought up in amicus briefs from conservative lawmakers and advocacy groups who argue that the obstruction law is being used unfairly against the right but not the left.
In all those cases, Prahladgar said, it would be a challenge to prove the required intent to block a specific proceeding from happening, or to prove that the disruption was extensive enough to count as obstruction.
In the January 6th cases, the government has relied on social media posts and text messages, where rioters described their goal of stopping the vote count from taking place.
They have also emphasized that Congress was forced to evacuate the building, which has not occurred during the other protests inside the building.
And I don't know if this lady actually listened to the arguments, but she simply said, proving the corruption.
It was done corruptly.
And that if the protesters who came in to shut down impede, or otherwise, as the Supreme Court just as pointed out, it's not just obstruct, it says to impede.
Well, they would have to just know that they were doing something wrong.
Yeah.
Every leftist, Your protests are on the chopping block.
And I'm surprised we're not seeing more from left-wing organizations to shut this one down.
You're still going to get convictions in other areas for the J6ers.
But this one right here means, if at any point a protester has a meeting where they discuss the potential of arrest, now they are facing 20 years.
And they will charge you.
And they'll say to you, Did you know that you could be arrested doing this?
Yes.
Why do you get arrested when you break the law?
Is breaking the law wrong?
Well, not all laws are good, but you know that the point of laws is to say you can't do this, right?
The law is put in place to prevent something from happening.
Because society as a whole has voted this thing is wrong.
Sometimes laws are bad.
We get that.
So you knew what you were doing was in violation of the law, you knew you would be arrested, and you did it anyway.
20 years!
Is that really what they want?
I'd say yes.
unidentified
And I'll tell you why.
tim pool
In every communist revolution or leftist takeover, the revolutionaries are target number one.
Why?
Because revolutionaries start revolutions.
If the far left succeeds in overthrowing the U.S.
government and they take over, what invariably happens in these circumstances is that people who gain power rapidly begin the executions of all of the leftists.
Let me explain.
People on the right aren't rioting.
So if the left takes over, many of these cops, many of these working class people will say, I will keep my head down and mind my own business.
But the revolutionaries, they're willing to throw bricks at cops.
You can't have that.
You can't have revolutionaries after you've already secured the revolution.
Many of them have to go.
So typically, this is what they do.
They go after liberals and leftists first.
Anyone who could foment revolution.
Now, of course, people on the right get targeted in the conflict, but afterwards, people on the right, right now especially, they ain't doing nothing.
I would not be surprised if that's the goal of these corrupt Uniparty establishment elites.
This will allow them to go after the far left.
Why?
Well, they love Israel.
The far left doesn't.
They are a thorn in the side of the establishment Democrats, and the Democrats need to do something about it.
But you reap what you sow, leftists!
I hope you're ready for this one.
Anyway, this has been amazing, and it looks like it's gonna get struck down.
Many of these J6s will have the charges removed.
Many could be released.
We'll see.
Next segment's coming up at 4 p.m.
on this channel.
Thanks for hanging out, and I'll see you all then.
Over 1,000 African migrants swarm New York City's City Hall over supposedly falsely promised green cards.
Apparently, an activist group told all these people, if you come here, you will get work.
You will get green cards.
Just show up.
And I have to wonder if these leftists are actually secret Trump supporters.
If there's anything that's going to freak out urban liberals, it's videos of a thousand plus illegal immigrants demanding money from the city.
Yeah, they're gonna say, whoa, hold on, what is going on in our city?
Who are these people who are just showing up expecting us to pay for them?
But of course, the left will come out and say, you're racist!
Don't be racist.
I gotta say, man, you know, if this is true about this activist group organizing this, they are trying to get people to vote for Trump.
Or they're trying to get people to vote for Trump so they can then claim the country's races or something.
But I gotta tell you, Democrats are getting fed up with unchecked illegal immigration.
We'll read the story.
I love the New York Post calls them newcomers.
New arrivals, they say.
New arrivals.
Let's play some of the videos.
We have this from Ashley St.
Clair.
It says over 1,000 African migrants have taken over New York City's City Hall, 95% are military-aged men, and many crossed the southern border to get here.
And you can see Ashley walking through New York filming all of this.
We have more videos.
We have this from Libs of TikTok.
What does she say?
Hundreds of criminal aliens, criminal illegal aliens swarming City Hall, protesting housing accommodations.
Here's another one.
Raw's Alerts.
Uh, currently hundreds if not thousands of undocumented immigrants.
I love the varying language here.
We have criminal illegal alien.
We have migrants, we have new arrivals, and we have undocumented immigrants.
And here's more video.
I mean, there's just tons of video.
Here's one from Ashley St.
Clair.
Migrants are now flooding New York City City Hall to protest being moved to shelters instead of luxury hotels.
Well, here's a story from the New York Post.
About 1,300 African migrants gathered outside City Hall Tuesday.
Uh, hoping to appear at a hearing on the black experience in the city shelter system.
With some saying they were promised work visas or green cards if they showed.
Wow.
Only 250 people were allowed inside for the 10 a.m.
hearing, while the hundreds of others who flocked downtown were left outside in a park, where footage showed them chanting and cheering.
The crowd was mostly made up of new arrivals from Guinea in West Africa, and were apparently drawn to City Hall by an activist group, a source told the Post.
Dozens of migrants said they'd been told by others in the community that they could get work visas or green cards if they showed up.
unidentified
This is what they do to these people!
tim pool
I saw this when I was in Europe, covering the migrant crisis there.
These people that came from Sub-Saharan Africa were promised work, visas, permits, and all that stuff, residency, and what they found was slums, drug abuse, and they were left out in the cold.
I got one video.
We interviewed a guy.
He didn't want his face shown.
He was at a shelter in France and he said, I hate it.
It's cold.
I've never, I've never experienced the cold before.
That's pretty wild.
You come from a place that's always warm.
You've never felt cold before.
Seriously, isn't that wild?
Never seen snow!
You go to France in the winter and you're shivering saying, what is happening?
Where are all the things you were promised?
Who's doing this?
You know, these countries in Europe, our country, it's being attacked and destroyed.
And these people, I'm going to tell you, many of them are victims too.
No, I get it.
Many of them are criminal aliens who illegally entered this country.
But the left is telling them that there's jobs for you.
There's free stuff for you.
You will get a work permit.
And they won't.
Look at these photos, man.
Massive.
The City Council's Committee of Immigration and Committee on Hospitals.
Let me tell you what this turns into.
Let me tell you what this means.
and shelters to understand how the Adams administration is addressing language
access barriers, cultural competency challenges, health needs, and other road
blocks. That is the new arrivals face, a press release said.
Ahead of the testimony portion, the committee members heard from the
activists whose work focuses on providing services to African migrants, the
release added. Let me tell you what this turns into. Let me tell you what this means.
This past Last Christmas in Chicago, we have something called the
Christmas market.
That's what they call it.
The Christmas Market.
And they set it up in downtown near the Picasso Sculpture.
If those are familiar.
It's just this big, big lot in Chicago.
And they put up these fences and they set up these little pop-up buildings where you can go in and you can buy all sorts of stuff.
Ornaments and probably funnel cake.
I don't know.
They have the cider.
I believe it's cider.
And everybody gets the Chicago Market mug.
And, you know, I'd been there a couple times when I was a kid.
I went there with my girlfriend and some of her family.
We couldn't get in.
Not easily, at first.
And I actually was like, I'm not going in there.
It was shoulder-to-shoulder impossible.
And my girlfriend was just like, it's never been like this before.
Normally, you just walk in and walk around.
I mean, even in Chicago, a city of millions of people, People come at different times.
You walk around.
It's a little crowded, but for the most part, you walk around.
Now, this time, there was a triple or quadruple layered line.
It took maybe 15 or 20 minutes to actually get into the market, and then you were shoulder to shoulder smashing past people.
It was crazy!
When we got up to, uh, the, uh, I forget what it's called, but they have the mulled- was it mulled wine?
That's what it is, not cider.
It's mulled wine.
And you get a little mug.
And, uh, we could not get any mugs.
Which was disappointing.
For the family.
Because it's a- it's a Christmas tradition!
You go to the market, you get the mulled wine and the little mug, and then you bring the mug home and you put it on your shelf and you collect them.
They were all out.
None left.
Good for business, I guess.
We couldn't help but notice that most of the people that were there were not... were not American.
And what I should say is many of them may be American, but a lot of them were speaking different languages, presumably tourists or immigrants.
And me, I'm pro-immigration.
I'll say that first and foremost.
I'm opposed to illegal immigration.
But this is the reality.
When you come out and say we're overpopulated, when you come out and say there's too many people in our cities already, but then advocate for mass illegal immigration, this is what people begin to experience.
It's no longer your neighbors and community that are showing up to your special traditional events.
It's strangers who are showing up, and they're having a good time, and they're allowed to.
But now, it's hard for us to even get anything done.
It was hard for us to move around and even buy anything, and we walked around a bit, pushing our way through shoulder-to-shoulder traffic.
I mean, it felt really unsafe.
And then ultimately, we were just like, well, that's it.
Let's get out of here and go get some food somewhere.
And it was a good day.
It really was.
We went and got some amazing steakhouse food.
But it was a little bit alarming.
Because this means that the traditions that we once held, they're becoming impossible to attend due to the massive urban crunch.
And you know, there are a lot of people that have called for moratoriums on immigration outright.
I think the problem now is when you look at New York City, when you see these videos from people like Ashley St.
Clair, you see hundreds, if not thousands, of criminal aliens all showing up.
At a certain point, the system will buckle.
These cities are already massively dense.
They already produce too much waste.
Let me tell you.
Let me tell you the problem.
You've got the Malthusians who believe there's too many humans, and we've got to reduce population.
Which is a scary prospect, because it's kind of obvious what that means.
And I think the real issue is population density, not overpopulation.
I think we need more people.
I do.
I think the issue is that in big cities, we smash everybody into the space.
What we need to do is spread everybody out.
And I'll tell you why.
We got a septic system where we're at, and it very much maintains itself.
Not completely, but when done properly, septic systems don't have to be serviced for years.
For, I mean, some people say five, ten years, maybe longer, depending on how well you take care of it.
Because, uh, you know, you got natural systems of processing waste.
In New York, it's a massive reclamation system of massive amounts of waste, hyper-concentrated, and it's causing pollution.
Simply put, the way I explain it, if I let my chickens go in the yard, they'll poop all over the place.
And you know what happens?
The next day, the grass is growing greener and everything has improved.
Because chicken poop breaks down and it fertilizes the grass.
And the grass uses those nutrients and it's the circle of life.
Now, what would happen if I confined all of my chickens into a very, very tight space, and they all took one big dump right in the middle?
Nothing would grow there, probably for a very long time.
The massive amounts of ammonia would pollute the land and make it impossible for nature to reclaim.
It would rain, and it would rain, and it would rain, and it would take some time to wash that all away.
The hyper-concentration of waste creates toxicity problems.
That's what I see when I look to New York City.
I see mass migration.
We need people spreading out, not living in New York demanding handouts.
But the same people who are complaining about climate change and overpopulation are the ones facilitating this.
So what is the outcome gonna be?
Uh, the collapse of cities?
Maybe that's their plan, I guess.
Get as many people as possible into the big cities so that it becomes untenable and then people are forced to flee, breaking the system and forcing people to spread out.
Doesn't really make sense that way because a simple solution would be if you bring in your newcomers, you can simply just settle them in more rural areas.
They don't want to do that.
I don't know what the long game is.
All I know is it's going to be destructive.
I'll leave it there.
Next segment's coming up at 6 p.m.
on the channel.
Thanks for hanging out, and I'll see you all then.
Tax Day has come and gone for many of you.
Some may be filing extensions.
And for those of you that are contractors, of which we're seeing many more, and for those of you that run your own businesses, oh boy, did you just feel the sharp pain of all your hard work being stripped away from you.
You know why our system loves it when you get a job, instead of working for yourself?
When you get a job, and you work, you certainly do see money taken away from your paycheck.
You get it, you see the taxes withheld, and you, at first, go, oh, it hurts!
But for a lot of young people, it is a shock.
Then they get used to it, and they realize, I don't actually make 20 bucks an hour, I make 12.
Because government Uncle Sam is gonna come and take a big cut.
Eventually, they get used to it, and they look forward to tax day.
You know why?
Because the government gives you some of your money back.
But for the people that run their own business, which is what most people should be doing, it's like getting a hand reaching into your chest and squeezing your heart as you're realizing the year ended, this is how much we had made, we're hoping we can use this for reinvesting or something, and then Uncle Sam comes and says, give me that.
In this viral clip, This woman says you spent $20,000 today.
Well, I got news for you, lady.
You spent $20,000 on Ukraine.
I hope you'd enjoy it.
Now, this lady, I'm not saying is a supporter of the war in Ukraine.
I'm saying, this is where your tax money's going.
Now, in reality, modern monetary policy has nothing to do with taking your tax money to pay for things.
It's actually that they'll just print the money to pay for things and then tax you to pull money out of the money supply to deal with inflation.
So, they spent your money long before you gave it to them.
Let me play this clip for you.
You can hear what this lady has to say, and I think it's worth breaking down because she talks more, uh, she talks about more than just taxes.
She talks about the cost of goods.
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I just had $20,000 taken from my bank account.
$14,000 to the IRS, $6,000 to the State of New York.
And while I knew that this was coming, I just have a question.
How are people supposed to survive in this economy?
I've been running my business for eight years, and I've never had to pay this much in taxes.
And granted, maybe we made a little bit more.
I just feel like everything is just going to shit.
I used to pay $400 to fill up my oil tank.
It's now costing me $1,400 to fill up my oil tank.
tim pool
So I'll pause right there real quick.
For a lot of people that don't know, and I know most of you do, I do, but, you know, let's cut some slack to those who don't live in rural areas.
For your heating, people have trucks come and they deliver oil that fill up a tank.
She added a thousand dollars to her costs for heating her home.
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$400 a month for my electric bill.
$5,600 a year for our car insurance.
Two cars.
Not fancy extravagant cars.
Not like 1 million dollar coverages.
We have comprehensive.
We have collision.
No accidents.
No tickets.
We've had this policy for over 20 years.
The taxes on this house?
$18,000 a year.
Do I want to leave New York and Long Island?
In a heartbeat, I would leave like that.
The only reason that we are still here is because of family.
Because my entire family lives within a five mile radius of us.
My kids are very close to their cousins, I'm close to my siblings, my parents, and that's really difficult for us to leave.
How much longer can you actually stick it out?
And I know a lot of people are going to watch this and be like, you have a beautiful house, you have nice cars.
I'm not complaining.
I am very thankful for everything that we have, but I am terrified for my children's future and even for mine and my husband's future.
As a small business owner, when can we retire?
We don't get a pension.
Retirement is saving in our IRA or life insurance.
Am I going to be working until I'm 73 or 74 years old?
My family is more important.
I would rather struggle financially and be around family than be living, you know, with no money worries and being, you know, a thousand miles away from my family.
If our taxes are $18,000 a year now, what are they going to be in five years?
It's not like the county is going to come to us and be like, oh, for every year you're in the house, you're going to get a fucking discount.
They just keep going up.
I'm so thankful.
We don't have credit card bills.
Everything that we do, we do for our children.
I'm working 70 hours a week.
I should be able to be like, you know what?
I want to go on a vacation for a week and a half.
Last summer, we had one vacation booked.
Ocean City, Maryland.
And we ended up canceling it because I'm like, I can't see spending $3,000 to go to Maryland.
Who the fuck has money to even go on vacation?
Maryland!
tim pool
Who has money to even go on vacation?
Well, let's address some of these points.
She doesn't want to leave her family.
She works 70 hours a week.
She is struggling as her costs keep going up.
Right now, she feels comfortable, but she's shocked at how much is being ripped away.
My friends, welcome to the negative pressure environment.
When they went on TV and they said, there's too many people, climate change is a problem.
Did you think they didn't mean it?
It's funny because people can't see the long game and so they don't really care.
Not everybody.
I don't know about this lady.
She's a rural mom.
I'm assuming that she probably votes more conservative or whatever, maybe moderate.
But let me tell you.
Years ago, when they said that the ocean levels were gonna rise and wipe everything out, they were telling you outright, they will take from you.
Your children will not know the luxuries you've had, but oh boy, I'm excited for this one.
When she talks about property taxes.
Ooh, this'll be fun.
Property taxes, you never truly own your house, because you gotta pay property taxes, rent to the government.
And if at any point you don't, they come and take your house away.
I love it because people in the U.S.
like to rag on China.
In China, you can't own land, you can buy a 99-year lease.
You lease the land and have to pay for it, but it's yours for 99 years.
Your kids can be handed the lease, but then once that lease expires, maybe you don't get to keep it.
Well, it is worse than what we have here.
You do get to own the land, sort of, but you gotta pay Uncle Sam his cut.
And if at any point you can't, they take it from you.
So here's what happens.
If you watch Yellowstone, you'll see a good example of what they do.
So in Yellowstone, which unfortunately I believe is cancelled, You have this guy, the Yellowstone Ranch is this massive plot of land and everybody wants his land.
He's had it for seven generations or whatever.
It's massive land.
Well, the government comes and says, you got to pay your property taxes.
And this is a massive plot of land and that property taxes quite a bit.
Here's what you can do.
Sell a piece of the land to pay for the property taxes.
And that's what happens.
See, this is how the game is played.
You can take a look at large plots of land in rural areas, and you'll notice, like, housing divisions.
So, what is fairly common is that 200 years ago, some guy goes and he's like, I stake this here claim in this 25 acres, where I will have a farm and take care of my family.
A few generations later, property taxes start coming in, the counties are forming, all that stuff happens.
And they say, you gotta pay property tax on the value of the property.
And they say, okay, well, we'll take a cut of what we make and we'll sell it and pay the property taxes.
Nowadays, you'll notice that there's subdivisions.
The plot of land that was 25 acres is now 20 acres with five small houses along the side of it.
Why?
Because every year when the government comes and says, you gotta pay property taxes, your land isn't making money.
It's just land you have that, you know, you might grow food on.
But how do you make enough money to pay the government what they want off the value of the land perceived by the market, which has nothing to do with what you can produce on the land?
So they divide off an acre and they sell it to a developer for a couple hundred K. Developer builds a house and sells it.
And then they take that couple hundred K and they give it to the government.
And then every year or so, they're chopping off chunks of the land to try and pay for the land.
And as it gets smaller, the property taxes go down, but the value goes up.
So it stabilizes.
Eventually you lose all of your land.
Eventually your kids inherit it and say, there's no point in having this land.
Why even bother?
And then it's gone.
Now I'll tell you what's going to happen and why I find this just so fascinating.
Property value, I believe, will either skyrocket to the point of being impossible to own or collapse entirely.
Don't know for sure.
I remember looking at buildings in Ukraine when I was covering stories in Kiev.
And I was wondering what the cost of a condo in Ukraine was.
I was like, it's gotta be super cheap in Kiev, right?
These people, their average income was like 400 bucks a month.
And if they're paying 100 bucks a month in rent, it's gotta be like, what, 50k to own a condo or something?
Nope.
300k, 400k, a million.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
No Ukrainian citizen could own that.
And they didn't.
I asked my friends.
How is this possible?
I mean, who could afford to buy these properties?
Why the... The oligarchs.
They own it all.
Yep.
A small handful of ultra-wealthy elites.
They buy up all the property.
The property is poorly maintained.
And the people who live there pay what very little they can pay.
And the oligarchs don't let anybody else buy it.
Nobody wants to sell it.
So where are we going?
Well, for a while I was saying I think what'll happen is once the Boomers die, because all generations die, I'm not trying to be disrespectful, and Gen Xers and Millennials start inheriting these properties, what's going to happen is there's going to be a Millennial who inherits a house, and it's happening now.
They're gonna inherit a $300,000 house in a suburban or rural area.
And they're gonna say, look, I don't live in Indiana, okay?
I live in California.
I don't want to deal with this house.
Can you guys just sell it?
Okay, we'll get a real estate broker, we'll put it on the market.
Nobody buys it.
Why?
Millennials don't have money.
Millennials ain't got no money, so they ain't buying it.
So then they come back and they say, we can't sell it at this price.
And the millennial just says, I don't care!
Like, I inherited this house, okay?
Just how much can I get for it?
And they're like, well, we can drop the price by $10k, $20k, $30k, $40k, $50k.
Housing prices start dropping off because millennials can't afford to buy expensive houses.
And they say, just sell it for what I can get.
You got a cash offer.
It's $200.
$100 less than it's worth.
Well, I don't care.
Just give me the money.
And they'll take it.
Now, I thought that may happen, and that would lead to a massive collapse of property values, because there's not going to be any demand.
But then I realized something else.
With BlackRock and these other companies, no, not so much.
What may happen, and it could go one way or the other, what may end up happening is that When the properties are inherited by young people, they say, put it on the market for $300.
A rich guy who owns 50 properties and can afford it says, eh, sure, I'll take it.
The millennial family, the young guy and girl who want to get a new house for their kids, can't afford it.
So they don't buy it.
The property value stays the same.
The millennial who inherits it says, woohoo!
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$300,000!
tim pool
What should I go do with all my money that I inherited?
And they'll spend it on things, they'll pay rent, but they probably won't own much.
They won't be able to buy anything with that money because that's a rural suburban property and they want to live in a city.
The price may actually go up, even, when they get it because these big companies are willing to pay a premium.
The possibility is... You know, it was, I think it was Tristan Tate?
It might have been Andrew Tate.
Tate Brothers.
Said, the portal is closing.
Get rich now before it's too late.
And they're right.
I completely agree with them.
I call it, uh, breaking the barrier.
It's—'cause it's not about wealth, it's about finding your groove where you're generating enough revenue to, uh, exceed the standard of living, right?
There's beneath the threshold where you struggle every day, and I've been there, where it's like you're playing whack-a-mole with your bills, and then there's the point where you're covering all your bills and you're making slightly more.
I don't think it's necessarily about getting rich.
I call it breaking the barrier, and that means like, I don't know, 80 to 100k?
It's like you finally have a little extra disposable income you can start saving and putting places.
That's the barrier.
For a lot of people, you're struggling because you're like, man, I gotta skip this, we're not gonna eat as much tonight, you know, oh, rent is due, and you're bouncing your bills around trying to stay afloat.
The Tate Brothers were saying, it's getting harder and harder to make money and get rich.
It's getting harder and harder, and the wealthy are getting wealthier, and the poor are getting poorer.
Big corporations are buying up properties, wealthy individuals are buying up properties, young people are just renting, and costs are going up.
The higher costs go, like with what this lady is saying about her filling up her oil and all that, what that means is, and what she's complaining about is, she is sinking.
She's close to the surface right now, and she's like, look, I'm not complaining, like, I'm right here, there are people beneath me.
The challenge, however, is that eventually she will sink to the bottom.
The water level is going up, and you have to keep swimming as fast as you can to get to the top.
For those that have broken the barrier, You are treading water at the surface.
And it's a bit easier, but the water is rising and it's getting harder and harder to stay afloat.
Some people have gone beyond and they've jumped into a boat and now they're just floating straight upward.
And I think that's what the Taits are talking about.
Getting rich to the point where you'll never be poor again.
Andrew Tate tweeted something about spending 10 million on Bitcoin and then making a million dollars in a day, not even thinking about it.
He's like, man, that's crazy.
I just made a million bucks in one day because I bought Bitcoin and sold.
And I don't know if he sold, but he's like, I bought Bitcoin and a lot of people will never make that in, you know, 10, 20, 30 years.
Yeah.
He was like, get rich now because the wealthy are trying to shut it all down.
Which brings me to the end of this video.
What this lady is basically saying and showing us, it's the negative pressure environment.
They want to make it too difficult to live.
They want you to curtail expectations.
They want you to live in a van.
Why do you think van life videos got pumped up in the algorithm?
Don't buy a house, buy a van!
And go live by the water, it's so great you'll enjoy it.
You can't have kids.
I mean, some people probably do if you get a bus or something.
But your costs will be so much lower just living in your van down by the river.
Me?
I'm fairly minimalist.
I would rather do that than sell my principles.
But, it's kind of wild to think about.
A couple hundred years ago, you just build a house somewhere and you start getting food for your family.
You go hunt, you forage, you do work.
It was manageable.
And they had a lot less.
Now, you need so much more to maintain yourself in this system.
A cell phone and a car, they're a must-have.
You can't function in this economy without a vehicle.
Why?
Because the competition.
Used to be that you get a little buggy and you could wheel your cart or get a horse to pull it.
Now, if you do that, someone else has got a car and they can pull their food to town before you can sell yours.
So it's competition.
Technology makes us all compete with each other at higher and higher levels.
It is getting harder to stay afloat.
Eventually, I think what happens is there'll be a cultural break and people will just say, I don't care anymore.
I'm tired of working so hard.
I just want to relax with my family.
And so what do they do?
They'll eat the bugs.
And they'll live in the pod.
And they'll say, it's not so bad.
And then eventually they'll normalize and get used to it and say, you know, my dad lived in the pod and ate the bugs.
And he was proud to have arrested Donald Trump.
Ah, you see, I went there, right?
One day, a generation or two from now, young people are going to say, what's the big deal?
My dad, you know, had a house, but he said we should live in the pot and eat the bugs.
He gladly served.
His oppressors.
Because he knew that one day I'd be happy living in the pot and eating the bugs.
What a sad reality.
That's where we're going.
Tax Day, ladies and gentlemen.
I hope you enjoyed it.
I'll leave it there.
Next segment's coming up at 8 p.m.
over at YouTube.com slash TimCastIRL.
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