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Democrat Wins MORE VOTES For Speaker Than GOP McCarthy In HISTORIC Failure For Republicans

Democrat Wins MORE VOTES For Speaker Than GOP McCarthy In HISTORIC Failure For Republicans. LIVE As House vote FAILS again. Not since 1923 has such a failure occurred #democrats #republicans #speaker Become A Member And Protect Our Work at http://www.timcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just had to go live right away for this one.
		Jim Jordan is currently speaking.
		I'll turn the volume up on this one just a little bit.
		But the breaking news, Hakeem Jeffries, a Democrat, has won more votes for Speaker of the House than House Leader Kevin McCarthy.
		I've been laughing non-stop.
		Sorry, I don't care.
		I'm just gonna come out and say it.
		I know there's a lot of Republicans.
		I have a lot of friends who are Republicans.
		They're upset about this.
		They're saying, man, the Republicans can't get things together.
		That's true.
		That's true, let me tell you guys.
		This is a historic, and historic?
		This is a massive failure for the Republicans right now.
		Jim Jordan is currently speaking because several of the Republican defectors have voted for Jim Jordan instead of Kevin McCarthy.
		Okay!
		Let me just cut right into it.
		They're all standing up.
		They're cheering for him.
		There's going to be another roll call vote.
		That's why I'm doing this segment live.
		I sat through the first one.
		Five defections from the Republican Party is all it takes to prevent McCarthy from becoming Speaker of the House.
		Here's how it works.
		In order to win the speakership, you need a majority of the votes cast.
		So that means I believe there's 434 votes being cast.
		There's one vacancy.
		And so there's got to be at least, I think, 218 votes.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So they all vote, they calculate the votes, and then they say, Hakeem Jeffries, I think, got 212?
		It might have been 211 votes.
		And McCarthy got, I think, 203.
		No one got a majority of the votes cast, therefore, no Speaker of the House.
		They are now preparing to call a second roll call vote.
		This has not happened in 100 years!
		And you know what?
		I'm going to say this.
		I want to say this.
		Shout out to Matt Gaetz, to Lauren Boebert, and of course, many, many others who stood firm and said no to Kevin McCarthy.
		I'm happy.
		I am.
		Look, I'm going to say it.
		I was getting into it.
		There's a lot of friends that I have that are Republicans, that are conservatives, that didn't want to see this happen.
		They wanted McCarthy to be Speaker of the House.
		They wanted They wanted the concessions.
		They wanted a little victory.
		And I can respect that.
		However...
		I am not a Republican.
		I am not even a MAGA guy.
		Sort of.
		I think Make America Great Again is totally fine.
		I have not been the biggest Trump supporter, but I think Trump's better than what we have.
		No, I am a moderate, middle-of-the-road guy who wants to see change.
		And it ain't Kevin McCarthy.
		Because in 2016, when Trump was coming in, he was never Trump.
		He was opposed to Trump.
		He worked with the GOP to stop Donald Trump.
		Now you've got a lot of people coming- We've got Matt Gaetz speaking.
		I'm gonna go- Let's just play it.
unidentified		Yep.
matt gaetz ▲ ● ▼		What is this?
		and so my colleagues i rise to nominate the most talented hardest working member
		of the republican conference who just gave a speech yet more vision that we
		have ever heard the alternative
		i'm nominating jim jordan jim jordan is humble
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		bravo maggots perhaps today humble to a fault go to tim cast dot com become a member of the support our
		work of the house We're doing this one live.
		This is huge.
matt gaetz ▲ ● ▼		huge. Maybe the right person for the job of Speaker of the House isn't someone who has sold shares of
		themselves for more than a decade to get it. Maybe Jim Jordan is the right person for Speaker of the
		House because he is not beholden to the lobbyists and special interests who have corrupted this
		place and corrupted this nation under the leadership of both Republicans and Democrats.
		Maybe Jim Jordan would be the right person for Speaker of the House because he wouldn't fight us when we try to get a term limits bill on the floor.
		Maybe Jim Jordan would be the right person because he wouldn't fight us when we try to put a balanced budget on the floor and vote for it.
		And maybe Jim Jordan is the right person because he would endorse the plan that was built by the Texas delegation to finally secure our border.
		Mr. Jordan said in his nomination that There are certain bills that we have to pass to fix the problem.
		The challenge is, the alternative has been someone voting for the very bills that have caused these problems.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
matt gaetz ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Jordan says that we cannot accept legislation like the omnibus, and I fully agree.
		And if Jim Jordan were Speaker of the House, if he were the leader of the Republican team, we wouldn't have that circumstance choking the economy of our country, increasing inflation, and diminishing the prospects of a better life.
		For our fellow Americans.
		And finally, Mr. Jordan said we must engage in rigorous oversight.
		Every one of my Republican colleagues knows that the person who can lead that oversight effort, who works on it every day, who has the skill and the talent and the will, is Jim Jordan.
		I'm nominating him and I'm voting for him.
unidentified		All right, all right, all right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		As they start to begin their next roll call vote and everyone's giving their nominations, I just want to say, let me pull this up for you.
		I'm going to break it down for you, okay?
		This hasn't happened in 100 years.
		I don't think I have the article pulled up.
		I tweeted about it.
		The Washington Post, 2016.
		Kevin McCarthy said Trump was being paid by Putin or something to that effect.
		I don't trust the Washington Post necessarily, but one of the biggest complaints right now from so many people, let me see if I should mute that probably, from so many people on the right, Trump supporters, is that McCarthy and the GOP establishment were actively working against real America First candidates.
		Alright.
		Let me tell you where I'm at.
		Here we go.
		We got this in real time.
		The House Speaker votes.
		Let's see if they can sway 19 defectors from the Republican Party.
unidentified		19!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yesterday, on TimCast IRL, we were talking about the potential for this historic failure.
		Luke Rutkowski brings up nine members of the GOP have signed a letter saying they will not support Kevin McCarthy.
		We just saw 19 defections.
		Now that is a sight to behold, and I'll tell you exactly how I feel.
		Donald Trump, I did not vote for him in 2016.
		I was like, this guy's arrogant and buffoonish.
		Get out of here.
		Vote for Trump.
		Not gonna vote for Hillary Clinton.
		You know, I might consider like a Ron Paul vote or something.
		I don't completely agree with Ron Paul.
		He's more right, you know, libertarian than I am.
		But I always say this.
		At least a libertarian will leave me alone.
		Okay?
		Y'all will go do your thing, so I'll take a libertarian.
		Right libertarian, anarchist, whatever.
		Because then I'll do my thing.
		Y'all leave me alone, I'll accept it.
		So I said no to Trump.
		Then what do we see over the next couple of years?
		Donald Trump, he gets in, it's 2017, it's January, he's inaugurated.
		Wins the 2016 election.
		And you get the Republican establishment actively working against him.
		Washington Post reporting that McCarthy said Trump was probably being paid by Russia or Putin or something.
		That exemplifies it so well.
		But I'll tell you this.
		There's not a whole lot I can come out and say about Kevin McCarthy in terms of policy.
		It's more about the Uniparty and the establishment, what the Republicans have represented to me, what they currently represent, and what I see.
		I see the Democratic Party is garbage in its entirety, and it's exemplified here by this vote, and I'll tell you exactly why I would support Republicans.
		First of all, there's a lot of policy positions among Republicans I do like.
		We can see right now the votes are being tabulated.
		We'll see if McCarthy can get the majority.
		He needs 218.
		I don't like what they're doing in schools with kids in these books.
		That's a Republican battle.
		Democrats support it.
		Okay, so Ron DeSantis might be your guy.
		I don't like Democrats' warmonger party.
		Ukraine, dump money, I don't like it.
		Yeah, well, most of the Republicans, half of them support that.
		Here's the issue.
		You've got a dozen plus members of the Republican Party that I think do well.
		Lauren Boebert stood up and said no to McCarthy.
		I respect that.
		Matt Gaetz as well.
		And 17 others.
		I like Thomas Massey.
		I don't know how he's voting.
		He may be voting McCarthy.
		A lot of people are just voting McCarthy because they're willing to take what they call strategy and concessions.
		Look, McCarthy may be establishment, but he's promised to do his oversight hearings, his oversight committees.
		Get out of here, dude!
		I ain't playing that game, alright?
		Let me tell you what I see.
		McCarthy's gonna get in, and then it's going to be routine, uniparty garbage.
		This is a guy who was working against Donald Trump.
		So you think I believe he'll go against Democrats?
		Get outta here.
		So this is the funny thing.
		Hakeem Jeffries actually got more votes than McCarthy.
		And that shows one reason why I don't like Democrats.
		It's not a big reason, but they march in lockstep regardless.
		They're unified.
	You know, I gotta be honest.
	I can respect that.
	But what I like more is reasoned defection.
	Let me explain.
	When Nancy Pelosi was up for the Speaker vote in 2021, you had the squad and AOC.
	You already got two votes for Jordan.
	Three more defections, McCarthy loses again.
	And we're going to watch this happen as I do this.
	Oh, there's Lauren Boebert.
	She has voted.
unidentified		What do we get?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do we get?
		They're just writing it down?
		Boebert stood up and voted for Jordan, it looks like.
		Okay, okay.
		The Squad, AOC, etc.
		They're outright saying, we will not support Nancy Pelosi unless we get these concessions.
		Everybody erupts.
		You've got, I'm pretty sure the Young Turks were like, support Pelosi, what are you, crazy?
		You're gonna get a Kevin McCarthy speaker?
		That's not how it works.
		Progressives were like, what is wrong with you?
		Don't support the machine!
		And I'm cheering him on, I'm like, yes!
		This is what they should be doing.
		But in the end, the squad just gets behind Pelosi.
		And there it is.
		But then you take a look at these individuals.
		So, four votes for Jordan already!
		I'm loving it.
		One more defection, and they're gonna get it.
		And McCarthy loses again.
		Historic moment.
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		Not all of them.
		Because they're here on principle.
		Now here's what we're hearing.
		Again, because I've got a lot of friends who are Republicans.
		They're saying, we want a church committee.
		Okay?
		We want church committee 2.
		That is, we want oversight on the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, the intelligence agencies.
		I'm just waiting for that to tick up for Jordan one more time.
		We want oversight on this.
		I do.
		Luke Rudkowski, one of the first things he asks Boebert when we're at Turning Point USA, he's like, are we going to get a second church committee hearing?
		And I'm like, that's a good question.
		And Lauren's like, we want to see this happen.
		I believe Lauren Boebert is more likely to make something like that happen, because she pushes back on the machine.
		Marjorie Taylor Greene supporting Kevin McCarthy in what a lot of people are saying is a quid pro quo.
		I like Marjorie Taylor Greene a lot.
		We've had her out to the show a couple times.
		She's genuine.
		And I think that's probably it.
		I'm not here to plague at anybody or pander to anybody.
		I think Marjorie Taylor Greene met with McCarthy.
		He said, support me and I will get you on these committees.
		And I don't see anything wrong with that.
		Some people are like, it's a quid pro quo.
		And I'm like, She's supporting McCarthy because he is going to empower her in Congress.
		I can respect it.
		She believes he will.
		No, I tell you what I see will happen.
		Will there be church committee hearings?
		No.
		McCarthy is going to do the bare minimum.
		He's going to be a Democrat going the speed limit.
		He's going to get certain Republicans on certain committees, but not put the right people in the right places.
		You heard what Matt Gaetz just said.
		You get Jim Jordan on there, you will get accountability.
		You put McCarthy up there, you will get an image of accountability.
		So I see Carl in Super Chat saying, I bet a few Democrats come to McCarthy's rescue.
		I was thinking that exact same thing.
		One more defection for round two.
		Historic failure for Republicans.
		It makes me feel good.
		You know why?
		You know why?
		Look, I hate to say it, but it is cathartic.
		1923 was the last time that there was a failure to elect a Speaker of the House.
		And so it went to a second vote.
		They tried doing their rallies.
		Part of me, and I'm going to be honest with you guys, and many people may be mad at me about this, but I'm going to be honest with you guys, it feels good to get revenge.
		In 2016, in 2017-18, Republican establishment worked against Donald Trump, the duly elected president of these United States.
		You don't have to like him, but he won.
		And that's what I see.
		I look at the Second Amendment, okay?
		And I certainly don't think people should have nukes or biological weapons.
		But my argument is, you cannot just arbitrarily decide to change the rules.
		You gotta go through the process.
		We agree on the rules, we play by the rules.
		So what do we get?
		Trump wins, the Republican establishment works against him.
		That pissed me off.
		What do we see now in 2019 into 2020?
		Establishment Republicans worked with Democrats in various states to change the rules.
		They admit to doing this, Pennsylvania being the best example.
	The Republicans go in, they work with Democrats to create universal mail-in voting in defiance to their own Constitution.
	Then, the lower court rules.
	You can't have universal mail-in voting this way.
	Because the Constitution says, here are the parameters by which you can do this.
	And they said, no, no, no.
	Absentee is different from universal mail-in voting.
	Five defections.
	There it is.
	With five defections, McCarthy has once again lost.
	And you know what?
	It feels good.
	It does.
	I think maybe they'll go to a third vote.
	Oh, six defections already.
	Man!
	Jordan's not going to get the votes he needs.
	Jeffries, it would be impossible to win unless Republicans vote for Jeffries.
	But what some people are concerned with is that if a handful of never-Trumper or moderate Republicans vote for Jeffries, you'll get a Democrat Speaker of the House.
	I'm going to be honest with you guys.
	I am not a Republican.
	I have never been a Republican.
	I don't dress like a Republican.
	We show up at Turning Point USA, Ian walks out with purple bell bottoms and his crazy, you know, what was he wearing?
	Like a brown suede jacket.
	Luke is an anarchist, and he's saying, like, the government's been at you.
	People are cheering in the audience for him saying, abolish the FBI.
	We were not the key demo of Turning Point USA.
	Everybody who got up there wore a suit or something like it, or a dress, and there were fireworks and explosions.
	We come out, and we were all relatively different.
	I have always been a centrist, left libertarian type.
	I've never been a big fan of the Republican Party.
	A lot of their positions do not represent my values, but not like the Democrats do either.
	Seven defections right now as we're counting live.
	So when they tell me, when they say, we're going to put up Kevin McCarthy for Speaker of the House, I'm just like, okay, yeah, good luck.
	Dude, I'm not in your corner, okay?
	I come over to you during this culture war with war, With Donald Trump, I say, listen, the media is lying about you guys.
	I don't like the lies.
	I want the truth.
	And they say, thank you for telling the truth, Tim.
	I say, no, you got it, man.
	Look, I know we don't agree on everything, but I'm not going to sit here while they just lie about everything to steal power.
	They come to me and say, we're pro-life, and I say, I hear you, I hear you.
	I'm closer to that than I am to what the Democrats are offering with limitless abortion.
	So I hear you.
	Begrudgingly, I'd rather vote for a Republican in that capacity as much as, because the Democrats aren't offering me anything close to what I would, and I gotta say, When it comes to the issue of abortion, Republicans actually are offering me—I talked to Crowder about this.
	Crowder said, do you think that, you know, abortion is wrong?
	I'm like, yes.
	And he's like, do you think—he's like, would you be willing to accept some concessions?
	And basically what we said was, Crowder was like, we don't like it, we don't want it, but we'll accept some moderation on this one to negotiate with you.
	And I said, OK, you know, OK, deal.
	Right?
	Some exceptions for the health of the mother, for certain circumstances, rape, incest, etc.
	And certain... It's tough.
	Because I don't want the government involved, but I don't like, you know, abortion as contraception.
	But he was like, the Democrats are just saying no restrictions, none whatsoever.
	And I'm like, you're right, you're right.
	So here's my point.
	I, as a centrist, slightly left-leaning individual, I come to the Republicans, along with many other MAGA people, who are in a different space than me, I'm not saying we're in the same space, but we come to the Republicans and we're like, we don't like the Republican Party, you don't represent us, however, we see a unified front on key issues.
	When Trump started getting, he set the timeline for getting troops out of the Middle East, with the Abraham Accords, with getting our troops out of Syria, I was like, that's massive in terms of what I see and I respect.
	When Trump went to North Korea and crossed into the DMZ with no security.
	People, I was livid to see the media, leftists and Democrats insulting Trump over this.
	I've even heard conservatives say, talk about so stupid, you know, placating.
unidentified		No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You don't bring that to me.
		When Donald Trump crossed into the DMZ, I nearly cried.
		I'm like, this is a U.S.
		president crossing into enemy territory.
		There is still a war going on.
		And I have family tracing back to Korea.
		And you guys know this.
		And so when I saw the U.S.
		President, Donald Trump, say, Security, stand back.
		I'm walking in here.
		They could have captured him.
		They could have taken him.
		But he did that as a sign of trust.
		And I was so impressed by that.
		So I'm willing to support that.
		With all of Trump's faults, I tell you.
		Then I see everything they did to hurt and stop Trump and I'm like, these people don't represent me.
		McCarthy doesn't represent me.
		He's never represented me.
		I'm not gonna vote for him.
		I'm not gonna support him.
		I get it.
		The Republican Party winning the speakership is substantially better.
		McCarthy winning is a lot better than Jeffries.
		But you expect me, someone who doesn't trust you, who doesn't like a lot of your positions, to get behind?
		It's not going to happen.
		I'm sorry, it's just not.
		But I'm not going to rag on Marjorie Taylor Greene or anything like that.
		I'm just like, oh yeah, good luck, you know?
		Good luck.
		I don't speak for any of you who are watching.
		We all have very different backgrounds, very different political opinions.
		Many of the people watching I see in the chat are saying Trump for Speaker, they're saying this is bad, Alan West.
		I see in the chat a lot of people are MAGA, a lot of people are, you know, hey look, Republicans, you just win no matter what.
		I got no beef with you.
		I'm not going to tell you what to believe.
		I'm going to tell you this.
		I am a moderate, and I come to the Republican Party when they offer up something that matters.
		And that is, like I said, Abraham Accords.
		That was Trump.
		You know, the attempts with North Korea, a lot of the stuff Trump did, I liked.
		You know, Luke will come out and say, yeah, what about drones and all that stuff, and I'll be like, I get it, man.
		But I gotta tell you, when it comes to the issue of foreign policy, Trump is the best I have seen in my life.
		Hands down.
		Period.
		Don't even bother arguing with me.
		No, you're not gonna be able to do it.
		Barack Obama blown up weddings.
		Now, don't get me wrong.
		Under Donald Trump, we did have more drone strikes, but the strategy there was we pull our troops out and we keep the drone strikes up to prevent Taliban or, you know, or other terror groups or other insurgency from taking hold.
		Joe Biden destroys all of that with a surrender in Afghanistan.
		Abandoning Bagram Air Force Base.
		I don't like these people.
		I am not going to enthusiastically support Kevin McCarthy.
		So I'll put it this way.
		Maybe the Republicans needed this reckoning.
		That's it.
		Maybe they need to be told, you are not the elite anymore.
		They sabotaged candidates who actually would have helped this country.
		Look at Blake Masters.
		The GOP establishment was nowhere to be found.
		Masters is a good dude.
		I like that guy.
		We had him on the show.
	Now I think he leans more to the, let's just try and get the victories we can.
	But I'm not a Republican.
	I can say it 800 billion times.
	So I sit back and I see this and I'm like, you know what?
	I think it's good that Republicans, you got eight votes for Jim Jordan now.
	I think it's good that Republicans are being told outright, you are not the elites.
	You do not control us.
	And what you need to realize, let me tell you my friends, When I went to the Deplora Ball, and I'm like, I wonder what it's gonna be like?
	You know, like, I'm not a Trump supporter.
	I actually have a lot of disdain for the man.
	This is back 2019, right?
	Or, I'm sorry, 2017.
	He's about to get inaugurated.
	And I'm laughing, and I'm like, I'm in love with the guy.
	And then I see two people come up to me with MAGA hats on, and they're like, Tim, we're big fans.
	And I was like, really?
	I didn't realize I had Trump supporters who are fans.
	And they're like, no, no, no, we're Occupy Wall Street.
	And I was like, you're Occupy Wall Street here?
	Trump supporters?
	Like, whoa, well, Occupy Wall Street was lefty.
	Not completely, no, no, no, no.
	They said, we wanted our borders secure.
	We wanted immigration solved.
	We wanted accountability for the big banks.
	The only candidate who offered that up was Donald Trump.
	Trump even came out and criticized pro-lifers recently.
	He is not this extremist.
	He is a moderate.
	And the Republican establishment fought him and tried to stop him.
	So I come to the Republican Party not as a suit-wearing pro-life religious individual who believes in the Republican Party.
	I come to vote Republican because of shared issues.
	That's 2020.
	Now, they're telling me to get in line and support the establishment.
	And I'm like, no, no, look, you guys go do your thing.
	Marjorie Taylor Greene has been advocating very heavily for McCarthy.
	Go do your thing, by all means.
	I like Marjorie Taylor Greene.
	I'm not going to tell you guys who or what to support.
	I'm going to tell you exactly how I feel.
	Nine votes, not for Jim Jordan.
	He's getting more votes, that's great!
	A shout out to Matt Gaetz.
	Look, the way I see it is, the Republicans need people like me, and many of you who are more moderate, who have not traditionally been Republican, who are typically independent, but they're not actually willing to offer us anything.
	They're willing to say, here are the issues that we agree on, everything else I won't negotiate, I won't compromise on.
	And you know what?
	I'm not going to ask them to.
	I am not the kind of guy who's going to go into someone else's house and say, change for me.
	I'm going to say, look, It's your party if... It's up to 10 now.
	Jim Jordan, 10 votes.
	If I go to someone else's house or business, I'll put it this way.
	I worked for Vice.
	Vice didn't do things for me that I wanted them to do.
	I didn't go in and throw a fit and throw chairs and be like, this is BS, you gotta do this.
	I went to the boss and said, look, Here's what I'm looking for, and here's what I can offer you.
	We agreed on these terms.
	I do not feel that you're fulfilling our end of the bargain.
	They said, we'll try.
	They gave me a little bit more money.
	It wasn't going so well.
	And so I said, with respect, it's your company.
	You guys should do your thing.
	Thank you so much.
	I'm out.
	I am not the kind of person who wants to go into someone else's house and tell them how to run their show.
	Nah, I'll go do my thing.
	And that's why I run my own company.
	With the Republican Party?
	I'm not gonna tell you guys who to support.
	If you guys want McCarthy, I totally get it.
	Will Chamberlain?
	Good friend.
	He's been advocating for McCarthy non-stop.
	I totally understand why.
	He's a conservative Republican guy.
	He likes McCarthy.
	McCarthy has offered a lot of really good things.
	Don't get me wrong.
	Me?
	I'm an anti-establishment guy.
	I don't care if they're Republican or Democrat.
	I'm not going to advocate for any of these people.
	In fact, I'm not even the biggest advocate for Jim Jordan.
	But I have to say, I agree with Matt Gaetz.
	Jim Jordan would do a better job Of bringing accountability than Kevin McCarthy would.
	Hands down.
	Look, I'll just tell you guys, I'm sitting here, it's the beginning of the new year, and I'm looking at all the news, a bunch of stories today, and we get January 3rd, a historic day, the vote for the Speaker, Jim Jordan now up to 11 votes!
	How many defectors are we going to see by the end of this?
	And I'm watching this go down, and it's a bit esoteric, you know?
	And I'm wondering, how much do the average person really care about this?
	Probably not a lot of people.
	Like, we're politicos.
	We pay attention to this stuff.
	But this is big.
	A rebuke of the Republican establishment, if only 19 votes.
	That makes me laugh.
	I was cheering for the squad to rebuke Nancy Pelosi.
	They didn't do it!
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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I wanted them to. I don't look. I wanted I wanted them to push back when.
		When AOC won her primary against Crowley, I laughed and I cheered.
		And I said, good!
		Look, I don't like AOC's politics.
		And over the past few years, it's very different from when she won back then to now.
		Now I think she's duplicitous and part of the machine.
		But I'm watching this go down and I'm like, good.
		Push back.
		Shut him down.
		It's time to get the incumbents out of there.
		Some people have called for term limits.
		I don't know.
		I don't know if term limits solve the problem because I like that Ron Paul was in for like, you know, what was it, like 11 terms or like 14 or some ridiculous number?
		Any politician who goes up there and says, here's all my positions, and then gives a whole bunch of positions I don't agree with, but then says, but don't worry, I'm not going to tell you what to do.
		I'm like, okay.
unidentified		Alright, we got an agreement here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, me and Luke don't agree on policy positions.
		He's very anarchist.
		He says, if you believe in the Parks Department, you're a communist.
		And I'm like, if this guy's whole position is he's going to leave me alone, he'll get my vote over any of these other people.
		Because we can't all agree on everything.
		But I'm not an anarchist.
		So, you know, I don't completely agree.
		But I just gotta say, it feels to me like the Republican Party doesn't understand that what Donald Trump did was brought moderates and independents into the fold.
		But that means you cannot play inside baseball.
		You cannot just keep things going as usual.
		You cannot kick Trump out and then think you'll retain any of that electoral power.
		That's just it.
		They narrowly won in the midterms by only a handful of seats.
		What, like five seats they got for the majority?
		Four seats?
		They needed, yeah, they needed, what, 218 for the majority, and they got 222, I think it was.
		And narrowly, in some places, Lauren Boebert almost lost.
		There's a lot of questions about that.
		I think ballot harvesting played a big role.
		But this means it is moderate, middle-of-the-road people who helped you out.
		And this is what we've been saying for a while.
		You know, you can come out and talk about why Kevin McCarthy should win all day and night, and I'm just gonna say, like, you guys, if you didn't have the moderates who defected from Democrats, you wouldn't have this at all anyway.
		If you think you're going to come out with an establishment guy who's been in for 14 some odd years or whatever, you're not going to get us.
		You're not going to get me.
		Again, I don't want to speak for anybody else.
		So I'm going to sit here for a few minutes.
		We're going to watch this one live.
		I'll take your Super Chats because this is a special historical live show we're doing here.
		Beginning of the year, second show of 2023, and we've got a historic moment.
		Jim Jordan with 11 votes, meaning Kevin McCarthy will not have the votes needed to win.
		I'll read some of your chats.
		We got Kurt Steven, he said, Marjorie Taylor Greene flipped because she doesn't want to have a Democrat speaker.
		You know, I heard that with Nancy Pelosi and the squad.
		Cenk Uygur was like, if you don't support Nancy Pelosi, then you're gonna get a Kevin McCarthy speaker.
		It's impossible.
		It's literally not possible.
		With the minority.
		The Republicans did not have enough votes in their entirety to win the Speakership.
		In order to win the Speakership, right now, for Akim Jeffries to win, Republicans would have to vote Democrat.
		I do not see that happening.
		Republicans are just splitting their vote between McCarthy and Jordan.
		So, right now, what happens?
		Another vote.
		Not since 1923.
		So, I suppose we'll see.
		But that's what they were saying to the squad.
		Don't stand up to Nancy Pelosi, because then a Republican will win.
		They can't.
		The Democrats can withhold their vote, or they could have voted for Jeffries against Pelosi.
		But they play ball.
		I'm not that kind of guy.
		Look, I never would want to be in Congress.
		But if I went in there, and they play these games, they're like, you're a freshman, you know, you don't get to do these things, you don't get to be in these committees.
		Maybe.
		I remember, you know, they talk about how... Ilhan Omar.
		She says these things about the Benjamins and dual loyalties and gets accused of anti-Semitism and all that stuff.
		And then they do this general condemnation of hate.
		Marjorie Taylor Greene, for posts she made a long time ago, gets booted off her committees.
		You think I'm interested in your games and your machine?
		I ain't.
		If I got into Congress, none of you would want me to be your rep.
		Because I'd do two things.
		I was thinking about this.
		I would set up a table and a little booth in the center of the district, and I would spend most of my time there.
	And I would just be like, any one of my constituents can come talk to me about anything.
	And then if I went to D.C.
	for these votes, I would say, I'm here to represent my district, not one half or the other, and that means we gotta have a conversation back home about our compromise, but I will make leadership decisions, and I'm not playing by your stupid rules.
	Okay?
	You're not going to tell me what I have to wear.
	You're not going to tell me what I can and can't say.
	I'm not playing your stupid games.
	This is not... You can't have a big box where you're like, we're a government of, for, and by the people, but I decide the rules.
	You can't.
	No, okay.
	Well, I'll come here and tell you what my district thinks.
	And if my district wants someone who's gonna play ball, bend the knee and kiss the pinky ring, they can vote for it.
	That's why I'm like, you probably wouldn't want me in Congress, because I would go up there, I'd say, I'd vote no on everything.
	I would just be like, nope.
	And they'll be like, should we send more money to you?
	Nope.
	Should we, you know, nope.
	Should we raise the, nope.
	I'd just be like, get out.
	I'm not an anarchist.
	But I just, I reject the ridiculous inside baseball.
	They come and they say, vote for McCarthy.
	Why?
	But he's the party leader.
	He's the house leader.
	I don't care.
	I don't care what you think.
	I don't care who you think should be in charge and how many of these Republicans who just got elected are like, look, I don't want to go up against McCarthy because I'll lose my committee assignment.
	I don't care.
	So if Marjorie Taylor Greene is supporting Kevin McCarthy because she's concerned about losing committee assignments, that's her deal.
	Me personally?
	I'd give him the middle finger.
	Matt Gaetz came out and he said they were threatened with losing committee assignments unless they got behind Kevin McCarthy.
	I like Matt Gaetz, man.
	That's a good job on him.
	Rep McCarthy does not have the votes.
	Third speaker vote expected.
	Yep.
	McCarthy should bow out.
	Endorse Jim Jordan.
	You know why?
	This is what pisses me off.
	Marjorie Taylor Greene came out and said the Never Kevin people have no plan.
	They just don't like Kevin McCarthy.
	And I'm like, well, Kevin McCarthy accused Trump of being funded, paid by, paid by Putin or something.
	That's one thing.
	Maybe it's not true.
	Maybe Wapow lied.
	Fine.
	Whatever.
	But the Republican establishment, including McCarthy, they worked against Trump.
	Why would I support him?
	If you lose your committee assignments, so be it.
	But here's what I was going to say.
	The only reason these people are getting behind McCarthy is because they fear that.
	But that means the power, the ideology, and the core is with Jim Jordan.
	Jim Jordan now has 12 votes.
	McCarthy does not have the votes.
	If Jim Jordan wins, y'all are safe.
	You keep your assignments.
	In fact, you'll get better ones.
	If McCarthy wins, he's going to boot you.
	He's not going to give you what you want.
	You're not going to get the accountability.
	He's going to say, no, no, we shouldn't go after Joe Biden.
	I know.
	He said they'll investigate.
	I don't believe him.
	It's going to be inside baseball.
	It's going to be the predicting.
	Are you still there?
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	Resume playback.
	We want to watch what's going on.
	I'm watching you, C-SPAN.
	We're watching.
	So, look.
	Here's my point.
	If every single person who supported McCarthy right now supported Jordan, you'd be fine.
	And you'd actually see some pushback.
	You'd see some victory.
	But they're scared of the GOP establishment.
	You know what?
	Go watch the Hunger Games.
	When, you know, that one person does the little three-finger salute or whatever, and then the cops start beating the people.
	Or how about the Spartacus moment?
	I am Spartacus.
	No, I am Spartacus.
	I'll tell you who I am.
	I'm the kind of person who would be voting for... I don't even know if I'd be voting for Jim Jordan, to be honest.
	I'd just be a troublemaker.
	But I'd probably.
	I'd say, okay.
	You know, I'll give you that one.
	I'm not supporting the machine.
	I'd vote for Jordan.
	And everyone else should, too, right now.
	Let's read your Super Chats, because I don't want to go too long.
	Pop Culture Crisis is going live soon.
	And so I don't want to go over the time.
	But let me take your Super Chats and talk to you while we're waiting for this vote to go through.
	And it's still a long time.
	They're going to be doing a third vote.
	Spork Witch says, M.T.G.
	or Ron Paul for Speaker.
	They could vote for anybody.
	They could support Trump.
	Nominate Trump.
	Here we go.
	Carl says, I bet a few Democrats come to McCarthy's rescue.
	It's possible.
	It's possible a few moderate Democrats say, we don't want to be here all day.
	It is clear that it's not going to be Jeffries.
	And then, well at this point, you would need like 13 Democrats?
	It's not going to happen.
	So I'm happy to see this.
	I feel like if we keep going business per usual, this country will be ripped apart.
	It is time for the McCarthy votes to realize he doesn't have the ideology.
	He doesn't have the zeal.
	He doesn't have... What's the right word?
	He doesn't have the conviction.
	Y'all are getting behind him because he's part of the machine.
	That's the wrong reason to do it.
	Jim Jordan out of 13 votes.
	Marty Smith Fansu says, Tim, what's going to happen is Democrats and Republicans will pick a moderate Cheney or a Mash and we are screwed.
	I hear ya.
	Yeah.
	I don't see a difference with Kevin McCarthy.
	I think she compromised.
	And compromise isn't implicitly a bad thing.
	Going to Kevin McCarthy and saying, give us these things and we'll support you, I don't see it's all bad.
	The problem is, it's like, he's a snake oil salesman.
	It's going to the machine that sabotaged.
	It's like the dude who stabbed your tire.
	You go to him and say, okay, okay, fine.
	We'll support you, but fix the tire.
	And they'll say, eh, I'll give you a spare.
	Okay, fine.
	I'll take the spare tire.
	Fine.
	Like, dude, this guy sabotaged Trump.
	Okay, wow, sorry, it ain't me.
	But I get it.
	You fear the machine.
	You'll take what you can get.
	It is what it is.
	Bredo says, McCarthy will backstab, will stab everyone in the back.
	MTG sucks.
	Yeah.
	Yup.
	Yup.
	Here's another thing.
	Kevin McCarthy went up after January 6th and blamed Trump for it.
	He blamed Trump for it.
	I can't believe people are voting for him.
	No, I'm sorry.
	I can't.
	Mason Wolfie says fingers crossed for 10 plus defections.
	We're at 13 defections!
	Yeah.
	Nolan Buss says McCarthy must nominate Jordan next round.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, he should.
	But he's another one of these, it's my turn now.
	Sorry, not interested.
	Alright, let's see what we got here.
	Dapper McStache says, establishment GOP needs to be taught that they won't be supported or tolerated anymore.
	McConnell, Graham, Romney, etc.
	They do not represent the people's interest and they never will.
	You need to bring more than just a letter R next to your name.
	Here, here.
	Cleft the Misfit says, Tim, why do you insist on prioritizing foreign policy?
	Like, I agree with you on that stuff, but who cares about the Abraham Accords when food bills have tripled, can't buy a house, borders wide open, and they're transient kids?
	Well, I'll tell you.
	I agree with you on other issues, but right now we're sending like a hundred billion dollars to Ukraine.
	We've spent billions, tens of billions, hundreds of billions on foreign failed wars, and I'll put it this way.
	When we had that story about Flint, Michigan and the busted pipes and the Legionnaire's disease, I said, why can't we just fix this?
	The money exists!
	Oh, modern monetary policy.
	Spend the money overseas.
	Now, how about you spend that money here?
	How about, instead of sending all that money to Ukraine, you take all that money and you fix the pipes, you fix our bridges, you fix our roads.
	So first things first, stop blowing up kids.
	Stop sending our most respectable individuals.
	14 defections.
	15 defections!
	Some of the people I admire most in this country have been those who have served in the armed forces.
	I come from a military family, and I understand why they did it.
	My grandfather fought in World War II.
	I understand.
	It's not always about this nobility.
	Sometimes it's a job.
	But it sickens me that we send our bravest, our best, our most willing to serve our nation overseas for BS reasons.
	That's why foreign policy.
	But you're right about the other issues.
	I'm saying, hey, America first.
	Fix our borders.
	Bring our jobs back.
	Make the lives of the American people better.
	But see, a lot of these people, they want to spread the wealth around the world.
	Nah, I call BS on that, man.
	I call BS on that.
	I got tons of respect for my Ukrainian friends.
	I feel for them.
	I was talking to a friend of mine.
	They were so happy that the Democrats and that we were sending all this money.
	And I was like, I was like, look, I was like, I'm not happy with Putin.
	OK, I'm horrifying what he's doing to your country.
	My friend, Ukrainian.
	And I'm like, but you gotta understand the American people don't want to be involved in this.
	It's just this political elite that want to use Ukraine as a proxy.
	They don't care about you, they don't care about your family, they don't care about your president, they don't care about your government.
	It's just one big dirty game.
	I don't want to be involved in that.
	I don't want Putin to get away with whatever, but I just don't think this foreign intervention is it.
	One big reason why the U.S.
	government wants to do it.
	They want the U.S.
	dollar to be propped up.
	They want all these countries to use 16 defections.
	They want all these other countries using U.S.
	dollars, which makes our dollars stronger.
	I just want to sit back on a rocking chair with some sun tea, hard day's work, and know that we earn our keep, not through reserve dollars or, you know, the stupid global policy stuff, the UN, whatever.
	Modern monetary policy, liberal world economics, things like that.
	The idea that because we are the world police, our dollar is paramount and then we don't have to produce in order... I'm not a fan of that.
	Sorry.
	I get it.
	We all live very, very well in this country because of modern monetary policy.
	I'm not a fan of that.
	So, Russia bad.
	Hands down.
	China bad.
	You betcha.
	And I fear about how we're going to be dragged into war and conflict and there's not much we can do.
	I don't have the answers.
	But if you don't justify them to me, I'm not going to support you and I'll speak out against you.
	You've got to justify beyond this nonsense about freedom.
	They've not justified any of it.
	They never have.
	They just lie.
	I don't know.
	It's a rock and a hard place, to be completely honest.
	There's probably stuff we don't know about that's going on.
	17 defections.
	17 votes for Jordan.
	I swear, if the next round goes through and the McCarthy faction breaks and just says, find Jordan, it'll be an epic day.
	A historic, epic day.
	I hope we see it.
	I hope we really do.
	Let me read some more Super Chats, because I can't be live for too much longer.
	You guys gotta check out Pop Culture Crisis.
	They're live right now, I believe, and that's just a pop culture show, so I know we're here talking politics, talking chop, but I don't want to cut into their time.
	Alright, let's grab some more.
	Let's grab some more.
	Yep.
	I'm not interested in that.
	Amash was saying that he would be the middle-of-the-road choice if they nominate him.
	Democrats and Republicans vote for him, and then they don't get... They say Jordan just voted for McCarthy.
	That's right, he sure did.
	Don't know, don't care.
	All right, let's go, let's go.
	Raymond G. Stanley Jr.
	says, love it.
	Tim's Team America First MAGA nowadays.
	But I've always been about the people in this country.
	I was big on Bernie Sanders in 15 and 16 because he was talking about securing our borders.
	He said illegal immigration was so bad for this country.
	He's changed, mind you.
	But there was a lot of people that I'd met on the campaign trail.
	18 defections.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There were a lot of people who told me they were Bernie supporters who flipped and voted for Trump because Bernie was out and they're not gonna support Hillary.
		And Trump was the only other guy talking about securing our borders and bringing back jobs.
		Bernie was the guy for a while, he's not anymore.
		So, it's always been about our country.
		No wars.
		It's always been about you and me, we're gonna work together, we're gonna work hard, we're gonna roll up our sleeves, we're gonna make cool stuff.
		There's uh, that's Scalise.
		Voted for McCarthy.
		18 defections.
		Omosango says, so disappointed in Marjorie Taylor Greene, she's showing cowardice here.
		Gates is showing the way.
		The stupid party will be stupid.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Phillip says, how is Mr. Bocas?
		He's been getting subcutaneous IV fluids, electrolyte solutions, and a hormone to stimulate red blood cells.
		He is extremely gaunt, but he's bouncing up and about and doing his thing.
		And he really wants to go outside, but he can't.
		So he's doing better.
		But he's very, very thin.
		We're trying to get him to eat.
		It's not easy.
		Hopefully he's got some time left, but he's very young.
		So I don't know.
		Alright, let's grab some more Super Chats.
		Sergeant Sparkles says, if I was there, I would allow three votes, then I would stand up like Gates did and tell the Republicans if McCarthy doesn't stand down, I will vote for Jeffries.
		Hear, hear.
		You know, I had people saying, like, what if a Democrat wins?
		I'm like, I don't care!
		Oh no, the establishment wins.
		Is it going to be McCarthy?
		Is it going to be Jeffries?
		So we have a choice between the Democrats and a Republican who's basically a Democrat driving the speed limit.
		19 defections.
		Jim Jordan.
		Come on.
		You'd love to see it.
		Jim Jordan's far from perfect.
		I just like the rebuke.
		I don't know that Jim Jordan will be perfect.
		I don't know if he's going to be entirely better than McCarthy.
		So, I don't know.
		I'd like, uh, you know, Thomas Massey, Ron Paul, Trump.
		QWERTY honest says, stop calling Jordan supporters defectors.
		McCarthy ones are the defectors from their responsibilities.
		Good point.
		So let's call the McCarthy votes, in my view, are the shill votes.
		The Jordan votes are the conviction votes.
		I'll put it that way.
		The people voting for Jim Jordan are standing up and saying, I am not here to get behind the machine.
		I am here because I actually believe in something.
		Jim Jordan's not a perfect guy, don't get me wrong, but he's done a lot.
		I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but I can tell you that there have been many a time I've seen him sign a letter calling out the machine and calling out the corruption that we've seen, from censorship to the intelligence agencies, etc.
		I do think Jordan is probably a better choice than McCarthy, to be completely honest, but I'm not a Republican.
		So to me, it's more just like the Republican establishment needs a rebuke.
		That's what they need.
		19 defectors.
		Oh, please, go up to 20.
		I think we're going to see... I don't want to say defectors, okay?
		Conviction votes.
		Let's call it that.
		Jim Jordan.
		I hope we see 20 Republicans stand up on principle.
		All right, we'll grab some more superchats.
		We'll grab some more superchats.
		All right.
		Eric B. says McCarthy will endorse Jeffries before Jordan.
		Yep.
		Handyman says the government wins every election, Tim.
		Perhaps.
		It's somewhat of a joke, but it's not completely wrong.
		It's not.
		The bureaucrats in D.C.
		win every election.
		But I think we can see some changes.
		There's Stefanik voting for McCarthy again.
		This is interesting.
		It's interesting.
	I'm not here to pander to anybody.
	I'm not here to stand up and be like, now slow down there, everybody.
	Kevin McCarthy's gonna do best.
	Uh-uh.
	Nope.
	What I am is somebody who can't stand the machine, never could stand the machine, is not gonna support the machine.
	It's not gonna happen.
	So that means if the majority of people I know are gonna be mad at me because I'm someone with a lot of followers saying no to McCarthy, guys, You know, I said this during Occupy Wall Street, and they didn't get it.
	They were like, Tim, you're doing a great job.
	I said, I'm not on your side.
	I am not on your side.
	I am here because I believe in principles that I have.
	Sometimes they change because I learn new things.
	But I'm here because I believe in what's true, and I think people deserve to know the truth.
	And so, it may be that with Trump coming in, I'm sitting here saying I'm gonna vote for him, he's doing the right thing, and people are like, yes, Tim's on our side now.
	I'm like, kind of, but not really.
	It may be in five years, we have a dramatic shift in the Democratic Party, and the Republicans are like, I can't believe Tim's voting Democrat now.
	It's like, well, you know, if they fire every single one of these people.
	Get rid of all the trans kid stuff, perhaps.
	I really doubt that will happen, to be completely honest.
	But I'd probably vote Mises Caucus.
	Vote Libertarian.
	Because I don't like voting against.
	Although, I'm not completely ideologically driven.
	Like, I get it.
	If there was a real risk of Jeffrey's becoming Speaker, I'd probably be a little bit more like, oh man, this is tough.
	I just don't see it.
	Although people are mentioning like a Cheney type, and I'm like, yeah, yeah, I get it, but...
	I kind of just feel like there's got to be some kind of revenge.
	Sorry, man.
	I know people don't want to hear it.
	But the Republican establishment needs to know they don't have it.
	You don't.
	19 votes for Jim Jordan.
	Conviction for ideals.
	Maybe McCarthy will be forced to bow out.
	I'd love to see it.
	Let's see, Kylie Hatcher says, Tim, do you think there will ever be a third party to unite everyone, or do you think the system may collapse first?
	No way on a third party.
	Right now what we're seeing with these 19 votes is the MAGA party.
	We are seeing within the Republicans there is a different faction.
	The Democrats have it too.
	But AOC and the rest of the squad fall in line.
	Christopher Waltz says, we need an aggressive speaker like Jordan because Democrats play dirty, not Milk Toast McCarthy.
	Fair point, fair point.
	Alright.
	Damage Controlling says, never been so excited to lose an election.
	That's great.
	Dapper McStache says, by the way, Tim, would love to see you guys interact with Chicken City like you did earlier more often.
	Yeah, when my studio was next to Chicken City, I'd open the window and I'd yell at them.
unidentified		All right, all right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Count Snekula says, don't call them conviction votes.
		It's really the vote of we the people.
		Establishment is receiving a message that the people hate them and want accountability.
		People's votes.
		All right, 19 people's votes.
		I'll take it, I'll take it.
		You see, here's the challenge, guys.
		It's 3.11.
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		It's huge, but I think we're gonna have to wrap this one up.
		I gotta get the podcast up.
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		Wait till 20.
		Everyone's saying wait till 20.
		Okay, all right, all right.
		We'll wait to see if we can get to 20, all right?
		We're gonna wait.
		I think we're getting close to the end.
		I'll turn the volume up here.
unidentified		McCarthy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see if we can get to 20 votes for Jim Jordan.
unidentified		Williams of Texas.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
unidentified		McCarthy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		McCarthy vote.
unidentified		Wilson of Florida.
		Jeffries.
		Jeffries.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because of Democrats.
unidentified		Wilson of South Carolina.
unidentified		McCarthy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The other thing too is Democrats keep giving speeches.
unidentified		Whitman.
unidentified		McCarthy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		McCarthy.
unidentified		Womack.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Womack.
unidentified		McCarthy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think we're going to see one more Georgia candidate.
unidentified		McCarthy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think we'll see it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe we will.
unidentified		Maybe we will.
unidentified		Come on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Only a couple more.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's it?
unidentified		Is that it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
unidentified		Wow.
		Let's see it.
		The reading clerk will now call the names of the representatives elect who did not answer
		the first call on the roll.
		They didn't answer the first call.
		Bye.
		So it looks like we've got, what, five people?
		Costa.
		Jeffries.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Vote for Jeffries.
unidentified		Alright, a couple more.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think three more.
unidentified		Who do we got?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see if McCarthy goes down.
unidentified		DeLauro.
unidentified		Jeffries.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think, okay, two more maybe, right?
		Two more votes?
		Yeah, two more.
		No, there should be, yeah, yeah, two more.
		I think it should be two Republicans.
		I think it's going to McCarthy, I think it's going to McCarthy.
unidentified		Jeffries.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So who am I counting off?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who am I missing?
unidentified		213 for Jeffries.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I was right the first time?
unidentified		Was it five?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I'm not doing good math right now, guys.
		Here we go, here we go, here we go.
unidentified		Looking through our little books.
unidentified		Smith of Nebraska.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Smith of Nebraska.
unidentified		Smith of Nebraska?
unidentified		McCarthy?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		McCarthy.
		So I think it's what?
		We got one more.
		How many we got?
unidentified		I think that's one more, right?
unidentified		Webster for Florida.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		McCarthy, there it is, yup.
unidentified		19 votes for Wheaton.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Third vote will kick off.
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		Last night, during TimCast IRL, we were getting all of these chats flooding in that a football player, Damar Hamlin, had collapsed on the field.
		And the first thing I assumed is it's another one of these stories where some dude's, like, randomly walking about, just falls down.
		Just shuts down.
		And, uh, there was a story back in October about an 18-year-old kid playing tennis.
		He's just getting warmed up, I guess, and then before he—I don't even know if he got on the field or onto the court—he just leans up against the wall and then, floom, drops to the ground.
		His heart just stopped.
		His coach and his friend, teammate, ran up to him and they got the AED—I think it's the defibrillator—and they restarted his heart.
		Yesterday, Damar Hamlin tackles a guy, and it looked at first, I watched the video, it looked like he gets tackled, kind of.
		What it is, is that he's playing defense, dude's running, he jumps up, puts his hands out, takes the hit to the chest, spins around, lands on his left side, and then gets up, jumps up, and then after about, I don't know, what is it like, 10-15 seconds?
		He just falls right back, hits the ground.
		His heart stopped.
		Beating.
		Now look, a lot of people are just like, bro, sometimes this happens.
		Sometimes this happens.
		And I'm like, dude.
		Maybe.
		Maybe.
		Sanjay Gupta on CNN said he's never seen this before.
		Really?
		Yo, that's crazy.
		Because I got another story about a teenager who collapsed on the field.
		Sanjay Gupta says, I've never seen this before.
		You've never seen this before?
		Yo, either Sanjay Gupta is a terrible doctor who does not watch anything.
		I mean, after what we saw with him on Joe Rogan, that was hilarious.
		You know, he's on Joe Rogan and he's like wishy-washing and going back and forth on how CNN lied about horse medicine.
		That was funny.
		You've never seen it before, dude?
		Okay, maybe he means literally never seen it with his eyes.
		Sure, I guess.
		High school tennis player's teammate and coach save his life after sudden cardiac arrest.
		An 18-year-old kid, his heart just stopped.
	He had finished warm-ups, okay, so he was working, when he lurched forward towards the wall to brace himself before slumping down unconscious.
	We'll come back to this story.
	Let me tell you about what happens with Damar Hamlin.
	Apparently, right now, he's on a ventilator.
	His heart has been restarted.
	Man, I hope this dude is okay.
	He's 24 years old.
	The 24-year-old collapsed on the field after a first-quarter tackle during the Bills' Monday night football game against Bengals in Cincinnati.
	Hamlin was administered CPR on the field before being taken to a local hospital and was in critical condition, according to the NFL.
	The game was suspended by the league.
	That's what really hit me.
	Yeah, I'm not a football person.
	I watch football passively.
	I know a little bit about it.
	I think it's fun to watch.
	We'll go to a bar or something or a grill, get some wings, and you've got a football game on.
	I don't know much about the players, but I'll watch it with friends just for the added entertainment value.
	I don't feel the same way about soccer.
	Sorry, soccer fans.
	But I don't know a lot about this.
	What I do know is them bringing an ambulance onto the field, players crying on the field, and the game being shut down?
	Yo, that doesn't happen.
	I saw this tackle and I was like, yo, that's not the worst tackle I've ever seen.
	Bro, I've seen tackles, I've seen people take hits that you're like, that dude's injured.
	That was bad.
	Like the neck twists or something.
	This was just like, dude takes a check to the ground.
	That was it.
	And I was like, okay.
	Every single fall in skateboarding was worse than that for me.
	I mean, I was skating last year.
	And I was trying to do—bear with me on the jargon— I was doing warm-ups!
	I was doing a nollie 5-0 shove.
	That's what it's called.
	It's a trick.
	Nollie frontside 5-0, frontside shove it out.
	And what happened is I went up, back wheels, missed the coping, missed the edge of the ledge, slipped forward, I fell back, my back hits the ledge, then I fall back, hit my shoulder on the ground.
	I did not have my heart stop.
	But I'm not him.
	And I mean, maybe he's got a different heart.
	I'm just saying, that did not look that bad to me.
	They say Demar Hamlin suffered a cardiac arrest following a hit in our game versus the Bengals.
	The Bills tweeted, his heartbeat was restored on the field and he was transferred to the UC Medical Center for further testing and treatment.
	He is currently sedated and listed in critical condition.
	They say his vitals are back to normal.
	They've put him to sleep to put a breathing tube down his throat.
	He was not involuntarily breathing?
	Is that what they called it?
	Yo, that's crazy.
	Everyone's saying, please pray, please pray.
	No, for real, man.
	I hope this guy's alright.
	This is crazy.
	See that story?
	Players on the field were crying and all that stuff.
	I don't like to see it.
	And so, we saw this story.
	And I know what everybody's thinking, but let me play some clips for you, and then let's talk about the vaccine, okay?
	Let's talk about that one.
	Here, let me play the Sanjay Gupta for you.
	Wait, let me make sure I can, do we got the audio?
dr sanjay gupta ▲ ● ▼		The goal is to restart the heart.
		And it sounds like that they were able to do that on the field, most likely
		with a defibrillator, applying electricity to the heart to restart that.
		And then also, we learned from Adrienne, I believe she said earlier, that he
		continues to be in critical condition, which we knew, but stabilized overnight, which is obviously important.
		So hoping for updates.
		What I've just described is a rare situation again.
		I had actually never seen it happen, certainly not filmed the way that it was, for frankly, the world to
		see.
		But that seems like the most throughout the body.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
		Alright, let's... I hate giving the benefit of the doubt to these people.
		He said, I've never seen it, certainly not in the way that it was filmed for the world to see.
		Is he saying, I have never personally viewed an event like this happen, but it happens?
		But he says, it's a rare event, I've never actually seen it.
		And especially not in the way- No, I- I think he's saying he's never seen it before!
		Like, in his career, in terms of- Here's my interpretation.
		Seen as in, not heard about, but experienced, witnessed, something to that effect, right?
		I've never seen it before.
		Uh, it isn't- I don't think he's saying physically viewing something.
		Let me just, do I have the story here?
		From the Daily Wire.
		Doctor and family speak out after healthy teen suffers cardiac arrest on the tennis court.
		His diagnosis is what's referred to as idiopathic ventricular fibrillation, which basically means we don't have another diagnosis.
		Now what is everybody saying?
		Alright, I'll tell you.
		I want to start with this.
		Yo, this morning I wake up.
		I see the New York Post.
		Sports World shows outpouring of support for Bill's DeMar Hamlin.
		Best of us.
		I read the story, and they said cardiac arrest.
		He was 24 years old.
		I went, wow.
		I mean, that's crazy.
		So I tweeted, cardiac arrest, comma, 24 years old.
		And here we go.
		Hey Callum, at Bombers83, he responded.
		Maybe.
		Just maybe it was because of the big hit he had on the left side of his chest, which oddly is where the heart is.
		As much as you'd love to make it a vax issue, it isn't.
		Well, that's really stupid, you moron!
		Because I didn't bring up the vaccine!
		And yesterday, I quite literally said, isn't it possible that there's another conspiracy?
		Couldn't it be that COVID is causing cardiovascular damage or something like that?
		You see, these people, they're projecting.
		That's the weirdest thing.
		It's the weirdest thing.
		Look, I know there are a lot of people on the right who want to blame the vaccine for all of this stuff, and I understand why.
		I'm not saying you're wrong.
		I'm saying, I don't know.
		I'm not a scientist or a doctor.
		The argument goes like this.
		We are seeing 18-year-old cardiac arrest.
		That's not a heart attack.
		This is cardiac arrest.
		Heart attack is, you know, some people might call it a heart attack, but typically, someone corrected me on this, they said, Tim, a heart attack is a myocardial infarction.
		Meaning, oxygen or blood flow or something is cut off to the heart, so the heart stops working properly and then you fall down.
		Cardiac arrest is, your heart just goes, stops.
		Just stops.
		And then they gotta give CPR, so it's different.
		People, the general idea is we started seeing more and more of this as well as blood clotting.
		Only after the vaccines.
		Oh, you can see right now, arrest Fauci is trending.
		But that doesn't mean the vaccines caused it.
		However, a lot of people are, that's like the common trope for many on the right, is the common belief, I should say, that the vaccine comes out, people start getting it, then you start seeing blood clots and cardiac arrest and things like this, so it must be the vaccine.
		And I'm like, well, if that's your opinion, fine.
		I'm not saying that.
		I think COVID could cause it.
		And the scientific literature has said consistently, or I should say it's said it a lot, that COVID does cause blood clotting and things like that.
		So, when we first saw this, I was wondering if what actually happened was hypoxia.
		I guess you'd call it anoxic encephalopathy.
		So, I have a statement from Peter McCullough, I think, and I only just learned anoxic encephalopathy.
		It's like a lack of blood flow to the brain or something.
	What I was thinking yesterday is like maybe he had a pulmonary embolism or he had a blood clot.
	The hit knocks it loose and then it causes a blockage or something.
	No, it was his heart stopping.
	Here's what I was saying the other day.
	Isn't it possible that if, you know, if Fauci provides funding to EcoHealth Alliance, then EcoHealth Alliance uses that money for gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses?
	Effectively taking a virus and making it stronger and more dangerous, which gain-of-function is.
	If that virus then leaks, isn't it possible this is an after-effect of that virus?
	Now, some people have come back and said the spike protein in general.
	All right, well, I mean, that's what the vaccine does.
	It makes your body produce spike proteins.
	I'm not saying any of that.
	I'm not saying any of it's true.
	I'm just entertaining an alternative that some people believe it was a conspiracy that it was gain-of-function research for weaponization that was intentionally or accidentally released, and I'm like, couldn't COVID be causing this?
	The spike protein?
	I don't know.
	A lot of people are saying, basically, this stuff wasn't happening at the peak of COVID, so, therefore, and I'm like, they were talking about very early on that the virus, that COVID, could have a secondary response.
	That there are viruses that have multiple stages.
	So you might get COVID, and then be like, I'm feeling fine, I'm feeling better, because the virus goes dormant and then reactivates.
	I mean, notably, syphilis, which is, I believe, bacterial, It like stays in your system for decades or some crazy amount.
	I don't know too much about it, but like it stays in your system for a while.
	I'm not saying yes or no to anything.
	I'm not saying I know.
	I'm just saying we don't know, but I'll tell you what really pisses me off.
	I didn't tweet anything about vaccines.
	And I typically don't.
	And this dude chimes in and says, as much as you'd love to make it a vax issue, why would I love to do that?
	What is wrong with these people's brains?
	I'll tell you.
	This guy Callum, who responded to me, he thinks it was a vax issue.
	He saw the story and the first thing he thought was the vaccine.
	Now hold on there a minute, buddy.
	Anybody who watches my shows, anybody who watches the TimCast Uncensored knows I often provide that pushback, like maybe it's something else, correlation is not causation.
	I'm not saying anybody's wrong, I'm just saying I don't know.
	And I'm saying keep an open mind.
	I'm not the guy to come out and say, blah blah vaccine, I've never been that guy.
	When it came to the peak of Trump in Operation Warp Speed, my response was like, look, I don't think the vaccines are killing people.
	Just find a doctor you can trust who knows the science.
	Make sure it's a good doctor, and then get sound medical decisions.
	I have never been the dude to go out and yell at people not to do anything.
	I'm the guy who's always been like, don't get your advice from podcasters.
	I don't want the liability, and I don't know.
	So why is it that these people project onto me that I'm some kind of like anti-vaxxer dude?
	It's because they are.
	Here's what I think.
	I think these people who are seeing me tweet this and then thinking vaccine, they're scared.
	It's like, and I think most of you can probably understand this.
	In his mind, this dude probably got a bunch of vaccines, he probably got boosted.
	He sees these stories, he starts sweating bullets.
	Could it really be true?
	Could the vaccines cause something like this?
	That's what he thinks.
	Me, again, I'm not saying that.
	So when he sees this story, and I don't say anything about it, he comes out like, it's not about the vaccine!
	It's not about the vaccine!
	I'm like, that's weird, I didn't say it was!
unidentified		Literally just tweeted out the story.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like the old trope where, you know, some like, like there'll be like a guy who's gay or something and then he'll just blurt out randomly that he's not gay and everyone's like, bro, no one, no one said you were like, why would you say that?
		And it's because they're internalizing their fears.
		He's got, he's got something on his mind.
		So I have to wonder.
		There are a lot of people who see this and they think vaccine.
		Certainly there are a lot of people who got the booster shot, or multiple boosters, who are seeing this and thinking to themselves, maybe those internet people are right.
		I can only imagine for someone like Callum, either way he's scared.
		Why?
		Sanjay Gupta says he hasn't seen this before.
		Then we get this story from October, October 2022, about an 18 year old kid, just his heart stopping.
		And these aren't the only stories.
		If Sanjay Gupta is saying he's never seen this before, he's never seen it before.
		Then how is it that I have two stories pulled up from the past couple of months?
		And again, there's many more.
		What is causing this?
		I don't know.
		I don't know, man.
		You can believe whatever you want to believe.
		But my question would be this.
		And if it was COVID, if it was the vaccine, if it was whatever, why is it making the heart just stop beating?
		I don't understand a mechanism related to the mRNA vaccine that would cause the heart to just stop beating.
		You know, people want to talk about blood clots and stuff, and it's like, oh, okay.
		It was AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson had a warning about blood clots.
		And I think blood clots are a side effect for any vaccine.
		I could be wrong.
		But a lot of people are like, they're watching the documentary, Died Suddenly, and they're like, look at this fibrous, this strange fibrous clotting that's happening, these weird white things that are being pulled out of people.
		And I'm like, bro, I don't know what's causing it, and I don't know what mechanism in the mRNA vaccines would cause that, unless there's a mechanism we don't know about in something.
		Or it could be something totally different we just don't know about.
		And everybody wants to say that it either is or isn't the vaccines when the vaccines weren't even a subject of the story.
		But isn't it crazy?
		That's the first thing everyone thinks.
		So I'll put it this way.
		You ever watch Who Wants to Be a Millionaire?
		They have this lifeline.
		Y'all know who wants to be a millionaire.
		You can phone a friend, you can 50-50, or you can ask the audience.
		I love the ask the audience feature on who wants to be a millionaire because sometimes the audience is really dumb.
		Ask the audience only works for general knowledge questions, but for those that aren't familiar for whatever reason, it's a trivia game.
		They'll ask you a question, you get four options.
		They'll say, you know, what color is the sky?
		Is it green?
		Blue?
		But anyway, you ask the audience, then everyone in the audience votes, and then you'll see how many people voted for what answer.
		black because it's blue come on the people who argue black are like it's
		just the light reflecting off moisture particles but yeah okay dude it's blue
		we see blue but anyway you ask the audience then everyone in the audience
		votes and then you'll see how many people voted for what answer most people
		are gonna vote for blue and some people will strangely vote for the wrong thing
		whatever but you'll get questions that'll be like in the original cartoon
		Steamboat Willie launched the iconic character, was it?
		And then, you know, Donald Duck, Bugs Bunny, Mickey Mouse.
		You might be like, I don't know what Steamboat Willie is.
		What is that?
		It's Mickey Mouse, by the way.
		And then the audience will all hit Mickey Mouse, and then he'll pop up, and you'll see 60% saying, that's called the wisdom of the crowd.
		That people tend to recognize patterns and through the decentralized powers of the human mind will bring you closer to the correct answer.
		The wisdom of the crowd is fallible.
		I love it, man.
		There's some brutal moments I've watched, who wants to be a millionaire, where it's like, there's a question I know the answer to, and they'll be like, I'm gonna ask the audience, but they're on like the $64,000 question, or like $250,000 or something, like they're high up, and the question's complicated.
		It'll be like, set 2B.
		Let's do this one.
		It'll be something like, this city would have been the capital of the United States if not for losing by a single vote at the start of the United States.
		Which city is it?
		Is it Baltimore, Richmond, Virginia, Havre de Grace, Maryland, or Philadelphia?
	And then, uh, it's a fairly esoteric historical question.
	The answer is Havre de Grace, by the way, if you didn't know.
	And the audience will say Philadelphia because Philadelphia seems like it makes more sense.
	Like, Philadelphia, I mean.
	The Liberty Bell and Benjamin Franklin and all that stuff.
	And they'll be wrong.
	Because they're just making guesses.
	So the wisdom of the crowd can fail.
	But I bring that up because there's something interesting to be said about so many people just immediately jumping on the idea of vaccine.
	They could be wrong.
	It's a complicated question.
	This could be an answer they just don't have the answers to.
	Or it could be the wisdom of the crowd.
	I don't know.
	I don't have the answers.
	I could not tell you.
	I can only tell you that something is happening and it's worth paying attention to.
	And what I will say to many of you, to every one of you, Get a checkup.
	They can do this test for blood clots.
	You get your blood work done, and they'll check to see if you have any clots.
	I, in fact, know an individual who got a bunch of blood clots, not vaccinated.
	This is the important thing.
	You know, people wonder why it is.
	I'm a skeptic on everything.
	Like, some people are like, Tim, you know, it must be the vaccines.
	I'm like, I don't know.
	I'm not gonna say that.
	And then they say, I don't know, all these people who are getting these blood clots and are collapsing, they're all vaccinated.
	It's like, yeah, but like most people are vaccinated.
	I mean, COVID vaccinated, right?
	But I know somebody who got blood clots who's not vaccinated.
	And I'm not kidding.
	I mean that sincerely 100%.
	I'm not going to say who they are.
	Privacy reason.
	Privacy reasons.
	But someone that I know, that like, I'm in regular communication with and see all the time, ended up in the hospital with blood clots, not vaccinated.
	And that was scary, that was scary.
	And, uh, it could be COVID that's causing it.
	There have been reports saying that it happens.
	Here's the issue.
	It's like something like the high 70% of people are vaccinated.
	And so, if everybody, like, it's almost like saying something like, yo, he collapsed.
	Hey man, he was drinking water.
	Whoa, did water cause cardiac arrest?
	I don't know, man, but everybody who had cardiac arrest was drinking water.
	I know a lot of people are going to mad at me for the analogy, because it is different.
	My point is, if they mass vaccinate everybody, and then you keep seeing all these stories about people who are having cardiac arrest or blood clots, and then you're like, but were they vaccinated?
	Well, dude, like 80% of people got the vaccine.
	Come on, the answer is going to be yes.
	Correlation is not causation.
	If we really want to understand this and solve the problem, let's say, interesting hypothesis.
	Let's investigate it.
	Let's get those trials.
	Let's, first of all, I don't trust the corporate press anyway, so we'll see.
	But I'm not going to come out and definitively say one thing or another.
	I just can't do it.
	You can do it.
	You're allowed to.
	Me, I'm trying to be responsible and I don't want to give medical advice.
	But I'll wrap it up with this, man.
	What really struck me Azad is when Sanjay Gupta said he never saw this before.
	So what is it?
	What is happening?
	And will it get worse?
	That's what people are saying.
	It's going to get worse.
	Let me pull up this thing for you because I was ranting a lot.
	This is from Mario Noffle.
	He says they asked Peter McCullough for a statement.
	McCullough said, too early to speculate.
	I am the most senior cardiologist weighing in.
	Here's my quote.
	I watched the play live, both as a fan and a cardiologist, and I saw blunt neck and chest trauma, a brief recovery after the tackle, and then a classic cardiac arrest.
	I have communicated to one of the most experienced trainers in the world, and we agree that if
	it was a cardiac arrest in the setting of a big surge of adrenaline, if DeMar Hamlin
	indeed took one of the COVID-19 vaccines, then subclinical vaccine-induced myocarditis
	must be considered in the differential diagnosis.
	We have been told that he was successfully defibrillated on the field, has been intubated, and is not spontaneously breathing.
	That's what it was, spontaneously breathing.
	Which is consistent with anoxic encephalopathy.
	The nation prays for his complete recovery.
	So, lack of blood flow to the brain.
	I'm not going to say definitively I know anything about it.
	This is just what people are saying.
	So, I don't know, man.
	Look, believe what you want to believe.
	I don't have all the answers.
	You take what you know, and that's how you craft your worldview.
	So, consider what you want to consider.
	It's a crazy story, man.
	I hope this dude's alright.
	Seriously, he's 24.
	He just got drafted.
	Pray for his family, send your best wishes, and seriously, hope for the best on this one.
	And then keep your eyes open, because, like I said, we got two stories here already, and Sanjay Gupta says he's never seen it before.
	Never seen it before, and I got two stories pulled up in the past— Clot is trending.
	Here we go, man.
	We'll see.
	I'll leave it there.
	Next segment's coming up at 1 p.m.
	on this channel.
	Thanks for hanging out, and I'll see you well then.
	So Andrew Tate's big in the news right now.
	Everybody wants to know what was really going on at that compound in Romania.
	What was he doing in Dubai and these other places?
	Or Emirates.
	I'm not exactly sure where he was, but he's got these videos out.
	And I got this story for you.
	It's from MSN.com.
	Virgin Islands Attorney General Loses Her Job Days After Suing JPMorgan Chase In Connection With The Jeffrey Epstein Probe.
	Oh boy.
	You know, this is the news.
	Let me walk you through it.
	From NPR, Epstein's sex trafficking was aided by JP Morgan, a US Virgin Islands lawsuit says.
	And that was December 30th, reported by NPR.
	The AP then reports, Biden arrives in US Virgin Islands to relax between holidays.
	Now, now, perhaps nothing more than a coincidence, as this story was reported on December 27th.
	Then you have the story from just the other day.
	Yeah, the Attorney General was fired.
	Coincidence?
	No, look.
	Drafting a lawsuit takes longer than three days.
	So, the accusations flying across the internet are that the Attorney General made it known they intended to sue Chase for aiding and abetting Jeffrey Epstein.
	Joe Biden flies down for vacation and then gets the Attorney General fired.
	Remember that viral video?
	Of Joe Biden saying, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting a billion dollars.
	They claimed it was all fake.
	They claimed it wasn't true.
	They tried gaslighting every step of the way.
	Donald Trump was impeached for seeking to investigate the corruption of Joe Biden.
	I am done giving these people the benefit of the doubt.
	So let's play a game.
	Let's read the news and see what this is all about.
	From NPR.
	They reported, the government of the U.S.
	Virgin Islands alleges in a lawsuit filed this week that JPMorgan Chase turned a blind eye to evidence that disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein used the bank to facilitate sex trafficking activities on Little St.
	James, the private island he owned in the territory until his 2019 suicide.
	His suicide, huh?
	In a more than 100-page complaint filed by USVI Attorney General Denise George in the Southern District of New York and Manhattan on Tuesday, the territory alleges that JP Morgan failed to report Epstein's suspicious activities and provide the financier with services reserved for high-wealth clients after his 2008 conviction for soliciting a minor for prostitution.
	Oh, so very interesting.
	Let me, uh...
	Let me do something real quick.
	Let's, uh, I'm gonna pop over and take a look at the calendar.
	Just make sure we get the dates right.
	So this story was reported on the 30th, which was Friday.
	All right?
	Friday.
	This is, let's, come on, I got you right here.
	On Friday, December 30th, NPR reported this story.
	They reported that the filing was made on Tuesday.
	Tuesday, which would be the 27th.
	And Biden arrives in U.S.
	Virgin Islands December 27th.
	Okay, hold on, hold on.
	Maybe he left early.
	President Joe Biden on Tuesday traveled to a place very familiar to him, the U.S.
	Virgin Islands, to enjoy some downtime and warm.
	Okay, where's the Alex Jones was right jar?
	Do we have that over here?
	We don't have that one.
	No, that's at the other studio.
	The big jar that says Alex Jones was right.
	Guys, drop a 20.
	No, no.
	Take a $100 bill and put it in that jar.
	Or send a donation to InfoWars.
	Help them cover that massive bill.
	I'm being somewhat facetious, obviously.
	But hold on.
	On Tuesday, the U.S.
	Virgin Islands Attorney General files a lawsuit.
	That same day, Joe Biden flies to the Virgin Islands.
	And then we learn shortly after, the Attorney General gets fired.
	Okay.
	Sounds like the Bidens are directly implicated in the Epstein scandal then.
	You know, as the media screams about Andrew Tate, and the left screams as a human trafficker, I'm like, wow!
	I mean, these are some serious accusations.
	Yeah, let's see the evidence.
	You know, if this dude's doing this stuff, we gotta put a stop to that, right?
	But, you know, I'll tell you what.
	I got a list over here.
	Actually, Luke Rutkowski had the list.
	He was like, we'll get to Andrew Tate as soon as we get through Epstein, Maxwell, Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, etc., etc.
	Bezos, whoever else.
	Who are these people?
	Here's the story.
	Joe Biden on Tuesday traveled to a place very familiar.
	The President and his wife, First Lady Jill Biden, flew from Washington on Tuesday.
	To St.
	Croix, is that how you pronounce it?
	One of the three islands that make up the U.S.
	territory in the Caribbean.
	St.
	John and St.
	Thomas are the other two islands.
	The Bidens were joined by their daughter, Ashley, and her husband, Howard Krine, as well as grandchildren.
	A tropical getaway.
	We've missed him the last couple of years.
	Beth Amos Mehar, a retired attorney and island resident for nearly three decades, said in a telephone interview.
	Really?
	Biden spent the holidays at his home in Delaware in 2020 and 21, mostly because of the COVID pandemic.
	This week's visit to St.
	Croix will be his first as president.
	Is it St.
unidentified		Croix?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		It's like La Croix, the soda.
		Will be his first as president to the U.S.
		Virgin Islands.
		We're tremendously honored.
		That's weird.
		So, he hadn't been back there in years and just decided, we're gonna go here.
		Come on, man.
		Ain't nobody playing this game anymore.
		You're gonna have to start banning every single person.
		That's the way you're gonna have to do it.
		You're gonna have to ban me.
		You're gonna have to ban Viva, Crowder, Stixx and Hammer.
		You're gonna have to ban everybody.
		Every single person.
		Because that's it.
		Virgin Islands Attorney General loses her job days after suing JPMorgan Chase.
		Yeah, days after suing JPMorgan Chase and then the Bidens flew to the island.
		They say, Virgin Islands Attorney General Denise George lost her job after suing JPMorgan Chase in connection with her Epstein investigation.
		The Virgin Islands' top prosecutor, who reached a more than $105 million settlement with Epstein's estate, has lost her job.
		The federal lawsuit filed in New York accused the bank of having facilitated, sustained, and concealed Epstein's human trafficking network.
		On December 27th, then-Virgin Islands Attorney General Denise filed the heavily-redacted 30-page suit.
		I thought it was over 100.
		JPMorgan turned a blind eye.
		Yes, yes, yes, we've read this part.
		Epstein victims, who sued anonymously in a pair of class-action complaints, previously had accused JPMorgan Chase and Deutsche Bank of complicity in the sex trafficking scheme.
		Though Epstein died in jail before his trial, his co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell was tried, convicted, and sentenced to 20 years in prison.
		I just want to point out, fascinating, this article doesn't say suicide.
		It doesn't say it.
		Days after the AG's filing the lawsuit on New Year's Eve, George was removed from her post.
		Local news outlets in the Virgin Islands reported the Attorney General had not informed the territory's governor, Albert Bryan, of her impending enforcement action.
		George's office did not immediately respond to Law & Crime's email requesting comment on Monday, a federally observed holiday.
		The development was first reported by the Virgin Islands Consortium, citing anonymous sources.
		Bryan subsequently confirmed George's termination without providing an explanation for it,
		in a statement sent to multiple news outlets.
		I relieved Denise George of her duties as Attorney General this weekend. I thank her for her service
		to the people in the territory during the past four years as Attorney General and wish her the
		best in her future endeavors. Yo, I would love to get this lady on the show.
		Denise George.
		Let's reach out and see if we can get Denise George on IRL ASAP.
		Now, I have great concerns for the health and safety of this individual, so... Look alive.
		Look sharp.
		Come on.
		The Governor's spokesman declined to elaborate, telling Law & Crime, I am not at liberty to discuss details on personnel matters.
		Brian reportedly appointed Attorney General Carol Thomas Jacobs to serve as Acting Attorney General.
		Thomas Jacobs, who also did not immediately respond to their press inquiry, also worked on the Epstein investigation.
		George had led the office when Thomas Jacobs signed her name to a complaint suing Epstein's estate under the Territory Criminally Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, SECO.
		The local equivalent of a racketeering lawsuit.
		They say, the action accused the estate's executors Darren K. Indyk and Richard D. Kahn of acting as Epstein's indispensable captains.
		Both denied those allegations and did not concede wrongdoing under the recent settlement, which called upon the estate to keep providing documents for the Attorney General's ongoing investigation.
		The case that George filed against JPMorgan Chase before her departure had been marked as related to the proposed class action lawsuits filed in the same court against JPMorgan Chase and Deutsche Bank currently pending before senior U.S.
		District Judge Jed Rakoff.
		Those now consolidated cases have been scheduled for trial in the Southern District of New York in the summer of 2023.
		Interesting.
		Well, there you go, my friends.
		Uh, Epstein was accused, uh, JPMorgan, sorry, was accused of facilitating Epstein.
		In a completely unrelated story, on the same day, Joe Biden flies to the Virgin Islands, and then in a completely unrelated story, the Attorney General gets fired.
		It's amazing, isn't it?
		I don't think anyone's playing the game anymore.
		I mean, look, some people are, obviously, but I mean, regular people, I think, just aren't playing.
		I want to give a shout out to Chris Raygun.
		It's one of the best tweets ever.
		When Jeffrey Epstein died, Chris Raygun tweeted that he got into an Uber and the first thing the guy says is, yo, that guy didn't kill himself.
		And it was really funny because nobody thought he did.
	Like, there's no way this dude Now, to be honest, I understand why people don't believe it.
	The guards were sleeping, the cameras weren't working, his cellmate tried to attack him or something of that effect.
	Yeah, we get it.
	I think it's possible.
	I do.
	I mean, look.
	We were talking about this last night on IRL.
	Ian said he thought that Maxwell was the actual ringleader.
	Interesting story.
	Interesting theory.
	Let's go through this.
	Epstein.
	Trafficking kids.
	Young... I shouldn't say... Well, just teenagers, minors, and things like that.
	Sex trafficking.
	The story that most people believe is that Epstein was running this ring, Maxwell was his commander, his lieutenant, whatever, and he would bring people out to the island and then, you know, some hot young girl would, they'd hook up, and then he'd film it and be like, look, we got you on camera, right?
	This is apparently part of, you know, accusations made about the CIA and the FBI doing this kind of thing for a long time.
	Getting people, tricking people into sleeping with, you know, underage individuals and then documenting it and then, you know, using that as blackmail against them.
	Perhaps.
	But Ian brought up a different theory.
	He said if you take a look at Ghislaine Maxwell's dad, he's like very powerful and very wealthy.
	Could it be that Epstein himself was just The Patsy?
	The Fall Guy?
	The Commander?
	Could it have been that whatever it is they were involved in, Jeffrey Epstein was a liability?
	That his predilections were causing very serious problems for this corrupt racket?
	Maxwell was actually the orchestrator?
	Or it could be that there was somebody else entirely.
	I think it's possible.
	I don't know.
	The idea is, Maxwell is working through her dad and some other organizations.
	They bring on Epstein, who was like a high school teacher.
	All of a sudden he's worth a ton of money.
	They start parting.
	She loves him.
	She gives him whatever he wants.
	He's a liability.
	He puts the operation at risk.
	He gets arrested.
	First time.
	And then they let him go.
	Alex Jones talks about it.
	Then he gets caught again.
	Now it's undeniable.
	So the machine has to tie up some loose ends, and then Jeffrey Epstein ceases to be alive.
	Maybe.
	I don't know.
	I really don't.
	And I'm not a fan of conspiracy theories.
	I can only speculate as to what may be, but I can tell you this.
	Ain't no one gonna believe that it was a coincidence that for the first time in years, Joe Biden flew to the Virgin Islands right after they filed a lawsuit against JPMorgan Chase, and then a couple days later, the Attorney General gets fired.
	Spare me, dude.
	Spare me, ain't nobody buying it.
	So what is really going on?
	Maybe it's more than we think.
	I have to say, I think we're scratching the surface on the Epstein stuff.
	And that is to say that what you think you know is probably not true.
	We're seeing stories and affidavits from young women saying they were trafficked.
	I'm sure those things happened, right?
	What I should say is, I believe women.
	When these women come out and say this thing happened, I'm like, okay, I believe that they're telling the truth.
	I don't immediately disbelieve them.
	But we need evidence.
	Because I think there's probably something else going on here.
	I remember what really annoyed me during the whole pizza stuff.
	Remember that?
	Was that one day, I'm doing research on this conspiracy theory, and I see people posting that pizza means boy and pasta means girl or whatever, and that was just made up!
	It's not real!
	Man, is it so annoying.
	And you know what it probably was?
	Someone got close to something.
	Emails get released through Wikileaks and they are questionable.
	And so what probably happens is the Intel agencies start seeding false information.
	Here's what it is.
	You're standing on the road.
	And then off in the distance, you see something.
	You can't quite make out what it is, but whoa, whoa, whoa.
	That's, that's weird.
	That looks like, is that Joe Biden down there?
	That looks like it's Joe Biden.
	So you start walking in that direction.
	That was the WikiLeaks emails.
	Exposing something weird going on.
	You left your, your nap, your handkerchief with a map on it.
	With a map on it.
	What's a map?
	A Minor Attracted Person?
	Is that what they call it?
	With a map on it, what's that mean?
	We don't know.
	And so, people see something off in the distance.
	They can't quite make out what it is, but it looks suspect.
	They start walking towards it, when all of a sudden, to their left, someone starts screaming, I found Sasquatch.
	And then everyone runs off to go find Sasquatch.
	That's what happened.
	I think the whole pizza narrative was an attempt to obfuscate something that people had actually stumbled upon.
	And what ends up happening is regular people are following the leader.
	There are thought leaders who are digging through this stuff.
	Some false evidence is planted, turning their focus.
	People behind them follow.
	So when on 4chan someone made the claim, falsely, that pizza means boy and pasta means girl, and then every conspiracy nut job just latched onto that idea, all of a sudden they changed the context of what these emails were.
	One of the emails said something to the effect of, you know, having more fun playing dominoes on pizza than on pasta or something like that.
	And everyone's like, aha, that proves it was trafficking, and I'm like, uh, it sounds like drugs.
	It sounds like drugs to me.
	Like, on something?
	Yeah, on drugs.
	It's like, are you saying uppers or downers, coke or heroin?
	If you came to me, if you came to the average person, and you said that powerful global elites were involved in child sex trafficking, they'd be like, that's crazy.
	If you went to the average person and said, the average politician is doing tons of drugs, they would start laughing and be like, what else is new?
	You see?
	Occam's razor would suggest, at the very least, there is evidence that these people were using code words for the drug abuse at their parties.
	These are politicians, they can't get caught doing drugs.
	Not all politicians, but powerful individuals.
	So they use code.
	When I was a kid, they called cigarettes squares.
	You have a square?
	Because if you say cigarette, you get caught.
	So around the school, kids would be like, yo, let me get a square.
	And the teacher would be like, huh?
	What's that?
	And they'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, after class, or after recess, or we didn't have recess, but like after lunch or something.
	So when these politicians are sending emails to each other, sounds to me like they're saying, you think it'd be more fun to go party while doing ecstasy or doing opiates?
	Sounds more realistic, in my opinion.
	I'm not saying the trafficking stuff isn't real.
	We know it is.
	We've got testimony of trafficking from Epstein and Maxwell.
	The point I'm saying is that as it relates to the pizza story, could be the same thing, could be different, I don't know.
	But I think it has more to do with drugs than anything.
	The question now is, what's Biden's involvement?
	And why does it appear that the Biden family personally intervened?
	Well, I'll give you a really simple solution.
	Because I always try and look for the simple solutions, right?
	Simple solution is, this was bad for JPMorgan's stock price.
	It was bad for JPMorgan's ability to do business.
	That's it.
	Bad for the economy.
	So the Bidens go there and say, stop, shut this down.
	You're going to cause damage to our financial institutions.
	And she says, no.
	And they say, okay, then you're fired.
	Knowing Joe Biden, though, the way he sniffs kids, gropes women, what a piece of trash.
	I wouldn't be surprised if he was all about what Epstein had for him.
	I wouldn't be surprised in the least bit.
	What's that?
	He traveled to the Virgin Islands with Ashley?
	Didn't she write some creepy stuff in her diary?
	The Biden family is disgusting.
	And they're crooked.
	So I don't blame people for immediately jumping the gun and assuming that this dude is involved in trafficking.
	I'm just saying that I consider it, you know, the evidence.
	But I also think drugs makes more sense, because I gotta tell you, this dude's on drugs.
	Joe Biden's probably hopped up on goofballs to such an absurd degree that, like, here's what I think they do.
	I think they wake him up at the crack of noon, and then they get him ready for his 2 p.m.
	press conference, pop him full of pills, IV treatments, send him on out, and then once he's done, he goes back to sleep.
	The dude is too old.
	They gotta be hopping him up on goofballs.
	I bet he gets NAD every week.
	I bet he gets vitamin drip.
	I bet he gets caffeine, Adderall, you name it.
	Whatever they can to keep this old shamble shambling about.
	This is a creepy story, man.
	But I do think, I got one more thing to say.
	I saw a tweet.
	CNN, MSNBC, these other cable networks lost like 20-30% of their viewership over the last year.
	Fox News lost 1%.
	One.
	And that 1% was probably old people dying.
	So they're not replenishing, but it's not as bad as CNN.
	You know what I think?
	I think we're winning the narrative war.
	I think the fact that people are staying tuned in to Fox News and they're leaving CNN, MSNBC, and other networks means the veil is starting to crumble.
	As the veil crumbles.
	We'll see.
	More and more people will be woken up, realize what's going on, and then maybe there will eventually be some kind of prosecution.
	I don't know.
	I'll leave it there.
	Next segment's coming up at 4 p.m.
	over at youtube.com slash timcast.

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