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April 22, 2026 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Democrats ALREADY LOST, Virginia Court Says Redistricting UNCONSTITUTIONAL | Timcast IRL

Tim Pool and Nick Sortor dissect a Virginia court ruling declaring redistricting unconstitutional, alleging a "deep state" plot to save Democrats after Trump's victory. They indict the SPLC for aiding white supremacists, debate mass deportations versus false official numbers, and explore conspiracy theories ranging from terraformed Earth and lost empires like Tartaria to suppressed anti-gravity tech. The discussion critiques corporate personhood, migration maps showing demographic shifts since 2008, and the hypocrisy of traditional values advocates, ultimately framing modern political gridlock as a battle between sovereignty and globalist agendas. [Automatically generated summary]

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Virginia Redistricting Chaos 00:03:23
tim pool
So last night, we were talking about how in Virginia, 51% of residents voted to strip away the Democratic voice of the other 49.
That's right, they passed a referendum saying they're going to redraw the districts of the state so that five districts stretch with tiny little strips into Alexandria and Fairfax, which basically eliminates four Republican seats.
Well, not even 24 hours later, a court has ruled it unconstitutional, barred it, and refused to issue a stay.
Pending appeal, the AG's pissed.
He's like, Well, we're going to appeal this.
And the judge is like, Yeah, go ahead and do it.
Basically, they went through all of that just to flop onto their faces.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I was a little black pilled the other day seeing this happening because it's like the deep state literally is taking over Virginia as their last bastion after being crushed by Donald Trump, but they're even struggling to get it done down there.
So, okay.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
You know, it's going to be a good day.
We'll talk about that.
And of course, Ilhan Omar, she's in the news because she revised her.
Her, you know, her, her, her, what is it called?
nick sortor
Her, um, financial disclosure.
tim pool
There you go.
This is Nick Sord.
He got, he knows what I'm talking about.
The financial disclosure, because apparently she's not a millionaire.
She just accidentally claimed she was for some reason.
And we'll talk about that.
And then, uh, we'll talk about the war, you know, for some reason, because I guess, you know, war and stuff.
But, uh, Heg Seth has fired the Secretary of the Navy, which is big news.
We'll get into all that.
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It's Nick Sortor.
nick sortor
Thank you for having me again, Tim.
Appreciate you.
tim pool
Who are you?
unidentified
What do you do?
SPLC Retraction Explained 00:15:17
nick sortor
I'm an independent reporter, and unfortunately, I'm spending a lot more time here in the DC area because there aren't as many ICE deportations happening.
I guess we'll maybe talk about that at some point.
tim pool
You've got to get on this fraud train.
ian crossland
It's everywhere.
unidentified
Where do you start?
tim pool
Throw a dart at a map, hop on a plane.
unidentified
Wait, wait.
tim pool
No, it's got to be like you've got to get all of the Democrat cities and states.
And put them in a big hat and then just pull one out and be like, Lazarol, I bet you'll find crazy fraud.
nick sortor
I mean, I look at my messages every single day and people are like, oh, I found fraud here in this state.
It's like, okay, I'll add it to the list.
I think we're getting close to 50 at this point.
ian crossland
Are you like in a holding pattern for deportations right now where you're kind of got your ear to the ground, kind of?
So that's why you haven't developed, like, dove into any other stories?
nick sortor
Well, yeah, because I think that mass deportations are, if we go away from that, then like, may as well just give up the country at that point because we've got, You know, the official number has been 20 million for like 30 years now.
And so we're saying that no illegals came in under Joe Biden.
The numbers are BS.
We're not deporting nearly enough people.
And worst of the worst is code for amnesty.
So, indeed.
tim pool
Well, Ian is obviously here.
unidentified
Yeah, thanks, Tim.
ian crossland
At Ian Crossing, you find me on the internet, but I also got the real Tate Brown.
tate brown
It's true.
It's true.
I'm the real one, and I am here, and I'm happy to be here.
carter banks
It's only one of them, and he's the real one, and I'm Carter Banks.
tim pool
And let's get to the news, man.
We got big, big news.
Big news.
Some say too big.
CNN says.
Judge Barr's certification of Virginia redistricting results.
State AG promises appeal.
Well, heavens me.
They say a judge in rural Southern Virginia on Wednesday ordered the results of Tuesday's vote not be certified on several grounds, including the state lawmakers did not follow their own rules in passing the redistricting referendum.
Tazewell County Circuit Court Judge Jack Hurley also called the ballot language put to voters flagrantly misleading.
I just want to stress.
You're like a conservative leaning guy in a rural area being told that 51% will strip you of your voice and you're a judge.
You're going to be like, I bet this dude was sitting there watching it happening.
He's like watching this show being like, I can't wait to get to work tomorrow.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
I am going to rubber stamp this thing so fast.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Well, he's got a point.
Like, I live in Virginia, and when I went and voted in this, I knew exactly what I was going in to vote.
I had to like reread the language for a second because it was like, we want to reissue fairness for the upcoming elections.
I was like, yeah, I'm in favor.
Wait a second.
unidentified
How do you vote for that?
nick sortor
You know, that's.
That's the entire thing.
So you go in there not knowing about it and being the fact that we decided that we were going to spend, and not we, I'm sorry, let me take that back.
unidentified
Not we.
nick sortor
The RNC decided that they were going to dump $100 million into John Cornyn's race instead of this much more important race down in Virginia.
A lot of people didn't know what they were even voting on, right?
They're going out of the polls.
You read the question that was super misleading.
It's not like you got a map on the ballot.
It was, did you guys read the question out last night or do I need to do it again?
unidentified
We did.
tim pool
Yeah, I'll pull it up.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Virginia.
unidentified
It's so funny.
tate brown
Yeah, that's got to one shot, like, kind of uninformed voters.
There's no question about it.
Because, again, you read the language.
tim pool
And, again, if you have no idea what's going on, you're like, should the Constitution of Virginia be amended to allow the General Assembly to temporarily adopt new congressional districts to restore fairness in the upcoming elections while ensuring Virginia's standard redistricting process resumes for all future redistricting after the 2030 census?
ian crossland
And so many people read, restore fairness.
Yeah, that's a good thing.
I'll vote for that.
tate brown
I mean, it's unbelievable, to your point, Nick.
I mean, like, The fundraising gap was what, 60 million, something like that?
And that ballpark?
nick sortor
Three to one.
tate brown
Three to one, utterly ridiculous.
And then you have, like, again, John Cornyn getting his pot defended.
You have, like, Chris Lacevita coming out on Twitter, and, like, instead of showing you a little humility and being like, yeah, okay, maybe I fumbled this, instead he's, like, attacking, like, random guys on Twitter just because Chris Lacevita wasn't being paid to help with it.
nick sortor
He's being paid to try to force a rhino in.
Like, keep in mind, this is a really big point here.
It's not just about getting, what's his name, John Cornyn.
It's not like he's in a close race with a Democrat.
They're trying to get John Cornyn to beat another Republican, a better Republican.
I mean, it's just money thrown into a hole and burned.
tim pool
I want to throw this map up there and just tell you.
So here's what happened.
I'm sitting on my couch watching Brett Baer, as one does.
He's a fantastic newsman.
I mean that sincerely.
It's not a joke.
He's great.
And right at the top of the hour, he goes, a Virginia court has struck down the redistricting efforts and is refusing to issue a temporary state pending appeal.
Then they gave you some of the context.
And I was just like, holy, it's not even been 24 hours.
And the deep state attempt to turn Virginia into a vassal of the deep state has failed.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Amazing.
I want to show you, y'all need to understand, see where we are.
Let me zoom in.
Can I zoom in on this image right here?
And I'm going to tell you see number six and number 10?
We are like right here.
That's where we are right now.
That means I go to Virginia for lunch.
As Tate mentioned, he lives there.
We are probably a couple of minutes, depending on the studio, from Loudoun or Frederick County, Virginia.
This whole block right here, number six, quite literally is where we get lunch relatively often.
10 is Loudon, and I go there for Korean barbecue at Gogee92.
Shout out, it's like the best Korean barbecue ever.
Ian knows it.
He's got this look on his face.
ian crossland
I don't know if I've had it yet.
I want it right now, though.
tim pool
We've been there.
Oh, it's the best.
Plus, the guys dress up like Akatsuki from Naruto, so I will always just prefer to go there over anywhere else for Korean barbecue.
Like they'll be, they're walking around just like anime characters, just randomly one day.
I don't know why, but I'm a fan of Naruto, so I liked it.
unidentified
So, check it out.
tim pool
Here's what they've done.
To the districts that we live in, our crew here, and where we go for lunch and hang out.
They've turned Winchester, where we go for lunch, and Loudoun into one congressional district, basically, lumping Winchester, which is blue, with Loudoun, which is deep blue, eliminating all of the conservatives.
It's a deep conservative area.
If you take a look at the redistricting vote, let's get the results, VA, because you can actually see.
Check this out.
I'll show you exactly what they did.
So, this is what I'm talking about right here.
Frederick County, it voted no, right?
You take a look here at Shenandoah County, you take a look at Warren County, you take a look at Clark County, they all voted no.
And the Democrats were like, yeah, let's eliminate that.
Let's take away their voices.
These people said no to this map, and it was thrust upon them by this tiny little piece right here.
Here you go.
This is what it is Alexandria, about 50,000 yes votes.
Fairfax County, 140,000 yes votes.
That's what basically throws this into yes territory.
It's 130.
unidentified
What is it?
tim pool
It's not even.
It's 90,000.
And they get that from just Alexandria, just Fairfax.
And they eliminate all of the little orange spots in the state, lose their voice.
Well, they got crushed.
Good riddance.
nick sortor
Well, I mean, you probably saw.
I don't know how closely you were tracking this last night, but of course, Fairfax County was the.
It was over an hour after the polls had already closed before they even counted one vote in Fairfax County.
And you're like, okay, well, why is that?
tim pool
Because it's the deep state.
nick sortor
Because it's the deep state.
That is the deep state capital of the United States, Fairfax County, right?
unidentified
No joke.
tim pool
Literally, it is.
And I will tell you exactly what's going on right now.
Actually, I'll put it this way.
I have some theories, and I'm probably wrong about everything.
That being said, with the move against the SPLC, this is, in my opinion, one of the NGOs, it's a nonprofit.
We call them NGOs when they're at the international scale.
The government, through USAID and these crony legal schemes, were funneling government money to various lawyers and NGOs that were being used for political purposes and manipulation, running ad campaigns, propping up law firms that were fighting for political causes.
Finding their way through various donation platforms to get Democrats elected.
Trump crushed USAID.
He basically took a sledgehammer to the deep state.
The roaches of the deep state crawled like the scum they are into, well, they always lived in Fairfax, to be honest, and they're trying to form a last bastion in Virginia.
The remnants.
You know what?
I would say this to all of my liberal friends who can only understand politics through the lens of popular fiction like Harry Potter or Star Wars.
I would say the deep state.
Is the Death Eaters, Voldemort's henchmen trying to come back together, or the First Order from the sequel movies you all like despite them being miserably bad movies?
Now that you understand what we're talking about, you know why we don't like these people.
tate brown
Yeah, well, what's interesting, at least, I mean, look, turnout, this record high turnout, if you compare it to the last gubernatorial election, I mean, Winston Sears got spanked by Spanberger.
So I think going in, I was anticipating a yes vote.
I actually ended up being a lot closer than I thought it was going to be.
I expected like a five point spread because I'd seen the fundraising numbers.
And then, in addition to that, I guess I do live in Virginia.
I won't say which county, but closer to DC.
And I was just getting like Obama ads on every YouTube video.
It was Obama ads nonstop.
Didn't see any Republican ads.
So I was thinking, like, we're going to get spanked a lot closer, which is just interesting, honestly.
But in addition to that, okay, this court, this judge has struck this down.
The Virginia Supreme Court actually tilts conservative.
This is according to Balladpedia, a few other sources.
It actually tilts conservative.
unidentified
So.
tate brown
I mean, there is a situation in which this escalates quite quickly.
It just depends on how much fight the GOP has.
I mean, are they going to clean up their mess here?
The national GOP owes it to the Republicans in Virginia to clean up this mess.
nick sortor
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, they should have been helping out a lot more weeks ago, but I digress on that.
But there is actually a really good constitutional argument here.
The judge today that struck this down so quickly literally called it egregious, right?
Because this was passed through a quote unquote special session.
When the governor calls a special session, it is done for a specific reason, and what they pass through that is limited to that reason, right?
In this special session, they decided to, it was supposed to be for a limited budget matter, and that's when they rammed these maps through here.
So if we have any semblance of a fair judicial system left, this will get thrown out in May.
ian crossland
There's a theory that we're.
We've let them.
I don't know if you guys heard this theory that they let the Democrats spend tons of money on this just because they knew it wasn't going to be crushed.
nick sortor
We're not that good at 40 chess, man.
I'm just saying.
tim pool
Well, let me put it this way.
I actually am not entirely sure.
I was interviewing Seb Gorkha last year, and I asked him if the deep state had been crushed.
And he says, no, absolutely not.
They're still there.
And he's not wrong.
What I see here with the move against the SPLC, they're deep state.
I mean, they are now being, according to this indictment, they funded.
Part of, I'm not going to be as hyperbolic as some of these outlets.
They were providing resources to one of the organizers who helped secure transport for many people who showed up.
This was the SPLC, according to the indictment, helping to foment Unite the Right through organizing so they could then come out and fundraise against it.
And many other nonprofits fundraised against it as well.
What I will say is, I'm going to make it as personal as possible, is that the SPLC tried accusing me as well as several others in 2018 of being Russian assets, of being orchestrated or directed by the Russian government.
And it didn't work.
I have talked about this before.
After my coverage in Sweden, I received several emails from Russia Today trying to license my footage, despite the fact it was all fair use and you didn't need to license it.
So I rightly ignored their emails, as I'm not going to take their money.
Then I had people hit me up who were friends being like, oh, by the way, Russia Today wants to buy the footage from you.
And I said, finally, I snapped and I said, why would they buy footage that's free to use?
This makes no sense.
unidentified
F off.
tim pool
Then finally, Merrick Garland came out and he got his wish and he falsely accused me and many others of taking money from the Russian government.
They can't malign me in any other way.
They can't call me far right.
They can't call me a white supremacist.
They had nothing.
So the SPLC, strangely, along with eventually the smear they got through Merrick Garland, was trying to call me and many others as coordinated by the Russians.
And the reason why this matters the article that they wrote, which they did have to retract, was pointing out that leftists, like at the time in 2018, I'm like a liberal guy, I was like a pro Bernie guy before that.
It was me, Rania Kalick, Ben Norton, Max Blumenthal, all very clearly on the left.
And they could not call them fascists and they could not call them white supremacists because they were well known communists.
Like, not all of them.
I'm just saying, like, they're all pretty much on the left easily.
Similarly, Jimmy Dore.
So they tried maligning us as Russians and it didn't work, but they eventually did get their stupid play two years ago, which is fake.
These people must be crushed.
They did the same thing to Tulsi Gabbard and Kash Patel.
And I hope, I beg, and I pray that these people are utterly destroyed.
You know, because I will just say this.
I never did anything to these people.
I didn't know these people.
Literally, at the time in 2018, I'm just some random guy who worked at Vice, and I went to Sweden.
And I was like, I'm going to film stuff for a vlog.
I had no idea what was going on.
I wasn't promoting Trump.
In fact, I said, I'm going there to prove Trump wrong.
And these people tried to destroy my life.
They put out these fake reports claiming that, of all people, Chris Reagan, who does comedy sketches and plays video games, had collaborated with Richard Spencer.
They put me in the center of this nexus of the alt right networking.
With their alternative influencer network.
And I'm sitting here being like, it is the weirdest experience in the world to have academics, NGOs start accusing you of being a white supremacist and a Russian.
This is back in 2018.
And I'm like, I only have like 100,000 subscribers on YouTube.
I'm sitting here being like, what the heck?
unidentified
What is this?
tim pool
Why are these people coming after me?
They are evil, deranged lunatics who must be crushed.
ian crossland
I think the system is being dismantled.
That's the most important because the individuals will come in and then leave and come in.
And it's like hard to track who's who.
unidentified
Who's doing what?
ian crossland
Who's calling what shots?
But that system of globalization, that it's basically an international banking system that's through the Federal Reserve has tried to take the United States for 100 years, is trying to malign people that are like, no, American property rights, gun rights, free speech, fuck the corporation, pardon my language, but welcome to America.
And that's the system that is like, so, but I do like that they're working on it.
I mean, what did Cash do yesterday?
tate brown
Indictments.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
ian crossland
This is, it's looking very good.
Biden Administration Dismantled 00:14:33
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
I mean, like, look, first of all, we need a truth and reconciliation committee for Charlottesville.
I mean, it's very, people have been saying it for years that it was riddled with feds.
Everyone kind of knew that implicitly.
And now we have like hard proof that it's the case.
They literally put names out.
In addition to that, I mean, there's something to be said about the fact that the SPLC tried to control, again, like voices that were sort of dominating the mainstream, pushing the mainstream in different directions.
No, they go after like dissident, you know, they infiltrate sort of the dissident.
Sphere because again, they don't, that's where they can play around.
That's their playground, that sort of thing.
That's just kind of proof to me.
It's evident to me that really the mainstream, the people that are careful, the people that keep their noses clean is actually where all like the decision making process.
I think Charlie Kirk sort of exemplifies this perfectly is why did they target Charlie Kirk?
You know, people made this point after he was shot.
They were like, oh, well, you know, why would they shoot him?
Why would they kill him?
He's not even like far right.
It's like, that's the point because he is the guy that stepped into the mainstream and then pushed it in the correct direction.
That's why they target effective people.
And the SPLC, this is just evidence.
It's like dissident nobodies, and it's just entrapment.
They're entrapping vulnerable people.
Everyone's known this for years, so it's great to finally see some movement on it.
nick sortor
I mean, they were paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to these people.
It's not like they were cutting them a $500 check and telling them to go out and start a riot.
I mean, hundreds of thousands of dollars.
This isn't chump change that they're playing with.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You guys ready to have your minds blown?
unidentified
Frequently.
tim pool
You ready to have your minds blown?
Welcome to Timcast IRL, my friends.
First, Daily Wire, lefty anti-hate group paid white supremacists to plan infamous Charlottesville rally indictment.
Y'all heard the news yesterday, right?
That the SPLC was indicted because they were providing resources to a bunch of white supremacists, including an individual who was an organizer of Unite the Right.
According to the indictment, they were providing the transportation for these people, some of them, to arrive.
How about this one?
Georgetown Law, witness to tragedy, a victim of fake news conspiracy sues Alex Jones as well as others.
And what did this man sue Alex Jones for?
Gilmore is suing Alex Jones, InfoWars, former Congressman Alan West, and others for defamation and intentional infliction of emotional distress for branding him a murderous deep state shill and mobilizing an army of followers to pursue a campaign of harassment and threats against him that continues to this day.
From Sandy Hook to Pizzagate to Charlottesville, Las Vegas and now Portland.
The defendants thrive by inciting devastating real world consequences with the propaganda and lies they publish, said Gilmore.
Today, I'm asking a court to hold them responsible for the personal and professional damage their lies have caused me, and more importantly, to deter them from repeating this dangerous pattern of defamation and intimidation.
Gilmore, a Charlottesville area resident on leave from his career as a Foreign Service officer, had his phone camera running when a neo Nazi James Alex Field Jr. barreled his Dodge Challenger to a crowd of peaceful counter protesters.
After hearing some media characterize the attack as an accident or act of self defense, And fearing that other attacks might follow, Gilmore posted the video.
They say Gilmore was contacted by media outlets to discuss his personal experience and soon became the target of elaborate online conspiracies that place him in the center of a deep state plot to stage the attack and destabilize the Trump administration.
Now, I don't know who this guy is.
I don't know what Alex or anybody else said about him.
The interesting thing, however, as many people are pointing out, Alex Jones made the claim at the time that Charlottesville was staged by the SPLC.
That these people are actors and Democrat shills coming out to make these fake events.
Everybody right now is praising Alex Jones.
Can you put Ian on camera real quick?
And you can see, oh, we can actually see it.
But just behind Ian is an Alex Jones was right jar.
The issue now is, according to the news, Alex Jones and others settled with this person.
I will say this first and foremost I don't know who this guy is.
And if he was falsely maligned and is not involved in whatever the SPLC was doing, then yes.
You defamed some random guy who was just filming.
Don't do that.
However, it is interesting that the lawsuit is predicated upon the theory that the SPLC was organizing and fomenting this conflict, when in fact, now an indictment alleges just that.
ian crossland
I want to bring this to frame because this did get mentioned before.
I think I might shift the frame around so it's in the shot behind us.
We've had this for a while.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
And it's just real quick.
I mean, it's so obvious what's going on here.
Again, the collaboration between the SPLC and the Nevergot Party.
Because think when Joe Biden ran for president, when he announced his campaign for president, What was it predicated on?
Why did he say he decided to run for president?
He cited Charlottesville.
He cited Charlottesville.
He said, That's the reason I ran.
When I saw that happen, I knew I had to run.
And then in his announcement video, it was literally all footage from Charlottesville.
This is all like the SPLC aren't idiots.
We're not just throwing money around in dissident circles, like just trying to defame random people.
No, this is all calculated.
There's collaboration between them and the DNC, and it's abundantly clear.
The entire Biden presidency was predicated on Charlottesville.
tim pool
It'd be the crazy.
We don't know who the informant was for Unite the Right.
It was just F.
I don't think they've released it.
Codename F37.
It'd be really wild if it turns out to be this guy.
nick sortor
I mean, but it brings up a broader fact as well.
It's like these people that go out and, you know, say Alex Jones makes an accusation and then all of a sudden he's being sued for it.
You have to ask yourself it's like a lot of these attorneys, it's like $2,000 an hour, right?
To pay attorneys, civil litigators to represent you when you're suing somebody unless they're doing it on contingency, which actually is less common than people think.
Like, who is funding that?
And so there's a huge.
Rabbit hole that hopefully the FBI is going to go down.
I'm hoping that we've just basically hit the tip of the iceberg at this point and they can dig further down, down, down, down to figure out, okay, who is enabling them to do this via really expensive, high powered lawyers.
ian crossland
Are you saying we're supposed to audit the Federal Reserve?
nick sortor
Absolutely, yes.
ian crossland
I think that when you go down the rabbit hole, you start to first you go through the Federal Reserve and it's like, oh, this part of the realm.
And then you get to the Bank for International Settlements and you're like, oh, God, the money's coming from Switzerland?
unidentified
I didn't know.
ian crossland
Maybe that's my guess.
But I mean, you're asking more granularly, like, who's that money going to that's going to, that's then going to the NGOs, probably.
Like, I'm sure it's laundered like crazy.
unidentified
Who knows?
ian crossland
What do they have?
The Panama Papers, like the Panama Papers, you know, all those banks in Panama.
And like, I don't know, man.
tate brown
Because it's all like, it's all a redistribution racket.
I mean, look at what the Biden administration pulled off.
You talk about PPP, you talk about all these different apparatuses that were set up to extract money effectively from patriots and redistribute it among a lot of newcomers, a lot of people that are sort of in the patronage network for the Democrat Party.
They set the table with Charlottesville.
That set the table.
It stoked racial grievance among Americans.
And it made it quite clear for everyday people that, oh my gosh, this is like there's an insurgency of white nationalists in this country.
I need to head to the ballot box and vote for Joe Biden.
And then what did Joe Biden do?
Just put money right back into the Patriots Network.
He got Katanji Brown Jackson on the Supreme Court.
Like all these different things that we now have to deal with.
You know, everyone talks about, you know, Trump was able to overturn all of his executive orders.
That's true, but there's a lot of systematic damage that Biden did.
It was all calculated, it was all set up.
Again, the SPLC aren't idiots.
You can go look at all these names.
These are like high powered, influential people.
These aren't just like random activists like we're used to seeing with like BLM.
These are people that like know what they're doing.
Again, they're being very cautious, being very prudent, being careful how to get the money moved again from point A to point B. That's how you do it.
You set the table for a Biden presidency.
nick sortor
But so this, the, you know, we're talking about those, the deep state lawyer type thing as well.
Allegedly, okay, let's be clear.
I'll say that to the camera right now.
That's the operating word for everything I'm about to say, allegedly.
I don't know if you just saw today the Blaze Media guy, I guess former Blaze Media guy, the, what was his name?
unidentified
Steve.
nick sortor
Baker, Steve Baker with the Blaze, you know, the one that came out with this big, elaborate story on who the actual Capitol or attempted Capitol bomber at the RNC and the DNC was.
And it was this, I guess, this former Capitol police officer that now works for the CIA or whatever.
There's this firm, Claire Locke, right, that has now decided that they're going to jump in and represent her in a defamation suit against.
Steve Baker and the Blaze.
And then you go back and look to see who else they have represented Dominion voting systems, the president and first lady of France for the Bridget Macron is actually a dude case, Bill Gates.
That's a big one.
And you're like, okay, so again, who is paying for that?
I'm not going to for a second believe that a police officer is able to pay that $2,000 an hour rate.
tate brown
Well, and I want to hit on the point again, and that's so true.
And I want to hit on this point again.
I made it earlier, but it's like people need to remember this.
And like, look out for this in the future.
Is again, there's a reason why the SPLC wasn't paying guys like, I don't know, Matt Walsh or paying guys like Charlie Kirk, because those guys can advance right wing ideas successfully.
And they like single handedly change the zeitgeist, they single handedly move the Overton window, move the mainstream to where they want it to be.
Again, they paid off these kind of dissident guys because, again, they're not threatened by them.
You wouldn't give money to someone you're threatened by, you would give money to people that you're not threatened by.
And like, seriously, like base guy number 454, who like spurred on Twitter all day.
That's not threatening to the mainstream in any way.
We just saw evidence of that.
They're paying them directly because, again, it ferments an environment that is actually bad for the right wing to actually succeed, for it to actually thrive.
And that's why, if you go to the SPLC, you'll see the guys that are actually movers and shakers are listed on the website as target number one.
And the SPLC is moving money to sort of apparatchiks that actually harm those guys, that target those guys' family, that take pot shots at them if you follow the money in a lot of situations.
So it's very obvious what's going on here.
And again, it's really great, you know, let's see a super base guy on Twitter, you know, drop a truth nuke or whatever, but it's like, These guys aren't actually threatening to the mainstream order.
They're not threatening the liberal regime as it stands.
It sounds kitschy and corny to say, but guys like Charlie Kirk were effective at doing so.
That's why they were put in the crosshairs of the SPLC, and that's why they weren't getting paid off by them.
nick sortor
And there's actually much bigger ROI than just power that SPLC got by allegedly going in and helping to foment the Charlottesville rally.
Their fundraising after Charlottesville went up tens of millions of dollars.
Yeah.
So power, the narrative, and money.
I mean, great ROI for them.
It all makes sense.
tate brown
And a president out of it.
nick sortor
And a president, yeah.
tate brown
So, I mean, it's a puppet president at that.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Well, that was the best part it was a puppet president.
Guess who was staffing a lot of the Biden administration?
We all know now that the Biden administration was actually sort of being run and operated by a lot of his staff.
A lot of those staffers came out of activist networks.
We know this.
You can go to their LinkedIn's and look at their job history.
Like, I'm not making this up.
Like, again, they came in the activism world, again, the NGO, the nonprofit world, and then jumped into the White House.
And the PPO office during the Biden administration was literally rubber stamping activists.
That comes into the administration.
We're talking like labor bureau.
We're talking USDA.
Like everywhere you looked in the Biden administration, if you go through their LinkedIn's again, and I'm not saying this like, you know, harm these, you shouldn't do anything to these people.
I'm just saying, look at their career history.
They came out of these activist networks.
That's all this was, is one giant patronage network for the left.
And honestly, the reason I am not super angry to some degree is because we should be doing that.
We should be creating patronage networks for our guys.
And the Trump administration is doing a great job of that.
But like, let's put this in, let's kick this into overdrive.
If we're going to clear out the deep state, let's fill it with patriots who have the Best interests for this country in mind.
tim pool
Let's pull up this.
We got it from mccormick.house.gov.
Hey, there's a congressman who's trying to make DC a square again.
And I'm actually in favor of it because Arlington should have never been separated from DC to begin with.
However, I will also stress this will give the deep state the federal government.
So, the big counter to what happened in Virginia, where they basically turned one small jurisdiction into five congressional districts, eliminating four Republican seats, many people have said, okay, first, a court struck it down.
But if they want to play hardball, then why don't we turn DC into a square and drag Arlington back into DC, eliminating that part of Virginia?
unidentified
Excuse me.
tim pool
However, I will stress this.
As much as we have Congressman McCormick here proposing it, as well as many others, that would mean that all of those Fairfax County deep state individuals would now be residents of Washington, D.C. They'd live in a federal jurisdiction.
I don't know that we want to allow them to fight for representation to the federal government directly, but I'd still argue functionally it's the right thing to do outside of any culture war issue.
tate brown
I think people shouldn't put too much stake in this.
And I mean, I'd love to see this.
I mean, I understand the counterarguments, but I think this would actually solve a lot of our problems with the current situation.
Again, I wouldn't put too much stake in this because there's two things that you could do to make DC square again.
Is one, again, through congressional approval, because if you want to move state borders, you have to get congressional approval.
Not going to happen, especially if we get spanked in the midterms.
Okay, well, what's the other option?
Trump issues an executive order, Virginia rebuffs, and then we use the DOJ to go after Virginia.
That's going to go to the Supreme Court.
Again, the Supreme Court's not going to uphold a DC square again.
So I'm just like, I think it's fun to, but the reality, we should be more angry at the GOP.
Even take a look at cleaning up their mess is what really the scandal is because I don't think there's really any chance that this could happen.
nick sortor
So, the I agree initially, DC was when they created the federal district, it was 100 square miles.
Yeah, it's now down to like 60 something square miles, and that's because the Congress.
And there is an argument to be made that when Congress did this back in the 1800s, that it doesn't pass the constitutional muster for giving up part of the federal district, but it has never been challenged in court.
So, yeah, that's exactly how it wow.
And that's the way it should be right now.
It's still on the Maryland side, it's still the same.
But on the Virginia side, they ceded it over to.
tim pool
Yeah, how does that make sense?
ian crossland
That would be the city of D.C. or the district.
So then they could, because in D.C., you're allowed to have.
tim pool
And notice how it's lined with Washington monuments.
tate brown
It's true.
ian crossland
Yeah, it probably would be.
tim pool
That would be base.
Yeah, you'd see obelisks just all around there.
tate brown
If you can go and they're just like, you can find these monuments.
They're still there.
tim pool
Oh, they're really still there?
tate brown
Yeah, look it up.
There's like little stone pillars.
ian crossland
George Washington.
Washington Monuments Mystery 00:15:15
unidentified
Really?
carter banks
Yeah, yeah, there's stone pillars.
Interesting.
tate brown
The thing is, the Supreme Court's going to give us a heat check on this.
nick sortor
They're usually in areas, though, where you really don't want to go.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
They're in the hood.
tate brown
They're all in the hood.
They're in Anacostia.
unidentified
Are they?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
They're still there.
tate brown
Now, the Supreme Court's going to give us a heat check on this.
tim pool
I was saying, like, gigantic.
unidentified
I thought they were going to be very.
tate brown
We'll get a heat check for the Supreme Court on birthright citizenship because that also pertains to slavery related issues.
So, again, if they rule in favor of that, let's push with this because the whole reason Alexandria and Arlington were ced back to Virginia was because Polk was trying to.
Basically, a pass abolition.
tim pool
I don't like that guy.
He gave back Mexico.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tate brown
And he was trying to ban slavery in D.C.
So that was kind of the concession he had to make was to give basically Alexander and Arlington back to D.C.
So the Supreme Court's going to give us a heat check with birthright citizenship.
If they're saying no, like some stuff pertains to the slavery era and then not, we're actually going to get a little closer to determining if this could even be viable to make D.C. square again.
But I just don't think there's a chance in Haiti's anymore.
ian crossland
No, I don't think so.
It would mean that you made Arlington like federal jurisdiction, which would mean you'd see National Guard.
On the street corners in Arlington.
I don't think the citizens of that city want to go back to that.
tate brown
Well, it's not up to them.
It's up to how hard Virginia would fight it, and they would fight it pretty hard as long as Bamberg is in power.
You know, you could have done that.
You could have done this when Youngkin was in charge.
It actually was a little bit more viable, but no, the DOJ is going to have to go after the state of Virginia.
You're losing that in the Supreme Court.
There's not a chance.
I don't know.
Maybe there's some lawyers in the crowd that have like a constitutional argument I didn't think about, but pretty much everyone I've talked to in the legal realm has said, yeah, it's a pretty open and shut case.
To your point, Nick, no one's even tried to challenge it in court because it just hasn't been.
tim pool
So for those that don't know, Under Polk, we won this massive war against Mexico and basically took everything over.
Then he negotiated with them to take everything up to California and then have the Rio Grande be the barrier.
But we could have actually taken large chunks of Mexico.
But so, depending on who you ask, they'll give you different answers.
I watched a documentary about it where the American people largely were ambivalent and were like, and then he decided we're just, we don't want it.
So we're going to draw the Rio Grande and that's it.
And the war is over.
And then we could have had more.
tate brown
Yeah, and that would have been an interesting situation because that would have given the Confederacy quite a bit more resources in their war.
Who knows what timeline we would be in right now?
Well, yeah.
They probably, to say the relationship between the Southerners and the Mexicans would have been frosty would be an understatement.
tim pool
You couldn't have blockaded the Confederacy if they had more Mexican territory.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Texas only joined the Confederacy due to proximity.
At least that's one of the historical arguments.
And then the North staged a blockade on Southern ports, which they could have shifted either in the Gulf or to the Pacific.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tate brown
I mean, it would have just been a mess because you would have incorporated millions of Mexicans into the country at the time.
I mean, you know, some people think the country's always been 20% Mexican.
No, that's actually a really recent thing.
The amount of people who the border crossed was actually very minimal.
Most Mexican Americans now can trace their lineage to the last few decades of more recent arrivals.
In addition to that, Polk, I think he wrote this actually, is that, or said this, is that occupying Mexico City would have been a nightmare.
I mean, the amount of guerrilla resistance you would have seen in Mexico City would have just been, I mean, it's totally, I mean, have you seen Mexico City now?
It's already an exceptionally violent place.
Could you imagine when they're angry?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Actually, Mexico City is pretty nice.
You know, when you say Mexico City is violent, it's true in the sense that Chicago is also a very violent place.
tate brown
Yeah, but Mexico City, the cops are super corrupt, too.
That's the biggest problem I've heard from Westerners that live there the cops shake you down all the time.
They're more scared of the cops than they are the locals.
tim pool
I mean, I can only speak for personal experience, so you're probably right.
But I would say my experience in Mexico City has been they treat wealthy Americans like royalty.
And I don't mean wealthy, like in my sense.
I mean, like a middle class American is wealthy when you go to Mexico City.
So you go to the finest restaurants.
And the attitude that I've found and the people that I've worked with have found is cartels and police will flay a man alive for attacking a tourist.
Because the story goes there was this somewhere in the Yucatan, there was like a resort town with a casino, and two dudes, I think they kidnapped, raped, and murdered some women, some young women.
And then all the tourists stopped.
State Department issued a warning saying, don't go here, it's dangerous.
So the cartel caught these guys, and I believe they flayed them in public.
Because after these two dumb guys murdered these women, the cartel lost $100 million a year in all the tourism money.
So they were like, we're going to make an example of anybody who would hurt a wealthy American coming here.
And so, if those aren't familiar with flaying, I assume many of you, they peeled their skin off in front of the public.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick sortor
Well, didn't you see, what was it, Puerto Vallarta?
Like, not even that long ago, where it was like this, people were saying, oh, it's going to be the cartels are about to, you know, bomb the entire city of Puerto Vallarta at this point because one of their leaders ended up being killed in a raid or something.
Like, that would be a very bad idea for them.
And it's like, that's not in their interest, right?
So it's, I know a lot of people were pushing that, but that was.
tate brown
We'll really see because the World Cup coming up this summer, they're playing seven or eight games in Mexico, in Guadalajara, I think Monterey, and Mexico City.
I mean, the police there are going to have to be.
On lockdown.
If any of these cartels are wanting to send a message, this would be the time to do it.
The interesting thing about Mexico is because of its proximity to us, we, I think, correctly so view it as quite a rough place.
But on the global scale, Mexico is actually quite developed when you compare it to Mexico City.
tim pool
Oh, dude, Mexico City is based.
And it's just funny when you watch a movie and Mexico is always sepia toned.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like clearly you've never been to Mexico City where it's got bright neon lights downtown.
tate brown
And it's also colder than a lot of American cities.
tim pool
Exactly.
It's elevated and cold.
And in the summer, when it's like 90 degrees in Chicago, it's like 70 in Mexico City.
Because it's elevated.
And they have Buffalo Wild Wings.
So spare me, Mexico City is based and fun.
ian crossland
Is it the old Aztec capital?
tate brown
Yeah.
unidentified
Tucho Haca?
Is that how it is?
tate brown
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
But we don't say that anymore.
That name is Mexico.
tate brown
Mexico City.
Ciudad de Mexico.
tim pool
Ciudad de.
tate brown
The Roma neighborhood there is lovely.
I mean, like, there's some really nice places.
But the thing is, the rent there is getting driven really high because a lot of Americans that work remote are moving down to Mexico City.
unidentified
Wow.
tate brown
And there was this video that went viral a few years ago.
There's a nativist sentiment, like, getting stoked in Mexico City because a lot of Mexican people are like, What are all these foreigners doing here?
unidentified
Get them out of here.
Look at these foreigners.
tate brown
I'm like, all right, kind of base, but no, at the same time, I don't know.
I'm split.
unidentified
I agree with them.
tate brown
I'm split.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like Americans are going down there and asking for tacos, and when they give them soft shell tortillas, because they don't have hard shell tortillas, they're like, I want Taco Bell.
And then they're just like, What?
tate brown
That'd be me.
unidentified
That would be me.
tim pool
You're like, I would like a hard shell taco with cheddar cheese.
They would go, We have neither of those.
ian crossland
I just need corn.
unidentified
They have that.
ian crossland
Give me corn.
unidentified
They have that.
tate brown
Burritos, Logos, taco, and they'll have that.
tim pool
And tortillas are thicker down there.
The other thing people don't understand is that Mexican food, we call it Mexican food.
It's Tex Mex.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
You go to Mexican food and you order Mexican food, you're going to get chicken and rice.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And then you're like, I want a burrito.
They're going to be like, You want a little donkey?
unidentified
Right.
tate brown
And the people there are thicker too.
They have a higher obesity rate in the United States.
A lot of people don't know that.
And in addition to that, another funny thing about Mexico is you remember that craze for a while where people were like, you got to buy Mexican Coke.
You know, Mexican Coke is the one that's got sugar in it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
It's the only other country on planet Earth that also used high fructose corn syrup as a sweetener.
People were importing a bunch of it.
I mean, some of it was cane sugar, but a lot of people were importing cans, like in California, and they'd get it and they're like, oh.
tim pool
Because it's the Coke in a bottle that's specifically manufactured with cane sugar.
If you go to Mexico City and grab a bottle of Coke, it's high fructose corn syrup.
Yeah.
There will be a plastic bottle in Spanish.
You'll grab it.
L high fructose corn syrup, oh, yeah.
tate brown
But you know where you can get it with cane sugar?
unidentified
Canada.
tate brown
So we should have been importing Canadian Coca Cola the whole time, you know.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
tim pool
I don't trust Canadians.
tate brown
I think people got confused ordering Mexican Coke, you know, Los Angeles, some Bender.
tim pool
Snow back offensive.
Is that racist?
tate brown
I don't think so.
nick sortor
Snow Mexicans, they really get mad at me.
I want to call them.
tate brown
Yeah, people call them like frost monkeys.
I love Canadians.
tim pool
It's allowed because they're white.
tate brown
And I love Canadians.
Like, I'm one of the few people in the conservative commentariat that like backs up Canadians.
But that is really funny.
tim pool
I will give them poutine.
And I don't mean generic poutine.
I mean like legit poutine restaurants where they got all the fix ins and there's different flavors.
Like the way I would describe it, having I hung out in Montreal quite a bit and sometimes Toronto.
Poutine is like saying nachos.
You know, so it's like if you tell someone nachos, they're imagining tortilla chips with cheese on them.
But you can get like barbacoa nachos.
You can get jalapeno and sour cream or salsa or pulled pork.
That's what poutine is like.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Poutine's the vessel.
tate brown
And I kind of have to have a go off moment too.
This is my gripe with people that just like dunk on Canada all day it's because it's safe.
It's not threatening to like liberals at all to like make fun of Canadians or French people or British people because they're also white people.
That's fair game.
But people will like chess beat all day about Canada or Britain.
And then when India comes up, all of a sudden they have nothing to say whatsoever.
And it's like, if you ask people in middle America which country is like, which nationality is like actively destroying their standard of living, they'll point to India.
But yeah, people will just like go off all day about Canadians.
And then like as soon as like a third world country comes up, nothing to say.
nick sortor
Have you seen the population, the demographic makeup of Canada recently?
tate brown
It is getting, you know, to the point where the location feature on Twitter is kind of useless because I'm like, I'm thinking debating a Canadian, but I'm not sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick sortor
No, it's wild.
And that's why I honestly think that we should be, uh, After we get this southern border wall done, maybe we try a northern border wall because I mean, don't let anybody in at this point.
It's wild.
The, the, uh, how far down the country has gone in such a short amount of time.
Uh, actual Canadians are going to be a minority sooner than later.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
They're, they're, there is no, there's, there is no Canadian.
unidentified
Remember?
tim pool
That's the, that's the ethos.
That is the mentality of the Canadians.
They just gave back that land in, uh, British Columbia.
Remember that?
There was a, there's a bunch of, uh, white Canadians who lived in this land.
And Native Americans sued, saying that's their ancestral fishing, springtime fishing land.
And a court ruled correct.
The land belongs to them.
And now the people who live there actually live in a Native American reservation.
tate brown
That's just what happens when you have like undisturbed Anglo neuroticism.
That's what you get a country like Canada, where America, like we had some other groups come in to like keep all the Anglos from going, you know, too introspective.
But when you leave them all alone up there and it's that cold, they start like really overthinking things.
And the next thing you know, they're like, we should bring 10 million Indians in.
Like, let's just see what happens.
nick sortor
You know, what's really disturbing is the amount of Western countries that have been psy-oped into hating themselves.
tate brown
Yeah, literally.
nick sortor
Like, you go over and you're seeing videos increasingly come out of places like the UK.
I don't know if you saw this video the other day with the wall where this third-worlder was.
He didn't want to climb over the wall, so he decided to start destroying the wall.
tim pool
I don't think he wanted to climb over it.
I think he was just breaking it.
tate brown
That was like a Fortnite moment, you know?
Just harvesting something.
ian crossland
Why won't my pickaxe work?
tate brown
Yeah.
ian crossland
Why is it taking so long?
tate brown
You see Restore Britain's ad where their entire ad was just the wall just rebuilt?
nick sortor
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Brilliant, brilliant.
unidentified
Awesome.
nick sortor
But I mean, like, how long until people are finally like, okay, you know what?
Maybe this was a bad idea.
tate brown
Well, there's still liberals in South Africa.
unidentified
Listen, listen.
tim pool
The issue is this we here all right now agree that we like being on Tim Cast IRL.
If for some reason we made the mistake of inviting in seven people who are liberals and hate this show, we may then recognize it was a mistake to invite them in as they smash the cameras.
Then when we all say, let us vote to remove these people, they look at us and say, and who and you and what army?
And we're going to be like, well, it's our house.
Not anymore.
It's not, there's more of us than you.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick sortor
And that's why Nigel Farage flipped.
That's why all of a sudden he's like, you know what?
We're going to embrace all the Muslims and such.
tate brown
So, what are your MPs from Bangladesh?
unidentified
Big deal.
Yeah.
tate brown
You're like, what?
unidentified
What are we doing here?
tim pool
I mean, is British even really a word?
tate brown
Yeah, literally.
I know.
It's just like, it's totally ridiculous.
And then to your point, there's no limiting principle on liberalism.
Like, look at South Africa.
There's still white liberals in South Africa as bad as things have gotten.
They literally are just PSYOP to your point.
They're literally, they have the cognitive dissonance among these types of people.
This is why I make the case that democracy inherently is flawed because, again, people just don't have a sense of self preservation.
They don't understand, again, how to maintain things that were built for them, how to leave the place better than they found it.
They just don't have the propensity.
I'd like to say it stems from something more esoteric, like they have deep self hatred and they're taking that on their people.
I think these people are just actual, genuinely believers that the system will work.
I think it might be as simple as that.
nick sortor
Is it not because they're trying to repent because they're like, oh, you're such a heart?
Like Germany, for example, right?
These Germans.
Even the young Germans are taught that, okay, you know what, you still need to make up for what your grandfather did in World War II.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick sortor
And so you need to bring in all these third worlders and make up for it.
ian crossland
Probably because the liberal economic order did win after World War II and just stole the world's wealth, basically set up banks and everything.
So I guess maybe there is that, like, okay, we do need to give back some of it.
But the way they do it, like, the problem with liberalism is you're having your friends over for a party.
I meet you for the first night, maybe.
You come with Tim to the party, and he's like, hey, my buddy Nick's here.
And I'm like, oh, hey, we meet.
And you're like, come on in, man.
Then liberalism is like, okay, now the next guy comes to the party, he's like, got seven dudes behind him, and they're looking at the ground.
You don't even know if they're not speaking.
And then you're like, come on in, I guess, and you don't know who they are.
That's the problem with liberalism on fucking steroids.
So that's what's happened is that people are like, well, if he's with you, I mean, I can't turn him away.
And that's the thing.
Like, at some point, you know, the cops come in, they're like, where are those dudes?
tate brown
Literally, someone will be walking through New York City, and then they'll see, you know, like an Indian restaurant, and they're like, Wow, I love Indian food.
I'm so glad these people are all here.
And then, if they see like a crime perpetrated by an Indian person, I'm just using any third world country in this example, they will say, Well, that's because of failed Republican policies.
Like, the only reason they're behaving like that is because my system hasn't quite been flushed out.
So, they will accept like the one, I guess, upside, which is, Wow, great, you have like more food options.
And then, everything that's bad that comes out of that is because, again, these chuds are holding things up.
They're holding up progress.
If we could finally get them out of the way, then we'll have our Obama, like wholesome chungus, you know, post racial democracy.
And then it's just not the case.
I mean, it's not the case.
nick sortor
So I don't know if you saw today Chris Murphy, who went out on the floor, the same guy that said that the story ended up not being real, the story about Iran running the U.S. Navy.
tim pool
Oh, right, the ghost ships.
nick sortor
Yeah, the ghost ships.
Not real.
And so he was on the House floor or Senate floor today saying, you know, complaining that the Trump administration wants to send back a thousand Afghan quote unquote refugees and not send back, actually send them to the Congo.
I mean, I guess you can go home or you can go to the Congo.
Those are your two options.
And, you know, I can't get over this fact.
It's like if I give you a bowl of jelly beans, 50 of them, and one of those jelly beans is laced with cyanide, are you going to eat any of the jelly beans out of the jar?
No, of course not.
And so he's trying to make the argument that even though, yes, there was one Afghan refugee that we brought in without any sort of vetting, and he, you know, he may or may not have killed a National Guard soldier in Washington, D.C., but, you know, the rest of them need to stay anyway.
The Jelly Bean Paradox 00:02:51
tim pool
I'm not a fan of that argument, the poisoned MMs argument, because it can be applied in any circumstance of nuance.
So, you could say, you know, look, your kids might play outside.
When you were little, you played outside, right?
I would go out and ride my bike until the streetlights turned on and then you come back home.
Now, there was a story where a kid was walking to a Dollar General one mile and his parents got arrested for it.
And they said, your kid is unattended.
The kid was like 10 years old.
And people are freaking out, being like, this is insane.
Kids need to be able to go out.
Yeah, but I'll tell you this.
Not everybody, not every stranger your kid's gonna meet is gonna be a pedophile or criminal, but some of them are.
Now imagine you had a bowl of MMs, a hundred of them, and only one was poisoned.
Go ahead, take a handful.
Are you gonna let your kid go play outside ever again?
Nope.
See, that's why I reject that argument.
nick sortor
Well, but I would say that that is a totally different argument than what I'm making, though.
These people do not serve any sort of benefit to our country.
tim pool
That's a different argument.
nick sortor
What I'm saying is that we don't need to bring them here at all.
tim pool
That's fine.
unidentified
Never should have been.
tim pool
I'm saying using the bowl of MMs analogy is, it's used by feminists.
It's used by like woke for every single circumstance ever.
Yeah, they say the same thing.
ian crossland
If I invited 15 people over and one of them broke stuff and I kicked everybody out, that would be crazy.
nick sortor
I'd probably do that too.
You come, people are coming over.
tim pool
There's a no, I actually, I actually, yeah, I agree with that one.
carter banks
Never have people over.
tim pool
I'd be like, maybe I shouldn't have get togethers because people disrespect my stuff.
ian crossland
I might think that, but I would, and I wouldn't, but I wouldn't bring the other 14 people because that one guy, yeah, but no, I'd be bringing 15 guys over.
tate brown
One of the guys is smashing up Steve.
He'd be like, I don't know which one's smashing up Steve.
Yeah, more importantly.
tim pool
The better way to describe it is if you invited 15 people over for a get together and one of them smashed your stuff, you'd be upset and say, maybe I shouldn't have get togethers.
It's actually much easier than doing that.
As you pointed out with Smash Em Up Steve, don't invite over a group of people called the Wrecking Bros, famous for going and smashing up people's houses during parties.
ian crossland
So Steve gets deported.
tim pool
So be a little bit discriminatory in your invitations for your get togethers.
carter banks
I'd kick out him.
ian crossland
Smash Em Up Steve would have to go.
But the other 14 guys, I'd be like, well, I don't know.
I'd be scared.
So my.
tim pool
Let me put it like this.
I'd be like, I got to get all of them out.
It's a really easy situation.
Don't take a handful of MMs if one's poisoned.
Run them through your poison detector before eating it.
nick sortor
But we didn't do that.
tim pool
But we did not do that.
nick sortor
So they got to go.
tim pool
So when I invite 15 people over, I ask them, are you a part of the quiet and peaceful brothers or the wrecking brothers?
We're wrecking bros.
You can leave.
tate brown
Yeah, the vetting was quite, and it's still this way.
Like, for example, do you apply to an ESTA to come to the United States?
One of the questions on there is, do you plan to commit terrorism?
We got them.
It's like, dang it.
Oh, oh.
Do you plan on committing any like mass genocide?
You're like, it reminds me of that.
You got me.
Future People Conspiracy 00:04:50
tim pool
You know that old trope where it's like, if a cop's trying to buy drugs, they have to tell you if they're a cop, otherwise it's entrapment.
It's just literally not true and it's never been true.
There's that movie, I can't remember which one it was, but the actor, I think his name is like, was it DJ Qualls or whatever?
He's buying drugs and the guy's like, are you a cop?
And he's like, no, I'm not a cop.
Well, you got to tell me if you are.
And he's like, he was like, right, I'm not a cop.
And it was, okay, here's the drugs.
He's like, freeze, don't move, I'm a cop.
unidentified
He's like, what?
tim pool
And he's like, bro, it's not a movie.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, it was a movie, but you know.
nick sortor
But I mean, so I know we, people have been probably, I mean, this was years ago now, the Afghan withdrawal, where they brought over all these people on C 17s, just plane loads full.
They were actually overloaded with people coming over from Afghanistan.
tim pool
Don't you remember those planes were inflatable?
You don't remember that?
nick sortor
Well, the, and so we know that a lot of these people were not vetted.
That's already been proven.
DHS has come out and admitted that at this point, that That these people were not proper.
There was no way to properly vet them.
I mean, that was a lie from the start.
But when you look at these, the millions and millions of people that came across the southern border, what was the first thing they did when they crossed over the border?
They ditched their IDs so that you wouldn't know what their actual names were.
There are millions of them that are here that we don't even know the names of.
They just make up names.
tim pool
They were claiming that in the videos of Afghanistan, these were big inflatable fake planes to make it look like something was going on when it wasn't.
It's like the fall of cyber.
Doesn't the bottom one look inflatable?
tate brown
Like the Afghanistan, they're like, okay, we're supplying our base.
We got to make sure we have our inflatable cargo jet right there.
Just in case we got to withdraw and they try to jump on the plane.
unidentified
Boom up, boy.
ian crossland
Did they fake the Afghan withdrawal?
Is this like the moon landing?
That's that.
The whole country.
We're still there.
tim pool
We covered this on the show.
ian crossland
I wasn't here when we talked about it.
tim pool
Yes, you were.
ian crossland
You were on airplanes.
This is the first I've heard that.
tim pool
You were on the show as we talked about this, bro, in 2021.
ian crossland
That's possible.
tim pool
I'm pretty sure you were like.
Full time in the co host chair when we were covering this.
ian crossland
Possible, but I'm pretty sure.
I don't remember it.
tim pool
There's a lot of things you probably don't remember.
tate brown
Planes are pressurized, so they're all inflatable in theory.
tim pool
That's correct.
Let's jump to the story.
We got major, major news here.
So, you know the story about the now, what is it, 13 scientists who have disappeared?
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Bro, something.
nick sortor
Another one that came out today or something?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah.
I think there's another one.
It's just there's so many I've lost count of which one's new and which one's not.
So, I'm going to tack onto this.
I wonder if these people aren't actually dead.
I wonder if they were recruited.
The story with this woman is that she was found dead of a self inflicted gunshot wound.
However, according to conspiracy theorists, because I don't know if this is true, she was quickly cremated and the father just stopped talking about it, which sounds pretty crazy and sounds like, okay.
She had texted a friend, check the story out, saying, let me read you the quote.
She said, If you see any report that I killed myself, I most definitely did not.
If you see any report that I overdosed, I most definitely did not.
If you see any report that I killed anyone else, I most definitely did not.
She was texting a friend this one month before she allegedly killed herself.
Then, according to, I say this according to Kidspace Theorists because from the news, this is what we have.
Then, from threads and independent researchers, they said she was quickly cremated by her father and he just dropped the subject.
He doesn't talk about it.
He says there's nothing to see here.
And maybe that's the case.
I don't want to drag a dad over his dead daughter or anything like that.
However, if you were going to recruit someone into black operations, They would die and then be cremated and their bodies gone.
Take a look at this.
Colin Rogg tweets A NASA nuclear scientist was found deceased in his Tesla after colliding with a guardrail, leaving his body so burned that he was completely unrecognizable, according to Fox News.
29 year old Joshua LeBlanc, who worked on nuclear propulsion projects, died in a fiery crash of the summer.
His family at the time said they feared he had been abducted when he left his phone and wallet at home.
Every one of these stories has involved an individual who, for no reason, left their phone and wallet before disappearing.
unidentified
Dude, this is epic.
ian crossland
This is like an epic story.
This is like a movie.
And it's, the movies are, they come from real life where the government will come and say, we need your services.
It's not, we're not asking.
And they'll do whatever within the bounds of potential to make it real.
tim pool
The fact that their bodies are like cremated instantly or unrecognizable, gone, that these people disappeared and their bodies, Unknown and all of them, minus 10 is all of them left their phones and wallets before disappearing.
Which, bro, you walk outside without your phone or your wallet and you're going, oh crap, what did I do?
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
And that makes them untrackable.
tim pool
What I think.
So, one of the conspiracy theories, I tweeted about this.
It's so funny because people are nuts.
Hollow Earth Theories 00:15:41
tim pool
But one of the conspiracy theories is that this is actually people from the future.
Not kidding.
People actually think this.
They think that the reason we don't see time travelers.
So, here's a theory.
If time travel is possible, we would see time travelers because.
They'd be traveling all throughout time.
Maybe we don't invent time travel for a thousand years, but a thousand years from now, they'll travel back to now.
So the conspiracy theory is, and there's so many of these, but I love them.
unidentified
I love them.
tim pool
Future people came back in time and are fomenting their own future.
So with advanced technology, we don't detect them.
The average person does not see them because they know with time travel where to travel to that no one will find them.
They can literally look in the time record and be like, if we go to this abandoned warehouse, no one will know.
Then, with advanced technology, they take over the government.
Then, Dan Bongino gets in there and he's all bright eyed and his eyebrows are blinking and he's got a big smile on his face as he walks in the DOJ and says, It's time to expose Epstein.
And then, a guy from the future appears and he hovers over to Bongino and says, No.
And then Dan's like, I'm kidding, by the way.
nick sortor
But didn't he say at one point when he was on Fox, he was sitting inside of the Hoover building saying that he has seen things that has changed him forever, you know, things like that?
I mean, I think that was one of the arguments that were made, like something paranormal or.
tim pool
I'm hoping that it's greater Earth because I love that idea.
The idea that the seven continents are surrounded by an ice wall on the planet and Earth is actually three times bigger.
ian crossland
It might be like, I think time is a racket.
I think it's a psyop.
You know, it's one way humans use to coordinate movement, but these entities are always here, whether they see the entire battlefield, the entire threat.
So, like, they might be taking orders from another species that is throughout time.
tim pool
How crazy would it be if, like, extra temporal entities.
Came to humans and they were like, We are going to destroy all of mankind.
And then Epstein and Hillary Clinton were like, Stop!
You can't destroy humanity.
And they were like, Then cut a deal with us.
You must deliver us children to eat.
And Epstein cries and he's like, No, I'll never do it.
And they're like, Then all of Earth will be destroyed.
And he's like, Stop, fine, I'll bring you children.
ian crossland
He was like, No, I'll blackmail every one of them.
unidentified
Let's get them.
tim pool
He blackmails all the extraterrestrial beings.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
And now they're like, We can't release the five.
tim pool
Hillary Clinton, she's like, No.
And then she's like, Jeffrey, you'll be hated forever.
And he's like, But I'll do it to save humanity.
unidentified
I do what I must.
nick sortor
But did you see today there was another paranormal researcher, our UFO researcher, that specifically tweeted in 2022, December 11th, 2022 I plan on living, not suicidal at all, just concerned about David Wilcock.
unidentified
Wow.
nick sortor
I plan on living, not suicidal at all, just concerned about what happens when you prove God is real.
And today, police say he killed himself.
ian crossland
This was a sad one.
I think they say he was standing outside his house with a weapon, and when the police approached him, he used the weapon on himself.
tim pool
Yeah, but was he going, I can't stop!
ian crossland
I'm being controlled!
I'm doing this to my friends.
tim pool
Extra temporal beings could move you.
ian crossland
Bro, David, I was sad about him on the drive over because he was kind of a well known, under the radar fringe researcher talked about it.
tim pool
I don't know what's really crazy is Jeremy Reese was on the call with Amy Eskridge when she was talking about how they've already discovered anti grav tech.
ian crossland
He actually texted me like five days ago.
He's like, There's a lot going on.
tim pool
We should bring him back.
ian crossland
Yeah, let's get it.
tim pool
He hasn't been on for a couple of years.
ian crossland
He was on in 2021, I think.
Yeah, something like that.
Now it's prescient.
I'll tell him.
tim pool
Oh, we got to bring him on.
Yeah.
Yeah, the alien scientist?
ian crossland
Yeah.
Jeremy Riss, the alien scientist on YouTube.
He's been doing deep, dark research into dark things for about 16 years.
The guys, he inspired me in 2010 to get more involved.
But I mean, dark things like.
tim pool
Ashton Forbes was checking her too years ago.
ian crossland
And that'd be fun to get them in a room together because they've had beef and they're both smart guys.
tim pool
And then we.
unidentified
Disappear.
Yeah.
tim pool
But I just want to make sure.
Listen, listen.
If there's any future people out there, or lizard people, or Tartarians, or Atlanteans, or aliens, or whatever, it was all tape.
ian crossland
But the question is if you got the call, the government's like, we need you now, would you go?
tim pool
Actually, the CEO of the company isn't Canary M. Burns.
unidentified
Canary M.
Yeah.
CM.
ian crossland
Because, okay, once you go.
tim pool
You guys are just so uncultured.
You get a pass because you're like 17.
ian crossland
I think he was talking about The Simpsons.
carter banks
I have not seen all of them either.
ian crossland
Do they let these scientists out later?
I think they do.
And it's like.
tim pool
Come on, you guys.
The CEO of the Springfield Nuclear Power Plant was Mr. Burns' canary.
So that when he got in legal trouble, he said, actually, it's not me.
It's the canary.
tate brown
It's genius.
tim pool
Canary M. Burns.
unidentified
So, okay.
tim pool
So when they look for CM Burns, they're like, that's not me.
ian crossland
I wonder if the next phase of life is working for the government.
And I don't want to.
unidentified
Oh, that sounds horrible.
No.
ian crossland
I want to help humanity.
Obviously, government's a great way to do that.
tate brown
The post office is hiring.
ian crossland
Post office?
I mean, like doing deep quantum teleportation technology and stuff.
tate brown
My package, I don't know where it goes, and then it appears on my friend's portal.
carter banks
It could be a quantum thing.
tate brown
Amazon, I don't watch them.
I don't know how it works.
I order it and it shows up.
It could be going through some sort of anti gravity.
ian crossland
Oh, they're in a race to do anti gravity right now.
tate brown
To get packages delivered.
tim pool
They already have it.
unidentified
I wonder.
tim pool
That's what Amy Eskrish was saying.
They already have independently discovered it.
And apparently, the story is she was offered black ops.
They came to her and said, come work for us.
And she was like, no, we're going to make this public.
ian crossland
Yeah, you can't.
That's the problem.
There are some things you just don't make public.
It's like the Manhattan Project.
You really want to help the world, don't give the Chinese access to anti gravity technology.
tim pool
Yeah, but it's because the greater.
Okay, joking aside about Greater Earth, because it's a fun conspiracy theory.
And the reason why it's so fun is that it means there are many more places to go.
You know, like you don't got to go to Mars.
You can actually just go to the other side of the planet.
There's more continents there.
But outside of that, the general idea is just that there is an overarching cabal government that we are chickens in a chicken coop to them.
China, Russia, Iran, all of this is meaningless.
There is a global power structure that actually runs the show.
And if you defy their technological supremacy, they kill you.
ian crossland
That's what Alex Jones said is called the shadow government.
I asked him the difference.
What's the difference between the deep state and the shadow government?
I was like, well, deep states, you know, we all know what the deep state is the bureaucracy that tries to run.
The shadow government's in place in case of thermonuclear war, everything goes down.
There is a government ready to go, according to Alex.
nick sortor
But don't you think, like, look, I know people, I'll wear a NASA hat every once in a while, right?
And I went to the Artemis II launch, and people are like, you know, this is all fake, right?
I'm like, look, seeing the inside of the government, I honestly think these people are much too incompetent to be able to fake all of this stuff.
It's actually more likely that they did just orbit the moon.
And come back, then they be able to successfully fake it.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's true.
tate brown
I know.
Yeah.
I mean, like, if you go back and look at the initial Apollo missions, the people that were like the most vocally, you know, angry and speculated it didn't even happen were like Soviet sympathizers.
And I'm not trying to like go full McCarthy here, but also it was like leftists in America.
They like were furious.
Do you remember all the signs they would hold at like civil rights marches and they'd be like, all this money for rockets, but no money for like black youth?
And it's like, I think that's kind of like what drove a lot of it.
nick sortor
We've given plenty of money to black youth, but yeah, I know.
It's a different time.
tate brown
And I always think, like, the, you know, again, I'll play hardball here.
I think the most of the shadowy government stuff is kind of cope because horrible things happen and they tend to happen for no reason.
Like, it's comforting for people to think, well, at least someone's in control.
Even if they're like my direct opponent, even if they hate me, at least they're in control.
And I'm sort of like, the world is very chaotic.
And the reality is, no one's really in control, at least on Earth.
I mean, I do think God is obviously in control.
But, like, as far as, you know, in our physical realm, no, actually, the world's very tenuous, the world is very chaotic.
It actually is kind of comforting to think, well, you know, this is all planned by this shadowy cabal.
I'm like, I don't think it is.
I really don't.
I mean, one, I don't see any evidence really.
But secondly, it's just like, no, I think what's more likely is what we're seeing is pretty close to reality.
I mean, to your point, when we get close to like power structures, you feel the heat of actual power structures.
It's a lot of incompetence, a lot of people that can't keep their mouth shut.
You see leaks all the time.
Just, it's people that are a bit smarter.
That's it.
tim pool
How would you guys feel if we actually were like North Korea?
The world that we live in and the technology we consume, the internet and all that stuff, is actually just an isolated region of the planet.
We think we're free, we think this is the planet, but we've actually never seen real human technology.
nick sortor
But does that mean nobody here has seen it?
tim pool
It means that there are people outside.
So imagine there's like 12 billion people that live normal human lives with advanced technology beyond our wildest dreams, and the inner continents are just a slave portion where we mine cobalt and stuff.
nick sortor
I feel like, you know, somebody would have given some evidence of it.
tate brown
That's what the third world thinks about.
For the record, this is what the third world thinks about America.
nick sortor
Actually, you could look at like the North Sentinelese, right?
tate brown
You know, it's like literally people that are like extracting cobalt in like the Congo right now are like, man, we're doing this all for these American overlords and they fly on planes and you know, they can like get lighter, you know, they have lighters that make fire out of nowhere.
Like, these are like really amazing like species and we're stuck here banging away in these mines.
Like, that's what they think.
They look at like this earth theory, like, that's how people in the third world think about the West, honestly, is like, they're like, wow, these people are really, they got something going on.
tim pool
Chad GPT made this.
I asked Chad GPT what is greater earth conspiracy, explained it.
I said, make a picture.
And it made this, which it's not a very good understanding because it made it look Earth looks like an eclair or like a Boston cream.
You know what I mean?
It's like disc shaped.
But the general idea is this is what greater Earth theorists think that the seven continents are inside this ring of ice, and outside of it are vast continents.
And the reason why we can't develop anti grav technology and stuff like that is because the human beings outside of the ice wall who've been around for tens of thousands of years are way more advanced and just.
Kill you if you try to escape.
tate brown
But look at the picture.
Look in the bottom left.
There's the ice wall that goes through the Midwest.
unidentified
You can see the floor.
It does.
tim pool
Yeah, it's not a very good image.
tate brown
It's a lot closer than we thought.
carter banks
It's kind of like the hollow earth.
tate brown
Can't we?
Canadians are, you know, Canadians are stuck in the matrix.
tim pool
Wait, I actually got a ChatGPT made a better one.
tate brown
Oh, and then there's a second earth.
ian crossland
That's interesting.
unidentified
Ooh.
ian crossland
That's some old hyperborea.
The prison is in your mind.
They want you to think you're locked inside of an ice wall so they can do what they want to you.
carter banks
Like, The chicken fake moon land.
ian crossland
Little do they know we're all neighbors.
Yeah, uh, I can't get into this ice wall thing.
I mean, I've never heard of it beyond the great earth.
Oh, beyond like the galactic accretion disk, there might be heavy doses of ice, but I don't really see evidence for it.
I'm talking galactic scale.
tim pool
Also, look, the important thing to understand is this is no different than claiming you know reptilians live underground at the Denver airport.
Like, this is a conspiracy.
unidentified
That's a good one.
ian crossland
There are humans that have been living underground for a long time.
tim pool
No, no, I'm sorry.
The theory is.
unidentified
That's true.
tate brown
The Jewish people in New York.
unidentified
Oh, like the tunnels underground.
tim pool
The theory is that when the meteor struck and clouded up the atmosphere, there was a more intelligent species of dinosaur that went into caves.
ian crossland
The Yucatan one, 63 million years ago.
tim pool
They went into caves to avoid the catastrophe and lived underground off lichen and moss and other stuff and water.
And so they cannot come on the surface because they've developed for tens of thousands or millions of years with no light.
So sunlight burns their skin.
So, they operate a vast network underground of advanced technologies.
ian crossland
Now, that's a bigger take because we don't have evidence of humans coexisting with dinosaurs.
But 13,000 years ago, when Atlantis seems to have been dominating the planet, it's possible that they went, a lot of people went underground and then the meteors hit.
Maybe they unexpectedly, of course, but that they're still there.
carter banks
Have you seen that movie, The Descent?
It's kind of about that.
Like in the caves, there's like people in there.
ian crossland
Someone said they're coming out soon.
tate brown
And also, usually the explanation worked out for us.
It's like, okay, let's just steel man the moon landing.
We faked it to demoralize the Soviets.
It worked.
They collapsed like 20, 30 years later.
So it's like, that's awesome.
Great work, CIA.
Like, this is why we pay you guys.
tim pool
Here we go.
This one's a little bit better.
ian crossland
All right, so that's the ice wall.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Yeah.
This is what greater earth theorists believe.
unidentified
That is.
tim pool
Ice hand.
And outside of the ice wall is Tartaria and Atlantis.
And it attaches itself to the great mud flood conspiracy theory.
Do you know what that one is, Nick?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
There's a conspiracy theory about the great empire of Tartaria, which was a planet spanning one world government, a great empire.
And when a great flood happened, waters washed over all of the cities.
Anybody who's ever experienced a flood knows after a flood, there's a thick layer of mud.
So the mud flood is the great flood of Noah, washed over the earth, and left.
10, 20, 30 feet of mud, which then hardens.
And the buildings that we occupy in some cities are actually much older than we think.
And that's why there are weird instances where you can see half of a door frame buried in the ground.
Like there will be sidewalk and half a door frame sealed off.
And people just go, Why does that building have a door there?
The real answer is because there probably used to be a cellar door that they filled in.
But of course, people who are bored will just be like, Because when the flood happened.
ian crossland
But man, if you look at the Rakat structure in Northeast, West Mauritania, that's where they think the capital that landed was.
It was covered in mud.
And the Mu are the people in the Pacific.
The MU is how they spoke.
They were like a Pacific spanning civilization, apparently, that was just submerged during the flood because it's called isostatic change in the Earth's crust.
It was compressed by a bunch of ice in the northern hemisphere.
When the meteors hit, it melted all that ice.
So the decompression, the land itself came up because of that isostatic pressure was released.
So land elsewhere on the planet went down as it came up to compensate and they sunk.
So, not only were they hit with a flood, they sunk.
That's what happened, I think, to all these sieves.
tim pool
This is the kind of stuff.
I'm not sure what he's insinuating, but it's probably something dumb.
And this guy, Flat Earth, said, Why are there three to four floors buried underground with windows?
That's the kind of thing that people go, Hey, wait a minute.
And they claim it's proof of a great mud flood.
ian crossland
Is that Gobekli Tepe?
unidentified
That?
No.
ian crossland
I wonder if Gobekli Tepe was hit by a flood or if they just buried it because it's mostly underground and that's where they think civilization recovered 13,000 years ago in Turkey.
It looks like a trade hub or something.
nick sortor
Yeah, I prefer to report on the ice as we know it today.
Immigrations and customs enforcement, not a great ice wall or whatever.
So, this is all news to me.
It's interesting, but where is this?
Do we even know?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I just looked it up.
This is a weird pseudo historical theory from the Russian nationalism misunderstandings maps.
I'm Sabirat, known as Tartaria.
Tartaria was a highly advanced global spanning empire which was erased from history following a mud flood.
Which swept the empire away.
And believers in this theory point to real world buildings with submerged levels as proof.
Sphinx Trade Hub Theory 00:10:06
tim pool
The wildest thing about this is that many of the buildings they point to were built in the 19th and 20th centuries.
They think the empire fell very recently, but the survivors erased Arteria from history.
tate brown
Yeah, the Ricotte structure, is that what it's called?
That one's actually a little weird.
I mean, that seems like it was probably a meteor hit, right?
ian crossland
The Ricotte structure, they believe it was formed.
We could pull this up too if you want to.
tim pool
Ricotte structure.
tate brown
R I C H A T.
ian crossland
Yeah, that it was an underground vault.
tim pool
Pull Google Earth.
ian crossland
Yeah, it'll show you.
tim pool
You can see it literally straight to Google Earth.
unidentified
Oh, it's so cool.
Straight up news.
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
It was under, there it is in the west, that scar in the bottom left.
unidentified
You see this?
ian crossland
Oh, if you type, there it is.
I'm so familiar with it, I see it in the bottom.
It's very bottom left now.
See that scar?
unidentified
There it is.
Yep.
ian crossland
That it's an underground volcano that couldn't breach the surface, so it bubbled out and rippled out.
And then that was like a million years ago.
And then humans settled on it when they found it.
Yeah.
And that's all like a plateau.
That's all mud.
Look at the striations, the sand being pushed up onto the land from the west.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Due to the flood.
And you can see salt.
That's probably likely from the ocean water that used to fill up those rings and they seem to have dug out.
tim pool
Yeah, there's also expanding Earth theory.
ian crossland
I believe that.
tim pool
Expanding Earth theory is that the tectonic plates of Earth are not actually moving into each other.
It's actually a compressed ball with layers that's slowly expanding, opening outward.
And so the reason why they say the Sahara used to be submerged, the reason why Egypt used to be submerged as evidence of water damage in the Sphinx, is because when the layers of the tectonic plates are compressed, there's more water on the surface.
There's less surface area.
So the water gets thinner.
Deeper as it expands outward, less and less, it requires more water to reach those elevations.
So the water thins out as the planet expands.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah, like a sponge in reverse.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Or, like those little toys when you had in kindergarten with the ball that you could, like, you know what I'm talking about?
A little spiky ball and you could squeeze it open and it would turn to a sphere.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
tate brown
That's a lot.
There's a lot of interesting things there.
Like, there's the Qatar Depression in Egypt where it's like this vast part of Egypt that's like under sea level.
And there was like a proposal.
The British initially wanted to nuke the strip along the Mediterranean to flood the Qatar Depression.
And then the CIA, quite literally, this is like all a matter of historical record, petitioned to Dwight D. Eisenhower to flood the Qatar Depression.
And I think the number one reason they cited why they should do that is just because it'd be like, Cool.
It would actually be great for Egypt.
It would actually give them a lot more arable land, so they should totally do it.
ian crossland
Oh, they're talking about building a canal?
tate brown
It's called the Qatar Depression.
Yeah, and if you look along the coast of the Mediterranean, the Egyptian government has explored building a canal into it and flood it.
Because there's only like 40 people that live in there.
They can move them pretty easily.
And it would create basically an inland sea for Egypt to use.
ian crossland
I'm deeply interested in this stuff.
I don't know how it takes modern governance, but I have a feeling it does.
tim pool
Did you hear about the Second Sphinx?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
You guys haven't heard about the Second Sphinx?
carter banks
I heard about the Second Sphinx.
tim pool
I'll pull it up for you guys.
unidentified
Oh, Sphinxer.
ian crossland
And I've heard that there's been more advancement into their underground.
tim pool
Look at this, guys.
How did you miss this one?
Second Sphinx buried under sand suggests mega structure below the pyramids of Giza.
Remember when they did that LIDAR or whatever and they were like, yo, there's gigantic pillars under this thing.
What is going on?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
What if the pyramid is actually not a pyramid?
It's an obelisk.
unidentified
Yeah.
carter banks
Oh, they're actually eight sided, too.
unidentified
What?
carter banks
Not just four sided.
Yeah, they're like little creases.
tate brown
Oh, really?
carter banks
You might want to fact check me on that, but I have heard that.
ian crossland
Oh, man.
carter banks
Like, went deep into the pyramids.
ian crossland
You know, they dug out those heads.
I think they were called the Moai in Easter Island.
tate brown
Yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
And they thought they were just head statues, but when they went down, they were bodies as well.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
This is the conspiracy theory.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tate brown
Oh, it's real.
There's a picture.
tim pool
Oh, that person.
unidentified
It's true.
tate brown
Yeah, they dug out a part of it.
tim pool
They did.
They dug out 17 quadrillion tons of earth and sand off the ground.
And then backed away to the helicopter to get this photograph.
unidentified
Yeah.
It was worth it, though.
I think they did that.
Yeah, it's a good shot.
Yeah.
carter banks
This is ChatGPT for that.
tate brown
It is interesting, like the European fascination.
I mean, like the Romans were like obsessed with the obelisks and they would take them from Egypt and bring them.
Like the obelisk in St. Peter's Basilica or in St. Peter's Square is an actual Egyptian obelisk.
They just took and put it there.
carter banks
Yeah, there's a lot of materials.
They took like all of them and brought it all to one spot.
tate brown
If you walk around London, there's like eight Egyptian obelisks that are just around the city of London that you can go and look at.
tim pool
I'll just tell you guys what really happened because I know.
The featured people told me.
So 10,000 years ago, there were colonists coming to terraform Earth and settle.
The colonial government got into a dispute over the structure of governance as they began to terraform the planet.
And I want to call it civil war, but a conflict broke out between two factions within this colonizing military faction.
It was a coup, essentially.
The losers were cast down into the Americas, stripped of access to technology, and left destitute.
And the survivors constructed these beacons to blast a flare to the home fleet for rescue.
They then came, brought them back.
And they flew off into the sunset.
tate brown
Half of that story is Mormonism.
Banished tribe to North America.
tim pool
And then the banished tribe on South America eventually lost their understanding of the world because after a few generations, it's just stories.
You tell your great great grandson that we had chariots in the sky, and they're going to be like, okay.
And in their mind, they're imagining a guy riding a horse in the air, and you're imagining in your mind a jet, but you can't, you can't, and then you die.
And then your great great grandson's like, yeah, they had like chariots flying through the sky.
I don't even know what it looked like.
I've never seen one.
ian crossland
I've been thinking they're hot air balloons lately.
They're like, how did they move the Egyptian, all these heavy blocks?
So you put them on big platforms and then tie hot air balloons to the platforms and then you walk them with a rope.
No, I looked up people to walk it.
tim pool
I looked up, like, because everyone's like, how did they move the stones to build the pyramids?
And I was like, well, how much did they weigh?
The stones apparently weighed like 2.5 million tons.
And it's like, wow, that's a lot.
How many people would you need to pull that?
And it's like 50.
unidentified
No.
nick sortor
2.5 million pounds.
Sorry, pounds.
unidentified
Not tons.
Yeah.
tim pool
2.5 million pounds, and it's like 50 guys with ropes over slats or whatever, and they can just drag it.
carter banks
What about up at the end?
nick sortor
I mean, had they invented pulleys and such?
ian crossland
I think they floated them up in little canals on water, and then they would lock the water off once they got to a certain elevation and then fill it up, and it would go up to the next one, and then they'd lock it off.
tate brown
It's like Minecraft.
nick sortor
It just makes me think here, right?
If these people were that intelligent back then, how did you end up with people, you know, like kind of next door, like Ilhan Omar?
How many years later?
I mean, how did it fail?
tim pool
Where did they go wrong to the point where they were like, oh, no, it says 5,000 people.
5,000 people could pull 2.5 million pounds.
ian crossland
Evolution is not guaranteed.
De evolution can always go backwards.
unidentified
Oh, wait, wait.
tim pool
I'm way wrong.
unidentified
I'm way wrong.
tim pool
I think the stones were 2.5 tons.
carter banks
Yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
Which is 5,000 pounds.
carter banks
Yeah.
unidentified
5,000 pounds.
carter banks
Yeah, because a ton is 2,000 pounds.
ian crossland
Yeah, they need to.
I thought they were floating those things.
That's just a little too much to imagine dragging across the sand.
It doesn't make sense.
carter banks
Well, some people say they had like trees, like the trunks, and they'd roll them.
ian crossland
But like.
The whole flying machine thing, I think, is very important not to overlook.
The Vimana is an ancient Indian flying machine that the king would fly around on.
Probably a hot air balloon or some kind of.
tim pool
Yeah, 10 to 50 people could pull one pyramid block.
ian crossland
And that's across the sand with friction?
unidentified
Yep.
nick sortor
So are they just pulling this out of their ass, or do they actually have some reason to believe?
tim pool
Well, I watched a video of one guy moving a 100-ton slab.
I think it was Ancient Aliens.
He had this gigantic concrete slab, and what he did was.
He dug out underneath one side of it and then he rolled it.
ian crossland
Yeah, that super tall one.
tim pool
And then there was another trick that he was doing with hammering wedges into it to create a bat, like to make it teeter back and forth.
And then you could walk it.
And then you have two people, and then it's just counterbalancing its own weight and it walks.
carter banks
My question is, like, how do they get them really high up into the air?
Like, there's one that's like 200 tons, but like 100 feet up into the air.
tim pool
Oh, that one's obvious.
Aliens.
carter banks
That's what I'm thinking.
ian crossland
The big ones, they had to tap the resources of aliens.
tate brown
Sound really strong, guys.
ian crossland
Hot air balloons is my guess.
tim pool
Is it confirmed that the Sphinx originally had a dog's head and the Pharaoh was like, knock that head off and put my face there?
ian crossland
I don't think it could be confirmed, but they think it was a lion.
That's why the head looks so receded.
It used to be a full on frontal lion, and then some Idiot pharaoh egomaniac was probably tripping his balls for 30 years straight.
Was like, My god, my father must be worshipped.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, it was a lion.
ian crossland
And then they came by and broke his nose off because they're like, Fuck that guy's father.
tim pool
Fuck the patriarchy, the monarchy.
Because people say, like, you notice the head is much smaller than the rest of the body, it's disproportionate.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
tim pool
So the theory is that it was originally a lion, and then a pharaoh was like, Carve its head into my face.
ian crossland
Or I think it was his father's face, is the conspiracy theory.
carter banks
Probably is what happened.
ian crossland
I mean, who else is gonna commission something like that?
unidentified
My dad.
tim pool
And the theory that the pyramids line up with Orion's belt only makes sense if they were built.
10,000 BC, when they would have aligned with Orion's belt.
ian crossland
Oh, yeah, dude.
Um, Corin Nemec was saying they were sensory deprivation tanks, these sarcophagi that they would go in them, cover up, and then fill them with like salt water.
And well, you know why, right?
It's awesome to astral project.
tim pool
When you go into sensory deprivation, you isolate yourself from all of reality, everything becomes uncertainty, every electron, every function becomes probabilistic infinity.
And then in that sensory deprivation, you can manifest reality to be what you want when you emerge.
Gene Altering Experiments 00:07:12
ian crossland
Oh, yeah, dude.
Yeah, George St. Pierre did a sensory deprivation.
He went to the pyramids.
I think it was with.
He went out there with Jimmy Corsetti, Bright Insight.
And when George came out of the.
You know, George St. Pierre, the MMA fighter, well, super fit.
He came out of the activation chamber, they call it.
And he was like, I'm going to fight again.
I'm going to win the championship again.
Jimmy was like, What?
And he said he had a look in his eyes like he had been awakened.
And then like a week went by and George was like, No, no, I don't know what I was thinking.
I'm not getting back.
tim pool
Have you guys ever done sensory deprivation?
unidentified
No.
carter banks
No, but I really want to now.
tim pool
It's like 50 bucks.
Go do it.
ian crossland
We should get a.
I say we should get a tank, but it's a lot of cleaning.
tim pool
No.
Sensory deprivation chambers literally isolate everything.
They're float tanks.
They give you, it's like a little bit of water with a ton of salt so you float in it.
And then there's no light, no sound, just nothing.
ian crossland
Do you do that stuff, Nick?
Meditation and sensory deprivation, though?
nick sortor
Dude, I can barely turn my phone on silent.
I'm sitting here anxious that I've missed some sort of massive news story as I'm sitting here doing the show.
No, I would go crazy in a sensory deprivation chamber or whatever.
That sounds like torture.
Is that a CIA thing?
tate brown
There is a new method.
The new method is you turn the lights off while you're showering and you enjoy the shower more because it takes away one of your senses.
unidentified
Oh, that's cool.
tate brown
So a lot of people on Twitter have been saying, I'm turning the lights off and my life's improving.
unidentified
Wow.
Yeah.
tim pool
That sounds like just something someone made up and it's a placebo effect.
People are like, sure, I guess.
tate brown
Shit, well, the way it works.
ian crossland
I showered in the dark four days ago.
tim pool
I heard that if you take a mallet for tenderizing meat and bash your face with it, it makes you more attractive.
unidentified
I know that's true.
nick sortor
A Haitian must have told you that.
tim pool
No, it was clavicular.
tate brown
Yeah, clavicular.
unidentified
It's true.
tate brown
It works.
It's a thing.
I'm not endorsing him.
tim pool
I think that guy actually is retarded.
And what bothers me, I'm not being a dick, I think he actually is retarded.
And I think it's sad that he's clearly autistic.
And I mean that in the literal sense.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He doesn't understand basic social cues and social understanding of humanity.
So he takes a very.
Like a mathematical view of what a human is supposed to do or be.
And all these people crowd around him and just clap and cheer for him and get him to do crazy things.
So he's doing ridiculous drugs.
He's sterilizing himself.
What he's doing is no different from the trans stuff just drugs and surgery to mess up his brain because he's clearly a young autistic guy.
tate brown
I view him the same as like Brian Johnson, where they're kind of like astronauts, where they're like, I'm going to sacrifice my body to like see what could happen.
tim pool
No, I disagree.
There's researchers in South America that are injecting themselves with gene editing technology so they stop producing fat so they live longer.
That's more like it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Brian Johnson is like, bro, Brian Johnson's the guy who says, I'm going to eat a teaspoon of olive oil before dinner and live forever.
And it's just like, well, okay, let me know how it goes.
But there are these genetic engineers that have gone to private islands where they can't be stopped and they're injecting themselves with gene editing viruses and stuff so that their bodies literally are genetically altered and they live forever.
tate brown
That kind of goes hard.
I can't.
tim pool
See, I agree with that.
Like, of Brian Johnson, he gets blood tests, he exercises, blood transfusions, and he eats olive oil.
Like, those are great things, but that's just diet and exercise.
tate brown
Yeah, but he likes to inject his son's blood.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, dude.
nick sortor
Now we're getting into like Epstein type stuff here with that.
unidentified
Oh, it's true.
Yeah.
tate brown
These guys is kind of like.
unidentified
What is it called?
nick sortor
Wait, was that the same guy?
The injecting his son.
I think I saw this was like a year and a half ago or something.
tate brown
It was like a Netflix documentary.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
No, I view these guys.
I view him.
I view them as like.
I'm being kind of ironic.
I kind of view them as like astronauts.
I'm like, if they want to do that, let's just see.
Because that's maybe not Brian Johnson, but like clavicular.
That's like stuff everyone has access to.
Everyone could do it.
carter banks
Also, dude, his commitment to the bit.
I was watching this interview the other day and he's like.
Talking about height maxing, and someone's like, Well, what happens if you have to like take your shoes off with a girl in the bed?
or something's like, What you can do is you can sag your pants down really low and then you can tiptoe max.
tate brown
Well, he also said he'd never get yeah, and he also said you can have vantage points in your house, so there's like ledges around the house, yeah, like step up on it, look a little taller.
nick sortor
Is he short or something?
tate brown
No, I think he's like average, but he wants the height mog.
And then what's interesting with the vantage points thing is like they asked him the obvious question, Well, what happens if you look under your bed?
What happens if you need to move throughout your room?
He says, I don't know, you just wait.
For to like look away or go to the bathroom and then he moves to your next bedroom.
And I'm like, this is awesome.
This is like gorilla astronaut.
Like, you know, like it's like this is stuff everyone could do.
Should we do it?
Probably not because he sterilized himself.
But like, it's like I'm kind of viewing him as like a modern.
nick sortor
How did he, first of all, I want to say like you're calling it a bit.
I actually don't think it's a bit.
I think it's like that's just he has been either brainwashed into doing it through his autism or like I don't think he's fake.
I mean, doesn't he do like a 24 hour live stream?
Fake it on a 24 hour live stream.
tim pool
I'm sorry.
I have to apologize to Brian Johnson.
He is injecting himself with experimental gene altering.
tate brown
Yeah, he went to like Honduras or something.
tim pool
Yeah, he went to, they call him Vampire Skinned, and they say that he got an injection, experimental gene therapy developed by Mini Circle based in Austin.
The treatment took place at a Garm Clinic, a private stem cell gene therapy facility on the Honduran island of Roatan.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Not approved.
unidentified
That whole island.
tim pool
FST 344.
It's composed of a plasmid designed to combat frailty and lengthen the human lifespan by promoting the production of folastatin, a protein that supports muscle development and health.
The plasmid was engineered to be easy to inject subcutaneously, cheap to manufacture, and have the ability to carry any gene MiniCircle wanted to add to the body.
Plasmids are literally from Bioshock, where you inject yourself and then your hand starts on fire.
tate brown
Yeah, they're literally doing a Captain America experience on that island.
It's crazy what's going on.
I was watching a bunch of YouTube videos about it.
So that's why, yeah, I view him.
tim pool
You want to do it?
tate brown
No, because I think he's doing it for us.
unidentified
$25,000.
tim pool
How about it?
ian crossland
I like the idea of living until I want to stop.
I don't know.
tim pool
How about we send you down to Roaton?
We'll drop $25,000 and we'll make you live forever.
tate brown
I think Dr. Johnson's doing it for us.
tim pool
See what happens.
But hey, it'll also make you ripped.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because the full of statin makes your body stop producing fat, starts producing muscle.
ian crossland
It's just so early in 20 or 30 years once we see the repercussions.
tim pool
That'll be too late.
You'll have too much genetic damage.
You got to do it now.
unidentified
Maybe.
tate brown
Now or never.
ian crossland
I'm open to going and checking it out, but I'm not really a biohacker.
I mean, I like to do it through diet and exercise and meditation.
tate brown
Yeah.
nick sortor
So, an interesting thing, you guys have probably heard of Mario Knopfle before, right?
unidentified
Of course.
nick sortor
This guy, I used to work with him.
I haven't talked to him in probably a year and a half.
Not because of any fault, just we parted ways.
But this guy spends a ridiculous amount of money on trying to reverse aging.
And I mean, he looks, he's probably like 12 years older than I am.
I'm 27.
He looks younger than I do.
So, at some point, it does work.
unidentified
Who is this?
nick sortor
Mario Knopfel.
Oh, gosh.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick sortor
So he.
I've met him in person multiple times.
ian crossland
A lot of him.
nick sortor
He's been here.
tim pool
He's been on the show, and we did an interview with him.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick sortor
So you've looked at him.
unidentified
He doesn't look.
tim pool
He looks like he's 20.
nick sortor
Exactly.
unidentified
How old is he?
nick sortor
He's 52.
I'm not going to say exactly what he's doing.
tim pool
Look at this.
Look at this video.
This is wild.
Balkan Migration Routes 00:02:20
tim pool
This is a map of immigration into Europe starting in 2008.
Right.
tate brown
This is just the illegals.
unidentified
Golly.
ian crossland
That's a swarm.
tim pool
Just wait.
nick sortor
Why is this not voting?
tim pool
There you go.
ian crossland
What is that?
What's the red thing?
tate brown
What's the red?
nick sortor
Syria?
Oh, Syria.
tim pool
Ukraine?
Now Syria.
tate brown
Every time there's a war.
ian crossland
Oh, what?
unidentified
Bro.
ian crossland
Yo, watch the insurgents.
tim pool
Is this to destroy Europe?
Honestly, looking at this, I'm like.
nick sortor
It's like an invasion.
tim pool
Well, I'm like, the only purpose of this is to destroy Europe.
tate brown
Yeah, literally.
That's all it is.
ian crossland
Yeah, to control it.
tim pool
No, destroy it.
ian crossland
The way you control liberal democracy.
Wait, wait, hold on.
tim pool
Why are Mexicans going to Europe?
nick sortor
I'd rather them go there, to be honest with you.
tate brown
Why don't they go to Spain?
Some of them just came through descent, and then some of them just go.
tim pool
I can understand why Eritreans are going.
If I was in Eritrea, I would also go.
tate brown
Every time it's red, that means that's the lead source of migration that year.
unidentified
Oh.
tate brown
So Albania used to be in 08, and then it just really started kicking off.
tim pool
2016 is Syria.
unidentified
Yeah.
Jeez.
Wow.
Oh, man.
tate brown
And they made a push.
tim pool
Each stick man is 100 people.
unidentified
Oh.
Insane.
tate brown
Look at the handful of Americans rocking up.
unidentified
I mean, screw this.
tate brown
Obama sucks.
I'm illegally immigrating to France.
Kind of base, actually.
ian crossland
That's kind of all of Europe.
That's all of Europe.
nick sortor
I can't really tell because it's swarmed like bumblebees.
ian crossland
Oh, okay.
nick sortor
What's the epicenter there, though?
It's worth looking at.
That looks like Germany ends up being the epicenter.
tim pool
No, It looks like Greece.
It looks like Athens.
ian crossland
Oh, the Mediterranean.
tate brown
It's because they enter through the Balkans.
That's how they enter through the Balkans.
tim pool
So here, everything swarms around here.
tate brown
Yeah, the Visegrads.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Damn, Croatians.
Just kidding.
I love you, Croatia.
unidentified
Look at that.
tate brown
Yes, they start to work their way in.
ian crossland
Oh, man, that is the moment, dude.
tate brown
Oh, well, that was in Syria, really kicked off.
unidentified
It's just like, giz.
ian crossland
And all this juice just flowed.
tim pool
Yeah, it looks like Greece and.
tate brown
A lot of them entered through Romania.
They entered through Croatia because those are like EU ports that are easy to get into.
tim pool
I mean, it looks like Greece, to be honest.
tate brown
Greece, yeah.
It's just easy to get into.
tim pool
Well, I went there and I went to the Isle of Lesbos.
That's what it's called, Lesbos.
nick sortor
That's where the word came from?
tim pool
It is, yes.
It literally is.
nick sortor
Yeah, no, I believe it.
Visa Spiking Scandals 00:05:36
unidentified
I just.
tate brown
Once you enter Greece, then you're in.
The Schengen zone.
You don't need to pass any more border posts.
tim pool
And it's really easy to get in.
ian crossland
I watched dudes swim.
tim pool
Like they were swimming to the island.
We filmed it.
It was crazy.
And there are people standing there to help them pull them up.
And then on the island is a refugee welcome center.
Like you walk in and they'll give you food and they'll clean you up.
And then people sneak out and they dip off.
tate brown
The next thing you know, they're in France.
ian crossland
You're like, yep, we can't.
tim pool
And then the funniest thing was when I went to France, there were a bunch of sub Saharan African dudes standing outside saying that we were lied and tricked into coming here.
I interviewed these guys.
They said we were told there would be jobs and places to live, but it's an inflatable tent.
Basically, It's like a bouncy house, right?
They put a fan on that goes and it blows up, and you go inside and it's really cold.
And what the guys told me was they'd never experienced winter before and it was terrible and they want to go home.
tate brown
Relatable.
tim pool
Yeah, they were like, I've never seen snow in my life.
This is torture.
tate brown
Well, have you seen in Calais in France where it's like the staging point for people to enter?
tim pool
Didn't they destroy that though?
tate brown
They've destroyed it like three times now.
tim pool
Wow.
I was there and they would climb on top of trucks, semi trucks, and then.
Like, try and cover themselves and get brought in on the top of these trucks into the UK.
unidentified
So insane.
ian crossland
Like, they couldn't defeat the liberal economic order militarily.
Nobody could.
So they're like, how do we just destroy it?
I don't think that they, I don't even think that this new world order thing wants the liberal economic order to survive in the state that it was, like Bridget, British, you know, led.
tate brown
I think this reinforces the liberal world order because, I mean, look, if you can sort of turn everyone into like a beige biomass, then it's much easier to control people that way.
Like, if you erode national sovereignty, that's actually makes it easier for like, like, Companies, massive companies, it's much easier to sell people products than for them to have identities.
As in, someone can put on a Captain America t shirt much easier than they could be a proud American or something like that.
So people find their identity in consumer products.
ian crossland
Like, changed with Nixon.
I act like I'm like, I re realize it every time I bring it up.
Like, oh, obviously, in the 70s, the New World Order, the liberal economic order, changed the definition of what liberal economic order meant.
Went from like a rules based American led economy to a global, you know, corporatocracy, essentially.
nick sortor
Yeah, I know.
So, we've seen the videos and such of all these illegals come over on boats, especially to even places like the UK, right?
They'll go to France, they'll be like, this place sucks because France does suck.
And then they'll be like, okay, well, I want to go somewhere less sucky, so I'm going to go to the UK instead.
And so they'll take a boat to the UK and they'll end up on the coast.
They'll all run onto the shore and then they're just allowed to stay.
And then Valentina Gomez, I have lots of opinions on that whole thing, but she ended up.
Announcing that she had a visa approved, go to the UK to speak at an anti Muslim rally and was making a big deal about it on X.
And so the British government, understandably, went back and said, no, yeah, we're not going to approve a visa here because she was, they made the argument that she was talking it up a lot, like she was going to create problems when she was there.
And it's like, okay, I get that.
Yeah, right.
So she then decided, okay, I'm going to come, but I'm going to take a boat.
And see what you say when I come up to your shore with a boat, like all of these migrants from Africa do.
And so it's like, okay, well, I guess there's a little bit of a check.
It'll be interesting to see how that plays out, though, to be honest.
tate brown
That's true.
I mean, as she's like literally attacking Carl Benjamin and saying he's never done anything for England, I'm like, who are you?
And she's saying this in like basically broken English.
unidentified
I know.
nick sortor
It's like, this is not a representative of my country.
tate brown
She's like, the great replacement.
I'm like, you are the great replacement.
unidentified
You're Colombian.
Come on.
tate brown
I just can't.
Anyone that like disparages like people like that are actually doing effective.
Of work, I just have zero time for, but that will be interesting.
I mean, if they can stop her boat, then that's evidence that they can like stop these boats whenever they want.
ian crossland
Oh, I wonder if she has, if they've determined that she has bad intentions for the fatherland if they just won't let her in.
No, your special exception, Valentina.
You've already played your hand.
You're supposed to go there quietly and calmly and then make a scene and leave.
tate brown
Yeah, that's usually what people that are like, you know, Americans or whatever, intending on protesting in Britain, is like, you don't tell them at the border, like, hey, by the way, I'm here to give you problems.
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
nick sortor
And that's why I was saying, like, I totally understand why they revoked her visa.
tate brown
This was her plan the whole time.
She wanted to get her visa spiked so that way she could make a scene.
And it's all, it's, She does all this just to get like 10% in the Missouri Secretary of State.
tim pool
She needs to study under Laura Loomer.
Laura is the best at PR.
Like, there's nobody better.
Remember when she handcuffed herself to Twitter HQ?
ian crossland
Yeah.
tim pool
She got banned from Twitter, and that night she was the number one worldwide trend.
She had illegal immigrants jump over the wall into Nancy Pelosi's property, and then she staged like a press event.
I don't know of anybody who's better at getting press and jettering attention than Laura Loomer.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean, if the goal is just to generate attention, like, sure, but like, let's not pretend that you're advancing right wing ideas and then Carl Benjamin's like, what's some hell fumble?
Like, what are we talking about here?
Like, Carl Benjamin, by and you know, has played a large part in why like reforms top of the polls, why restore is emerging is because he's like single handedly pushed the overgen.
When I'm not trying to glaze him, I'm just like trying to be realistic of like, maybe we don't attack figures that like are actually pretty, like contributing quite a lot to the zeitgeist.
It makes zero sense to me.
Tucker Carlson Accusations 00:02:15
tate brown
Yeah, that's like, you call him like fat.
And he was like, I'm 46 with four kids.
unidentified
Like, Of course.
tim pool
She called Carl fat.
tate brown
Yeah.
She called Carl fat.
tim pool
And then he was like, You actually lost a lot of weight.
tate brown
I know.
And then his response was so funny.
He was like, Well, if you're a 26 year old unmarried woman, like, of course it's going to be a big deal to you.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
So I just had like zero time.
tim pool
I'm 46 with, what do you say, four kids?
Yeah.
tate brown
Of course I'm going to be, I'm not going to be like an Adonis.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Of course.
Like, I, yeah.
unidentified
He's great.
tate brown
I can't stand, I know Carl's the best.
That's why it was so crazy.
I just can't, the engagement baiting, the engagement farming has just gotten so out of control where it's like, Destroying the right.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick sortor
Like, no one.
tim pool
It's all fake.
It's all fake.
tate brown
No one, no British normie is going to see her like spurging out and they're going to be like, yeah, maybe, maybe like this migration thing needs to be.
No, they're going to like double down because they're going to see her just completely.
tim pool
Bro, Tucker Carlson.
tate brown
Optics are key.
tim pool
Tucker Carlson's, I'm tormented for having supported Trump.
I apologize for this.
I'm just like, man.
I remember the Tucker Carlson where he was like, he got accused of being racist when he was in Australia and he's like, racist.
It's like, my problem's with liberal white women, not black people.
And it was like the funniest thing ever.
And now I don't know what he's doing.
He's saying like, I'm sorry for misleading you.
It wasn't intentional and I will be tormented by this.
And I'm just like, what?
That is not the reasonable response to your criticisms of Trump.
Like, that's not sane.
That's just nuts.
That's just crazy.
tate brown
Especially because he was a glazing like a month ago with Joe Kent, where it's like, although they were like, you know, problems with the Iran were like, I still think Trump's great, da da da da, and like, oh, you know, pray for peace, et cetera.
And then all of a sudden, a month later, he's like, I'm so sorry.
I got to pay penance now for telling people to vote for Trump and Kamala.
tim pool
Like, what are you doing?
I voted for Obama in 2008.
I have never had this moment where I was like, I'm tormented every day.
I'm sorry.
For having voted for Barack Obama.
nick sortor
It comes across as so fake.
Like, I don't actually believe that he's being tormented, but I like Tucker.
tim pool
I did.
That was the line for me.
Like, I know him.
I mean, he's been very nice to me, but I don't find that sincere at all.
And I don't know.
Like, listen, I'll put it this way.
unidentified
Fine.
tim pool
He's tormented.
That's okay.
But he said, Was this always the plan?
There's no way I will ever believe that he did not understand what Miriam Madison's support for Donald Trump meant.
Everybody knew what that meant.
Donald Trump killed Soleimani.
He's launched missiles at Syria.
He's hired John Bolton.
Corporate Personhood Debate 00:11:59
tim pool
This is not surprising to any honest person.
And to claim now, Was this always the plan?
What are you talking about?
Everybody knew he brought on Miriam Madison.
He was taking money from her.
And we know why.
It was for Israel.
nick sortor
How much did Miriam Madison give to the Virginia redistricting?
No.
Push.
I mean, anything?
A dollar?
$10?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Can you get 200 million from her?
tate brown
But if foreign policy's on the line, she opens up the checkbook.
It's crazy.
I mean, like, there's Trump in the 80s was like, yeah, we should like bond facilities.
tim pool
100 million.
Between 100 and 111 million to pro Trump super PACs to help him get elected.
nick sortor
How much has she given to Galrun in Kentucky there against Thomas Massey?
You know, it's.
unidentified
Has she?
nick sortor
Millions and millions and millions of dollars.
tim pool
Trump said Miriam Edelson offered him another 250 million to run for a third term.
ian crossland
That's funny.
tim pool
This is part of me wants what I want him to run for a third term just for the lulls, for the memes, because he can't win.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
tim pool
But then it just means that it just, it just, uh, actually, I think he can run, but I don't think he can win.
Like, so technically, he can run, and then if he wins, just nothing happens.
ian crossland
Last night, we were talking about how corporations have personhood, and I was just kind of, I didn't have a lot to say about it.
But upon further, you know, inspection, it's that they have the rights to free speech and unlimited campaign donations.
Could campaign donations, and that's a good thing.
Corporate.
It depends on who you ask or how they do it.
What's wrong with it?
Because they don't have a face behind it.
tim pool
The issue is that Timcast Media is a corporation, it has employees.
It's not possible to exist as a sole proprietorship.
The corporation has a right to publish this news and can't be stopped by the government from doing so.
That's free speech.
In that, the company can spend money to promote political campaigns, it can't give money to a candidate beyond campaign limits, but it can promote through its own enterprise a candidate that it likes.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
If that wasn't allowed, we would be barred legally from talking about Donald Trump.
ian crossland
Well, you would just have to, it would be the liability to be on you instead of the corporation.
tim pool
That's not, it's not, no, you don't understand.
You can't have a 40 person enterprise without a legal structure behind it.
It's not possible for a sole proprietorship to have a company.
ian crossland
I'm sorry, a sole proprietorship is a company.
tim pool
A sole proprietorship is a sole proprietorship.
ian crossland
From an LLC?
Like a sole proprietorship?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
That's a corporation.
A sole prop would be I, as a private individual, doing a show and then paying contracts to people would not be financially, structurally, or managerially possible.
The corporate structure is so that there is an entity for which people are employees of that serve the end goals of that entity.
ian crossland
But you would still be able to talk about Trump.
You personally would still be fine talking about whatever you want.
tim pool
But we couldn't put it on the show because the show.
Would be a corporate entity publishing things.
And if it couldn't campaign, then the argument is any positive speech for a candidate would be campaigning and it would be illegal.
ian crossland
That's a big, that's like a Supreme Court conversation.
tim pool
They already had it and they've already agreed.
ian crossland
I mean, how many times have we been talking about it?
tim pool
A newspaper is a corporation.
The newspaper publishes an amalgam of voices and they are allowed to advocate for whoever they want.
They have free speech rights.
And that corporation can spend as much money as they want putting out a message that they deem appropriate.
ian crossland
But time, like us talking about it, is different than paying money to the campaign.
tim pool
You can't pay money to the campaign.
You're misunderstanding.
unidentified
Right.
ian crossland
But you said we couldn't talk about Trump.
tim pool
You misunderstand.
No one can give, no money, no entity, no structure can give more money than the FEC limits to a single candidate.
What you're referring to with corporate personhood is through this company's free speech right, I can spend $1 million of corporate money making videos saying Trump is the best, putting up billboards saying Trump is the best, and airing commercials saying Trump is the best.
I can then go every single night on my show talking about why.
You should vote for that for Trump or any other candidate.
If I was not allowed to, if the company did not have free speech, we would not be able to talk about Trump at all because they would argue it's campaigning in any sense.
That's why the Supreme Court said corporations have free speech.
The New York Times, without free speech, could not do news, period.
So corporations have to be able to have freedom.
And in fact, freedom of the press is in the First Amendment.
The press is a company, companies have a right to say things.
nick sortor
So, just I was looking into this real quick just to see.
So, the reports of a 20, about $20 million commitment involving Miriam Adelson, John Paulson, and a guy named Singer through this Republican Jewish coalition pack to spend against Thomas Massey in Kentucky.
unidentified
Wow.
ian crossland
$20 million?
nick sortor
$20 million.
ian crossland
Is that what they've committed so far?
unidentified
Yeah.
nick sortor
That's what they've committed.
But, I mean, this is when it's down to the wire now because you're less than a month out from the primary.
ian crossland
So, So, if you can only give, so they're not giving to a campaign.
They're just funding signs that say Massey bad.
nick sortor
What?
They're doing it through PACs.
Because, I mean, they can give unlimited amounts of money to these PACs.
And it's either pro Gal Ryan or anti Massey advertising, mostly ads.
tim pool
Well, you think Massey's going to win them?
unidentified
I do.
nick sortor
Yeah.
I'm from that district.
ian crossland
So, if a corporation gives unlimited funds, that's the problem.
tim pool
Why is that a problem?
ian crossland
Because they buy elections.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Well, we might be able to buy a billboard.
unidentified
Yeah.
Okay.
tim pool
So you agree with my right to spend unlimited money on getting someone elected?
You.
My company has money.
ian crossland
You spend your personal money on stuff.
I don't care what you spend it on.
tim pool
Is not the business my entity with my personal money?
ian crossland
It's an entity separate from you.
tim pool
And who's the controlling officer of that?
ian crossland
You at that point.
tim pool
And so the money is under my control?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
So the corporate entity under my control can put up billboards as it has, right?
ian crossland
Yeah.
I know that is the law.
I'm just saying the problem with quagmire in right now is because of corporate finance.
tim pool
That's just not true, not correct.
nick sortor
Well, I mean, you could, this could be an example of that.
Like, if Massey pulls out, like, you pull.
tim pool
People are allowed to spend their money on messaging that they want.
ian crossland
It's the argument goes back to, I think, I don't know who it was doing the whistle stop.
It was a presidential campaign in the United States, and he was spending his own money on the campaign.
He's like, why can't I spend my money on this campaign?
It made sense for him to be able to do that.
You can.
But that gets then extrapolated to corporations, then legally now there.
tim pool
So, all you're arguing for in the end, the end result of this is Miriam Adelson will extract corporate profits under her name and then spend the money.
You're adding a.
A piece of paper.
It doesn't do anything.
nick sortor
But even with all that money spent, so they're way outspending Thomas Massey there in Kentucky.
You go to Polly Market, I mean, just as a temperature check, right?
This isn't a poll, but there's still, you have people putting their money down.
Thomas Massey's still 70% winning the primary.
That's not an ad, guys.
This is just me just looking it up.
tim pool
We're going to go to your Rumble rants and Super Chat.
So smash the like button, share the show, and all that good stuff.
The uncensored portion of the show is at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL at 10 p.m.
Dark Pine says, Tim, for the end of times, Trump is the Antichrist culture war.
You should bring on Joel Webbin and Donnie Discerned.
That's a good idea.
And we could probably do it.
We're thinking about doing this with a live audience in DC.
It'd be very fun.
Vic the Fix says, wife and I went to TPUSA in Seabus with Vivek last night.
Packed house, and it was great.
Lefties asked three minute questions, and Vivek responded accordingly and still claimed VR avoided answering.
Retards all.
Interesting.
All right.
Astro Fox says, Are any of you familiar with what is happening in Corpus Christi, Texas, and their water shortage?
Estimates predict 500,000 people will be without fresh water by late 26, early 27.
Needs national attention.
Wow, really?
ian crossland
First I've heard of this.
unidentified
I am unfamiliar.
ian crossland
That was due to flooding.
tim pool
That wiped out their water sources?
unidentified
Maybe.
ian crossland
I don't know.
tim pool
Third Eye Rebellion says, Hey, crew, we're in the delivery room with baby boy Hunter, baby number three.
Love y'all.
Congratulations.
unidentified
Let's go, Hunter.
tim pool
We have a soundboard now.
tate brown
Welcome to the world, young patriot.
As soon as you can start babbling, it's time to serve this country, get after it.
ian crossland
Start a YouTube channel.
tate brown
Start a podcast.
Start a Rumble show.
Do whatever you need to do.
tim pool
D Sage says, Nick, how dare you doubt the daddy of big booty Latin America, pimp on a blimp for president?
unidentified
Okay.
tate brown
The Alex Stein Explorer.
tim pool
Oh, it is?
Disgruntled vet says, Did you hear about an Islamic knife attacker who Kenda allowed to travel to Mecca?
Please tell me this is fake.
nick sortor
Is that true?
An Islamic knife attacker was allowed to travel to Mecca.
tim pool
I have not heard.
tate brown
Was allowed?
That's like half of them.
unidentified
Yeah.
I was going to say, like, what do you mean?
tate brown
Yeah, that's like all that's called Muslims.
Well, are you new around here?
tim pool
562 says Can we make Ian actually pay attention to Luke for like a year before he's allowed to scream Luke's talking points in a random order?
ian crossland
Luke Rutkowski?
I've been following Luke Rutkowski since 2011, since they were trying to get us into Syria and Obama was, they were like, he's got gas weapons.
I don't know.
He was one of the most vocal forces to keep us out of there.
At that point, a force indeed.
Yeah, Luke.
unidentified
What do you think, Nick?
tim pool
You think we're getting crushed in the midterms?
You think Democrats are going to take everything?
nick sortor
I just speaking candidly, we got to get out of the freaking war.
unidentified
Okay.
nick sortor
It's just not good.
It's very difficult.
I'm sure I'm going to get blasted for this.
It's very difficult to go up to young people right now and then make them feel like we're winning.
It's just, I'm sorry, not about not winning the war, but about just winning in general, like motivating them.
tim pool
I think that's largely due to cultural issues around like marriage and dating.
nick sortor
Okay, but how does any of this help that?
tim pool
I mean, no, it doesn't.
It's, but it's also just, it's like a non sequitur.
It's like a different thing.
nick sortor
So, I mean, we can make this argument like, oh, yeah, no, if you're a service worker, you're not paying tax on tips anymore.
And then, you know, no tax on overtime, stuff like that.
But at the end of the day, especially right now, people are not feeling it.
They're not feeling it.
Everything is, especially gas.
I mean, that's one of the largest expenses.
I mean, I remember the days of being broke where it was like I had to make sure I had just like a dollar left on my credit card so that the pump would take it.
And I could run it up to whatever it is, and I would have to pay that down in order to get the next tank of gas.
Unless that is fixed, which I highly doubt it is going to be by November, there are a lot of people that are going to be too deflated to go vote.
tate brown
I'm just saying.
Yeah, I totally agree.
I mean, like, okay, yes, within the Republican Party, when you pull the Republican Party, like the voters are still on board with the Trump agenda.
That is true.
But it is also true that, yeah, I mean, there's this has a demoralization effect across, especially young people.
And the lesson that needs to be learned I'm aware that the average primary voter in the Republican primary is 65 years old.
But you do have to be aware, this just took Orban down.
Like, an Orban, you know, in our world, Orban's super popular.
Everyone loves, oh, you know, it's a super conservative firebrand or whatever.
And if you talk to young Hungarian right wingers, specifically right wingers in Hungary, young people, they were kind of fed up with the war.
And this was surprising for me to hear because, again, like over here, he's like the darling.
But that's how you lose a country is when the young people start to tap out.
nick sortor
Boomers on Fox News love this war, love every part of it.
It's their favorite thing ever.
And they, you know, they can get off to it at night, right?
When they go and watch Sean Hannity.
tim pool
But, Or the new Hannity podcast.
unidentified
Yeah.
God, man.
tate brown
Well, no, that's, that's, and that's been my number one problem with the war above all else is that it's rewarding the worst people in American politics.
Like, even if this goes swimmingly, even if this comes out, you still just basically rewarded literally the worst people in American politics were lining up to say, well, you know, I hate Trump, but he's making, you know, clocks, broke clocks right twice a day.
Traditional Family Values 00:05:24
tate brown
It's like, that's what I hate most about this is the entire apparatus that we're trying to destroy right now was overjoyed at this.
So, again, even which jury's still out, but even if this ends up being a resounding success, um, I don't, I'm still just very upset.
I really am.
It's just very frustrating.
tim pool
Let's grab some more.
We got a few minutes before the uncensored.
Marusia says Did you see Asmund Gold's lengthy rant against Mary Morgan, calling her a femme cell and worse for her post related to men who want to become fathers?
I think that I did.
He called her a femme cell.
It's funny because she's a tradcath who thinks universal literacy is a mistake.
So I don't, you know.
But her post was taken to the extreme end of her argument to go after.
I'm not saying that she's right necessarily.
There is a tendency, women tend to be more baby crazy than men are, and all of these guys got offended.
I think it has more to do with the fact that young guys desperately want to be dads, especially more so than women now, and it's very difficult.
Mary became the avatar of their anger when she said that men who want possession of children who are not their own are predators.
But When you think about that, like, why would a man want possession of a child that is not his own?
I think that's the point she's making.
People started countering with all sorts of stuff.
And then when I said that her point's being taken to an extreme and she's right in tendency, then all of a sudden people started spam blasting my name.
And I'm like, just chill the F out.
unidentified
Calm down.
ian crossland
Well, she said that men have no paternal instinct until they have their own children, which I think I disagree with that personally.
I'm experiencing it.
I don't have any kids.
tate brown
Well, I think there's exceptions, obviously.
There's some great dads that come along after the fact.
But I mean, that's why men, like, again, have this dispensation to, like, when a woman has a high body count, they're like, what's going on here?
Because that's, like, part of it, yes, socially, but part of it's just, like, evolutionary.
It's, like, when you're trying to determine who your kid is, it matters if you know who your wife slept with.
Like, this isn't.
tim pool
I think the issue is largely that there's a lot of guys who want to have families.
The data shows that men want to be dads more than women want to be moms today.
So, among Gen Z, especially.
And because of these structures, men are having a very hard time starting families because women don't want to.
So then Mary comes along and says, Men don't have paternal instincts to a bunch of guys who are buying a video game where they get to be the savior of a young child and be a father figure.
So, of course, they're going to get offended by what she's saying.
tate brown
Yeah, yeah.
I guess, yeah, when you put it like, yeah, I don't know specifically what her argument was, but I mean, yeah, the state of young women right now, it's like, I mean, I'm taken and I have a lovely woman, but again, I feel like a lost shepherd of Nam.
Like the actual, I mean, I remember being on a hinge.
I mean, it's like literally like walking through a minefield.
nick sortor
Well, I mean, look at what happened.
Look at that news that happened.
unidentified
Half of them are guys now.
tate brown
Yeah, it's true.
nick sortor
With the deputy assistant secretary for counterterrorism, Matt.
DHS, right?
This 29 year old girl boss type figure is still out there.
Did you see this article today?
unidentified
No, what happened?
Oh my God.
nick sortor
So she ended up, like, she got busted on a Sugar Daddy website.
tim pool
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick sortor
Which, I mean, it's like, I understand it's like, okay, some scorned guy that, okay, yeah, if you're 70 years old and you want to date some hot ass young 29 year old or whatever, like, you're probably going to have to pay for it, right?
They don't come for free.
There's a trade off.
But, You know, you're the Deputy Assistant Secretary for Counterterrorism at DHS, and you know, you shouldn't be in that position.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick sortor
But you're like, okay, 29 years old, zero prospects for children at all, and really have no interest in it, it seems.
And that's.
tate brown
But I guarantee in a one on one conversation, she'd be like lambasting men or saying, you know, we need more traditional values in society.
unidentified
Exactly.
Yeah.
tate brown
It's like the most vocal people that are like, we need more traditional values are either men like covered in tattoos with ear piercings.
It's like, okay, dude, well, you sold out your traditional aesthetics.
That's besides the point.
Or it's women that are like 30, and then suddenly they become Christians and everything.
And now they're like lecturing everyone on traditional values.
And it's like, can everyone just like cut the LARPing for a second?
You're like, what is going on?
But, you know, again, no offense to like our tattooed friends.
There's plenty of them.
I love them.
But it's like, I'm saying it's difficult to like lambast the decline of traditional aesthetics when you are not representing that, you know, personally.
That's kind of the point I'm making.
With women, it's on the extreme where women have already kind of jumped the shark, so to speak.
And then now they're retroactively going and lecturing men for not participating in traditional values.
It's like, you're 30.
ian crossland
Maybe we could get Mary and Zach, who's Asmongold, to do a show.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, and travel.
What's that?
ian crossland
Yeah, that'd be a good one.
Seeing those two together would be really cool.
tim pool
I think it's like, uh, I said Mary was right in tendency that, like, among across all generations, if you know, I walk down the street with my baby, guys do not bet an eye, they don't say anything.
Every single woman are, but among Gen Z women, where I think a lot of the young gamers are, women are like, Who wants kids?
Kids are bad.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And guys are like, I just want to have a family.
So she's getting all of their ire.
But I think when you look at older generations and you put it all together, it's just, it's largely correct.
I say largely because obviously to call guys predators for wanting to have kids.
Well, she said specifically kids who are not their own, which I don't understand why people are freaking out about that statement.
Like, yeah, any guy who's like, I'm going to take that child who's not mine.
It's like, okay, well, there's certain circumstances of adoption, I understand.
ian crossland
But if a dude's like, I really want to be a babysitter, I just want to babysit kids.
unidentified
Like, that would be kind of weird.
It'd be weird.
tate brown
Like, yeah, would you drop your kid off at a nursery that's all men?
Deportation Cell Tactics 00:06:56
tate brown
I'd be like, no.
unidentified
No, actually.
ian crossland
So I understand her statement about that.
tate brown
Like, yeah, if that's what's.
ian crossland
Desiring a child that's not yours.
But, like, I want to protect kids when they're not mine.
Like, that's my paternal instinct because I'm looking around.
When I see your kid, I'm not going up to him going, Oogie Googie.
nick sortor
I want to make sure.
tim pool
The thing that really irks me on it is that instead of saying Mary Morgan said thing, people are posting Tim Poole's employee Mary Morgan said thing because they're trying to use my name for algorithmic optimization.
tate brown
That's crazy.
tim pool
It's just so annoying.
It's like Mary's her own person.
She doesn't even live here.
She does a different show.
So it's like, if you want to complain about what Mary said, you can complain about what Mary said.
tate brown
It's like they're trying to tell on the teacher, Oh, I'm Tim.
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
It's that they're like, if I say Mary Morgan, people are going to say who?
So I'm going to put Tim Poole's name here so that we get clicks.
And then they wrote me into her opinion.
ian crossland
Nope.
It's like, it's Mary's time.
tim pool
It's her opinion.
She's allowed to have it.
tate brown
Mary Cast.
tim pool
Let's see.
Not Alan Rogers says Tim, the case is not dropped.
Stop lying.
You were paid by a tenant media millions of dollars by Russian intelligence agents.
unidentified
Fake.
Fake.
tim pool
So Merrick Garland goes on TV, announces this claim that two Russians who currently live in Eastern Europe that no one's ever seen before were funneling money through a Tennessee company that no one knew about and were licensing a show at a below market rate.
And then a month after the election, told my lawyers that there is no investigation, there will never be one, and then issued a formal statement to Lauren Chen six months later that there's no current investigation and the case is dropped.
It remains cold and open, but there's no one to even investigate.
There's no evidence that ever happened.
There's no known individuals who did it.
The whole thing is just one day they claimed a thing happened with zero evidence, and that was the end of it.
nick sortor
Did somebody literally just pay you to say this, to ask this question?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Super Chat gave me five bucks.
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to once again state on the record.
So, a Tennessee based company hosted by a prominent conservative commentator offers to license one of our shows, which still exists, by the way.
And so basically, they could run it live on their channel and then.
We would keep doing everything we were normally doing.
I do license deals all the time, and we said, sure.
And then Merrick Garland claimed it was actually Russians who were doing it the whole time, despite never producing any evidence it was Russians.
Not one tiny morsel of proof ever.
Because it was a psy op, they had been trying to game for a long time to go after someone like Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson, me, because how do you smear us otherwise?
Benny's not a white supremacist or even that far right.
He's a mainstream conservative guy.
I'm not a white supremacist, mixed race, kind of liberal in a lot of ways.
There's no real smear to go about it.
You can call a bunch of conservatives fascists or whatever, but not us.
So they tried to figure out some way to do it.
And I'm sure they would have liked to have gotten many, many more people.
And their stupid scheme did not work beyond that.
Let's grab one more.
Broadcast Mediocrity says Texas Republicans aren't responsible for the redistricting cascade.
Texas Democrats sued the Republicans in 2020 to delay redistricting.
This was resolved in 2025, creating a national opportunity for Democrats to shift blame.
Not only that, but the redistricting in Texas was too.
It made red districts somewhat redder.
So they would remain competitive in the midterm election.
And Virginia just wiped out four seats.
It's very different.
But we're doing the uncensored portion of the show.
So smash the like button, share the show.
It'll be at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
Nick, do you want to shout anything out?
nick sortor
Yeah.
Don't stop saying mass deportations, even though people are trying to convince you to stop saying it because it doesn't sound politically expedient anymore.
We don't save our country without mass deportations, guys.
Thank you for having me.
Appreciate it.
ian crossland
Thanks for coming, Nick.
Always a pleasure, man.
At Ian Crossland, you'll find me at Ian Crossland.
Go to graphene.movie.
Check out the new movie trailer.
That's coming out pretty soon.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
ian crossland
Carter, you're working on the music with it.
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
Look forward to it.
unidentified
Yes.
carter banks
I've got a few things in the pipeline.
You can find me at Carter Banks everywhere and at Carter Banks Official everywhere else.
Follow at Trash House Records on YouTube.
Also, more stuff coming out there.
Tate.
tate brown
Yeah.
Follow me on Instagram at Realtate Brown.
And I am also a deportation cell.
So the Trump administration is doing great work.
So let's not let up the gas.
Let's just step on it harder.
unidentified
Right on.
tim pool
Well, that's everybody, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
All right.
tim pool
We'll see you at rumble.com slash TimCast IRL right now.
unidentified
Thanks for hanging out.
tim pool
I have an observation based on what Tate just said.
He's using Gen Z lingo.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
We don't say, what did you call it?
A mass deportation cell?
tate brown
A deportation cell, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, there was a different suffix that we would use 10 years ago.
tate brown
What would it be?
tim pool
You don't know?
unidentified
Head?
No.
tate brown
Deportation head?
unidentified
No.
No.
tate brown
Deportation guy.
unidentified
Oh.
nick sortor
Deportation dude.
tim pool
I know the chat knows.
Chat, what was the three letter suffix used instead of cell 10 years ago?
tate brown
That was Zoomer language.
Yo, chat, chat, yo, chat.
tim pool
Carter, do you know what the word is?
Where's Nick at?
carter banks
Can you repeat the question real quick?
tim pool
What is the three letter suffix?
tate brown
Did you say I'm a deportation boy?
unidentified
No.
tate brown
Deportation.
tim pool
Nick, where are you at?
carter banks
Man, I don't know.
tim pool
I don't think you'll know it either.
How old are you?
tate brown
You're a zoomer, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Yeah, so I don't think he's in my camp.
tim pool
Gary Maricano says Tim is a kike.
That's not correct either.
That is not the answer.
I didn't even present that.
Anybody in the chat on Rumble know what the three letter suffix was attached to any word to represent a person of that idea?
tate brown
Deportation.
unidentified
It's not.
tate brown
He's saying deportation.
tim pool
Cell is modern.
tate brown
So, what's the millennial?
Cell is Gen Z. What's the soy millennial version?
tim pool
Hey, there it is.
There it is, boys.
Transgender Acronym Issues 00:14:28
unidentified
Fag.
Oh!
Fag.
tate brown
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I say normal fag.
tim pool
Yeah, that used to be the word.
unidentified
Gay fag.
tim pool
A gay fag was a person who was gay.
And then you'd say something like.
tate brown
All fags are gay.
tim pool
A chess fag is someone who plays chess.
unidentified
Right.
tate brown
Right.
Because there's a lot of fags.
They're not all gay.
And I do know a few gay people that are fagged.
carter banks
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
Exactly.
tate brown
Yeah, I like to say fag out.
Like, oh, that guy's fagging out.
carter banks
They used to call people gay wads.
unidentified
Oh, that's a good one.
Oh, yeah, gay wad.
nick sortor
I think that's still one of the words that you can't, unless they changed it recently, that you still can't say faggot on X. Really?
tate brown
Oh, yeah, you can't.
Yeah, because I've wanted to say it a lot.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick sortor
Well, somebody did this.
I remember I saw this where somebody, one of the companies that were trying to do a promotion, said, the comment in the replies here that gets zero likes wins $1,000 or something like that and said, okay, I've got this.
And then they said, Faggot, and then it immediately locked the comment so that nobody could like it.
tim pool
Oh man, yeah, that was the uncensorist of things.
Then there's this story from the post millennial trans Utah father kidnaps 10 year old child for sex change in Cuba, thwarted by the FBI.
Bro, the shit that's going to go down if slash when Democrats win is going to be weird.
It's going to be weird, man.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean, like, you know, I do kind of agree with people that are like, you know, sometimes the GOP will dangle action on social issues in front of voters to sort of guarantee further votes for the Republican Party.
As in, you see this, if the Democrats get in charge, this is what's going to be widespread.
But then you actually, like, look into some of these stories and the policy that's being implemented, and you're like, oh, yeah, they actually are going to implement it.
Like, that isn't, and in some instances, yes, it's just like establishment GOP guys who, like, don't intend to do anything.
But it is true that simultaneously the Republicans probably won't do anything on this.
And it is also true that the Democrats actually do intend on ramping this up.
Like, two things can be true at once.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick sortor
But I think it's very interesting now talking to the obviously, you have the cat turd wing of the Republican Party.
And then you have, you know, the young, like, based kids.
Like, the Gen Z is just, honestly, overwhelmingly based, which I love.
And then you talk to them about, like, gay marriage now, right?
This, what, Obergefell v. Hodges case.
I was in high school when that passed.
And now look, like, the amount of people that are going.
Yeah.
Going back now and saying, like, you know what, maybe this wasn't the best thing in the world.
And you saw that outrage over the viral post where some two gay dudes in Tennessee were like bouncing a baby on my mama.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Well, he had Shraka coming out and he was like, oh, I don't really even see the problem.
And then, you know, Matt Walsh dunked all over him.
He's like, disaffected liberal means you're not a liberal anymore.
You're still clearly.
Yeah, right.
What are we doing?
nick sortor
And he was referring to conservatives as you guys rather than.
unidentified
Us.
nick sortor
That's how we kept saying it.
tate brown
I thought you were like walking away.
It looks like you walked back.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
I think he walked back.
Yeah.
It's just like useless.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you, commentator 454, who has like nothing to add to the zeitgeist.
Thank you very much.
Appreciate you joining in on that.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
It's just totally ridiculous.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
And every day till Sunday, you're going to get this kind of thing when you, again, and what O'Burgeville V. Hodges did is now in the eyes of the state, in the view of the state, sexes are now interchangeable.
So, again, You can't separate the T from the LGB in this instance.
If you accept gay marriage, just philosophically, you have to accept transgenderism.
Because, again, in the eyes of a state, now sex is interchangeable.
So, what is the limiting principle there?
Well, there is.
There really is.
tim pool
Well, I think the transgender thing is the end of all limiting principles.
If a person can identify as a thing they're not, then there's no principle.
There's no limit anymore, ever.
tate brown
I mean, I guess that would be the backstop, would be a word, because that's true.
How could you get more absurd?
I mean, you could say pedophilia, but pedophilia has been around forever, unfortunately.
nick sortor
They're trying to break that into the acronym now, aren't they?
tim pool
Like animal laws apply to humans if a human decides they do.
tate brown
Yeah, and I don't think they'll reach for pedophilia because that's like the one taboo, which rightfully so, in America still.
tim pool
They've already tried.
nick sortor
It's a minor retracted person.
tate brown
Yeah, but it wasn't like super widespread.
tim pool
There was a TED talk where the woman was like, Have you not seen the video?
tate brown
No, I know that, but I'm just saying, look at the fervor kicked off.
tim pool
They tried to make LGBTP.
tate brown
I know, but what I'm trying to say is look at the fervor that was kicked off in the country over Epstein.
So it's like, it's clearly the one thing that I have a hard time believing would expand past like 5%, 10% of the country supporting.
I mean, the Democrats are like running on.
nick sortor
Well, the Democrats are only doing the Epstein thing because it's, you know, a political football game.
tate brown
And they have people saying 22 year old women are victims of pedophilia because they're dating a 30 year old.
Like, that's like, if anything, I think it's going the other way.
I do agree, like, there is segments of the LGBT that, like, is trying to co opt the maps.
But I'm not as worried about that.
I'm more worried about, like, this, where clearly the transgender thing is probably, if the map thing is going to get, like, laundered into the LGBT, it's going to be through the trans thing because this is a guy just taking his fetish out and his kid.
Like, that's absolutely what's going on here.
nick sortor
And I mean, you look at the numbers.
How many, do you know the number when you have two gay dudes adopting, trying children?
It's 80% boys.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
That's weird.
Yeah.
tate brown
Well, because it's obvious.
It's like, you know, Milo, he said, you know, they develop this fanatical, you know, mind warp where they just try to figure out how, with whom, and when will I molest my child.
And it's like, actually, yeah, that's like probably a good chunk of those people.
And I'm not, like, I'm not afraid of saying that.
nick sortor
And so, because it's a loophole saying it, though.
tim pool
So there was those.
Pedophiles that had a surrogacy baby because it's a loophole.
They can't adopt or be around kids, but they can't be taken from their own kids.
So they had a surrogacy baby.
tate brown
This is what I mean.
Like, I don't think the maps are going to be like celebrated.
Like, I think it's going to be a deep, dark thing that they won't publicly endorse, but it's going to get like kind of blind eye turned to it.
I think that's what's more likely to happen than like, let's have map celebration day.
I don't think that's going to happen.
I think it's going to be stories like this that are just buried on purpose.
Like, if it were going to be introduced into the zeitgeist, like you would see the mainstream media endorse it.
So the Democrats can like talk tough on pedophilia, you know, with the Epstein stuff or whatever, but.
Really, where it actually is pernicious in the United States is in these sorts of communities.
nick sortor
Because people are too afraid to talk about it.
Either they're too afraid to talk about it or it's not politically expedient for them to talk about it.
They're just going to sacrifice little boys.
unidentified
Right.
tate brown
And no one's willing to actually go back and relitigate O'Bergerville v. High.
I can't say I'm not going to.
tim pool
No, I think they will.
Clarence Thomas and Alito signaled that should it come up, they're going to overturn it.
tate brown
They'll get relitigated.
I mean, actual voters.
They don't want to go there in their head because it's already been built in that, no, we can't touch that.
I'm afraid to touch that.
Because I can't tell you the amount of Republicans that come into the room and they freeze up when I start saying, actually, gay marriage is the problem.
tim pool
And they're like, I mean, it's happened.
Brown v. Board of Education.
tate brown
Yeah, no, I think the Supreme Court might actually just relitigate it.
tim pool
I mean, Roe v. Wade, dude, is 50 years and Roe v. Wade's won.
tate brown
But the problem is how many mainstream Republicans are there that are like, I'm against gay marriage?
I mean, Trump is.
unidentified
So, millennials and up are just.
tim pool
Actually, Milo made a point when he got a tweet from Libs of TikTok celebrating Dave Rubin having surrogacy kids and then showed all of the conservatives who were congratulating Dave Rubin who are now criticizing him.
tate brown
Yeah, it was like Chris Ruffo.
I mean, a lot of guys that I like.
And I was like, Jeez, dude.
I mean, what do we?
I mean, I'm glad you learned your lesson, but like, whoa, that was a terrible decision.
tim pool
I think the issue is, you know, Dave Rubin's a good person, and these guys mocking the baby saying, no, mama, are seen as.
unidentified
Not good people.
Sure.
Yeah.
tate brown
Well, yeah.
Yeah.
So I think like if Obergefell gets overturned, nothing will change because I think every Republican state will line up to protect same sex marriage.
I think that's the likely situation because look, you got to look at like the way the demographics are moving in this country.
The country, even though like the New York Post is like, you know, oh, Zoomer's the most conservative right wing generation or Christian generation in history, the trends show that the country is still further secularizing.
The country is becoming less white.
And I'm not saying that for anything except to say that the Republican base is shrinking as a proportion of the country.
So, it's going to be harder and harder to push socially conservative policies across the finish line because I'm told reliably that these newcomers from the Middle East or from Latin America are super instinctually conservative, but they vote for the Molested Children Party.
So, you know.
tim pool
Let's bring some collars in and we'll start with Break the Chains Media.
unidentified
What is going on?
break the chains media in unknown
Hello, hello.
Can you guys hear me all right?
unidentified
What's up?
Excellent.
break the chains media in unknown
No, guys, I could literally talk about all this all day long.
I love hearing all these things.
I'm in Colorado.
So, I deal with, we just had 1312 pass, the trans.
The trans people out here are just, it's insane.
It's disgusting.
But, anyways, getting back into it, my question for the panel is going to get a little bit more esoteric, a little bit more off the rails.
You guys hit on it a little bit earlier, but talk all day about metaphysics, aliens, how it ties with the globalist agenda 2030, occult symbology, and planetary theories.
I listened to David Wilcock for almost 20 years and it opened my eyes to all kinds of stuff like this.
So, hearing that he Epstein himself, This past week is shocking and telling.
It ties right into with these other 11 ufologists, either dead or missing.
And Anna Paulina Luna and Tim Burgett actually posted on it yet this morning, too.
And interesting enough, David Wilcock actually lives in Colorado, in Boulder.
So I've been calling the Boulder County Coroner.
I'm trying to stay up to date because it technically hasn't been confirmed that it was him.
It's just kind of been an internet thing.
But, anyways, my question is.
It's very strange, but will this all lead up to a larger, maybe Project Bluebeam or something similar?
I know we have our own theories, but I think Project Bluebeam is a little bit outdated, but I think there's something new coming.
And how does this play with the unipolar push by Trump and his actions with Iran straight up Hormuz?
I got my thoughts.
What are yours?
tim pool
These are completely unrelated things.
Bluebeam is a completely unrelated thing.
I think this more has to do with surrogacy and all this stuff, and trans is transhumanism and is more closely linked to AI.
And their plans for trying to create the next stage of life through artificial intelligence.
break the chains media in unknown
Oh, yeah, no, I was just kind of touching based on what you guys are talking about.
My question doesn't really tie with the trans problem, but more about the ufologists and the aliens stuff, because I think that there is this globalist agenda that's kind of tying in with the economy, the petrodollar, and this secret technology that I think a lot of these people were associated with.
And I just wanted to kind of hear your thoughts on.
The global scale or this fog of war and the ties with the UFO.
tim pool
The UFO stuff, the scientists at Occam's Razor would just be that these are people who are touching on technology that the government doesn't want public.
That's it.
If you want to get crazy conspiratorial, we can go down a million and one different rabbit holes.
Like, you know, we can start from the most likely to the least likely.
The least likely is future people, I guess.
The most likely is researchers that are advancing technology that's like cheap, low energy propulsion will interfere with US military operations and, you know, hegemonic power, so they stop it.
The next conspiracy theory would be that they're being recruited and to build the technology or recruited and killed by China or whatever.
I don't know how it ties into anything to do with Iran, to be honest, other than military technology is not for the public.
And these people are being stopped from making it, I guess.
break the chains media in unknown
Yeah, I guess my thought is to destabilize the petrodollar system and push it more into the American hegemonic unipolar power.
That gives us the edge when, if and when, we get this advanced technology that they've been secretly working on.
And we would have that, we would be the ones holding the card, so to speak.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
What do you guys think?
break the chains media in unknown
Ian, where are you at?
tim pool
Ian's gone.
tate brown
This is an Ian conversation.
break the chains media in unknown
Oh, yes.
I was waiting for him to bark in here, man.
tim pool
Yes, Jerry.
break the chains media in unknown
Oh, wow.
Well, I guess my thought was think about it like the SPLC, right?
Like the SPLC was paying for these people to be the agent provocateurs for their own engine, right?
Scale that up to a global level, right?
So with us $39 trillion in debt, with all this black budget stuff, With all these people, these whistleblowers or these free tech, these zero point energy people, I truly believe that there is this dark project that we have been funding this whole time.
And then when this blue beam, whatever you want to call it, this false extraterrestrial person or entity comes through, that is us.
We are funding our own quote unquote enemy to then kickstart a new economic engine to unify the world.
That's kind of my thought, my theory.
nick sortor
I mean, I'll say again that I think you people give way too much credence to people in power in terms of how intelligent they are and how good they are at keeping secrets and their ability to actually create a grand conspiracy like that.
tim pool
Well, Manhattan Project compartmentalized 300,000 people.
nick sortor
Yeah, we're still in a non digital age, though, too.
tim pool
Right, that's true.
break the chains media in unknown
Yeah, I feel that.
nick sortor
That's just my counter argument.
I'm not saying it's not true.
I'm not nearly educated enough on the topic.
It is very interesting.
And looking at these guys that have either died or disappeared, and I believe now that it is confirmed that David Wilcock is dead, that it would be as simple as in order to get him to quote unquote kill himself, it'd be easy enough to.
Nobody's going to convince me that the CIA doesn't have some sort of chemical that they can slip to you somehow.
tim pool
The heart attack gun's been around for 50 years.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It shoots you with a dart that gives you a heart attack.
tate brown
Yeah.
I mean, as far as the budget, we can trace where that money's going.
Unfortunately, most of it's going to like entitlements.
GOP Incompetence Analysis 00:10:28
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
We've been running, you know, a trillion.
nick sortor
It's not going to like green aliens.
It's going to brown aliens, I guess.
tim pool
We are dealing with an alien invasion.
It's not the kind you wish.
unidentified
Yeah.
break the chains media in unknown
It's a different kind of alien.
No, I do see that.
I just think that black budgets are real.
And I think that the amount of laundering, the different shell games that they could play, it's very, it's very, Easy and you know, David Wilcock might have just been a 420 trip gone bad because he did die on 420.
Who knows?
Maybe he just got a bad batch of mushrooms and he kind of did, he kind of self checked out.
I don't know.
I'm just kind of, you know, fantasize, you know, playing off a little bit, getting off in the deep end, which is fun to do.
But, um, I appreciate you guys.
It's fun to say, and I appreciate all the work you got.
You guys do, Nick Sortor.
You guys, you crush it.
Um, Yeah.
nick sortor
Appreciate you, man.
Thank you very much.
tim pool
You want to shout anything out?
break the chains media in unknown
Yeah.
Well, outside of the fringe stuff, I do work in grounded reality in Colorado.
I do report on the NGO fraud, the homeless fraud, the immigration fraud.
I've been calling out all these politicians.
I'm keeping close tabs on the midterm and this governor's race that's heating up here.
I'd appreciate a follow from anyone.
My ex handles breakthechainsm.
I do live streams, I make shorts.
And I do think that we have to stay vigilant and separate the GOP from the R's because I think there are honestly Republican minded people who do not want to participate with the uniparty agenda.
nick sortor
Shot you a follow.
Thanks, man.
unidentified
Right on.
tim pool
Well, thanks for calling in, bro.
unidentified
Thank you.
break the chains media in unknown
Thanks, guys.
tim pool
Next up, we've got Davida23.
carter banks
What up, Davida?
tate brown
What up, Davida?
unidentified
Hey, how's it going, gentlemen?
How are you guys doing?
Pretty good.
Yo, yo.
Chilling.
All right, all right.
davida23 in unknown
So I'm calling.
I mean, honestly, this is perfect night given what you guys are all talking about.
Let's put on our tinfoil hats again.
And, okay, so instead of playing 4D, 5D, or 8D chess, what if he's playing quantum chess with the Senate?
And let's say that they let Virginia, I know the court had their ruling today, but let's say that all of these districts that are now light blue, what if other states follow suit?
And then at the last minute, they pass the Save Act, and all of those districts that were supposed to be projected blue then become slight red.
Just a theory.
tate brown
Well, I think only three of the districts and the new map in Virginia are light blue.
The rest of them are dark blue, if I remember correctly.
nick sortor
Yeah, but we wouldn't need to do that anyway.
Maybe I misunderstood the question, but there's like no real benefit to it, it doesn't change the Senate election at all in Virginia.
So it doesn't, the Senate is the problem with the Save America Act, not the House.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Yeah, and it's two Democrats.
nick sortor
So, yeah.
davida23 in unknown
No, I'm saying that if they were to, okay, let's say like three other states decide to follow Virginia's lead, right?
And they break up their heavy blue districts to turn light red districts light blue, right?
And if the Senate decides to pass the Save Act at the last minute, then in theory, if there is that many, I doubt it, but if there is that many people that are voting that shouldn't be voting, then those light blue districts would be white red.
tim pool
It's not just that it's giving us more.
Yeah.
But the issue is the districts, it's not about the voter makeup.
It's about the fact that they exist.
Illegal immigrants give them the extra seats.
The only real argument is that in a primary, which I think were passed anyway for the most part, oh, they're going to have to have primaries.
If this, how the, well, this makes no fucking sense.
They're going to have to have, if the courts actually say yes to this in the 11th hour, how the fuck are they going to have candidates?
There's no primaries.
No, who the fuck's gonna run?
Because the issue is then that they would have to moderate to capture the Republicans in that side.
nick sortor
The primary in Virginia, for example, is August 4th.
unidentified
Okay.
nick sortor
We've got time.
tim pool
But the positive of this is it eliminates the woke.
Again, I'm telling you, the conspiracy theory I've heard of in the Beltway, I don't know if you heard this, Nick, is that the breaking from Trump with Tucker, Kent, and the rumor is Gabbard, though.
My sources directly say this is not correct.
Is that they're going to try and kind of break away from Trump to create a new Democrat anti war faction.
So they attract moderates.
If they, the splitting up of these congressional seats where they're capturing Republicans into, putting them into blue districts means whoever is going to win the primary has to convince Republicans to vote for the Democratic candidate.
So, like in that lobster district, right?
It takes two big red areas and connects them to Alexandria.
That means an Alexandria politician, if they want to win a primary, To maximize their votes, they have to find the median between those Republicans in the outer areas and the people in Alexandria.
So that's going to eliminate the AOCs and the squad types.
So the Democratic Party will get rid of woke, simply put.
nick sortor
I like that.
Yeah, but again, it's not this.
You said, what did you say, quantum chess?
I like that one.
unidentified
It was pretty good.
Time traveling chess.
nick sortor
I don't know.
I don't see it as being a grand conspiracy that is really that fathomable, especially within the RNC.
It's all about, at the end of the day, which consultant is being paid through what method.
And if they're not making money through it, they're probably not going to focus too much on it.
And that's, again, why they put so much money into the Texas U.S. Senate primary rather than in Virginia.
But no, I don't think this goes nearly as deep as people want it to.
I know people want to grasp that thing.
Where they're like, you know what?
Maybe this was the actual plan.
And that's why, and trust the plan.
There is no plan, guys.
I'm sorry.
There's just not.
tim pool
Yeah.
I want to explain this because I see in the chat someone's saying it's reaching this theory.
It's not a theory.
unidentified
This is a fact.
tim pool
In a Democratic primary, if they are creating light blue districts, there's going to be three, four, five Democrats all running to be the candidate.
The socialists aren't going to win because the Republicans in those areas or the more moderate people that are being sucked in those areas are going to vote for the more moderate Democrat over the communist.
That's not a theory.
nick sortor
Are you going to win a primary in Virginia?
tim pool
No, it doesn't need to be.
They're going to, there's moderates who live in these areas as well, and independents.
That this is going to create an opportunity for moderate Democrats to crush the socialists, which I think is one thing that they actually want.
I'm not saying it's good.
I'm not saying that we want the deep state to win.
I'm saying they will have to drop woke from their campaign lists if they want to attract individuals to vote for them.
If a Democrat in a Republican area is going to be more moderate than a Democrat in Alexandria, that's my point.
So you go to Winchester, for instance, and it's blue, but it's not crazy far left blue.
It's the people who go, well, I don't know about Trump, but these woke people, I hear what you're saying.
But like, there's a guy out here that I know is an old guy, and he's like, I'm a conservative.
I voted conservative my whole life, but Trump's bad.
That guy's not voting for AOC.
nick sortor
So you're talking about the blue dog Democrats, the guys that, like, the old, the pipe fitters and such that are still registered Democrats.
tim pool
And primaries are swung by a couple thousand votes.
These are not even big.
It means the corporate deep state Dems, not the woke lunatic squad Dems.
I think this is what they want.
They want to eliminate the populist left.
nick sortor
Well, but what they're doing, though, and it's an effective tactic so far, is they're pretending to run as moderates.
And then you get somebody like Abigail Spanberger that gets in there, and I was in total just a wolf in sheep's clothing.
tate brown
And even then, like, you know, you got to look at what's the engine room of progressivism in America your AOCs, your Ilhan Omar's, and they're in deep blue seats, and that's not going to change.
And so when they're introducing legislation, they're trying to get stuff put across the finish line.
The so called moderate Democrats will vote in line with them.
You rarely see the Democrat House coalition break apart, the Republican House coalition breaks apart all the time.
tim pool
Shucks, they can.
Sorry, the conspiracy theory is to bring back the Obama Romney era of politics.
tate brown
But the problem is, people like Tucker specifically, and even Joe Kent, the social issues is really what animates Democrats.
I mean, look at what animates, what gets Democrats out.
It's like abortion, it's gay stuff.
And Tucker, I don't see him coming around and be like, trans kids, what's wrong with that?
It's like, I don't see that.
You can change their gender, it's fine.
Like, I don't see that happening.
Tulsi, maybe.
I don't know.
I know she was a little bit.
If I do recall, she actually was fairly conservative on social issues, even when she was in the Democrat Party.
So I don't know.
I mean, that'd be cool.
But the reorientation, they still got to deal with the Democrat base.
And they're not going to accept anything but like dogma, boilerplate on social issues.
I think that's where it could fall apart.
But yeah, I mean, to your point, I suppose, yeah, this is, you know, I just think it's, I think I agree with Nick.
I think this is more just incompetence from the GOP, which we're quite used to at this point.
unidentified
Unfortunately.
Yeah.
davida23 in unknown
I would agree the GOP is like absolutely incompetent.
So, or impotent.
One of the two.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
tate brown
I mean, like, look at like Ben Klein.
He's, you know, he's pretty high up in House leadership and he just got his seat wiped out.
So, like, you know, this would require movers and shakers to like voluntarily sacrifice their like committee positions and stuff.
nick sortor
They will never, ever do that.
tate brown
And Ben Klein's, I think he's good too.
So, I mean, it's a shame to see him go.
tim pool
I hate Republicans.
But the point made on the chat the other day was it's better to have Republicans who do nothing than Democrats who burn everything down.
And it's like, yeah, I know, but it still sucks because the argument is it's just slowly burning down.
tate brown
It's managed decline versus like sped up decline.
tim pool
Maybe the sped up decline.
I don't know.
I don't like accelerationism, but people make that argument.
tate brown
Well, I mean, the rebuttal to accelerationism is just South Africa.
Has it turned South Africa's electorate more right wing?
No, they just put solar panels in the roof.
Accelerationism Rebuttal 00:00:56
tim pool
All that's happened is people have.
Cages around their house and cages inside their house.
tate brown
And from inside that house, they go on Twitter and they're like slamming the right wing party in South Africa.
tim pool
I'm safe in my freedom cage.
unidentified
Yeah.
nick sortor
My freedom cage.
unidentified
That's literally what it is.
nick sortor
I think it's like more of a, like a, you know, bought on the door or bought over top of the door type thing.
It's like, you know, just spare me.
Don't, I'm going to say whatever you want me to say just so you don't hurt me.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
South Africa just appointed a new ambassador to the U.S. and he was actually like an apartheid era politician.
He's an Afrikaner.
And halfway through the Mandela era, he was just like, oh, I'm going to have no political future.
So he's just like, oh, actually, the necklacing's not that bad.
Sometimes it gets cold out.
So the warmth from the burning tire actually.
I'm just like, oh, here we go.
So yeah, that's true.
A lot of people, it is self preservation.
tim pool
Yeah, I don't know.
You want to add anything or shout anything out?
davida23 in unknown
Yeah, I washed out my amazing white.
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