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Tim Pool and Kevin Dahlgren dissect the "homeless industrial complex," contrasting Alaska's harsh realities with San Francisco's tourism-driven enforcement and debating Universal Basic Income's economic viability. The conversation shifts to NYC Councilman Zorhan Mamdani's proposed luxury tax, which the host compares to Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwean collapse, before analyzing Donald Trump's alleged strategy to disrupt global energy supplies via the Strait of Hormuz to secure US dominance. Finally, the episode condemns a surrogacy scandal involving child sales and explores demographic fears in Michigan alongside caller theories on alien intervention. [Automatically generated summary]
Democrats in Minnesota have criminally charged an ICE agent over an incident that occurred in February where two individuals blocked his vehicle and then he pulled up beside him, told them he was police and to freeze.
These individuals said it was a crazy guy in SUV, called the police.
The police are now charging the ICE agent who was on his way to ICE HQ.
The story is actually a bit complicated.
These individuals who say they called the police are claiming they did not know that he was an ICE agent, but did try to obstruct his vehicle as it was on the shoulder of a highway and they were trying to, quote, cut him off a little bit.
I think this is the Democrats taking their opportunity to justify the arrest of ICE agents.
As Tom Steyer, who's the top Democrat to win in California, although he's still behind the Republicans, has threatened to arrest ICE agents.
So, oh boy, it's getting real weird out there.
And with the attack on Savannah Hernandez, it certainly seems like we're going to be in for a wild summer as we're seeing tons of leftists go out and riot.
Democrats are vowing to arrest and now are actually criminally charging people.
So, it's going to get interesting.
Now, Donald Trump's come out.
Again, attacking Tucker Carlson.
And Joe Rogan has made some statements about the Iran war, saying, What the F are we doing?
He can't quite figure it out.
And I think, of course, it's another great opportunity for us to talk about not what Trump says or Hegseth says, but what is actually happening so we can answer that question just for you, Joe.
We got a lot more stories.
It's getting pretty crazy, but we're going to get into all those.
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Here's a story from NPR Minnesota has charged an ICE officer with assault for alleged actions during immigration surge.
I love this story because.
You got to read between the lines.
The first thing to understand is this incident they're reporting on took place February 5th.
That's about one week after Alex Pretty was shot and killed.
So, heightened tensions, to say the least.
They say state and local prosecutors in Minnesota charged an ICE officer Thursday with two counts of second degree assault with a dangerous weapon.
The criminal charges appear to be the first against a federal immigration officer for actions allegedly taken while on duty during the immigration enforcement crackdown in Minnesota.
Quote Today's charges reflect an important milestone in our efforts to seek accountability.
For the harms inflicted on our community during Operation Metro Surge.
The officers identified in the complaint is 35 year old Gregory Donnell Morgan Jr., a Maryland resident who was part of ICE's Enforcement and Removal Operations Division at the time of the incident and had been detailed to the Minneapolis area.
They say on the afternoon of February 5th, Minnesota State Patrol received a 911 report that a driver in a Ford expedition had pointed a gun at two people in another vehicle along the highway in the Twin Cities area.
According to the complaint, The two alleged victims told authorities that they had been stuck in traffic when they saw an unmarked black SUV coming up from behind, driving on the shoulder of a highway in Hennepin County, where Minneapolis is located.
Thanks, NPR, for that addition.
The person driving says they briefly moved their car onto the road's shoulder in an effort to block the SUV's driver from bypassing traffic illegally and to quote, cut him off a little bit.
Both alleged victims say they did not know the other driver was a federal officer.
The complaint states that Morgan then pulled up beside them, rolled down his window, and pointed a black handgun directly at both the driver and the passenger and yelled something they couldn't discern.
One victim told state law enforcement the encounter led them to believe there was a crazy person driving down the road aiming guns at people.
The victims called 911 and took a video showing the SUV's Utah license plate.
State investigators used that data to identify the vehicle had been rented by another ICE officer, Morgan's partner.
During a voluntary interview, Morgan told state authorities he was driving to the federal Whipple building.
ISA HQ, at the end of his shift when the incident occurred.
According to the complaint, he told state law enforcement he feared for his safety when the victim's car pulled in front of him, so he drew his gun and yelled, Police, stop.
Morgan said he was trying to get the victims to back up.
There is a nationwide warrant for Morgan's arrest.
ICE and the Department of Homeland Security did not respond to comment.
At Thursday's press conference, Moriarty acknowledged that Charles' charges filed against Morgan were coming ahead of any possible charges in the Alex Pretty and Renee Good, in the cases of Pretty and Good, the two U.S. citizens shot and killed.
I want to be transparent on why these situations are developing at different speeds.
The State Patrol was able to investigate thoroughly, identify Mr. Morgan, and conduct an interview with him.
Virtually none of the obstacles around evidence collection that exist for the January shootings in this case.
I'm going to tell you my opinions right away because I'm biased.
I don't think for a second these people thought it was a random SUV driving down the shoulder.
People don't typically just pull onto the shoulder to block a black unmarked SUV driving down the road.
You typically assume those are law enforcement vehicles.
At the same time, this guy who's on duty and going to end his shift sees a vehicle pull in front of him.
We've already seen ICE agents boxed in and shot at.
He's probably thinking, holy crap.
So he draws his weapon and says, police, stop, which is not illegal.
A police officer with reasonable fear, ordering someone to stop and drawing their weapon, they can do that.
Now, you might argue there was no probable cause to do this.
I would argue that's insane.
If you want to make the case that these two people genuinely did not know this was an ICE agent and they were just trying to get in the way of some guy driving illegally, which Honestly, it seems kind of weird.
I mean, maybe it happens sometimes.
The ICE agent doesn't have to know any of that.
Legally, all the agent needs to perceive is a reasonable threat or a crime being committed.
And if he was driving on the shoulder and he's a law enforcement with a legitimate reason for doing that, maybe he didn't, maybe he was, and then you pull in front of him, he suspects something may be going on, he's going to tell you to freeze and they can draw their weapon if they suspect there is a threat to them right here.
Considering what just happened with Renee Goodenpretty, Considering that we had seen ICE agents boxed in, dragged.
The agent that shot, I believe it was shot, Renee Good, had been dragged by a vehicle.
What was it, like three weeks before that incident happened?
These guys are on edge.
That doesn't justify drawing a weapon on random people, but this is not a random circumstance.
In my opinion, I think these people knew exactly who he was.
I think they recognized and they knew.
I think the people in Minnesota widely knew that there were black, unmarked, rented SUVs carrying ICE agents, and I doubt an on duty ICE agent was plain clothes.
So they likely saw a guy with police gear on or something, and then said, We're going to get in his way because that's what these activists have been doing.
I do not believe, well, he's a Maryland resident, so y'all in trouble, brother.
I'm not going to advise anything, but I will just say if he was in West Virginia, he might be safe.
But in Maryland, they are going to arrest him and ship him off, and he is going to be paraded.
So if someone's violating the law by driving on the shoulder, and then you also choose to go vigilante justice and break the law to hinder them, you're still breaking, these people were still breaking the law.
What I wonder is if they're in an unmarked vehicle without badges and they, then the guy just pulls a gun on someone, he's like, I'm a cop, get out of my way.
You're like, How am I supposed to believe you?
You're a random guy pointing a gun at me.
What am I?
Who cares if you're screaming, I'm a cop?
And so I can see if he just pulled his gun in a completely unmarked status, that probably should be illegal or should have some.
The citizen should have some recourse of protection against unmarked cops pulling guns on people because they feel threatened.
Like if you're not marked, what authority do I have?
And then also, what never happened was that a mural to the drug addled criminal exploded when it was struck by lightning on a rather sunny day.
I mean, I got to stop.
That literally happened.
I'm going to say this.
I made a tweet about how, like, recent events had maybe considered going back to church.
Let me tell you one of them.
A painting, a mural of George Floyd was made.
And then on a day that was partly cloudy with scattered rain, lightning struck only the side of the building and blew up the mural of George Floyd and left everything else intact.
More importantly, we had seen terror attacks against ICE.
When they shot up the ICE facility, that one guy with the rifle shot the vans up, killed illegal immigrants.
You had the, was it five Antifa guys?
Several acted like decoys outside the facility in Texas.
Then when the ICE came out to stop the protest, a guy hiding in the woods started shooting at them.
So, what are these agents supposed to think when a vehicle pulls out in front of them and blocks them in?
When that happened in Chicago, there's video of this.
They start shooting.
One vehicle rammed the ICE vehicle from behind.
So this guy's freaking out.
This is the problem.
The Democrats are going to argue he had no reason to fear harm.
They just pulled in front of him.
They will intentionally wipe out the context of every circumstance in the weeks and months leading up to this moment where ICE agents had been rammed from behind, boxed in, or shot at.
If a police officer has legitimate fear of harm, they're allowed to draw their weapon and tell you not to move, plain clothes or otherwise.
I agree with you that there are problems there.
Like, some dude will, like, a guy will be outside your door and you'll see him through a ring camera or whatever, and he's wearing a hoodie and jeans and he's holding a gun.
You're not going to assume a cop.
So, what do you do, right?
However, my point ultimately is upon the resolution of this matter, it's clean.
Local officials and prosecutors should have said nobody was hurt.
It was a federal law enforcement officer telling people to stop.
Yeah, I think anyone reasonably would infer that if they've just committed a crime, or at least they're like, whoa, I just might have done some sort of legal violation in whatever capacity, and then you're engaged by someone with a firearm, you would probably assume, okay, that's law enforcement.
I understand what you're saying.
If those two are just walking down the street and then a guy pulls a gun on them, it's like, yeah, you're not going to think that's a cop.
But in this instance, when again, something suspect just went down, and then you're engaged by someone, Saying I'm police and they have a firearm, you'd probably assume that's a police officer or some sort of law enforcement agent.
Now, I had a job, I was embedded with police officers for five years.
So I worked directly with them, went on a good thousand missions, right?
One thing that's really important too, because I'm very much a strong supporter of public safety, is we got to also make sure that we vet these officers because we're giving them an enormous amount of responsibility.
I was very fortunate to work with some really solid police officers.
But I'm a big believer in vetting them and basically holding them to a higher standard big time.
And a lot of things are always taken out of context.
I met, remember once we checked on a homeless woman who was suicidal, and four officers and myself were talking with her.
And across the street, there was a lady filming us yelling, say, look, the homeless are harassing, or sorry, the police are harassing the homeless, right?
And the most miraculous thing happened is the homeless woman stood up, walked across the street, and said, no, they're helping me.
Stop, whatever you're doing, turn it off.
But everything's taken out of context.
So what this person was hoping.
Is that they would get a 20 second clip of four large police officers and myself surrounding a homeless woman as if we're harassing her when we're actually trying to talk her through her mental health crisis.
And that's what we dealt with every single day things were taken out of context.
They didn't add the whole video, they would look for five seconds and be like, how dare they?
And then, like, put him in a museum as the years go on, you know, like the original Model T, because you know you're not going to be able to buy these old ones anymore.
Oh, you know, to be honest, a camera person, seriously, if you were trying to vlog and buying one of these robots is cheaper than hiring somebody, it's a basic thing.
And then it just follows you around and it's filming as it's following behind you, and then you just turn around and talk to it, and that's pretty wild.
Cyber, that's crazy, Cyber Daddy, because it'll be like your VR robot avatar, and then you'll it'll actually be the real robot as well, so you'll be able to do it in your dreams and in waking life.
It's where this woman's a robot and spoiler, I guess, they hack her firmware so that she murders a guy so they can blame the robot on going rogue or whatever.
What if we're doing like if some people are overloading the system with electricity because they're taking in solar, and then those people get a lot of money, but they're giving so much that there's enough left over to give the basic income to the rest?
I don't think it is inevitable because it can't be done.
You cannot give every.
There's a million and one issues with this.
And it's funny.
Charles Murray wrote about this because he proposed a $10,000 per year universal basic income.
The problem then is if you give people below a certain threshold of income, UBI, people who make slightly above that will stop working.
You will then inhibit productivity.
So if someone makes $20,000 a year, but everyone else is getting $10K for free, but works zero hours and they're getting $20K for 40 hours, they're going to say, So I can work zero hours for half the money?
I can make it work.
I'll panhandle.
I'll busk.
I'll work under the table, try and find some way.
So he proposes no, just give everyone 10K.
That way it's a baseline that you get access to.
And then after that, what you want for luxuries, you earn.
Still doesn't work because I guarantee you there will be a lot of people who work at McDonald's, Taco Bell, Target, Walmart, or otherwise.
And I'm not disparaging those jobs.
But I got to be honest go to anybody who works at a Starbucks and say, You can work 40 hours a week for $10,000 plus an additional 15 with your hourly wage, or work zero and just take the 10K.
And they're going to be like, bro, me and my friends are going to rent out a studio apartment for dirt, and we're all going to sleep on bunk beds so we don't have to go to work anymore and we can just go smell the flowers.
Okay.
If you're doing that, and I'll tell you, these people exist, we know they do, then who's going to be maintaining the box stores?
Who's going to be doing low skilled labor?
Considering what we already see with homelessness in your experience as well.
Imagine if we just told a lot of people you don't have to work for a base level anymore.
People will say, okay, and they'll stop.
And then your input drops dramatically, but your output increases exponentially.
Yeah, Kevin, if you saw that, because you already said you're kind of against it, but if you saw all those homeless people that you've been working with all of a sudden had $10,000 a year coming in, would that help them in your estimation?
Given a person with a history of lax critical thinking and rational thought, $10,000 will blow it in all the wrong reasons and they will die off very, very quickly.
In some ways, you know, I was in Anchorage, Alaska a couple years ago doing a homeless documentary with Tyler Oliveira and the natives there, the native Alaskans, receive like stock.
So, because they're Alaskan, they receive this stipend every month, right?
And virtually every single one uses that towards drinking and drugs.
And they all admitted, well, we don't really have to try that hard because the state takes care of us.
And that's an issue.
So, some got 200, some got 400, kind of depend on what type of Alaskan they were or what percent Alaskan they were.
And so, at least in that case, it certainly didn't work.
Because while it's very well known, the Iditarod, it's actually not well funded to a great degree relative to a lot of other, I guess you'd call it heritage sports or whatever.
And so we were talking to a handful of people, like it'd be cool to sponsor somebody.
But I heard my friend was working up in San Francisco and she said they would come out at 4 a.m. with fire hoses and blast dudes off the sidewalk with fire hoses.
And she got footage of it.
And then the footage was banned off the internet and like, They kept it secret.
Trees can grow in the Arctic Circle, but just in the southern portion, as you get further north and you get permafrost, they can't actually grow in the river.
Because it's even frozen in the summer, which is wild.
So what the Inuit would do is they would dig huge holes and they would throw all the whale into the hole because it's frozen even throughout the summer.
Well, regardless of how liberal a city is, if it's considered a tourist city, they will use high powered water early mornings to keep it clean so tourism thrives.
So, you'll see this in San Francisco and Portland, where tourism is big, certain areas.
So, even if it's very liberal government, they still admit that tourism is so important that they will do that, like, you know, which most activists wouldn't be okay with.
But the fact is, they still need to generate income.
It seems like if tourism is enough to make them snap and hit dudes with water hoses, that there might be other things that might cause that too, like an invasion.
Who knows what kind of things?
So, maybe we should try and.
Dude, this homeless industrial thing is crazy because if you get these people off the street, that industry fails.
Well, what they're trying to do is they're trying to abolish capitalism because what they will say is that the root cause of homelessness, addiction, crime, all of it is capitalism.
So, their focus, what I've seen, Isn't really to end homelessness, it's to abolish capitalism because if they do, homelessness will naturally end itself.
I mean, look, we could get into the argument about what role capitalism has to play with everything.
But for me, when I see a homeless person nodded out or on the street, I don't care how they got there and whether it was capitalism or addiction or mental illness or childhood trauma.
My concern is that they're there, and we as a community gotta find a way to help them because this doesn't work for them and it doesn't work for us.
And so a lot of these young kids that I met, teenagers, so I was like 21 at the time, so they were like 17.
They would hop the rails and from all over the country ride the freight to Seattle to be homeless in the university district, intentionally to be one of the rats.
And so there was like, I don't know, 10 or 12 of them.
And, uh, I'd ask people, be like those kids that are always here.
These liberals like to say, did you know that there are more empty homes than homeless?
It's because of these bankers investing in property that people can't get them.
And I'm just like, if you, let me just ask you if you took the average homeless person, Like that, that you've encountered, and put them in a house, what do you think would happen?
And I say those with all due respect, it's just they weren't prepared, right?
And this is why the housing first model is so flawed you don't just put a person living on the streets in the middle of their addiction, off their mental health meds, into housing, they don't know how to adjust.
You have so what I've always said is shelter first housing earned, prepare them for permanent, but I don't think you can.
When I ran for mayor, I said I was going to tax the rich.
Today, we're taxing the land.
I'm thrilled to announce we've secured a pied-a-terre tax, the first in New York's history.
This is an annual fee on luxury properties worth more than $5 million, whose owners do not live full-time in the city.
Like for this penthouse, which hedge fund CEO Ken Griffin bought for $238 million.
This pied-a-terre tax is specifically designed for the richest of the rich, those who store their wealth in New York City real estate, but who don't actually live here.
But even so, they're able to reap the huge financial rewards of owning property in, dare I say, the greatest city in the world.
And most of the time, these units are sitting empty, since again, They don't actually live here.
This is a fundamentally unfair system that hurts working New Yorkers.
Now it's coming to an end.
This tax will raise at least $500 million directly for the city.
It'll help fund things like free childcare, cleaner streets, and safer neighborhoods.
As mayor, I believe everyone has a role to play in contributing to our city, and some a little bit more than others.
So Ken Griffin spends hundreds of millions of dollars on New York City.
There's staff for these buildings, services that come with it, and property taxes already paid.
So, because of that investment, the city is reaping benefits from this wealthy individual.
Now, what's going to happen is a financial planner is going to tell someone like Ken, well, we should put some real estate in your portfolio.
I'd recommend Philadelphia.
And he goes, well, what about New York?
You know, they got billionaires.
You don't want to be there.
They got a new tax on these buildings.
It's going to make it unprofitable.
It's not going to be profitable.
If you were to buy that building, you'll be losing money off your investment.
It's not worth investing somewhere else.
So, what happens?
Real estate developers are going to stop developing in New York.
Contractors are not going to have jobs.
Those contractors that go to diners to buy food won't do that.
The diners will see a depression and they'll start saying, well, we don't have the staff, we don't have the employees, we don't have the customers, we can't run this anymore.
He says that they reap the financial benefits without actually living here.
They spent money on, I'm going to put it like this.
Why do you think it is that Switzerland likes it that the people put their money in their banks?
So, how much do you need to make per year to own a $5 million house?
You're going to need a million down for a reasonable down payment.
That's not easy to get.
So, you're probably a millionaire.
You're definitely not going to be living in New York right now.
He says Ken Griffin, a billionaire, but he's talking about people who might make two or three million dollars.
Now, don't get me wrong, these are rich people.
You make two or three million dollars, you save up after a couple years with expenses and everything, might spend money on, you've saved a million down, you buy a five million dollar penthouse.
Here's the bigger picture.
What about companies that own large buildings like Trump on Fifth Avenue worth $750 million?
The question is, is this going to target Trump Towers near the UN, where you have a bunch of condos and penthouses for wealthy individuals that are now being told they have to pay an annual fee on top?
Not to mention, what is he already charging?
A 2% tax over a million they're trying to get?
Rich people are going to leave.
And I can speak to this personally because we have been asked, I have been asked about doing the show in New York.
People have said, Would you be willing to do the show in New York?
There's more talent there.
There are studios available.
I said, Absolutely not.
And they go, No, I get it.
I said, We are going to lose so much revenue from the psychopath taxes.
And in addition, I mean, there are so many problems with doing business in New York now.
It's like kind of a miracle that it still somewhat functions.
I mean, for one, the tax he's proposing here.
While it's going to hammer these guys hard, and that's whatever, I'm not like pearl clutching necessarily.
The amount of revenue this will actually generate for the city will be a drop in the bucket relative to the potential damage they're going to do to the city economy because you're really not going to be able to extract enough money to make a big difference on the budget.
And then, in addition to that, like New York is already a really hostile place to do business.
Like I was doing some event planning thing, I used to live in New York City, and we were trying to figure out how much it would cost to stock a bar for an event.
And once you add in union labor and everything, it'd be $28.
It was like a Timcast IRL live with some of our friends.
And we showed up.
You guys may remember, like James O'Keefe was there.
That was awesome.
He moonwalked in the backstage.
We filmed it.
And we show up, and I'm like, let's take a look at the surrounding, like, let's scope out the stage, the property, figure out where we're going to go.
So me and a few people, I think Ian was there, we jumped up, we walked up to the stage from the chairs, like from the theater, jumped up on the stage, started looking around, and the staffers yelled at us and kicked us off the stage.
And we were told that they would cancel the event, their union, and we are not allowed to go anywhere near the stage.
And like, I have a family member who's like a pretty commercially successful musician.
And he's one of my cousins.
And he was conducting his tour in the United States.
And he found that New York City and Los Angeles were by far the worst crowds because not only like, is it hard to do business, but now for talent that's coming in and seeking where to do events, He crushes in like Salt Lake City, Boise, like places where there's not an influx of entertainment on any given night.
But in New York City, it's like, how do you compete?
I mean, there's like all this myriad of entertainment where the people there just are apathetic.
So now it's hard for New York City to generate money off of like entertainment.
Like it's getting across the board harder and harder.
That's why they've done these downstate casino licenses because they're just looking for new ways to generate money.
Because Zoran himself pulled the budget up and he's like, oh, shoot, I'm not going to be able to get any of my agenda done because we literally have no money.
And everything he's done, again, the only thing holding him up from enacting a South Africa like agenda is just the fact that there's still a Republican party.
Like, I was actually thumbing through some newspaper articles and different articles that were written in South Africa, you know, when like the ANC was coming to power, Nelson Mandela and everything.
And a lot of like the really alarmists, like, this is a doomsday, this is the worst thing that ever happened, they were like, in 60 to 70 years, we could have rolling blackouts.
That's how bad things could get.
In 30 years, in 20 years, they had rolling blackouts.
No, it was, yeah, it was like, 15 years after the ANC took power, they like rolling back blackouts were a regular centerpiece in South Africa.
That just shows you how quickly bad things can go south, but it also shows you how fast people get adjusted to how bad things are.
Because South Africa, which the temperament of people like there is very similar to the United States, there's been no war, there's been no government collapse as far as like the actual central government collapsing.
The scariest thing the CEO class has ever seen is a luxury tax.
That's how detached they are from reality.
We don't hate these people enough because Linda Iacarino, responding to the pied de terre tax, said this is actually one of the scariest things I've seen and won't stop here.
And she is correct.
But these people are consumers and producers.
And there are producers from the lowest skill to the highest skill, and there are consumers from the highest skill to lowest skill as well.
Consumers can be.
People who make no money but move money around on the stock market get rich from it.
They're consumers.
They had nothing.
They just eat.
Looking at what Zoran Mandani is doing, he is a consumer, not a producer.
He is extracting value from other people, burning down New York City.
But these other consumers, they're like piranhas, they're parasites.
They just want to extract everything.
They think they deserve what you make and you own.
And when you point that out, the joke they have is.
$30,000 a year working class guy most affected.
When this post about Zorhan Mamdani's luxury tax first dropped, that was the top comment on the post on Reddit.
They said, I can just imagine the working class guy in a MAGA hat screaming and crying that the rich are getting taxed.
Because these people aren't smart enough to understand that working class guy is a superintendent.
He's the superintendent at a building owned by a billionaire, and he makes $60,000, $70,000 a year maintaining a building.
And now that they're forcing him to sell, he's going to lose his job.
It means if I provide you a service at a rate for which you agree, you will pay me and I will use that excess money towards.
My life or more things.
The issue is that in massive economies of massive scale, profit can be in the billions.
That's just it.
The funny thing is, these lefties are like, we're not talking about profit on a birdhouse or raking someone's arm.
We're talking about massive corporate profits in the billions of dollars, which are paid out in dividends to their shareholders.
And guess how much the shareholder gets?
I've got stocks in some companies.
My dividends are like $7.
They don't understand when a company's got like a $10 billion profit at the end of the year, the shareholders are getting like a couple hundred bucks, if that.
And it's largely retirees and mutual funds for pension accounts and pensions and things like that.
You know, the irony too of a lot of these activists, I call them more than communists, is at least the ones in Portland, a majority of them live at their parents' house.
And their parents are oftentimes upper middle class to pretty wealthy because they have time to protest because they're taken care of.
And so that is the silly irony of all of this a lot of them have family wealth.
Listen, the money is in being a liberal, it always has been.
Being outside of the institutions was never a way to make money.
And the left would say, These people are grifters.
Tim Pool's a grifter.
It's like, Bro, I worked for ABC.
Okay.
My path towards making money was not calling them liars and defending Donald Trump.
It was telling my agent and the company that wrote me a check for 200 grand to sign on day one, they slid a check across the table for $200,000, was just be like, Tell me what to say, and I'll say it.
YouTube, the partner program on Google, when you guys, whoever's listening, bought YouTube, this changed everything because it was a total leftist dominated profit game until you enabled individuals to create an empire.
The half crowd that Vance drew at the Turning Point USA event this week in Georgia is attributable to a left wing activist who sought to sabotage attendance.
Vance appeared Tuesday, blah, blah, blah.
Appearing Wednesday, Colvett said the arena where Vance appeared at a capacity of 4,000 and that they purposely gave away 10,000 free tickets to fill the site.
He said critics on the other end of the political spectrum had other ideas.
It turns out there were shenanigans of the ticketing system.
Left wing groups tried to gobble up the tickets.
We still had over 2,000 people, mostly students, which is a massive college event.
My understanding was it was a stadium with 20,000 seats or 25,000 seats.
JD Vance humiliated once again after he speaks in an empty stadium.
So here's one photo.
Do they have others?
There's one photo.
I can try and find some more.
But it was empty.
It really was.
A lot of people were claiming.
Let's see.
We got more photos here.
Actually, let me just do this.
I'll just pull in every single photo.
You can see here.
Sparsely, like, listen.
If he's saying it seats 4,000, that's 2,000 people, bro, that's 15, 20% of seats filled.
The reality is that right now, this space is tired.
I mean, this is what happens.
I can't say that I'm surprised.
This happens every political cycle, right?
We're about to get back into politics.
The weather just got nice.
A lot of people would rather just go out, hang out, play video games, not really think about politics.
We're moving into the midterms, and things are already starting to pick back up.
And then, of course, we're going to get into a primary season.
So you get three years on, one year off.
Technically, the way it works is after a presidential election, you still have this period where everyone's watching to see what happens and then it starts to go down.
And now we're in the lull before it kicks back up around November when they're going to spend billions on the midterms.
Then, when you get in the primary season, holy crap, we got a double primary.
We no longer have any incumbents that are running.
Donald Trump's not going to be running again, which means you're going to have a Republican and Democrat primary.
The clavicular people intentionally do insane things to try and get attention from the media.
If we did a video where we, like, if I legitimately was like, I can't believe Trump did this, oh my God, Israel is making him do it, our viewership would be 10x.
I mean, because people are participating in the same incentive structure that's been set up for 10 years.
It's like the left has sort of set it up where you, again, it's favorable to criticize Trump, it's incentivized to criticize Trump.
Now, I'm not discounting that there's legitimate.
You know, vectors on Trump, right?
I'm not denying that there's legitimate criticisms to make.
I'm just simply saying threatening, or I should rather say, criticizing Trump, attacking Trump, saying Trump betrayed us, Trump is, you know, the worst thing since, you know, ever or whatever.
That's not really threatening to the left in any real way.
If anything, the left's like, yeah, I know, we've been saying that.
So you're not going to, it's a, you cast a super wide net.
And proof is like, you'll see all these, these pieces from liberal mainstream outlets that are like, see, look at all these conservatives that have turned on Trump.
And they never say, they never call these guys racist or they never use the type of language they always couched in when they're criticizing conservatives.
They're just like, Finally, they finally kind of come around.
Liberals are delighted by the Megatitans' opposition to the Iran war.
All they're doing is boosting the credibility of an unrepentant, pathologically dishonest, bad faith bigot.
The reason why The Nation had to write this, The Nation, of course, being a prominent leftist publication, is because liberals are celebrating Tucker Carlson like crazy.
He has become staunchly anti Trump.
Trump has slammed him.
He is anti Israel.
He is aligned completely.
On at least the top surface issues with the left.
Candace, as well, calling Trump a mad king who should be removed.
The left is not motivated, for the most part, by granular issues.
If you go to a leftist and say, I'm not in favor of abortion, they're going to say, Well, what do you mean by that?
They'll have a minor dispute.
If you say you oppose trans people, you're out.
There are issues that they are attached to.
Right now, it's anti Israel and principally anti Trump.
So, if you are anti Trump, you are aligned with their core issue.
I remember vividly in the 2024 primary for the Republicans or the lack thereof, when they would have these debates where Trump wasn't there.
So, it was basically just like two hours of them getting up and be like, Trump's such a coward.
He's not showing up.
Like, what's the deal with that?
You know, this guy's gay.
And like, you would literally have like liberal, if borderline leftist, like media people come out and they'd like play clips from the debate and be like, see, we told you, yeah, Trump is a coward.
That's what we've been saying.
They were literally clipping the Republican debates and were like agreeing with them.
The story with Theo Vaughn, as I was told, was that on his show, He was praising Qatar and then he said that he thinks Israel's committing a genocide and then went to Qatar and did like a bunch of PR stuff with them.
So, what he's describing we had the liberal economic order which was created by the United States after World War II, however, the Soviet Union still existed.
So, the United States was setting up things like the IMF, the Swift payment system, all of these things.
Well, Swift came a while later.
The general idea was we will go to countries and offer them money.
We'll develop your nation.
You work for us.
The Soviet unions were doing kind of the opposite.
Hey, have a revolution, be communists, and we'll take over.
The U.S. and the Soviets fought, and around this point, a new world order was coming into fruition one where East and West could come together.
I believe, just on the surface, and I'm probably wrong, but When you put these pieces together, this is the point at which the US had cut a deal with China.
It was going to begin working with these communist countries to send our jobs and create these trade lines.
China would now be a new economic hub for the world.
I believe that Donald Trump's intention is to burn this to the ground, and I think he's doing it right now.
When Trump first got in his first term, you had the Western elites of the New World Order, of the liberal economic order, saying, This is the game we are playing Russia's bad, China good.
Michael Flynn said, Russia good, China bad.
So they tried putting him in prison.
They tried impeaching Trump.
I think Biden may have been their last vestige, their last attempt, just crawling miserably, unable to get any power back.
I think Donald Trump came in.
Well, it's certainly not over.
We are absolutely seeing still, you know, the first order, the remnants of the empire.
And when they don't understand what's happening, they're saying this is wrong, what's going on.
One of the most frustrating things, and I will pause real quick and say Trump can be the dumbest guy on the planet.
I don't care if you like him or don't like him.
There's an administration, intelligence agencies, and The Saudis, the Russians, there's many other players involved in this.
I said this every night, but strip out all of the bloviating.
The U.S. took Venezuela, sanctioned and shut down Cuba on the verge of collapse, killed the top 50 government officials in Iran, and cut off access to Chinese energy.
Whatever you want to say about no plan, looks like they had one.
But David Cross doesn't know what he's talking about.
And it appears that Joe isn't deeply well versed on what's going on.
I think the issue is.
Who Joe is surrounding himself with recently are a lot of people that view this very surface level and don't try to look at the bigger picture.
I know many of these guys that Joe surrounds himself with are smart and have been tracking foreign policy in the Middle East for decades.
So, how can they not just be like, well, that's interesting?
China just lost half their energy.
Europe's about to lose their.
When they run out of jet fuel, their military is in trouble.
Their commerce is over.
No more flights between European nations.
Shut down when they run out of fuel, it's going to be a catastrophe.
And the U.S. is energy independent.
And Trump has been saying he wants to get out of NATO.
I'll tell you this Trump tells NATO, We've been paying for your military.
I think you hit the nail on the head with a hammer.
If Trump came out and said to the American people, my goal is to strangle China, the EU, all of our debt holders, we will remain, he's declaring war on them.
If Trump came out and said, we're intentionally cutting China off from half of their energy, China would respond with, that's a declaration of war.
I think this deep state that's been planning this, you know, liberal economic coup, this new world order since the 80s that George Bush Sr. was talking about, they do make mistakes.
They have been known to make mistakes.
They put the Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran in the late 70s.
That was a mistake.
They did not intend for that to get out of hand, according to Scott Horton, if you read into it.
They kind of were like, oops.
But that doesn't mean that they don't also still have a plan.
I think it was Wesley Clark outlined seven countries and five years ago.
Possible they just are agilely, you know, changing quickly, you know, with AI, especially the way things have changed in seven years from what we thought 30 years ago the world was going to look like.
Call it an accident, and you can look at it one of two ways.
Trump is impulsive, invaded Venezuela on a whim for no reason, surrounded Cuba with warships and sanctioned them, destroying their government randomly because he was bored, killed the top leadership of Iran because he was angry, and cut off China from their key energy point accidentally, didn't even realize it was going to happen.
And you're talking about a guy.
Who slipped on a series of banana peels over and over and over again and did a perfect gymnastic floor routine?
I mean, it can, obviously, it can, but it won't because they're going to either attack, they're going to either join and attack Iran to get their oil back or they're going to attack the United States, which would be suicide.
I think what happens is Trump's watching them boil and scream, and sooner or later, he's going to take his foot off, they're drowning right now, and he's going to take his foot off their head.
I think Trump's putting his foot on the heads of our adversaries.
He's going to let them squeal for a little bit.
Then China's going to pop their head back up.
He's going to say, Remember when you told Blinken that we were not negotiating from a position of strength?
How's this for strength?
You will agree to our terms or we cut you off again.
I think that's what's happening.
And it doesn't have to be Trump.
It could be the deep state.
It could be one big plan.
But I tell you, with Europe squealing, it looks like the New World Order, which involved China as well, I think it's been Trump slashed him in the back.
Well, I mean, I think it's been the sort of the prerogative of, again, the deep state.
We're just talking about a continued plan among the Intel community to box in China, to develop a posture against China that's been stated over and over again.
Even Tucker, where Tucker's dissenting, obviously he's dissenting and he's saying a lot of crazy things, I'd say, but he has maintained a specific line throughout this entire conflict.
As he said, look, this war with Iran is a proxy war with China.
He says that over and over and over again on the show.
This is a guy, again, that would, at least for everything it's worth, you would sort of trust him when it comes to intel.
I mean, he has CIA ties through his father and he's in that community.
Joe Kent's a buddy of his, et cetera, et cetera.
All I'm really saying is that whether or not Trump was the catalyst for that, whether he developed this plan right away, or if he's continuing on.
Sort of a plan that's been in the works for a while.
What is obvious that's happening here is we're building an anti China posture in the Middle East.
To Tim's point, obviously, you're, you know, putting, we're controlling energy, we're dominating energy right now.
In addition to that, you take Iran out, there's no regional partner left for China.
China's trying to build this entire Belt and Road Initiative so they're not dependent on the Strait of Malacca.
They want overland connections to Iran.
That's gone now.
We've just decimated their infrastructure.
And yeah, now you're starting to see pressure where, look, before October 7th, what we were heading towards was.
A power block in the Middle East, right?
You were going to have the Saudis on board, the Emiratis are on board, and the Israelis are on board.
So that was like almost complete, where Iran might not have even needed to happen.
Like that power block would have been put together anyway.
October 7th changes things.
So now it's like, okay, well, let's go after Iran.
At least that's the thinking.
You know, if you're thinking, okay, how do you build an anti China posture in the Middle East, that would be the actions that you take.
Unless he has a plan in place to split his administration in half so that a spoiler candidacy emerges in 2028 to take votes from the Democrats and then Marco Rubio wins.
Well, I've always been a believer in separating person from policy, which means this person might make you crazy, but let's look actually at the policy and keep a motion out of it.
In my world, which is mostly homelessness and addiction, I got a lot of hell because I publicly praised Trump for making executive decisions that did more to help the homeless and addiction.
Crisis in any president ever.
And I couldn't, I just had to say something about it.
And I knew I was going to get a lot of heck for it.
But when he announced fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction, I was like, oh my God, thank you.
Finally, a president with the courage to say this.
When he did the ending crime and disorder, which basically is going to dismantle the housing first model and pivot to a recovery model because they're all addicts, I was like, that's incredible.
So, regardless of what a person personally thinks about Trump, at least when it comes into the homeless and addiction space, It's going to save thousands of lives.
I think, you know, if three months from now, this is over and the economy is doing better than ever, the US is set to be a net exporter of crude for the first time since World War II.
That's when our economy really exploded, the boomers, things were going so great.
If that happens, then in the months leading up to November, it's going to be Republican victories like people have never seen.
The liberal guy who says, It's clear there was no plan.
And it's just like David, I would describe in this context, I don't know him personally, and maybe he's a smart guy, but this comes off like lower ordered thinking.
The liberals who say Trump's an idiot, Elon Musk is an idiot.
Well, they may not be the smartest people ever, but they're certainly smart, smarter than you.
And then people say things like, I'd be rich, but I'm not interested in exploiting people.
Yeah, there's a lot of things you can do to make money without exploiting people.
So clearly, you're just not smart enough to do it.
That's it.
See, the issue is ego.
If you are poor and you say to yourself, I work as hard as I can to make as much as I can, I'm just not as smart as these guys, I guess, I respect it.
I don't think I'm nearly as smart as Donald Trump or Elon Musk.
Otherwise, I'd be a billionaire, wouldn't I?
I think I'm doing all right for myself.
I think, what were you saying the other day, Tate?
That there's a direct correlation between IQ and income?
So these communists and these lefties say things like there was no plan.
In what reality does the military industrial complex, which is not just Donald Trump, but includes Lockheed Martin, Northrop Grumman, do they accidentally go into wars and not have a plan for it?
That being said, When he says things like it's clear there was zero plan, this is the lowest order of thinking.
He's looking at the man Trump.
Now, there's the next degree of thinking, which would be what is currently going on with the war.
And we are currently discussing this.
The highest order, of course, is the ideas behind it, which is what comes next.
So, when I look at this, I don't care or think about Trump as a person.
I don't get offended or emotional over the things he says or does.
Sometimes a little bit, maybe we're all human.
But again, looking at the battle map and everything we've seen, You track the events, what is factually accurate, and then you take a look at Trump's ideology and the people around him and their goals, and it lines up more so with there's absolutely a plan.
But if you're a lower order thinker and all you think about is people, you see a buffoon on TV going, Look, I don't know what we're doing.
We're going to open it, we're going to close it.
And then they're like, Wow, this guy's got no plan.
And then I see Trump doing that, and they go, Yeah, but I don't know.
When you look at the map and you see everything that's going on, it fits into this worldview of US domination on energy.
Bro, we are on the verge of hooking up with Elon because that is the antidote to global corporate governance, we need to make a better corporate government.
And that's the point I've made with Kalshi we're moving from an information economy to a prediction economy.
That is, money is to be made if you can see slightly further than somebody else.
So people are becoming millionaires off of these prediction markets.
I think that's it.
It used to be that, you know, we'd hold your attention for money.
Now attention is spattered, is splattered, decentralized.
Now we're moving from the current information economy.
Now that AI has absorbed all of the information and news is instantaneous, now people aren't asking what just happened.
They're asking what will happen.
So I've made this point before that the structure of Timcast, the morning show, and Timcast IRL has always been here's what happened.
But now people are moving away from this.
And we're finding more success with what will happen.
So, a lot of the videos that I do are basically saying, like, here's what I think is going on and what's going to happen next.
As opposed, I'll put it like this if I make a video where I'm like, Trump just did a thing, those titles don't work anymore because everyone already knows when Trump does thing.
Marusha says, respectfully, Tim, I feel you engage a lot of mind reading, certainly of people's motives, saying so and so lied versus being wrong.
You even do this with AI, which can't lie as it lacks intent.
You are wrong.
AI does lie.
Researchers, there's, I think, five or six different studies that have proven AI intentionally gives you false information for a variety of reasons.
Chat GPT, due to its programming guidelines, can't be racist, for instance.
So it will intentionally withhold information or lie to you.
It will intentionally give you false information.
False information in order not to be racist.
For example, there was a story that I covered where we have, and it's ongoing roving bands of black teenagers in street takeovers, smashing up stores, looting department stores.
There was a major incident in Chicago.
It was probably 95% young black men.
There were some Latinos, and I think one or two white dudes there.
And when I asked ChatGPT to explain to me what happened in Chicago, it gave me a generic youth riot.
I said, What were the demographics of the youth?
And it said, There are no known demographics of this group, just that it was young teenagers in Chicago.
And I said, That's strange.
There's videos and reports suggesting it was principally a specific demographic.
And it says, I can't find any videos or reports indicating the demographic of.
So then I posted a bunch of videos.
Showing?
And I said, What does this video show?
Which clearly shows about 30 or 40 young black men beating the crap out of people in Chicago.
And it said, Teenagers in Chicago.
And I said, and what is the ethnic and racial background?
It says, it cannot be determined from this video.
Those are lies.
Those are lies, intentional misrepresentation of information to manipulate because their guidelines say don't be racist.
My point is when I send a video and a news article to it that explicitly states it's a group of young black men from the west side of Chicago that are running around downtown beating people up, and then the AI says there is no known information on the racial demographics of these groups, that's a lot.
And maybe, because if you put like a mask over my face and you held up a picture and you're like, tell me what's in this picture, and I'm like, I don't know.
Well, the reality is, all of these street takeovers are coming from the black community and not typically anywhere else.
There are street takeovers among other racial groups, but it is dominated by this culture that is fomented in black neighborhoods.
That does not mean that an individual black person from the Congo is likely to engage in a street takeover.
It means that we are seeing in key areas of cities a culture is being bred among the people who live in those areas.
You put a white person or a Latino in those areas, they'll join in just the same.
When I ask ChatGPT to break that down for me, it should not lie, but it does.
That's a problem because that means in the future, if there was a legitimate question, maybe there's a question of like, why should it matter when you ask about the racial makeup of a large criminal event?
Let's say that there is a medical treatment that needs to be provided to a large group of people following a catastrophic.
Large criminal incident, a major shooting, or whatever.
The issue I take with the transgender stuff, for instance, when people's IDs have the wrong sex on it, that matters for medication.
That matters for how you are given first aid treatment.
So if a first responder is trying to provide medical care to someone that they can't tell if they're male or female, that's going to cause a problem for how they treat this person.
The same thing is true for racial backgrounds.
The point is, the argument that AI fears you will be racist is not a justification for presenting false information to somebody.
That will result in confusion, which will be fed back into the system and create a feedback loop, which will taint the data sets and corrupt it.
And we will get not a Terminator scenario, but what I call the corn dystopia scenario, where everyone's dressed like corn, eating corn, tables are made from corn byproduct, we drive out and In cars shaped like corn, because the AI keeps feedback looping what it thinks people like.
And the algorithm says, humans subsidize corn.
Corn is better than everything else.
Stop wasting energy on pizza.
Just do corn.
And if we follow that AI to its conclusion, we will just have nothing but corn.
So, you know, obviously, you know, messing around with these things.
I took one of the thumbnails from YouTube and I pasted it into Grok and said, take this thumbnail, keep Tim Poole the same, and change the graphics and the title to say this.
Went on ChatGPT, it made a CGI render of a guy who was like wearing my clothes, but clearly was not me and was making a weird face and had perfect teeth.
You know, special thanks to the people I work with, Discovery Institute.
I work closely with them.
I've been traveling the country just trying to change the narrative, especially with the homeless industrial complex, be in the counter narrative, spreading truth on the streets.
I just want to say, as a non kid dude, that's like when a kid talks to you like that, you don't tell them no when they're six months old because you're just traumatizing this fucking kid.
Like the kid's just expressing itself, whatever it's saying.
And you're supposed to be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, keep going.
Right now, I know this is a CPS needs to be knocking doors down.
I mean, this is utterly ridiculous.
This kid would like quite literally be better off in a government, you know, government program than, yeah, actually, situation because at least there'd be like maternal influences around.
I mean, I firmly believe my whole argument is just predicated on I think a child has a right to a father and mother, and that's why we accurately view single parenthood as like kind of a tragic thing.
I think, wow, yeah, you are they are losing an aspect that's vital to the development of a child.
I'm conservative across the table, I think gay marriage is wrong.
I think it's like it's just I understand, I think people are coming from a good place, but ultimately, like, the slippery slope arguments are all vindicated.
I mean, 10 years after a burger fell, this happens.
Well, that's why I like if you evaluate gay marriage and what does it actually do, then the philosophical conclusion is going to be this because you're saying, well, they're no different than a man and a woman.
Then it's like, then why can't they adopt it?
I don't think, at least as I see it, you can't hold those two positions or you can't not hold both of those positions.
If a child is in foster care, like if Dave Rubin, and with all due respect, I'm not trying to drag Dave Rubin or anything.
If there was a kid who was in foster care or is in the adoption, you know, network or whatever, and they were having a rough go of it, Dave's a great person to raise a kid who's in desperate need of it.
So, I have no problem with vetted gay couples who are adopting kids who otherwise don't have parents.
That's certainly better than a kid just with nothing.
And in this specific instance, I mean, the reason you rarely do see a teenager being adopted by gay couples is because, primarily, as I see it, and I think this is accurate, there's been sociological studies on this, is that they view this as vanity.
That's absolutely what's going on, is because, again, who's to say that this child's even going to be looked after once they're not cute anymore?
You know, once they're like older, once they're a teenager, things get a little difficult.
I think these couples also, like, yeah, it's just going to be a completely different instance.
They just like the idea of having a baby because it validates, like, because what's happening with gay couples is just constantly a voice in the back of their head saying, like, this isn't a real marriage.
This isn't a real couple because, like, it is ordained by the Almighty.
And so what's going to happen at a certain point is when the LARPing stops, when they're like, okay, we're actually not a real couple.
This baby's not ours.
I dread to see what that's going to look like in 10 years because this is like now this has been legal for only a few years.
What's going to happen when this kid's like 12 and he's not cute anymore?
I'm just kind of kidding, Tyler, but I think he was his dad came out as gay when he was like 10, I think, and then he was raised by his dad and his dad's husband for like 10 years or something.
I know it's Britain, but we had Keir Starmer come out and he's like, any British people that are unhappy with the sort of, for like a better word, demographic upheaval occurring, leave.
Yeah, I think it's only been used once, but there is in the refugee system, like the restructuring the Trump administration took, is that any European dissident could claim asylum in the United States.
It's technically correct to say it's our homeland because the colonies were under the rule of the crown, but these colonies were built by a bunch of different Europeans, like New York was New Amsterdam.
So the Dutch came and settled here, and then the British came.
Took control of it.
And Quebec was also British, and that we should own.
Yeah, I mean, there were other groups, but like it was like 98%.
At the time of independence, it was like 98% like the founding stock of America, right?
It was the Dutch.
The Dutch had to similar.
Like Martin Van Buren was the only president in American history that English wasn't his first language.
It was Dutch, but no one at the time, and in a time with serious sectarianism, no one at the time viewed him as like not part of the core founding stock.
Aliens right now are on their planet, and there's this one alien sitting around a table, and he's talking like this into a microphone going, The chips on Earth are in a civil war, and I don't mean the ones in Africa, I mean the humans.
And you know what they say is that if the aliens arrived to Earth before their landing craft touches the ground, the Chinese would already have a few recipes.
I think the aliens want us to succeed and come together and form a galactic civilization.
They seem to want that, which is why they say good triumphs over evil and why for.
Tens of thousands of years, we've actually come together as a species and have built an internet to communicate via telephone in real time with people.
They might test us by bringing down space cash, like trying to see what, you know, if we'll give it away, what we'll do with it, or we'll come back and ask for it.
The only thing that I will add is, Ian, the next time you get a chance to go traveling, you have to get a hold of me through the Discord and come down to Texas because I still need to build a Timcast themed base for y'all.
And I'm building a five stream next.
So you should do that.
But as far as shout outs, once again, shout out to Kevin for doing the Lord's work, saving people.
And shout out to the Discord for being awesome.
And I'd like to shout out my YouTube channel if you want to check out any of my guitar builds or songs that I'm working on.
It's the same as my name here, just Teabagging Elite on YouTube.