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April 21, 2026 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
02:42:14
Trump DOJ INDICTS Liberals For Secretly Funding White Supremacists, SPLC CAUGHT | Timcast IRL

Tim Pool and guests dissect the DOJ's indictment of the SPLC for allegedly funneling $3 million to white supremacist groups via fictitious entities, framing it as a victory against manufactured racism. They debate Virginia redistricting results, accusing Democrats of fascist gerrymandering while noting illegal immigration boosts their congressional seats. The conversation shifts to Tucker Carlson's potential VP run with JD Vance and eschatological theories predicting a 2027 tribulation where AI and UFO declassification frame Christ's return as an alien invasion, positioning Trump as an unwitting instrument of divine will. [Automatically generated summary]

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DOJ Indicts SPLC For Fraud 00:02:54
tim pool
The Department of Justice has secured a grand jury indictment against the liberal nonprofit, the Southern Poverty Law Center.
If you're not familiar with this group, they smear any and everyone on the right with the most insane of lies.
And I can speak to that as they once accused me of traveling to Iran for a Holocaust deniers conference, which is something insane to claim, considering it's very difficult to go to Iran, let alone to go there to attend a Holocaust deniers conference is something so easily proven false.
Well, let's just say reckless disregard for the truth doesn't begin to describe it.
They've also accused our friend Luke Rudkowski of being a crazy far right anti government extremist.
They have been indicted for funneling three plus million dollars to white supremacists themselves, including the Klan.
Now, the argument is that this is fraud.
Imagine you're a donor and you're giving money to a nonprofit that's claiming to fight against white supremacy and racism while secretly funding these groups.
The accusation, they were propping up the very groups they were claiming to fight against, sounds like fraud to me.
Now, it was a grand jury that returned this indictment.
It's not like Donald Trump just rubber stamped to indict them.
And the DOJ said, okay, a group of individuals looked over the evidence and said, we think that there is a preponderance of evidence that a crime was committed.
And thus, they have now been indicted.
They will get their day in court.
But let me just say, we're going to go over some of the history of this organization, and I'm going to give you my thoughts and opinions on all of this.
I'm going to go ahead and say right away this is a massive, massive victory for the Trump administration, something we have been begging for for a long time.
I hope people do not disregard the victories that Trump Edmonds had, particularly with eliminating USAID and now the indictment against the Southern Poverty Law Center.
These are the dirty, dirty smear merchants that we have talked about for some time.
The network of NGOs funded through these illicit government programs that smear honest individuals and alternative media now getting some comeuppance.
Doesn't mean they'll be convicted.
We don't know exactly what this means for their leadership, but it's still massive.
I want to break that down.
Of course, we've got more news in Iran.
Trump says the ceasefire is staying on despite saying Iran has repeatedly violated the ceasefire.
So suffice it to say, no one has any idea what's really happening.
And anyone claiming they do know what's going on is probably trying to sell you something.
That and Tucker Carlson has issued an apology.
Saying that he's tormented for having supported Trump and he's sorry for misleading everybody.
Of course, leftists aren't accepting the apology, they're still condemning him.
And then the big election today in Virginia results are coming in over the redistricting effort.
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tim pool
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However, as of right now, the data that we have so far from the results is that no redistricting is still winning.
But we will break all of that down and talk about the insane amount of news that just broke in the past couple of hours.
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Why The SPLC Is In Trouble 00:14:59
tim pool
Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we've got Donnie Discerned.
@donniedarkened
Hey, thanks for having me.
unidentified
Who are you?
What do you do?
@donniedarkened
I am Donnie Discerned, formerly known as Donnie Darkened.
You can find me on X.
I talk about eschatology and times, stuff related to Trump, which I'm sure we'll get into.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
@donniedarkened
And I was on the culture war, what, two or three years ago?
tim pool
And you made some predictions that came true.
@donniedarkened
Yes, I did.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Yeah, that freaked me out.
That freaked me out a lot.
Basically, you told me that if Trump gets an injury to the right side of his face or arm, he may be the Antichrist.
And we were like, well, you know, now he's got this spraying bruise on his hand.
It's getting bigger.
And of course, he had.
What some people are describing, and it's always a stretch, but with Trump getting shot in the side of the head and coming down and then rising up, some people have called it a false resurrection.
So, you know, we'll talk about that later on, but good to have you and get some updates on this conversation.
Elad is hanging out.
unidentified
What up?
elad eliahu
Good evening, everybody.
Elad Aliyahu, White House correspondent here at Timcast.
Ian, good evening.
ian crossland
Yeah, you too, man.
And it's just the stimulation is high right now.
So thanks for being here, Elad.
Donnie, it's great to meet you, man.
I've been following your work for a long time.
carter banks
And, well, yeah, man, likewise.
I'm really pumped about this.
I watched The Culture War back then, and tonight's your.
Your face reveals.
So let's get into it.
unidentified
There it is.
tim pool
Everyone can see your face now.
All right, let's get to the news.
We've got this from the DOJ themselves.
Federal grand jury charges Southern Poverty Law Center for wire fraud, false statements, and conspiracy to commit money laundering.
This is massive.
They say a grand jury in Montgomery, Alabama, today returned an indictment charging the Southern Poverty Law Center with 11 counts of wire fraud, false statements to a federally insured bank, a conspiracy to commit concealment money laundering.
U.S. Attorney's Office for the Middle District of Alabama Northern Division filed two forfeiture actions.
To recover alleged proceeds of the organization's fraud scheme.
The FBI investigated this case with assistance from the IRS.
I would just like to say shout out to Kash Patel.
Grand slam with this.
I didn't even know it was coming.
Here's where it gets crazier this investigation began during the Biden administration and they shut it down.
They tried to cover this up.
This is a part of the scheme.
The game they play is they will smear you and lie about you.
That way, it can be laundered by news organizations.
So, the goal would be this NGO says we did important research and found out that Ian Crossland kicked a dog.
Then, media organizations can then report an academic institution and researchers found Ian Crossland kicked a dog.
You can't sue the news organizations because they're just referencing what an NGO said.
And the NGO just says, oops, if you actually force them to take it down.
You can't sue them because they'll claim Times v. Solo bin precedent.
You got to prove actual malice.
So, check this out.
Todd Blanch says the SPLC is manufacturing racism to justify its existence.
The SPLC allegedly engaged in a massive fraud operation to deceive their donors, enrich themselves, and hide their deceptive operations from the public, said FBI Director Kash Patel.
They lied to their donors, vowing to dismantle violent extremist groups, and actually turned around and paid the leaders of these very extremist groups, even utilizing the funds to have these groups facilitate the commission of state and federal crimes.
That is illegal.
And this is an ongoing investigation against all individuals involved.
I want to stress this.
The FBI is accusing the SPLC of providing material resources for federal crimes to white supremacy groups.
It's exactly what people have been accusing these groups of doing for a long time intentionally manufacturing the crisis they can then fundraise off of and smear everyone else in the media.
And I got some examples for you.
Here's an article from the SPLC from 2018.
Explanation and apology.
The Multipolar Spin, how fascists operationalize left wing resentment.
What does it even mean?
Well, they took it down.
They said, On March 9, 2018, we posted an article on our Hate Watch blog entitled The Multipolar Spin, how fascists operationalize left wing resentment.
Shortly after its publication, we received complaints registered by or on behalf of several journalists mentioned in the article that it falsely described one or another of them as white supremacists, fascists, andor anti Semites, and falsely accused them of engaging in a conspiracy with the Putin regime.
To promote such views, because neither we nor the article's author intended to make such accusations, we took it down while we re examined its content.
No, the reality is it opened them up to a serious lawsuit.
And I think I was actually the linchpin on this one.
Let me explain.
They say this We extend a sincere apology to those who believe that they have been falsely described, including Max Blumenthal, Ben Norton, Tim Poole, Rania Kalick, and Brian Becker, and disclaim as clearly as we can any intention to suggest that any of them are white supremacists, fascists, andor anti Semites.
that they hold such views or that they are engaged in a conspiracy with the Russian government to promote such views or otherwise.
They have been intent, intentionally trying, they and the other ilk in this network of NGO smear merchants to malign people as pro-Russian for years.
And you see how this manifests when the Biden administration actually gets the power to do that and they go after people like me once again.
They took this down and described me as an individual On the left.
Now, the reason why I think I was a lynchpin in why they pulled this down is that the author claimed I had traveled to Iran for a Holocaust deniers conference, which by any person, even if you're like a hardcore lefty, you are going to be hard pressed to claim that's not reckless disregard for the truth.
Because they're simply going to be like, is there ever been any post?
Or like, when do you think Tim Pool went there?
When did he ever go to Iran?
It's just something they literally fabricated out of thin air.
Well, they were forced to take that down.
But wait, there's more.
Check this out.
Ghosts of Harrison.
I don't know what this is about.
All I know is that I searched for Luke Rudkowski.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
This must be.
What is this article?
It's not the article that I pulled up.
Maybe it changed on me.
Anyway, let's see if I can get Rudkowski on here.
Well, he's not in this article, but I'll find it in a second.
Give me a second.
They have smeared Luke Rudkowski to an insane degree.
And if you guys know Luke, he's kind of politically unassuming.
He's not a staunch Trump supporter, he's actually fairly critical of Trump.
He's more so anti establishment and anti authoritarian than anything.
And they continually try to frame it as though he's the leader of some far right white supremacist group.
So, this is a massive victory for, let's just call it truth in this country.
Now, what we're looking for after this is an actual conviction.
But let me just point out the DOJ alleges between 2014 and 2023, the SPLC secretly funneled more than $3 million in donated funds to individuals associated with the Ku Klux Klan, United Clans of America, Unite the Right, National Alliance, the National Socialist Movement.
Aryan Nations affiliated Sadistic Souls Motorcycle Club, the American Nazi Party, and the American Front.
They say in order to covertly pay the individuals, they opened bank accounts connected to a series of fictitious entities.
The covert nature of the accounts allowed the SPLC to disguise the true nature, source, and ownership and control of the fraudulently obtained money.
The SPLC paid the individuals.
In order to keep the scheme going, the SPLC made a series of false statements related to the operation of the accounts.
A conviction will result in the forfeiture of financial gains from the alleged illegal activities.
Absolutely amazing.
ian crossland
Bro, this is like you're playing a game, you have all these creatures, all these characters.
One of them gets revealed that it's been in stealth.
It's been like an alien evil creature in your town.
And now you know, like, this is a foreign, most likely foreign funded op to destroy our country from the inside with a culture war.
It's been like one of the villains of the story, but it's been in sheep's clothing until today.
tim pool
Oh, I see.
Their website seems to be down.
The SPLC website's down.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
Check this out.
You probably pull it up Gateway Timeout.
So here's what you can see.
When you search for Luke Rodkowski, SPLC, charges against We Are Change, its leader, Luke Rodkowski.
Commented at the time that the SPLC said nothing of WAC's alleged raising money for 9 11 first responders.
We are chains later.
They say WAC.
That's what they call it.
unidentified
WAC.
tim pool
I think Luke realized.
Luke would put on his microphone W O C.
carter banks
Oh, we are chains.
Yeah.
unidentified
WAC.
tim pool
They mentioned Luke Rakowski over and over again and calling him far right and all of this stuff.
And, oh, Luke's had a tweet on it.
Let's see what he said.
So the SPLC was financing the problem that it was trying to, quote, solve.
unidentified
Indeed.
tim pool
This isn't the only one.
And I want to stress as much as people are pissed about Donald Trump and the war in Iran, whatever your arguments might be, to ignore the dismantling of USAID is to ignore one of the biggest successes that we've seen from any administration.
This was an illicit network of NGOs doing things like this, and they were shut down.
And now they're going after the SPLC.
I hope they go after a handful of other organizations that we could, well, I won't name them specifically.
ian crossland
I know they have some thoughts as well.
unidentified
Indeed.
carter banks
You too.
unidentified
Yep.
ian crossland
I think we will be seeing things like that in the near future.
tim pool
This is incredible.
unidentified
This is.
This is because.
tim pool
I mean, this should bump Trump's approval up by three points.
ian crossland
Like taking.
tim pool
Sure, I'm not saying it will.
unidentified
Right.
ian crossland
Do people understand the esoteric value of it?
I hope so.
I hope this is sinking in.
Like, it's one thing taking Venezuela.
I understand, you know, securing oil trade.
But disemboweling the culture warrior, like the enemy culture warrior is like, bro, we just, like, we could have.
carter banks
It's precedent setting.
ian crossland
So much of what is going to happen is about what the people want.
So, with.
Things like this that have been manipulating people.
I mean, it's just like the tentacles have been severed, it feels like, or the octopus has been extracted from the brain.
@donniedarkened
Yeah, you know, I almost feel kind of vindicated as like a conservative leading black man because, like, I'm like a black sheep in my family because my family's mostly Democrat.
And, like, I've always said, like, man, I feel like this racism, this white supremacist thing is kind of overblown.
I feel like it's almost a vindication for like me, you know, in a way.
ian crossland
It felt like that since 2014 to me or 2013, that, like, it just got so many views and they're like, ooh, and then.
Who knows why AI picked up?
Obviously, China, other countries that have massive technology but not the military are trying to whip up a frenzy on American shores.
Well, it ain't happening.
tim pool
I wonder how many, you know, I have another, I have a question about one organization I can bring up, and that's the ACLU.
And the reason is the ACLU actually defended Unite the Right in Charlottesville until they started bleeding a bunch of donors and then they flipped on a dime.
I'm wondering if something changed at a lot of these NGOs or organizations.
I'm also wondering if there was government or what's it called, intelligence agency or deep state pressure put on these organizations to become weapons.
ian crossland
Probably during COVID, it felt like the whole world decided to play their hand.
Or, like, the whole world, the World Economic Forum, the people that wanted to corporatize the globe and destroy governments is like, and they went full in, but they couldn't beat us because we have the internet and people like Brett Weinstein and Robert Malone and people that were just fearlessly, you know, just the tip of the.
And ever since, I think this is part of it, like, probably big bribery kicked off around that time, you know, the printing of the, what, 10 trillion in money since that happened.
Sorry, Eli, do you realize why?
elad eliahu
No, I mean, I think this is the end result of when demand for racism outstrips the supply and.
The SPLC had to manufacture more racism because the Democrats run on the racism industrial complex, right?
If you need a fear monger around white supremacy, if that's your goal with your narrative and spin, and you're lacking that, then you really need to manufacture it.
And that's what I guess these guys have been doing over the course of, what, seven years now?
People who were former Ku Klux Klan guys, and all these guys are just feds.
ian crossland
It's crazy.
They were funding people that turned out to be undercover feds.
Is that what happened?
You're saying?
elad eliahu
Because I understand they turned.
A lot of people who were former KKK guys, or here, I have something specific right now.
Um, one of the SPLCs they paid a member of the National Alliance over one million dollars.
I think this National Alliance is some like fascist group that's the Nazi Party, isn't it?
Yeah, so between 2022 and 2023, the SPLC, no, no, it's not, it's not.
tim pool
The National Alliance is different from the Nazi Party.
elad eliahu
F9 was affiliated with the neo Nazi organization, the National Alliance, that's what it says in the indictment, and served as an informant for the SPLC for more than 20 years.
And that's where, over the course of 2014 and 2023, they secretly paid him over $1 million.
ian crossland
Oh, the SPLC had an informant in that.
tim pool
Here's the thing to understand the argument that they make is that, no, no, these are informants to us because we're trying to stop them.
The only problem is the indictment is that the money was being given for the commission of federal crimes.
So, my response to, because I guarantee you the response from liberals is going to be Trump's weaponized DOJ is going after people fighting white supremacy, and this proves it.
My response is how do you think the SPLC would fund federal crimes through white supremacy groups?
Do you think they're going to just claim they were directly giving money to white supremacists?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
If it were true that they had informants for the intention of disrupting these groups, they wouldn't have created fake bank accounts for fake entities.
They would have tried to obfuscate this.
They would have outright just paid the guys and said, You're an informant for us.
ian crossland
Like O'Keeffe Media Group.
I imagine he pays the people with his company, O'Keeffe Media Group.
It's on the books.
tim pool
The people who are undercover reporting are employees.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
ian crossland
He's doing it on the books.
These guys were not.
tim pool
And that's the fraud.
But more importantly, they were committing crimes.
That's the allegation.
So the SPLC is like, You're an informant, and the money is going to go to commit crimes, but it's to stop the crime.
carter banks
You're like informing on yourself.
You've got to commit the crime.
tim pool
I think the reality is the SPLC wanted them to commit crimes, and that's why they allegedly were hiding the money through fictitious entities.
They want Unite the Right.
They want those rallies because then they go, oh, oh no.
You know what it is?
ian crossland
Yes.
tim pool
Do you guys remember Danny and Danny Polishuk and Ryan Long's Antifa window repair company?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They're like, at night, we're Antifa and we go smash windows.
Then we put our business cards.
The next day, we repair the windows.
That's what it is.
carter banks
It's a perfect business.
ian crossland
Sure, you fund the enemy, and now you have an enemy's out.
tim pool
There is no Antifa.
There never has been.
It's just a ton of local window repair companies are putting on black masks and going like, oh, Trump's a fascist and smashing windows.
Alt Right Origins And Lies 00:15:40
ian crossland
COVID was rough.
We suffered too in that economy.
You understand?
We had to do something.
carter banks
You know?
elad eliahu
This is a conveniently timed win, I will say, though, for Kash Patel, who's been, I think, desperate for a big win like this for some time.
Let's hope to see this indictment actually go here.
There's obviously a lot of allegations in here, but we have seen the DOJ come forward with a lot of these different indictments towards a lot of different lawmakers that. hasn't gone anywhere that's been kind of disappointing.
So hopefully this does actually go somewhere.
I think this is Todd Blanche's first indictment.
tim pool
Well, so just understand the grand jury returned this today.
So the moment the indictment came in, we got to press release an announcement.
Yes, I agree, Cash needed this victory, but I don't think it's intentionally timed.
But it is convenient.
elad eliahu
Well, Pam Bondi missed on the spoils for this, right?
I think this is one of Todd Blanche's first days as the new Eternally, I think, at least acting right now.
tim pool
Oh, yo, yo.
The indictment actually has some of the evidence.
Check this out.
They say, honor of the dates listed below, the following false or misleading statements were made to an FDIC insured financial institution.
I, employee one, certify that I am the sole owner of the above name proprietorship, federal tax ID number, redacted, engaged in business under the trade name of Center Investigative Agency.
So they had people opening bank accounts masquerading as sole props that were funneling money from the SPLC to white supremacists.
elad eliahu
Yeah, they used multiple shell corporations, that is, to try to.
tim pool
Wow.
I. In 2016.
ian crossland
I don't want to, I'm not going to gush over cash because I know I'm personally, maybe I'm a little biased.
tim pool
I'm sorry.
ian crossland
I love that he's so based, dude.
tim pool
I got it.
This is crazy.
In 2020, Bank One conducted an internal investigation to the accounts.
Thereafter, an SPLC employee requested Bank One close the accounts associated with the CIA.
I'm not kidding.
It's called the Center Investigative Agency.
unidentified
CIA.
tim pool
This is nuts.
I would not be surprised if it were true.
It was literally the CIA.
That's why they kept trying to malign people as Russians.
ian crossland
Yeah, yeah.
There was a lot of anti Russian propaganda.
unidentified
People are evil.
ian crossland
That all started off in 2015, also, all that anti Russian propaganda.
elad eliahu
Do you know what's fascinating?
The timing of this is for the first Trump campaign, right?
In 2016.
ian crossland
Yeah, right when Hillary and Trump were debating, it just came in force.
elad eliahu
Well, this was all to help build a narrative against President Trump, or well, before he came president, then immediately after he was elected.
ian crossland
I think they expected Hillary to win and go to war, and then we'd have enough hatred of the Russians and be like, see, and Trump was one of them.
Now we can, yeah, but what happened was Trump won, and they're like, well, now we gotta get this stuff.
elad eliahu
Because this mostly happened between 2015 and 2023.
So the SPLC needed to manufacture this stuff as Trump was getting into office.
unidentified
Who knows?
elad eliahu
Because again, the demand was outstripping the actual supply for the racism going on here.
How do you feel as, I don't know, are you black?
@donniedarkened
Yeah, yeah, I'm black.
Yeah, I'm pretty, yeah, like I said, I mean, it's crazy.
Like, I really hope my Democrat family members see this, and like, I hope it wakes them up to some degree, because like, you know, I'm always misaligned as like Uncle Tom or whatever by them for, you know, being conservative leading and like, you know, not going hard enough against white supremacy or whatever, like, whatever it is.
ian crossland
So, do you guys talk about geopolitics a lot?
@donniedarkened
Sometimes.
I mean, they kind of avoid talking about politics and like culture stuff with me anyway.
ian crossland
So, are they familiar with like the liberal economic order, the banking establishment, and all that?
@donniedarkened
Yeah, I doubt it.
ian crossland
Whenever I get into it with like people with different political alignments, I refocus them on the liberal order of banking that's kind of like pulling strings, at least.
When you see things like this, you realize, oh, the money's pushing, and I don't know, then they start to understand like, no, it doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on, a corporate government would be horrible for everybody.
So that can kind of get people real.
@donniedarkened
A little bit on board, right?
Yeah.
ian crossland
Big time.
elad eliahu
So do black people show love to the president, or is it still, I don't know, is it still an 80 20 thing?
@donniedarkened
I mean, you know, I would say in my friend group, I mean, they're definitely less on the Trump is racist train than they were back in 2016.
In 2016, I remember when I was really big on Trump, a lot of people hated on me big time, calling me all sorts of names.
elad eliahu
Are you more of a Trump supporter or a Republican, do you think?
Because I know Trump's brought a lot of different people on board that may not have been Republican in the past, but voted Republican because of him.
@donniedarkened
Well, I voted for Trump in 2016 and I voted for him in 2020.
And before I developed this whole theory about him, I was really big on Trump.
And I would consider myself more of just a conservative.
You know, I've always been more conservative leaning.
And, you know, I never saw the white supremacist boogeyman as like a real thing.
I always, you know, my experiences with white people have always been good.
You know, I'm not one of those guys who's like, oh man, like we got to, you know, the white people, they try to get us.
You know, it's never really been my thing.
tim pool
And I'm sorry, just to go back to this, I really want to stress, can I find that stupid, where was that indictment at?
unidentified
There it is.
tim pool
I really want to stress, guys, you need to understand that the name of one of the fictitious entities was the CIA.
They created a sole prop, according to the indictment, called the Center Investigative Agency that was funneling money, according to the indictment, funneling money to white supremacists.
It's called the CIA.
I'm going to go ahead and say this.
I think it is intelligence.
Real quick, I want to be right.
ian crossland
Because if it wasn't, that would be like spitting on the CIA when they found out.
They wouldn't risk it.
carter banks
I feel like they're going to fall with a different name, though.
tim pool
I'm going to wrap this all up for you guys and just.
Give a brief overview of what I think is going on based on my experience.
At the time when this article was published, March 9th, my birthday, by the way, 2018, the article that the SPLC was forced to take down was attacking individuals who were critical of US involvement in Syria, of which I was passively critical of it, mocking that the media only praised Trump as presidential when he fired 59 Tomahawk missiles into Syria.
The purpose of this article, back then, the phrase alt right.
Initially, this is in 2016, it meant an alternative to the conservative base.
So there were many individuals who were traditional conservatives, not white supremacists, who identified as alt right.
Then along came the Associated Press, issuing their guidelines saying that alt right means white nationalist.
At that moment, retroactively, anyone who ever claimed they were alt right, there was now proof they admitted they were white nationalists.
That was the psyop.
So.
There are some individuals, I'm gonna leave people's name out of it because it's kind of an old issue, but this matters for where I'm going.
You go on X and people say, We are no longer the conservative base, we're an alternative to the right, saying that Trump represents something other than Bush and the neocons.
Someone would then tweet, I stand with the alt right or something like that.
Then the AP changes the definition to mean white nationalist.
Journalists then grab tweets from a year prior and wrote new articles saying, Remember when conservative admitted they were a white nationalist?
That was the psyop.
This article was a desperate attempt to link leftists like Max Blumenthal.
I don't even call him a leftist, but he's a lefty.
They wanted to link Max Blumenthal.
They wanted to criticize him and discredit him.
The problem is, people like him and Jimmy Dore that criticized the US involvement in the Middle East were not lining up with the Democratic Party.
Many liberals that used to be anti war were just anti Trump at this point.
So these individuals that were anti Trump were also anti intervention and were massively critical.
Including Rania Kalik as well, who still is.
This was a manipulation by the SPLC to say they're the same.
So they put my name in it.
This is actually an archive of the article, The Syria Connection.
Let me add to the mix.
Tulsi Gabbard at the time was being smeared much the same way over her criticism of U.S. involvement in Syria.
I believe that we're going to see something from Tulsi in this capacity.
I believe U.S. intelligence agencies were intending to discredit as many individuals as possible.
By doing two things, calling them white supremacists, fascists, or Russians.
Now, obviously, they failed in this regard because we all got together for a major lawsuit.
And let me see this.
Let me show you where I appear.
Hands off Syria Coalition Steering Committee member Issa Chair joined Mason on a panel at the second New Horizons Conference in Iran in 2012.
Conference speakers that year included World Workers' Party member Caleb Maupin, alt right journalist Tim Poole, Holocaust in Iraq.
I've never been with that.
ian crossland
Well, you spoke at the fictitious event in Iran.
tim pool
No, it was a real event, I guess.
elad eliahu
Is this when you did the Chatham House meeting with Ayatollah as well?
tim pool
In Iran.
And I'll tell you exactly how this came to be.
It was because their website listed me for some reason.
unidentified
Don't know why.
tim pool
I wonder if the whole thing, even the website, actually, can we pull up the archive?
ian crossland
That was a setup.
tim pool
Yeah, I think.
Let's see if Web Archive actually has the old website.
Look at this.
I don't care about whatever your funding garbage is.
This is the website.
I'm going to go ahead and say this, guys.
I would not be surprised to find that US intelligence spooks made a fake Iranian website, put names of people they wanted to smear, laundered an article through the SPLC so they can claim that I went there.
And then, if we sued, they'd make the argument don't look at us, the website exists.
And it would be impossible for me to track down a website made by proxy in some foreign country.
I think what we're looking at is a psyop from the get go to destroy independent media and personalities who opposed the US.
The machine, what the Democratic Party had been doing.
Tulsi Gabbard, of course.
So they're calling me alt right and claiming that I was at an event.
Now, here's the thing the source they have, the website doesn't even exist.
It was an archive of an Iranian website claiming that I was a speaker.
Look at this.
I guess this is the website.
And 9 11 Truth, History of False Flags, Zionist Fingerprints.
I wonder where I pop up in here.
Let me see if I can search for my name.
ian crossland
It's like a Thursday night.
tim pool
There we go.
Different facets of the resistance with.
Medea Benjamin, Tim Poole, and Caleb Muppet.
carter banks
I've never been to Iran.
You want those people?
Supposedly.
ian crossland
We should get Medea Benjamin.
Is she still super radical?
elad eliahu
I think she has been to Iran, though.
They're grouping you with people who I think have.
unidentified
I think.
elad eliahu
The Caleb guy?
unidentified
Of course.
carter banks
That's crazy.
tim pool
Again, and the sole prop they created was called the Center Investigative Agency.
That's wild, dude.
ian crossland
The mask is off, dude.
They were like, 2019, they're like, we are going for it.
tim pool
And now let's bring it to the future.
What happened in the past two years?
Merrick Garland comes out and claims Russians were secretly funding me, Dave Rubin, Benny Johnson, a handful of other people.
And then a month, it's a month before the election, claim this.
And then a month after the election, they told our lawyers it was dropped and there was no longer an investigation.
It was fake the whole time.
These are deep state evil individuals.
They are trying to discredit those that challenge their schemes.
And the worst part, the worst part about it is they're bad at it.
If they were good at it, I'd be impressed, but they're bad at it.
elad eliahu
It's a fascinating business strategy.
Fund and plant the story, report on it, then fundraise from it and fearmonger based on the informants that you set up going there.
So I think they were involved for some of the Unite the Right stuff.
Dude, that was a sick propaganda win for the left.
All of that.
And then the following implications with the presidents, the lie of there are fine people on both sides hoax.
So this really just snowballed into a crisis for Republicans that was.
Manufactured in part by the SPLC.
So they were very effective in their anti right wing propaganda.
And I'm sure from their perspective, they'd say the ends justify the means.
I'm sure they don't give a shit about whatever integrity or what have you.
If they were able to move the needle and help fear monger that the Republicans or there is a white supremacy issue in our country, then they succeeded in spreading their false message.
carter banks
It's like a weird Ponzi scheme.
elad eliahu
Yeah, a weird leftist effective Ponzi scheme.
tim pool
I don't think so.
elad eliahu
SPLC has a rich history of.
Fighting for his civil rights is under threat.
tim pool
I don't believe that's what it is.
I think this is a front for intelligence.
And they, I mean, again, I can use the example of this weird article where they, like, this is what they're doing, right?
Like I mentioned, the AP guidelines, let me see if I can pull up AP guidelines alt right and show you exactly what they created.
I got it right here.
So, this is, I wonder if there's a date on this.
There isn't.
Okay, November 28th, 2016.
They said the term alt right, alternative right, is a name currently embraced by some white supremacists and white nationalists, refer to themselves and their ideology.
So, you had a handful of prominent Trump supporters who are not white nationalists.
They opposed foreign intervention, supported populism, Donald Trump, and they had claimed that this phrase alt right was being used initially.
There's a dude I know who's a comedian, not a political guy.
Back in like 2017, like early 2017, I'm hanging out with him.
I think it was in DC.
And he mentions that he was alt right.
And I said, Yeah, but you don't mean that in the way they're using it in the media.
And he's like, What do you mean?
And I said, Well, AP said it means white supremacists.
I said, No, not that.
I thought it just meant like I oppose the Republicans.
And I was like, Yeah, that's what it used to mean.
So the AP changes it.
They create this guideline.
Then, as I mentioned, a bunch of news outlets start going, Here are people admitting they were white supremacists.
Notably, they went after Jack Posobic.
For this reason, as well as a handful of other people.
This is laundering.
This is psyops.
So, again, when you can't smear people like Rania Kalick or Ben Norton or Max Blumenthal, you have to write a weird article that does this Russian state media through think tanks and botnets and influence groups and mainstream media to try and claim how fascists operationalize left wing resentment.
They needed to find a way to claim that people who were left were actually in line with white supremacists so they could smear.
Again, Rania Kalick, me, Max Blumenthal, et cetera.
This, I think it's intelligence agencies.
They were trying, I'm just so offended by how bad they were at it that they had to take it down and apologize.
That's just, I'm just offended.
ian crossland
I thought the great, I mean, the whole, they fumbled, they flubbed the great reset.
They were trying to do that garbage.
Klaus Schwab did a book.
And then they did, well, I said they did, then COVID happened.
And then, oh, all of a sudden it was like, oh, yeah, the great, no, a great reset.
And it's like, bro, you already released that book a year ago.
Do you not think we see what you're trying to do, Klaus?
The whole, I mean, most people are pretty dumb.
I would say, relative to me.
No, no.
Most people, I think half the people, someone less than 50%.
Gerrymandering And Electoral Votes 00:16:27
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Just most people, they don't, they just, like, you know what?
ian crossland
This would have flown if people didn't push back on it.
You just assume people wouldn't push back on it.
tim pool
You know what Dunning Kruger is?
ian crossland
I'm joking.
tim pool
I don't think it's like, I better not, I better take that back.
elad eliahu
I wouldn't blame you.
I think most people think they're smarter than the average person.
unidentified
Of course.
ian crossland
What a, like, a blatant, I mean, it's not like they didn't try to cover their tracks.
They put it out.
They expected no resistance.
They're like, let's test the waters.
Let's put out this insane story about Tim Poole.
And then there was pushback.
They're like, oh, crap, delete it, run away.
tim pool
Well, it's because of who Max's dad is.
ian crossland
Sidney Blumenthal.
unidentified
Indeed.
Yeah, Sidney.
tim pool
And so it was like, you were about to get in.
These are people with resources.
ian crossland
Sidney's.
tim pool
Additionally, we were going to go to trial on this.
And my lawyer was just like, I really look forward to asking a jury or to ask, in a deposition, asking the guy who wrote this.
Do you believe that Iranian Holocaust denier websites are credible sources of information?
Because he will have to respond, yes.
And they can't have that on their record because then it would show reckless disregard for the truth.
Or he would have to admit that he thought this.
ian crossland
Man, this liberal, I do want to help the liberal economic order evolve to a better system.
But like, see what Trump is doing.
We were talking about lying earlier about discernment, actually, your name about like deception as a good thing.
And that, I think it can be good.
It can be really good if it's used in the right opportunity.
But, and then maybe these people are justifying it that way.
They're like, oh, no, it's good.
We have to deceive the people to get this agenda across.
And if we don't get this agenda across, we're going to World War III.
It's going to be a nuclear catastrophe.
We got to put these people in pods.
And then they're just like, maybe they've then get obsessed with that idea.
And now it's this reinforced economic movement.
tim pool
Well, let's jump to the next scheme that we got going on.
We've got this from the New York Times Interactive.
They say how both parties are slicing urban areas to tilt the house.
Well, my friends, as of right now, we are currently waiting for the election results for Virginia redistricting's referendum.
With 78% of the votes in, no is currently at 50.46%, to yes at 49.54%.
It is neck and neck, and it is closing.
Initially, no had a strong lead, but that lead is shrinking now to only about 22 or so thousand votes.
As more urban districts come in, it may shift.
But for the most part, we are getting reporting from almost all the districts.
Now, for those that are not familiar with what this is, Virginia, in response to Republican states redistricting mid decade, are trying to pass a referendum to allow the state to eliminate.
All of their right leaning districts.
Currently, it's a six to five map, considered to be fair and balanced.
For the most part, right now, I believe you've got slightly lean Democrat districts that could swing Republican.
With the new map, they will completely eliminate all but one Republican district.
So you take a look at this, and I'll show you why this is so egregious.
You take a look at the map of Virginia, and you can see this right now the current makeup of Virginia.
The new map would put five Republicans.
Districts into Arlington and Fairfax County, which is just right here, this giant Democrat cluster.
Currently, there's one cluster here for Arlington that's a district.
You then have the rest of Fairfax.
The 10th and the 7th border that.
They all lean Democrat, but these two are massive Democrat districts.
Seems pretty fair.
What they're doing now, take a look at this.
This one, the 7th district, is called the lobster because it stretches up like a lobster claw and has this little thin strip that goes straight into Arlington.
That way, they can saturate Democrat voters into this conservative district and eliminate their voices.
Now, you may say, but Tim, they did it in Texas.
Sure did.
By all means, make that argument.
I won't argue it with you.
Liberals, you win.
Now, let's go to Virginia, where Democrats are voting to strip the Democratic rights of conservatives in the state because they're mad about what some other state is doing.
Tell me you don't believe in democracy without telling me you don't believe in democracy, and that's what you get.
elad eliahu
Yeah, that is the core argument I do hear from Democrats that the president started this by pushing Republicans in Texas to redistrict, which ultimately ended up failing.
That didn't stop the Democrats from trying to push the same thing in Virginia.
What's fascinating, too, is that former President Obama is actually pushing this as well.
If this does, if this does, I think it's going to go yes.
What'd you say?
tim pool
I think yes is a guarantee at this point.
They're going to redistrict and eliminate conservative seats from Virginia.
elad eliahu
This would make it almost a guarantee that the Democrats would get the majority in the House in the following midterms.
And that's almost guaranteed impeachment for the president and endless investigations for everybody in the administration, really.
So this would completely retard the administration's progress and work.
unidentified
Hey, whoa, whoa.
Whoa.
ian crossland
It doesn't sound like it is.
Is this like their House passed the bill?
Is that where it's at right now?
elad eliahu
Well, it's a proposition.
So they passed it so the voters could vote on it in Virginia.
As I understand, there's a lot of.
tim pool
Currently, the betting markets.
Actually, I should pull this one out.
Go ahead, Ian.
unidentified
Take it away.
ian crossland
Oh, well, since this new governor of Virginia got in, I've.
elad eliahu
Spanberger?
ian crossland
Yeah, I've been eyeballing a lot of crazy stuff.
It's not over.
You know, obviously, public pressure and public will will change the outcome.
So stay loud, stay aggressive about what you believe about it.
If you don't like it, say something about it.
elad eliahu
I'm no.
I'd need to look into the law to make sure of this, but I feel as though this would get challenged and probably go up to Virginia Supreme Court and then.
The Supreme Court of the United States.
And there is allegedly a conservative majority of right wing members.
There should be in the Supreme Court.
So we'll see what they ultimately do.
tim pool
So over on Kalshi, it jumped up to 99.7% likelihood that it's going to pass.
And I think that's fair and accurate.
Now, we've seen some pollsters already say they're calling it.
The reason why I think it's fair to say is currently that no has a 21,000 vote lead.
However, when you take a look at Alexandria, with only 29% of the votes in, there's 81,000 yes votes.
So, if we were to just extrapolate that for Alexandria, multiply those numbers by three, then they're going to jump up another 160K yes votes.
And they're only going to fill in about, so it's going to be a 50,000 vote advantage once Fairfax County comes in.
And indeed, we just got the update, and sure enough, it tracks alongside this.
With 50% of the votes in, there's now 138 yes votes.
I believe that just put yes over the edge, as predicted in real time when it literally just came in as I was describing what was going on.
Yes is going to take this one.
If you live in Virginia, your rights have been taken away by Democrats who are arguing it's for democracy.
elad eliahu
Yeah, Tim, let's flesh this out a little bit more.
How would you respond to people who do make the argument that the Republicans picked this fight and are losing it now?
tim pool
Texas and Virginia are different states.
A resident of Virginia has a right to be heard in the federal government.
Democrats deciding to take their voices away just prove that they are power hungry fascists more concerned with fighting far away individuals than they are allowing the individual to have their rights to speak.
If you want to make the argument that Texas did the same to Democrats, Agreed.
Thank you, Democrats, for pointing this out.
Wow, Republicans are bad people.
Does that mean you have a right to be fascist too?
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Well, thanks for explaining it.
You're fascist.
elad eliahu
Yeah, but they were unsuccessful at being bad.
What does that mean about the majority of our party?
As I understand, did it pass in Texas as well?
They're redistricting?
tim pool
I thought they already did it.
elad eliahu
I didn't think it passed.
Maybe I'm.
tim pool
Yeah, I thought that it's currently with Virginia puts Democrats over the edge, but correct me if I'm wrong.
elad eliahu
Let me look up the reporting on that.
ian crossland
While you're doing that, I want to shout out Luke Rutkowski, who's in the chat.
tim pool
I would add this to the mix.
If you want to get partisan, Democrat gerrymandering in the Northeast, like Massachusetts, what is it?
It's slightly greater than the third Republican with zero Republican seats.
Democrats have been doing this forever.
So when Republicans finally say, okay, we're going to redistrict right now to push back on Democrat gerrymandering, and they respond by just stripping the voices of conservatives, it's just fascism.
Take a look at Illinois.
Do I have this stupid Illinois map?
I love the Illinois.
Watch this.
You're going to love Illinois's congressional districts.
Take a look at this one.
I love the 13th, which takes Champaign Urbana and combines it with Springfield and East St. Louis in a thin little strip.
But you know what?
I got to give the 17th, Illinois 17th, a big shout out.
Bloomington, Peoria, and then it wraps around and grabs Rockford.
Illinois is one of the most corrupt states in the country.
It is a vile and disgusting political place.
You've got dirty cops with black sites, you've got mafioso politics for sale.
Illinois is as dirty as it comes as far as states go.
I got to tell you, it's Al Capone City, baby.
ian crossland
I keep thinking about the future of voting, about Because I visualize heat maps, you look at this map, that's insane.
I feel like when you vote, it should affect the area around you.
It doesn't matter where the borders are.
Like, if I live, because I live on a border right now of two states, of multiple states, my votes should affect that other state.
It's like a mile away from me, and my votes should not affect 180 miles east in my own state that I'm nowhere near.
I should be voting in my locality only, regardless of what state that means.
That's my opinion.
Otherwise, so I'll tell you.
tim pool
Uh, let me pull up something, uh, from Third Way.
And I talked about this in my 4 p.m. segment.
Is illegal immigration really a democratic plot to sway congressional apportionment?
So, Third Way purports to be, I think they're like their shtick is that they're Democrats, but they're not woke, they're trying to be reasonable.
It is a fact.
Illegal immigrants give Democrats extra congressional seats.
It is mixed whether they get extra electoral college votes, and I will explain.
When you look at this assessment, they say, take a look at Pew.
And the Center for Immigration Studies, which created the mirage that Democrats get more congressional seats based on illegal immigration.
They point out that while it is true, illegal immigrants do create seats and redistribute seats, meaning there's a finite amount of seats.
So if New York gets an extra one, another state's going to lose one.
So you can see Alabama loses a seat, California gains a seat, Minnesota loses a seat, they're Democrat.
New York gains a seat, they're Democrat too.
Ohio loses a seat, Texas gains a seat, Republican, Republican.
Therefore, it's zero, right?
Based on that math, it bears out that there is zero to one extra seat for Democrats.
I was worried for a minute.
Oh, wait.
Track any data source, and you'll find that illegal immigrants are centered around sanctuary cities, which are deep urban environments.
So when a Democrat or Republican state gets an extra seat, it's going to be a Democrat seat.
Get it?
So let's say you've got in New York, for instance, New York City has 836,000 illegal immigrants.
That means the city itself gets one extra congressional seat.
That seat for New York State is going to be in New York City.
That means there is a whole seat in New York City just because of illegal immigration.
Now you can go to Texas.
Ah, Texas.
They gain a seat from this as well.
Yes, that gained seat is going to be around Houston or Austin, it is going to be around liberal centers with a high density of Democrats.
It's giving Democrats another congressional seat.
So, this is a lie.
When you actually base the extra seats on where they are, because congressional seats are not by state, the number becomes an average, according to their data, around two to four extra congressional seats for Democrats based on illegal immigration.
I bring this up.
When Democrats come to me and say, well, Republicans started it, I say, no, that's a lie.
Democrats have been getting around two to four extra seats through illegal immigration.
Gerrymandering, which I experienced in my home state of Illinois, which is a nightmare, and you can see it in the North Atlantic in the Northeast.
Now, Texas finally says, okay, we're going to redistrict to deal with this, and all the Democrats rush out to silence democracy.
These people are evil.
That's it.
You know, I think the Republicans and the Democrats were the same thing until Trump came along.
It was the deep state.
The independent media voices that were rising up were viewed to be bad, so they ran psyops against me and many other people.
They started losing, and now some of the people they went after are in the government.
Namely Tulsi Gabbard.
I hope, as DNI, she is contributing and she helps Kash Patel dismantle these crony scumbags.
ian crossland
Yeah.
Well, two things.
What would appear in its place once it's dismantled?
tim pool
Because the Trump world order, I guess.
unidentified
Maybe.
tim pool
I think that's what we're watching happen.
Again, it's really hard to figure out.
But Trump claims Iran violated the ceasefire.
Then a few hours later, he goes, we're going to keep the ceasefire.
And I'm just like, there isn't one.
Like, what?
Trump, you said they violated the ceasefire.
Again, I think the intended condition is just what you see and not what they say.
Actions speak louder than words.
If you come to me and tell me something and then I watch you do something else, I just don't believe you.
And I've been saying this the whole time.
I've told this story.
I've had friends.
They would say things to me like, I want to do what you do when I was working for Vice.
How do I travel the world?
I say, save up your money, buy a ticket, and go do it.
And they'd say, Well, but my apartment, my rent is so expensive.
And I'd say, I don't have an apartment.
I was working for Vice, sleeping on a couch.
They'd say, Well, I like my apartment.
I'm like, Indeed.
You want your apartment more than you want to travel and do journalism.
That's fine.
But stop pretending otherwise.
That's the truth.
So when Trump says we're going to open the straight, but then blockades it, And then says we're not like, and then takes every action to keep it closed.
I don't think his intention is to open it up, which indicates a new hegemonic power structure, largely not centered in Europe like it used to be, where Trump is controlling the Western hemisphere and now cutting China off from their energy.
You then point to what Cash is doing with the SPLC, the dismantling of USAID, and it does look like the Trump administration is actually gutting the deep state.
I think people are mad because they want to see Hillary Clinton locked up, but I think what they're doing.
Is, and I hope, I don't know, I could be wrong, is going after the root structures.
ian crossland
Yeah, let go of the vendettas and focus on the future.
You get, you need to re fertilize the soils.
tim pool
Dismantling USAID was a hundredfold better than arresting a single crony that we see on TV.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah.
ian crossland
It's almost, and sometimes those boring, seeming boring things where it's like, we went through and itemized 17 billion in fraud waste, and you're like, oh my God, numbers, databases, guy I don't know telling me is way more important than getting Hillary Clinton to get embarrassed.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
@donniedarkened
A lot of people are acting like Trump's losing and in all these fronts, but I think there's a lot going on sort of behind the scenes, and he's doing things that are probably much more effectual than people might seem to realize at the time.
But we'll see how it pans out.
elad eliahu
Do you think that this will embolden the president now to just not consider, not have any considerations for the midterms?
So he's thinking, I'll just do whatever the hell I want now.
tim pool
I think that Trump's got a plan.
I don't think it's largely just, I'll do whatever I want now.
The midterms do matter, but I wonder if, like, I'm just going to say this the indictment against the SPLC is like the white pillist of white pills.
It is like a white suppository glowing on a pedestal floating before our very eyes that when you grab it goes, and it plays that beautiful fanfare from The Legend of Zelda.
I am hoping this indicates there are actually more moves behind the scenes to dismantle these mechanisms that they use.
To win their elections.
Trump's Plan And White Pills 00:14:45
ian crossland
Yeah, I like that you called it the Trump world order.
I mean, I don't, I'm not, I didn't come up with it.
I'm not like a cultist or anything, but they're, the old order, I did not come up with that.
I'm, I'm citing, but the old, the old New World order seemed to be like a business strategy out of Davos.
The new New World order is getting rid of that Davos taint with this global economic money.
They're going to reset the economy.
I know that still sucks.
It'll still be devastating.
And then they're going to turn it into a crypto economy and then do the tracking technocracy, which you still get the technocracy, which was the problem, but at least it won't be a Swiss.
Thing, it'll be an American thing, I think, is the goal.
@donniedarkened
Yeah, I've said for a long time, you know, I think Trump is going to essentially take down that deep state, you know, old world order and kind of build up a new one that's like just totally different.
And I've been saying that for years, that I think that's going to happen, you know.
tim pool
I think so.
elad eliahu
I wanted to correct something that I said earlier.
So the Texas legislator passed the redistricting maps, and then a lower court ruled two to one that it was unconstitutional.
Then it went to the Supreme Court that issued a temporary stay, a 6 3.
Full stay.
And then for the next election, the maps will be the new maps.
But then in fall of 2026, the Supreme Court will hear arguments for it.
And it is likely, we'll see what will happen after that.
But as far as 2026 goes, it'll be the new maps.
But this is still.
unidentified
Right, right.
tim pool
Democrats, if you want to argue that Republicans are fascists, you have done so ad nauseum.
If Virginia wants to say, but look what Texas did, I'll say, that's really interesting.
Wow.
Texas, they're really bad for doing that.
What's your reason for taking away the rights of conservative voices in your state?
A state that is purple, that is 55% Democrat, 45% conservative, and now you're making a 10 to 1 Democrat controlled state in Congress.
What's your justification for being fascist too?
Other people are fascists?
Your argument is that because other fascists are fascist, you're fascist too?
Agreed.
elad eliahu
Democrats are willing to do power plays, they're willing to mog and be unapologetic about it.
And while Republicans stand on principle, the Democrats are openly talking about packing the Supreme Court, they're openly talking about bringing in new states.
And they don't, they're talking about getting rid of the filibuster as well.
And while the Republicans try to stay principled, it's like, oh no, we're packing the Supreme Court, by the way.
It's like, oh, we're adding states.
And the Republicans, John Cornyn's fighting about, oh, you know, I don't want to get rid of the filibuster.
I don't want to nuke the filibuster.
I don't want to pass the Save America Act.
Maybe he doesn't want to save America, but.
tim pool
I think I'm going to vote Democrat.
I think I'm just going to vote Democrat.
elad eliahu
You and Nick Fuentes.
tim pool
All the way down.
You know why, though?
Because I hate Republicans more.
And I want to see them just get wiped out.
Like, I know it's not true, and I'm kidding, by the way.
The argument, like Dave Smith was saying this, is that they need to be punished for this.
I would agree with that sentiment if Republicans were actually being punished.
But I think that most of these Republicans would celebrate if Democrats won everything and then rammed through the liberal economic order agenda.
elad eliahu
I'd agree with that sentiment if I were in a leftist and everything but name and had the same foreign policy as progressives.
tim pool
I am saying that if the Republicans lose the Senate and the House, they will probably celebrate.
They will go, yay, we did it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
The reason why Republicans don't do anything is because they're Democrats.
They have to pretend to oppose.
Otherwise, people would vote for a different political party.
So you vote Republican expecting results.
The Congress gives you nothing.
To be fair, Trump's getting us stuff.
But now I just, you know, if they really would suffer for losing, I'd vote Democrat just so that they suffered, but they'd enjoy it.
So they're massive.
elad eliahu
Yeah, but you'd also suffer, Tim.
tim pool
You're going to suffer either way.
unidentified
Republicans aren't doing anything.
tim pool
Republicans in Congress, what if we pass the Save Act?
What was the point of voting for Congress?
So people are like, what are you going to vote for?
I'll just vote for Trump, I guess.
The Trump administration did stuff.
elad eliahu
I guess the argument is that they don't have enough votes in the Senate.
Like, this can't advance.
tim pool
That's not true.
They could limit the filibuster.
Democrats are talking about doing it, and they will.
We're watching what they do.
So, what was the point of voting for Republicans if they're just going to be a roadblock or a speed bump for Democrats?
In which case, maybe Nick Fuentes is right.
Accelerationism is the only thing to do.
Again, I don't really want Democrats to win.
And it's better to slowly devolve into psychotic.
Tyranny than to just dive head first into it.
So, but I don't see with the Republican Party a light at the end of the tunnel.
When they win, they do nothing.
It was the same when Trump was in.
The first two years of Trump's first term, they obstructed him and played along with Russiagate.
They were in on the take.
Now they could pass the Save Act and they're coming up with a million and one reasons why they won't do it.
elad eliahu
As I understand, John Cornyn's argument for this would be that we will be in the minority soon, eventually.
tim pool
B S I T. Don't care.
That's the lie.
Democrats get the slightest modicum of power and they put people in prison.
They put Bannon in prison.
They put Peter Navarro in prison.
They arrested Trump's lawyers.
They falsely accused him of crimes.
And Republicans go, Well, what happens when we're in the minority?
Bro, you're in the majority and they're doing this to you.
And you will do nothing about it because they're the Washington generals to the Democrats' Harlem Globetrotters.
So at this point, I say, What's the point?
Well, I guess the point is Democrats and the machine state would love it.
If everyone just voted Democrat and they had the Communist Party of America under one political party.
elad eliahu
You know, there's a hot race right now in Texas.
People trying to get rid of Cornyn.
I don't know if you saw that race.
Do you have an opinion on Cornyn versus Paxton?
tim pool
Paxton's way better.
He just filed a lawsuit against Act Blue.
I'd love to see it.
But, you know, I bet he'd nuke the filibuster.
elad eliahu
I'd probably.
tim pool
I got very little hope of nuking these people.
unidentified
Okay.
ian crossland
I have not a lot of.
elad eliahu
Well, I. Even Paxton, you don't have a lot of.
You don't think he'd change the system.
tim pool
In 10 years, the Republican Party is going to be a bunch of gay communists and the Democratic Party is going to be AI.
unidentified
It's the system.
ian crossland
It's been a hundred years that they've been entrenching banking cartels running our economy.
It's supposed to be Congress.
In 1913, they gave it to the Federal Reserve.
That's antithetical to the United States in totality to have a private quasi bank running our monetary supply when we, the people, are in control and protective of it through Congress.
So it's been a hundred years they've been entrenching it.
They tried with the business plot to overthrow the government with a direct fascist coup in the 30s.
They tried with Smedley Butler, it didn't work.
Now they're just economically building a system where these people get voted in, and then they're like, oh my God, I'm in a web.
unidentified
How do I?
ian crossland
Fucking, oh my god, it's $39 trillion in debt now.
What do I tell people?
I'm only here for four years.
Okay, I'm getting paid at least.
I'm getting paid.
elad eliahu
I'm only here for two years.
ian crossland
Can you write a book?
Like Thomas Massey, at least, is like a scientist, you know, building things and like.
But that system, how do you unweave the system?
I just see a crap.
Like, I can't, other than a reset, which means a total economic not a good result.
tim pool
There's only one result from this the conservative people in Virginia who are no longer represented leave.
Not all of them, but many of them.
They will start moving to West Virginia and other red areas.
This will result in an expansive hyper polarization with geographic boundaries.
And then that leads to one result.
Which is violence.
unidentified
Damn.
tim pool
I mean, that's the thing.
elad eliahu
Civil war on brand.
tim pool
Well, I don't know.
I can tell you this.
Like, we're, there's a few towns that we're very close to.
Leesburg is very close to us.
Winchester is very close to us.
And we already have security concerns going to Loudoun County and Winchester because Democrats are psychopathic, violent lunatics.
Not every single one of them, but enough of them.
You know, there's an old saying that feminists like to make about men.
When people would, when the hashtag not all men was going viral, the feminists went, Imagine I give you a bowl of MMs.
But only three of them are poisoned.
Go ahead, eat a handful, would you?
And everyone's like, no.
And they go, see?
And the argument is made for literally every single group ever to justify, you know, separating whatever group by whatever group.
But I would still say this the security concerns that we have, my family, going into places like, you know, Loudoun County and Winchester specifically, is that I don't believe, like Winchester, for example, their vote right now is about 50 50.
So it's, uh, 3,600 yes, 3,038 for no.
So it's fairly split down the middle.
I am not worried about the 50% of people that vote no at all.
They probably would agree with me on a lot of things.
In fact, we go down there, there's a lot of people who are fans.
I am not concerned about the 3,000 individuals who voted yes.
I'm concerned about the 600 people who voted yes, who are deranged, violent leftists who would physically attack me or try to kill me and my family.
That's the problem with the left.
We have body camera footage that just got released.
And it shows the ICE facility when people, when the cop walked outside and they were launching fireworks, and within seconds, he's shot in the neck by leftist terrorists.
I have no fear in any.
Any Republican jurisdiction of a right winger threatening me or attacking me or being violent.
There are overt, like, there are fringe right wing white supremacist dudes who would condemn me for being mixed race and call me a Jew who I do not fear at all.
I could walk up to them and they would yell at me and argue with me.
There are leftists who have already threatened and tried to kill me, they said as death threats.
So when I look at these jurisdictions and I see what Democrats are doing, This is particularly worrisome because we know what Democrats, what the left is capable of doing.
Even if you want to point out it's 1% agreed, that's fair.
I don't go to these cities terrified all the time.
I'm not like sitting there shaking like, oh, leftists are everywhere.
I will tell you this, though.
I avoid any business with a pride progress flag.
You got a pride flag?
I don't care.
A progress pride flag?
I'm not going in there because these people are violent and dangerous.
There was a viral meme where a teacher put up hate has no place here.
In her classroom.
And then it was, I think it was Jeremy Kaufman said, ironically, this sign indicates her willingness to kill you.
And then leftists were like, You really think that leftists want to kill people?
And then it's like, List every terror attack by the left in the past six years.
Yes, they do.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
So, especially, you know, I'll tell you guys, I went to Winchester a few weeks ago.
It was during that big No Kings protest.
And it was freaky and creepy.
Bro, these people are psychopaths.
ian crossland
Feels AstroTurf to a lot of it.
tim pool
We go down, it's a bunch of restaurants we like in Winchester.
It's a beautiful city.
And they have a big protest that looked to be about like a thousand people, maybe 600.
And as we're getting out of the car and walking, people are just staring at us.
I'm assuming many of these people knew who I was and they're deranged far leftists.
So I'm like, okay, let's leave.
Like these people are everywhere and they're holding their creepy signs.
And I'll tell you this story about when I was in Hamburg, Germany with Lauren Southern, Lukarkovsky, and a handful of others.
So, it's the biggest Antifa protest in history.
I think it was the G20 or something.
And someone takes a picture of Lauren Southern.
In the foreground of the photo is a German journalist and an American journalist.
The American journalist doesn't know Lauren.
We knew who he was because we had seen him at various protests.
They found him, started punching him, and stole his camera simply for being in the foreground of a picture of Lauren Southern.
Like Lauren Southern is walking off in the distance, and he is just in the foreground.
They went after him.
Luke was walking with this German journalist, this guy Max, and they yelled Nazi Schweinhund and ran up and started punching Luke and bashing the guy Max.
And he like tore a ligament in his knee.
They did not know who Luke was or this other guy Max, neither a white supremacist, doesn't matter.
They were in the photo.
So we end up meeting, like we all meet up for like coffee or something.
And then we came to a decision, like what should we do?
And I said, look, I'm done covering this protest.
I got no reason to be here.
I'll leave.
Lauren should probably leave because they're going to murder her.
And so I said, I'll get an Uber and go back with Lauren.
You guys can stick around if you want.
We'll dip out now.
On our way back to the Airbnb, regular people walking down the street were stopping and taking pictures and staring at us and tweeting our location.
So Lauren and I had to duck into a Mexican restaurant.
I kid you not, in Germany, a Mexican restaurant.
elad eliahu
They have Mexicans?
tim pool
Yes.
Well, it's a Mexican restaurant.
I think it was Indians that were running it or Chinese people.
elad eliahu
Fascinating.
tim pool
So I remember one of the creepiest things on Twitter, at the time it was Twitter, you would track the hashtag and they would say, Lauren Southern spotted.
Here's the address.
Here's the street location where we spotted her.
And I'm walking with her, like, let's get out of here.
Two people are riding on bikes, and as they're passing, they do this.
Just like the head turns staring at us.
And I'm like, that was weird.
Next to me, no one else just spotted Lauren Southern.
Here's her location.
So we went inside a restaurant, called an Uber, and said, let's wait here until the Uber comes and get the F out of here.
@donniedarkened
These people are nuts.
That's crazy.
tim pool
Yeah, it's culty, man.
It is creepy, creepy stuff.
Like Frederick, let me tell you how creepy it is.
In Frederick, Maryland, they fly the Pride Progress flag over their town hall.
They fly the flag of ideology over their city centers for governance.
It is a cult.
ian crossland
Yeah, it's part of why I don't get too partisan because I don't want to get on the bad side of any one of these cults.
But, like, the downside of city centers.
What are these cults?
tim pool
What other cults are there?
ian crossland
Oh, any religious cult, a political cult, even like groups of friends.
tim pool
There's only two prominent, large ideological factions in this country you have to worry about.
Do you know what those two factions are?
ian crossland
Hey, I don't.
Whatever your cult, whatever the cult, I'm just interested in.
tim pool
There are two large ideological factions you have to be concerned about saying the wrong thing to.
And you know what those two groups are?
elad eliahu
Communists.
tim pool
That's a bit too granular.
The far left is one, indeed.
elad eliahu
The far left?
tim pool
What's the other one?
elad eliahu
On the far right, too, actually.
unidentified
No.
elad eliahu
Who do you think it is then?
tim pool
I want someone to say it because.
elad eliahu
If there's gatekeeping, if you don't say the right thing.
tim pool
Pretty sure everyone in the chat is going to spam the chat with what the other ideological group you can't defend is.
ian crossland
It's just today, one group.
elad eliahu
I have an idea what's being spammed.
ian crossland
In a year, it could very well be another group.
elad eliahu
I have an idea of what's being spammed in the chat.
I don't know if I agree with what it is.
ian crossland
Who holds power has a lot to do with it.
Psychiatry.
tim pool
Do you have a guess, Carter?
carter banks
Yeah, but I don't want to say it.
elad eliahu
Does it start with a Zionist saying it?
Tucker Carlson Ideological Factions 00:16:31
elad eliahu
It does not.
tim pool
In fact, nobody's afraid to criticize Zionists.
elad eliahu
Well, they say that they are, but they aren't actually.
tim pool
There are two groups that if you offend, you die.
unidentified
The left?
tim pool
No.
elad eliahu
Are you sure?
unidentified
Yes.
@donniedarkened
I'm not going to.
tim pool
Are you joking?
elad eliahu
I feel like you can't say bad things about black people.
tim pool
That's the left.
elad eliahu
If you say the I word, people will justify assaulting you.
unidentified
The left.
tim pool
That's the left.
ian crossland
That's what we believe.
See how confusing it is cults and ideology.
tim pool
Bro, can you spare me?
Literally, everybody in.
Oh, it's funny.
People are saying.
Okay, they got it in chat.
ian crossland
The reason I brought it up is because I'm not particularly partisan.
tim pool
Are you joking?
ian crossland
But if you speak.
elad eliahu
Oh, I totally forgot about the Muslims.
unidentified
You forgot.
tim pool
That's wild.
You post a picture of Muhammad, you die.
elad eliahu
Oh, so true.
@donniedarkened
That happened in Texas, not too far from where I'm at.
tim pool
Look at the things that Crowder has to deal with the threats against him because he's offended Islam.
You can say anything you want about Trump.
You can call him a pedophile rapist, and nothing bad happens to you.
Not a single conservative will threaten your life.
You can insult Christians.
You can smash a statue of Jesus Christ, and the worst thing they do is complain on the internet.
elad eliahu
What does that say about Muslims that they are so willing to defend their ideology?
unidentified
Invictions.
@donniedarkened
It's in their religion.
Like, in their religion, if they die for their cause, like, they will go to heaven.
Like, that's the whole thing.
elad eliahu
And even the so called assimilated ones in our country, I have found to be still very radical.
And, you know, we have people in our country, I don't know.
I mean, there's pearl clutch.
It's interesting to see the reaction of, like, the Catholics pearl clutching, some Catholics pearl clutching over the recent post from the president, allegedly depicting himself as Jesus.
If he did that, like, depicting himself as Muhammad or something, the, There would actually probably be violence.
But no.
tim pool
South Park was banned by Comedy Central from displaying Muhammad.
Yeah, I still can't remember.
elad eliahu
Well, the Charlie Hebdo thing.
Yeah, they depicted Muhammad.
They depicted Muhammad.
They murdered him.
unidentified
Yep.
elad eliahu
And we kind of just swept that under the rug.
So, people are scared to depict Muhammad.
Like, of course.
You know, you likely will.
If you're a popular show, if you have a big audience and you display him, you will definitely get that.
tim pool
And I'm going to say this very simply again.
Like I said, of Democrats, I am not concerned with 99% of Muslims who would just tell me, Tim, why would you offend us like that?
That's mean.
Like, there's no reason to do that.
I have said things about Islam in the past, and I've gotten emails from people saying, I like your show, I respect you, but I just don't think it's fair that you are disrespecting us.
And that's all I have to say about it.
And I'm like, that's fair.
That's fair.
And so I try not to be disrespectful.
It's the 1%.
Now, the right doesn't have that.
They don't even have the 1%.
There are fringe wackos with traditionalist or certain conservative values that are not aligned with mainstream American politics.
The left likes to claim some wackaloon who goes and shoots up a gay club is a conservative.
And it's like there is no group on the right that tells people by any means necessary and advocates for things like this.
The left has numerous groups that go out and march and kill people and they celebrate it.
Apparently, the left was funding white supremacy the whole time as well.
So, if left means white supremacist, violent extremists, and communists, well, then the left is all of it.
elad eliahu
I do think, I do suspect we will be seeing an Islamification of the Democrat Party over the course of the next decade.
We're already seeing it in parts of Michigan.
And I think they will kowtow to the Muslims in their party and the ideology of them.
tim pool
There are many Democrats who explained the reason they lost Michigan was because their unwillingness to go full steam for Gaza.
So, this is the Democrat autopsy, the refusing to release indicates that they lost youth voters and swing state voters in Muslim areas because they were wishy washy on Israel Gaza.
elad eliahu
I think it was the there's an Arab Muslim Senate candidate in Michigan now who, I think, on a leaked phone call said he didn't want to talk about the killing of the Ayatollah because it would upset people in his district.
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
And further than that, there was some mayor who was there was a concerned citizen complaining to the mayor during a town hall or something.
About how he didn't want a street named after a Hezbollah general or something.
And he said, Get the hell out of town.
We don't want people like you in our town.
Oh, you guys.
We look forward to people like you getting out of here.
This is a real issue in Dearborn, Michigan and Michigan.
Michigan that is turning.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story from media.
Let's jump to this story from media.
We've got this quote I am sorry for misleading people.
Tucker Carlson delivers jaw dropping mea culpa for endorsing Trump.
unidentified
Let's play this.
buckley carlson
Compromising things.
Not very.
And it doesn't even matter.
Like, actually, I hate the term, but sack up.
Like, really, you again, it comes back to the obligation that he has, not just to Donald Trump, to everybody else in the country, well beyond Donald Trump.
Who cares?
He can survive.
tucker carlson
So, looking back, being because I mean, you and I and everyone else who supported him, you wrote speeches for him, I campaigned for him.
I mean, we're implicated in this for sure.
unidentified
Yes.
tucker carlson
It's not enough to say, well, I changed my mind or like, oh, this is bad, I'm out.
It's like in very small ways, but in real ways, you and me and millions of people like us are the reason.
This is happening right now.
Yes.
So I do think it's like a moment to wrestle with our own consciences.
You know, we'll be tormented by it for a long time.
I will be.
And I want to say I'm sorry for misleading people.
It was not intentional.
That's all I'll say.
But anyway, but the question does present itself immediately.
Like, what is this?
Was this always the plan?
You don't want to be a conspiracy net, but like, clearly there were signs of low character.
We knew that.
unidentified
Yes.
tucker carlson
But it didn't, there are tons of people of low character who like outperform their character.
It doesn't have to be.
buckley carlson
Sort of the norm, actually, these days.
unidentified
Right.
tucker carlson
I've outperformed my character a lot.
I don't have especially high character, right?
But, you know, you try to whatever, you try your best.
But what was this?
Was this always the plan?
buckley carlson
You know, looking back after the last year and a half, it seems like it kind of was.
And it's easy.
Well, you could get really deep about it and say, what was Butler?
Like, how was it that he and Ryan Ruth?
I mean, he was subject to two legitimate assassination attempts.
Have we ever gotten to the bottom?
I know you've talked a lot about this, but have we ever gotten to the bottom?
tucker carlson
I haven't talked.
A lot about it.
I don't know the answer, but I know that those investigations have been stymied.
unidentified
Fact.
buckley carlson
Yeah, stymied from the very top, from people who actually would have the power to get to the bottom of it.
tucker carlson
And the motive.
Yes.
buckley carlson
Very much.
So the enormous amount of money he got from Miriam Adelson now seems, it seems suspect to a lot of people at the time, but you know, there's a lot of money in politics to run.
tim pool
The reason why Tucker just laughed, and that's why I'm wrapping it there, is because every single Person in politics knew exactly what Miriam Adelson's money meant.
And the reporting at the time was that it was a quid pro quo that Israel would take the West Bank if Trump, if she donated to Trump and he got that money, that's what was to happen.
That was the reporting.
I'm not saying it's true.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
Tucker knew this.
His brother knew this.
They all knew it.
I do not see anything Tucker is saying as sincere in this.
What grown man says I will be tormented for this?
Let me just stress.
Everyone knew.
We talked about it on this show.
Is Tucker, does he have amnesia?
Did he just one day wake up forgetting everything that had been discussed during the campaign about Trump's intentions?
How about in Trump's first term?
He wanted to move the embassy to Jerusalem.
He killed Soleimani.
He hired John Bolton.
Everybody acting surprised by what Trump is doing is lying.
And I'll give a shout out to my libertarian friends.
Of course, this does not only reflect on Dave Smith, but does involve him.
My question then is Did you forget that Trump went to Israel and did all of this stuff for Israel and that he hired John Bolton in the first place, had said he would stop Iran from a nuclear weapon, and killed Soleimani?
I wasn't surprised by anything we are seeing.
I'm not a fan of it.
I just voted for what I felt is slightly better than the death, well, actually, largely better in a lot of domestic reasons.
Than Democrats.
And now all of a sudden, Tucker and these other people are like, well, I had no idea.
elad eliahu
You know, there's a world where Tucker is legitimately a neocon psyop because he's consistently supported Republican administrations that have been very hawkish.
He famously supported Bush and Cheney in the Iraq war, and now he obviously contributed a lot to President Trump winning, and the president invaded Iran now.
I think what's also fascinating, though, is he's sort of burning all of his bridges with the president.
Tucker had a lot of access to the president before the Iran war, actually.
He visited the White House something like four, five, or six times.
They had a memorial at the White House for Charlie Kirk after he was assassinated.
Tucker Carlson was there.
They've obviously had a major falling out since.
It might be a little bit awkward, too, because Buckley Carlson, Tucker's son, and I guess the name of his brother as well, was the press spokesperson for JD Vance, making things a little bit awkward.
He left recently to go do some political consulting, which is fascinating.
But you really have to wonder about that relationship.
Tucker Carlson obviously knew all this stuff.
At the time, I just think he's wise to what he thinks will be the future political wins.
He's seeing some uproar and some fracturing in the MAGA coalition, and he's trying to claim the future of MAGA because I think people like him see a post MAGA environment, and he's trying to capitalize on it.
tim pool
You want to read this post, Ilad?
elad eliahu
Hi, Tucker Carlson.
It's me, a normal person who you mocked and bullied when we tried to warn you about all of this, who doesn't have your wealth and privilege to insulate himself from the consequences of your support for a criminal.
Yup, you effed up.
Yep, you were wrong.
Glad you are finally aware.
No, you are not forgiven.
No, you are not welcome with open arms.
You can go F yourself, you opportunistic coward.
Have the day you voted for.
You know, that's not actually a common sentiment.
tim pool
That's Will Wheaton, by the way.
elad eliahu
Who's.
tim pool
Will Wheaton, I'm sorry.
unidentified
Oh, man.
elad eliahu
Are you kidding?
tim pool
Stan?
He was in Stand By Me, right?
unidentified
He was.
ian crossland
He was in the movie Stand By Me.
He was in Star Trek Next Generation.
tim pool
We don't talk.
ian crossland
He was a gamer.
He had a.
What was the name of their gaming club?
tim pool
That's not correct.
ian crossland
Shout out to Will, dude.
tim pool
Hey, Will.
Actually, I did like Wesley Crush.
I thought he was a good character.
ian crossland
We could get together and hang out with Will.
We've won the culture war.
So, Will, come over.
elad eliahu
I actually reject Hollywood culture.
I don't buy into the movies.
I don't know a movie you guys are referencing.
I haven't seen it.
tim pool
He's an actor who's been in a ton of movies.
ian crossland
He's a little kid.
tim pool
Yeah, and he was in the first few seasons of Star Trek The Next Generation.
elad eliahu
I don't buy into the Hollywood propaganda.
I will say this, though.
I don't think this is a common sentiment on the left.
I think among leftists, like Anna Kasparian, especially Cenk Uger, have been defending Tucker.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
They're cheering for him.
He's going to run as a Democrat.
Tucker, I'm half kidding.
Half.
elad eliahu
No, I think there will be like a.
I don't think he'll run as a Democrat.
I think some of the leftists will run as Republicans.
unidentified
What?
elad eliahu
I think like for a VP choice, something like somebody like, I don't know, not seriously, but an Anna Kasparian type.
tim pool
As a Republican.
elad eliahu
As a vice presidential candidate, maybe.
What?
Saying somebody who's willing to, you know, yeah.
tim pool
That's ridiculous.
It makes no sense.
elad eliahu
No, I think that's the.
tim pool
It's just made up.
elad eliahu
With Tucker at the top of the ticket, obviously it's made up.
tim pool
Tucker's not going to run as a Republican.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, he will.
elad eliahu
He's going to try to take over the party like Trump took over the party.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
You want to make a bet right here that Tucker's not going to run for office?
Tucker's not going to run for office.
elad eliahu
You're giving me good odds?
I'm not even a betting man, but I think Tucker has serious ambitions.
tim pool
Well, a gentleman's bet then.
elad eliahu
Yeah, yeah, I would.
tim pool
Tucker's not going to run.
elad eliahu
Tucker has serious political ambitions, and I think his posturing now is doing so for those ambitions in the future.
Yeah, I think he'll do this show for another.
tim pool
Well, you know, I will give you this.
elad eliahu
I will give you this.
tim pool
I will give you this.
That does make probably the most sense as to why he's all of a sudden shifting.
elad eliahu
That's why I think all of these guys are doing it.
Joe Kent is doing it for the same reason.
tim pool
Yeah, they're looking for the lowest common denominator.
elad eliahu
Totally.
tim pool
And the war is unpopular.
So if you want to get the largest vote share, you say, I oppose Trump.
elad eliahu
All of these dweebs are doing it for Tucker's going to run.
Same with Marjorie Taylor Greene.
She's going to have a comeback.
Joe Kent, he's going to have a comeback.
tim pool
I don't think Tucker's running.
elad eliahu
I think he will.
tim pool
He's not.
elad eliahu
I think he will.
ian crossland
He could.
I don't think he will because there's a.
elad eliahu
I think he's open to the idea if the right opportunities come forth.
And I think he's laying down the groundwork for.
It's more important to have him like the V. His son, his.
carter banks
And he's like, no, I'm not.
elad eliahu
I mean, I guess he couldn't overtake his son.
tim pool
He could run as an independent or a Democrat.
ian crossland
He can't run as a Republican.
32, you might see him.
elad eliahu
No, he'd have to run as a Republican.
And I think he'd get a ton of support because he was the 8 p.m. Fox News slot guy.
tim pool
It's not going to get.
First of all, you need to understand the people who watched his show six years ago will be dead in two years or already are dying.
I love my baby boomerang.
And again, I'm not trying to rag on these people, but it's called the mortality shelf.
When six years ago, the average age was 69, now it's 74.
In two more years, We're expecting to see like a 20 to 30% death rate among boomers as they approach 79 years old.
elad eliahu
You think Tucker could win in a primary against, you know, against who else is Trump?
tim pool
No, because Trump's base is solid at around 40%.
So we have seen this in polling for the past decade.
Of the Republican Party, about 40% are for Trump no matter what he does.
And we can see this with people like Kat.
elad eliahu
Yeah, but what about when Trump's gone?
tim pool
So when Trump leaves, these people are going to look at Tucker as a betrayer.
They're going to say Rubio or Vance, who stood by Trump.
They're going to say Tucker betrayed Trump, and they're going to call him a coward for apologizing.
elad eliahu
Yeah, I guess the coalition he's trying to build, he'd be able to proudfully say, I was.
tim pool
As an independent or Democrat, but not as a Republican.
elad eliahu
Sure, I hope so.
tim pool
Republicans support the conflict in Iran.
Not every single one.
It's like 77%.
When you look at the aggregate polling, ask a Republican, do you support the military actions in Iran?
It's like 77% yes.
So Tucker's not going to win the Republican primary.
Rubio might.
JD Vance and Rubio can both come out and say, We hear you and we understand why it was unpopular.
We will do better, but we stood by Trump.
We are loyal.
elad eliahu
I think a lot of the issues that I think Vance tries to focus on, Tucker would have more credibility speaking to.
I think Tucker works the populist angle, although he's not going to get any donors from the Israel.
He's already super rich.
He could self fund.
tim pool
Yeah, no, you need like $2 billion to run for president.
elad eliahu
I think there are people with deep pockets who are willing to support a guy like this.
I hope I'm wrong, but I'm just saying you are wrong.
I hope I am.
I think he has a lot more credibility, again, with the issues that I think Vance Virginia.
tim pool
Bro, you don't start pandering to Anna Kasparian and Cenk Uecker to try and win a Republican primary.
unidentified
Sorry.
Totally.
tim pool
It's not going to happen.
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
So I hope it's to be the case.
tim pool
Right now, JD Vance and Marco Rubio are more primed for a Republican primary than Tucker Carlson is.
Tucker Corona is a spoiler as an independent and pulls some conservatives, but he'd also pull more Democrats.
The anti Trump, anti Israel, anti war stance, substantially popular with Democrats, very lightly and marginally popular with conservatives.
And moderately popular with libertarians.
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Aside from if Tucker will run for president in the future, I think, again, a lot of these other nerds are posturing in on the sidelines, preparing to run for something down the line.
People like, again, Joe Kent.
I don't think we've seen the last of people like Marjorie Taylor Greene.
I think they're waiting for, you know, two, four years out where they're going to pop their heads back up and more of those characters.
ian crossland
Maybe he could run with JD Vance.
elad eliahu
Or maybe he could just be the mouthpiece for it.
ian crossland
I don't think he wants to.
I mean, why would he give up all that money and freedom?
I don't think he wants to.
elad eliahu
Well, his son works with Vance or used to work with Vance.
ian crossland
That's why I'm wondering if they would work together.
If Vance asks him to be his VP, he'd probably say yes.
But other than that, I don't think he'd spoil the Republican ticket because he has no way he would beat Vance in a primary.
elad eliahu
It has yet to be told.
We'll see.
unidentified
He won't.
Yeah.
elad eliahu
And he'd also be able to run as like an outsider.
And that's very advantageous.
tim pool
He could be trying to go after the youth vote, to be honest, because younger voters are anti Israel.
So he's looking for a new, like maybe he wants to target like the Fuentes crowd and pull them into the Republican Party.
ian crossland
Him and Vance together.
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
And then fracture parts of the Democrat Party.
tim pool
That's possible.
I think.
Global War And Foreign Policy 00:14:43
elad eliahu
And I think Virtue signaling hard towards Muslims, too.
I think recently he said like Islam is not a threat.
And then he was also talking about how Muslims really respect Jesus Christ.
I don't talk about the divinity of Christ, but neither do Muslims.
tim pool
I just want to address what you're saying.
I actually am going to give it to you.
It does look like political ambitions.
It does look like he's trying to court a lowest common denominator for a political.
elad eliahu
Laying the groundwork down.
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
And that's especially with the virtue signaling towards Muslims.
tim pool
Because he's getting tons of liberal organizations have been praising him, and far left organizations have been warning the liberals to stop praising him.
I do believe that if you had a wackaloon far lefty Democrat and Tucker Carlson, young Turks would vote Tucker.
elad eliahu
The media is so willing to use anybody as an anti Trump figure that they will make Tucker Carlson a media darling now.
He's willing to fight back against the fascism that is Donald Trump.
Haven't you heard how bad of an authoritarian Nazi Hitler that Trump is?
tim pool
How much do you want to bet Tucker's going to start making appearances in a bunch of shows?
elad eliahu
Oh, yeah.
He already has been.
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Wait, but now you're switching your side on the gentleman's bet?
Now you do think he might.
tim pool
I didn't say anything.
I said, I do think it does look like he's got political ambitions.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't think he's going to run.
elad eliahu
I think he's.
tim pool
But you've convinced me a little bit more, so I've shifted the probability, though I still think it's a no.
elad eliahu
If the right opportunity is.
tim pool
I'm starting to see it a little bit.
elad eliahu
He'd do it if he thinks he could win.
carter banks
He's come like from.
Like I used to have lefty friends say, but Tucker Carlson.
You know, saying he's like super far right, and now over like the last five years, he's become completely different.
tim pool
Tucker could target independents, he could get moderate conservative leading types who don't like Trump and don't vote Republican anymore.
elad eliahu
He's such an opportunist chameleon, he's just switched up on so many things.
You really just have to think he's saying whatever he has to do to get support or what he thinks is popular.
I think it's a funny shtick the way he dressed up as this sort of like everyday lumberjack type guy.
He's been rich since he was a child, he never needed to work in a day in his life.
People don't understand, he's like the heir to some.
tim pool
Frozen Swanson TV dinner fortune.
elad eliahu
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
So he's not really, it's his stepmom, I believe.
They married into that, so that wealth does exist in their family.
elad eliahu
He went to private schools his entire life.
They're rich, filthy rich.
I think he likes to do this.
tim pool
You know what?
Now that I think about it, I've just kind of reevaluated everything.
And honestly, as I said here today, I'm tormented for having voted for Trump.
I just, you know, he's the Antichrist.
And now I, you know, actually, I don't, I cry at night.
I cry because I should never have supported Donald Trump.
unidentified
You're complicit.
tim pool
I just realized that trans kids are real and should be allowed to get whatever they want.
And the CIA is perfect and always the best.
Russia is bad.
China is good.
And, you know, really, I just don't want Democrats to hurt me.
carter banks
Pretty good apology, in my opinion.
tim pool
What's really crazy about Tucker is like, I told you about this.
It's like how fake it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
What did you think was going to, like, genuine question?
unidentified
What do you think?
tim pool
He knows exactly what he's doing.
ian crossland
When you voted for Donald Trump, did you think he was going to release the Epstein files and then end World War?
Bro, we're part of a system that's continuously moving forward.
unidentified
There's no.
tim pool
He took money from Miriam Adelson.
ian crossland
Yeah, his.
What's his name?
tim pool
His mom married.
He hired John Bolton.
The idea that he was not going to have wars was stupid.
ian crossland
I mean, the Abraham Accords is his.
What's his son in law's name?
Jared Kushner?
Like, bro, he's about as saddled up to the Israelis as you could possibly be diplomatically.
He's letting him run his Israeli, what, Middle Eastern policy.
Is this guy, I don't know if he's a self acknowledged Zionist.
Like, pretty obvious.
Pretty obvious, guys.
It's just not as bad as what the Democrats are trying to pigeonhole in without a primary.
elad eliahu
Why doesn't Musk get much out of the president?
He's donated more money via super PACs to the president's campaign than Adelson did.
Why don't you think Musk gets anything out of this?
ian crossland
Because this world economic order wants Israel to control the Middle East, and they're using the American military to do it.
elad eliahu
The World Economic Forum wants.
tim pool
Ian, that's made up.
ian crossland
It seems to want stability in the Middle East led by the Israelis.
elad eliahu
I think the WEF is really anti Zionist.
tim pool
What's the evidence for it?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
He's correct.
I think they continually threaten to the new Hungarian PM just threaten to arrest Netanyahu.
elad eliahu
They don't support Israel, the Europeans.
ian crossland
We're probably talking about 80 million different people that want 80 million different things, but this push to create and control the Middle East with like taking Iraq and Afghanistan.
We're taking Iraq now?
Yeah, we've had it for 20 years.
They want so, like, anybody that's not like the reason they wish Mary Madison is because it aligns with that goal, which has been there since the 1990s or whatever.
tim pool
That's not correct.
ian crossland
I'm sorry.
Then prove that.
tim pool
Yeah, so the reason why we went into.
The Gulf War in the 90s, the first Gulf War was because of Iraq's invasion of Kuwait.
Saddam Hussein was against the liberal economic order.
Shortly after this, we heard George H.W. Bush talk about the emergence of a new world order.
And this is where they were roping China in.
This is when they began to send U.S. manufacturing to China and Southeast Asia.
The reason why we went to Iraq the second time was because Saddam Hussein was trying to trade oil in euro.
He was trying to operate outside of the petrodollar system.
Additionally, the biggest issue had been Iran.
So, we invaded Iraq and Afghanistan for one reason.
We set up a bunch of military bases along the borders surrounding Iran as we were preparing for a strike on Iran.
Most other issues are just fabrications.
Israel is ancillary to this as an ally in the Middle East that we largely fund, which creates a forward operation center for U.S. military operations.
ian crossland
It seems like it.
tim pool
Additionally, again, Libya had nothing to do with Israel.
NATO and Western forces killed Gaddafi because he was trying to trade golden dinar, among other things.
The U.S. was deeply involved in fomenting the Arab Spring.
We wanted to get rid of Bashar al Assad, not because of Israel, because we wanted to build the pipeline from Qatar through Saudi Arabia, Turkey, up to the water, through the Gulf, through Turkey, through Ukraine, into Europe to offset Russia's gas monopoly.
ian crossland
Israel's like if you were an emperor, Israel would be one of your kingdoms, and you'd give them control of their territory.
They would serve you.
This is what the liberal economic order wants.
unidentified
Israel.
tim pool
Then why didn't we do that after we dismantled the governments of Iraq and Afghanistan?
ian crossland
We are in the process of.
tim pool
No, we are not.
We pulled our troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan, and the Taliban took back over.
ian crossland
And then we repositioned.
We're over there right now.
tim pool
The Taliban is running Afghanistan.
ian crossland
What's that?
tim pool
The Taliban took Afghanistan.
ian crossland
It's a mess.
It's a quagmire.
tim pool
But the Taliban didn't turn it over to Israel in the 20 years we have.
ian crossland
Well, it's not about turning over territory to Israel.
tim pool
What do you mean?
You just said it was.
ian crossland
We just want them to kind of oversee it militarily.
tim pool
Why didn't we have them do it in 20 years?
ian crossland
Because we don't have the territory yet.
tim pool
We had Afghanistan for 20 years.
ian crossland
Well, that's a bit barren rock.
We don't have Iran.
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
Iran is the jewel.
Iran is what they need to secure the area.
tim pool
So why didn't we give control of Iraq and Afghanistan to Israel?
ian crossland
I don't think that was ever a plan to do that.
tim pool
So, you're not saying they don't want the Middle East.
You're saying the West, the WF, wants Israel to control the Iranian territories.
ian crossland
Do they want a quadrupolar world?
unidentified
India, China.
elad eliahu
The two state solution, the WEF, they're just trying to do business.
ian crossland
Yeah, they want stability.
Israel is a wonderful stabilizing force for the liberal economic order.
unidentified
Are they even in it?
elad eliahu
People argue with the opposite about Israel.
tim pool
The argument that the West or WF wants to give Israel control of the Middle East is something made up by wackaloons on the internet.
And I will say this with 100% confidence because we on this show, since its inception, have been tracking conflict in the Middle East and Eastern Europe and Europe.
And I have personally been following this for 20 years.
And I can tell you what you're saying is fabricated old cloth by retards who we call the retard right.
ian crossland
Like that area, we'll say college is called the British Mandate for Palestine.
When they set up Israel there in 1949, you don't think they wanted Israel to be a power?
tim pool
What does that have to do with what you're saying, right?
unidentified
Because.
tim pool
It's like you read a cliff notes from some anti Zionist and you don't know why.
ian crossland
Do you think they're why do you think this whole this whole organism this whole move to create Israel there happened?
elad eliahu
You think British Britain gained influence in the Middle East as a result of this foundation of Israel?
I mean, Zionists the Zionists committed terrorist bombings against the British because they felt as though the British were oppressing them.
ian crossland
That's possible, too.
elad eliahu
No, that's right.
Remember the King David Hotel bombing again, these were Zionists who were pissed off at the British who wanted to kick the British out of the area.
Sort of suggests somehow that the British were trying to have the foundation of Israel to increase their influence in the region.
The Israels were fighting back against the British.
ian crossland
The British and the French set up Israel to be there.
And then, you know, whatever Israel wants their independence, I don't blame them for kicking out their handlers, you know?
tim pool
So again, to go to modern and contemporary military structures outside of what Britain and France did, which is immaterial to US foreign policy for the most part these days.
Libya's strike had nothing to do with what Israel wanted.
Barack Obama and Operation Timber Sycamore, I think, was that what it is?
Where it provided weapons to various rebels, which eventually fell into the hands and became ISIS, had, again, nothing to do with Israel.
Only ancillary that Israel is around there.
ian crossland
Let's table the statement that the intention is to set Israel up as the leader.
Forget it.
Maybe that's true.
Maybe it's not.
Let's table that.
But if you didn't see this Middle Eastern conquest on the horizon, this is why I brought it up.
It's a very obvious plan to dominate Israel.
The Middle Eastern forces and convert them into a liberal economic station.
tim pool
Indeed, that's correct.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And the intention here is that Iran has been operating outside the petrodollar system for decades, and the U.S. has struggled to get them to fall in line.
Even right now, it would seem, whatever Trump's plan is, he's struggling to get Iran to fall in line.
It is not some backwards desert nation, it is 90 plus million people heavily developed.
elad eliahu
I think if you're arguing that the United States has an interest in setting up democratic allies in the area, And, like, that's the WEF's plan.
Like, yeah, that makes sense to me.
I think that was the general goal in Iraq to set up a democratic ally.
That was the general goal, I believe, with whatever regime change we do in Iran.
We used to be allies with the Shah in Iran.
So, if the idea was we wanted a democratic ally in the Middle East, and that's why we're continuing to support Israel, yeah, I think that's a large part of it, too, because we like our democratic allies.
Even if they're not democratic, we like having our allies in the region, but the democracy helps, too.
tim pool
Why didn't Israel keep the Sinai Peninsula?
elad eliahu
Because they're super soft.
They should have.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, I don't understand what they're doing.
elad eliahu
They traded it back for peace on paper with Egypt.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
They could have just kept it.
elad eliahu
They probably should have kept it.
And the same with Gaza.
They gave back Gaza.
What did the Israelis get in return for giving back Gaza?
They got Hamas and they got October 7th.
So I don't think giving land back to the Arabs that you won in wars has been particularly wise for the Israelis.
I don't know.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So, you know, we had that woman on who claimed that the reason Zelensky is running Ukraine is because he's a Jew and Netanyahu wants a corridor to Ukraine.
It's just like.
When a retard makes something up, ignoring 30 years of US foreign policy in the region, USAID operations, as well as like Russian negotiations with the EU, Ukraine, it's like insane.
And the thing that really irks me about this greater Israel conspiracy that the reason we went to Iraq and Afghanistan is because Israel made us do it is that it absolves the World Economic Forum of their true influence and the liberal economic order's manipulations and injection of gay communism into these countries.
ian crossland
They're like, oh, yeah, focus on Israel, go after Israel.
I don't want to get into our things.
elad eliahu
But the history of scapegoating.
ian crossland
But the Israelis did start this war in Iran, and I don't see them anywhere around right now.
They lit it off, and then Americans.
elad eliahu
You know what's next?
tim pool
Hold on, hold on.
History will not look back at this and claim the Israelis did it.
They'll look back and say the 12 day war never ended.
It will say the war with Iran started in June of 2025 when the U.S. with Israel bombed several sites in Iran to take out their nuclear capabilities.
Iran was able to smuggle out the nuclear materials before the bombs went off.
Trump claimed they did.
This result, when you read the paragraph in a history book, it's going to say the war began in June of 2025 with the 12 day war.
However, the war never ended because Iran successfully smuggled out their nuclear materials to which Trump ultimately staged another intervention.
They will, they will, like, it's going to be one moment.
This eight month gap between when we bombed them and then again, now when we're bombing them again, there's no historical distinction.
They're going to be like, well, the war ended, then eight months later was another war.
elad eliahu
I think there's an argument to be had that we've actually been in, like, a loose world war since 2022 when Russia first invaded Ukraine.
We were assisting Ukraine aggressively.
Then the following year was October 7th, where Israel obviously was fighting Hamas.
That expanded into Lebanon, continued into Syria.
Then eventually Iran, and then round two with Iran in current day.
Ukraine war is still ongoing.
Gaza war is still sort of ongoing.
Europeans were heavily involved, obviously, with what's going on in Ukraine.
All the Gulf nations were attacked and defended themselves.
In a version of this, we're really fighting a world war and defeating our enemies in detail, meaning that we're fighting our enemies individually.
So this is all really going down one by one.
So I think you can make that argument, especially given how close Iran and Russia have been exchanging military.
For their drones or what have you, that the Russians have been using very aggressively.
There's also information about Russia supplying coordinate details for U.S. assets in the area.
tim pool
China sending weapons?
elad eliahu
Yeah, China sending at least fuel and gas.
I actually asked.
tim pool
No, no, there were planes flying from China before the war kicked off after the 12 day war.
elad eliahu
I asked Secretary Hegseth about this actually last week about reports that during this ceasefire, China might be sending over weapons.
Allegedly, the president and Xi Jinping had a conversation and said that that's not going to be happening.
But.
Given how involved we are with Ukraine and Israel, and how involved China is with Russia and Iran and North Korea also being involved, I think there is a loose argument really to be made that we've been in a sort of loose world war for the past few years.
tim pool
I agree.
And the argument now is that there are over 20 nations involved in this conflict with Iran.
The start of World War II was not like one moment shot heard around the world where everyone said World War II has begun.
It was a series of conflicts all over the world happening at once that escalated.
elad eliahu
I feel like we forget Ukraine is still happening.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
Black Hebrew Israelite Controversy 00:03:42
elad eliahu
Like, nobody really gives a shit.
We don't really talk about it.
tim pool
Yeah, the Russian economy has transformed completely in the past five years.
elad eliahu
Four years, and you know, there's just thousands of deaths a month.
Nobody even gives a shit about the drone footage, which I still watch.
I know we really like to see all the gore coming out of Israel, Gaza, and the war that happened there, but there's a ton of drone footage.
They record all of their stuff on their FPS drones, some of the most morbid shit you could see online.
I don't even see it on Twitter.
People, you really have to seek it out.
And this is still ongoing.
Nobody really seems to, it's not in the news.
The president kind of gave up on the peace deals early on in his administration.
Putin didn't seem too interested in them.
And it is really a war of attrition out there.
And nobody gives a shit.
tim pool
We're going to go to the Rumble rants and Super Chats.
So smash the like button, share the show, and all that good stuff.
The uncensored portion of the show will be at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL at 10 o'clock.
Don't miss it.
Not so family friendly, but always fun and funny.
All right, we got Super Poopers.
He says Southern Poverty Law Center needs to be nuked, and then says a disparaging term I can't read on the internet.
We got Gigi Wills says, sounds just like the Nancy Pelosi wrap up smear.
Which one does?
What sounds like that?
I don't know what that's referenced to.
This is a good one.
Let me pull up the New York Times real quick.
And I want to grab the.
Here we go.
McCarlson says that district isn't in Virginia, it isn't a lobster.
It's a scorpion.
Notice the tip of the tail is filled with venom.
And here you can see the seventh.
It's like a lobster, but the tip of the tail is filled with venom.
elad eliahu
I think when he was talking about the wrap up smear, he was talking about the SPLC stuff about feeding them the story and then repeat.
tim pool
Oh, right, Yep.
elad eliahu
He kept the inside scoop.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
These people are evil, man.
John Rambo says, I remember around Trump's first term, SPLC was tracking black nationalism statistics as well.
It more than doubled white nationalist hate groups.
They purged it.
I took screenshots of the old data.
Interesting.
elad eliahu
What's going on with the black nationalists and the black Jews?
tim pool
Oh, black Hebrew Israelites?
@donniedarkened
Black Hebrew, they're crazy.
elad eliahu
Is that they hate me?
In your community?
I don't know.
I actually do see some people.
I like going to Jamaican restaurants, and I'll see just dudes with the Star of David.
I don't know if they'd fuck with me or not.
@donniedarkened
No, they don't like me.
I have a funny story about it, tell it later, but.
I ended up going to what was called a Bible study.
My friend brought me, and I started noticing weird things.
And that I realized later, oh, it's a black Hebrew Israelite place.
And there's like the four women were actually the guy's wives, and it was just a crazy, yeah.
elad eliahu
How common is it in the black community?
@donniedarkened
I think it's getting, I think it's becoming more popular, especially as like a lot of the anti Israel, anti Zionist stuff.
It's like, oh, wait a minute.
Oh, they're fake Jews.
We're the real Jews.
Yeah, that's.
tim pool
Do they believe in, was it Yakub?
@donniedarkened
Yakub?
tim pool
Is that what they believe?
@donniedarkened
I guess.
I know there's a lot of weird stuff with Agartha and even the white national circles.
They talk about Yaqub.
elad eliahu
But also with black people and just converting and becoming extreme in these weird.
I know some are, they go to jail and come out.
tim pool
Islam?
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
They go in Jamal, come out Muhammad.
unidentified
Yeah.
@donniedarkened
No, there's definitely a.
elad eliahu
It's either Jew or Muslim for these.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
@donniedarkened
There's definitely been a rise in that in the black community.
I've definitely noticed it, especially in the cities.
You'll see them patrolling around and.
It's weird stuff going on.
elad eliahu
It's the religious resurgence among the black community.
I don't know.
Maybe there are just as many Catholics and Christians that just get a lot less attention than do the Hebrewites and black Muslims.
@donniedarkened
Yeah, they're trying to find, like, they're trying to search for a purpose, you know?
They cling to this stuff because it gives them, like, almost like a dividing.
elad eliahu
It gives them an identity, which is important.
Antichrist Symbolism And Religion 00:08:19
tim pool
Do you think Trump is the Antichrist?
@donniedarkened
I think that it's way more likely now, but not for the same reasons that Tucker Carlson and all of them say.
And, like, I want to say, too, I think I might have even influenced Tucker a little bit.
I mentioned a little bit earlier on the show before, one of my friends, Daryl Cooper, mentioned me to Tucker a couple years ago.
And so I don't know if there's maybe some influence there, but Tucker Carlson and all these people completely missed the mark about the end because they associate Israel and Antichrist.
And they're like, oh, the Antichrist is pro Israel.
But it's like biblically, yeah, temporarily, but that's supposed to shift.
That's a short, that's a temporary time.
tim pool
So you're saying Tucker's the Antichrist?
@donniedarkened
Well, who knows?
No, but seriously, Tucker Carlson and all these guys.
tim pool
He's got a fake right eye, and his right arm is withered.
@donniedarkened
Does he actually?
elad eliahu
No, I'm not.
His right hand is always dabbed fully with makeup.
Not always, but very often.
unidentified
Yeah, very often.
tim pool
Yeah, Trump's got this spreading disgust.
elad eliahu
It's very obvious.
And, like, it's very obvious how aggressively it's covered up, too.
Oh, yeah, it's been like that.
@donniedarkened
It's getting bigger.
Yeah, that's prophecy.
It talks about his right arm shall be withered.
unidentified
Yeah.
@donniedarkened
It's pretty interesting, right?
tim pool
We're watching it.
It was never going to be like you wake up one day and Trump's like, my right arm withered and my eye hurts.
It's just, it's going to be a slow, gradual thing.
@donniedarkened
A slow thing.
tim pool
What if Trump, like, announced, like, he's having cataract issues and his right eye is a, Is, you know, is anyone?
@donniedarkened
That'd be insane.
That'd be crazy, wouldn't it?
tim pool
But the injury, the bullet to his head, some say lines up with the prophecy about the.
@donniedarkened
Yeah, some people say that.
I think it's more of a foreshadowing almost, like almost like a symbolic type of thing.
Like, I don't think it's like a literal fulfillment of like Revelation 13 3.
I think it could be like a foreshadow.
tim pool
Like, do you think AI is the beast?
@donniedarkened
I do.
Maybe not the beast, but I think AI could probably have like a big part in like, because like Trump's pushing the AI thing, like, Pretty tough, isn't he?
tim pool
And the beast is described as what, like seven heads with like 10 crowns or something like that?
unidentified
Yeah.
@donniedarkened
Well, you know, actually in the Bible, it talks about how there's an image that there's an image of the beast and it's given a mouth to speak.
And I think that could be AI.
tim pool
It's AI, bro.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You can't, like, unless you have everybody has a cell phone and you can't buy or trade.
You go to stores now and they're cashless.
I was saying you go to the airport, you can't get your ticket unless you have a phone.
You go to a kiosk and say, print my ticket.
unidentified
Nope.
tim pool
It says, we'll email it to your phone.
So, you have to have one of these network devices.
That's the beast, bro.
The phone is the mark of the beast.
Then it's going to be Neuralink, and everyone's going to have it on their heads.
@donniedarkened
Yeah, the Neuralink thing.
tim pool
Wasn't it like your right hand and your head or something like that?
@donniedarkened
Yeah, your right hand or your forehead.
Yeah, the Neuralink thing.
And there's a lot of weird things.
And you talked about earlier about the Trump world order, something about cryptocurrency.
I'm wondering, could cryptocurrency play a role in all this?
tim pool
I think it's just AI in general is the beast.
It's all happening.
@donniedarkened
It is, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, the earth actually is only about 50 years old.
We all were created at the exact same time.
Memories we have, all fake.
That Earth was created the day Ian was born.
ian crossland
Dude, you're making me feel like I'm 27 again.
I was psychotic for like a year of my life believing that for real.
tim pool
Only a year, huh?
ian crossland
You can track it on YouTube.
I made YouTube videos almost every day going through it.
I thought I was creating reality.
You are creating reality, but you're also part of a reality that's being created by others.
That's what I was.
tim pool
It would be like the funniest thing imaginable if it turned out that like Ian was some prophet and it's like religious folk had to accept it.
They were like, no, not that guy.
He said too much weird things about my religion.
It's like, you know, God's miracle proves that it's Ian, you know what I mean?
Like, he's a divine prophet.
ian crossland
People are like, wait, when Jesus comes back, I think they're all like, they think he's going to be a good guy or be like really cool.
But, dude, though, Jesus talks mad shit about Judaism.
Like, he was on the outs with the mainstream.
tim pool
Did you see the view when that lady was like, Jesus never went around claiming I was the Messiah?
unidentified
I saw that.
tim pool
And that other lady was like, yes, he did.
And she was like, no, that would make him a narcissist.
It's like, no, it wouldn't.
He literally did this.
ian crossland
My last name's Crossland.
And I started to get a Messiah complex around that time when I started doing YouTube.
I was like, oh my God, I'm the center of everything.
But I feel like if I believe, because I want to help the world, I'm like, what if I could be the second coming?
What if I could be that guy?
elad eliahu
Can't you just help the world without being the second coming?
ian crossland
Exactly, because if I start to believe this philosophy of the second coming and the end of the world and the anti, that it will become reality and there will be a horrible war that kills whatever it is.
carter banks
Then you become a cult leader.
ian crossland
Yeah, and I don't want that.
I want to actually help the world.
tim pool
People don't know this, but Ian's right eye, it's a glass eye, and his arm has actually got a metal rod in it.
What if Ian was the Antichrist the whole time?
@donniedarkened
The whole time.
tim pool
Now the Christians are going to be like, yeah, I believe it.
ian crossland
I think we're all capable of it.
elad eliahu
Well, he doesn't age, so.
ian crossland
Dude, everybody could become the Antichrist in the heat of the moment when it's all on the line.
If you choose evil, if you choose sin.
elad eliahu
Can somebody explain to me?
I feel like people use Antichrist in so many figurative, literally.
I don't know what the Bible is.
@donniedarkened
He can explain it very well.
elad eliahu
I don't know.
ian crossland
In the Bible, it's a guy.
tim pool
Let Donnie describe it because he's the expert.
ian crossland
Donnie can explain that.
But my take is like, maybe it's a way people can be.
You can be Christ like or you can be Antichrist like.
tim pool
No, I'm just made up.
ian crossland
Anyway, Donnie, take it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
@donniedarkened
So, Antichrist, okay, so there's the spirit of Antichrist, right?
So, there's been many Antichrists throughout history, whatever.
But, you know, in Revelation, it talks about the beast, and people call him the Antichrist.
So, in Revelation, it doesn't actually say the Antichrist, it says the beast.
And the beast is this guy, right?
He's a strong Gentile warrior from the West who helps Israel and, you know, defeats their enemies and is like, you know, speaking great, boisterous things and then, And then, you know, the Israelis are like, wow, like, this is our guy.
Like, this guy is so awesome.
He's defeating our enemies.
He's doing what we want.
And then at some point, you know, he allows them to build their temple and he allows them to do their sacrifices.
And then he flips.
He flips.
He takes control over the holy city, over Jerusalem.
Revelation 11, 11, 2.
The Gentiles will trample the holy city for 42 months, right?
So it's three and a half years of the tribulation and launches the biggest persecution of Jews.
So bad that, according to Zechariah, two thirds of Jews will die.
And the last third of them will literally cry out to God, and all of their hope and pride and their military and their human might will be crushed.
And then, in that moment of humility, they'll cry out to God.
And then that's when Zechariah 12 says that they will mourn for the one they pierced.
So they'll recognize Jesus as the Messiah.
That's when Jesus comes back.
He defeats all the Gentile armies of the world, he dashes the kingdoms with the breath of his mouth, and that's when he establishes his kingdom in Jerusalem.
That's like basically the short version of Revelation.
And then that's when the thousand year came.
elad eliahu
In practice, when people are talking about Antichrist and reference this, what?
It's just a euphemism for people you don't like?
@donniedarkened
A lot of people use it like that.
elad eliahu
Is that what it comes down to?
I'm trying to really understand.
@donniedarkened
A lot of people use it like that.
elad eliahu
Somebody sucks as a communist, he's an antichrist.
Oh, I used to like this guy and he's manipulating me.
Antichrist.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Yeah.
@donniedarkened
I don't like that people throw out the term so much to the point where it means nothing anymore.
Kind of like the word Nazi or something.
It just doesn't mean anything.
But it's like, biblically speaking, it means a very specific thing.
And then when we're talking about eschatology and we're talking about the beast, then we're talking about an even more specific thing.
And that's why it's like when people like Tucker Carlson and all these people talk about, oh, I think Trump's an antichrist or.
The Antichrist, it's like, I don't really think he has a good understanding of what that means and why, right?
elad eliahu
I think he's just using it because it sounds good and provocative.
It gets the people going.
unidentified
Yeah.
@donniedarkened
And it's really a dig at Israel.
I think it's really the heart of it.
It's like, you know, because the whole thing is like, oh, like, you know, they hate Jesus and that's, you know, Antichrist.
unidentified
Oh, I see.
@donniedarkened
So that's kind of like how they're using it, right?
But like, biblically speaking, the Antichrist is, you know, a Gentile king.
Who allies with Israel for a time and then flips on them.
So if Trump is the Antichrist, that would mean there would come a point in time that he.
elad eliahu
Where he flips on the Jews.
@donniedarkened
Where he flips on them.
Tucker Carlson Misunderstands Antichrist 00:02:01
unidentified
Oh, exactly.
elad eliahu
So wait, doesn't he want that?
Doesn't Tucker want the.
@donniedarkened
Well, I don't think Tucker understands it.
I don't think anyone who's.
elad eliahu
No, deeply about it, they just hear Antichrist.
Oh, you're not Christ.
You're against Christ.
That makes you bad because I like Christ so much.
@donniedarkened
Yeah, a lot of people just associate Antichrist with Israel.
And it just feeds what they already believe about things.
And they're not really using the text or anything to kind of.
tim pool
Let's grab some of these chats.
We got Mariusia says Tim, please read the book, The Red Amendment, about the evil implications of 14A beyond just birthright citizenship in terms of eroding our rights and state sovereignty.
Also, look into the maxims of law.
unidentified
Interesting.
All right.
tim pool
Mariusha also says, read a post talking about how early settlers came to America for abundant wild meat in a time when most lived on veggies and grain.
Subsistence peasants would risk much to live like lords.
Plus, it helps to raise IQ.
unidentified
Interesting.
All right.
tim pool
Missy Kin says, Tim, now do you believe that Vice News and El Reeve were likely partnering with ACLU to embed and provoke Nazis in Charlottesville to build their narrative?
I don't know.
I mean, maybe she works for, does she still work at CNN?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I think a lot of these people are CIA.
The way it works is that the CIA will go to like a 22 year old like intern and say, hey, I'm going to be your source.
Go to your boss and tell them you've got a source in the CIA and the FBI and we'll feed you stories.
They go to their boss.
This is how they cultivate a journalist.
They can then leak information to the young journalist is really excited to be like, I have a source in the CIA.
Then the news organization loves it because they can't be sued because they have a source in the CIA who's claiming these things.
And they'll be like, Shield Buzz, you'll never figure out who the person who's leaking to us is.
And they're probably lying, but so what?
You can't sue me.
CIA Interns Feeding Fake Stories 00:05:45
tim pool
And there you go.
All right.
unidentified
What's it?
tim pool
King Salami says, Tim slept on his friend's couch for a bit.
Indeed, I did.
And as I was sleeping on my friend's couch, I was working at Vice, starting Vice News while sleeping on a couch.
Shout out to Harrison.
unidentified
What up, brother?
tim pool
Sleeping on his couch.
And there were other people who had their own apartments and were saying, I wish I could do what you're doing.
And I'm like, well, instead of.
Running an apartment.
I spent a couple hundred bucks on a couch.
And then I put the rest of the money in my savings account.
And then I travel around with it.
And you know what?
@donniedarkened
Are you going to do, huh?
tim pool
Let's see.
Bamboo says a Republican government that does nothing for you is much better than a Democrat government that actually oppresses you.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And that's ultimately the point.
The unfortunate reality is it just means you can have tyranny now or later.
And it's like, later, I guess.
Like, okay.
And that's what's happening.
unidentified
Yeah.
Later, I guess.
tim pool
Do you think this is the end times?
@donniedarkened
Yeah, I think so.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
@donniedarkened
Yeah.
tim pool
How much longer do we have?
@donniedarkened
Well, I was just talking to Chris about this, but if anyone's interested, they should watch Messiah 2030.
It's a really, really good thing on YouTube.
unidentified
Really?
elad eliahu
Yeah, yeah.
2030.
I feel like there's a long history of people making a lot of buzz about the world about to end.
unidentified
Yeah, for sure.
elad eliahu
You know, if you really want to get people going, you really want to scare the fuck out of people.
Oh, guess what's about to happen in five years?
Guess who's coming back or guess.
@donniedarkened
Yeah, yeah.
The world's ending, all that stuff, yeah.
But this one is really interesting for a lot of reasons.
But, you know.
unidentified
No, I'm sure it's.
tim pool
So, is it going to end or not?
@donniedarkened
Well, technically, in Revelation, I mean, Jesus coming back isn't really the end of the world, but it's sort of a new beginning, right?
Because, like, Jesus comes back.
It's basically the beginning of a new world order, really, because Jesus is supposed to come back and he's supposed to basically take over the world and establish a new government over all the Gentile nations, right?
From Jerusalem.
So, like, that's really the whole point.
tim pool
A one world government?
@donniedarkened
Yeah, absolutely.
And my theory is that all the conspiracy theorists and all the people who talk about the New World Order are actually falling into the deception because they're unwittingly being set up to oppose Christ's return and reign when he does come.
tim pool
So, you think he's coming?
@donniedarkened
Oh, yeah, he's coming.
tim pool
But do you think, like, in our lifetime, we will see.
@donniedarkened
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
tim pool
What if Trump's actually the return?
@donniedarkened
If Trump is?
unidentified
Yeah.
@donniedarkened
That would be crazy.
Well, I don't think that's.
Because Trump is, like, the embodiment of, like, everything that's anti Christ.
Yeah.
I mean, and not in a way where, like, people accuse me of being, like, a Democrat or something.
Like, by no means.
But, like, you know, he's very, like, he exalts himself.
He's very, like, into his ego.
Like, he's very.
He hates forgiveness, right?
Even at, we were talking earlier, but even at Charlie's funeral, he, you know, he talked about how he hates his enemies.
He, you know, it's just like the polar opposite, right?
Yeah.
tim pool
So, man, you know, I feel it a little bit.
I do.
Like, I think there's a lot of things that are undeniable that could be.
I'll put it this way we are not wet robots in an indifferent universe.
That is just not true.
And anybody who actually paid attention to what was going on in the world, like, bro, Our last studio was across the street from Sandy Hook's Avenue.
It's like we're in Harper's Ferry.
All of these things just.
ian crossland
Yeah, we're training AI for the next generation of governance, which might last a thousand years.
And I think what sets the United States apart is its morality, the people's morality that we've extrapolated laws, which comes from Christianity.
So to have a profuse speaker that exalts or extols the virtue of morality through the United States lens, because I've always been like, Yo, my three dudes are Jesus, Einstein, and George Washington.
Like, we need a George Washington that's like Jesus.
tim pool
Alex says Tucker is fake and gay.
Kinzinger is fake and gay.
They make it so easy just to say Trump is right, even if we disagree with him because they are such psychos.
unidentified
Hmm.
Let's see.
tim pool
OJP says The most ideal move for the U.S. and Trump in regards to Iran is to send Israeli troops as a proxy.
Both right and left would agree to this.
You see, that's the thing, Ian.
If that was really the case, Israel would be doing all of it.
ian crossland
If what was really the case?
tim pool
That the goal was to have Israel take over the Middle East?
ian crossland
No, apparently someone's going to fight their wars for them and that person's going to be the Antichrist.
I don't know what's going on.
tim pool
So this would mean that Jesus would have to be alive right now.
@donniedarkened
Well, the whole thing is he never resurrected.
So he's seated at the right end of the throne.
tim pool
He's been alive the whole time.
So he comes back.
@donniedarkened
He comes back.
He descends on the earth and he doesn't come as a suffering servant this time.
This time he comes as a warrior king.
ian crossland
Ripped?
tim pool
I don't mean that derisively.
Is he going to be like a very strong warrior looking dude with like armor and.
@donniedarkened
Well, he's actually going to, so it says that he actually has a white robe dipped in blood, and then he's got a sword coming from his mouth.
unidentified
What?
@donniedarkened
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then, and then, and that's when, and he's going to come, and he's literally going to kill, like, a lot of people, like, according to Revelation.
And he's going to, he's going to, it says he's going to dash the kingdoms of the world with the breath of his mouth.
So, like, the West, you know, a lot of these nations, you know, according to the Bible, all these kingdoms are going to basically fall and capitulate to Jesus, his kingdom.
tim pool
Bro, I've seen a character in a white robe with a sword coming out of his mouth before.
unidentified
This is a.
ian crossland
Dashing the kingdoms of earth is like getting rid of national governance for corporate governance.
tim pool
You don't know who that is?
Biblical Prophecies Of The Beast 00:04:10
unidentified
No.
elad eliahu
From Naruto?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
It's Orochimaru.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
@donniedarkened
I wonder if there was some inspiration.
tim pool
Well, the inspiration for Orochimaru is based on a Japanese folktale about what is it?
Tsunade, Orochimaru, and Jiraiya.
The valiant Jiraiya knight saves Lady Tsunade from Orochimaru.
And then they just use that.
Like, that's what they do in Japan.
Like, people don't understand that Goku from Dragon Ball Z is actually just the generic monkey god they have 50 million versions of.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tim pool
And then they just, you know.
elad eliahu
I thought it was a generic white guy.
unidentified
Goku?
Yeah.
tim pool
No, Goku flew in a nimbus cloud and had a staff that extended and a monkey tail.
That was the original from Dragon Ball.
And there's a bunch of different versions of that same character.
It's like an old folk tale in Japan or whatever.
unidentified
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah.
And then Naruto, like the Ninetailed Fox, it's just like reiterated versions.
Like in Pokemon, Ninetales is a fox with Ninetales.
It's regurgitated the same thing over and over again.
All right, my friends, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show.
So smash the like button, share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life.
It's going to be at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
Donnie, do you want to shout anything out?
@donniedarkened
Yeah, just shout out, shout out.
If you want to learn more about what I'm talking about, go to my ex account at DonnieDarkened and go to my highlights.
And there's a lot of material for you to look at.
And also watch Messiah 2030.
Shout out Messiah 2030.
And that's it.
unidentified
We're right on.
elad eliahu
Good evening, everybody.
Thanks for tuning in.
I am Alad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast.
You can find me on social media at Alad Eliyahu.
Thanks for tuning in.
What's up, Ian?
ian crossland
Just drinking some water, man.
I changed the pacing.
I liked that.
I was in full control for a moment.
Hydrate, take care of your body.
Donnie, thanks for coming.
Great to see you again, Elad.
I'm at Ian Crossland.
Follow me on the internet, Carter Banks.
carter banks
Great to see all of you.
Thanks for coming, Donnie.
I'm going to be watching Messiah 2030 on YouTube tonight, for sure.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm going to check that out.
How long is it?
@donniedarkened
Chris watched part one.
So there's three parts.
All together, it's six hours, but you can just watch part one.
It's like two hours.
Chris watched it last night.
He told me his mind was blown.
unidentified
Oh, man.
carter banks
I definitely got to watch it.
@donniedarkened
The whole car ride.
tim pool
Wait, how long was it?
Part one?
@donniedarkened
Maybe like two hours.
tim pool
Oh, my God.
Two hours.
I don't have two hours.
@donniedarkened
We're an hour and a half.
tim pool
I'll watch tomorrow.
carter banks
Anyway, you can follow me at Carter Banks on X and at Carter Banks Official on Instagram, everywhere else, at Trash House Records on YouTube.
unidentified
Tim.
tim pool
We'll see you all at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL right now.
Well, there you go, my friends.
Virginia, it's a yes.
They've taken away your right to vote.
There it is.
And then, you know, Trump says a ceasefire is still happening.
So, yeah, I don't know.
We got a bunch of stories.
I'm more interested to hear about like evidence that the world.
unidentified
What is this?
I don't know.
What the hell?
@donniedarkened
Looks like that guy Ian Carroll a little bit.
tim pool
AI was giving advice to a guy on how to shoot and kill people.
So, this Messiah 2030 thing.
unidentified
Mm hmm.
tim pool
Like, what can we expect?
Like, give us some juicy stuff that's going to come out.
Messianic Jews And Deception 00:14:37
@donniedarkened
So basically, it makes the case that, okay, so it talks about how, you know, how it talks about in Genesis that God created the world in six days and he rested on the seven.
unidentified
Yeah.
@donniedarkened
So basically, they make the case that human history is actually a, there's 6,000 years of humanity struggling against sin and then a thousand years for the millennial kingdom, right?
And it's based on this thing called the thousand year principle, which is in 2 Peter, where it says that a day is like a thousand years to the Lord.
unidentified
Right.
@donniedarkened
And it goes through each of the days in Genesis and how it actually coincides with biblical history.
And it actually says that, you know, Jesus came right on time, you know, on day four, where, you know.
tim pool
So this is day six.
unidentified
Yeah.
@donniedarkened
So this is like, this is day six.
This is day six.
This is right before when it's supposed to be the thousand year Sabbath rest.
Right.
And it goes through all of these different pieces of evidence.
Like literally from the start of the Bible to the end.
And even, you know, some early church fathers actually believe this as well.
Like Irenaeus, who wrote Against Heresies, he actually talked about this principle of, you know, 6,000 years followed by a thousand year Sabbath rest.
And then after the thousand years is the eighth day, which is the eternal state where heaven and earth meet again.
tim pool
But then what happens to like everybody?
@donniedarkened
What happens to everybody?
unidentified
Yeah.
@donniedarkened
Like at what point?
So, in the millennial kingdom, when Jesus comes back, there's still going to be like people on the earth.
A lot of people get a misconception that when Jesus comes back, you know, that's when everything ends.
And that's not necessarily the case.
tim pool
No, it's like a war, right?
And like the big war and stuff, or like, or what?
unidentified
Yeah.
@donniedarkened
So, so when Jesus comes back, there's going to be a big war.
Essentially, Jesus and all of his angels will essentially destroy all the kingdoms of the world and make them capitulate essentially to his kingdom.
unidentified
Whoa.
Yeah.
@donniedarkened
So, like in the Old Testament, it talks about during the thousand year kingdom, it says that the nations will be forced to go on a yearly pilgrimage to Jerusalem to celebrate the Feast of Tabernacles.
And if they do not do that, they will receive no rain, right?
Meaning that there will be still rebellion in the millennial kingdom, right?
So, there will still be, you know, forces that, you know, and Zionist?
unidentified
Yes.
@donniedarkened
And that's why I think the anti Zionist thing is becoming so popular right now because I think what's happening is.
It's essentially a deception to prepare people to oppose Christ's return when he comes because he's going to be seen as the final boss of the Zionist New World Order.
tim pool
So, what happens to Ian?
@donniedarkened
Ian?
Yeah.
If he survives the tribulation.
tim pool
So, what's going to happen in the tribulation?
What, rain, fire?
@donniedarkened
Yeah, there's going to be a lot of plagues, a lot of things that will happen.
You have the seals, the trumpets, the bulls.
And if you survive that, which it says that many nations will, even in Daniel, it says that.
tim pool
But, like, even non believers.
@donniedarkened
Yeah, there will still be non believers.
tim pool
If Jesus comes down with a sword out of his mouth and is like, It has begun.
Can you then be like, well, I believe in Jesus now?
@donniedarkened
Yeah, but the thing is, he's going to be seen as a hostile.
So, like, so this is so one of my other predictions is that during Trump's administration, we're going to see a lot of UFO declassification.
tim pool
It's happening.
@donniedarkened
And it's happening right now.
I made this prediction all the way back in 2021 that when Trump comes back, there's going to be a big focus on the, there's going to be a big thing about the UFO declassification.
And you're going to see a lot of people saying, talking about how aliens are demons and how all this stuff.
unidentified
Why?
@donniedarkened
Because What's happening is it's the setup for when Christ comes back, he's going to be seen as a hostile, alien, or demonic force coming to invade the earth that humanity must unite to fight against.
unidentified
Right?
Jesus.
carter banks
So it'll be nearly impossible to fight against.
tim pool
But will Christians be like, nah, that's Jesus?
@donniedarkened
So I actually think a lot of Christians are also going to be deceived by this because a lot of Christians are already taking this very staunch anti Zionist position, right?
And when Jesus comes back, he's going to come back as the king of Zion, he's going to come back as the rightful.
King of Israel, right?
And to take and to fulfill the Davidic covenant and take David's throne.
That's why he's called the son of David, right?
He's called the son.
tim pool
This sounds like Trump is the Antichrist.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because if this is happening now, like who else could it possibly be?
It's not people.
@donniedarkened
Who else could it possibly be, right?
And if the Messiah 2030 timeline is correct, that would make the start of the tribulation spring of 2027.
ian crossland
Is this something to do with AI?
tim pool
So, World War III starts in spring.
If World War III kicks off in spring, then that proves it.
ian crossland
What is the tribulation exactly?
@donniedarkened
So, the tribulation is a 42 month or three and a half year period where all the Gentile nations coalied around the beast, right?
To essentially seize control of Jerusalem, to seize control of the Temple Mount, Mount Moriah, where literally the throne will be, and the city of Jerusalem.
This is talked about in Zechariah 14.
This is talked about in Revelation 17 and in Revelation 19.
And then at the end of the 42 months, and then that's where we see the two witnesses come out, and they'll be most likely Messianic Jews, Jews who believe that Jesus is the Messiah.
They'll be preaching to Israel, hey, Israel, this is your last chance to repent.
This is your last chance to acknowledge that the Messiah is actually Jesus.
And while all this.
tim pool
What if Jesus does not appear human, right?
Like you said, like an alien?
What if he comes and he looks like something different?
@donniedarkened
Then that would even lay more credence to my theory that Jesus' coming is going to be framed as some sort of alien invasion.
And I think that's why the UFO declassification thing is all happening, right?
tim pool
But will he say, I am Jesus?
I have returned?
@donniedarkened
He will most likely.
It doesn't really save like what he says.
carter banks
Wouldn't it be fair if he didn't say that?
unidentified
Yeah.
Right?
@donniedarkened
Yeah, I mean, probably.
ian crossland
No, you got to have to.
@donniedarkened
But I don't think he would call himself Jesus.
He'd probably most likely call himself Yeshua.
unidentified
Hmm.
@donniedarkened
Yeah.
And he might even be speaking like another language.
unidentified
Aramaic.
@donniedarkened
Yeah, Aramaic.
ian crossland
Are these computers going to try and spoof it and like give us the AI virtual Jesus and be like in the sky?
@donniedarkened
So, a lot of the pagans that I talk to, I talk to a lot of like pagans and they think what's happening because I've actually forced them to watch Messiah 2030.
And they can't deny, they're like, this is kind of crazy.
So, they're like, so what if it's actually an AI Jesus, essentially?
And that like the whole point, like that was the whole goal of Christianity the whole time is to like.
Present us this AI Jesus.
elad eliahu
Is it blasphemous to say, what if AI?
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
If it's like a manifestation of Jesus through AI.
ian crossland
If your AI could give you better moralistic teachings than 98% of the parents in the United States because it's coded to be Jesus or like a teacher, people would follow it.
They would dive in to that new thousand year realm in the pod.
I could see it.
@donniedarkened
Yeah, maybe.
But the thing is, you also got to remember what happens too is that when Jesus comes back, so all the believers, all the genuine believers, are supposed to.
Literally rise, and anyone who's ever died, by the way, any Christian who's ever died, any genuine believer, and any Christian alive will literally be lifted up and be given a brand new, glorified, perfect body, impenetrable, incorruptible.
tim pool
When's that gonna happen?
Like right when he comes?
@donniedarkened
Yeah, when he comes.
tim pool
Oh, everyone's gonna believe it's Jesus then.
Yo, if some alien ship came down and all the cemeteries just opened up, opened up, and people rose up with perfect young bodies, it'd be like, it's happening.
ian crossland
It'll be like your grandfather will be an AI avatar you can talk to.
tim pool
Oh my god.
Yeah, dude.
That's creepy.
elad eliahu
Are you a Christian?
What flavor?
@donniedarkened
I would consider my.
I'm non denominational, but I think that the most authentic form of Christianity would probably be like Messianic.
elad eliahu
Damn, the Messianics, I think those are the worst.
I think those are just Christians trying to confuse impressionable Jews by calling themselves Jewish as well.
By saying, oh, no, look, I'm Jewish.
Just like you guys are Jews, I'm a Jew, and I just believe in Jesus.
I think it's antithetical to what it means to be a Jew.
I also kind of don't believe that Jews could convert out, they could only.
Make their lives more complicated.
And that's something that the Rebbe has said.
@donniedarkened
Yes.
elad eliahu
Who many Jews believe is the Messiah, which I don't.
@donniedarkened
What do you think about Romans 11, verse 5, where it says that God has preserved and will always preserve a remnant of Jews who do believe the Messiah?
I believe that that remnant that Paul is talking about there is Messianic.
elad eliahu
I can't speak to specific Bible verses, but many Jews view it as that.
And many Jews, most Jews, wouldn't recognize them as Jews.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
@donniedarkened
And that's the thing.
Messianic Jews are very much on the outs of.
Like the larger Jewish community.
elad eliahu
They're not Jews.
I mean, it depends on how you look at it.
Again, some people, because of the ethnic component of Judaism, there is no converting out.
You can't convert out of your blackness in that same effect as how many Jews would explain it to you.
@donniedarkened
Yeah, well, yeah, a lot of Orthodox Jews see Messianic Jews as kind of like.
elad eliahu
All Jews, not all Jews, the vast majority of Jews view Messianic Jews as just Christians trying to prophesy.
@donniedarkened
Yeah, absolutely.
elad eliahu
In a witty way.
@donniedarkened
Absolutely.
And that's exactly.
And that's exactly part of the reason why the judgments come in Revelation is actually so.
The whole point of Revelation is to purge and purify the city of Jerusalem, Israel, in preparation for Christ's kingdom and restoration.
So, like, that's why Zechariah says two thirds.
elad eliahu
So, they're trying to be deceptive, frankly, with the Messianic Jews.
unidentified
You think so?
elad eliahu
I don't know if they're doing it on purpose, but yes.
unidentified
Do you?
elad eliahu
Because it's, again, Christians want to prophesize people.
So, I don't know if by any means, but in general, that's the goal of the religion.
And if, you know, Messianic Jews is the way to prophesize Jews, then.
Then, yeah, but I think they're, again, like, I've spoken to a few of these messianic Jews before, they'll, you know, and they'll say they're Jewish, but also believe in Jesus, although that is a contradiction.
So, yeah.
@donniedarkened
You think, I would say that believing in Jesus is the most Jewish thing you could do.
elad eliahu
I'd say that's the most Christian thing you could do.
tim pool
What do Jews think is going to happen?
unidentified
What's that?
tim pool
Like, what do Jews think is going to happen?
elad eliahu
It depends on the Jew, you ask, frankly.
@donniedarkened
Yeah, it depends.
Like, Orthodox Jews, like, they have a different conception of, like, they don't have, like, the book of Revelation.
elad eliahu
We're still waiting for our Messiah and then the building of the third temple.
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Because I understand that's the general.
You'd have to ask a rabbi.
And then again, different flavors of Jews.
The famous quote, two Jews, three opinions.
unidentified
Yeah.
elad eliahu
I don't even think there's consensus among Jews on this issue.
tim pool
Does that mean they each have one and a half opinions or one has two and one has one?
Or maybe one doesn't even know and the other one just has three options.
elad eliahu
They forget about their first initial argument where they hear the rebuttal and then they just make a whole new argument.
You hear Candace Owens' lawyer is actually big time signing.
ian crossland
Oh, he's like one of the.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I saw that.
elad eliahu
No shame.
These Jews, man.
unidentified
You know what I'm saying?
That's crazy.
The chutzpah.
That's me.
elad eliahu
The chutzpah on this guy.
Like, they'll do anything for money.
It's outrageous.
ian crossland
I had concerns that Israel would be actually be the catalyst of World War III because they're nuclear powered.
They're hyper radical.
They're militarily vigilant.
They're on the offensive, on the offensive, on the offensive to prevent being attacked.
And that everybody would turn on them and then they would go to nuclear war.
And I'm like, and this fucking aligns with what you're talking about about Israel being rallied around the beast, people rallying around the Gentiles, rallying around the beast, and attacking Israel.
Is that what the fuck?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
ian crossland
Would they bring it on themselves?
@donniedarkened
Yeah, there's definitely an element of that for sure.
The whole point of the end times is to basically break the pride of apostate Israel, to get them to recognize that their strength doesn't come from military power or pride, but in God, and then bringing tribulation unto them.
elad eliahu
A lot of Israelis already believe that.
A lot of religious Jews.
In Israel, all the Hasidic Jews, they don't believe Israel might come from the IDF.
They believe it comes from God.
And then these are the same people who actually don't.
There's a military mandatory draft in Israel, but Arabs and religious Jews are exempt.
And they believe that it's not incumbent on them to serve.
They make up something like 30% of the population of Jews in Israel now.
Why?
Because we study Torah and pray for you guys.
And that's the real work that keeps you guys and the state alive.
They argue that.
They legitimately argue that.
tim pool
Yeah, let's jump to our callers.
We'll start with Sky Wizard.
What's going on, brother?
carter banks
What's up, Wizard?
unidentified
What up, Wiz?
Thanks for having me.
sky wzrd in unknown
I'm a first time caller, long time listener.
unidentified
Good name, man.
sky wzrd in unknown
So, I'm a 10 year ad vet, and the FTC is now pushing for the top advertising agencies in the world, as well as their top clients, to start playing ball with conservative media.
And my question is do you think they're just going to find ways around it, outlast the Trump admin, or do you think they're actually going to play ball?
tim pool
They'll find ways around it.
Like, I reserve the right to refuse service to anybody.
And then if a person comes in, you go, Well, we can kick anybody out, no matter what the law is.
As long as you don't explicitly say you're doing it because, you know, Ian's gay or Elad's a Jew, you can kick anybody out.
So they'll figure it out.
I don't know what you guys think.
ian crossland
Well, what was exactly you're saying is about to happen or looks like it's.
tim pool
Trump, they, they, FCC rules that advertisers can't boycott conservative media.
unidentified
I see.
ian crossland
Oh, they're going to wait.
It's going to play the wait and see game.
Big money is going to be like, Who's going to win in 2028?
If JD Vance wins, we're all in.
If JD Vance loses, we're all out.
unidentified
We'll find one round.
elad eliahu
That hand rubbing, Ian, looks so good on you.
ian crossland
It looks so good on you.
I just can't wait to make some money.
Turn them against each other so we can win.
elad eliahu
You're not Christ like.
You're anti Christ like.
ian crossland
You have to understand the anti Christ.
elad eliahu
Or is it yin and yang?
Like, you need an anti Christ to have a Christ?
ian crossland
You've got to understand the devil to.
@donniedarkened
That's kind of a dualistic view, but.
elad eliahu
I don't know.
Is that.
@donniedarkened
Not necessarily.
elad eliahu
Oh, okay.
@donniedarkened
Yeah.
elad eliahu
All right.
State Level Gerrymandering Tactics 00:11:20
elad eliahu
I also like to say, you know, you can't have the death of Jesus without the Jews, right?
Allegedly.
So, like.
unidentified
Yes.
@donniedarkened
Yeah.
And then that's a crucial part of the story.
Yeah, absolutely.
elad eliahu
Like it wouldn't have gone down without that.
@donniedarkened
Absolutely.
Well, that's the whole point because Zechariah 12, verse 10 says that in the last days, the Jews will look upon the one they have pierced and mourn for him like a mother mourns for her child.
And the whole point of everything we're witnessing.
I had a post the other day that did really well.
I said that I think that Jesus's first coming was a stumbling block to the Jews, and I think that his second coming will be a stumbling block to the Gentiles.
So that nobody can boast, right?
And that, like, and that essentially, essentially, like, how a lot of Jews were deceived and, like, into not believing in the Messiah when he comes back.
Because they're, because why?
Because they're looking for the son of David.
They're looking for a king that's going to reestablish and restore Israel, right?
But that's not what he came as the first.
He came as a suffering servant, right?
So when he comes in his second coming, a lot of Jews are going to see that and they're going to be like, oh, that is the Messiah.
He's restoring David's throne, right?
So, and a lot of Gentiles don't understand that.
A lot of Gentile Christians, they don't get, they don't really understand that part, right?
ian crossland
I think that will certainly happen that when Jesus returns.
The Christians will not realize it.
@donniedarkened
They'll not realize it.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
They'll think he's going to come back as like a Bible thumping Christian.
@donniedarkened
Yeah.
I don't think a lot of Christians, especially in the West, really quite understand like the whole biblical arc, right?
Because, like, if you look like the prodigal son story, right?
The son that's prodigal is literally a metaphor for the Jews going wayward away from God.
And then the father is God waiting patiently and then welcoming the son when he returns.
tim pool
I just want to mention that the question was about advertisers getting around boycotting conservatives.
And here we are talking about.
You know, God and the Jews.
elad eliahu
It's a metaphor for politics, really.
Like, wherever, whatever topic you start at, you'll probably end up at the Jews somehow.
carter banks
Religion is upstream from politics.
elad eliahu
Anyway, did that answer your question?
And do you have anything you want to share?
tim pool
I mean, it's hard to have a stronger opinion on that.
We just expect them to, and I don't know what else to say on the matter.
sky wzrd in unknown
No, well done.
unidentified
That was awesome.
sky wzrd in unknown
But yeah, just leave you guys with a fun little fact.
Pfizer wound up having some marketing materials where they were explicitly staying to grow the COVID franchise and just wanted to leave you with that.
But have a great night, guys.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in, brother.
unidentified
Jeez.
tim pool
Next up, we've got JC Kramer.
What's happening, brother?
unidentified
What's up, JC?
Hey, man.
jc kramer in unknown
Hey, guys.
It's been a while since I've called in, but glad to be back.
unidentified
Welcome back.
elad eliahu
Good to have you.
jc kramer in unknown
So I was listening to you guys' conversation earlier about.
Well, just gerrymandering and all of that.
And it seems like we often don't come up with solutions for the problem.
So, my question is kind of along those lines.
Do you think that changing the way we vote or the way the vote counts for House seats would change the way the representation would work?
For, I guess, or should I say, would it be satisfactory to the people if we were to change how the Voting works for House seats.
tim pool
What do you mean?
Like how does it work?
elad eliahu
That's how.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yes.
jc kramer in unknown
So the example is you have everybody put their name in a hat, right?
So if you want to become a representative, you would start campaigning, doing all of that kind of stuff as an individual.
Declare yourself either part of a party, you could be Republican, Democrat, or even independent if you wanted to.
You would then try to get as many votes as you can.
On voting day, you would count up.
All the votes, and then divide that out into percentages.
And it, you know, you would use that percentage on the amount of seats that you have for the state.
unidentified
I'm lost.
jc kramer in unknown
Okay, sorry.
So, like, if a state has 12 seats, right, and the Republicans win 42% of the vote, well, you would get essentially four to five seats there because you have.
tim pool
You mean like Parliament does?
jc kramer in unknown
Yes, pretty much.
Yeah.
tim pool
The problem is, we represent our districts.
We're not like Parliament, where party wins.
elad eliahu
Yeah, I guess we have the way the system is set up in our Constitution, and then the people elected based on that system wouldn't want to change it.
I've heard of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, NPV, which was states saying they would give their electoral votes to whatever the national popular vote was.
I know people have brought that up.
As an alternative, but I think that's like antithetical to what we had laid out on our Constitution.
We weren't meant to be a pure democracy.
I think I liked the way that we have these set up.
There's a way to have us set up the gerrymandering in such a way that the seats would be competitive.
But if that's the way the state governments want to set it up, like.
tim pool
Well, the maps right now are perfect.
It's a 55% Democrat state with six out of 11.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
No, six are Democrat.
elad eliahu
Okay, yeah.
tim pool
Now they're turning it into a 10 to 1.
They're eliminating.
And Massachusetts and the Atlantic region do the same thing.
So Democrats are not being honest about this.
elad eliahu
And I think also what we forget about this gerrymandering stuff is that it actually contributes to extremism in Congress.
If you don't have to worry about a general election and you're just running in your primary, then you get to placate your base as much as you need to because you know you're going to win in a general.
But if you have to run a competitive general election campaign, then you have to moderate a lot of your positions.
But that's not happening.
ian crossland
If you know all of your states are ruby red or deep blue, yeah, I brought it up on the main show, and I know it's a weird kind of a new thought for people.
So, the usually they just shut that off and shut down ideas when they're new.
But, like, is this heat map voting by heat map?
So, like, your locality it's not about where what state you're in, even or what city, it's about where you are located, and you only affect a diameter around you or a radius around you.
elad eliahu
I don't know, man.
Well, they have that with uh local government, right?
ian crossland
Like, I hope so.
But, like, because, like, I live on a border of a state, so I should be, I feel like my vote should be affecting people across the border because those are my neighbors and not the people at the other end of the state I live in that I never see.
Well, look, you get to vote for president and that impacts somebody across the whole country, but it's just weird that a city in the far west of a state can influence the farmers in the far east.
It doesn't feel right.
It feels like those people in the far east are more akin to the people that are near them than they are.
And the way they draw state lines also is a form of gerrymandering, and the states are essentially in.
elad eliahu
In conflict, we can set up competitive districts in these states if we wanted to.
Again, the state of Virginia is roughly 55% Democrat, 45% Republican.
I think that's what we saw in the Spamberger race.
They could make these seven, eight competitive districts and like four safe districts, but they're choosing not to.
So, despite however Virginia is cut out, we could make competitive districts out of this, but they chose not to.
And again, this is like an escalation, a never ending escalation now that we're seeing.
So, it'll be fascinating to see what the next step in the escalation is.
jc kramer in unknown
between the parties will be Yeah, and I was going to ask, is there a way that the president can affect the gerrymandering maps?
elad eliahu
I think most of these are decided on a state level.
tim pool
State level, yeah.
elad eliahu
It's all state level.
He could try to use his bully pulpit, which I believe he tried to do in Illinois.
unidentified
Texas.
elad eliahu
No, but he did it in Texas and achieved it.
He tried it in another state, Indiana, I think it was, unsuccessfully so, because the state government bucked to the president.
ian crossland
You might be able to get it from the ground up, a groundswell of the populace in a state to demand that their.
elad eliahu
You know, gerrymandered, yeah.
jc kramer in unknown
That they're really, I was wondering if you could declare it unconstitutional because it didn't represent the population.
elad eliahu
All of these will go to the Supreme Court, but whether or not they will be decided by the time the midterms come up is the real question.
So, for example, in Texas, they issue to stay, but they're not going to ultimately hear the case until after the midterms with um session, I believe.
ian crossland
The internet is like the opportunity for people to organize and to take control, but it's just a matter of are they going to do it or will they just quietly allow people.
elad eliahu
I feel like people don't even.
I feel like most people don't even know who their local congressman even is, let alone their assemblyman or state senator or what have you.
Like, people don't.
Do you know who?
I mean, I guess you know.
Yeah, do you know who your congressman is?
No, you have no idea.
ian crossland
I like Riley Moore.
I know him personally.
tim pool
He's our congressman.
elad eliahu
Yeah, but he's not his.
I don't know who he is.
ian crossland
Not my local congressman.
unidentified
I'm still in Maryland.
elad eliahu
Yeah, Carter, do you know who your congressman is?
carter banks
I assume it's Riley Moore.
elad eliahu
No, it's.
Do you live in.
tim pool
You live in what?
You live in.
carter banks
I live in Martinsburg.
elad eliahu
Oh, okay.
tim pool
It's Riley Moore.
His office is up there.
Yeah, good dude.
elad eliahu
Yeah, there you go.
Patriotic.
unidentified
I hate it here.
elad eliahu
Politically engaged.
unidentified
That's right.
elad eliahu
It's like, I feel like more people could name bullshit from the Jeffrey Epstein files than they can about the real life politics that affects their lives.
Like, they could name everybody on the Lolita Express, but they can't name two local politicians.
unidentified
That's true.
elad eliahu
That really speaks to what.
unidentified
True.
elad eliahu
Not that the Jeffrey Epstein.
tim pool
Bro, they can name the Kardashians before they can name their own state rep. Yeah.
elad eliahu
Or even congressmen.
tim pool
Bro, you can win a state rep seat with like 300 votes.
elad eliahu
Nobody will know who you are.
You could walk down the street, nobody will give a shit about you.
tim pool
But it's not just that.
You would have tremendous power in the state.
elad eliahu
Yeah.
And nobody will ever do that.
tim pool
They pass legislation.
They do it once a year in West Virginia.
unidentified
Sure.
elad eliahu
Like, we don't know who the Speaker of the West Virginian State House is.
He wields immense influence and can impact a lot of change.
No idea who he is.
ian crossland
What's their job schedule like?
Are they there every day?
elad eliahu
Just imagine, like, yeah, they should be.
Just imagine, like, Congress, but on the state level.
So, like, you know, there's an upper and lower level chamber.
There's, like, a Senate and a House in Congress, and they make laws for the entire country.
We have the same thing, but on the state level.
ian crossland
That's their full time gig?
unidentified
Too.
elad eliahu
They're there to some yes, some no.
Actually, I believe in most states they are unpaid positions or like a small stipend.
But New York, I think, is one of the only states that pays their lawmakers full time.
But, yeah, again, these are people wielding immense influence.
We don't know who the fuck they are, but you know who.
ian crossland
Yeah, I know who the Golden State Warriors are starting.
I mean, if I'm following sports, which I don't actually.
elad eliahu
Yeah, but you know what Tucker said last night.
You know what I mean?
Like, we know whatever Tucker bitched and moaned about last night, but you know your local guy.
carter banks
I know.
elad eliahu
Who the fuck's that?
carter banks
I know who the Rizzler is.
elad eliahu
Yeah, we know who the Rizzler is.
You know who Tim Pool is.
unidentified
A Rizzler.
tim pool
I don't know who the Rizzler is.
unidentified
No?
tim pool
That little fat kid, right?
unidentified
There you go.
That's it.
Oh, yeah, that guy.
elad eliahu
Whoa, whoa, the little fat kid.
unidentified
All I know.
elad eliahu
Isn't he an adult?
ian crossland
No, he's not.
@donniedarkened
No, you're thinking of the Russian guy who Andy Milanakis, maybe?
ian crossland
Mike Tyson hugged.
carter banks
Oh, that guy?
ian crossland
He has like a one word name.
unidentified
Shit.
ian crossland
Mabusto or something.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mabusto.
tim pool
Anyway, brother, you want to add anything or shout anything out?
jc kramer in unknown
I'll just add one last thing.
So, I guess, what is your solution, I guess, to the gerrymandering issue, especially in Virginia, since you guys have been bringing it up?
And I don't have anything to shout out, so that'd be it.
Who Is The Rizzler Anyway 00:02:42
tim pool
Thing?
High trust society.
The map was already good.
That's it.
I mean, they did it.
You have a purple state, and now because the state slightly leans Democrat, they basically voted to end democracy.
It's not an exaggeration to say.
They said, Should we vote so that conservatives in our state don't get a rep?
Yes.
That's it.
Majority dictates welcome to democracy.
They just ended it.
ian crossland
They're trying, but you got to speak out against it.
That's the first step speak out against it.
Let people know it's even happening.
That's one of the boons of the internet.
tim pool
Did you want to shout anything out, brother?
jc kramer in unknown
No, that's it.
Thank you, guys.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in.
carter banks
Call, man.
tim pool
Next up, we've got JLore.
What's going on?
carter banks
What up, JLore?
jlore in unknown
Hey, how are you all doing?
unidentified
Pretty good.
Doing well.
Yep.
Fired up, man.
Excellent.
jlore in unknown
Splendid.
So, at the beginning of the year, I went to school to get acquainted with heavy equipment.
And also, when I stopped in at the operating engineers, they told me, hey, you know, if you know computers, you know, Get in here because you know AI is taking over this whole thing, and uh, so my question is is there truly a career safe from AI?
elad eliahu
Nope, yeah, plus, yeah, for now, trade jobs, AI is not coming for the plumbing gigs.
Um, give it a little bit, plumbing, well, because we'll get a little robot.
tim pool
Optimus needs maybe 10 years.
elad eliahu
Uh, well, to be fair, what if they get wet when they're plumbing?
tim pool
It won't matter.
With the singularity and artificial super intelligence, we could probably make fully functioning robots that could do plumbing in maybe three to four years.
ian crossland
That would be like a gooey blob that you would put in your toilet and it would climb through the toilet.
tim pool
It's going to be an Optimus robot.
Like a robot.
Once the AI gets to, so the presumption is we already have AGI, artificial general intelligence.
Once we reach the singularity with artificial super intelligence, you will literally just say to the AI, design for me a robot that can plumb.
And it'll literally make you the perfect robot that can do it.
And it'll probably be humanoid because it needs to navigate through pipes, but it will have every motor function capability designed for you.
And then you'll tell it, now send it to the factory to get it built, and it will.
@donniedarkened
Yeah, they have like a restaurant, AI robot restaurant.
You saw that?
It's a restaurant that's completely run by AI robots.
You should look at that.
Yeah, it's crazy.
unidentified
What's it called?
@donniedarkened
I don't know.
I saw it on my timeline, but it's nuts.
You could order your food.
elad eliahu
Oh, spiritual leader.
AI can't be a rabbi, you're a priest, you're.
What's the Muslim equivalent?
AI Robots For Humanoid Tasks 00:04:24
unidentified
Imam.
carter banks
Dude, my advice would be to just learn new skills.
In everything you do, like just keep learning new skills.
tim pool
Well, I'm going to say this.
The problem is not AI, the problem is the rate of change.
I was talking about this earlier.
If you watched my at Tim Pool show, that the idea that there are people who dance online for a living is an absurdity a thousand years ago.
Go to a farmer and be like, in the future, children will just dance and they'll have apartments and they'll make money and they'll be like, what?
So people are just giving them money for nothing?
You know, I guess people play video games online for money.
AI will just change things.
The problem is, it'll happen so quickly, too many people will be kicked out of the economy at once.
That's the real problem.
jlore in unknown
All right.
elad eliahu
Yeah, priests.
jlore in unknown
I like the spiritual leader one.
elad eliahu
Yeah, I think that.
ian crossland
I don't know if it's true, though, because we were just talking about virtual Jesus coming back and psyoping us.
@donniedarkened
That's the Antichrist.
carter banks
I don't think I'll believe in that.
@donniedarkened
They just made an AI thing that's supposed to impersonate Jesus.
It's like, oh, you can talk to Jesus.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
elad eliahu
That's the Antichrist.
tim pool
That's the Antichrist right there.
There are already a bunch of AI chatbots that are Jesus.
Yeah, they've been around for a long time.
elad eliahu
Yeah, literally demonic.
unidentified
Right?
elad eliahu
Isn't that what Christians are saying?
@donniedarkened
Yeah, I don't know.
elad eliahu
A fake Jesus?
@donniedarkened
Yeah, I think it's stupid, but I think it's a little kooky to like, I don't know.
It's dumb for sure.
elad eliahu
I know this is a little bit off topic, but it just came to mind.
You know, we might have to pour one out for the what, five Republicans losing their jobs in Virginia?
ian crossland
The labor section.
tim pool
No, but that's true.
elad eliahu
Yeah, I have a list of five.
There's Rob Whitman in the first district.
There's Jen Keegan in the second district.
And then there's also Ben Klein in the sixth district, Morgan Griffith in the ninth.
And there's about to be a very competitive primary.
unidentified
That's fucking.
elad eliahu
They're just throwing all of them in the same district, and it's going to be a shit show primary.
A lot of these guys are multi time incumbents and have been serving for like a decade plus.
ian crossland
Yeah, they're putting them all in one district.
elad eliahu
They're putting them all in one district, baby.
ian crossland
It's going to happen.
elad eliahu
It's a brawl.
ian crossland
Isn't that not just a proposal right now?
elad eliahu
No, it passed.
I mean, that was the show today.
tim pool
Yeah, that was it.
ian crossland
I thought it had to go to the.
get ratified by their Senate or something.
elad eliahu
Well, it's going to get challenged, and the Virginia Supreme Court's going to rule in their favor, and somebody's going to bring another lawsuit, and then it's going to be.
tim pool
Supreme Court.
elad eliahu
Supreme Court.
Well, we'll see where it goes from there.
And then it depends on the timeline.
I'm not a lawyer, though.
I'm just a lowly reporter.
So we'll see where it goes.
ian crossland
Man, I don't know what other jobs are safe.
elad eliahu
Oh, oh, oh, lawmaker, lawmaker.
Elected official.
ian crossland
Damn right.
elad eliahu
Yeah, no way.
I mean, with all this gerrymandering, it might not be good job security, but the AI won't come for your job.
The Democrats will.
ian crossland
Targets.
Robots.
tim pool
Not if they put a referendum on the ballot that says, do you believe we should have fairness in lawmaking?
Yes or no.
And yes means have AI take over government.
And Democrats just vote for it because they're retards.
ian crossland
I think athletes, it'll be hard for AI to take over athletes at first.
elad eliahu
Only because we want to see.
tim pool
Bro, no, Same with you, man.
Wrong.
A robot just ran a marathon.
elad eliahu
I don't want to watch a human run a marathon.
tim pool
Everybody did.
It was a huge thing.
ian crossland
Compete against a robot.
tim pool
Bro, we have battle bots.
ian crossland
People want to watch robots battle.
Those are pretty cool.
A lot of those travel bots.
elad eliahu
Yeah, but that's because I like the same species of violence against one another because there's some form of fairness.
ian crossland
Robot on robot?
elad eliahu
Cat on cat, dog on dog, chicken on chicken, human on human.
ian crossland
Silver on silver, but yours is made of titanium.
It's not fair.
We need carbon on carbon.
elad eliahu
Carbon on carbon, black on black.
ian crossland
Titanium on copper.
The titanium robot would annihilate the copper robots.
unidentified
That's true.
elad eliahu
It's true.
tim pool
You want to add anything to that, brother, or shout anything out?
jlore in unknown
No, that should do it.
The only shout out I got is myself.
I got an interview tomorrow.
So hopefully everything goes well.
And shout out to Phil.
I really appreciate his advice.
Been in the gym three times in the last two weeks.
Next week, I'm going to start going four times a week.
So I appreciate that advice.
elad eliahu
Good luck in your interview.
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
Good luck.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in.
unidentified
Thank you.
See you, man.
tim pool
Last but not least, we've got Taylor Lorenz is the Rizzler.
Trump Exerts Control Over Israel 00:04:01
unidentified
Oh, what's up, guys?
Hey, hey.
Hey.
All right.
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown
So when Jesus comes back, is all my plastic surgery going to get reverted?
@donniedarkened
Yeah, actually.
Yeah.
Because when Jesus comes back, well, if you're actually like a believer, if you're counted as one of the saints, Then, yeah, you're going to get a new glorified body that's impenetrable, perfect, incorruptible.
And on top of that, you'll be given authority over whatever province you're assigned, right?
So, all the saints will be assigned different provinces and be given authority over them.
ian crossland
Just watch out that they don't put you in a robot body and then give you a virtual realm to lord over like a Minecraft world or something.
@donniedarkened
Yeah, yeah.
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown
Well, that's actually the second part of my question, Ian.
Anyway, I didn't call just to make a joke.
But anyway, hi, Tim, Donnie, Ian, Elod, Carter.
My question is for Donnie.
I've recently come back around to referring to myself as Christian again, but even when I was agnostic, I was always fascinated by eschatology talk.
unidentified
Oh, great.
taylor lorenz is the rizzler in unknown
Donnie, you called Trump the Antichrist before the shots of the head and the withering arm.
Can you connect the dots for us from the present to the fulfillment of your prophecy and drop some bold Trump specific predictions on what's coming next?
@donniedarkened
I got so many.
I got so many.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, like, one of the big ones that's kind of unfolding right now is like the UFO thing.
And, like, I think, like, like, I think that's the whole Space Force thing was like kind of laying the foundation stones for that, right?
That's one thing.
I think, like, specifically what we're going to see is it's mainly involving Israel, right?
So, like, right now, a lot of people.
See, like, Trump as, you know, a hero for Israel, like a strong warrior for them.
It's going to get some things.
I think what's going to happen is, you know, Trump's peace negotiations, his plan to make peace in the Middle East will fall apart somehow.
We'll probably blame Israel, will be seen as responsible in some way, I think.
Trump will try to probably exert control over that.
He'll say, okay, you guys can't figure it out.
I'm going to now step in and exert control over the Holy Land, right?
And to some degree.
And then that's when things are really going to hit the fan.
That's when the tribulation officially kicks off, which is three and a half years, by the way, not seven years.
The seven year tribulation thing is a dispensationalist viewpoint, which I don't hold to.
But yeah, so just keep an eye out on the Trump Israel stuff.
That's really where the center of most of this comes from.
unidentified
Good.
elad eliahu
None of us took our eyes off of the Trump or Israel.
We all have our eyes on both Trump and Israel.
I've never taken my eyes off Trump nor Israel.
I'll be on the lookout for it.
ian crossland
Do you know if Trump believes the revelation story or if Jared believes the revelation story?
@donniedarkened
I don't believe he does.
No, I don't think Trump genuinely believes.
I don't even think he understands the Bible.
I think this is what Trump's beliefs are.
I think Trump believes there's a God, and I believe that he thinks that he's a vessel.
For God, which in a way is true because the beast in the Bible is actually a vessel for God's wrath against Judah and Jerusalem in order to bring tribulation unto them so that they can be purged and purified in preparation for the kingdom.
So that's the whole point is like the beast is an instrument of God's will.
And I believe Trump believes he's an instrument of God's will, just not the way he thinks.
ian crossland
Do you know if he's surrounded by people or have people in his life that believe in the revelation story?
@donniedarkened
Yeah, so he's totally surrounded by a lot of people who believe that these are the last days.
They believe that Trump.
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