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Ukraine Says Prepare For Nuclear Attack, Pope Warns Of Nuclear War As Russian TV Says WW3 Has Begun

Ukraine Says Prepare For Nuclear Attack, Pope Warns Of Nuclear War As Russian TV Says WW3 Has Begun. Russia views this war between itself and NATO as the west is supply combatants and weapons. Western combatants in Ukraine are their unofficially but are still there and NATO has been sending heavy weapons to Ukraine for sometime. World War Three may have already begun or it could be that people fear a ground war in Europe has no where to go except into a major international conflict. Biden has refused to send in US troops but now some Democrats are calling for US troops on the ground in ukraine, for a NATO Intervention #Ukraine #Russia #Democrats Become A Member And Protect Our Work at http://www.timcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Today is April 18th, 2022, and our first story.
Ukraine says the world should prepare for a nuclear attack.
Even the Pope is warning of nuclear war.
Russian state TV says World War III has begun, because NATO is supplying the infrastructure for the war, and Western citizens are actually fighting the war in Ukraine.
We could be looking at real escalation, but maybe everyone kind of exaggerates whenever conflict breaks out, thinking this will be the time World War III begins.
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And now, let's get into that first story.
While many of us have been distracted by domestic issues over the past week or so, the war in Eastern Europe actually has been getting worse.
Just the other night, we heard that Russia launched several attacks across the country.
And now it's being reported that Russia has hit the western city of Lviv in Ukraine, getting dangerously close to NATO countries.
Now, it's not the first time there's been a strike in this area, but it seems to be escalating.
And now we're hearing from the president of Ukraine this important message.
She says he is warning the world to prepare for Putin to unleash a nuclear attack.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, buddy.
I don't want to dismiss it outright.
There actually is a real concern that Vladimir Putin will launch a nuclear weapon of some sort for some reason.
Perhaps it'll be a small tactical device, not a large ICBM or intercontinental ballistic missile.
But the possibility is there.
Because Russia seems to be operating under the premise there's an existential threat to their country, and that is a prerequisite for them firing a nuke.
At least in Ukraine, perhaps, in Eastern Europe.
We're learning that two Nordic states might actually join NATO, with Russia warning them not to do so.
Certainly that could make Vladimir Putin feel like Russia is facing an existential threat.
No?
But we're also concerned about the sinking of the Russian flagship, the Moskva, that was reportedly sunk by Ukrainian forces.
Now, Russia initially said it was just a fire that sank their vessel.
Perhaps they were embarrassed because they're fighting a ground war and their flagship sank.
But A TV presenter on Russian state TV said, World War III has effectively begun because Russia is not at war with Ukrainian infrastructure.
Russia's at war against NATO infrastructure.
The only real difference between whether it's a NATO versus Russia war and Ukraine versus Russia is the personnel.
The reality is the West has continually increased the supplies being sent into Ukraine.
Do you think Russia views this as Russia versus Ukraine?
They don't.
Since the start of things, Russia views this as a proxy state for the West.
That's, well, that's one of the reasons, if not the reason, Russia actually invaded.
In 2014, the Russian president was ousted.
Russia perceives this as an act by the West to oust the sitting president and basically take the country over with soft power.
Believe whatever you want to believe.
There's a lot of fog of war and propaganda out there.
Western media just says Putin is evil and he's bombing civilians.
And you know, he is doing a lot of bad things.
I mean, he started this war because he was losing the battle of soft power.
But I think Russia's fear is that if Ukraine falls to the West, i.e.
joining NATO or the EU, then we've controlled the entirety of their borders, we've shut down their access to the Black Sea, and that will cripple the Russian economy.
Is that not an existential threat?
Now, I'm not going to take Zelensky's word for it.
Okay, look, as much as I can respect that he is concerned about his country, I think Ukraine is a beautiful country, and it's sickening to see what's happening.
Zelensky has made desperate pleas before, and he's going to ratchet things up to 11 to convince you to send in the troops.
But now the Pope is also warning about nuclear war or World War III, and it's like, okay, come on, come on, really?
Guys, can we calm down?
Everybody seems to think World War III is going to happen, and I've heard it a million times, so I'm not entirely convinced.
But we do have Democrats calling for U.S.
troops to go on the ground in Ukraine, which is the most psychotic thing I have ever heard.
Are you nuts?
That's basically like, we should declare war with Russia and launch the nukes immediately!
Yeah, send US troops on the ground in Ukraine and see how long it takes Russia to be like, fire the missiles!
Because they're not going to wait around if US troops enter the fray.
That being said, what's the difference?
There are American veterans on the ground.
There are British veterans on the ground.
The International Coalition.
Just because it's some kind of letter of mark, Russia's supposed to act like the weapons and personnel aren't coming from NATO?
So perhaps, perhaps it is World War III.
And you know why I'm more willing to say World War III in this regard as opposed to like the Cold War or proxy wars?
Because this is a war in Europe.
And it's with Russia's direct involvement.
I wish I could say that it looks like things would calm down, but it actually looks like things are actually going to escalate.
Which has me worried.
I don't know if we're going to see nuclear war again.
We've been distracted by things like Elon Musk and Alex Jones and all these other stories.
But maybe we are inching towards that moment.
Or maybe not.
Maybe Zelensky is just trying to fan the flames of rhetoric, as it were, to convince the West to intervene.
Otherwise, Ukraine is done.
Russia will come in, they'll take control.
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Let's read the story from the New York Post.
Zelensky warns the world to prepare for Putin to unleash a nuclear attack.
Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky warned the world should prepare and urged that air raid shelters and anti-radiation medicine be readied for the potential calamity.
I've already heard reports that potassium iodide is in short supply.
Of course, I've... Let me just tell you, friends.
I've had potassium iodide in our storeroom for like five years.
I'll tell you how it works.
This is basically what they give you when radiation is running amok.
Because iodine, you ingest it, then your body takes the iodine and puts it in your thyroid.
If it's radioactive iodine, then it's going to damage your thyroid.
If you take potassium iodide, your body gets its fill of iodine, and when the radioactive stuff comes in, it goes, no, no, no need.
We have our fill.
I guess, theoretically, there are other ways you can do it.
I'm not a doctor, so don't take my word for it.
Talk to a doctor about how to appropriately do it, because I don't know what the right, you know, dosage or anything is.
But there's also iodine in, like, table salt or whatever.
That's really what it's for.
But if you're—if we're talking about, like, massively radioactive objects with, like, gamma wave radiation coming off, yo, steer clear.
Those are the fears.
In an interview with CNN that aired Sunday, Zelensky was asked whether Putin would deploy chemical or tactical nuclear weapons.
Not only me.
All of the world, all of the countries have to be worried.
Because it can be not real information, but it can be truth.
Chemical weapons.
They should do it.
They could do it.
For them, the life of people, nothing.
That's why.
Zelensky said.
We should think, not be afraid.
Not be afraid, but be ready.
But that is not a question for Ukraine.
Not only for Ukraine, but for all the world, I think.
Now look, far be it from me to sit here and be like, the guy who's losing a war is saying the world should be panicking.
You know, far be it from me to call him a liar.
But I do think it's fair to say, take it with a grain of salt.
In an interview with Ukrainian media Saturday night, Zelensky warned of the real possibility of nuclear attack.
We shouldn't wait for the moment when Russia decides to use nuclear weapons.
We must prepare for that.
I gotta be honest, he's right.
He's right right there.
It's not so much to say Russia will do it.
But they could.
And if they do, are we going to be sitting here with our hands under our butts?
Or are we going to be like, we are prepared in the event that there is a tactical nuclear strike?
Tactical nuclear strike.
I think that's infinitely more possible.
I believe that Vladimir Putin could and would use nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
But please stop.
I'm not talking about multiple independently retargeting, or I'm sorry, multiple independently targeting reentry vehicles or MIRVs.
ICBMs that fly up into the stratosphere and then drop 10 to 12 warheads?
I'm talking about nuclear artillery.
I'm talking about much smaller yield weapons, 100 kiloton bombs.
That stuff has a real potential.
The idea that Putin is going to launch a nuke and blow up New York?
No, no, no.
I think for the most part, for the time being, we're fine.
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I think in Eastern Europe, they should be prepared.
He goes on to mention the anti-radiation medicine and things of that nature.
But it's not just the President of Ukraine, it's also the Pope.
The Wall Street Journal reports Pope Francis' praise for peace in Ukraine warns of nuclear war.
Warning of nuclear war like it might happen or warning of the dangers of nuclear war?
Please, the context here is really important.
I think everybody's screaming at the top of their lungs.
I think you'd be stupid not to be prepared for the worst case scenario.
I really don't think there's going to be a World War III nuclear war unless, of course, it may have already started, I guess.
Take a look at this.
Russian State TV claims Ukraine invasion has already escalated into World War 3.
I gotta be honest.
They have a point.
You don't gotta like Russia to point out how they feel.
May encourage nuclear weapons.
A Russian state TV host claimed the reason Vladimir Putin's special operation in Ukraine is taking so long is because the nation has entered World War III.
Presenter Olga Skabaeva implored Rossio One viewers to recognize the country is now fighting against NATO.
One can safely call what has escalated into World War III.
That's absolutely for sure.
Right now, we're definitely fighting against NATO infrastructure, if not NATO itself.
We need to recognize that.
Not wrong.
Not wrong.
What do you think Russia does?
I mentioned this in previous videos as it pertains to war in Eastern Europe.
Do you think Russia is sitting there going like, they're NATO tanks, they're NATO missiles, they're NATO guns, they're citizens of Western countries like the U.S.
and the Baltic States, but it's not them fighting us.
Nah, look.
The only thing, the only difference between this and any other standard war between great powers, NATO ain't declared anything yet.
But our people sure are there, armed with our weapons, and we're supplying more weapons Heavy weapons.
Take a look at this from the Financial Times.
NATO states agree to supply heavy weapons to Ukraine.
This story from April 8th.
Russia admits significant losses of troops as Donbass region prepares for fresh offensive.
Do you think Vladimir Putin and Russia will be like, we lost in Ukraine!
Bye!
I don't think so.
I really do not think so.
And NATO is supplying heavy weapons, advanced weaponry, to Ukraine.
If Russia loses and the Moskva was sunk, a Russian flagship, I believe in the Black Sea, if Russia is actually forced to retreat, you think they'll just be like, aw, shucks.
Or do you think Vladimir Putin will be like, I will not back down.
Fire!
Here's what scares me.
I believe that if Russia fired something like a 100 kiloton bomb on Kiev, the war would be over.
He won.
NATO would not retaliate.
The sanctions would be bad, but that would be the end of it.
Russia would win.
Nobody would want to escalate beyond that for fear of Russia actually firing intercontinental ballistic missiles at their own capitals.
So how do you stop Russia when Russia is targeting a country that is not part of any alliance?
Not part of the EU or NATO?
You let them win.
That's the scary reality.
I genuinely think Putin could strike Kiev.
Western individuals who volunteer in Ukraine would probably scatter.
There would be deserters across the Ukrainian military.
Not all of them, but many people would be like, they're nuking us!
What chance do we have?
Kiev would be obliterated.
Civilians, 100,000, would be dead.
But Putin would be like, it's done.
Now, this, for the civilian reason, is why I don't think Putin would actually hit Ukraine.
Because many Russians view Ukrainians as, you know, similar.
The languages are similar.
In fact, my friends, uh, the friend... I don't want to give away too much information about the people I know in Ukraine, but people I know in Ukraine, they speak several languages.
Some just a couple, some many.
I'll leave it at that.
There's a lot of danger right now to giving away too much information about what's happening with people in Ukraine.
Obviously, there's a war going on.
But I don't think Russia wants to kill civilians.
I think Russia is willing to kill civilians in the pursuit of destabilizing the existing government.
Vladimir Putin does not view Zelensky favorably, and we saw this in 2014, when the sitting president was ousted.
Russia views it as a US-CIA-backed coup.
Call it what you want.
War is war.
Of course Russia has their reasons.
NATO member states have agreed to supply new types of advanced weaponry to Ukraine, alliance reps said, as Kiev prepares for an offensive by Russia in the country's east.
The pledge came after a plea from Ukraine's foreign minister for Western countries to move faster with supplies or risk seeing many people die.
They say six weeks since Vladimir Putin ordered the invasion, as we understand.
That has sparked demands from Kiev for Western countries to supply more heavy weapons, armor, and advanced systems.
Ukraine's foreign minister, Dmitry Kuleba, said he would use a NATO meeting in Brussels to ask for aircraft, missiles, armored vehicles, and heavy air defense systems, among others.
Let's go back to World War II.
Why was it that the Axis powers declared war on the United States?
One reason.
We were supplying weapons to their enemies, and they said, we need to cut those supply lines.
Force the U.S.
to use those weapons for itself, so we get attacked.
Again, many other reasons, but that was a big one.
Well, that was a big mistake, because then what did you get?
You got American flesh and blood storming the beaches of Normandy, and many other beaches, in what is viewed as an insane siege in Europe.
It's crazy.
But we won.
And we shut him down.
Now, if Vladimir Putin is looking at this conflict, the one thing he's probably worried about is U.S.
soldiers getting involved.
With us supplying weapons, he might view it similarly to how the Axis powers did.
They're basically the backing of which we are at war with.
And that's what that Russian state TV presenter said.
Zelensky appeals for stronger, more destructive sanctions.
Says up to 3,000 Ukrainian soldiers are dead.
More sanctions?
What do you think Putin's thinking about the sanctions?
Russia's already called the sanctions total war.
The sanctions imposed on Russia have caused a bit of turmoil, but it's also forced Russia to become a bit more resilient, creating their own economic systems, pushing back against the West.
Vladimir Putin warned.
He said that if you wanted to buy oil from them, it had to be in rubles through Russian bank accounts.
Well, when European countries refused, he didn't do anything.
So maybe it's a lot of bluster.
Maybe.
I still genuinely believe that Vladimir Putin will not accept defeat, and that could involve the use of low-grade, low-tier nuclear weapons.
The Daily Mail reports just today, first images show Putin's doomed flagship, Moskva, on fire and sinking into the Black Sea after being shot by Ukraine, as conscripts tell of horrors on board with hundreds thought to have died.
I can't show you the photos because they're a bit too brutal.
I apologize.
I mean, it's just war stuff, but, you know, YouTube has their limits.
There was damage to the hull of the ship.
It looks like a missile hit it.
Now, the reporting is that a Neptune missile from Ukraine struck the flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet and sank it.
Russia denied it.
Where does Ukraine get these weapons?
From NATO.
If NATO was not involved, Russia would have gone in and shut down Ukraine instantly.
NATO, the West overtly are supporting Ukraine.
How are we not involved in this war?
Now the question is, does Russia actually have the means to fight a war with NATO?
Technically not, but they do have nukes.
And that means Russia might be like, I'll call your bluff.
You know, I'll look at it this way.
imagine there's a short guy at a bar and You know
He's got a girl and this big dude walks over and starts hitting on that girl
And then all of a sudden the girl's like I'm actually gonna go hang out with this guy
He's gonna be like dude what like I'm here. I'm paying for this so then dude comes up
Grabs the woman she's like no she's with me Well, all of a sudden, you see, that's the invasion, that's the war.
You don't do that, you've aggressed.
Big Dude says, I can beat you up, but Little Dude opens up his, you know, shirt jacket and shows a gun.
Now we got a question.
Big Dude could beat up Little Dude, NATO could crush Russia, Russia's got a gun.
Big Dude's got guns too!
But he's like, oh man, what do we do?
Is this gonna result in a shootout?
Are other people gonna get hurt?
Is this whole place gonna get messed up?
There's the challenge.
I know, probably a silly analogy, but here we go.
Then look at it this way.
The chick stomps on the foot of the dude, but she's wearing a boot given to her by the big guy.
And the boot hurt dude's foot.
I know, maybe we don't actually need the analogies, whatever, you get the point.
Well, little dude says, you know what, fine, I'm not gonna use my weapons, but I'm gonna call in my buddies!
The AP reports Syrian fighters ready to join the fray, or as they call it, the next phase of Ukraine war.
My friends, in the scenario I have given you, it sounds like a bar brawl is about to break out, right?
Well, scale that up.
Could it potentially be nuclear war?
Maybe the bunch of people in the bar are like, dude, dude, stop, we don't wanna fight!
Just let the big dude take your girl, and the small dude's like, no!
He's not gonna back down, no way!
He's like, I'm tired of being made fun of for being short!
And so, he refuses to back down.
He calls over some of his buddies, they're ready to join him in the fight.
Big Dude backs away and tells the girl, it's all you, man!
And now the girl is boxing with the short dude and his friends, but the big dude's just giving her, you know, like, a boot.
I don't know.
At some point, the big dude's gonna have to step in, right?
Maybe not.
Maybe he says, I didn't care about that chick all that much anyway, dude, I was just hitting on her.
Well, let's bring it back to reality.
Syrian fighters may join the fray.
We've already seen some.
The AP reports during a visit to Syria in 2017, Vladimir Putin lavished praise on a Syrian general whose division played an instrumental role in defeating insurgents in the country's long-running civil war.
Now, members of Brigadier General Suhail al-Hassan's division are among hundreds of Russian-trained Syrian fighters who have reportedly signed up to fight alongside Russian troops in Ukraine, including Syrian soldiers, former rebels, and experienced fighters who fought for years against the Islamic State.
So far, only a small number appears to have arrived in Russia for military training ahead of deployment on the front lines.
Although Kremlin officials boasted early in the war of more than 16,000 applicants from the Middle East, US officials and activists monitoring Syria say there have not yet been significant numbers of fighters from the region joining the war.
Analysts, however, say this could change as Russia prepares for the next phase of battle with a full-scale offensive in eastern Ukraine.
They believe fighters from Syria are more likely to be deployed in the coming weeks, especially after Putin named General Alexander Dvorakov, who commanded the Russian military in Syria, as the new war commander in Ukraine.
Well, where do you think this leads to?
Does it eventually just get to the point where... I mean... I mean, we're there.
Western country civilians go into Ukraine, and the countries are like, we didn't declare war, they chose to go.
What's the difference?
You know, I think back to the refugee crisis and the immigration crisis in the US and Europe.
You have videos of thousands of people marching towards the U.S.
border, flying the flag of their country.
And what did the right call that?
An invasion.
They said, we are being invaded, large swaths of people are coming, and they're flying their country's flag!
How is it any different?
NATO, civilians, they may not be flying American flags, they can fly Ukrainian, but they are citizens of these countries.
At what point does Russia say, I've got to go after Western resources.
What if Vladimir Putin strikes NATO naval forces?
Take a look at this.
Russia calls increased NATO military activity in the Arctic worrying.
Warns of unintended incidents.
Russia is worried about increased activity of NATO forces in the Arctic and sees unintended incidents occurring in the region.
In March, Finland and Sweden, which are both considering joining NATO, conducted combined NATO military drills.
The recent increase in NATO's activity in the Arctic is a cause for concern.
Another large-scale military exercise of the Alliance was recently held in northern Norway.
We also had Russia fly fighters over Swedish territory, an island, with nuclear weapons, armed with nuclear weapons.
Who will strike first?
Perhaps it'll be Russia.
Perhaps Russia will say, your increased military presence is a threat to us and just hit NATO forces.
Maybe that's what NATO wants.
Justification.
I think NATO wants to get involved.
We got it from the Democrats.
CBS Evening News reports, members of President Biden's own party, like Democratic Senator Chris Coons, say it's time for the President to consider sending in U.S.
troops to Ukraine to help fight Russia.
The President has repeatedly said he won't.
Yeah, it's very unpopular.
With an election coming up, you don't want to lose.
Trump will get in, this will all be over.
But, what if someone strikes NATO ships?
What if we see another Gulf of Tonkin incident?
What if Finland says, oh no, we've been hit, we're sinking?
And then US says, we have to intervene, Russia has gone too far, we are obligated under, you know, certain treaties.
What if he hits NATO forces?
What if it's an accident?
Either way.
What if there's a false flag?
I don't know.
We stand on the edge of a very serious conflict.
CBS News reports the transcript.
Margaret Brennan says, in some public remarks this week, you said the country needs to talk about when it might be willing to send troops to Ukraine.
You said if the answer is never, then we are inviting another level of escalation and brutality by Putin.
Are you arguing that President Biden was wrong when he said he would not send troops to Ukraine?
Are you asking him to set a red line?
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Hey guys, Josh Hammer here, the host of America on Trial with Josh Hammer, a podcast for the First Podcast Network.
Look, there are a lot of shows out there that are explaining the political news cycle, what's happening on the Hill, the this, the that.
There are no other shows that are cutting straight to the point when it comes to the unprecedented lawfare debilitating Coons goes on.
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I think those of us in Congress who have a critical role in setting foreign policy and in advising the President in terms of his decision as Commander-in-Chief need to look clearly at the level of brutality.
This is a moment of enormous challenge for all of us.
And I deeply respect Biden's leadership, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But this is a critical moment.
If Vladimir Putin, who has shown us how brutal he can be, is allowed to just continue to massacre civilians, to commit war crimes throughout Ukraine without NATO, without the West coming more forcefully to his aid, I great, I great, I deeply worry that what's going to happen next is that we will see Ukraine turn into Syria.
The American people cannot turn away from this tragedy in Ukraine.
I think the history of the 21st century turns on how fiercely we defend freedom in Ukraine, and that Putin will only stop when we stop him.
I'll close with this, Margaret.
This is a weekend when so many families gather to celebrate the very best in the human spirit, and where we grieve the loss of many of those due to COVID.
We should also be prayerful and mindful of those who are fighting for freedom in Ukraine, and how much their heroism and patriotism inspires the rest of us.
Troops on the ground.
Yeah, okay.
World War III, then?
If that's what you want.
I certainly don't.
How could it start?
How about this?
Newsweek says Russian chemical weapons in Ukraine could see NATO troops deployed.
UK.
The UK's Undersecretary of the Armed Forces, James Heapy, has said that all possible options are on the table in terms of how the West might respond.
If accusations that Russia used chemical weapons on Ukraine are confirmed.
We heard this with Peter Doocy as well.
He asked Joe Biden, you know, he said, you alluded to using chemical weapons in Ukraine against the Russians.
He said, if Russia uses chemical weapons, we'll respond in kind.
Biden said, that doesn't mean that it means, you know, we're going to respond with, you know, force.
And then Ducey's like, what does that mean?
I ain't telling you.
It could mean NATO troops.
But what's the likelihood Russia's actually going to use chemical weapons?
Well, NATO certainly thinks it's likely or possible.
Euronews reported on March 25th, chemical weapons, NATO to provide Ukraine with equipment to counter Russian threat.
We've already heard the propaganda.
We've heard the statements to Congress.
When Marco Rubio said to the Undersecretary of State that, you know, if there's a chemical or biological weapon in attack in Ukraine, you have, there's no doubt in your mind that it would be the Russians.
Nuland said it would be the Russians.
And if that happens, they're going to say, oh, well, now we have to go in.
That's our red line.
I mean, we've got we've got U.S.
troops in Syria.
When did that happen?
Right.
How long until we just go on the ground in Ukraine?
Perhaps soon.
We have this story from iNews.
Sweden and Finland joining NATO could tip the balance against Russia in a way that creates new problems.
Oh, man.
Russia warned him not to do it.
Sana Merin, Finnish Prime Minister.
I mean, they've expressed very serious desire to join NATO.
And if they do, would Russia retaliate?
Would Russia say, Europe has fallen to our enemies and we must fight back?
I think that's what's already happening.
Now, some have said that it's going to be a limited operation.
Take a look at this map from the BBC.
Areas of Russian military control in Ukraine.
We can see Ukrainian counterattacks happening up through the north of Ukraine, near Kiev.
We have split between Russian military control and Ukrainian counterattacks near Kharkiv.
But when you look at the eastern Donbass region, all the way down to Crimea, Putin is winning.
This is one of the latest updates.
Take a look at this.
The eastern region is under Russian military control.
They've created their land bridge to Crimea.
Luhansk, Donetsk, Kursan, and Crimea, of course.
And Russia is advancing near Mykolaiv.
Probably pronouncing that wrong.
But what about this story from the AP?
Russia hits Lviv, prepares for an assault in eastern Ukraine.
This is what we were worried about.
Now, I was told by people all Putin's gonna do is gonna split the country in half down the Dnipro River.
I think that's the name of it.
That's not what we're seeing.
He's hitting the east.
Nah.
Putin does not want NATO sympathetic government in Ukraine.
For those that aren't familiar, I'll put it this way.
When I was on the ground in Kiev talking with people, the way it was presented to me is that Yanukovych, the previous president, was playing both sides.
He was going to the West, he was like, what are you going to give me?
He was going to Russia, what are you going to give me?
And he kept leveraging them against each other.
The U.S.
was basically like, yo, we don't like that.
And there was a lot of Western sympathy in Ukraine, particularly in Western cities like Kiev.
And so, protesters ousted Yanukovych in support, saying, we don't want to have anything to do with Russia.
People in the city there told me, we know the horrors of the Soviet Union and what Russia did back in the 1930s.
We know how bad it was under the Soviet Union up until the early 90s, it was bad.
And it's still been bad, even though it's been 30 or so years.
They didn't want to have anything to do with Russia's new federation, new trade federation.
So, Yanukovych was ousted.
But they kind of felt like he was playing both sides.
The new administration that came in, I think it may have been Poroshenko, I'm not sure.
I think it was a temporary guy and then Poroshenko.
Pro-West.
Zelensky, pro-West.
Now Russia's like, I lost all leverage.
There's not even a negotiation anymore.
The new guys that are coming in are just pushing us off.
No.
So Russia won't let go.
He's going to secure it all.
He's going to crush the current government of Ukraine.
I think soft power is like... You know, it could be bad because you get corruption, manipulation, but it's better than war.
You want to fight a conflict, do it with influence and resources and wealth.
There's problems there, but it's better than people going to war.
I don't know.
So where this ends, I just can't imagine a scenario where Russia is just happy with it.
Where Russia's just like, you know, we lost, but okay, whatever.
Russia says, mass strikes launched in Ukraine.
Yeah, they're hitting the West now.
They're hitting the West, East and the West.
I'll at least point out this, just because, yeah, World War III.
Here you go.
Seven times World War 3 has been wrongly declared or predicted.
No, this is just- it honestly is a stupid article.
I bring it up because I'm like, I recognize the stupidity of being like, World War 3!
They mentioned a few things.
The 16th century.
Nostradamus followers keep saying it's coming.
Yo, I remember back when Israel launched, I think it was Protective Edge.
People were like, this could be World War III, man.
And the reason was, they were like, if they start going in and crushing Palestine right now, a thing so hot, Iran could strike, forcing Russia in, and then all of a sudden, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Conflict in the Middle East.
Is that really gonna be the catalyst?
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Many people thought the Cold War was World War III, but it never really got to that point.
Then we have these ones.
2016, Trump predicts we could have had World War III.
Oh, come on.
Could have?
Elon Musk says AI may prompt the conflict, but he says it begins, and he's just talking about a fight over artificial intelligence.
Trump suggests Obama's handling of North Korea could have... That's not a prediction or a declaration.
Former Ukrainian PM, World War III has already begun.
Oh, wait.
So it's not just Russia?
It's also Ukraine?
So Ukraine and Russian influences are saying World War III started?
Okay.
Maybe not.
Maybe.
Maybe it doesn't matter.
We didn't call World War One World War One.
There's a funny joke.
I can't remember what show I was watching, but someone traveled back in time to World War One.
And then it might have been Legends of Tomorrow.
No, I don't think it was that.
It could have been some DC thing.
And then someone's like, they said something like, They called it World War I. And then the person went, World War I?
What do you mean?
Like, it implies there are more.
Because they just called it the Great War back then.
History is condensed.
And written by the victors.
So right now, we could be in a conflict of global strife.
It could be civil war happening here.
We just had a Black Lives Matter protester point a gun at a guy in his car.
Here we go again.
As the temperature warms up, things light up.
Maybe he'll stay calm, but With these elections coming up, man, I think we're just in a lull period.
Wait till November and see how, when Republicans sweep, see how bad it gets 2023 to 2024.
Or maybe it won't.
I don't know.
We could be sitting in World War III.
It could be said in 50 years, World War III began with the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and we won't know until it escalates.
So do right by your family and take care of yourselves.
Figure out what you need to do.
I don't have all the answers for you.
I can only show you the news as it comes.
I can't see the future.
Hindsight is 20-20.
For the time being, this is the information we have, and maybe it's nothing.
Maybe we're just incorrectly predicting World War III, Putin backs off, cries, and goes to bed.
Maybe it's something worse.
I don't know.
I'll leave it there.
Next segment is coming up at 8 p.m.
over at youtube.com slash timcastirl.
Thanks for hanging out, and I will see you all then.
Alex Jones's InfoWars has filed for bankruptcy along with two other companies associated with Alex Jones.
This is coming after the lawsuits filed against him by the parents in Sandy Hook, and it appears that he's lost.
Now, Alex says that he doesn't have a whole lot of money, but he's now being sued again.
They're accusing him of hiding something like, I think it's $18 million by funneling it away Because of the lawsuit.
Alex Jones' lawyers say that's absurd, they just don't have that much money, and they actually have massive debt.
Now, personally, I find it hard to believe that Alex Jones' InfoWars would be that broke.
I don't know how much money the guy makes, and admittedly, he lost a lot when he got banned across the board.
He went from being on top to being back, you know, with his own private website.
Alex Jones does get tons of views.
He does sell his own products, so I'd have to imagine he's at least still making a large sum of money.
But from my understanding, Jones getting banned was huge.
I mean, it took away a lot of his revenue.
It didn't stop him.
But this lawsuit is something else.
You know, I'll be the first to say Alex Jones should not have defamed the families involved in the Sandy Hook tragedies.
And, you know, I think Alex now recognizes that he was wrong when he was claiming that there was a false flag or something like that.
You see, the parents in Sandy Hook They're private citizens.
They're not public figures, so the standard for defamation is actually rather low.
For Alex Jones, as this massive broadcaster, to come out and say the things he was saying about them, that they were crisis actors or whatever, we'll go through the specifics, I don't want to accuse Alex of anything either, but, you know, effectively saying that it was staged or something like that, yo, you don't play those games.
I wouldn't stand for CNN doing it.
When CNN went after the guy who made the meme, I'll call him out.
When CNN went after, there was a guy who made a meme, and there was another guy who posted a video of Nancy Pelosi.
When these big news organizations go after private citizens, I'm like, nah, dude.
Now, to be fair, I don't like it when they go after anybody with lies.
Alex Jones, say what you want, he was wrong about this one, and so for that you get sued.
Can I just point out one thing though?
It's really, really annoying that when these big media companies constantly do this, they almost never get held to account.
But, I do gotta point out Covington, kids.
I mean, Nick Sandman did get a settlement from many of these media companies.
I believe those cases, some of them, still may be ongoing because there are a lot of people involved.
This Sandman kid, man, he may be comfortable for some time.
I don't think he's getting $250 million or anything like that.
Maybe he got $100 grand, who knows?
And he probably smiled and said, dude, I'll take it.
But look, the media wants to smear somebody, you get accountability.
And when they got held to account because of Covington kids, well, there you go.
I gotta say though, in my view of what's happening with Alex Jones is, it's going a bit above and beyond.
Jones apparently offered to settle with the families for like $120,000 each, and they rejected it, saying they wanted a public reckoning or something.
And they're in like, it's kind of weird.
Alex Jones has already apologized.
He's already said he was wrong.
He already offered to pay.
You won.
Why keep going?
Well, I do think politics plays a role in this because right now there are a bunch of political individuals who are cheering on the shutting down or the bankruptcy of InfoWars.
I don't believe bankruptcy will stop Alex Jones from doing the work he's doing.
In fact, I think bankruptcy is protecting him.
That's what these people don't understand.
I'm seeing these people on Twitter like, yes!
Jones is filing for bankruptcy!
And they're all cheering for it, and I'm like, yo, bankruptcy just means he can keep going on with his work, and his business will keep running, and you can't take the money from him.
So it's a good thing for him.
It's protection.
He's filing Chapter 11, I guess.
I want to talk about this story, but I also want to talk about Elon Musk, because I think there's a bit of an overlap in the attack on speech.
There are powerful interests, and Veritas as well, There are powerful interests that will fund lawsuits, and they will find that attack vector.
And we saw it start, not necessarily start, but we saw a big play with Hulk Hogan and Peter Thiel.
Peter Thiel paid the, I believe, it's been a long time since I covered the story, but funded Hulk Hogan's lawsuit against Gawker and basically destroyed Gawker.
But Gawker was gutter trash.
Well, we all cheer for that, now they're all cheering for Alex Jones filing for bankruptcy.
You see, here's what you gotta understand, though.
Take everything from him.
Take everything from Alex Jones.
And what is left?
Alex Jones.
The dude could take a cell phone and make a successful show.
People like watching him.
That will never be taken away.
Gawker was a faceless organization that was crushed, and now its rotting zombie corpse plagues the internet with more trash articles as they keep trying to resurrect it.
As an individual, Jones is effectively, his media presence is It's never ending.
Well, let's get started with talking about what's going on with this InfoWars bankruptcy suit.
And then with Elon Musk, the news is that they just enacted the poison pill right away.
And there's some there's questions about the political play here.
Could it be that the reason the Twitter board is trying to block Elon Musk is because once he gets access to the company, he'll see they lied under oath to Congress?
Perhaps.
Is it possible that powerful special interests are not interested in money?
They're going after people like Alex Jones.
They're going after people like Elon Musk.
They do not want the machine to be challenged.
They want ideological control of these machines.
The reason, you know, I want to make sure I can show you, I can explain this connection better, because they do seem to be separate stories, but I think you get it.
Many people got banned, right?
There is an effort to silence Alex Jones, Donald Trump, Milo Yiannopoulos, Laura Loomer, prominent right-wing personalities.
And it's been particularly effective, not at getting rid of their voices, but at least damaging their businesses.
Now, as you know, TimCast has been under siege, but You know, what they're, what they're doing to us is, for the most part, is just threatening our lives to something entirely different.
But we do have activists coming after us.
We're just too, I guess, milquetoast to really be on the radar of a lot of these big players.
And, you know, we don't play, we don't, we don't do the things that many of the other outlets do.
We're fairly middle of the road.
You know, almost like real journalism.
Hmm, hard to go after.
Here's the story from the New York Times.
Alex Jones' InfoWars files for bankruptcy.
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As a member, you get access to exclusive episodes of the TimCast IRL Podcast.
We had an excellent religion discussion with Michael Knowles and Jeremy Boring of the Daily Wire.
And you're helping keep our journalists employed, which is incredibly important.
I'm, you know, I explain to people and they're like, what's your end goal, Tim?
And I said, look, I could buy a Ferrari, right?
I don't want a Ferrari.
I want a newsroom that does a good job.
And that means that news needs to be readily available to people so they can see the facts.
That's a challenge.
How do you sell a product that needs to be free?
If your ethos is information should be free, how do you monetize that?
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The New York Times writes, three companies affiliated with far-right broadcaster and conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, among them, the media outlet InfoWars, filed for Chapter 11 protection on Sunday in U.S.
bankruptcy court for the Southern District of Texas, according to court documents.
InfoWars is facing multiple defamation lawsuits from families of the victims of Sandy Hook.
We know that.
Two other companies connected to Mr. Jones, I.W.
Health and Prison Planet TV, also filed for bankruptcy protection on Sunday.
Last September, Mr. Jones lost two defamation lawsuits filed in Texas by victims' families because he failed to provide requested information to the court.
Months later, in a case representing the families of eight others involved in the shooting, uh, other families involved, a Connecticut judge ruled that Mr. Jones was liable by default because he had refused to turn over documents ordered by the courts, including financial records.
The rulings delivered sweeping victories for the families.
And I want to pause there.
My understanding is that that's, uh, well, I'll put it this way.
I have spoken to Mr. Jones and asked him a while ago.
What he said was these default rulings actually have, like, a time period contingency.
It's not that he just lost.
It's that he's in default, and now he has six months to not be in default.
So they call it a sweeping victory, but At least what I'm told is it doesn't mean they've lost.
More importantly, Jones' lawyers maintain they did provide all of the information, but the courts wouldn't accept it.
They said, no, it's not all the information.
They're accusing Alex Jones of hidings.
Check this out.
The AP report on April 8th.
Alex Jones accused of hiding assets over Sandy Hook lawsuits.
They're saying, I think it's $18 million.
Jones is accused of drawing about $18 million from his InfoWars company over three years, starting in 2018 when the lawsuits were filed.
He's also, Jones is also accused of claiming a dubious $54 million debt around that time to another company, which the lawsuit alleges is indirectly or directly owned by Jones.
Now, I reached out to Jones about the filing, and I think he's going to, I think he may already have a statement out, but the general idea is that this is going to put everything on the table.
They want to accuse him of hiding money.
Filing for bankruptcy means the court is going to get all of his documentation.
Perhaps that's the strategy.
If he gives all of the documents to the court, and they say, nope, we don't accept it, you're in default, what are you supposed to do?
If you don't, how do you give documents you don't have?
Well, file for bankruptcy, give the courts every record for your business, and then that court's going to be like, no, that's everything.
You can't deny that.
Now you can accuse Alex Jones of lying or hiding money or whatever.
That's fine.
I don't know.
I don't have access to his documents.
And I gotta say, fault starts with Alex.
He's the one who defamed these private citizens.
They have a right to sue him.
But certainly at a certain point, it does seem like there are special interests that are just going for the destruction of InfoWars.
I mean, so many people are cheering for this.
They say Mr. Jones for years spread bogus theories that it was, you know, part of a government plot what happened in Sandy Hook.
Because of the falsehoods, families of the victims have found themselves routinely accosted by those who believe the false claims.
Among those are the parents of Noah Posner, who have moved nearly 10 times and live in hiding.
The Sandy Hook families maintain that Jones profited from spreading lies about their relatives about the tragedy.
Jones has disputed that while for years failing to provide sufficient records to bolster his claims.
Here's the challenge.
While Alex Jones was making these claims, he was making money.
It's hard to know if the money was made from those claims, but I can only say this.
You know, I'm very careful with language for one reason.
It's not really about getting sued, it's about being right.
So, you'll notice when I'm not sure, I'll say, it's being reported about this because we can't verify these claims.
I don't want, and I'll say this too, Often there are stories I won't cover unless there's hard proof.
Sometimes there are stories that are hard to verify, but are such so expansive or, you know, overwhelmingly seem to be the case.
I'll cover them, but I will always make sure to say, hey, fact check this, guys.
This one's tough.
I want to be careful.
It's not about being sued.
It's about doing the right thing.
I want to contribute to you having a better understanding of the world so you can understand what's going on with stories like this.
You know, for instance, I just did the video about the threats against me.
Many people said, do not talk about it.
And I said, shouldn't people know what is happening in the world?
And if this was a different personality, we'd have said everything that we could.
For security and safety reasons, we do often try and, you know, keep certain specifics under wraps.
And I did.
Like, we don't want to compromise any investigations.
But I think you need to have at least a general understanding of how the world works if you're going to vote properly, if you're going to understand deep moral and philosophical questions about all this.
They say, last month, a Connecticut judge found the radio host in contempt for failing to sit for a deposition.
In order to let him be fined $25,000 for the first weekday, he fails to appear for testimony.
Now, I don't know exactly what happened here, and I haven't talked to Alex about it, but apparently he said he had a medical issue, but then appeared on his show, and so they're accusing him of lying.
In court filings, InfoWars said it had up to 49 creditors, as much as $50,000 in assets, and up to $10 million in estimated liabilities.
The two other companies said they also had up to 49 creditors, with IW Health stating it had up to $1 million in assets, while Prison Planet TV said it had up to $50,000.
This I believe.
IW Health, what is that, InfoWars Health?
They probably do hold, they're the sales arm.
They are what makes the money for Jones.
If Alex Jones is running Infowars but spending money on production and then selling his own products, it stands to reason the products are where the money is at.
Filing for Chapter 11 protection allows a corporation or partnership to reorganize according to the government.
The business may propose a plan to keep running and to pay creditors over a period of time.
So what may happen is that Alex Jones may end up being liable for the lawsuits.
But bankruptcy will allow him to take the money and disperse it as needed to maintain the business.
So if you get sued, and they're like, yo, it's 50 million, and you're like, well, I can't pay you the 50 million if I go out of business, right?
Okay, the protection means if I get a million bucks a month, then I gotta use 800 for costs, and 200, you know, then there's a certain amount of money that needs to be put in, you know, emergency funds.
You might only end up paying 20 to 50,000 per month to the people who've sued you.
I mean, what are you going to do?
There's something called judgment proof, and it's where someone is broke, so suing them is pointless.
And then, those people, they typically can come after you, and it's, what do you do?
How do you sue them?
In this instance, Jones seems to need bankruptcy protection.
Now, I want to move over to the story about Elon Musk, because I do think there's an overlap with the attack on free speech.
Though there's not too many big developments, I do think it's still important to mention in this greater segment.
Somebody, uh, this is General Flynn.
I don't know if it's THE General Flynn, but there's a post going around claiming it's from Flynn saying, Hey Elon, have you considered that Twitter is blocking your offer because they were afraid you'd obtain documents proving they shadowban and censor, which would contradict sworn testimony made before Congress?
This could be an Enron-type scenario you've uncovered.
Let's get this to Elon, I want these bastards exposed for the corrupt, smug, arrogant thugs they are.
Perhaps.
Twitter has officially filed its poison pill plan with the SEC.
This is why I bring these things together.
I genuinely think Alex Jones erred when he accused the Sandy Hook families of being part of some plot.
I do, however, think that there are special interests who will make any possible move for political power.
That is to say, there are probably a lot of people who are Who are looking to go after Alex Jones at any chance they can get.
The same with Donald Trump.
The same with any of these other personalities.
I think for us here at TimCast is that we're so standard, run-of-the-mill, milquetoast.
The only real strategy against us is death threats.
Because we don't do anything.
I pull up stories.
I talk about them.
I try and be honest, truthful, respectful, and careful.
So what happens?
Death threats.
As for everybody else, they'll hit you in the pocketbook.
The poison pill story is interesting because Elon Musk, perhaps he'll uncover illicit dealings.
I don't know.
But there are powerful interests.
There are big organizations, wealthy organizations, that are refusing to take a premium deal from Elon Musk.
He's offering them more money than the stock is worth.
Cash out!
Take the money!
Why keep it?
Why cross your fingers?
Well, perhaps it's a fair point that, you know, in a year Twitter will be worth more money.
That's the idea.
But it's ridiculous.
Twitter, I mean, may be worth more money by virtue of inflation, but the company is struggling.
At least that's what Reuters reported.
What did they say?
You know, it was just underperforming.
Serial underperformer, they said.
Why would you invest in Twitter?
It's been a long time, but I'm pretty sure I had Twitter stock a while ago when it was trading really low, like 15 bucks, and someone convinced me to sell it, saying, like, look what they're doing to the company.
I'm like, that's a good point.
Banning all of these people is bad business.
It's not good for business.
They're gonna lose users.
You don't like Alex Jones?
Well, how many millions of people quit Twitter because, like, that's the only reason they were there?
Getting rid of your actual entertainment?
Fine.
Twitter can become an activist microblog and everyone else will go somewhere else and you'll make substantially less money.
Bad investment.
Elon Musk comes in.
I bought 22 shares.
About a thousand bucks.
Not that big.
But I did.
Why?
I'm like, this is good.
Elon's gonna fix the company.
Stock's gonna be worth it.
It's a good investment.
Now these dirty games are being played with the poison pill.
Perhaps they will not allow Elon Musk to actually gain control of the company.
And perhaps the real reason?
Political power.
There are these big companies.
Vanguard, BlackRock, State Street.
You control enough of these companies and you have power.
The power of Twitter is the political discourse.
If you can control political discourse and conversations, you can make or break any of your investments.
I mean, think about it.
If I own Twitter, my company, I can be like, hey, we don't like it when anti-establishment individuals criticize us.
Ban them.
What are you gonna do?
It's a private business, I can do what I want.
Let's say I launch a product.
Let's say I launch a book, Tales from the Inverted World, Ghosts of the Civil War, coming soon.
We're really excited for this book.
Is TimCast.com going to disparage its own product?
No.
So then what happens is, pop culture crisis, one of our shows, maybe they want to critique the culture that is Tales from the Inverted World.
I say no.
Right?
Now, in reality, I wouldn't.
If the guys over at Pop Culture, if the crew over at Pop Culture Crisis didn't like Tales from the Inverted World and want to talk about it and said they didn't like it, then, you know, fine.
If it got, you know, licensed into a movie or something and then they made fun of it, I'd be like, well, you know, these things happen.
Because that's how I operate.
That's why I, you know, that's my mission.
But do you think big companies like Vanguard are going to be happy with Twitter allowing people to disparage all of their other properties?
Better yet, do you think they'd be happy if someone on Twitter is promoting their stocks and making them more money?
Well, of course.
Of course they would.
It's political power.
That's the power of Twitter.
And that being said, I'll also give an honorable mention to our good friends over at Tesla, because when you pull up the data as of April 14th from CNN Business, guess who the biggest stake is listed?
The top 10 owners.
Vanguard, Capital Research, BlackRock, and State Street.
I think it's State Street.
It's SSGA.
I think that's State Street Global Advisors.
It says SSGA Funds Management.
So maybe, maybe not.
But either way, Vanguard and BlackRock are right at the top.
They got stock in Tesla.
They got stock in Twitter.
We're sitting here saying, like, whoa, something shady is going on with Elon Musk.
It's like, yeah, well, you know, they hold stock in his company, too.
I think Elon's the biggest shareholder in, I thought he was.
Pretty sure he is, because, yeah, if you look at Vanguard Group's total value, it's $63 billion held in Tesla.
Now that's interesting.
I don't know exactly how it all breaks down, but the point is, yeah, I don't trust anybody.
You know, it's all one big happy family tree, isn't it?
This doesn't mean Elon Musk is a bad guy.
No, I think what he's doing is good.
I think this may be one of the most important battles in the culture war.
I mentioned earlier that if they wipe out InfoWars, Alex Jones still exists, and he can take a cell phone and he'll be able to do his show, even if they take his studio from him and everything.
If Elon Musk gets Twitter and they put Jones back on Twitter, it will help him massively in the event of... This is why I think we've got to pay attention to the big picture, media and big tech social media.
We'll see how things play out with Alex.
I'll leave it there.
Next segment's coming up at 4 p.m.
over at youtube.com slash timcast.
Thanks for hanging out, and I'll see you all then.
The TimCast crew has made it back from Nashville, and boy, did we have a blast.
We got to hang out with basically everybody.
I got to join backstage live, hanging out.
It was Andrew Clavin, Michael Knowles, Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro, Jeremy Boring.
We did this really cool setup where in the middle of IRL, I get up from the show, there's a remote camera, it plugs into our feed, and then backstage live is on both, because I'm on their show, they're my guests.
I'm, you know, So they're on my show, I'm on their show, we're both each other's guests for this big show, and it was really, really amazing.
We even got to do a special episode with Ben Shapiro, which wasn't live, we had to pre-record it, but that went up yesterday with Jonathan Isaac as well, NBA star, just a really, really great time hanging out there.
But something else happened, which is the point of this story.
Tim Pool cancels Nashville's show after credible death threat against his life surfaces.
Yes, this is true, and it's not completely unusual.
So, I don't have all of the details, it was not my venue, but let me just break it down.
We had John Rich, legendary country musician, all-around great dude, on the show.
And during the show, someone super chatted us saying, John, are you going to take Tim out in the caddy and, you know, show him around town?
And John was like, you want to ride in the Cadillac?
And I'm like, yes, yes, sir!
Amazing!
And then he was like, why don't we go down to my venue, Redneck Riviera?
We'll jam a little bit.
And I was like, oh, I don't know if we could do that.
Are you sure?
Because I'm sure someone's going to be playing, they'll be booked, and then we're going to boot him off stage.
And he's like, You know, we'll throw him a big tip.
I'm sure they'll be happy for the break.
We'll jam for a little bit.
We'll do a show, you know, and I'm like, let's do it.
Let's do it.
So that was the plan.
Saturday at 1.30, our plan was to show up to this venue and to hang out on stage.
Now, there are some issues there, right?
It's not just about me.
It's also John Rich!
I mean, the dude's a mega celebrity, like a superstar.
And so I'm thinking, like, this is gonna be crazy.
Like, for one, I know our fans are gonna want to be there, but John Rich is also gonna be there.
Like, it's gonna be amazing!
You know, I really felt it was going to be magical.
It was going to be a one-of-a-kind thing where you're just hanging out in downtown Nashville and you've got this country music superstar.
Then you've got the crew from Timcast.
We're all playing music and hanging out.
It would have been packed.
It would have been incredible.
Well, the morning as we were getting ready to make our way to- we were packing up our gear, getting ready to go out and head to meet up with Jon, a phone call apparently came in, a direct death threat against me.
That's fine.
I don't care.
I said- I was like, I don't care, let him- this stuff happens all the time.
You know, guys.
There are some deep moral questions pertaining to talking about things like this.
And there are a lot of people who are like, don't ever talk about it, ignore it.
And I'm just like, that really pisses me off.
If this was any other news outlet, any other commentator, any other event, we would be talking about it.
I would be talking about it.
But because it's about me, I shouldn't.
And people say, one of the things is like, you manifested, you keep bringing it up.
And I'm like, So if this was Jeremy from The Quartering, and I'm bringing him up specifically, but if something bad was happening to him, by telling people they're targeting him, I'm making it worse, I don't agree with that.
Jeremy covered what happened, and I, okay, absolutely, because we talk about this stuff, and we should, because it's a huge component in the problems we face right now in the culture war.
But I'll, you know, I'll get into, you know, I'll mention a little bit about his video and other videos too in a second, but tremendous respect for Jeremy and for him wanting to cover this and all that stuff.
So when people tell me I shouldn't, I'm like, I look at it the same way.
If something was going to happen to him, I'd definitely be talking about it.
But let's go back to what happens with this phone call.
I tell him right away, I don't care.
Let him come.
I get emails all the time.
Uh, you know, every so often you'll get an email and it says something threatening or it's a veiled threat because people try to be careful.
You know, we did an event a few years ago and they threatened to burn the theater down.
You think I'm exaggerating?
Let me see.
Here we go.
From the Philadelphia Inquirer.
After threats and outrage led New Jersey theater to cancel a conference on racism, free speech, advocates meet in Philly.
I just think cancel culture is getting completely out of control.
Yeah, so we tried to put on an event.
It was headlined by Daryl Davis, famed opponent of racism.
Just a guy who convinced Klan members to, you know, leave the Klan and give away their robes to him, and he's a black jazz musician.
And they threatened to burn the theater down.
These things happen all the time.
When that happened, I said, F'em.
We're doing the show.
The theater refused.
And I said, you can't breach the contract.
We warned you about this, and we told you you needed security.
We planned that a year in advance, almost.
And they were like, we're not doing it.
We don't care.
We'd rather you sue us, and we'd rather we lose, than deal with the threats of having the theater burned down.
So, let's go back to Redneck Rivera.
I said, they can threaten me.
I'm gonna do the event.
Well, here's the problem.
They actually apprehended a guy.
He wasn't charged with anything.
I don't know too much, and I can't say too much because, of what I do know, because there's probably an ongoing investigation.
But somebody was actually detained, the police were involved, and it appeared that, at least this is how it was explained to me, and, you know, somebody actually was trying to make an attempt.
And they were caught early, or something happened.
I don't know what that means.
I honestly, I don't believe it.
I've seen what was sent, and I'll just say, like, there was a guy.
There was some weird stuff going on, and they believed that someone was plotting something.
I don't know what's going to happen with all of that.
I don't.
What I do know is that once they told me that, I said, well, what's our real risk assessment then?
I mean, if the police know about this, they're like, look, man, you know, John, especially, he's a good dude.
He's just like, you got kids out here in Nashville, man.
You know, he tweeted about this a little bit and I was like, that's it.
Dude, you're right.
It's not about me.
I can stand up and pound my chest and be an arrogant, cocky little, you know, prick all I want and be like, I'm going to do a show.
I don't care about none of this.
And there's going to be a 10-year-old kid walking down the street in downtown Nashville with his parents going to buy an ice cream cone, and if some lunatic storms in and tries doing something, it's not about me.
It's about the people who are around me.
Which brings us to some of the deeper philosophical questions.
Because obviously, there's concerns that we have here.
We do have security.
We are armed.
We take this all very seriously.
And of course, we've been swatted eight times.
We've had the bomb squad deployed, and now this.
Here's the fascinating thing.
Here's the fascinating thing.
You know, there's people asking questions like, man, why is Tim so hot right now?
Like, why is this happening?
I'm not!
Look.
It's a public venue.
I have a million followers on Twitter.
We get millions of views on the podcast.
One of the most, one of the biggest podcasts, I guess.
I don't know.
It's hard to track podcast metrics, but I'll put it this way.
Some of the biggest podcasts on iTunes only get a couple hundred thousand views per episode.
Timcast IRL gets just over about a hundred thousand per episode on iTunes, so we're not ranking all that high there, but we get 400,000 to 500,000 unique viewers per episode in less than 24 hours on YouTube.
So we're getting 600,000 to 700,000, plus the clips we put up get another million or so.
So, all in all, we end up getting, like, I think on just that show alone, we end up with around, like, one point something, no, no, no, maybe it's like 900 to a million unique viewers every day on this podcast.
So it's certainly big.
Getting death threats is normal, all right?
The issue is, no one tells you it happens.
And the truth is, neither do I. When I get threats, when I get emails, I usually just ignore it.
I ignore it.
What are you gonna do?
Am I gonna be like, guess I can't go to the gas station anymore?
No, I'm gonna live my life.
And you recognize that when you're on the top, I'm not saying I'm on the tippy top, but when you're climbing that mountain, people can look up and they can see you, and they're, I'll put it this way.
Imagine there's a mountain.
Everybody's trying to climb on top.
Not everybody is trying to be the biggest and the best, but they just like climbing.
For me, that's what it's like.
Every day, I like going out there.
I'm building this building.
I'm putting, you know, I'm laying the bricks.
Every day.
Well, eventually, as I'm making my way up this mountain, there is millions of people out at the base of the mountain, many of whom would like to start climbing, many of whom who wouldn't, and they all look up and they see how high I've gotten.
Now, when I look down, I see just a large group of people, but on the ground, they can see just me.
That means I'm a target.
That happens a lot.
The reason this story went out is because I had to announce we were canceling the event.
I will not take responsibility for what some crazy person does, and I will not ignore the serious nature of what's happening, and I will not keep that from people.
There was concern that, you know, as we've been swatted, as we receive death threats, that talking about it will make it worse.
I think people have a right to know.
I think, as I stated, if it was anyone else, we would be talking about it, and so would they.
And I think they should.
I think we should bring this up.
When it came to this event, I had a few options.
I could have said, guys, unfortunately, for an undisclosed reason, we have to cancel the event.
People would have been very, very upset with me.
Many people may still have gone.
I could have said, due to a scheduling conflict, the show is cancelled.
And then people would be really, really upset with me, and I could take that responsibility.
I think that's fair.
I could say, you know what, they can be mad at me, instead of anybody else, if it means the safety of many people.
However, that isn't the safety of many people.
No, what if people end up going to a place where someone threatened me?
And I feel bad for John because it's his venue, but that happened.
And so I tweeted about it.
Because I think people need to know that there was a serious threat.
Because it's not about me.
Even if I don't show up, what if someone else does?
What if someone else shows up kind of looking like me and someone's like, No, I think people should know exactly why it happened and make the appropriate decision for them that I should not withhold or obfuscate the serious nature of what's going on, especially at a public venue.
Now, when it comes to the swattings, when it first happened, it happened live on camera.
Well, that I had to be like, okay, that just happened.
The next several times it happened, there was like, we're in the show and we're told cops are coming up.
Okay, I didn't want to say anything.
I wasn't going to bring it up, but here we go.
The last time it happened, I tweeted it out and just said, it has zero impact on anything we do.
It is a negligible occurrence.
We tell the cops show up every time, they do their sweeps, we're good.
We also have security.
I don't like the idea of living in this world where we hide the realities of the world.
Let me show you a story.
This is from The Independent.
Here's what the image says.
Yes, that was the story.
I didn't cover this, but everybody was outraged.
The horrible things they were saying about the Kardashians.
My friends, let me defend the Kardashians.
Kardashians cut the line, get the ride to themselves, and make us common folk wait and
watch them.
Typical.
It seemed like forever.
Yes, that was the story.
I didn't cover this, but everybody was outraged.
The horrible things they were saying about the Kardashians.
My friends, let me defend the Kardashians.
I think you already know where I'm going with this.
I was stupid.
I'm...
I thought that I could go on my show and be like, we are going to be at this venue and we're going to do a show and it's going to be awesome, a free show, meet and greet fans.
I thought I could do that.
And then sure enough, this is what happened.
We had hung out in downtown Nashville.
I had gone to some of these venues.
We were hanging out at Mellow Mushroom.
Awesome.
We watched a young performer, I forget her name, Kay- Kaylee something Rose.
Sorry, I forgot your name.
But watched her perform and I was like, Nashville's awesome.
And I was like, I'd love to come out and do this.
But you can't announce it on a big show to every person in the world because crazy people will come and hurt you.
Kim Kardashian, when this story happened, you know, I understood.
Everybody was like, they're so mean cutting the line.
Why did they cut the line?
Let me break it down for you.
Disney probably would not let them in the park unless they were escorted by security and kept away from regular people.
When it comes to these venues and threats, we tried putting on a show in 2019 and Antifa threatened to burn the theater down.
The theater would not let us do the show.
It doesn't matter what we want.
I wanted to do it, and we did it.
We just did it at a casino, and the casino laughed.
They were like, you know, let them try to breach our security.
At a casino, ain't gonna happen.
But it cut our capacity in half, and several hundred people were not able to come to the show.
Kim Kardashian wants to go on a ride with her kids.
She deserves to, right?
I know she's super rich, but she should be allowed to go on a ride once.
And now it really does suck for the regular people who watch her cut and can't go on the ride because she's using the teacups.
Seemed like forever.
Seriously, how long is a teacup ride?
5 or 10 minutes?
Something like that?
Disney probably told her.
Disneyland.
Any ride you go on has to be secured.
We cannot have you near patrons.
Why?
I will not be sued by Kim Kardashian if a patron attacks her.
That's what Disney was probably thinking.
She goes to the ride and security says, Ma'am, the only way you're going on this ride is if we keep everyone else off because once you're on that ride, we cannot protect you.
And Kim Kardashian probably gets death threats 50 to 100 times per day.
This is the only way she would actually be able to go on the ride.
Perhaps you say, then, she shouldn't go on the ride.
I lean a little bit that direction, to be completely honest.
I know the life I've chosen.
I've accepted the risks.
What about everybody else?
And therein lies the big problem.
What about everybody else?
She can't go on the ride at all.
She can choose to walk away.
And I say lean a little bit in that direction.
Right.
Imagine she went on this ride and said, I want to go on the ride.
I will not keep people out.
I accept those risks.
And then a crazy person jumps out of their teacup, rushes to attack Kim Kardashian.
Hurts a child.
At Disneyland.
Disneyland has security and all that stuff, for sure.
But a person need only their fists.
Or a belt.
Or even a shoe.
I mean, a shoe's probably not gonna hurt someone too bad, but they could seriously hurt a child.
What if they get out and cause damage to the ride?
You don't know.
And therein lies the big challenge.
You know, everybody wants to be on top.
Until they realize...
You know, the higher up you are, the longer the fall, the easier it is, you know, you're a target.
High ground has its advantages, of course, but not when the base, when you're one person surrounded by millions.
Certainly, you have a high ground advantage being rich.
You can buy security.
You can afford to, you know, go on rides by yourself and things like that.
But now you have to.
Let's talk about those deep moral conundrums, all right?
I want to talk about deep moral conundrums.
I want to talk about psychology in happiness.
The one thing, one piece of advice I got when I was younger.
I was hanging out at this event.
It's like a campaign fundraiser when I was like 21 or something.
And this guy said, don't be famous.
Just be rich.
Don't make that mistake.
Sometimes you don't have a choice.
I mean, sometimes, like, the work you do makes you famous.
And if you want to do that work, you will be famous.
With all the risks.
Being rich is better.
Being rich, you can walk around and nobody knows who you are.
I mean, maybe you're wearing really nice shoes and some bad guy sees those nice shoes and says, that guy's rich.
You can still hire a bodyguard.
But for the most part, anonymity.
You can walk into a restaurant, nobody says anything to you.
For me, People seem- it must be nice, you know, they run up to you and they say how much they respect you and they love your work.
I- having cars honk at me, especially in Nashville.
For sure.
Except when you've got far-left extremists who threaten you.
So it's- it's pros and cons.
You can be rich without being famous.
You can be famous without being rich.
That's probably the worst of it.
High-profile YouTubers who don't make money but are known by everybody?
That's a tough life to live.
This article from The Cut that I pulled up talks about a classic psychology study on why winning the lottery won't make you happier.
They make it really, really simple, okay?
It's a long-known story that a lottery winner, one year after winning, registers the same level of happiness as a paraplegic one year after their accident.
And that's truly crazy.
And that's why, you know, I think for a lot of people who have contemplated self-harm or anything like that, it's like, you can make it through.
You really, really can.
No matter how bad life is.
Because happiness, it really is relative.
Now, of course, I'm sure most people would prefer to be rich and content than, you know, seriously injured and content.
I don't know, for sure.
But to these individuals in their lives, they figure it out.
Humans adapt.
So the question is, is it really worth climbing to the top of the mountain?
Will you really be happier?
The truth is, no, you won't.
Seriously, you won't.
You won't.
I don't wake up every day and think, how can I be famous?
There are many circumstances where I turn down going on shows because I don't know if I need more of that.
We're working on building up other shows on TimCast.com, like Tales from the Inverted World and Pop Culture Crisis.
We want to do more shows, but we really need to establish these.
And their original shows that we launched, we didn't like go out and buy someone else's presence or show.
We just found people that we thought were talented.
I don't need to put marketing behind me personally.
The show does fantastic.
It makes money.
I want to put money behind other shows.
Help other people grow and flourish.
Kind of spread it around because I would not want to live the way, you know, Tom Cruise has to live.
And it's already getting to that point and it's probably inevitable.
I'm as happy as I've been since I was homeless.
And that's just the reality.
You know, I think about it.
What life was like and I'd walk down the street with a smile on my face and my skateboard because I was always challenging myself.
Learning a new trick was all I needed to be like, I did it.
No one else mattered.
Now...
I would, you know, I was like, how do I do it?
How do I succeed?
The question there was really just like, how do I make a living?
How do I survive on this stuff?
When I had like 5,000 Twitter followers, I was like, wow, I made it.
And that was all that mattered.
I had food, I was able to travel around, do whatever I want, incredible.
And then from there, it's just you're laying bricks every single day, building that structure that one day leads you to a position where now you're at risk.
So at a certain point, I say to myself, maybe we don't need to be more famous.
Maybe I don't need to be number one on iTunes.
Maybe it'll happen.
Maybe we can start focusing on other people and we reach that limit.
Because there's pros and there's cons.
So that's the question of happiness.
Now for the deep moral and philosophical questions.
I despise the fact that much of the world is kept secret for most people.
People are concerned right now.
They're like, you got a death threat, Tim?
There's people are saying assassination attempt.
A little up there, uh, okay.
I don't know exactly what was gonna happen, I wouldn't call it that.
I was standing in a parking lot when I got word, and then we got in our car and we left, that was about it, and we went and hung out at John's house.
It wasn't like anyone fired at me and I had to hit the deck and we were like, uh, you know, we never even made it to the venue.
But there was, it appeared to be based on, um, I've been sent information, it looks like some kind of attempt was being made, it was really weird, really creepy stuff.
But so, so there's a conflict of people have said, never talk about it, Tim.
And I'm just like, maybe that's part of the problem.
I'm sick of it.
I am.
I'm absolutely sick of it.
All of these people who are facing these threats are just like, don't tell anyone it's happening.
You don't, don't put it out there.
Don't, you'll make it worse and all that stuff.
I'm like, maybe, but like we had to announce this event.
We had to tell people for their own safety why it was being canceled.
Other people are now talking about it.
We should address it and explain it.
For the Swannings, like, yeah, we're at the point where, you know, I'm keeping count, but now it's like a simple tweet, I'm not gonna address it on the show or anything, I don't wanna waste your time, I don't wanna create, you know, silly interpersonal drama or personal drama.
But I think what people don't realize is how awful things are, and it's because people won't talk about it.
And that's really it.
Messages that I've received being like, I can't believe this happened, I hope you're alright, and I'm like, dude, this happens all the time!
But it's just this one time we had to announce it because it was a public event.
Someone threatened to burn down the theater we were putting an event at.
Like, that was more than just a death threat against me.
This stuff happens all the time.
All.
The.
Time.
It certainly happens to people on the left.
Well, I'll tell you what.
The left won't shut up about it.
And so then Jack Dorsey and the board of Twitter and Facebook bend over backwards, of course to their political advantage, over these issues.
And of course I've had people publish my address on Twitter and they won't take it down.
Many people pointed out if this threat happened to anybody, you know, say like a mainstream journalist at Blue Check Mark at a major company, they'd be on every night, every night and morning show talking about the serious nature of doing journalism.
So, as people sit back, as the far-left extremists threaten to burn down theaters, and then the news story doesn't get covered, the left just says, see?
The left doesn't do anything to the right.
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The right's always just trying to hurt the left.
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The reality is crazy people are trying to hurt everybody.
The left has their share of serious death threats.
It happens.
Happens a lot.
And so does the right.
People on the right are often like, I'm not going to say anything.
So what happens is you get a public perception that right-wingers are unhinged and attacking the left.
Certainly there are people on the right who do talk about it.
The right and the left are just hard to understand terms, really.
But the liberty faction, I'll call it that.
Liberty and the authority, whatever.
There are people on the right who get death threats.
There are people who are more libertarian-leaning, people like us, that get death threats.
They're told, don't say anything, don't tell anybody.
Because if people find out, you can manifest, you can make it worse.
And I'm just like, I'm not gonna... This is a show where I explain to people what's going on, where I talk about what I see, what I think, what I feel.
I despise the world in many ways, the structures that we've created.
The world is beautiful, but I despise these structures where it's like, things are just that way now.
I'm like, I disagree.
You know, I look at how these corporations worked with Vice and Fusion.
I've been to the offices of BuzzFeed and Vox.
I've seen exactly how the machine works, and it's disgusting.
It's a terrible machine.
I don't want to be a part of that.
Now I have people saying, yeah, but Tim, if you do this, other people are at risk.
And I'm like, let this be a message to the people who choose to stand next to me.
There's a target on my forehead and my back and my chest and my crotch and my kneecaps and my elbows.
You want to stand next to that?
You better choose to do that.
Because I am not going to bow out.
When it comes to people who didn't choose to stand next to me, like the innocent people in Nashville, I have no choice.
But when they said, at this event, we're gonna burn it down, I said, okay, well, this is an event I'm putting on, and there's gonna be security.
If you wanna be there, that's your choice.
With Nashville, we didn't have time to set anything up with security.
It was just a public event in downtown Nashville, and I was like, I can't do that.
If we're gonna do an event, we've gotta have serious security, barricades, all that stuff.
That's tough.
It's kind of a crummy way to live, but that's reality.
So, I suppose there's the story.
Shout out to John Rich.
He's amazing.
Tim Pool cancels his show.
John Rich said, I hate this, but downtown Nashville on a Saturday is absolutely packed.
The safety of the people comes first.
I don't talk about every threat we get.
I don't give away information in that regard that could result in Other people being put at risk?
In this instance, I had no choice and we're going to talk about it.
I also think sometimes we should, as much as some people might be like, you can never talk about it, don't tell anybody.
Sometimes, I think for the most part, I want people to understand how the world works.
I did not start doing this job because I wanted to be in a privileged position where I'm safe and protected, and that I can be rich.
No, I like talking about the things I think of, how I feel, philosophical questions, and the news.
Well, all of these things come to a head right now when literally there are stories about me, and tons of YouTube videos, and I was trending all weekend.
Now people want to hear what I have to say about it, and I'm going to tell them.
I don't always talk about every time something bad happens for the 80th time, I'll say it.
Sometimes I will.
I feel like I have no choice.
I want to change.
I want to be the change.
I want to change the world.
I don't want to be another cog in the machine of dominoes falling over where one day you wake up and say, oh, we have to be a big, blind, mindless corporation that treats its employees like garbage and lies to people for these reasons.
I'll tell you guys another, another truth.
There have been circumstances, it's rare, where I've known things about very big cultural stories, but for safety reasons, I can't talk about it.
And so that's a reality.
I'd love to be like, guys, here's a secret, but seriously, people could get hurt.
In this instance, it's myself.
I can assume those risks, and I've already warned everybody who works with me over and over again, you know who you're standing next to.
And that's who I am.
For other people, though, it's not my choice to make.
There's the story.
I'll leave it there.
Assassination attempt.
Perhaps that's not unfair.
I don't know if I know enough about what happened.
So that's basically what I'll say about, you know, I think Jeremy's video said assassination attempt.
The intel we have suggested that an attempt was being made.
There was a phone call threat.
We don't care about those.
But then, Something happened with an individual and they were like, oh hey, maybe this time it's real.
So I just didn't show up downtown.
I hung out downtown the week before.
Had a blast.
I love it.
Downtown Nashville is so incredible.
The next weekend we were like, we should probably not go there.
So things are changing for us over here at Timcast.
This is a reality.
We've grown so big.
We're gonna have, check it out, we're gonna have secret security.
Overt security.
We have security in three ways.
What do we have?
Subliminal, liminal, and superliminal.
I'm kidding, it's a Simpsons joke.
But the idea is, there's security you can't see.
Yep, we have security guards that blend in, and we have, I'm talking about me personally, like going around and stuff.
Have to do it.
That's how crazy it's become with the bomb squad, eight swattings, and now this.
You know?
Why am I so high?
Okay, I'll be fair.
Eight swattings is pretty intense.
You know, people don't get that stuff.
But I'm pretty sure Ben Shapiro gets more threats than I do.
He just, for the most part, ignores them.
I get a lot more death threats than you realize.
For the most part, I just ignore them.
This was public.
It is what it is.
That's who I am.
You want to work together?
That's how it works.
This is reality.
I'm not gonna lie and hide this.
I mean, think about that too.
Imagine if it was like someone wanted me to come to their event, and I was like, yeah, everything will be fine, and don't tell them that these things happen.
No, you need security assessments.
I'll leave it there.
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