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May 13, 2026 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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IT'S DONE, HE'S WON | Timcast IRL

Tim Pool and his panel dissect the "It's Done, He's Won" victory, analyzing how redistricting and the dismantling of USAID's slush funds crush the deep state. They debate Thomas Massie's removal from committees, allege Dr. Fauci's intentional COVID cover-up, and question the CIA's suspicious raid on Tulsi Gabbard's office regarding JFK files. The discussion extends to literacy tests for voting, AI limitations, and radical proposals like moving the capital to Alaska, concluding that entrenched power requires armed resistance rather than traditional voting to dismantle. [Automatically generated summary]

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daniel turner
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ian crossland
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josie glabach
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lisa reynolds
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tim pool
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benny johnson
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carter banks
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james erdman-iii
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jesse watters
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Backyard Butchers and Tradition 00:04:16
tim pool
South Carolina is expected to push forward with redistricting despite the fact state level Republicans tried blocking the effort.
We're hearing there's going to be additional redistricting down the line, which it's a toss up.
I would say, arguably, it's a victory for the Republicans, but for now, we want the victory in front of us.
That being said, we're going to have Mississippi and Georgia redistricting for the next cycle after 2026.
Some people are arguing, well, it's just so late in the game already.
But my argument is just steamroll through.
They should be doing it.
So some people.
I thought this is criticism, but I'm going to say it like this.
All of it's just bad news for Democrats.
Missouri's court has just upheld their new map.
Cry more about it.
And in the craziest outcome of all of this, Tennessee has stripped all of their Democrats in the House from their committees over their insurrection.
So at least finally now, we're getting some pushback from the Republicans.
It seems like maybe sitting around being a wine snob doesn't protect your country.
So they're actually starting to do something.
But I would just stress what we are seeing is kind of like.
The furthest degree of animation a wine snob could have.
I apologize for the wine connoisseurs out there, but that's just the analogy.
What we want is brutish, crazy Republicans just saying enough and cracking the belt.
Instead, we're getting angry wine snobs saying, well, then you can't come to a party.
But I'll take it.
I'll take what I can get.
We'll talk about that.
Plus, of course, there's fears of Hantavirus once again.
Illinois seeing some cases, claims of human to human transmission expanding, and eh, we'll see.
I don't know how serious this is, but considering that they are working on a vaccine, we talked about this a couple days ago with Brett Weinstein.
It is strange, the structure of how this story is rolling out and the interest in making a vaccine for a virus that only has 30 cases in the U.S. per year, if that doesn't quite make sense.
And then, Chud the Builder.
I don't know if you guys know the story, but he's a guy who walks around, accuses people of chimping out, got attacked.
He got attacked and he shot the guy.
And so apparently, I'm hearing that it was like some black dude who said, don't be saying chimping out.
And he said it.
The guy swung at him, he shot him, got shot himself.
It's a crazy story.
But more to do with the.
Social media stuff.
But don't worry, I saved the best for last.
A CIA operative has accused Anthony Fauci of a direct cover up of COVID in Senate testimony today.
So this is massive.
And I just want to go ahead and say, Auto Pen pardons don't count.
So let's lock them up.
We're going to get into all that.
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tim pool
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You know, we've got a massive panel tonight.
We'll start with Daniel.
daniel turner
It's great to be back.
Daniel Turner, Power of the Future.
I am on my third Hantavirus booster, by the way, in case anyone was curious.
unidentified
Not four.
daniel turner
No, just my third.
I'll get my fourth tomorrow.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
daniel turner
So great to be back with y'all.
tim pool
Right on.
Lisa's here.
lisa reynolds
Hi, guys.
Nice to see everybody again.
Thanks for having me, Tim.
tim pool
Josie's here.
josie glabach
Hi, guys.
I'm Josie.
I'm the redheaded libertarian.
It's great to be back.
unidentified
Yeah, it is.
ian crossland
I'm kind of black pilled tonight.
I can't, I don't know why.
Maybe I'm over caffeinated, but I love you guys and I want to talk to you guys.
But I feel like we're headed towards this bizarre technocracy and we're just fighting for who's controlling the ship before it becomes part of an automated fleet.
But not talk me down from the ledge, Carter.
carter banks
Well, we'll see if I can help do that.
We got a stacked panel tonight.
And thank you all for coming, Tim.
unidentified
Let's get into it.
tim pool
We will get into it.
There's a big story about was it 50,000 people are losing their electricity because they're diverting it to data centers?
unidentified
Oh, boy.
tim pool
The name of the game is this, my friends.
You have a couple years left, if that, to own property or own something before it's too late because then you're going to be just a cog in the machine and the machine will be owned by the halves.
ian crossland
That's what the numbers guy was saying.
Gary's a numbers guy.
tim pool
He's not wrong.
ian crossland
It took years to get your nut.
josie glabach
But I was reliably told that we would own nothing and be happy.
tim pool
That's right.
You will.
The rest of them will own everything and they'll be very happy.
Let's jump to this story.
We'll start here with the oh man, the nuclear bomb.
Tennessee Democrats removed from House committees following special session disruptions.
This is massive.
So I was screeching about this when we watched videos of Democrats in Tennessee all butthurt because they're getting rid of that one Democrat district.
They're starting things on fire and stomping them on the ground.
They're fighting in the aisles.
You got Democrats up holding hands.
They're blasting noise makers and air horns.
And I'm just sitting here being like, why won't they arrest these people?
Why don't they arrest any of them?
Well, what ends up happening is Republicans just kick them all out of their committees.
So they're effectively powerless now.
lisa reynolds
I love it.
tim pool
And right.
And there's a bunch of little things happening in this space.
Look at you worked on the Hill for so long.
You're so happy.
lisa reynolds
I'm so happy about this.
tim pool
It is state level, though.
lisa reynolds
It doesn't matter.
Like, they act like animals all the time.
I remember when we were, there was like that indivisible group way before Antifa got big or anything like that.
And they would come into our office and they would literally take over, like sit on my desk and do all these kind of things.
There was one girl, she got arrested for taking her top off in the middle of like the.
They've been acting like animals, zoo animals.
For years, and they never got in trouble.
So, this is nice.
tim pool
You needed to learn just one very simple phrase they're coming right for us.
unidentified
You know?
Yeah.
tim pool
And then after that, it's just you got to defend yourself.
lisa reynolds
My chief of staff is really nice.
And my district director at the time, he used to let me be mean to them.
So, that's fun.
unidentified
He let you be mean to them.
daniel turner
The rules for observing House and Senate, at least in DC, I was a Senate staffer 20 some odd years ago.
It's really strict, right?
Not only just no cell phones, no video, no talking.
You can only enter the galley or the, what do they call it?
The gallery, I think, at certain times, et cetera.
So the idea that these members, these legislators, were engaging with people in the gallery, sending signals, they had air horns, they had a chance going back and forth.
There is a decorum that's expected of legislators, and I'm glad that they're upholding it.
So I think this is awesome.
lisa reynolds
They were totally encouraging.
They were praying while people were blowing air horns and they were telling them to be obnoxious.
Like, no, you gotta go.
You're done.
You're entitled.
tim pool
I appreciate that they're getting kicked off their committees and being stripped of power in Tennessee, but I wanted to see arrests.
Like, it's not going to stop unless you physically stop them.
And I'm not saying hurt anybody.
I'm saying use law enforcement capabilities to take these people to jail where they will stay for a certain amount of time and they will learn their lesson.
Maybe not, but at least they won't be in the courthouse screaming.
daniel turner
I mean, if you're holding something with a lighter and you are trying to light it on fire indoors, I feel like that's an arrestable offense, right?
That could be considered arson.
ian crossland
You know, like a government property?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Something like a January 6th style, people walk around smearing poop on the walls.
unidentified
Is that what they did?
tim pool
They smeared poop on the walls?
ian crossland
I heard that someone smeared poop on the walls during January 6th.
tim pool
I wouldn't be surprised.
ian crossland
I'd be wrong.
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
But you're saying defacing of.
tim pool
You know what?
You are right about that, Ian.
And so those people on January 6th, I think, should be arrested for criminal trespass.
And they should serve maybe a couple weeks for trespassing.
First offense, maybe you just get a court supervision like most people do.
And for the people who ride and fought cops, I think maybe a year or two.
Oh, wait.
lisa reynolds
What about people that take tables out of a window?
unidentified
Take tables out of a window?
lisa reynolds
I'm just kidding.
Somebody I don't like.
She should have been arrested.
But no, like solitary confinement.
That's what the standard is.
tim pool
So, these Tennessee Democrats should be locked up in the shoe.
daniel turner
Two years solitary for what they did.
ian crossland
What were they doing exactly?
Just blocking procedure?
tim pool
They were starting fires.
unidentified
They lost the vote.
tim pool
That guy held up a printer paper of Confederate flag and set it on fire and thrown it on the ground and started stomping it.
unidentified
I don't know.
josie glabach
This sounds like seditious conspiracy to me.
They deserve 17 years.
tim pool
That proves it.
daniel turner
Yeah.
And they lost the vote.
And both sides of the aisle are going to lose contentious votes.
I mean, you go back to losing the Obamacare vote, which was a really big deal, right?
It cost some people like Bart Stupak, we're dating ourselves.
His re election, right?
Obamacare.
But when Republicans lost the Obamacare vote, I don't remember.
I mean, there may have been some hissing, but I don't remember anyone lighting.
I don't remember John Boehner lighting things on fire in the House chamber, I gotta tell you.
tim pool
I mean, maybe if Republicans actually did things like that, we'd be in a very different country, but we can't seem to get anything through with the Republicans.
josie glabach
No, the Republicans' job is just to maintain the status quo.
That's what it feels like.
tim pool
Well, actually, I will push back.
Republicans have been fighting very hard recently.
Harder than they've ever been fighting.
But I got to give them credit because I have never seen them fight as hard as they have to get rid of Thomas Massey.
lisa reynolds
Dude, this is, you know, it's honestly, that's fair.
It's really out of control.
tim pool
You know, it's really fascinating.
Sorry, just the willingness to use sex scandals to go after somebody.
I'm like, wow, that's Democrat territory.
Republicans really turn the volume up.
lisa reynolds
Right?
Like, we're not going to say the word.
But like, there's a bunch of these scandals right now.
There's like the Patriots coach with the reporter, right?
Like, why do we care about like all these people and their personal lives like that?
Like, nobody's like, what's the word, great?
Nobody's like raping these people.
Like, we're upset about affairs, right?
Like, that have been happening since like the dawn of time.
And I'm not saying that we should, like, people should go out and have affairs and that's not good.
But like, I don't believe what's said about Massey.
I think that lady obviously looks like a lunatic and what she's saying is not credible at all.
tim pool
But like, what is she claiming?
lisa reynolds
She doesn't really claim much of anything.
That's probably a terrible thing.
josie glabach
She claimed that he used his super secret cow money to bribe her.
tim pool
And then she said, Well, bribe her to what?
josie glabach
Because he's a sex deviant.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
tim pool
He was, he was, he.
josie glabach
Yeah, super.
lisa reynolds
So she won't, but she's not making any actual accusations.
tim pool
The accusation is that he was paying her not to say he was a sexual deviant?
unidentified
Yes.
josie glabach
That, yep, yep.
daniel turner
No one who goes to MIT is a sex deviant, right?
He didn't go to Berkeley.
unidentified
No.
Nasty is what he does.
tim pool
Well, I don't know.
lisa reynolds
Have you guys ever seen Revenge of the Nerds?
josie glabach
Yeah, it's not our business.
tim pool
The movie was messed up.
unidentified
Yeah, so.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm not joking.
There was a nerd dude rapes the chick in the end of that movie.
unidentified
Which movie?
tim pool
Revenge of the Nerds.
Oh, that's true.
unidentified
I saw that as a kid.
Different times.
tim pool
What he does is he puts on the girl's boyfriend's costume so she thinks it's him.
And then he has sex with her.
And then she's like, wow, that was amazing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And he's like, actually, I'm not really your boyfriend.
It's like, oh my God, dude.
daniel turner
Different times.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
I think Massey's the best congressman we got.
This is all shocking.
I mean, I don't care if he's hooking up with chicks.
It's what, I mean, look, what the guy's been going through, good Lord, give him some leeway in his personal life.
Like, all these people support him, and then Trump was like, do thing.
And people are like, oh, I'll do thing because Master told me to do thing.
It's like, bro, they've got, what is it, Miriam Adelson money trying to get Massey out because he wants to stop Trump's assets?
unidentified
It's obvious.
Yes.
josie glabach
There was a grassroots, they raised grassroots $1.3 million.
In donations.
Mariam Adelson, she has more money than God, so she just dumped the same amount and matched it.
Just one person versus a grassroots organization trying to get him on this level so he can make the commercials.
tim pool
It's actually really funny because I've never seen Democrats fight this hard against a Democrat.
It's like, oh, we got a Republican who votes only 90% of the time with Republicans.
Got to get rid of him.
unidentified
Got to go.
josie glabach
He ran on a stronger platform than Trump of doing Trump's platform.
Like, yes, I am going to get rid of the Democrats.
Or, I am going to reveal the Epstein files.
Yes, I don't want war.
Yes, you know, everything has to be constitutional.
We have to go through a constitutional thing.
Yes, we need defense in this country.
Thomas Massey ran on Trump's platform.
Then Trump changed his platforms, and Massey didn't change his platform.
But, I mean, he's the most constitutional by far.
If you could ask Rock right now, who's the most constitutional congressman in all of Congress, and it's going to tell you that it's Thomas Massey.
ian crossland
We should overrule.
josie glabach
He votes with the Constitution, which is what Kentucky elected him to do.
However, money wins elections.
Statistically, like 90% of the time.
lisa reynolds
But there should be a rule.
Nobody should take seriously or believe any sex scandal that comes out a month before the election.
tim pool
Any scandal.
lisa reynolds
Any scandal, right?
Like, it's got to be.
josie glabach
You've got to give it the 48 hour rule, Dan Bongino, but no, nobody gave it the 48 hour rule.
tim pool
Even the Hunter Biden laptop was strategically.
lisa reynolds
And that shouldn't have been either.
Like, no, these things should come out when you know them if they're true, and you shouldn't drop it the week before an election.
ian crossland
Early voting starts tomorrow, I think you said.
josie glabach
Yeah, early voting starts tomorrow.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, like, who.
Like, that's clearly.
tim pool
But he's not even accusing anything.
They're saying that he was trying to pay her not to file a wrongful termination suit against some other rep. Yes.
josie glabach
There was one of.
tim pool
I don't even care.
josie glabach
One of this woman's friends came out and she said, I was named, so I feel like I have to say something.
Her name is Anna.
And this is probably trending right now, so you can find it.
And she came out and she said, he, that, that at the time, him and Cynthia went to her house and they were having, like, they were friends at the time, it sounded like, or maybe casually dating.
It was after Rhonda died.
And Massey was.
Just devastated.
I saw him after Rhonda died.
He's devastated.
He lost so much weight, he was almost unrecognizable.
And, you know, he was grieving when he was there and everything like that.
And at the time that this woman, Cynthia, she was going through a nasty divorce at the time.
And so Anna said, she goes, I believe Thomas did offer her $5,000, but that's because she told him that she needed a new lawyer.
tim pool
I just don't care.
Like, if she was like, he wanted to, you know, hit me in the face with, Oh my God.
While we watched, you know, like little people wrestle or something, I'd be like, well, I get that.
That's not the craziest thing I've heard.
daniel turner
You've seen to that too?
unidentified
Wow.
I thought it was just me.
tim pool
Little people.
ian crossland
Christian ethos and morality, but like, if your leaders are like, didn't Donald Trump have like five kids from three different women?
Like, who cares if the dude's banging nine chicks and it's a polyamorous?
tim pool
Actually, it's a phenomenal career.
I'm pissed off.
I'm pissed off that Thomas Massey ain't swimming in Poontang because he's the best member of Congress.
unidentified
He's hot.
tim pool
He should have just all these hot chicks being like, oh, Thomas, Thomas.
ian crossland
I think he does.
But he's a boy about it.
You know, he plays it cool because he's got a job to do.
unidentified
Got it.
tim pool
Yeah, you know, he's got to be like, ladies, please.
ian crossland
So, look, if Democrats don't win this, he should run for president.
You should.
You should spoil the Republican Party and dominate that thing.
unidentified
I'll start a podcast.
tim pool
Podcast.
ian crossland
Well, you should start a podcast, then you should run for governor of Kentucky or run for president or something.
josie glabach
I'm noticing that all the people who are really mad at Massey right now are all defending Jeffrey Epstein, too, but nobody's fighting to get Jelaine out of prison.
Why not?
unidentified
Who's defending?
tim pool
Oh, you mean like the people saying it's not really that big of a deal?
josie glabach
Yeah, yeah.
Well, because Trump said so.
unidentified
It's a hoax.
josie glabach
Massey's a huge deal, though, because Massey bad.
Massey bad.
So he's a huge deal.
But they're not.
unidentified
I don't know, man.
tim pool
You hear about what Thomas is doing with those chickens?
He's got a thing that like moves a chicken coop automatically.
ian crossland
Clux capacity.
tim pool
Witchcraft.
josie glabach
Yeah, the flux capacitor.
Yeah, he's got 30 patents.
He's brilliant.
Sometimes some of these memes I'm seeing going around against his opponent and him are like comparing their education, only they're leaving out Massey's education and they're just saying, like, never passed anything.
And then they're like, Edgar Lorraine or whatever the hell his name is, he has two degrees or three degrees or something.
And it's like, well, I don't think they measure up to Massey's bachelor's in his engineering and his 30 patents.
But okay, but yeah, the whole thing is trying to make him look like an idiot.
But you know, some of the stuff that Massey's gotten through, like, he got the glyphosate.
Protection stripped from the Farm Act.
And I'm sure we're going to hear about why that's a bad thing because we have to protect Big Chem.
But, you know, like he does, he tries to do good work.
And the thing that people say, they're like, he never gets anything passed.
He's the worst because he never gets anything passed.
I'm like, he's trying to pass constitutional stuff like auditing the Federal Reserve.
And that's a bad thing that his constituents aren't passing that.
So he's the bad guy.
unidentified
Let's jump into the story.
tim pool
We got this from Media.
It's where it gets fun.
Guys, you ready for a drama filled Wednesday?
Lying scumbag.
MTG and Benny Johnson trade.
Insults in vicious exchange.
lisa reynolds
Who called who the lying scumbag?
tim pool
I think MTG called Benny a lying scumbag.
So they've got Bobby Sauce who's criticizing Benny.
lisa reynolds
I love Bobby.
tim pool
And MTG says this is a clinic on how to call out the lies of social media influencers that get paid to spew propaganda.
Benny Johnson, who I thought was a friend, couldn't even give me the courtesy of asking if any of these lies were true.
TMZ and Daily Mail actually reached out, but not Benny.
And Thomas Massey did not mistreat any woman.
But happens to have a primary next week.
So, of course, out comes a story from a woman who is just jealous she isn't Mrs. Massey.
Benny said that MTG fled the country to Costa Rica to live in a mansion.
And he called Thomas Massey a pig.
It's, yeah, we'll play this Bobby Sauce video.
Bobby, I'm going to have to skip over a lot of your commentary, though, because we want to hear what Henny was saying.
unidentified
From the horse's mouth.
benny johnson
It's always the dirtiest, filthiest pigs that squeal the loudest.
And Thomas Massey is a pig.
ian crossland
Yeah, of course, if it's not the queen of the political grift herself.
unidentified
Benny Johnson.
You better bring some.
tim pool
I had to leave that one in there, but we'll jump ahead.
Well, I mean, I don't want to cut through Bobby's video without giving him his commentary if we're giving Marjorie's squealing.
benny johnson
Calling President Trump's administration the Epstein administration, constantly banging on about the Congressional Slush Fund.
You know who also did this?
Eric Swalwell.
unidentified
Ah, yes.
tim pool
And here's more from Benny.
benny johnson
Oh, victims, victims, victims.
Oh, these poor women.
Meanwhile, Eric Swalwell is straight up drugging and choking women up in his hotel rooms.
Has like a staffer list as long as my arm of staffers that say that he committed sexual assault against them.
ian crossland
Well, you know, this guy's talking about people with sexual deviant secrets.
This guy, the guy who I hear lots of sexual deviant secrets.
Hey, Benny, come on, man.
Why are you blinking so much, bro?
I like you, but come on, cool.
benny johnson
I agree with that, by the way.
Thomas Nassie and Marjorie Taylor Greene are the ones who led this.
josie glabach
Oh, so you and uh, he has zero ethics complaints against him.
benny johnson
Signed from Congress and fled America.
Yeah, they are exposing people that do this type of stuff.
unidentified
Cool.
benny johnson
Uh, Marjorie Taylor Greene.
Resigned from Congress and fled America, now lives in a $5 million Costa Rica mansion.
unidentified
Bro, this dude is.
tim pool
So Marjorie says that's wrong.
And Benny responded saying, I know everyone has become very fragile and overly emotional lately.
So let me explain this call me slowly.
Marjorie Taylor Greene Fled 00:14:31
tim pool
I have covered trending news topics on my show.
The Massey allegation and your South America mansion were the number one trending topics on this platform.
I'm entitled to my opinions on these matters.
I serve my audience.
That's my job.
And unlike you, I won't run away from my job when things get tough.
Even worse, you are now siding with left wing extremists who attacked us for years and want our movement and leaders dead.
Anyway, have a great time crying about this on The View and CNN.
You know, what I would say is I think the Thomas Massey story, Mother Jones says this Thomas Massey has always been a pain in the ass.
It's designed to prevent Massey from being able to get any support from Democrats.
So, Massey going after the Epstein files and staying true to it has generated a lot of goodwill amongst liberals who don't like Trump.
The reason?
They don't like Trump.
So, I see a lot of these liberal personalities and these wackaloon lefties being like, Massey's the only good one.
And it's because Massey is going after the Epstein files and telling Trump to shove off, and Trump's pissed about it.
This, however, story I think was dropped because we're in a primary.
They don't want Democrats coming in and voting in the primary or right-strung as Republicans to vote to help support him.
They want to make sure that Thomas Massey is not going to get any 11th-hour support.
From moderates who might believe him.
So, sex scandal.
Something generally off putting that regular people are going to be like, I don't support that guy.
I think that's the real issue here.
As for Benny calling Thomas Massey a pig, Bobby Sauce goes on to say he's a paid propagandist.
And I don't know if anybody, I don't think Benny's being paid by the Trump administration to say anything.
That's silly.
He's got a massively successful company.
He makes money, but he serves his audience.
Those are his words.
So, my perception on that when he says, I'll just make sure I don't want to misquote him.
He says, I serve my audience.
And so my presumption is he can see what his audience is saying about this.
They like Trump, they don't like Massey.
So, okay, there you go.
That's the opinion.
The idea that Massey's a pig, though, is absolutely ridiculous.
daniel turner
Well, your audience is wrong.
And I'm in a tough bind.
I don't know if Benny will watch this.
Benny used to be a very good friend.
I don't know if he considers me a friend anymore at this point.
Last I saw him was in a restaurant in D.C., and he kind of came by at the end of the meal and gave us one of those finger bang, finger gun fingers like, what's up, Chief, bro?
And left, and I was like, wow, that's odd.
Um, so Benny, if you're watching, you have my number.
Um, he's doing a great disservice to his audience because if you dislike Massey, and a lot of Republicans do, Massey is still with you 98% of the time.
And so, who do you get if you don't have like right on right violence does not do us any good?
It's the same anger I had as when they kicked out George Santos.
But Benny says in his show that he votes with Democrats all the time, which is just total nonsense, you know, it's just the total nonsense.
And you can dislike lots of Republicans, there are lots of Republicans I dislike.
Right?
I mean, but if I launched a huge campaign to oust Mitch McConnell because I dislike him, I still got a guy who's powerful who's with me 88% of the time.
Like, yeah, replace him with someone younger and better, but like, I'm not going to spend my life destroying people who are with me the majority of the time when that side, the left, the communists, the progressives, they're really our enemy.
That should be the focus of all of our attention.
This stuff just pisses me off.
So if Thomas Massey's your biggest problem, if even to the right, if Donald Trump's your biggest problem, Do you know who the frig we're up against?
tim pool
This is all part of the redistricting war, though.
The name of the game is that the Republicans want to secure as many loyalist seats as possible.
Thomas Massey is a principled individual who's going to vote on what he thinks matters for his values, his principles, and his constituents.
The GOP says fall in line.
Trump says fall in line.
So they're going to go after states on redistricting, and they're going to go after squeaky Republicans who don't vote in lockstep.
At least on very, very important cases.
For the most part, Thomas Massey obviously is aligned.
I think his record is what, 90%?
So there's things like overspending, he says no to, and I respect it.
I've actually disagreed with Messi quite a bit on a lot of things, but I respect that he's principled.
I disagree with Ro Khanna on a lot of things, but I can respect some of the things he's protected free speech issues with big tech.
Though I think he's largely, well, the thing about Ro Khanna is that as the child of immigrants, he's always going to be against us on the moral tradition, the American tradition.
So it is what it is, and I understand that.
But he's willing to come and have conversations.
I can respect that.
I would prefer a candidate who is going to be nuclear against the Democrat machine because we are in.
It's cultural wartime.
That being said, they don't need to boot Massey.
He just gained nine seats in redistricting.
lisa reynolds
So, what's the point?
I waste the money.
I don't think he's going to lose a seat.
tim pool
Well, he's five points down.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, but like, you know, he's five points down, and we're seeing a lot of backlash on social media and Twitter and all that stuff.
But that doesn't always translate to what people are seeing in their own district.
And I say that from experience.
Like, it doesn't always work that way.
Just because people are outraged and talking all this stuff, it really doesn't get to like the.
60 and 70 year olds that are like Mass and that have been there and who are reliable actual voters.
So I don't know.
It's very hard to unseat an incumbent despite what people think.
Like, I kind of have a feeling he's going to keep it.
josie glabach
So, Tom, I forgot what I was going to say.
ian crossland
You'll remember.
unidentified
I'll remember.
daniel turner
You remember, but I'll just jump in really quick to say it.
And in the process, we're pissing away millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars for just an absolute ego trip for vacation.
lisa reynolds
I just don't like the last minute fake scandal stuff by women who look like, you know, she.
SSRIs.
Before she went on and talked to the.
ian crossland
Is Benny coming from a place where he believes the scandal is true?
lisa reynolds
I'm not commenting on all that.
ian crossland
Is Benny implying in that rant?
Yes, he heard it.
josie glabach
Sounds like he may be implying that, yes.
daniel turner
I think Benny just sets things on fire to watch them burn.
tim pool
But I don't understand, even if Benny genuinely thought the story was real, like nothing in the story says that Messi's a pig.
josie glabach
What's important, it's not like doing what your followers want you to do, it's telling them the truth.
And they don't always like that.
And they're going to unfollow you, but you know what?
If you're principled enough, you can.
You stay principled enough, they're going to follow you again later when the cognitive dissonance passes if they are that open minded.
And if they're not, then maybe you don't want them following you.
tim pool
I'm just going to say it again.
I mean, we're in the off season, we're kicking off into the political season.
So the stories are starting to get more and more political.
Ad dollars will start pouring into YouTube and other platforms, and then they're going to boost those videos to maximize the inventory.
But that being said.
josie glabach
Oh, I remembered what I was going to say.
unidentified
Okay.
josie glabach
Thomas Massey, okay, if you are a voter, 20.
25, you know, like, kind of that younger demographic of voters, that is who is going to put Thomas Massey over the edge.
So, if you're watching this and you're one of those voters in K 4 and you're, you know, 18 to 30, if you're in that demographic, you need to vote.
Your vote does matter.
Your vote will make a difference.
ian crossland
I think that maybe statistically it doesn't.
I think rhetorically Massey's problem, and I wish you were here, Tom, is that we, I was going to say that we need war.
We need war.
War, war, without, if you refuse to fight in a war, if you refuse to fight in a war, you get killed by those that.
Don't refuse to fight the war and you will be slaughtered and subjugated.
So, we have to fight this war.
We're still in the Great War.
It started in 1914.
It went cold for about 60 years.
And now we are winning.
America is winning the World War.
We are taking over the world militarily, setting up for a new world order of technocracy.
unidentified
Jesus' face.
ian crossland
And that's the.
lisa reynolds
Am I in an alternate universe saying we need war?
tim pool
The cold and shot of it?
ian crossland
Yeah, you can't deny war.
It's like screaming, no, don't, isn't enough.
You have to actually fight it and win it.
And so.
I think the whole no new war thing was sort of like tongue in cheek, like, yeah, wink, wink.
We've been at war for 100 years.
What are you talking about?
It's not a new war.
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
Finishing the war that we started.
tim pool
I don't know what you're talking about.
ian crossland
This, like, Tom is like, we got to stop fighting.
I agree with you.
We shouldn't fight, but the reality is we are.
So we have to.
So I think that him, like, refusing, like, support for the Iranian inclusion is probably misled.
tim pool
Oh, you're talking about the Iran war?
ian crossland
The Iran war, the Venezuelan war, the Cuban war, America taking over the country.
tim pool
Hold on.
Just to clarify, I think you needed to give us, like, a segue first before you said all these things.
You're saying that Thomas Messi votes against Trump's efforts in these wars.
unidentified
Correct.
ian crossland
And, like, funding Israel.
I don't know what his votes are on with the Iran.
tim pool
You want to fund Israel.
ian crossland
I think that if we don't.
That other forces will take over the world.
tim pool
Wait, hold on.
Unfortunately.
You said we should fund Israel?
I've got $7,000.
ian crossland
If we stop funding Israel right now, we will lose the Strait of Hormuz.
josie glabach
We should not fund Israel.
We should cut all foreign aid everywhere.
ian crossland
But then we would lose the United States.
unidentified
I have no idea.
lisa reynolds
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
tim pool
You owe me $7,000 now.
ian crossland
I think if we stopped funding the war machine, we would lose the Suez Canal, and then we would slowly lose North Africa, and then we would probably lose South Africa.
tim pool
And that's why we have to falsely accuse Thomas Massey of sexual deviancy.
ian crossland
Well, that's what the military is.
tim pool
The only way to fund Israel.
ian crossland
The order thinks is.
tim pool
Can we just hold on for a second?
ian crossland
It's a stick in the cob.
tim pool
I get it.
I get it.
But the joke insinuation being made is like Thomas Massey votes against funding Israel.
He votes against funding these wars.
The argument from not just, I'm not saying this is your argument, but there are a lot of people arguing we want these wars also would make like, oh, come on.
Everybody knows this is a fake accusation.
Like it's just a silly nonsense.
Or even if it is, it's not even that big of a deal.
The argument is how do we fund Israel?
I guess we're going to have to falsely accuse Thomas Massey of sexual impropriety.
ian crossland
I think they're slandering him in order to get their war funding because he keeps providing like a stick in the spokes.
But I just would like to debate Thomas on policy about military because the libertarian ideal functions domestically wonderfully.
But when you go outside and you have to fight dudes that are psychotically trying to kill you, you can't just be laissez faire about your military.
You have to use it.
tim pool
And he thinks he can just have dominion over chickens.
ian crossland
I don't want to put words in your mouth, Tom.
I don't know exactly what your policy is.
tim pool
There are so many things.
josie glabach
I'm guessing his policy is constitutional, Article IV, Section 4, which is we use our military for defense.
And right now we're doing a lot of offense.
And I think that that's probably what it comes down to.
I don't want to put words into his mouth, but he's a very constitutional libertarian.
ian crossland
The problem with ballistics is if you don't take over your neighbors, then they encroach under your border just like we did to the Russians.
And then they'll get all around you, they'll blockade, you know, relatively.
And then you're like, because you didn't fight an offensive war, now you have no choice but to defend.
And we can't get to a point where we have to fight a defensive war on our own land.
We can't let that happen.
The Romans knew that.
That's why they took over half the planet.
And we're trying to finish the job.
So let us finish the job.
josie glabach
So, do you think Venezuela should be the 51st state?
unidentified
No.
ian crossland
If they want to be.
lisa reynolds
I think we should just get rid of all the sand countries.
tim pool
It's a different region.
ian crossland
I'd like to see a world of localized governance, including Venezuela's.
lisa reynolds
All the sand countries, Israel, all they want to go.
tim pool
When the UFOs come down, we say, can you like slice out those land chunks and just get rid of them?
ian crossland
Just like, you see how like the Chinese are capitulating, the Russians are begging for mercy.
It's because we've exerted our military force.
If we didn't, If Kamala Harris just let the Chinese buy our farmland, we'd be serfs.
daniel turner
Feels kind of good, doesn't it?
lisa reynolds
We already are serfs.
unidentified
It doesn't.
daniel turner
Seeing all your enemies kind of bow before you.
ian crossland
I mean, it feels like sort of reinforcing that maybe free speech will lead the day, but it hurts.
tim pool
I asked Grok just now to give me a rough estimate of chicken ownership by party in Congress, and it says 10 to 15% of Republican rural districts versus.
Three to six percent of suburban Democrats.
So the estimate would largely be that Republicans have a three to one or four to one even chicken ownership.
I just don't trust Democrats for that reason.
And I know I'm joking, but I was actually thinking about it.
There actually is an interesting point you made that Democrats, largely being urban, are extremely and ever more detached from the actual functions of running this country's base level infrastructure, meaning they're nowhere near energy production, they're nowhere near oil distribution, they're nowhere near farming, you know, animal or plant.
They're in cities and they're on social media.
And the joke about chicken ownership is Republicans tend to be in areas where they're generating energy and growing food.
unidentified
Mm hmm.
daniel turner
And have guns.
tim pool
That's true too.
ian crossland
Killing wild animals.
tim pool
But imagine what that means then when it comes to the voting patterns of the federal government.
When you try to explain to a Democrat oil production and they just say ban oil.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah, I think that's the whole argument with no new war.
That's kind of like ban oil.
It's like obviously we don't want war, but in order to stop war, you have to win it.
You can't just stop fighting.
daniel turner
You are hitting on the ethos of my organization, why I started it, and that huge disconnect between the people who make our policy and the people who actually live the policy.
And even though it's not energy related, it's ag related.
When I talk to high school kids or college kids or this wonderful audience, the example I tend to give is Congresswoman Ocasio Cortez.
And not because she's an easy punching bag, but early on in her rise, she was doing an Instagram live or a vine or something.
And she was in an urban farm in the Bronx.
And she was talking about how all the community was gathering together to grow this food, but they weren't growing the food indigenous to the people.
This is a Latino community, and there's no yucca, there's no cocoa, there's none of the food that the Latinos eat.
And she blamed it on colonialism and white nationalism.
And you wanted to say, no, it's because it's the Bronx, right?
Those things don't grow in the Bronx.
And it's funny to laugh at because, like, there are no palm trees and there are no cotton fields in New York either.
But the scary part is that she makes ag policy.
And so you have these members of Congress who say, like, I'm going to make a policy about agriculture or about energy.
And their disconnect is so far removed that they actually are laughable and dangerous because they don't understand the industries that they are, quote unquote, regulating.
It's not just Elizabeth Warren in banking.
She claims she knows banking because she's a Harvard.
PhD, and because I taught these things.
And there's an argument there.
She's wrong on banking, but when you have people who make ag policy, energy policy, healthcare policies, who aren't even doctors, right?
Who have never been in the medical field and they want to make policy, that disconnect, I think, is something that our founding fathers would have found absolutely abhorrent.
josie glabach
Liz Warren is a tenured Native American.
Roosters, Bees, and War 00:03:15
josie glabach
I'll have you know.
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
I wonder about that with war.
daniel turner
Indigenous knowledge.
josie glabach
Yes, exactly.
ian crossland
People in Congress that maybe have never served in combat.
That are want the war, like that want no new, like they want to end the war.
I feel like the Patriot Act, I don't love it, but with an agile military, we've really positioned ourselves to be the dominating force on the planet.
And if we hadn't in the last 20 years, if we just sat back and let the Russians take the Ukraine and the Chinese take Taiwan, then what world would we be in?
tim pool
Sorry, finish your point.
ian crossland
That's why I feel like these people in Congress that are like Tom, who I love you, dude.
You're like, I would text you right now.
josie glabach
I'll text him right now.
unidentified
I just texted him.
ian crossland
The military stuff is like best left to the executive military forces and not Congress.
It's crazy, not Congress.
tim pool
I'm at my wit's end.
unidentified
How so?
ian crossland
Because that's how I feel.
tim pool
I just looked up Edgar L. Rain's farm, not a single chicken.
josie glabach
So he has no untraceable chicken money then, you're saying?
tim pool
Well, I looked him up and I was fairly optimistic and sympathetic.
Like, look, he runs a farm.
He does.
He's got a family farm.
And I see a lot of cows and I see pigs, and I've been scrolling and I don't see any chickens.
I don't trust a man who doesn't have chickens.
daniel turner
Also, as a farmer, we'll throw this out there for urban chicken owners.
Chickens are happiest if they have a rooster.
And a lot of cities don't allow roosters.
Bees can't live without male bees, even though they don't do anything.
Bee colonies that are all female ultimately die.
unidentified
Really?
daniel turner
Yeah, which is so bizarre.
tim pool
What do the males do?
daniel turner
The queen bee, they literally hang out, which is so crazy.
unidentified
They don't reproduce.
daniel turner
They don't reproduce.
They just, whatever they do, they just hang out.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
tim pool
The females go and collect pollen and stuff?
daniel turner
The females do everything.
Everything they make, all the decisions they build, all of the cells they collect pollen, they collect the pollen, they collect all of the nectar.
lisa reynolds
They no, they go out and mate with the queen, the queen goes out and then they go and fly and try to mate with her.
daniel turner
But the one bee that mates with the queen dies, correct?
And then the boys who never get a chance to have they also die.
No, they come back to the hive and they hang out, yeah.
lisa reynolds
But they kill them right before they hive, before fall, the boys hang out, and they're a small population, you know, they hang out.
But I promise you, the women kill all the boys before fall starts, and then it starts over with the no, they would kill all of the boys.
daniel turner
If there was hive collapse, but otherwise they hang out all winter.
unidentified
They are.
lisa reynolds
I promise you that.
I study bee stuff.
daniel turner
I have bees.
I'm a beekeeper.
lisa reynolds
Look at us.
Do the male bees die before winter?
daniel turner
But it's going back to the chickens, though.
And I feel bad for even if you have four chickens in a chicken coop in the city and they're like, we don't allow roosters.
Chickens like to have a rooster.
ian crossland
What if you.
daniel turner
There's something about why God created men and female.
They want to be together.
tim pool
All right, this says In honeybee colonies, female worker bees typically evict and often kill or cause the death of male bees in the fall.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Often, but not always.
unidentified
They do.
tim pool
But either way, I mean, the point being that they chill.
lisa reynolds
I just have to.
ian crossland
What are they like?
tim pool
Like for the rest of the year, the bees, the dude bees are like, I got to do this.
ian crossland
They just keep the women warm and hang out.
And then make.
tim pool
Hang out.
ian crossland
They're fights.
daniel turner
Tell stories.
Experts Who Knew About COVID 00:11:19
unidentified
This, this.
daniel turner
They do this.
ian crossland
I'm keeping you guys warm.
Yeah.
You can't really feel it.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Let's fry Ian's brain with this story from Fox News.
Rand Paul brings CIA whistleblower to Senate hearing alleging deep state COVID 19 conspiracy.
The longtime CAA employee allegedly has firsthand knowledge of intelligence officials burying evidence on the pandemic.
His general assessment, let me read a little bit for you, I guess.
They say, actually, this is, can we?
I just pulled this one up and it's still not updated.
The dude literally testified.
We got the guy's testimony right here.
I'll play a little bit for you.
james erdman-iii
I want to get to the Fauci part.
Wasted resources, and a failure to properly inform policymakers.
Public health policy would have been very different had the American public been made aware that a virus from a lab in China was going to serve as the foundation for an emergency use authorization mRNA products being mandated by the former administration.
Dr. Fauci's role in the cover up was intentional.
Dr. Fauci influenced the analytical process and findings by leveraging his position to ensure the IC consulted with a conflicted list of curated subject matter experts, public health officials, and scientists.
This included some of the authors of the paper, The Proximal Origin of SARS CoV 2, and other public health experts who have been in his orbit for the last 20 plus years.
tim pool
You know, I think on everything, I think.
unidentified
White pill.
tim pool
I think the Trump administration has crushed the deep state, shattering of USAID.
I think whistleblowers like this are coming out the indictment of the Fauci acolyte.
I think these people are all scattered and starting to realize they see the writing on the wall.
There is a new power infrastructure in town.
It is the Trump sphere of influence and the Trump administration.
So if you look at 2020, the Supreme Court says we're not going to take up these cases challenging these unconstitutional election measures because they're scared of the deep state.
So Biden gets in, and what do they do?
They arrest people, they arrest lawyers.
It's nuts.
They go after all the J 6ers, put them in solitary.
Everybody's scared.
Trump then wins.
Splinters USAID to the wind, their funding infrastructure, starts making these little indictments.
And you know what I wonder?
I wonder if it's more coordinated.
Now, I'm not giving Trump any of this credit.
He maybe gets some, that's fine.
But I will just say it's annoying when all these libs are like, you think Trump's playing 40.
I don't care if Trump is.
I think Cash is.
I think Pete Hegseth is.
I think there are other people in his orbit.
And I wonder if these little indictments on like housing that Pulte did was actually just a shot across the bow.
And what ends up happening is these lower tier guys from Intel.
Got the message.
They're willing to indict these people on any little thing they find.
And you know what?
The procedure is the punishment.
Because even though we might say, oh, are they really going to get convicted over a housing loan application?
No, but they probably spent $200,000 in legal fees already.
So these guys who don't have that money or those means, maybe a former CAA guy sitting there being like, oh crap, what do you do?
You get ahead of it.
So you come forward and say, I'll blow the whistle on these guys.
They made us do it.
Don't look at me because they know old school deep state is routed and crushed and Trump means business.
daniel turner
I hope you're right.
I mean, routed and crushed in a year and a half would be good, but headed in that direction.
What I loved what he said there with anyone who's ever dealt with anything scientific coming out of government is when he said this curated list of experts.
unidentified
Yep.
daniel turner
Because everything, whether it's the trans community, whether it's what I deal in, which is the climate world, everyone has their like, according to these panel, these experts all agree.
And they're like, well, the experts agree.
And then you realize, did you ask anyone outside of that list?
You know, how come no one else was allowed to opine?
So the experts who were in on the COVID.
Lie.
I mean, really, heads have to roll.
josie glabach
Well, that's what they did with even the laptop we have.
They use a lot of numbers.
So they'll come out with, oh, 51.
unidentified
51.
josie glabach
51, you know, or they'll come out with 1,000 people opposed RFK, 1,000 doctors opposed RFK.
So they come out, it's quantity over quality.
tim pool
I just want to address this for the naysayers.
I'm not saying it's guaranteed.
I'm saying I know for sure.
I'm saying I would prefer to be optimistic than pessimistic.
But let me just say this again.
A CIA whistleblower just said, Quoted on Fox News, and y'all just heard it Fauci's role in the cover up was intentional.
So it is now mainstream, publicly statable, even on YouTube, I can say this Dr. Fauci intentionally covered up the origin of COVID.
That's crazy.
Six years ago, you were insta banned for even mentioning COVID or lab leak or anything like that.
Now, I don't know that Fauci will go to jail, but this is not the first move.
Fauci, was it his assistant or whatever, was criminally indicted.
So, these moves are happening.
Comey getting indicted twice.
I'm not saying that Trump's going to come in and you're going to get a military tribunal with Hillary Clinton screaming, No, you'll never stop me.
And then someone's splashing water on her and she melts.
I'm saying at least something's happening right now.
And I'm going to stress this.
lisa reynolds
I feel like it's that big of a deal.
I feel like we already knew this.
Like, right, the right already knew this.
You know, the left, like, it's not going to trickle down to their base of people.
He may not get arrested.
So, like, to me, this is just more of what we already knew.
tim pool
Well, but yes, but who?
My point is this the swing was never going to be.
Like a full instant reversal.
The pendulum's got to come back down and start going the other way.
When they nuked USAID, I stress as much as I can say, I don't think people realize that Trump basically nuked them and they probably didn't see it coming.
daniel turner
Within the first week, that's the business meeting.
lisa reynolds
That was wonderful.
unidentified
They knew.
tim pool
And again, I'm stretching this.
I'm stretching this.
Trump is not the guy.
Trump is not the 4D chess guy.
Trump is the guy who got in and says, How are they doing this?
And they said, They are routing public funds through NGOs to pay lawyers and prop up their campaigns.
And he went, Nuke them.
And they cut off billions of dollars in circuitous funding systems.
Zeldin found a $7 billion slush fund for an NGO that was formed a month prior.
The game they were playing, they got Caught and they got shut down.
Now I don't know how they're going to fund their operations.
You can see what they're trying to do in Virginia, and even there, they're failing.
daniel turner
I testified before Congress on the Zeldin stuff you know, the billions of dollars that you just get your friends, you create an NGO, you know, the head of the IRS, they get your accreditation in a matter of weeks, and you apply for a grant, and you get a $2 billion grant to combat climate change.
And no proposal, no application, no history.
tim pool
Let me tell you, because I work for some of these companies, let me tell you what they do.
So I've done the street fundraising for environmental causes where you wave to someone and say, hey, Help me save the environment, right?
They give us their credit cards, we get the money.
And do you know what these companies do?
Do you think they fight to save the environment in any way?
You know they don't.
No, they don't.
And when I would ask these guys, what are we doing to actually help preserve the environment?
They say, well, isn't awareness an important function here?
And I'm like, hold on.
Are you saying that when I tell someone I'm fighting for the environment, that sentence is how we fight for the environment?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
The fact that you went out and asked for money.
And took that money is creating awareness of the problem.
And I said, So, your argument is when I ask them for money, if they say, 'What will you do with my money?' I say, 'I'll go ask other people for money.' Yep.
unidentified
Yeah.
daniel turner
These NGOs would set up, you know, we're going to, whether it's climate change or starving children in Africa, who doesn't love children, right?
And who doesn't want to stop starving children in Africa?
So, the first thing you do when you get your $500,000 or $5 million grant, $2 billion grant, is of course you need headquarters.
You need office space.
You need to hire your staff, your website, your stationery.
You have to have a conference.
So, you have a big conference in Vienna.
Everyone flies first class.
You stay there for a week.
You invite all these speakers.
Ian comes to speak, but Ian's got a $25,000 speaker fee.
So, of course, you pay for him.
And then at the end of the year, you say, Well, look, I've spent all this money.
It's like, Well, how many children in Africa did you?
unidentified
None.
daniel turner
But we did all of this, right?
unidentified
All of this.
daniel turner
And this is the whole cabal.
And then, of course, you invite congressional candidates, you invite Democrats.
You have them write checks back to their.
Everyone, you know, gives a $5,000 packed check to Ian, who's running for office.
tim pool
Here's another big secret.
daniel turner
I can't say that on camera.
tim pool
But you made your point.
Another big secret is a couple of other things these NGOs do they give your money to a Democrat.
The argument they make is we will use.
So they always operate two different.
Everyone does this.
There's a 501c3, a 501c4, because 501c4s can do politics and they're not publicly disclosed.
And so you give me $20 and I say, I will use this to fight for the environment.
What does that mean?
I just passed the $20 straight off to a Democrat.
unidentified
Good luck.
tim pool
Because I know the Democrats are for environmental issues.
That's all that matters.
What they do, it doesn't, you know, but it's what we did.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
I got to talk about Fauci for a second because if I was president, when I'm president and I'm running a secret military bioweapons campaign, my scientists will lie for me, and that's their job.
But that damn virus infected and destroyed so many Americans, and that guy still covered it up.
That's the problem.
They should have known.
If that wasn't intentional, then it was the greatest act of malfeasance I've ever seen in medical science.
But if it was malicious and intentional, and they were trying to affect people, then there should be, in my opinion, severe repercussions.
daniel turner
The only good part of COVID was you guys were in the other studio, and because of COVID, no one was allowed to travel.
So, I came on the show like every week.
So, I will thank Dr. Fauci publicly for giving me the power.
Every week, but otherwise, it was insanity.
The amount of just when you think of not just like families destroyed and businesses destroyed, marriages destroyed, suicide, people who moved into alcoholism and depression and opiates because their lives were just ruined.
You know, when you divorce, when you bankrupt people.
lisa reynolds
I had a great time during COVID.
I was traveling all over the place.
I got upgraded to Platinum pro on American aircraft.
I was traveling so much.
tim pool
I was the, during COVID, I had the biggest, I don't know, by volume, it might be the biggest political show in the world.
So we were doing 120 to 130 million views per month.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
During COVID.
Everybody's podcasts were much, much bigger though.
So proportional, you know.
ian crossland
We're desperate for something to keep them sane during that time, man.
josie glabach
How it affected children, the virus.
Like I was raising little kids at this time during COVID.
And I have one daughter who was about to start her speech therapy right as COVID hit.
And so, children, the way that they learn to talk, they have to see the mouth move.
And so, everybody's mouth is covered up.
And you have children with.
tim pool
Have you seen the video of the dude asking people to read a postcard?
josie glabach
Oh, yeah.
Math Is Stupid During Lockdowns 00:03:43
lisa reynolds
That's in Philly.
unidentified
Yeah.
lisa reynolds
Actually, the guy films right near the McDonald's near my house.
tim pool
He made another one that I was really shocked because it was a really easy one.
Like, I understand saying, like, gauche and, you know, a silhouette of clothes.
lisa reynolds
My daughter got it.
It's literally in sixth grade, and I go went over each one because he's done like four or five now, and I make her read them all.
And there was like one or two words that she struggled with.
She's 12, right?
But she used context clues and inferred the meaning of all those words.
tim pool
Like when she gets a word wrong, do you smack her?
lisa reynolds
No, I do like help her sound it out, and I'm like, but but I forget what the word was the other day.
She was like, well, the Latin root of that is blah blah blah.
So it means, um, it was, uh, I forget which word it was, it was just the other day, but that kid is from Philly, and then you know, they were trying to.
Expel him, right?
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
There's another one that he made where it was actually a much easier phrase.
That one really blew my mind.
I can't remember what it was.
lisa reynolds
Disciples, that's what she said.
She was like, that's the root word of some Latin word, whatever.
And she's like, so that means students.
I'm like, yeah, live, yeah.
If she does take that.
unidentified
There you go.
tim pool
Look at that.
unidentified
But yeah.
tim pool
These kids' brains are all fried.
ian crossland
Yeah, I don't think Fauci's like Herman Goring or anything, but he was, what were you going to say, Lisa?
tim pool
Yeah, worse, right?
lisa reynolds
Do you know what the literacy, the adult functional illiteracy rate is in Philadelphia?
Like, functionally illiterate adults, what percentage of Philadelphians, what?
tim pool
40.
lisa reynolds
Higher.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
I was being.
lisa reynolds
52% of adults in Philadelphia are functionally illiterate.
Look it up, I swear to God.
daniel turner
It's horrifying.
lisa reynolds
And if you look at it, Philly's not even one of the worst cities.
Look it up.
tim pool
We got to have a literacy system.
lisa reynolds
And these people get an equal vote to us.
First of all, women shouldn't vote.
Those people shouldn't vote.
No one should vote.
Really, the thing.
tim pool
Only I can vote.
lisa reynolds
The founders would be rolling over in their grave right now if they knew that.
52% of the population of Philadelphia gets it, but that's why Philadelphia is so screwed up.
The teachers, that kid did teachers too.
They couldn't even spell words.
tim pool
Oh, I loved it when he asked them to spell necessary and millennium.
unidentified
Come on.
lisa reynolds
And one was an English teacher.
The CEO couldn't spell it.
The CEO's, I'm telling you right now, Philly's messed up, but every big city is messed up.
These people have the same amount of weight in our government that you do, people that are educated.
This is unacceptable.
tim pool
To be fair, I heard that no other language has spelling bees.
Is that true?
Only English does spelling bees because English is an absurd language with an amalgam of a bunch of different languages.
unidentified
See that?
tim pool
Yeah, because we use Germanic, we use Romantic roots.
And then we might even borrow words from an African area or Asian, though they're less likely.
daniel turner
Yeah, that makes sense.
Like, if you say it to an Italian, like, how do you spell the word tremezzo?
They're like, well, there's only one way to spell it, idiot, right?
Like, if you say it's spelled exactly the way it sounds.
That's curious.
I never thought of that before, but it makes a lot of sense.
tim pool
Spelling is difficult.
And, like, the question is why does millennium have so many L's in it?
unidentified
You know what I mean?
tim pool
Like, so when they asked the principal to spell millennium and he couldn't do it, I'm like, well, you know.
lisa reynolds
No, you can't be like, well, no, you're the principal.
You're teaching our children.
That's why you can't have your kids in public school.
You can't even have your kids in Catholic school.
You just have to have your kids.
tim pool
I think math would be more funny.
I want to see a math one.
daniel turner
How's your daughter's teaching?
lisa reynolds
Let me tell you, the math, though, that they're doing, this like Singapore math that they call it right now.
unidentified
She still has.
What is it?
lisa reynolds
It's like they call it Singapore math and everything is like a bar model in it.
And like, it's a bar model?
It's a really ridiculous way to do math.
Even like, I have my kids go to math tutors just because.
And They're like, even they say, like, this math is stupid.
Woke People Want to Flatten Society 00:07:37
unidentified
It really is stupid.
tim pool
You know, I think part of what they do with COVID lockdowns is these woke people want to flatten society, social order.
They have the blank slate mentality.
They believe that the only reason white people are wealthy is because they have systemic privilege and black people are poor because of systemic racism.
So if you lock the whole world down so nobody can work, reset everything, start over again, Then everyone will be equal.
ian crossland
That guy's book was called COVID 19, The Great Reset.
Klaus Schwab wrote that book.
It was such a plan.
I mean, how could that be unplanned?
They're trying to reset the planet.
They talk about the Great Reset.
And then the book's called COVID 19, The Great Reset.
unidentified
Okay, Klaus.
ian crossland
Dude, okay.
The Manhattan Project, secret weapons program.
You got your scientists lying to the world.
That's wonderful for a military to do that.
But if you dropped the nuclear bomb on accident on Philadelphia, all those people should suffer consequences that were involved in that.
And they're going to be like, I was just following orders.
lisa reynolds
I don't mind that.
I live there.
ian crossland
Fauci was probably just following orders, probably.
But even so, like to see the lockdowns destroying people and to still push it and to still push it and to this day to still push it, like that is just beyond the pale, man.
daniel turner
Absolutely.
You look at going back to what you're saying about children, I just saw some report, I think it was Virginia schools overall, on how they're compared to 2015 levels, they're about two grades behind.
And it's like, well, yeah, COVID.
Like you had millions of children who for years were, you know, Zoom learning, but they weren't.
lisa reynolds
Our kids were allowed to opt.
We had in classes, no Zoom stuff, and our kids were allowed to opt out of masks.
So, like, my kids will didn't have that.
ian crossland
I'm not into vengeance, but I feel like if you don't punish Anthony Fauci for leading the charge on destroying children's, millions of people's lives for years, I like vengeance.
daniel turner
I just finished rereading The Count of Monte Cristo for like the fourth time.
unidentified
I do like vengeance.
ian crossland
It's only justice.
I mean, it's justice.
It's not that I want to harm.
I just.
tim pool
Have you watched the Netflix Disney Punisher series?
daniel turner
No, I have not.
tim pool
It's just.
It's just so great.
Like John Wick as well.
They're very similar.
daniel turner
John Wick was great.
tim pool
So they just put out a new Punisher.
They're trying to, you know, so the Punisher series they did on Netflix.
Then he has some cameos in the Daredevil series.
But I very much recommend men watch Punisher.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It was funny because I turned on Disney Plus.
And it's funny to turn on Disney Plus and then get a TV MA warning because John Bernthal is just, it's just, just blood.
It's like the screen may as well just been blood.
So, Punisher just massacring people for 40 minutes is just.
daniel turner
Right after Bluey, right?
It's all on Disney Plus.
lisa reynolds
What about the Odyssey stuff?
tim pool
Oh, you mean when they're.
This is brutal.
What's her name?
Lepita Nyango is going to be Helen of Troy.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, because that matches up.
tim pool
I don't believe for a second that Elliot Page is going to be Achilles.
carter banks
They keep saying that, but yeah, I don't believe.
lisa reynolds
I thought we were like done with this woke stuff.
And like Helen of Troy.
tim pool
Is described as golden haired with green eyes.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, like what is happening?
josie glabach
Thousand ships.
daniel turner
Yeah.
You have to.
The Academy Award rules now require that to be best picture nominee, you need a leading person to be a person of color.
unidentified
This guy is really good.
lisa reynolds
That's been there for like the last.
Five years.
daniel turner
Mr. Bernoulli is making a movie and he's like, This is going to be the best picture and I will win.
I don't care what the hell I have.
unidentified
Yeah, probably.
tim pool
But I want to stress this too.
lisa reynolds
Somebody wrote, Ellen of Detroit.
daniel turner
George Floyd.
unidentified
They changed the rules.
daniel turner
Yeah, George Floyd.
tim pool
Matt Walsh is getting criticized because he said, No one believes this woman is the most beautiful woman in the world.
lisa reynolds
That's true.
That's a fact.
He's correct.
unidentified
He is.
tim pool
But here's the thing.
He didn't say black women were not attractive.
He did not say Lapita or whatever her name is is not attractive.
He said she's not the most beautiful woman in the world.
unidentified
That's correct.
tim pool
Which is a fair assessment.
unidentified
She looks witchy.
lisa reynolds
That's why she played with the part, right?
tim pool
But no, but I also think that.
You know, for a black woman, she is attractive.
She has facial symmetry and all that stuff.
daniel turner
She wasn't the witch and wicked.
No, Lupita Nyungo, she was.
tim pool
No, you're talking about Cynthia.
lisa reynolds
Oh, yeah, that one's rough looking.
Maybe I'm confusing them.
I don't know.
I don't pay all that much attention.
tim pool
I'm just like, look, you know, my big problem with it is that that's not Helen of Troy.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
No, Helen of Troy is a character with a description.
lisa reynolds
From a certain place.
tim pool
Yeah.
So I don't think it's silly to be like, some people are like, oh, it's disgusting.
She's like, no, no, she's not ugly.
She's just the wrong person.
unidentified
Let me see.
tim pool
Now, Elliot Roger.
unidentified
Elliot.
tim pool
Elliot Page, as.
Achilles is the rumor.
There's no way that's true.
There's no way.
lisa reynolds
The memes are really funny.
tim pool
Five foot one, ab implant female is going to play six five broad shouldered Achilles.
daniel turner
No man is worthy to play.
lisa reynolds
They might do it.
If you read it, they might do it.
tim pool
I hope they do.
lisa reynolds
If you read the other one, I will never watch it.
I'm not going to watch it anyway because Helena Troy doesn't look like Helena Troy.
josie glabach
The memes are only going to get better.
lisa reynolds
The memes are funny.
ian crossland
Yeah, Carter would be Achilles.
I feel like I'd be Paris.
tim pool
The people in Elliott Page's life hate her.
Like, literally, just despise her.
lisa reynolds
She was so cute, too.
tim pool
Well, the ab implants, I think, is the.
lisa reynolds
Who gets that?
I mean, I'm for some corrective surgery, but ab implants?
unidentified
Like, oh.
ian crossland
Paris is in the Iliad.
I don't know.
This is the Odyssey.
It's a different movie.
Okay, I don't know that one.
Yeah, yeah.
carter banks
It's like a sequel to Troy.
tim pool
Yeah, here, look.
carter banks
Paris.
tim pool
So, this is more plates, more dates.
lisa reynolds
I'm sorry, that's disgusting.
tim pool
These are ab implants.
And so, everybody's pointing out, like, there's no development anywhere else.
These are people who work at 100% plastic surgery.
So, I'm just saying.
Elliot Page is a female, and all these people around her are saying, like, yeah, yeah, get the surgeries, get the surgeries.
It's also like Erin Moriarty.
You saw her from The Boys, and she claims she never got surgery, and they're claiming it's some kind of syndrome or whatever.
But you can tell she's got lip fillers because when people get lip fillers, they can't talk properly.
Their lips don't move anymore, and so they talk like a duck, like, let, let, let.
ian crossland
Well, technically, it's an injection and not a surgery.
Exactly, because there were no cuts made.
tim pool
People hate it.
unidentified
Is that what they said?
ian crossland
That's what my argument is.
I'm steel manning her argument if she said no surgery was done.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, I'm just sick of this.
I thought like woke was on the way out.
And then I hear this about this thing yesterday.
josie glabach
This is just immense body dysmorphia.
And instead of having people be like, no, you're perfect.
We love you the way you are, they're like, yeah, do that.
It's going to make you feel more like yourself.
But Elliot or what?
lisa reynolds
Yeah, these are the memes.
They're so.
josie glabach
Yeah, she's never going to be amazing.
lisa reynolds
The zipper chest one was funny.
ian crossland
She was, I thought, one of the best actors.
lisa reynolds
I'm sorry.
That one was not pretty at all.
daniel turner
And the tragic thing about it, which I remember talking about on this show once, years and years ago.
tim pool
I disagree.
unidentified
I'm not.
tim pool
I don't, you know.
unidentified
I don't find that.
tim pool
Everyone's allowed to have preference.
unidentified
Yeah.
Okay, sure.
tim pool
I'm not particularly attracted to black women, but I think she's got facial symmetry, clear skin.
You know, I can understand.
lisa reynolds
Airbrushed, like doctored up picture.
You see that in real life, it's not going to be good, I promise.
tim pool
You know, I'm just saying, like, she fits roles for movies, but she's not Helen of Troy.
unidentified
Or why is Troy anyway?
tim pool
Like, I thought Idris Elba.
People got mad that Idris Elba played Heimdall in Marvel because Heimdall is a Nordic god.
lisa reynolds
Well, kind of near Greece.
It's Greece and Turkey at the time, right?
daniel turner
I think now it's considered modern Turkey.
ian crossland
So it's a Northwest Anatolia, east of Constantinople.
So she might have had darker skin, but no, is she red to be a blonde?
lisa reynolds
No, they were blonde with green eyes, golden hair with green eyes.
unidentified
Yep.
daniel turner
Not that.
Helen was not Trojan.
She's called Helen of Troy, but she was Greek.
Remember when Paris was in Greece and stole her?
She was Greek.
So if she was Greek, I mean, they were blown Greeks.
tim pool
Oh, watch Troy.
unidentified
But it's a great movie.
daniel turner
They were blown Greeks.
ian crossland
Started the Trojan War.
Idris Elba as Heimdall 00:15:40
tim pool
I just wonder, like.
You read that book in seventh grade, by the way.
When he was dipped in the River Styx, why not just, you know, dip him again, holding a different part of him?
lisa reynolds
Because then it wouldn't be the.
carter banks
Cancel out.
ian crossland
I know, I thought that it wouldn't be the myth that.
It wouldn't be the myth that.
It would be the myth that.
It would be the myth that he dipped him 10 times.
Like, why didn't they dip his.
His Achilles heel.
unidentified
You only get one shot?
Exactly.
You only get one shot.
ian crossland
Her hand is invulnerable.
daniel turner
Because then it would be like Achilles' ears.
Like whatever they held him by, Achilles' pinkies.
They would have chopped up his pinky, would have bled to death.
ian crossland
For very fine strings, you know?
carter banks
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's talk about this AI story.
This is getting crazy.
Look at this.
From Fortune, nearly 50,000 Lake Tahoe residents have to find a new power source after their energy source looks to redirect lines to data centers.
You know?
unidentified
Yeah, this is the apocalypse.
ian crossland
This is why I was blackpilled.
Why I said that at the top of the show.
This is the stuff that's darkening my outlook.
I'm not like afraid, and I think that it's inevitable.
That's kind of what concerns me either we go, we revert into like an anarchistic tribal warfare where we're fighting and afraid to go outside because we have no police, or we go into AI technocratic overstate where if you say fuck online, the machines hear you and they go, ah, demonetize.
He said bad.
And like one, choose your path, human.
And do you guys see a middle ground?
Do you see them?
No, no, bro.
tim pool
They're stripping people's utilities away for data centers.
lisa reynolds
We're also like doing eminent domain too.
Like that girl in Georgia, I sent you that link today too.
unidentified
Yeah.
lisa reynolds
Where they're taking her house.
Yeah, her childhood home.
Yeah, in Georgia.
ian crossland
Why?
unidentified
What?
lisa reynolds
Here, you want me to show you?
Send it to you.
unidentified
Pull it up.
daniel turner
Eminent domain's ruthless.
lisa reynolds
Here, I'll just put it in the thing.
daniel turner
It's so abused.
lisa reynolds
I sent it to Ian.
That's how I know.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's Marjorie MT Greenie.
lisa reynolds
Marjorie Taylor Reed, actually, whatever.
unidentified
Here, wait.
tim pool
Is it Coetta County?
daniel turner
Supreme Court case, Kilo versus New London.
unidentified
Yeah.
daniel turner
For people who remember, big eminent domain.
unidentified
This one?
daniel turner
Case which ruined set a set an awful precedent.
lisa reynolds
Here, I'm just gonna send you this.
daniel turner
No one called the courts illegitimate afterwards.
No one said it was corrupt.
We just said it was a terrible decision.
ian crossland
But is it just that the government at any point for any reason can seize any property?
daniel turner
It was supposed to be for like a video, whether it was some unforeseen, incorrective, like it had to go through the road, had to go this way, right?
It was not unforeseen, but there was no alternative for the communal good.
Kilo versus New London was when the city of New London, Connecticut wanted to seize a bunch of houses to build a shopping mall.
And the people were like, well, we're not selling.
And they were like, you have to sell because the shopping mall will generate all this revenue.
And so we're going to use eminent domain.
And they sued, and it got all the way up to the Supreme Court.
And the Supreme Court sided with the city and said, yeah, if you want to confiscate their land because of promised tax revenue, that's what you got to pay them fair market value.
unidentified
Hey, you guys, my name's Ansley.
I live in Coweta County, Georgia.
I wanted to come out here and show you guys firsthand what is happening to our county.
So, as you can see behind me, we have these power lines.
Georgia Power is going to expand these lines.
To support power to the data center.
What they're doing to homeowners is they're taking their homes.
This is my childhood home behind me.
It is being taken by force by Georgia Power.
Homeowners in this county do not have a choice.
It is called eminent domain, and they will take it.
lisa reynolds
Hey, that's a cute house, too.
josie glabach
Yeah, it looks adorable.
tim pool
Yeah, so the lawsuit was filed.
This is from May 7th.
At the heart of the fight is a stretch of undeveloped land near Welcome to Sargent Road, tucked inside the Chattahoochee River Basin, designated by the state of Georgia as most significant groundwater recharge area.
They need the water, they got to cool them down.
So, yeah, the petitioners are a mix of adjacent landowners, nearby residents, and concerned citizens.
You're not going to stop the data centers because you are an ant and the machine will not be stifled.
So, good luck.
unidentified
Correct.
ian crossland
Sometimes the ants take over.
lisa reynolds
Or they get into a death spiral.
ian crossland
That can happen too if they take your food away.
I think, I wonder if the government's just going to say, look, it's a military need.
We have to have this AI for national defense.
tim pool
Yes, but I'm just, I want to mention everybody, I want you all to remember every single video we've seen of city hall meetings where.
Across the country for a decade now, we've gotten videos where angry residents are all screaming and protesting.
And it's not Antifa, it's regular people being like, no, you can't do this.
And the city council goes, shut up.
We had it with the trans debate in Loudoun County.
Dad comes in, my daughter was raped, you're under arrest.
Now you've got these data centers and these power transmission lines, and the city councils are like, do something.
You can't.
It is the wildest thing how many videos I've seen of people going to their city hall or town hall meetings, and the city, the councillors or whatever politicians are just like, Too bad you can't do anything about it.
And the people literally can't.
I'm just like, bro, sooner or later, Antifa shows up in a town like that, and people are going to be like, thank you.
lisa reynolds
I feel like it's like this is not as bad as when they take your land for Section 8 housing and they're like taking a part of it and they're like, oh, we need more Section 8 housing.
And then not only do you get to stay on part of your land, they took the other part of it, and then you got to live near all that.
That's worse.
ian crossland
I just posted in IRL this data center from Valutainment's Twitter page from yesterday.
It's just video.
Of a data center humming, it is one of the more dystopian.
Like, if you, and there's only what 50 employees in these giant centers, they each employee cost like six million dollars to train.
Who knows what they're costing?
And, like, can you imagine a completely autonomous building that even if you go near it, it will kill you, it will just destroy you with vibration or something?
And these ominous things that, like, if you don't build them, the enemy will.
And if you don't get the drones up first, the enemy will.
lisa reynolds
So, like, I'm gonna love it.
I want it all to be destroyed, all of it.
Like, industrial revolution and all, like, it's gotta go.
None of this is right.
This is not the way humans should be living at all.
daniel turner
There are solutions, but they require a lot of political will.
First off, they should be buried, and you should be able to build a park on top of it.
There's no reason for the hum, for the cooling.
The reason why they're so hot is because they're exposed to the sun.
That's why they use so much water.
It's gonna be more expensive to bury them.
tim pool
Well, power consumption is hot as well.
daniel turner
But exactly, but just bury them.
That's an easy solution.
Secondly, they should all be built on the north slope of Alaska.
Because they don't have to be near.
tim pool
We build our transmission.
daniel turner
Build the transmission lines, right?
You can easily build.
I mean, we built a pipeline to the north slope of Alaska.
You can build transmission lines.
tim pool
A lot of oil up there.
daniel turner
A lot of.
Exactly.
They should be built where the energy and the water is, but we're building them.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, and it's cold.
daniel turner
Because we're building them.
tim pool
Building the permafrost.
daniel turner
it for us.
So if you're the CEO of X company, you're like, well, yeah, build it in Loudoun County because then I only have to drive a half hour if I need to go check it out.
So there should be some sort of.
I don't like big government master plans, but there are solutions to this.
Rather than piss off all the residents across the board.
But those solutions require political will, they require a little bit of intelligence, a little bit of thought, and we're just getting steamrolled.
ian crossland
SpaceX and Google are working together to build them in orbit.
Thank God.
daniel turner
Fascinating.
ian crossland
Also, in the ocean, I've heard someone was telling me earlier that they're building spherical data centers that can roll in the ocean.
So, I don't think that no matter how hard they get hit, they'll just roll and they'll stay functioning and that will keep them cool.
But then they're vulnerable to enemy attack.
The nice thing about having them close to the military defense sites is if someone wants to blow it up, you can shoot them out of the sky, hopefully.
If they're in orbit, last night someone referred to them as mutually assured.
If they're going to blow up orbital data centers, it would destroy, it would cause catastrophic debris that could kill everyone on Earth.
So, it's like a nuclear weapon if blowing those up.
Maybe they'd be safe.
Maybe if a Chinese data center comes above the United States, we shoot it down because what's China orbiting a data center above us for?
daniel turner
They did the spy.
unidentified
Here you go.
Here you go, guys.
Who would want to live next to that?
Hold on, hold on.
josie glabach
I hate that.
The vibration.
unidentified
So, this is comparable to the data center.
So, this is.
tim pool
Dude, it is insane how quickly they are popping up data centers all over the place.
People, I'm going to stress it, man.
I was just showing some of the old music that we made earlier today to some people we had come in.
And I was showing them the song Genocide, where we had an AI company, and this is what, three and a half years ago.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And it was really just crappy, rudimentary AI where their faces look like rubber.
And we're just like, I'm like, look at this AI from back then.
We were all like, we can make Rachel Maddow sing our song.
Isn't this crazy?
Today, it's like, bro, you can make her fight ninjas.
ian crossland
Did you show the people the Ben Davidson video for you and Ben Davidson at For Cuts?
It looks like you finally, AI's figured out how to make Tim very successful.
lisa reynolds
Is this when you were in the line in Super Cuts?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
One of the more challenging personas to recreate seemed to be Tim Poole for some reason.
tim pool
What I'm saying is, I don't think people understand just how rapid AI is developing.
Every day when we're starting the show and we're getting ready for the show, I'll put on music.
So I have a bunch of songs I've written.
I'll record into my phone, upload it to Sunno, and then render it into a full production song.
And I kid you not, every other guest will go, Who is this?
And then I'll be like, It's AI.
And they'll go, I was trying to Shazam it or whatever.
Because they think it's full production.
People don't get it.
Take a look at this.
This one's hilarious.
This is me and Ben Davidson.
ian crossland
The raging waters follow, piling higher and higher.
benny johnson
You don't get it.
The magnetic field is about 20 years from reversal, and half the plant is going to die.
unidentified
Sir, this is a super cuts.
ian crossland
The raging water.
tim pool
I don't know why I'm there.
ian crossland
It's funny that you heard of it.
lisa reynolds
You got your stance right.
tim pool
Whoever made it was like, well, I'm wearing bracelets or something and I have boots on.
ian crossland
Looks good, boots.
tim pool
I have skin tight black jeans.
But whoever made it was like, if I put Tim Pool in it, it'll get a lot more shares.
unidentified
It'll get some clicks.
tim pool
That's what they do.
unidentified
Yeah.
daniel turner
Well, this is why they're building data centers everywhere.
You're making music.
Spencer Pratt's making killer videos every single day.
lisa reynolds
They are fire.
daniel turner
We're driving the day.
I mean, we can all be opposed to it, but.
We are driving the data centers.
tim pool
This is the drug, though.
Really, what's going to happen is the first thing they're going to offer up is virtual experiences.
So I watched a video.
Holy crap.
It's a woman and she's got a VR setup where she wears a haptic vest.
There's a bunch of these videos, but I don't think she had the gloves.
One guy had gloves for full control where you can actually manipulate your fingers.
They were playing various games.
This woman's playing Skyrim and she was like, there's an LLM mod so that.
All of the NPCs in the game have adaptive conversations.
Meaning, in Skyrim, you walk up to a villager and you just say straight up, What are you doing here?
And it'll go, Excuse me, do I know you?
And you'll say, No, but I asked you a question.
And it'll go, Well, I don't have to answer it.
And then you can be like, Answer it or I'll kill you.
And he's like, No, please don't hurt me.
It's wild that they've put you can already use GPT in Skyrim.
Now you're wearing this vest.
You put the headset on and you're literally running around.
What is that place?
What is the world called in Skyrim?
ian crossland
Tamriel.
tim pool
Is that what it is?
Tamriel?
Yeah, see, I knew Ian would know.
And you're running around fighting dragons, and you get companions, and you can talk to them.
We talked about this a couple years ago, remember?
People are going to have AI girlfriends in video games where they play a virtual reality game, and they'll have an AI generated girlfriend, and you'll be able to get an app on your phone.
You know, can we get an investor?
Because if I just made this right now, I'll be a billionaire.
Imagine this you have your PlayStation, you're playing virtual Skyrim, you find an AI generated NPC, she becomes your companion.
You then download an app where you can literally call into your save file and talk to your girlfriend.
daniel turner
And she can text you.
Hey, thinking about you, what you doing?
Oh, my girlfriend's texting me.
tim pool
And the game can run in real time as a server.
So check this out.
You can literally send a text to your digital girlfriend and be like, hey, hon, can you feed the chickens right now?
I'm at work.
And then she'll be like, Got it.
You'll come home from work, put the headset on, and she'll be like, You're back.
I fed the chickens while you're away.
That could happen right now.
Someone just needs to make the app.
We predicted that a couple of years ago.
People are already doing this stuff.
The AI systems are going to offer you up everything you could ever want haptic feedback.
What did I say?
I said liberals are going to lock themselves in to fight dragons, and we're watching this happen every day.
lisa reynolds
What scares me is they're marketing it to children.
I play a game here and there on my phone, and the ads come up, and it's like, This cute little animated dinosaur, or whatever.
And it's like, hey, do you need a friend?
And it's like an AI friend for kids to download and talk to.
tim pool
Yeah, but they're going to have a commercial for you where they're like, Lisa, if you put on the headset, you can go and experience a full virtual world with full NPCs they can talk to like real people.
And in this reality, all the Democrats are getting arrested.
lisa reynolds
I don't like real people.
Why would I like fake people?
tim pool
In this reality, they're arresting Democrats.
unidentified
Maybe I'll go there.
tim pool
You put the headset on, you stand there and just watch Karen Bass being dragged into a paddy wagon.
lisa reynolds
That'd be amazing.
tim pool
We say paddy wagon.
Is that racist?
lisa reynolds
Yeah, no, paddy wagon.
As a quarter Irish person, I can give you.
josie glabach
I have two points.
One I want to jump back to is there a way to find out the hurts that are being put out from those data centers?
Because, I mean.
ian crossland
I could ask AI.
josie glabach
Yeah, go ahead, ask AI, because that can cause nausea, dizziness.
Like it really can interfere, sleep difficulties.
But then at high levels, frequencies that are bad for your body can affect your heart and your breathing.
So I wonder if something like that.
lisa reynolds
It could be bad for the animals, like for actual nature, for birds and bees and all the things that we're doing.
tim pool
I'm telling you.
unidentified
Bury them.
tim pool
Young people right now, people in their 20s, Gen Z, they're probably going, I can't get a date.
I can't find a job.
Why should I struggle when I can put on the headset and just be a king?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
You put the headset on, and then instantly a beautiful woman with big tits goes, My leash.
unidentified
Sleep with me, please.
ian crossland
The only problem is if the power goes out.
tim pool
And you're like, I love VR, man.
ian crossland
If the power goes out there, it'd be a worldwide revolution at that phase, but they're figuring out how to tap the vacuum of energy.
They can literally.
tim pool
Casmere effect, huh?
ian crossland
Yeah, they're drawing electricity out of the vacuum by using the Casmere effect in electrodes.
Like, Casmere effect is when.
Two pieces of matter get so close that they force all the matter between them out and create a vacuum and then they snap together.
So you hold these plates close enough where you've created that vacuum tension and they can't come together.
Yeah.
And just you get a small charge out of it, but that can scale.
And then these AI machines will never be able to be turned off.
tim pool
So someone today was like, big news.
Apparently, they created very, very small plates to create very, very small amounts of energy from the Casimir effect, but effectively pulling it from the ether.
So this tiny little thing can, so right now, The amount of energy they can produce would just power a sensor, which requires almost no energy as it is.
So they scale those things up, pulling energy from vacuums from the void.
phillycheese45 in unknown
Oh my God.
tim pool
AI machines that never shut down.
unidentified
Please.
Sorry.
josie glabach
Okay.
So there was a story.
It was probably Reddit Lies.
That account might have shared it.
I could be wrong, but it was from Reddit.
And it was a gentleman who said, My son is autistic and he has one of those AI friends that you brought up.
And the autistic son, the dad found out he was asking, How do I make friends?
How do I talk to my parents and asking questions like that, which is just devastating?
You know, like, you know, think it as like a mother that this autistic child found a way to communicate through the say through this chat bot.
CIA Spied on Whistleblowers 00:16:24
josie glabach
The dad's like, but I got rid of it because of the data centers.
So I told him he was, I explained the data centers to him, and now he's not allowed to use the chat bot.
And you know, part of me's like, okay, I get it.
The data centers are bad, but you know, chat bots are also a better parent.
lisa reynolds
They're also teaching people how to like murder people and stuff.
daniel turner
Like, that's a good use of that.
That helps a developmentally disabled person like find a way to.
That's a good thing.
But we're at the end of, or like the middle of the movie Inception, which is an all time favorite back to Christopher Nolan movies, where remember they go into that room where everyone is hooked up to the little machine, and the old man says, They've been here for hours, but in their world, it's been 30, 40 years, right?
They don't want to live in this world.
They want to be in that world.
And that's what Tim is getting to.
Like, why would I want to be in this world if I can't get a job?
You know, I'll just put on my headset and I'll be the CEO.
I'll be Elon Musk in my virtual reality.
Ultimately, though, you do have to eat.
You do have to go to the bathroom, right?
You do have to find toilet paper to go to the bathroom.
You do have to, and all that stuff is not virtual.
And that's going to be really hard.
Who's taking care of that?
When you're done with your four hour session where you have the buxom girlfriend and you're the CEO and everything is great, but now you are starving, how much harder is your come down?
It's like when you have, you know, it's like when you have some sort of drug problem, right?
The higher of the high, but means the lowers of the low.
lisa reynolds
That's what Gabriel's house got right here.
ian crossland
Yeah, it would create like a form of addiction.
unidentified
Fact check that.
lisa reynolds
Okay.
ian crossland
Maybe they would hook catheters into the urethras and the poop butts and tubes in the throat so they constantly get fed and their waste is removed and they just sit there for unended amounts of time and then they get paid to do it by the machine that wants to harvest their biorhythms and stuff.
But then as soon as that thing ends, they're going to freak.
I mean, they'll be completely sociopathic, dangerous if they're not intubated essentially at that phase.
So you've created a class of like dangerous.
That's the thing is if AI is like, these people are actually a very high risk, this might just terminate them.
tim pool
So, this is a this broke 40 minutes ago.
I saw Lisa saw people chatting about it.
Nick Sortor says, Holy crap, the CIA just raided Tulsi Gabbard's office.
The CIA doesn't perform domestic operations.
unidentified
That's why I see this.
tim pool
I'm like, uh, what?
jesse watters
And this just in, John.
The CIA just raided Tulsi Gabbard's office.
Agents hauled out dozens of boxes, files on the JFK assassination and MKUltra, the CIA mind control operation, which she was in the process of declassifying.
Today's whistleblower said it during his deposition, and Congresswoman Annapolina Luna confirmed it moments ago.
anna paulina luna
The reason why this is troubling is A, there was an executive order that the president had directed the full declassification of JFK, but then also to the MKUltra files.
The CIA famously has said that all documents were released and other documents had been destroyed.
So these are allegedly those documents that apparently never existed.
jesse watters
And this is just in, John.
tim pool
This is crazy.
I mean, this is a coup.
This is insane.
Tulsi is the director of national intelligence.
She oversees these.
These organizations.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
That's what we're supposed to be doing.
Domestic operations like this.
unidentified
This is.
lisa reynolds
No, even when they have people that are internal spies and stuff, don't they get the FBI to go investigate and make a decision?
tim pool
The CIA is supposed to be collecting intelligence from foreign adversaries.
unidentified
Correct.
josie glabach
Who are the CIA answering to then?
Who's their real boss?
lisa reynolds
Themselves, like they've always been.
tim pool
I mean, this is.
lisa reynolds
This is wild.
tim pool
Hard to believe.
I'm trying to find more on it because this is very hard to believe.
Again, because they don't do domestic operations like this.
lisa reynolds
So, Tommy Tech's neck could be like, Are you sure it's this?
tim pool
Yeah, Nick's order posted this today.
unidentified
Yeah.
josie glabach
Um, Anna Paulina Luna came out and said something about this earlier today.
This is more than 40 minutes ago.
It was related to that.
And she said that they'd taken files, but I didn't hear about the raid.
And she said that they better return them or I will subpoena them.
What Anna Paulina Luna said.
ian crossland
John Ratcliffe is the current director of the CIA, by the way.
I don't know.
I don't know him.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, everybody's running this.
This is who?
josie glabach
Where did John Ratcliffe get in?
tim pool
Crazy.
josie glabach
Get in under Trump?
unidentified
I.
ian crossland
Yes.
lisa reynolds
I just asked Anna Polina Luna's chief of staff if it was the CIA or the FBI that actually raided them because that just may be a mistake.
ian crossland
Maybe, but if the CIA is protecting the CIA, maybe that's their emotion.
tim pool
So, wait, wait.
This story is from seven hours ago?
unidentified
Yes.
Okay.
josie glabach
I knew I heard about it earlier.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Why is Fox News saying this just in?
unidentified
Clicks.
lisa reynolds
Maybe because it was.
unidentified
Maybe.
tim pool
I also didn't hear the story and there's no articles about it.
josie glabach
I heard it this morning.
I heard it earlier.
lisa reynolds
I didn't hear this morning either.
josie glabach
I didn't hear about the raid.
The raid is new.
I knew that they took files.
tim pool
I said, no, where the CIA does not run domestic operations or policing like the FBI.
This is a Hail Mary.
This is the deep state.
They are told, pardon my friends, shitting their pants.
lisa reynolds
They are told it's the CIA.
unidentified
Holy.
Yeah.
daniel turner
This is something, something is.
unidentified
Whoa.
josie glabach
They probably just took those.
They're just going to do a burn barner with it.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
josie glabach
They're just going to.
tim pool
This is crazy.
Well, guys, I want to say this again.
The CIA doesn't do things like this.
When you watch these TV shows and they're like a CIA agent, they'll go around shooting people, they don't do that stuff.
It's just not reality.
CIA is largely dudes with glasses, single computers, collecting information from foreign adversaries and doing, you know, intelligence gathering.
daniel turner
But as you just said, some of them are trying to get ahead of the collapse of the D state by being whistleblowers, like the guy who testified on COVID.
tim pool
This is the other direction.
daniel turner
Well, if you know that Tulsi Gabbard has 40 files and you're in them 37 times, maybe you will take it upon yourself to just get those damn files and burn them before.
And you get in trouble afterwards, you'll get in trouble.
Damn it, Tim.
lisa reynolds
They've had them for a while.
daniel turner
Who authorized you to steal those files?
tim pool
This was posted by Rep Luna earlier today.
I did not see this.
I Google it.
There's no stories about it.
And a story is just breaking now.
We're seeing a bunch of accounts posting in the last 40 minutes and in between.
So 10 minutes ago, 20 minutes ago.
Again, I searched for any information on this.
Nothing is coming up from any corporate news outlets except for Fox News.
daniel turner
Something's fishy.
josie glabach
They know what's in those files.
They know what hasn't been declassified yet.
tim pool
Can you get more details?
I'm going to say it again.
This is.
How do I describe this?
This is damn near the point at which Matt Brainerd said two vehicles speed at 100 miles an hour to a police department.
Two guys jump out of the cars, run up to the chief of police, and yell, arrest that man.
If this is true that CIA agents raided the director of national intelligence's office to seize documents from her while the president was overseas, we are looking at coup level.
josie glabach
That's a good point, President.
unidentified
Yeah, this is.
tim pool
The entire administration, he brought Elon with him, Rubio, they're all on a trip for a delegation to China, and the CIA acting outside of their purview against their own boss.
That's why I'm like, when Lisa showed me this, she's like, the CIA doesn't rate things.
And then I look it up, and I'm like, we got this report from Fox News, Jesse Water saying it.
I find this very hard to believe.
lisa reynolds
And Congress is literally being told it's the CIA.
tim pool
This is a coup.
This is insane.
ian crossland
Did Radcliffe authorize this?
tim pool
Ratcliffe?
ian crossland
The director, John Ratcliffe, yeah.
tim pool
Tulsi Gabbard's in charge of all of it.
They raided the boss's office.
ian crossland
Who authorized the raid?
That's what I want to know.
tim pool
This is nuts.
daniel turner
I bet you it's individual rogue agents who know exactly what's in those files.
tim pool
Like, Tulsi's not saying raid my own office.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
If they needed anything from her, she'd be like, here's where it's at.
You can take it.
daniel turner
If you knew what was in that file, is it better to go to jail for violating protocol and burning files without authorization?
Or is it better for those files to get released?
What the hell's in those files?
lisa reynolds
What's the quote from Luna there?
We were actually just notified that the CIA.
tim pool
This is the office of the Director of National Intelligence.
It's not just Tulsi Gabbard's office.
This is the CIA attacking the civilian oversight.
josie glabach
So, what happened?
I mean, do we have to wait for Trump to make a statement?
Does JD Vance fill in now?
Because he's.
lisa reynolds
Who knows?
They're in a different time zone.
daniel turner
Yeah, the vice president stays when the president goes overseas normally and is in charge.
Actually, the president signs like a little document.
tim pool
They're going to destroy these documents before anything.
daniel turner
In the case of something that happens while I'm overseas, he's not the acting president, but he has the full authority on the president.
lisa reynolds
Because Luna was looking into the JFK files and stuff, right?
She had some hand in all these conspiracy theory stuff, too.
She had access to a lot of them.
ian crossland
What were the other files that were.
lisa reynolds
I know you mentioned JFK, MKUltra, right?
carter banks
MKUltra is a big one.
lisa reynolds
MKUltra is a really big one.
But I thought that like we had most of that because they like got rid of the documents.
And then there was that guy, the reporter, that found some other additional documents in one of the guys that was involved in MKUltra.
They found it in his like library when he died.
He like donated his stuff to a library and a reporter found some things.
And that's how we were told about, originally found out about MKUltra.
But they originally destroyed most of the documents.
tim pool
This is high level sedition.
This is crazy.
This is, I gotta be careful, but this sounds like death penalty stuff.
unidentified
Is she.
lisa reynolds
They don't do that.
I wish they did.
tim pool
But, like, I'm saying in the law, we went over this with sedition.
Sedition is 25 years, it's like 10 years and a fine, but military sedition is death.
lisa reynolds
Is, is, did Tulsi put out any statement yet?
unidentified
I don't know.
ian crossland
Is she in China also?
We didn't really talk about it, but a bunch of the administrations in China with the sedition.
I hadn't.
daniel turner
That actually is a big show for us.
I don't think she.
lisa reynolds
They'll say, check out Anna Polina Luna's statement.
There are some clarifications.
So, I guess if you go to Anna Polina Luna's.
unidentified
Well, I got it.
tim pool
She's got this demand of record preservation.
lisa reynolds
Is that her statement, though?
That might not be her statement.
Hold on, let me ask.
tim pool
The Committee on Oversight and Government Reform is requesting you preserve all existing and future records and materials related to the assassination of JFK, Project MKUltra.
Yada, yada, yada.
That's this is insane.
lisa reynolds
First of all, if I ever got my hands on those documents as a safer, wouldn't you automatically make a copy and see somebody did anything?
ian crossland
Probably did.
lisa reynolds
I hope they did.
josie glabach
Yeah, there's got to be a hard copy somewhere.
lisa reynolds
Or a digital copy.
Let me find her thing.
Let me go to her website.
tim pool
Kelsey did not go to China with Trump.
unidentified
What was the last thing you said to him about Trump?
tim pool
Kelsey did not go.
ian crossland
She didn't go.
tim pool
But Trump's not here.
josie glabach
Not in her office yet.
lisa reynolds
Where's her website?
Let me go to the press part.
House.gov, Anna Plina Luna, press legislation.
ian crossland
I bet the whole term, like the CIA, is probably kind of obfuscatively vague on purpose.
How many layers of operations are happening within an organization called the CIA?
unidentified
Exactly.
daniel turner
The intelligence community is huge.
I mean, there's probably not dozens, but there's 15 or so agencies.
You know, they all have agents, they all have guns, they all have badges, they all have authorization.
I think we just throw around the term CIA for everybody, but who knows who these people were?
ian crossland
Gosh, Mike Benz.
I keep thinking about Mike Benz.
He knows how these agencies are connected.
lisa reynolds
You should call him.
ian crossland
Yeah, I know.
unidentified
I want to get him on stage.
josie glabach
Call him for the after show.
ian crossland
Ben's, are you watching?
unidentified
Call.
I'll call.
I'll text him.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, me too.
tim pool
Yeah, we should call him.
Can we call Mike?
And be like, Mike, what's happening?
unidentified
Yes.
Where is he?
lisa reynolds
We've done that before where we can pick up on the mic.
Do you want me to call him?
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, well, text him first.
I want to put, you know.
unidentified
Text him.
tim pool
Ask me if he knows about it.
This is wild because I Googled it, nothing comes up.
unidentified
Yeah.
josie glabach
Well, that's kind of alarming too.
tim pool
Is the, yeah.
josie glabach
Are they saying don't report on this?
tim pool
Well, Fox News reported it definitively.
I'm going to play this again.
I want to play exactly what.
daniel turner
Well, the weird thing also is that Jesse Waters is reporting it like it's breaking, but it's from seven hours ago, and shows don't.
I mean, they kind of give us the impression they got these.
unidentified
You also have some.
tim pool
But I mean, is this because they only just got confirmation?
jesse watters
The CIA just raided Tulsi Gabbard's office.
Agents hauled out dozens of boxes, files on the JFK assassination, and MKUltra, the CIA mind control operation, which she was in the process of declassifying.
unidentified
Wow.
jesse watters
Today's whistleblower said it during his deposition, and Congresswoman Annapolina Luna confirmed it moments ago.
anna paulina luna
The reason why this is troubling is A, there was an executive order that the president had directed the full declassification.
Of JFK, but then also to the MKUltra files.
The CIA famously has said that, you know, all documents were released and other documents had been destroyed.
So these are allegedly those documents that apparently never existed.
jesse watters
And this just in.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
So I want to be very careful here because what I see is Fox News is reporting that Anna Paulina Luna went on News Nation and said the CIA did this.
However, earlier, Anna Paulina Luna was quoting.
Seven hours ago, if I can find this, what is it like?
Lead report or something.
Leading report.
She was quoting leading report, which.
lisa reynolds
She has a clarification from that thing and said, took documents that ODNI has jurisdiction over.
Also, this did not happen today and was not a quote raid.
However, it did take place and we are just being made aware of it based on reporting, et cetera.
tim pool
When did it happen?
So I guess the reporting is actually the CIA whistleblower.
That's what leading report is quoting in his testimony before Congress today, said that it happened.
Then it gets picked up.
unidentified
Then.
tim pool
Luna says it on News Nation, then Fox just reports it now.
daniel turner
So it could be a turf war between different intelligence agencies that don't trust each other.
ian crossland
If this is.
tim pool
So let's walk through this.
If it is true that it was not like just now they raided this, but it happened a while ago, and we're only just finding out that it happened, there is a civil war happening between powerful elites in this country, if that's the case.
Because she's the ODNI.
ian crossland
The ODNI.
Is that the.
What is the ODNI?
tim pool
Office of the Director of National Intelligence.
lisa reynolds
The report has something on it, too.
CIA sees 40 boxes of JFK that were being processed.
tim pool
Yeah, I've got it.
lisa reynolds
I hope you read that one.
unidentified
Okay.
lisa reynolds
And then she said.
tim pool
But I don't know how credible the leading report is.
lisa reynolds
She said the CIA has 24 hours to return the documents to Tulsi Gabbard's office or she'll make a motion to issue a statement.
tim pool
Can you ask them, like, what is their confirmation?
When did it happen?
What do we know about it?
ian crossland
And you said the ONI has jurisdiction, Office of Naval Intelligence.
That's who has jurisdiction over it?
daniel turner
Office of National Intelligence.
ian crossland
ONI is Office of Naval Intelligence.
tim pool
No, it's ODNI.
ian crossland
ODNI is different.
ODNI.
daniel turner
The Director of National Intelligence.
tim pool
But that's Tulsi's office.
So why would her own office, but why would the CIA raid the ODNI?
ian crossland
Well, I thought Lisa said that these were files were under the jurisdiction of the ONI.
lisa reynolds
I said ODNI.
ian crossland
Okay, thank you.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
daniel turner
I don't remember.
lisa reynolds
I'm sorry.
If I didn't say anything, I was probably being dyslexic or something.
daniel turner
This was after 9 11.
They created the Office of the Director of National Intelligence because they said, hey, CIA knew about this, and FBI knew, and Naval Intelligence knew, and DIA Defense Intelligence knew, Osama bin Laden.
And oh, I knew that there were a bunch of Saudis learning how to fly planes, and none of them were talking to each other.
So the DNI is supposed to, the Director of National Intelligence is supposed to coordinate all of them.
But doesn't really have jurisdiction over them.
unidentified
So we have this.
daniel turner
The CIA is CIA, and they're the CIA.
james erdman-iii
The CIA refused to provide information necessary to understand why analytical standards at the CIA were violated.
The CIA illegally monitored the computer and phone usage of DIG personnel, their investigations, and contact with whistleblowers.
These were Americans being spied upon illegally while executing duties directed by the president and under the authority of the director of national intelligence.
One CIA contractor assisting with the dig's investigation into the events that transpired between 2022 and 2023 was fired by the CIA one day after meeting with the dig.
Uncensored Rants Coming Soon 00:14:30
james erdman-iii
When the dig ceased operations, the CIA also took back 40 boxes of JFK files and MKUltra files being processed for declassification by DNI Gabbard.
unidentified
So, CIA.
tim pool
So, so wildly exaggerated what he actually said.
They took back boxes, it then gets turned into a CIA raid.
It then gets aired on Fox News as they just did it because Rep Luna went on News Nation saying they raided.
Okay, so this is still crazy, but it sounds actually like something Tulsi Gabbard knew of.
Yeah, so very strange.
daniel turner
It's more of a territorial dispute.
You don't get to release those documents, those are my documents.
Oh, yeah, well, I'm gonna get control of everything.
She's not the ODNI is not really doesn't have jurisdiction.
It's a coordinating role.
It doesn't really have jurisdiction over CIA or defense intelligence or the FBI.
It's a coordinating role, but it's not like the executive producer where everyone reports to you, which is why people don't like that job because Tulsi can be like, hey, CIA, I want to know what you're doing.
Yeah, sure.
I'll tell you tomorrow.
unidentified
I'd say that.
daniel turner
It's cumbersome.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
So she, Anna, plainly just tweeted this 20 minutes ago, 15 minutes ago.
They took documents that ODI had jurisdiction over.
It did not happen today, it was not a raid.
However, it did take place, and we are just being made aware of it based on reporting.
unidentified
Okay, I see.
tim pool
So everybody's, it's still crazy.
And it makes us question why the CIA is acting against the executive orders of Donald Trump.
But if this, that's what I'm saying.
Like, I find it hard to believe the CIA raided her office while Trump's over.
Like, that's coup level stuff.
josie glabach
That's how it was reported.
unidentified
Yeah.
josie glabach
Yeah, for sure.
I'd said during the green room earlier today that the CIA and the FBI, they act like a fourth branch of government, and they're an unconstitutional fourth branch of government, and they don't have a constitutional check and balance.
For that matter.
And we're kind of seeing that here.
daniel turner
And it also explains or is evidence of why journalism and reporting matters, right?
You shouldn't report a story that says CIA raids office of.
You're allowed to do that when you're like some idiot on social media because you're just trying to get clicks and likes.
But if you're a serious news agency.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, not as serious as I originally thought, but still not good.
daniel turner
You have to be careful about your language, right?
Language does have value and words have meaning.
unidentified
True.
daniel turner
It just pisses me off when Hakeem Jeffries is always saying that courts are.
Illegitimate and corrupt and Donald Trump's a cartel.
Like words have meaning and value.
If everything is hyperbolic and everything, we have to be careful with the words that we choose, otherwise then then then there's no point in actually speaking.
lisa reynolds
It makes them look so bad though to even like go in and take any documents anyway, like it makes it it would.
daniel turner
It's like some good stuff in this.
lisa reynolds
I know I want to read it so badly.
daniel turner
Really good stuff.
Could you imagine?
We haven't even talked about the UFO documents.
lisa reynolds
For this to be, for like them to go do that there's.
There's, Certainly, things they don't.
tim pool
Oh, this is wild.
YouTube went down on us, but Rumble's fine.
josie glabach
The stream, I was just going to say the stream went down.
unidentified
Yeah.
josie glabach
It looks like it's back up now, but when we were talking about the CIA, the stream went down.
unidentified
Whoa.
I am so tired.
josie glabach
Fourth branch of government.
lisa reynolds
Unbelievable.
tim pool
Bro, guys, for everybody listening, we didn't go down on Rumble.
Rumble's been up just fine.
unidentified
Of course.
carter banks
I mean, it still looks like we're good.
josie glabach
Oh, the chat was still up and there was just straight Fs.
unidentified
Yeah.
josie glabach
Just Fs in the chat.
unidentified
Is that what they're doing?
Really?
tim pool
And on our end, our stream, everything's good.
Yo, someone at YouTube just hard stopped the show.
unidentified
Maybe.
ian crossland
Potentially.
tim pool
There's no other explanation.
carter banks
We've been streaming.
tim pool
Our stream health is perfect.
Our dropped frames is zero, and we're live on Rumble and X.
The only show that dropped was YouTube.
So, when you say potentially, did YouTube go down?
Did YouTube have an error that happened just as we were talking about the CIA taking boxes?
josie glabach
When that froze, we dropped from 20,000 live viewers to 12, and now we're back up to 14.
unidentified
16.
No.
Wow.
ian crossland
I see 17.
daniel turner
So do it again.
Let's break the story again.
tim pool
I remember when we were talking about Eric, this happened when we used to talk about Eric Charmella.
They would delete the show, they would just ban you, they'd shut everything down.
Oh, yeah.
Now he's been criminally referred, hasn't he?
ian crossland
I see that YouTube is experiencing a partial outage.
I don't know how frequently that happens if you go to like a YouTube down detector.
This is through NordVPN.
I don't know if it's true or not.
daniel turner
But going back to those.
unidentified
Yeah.
Does it.
tim pool
A criminal referral from ODNI to Eric Charamella.
daniel turner
Going back to those COVID days, though, when we would do the show, I mean, we had to be really careful what we said about.
carter banks
It was like walking on a.
daniel turner
Exactly.
Because you couldn't say like it.
You just had.
It was bizarre.
unidentified
Yeah.
josie glabach
You had to like almost speak another language.
unidentified
Yeah.
josie glabach
You still kind of do.
unidentified
Yeah.
lisa reynolds
I was designated a hate agent on Facebook for posting about.
Picture with Tommy Robinson and they banned my account forever indefinitely.
And I literally was told by a government affairs person from Facebook that I was a hate agent.
You need to add that labeled as a hate agent.
And I still don't have that account back.
daniel turner
Call it a hate agent.
josie glabach
Add that to your ex bio.
unidentified
Yeah.
lisa reynolds
A hate agent.
ian crossland
Where is he lobbying?
tim pool
Some people are commenting saying that they're watching other YouTube streams that didn't cut out.
ian crossland
This is my concern about that.
When I keep talking about technocracy, I like doing this.
I like talking and saying what I believe.
And for them to just be able to click a button and knock you down on the internet, it just.
I don't think you have a right to it, but maybe you should.
lisa reynolds
It's exhausting, honestly.
tim pool
And I'm going to stress, too, this is why they went after, they attacked Rumble.
They launched an SEC investigation.
They smeared Rumble.
When YouTube was censoring everybody and shutting them down, these people went to Rumble.
So, Charlie Kirk, Dan Bongino, they go to Rumble.
They say, We need to start this company.
We need a way to get the message out in the space.
YouTube's shutting us down.
Immediately, what happens is, Democrat aligned individuals are claiming that Rumble's views are all fake, which makes no sense considering you've got a million subscribers on YouTube.
You go to Rumble.
If they want to watch your show, they're going to migrate over.
Maybe you'll lose 20 or 30%.
And these shows were doing well.
So then they start running this smear campaign claiming Rumble is fake.
Rumble then gets investigated by Biden's SEC for fraud because they're a public traded company, ultimately, clear them of any wrongdoing because their analytics are the same as YouTube's.
I think the deep state's losing.
This is not the first time this has happened.
We've talked about CAOps before, and the shows dropped.
But back then, we were only on YouTube.
And we were like, well, that was weird, I guess.
Now, Uh oh, we're live on X and Rumble, and YouTube drops our stream on our end.
I got a monitor right here showing our bitrate, showing our dropped frames.
Zero problems.
ian crossland
Only a data center, don't forget about that.
tim pool
We don't need the sound of data centers.
Wow.
I'm going to go ahead and say, I do not believe for a second that was an accident or an error on YouTube.
I think that was intentional.
I think someone said, hit the mute button because they've done this to us before.
On January 6th in 2021, they shut our chat room down, the live chat was just disabled instantly.
unidentified
Alpha.
tim pool
So they're watching.
ian crossland
Powerful Corp. Alpha.
lisa reynolds
I had a great party at my house January 5th, the night before.
tim pool
They told us afterwards that we had to get a chat moderator.
Otherwise, they wouldn't let us do chat live anymore.
unidentified
Really?
Yeah.
tim pool
They deleted our episode with Joe Rogan, Alex Jones, Blair White.
lisa reynolds
I remember that.
unidentified
I remember that.
lisa reynolds
The one where you guys were the first.
tim pool
Years later, actually.
Yep.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
In the RV.
They deleted it like three years after it aired.
And then recently, we got it reinstated because, you know, what happened was I kept filing for appeal and they kept rejecting it.
So finally, I said live on this show.
I am going to re upload that episode in full right now.
And I was like, tomorrow it's going up.
We're just putting it back up.
They could take it down again.
And then instantly I said, Your appeal has been granted.
They brought it back.
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
I think wild.
Corporate governance.
Corporate governance.
Whether we want to believe it's real or not, it's de facto happening.
I mean, internet's not telephone.
Your telephones are bugged.
You used to have the right to call anybody you want and say whatever you want, and phone taps were illegal, but that's all out the window now.
We need a real corporate governance.
Like we have an opportunity.
Like Rumble has a great ethos.
I don't think they have like an embedded constitution that I know of.
Maybe it's U.S. law, but we need a corporate governance that works because we are going corporatocracy, whether you like it or not.
We're not going communism.
Corporations are going to be running this show.
Right now, literally, corporations are running this show on their platforms.
So we can build out, like with the Manila principles, with rights to your freedom of access to software code and access to artificial intelligence, personal artificial intelligence.
We can build out a digital constitution that can roll us through these corporate schemes, schematics.
I mean, this is the inevitable future, in my opinion.
josie glabach
Thomas Massey has a digital constitution that he put together.
I talked about it when I interviewed him, I think six years ago.
So.
That exists.
ian crossland
Yeah, the Manila Principles was one in 2014 that they got started.
We could pull it up and read about it.
unidentified
But I.
ian crossland
Oh, man.
The centralization of power.
Like we need mesh networks.
unidentified
Yeah.
daniel turner
And we saw a little bit of this weaponized during COVID and after January 6th, especially when you start adding debanking, deplatforming, just how quickly it moves, right?
How you can erase someone's ability to function because all of this is online, it is corporate.
You can't go to the ATM and pull out $5.
So you can't buy anything.
So you're.
You're in the hands of the corporations that run these businesses.
ian crossland
You see, the King of England, uh, he said he's directed his ministers to initiate a digital ID ID.
That's crazy stuff with his crown and his jeweled robe.
josie glabach
And he's like, That like made me irrationally violent as a revolutionary historian.
ian crossland
It was like Palpatine, like it was crazy.
And I don't hate the guy, but that was like full on.
josie glabach
It was King George, yeah.
daniel turner
It was, I was absolutely King George, yeah.
And digital ID is some scary, scary stuff.
ian crossland
And the Trump's administration goes to China with the AI, all that had a G force was a.
Uh, Hong, what's that guy's name?
Sorry, dude.
lisa reynolds
I gotta, you guys saw that they're banning people, right?
Like, they're banning um, they banned two members of the or the European Parliament and they banned um, like three or four creators from America from for going to like for like they denied their visas or revoked their visas from getting into England to go to Tommy Singh this weekend.
ian crossland
Did you see Marco Rubio was hat was banned to go and going to China?
So the Chinese changed his Chinese name so that he could enter the country.
It's the peace.
It's the olive branch.
daniel turner
I guess if you're going as Secretary of State, you wouldn't be nervous, but I wouldn't go to China.
And when I have to go to visit family in Australia, I'm always petrified that we're going to somehow have like a plane thing and get rerouted to Hong Kong.
I have no, I would never go to China.
And the amount of stuff we've done on China in the climate space, if we were ever rerouted to China, I'd have to tell the pilot, like, you have to lock me into the cockpit because I hate China with every fiber of my being.
So even if I were Secretary of State and they were like, well, delegation to China.
I couldn't run for office because of how much anti China stuff I have on my platform.
Horrifying country, vile, all communists, right?
But kudos to them for going.
I would never step foot in that country, ever, ever, ever, ever.
ian crossland
It's like a vanguard.
They say communist because that's the trick, but it's really a vanguardist, like a council of what, 30 people that run that entire country.
It's not communist is when the people own everything together.
These collective Chinese are being smashed into paste by their demagogue leaders or the people that think they're their leaders.
Hey, I love Chinese culture and history, but sure.
josie glabach
That doesn't really exist anymore into this.
daniel turner
It doesn't, no.
And the food.
unidentified
Yep.
daniel turner
Love a good dump.
lisa reynolds
We shouldn't have any more people from China coming in here either.
Nobody.
I want nobody else coming in here.
daniel turner
300,000 students a year come on VC.
lisa reynolds
No call out.
Stop them.
tim pool
We're going to go to the Rumble Rants and Super Chat.
So smash the like button.
Share the show with everyone you know.
Subscribe if you haven't already.
That uncensored portion of the show is coming up in 15 or so minutes.
You don't want to miss it.
But let's see what y'all have to say about all these goings on.
unidentified
Let's see.
tim pool
Let's see what we got going on.
Looks like we.
I got to figure out how to pull up the rumble rants because we only have a couple right now.
Salty Pepe says, What files exactly?
Yes, Ian, who authorized the raid?
All I know is death penalty, or this will only lead to our country burning down.
So, to clarify, this is not a raid.
They took back documents that were supposed to be released and then everything got all jumbled up.
lisa reynolds
It looks like without authorization, though.
ian crossland
Yeah, that's going to be the argument.
Did Trump give Tulsi the authority?
Authority over these documents, or does the CIA?
lisa reynolds
The CIA probably didn't know until the whistleblower that they were even taken back.
That's what appears.
And that would be.
tim pool
Well, we should be digging into this to figure out what just happened because we're only learning about it from whistleblower today.
Robert says finally able to rumble with Tim Cast and newborn baby number three.
Welcome, Isla, to the fight, Patriots.
unidentified
Let's go.
Good name.
Lovely.
Let's go.
All right.
tim pool
We need to, when you refresh Rumble, the rants disappear.
And so, with the hubbub over everything, we refreshed.
ian crossland
It'd be nice if the chat window popped out and started its own.
carter banks
I swear there's a way to have them all collect at the top.
tim pool
But when you refresh, they go away.
carter banks
Oh, man.
tim pool
Thinker for a Life says if this is not egg on a deep state face, I don't know what is.
ian crossland
It's tough because some of these chats probably came in when we were first breaking this and, like, they raid it.
Oh, my gosh, it's a raid.
tim pool
All right, let's see what else you guys got going on here.
We got more.
unidentified
We got more.
tim pool
Marushi says many claim aliens are demons.
Maybe it's the other way around that angels, demons, and gods of ancient religions were actually aliens with human zoos.
lisa reynolds
No.
tim pool
The actual widely believed theory is that Earth was terraformed by an advanced species and settlers got stranded on Earth.
And it's like District 9.
You ever see that movie?
So, a giant spaceship comes to Earth, terraform it, and then a bunch of just like worker bees come down to the Earth, and they're like mechanics and engineers and masons.
So, average working class people.
Then, when a fight breaks out in the heavens due to a conflict between like a mutiny and the ship leaves, these people are stranded and they're like, oh crap.
So, how do they convey general knowledge to people?
Terraformed Earth Theory 00:07:23
tim pool
Like, what could you actually tell your children if you were stranded on a desert island?
You know, with no communications forever, you'd explain to your kids, be like, Yeah, we used to fly around, you know, and we had these like ships and like fire would come out the back to lift it.
And in their mind, what are they imagining?
ian crossland
Dragons.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Chariots of fire, you know?
ian crossland
I thought maybe if there's an entity that's so large that it could treat the solar system like a particle collider and they smash two stars into each other to produce us, this solar, but that'd be a pretty intricate process if there was really some sort of sentient formation.
tim pool
Esteban says, if this chat is any sort of gauge, Massey is cooked.
Let's do it.
Let's do a poll.
Let's do a poll for all y'all.
lisa reynolds
I do not like him in the chat.
tim pool
Massey.
josie glabach
Oh, I know.
ian crossland
It's weird because they love Massey.
josie glabach
I know.
tim pool
No, Massey.
Elat hates him.
unidentified
I keep going.
lisa reynolds
Also, maybe we didn't talk about Chud the Builder.
We forgot that one.
tim pool
Oh, Chud the Builder.
unidentified
Chat.
tim pool
Well, we'll talk about Chud the Builder in the uncensored portion because then we can be naughty.
lisa reynolds
That's a good plan.
josie glabach
Oh, that's a really good plan.
tim pool
No, Massey is currently winning with 53% of the vote.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
Let it simmer.
tim pool
So it's just rocking at about 51.
Oh, yes, Massey is starting to take it.
unidentified
All right.
Yeah.
josie glabach
I guess these guys like kill switches and, you know, the glyphosate.
tim pool
I love glyphosate.
All I think about all day is just how can I have more glyphosate in my diet?
josie glabach
Exactly.
daniel turner
I saw someone on the shelf in the kitchen.
tim pool
That's right.
We spritz our salads with it.
You know, you want to make sure we buy organic, so we have to add the glyphosate afterwards.
unidentified
It's just a little crispy stuff.
ian crossland
Like, I disagree with Tom about stuff, but he's the best, by far, best congressperson.
tim pool
Oh, it's 50 50.
ian crossland
I don't understand.
tim pool
I'm not kidding.
It's 50 50.
lisa reynolds
What I like about Massey is that he is himself and he does everything himself.
Like, nobody, I used to, you know, guys know, I used to do comms on the hill and nobody is allowed to touch his Twitter.
Like, nobody's tweeting for him.
He's doing it all completely himself.
And I do know, though, for a long time, lots of members of Congress.
I remember one congressman saying to me, I said at the time I liked Massey, this was like years ago, and he was like, We all hate him.
He's the type of guy you want to stuff into a locker when you're in high school.
Like, that's what they said.
And maybe because he's like a contrarian a little bit, but like people have warmed to him.
But he's never been like a GOP favorite.
If anything, they've always really not loved Massey.
josie glabach
He's not trying to bend the rules or find a loophole.
He's like, No, the Constitution is my guidance.
And that's what he does.
tim pool
So we've got this from the Spence Fencer.
Temples and shrines in Japan are burning weekly.
The Green Star invasion of Japan has begun.
Japan has mass immigration problems, also.
Let's look there.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
Green Star.
What's the Green Star?
unidentified
I don't know.
Look it up.
tim pool
Rocky Eagle says, What's your opinion of the quartering drama?
And can Tim or Brett appear on Friday Night Tights?
I don't know anything about it.
lisa reynolds
What's Friday Night Tights?
tim pool
A show, but I don't know anything about the quartering drama.
I will just put it like this.
I. You know, Lisa here worked on the Hill for a decade plus.
And so she's talking about the goings on of the movers and the shakers who control politics.
You know, Daniel here is an energy consultant and discusses the lies of climate change, national and international level conflicts.
Josie's talking about a member of Congress who's in a deep battle with a Trump supporter, a majorly Trump supported guy in the polling there.
All of these are going to have deep, deep impacts on the structure of our world, our governance.
And with that being said, I wish you guys all the best on sorting through the drama with the quartering.
And I don't mean to be derisive.
It's just that my point is whatever Jeremy is doing or isn't doing has little effect on whether or not there's going to be a new member of Congress, a Democrat, Republican House, whether or not we're going to get national level bans on fossil fuels.
So I don't really have much to say about it.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't look up the news on.
lisa reynolds
I didn't even know he was going.
josie glabach
It's just gossip.
And we just don't.
lisa reynolds
I like Jeremy, but Jeremy likes gossip and Jeremy likes Trump.
josie glabach
I don't have the privilege to gossip right now.
There's too much going on.
lisa reynolds
I'm tired of gossip.
tim pool
People are allowed to care about what they care about.
Because this has to do with the little that I know is something about like he reported somebody, I think, or something.
unidentified
I don't know.
lisa reynolds
I don't know.
I'm just so tired of like the infighting, the drama, the gossip, the sex scandals, the this scandal, the that scandal.
It's really like exhausting.
It's actually, which is probably good.
It's making me want to stay away from politics in general.
Like, I don't want to be the 19th person myself, but like Marjorie Taylor Greene, Benny stuff.
It's like annoying.
It's freaking annoying.
Can we just try to fight the real enemy, which is Islamists and the left?
tim pool
But it's so easy to say the problem is.
lisa reynolds
And anybody in a sand country, and that includes Israel, like, I'm tired of all that.
I'm serious.
Any sand countries, I don't care what happens over there.
josie glabach
Hobby Dobby is a little developed.
ian crossland
Extracting interest off of our debt, that's a big problem.
That's the enemy we should be eradicating interest.
tim pool
Massey is now winning by two points.
ian crossland
And if you want to check out Friday Night Tights, it's Gary Buechler.
Gary, pretty cool show.
They're fun guys.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Josiah says sorry, but Massey was one of the biggest black pillars in an existential election.
He helped in framing Trump as the Epstein class and the new swamp.
I think as a grandstander, he is the example of the right going after the right.
josie glabach
He hit four talking points.
Congratulations.
lisa reynolds
Well, that guy's got some points.
I mean, listen, I can see both sides.
Like, I can see why people would like Massey for principled reasons.
I like Massey as a person.
He's always been very good to me, very good to us, very good to the show.
I like a lot of things he stands for.
I also see, you know, like, I see other people's points.
Like, sometimes we need to use force and we need to show that we're the boss and we want to be the leaders of the world.
So, let's do it.
I just think that, like, criticizing people and losing seats, I think that's all unproductive.
That is the real problem.
Like, I see this, it is more just infighting.
Like, I don't like this guy because I'm a Trump loyalist and he went against the grain or whatever the issue is.
Like, people, he's been great on a ton of issues and he's been sucky on some, but that's almost every single member of Congress.
So we're just going to, like, throw the baby out with the bathwater and get rid of, like, a seat that we need.
That's stupid to me.
josie glabach
You don't even know Ed's.
Positions, you just know he's going to rubber stamp anything that Trump says, he won't debate.
We have no idea what we have no idea.
lisa reynolds
I mean, I don't care if he rubber stamps all Trump's positions, too.
Like, that's fine, but like, my concern is there's going to be stuff he does that you don't like either down the road.
That's the problem.
tim pool
How do we give money to Israel unless we bring in you need to stop giving money to everybody, including Israel?
lisa reynolds
That's got it.
That's got it.
josie glabach
All 480, immediately, all of it.
lisa reynolds
Bye.
tim pool
But who's going to blow up brown kids in sand countries unless we get rid of people like Thomas Massey?
I wonder if we'll get in trouble.
josie glabach
Fractional Reserve Banking.
lisa reynolds
That's something I would say that you would normally yell at me for.
tim pool
I said, oh, no, sand country is not that bad.
You're not insulting a people.
ian crossland
I said, I wanted to get the sand back into the ocean.
lisa reynolds
I said, I wanted to delete the sand countries.
tim pool
Get rid of them?
You said you want to get rid of them.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, that's a vague statement.
I'm saying, like, calling a country a sand country is not targeting a people.
It's pointing out that they're desert nations.
Camels and Sand Countries 00:03:07
tim pool
We looked this up.
Did you know that there's like, I didn't even know this.
I'm going to pull this up.
ian crossland
While you're doing that, I'll point out that we're going to build autonomous drones that will take the sand back and put it in the ocean where it came from.
tim pool
Nah, just bump it out of the mud.
ian crossland
Yeah, so we were.
tim pool
I was just bored.
ian crossland
Look at all that.
tim pool
And I was like, who lives in the Sahara Desert?
And, like, no joke.
There's 150,000 people living right here in Tamanroset.
Look at this.
unidentified
This is wild.
tim pool
Look at this.
We zoom out.
Look where they are.
unidentified
Look where those people are.
tim pool
What are you doing in there, huh?
What are you doing in the middle of the Sahara like that, huh?
josie glabach
Why don't they move closer to water?
lisa reynolds
They're trying to make their IQ reach 65.
tim pool
What was the comedian who was like, stop living where you can't grow food?
You're in a country full of sand.
Food can't grow here.
daniel turner
What the hell is his name?
unidentified
I know.
josie glabach
Everyone was hilarious.
daniel turner
No, it's been cold.
Oh, gosh.
He's been dead.
josie glabach
He's dead now, yeah.
daniel turner
Sam Kinnison.
tim pool
Is that who that was?
daniel turner
Sam Kinnison, yeah.
I remember I was.
tim pool
You live where there's sand, you can't grow food.
daniel turner
I was in a helicopter convoy going from Baghdad to Basra, which was like three hours, and I fell asleep because it was 900 degrees, and I woke up at one point, and you're still in the sand, and I looked down, and there was a guy walking, and he had three camels.
And I remember, and we're not very high off the ground, and I remember staring at him thinking, where the hell did you come from?
tim pool
Bro, camels are huge.
daniel turner
And where are you going?
Like, it was just amazing.
So, yeah, there are 150,000 people living there.
That's just as people do.
Have you guys ever seen a camel?
carter banks
No.
lisa reynolds
Camels are cool.
You should see them right on the hut.
tim pool
Yeah, they're six to seven feet at the hump.
No joke.
When I was in Morocco, they're doing camel rides, and I was like.
lisa reynolds
You didn't ride them in the zoo when you were little?
carter banks
I have seen the ones with two humps.
unidentified
I have.
Yeah, two humps.
carter banks
I rode one with two humps in a zoo once.
tim pool
Yeah, I think two humps is two humps too many, but that's just me.
lisa reynolds
Two humps, yeah, you sit in a.
tim pool
I like horses.
ian crossland
Horses are fat.
tim pool
They're big fat.
lisa reynolds
You should see, there's a lady who has a camel and she runs around with her horses, and the camel's really goofy and fun.
daniel turner
My lovely lady.
I'm sorry, it's another song, a different song.
lisa reynolds
I like how.
Maybe not camel.
carter banks
I could be wrong.
tim pool
80 pounds of fat in their humps.
That's crazy.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
Oh, I heard they had water, but it's just moisture then in the fat, probably.
That's how they get.
tim pool
Camels don't need to drink water for a week.
And when they do, they consume 40 gallons in one sitting.
ian crossland
Dudes used to ride those things into battle.
I don't know if they still do.
unidentified
Is that true?
ian crossland
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
Awesome.
ian crossland
Camel archers and stuff.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Let's grab some more of these and see what's going on.
unidentified
Let's see.
tim pool
Luis Rodriguez says Ian, sometimes the ants take over, Tim, and I, for one, welcome our new insect overlords.
That's a Simpsons reference.
I absolutely would say something like that.
lisa reynolds
That sounds wrong.
tim pool
Kent Brockman said that.
When they thought the, what was it, like an ant crawled on the camera lens or something?
So they thought ants were taking over?
lisa reynolds
That's funny.
Somebody said it's hump day.
It is hump day.
unidentified
It is.
Yeah.
lisa reynolds
Talking about camels on hump day.
ian crossland
Happy hump day.
lisa reynolds
Happy hump day.
tim pool
Mauricio says, We are building the matrix.
unidentified
I know.
Correct.
Yeah.
ian crossland
But we kind of can choose how we build it still.
And then it's going to automate and keep, yeah.
We're setting the algorithm right now of how it's going to build itself.
lisa reynolds
We can.
ian crossland
Well, our words are, like you mentioned earlier, we're changing the way that the AI processes by speaking.
unidentified
Yeah.
True.
tim pool
Let's see what we got here.
unidentified
I'm over it.
Building the Matrix Together 00:05:46
tim pool
Peace and Silence says no, Massey.
He wants to do away with AM radio in cars.
Is that true?
lisa reynolds
Yeah, I don't like that.
unidentified
Why?
lisa reynolds
I like AM radio.
josie glabach
I haven't heard the AM radio stance, but I wasn't paid cow money to talk about that.
tim pool
Chi Enforcer says Massey doesn't get my vote or support because he would choose to let Iran do what they want with the straight and would probably pay them off, which is soft and weak, rather than kick their ass.
lisa reynolds
I don't think he would pay them off either, but I see what they're saying there.
unidentified
That's.
tim pool
Yeah, Massey would never vote to give him money.
unidentified
No.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, he would never.
He would do the rest, but not ever vote to give him money.
daniel turner
I couldn't imagine him supporting a bill to ban AM radio either, which is, I don't understand.
I'd love to know what that comes from.
Yeah.
unidentified
Right?
daniel turner
Like, just.
josie glabach
It's just like one of the things about him having a podcast.
It's just kind of made up.
tim pool
Yeah, people are making jokes.
carter banks
Yeah, that's a really weird thing to do.
Yeah, that's where it comes from.
tim pool
All right.
Nick Bumar said, You said we're dealing with people of sub 70 IQ.
That's history.
Salem witch trials, civil war, and rights racists, modern leftists, all the same.
It's our duty to ensure humanity's future.
As our founding fathers did, thoughts.
lisa reynolds
Well, they shouldn't get a right to vote, though, those people.
daniel turner
That guy makes a brilliant point.
There are.
tim pool
No, I think the easiest way to solve for that, we don't need literacy tests.
You just write and only.
If you don't write in the name legibly and correctly spelled, your vote doesn't count.
Or more importantly, if like Barack Obama is running and you write Barack Obama, great, he gets a vote.
But then if you write Brock Obama, Brock Obama gets a vote.
Don't know who Brock Obama is, but he's got one vote.
I think that's the way we should do it.
ian crossland
Then they'd have to type their names in.
tim pool
Nope.
ian crossland
Handwriting.
josie glabach
Handwriting.
tim pool
Too bad.
ian crossland
Sometimes you can't read it, but it's not your fault.
tim pool
That's why I said legibly.
ian crossland
Or rather, if I can't read your handwriting, it might be your fault, not mine.
Or it might be my fault.
tim pool
I can choose to write very slowly and very legibly.
josie glabach
You need to write it in Constitution script in order for it to be Constitutionally compatible.
daniel turner
I'm here for that.
unidentified
With ink.
Yes.
ian crossland
What about VoiceText?
Exactly.
You can just say the name of the person.
josie glabach
We're taking it all the way to the front.
lisa reynolds
No, because VoiceText hates my Philly accent and gets everything wrong.
tim pool
We're trying to create barriers that stop stupid people from voting.
And so it's fair to say we don't really have a good means of testing for literacy in this because some people are going to say that's not fair.
If you can articulate the individual in writing, legibly, who you want, your vote is good.
unidentified
That's it.
ian crossland
Is it the stupid or the ignorant that you want to know?
unidentified
Stupid.
Stupid.
daniel turner
Ignorance can be fixed.
Ignorance just means without knowledge.
You can teach the ignorant, but.
lisa reynolds
No, they shouldn't vote either until they get knowledge.
daniel turner
Well, you have to get some, right?
And that's the problem is how do you force people to acquire it?
Because there are people who want to be willfully ignorant.
And that's what every time you testify before Congress, every time you know, you deliberately want to not know these things.
You are foregoing the opportunity to.
I'm here as your star witness to talk about it, but you don't want to know because then you have to change your opinion.
unidentified
So.
tim pool
We're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show.
We'll talk about Chug the Builder and how he got attacked for accusing a guy of chimping out.
And then he got punched and then he shot the guy.
It's a pretty crazy story.
We will talk about that at rumble.com slash timcastirl.
So smash that like button.
Share the show with everyone you know.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at timcast.
Daniel, do you want to shout anything out before you run away?
daniel turner
I was just going to go.
Sorry.
Daniel Turner, Power of the Future, power of thefuture.com, and your favorite sheep farmer, Bristol Farm, Virginia.
If you like sheep and service dogs, Bristol Farm, Virginia on Instagram, come follow us.
We're a great farm.
unidentified
Right on.
lisa reynolds
I'm coming to visit.
unidentified
Yeah.
I like that.
I got anything out?
lisa reynolds
No, hi.
Hi, guys.
Nice to see everybody.
Thanks for having me.
You guys are the best, best chat in the world.
ian crossland
Lisa Reynolds, ladies and gentlemen.
One of the best.
lisa reynolds
How do they fight with anybody today?
unidentified
Where are you?
ian crossland
Where do they follow you?
lisa reynolds
Oh, at Lisa Elizabeth on Twitter.
But I really haven't been tweeting much at all.
Like, I don't think I've done an original tweet in weeks.
unidentified
Really?
Yeah.
josie glabach
I'm Josie.
I'm the Redheaded Libertarian.
You can find me on X T R H L official and across all streams and platforms.
And you should definitely look into Cass Brew Coffee.
I do make a fantastic coffee over there.
unidentified
Let's go.
ian crossland
Hit me up at Ian Crossland on the internet.
Seize the day.
Take advantage of it now.
It might seem like tomorrow's inevitable, but nothing's inevitable.
So change it.
Make it the best for yourself and your community.
unidentified
Do it.
Go.
carter banks
And as you said, we are training the machines right now for whatever the AI future holds.
So, yes, seize the day.
And you can follow me at Carter Banks everywhere and follow our record label at Trash House Records on YouTube.
tim pool
We'll see you all at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL in about 10 seconds.
Thanks for hanging out.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, that is great.
tim pool
Chud the Builder.
So, I don't know if you guys know who he is.
He makes these videos where you walk.
Should I just pull him up?
lisa reynolds
Yeah.
Because it's like uncensored, right?
tim pool
Is he on YouTube or X?
carter banks
He's on X. X is probably.
lisa reynolds
I would say he's on Instagram.
carter banks
If you fall down the video wormhole on X, he'll eventually come up.
tim pool
Chud the Builder.
unidentified
Yeah.
lisa reynolds
I've definitely seen him on Instagram.
josie glabach
I found him.
lisa reynolds
This was inevitable.
unidentified
Chud.
lisa reynolds
Like people were predicting this like four days ago, you know?
carter banks
Yeah, I.
Chud the Builder Videos 00:14:33
carter banks
I can't believe he lasted as long as he did.
tim pool
He shot it.
lisa reynolds
But also, like, you're gonna, he's gonna be like, don't chimp out.
And then you chimp out.
@chudthebuilder
Are you on some shreddings or something?
I already told you I'm on your mama's sweetheart.
Okay, here.
You're a bitch.
unidentified
I see him.
@chudthebuilder
Literally, all you do is talk about your dick.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
I'm a nigger.
@chudthebuilder
Come back over here.
Come back over here.
unidentified
Let's not fight.
Let's not fight.
@chudthebuilder
Touch me again.
unidentified
Is this the one?
@chudthebuilder
Touch me again.
carter banks
I don't want to be masers.
unidentified
I really don't.
@chudthebuilder
Go pick up my hat, nigger.
You heard me, nigger.
unidentified
Fuck your shit.
@chudthebuilder
Oh my god, dude.
unidentified
Touch me again.
@chudthebuilder
Touch me again, nigger.
That's what I thought.
Thank you.
unidentified
Don't hit me with that shit.
@chudthebuilder
I ain't gonna pray you.
That motherfucker wants to put his hands on me again.
Go home with you.
Let's go get his ass.
Hail Hitler, nigga.
unidentified
Oh my fucking god, dude.
@chudthebuilder
Hey, thanks for picking up my hat.
unidentified
Look at this.
Get her.
Get her.
tim pool
This shit don't work anymore.
It doesn't fucking matter.
He does not give a shit.
He's got fucking.
unidentified
He's armed.
carter banks
This is kind of what happened.
unidentified
Hyper women.
tim pool
These people don't get it.
This dude does not, he does not give a shit.
lisa reynolds
I don't care either.
I wouldn't talk like that because I think it's like crass and like rude.
But like, but if I heard people talking like that, I would think it's funny.
And I would also not.
unidentified
All I'm saying, bro, you don't think the stuff you do is cowardice, bro.
No.
Okay.
I think it's childish.
@chudthebuilder
That's why I'm standing there 10 toes down in front of yours.
And I'm not shaking my head.
unidentified
Me neither.
I'm like the carrier.
You are too.
It's not a difference.
So you can go both ways.
@chudthebuilder
I'm only here reporting the nigga who smacked my phone.
unidentified
That's fine, but you got to understand some people don't get offended by it.
I hate with country white boys.
@chudthebuilder
I don't want you to be offended.
unidentified
I hate with country white boys like you, and they'd be so.
All I'm saying, bro, you.
tim pool
It's just all it is.
lisa reynolds
I got ripped on for being white a lot in Philadelphia.
unidentified
Like, a lot, a lot.
lisa reynolds
And so I'm like, you know, it's okay to do it to us, but like, you know, we can't say anything to them.
I've been called a cracker.
josie glabach
I've been like, it's because they changed the definition of racism back in the Obama era early on.
They had a little girl.
Right, little girl writes to the dictionary and says, I think that it should be systemic.
And they're like, you know what, little girl, we agree with you.
And they added the definition.
So now white people can't.
unidentified
Well, they're saying, I don't give a fuck what they're saying.
It's all recorded.
lisa reynolds
My kids are playing in a.
And I have a real problem with that.
tim pool
Without being shipped out on.
lisa reynolds
Of course.
But if, like, I really, you can't do that with kids.
Like, I went out there.
Like, I did not like that.
You cannot talk to kids and.
Whatever, and that's only perpetuating a cycle of miserableness.
unidentified
That's why I thought, nigger.
@chudthebuilder
I'm not a dumbass.
lisa reynolds
This, I don't think, is helpful.
@chudthebuilder
He's chipping out.
unidentified
But I do think you should be able to do this.
@chudthebuilder
He's chipping out.
carter banks
He's rage baiting people in real life.
@chudthebuilder
Yeah, but like, it's a constitutional right to record.
lisa reynolds
It's like, hey, cracker.
Hey, cracker.
@chudthebuilder
I don't need to ask you if I can exercise my freedom.
carter banks
People aren't used to seeing this, though.
That's why he gets it.
@chudthebuilder
Y'all got to learn the law.
Y'all got to learn the law.
Don't walk up on me.
Stay right there.
What's going to happen?
unidentified
What's going to happen?
Keep coming up.
@chudthebuilder
We're going to push and walk anywhere in public.
I'm going to mash your ass real quick.
unidentified
Mason?
@chudthebuilder
Oh, is that all?
So you're one of those guys?
I'm spraying shit at you, yeah.
I would rather you punch me around.
Just learn how to act, bro.
unidentified
Learn how to act.
@chudthebuilder
Learn how to ask.
Learn how to ask.
Why are you acting like a nigga right now?
You're acting like a what?
You heard me.
unidentified
Sit down.
Come on.
@chudthebuilder
Look at him.
unidentified
Y'all need to learn how to act.
@chudthebuilder
We can record all we want around here.
Come on.
carter banks
I think he shot me.
Somebody and himself accidentally.
tim pool
Yeah, so what happened was.
unidentified
Here he is.
tim pool
Apparently not, but I think I've got the.
This is apparently like he was streaming.
Here's what's said.
@chudthebuilder
I walked up to him because they were pointing at me.
They were laughing.
They were pointing at me, and I said, What's up, guys?
How y'all doing?
I said, Y'all like the new suit?
He said, Walk away from me.
I walked away from him.
He came back up to me.
He literally said, I have PTSD.
I feel like I'm in.
He said, You start saying all that chimp out shit to me.
I'm going to hit you.
He hit me.
He started wailing on me.
Even after I had to defend myself by shooting him, he was still wailing on me.
unidentified
Where's your weapon at?
They have everything.
What weapon is that right there?
tim pool
I believe that's it.
This dude's going to prison.
Yeah.
I don't think so.
unidentified
He's going to prison.
tim pool
He should go to prison.
They're going to argue that you can't go up to somebody and start antagonizing them.
lisa reynolds
He said they went up to him.
Well, he does do that, but he said that he walked away from him.
tim pool
I watched his videos.
He walks up to them.
ian crossland
And he didn't just say, hey, chimp out.
He said a lot of other stuff.
tim pool
That he walked up to those black guys sitting at a bench drinking.
lisa reynolds
That was at the same time.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
I am saying this guy does this all the time.
lisa reynolds
Yes, I see that.
tim pool
So when he tells them they came up to me, everyone's going to say, nope.
He's going to go to a jury trial.
And it's not going to matter.
They're going to say, what about before the video?
Prosecution's going to be like, we don't know what he filmed before that.
lisa reynolds
Well, you can't do fighting work.
tim pool
It doesn't matter, though.
It is not self defense to antagonize someone and then when they attack you.
lisa reynolds
No, no, no, no.
They can attack you back with words.
They cannot attack you back with your fist.
And once they touch you with your fist, you can shoot them.
tim pool
Nope.
You are incorrect.
lisa reynolds
Well, then that's F.
ian crossland
I guess it depends on where you are, maybe.
tim pool
If you instigate a fight by calling someone a bitch or a variety of other slurs and they attack you, you can't shoot them.
lisa reynolds
That cannot be true.
unidentified
Yes.
I don't know.
ian crossland
Because some people are like, you can't be funny and they attack.
tim pool
So that's different.
Looking at someone funny is different from walking up and saying they're chimping out.
lisa reynolds
So you mean if somebody comes up to me and calls me a C word, which I don't mind at all, right?
Like, who cares, right?
But say they said that, right?
And then I decide, because I'm a crazy leftist lunatic, I care about that.
And then I punch them.
unidentified
Yes.
lisa reynolds
They can't shoot me or punch me back?
tim pool
So, first, the law is.
lisa reynolds
I'm way bigger than everybody else.
tim pool
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Okay.
So, the law is basically what the jury is going to say.
However, in law, in self defense, if you instigate a fight, you cannot respond to the fight with lethal force.
However, the question then will become what is instigation?
The first and most important thing is this guy is not going to win in any jurisdiction.
Even in deep red West Virginia, the prosecutor is going to be like, fuck that.
I'm not going to be the guy who gets the dude off who goes with the black people calling him niggers and then defends him when a guy attacks him for it.
And then he shoots him.
lisa reynolds
Okay, so let's turn the tables around.
Somebody is literally going around calling somebody a cracker, a cracker, a cracker.
The cracker, you know, hits the black guy, then the black guy shoots him.
unidentified
That.
lisa reynolds
The black guy's going like, well.
tim pool
He's going to jail.
unidentified
Get off.
tim pool
Well, it just depends on the jurisdiction.
ian crossland
This is in Tennessee, by the way.
tim pool
Clark's in Tennessee.
In self defense law, you cannot instigate a fight and then claim self defense.
lisa reynolds
I think instigate a fight by pushing, touching, shoving, spitting, that type of thing.
benny johnson
Again, not in law.
tim pool
Be interpretable by the judge, the prosecutor, the defense, and the jury.
However, most reasonable people, I would argue, would say if a white guy walks up to a black guy and says he's chimping and a nigger and he punches him, they're going to say he started a fight by intentionally trying to antagonize.
You don't think walking up to black guys and dropping and calling them niggers is antagonizing them?
ian crossland
Yeah, this says under Tennessee law, a person generally cannot claim self defense if they were the initial aggressor.
tim pool
But aggressor means you attacked them.
carter banks
Well, he was saying he was walking and then a group.
Pointed at him and antagonized him.
lisa reynolds
And they know him.
carter banks
If this is all true, like, I don't really believe what he's doing.
tim pool
Now, this could be, right, I don't believe him.
However, I do think he's well known enough that he might be walking down the street and some black dudes might come up to him and start instigating with him.
If they approach him and say, don't you be saying that chimp out shit, and he says, go fuck yourself, I can say whatever I want, then they attack him and he shoots him, self defense.
If he walks up to them and says, y'all be chimping out and they attack him, not self defense.
lisa reynolds
So, like, okay, this happened to me in England, not here in America, but say it happened here.
Walking down the street with my mom, coming from an event, people recognize us, they say, Hey, Nazis, and spit on us, right?
unidentified
That's an assault.
lisa reynolds
If I turn around and shot that person, you're saying that I'd be fine if it was here?
ian crossland
If someone spit on you?
lisa reynolds
No, they called me a Nazi, they spit on me.
Now, if I turned around and shot them.
tim pool
Spitting on someone is assault and battery.
lisa reynolds
But if I turned around and shot them, you're saying.
tim pool
That's not self defense.
They'll go to jail, yeah.
carter banks
Yeah, you'd have to believe that you're living in danger or your bodily harm.
lisa reynolds
So, yeah, but like.
Depending on who you are.
So then how would he get in trouble if he was the one that.
tim pool
Yeah, Tennessee specifically has provocation law.
Calling a guy a nigger is provocation.
lisa reynolds
That's ridiculous.
Calling anybody any name should not be provocation.
That's ridiculous.
tim pool
Yeah, Tennessee TCA 3911 661.
They do have stand your ground.
You have to believe that reasonable force is necessary to prevent imminent harm or death.
For use of deadly force, imminent danger of death or serious bodily injury, there's an exception called provocation.
You cannot claim self defense if you provoke the other person to use force, including with words or conduct.
ian crossland
I think he wanted to shoot someone.
tim pool
Unless you abandon the encounter by trying to leave.
ian crossland
He told that guy he was going to mace him.
The guy didn't.
tim pool
He carries around pepper spray and a gun while calling black people niggers.
lisa reynolds
Because he knows that something's going to happen, I guess.
tim pool
So again, in Tennessee.
lisa reynolds
We all have been saying it's inevitable that this was going to happen.
carter banks
Right, yeah.
lisa reynolds
We thought he would get killed.
carter banks
I'm trying to steel man this one situation, but I don't believe what he's saying.
lisa reynolds
I think you could steel man it if what he's saying is true.
Like he was walking away and all those things.
But usually, what I'm thinking, the thing that I'm suspicious to me here is that his team is usually the one with the cameras.
And if he didn't do anything wrong, then they probably would have put the video out by now, right?
carter banks
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, for sure.
lisa reynolds
Like that.
And we don't see the video of the actual interaction.
So that's what makes me feel like he.
tim pool
What's going to happen is when he goes to court for this, and he will, the prosecution is going to say, here's his body of work.
And he's going to get convicted.
People are just retarded.
So in legal jurisprudence, Calling a black man a nigger is almost always viewed as a provocation.
lisa reynolds
Why though?
That's what's annoying to me.
Not that I think that they are or whatever.
tim pool
Because you understand you're trying to antagonize someone into violence.
lisa reynolds
No, you know, that's not true.
Like, here's the thing that I do, right?
When I get in a fight with somebody, I look them up and down, right?
And I think, what is the meanest thing that I can say to you that would kill you and hurt your feelings?
That's my brother.
He says, I always go for the jugular that way, right?
And so I wouldn't traditionally use.
That works just because I think it's crass and gross, right?
But if somebody was like bothering me and being really annoying, and I looked at them and I'm like, what would hurt this person the most when I said that word?
tim pool
Like, so let's clarify this.
If you're at a bar and you call someone a dumb cracker, white trash piece of shit, and she punches you in the face, so you shoot her, that's not self defense.
If a woman calls you a dumb, white trash piece of cracker shit, so you punch her and she shoots you, that's not self defense.
You cannot.
lisa reynolds
I'm not sure I'm laying my hands on anybody.
tim pool
It's not self defense if you instigate a fight.
lisa reynolds
But she didn't instigate it.
I swung on her because she called me stupid words that mean nothing.
tim pool
I agree with this law.
lisa reynolds
I don't.
tim pool
Like, you going up to someone and antagonizing them intentionally, knowing that it could lead to violence, you've created the circumstance.
unidentified
Yeah.
lisa reynolds
I think you can say whatever you want to somebody, like sticks and stones type things, but like, you can't, you can say whatever you want to anybody.
They should not be able to put their hands on you.
unidentified
No matter what.
carter banks
If you're excluding them, then it's your fault.
ian crossland
When they're like, what did you say?
And you're like, I didn't say anything.
And they're like, what?
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
What'd you say?
Say it again.
ian crossland
And you're like, I didn't say anything.
unidentified
Let's clarify this.
tim pool
Okay, guys, guys, we'll clarify this.
We're talking about proportionality.
If a black person calls you a dumb cracker bitch and you punch him, so he slaps you, then they're going to be, the cops are going to be like, well, Like, he called you a name and you slapped him.
We're not, like, this is not.
lisa reynolds
Okay, forget that part.
Say, so say somebody calls me a dumb cracker bitch, right?
And I just go up and punch them because they said that.
unidentified
Yeah.
lisa reynolds
I would get arrested for assault.
tim pool
Yes, you would.
unidentified
So then.
lisa reynolds
And if I assault somebody now that I'm not arrested for my assault?
tim pool
Let's try this again.
If you walk up to a black person and call them a, say they're going to chimp out and they punch you, they will get arrested.
unidentified
Correct.
tim pool
You reduce proportional use of force when you antagonize first.
If a black person comes to you and punches you in the face, you could shoot them, it's clean.
If you go up to the black person and insult them, so they then punch you and then you shoot them, it's not because you instigated the interaction.
lisa reynolds
Okay, but even if I instigate the interaction and then they assault me, but I don't shoot them, they should still get arrested for assault.
tim pool
And they will.
We're talking about proportionality.
Imagine being like, hey, Daniel, do you want to come to my house?
And then when he does it, you're trespassing, bang, and I shoot him.
lisa reynolds
That's not the same.
It's not the same.
tim pool
It's slightly different, but the point is you cannot create a circumstance in which.
lisa reynolds
If I could get arrested for punching them for assault, then they should be able to physically defend themselves.
Like, why does a circumstance change over who started it once?
tim pool
Because you created the confrontation.
lisa reynolds
But I created it the first time.
If I didn't shoot them, I created it the first time and they punched me.
carter banks
And then it escalated to bodily harm.
tim pool
Don't walk up to people and do things you know will result in fights and then shoot them.
That's the point.
It is not reasonable.
I don't think it's reasonable in any circumstance.
That somebody, like, if I walked up to Daniel and started insulting him, so he got mad, I created a conflict.
lisa reynolds
So, somebody, this old guy came up to me.
tim pool
You're not defending yourself when you start fights.
lisa reynolds
Some old guy came up to me today, like, was like breaking my balls about my height today, like, right before I came, like, as I was at the gas station, right?
tim pool
He's a tall woman.
lisa reynolds
He was so annoying.
But anyway, so I, like, gave it back to him a little bit, right?
But, like, instead of I punched him, right?
That would be seen as a.
tim pool
You would go to jail.
Creating Violent Circumstances 00:03:33
unidentified
Okay, right.
lisa reynolds
But then if he shot me for punching him, then he would go to jail.
unidentified
Yes.
lisa reynolds
But shouldn't I be in trouble for punching him?
tim pool
It's proportionality.
lisa reynolds
It doesn't matter.
You're missing the point.
tim pool
No, you're missing the point.
lisa reynolds
You can't get physical with people.
You can say whatever the F you want to be.
tim pool
In law, the point of self defense is that you are an innocent party to an aggressor.
lisa reynolds
I should have knocked that guy out then.
tim pool
So you go to jail.
daniel turner
You would have gone to jail for assault.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The people were robbing my car and I. If I'm walking down the street whistling a jaunty tune and a black guy walks up and swings at me, I can pull my gun out and shoot him and kill him on the spot.
ian crossland
Is that why they say, what did you say when you didn't say anything?
Because they're like, I don't know.
The point is this.
tim pool
I am minding my own business.
I am entitled to maximum use of force against a perceived threat.
unidentified
To be fair.
tim pool
I intentionally walk up to someone and use words which are a reasonable person would conclude could lead to violence.
Then he starts getting violent.
You can't then shoot him because you created the circumstance.
ian crossland
Don't you guys see what I'm saying?
The slippery slope of that is if you didn't actually say anything and they think you did, that they have then now and they punch you, you can't defend yourself?
carter banks
Oh, you can then if you didn't actually say anything.
unidentified
They do.
How do you, how do you, okay, again, what Scott said?
ian crossland
If they said you called him a name.
tim pool
Ian, welcome to law where people lie all the time.
unidentified
Sure.
ian crossland
So that's why this will be a case.
I think it's a good case.
tim pool
So you walk into a Dunkin' Donuts and they got a sign that says, We reserve the right to refuse service to anybody.
You know why?
Because maybe the guy just doesn't like white people and wants to kick you out.
But he can't say, Hey, white boy, get the fuck out of my shop.
So what he has to say is, Sir, we reserve the right to refuse service to anybody and we're asking you to leave.
And if you ask why, he'll say, That's private, but you can go now.
And the cops will say, Yep.
And then you're going to be like, But he's kicking me out based on race.
Doesn't matter.
It's not articulated.
They can do it.
ian crossland
Yeah, but I mean, it's a street altercation.
If you walk by a guy and he looks at you and he's like, What did you say?
You're like, I didn't say anything.
And then he punches.
You have a right to shoot that guy.
And he's like, Dude, he started it.
He called me a name.
And you're like, give me a fucking name.
tim pool
And then guess what happens?
It will go to a DA, and he's going to be like, Ian Crossland has no assault priors, no battery priors, no history of using racial slurs.
I don't believe we have any evidence that this can move forward.
ian crossland
However, this happens.
tim pool
However, Chud the Builder is going to go to a DA, and they're going to be like, well, here's 700 videos of him screaming nigger.
carter banks
What's more likely?
Was this a one off or?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And so, again, I think the important thing that people need to understand what I'm saying is with him going to jail.
Not a single prosecutor in any jurisdiction is going to be like, this guy's free to go.
They're going to be like, first of all, he's got a history of doing stuff like this.
He shot a guy.
He's known to insult them with racial slurs.
And I'm like, it's just not happening.
He is going to be charged.
They're going to call it a hate crime.
They're going to say, you carried a gun and mace up to a black man and called him and accused him of chimping out.
They're going to be like, you intended for violence to occur using racial slurs.
unidentified
Armed.
tim pool
And I got to be honest, I don't think there's a jury out there that would be like, nah.
josie glabach
Where did this happen?
unidentified
Tennessee.
lisa reynolds
I mean, if you had me on the jury, I'd be like, whoever put their hands on a curse deserves to get shot.
That's how I would be.
ian crossland
It was Clarksville, Tennessee, outside the court.
tim pool
I don't think there's a jury in this country that's going to be like, this guy who walks around calling black people chimp outs and niggers with a gun when he did it.
carter banks
He's broken every rule in the book.
tim pool
Here's the other thing that's going to come into play in this as well.
They're going to ask him, when he goes to trial and he's on the stand, the prosecution's going to say, have you ever been physically attacked by a black person before?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Here's a video of you calling a black man a nigger and then him punching you.
Jury Would Shoot in Tennessee 00:03:18
tim pool
Correct?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
So is it reasonable to assume that you knew if you walked to this man and accused him of chimping out or use a racial slur, he might attack you?
unidentified
Yes.
Okay.
tim pool
You created a violent circumstance you knew was going to happen.
lisa reynolds
But he can then show a bunch of other incidents where he did that and nobody touched him.
tim pool
Doesn't matter.
They're going to say how many in 50%, in 10%, there is a great probability, and you knew this, that even if it was a 90% likelihood the man would not attack you, you knew there's at least a 10%.
You knew you were creating a circumstance that would possibly result in violence, and you brought a gun.
You, there's, there's, every jury is going to be like, case dismissed.
You show the jury three videos of this guy walking around doing this, and they're going to be, the jury's going to be like, why are we deliberating?
josie glabach
Is Clarksville largely black?
unidentified
I don't know.
Yeah.
tim pool
It literally does have, yeah.
Let's bring callers into the mix, see what they have to say.
We got Danomite.
What say you, good sir?
unidentified
Sup.
daneomite in unknown
Howdy, good evening, fellas.
unidentified
Hey, man.
Hello.
Good evening.
daneomite in unknown
Thanks for taking my call.
So my question is mostly to Tim, but the whole panel can jump in.
With the potential of the Republican sweep from redistricting and gerrymandering to avoid a more radical, more radicalization and civil war, do you think there's a chance that people on the left can realize Republican control is not as bad as they have been told by the media?
And with the housing economy, people will have a hard time moving quickly to blue states, thus they're kind of forced to live under Republican control.
tim pool
That's a good point.
They're not going to be happy.
They won't like Republicans.
But a good point is when the economy sucks, you can't have a revolution because no one can organize.
Can't afford the bullets.
unidentified
That's fair.
tim pool
Well, no, but the point is about housing.
How are these far lefty wackos going to actually organize if they can't move from where they are or they're homeless?
There's that.
Maybe Trump is like, we're going to destroy the global economy by shutting down the Strait of Hormuz.
China loses half their energy, and Antifa, they have no money for guns.
I got to be honest.
Maybe Trump is making it as hard as possible as a pressure cooker.
It's a fever.
Strain the economy really hard so the weakest struggle and fail and those who are strong survive.
josie glabach
That's what it feels like is happening.
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
Oh, to answer your question earlier, Josie, the Clarksville, Tennessee, a black or African American population is 21 to 23%.
josie glabach
Okay.
So it's not like a black hub.
ian crossland
Like, yeah, okay.
Did that answer your question?
I was busy reading about the.
What's that?
daneomite in unknown
No, it's all good.
Yeah, that kind of answered it for the most part.
I kind of figured that the left will always hate Republicans, you know.
josie glabach
They need to have an enemy.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
josie glabach
As long as they're always.
That's the thing about Marxism.
They have to always be fighting for something and they can never win the thing because as long as they're fighting for it, then that's why there's always racism.
That's why everything is always worse.
It's always worse.
And that's why their politicians run on.
Platforms to stop all these things, but then, you know, do nothing to stop them because that's how they stay in power.
Marxism Needs an Enemy 00:15:15
josie glabach
It's the mission.
unidentified
Yeah, totally.
josie glabach
It is just like people, you know, people who have to always be victims and they can never be victors.
Same thing because there's street cred in being a victim.
daneomite in unknown
Right on.
Well, I appreciate your guys' time.
josie glabach
Thank you.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Right on.
Thanks for calling in.
ian crossland
Want to shout anything out before you rock?
daneomite in unknown
Just been a long time listener.
I just joined you guys.
Today, actually, so I'm really happy I was able to get it on the call.
Hey, and shout out to my wife and my two kids.
It's my son's birthday tomorrow, he's turning five, so we're super happy to celebrate that.
tim pool
Big day, right on.
Thanks for calling in, brother.
ian crossland
Happy birthday.
carter banks
Thanks, sir.
ian crossland
Yeah, see you, man.
daneomite in unknown
Have a great night as well.
tim pool
All right, next up, we've got Shade.
unidentified
What is up?
carter banks
What's up, Shade?
What is up, Shade?
shade in unknown
Hello, hey, what's up, Tinkasker?
ian crossland
Hey, Shud guy's face.
shade in unknown
How are we doing tonight?
unidentified
Thank you guys for taking the show.
Good.
He's doing good.
That's who that is.
Right on.
shade in unknown
So, a question for Tim and also interested in the panel's thoughts.
Now, I'm not trying to start drama between internet personalities, and I'm actually a pretty big fan of Benny.
But do you think Benny's statement saying that he serves his audience is reminiscent of the situation that you talked about in the past working for, I think it was Vice, where the producers wanted you to report what the audience wants to hear rather than the actual story?
Do you think Benny's statement affects his credibility as a journalist?
unidentified
I do.
tim pool
With all due respect to Benny, good things and bad things, people are deserving of criticism if they're deserving of it.
I like Benny, but Thomas Massey's not a pig.
This story is absurd on its face.
I've criticized Thomas Massey quite a bit, but I'm a big fan and I've called him the best member of Congress because he's an actual member of Congress.
Everyone else is fake bullshit.
Thomas Massey represents his district, believes what he believes, stands up for what he believes in, even if the tide, the tsunami, tells him not to do it.
And he's largely correct.
That is, I often feel that we should unify.
If Trump says we've got a mission, here's the plan, I say let's make that move.
I understand why Thomas Massey does the things that he does.
The idea that a week before the primary, someone came out and accused him of like hush money payments over sexual deviancy is just laughably absurd.
It was absurd when they did it to Kavanaugh.
It was absurd when they did it to Trump.
It's absurd doing it to Massey.
So the idea that Benny would be like, he's a pig.
And I'm like, if you want to serve your audience and you know they're largely anti Massey, then you can do it in a way where you point out the truth while criticizing Massey.
To call him a pig.
It's like, come on, bro.
Nobody believes that.
The people who are saying it are saying it because they want Ed to win because Massey won't march in lockstep with Trump, even though he's 90% of the time there.
If I were, I like Massey, but if I were in Benny's shoes and I wanted to serve the audience, I'd say, I don't believe these stories for a minute, but here's why I think Massey is bad and Ed should win.
Now, I'm actually pro Massey, so I think Massey should win.
So I don't think Benny needed to play it the way that he did.
And I think it does strike at his credibility a bit.
Also, the Marjorie Taylor Greene thing, too.
I think Marjorie's been a bit kooky, but to accuse her of fleeing the country to Costa Rica, come on.
Like, you know, but there's what it is.
Benny's not the worst of the bunch.
ian crossland
So, was Benny's argument, my audience thinks he's a pig, so I think he's a pig?
Like, was it that?
tim pool
That was really the general idea.
ian crossland
That's so shit.
Like, yeah.
Don't you think it was like, what do you really think?
shade in unknown
Like, this is what my audience thinks.
unidentified
What do you think?
tim pool
Here's the thing, guys.
Here's the thing.
We had Randy Fine on, and I get angry messages saying, fuck you, I'm quitting.
How dare you have him on the show?
And I'm like, You're mad that I was nice to Randy Fine.
I was nice to Nick Fuentes.
I told Nick Fuentes I would not struggle session him.
We are here to talk about the news, and you can comment on the news.
And we did the same thing with Randy Fine.
We did the same thing with Vosh.
We did the same thing with Charlie Kirk.
But here's the thing Benny knows it.
How do you run a business when there is a portion of people large enough that will stop watching, unsubscribe, shit talk you, and never buy a product again if you disagree with them?
Now, for me, I say, well, too fucking bad, I guess.
I'm not going to lie to attract a bigger audience.
It is what it is.
unidentified
But.
tim pool
You know, we had one dude, he used to call into the show all the time, tweeting at me saying, You've changed.
You used to be a truth teller, but you had that fat fucking Jew on.
unidentified
What the fuck?
tim pool
And I'm just like, Later, bitch, fuck yourself.
lisa reynolds
If he only knew the backroom tweets where, you know.
tim pool
Well, I already publicly announced they said they won't come back on the show.
lisa reynolds
Oh, you did say it?
tim pool
Bro, don't fuck with me.
Like, we get a message.
I don't know.
You know the details, but I don't know if you want to talk about it.
If you have Dan Bilzer in the show, the representative will not come back.
And I'm like, Oh, okay.
lisa reynolds
Tim's response was epic.
He was like, Well, I guess Randy Fine, I mean, Dan will be happy to know.
Will be happy to know that you're no longer like you're no more platformed on our platform.
tim pool
I said, feel free to tell him that I'm sure Dan Bilzerian will be happy to hear that you've removed yourself from the debate.
unidentified
Yeah.
josie glabach
I would have struggled Randy Fine.
I would have struggled Randy Fine.
unidentified
I'm not.
josie glabach
Wasn't here to do it, but I would have.
I also struggled Nick Fuentes in the green room.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, but struggle session is like you bring Nick on and go, Nick, you said this naughty thing.
unidentified
Will you answer?
tim pool
I'm not going to do that.
josie glabach
I did.
I did.
tim pool
Everybody's already heard it.
Everybody knows.
You know, With all due respect to Crowder, Nick goes on Crowder and Crowder asks him, You said this about this.
We did have, like, it did come up with Nick that he said Team Hitler and he explained it, but I didn't challenge him, like, Nick, I'm going to wiggle my finger.
I was like, eh.
lisa reynolds
Well, you just did news of the day, which I appreciate it.
tim pool
Nick Fuentes is a very prominent, well known individual with opinions that many people find offensive or shocking.
Some of them I don't like too, but we bring people on to talk about the news and what they think about it.
And if Nick was calling for genocide, I wouldn't have him on.
If he was saying we got to go murder, I wouldn't have him on.
Randy Fine has said really awful things about Palestinians that are in the context of war, which are disgusting, but we're going to ask him to talk about news and commentary.
And if Josie comes on next time, You can yell at them all you want.
lisa reynolds
I mean, I say get rid of all the sand countries, but you know, like that's pretty rough.
But no, I think that I think though that there we should have a rule as like commentators.
There are lots and lots of commentators that I do not like, like a lot.
And I know things that are wild about a lot of people, but I really think it's like distasteful to sit there and like badmouth other commentators and have them badmouth everybody else.
And then it becomes like this big drama click thing.
So I have like a rule to not.
Talk about other commentators because you know, like there's plenty of them that I'm sure I'm not a commentator, but for the most part, there's people that really don't like me, and there's a lot of people I really would say more than not that I don't like, you know.
But I still have to put them on the show, and we still get their opinions.
I just think it's I don't know, I just don't like commenting on what other commenters say.
Like, are you watching our show for what we care about betting or how we care about the news, you know what I mean?
Or what we have to say about, or what Tim has not me, but what Tim has to say about what the actual topics I just don't like that.
tim pool
It's just silly that everyone, you get this group of people all cheering.
We brought Nick on.
And then we get, I don't want to pretend like a lot of people were like, I'm canceling because he had on Randy Fine.
No, there's like three messages.
lisa reynolds
And I was like, later, like, don't threaten us.
That was like an intimidation thing.
And normally I wouldn't even say that publicly, but you did it already.
But I don't like anybody trying to like strong arm you into doing what, like who you can have on or not.
tim pool
And there were some people that were like, now you got to book Dan.
And I'm like, no, no, no, no.
We don't do that either.
I'm not going to be like, oh, yeah, well, now I'm going to book him.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
If we book them, we book them.
lisa reynolds
We were already talking about booking them before.
I book people I hate all the time, routinely.
Routinely.
unidentified
Right here.
tim pool
I generally just hate politicians because they're boring.
You know, I like Thomas Massey and Roh Khanna because when I ask them questions, they actually talk about it.
They're smart enough.
Even though I disagree heavily with Roh Khanna, he's smart enough to be able to answer questions.
Riley as well.
Riley's fantastic.
josie glabach
What I didn't like about Randy Fine's interview, you asked him about the settler issue and how it was reported by CBS and all that.
And he goes, Yeah, that's a problem.
And then he goes, but, and he deflected and was like, it pretty much said, if you talk about it, it's anti Semitism.
unidentified
Yeah.
josie glabach
This is all you talk about.
lisa reynolds
I'm so sick of the anti Semitism.
josie glabach
It was like, no, this is an important question.
This is something that's really bad that's happening, and you need to talk about it.
tim pool
But, you know, he wants.
ian crossland
He said that it was, they wanted to get you kicked off campus if you talk shit about Israel, not Jews.
One thing he conflated Israel and Judaism.
No, both of them.
He was acting like they were the same thing.
tim pool
He said, I asked him directly.
The bill is not to have you silenced or censored.
It's to force the universities to hold anti Semitism in the same weight as they do racism.
ian crossland
And about Israel.
tim pool
The problem then is, which I brought up, is that yes, but you put Israel in there, which is not Jewish.
ian crossland
And I asked him three times what would happen if you were on campus and you said Israel did 9 11.
And he wouldn't answer the question three times.
tim pool
Because he said it depends on what the university does.
I think that clarification is important.
ian crossland
It's all right.
I don't dislike the guy.
I would talk to him again for sure.
tim pool
You shouldn't get banned for ragging on Israel.
Israel should not be in that law.
That's where a lot of the problem comes from.
But I do appreciate the hilarity of.
Telling a university you can't kick Nick Fuentes off anymore unless you also kick off the people who don't like Israel, which creates a massive leverage point that basically says you have to allow free speech or we go after you.
lisa reynolds
I'm so sick of everything being anti Semitic, though.
There is a real problem with that.
I remember I used to work for this Jewish guy years ago, years and years ago.
And I remember him, I said something to him where, like, my brother was like, every time I see a Jewish family, like, their kids are nice, they're dressed nice, they drive a nice car, they've got their shit together, like, I like having Jewish people around.
And he looked at me and was like, Lisa, that's anti Semitic.
And I was like, what the fuck?
unidentified
Right?
lisa reynolds
Like, you can't win.
You're not.
Yeah, like that is where my problem is.
Like, everything's anti Semitic.
daniel turner
Do you think the left, not that I know a lot of folks here probably don't consider themselves, quote unquote, the right, but similar podcasts happening right now on the left, are they having this same conversation?
tim pool
Fuck no.
They're wackaloon retards that think Joe Biden didn't exist.
They're like, Joe Biden was a good guy.
daniel turner
They're saying, like, we can't have that person on our podcast because it may alienate.
unidentified
People?
daniel turner
Is there anyone who in their world, because whether you like it or not, all these people are in.
tim pool
No, that Parker guy, whatever that dude is, whatever his name is, you know what I'm talking about, right?
Democrat.
What these guys do, like.
josie glabach
One of the younger guys?
tim pool
Yeah, the younger guys.
They debate unseen faces.
So here's the thing.
Guys, you want to.
This one's for all of you at the Timcast.
Are you unscrupulous?
Do you want to be famous and rich and do nothing?
Boy, do I have an easy task for you.
So set up a camera, point at your face.
Ask one of your friends to pretend to be a retarded liberal who can't answer questions, and then you debate them with all the answers.
That's what Parker does.
That's what that Winston or whatever the fuck his name is.
I don't know the guys.
josie glabach
That's what Ben Shapiro does.
tim pool
Ben Shapiro goes to colleges, though, and you can see the people he's debating.
josie glabach
True.
tim pool
That's true.
But it's true of Charlie Kirk as well.
Debating people who don't know what they're talking about will make you famous.
See, we don't do that here.
I invite prominent individuals to debate with me whether I do poorly or do well.
If you want to be rich and famous, it's really easy.
All I got to do is put the camera on me, have someone call in and go, but Joe Biden never did anything like what Trump is doing.
And then I go, never, never anything.
Oh my God.
Can we talk about Hunter Biden?
Let me go.
Let me preach.
Hunter Biden.
And then the clip goes viral.
And people go, oh, you got that lib.
It wasn't a lib.
It was some guy paid five bucks to ask a question.
ian crossland
We don't agree with that.
If you're going to be like, no, Tim, Ian doesn't know.
I choose to be ignorant.
I come in on purpose, not reading what's going to happen.
I want to find out live on the show and ask questions.
I could very easily study this stuff before I come here.
And Tim's asked me in the past, like, hey, can you do this?
tim pool
It's not a lack of ability.
It's a lack of motivation.
unidentified
Of course.
ian crossland
I want to do this because it's easier.
No, and I don't know.
I could do a lot more research.
tim pool
I'm not even playing.
What's that blonde young liberal guy's name?
He was on Jubilee?
No, no, blonde.
carter banks
Luke Sisson?
unidentified
Is it Dean Withers?
Dean, Dean, Dean.
carter banks
Dean Withers, yeah.
tim pool
What he and that Parker guy do is they debate no one.
Oh, yeah.
And, so when we had Adam Conover on, and I yelled at him about.
That video got like 50 million views.
It was nuts.
And I was actually like, I was only 80% right.
I got a couple things wrong, like pretty wrong.
And afterwards, I was like, oh shit, I was actually wrong about some of that.
Doesn't matter.
I had people walking up to me for weeks being like, dude, I saw that fucking video.
Oh man.
But that wasn't, we didn't set that up.
We invited him to come on the show.
He's a learned individual in the space and he wanted to come on and we debated and we discussed.
And the Muslim thing.
Yeah.
And I was like, go to the UK and tell that joke.
And he goes, I don't know what you mean.
And I'm like, you know exactly what the fuck I'm talking about.
You go to the UK and make a joke about Muhammad, you'll get killed.
unidentified
True.
tim pool
And so that clip went super viral.
lisa reynolds
That was correct.
That wasn't wrong.
tim pool
But that was a real debate.
If I wanted to do those, if I wanted to make 10, 20 million, 30 million more per year, I could just do that.
You know what we're going to do?
I'm going to, we'll hybridize it.
I'm going to invite run of the mill retard liberals to debate me over the phone and then just crush them.
And you know what I'll do?
I'll invite people to come debate me.
And then as soon as they say something, I'll mute them and have Carter take the camera off them.
And then I'll just rant and go off.
That's what Sam Seder did when he came here.
ian crossland
You could probably build AI liberals to debate and then just shut them off and just rant.
tim pool
But you, but they, We're not there yet.
We need some adaptability.
ian crossland
It's getting there.
You know, I'm kind of with you, Lisa.
I don't like talking.
A lot of these, I find a lot of people in this realm fucking fake as fuck and like insecure and like liars.
Some people are like horribly terrible people, but I want to get through to them and help them like as a human.
So, but sometimes it's like I wouldn't talk shit about the guy, but I'd rather like release the data that shows that he's a piece of shit.
lisa reynolds
Like, I don't want to do, I mean, I feel like that's like bad juju, bad karma.
Like, um, I don't know.
There's something like I could release bad stuff about a lot of people, like a list.
Like, I've got a list.
Like, I could write a book.
It would be horrible.
Like, it would probably destroy half the right, right?
But, like, seriously, crazy things.
But, but I don't, I just think that.
tim pool
Like, boys kissing boys.
lisa reynolds
It's not even crazier, like abortions and shit, like crazy stuff, right?
Like, from like people who champion pro life causes, like wild things, right?
Like, just really bad things and lots of lies and lots of.
Deceit and bad things.
But I don't think that furthers our cause.
Releasing Bad Stuff About People 00:03:33
lisa reynolds
I don't think it really does anything for the political discourse, right?
Like in general, even if these people are bad and they're talking about the correct way to live, maybe they know the correct way to live and they're flawed and they suck, but they know what's really right.
I don't see outing them as doing anything to further any good.
It's just more drama and it distracts from what the things we really need to talk about.
tim pool
I think we're the only real political commentary that exists anywhere.
And I'm only half joking, but.
lisa reynolds
There isn't many.
tim pool
I was talking to Ashley St. Clair recently because we're trying to get her on.
But she can't travel because I think it'd be interesting to talk to her about everything that's been happening.
She's always been a friend of ours.
So I know she's basically become anti tech, anti right.
So I think it's worth having a conversation.
But she says she has, obviously in the news, she's been spilling the beans on a lot of people and going after them.
unidentified
And.
tim pool
What I realized is.
lisa reynolds
I have issues with that.
I mean, I'm not saying what she's saying is true or not true.
Like, I'm not going to go.
tim pool
No, no, I'm pointing out.
You've just said you wouldn't leak it.
She is leaking it.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, I don't.
tim pool
My point is, you learn some really interesting things.
Like, most commentators are paid by political parties to say the things they say.
And so I was actually surprised to find out.
lisa reynolds
I think what happened to Ashley was really wrong, too.
I just want to say for the record.
Like, I think that what she had going on in her personal life did not need to be ousted the way that she was.
Like, I don't like that.
tim pool
But yeah, yeah, yeah.
But my point is.
Most of the people online who are conservative and liberal are literally being paid by political action committees to have those opinions.
They don't actually care.
They will literally go to a prominent person who has a million followers and they'll say, We want you to support abortion now.
And they'll go, How much?
And they'll go, We'll give you a million dollars to change your position.
unidentified
They'll go, Okay.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, that's because most of them don't really know anything about it or have any real positions.
tim pool
Look at the Animal Farm stuff.
lisa reynolds
Yeah, that was wow.
tim pool
Nobody cared.
They're just like, Sure.
And that was a bit more surreptitious.
But there is more overt stuff where, like, the Trump administration will literally go to a prominent personality and say, We need messaging on this.
So, we're going to pay your company 200 grand, and we want you to get influencers to say yes on this particular thing.
lisa reynolds
There are a lot of influencers that do that, but there are also a lot of influencers that really will only take money from the things they actually believe in, too.
tim pool
I think it's just random.
All right, Carl, you want to shout anything out?
We got some more people to get to.
lisa reynolds
We got distracted.
shade in unknown
Yeah, no, that's okay.
I had you guys on a roll.
Just three shout outs.
One is everybody needs to get their Clux Capacitor at 555 Tom Clux, C L U X. Ian, you're awesome.
Best Tim Cass co host.
You've weathered the years.
And then lastly, I wanted to shout out somebody on X named Tom Smoltz.
It's The System is Down on X.
He did a great documentary on Thomas Massey and, you know, just his whole political career.
unidentified
Yeah.
shade in unknown
Oh, do you know him?
josie glabach
Yeah, Dan Smoltz.
He's terrific.
He's done a great documentary.
I was a part of it, of course.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Let's try it.
You're in it.
josie glabach
Yes, I'm in it.
Yeah, I did a great documentary.
Everybody should check that out just on who Thomas is and who Thomas has always been.
He's been consistent.
Thomas didn't change.
Everybody else did.
tim pool
That's correct.
ian crossland
I like that Dan Smoltz guy.
josie glabach
Yeah, he's great.
Today, he's been dropping AI on Ed Galrain with, like, oh my gosh, look at this.
Team Up for Independence 00:04:16
josie glabach
Is this Ed kicking a puppy?
Oh my goodness.
All day, he's been dropping stuff like that.
unidentified
It's so funny.
tim pool
All right, brother.
Thanks for calling in, man.
ian crossland
Thanks, dude.
unidentified
Thank you guys.
Take care.
tim pool
Have a good one.
ian crossland
And Dan Smoltz, the system is down.
It's T S I D P O D on Twitter.
unidentified
T S I D P O D. All right.
tim pool
We got, Philly Cheese 45.
Real quick, before you chime in, what's that thing called where you take a Philly cheesesteak and wrap it in pizza?
lisa reynolds
It was funny because I just took people to Lorenzo's the other night because they had those big slices.
And I took people there and I said, Some people do this, but like Philly people don't actually do that.
I don't, I think it's like a Philly taco.
I think that's what they call it.
unidentified
Yes.
Yes.
lisa reynolds
Philly people don't really.
tim pool
When we lived in Jersey, we're just, we're like literally on the other side of the river.
So we're basically in the suburbs.
Right.
We, I went in and I bought like 10 of them to bring back and I'm like, let's go.
And it's, you take a gigantic slice of pizza and you wrap a Philly cheesesteak.
lisa reynolds
Lorenzo's is like, it's like really sweet.
So it's like definitely like drunk pizza.
Like, I could only eat that.
I have really funny stories about Lorenzo's pizza.
But anyway, bad stories.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Billy Cheese 45.
What's going on?
Are you in favor?
lisa reynolds
What's up?
phillycheese45 in unknown
No, I wish.
I'm going to have to get a midnight snack for sure.
I'm hungry.
First off, I want to shout out Josie and Lisa.
Happy Bladed Mother's Day.
unidentified
Oh, thank you so much.
phillycheese45 in unknown
My question is mainly for Josie and Daniel, but I'm definitely curious what the rest of the panel thinks.
So, Daniel, A simple guy like me, how can I power the future of my humble eighth acre lot in a small suburb?
I have chickens and I try to grow what I can, but what should I be investing in at my level that would meet your mission, kind of be in line with your values and goals, and something that the everyday American can achieve?
daniel turner
There are so many great small homesteaders that will talk about what they can do with a half acre, with an acre.
You got eight, which is actually a considerable amount of land.
I would poke around.
phillycheese45 in unknown
Just one eighth.
daniel turner
Oh, one acre.
unidentified
Okay.
daniel turner
You can still, there are homesteaders who will show you what they do with half an acre.
You know, with proper layout, I think you can accomplish an awful lot.
Get a generator, I think, is absolutely essential, especially when we talk about power crunch.
I have a thousand gallon propane tank, and it's essential because I am worried about the electric grid without a doubt.
I think that's incredibly valuable.
Uh, yeah, and try to be as independent as possible.
I'm at the point now that I'll have bacon, egg, and cheese for breakfast, and the bread and the bacon and the eggs and the cheese are all ours.
unidentified
Wow.
daniel turner
I kind of like that.
Next step is the dairy cow.
And if you can't do it yourself, find other friends who will and do like a little cooperative.
Find someone who has a cow and you have the chickens, and find someone who does the lamb and who does vegetables and team up because you can't eat a whole bushel of.
Red peppers, you'll go bonkers, right?
But you can swap them for a lot of chickens.
So, yeah, find friends in the same boat.
tim pool
Isn't it funny when you give a zucchini to a chicken?
They don't eat the outer green, they carve in and leave the thin hollow.
Like, what's up with that?
daniel turner
They don't like the skin.
unidentified
Yeah.
daniel turner
I love to see what chickens eat.
I feed my chickens like animals, like humans, though.
All my leftover food scraps I give to the chickens.
tim pool
They'll eat anything.
daniel turner
They eat everything.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Are you at the point where you're hiring a lot of people?
phillycheese45 in unknown
Halloween or pumpkins, please?
daniel turner
Yeah, they love pumpkins.
tim pool
But the funny thing is, zucchini skin is so thin.
They hollow it out and just leave this thin, you know.
daniel turner
I wonder if it's because it's bitter or just waxy or, yeah.
unidentified
Um, oh, yeah.
ian crossland
If you soak it in baking soda water first, maybe they'll it'll be easier for them to eat the skin, it's just because like the waxy layer.
You do that well, you don't need to.
unidentified
I don't, yours is organic.
ian crossland
Um, yeah.
unidentified
Anything else?
ian crossland
Did you say you had one eighth of an acre or one acre?
unidentified
Oh, one eighth.
phillycheese45 in unknown
So, okay, uh, like 0.125.
So, not not a big lot, not a big lot.
Um, no.
But I do have a follow on question for Josie, however.
I don't want to take up too much time.
So, Josie, I'm in the middle of this documentary about George Washington.
Shout Out to Tom Smoltz 00:04:10
phillycheese45 in unknown
So, I'm curious your thoughts as a profound scholar on our founding.
I've learned a lot from you, so I appreciate that.
So, similar question, but how does one, and I want to stress this, nonviolently refresh the trade liberty given such humble beginnings and standing within our country?
Our founders tended to be men of great means and virtue as well.
Then they could definitely enact a lasting impact given the time period.
So I'm curious your thoughts on how the average American can actually influence their surroundings.
josie glabach
Bottom up approach.
So I would, that's a great question, by the way.
It's a bottom up approach.
So I would go and go run for your school board, run for your sheriff, run for the select board, do everything on a small level.
That's how the Marxists infiltrated.
So we just got to be better at the game than they were.
And that's how we're going to get our country back.
That's where decisions are made on what books your kids are going to read at school.
You know, that's where everything starts there on a local community level.
And then from there, maybe from there you can go up to a state level.
But I actually had come on the show probably five years ago and I said, states' rights is the future.
Pretty soon, we're going to be looking to moving to states based on how they're run.
Like, we're not going to want to move to Florida because it's sunny and there's beaches and there's Disney World.
We're going to want to move because the governor isn't a A tyrant, a pedophile, exactly.
A tyrant that's taking all your money, you know.
And we're seeing the balkanization now of that.
So, in order to be as close to the founders as possible, and I guess this would be more of an anti federalist position, is a state, make your state the best that you can possibly make it and just hold tight to those values that our founders believed in.
The Bill of Rights is sacred.
So, that's what I would recommend.
unidentified
Okay.
phillycheese45 in unknown
And do you have any advice on kind of breaking through people that just Can't get out of the propaganda and can't get.
I know we've talked about kind of information sanitizer, not getting ahead of the stories.
And I know Ian's talked about this like calling his parents when a story comes out.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Information, vaccination.
josie glabach
Exactly.
So, yeah.
So, what has to happen?
And I have to go both ways on this because I have family that's like diehard MAGA, and then I have family that's diehard left.
I'm from Massachusetts.
So it's really split there like that.
So, what it is, I'll give just the truth, just the facts, and then I let them process it.
I don't try to convince them of anything.
They will come and ask me questions, which is good.
So, if there's open lines of communication, that's even better.
But That's what I would recommend doing is just you know the truth, you put the truth out there, you don't try to convince them of anything.
You just have to let it process.
They have to accept it on their own, they have to get through their own cognitive dissonance.
So, what's important is just being patient with that, understanding of that, trying to see their side, even though their side is retarded.
tim pool
See, the problem I describe it as is everything on their side has already crossed my mind.
So, I can't actually have a real conversation with libs because I know what they're going to say before they say it.
And I think most of us already do.
ian crossland
Yeah, you really have to bow down to their level.
It's very humbling.
josie glabach
It's very dark down there.
unidentified
It's dark.
Yep.
Yeah.
ian crossland
But it feels good, man.
As long as you get it, you know, once you get through to them, it's worth it.
tim pool
You want to add anything or shout anything out?
phillycheese45 in unknown
Just two quick shout outs.
I want to shout out my dad.
He recently had a brain surgery to fix a bleed.
He seems to be doing okay, but if you're the praying type, please keep him in my thoughts.
unidentified
Absolutely.
phillycheese45 in unknown
And then, Tim, I want to shout out Humble Park, Chicago.
I know you guys were mentioning kind of.
Justified self defense.
There was an officer earlier in March.
He was yelling, I will kill you.
And then he proceeded to shoot a guy trying to ram into a bus and do other stuff.
So I believe he's facing trial in Chicago.
tim pool
Of course, Chicago, even though he's in the riot.
phillycheese45 in unknown
Exactly.
So yeah, just want to shout him out as well.
unidentified
Wow.
Move Government Out of DC 00:04:28
tim pool
Well, I keep telling these people get away from the cities, don't be cops because they're going to lock you up.
You're the criminal there.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Right on, man.
Well, thanks for calling in, brother.
unidentified
Appreciate it.
phillycheese45 in unknown
Appreciate everything you guys do.
ian crossland
Thanks, dude.
Take care.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
And last but not least, we got Kai.
What's going on?
unidentified
What's up, Kai?
kai in unknown
Welcome, Tim.
You know who I am.
I'm going to get straight to the point.
My question is for Josie, but the other panel can chime in.
Josie, do you think it's possible or even desirable to make DC square again by reversing the 1846 Retro Session Act?
That act actually allowed Virginia to take its portion of DC back.
Now, Article 1, Section A, Clause 17, known as the Enclave Clause, says Congress can exercise exclusive legislation over a district not exceeding 10 miles square, seated by the states.
Now, you can review that section, but it does not say about giving it back to the states.
josie glabach
What was your question?
kai in unknown
Do you think it's possible to make a DC square again by a Reversing or eliminating the 1846 retro.
josie glabach
I feel like DC is so disgusting and so swampy that it would be best to give it back to the states.
And I mean, if you.
kai in unknown
No, no, Josie, you have to think long term.
Where is.
josie glabach
I'm not done.
unidentified
Okay, sorry.
josie glabach
Okay, that's right.
So I think it would be best to give it back, like hand it back to Virginia and Maryland, and then make it somewhere else, somewhere new.
And I think that at the same time, all of the departments need to be scattered across the country because the lobbyists get in there.
Real hard.
So the Department of Agriculture put it in Kansas, you know.
So spread it out.
Get all the crap out of DC, out of just the 10 miles or whatever.
Get it all out of there and spread it out and put DC in fucking Alaska.
lisa reynolds
Get rid of it all.
kai in unknown
No, I'm sorry, Josie, but I'm thinking like because making a square again will actually capture all the blue areas in Northern Virginia, like Alexandria, Fairfax.
So it'll technically make Virginia red again and give Republicans an advantage.
And I know you want to scatter it, but it's not going to happen.
It's too bureaucratic.
It's not going to happen.
tim pool
We're not going to put it in Alaska either.
josie glabach
I'm not going to put it.
No, I'm going with my dream.
tim pool
We could turn it to glass.
josie glabach
Yeah, okay.
That's true.
I just, whatever DC is.
There's no sand there, but the joke is it's best to just, yeah, if we could just get rid of DC and put it somewhere else and get rid of all the, like, the swamp is just in one place.
It's all congregated.
tim pool
Well, actually, we should, I think we should actually, it would be great if we had a law that we move.
The branches of government should not all be in the same place.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
So the Supreme Court, like, think about how insane it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We put all branches of the government in the same place within, like, a couple miles of each other.
That's actually the problem.
ian crossland
Before electricity, when we had this.
lisa reynolds
Does where it is matter?
tim pool
Because you can nuke it and wipe out our entire federal government.
unidentified
Good.
lisa reynolds
When you have the population that votes for the senators, which was never supposed to be, right?
You have the general public who is literally retarded, okay?
52% of people in cities can't even freaking read, okay?
And they're voting for these idiots that are there.
This whole system doesn't work.
And if everybody wants to keep going, oh, it's like the greatest.
No, it's not.
tim pool
There's only one way to change that.
unidentified
You know what it is, right?
Yeah.
tim pool
It's guns.
Because you can vote to give, but you can't vote to take.
lisa reynolds
Here's the other thing.
This is a problem, and I say this all the time.
I used to be like the libertarian and like, yay, our Constitution is great.
Sucks, okay?
You know why?
Because instead of fighting the people that are in power, we are literally putting them there, those freaking idiots.
And not only that, now we're fighting with each other.
We're fighting with our neighbors on the street.
Instead of pointing our anger and our ire at the people who are really causing the issues, now we're fighting with our neighbors all the time.
This system sucks.
I'm sorry, there's nothing good about it.
Honestly, you've got lobbyists in there.
We've got people that are poisoning us, you know, like in France and in other places.
Now, listen, they've got a lot of things going wrong with them, but you know what?
They're not poisoning their people with their food, but they can do that here because of lobbyists.
This system blows.
And at least instead of us fighting each other, all right, like that's which is what's going on here.
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