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March 17, 2026 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Trump Official RESIGNS Over Iran War, MAGA SUPPORTS War | Timcast IRL w/ Roseanne

Joe Kent's resignation over the Iran war sparks debates on MAGA fractures and "woke right" infiltration tactics. Guests analyze the SAVE Act, urban violence linked to TikTok trends, and proposals for mandatory national service to restore discipline. The discussion extends to conspiracy theories regarding YouTube view manipulation, intelligence operations targeting anti-Israel voices, and dystopian future warfare involving autonomous robots. Ultimately, the episode suggests that elite social engineering and media control are reshaping political coalitions and societal stability. [Automatically generated summary]

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jake pentland
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liv boeree
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roseanne barr
21:00
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tim pool
01:17:57
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stephanie ramirez
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carter banks
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nicolle wallace
msnow 00:19
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Mattress Talks and Ghostbed Promo 00:03:52
tim pool
Joe Kent announced his resignation today, citing Israel pressuring the United States into the Iranian war, saying he cannot support this, and that he was backing Donald Trump because Trump said no new wars.
However, many people who support Donald Trump pointed out that Joe Kent said Trump was right in the past about Iran being a threat, and even he pointed out that Iran was trying to kill Donald Trump something like a year and a half ago.
So, of course, this has been quite contentious with the media saying that MAGA is breaking apart.
And then my favorite was when Nicole Walls and MSNBC, I'm sorry, MS Now, said Tim Poole called Pete Exeth a war criminal, for which I absolutely have never done.
And they should apologize and retract that statement.
These people are liars.
And then to make it worse, the Independent wrote that Tim Dillon said actually what I said.
Because apparently me and Tim Dylan are interchangeable, which is not correct.
But hey, there's only one Tim allowed in podcasting, I guess.
And it's going to be one of us because the media can't figure out what's going on.
So we're going to talk about that.
And basically, this is the big news, but there is news on the Save Act.
It has advanced in the Senate.
And that means largely nothing.
It means they've decided they're going to vote on it.
They voted to vote on it.
Congress is a waste of time.
I'm sorry.
roseanne barr
Criminal criminal.
tim pool
They've let us down.
And it is presumed that they will not pass the Save Act.
We'll talk about that.
And then another bombshell from Nick Shirley tracking fraud in California.
And he shows up to hospice care facilities where there's no people.
And everyone's fleeing as soon as they see him.
And it looks like, or at least he's reporting, he's uncovered a lot more fraud to the tune of $170 million.
And sure enough, Gavin Newsom is attacking him for doing so.
I think actually, on top of that, I can add a former Biden advisor saying outright that Democrats have destroyed our cities after 200 teenagers in Washington, D.C. ran around fighting, firing a gun in the air.
And this has been an ongoing problem, especially in spring break in Florida, but also with D.C.
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jake pentland
We have Roseanne's Mossad handler yes, Cia handler as well Prod Under.
Imminent Threats in Foreign Policy 00:15:46
tim pool
Well, they're one and the same, I guess.
Right, they are yes, so what do you do?
jake pentland
I work for my mother.
I'm her literal handler.
tim pool
What's her name?
jake pentland
Jake Pentlin.
Uh, we do it.
The only Mother SON podcast that I know of, certainly with a celebrity on it.
We do it out of our house in Lanco every week, every friday.
tim pool
You've been on there indeed, so you're not really Masad.
jake pentland
I can't say if I am or not.
tim pool
Okay good, sounds like the mystery is ruined.
Okay, just keep leaving it at that.
Uh, and Roseanne's hanging out.
roseanne barr
Yeah, it's cool to be here.
tim pool
Literally everybody knows who you are.
You don't need to introduce yourself.
Hello uh, and Lives back.
liv boeree
Hello, i'm back for more.
tim pool
And who are you and what do you do?
liv boeree
Uh, former pro poker player, now i'm a podcaster.
tim pool
Indeed, of course, we got Ian hanging out, but let's just uh, let's jump into the news.
Everyone, everyone knows who you are Ian, you don't?
unidentified
You know?
tim pool
Too late, got a cane in a top hit.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Here's a story from the NEW YORK Times, Joe Kent, a top?
U.s counterterrorism official, resigns over the Iran war.
Mr Kent is the highest ranking Trump administration official to quit in opposition to the conflict.
He is also known for his support of conspiracy theories.
One of the?
U.s top counterterrorism officials resigned on tuesday, sending his opposition to the war in Iran and what he said was Israel's influence over the Trump administration's policies.
A sign of emerging divisions in the Republican coalition.
The official Joe Kent is the first senior member of the administration to quit over the war.
The seemingly open-ended nature of the U.s-Israeli war in Iran has created strong divisions among Mr. Trump's supporters, an anti-interventionist wing of the coalition which Supported President Trump because of his criticism of long overseas conflicts, has quickly become uneasy with the war, which has lasted 18 days with no immediate sign of ending.
Quote: I cannot in good conscience support the ongoing war with Iran.
Mr. Kent wrote, Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation, and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful America lobby.
Now, I will say outright, those that identify as MAGA and Republicans overwhelmingly support Trump and this war.
roseanne barr
Absolutely.
tim pool
And even people who were never Trumpers overwhelmingly support Trump and this war.
The issue is arising among moderates, individuals who are not Republicans who shifted to the Republican Party to support Trump.
We are now seeing that drift away.
But I'm curious what you guys think.
You in favor of this?
How do you feel about Joe Kent's resignation?
jake pentland
I think that's the libertarians of it, right?
tim pool
Oh, the libertarians are furious.
I mean, Dave Smith's been going off.
roseanne barr
Well, I mean, America and its ally, Israel, are taking out the threat to our freedom, our liberty, our future, you know, our safety, women's rights, children's rights, and a destructive octopus that seeks to control everything on earth.
So, yay, I'm glad they both got their balls back and stopped listening to libtards tell them, oh, no, America doesn't want to get involved and all that bullshit that only the blindest, most ignorant people on earth would say at this time.
That's my opinion.
ian crossland
I was talking with Dan Holloway a couple days ago about friendship and alliances.
They're not the same thing.
You can be deeply allied with someone that you can't stand, that you think is egregiously awful human that's a traitor and evil, but you have a great alliance with them because there's a purpose.
I think that's sort of what's going on with Israel and the United States, whether you like the people or not or like what they're doing or not.
Setting up and patrolling the Suez Canal and the trade routes and the land bridges and stuff is very important for the world order that we know, that we've come to all grow up in.
roseanne barr
And the straight of hormuz, too.
I mean, the fact that Trump is remaking the entire world.
I mean, he really, really is, and bringing down the control mechanism that keeps all the wars going and starts all the new ones, too.
Trump is putting it into checkmate.
And I love that, and by that I mean standard oil.
I mean the British oils.
tim pool
There's a few added points to bring up now, especially the response from the Trump administration, Carolyn Levitt, et cetera, and many others.
Tulsi Gabbard put out a statement saying that Donald Trump assessed the intelligence that she provided and determined there was an imminent threat from Iran.
She didn't issue a personal opinion on this, for which people are criticizing her because she has previously sold t-shirts saying nowhere with Iran.
But more importantly, the administration is saying that Joe Kent had been cut off from intel related to Iran for leaking information, and they were quite upset about this.
So he had been cut off from these meetings, which many people find shocking because he's one of the heads of counterterror.
And they were so concerned about him potentially leaking that they did not include him in these meetings.
Then he ultimately resigns.
I'm going to go ahead and say I think this is, I think there's more personal issues here than most people are seeing on the surface.
roseanne barr
I do too.
tim pool
Joe Kent previously, and look, he's been on the show several times.
I got no personal issues with the guy.
He had previously stated that Iran was trying to kill Trump.
Clearly, that would indicate an imminent threat.
We on this show with many, many prominent individuals, even anti-Israel individuals, we ask the question, if Iran succeeded in assassinating Donald Trump, should we go to war with them?
jake pentland
Of course.
tim pool
What would you say?
unidentified
Yes?
Yes.
tim pool
Yes?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Unquestionably.
And this was well before we engage in any military entanglements.
Like, if Iran's, so when you're talking about an imminent threat to the United States and you have an assassination plot that even Joe Kent agrees with, I find it then interesting when he comes out and says this is wrong and Israel is influencing us, they pose no immediate threat.
Perhaps he would make the argument that upon assessment of the internal intelligence, there is no assassination threat against Donald Trump.
Maybe that's the case.
Considering we've already seen a couple and an individual who I believe was he was Pakistani, but apparently funded by Iranians, there is a threat that has been reported quite a bit.
That would indicate a threat.
Then there are others that would say, well, our bases and our allies in the region being threatened by militia groups and the Houthi rebels, it's a direct threat to us from Iran.
In which case, I think that this is largely lacking nuance.
roseanne barr
Well, they've killed our soldiers, too.
tim pool
For a long time, though.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Repeatedly in the region.
I would just stress that based on what we're hearing internally, and there's a lot of rumors, stuff that I can't necessarily report because I don't know how true it is, but they started fighting a while back, Joe Kent and others in the administration, resulting in, let's just call it, you know, a personal rift.
And now he's come out and seemingly has an opinion counter to what he had previously stated.
Sounds to me like he got iced out.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
So he's supposed to be the official.
He's supposed to be brought in.
He didn't win his congressional seat.
They say for whatever reason, they don't want him involved.
Maybe it's because they think his opinions on going to war are bad, so they cut him out.
Maybe it's because he's leaking.
Seems like he gets upset about it.
Makes the issue about Israel when it seems like he was intending to leave the whole time.
jake pentland
I was going to say, it's funny you say that because when I heard the story the other day, I go, this sounds like very similar.
I hope you don't get mad at me.
But what happened with Whitney Cummings on the reboot of Roseanne, she was not asked back.
A lot of people don't know this.
She worked on the show.
Her contract wasn't picked up.
She was essentially fired because she was just, you know.
roseanne barr
Well, not renewed.
jake pentland
Right.
Which is in Hollywood.
So this sounds to me like what happens in Hollywood a lot, where there's a falling out personal, you're fired, and to save face, you give that person an opportunity to either transition or say something like, I need to go.
And Whitney did that.
Whitney left and said, I have to leave because of Roseanne's faith.
tim pool
Right, but they didn't cut a deal with Joe Kenton on this one.
jake pentland
No, he took this on his own.
This is my theory.
unidentified
Indeed.
jake pentland
Yeah, 100%.
He's like, oh, I'll go with the anti-Israel shit because that's hot right now.
And this will save face.
But I was obviously out anyway because they weren't happy with it.
tim pool
Yeah, I think I described the anti-Israel stuff as a mass formation psychosis.
unidentified
Yeah, it is.
That's exactly what I mean.
tim pool
I would say this, and I would assume you guys would disagree to a certain extent, but I think Israel has outsized influence on U.S. foreign policy.
I think they have outsized influence on our Congress.
And I think the U.S. tries to cater to Israel for the benefits it gets with the Suez Canal, the Red Sea, as well as our conflicts in the region.
But that's a small portion.
It's a large chunk of, but ultimately it is a minority of U.S. foreign policy.
They got nothing to do with Greenland, Taiwan, Panama.
They got nothing to do with Hawaii or the Chinese Atolls or Australia.
They've got nothing to do with South Korea.
They have their interests.
They influence us.
But the U.S. largely tolerates it.
One, because you've got evangelicals that support the messianic vision for Zion.
But then you also just have the military-industrial complex saying, we want access to the region.
We want weapons in the region.
And we have a it's not just a military base.
It is a country for which the U.S. can house weapons.
unidentified
Absolutely.
roseanne barr
It's not just that.
I mean, it's a Western ally.
It's an outlying Western philosophy there.
tim pool
Well, it's partly a Western creation.
roseanne barr
For one thing, women's rights and civil rights.
And It's a, although they say apartheid, it's the most integrated place I've ever seen in my life.
tim pool
It's funny because you see a lot of people, liberals, leftists, you know, the gay rights for Palestine or whatever, you know, and it's like, no, that's actually Israel.
If you go to Israel, they're going to let you live your life.
Not Palestine or Folks.
jake pentland
No, they throw you off a roof.
What's the best rooftopers?
Who was that?
roseanne barr
I don't know.
tim pool
But what's really irksome to me is we have been tracking foreign policy on this show since the show's inception.
I've been tracking it on my other morning, my other channels, my morning show, since I've been doing media content.
I was in Egypt during the revolution.
I have a certain degree of experience, less so than many others.
But we have been tracking U.S. oil interests in the region on this show.
I've been doing it my whole life because of the Iran, I'm sorry, the Iraq war and the war in Afghanistan.
And Iran is a component of this because they disrupt the liberal economic order and the petrodollar system.
What's irksome to me is that there are people who have watched this show and have learned everything about Joe Biden's illicit dealings with Barisma in Ukraine because they're competing with Russia for natural gas.
The removal of Bashar al-Assad has to do with getting natural gas into Europe.
And then one day in the past six months for seemingly no reason, all of that gets ripped from their minds like they're pulling it out with a magic wand in Harry Potter and it gets replaced by actually everything's been Israel the whole time.
Ignoring Joe Biden, sending his son, we presume, to be a board member along with a CIA director of an energy company in Ukraine to offset Russia's gas prime gas monopoly.
Now they go, no, it's Netanyahu.
And I'm like, he literally has nothing to do with what's going on.
jake pentland
They did that with 9-11 too in the incident.
Of course, of course.
Everything's replacing it with the Jews.
It's like this catch-all.
It's like the flat earth conspiracy.
tim pool
I think it's a perfect conspiracy theory.
liv boeree
People are just desperate to have a simple answer to really, really complex, scary problems.
unidentified
Yes.
liv boeree
That's what all conspiratorial thinking is.
I mean, some conspiracies are real, but people just want to be able to have something they can point out.
They would rather live under a scary, world-domineering cabal as an idea than decentralized chaos, even though it's not.
roseanne barr
I think they would rather resurrect medieval lies than actually know who's in charge of what, because they wouldn't like to know the truth.
They absolutely would not like to know the truth.
liv boeree
What is the truth?
roseanne barr
Well, the truth is that the royal British Empire is behind all of it.
liv boeree
Oh, no.
ian crossland
Let's go.
jake pentland
Let's do it.
unidentified
Tell me about it.
roseanne barr
And that is what Trump has, you know, pretty much kicked in the guts of.
And that's because of Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein and all the banks of City of London.
That's what's really coming down.
And of course, Iran is a great money laundering center of all of that.
And it sells 20% of its gas to China.
So Trump has put them all, including Cuba.
He's put their whole network that nobody ever talks about because they don't want to know the truth of how it's just British imperialism.
Standard oil is a better word for it than British imperialism.
They'll go anywhere for the oil.
They'll make up fake states all over the world and then sell weapons to both sides of every skirmish because they make money for their stock markets housed in Basel, Switzerland, at the Bank of International Settlements, where they decide and fund every war because they make money on war.
They are the military, industrial, pharma, whatever, medical, every kind.
They are consolidated raw power.
And they are royal.
And, you know, come on.
unidentified
But which.
tim pool
Oh, wait, go ahead.
liv boeree
We're just members of the British royal family.
Because maybe I could see that being true like 80 plus years ago when all this stuff was kicked off.
But from what I can tell, the British royal family is pretty damn neutered.
They're not doing much.
roseanne barr
It's not because of President Trump.
tim pool
Actually, this doesn't explain why everything's kind of falling apart.
They're neutered.
unidentified
Right.
liv boeree
No, but I think they were neutered like 20, 30 years ago.
Long before Trump.
Long before Trump.
tim pool
And in the past 20 or 30 years, things have been degrading internationally.
liv boeree
I think we need to be careful.
It's more complex than that.
Again, it's like we same issue that the anti-Semites are making, blaming Jews for everything.
We need to be careful not to fall into the same way.
roseanne barr
No, we can easily blame the banks of the city of London.
Absolutely.
liv boeree
I think that's more true.
I agree with that more than the royal family specifically.
roseanne barr
But the royal family, you know, is the front office for that.
Let's be real.
liv boeree
I think it's involved.
It has historic.
Yes, it has tendrils everywhere, but it's just, there's no one, I think, competent enough to be doing that.
Most of them are just sort of like, they're in a kind of retirement home, generally, the entire royal family.
roseanne barr
The prominent members, like the royals of this world own the central bank of all central banks.
Which is all royals.
jake pentland
Not just UK.
roseanne barr
Not just UK.
liv boeree
Okay, maybe.
roseanne barr
And they're all related to each other, too.
There's about 13 families of them.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story.
We've got this, to get back onto the Joe Kent story.
This should be independent.
They say even right-wing podcasters are using Joe Kent's resignation as proof of the fractured MAGA movement.
Oh, boy, I love this.
It says, quote, the MAGA coalition is shattered.
Tim Dylan, host of the TimCast, wrote on X in response to Kent's announcement.
Trump can say, I am MAGA all he wants, and it may be true, but lost support means MAGA is meaningless.
Heavens me, Tim Dylan, what did you say?
And then we have this clip from MS Now.
Listen to this.
nicolle wallace
It's their daily fair.
And so these people matter because gone are the days when endorsements or normal political things make a difference in an election or issues, heaven forbid.
These people we're talking about are why Trump wins the second time.
And for Tim Poole, who's one of them, to call Hagseth a war criminal, let's not breeze past that.
ian crossland
It's not nothing.
unidentified
It's not nothing.
ian crossland
And it's important.
But it kind of goes back to a slightly earlier part of the conversation we talked about.
Midterms Break Trump's Tricks 00:15:22
tim pool
Never in my life have I called Pete Hegseth a war criminal.
jake pentland
That was Tim Dylan.
tim pool
It was Tim Dylan.
So apparently, if you have a show with the name Tim in it, you are the same person all the time.
And so I have called on MS Now to issue a retraction and apology for that egregious lie.
Secretary of War Pete Hegseth is a gentleman and a scholar.
I know a lot of people don't like him, but I have a tremendous respect for him, though I do have reservations about our involvement in Iran.
I am not going to be hard extreme on one side or the other for the sake of attracting viewership or otherwise.
I'm going to tell you the truth.
And the truth is this.
The MAGA coalition is fractured.
Now, does that mean that MAGA is broken or dead?
No.
It means that the group of people that refer to them as MAGA still do, the group of people that refer to themselves as Republicans still do, and they still support Donald Trump and what is going on.
But we've got poll after poll showing that independents are breaking from Trump over this issue, with Tim Dylan being a good example.
But more importantly, he's always been kind of anti-Trump.
Joe Rogan as sort of this representation of the middle ground of the regular guy.
YouGov says more independents disapprove of how Trump is handling Iran than did so last week.
It is getting bad on the independents.
roseanne barr
They're idiots.
I mean, they're just complete idiots.
Well, no, the people you mentioned, I mean, do they really think that it's up to them that they have a choice of who's going to kill their ass or not?
I mean, they're stupid.
tim pool
Of who's going to, who's going to kiss, whose ass.
roseanne barr
Kill their ass.
Kill them.
I mean, okay.
You know, I really don't think we should enter this war with Iran.
Iran's going to kill you.
You don't have a choice.
tim pool
But how would Iran strike the United States?
I understand our military assets in the region, and I understand shutting down oil trade in the Gulf, but to the contiguous United States, I don't see Iran being a threat.
roseanne barr
You don't think that anyone came over here during the Biden years from that part of the world for terror that are just waiting for some kind of a cue?
tim pool
So then we need domestic reinforcement to weed them out and get rid of them.
Striking Iran doesn't change that.
In fact, it would trigger the sleeper cells, which is what we're concerned about.
So again.
roseanne barr
No, I don't think so.
tim pool
So the sleeper cells would attack us.
They won't attack us if we attack Iran, or they will attack us if we attack Iran.
roseanne barr
They will attack us the closer we get to the midterms, but because Democrats like the chaos to cover, you know, they're cheating.
But we don't have a choice in my mind, in my opinion.
America doesn't have a choice whether to enter into war with Nazi Germany or not.
tim pool
Well, what do you mean by that?
roseanne barr
Because Iran is Nazi Germany.
And if they get a nuclear weapon, which they probably already have, there's nukes missing.
I mean, they've got to be taking out that regime, not the Iranian people, who I love.
I love them.
tim pool
But I will stand by that independent voters are not happy with it.
They are breaking from Trump.
We've seen more than one poll showing this.
And this means the Republicans in the midterms are in serious danger.
Now, if the Republicans believe this is truly justified, they have not sold it effectively to the swing voter.
roseanne barr
That's true.
tim pool
Then Democrats are going to get in.
They are going to be pro-Iran.
They're going to shut everything down.
Trump's going to lose power.
He'll be constrained.
And then all of this is for not.
roseanne barr
I don't think so.
I think Trump is smarter than almost everybody put together.
I really do.
I trust him.
I think he's really smart.
I like how he's playing some kind of a chess game with various countries.
And he has removed the power, the cult power in a lot of places that add up to being in America's favor.
And I think he is trying to rid the West of its genocidal enemies, and they're everywhere.
And I think it does start in Iran.
And also, I think the more time goes on and we hear more about China's involvement with Iran and Venezuela and all these things about our elections.
I think people by the midterms are going to get it.
They're going to get it better than they do now.
And I think that the economy is going to go up by then too.
tim pool
I want to segue this a little bit into the podcaster feuding and says that's going on.
And I know you guys were eager to talk about James Lindsay earlier.
So he had a post in response to my post to which I said the MAGA coalition is shattered.
Trump can say I am MAGA all he wants.
And it may be true, but lost support means MAGA is meaningless.
Let me explain what I mean by that.
Trump won 49.8% of the vote in 2024, and he succeeded with the help of libertarians and disaffected liberals.
These people are breaking.
Dave Smith was the frontrunner for the Libertarian Party.
He decided not to run for office because he had family concerns and security concerns.
They ended up nominating gay communists for the Libertarian Party, and so these libertarians broke and voted for Donald Trump.
Trump came and spoke at the Libertarian Convention.
But most of these people, even Clinton Russell, who was running to be VP, I believe with, not with Dave, but he was running to be VP.
It was going to be with Dave.
He is very, very now critical of Donald Trump.
He is losing this coalition, which was never just Republicans.
Now, obviously, it's fair to say, as I've covered on my channel and the show, Republicans overwhelmingly support this.
Former never Trumpers are now pro-Trumpers.
And the core Republican MAGA base is 100% behind Trump on this.
So they're enjoying about 90% support.
But again, Joe Rogan's been relatively critical.
He says some people feel betrayed.
You've got Dave Smith, who's come out very heavy against Trump over this.
And that's a small percentage indeed of Trump's overall vote.
But if MAGA doesn't have this coalition, the well-organized Democrat machine will succeed because the right's going to be worn down.
Now, James Lindsay responded to my post saying, haha podcasters, showing that, yes, Republicans support Trump.
But this is not a poll about the coalition of former liberals, libertarians, the politically disaffected in general, and Republicans together.
It is literally just highlighting that Trump supporters and Republicans overwhelmingly support Donald Trump.
Now, I will stress this.
Even among MAGA supporters, he's got 6% disapproval, and among Republicans, 12% disapproval, which again, if the election were held today at those numbers with a loss of independence and with double-digit loss of Republicans, Kamala Harris, she only lost by about one point, like 1.4 points in the popular vote.
Don't get me wrong, she lost every single swing state, but she would have taken the popular vote at least.
And this, she's a terrible candidate, by the way.
So they were not going to win.
But this is apocalyptic for the midterms.
James Lindsay is doing this, in my opinion, to manipulate, as is his MO and always has been.
Infiltrate a group, convince them to say stupid things.
That way you disrupt their support base.
So Trump supporters who are following this guy and believe what he is saying are going to lose the midterms.
When I would like to point out my intention has always been to adequately inform you of what is going on.
And if you're a Trump supporter and you are a diehard MAGA and you want Trump to win, you need to pay attention to the fact that independent voters are breaking from Trump over this.
And if you follow James Lindsay, he is lying to you to lull you into a false sense of security to believe that Trump is doing better than ever and can't lose because then the libs are going to win in the midterms and they're going to cut Trump's power off.
jake pentland
I love James Lindsay.
You and I have, we've never thought about it, but we've talked about it quite a few times.
He is the one that, by all accounts, termed woke right, right?
tim pool
Like that's the thing that he made it an incomprehensible term that cannot be used in any meaningful way.
So there was a woke right that was used among disaffected liberals to describe an element of the right that have a mass formation psychosis and believe in critical theory and oppressed versus oppressor and things of this nature.
And then James Lindsay infiltrated, destroyed that, and now it's an incomprehensible term that you cannot use to describe anything more.
jake pentland
Well, the reason I ask you that is because a lot of the independents and libertarians that are leaving the party, I see a correlation with the woke right, whether you believe they're real or not, as the driving force behind that.
And why I always defend James Lindsay, because he's the one that's been calling attention to that group, because that's where I think it is split.
I think the independents are leaving en masse because of Israel and all the woke shit.
And I think he's on to it.
I know you and I disagree on Lindsay, but that's why I love him because it's like, hey, these are the people that are splitting MAGA.
This is an infiltration of MAGA.
tim pool
No, James Lindsay is that.
Do you think that it is beneficial to the Republican Party to be convinced that Trump is doing?
So let me pull up this list that I absolutely love.
Every conservative James Lindsay has called woke right.
And you've got random foreigners, traditional Catholics, Christian nationalists, philosophers, miscellaneous right-wing individuals like Joshua Lysik.
jake pentland
This list could be incorrect, but the idea I'm talking about about the woke-right dividend, my favorite.
I think he's got a claim to it.
I think he's right.
roseanne barr
Well, they're all right.
unidentified
So here's what I'm saying.
tim pool
Let me stress this.
Let me stress this.
roseanne barr
Look, they're all Jew haters.
I think that's what, to me, that's what woke right.
tim pool
Mary Morgan works for my company and is a pop culture commentator, and James Lindsay called her woke right.
jake pentland
Yeah, that's incorrect.
tim pool
Half of this is incorrect.
I am warning you right now: the man's MO is to infiltrate groups, convince them to say dumb things.
And if you are blind to the fact that he is poisoning your worldview to all of these people, all the people who follow these individuals, you're going to lose.
And he is intentionally doing this.
jake pentland
I think it's an infiltration.
tim pool
What is he famous for?
What is James Lindsay famous for?
jake pentland
Anti-communist.
tim pool
Infiltrating feminist and Marxist academic papers to trick them into publishing incomprehensible nonsense.
He is a self-admitted liberal.
He does not like conservatives.
And he has publicly stated national conservatism is the final boss.
He does not like Marxists.
He is a traditional liberal social lib.
He doesn't like the Marxists and he doesn't like the conservatives.
So he is infiltrating both groups to get them to say stupid things.
And people just blindly march behind him.
And so here we have him.
Clearly, he hates Donald Trump.
Convincing his base.
I don't know wherever the term is.
roseanne barr
I always hear him talking great about Donald Trump.
jake pentland
Yeah, we can't do that.
tim pool
Indeed, he infiltrates the group, trick them into saying stupid things, and then they lose.
That's what he always does.
So now, as the Iran.
So I will stress this.
Donald Trump is minus 6% among MAGA supporters.
jake pentland
Not good.
tim pool
He has dropped four points among MAGA supporters since the last poll.
And he has facing a 12% disapproval among Republicans on the issue of Iran.
jake pentland
But what I'm saying is that this is not good for Trump, right?
unidentified
But hold on.
tim pool
But the point is this.
You look at those numbers and you say, hey, look, 80, 87% support.
That is fantastic.
What they're not telling you is that the moderates who put Trump over the edge are breaking away from him.
And James is intentionally, look at my point.
My point is, MAGA can't win without its coalition.
unidentified
That's true.
tim pool
Democrats know this all the same.
You've got to win the middle of the road.
roseanne barr
I see what you mean.
tim pool
James Lindsay is, again, doing what he always does.
He's going to lull you into a false sense of security.
And with sentiment like this, the Republicans will lose the midterms.
jake pentland
We should have James Lindsay.
liv boeree
I don't have a strong opinion on him either way, but just an alternative hypothesis that came to mind is that he is just basically like a pathological contrarian and is like allergic to watch whoever has the dominant power.
Because if we've seen him flip-flop, right?
tim pool
There are just some people who are like, I would entertain that and say quite possibly, except his MO has consistently been infiltrate organizations, trick them into saying stupid things, and then watch them immolate themselves.
So that's how he got started.
He worked.
So here's what I see with this guy.
And congratulations, getting more airtime.
He's so desperate for it.
He works in academia and he gets upset that it's being taken over by Marxist ideology.
He's a social liberal.
He's in a polyamorous relationship with, and he talks about how he and his daughter go check out chicks together and stuff like this.
This is a traditional social liberal view that it's not overly leftist, you know, no trans in the kids and stuff, but sexual liberation, feminism, et cetera.
The conservative movement opposes those things.
He doesn't want either the Marxists or the conservatives to win.
So the first thing he does is he infiltrates the Marxists, makes them look like morons by publishing Mein Kampf, but the words are feminist terminology instead of Nazi terminology.
jake pentland
Those are hilarious.
He read some of them to us.
tim pool
Indeed, and the conceptual penis, and we all laughed because he was targeting Marxists.
Then he started doing the exact same thing to conservatives, publicly stating he's doing it to destroy them.
But see, the thing is, he gloats the fact that they are not smart enough to actually read what he's saying.
And he talks about it.
The woke right term, he said, was coined to create a catch-all to attack any conservative so he can put them under an umbrella.
He literally says this.
He tweeted out that national conservatism is the final boss, not woke right, not anti-Israel.
He's trying to destroy conservatism because the way he wants to live is open marriages, polyamory, and sexual liberation.
And that's fine if you believe in those things.
You're allowed to have those opinions.
My only point is: if James was an honest actor and said, I do not want a conservative Christian world, I do not want a conservative Christian country.
I want to be in an open relationship and I want to watch my daughter do our stepdaughter or whatever.
I think his stepdaughter actually hates him or something.
But if you want to live that world, just say it.
roseanne barr
tricking conservatives so that they immolate themselves is despicable can i just okay let me ask you because i'm listening to you and i i get it But isn't that what Tucker and Candace are doing too?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, the thing about Candace is that she is quoted as saying, I believe whatever the people believe.
So I would say her motivations largely are she just wants to be on top of the mountain.
Although I have questions about how she's married to a British lord and her lawyers work in the same building as federal agents by her own admission.
That's pretty strange.
Tucker, I find to be interesting in that he seems to have undergone a massive flip over the past several months.
The thing about Tucker, though, is largely he's a guy with opinions.
And if his opinions are bad, I say then you've got bad opinions.
I disagree with Tucker on a lot of things.
I disagree with Dave Smith, but I'm not going to condemn someone just for having opinions.
roseanne barr
Well, do you think Tucker is trying to trick conservatives?
tim pool
What I would say is I lean in the direction on some things.
roseanne barr
Because he sounds like James Larson.
Woke Jews and BlackRock Tools 00:15:11
roseanne barr
He sounds like a Democrat too now.
tim pool
He does.
I questioned when he said that Mossad was caught planting bombs in Qatar in Saudi Arabia, which has never been reported.
There's no indication of that ever happening, nor evidence.
And it's been denied by these governments who seemingly are, you know, have no, like, I mean, we are working, the United States, with these countries and Israel.
So the argument then is that they're covering up for Israel.
But if they're covering up for Israel, they support Mossad planting bombs.
The story just doesn't make sense.
Then he came out and said the CIA was planning a criminal referral against him, to which the White House said, that's not true and it didn't happen.
So I don't know who his sources are, but they seem bad.
What I can say of Tucker Carlson right now is I disagree with him to a certain degree, but he's allowed to be critical of Israel.
He's allowed to oppose the war.
And apparently he has very bad sources.
Now, James Lindsay, he's done this in the past.
He's doing it again.
And he lies about me as well.
Candace Owens lies about me, very different from Tucker.
Candace Owens claimed my brother tried to kill me, which is an egregious lie.
And people just believe this stuff.
roseanne barr
I don't believe anything.
tim pool
So I will tell you this.
There is an Israel derangement syndrome.
And let me put it like this.
I have gone on 20-minute tirades about the past 20 years of U.S. Middle Eastern policy pertaining to the petrodollar on this show with sources and facts.
We've played the videos from Obama and Joe Biden.
And then for some reason, in the last six months, people's brains fly out of their heads and they decided everything that we've already proven to them and exposed doesn't matter anymore.
Joe Biden is innocent of all wrongdoing.
It was Israel the whole time.
So when Joe Biden gets 10% for the big guy and Tony Bobielinski comes out and says they were cutting illicit deals and they have a CIA director working in an energy company in Ukraine and they removed Bashar al-Assad because he wouldn't let us build the gas pipeline and Tulsi Gabbard calls this out eight years ago and we have tracked these stories and Obama was arming ISIS, well, some say inadvertently because he wanted these terror groups to destabilize the Assad regime.
All of that gets erased and they go, Israel put a Jew in control of Ukraine to build a corridor.
And I'm like, yeah, that's never been supported any of the intelligence reports.
Not even Russia has been claiming that or China.
When you look at these foreign countries like the BRICS nations, they will outright say the United States is lying about Bashar al-Assad because he would not allow them to build a gas pipeline to compete with Russia.
So they armed terrorists to kill him.
And they removed Muammar Gaddafi from Libya because he wanted to trade oil and gold dinars and create an African Union.
All of that gets erased.
And now it's just Israel did it.
jake pentland
And that's not coming from Lindsay, not to go on a James Lindsay defense tour, but that's coming from Candace and Tucker.
unidentified
Indeed, it is.
Absolutely.
tim pool
And what does James Lindsay do when he posts?
jake pentland
Why are we not talking about the woke right?
Why are you on Lindsay?
tim pool
Because woke right isn't, because James Lindsay creates environments like this.
In response to my tweet warning Republicans that independents are breaking, this is the kind of stuff that they're posting in response to James Lindsay, equating me with the exact people you're criticizing.
So why is it that James Lindsay is creating an environment where he's trying to loop me in with the people claiming that Israel is running the world?
Could it be that when I warn Republicans you are losing independence, James Lindsay is trying to make sure people don't listen to what I have to say?
jake pentland
It's plausible, sure.
tim pool
Because James Lindsay's M.O. has always been infiltrate and destroy.
And that's exactly what he's been doing and he's doing now.
And I will stress this again.
Woke right is an incomprehensible term when you have Chris Ruffo.
carter banks
Yeah, I was thinking of that.
tim pool
Chris Ruffo's woke right?
unidentified
Chris Ruffo supports Israel.
tim pool
Mary Morgan is on pop culture crisis.
Mary Morgan comments on Timothy Chalamet.
No, this is the one example I'm making because Homeath?
HomeMath doesn't even talk about this.
He does commentary on feminism.
James Lindsay has attacked these people to create a catch-all term by his own admission.
I got to tell you guys again, you need to just read what he talks about.
He has publicly stated the term woke right was created as a catch-all term akin to alt-right so that you can poison the well and lump everyone into the same category.
Alt-right originally was coined by individual, but was used by individuals to mean an alternative to the mainstream Republican Party.
And then the AP came out with a style guideline saying alt-right means white nationalist.
Then retroactively, they went to people like Mike Cernovich, who is not a white nationalist, and they found a tweet from six months before this and then said he admitted he's a white supremacist.
This is what James Lindsay admitted to doing with the term woke right.
jake pentland
What would you like us to call them?
unidentified
Yes.
ian crossland
So define woke in 15 words or less.
jake pentland
The actual people dividing MAGA, who are they?
tim pool
So when you're referring to, let's jump to...
roseanne barr
They're Jew haters.
jake pentland
Well, yeah.
unidentified
Sure.
jake pentland
But that might just be the same thing.
roseanne barr
It is a tool.
tim pool
So if you've got these people right here, which is Candace Owens, Brett Weinstein, Megan Kelly, Nick Fuentes, Dave Smith, Glenn Greenwald, and Tucker Carlson.
unidentified
Nazis.
tim pool
Call them whatever you want.
jake pentland
That's what I call them.
tim pool
Woke right has become incomprehensible thanks to James Lindsay.
So when you say woke right to me, I say, stop insulting my friends.
And you go, oh, my God, you're friends with woke-right?
I say, I employ some of them.
And then in your mind, you're thinking Nick Fuentes.
In my mind, I'm thinking Mary Morgan.
jake pentland
Understood.
tim pool
James Lindsay did that.
He made it impossible for you to identify these people because initially, moderates were pointing out a group of people that were utilizing similar thought processes.
That is critical theory, the oppressed versus the oppressor, and the idea of Jewish supremacy.
Thanks to specifically, not Constantine, you know, trigonometry guys, because they've been repeatedly referring to them, but specifically James Lindsay, when you say that word, it is meaningless now.
unidentified
Okay.
jake pentland
So let's come over with a new word.
ian crossland
Well, I think woke, Jew hater.
roseanne barr
Woke is a Jew hater.
Because that is what it is.
And that is just a raw, that's what power does.
Well, I don't think power does when it's going to get exposed.
It throws Jews as raw meat to the hungry dogs in the street.
tim pool
I wouldn't say that.
roseanne barr
Because the Jews work.
I'm talking about, you know, the Jews who work in banking and all that shit.
Jews work for people who don't work.
That's what people do not get.
The middleman gets thrown and everybody blames the middleman.
Well, who's at the tippity top?
Why do we never go there?
Why do we never look at that?
tim pool
I tried.
ian crossland
It was who owns BlackRock.
I'm like, well, it's all the people that own State Street on BlackRock.
I'm like, who owns State Street?
All the people that own BlackRock.
And it's this like cycle of owners that keep their names off the table.
liv boeree
Maybe it's James Lindsay.
Maybe it's James Lindsay.
unidentified
Probably.
tim pool
Look what he published in direct response to my post: Get out of the podcastistan bubble.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
I do not believe that anybody who watches my show, where quite literally we had on Leonardo Joni, where I said I called her a retard.
I did apologize for calling her a retard.
jake pentland
She's a retard.
tim pool
Because she blames Israel for everything.
Why would James Lindsay accuse me of being woke right?
jake pentland
Yeah, you're not woke right.
tim pool
Because he is trying to make the term incomprehensible.
unidentified
Okay.
jake pentland
Well, I understand.
tim pool
He is trying to, because he is an infiltrator.
He is a liberal.
I believe that he hates Jews.
I believe that he, I believe he is just like the left.
He hates Israel.
He hates Trump.
And he wants social liberalism back.
He wants Pete Buttigieg to be president.
He wants Gavin Newsom.
He may not like them, you know, personally, but I tell you, this is a guy who would rather have Gavin Newsom than Donald Trump.
But he knows you will not win by going to someone and advocating for Newsome who's advocated for child sex changes.
So if you want sexual liberation feminism, let me put it like this.
The reason why this is really easy for me to point out is that when I did nonprofit fundraising, the first thing I would train as a manager and one of the best in the country, you always must approach the individual you're trying to sell as them.
jake pentland
Right.
tim pool
So if you are in downtown Chicago in the financial area and you see a guy wearing a suit and Ian walks up to him, that man's going to say, back the F off.
But if you walk up to him wearing a suit and immediately reach for his hand and shake and say, sir, but a moment of your time.
And you behave like a businessman, you can sell on anything.
ian crossland
You wouldn't say that to me, by the way.
You'd be like, get over here.
tim pool
No, that's actually not what I wouldn't say.
However, if you want to go to Columbia a few blocks away and sign up college kids, don't send a guy in a suit, send Ian with a cane and a top hat because every college kid's going to stop them.
James understands this.
This is social engineering 101.
In order to manipulate someone, you have to be them.
So he approaches conservatives and says, I'm just like you, feeds them disinformation, distorts their worldview, tricks them, and disrupts.
He did it to the left with the Marxists.
He's doing it to the conservatives now.
ian crossland
So I don't think woke right is Jew hate.
I think that people that are woke are easily manipulated into hating Jews.
jake pentland
I think it's the tool used.
unidentified
Yeah.
roseanne barr
It's people as a tool.
It's a tool of kings.
It's always been the tool of kings to retain power.
jake pentland
It's divide and conquer.
roseanne barr
That's why they're a scapegoat.
liv boeree
Woke in general, I think, is just people who are obsessed with identity as opposed to ideas.
And they also conflate the underdog with being morally correct.
unidentified
Right.
roseanne barr
That's right.
liv boeree
And I think you can see that on both sides.
The left obviously have been historically more doing it, and arguably still more, but it's just like, yeah, it's like identitarianism.
roseanne barr
I like identity, but I don't like when it's weaponized to hoard a whole bunch of people into voting for something that's going to destroy them.
ian crossland
I think That's right.
tim pool
So woke is actually woke is actually very easily defined when you step back.
Everybody's often had a different definition for it.
I've defined it as cult-like adherence to social orthodoxy.
I think there's a much easier way to explain it.
And woke represents the cultural identity of left.
There are two cultural identities in the United States, the multicultural democracy and the constitutional republic.
We represent the constitutional republic.
Woke represents the multicultural democracy.
They don't believe in the electoral college.
They don't believe in this country.
They believe the border should be open.
jake pentland
But when it benefits them, they believe it.
tim pool
And so when we look to the things that please them, their aesthetic or otherwise, we call it woke.
A good example of this I often cite is the Jaguar commercial, which was just postmodern art.
Nothing about it was trans.
It was just people dressed in weird clothes, but they called it woke, and the car brand failed.
Another example of this would be Concorde, the video game, where it's the biggest media flop in the history of mankind.
$400 million.
They made $0.
The characters were all woke aesthetic with pronouns.
Nobody wanted to buy it.
So this country has two countries within it.
One, I believe, is largely born from the internet.
So it's relatively, it's organized digitally, but disorganized physically.
And they can easily coalesce in cities for riots and things like this.
However, the bulk of this country is the Constitutional Republic.
And so when you say something like woke right, all you're doing is referring to a different cultural identity that is not the dominant Republican Party.
And it is not the left cultural identity.
Unfortunately, as I already stressed, that word has become incomprehensible as literally everybody is woke right now.
ian crossland
I see identitarianism on the left for sure with people being like, I'm part of the group.
And then on the right, when people are like, I'm a Catholic.
I'm like, well, what does that fucking mean?
What is your lifestyle?
What do you think about at night?
Like, what's your relationship like with your wife?
Like, what do you mean?
And so people, they're like, they hide behind the badge of religion on the right as their woke identity.
And it drives people like me away from the movement.
If you're not truly with God, like, don't.
tim pool
I don't find what you said to be comprehensible.
ian crossland
Well, like people that think they're part of the cult of the TV news on the left and people that think they're part of the cult of the church on the right are both equally woke.
Like if you don't have evidence to back up the data, you learned this through COVID.
Don't say it's real.
tim pool
I think I reject what you are saying because there's a big difference between the left deciding to sever the genitals of children and someone coming to a faith-based justification for their worldview.
So again, let me stress the difference here.
Someone says, I have witnessed things in my life that are hard to explain.
I have developed a personal relationship with God.
I'm going to have faith in the things that I find to be good, just, or otherwise.
And it is true that when you step outside of individuals, different people have different religions, and that is a challenge.
roseanne barr
But deciding to live your life based on faith, like spouting what religious leader tells you you're supposed to spout.
tim pool
Well, look, let me say it like this.
There is no grand philosophical question over cutting off a child's breasts, a prebubescent girl.
For someone who says, I have had deep contemplations about existence, spirituality, and I know it's hard to conclude, but I do believe, to the best of my understanding, that Christ is Lord, et cetera, et cetera.
That's very different from someone being like, I don't know anything about it, but we should sterilize children.
ian crossland
Yeah, faith, of course, the topics are different, but having, it's not having faith is the problem.
It's the identitarianism that some people have when they don't even have faith.
They'll say they do.
unidentified
They just say it.
liv boeree
They outsource their thinking to the group belief.
It's like low-rung thinkers.
You know what I mean?
They're not people who are thinking from first principles.
They're not people who are approaching things particularly rationally, or at least they just outsource their beliefs to what the current thing is of their in-group.
tim pool
I will say it like this.
Actually, I shouldn't say if.
When we brought on prominent liberal thought leaders to explain their position on gender, they had literally no answers and nothing made sense.
We have brought on numerous deeply religious people and theologians who have explained in great detail the structures of their worldview and why they believe what they do.
Michael Knowles being one of the greatest examples who can talk your ear through ad nauseum about his faith-based moral worldview and his belief structures.
So again, I will stress, we have brought on prominent liberal proselytizers of gender ideology and Marxism, and they cannot explain to you what they're talking about.
They can't even define the words.
Then we bring out a theologian and he explains his moral worldview around Christianity and the logos of the universe, his faith-based structure rooted in historical accounts of various religions and what they have wrought as a country, meaning life has been good under these things.
We have seen great success, developed our civilization, and there are historical accounts that I do agree with.
ian crossland
There's also woke scientists, people that are like, hey, if I can't measure it, then it doesn't exist.
End of story.
Bro, that's woke as fuck.
Just because you can't say it's not.
tim pool
And I think definitions matter.
ian crossland
To have faith in something that you don't have.
tim pool
Faith is not woke.
unidentified
It's a different thing.
ian crossland
It's believing that this is a scientific thing.
tim pool
I think you have a choice on your shoulder about religion.
ian crossland
It's the scientific method I'm talking about now.
tim pool
People have putting the word woke in where in the context of what we're discussing doesn't make sense.
liv boeree
Using woke synonymously with dogmatic.
I think that's what you mean.
ian crossland
In this situation, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
liv boeree
I mean, I think we just need to be careful not to overly expand it to basically all kinds of idiotic things.
ian crossland
No, when people believe the scientific method without, how can you?
Science vs Dogma and Logic 00:06:26
liv boeree
Right, that's dogma.
unidentified
Exactly.
liv boeree
So it's like a religiosity to that particular thing.
But I think we're expanding.
I think woke should stick tighter to, I agree, a sort of form of dogmatic thinking, but also more around identitarianism.
ian crossland
But let's say that it's not the identity of the scientific community.
unidentified
Yeah, no, I agree.
liv boeree
But that's dogma, but that's not woke.
tim pool
If you do not understand the explanation someone gives you when they give you a logical explanation, it does not mean they are wrong or dogmatic.
unidentified
Right.
ian crossland
Yeah, but when someone says, I can't measure it, therefore it does not exist.
tim pool
I'm going to pause again and say, there is a difference from woke, which we refer to on the left, where they say things like, a woman is an idea, which is a nonsense statement, and a theologian saying God is the logos of the universe, and my belief is rooted in historical account, the trust I have in others, the readings of scripture, the faith I have in the history of humanity, as well as the science as it relates to these things.
So again, if there's an individual who explains something to you that you don't understand, you can't just say it's dogma.
And what I'm telling you right now is what I'm saying very specifically is we have brought on individuals like Michael Knowles who has explained in great detail and with tremendous logic his worldview.
And if you did not understand that, that doesn't mean he's wrong.
ian crossland
Yeah, I didn't say he was wrong.
I said no mention something without evidence.
tim pool
That's not true.
You just don't know.
ian crossland
So are you defending Michael Knowles' worldview?
tim pool
Yes.
ian crossland
You believe it?
tim pool
I don't have to believe it to defend his logicism.
ian crossland
You don't necessarily believe what he was saying was true.
tim pool
Ian, Michael Knowles has evidence on his claim.
ian crossland
I'm not saying it, dude.
Of course there's evidence.
I mean, there's evidence.
It's real.
I'm talking about enough evidence bordering proof is what I want.
tim pool
So he said proof.
Proof is different.
And you can't grab it.
ian crossland
There's a swath of evidence.
We have enough swath of evidence.
And also I think gravity is magnetism.
I think there's more evidence.
tim pool
See, you don't actually know.
And this is the problem.
This is your dogma.
ian crossland
Maxwell's equation, if you want to do the math and watch it happen over and over again.
tim pool
Ian, I'm going to say this again.
Your understanding of these issues is blocked at like a certain level.
And because I think you lack the perspicacity to understand why your worldview is identical to Michael Knowles in terms of your own argument.
unidentified
Oh, geez.
ian crossland
I mean, what part of my worldview?
tim pool
You would never tell you.
You never actually did any of the experiments to prove that electrons exist, yet you are adamant they do.
Then you would criticize Michael Knowles for having faith and calling it dogma and saying it's woke.
I argue identically to you.
ian crossland
So you think science is woke also?
tim pool
Ian, when you get an electron microscope and track iron oxidization and hemoglobin, I will believe you're on.
ian crossland
I've got about like a thousand scientists that did it.
tim pool
Or about a thousand priests that did.
ian crossland
I don't have an electron microscope.
unidentified
Indeed.
tim pool
The point is you've never seen the proof of it, but you believe it is real.
ian crossland
I've read a lot of science.
So Michael Knowles read a lot about scientific proof, but call it that.
tim pool
I'm going to take a look at the majority of the people.
liv boeree
I think you're just taking one, but you won't.
roseanne barr
Tadoop is not in the same ballpark as theology at all.
tim pool
The point I am making is Ian has never investigated any of the claims he's made about graphene, but he believes them.
That's dogma.
liv boeree
I don't think that has to be dogma.
Like, you don't have to have physically done a test in order to, you know, there's a ton of stuff.
You believe the way a car engine works, but you, because, you know, that an engineer says it.
Like, it's okay to.
tim pool
And that is not my argument.
My argument is do not criticize a learned theologian that you don't understand when you yourself has not sought to understand your own worldview.
My point is, while I think it's fairly obvious considering the monitor before my eyes that LED screens and LCD screens exist and my cell phone transmits data and I've actually personally built remote control objects, I understand the components behind these things, so I believe them to be true, which means I will then infer largely that most of the engineering in science probably is true as well because I've actually experimented with it.
Then when I communicate with someone like perhaps Michael Knowles, a great example of this, who explains in great detail why he believes what he believes, and it is logically sound, but it doesn't have, there's no like microscope vision of what God or logic is.
The argument that he makes is that God is the logos of the universe.
The logic that dictates everything that we exist in is in fact God.
Ian, when you say, that's dogma.
unidentified
That's not logic.
tim pool
You call it logic.
ian crossland
It's not logic.
To say that God is logic, therefore that's a logical statement.
He has no proof or evidence of that, dude.
tim pool
I think you lack the comprehension to understand what I'm saying.
ian crossland
You just said he was making a logical conclusion that God is real based on a Christian faith.
That's logical.
You just said that was logical.
jake pentland
He's saying that.
tim pool
I don't think you have the comprehension to understand what I'm saying.
ian crossland
You just said that Michael Knowles is making a logical argument about the theology of God.
tim pool
Yes.
ian crossland
It's not a logical statement.
It's a faith-based statement without proof to point to.
tim pool
He's saying the word logic and God are interchangeable.
Okay, but that doesn't mean that your interpretation, your interpretation misconstrues what he is saying, and you have not sought to understand his point, so you've called him woke.
Or you've called it woke.
ian crossland
It's a way of thinking that I think of as a story.
tim pool
And I'm going to say one last time before we move to the SAVE Act.
I implore you, before deciding that something is true or not, you actually do the research.
roseanne barr
Can I say one thing on that?
unidentified
Okay.
roseanne barr
I could say, I believe I have $100 million in the bank.
tim pool
Do you?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
What about hard assets?
roseanne barr
No, but I mean, I could say I believe I could believe anything and say it gives me great comfort, and therefore I believe it, but that isn't the same as proven fact.
tim pool
There are many things in science and mathematics that we haven't proven, but we just know work for some reason.
Toxic Masculinity and Healthy Votes 00:02:49
roseanne barr
Well, we know the sun comes up every day.
jake pentland
Gravity, no one knows what that is.
carter banks
You're like, oh, yeah.
Yeah, the theory of evolution is also still a theory.
tim pool
Well, but that's a misunderstanding of what theory is.
roseanne barr
That's right, yeah.
jake pentland
Can I say something real quick?
Can we get back to the woke thing a little bit?
Well, we're going to go to the save act and say, I just want to say, I see the division as people that are over-emotional and people are logical, which this debate is proving.
To me, that's the dividing line.
Whatever Lindsay's talking about, woke right, Tucker, all this stuff.
When Gaza happened, it was like, oh, the children, the children, that was an emotional response for a lot of people.
And I think that's the division.
Some people are purely emotional and not logical, and other people are logical and not emotional.
And to me, that's the divide.
tim pool
So it's actually masculine things, which is why women overwhelmingly vote Democrat and men overwhelmingly vote Republican.
Because whether sensitivity is largely, well, there's a correlation between estrogen and testosterone, agreeableness.
jake pentland
So the woke right, Lindsay, whatever you want to call them, to me, that's a conservative branch of MAGA that is over-emotional and bitchy.
tim pool
I would just say less rational.
jake pentland
Okay, whatever.
unidentified
Whatever.
jake pentland
To me, right?
roseanne barr
They say girls.
jake pentland
They're girls.
No, they are girls.
Woke-right are girls in the conservative.
tim pool
I mean, I will say if Candace Owens audience is largely female.
That's why she has the Stanley mug, you know, on her.
That's why she talks about Blake Lively, is that her name?
unidentified
Yeah, she does gossip.
tim pool
It is a female gossip show.
unidentified
But I'm not just talking about geopolitics.
jake pentland
Emotional.
You're equating it to female, which I kind of agree, but I'm just talking emotional.
Men can be over-emotional, too.
tim pool
Indeed, but it's macro-level politics, so it is predominantly feminine.
unidentified
I think a lot of it is usually female.
jake pentland
It is emotional.
That's all I want to say.
ian crossland
Do you think that people that get too disagree?
liv boeree
No, I mean, women, on average, tend to be more agreeable.
Feel.
Yeah, they're definitely more agreeable.
They're more feel-based.
Women tend to think more about social cohesion.
Men tend to think more about and care from that perspective, which has arguments, by the way.
Like if there is no social cohesion, societies fall apart.
Men tend to focus more on abstract, linear things.
This equals that, therefore that.
unidentified
Indeed.
liv boeree
And really, we just need healthy aspects of both.
what is woke woke to me is actually toxic femininity what i think what what i think um What's his name?
James Lindsay, although I know we don't...
Okay, ignore him.
What the...
The bad side, and I'm not going to mention, not James, but the bad side of extreme conservatism is toxic masculinity.
tim pool
But I will stress that these are the best.
liv boeree
They have the toxic sides and both can have their healthy sides.
So the question is, how do we just get more of the health?
And what's healthy is a minimum.
tim pool
Glenn Greenwald is not a conservative, and Candace Owens is not a conservative.
liv boeree
No, I don't.
tim pool
So it's not a right-wing conservative.
liv boeree
Candace Owens is just a psychopath.
Eighty-One Million Biden Votes 00:11:17
roseanne barr
And neither is it.
He's not a conservative either.
tim pool
Well, I mean, you know, Tucker is a different beast in this regard, but I will stress, Dave Smith's a libertarian.
Glenn Greenwald is a lot.
He's a social liberal, or whatever you want to describe him as.
Candace Owens is whatever the clicks.
This is by her own statements.
She is whatever the audience tells her to be.
So these are not conservatives.
They're not right-wing individuals.
So again, woke right is a meaningless term.
liv boeree
Yeah, I'm actually convinced on that.
jake pentland
Can we come up with a new term today then while we're all here?
unidentified
The strangest act.
tim pool
Let's talk about the SAVE Act.
And this is actually interesting as well.
We've got this from the post-male.
Ladies and gentlemen, huge news.
The SAVE Act has advanced in the Senate 51 to 48, and this is tremendous.
It means they're going to waste our time for a week, won't get 60 votes, and then go, oh, geez, we tried.
Because once again, they're going to spin in our face.
I'm going to stress this.
The SAVE Act is one of the most popular pieces of legislation in our lifetimes, enjoying over 70% support among Democrats, 80 among Independents, and 90 among Republicans.
Yet for some reason, liberal pundits and Democratic politicians are pretending nobody wants it.
So Republicans, they could have nuked the filibuster and changed the rules, and this could have passed like that, but they're also playing dirty games and cutting backroom deals, and they're not going to pass a bill.
I think the real reason is because what we have is a populist uprising.
And the SAVE Act legitimately would correct a good portion of our elections.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
But the Rhino branch of the Republican Party and the Democrat Uniparty Alliance want to be able to manipulate elections in ways we can't tell so they can maintain power and this would disrupt that.
roseanne barr
Well, they just want, you know, grip from the donors to keep that going.
All it is is grift.
They don't represent the people that they supposedly represent.
In the least, it's all about who's going to give me what to influence what legislation I come up with.
They're just prostitutes.
They are in no way our governors in any way, our representatives nor our governors.
They all need to be caught up.
They do justice.
tim pool
Let me call up to the public.
I want to ask you this because I think I can get an interesting point out of you guys.
Do you think the, you refer to them as the F-TARDs, we call them the Israel posters, the Jew posters.
Do you think they should vote?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
I'm not saying whether they can vote.
I'm saying do you think they should?
Would you encourage them to go to a voting booth and vote?
roseanne barr
Oh, my God, it's terrifying, and I think that all the time.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, hold on.
I am not asking whether you think they should have their rights taken from them.
jake pentland
No.
tim pool
I am asking you, would you personally go to Tucker and say, don't forget to vote, I'll drive you to the poll?
But they should be able to.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
You wouldn't do that.
ian crossland
No.
tim pool
You wouldn't be able.
roseanne barr
But I know they're going to vote, probably.
tim pool
No, no, but this is not my point.
roseanne barr
What are you asking me?
Would I help them vote?
jake pentland
Would you encourage them?
tim pool
Would you encourage them to vote?
roseanne barr
No.
tim pool
But hold on.
That means there's a legitimate opinion of people in your country that's not being represented when you don't tell them to vote.
Well, of course, we're not going to advocate for people that we think are stupid to go and vote because it would be bad for the country.
So I say it like this.
roseanne barr
They should go back to the days where they used to have an IQ test before you can vote and everybody was all up in arms.
Okay, that was because people.
tim pool
But it wasn't an IQ.
roseanne barr
Whatever it was, it was culturally horrible because they had had all this other stuff about depriving people so they couldn't.
tim pool
Well, no, the questions were fair.
roseanne barr
But right now, there should be some kind of intelligence test.
If you are for the destruction of your own family's life, then you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
tim pool
So now let's go back to the SAVE Act.
Do you think?
roseanne barr
I don't agree.
jake pentland
No, I agree.
tim pool
Well, I'm asking you a question to get to the point of what you're saying.
So now think of, so George Carlin famously said, think about how stupid the average person is.
Now realize half of them are stupider than that.
I understand the Democratic Party.
I understand why Adam Schiff lies on TV.
I understand why he's lying in the media.
I understand why the MSNBC or MSNOW lied about me because they have decided the American people are too stupid, so they have to be told what to do and manipulated.
And the populist uprising is speaking genuinely to people.
The reason they don't want to pass the SAVE Act is because these people are going, are you nuts?
Do you have any idea what this country would look like if these retards actually voted?
So they don't want the American people to actually have the ability to vote.
Because in their minds, the way you feel about Tucker and Candace, they feel about everybody, or at least the majority.
So they want to have a system they can manipulate to make sure Candace Owens can't lead a grassroots uprising and get a politician in.
They don't want AOC getting elected times 10.
jake pentland
Also, they want to get elected.
tim pool
Well, I'm saying they want to get elected because they're smarter than you, and they know it.
jake pentland
Well, like when all this voter frustrates.
roseanne barr
I don't get that at all.
Lindsey Graham.
unidentified
I just want to say that.
tim pool
Okay, my point is this.
If everyone in this country, one day, if you woke up one day and Tucker Carlson was standing in D.C. and literally 70% of voters in the country were all screaming, talker, talker, and they're about to vote for him, would you, and you had the ability to press a button that would make it so that the votes wouldn't count.
Would you press the button?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's my point.
The Republicans and the Democrats are pressing that button to make sure these people are super delegates.
ian crossland
They get to do that too.
jake pentland
No, it's true.
And also, when we were getting in all the election fraud, the Biden's 81 million votes, a lot of the people that cheated, no one ever talked about it on our side, were Republicans.
Like Lindsey Graham, I believe, cheated.
So I just think this is for them to also stay in power.
It is a uniparty thing.
And we all were on election integrity and blah, blah, blah.
Our side cheats too.
unidentified
Yeah.
roseanne barr
The last thing that I'm going to do is that's to keep them all is election integrity.
The last thing any of the people who get voted for want is a way not to cheat so they can get rich.
jake pentland
And not because they're not because they want to stay in power.
tim pool
The reason they got the literacy tests were not actually literacy tests.
They were riddles meant to make it impossible for people to vote.
roseanne barr
No, I know.
It was racist and all that.
tim pool
Let me pull it up.
roseanne barr
But what about right now?
You just asked this question.
You just asked this question.
Do you crap where you eat?
And they go, yeah, I do it all the time.
Okay, well, you're unable to vote.
tim pool
So here's an example of a literacy test.
roseanne barr
That's it, right?
tim pool
And it's draw a line to the letter below that comes earliest in the alphabet.
Z-V-S-B-D-M-K-I-T-P-H-C.
And you're like, okay, draw a line through the two letters below that come last in the alphabet.
In the first circle below, write the last letter of the first word beginning with L.
roseanne barr
It's just to confuse people.
tim pool
There was on purpose.
Write the last letter of the first word beginning with L.
The first word where?
In this sentence?
Or the first word in this test?
What does first word refer to?
So here's the thing.
You could say, okay, the first word in the whole test that began with L, do what you were told to do in each statement, nothing more, nothing less.
Okay, so it's the first letter of the first word beginning with money.
With the last word, so it's S. Wait, it could be E. Wait, it could be T.
And they can decide to say, no, no.
It didn't say in this sentence.
It's at the first word up top.
And then if you go up top, they'll be like, what are you doing?
And the question was down there.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
They were intentionally designed to make it confusing so people couldn't vote.
roseanne barr
What do you think of this, though?
You ask everybody, do you crap where you write word the same place where you eat?
And then they go, yeah.
And then you go, well, you are unable to vote.
tim pool
Well, the question is, Liv, I have a question for you.
If you did not eat breakfast yesterday, how would you have felt?
liv boeree
If I did not eat, I would have felt hungry.
tim pool
Indeed, that's the correct answer.
There was a viral meme that said when they had psychologists go into prisons, they were doing evaluations on many of these murderers, and they found that many of these violent criminals could not comprehend conditional hypotheticals.
So they asked the question, if you did not eat breakfast yesterday, how would you have felt?
They would respond with, but I did eat breakfast.
liv boeree
Oh, geez.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
And they would say, yes.
But what if you did not eat breakfast?
They'd go, what are you talking about?
I had breakfast.
And they'd say, I'm asking you if.
you did not.
And they'd be like, this is insane.
I don't understand.
And they found low IQ people can't understand hypothesis.
liv boeree
They just go do abstract thought basically.
jake pentland
I know the question.
Do you believe Joe Biden got 81 million votes?
unidentified
Yes.
jake pentland
Yeah, if you say yes, you're out.
tim pool
No, you're wrong because he did.
jake pentland
No, but I mean 81 million legitimate votes.
So people actually clicked for Biden, 81 million votes.
roseanne barr
Living heelmans that were.
jake pentland
Not counted.
People are so fraudulent.
tim pool
So the first thing I would say is the mistake Republicans made.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
The mistake Republicans made was assuming that China was manufacturing ballots to steal the election when instead Democrats were mass printing ballots and then sending ballot harvesters to go collect them.
Then when it came to signature verification, they were very lax on the signatures.
And the reason why there were limited down ballot votes is because they'd go and knock on a door and say, just check for Joe Biden and then hand off the ballot.
And they were collecting them all.
And James O'Keefe caught them dropping off the ballots that they were collecting.
James O'Keefe filmed at a nursing home old people saying the Democrats come here and tell us all to check the box and hand them the ballot.
So then when they said they're all fraudulent, nobody could prove it because they were, well, it was COVID.
It was a different time and universal mail-in votes.
So when everyone's like, how did Joe Biden do so well and Kamal Harris didn't?
They didn't have COVID this time.
I told Steve Bannon this.
This guy I know is a skateboarder, dumb as a box of rocks, has no business being in politics at all, filmed himself dropping off a ballot to a mailbox, saying we all got to do our part.
And if you asked him what a Supreme Court justice was, he would assume it was a law.
These people voted.
Now, 2024 came around.
They did not have that advantage or opportunity.
So they did not get the same benefits.
jake pentland
So you're saying 81 million people actually clicked Joe Biden, 81 million separate people.
tim pool
Well, first I would say this, that if you believe literally 100% of the votes are legitimate, that's just not true.
But I would argue that the margin of error is substantially smaller than you actually think.
And they cheated through ballot harvesting, not through printing fake ballots.
They probably trashed Trump votes.
They misplaced boxes of Trump votes and they ballot harvested boxes of Biden votes.
roseanne barr
What about the whole Tina Peters thing?
She's still in prison for yeah, because Democrats are crooked.
ian crossland
What happened with that evil?
Building the Black Community Up 00:16:02
roseanne barr
Well, she took a picture of the way the machine was before they inspected it, and it was different before and after.
And then she got charged with being a traitor.
She was a gold star mother.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from The Blaze.
Former Biden staffer angrily rips into Democrat-controlled cities for spiraling into chaos.
Is this a joke?
I don't know if you guys saw the big story.
We've got this, we'll play it right here for you.
roseanne barr
Another team meetup turned mob has police calling on parents.
tim pool
It's not letting us full screen, so let's open it on YouTube.
unidentified
The incident involving violence, where thankfully nobody was seriously hurt.
Let's get to Stephanie Romero.
tim pool
She has more details from Navy Yard this morning.
unidentified
Steph.
ian crossland
Looks like I got a jerk.
stephanie ramirez
Hey, guys, this morning, and there has been an increased police presence here at Navy Yard all morning that we've been seeing.
It's still this incident, though, we can tell you there were laws changed this past summer trying to address what's been going on really since the pandemic.
Now, this is some of the video showing the chaos that happened this past weekend shared to social media.
D.C. police saying Saturday night may have included a 15-year-old firing a gun into the air, getting stopped by the National Guard, one child getting robbed of their shoes and a jacket, another person going to the hospital after being assaulted and robbed, and a 16-year-old taken into custody after Secret Service says they stopped a rideshare vehicle and saw the teen try to ditch a gun from that vehicle.
We're told groups of teens started to gather in the park near the Navy Yard Metro at around 6:30 Saturday night.
And then two hours later, the crowd had grown to around 200.
Two weekends ago, Navy Yard was one of the areas designated as a juvenile curfew zone, part of the newer law that limits the number of teens that can gather in a public space from 8 to 11 at night.
tim pool
Okay, we get it.
We get it.
So over the weekend, 200 largely black male and slightly less black females rampaged through the Navy Yard area as they do quite frequently and caused lots of damage.
Fights broke out.
There were several arrests, and one of the individuals fired a gun several times.
It may have been the same individual, but someone was caught trying to ditch a gun.
We've also had a shooting, or I believe there may have been shots fired in Daytona Beach.
Again, overwhelmingly young black males with some black females.
And I highlight that because this is the issue that we are dealing with right now.
The phenomenon we are seeing of raids on stores and these teen meetups are predominantly coming from the black community.
Now, of course, this is generating a ton of racism online where the response is overtly about race as opposed to the crime.
I would argue, whatever you think, how do we as a society solve for this problem when the laws don't change anything and the department store raids, the mall raids, and the teen meetups are always young black men?
roseanne barr
I think the Democrat should stop paying them to do that.
tim pool
They're paying them to do it.
liv boeree
They're not paying them to do it.
tim pool
The DAs are letting them go.
liv boeree
Right.
That's the thing.
roseanne barr
I think that there's money behind it, street gangs, and it's getting close.
And every time there's a real important thing going on, they have to throw in something news that can hide the news.
So, you know, all this stuff happens in blue cities because they want it to.
And they encourage the children to do it.
liv boeree
Why would they want it?
roseanne barr
Most of the adults.
liv boeree
Yeah, well, why would they want it in their own cities?
It makes no sense.
jake pentland
Fundraising.
Democratic fundraising.
tim pool
Well, they do let the DAs in the cities look at it.
jake pentland
Street gangs.
roseanne barr
They want to destroy, you know, every place where their safety and anything forward or good for black people.
They don't like black youth, especially the Democrats don't.
They're not easily controlled without cash.
And, you know, it's just the racism of the Democrat, you know, Candace said it, but it's plantation politics as usual.
ian crossland
Is it because the black community, I generally don't make generalizations, generally don't make generalizations about the black community, but that they're anti-war generally because of the way their culture.
The Black Panthers were a huge target of Nixon.
They were really anti-Asian.
I don't know that culture, like, because their ancestors were oppressed in slavery.
It's like you said.
tim pool
No, you're talking about a small group of people who are Marxist communists and then saying all black people are anti-war.
jake pentland
I know the solution.
ian crossland
Yeah, saying the black community is causing the crimes is an insane statement.
Like, what does that even mean?
The black community.
tim pool
Well, let me just say this again in case you missed it.
roseanne barr
Are being weaponized in America by the Democrats in blue cities?
Look at it.
jake pentland
I can fix this.
roseanne barr
What?
jake pentland
Criminalize abandoning your children.
tim pool
It already is criminal.
unidentified
It is?
jake pentland
Like, punishment?
How is that criminal?
tim pool
They arrest dads all the time who can't pay their support.
jake pentland
They're paying child support.
That's not abandoning your children.
unidentified
You can see that.
tim pool
So you're saying enforce fathers living with their children.
jake pentland
If you have a child, but you have a responsibility.
agree get rid of no-fault divorce then you're saying that women have to live if they're writing the parents should go to jail i agree with that well no i'm saying if you have a child you have a responsibility to take care of that child if you abandon that child you how does that how does that function legally like if there's a woman who says i can't live with this man he's abusive no i don't have the answer i'm just saying a lot it's very easy and i'm talking about i'll i'll you're not in trouble i will It's very easy for people to leave their children, especially fathers, especially fathers in that community.
It's way too easy because it happens all of the time.
tim pool
I understand, but to point out that we know this thing is happening, but we've tried to solve for it.
I don't think that's a good idea.
roseanne barr
I mean, I get it when there's kids in the street doing wrong.
But their parents should be arrested.
unidentified
100%.
jake pentland
Well, if they abandon them, not if they're bad parents.
roseanne barr
Well, if they're abandoning them to run wild in the street with guns, they should go to the middle.
liv boeree
I mean, it's mostly a lot of single moms that don't have much money or welfare.
Who knows?
unidentified
Who knows?
jake pentland
They make more money because I have two girls.
tim pool
But there's also a welfare incentive to intentionally not live with the father because they'll get more money from welfare.
unidentified
It's also extremely hard.
jake pentland
Like I said, it's too easy for them to leave.
liv boeree
That's to overcome gangsters and destroying.
If you're living in a poor urban area and gang culture is rife, it's very hard to make your kid, who is probably bigger than you at this point, stay home.
I do have an answer, though.
tim pool
But where's gang culture?
liv boeree
But that is usually an international.
tim pool
But give me an example because give me an example.
liv boeree
What?
Of a city?
tim pool
Well, the crime we see in Chicago, for instance, has nothing to do with gangs.
liv boeree
Isn't it?
tim pool
No.
jake pentland
What does it have to do with that?
tim pool
So typically the gangs sometimes war with each other and sometimes there's inter-gang violence.
But most of the shootings that you see are young black men honor killing each other.
So the easy way to explain it is they will go on social media and say, yo, girl, aho.
The other guy will pop to his house and unload on the rest.
It's not gang related.
It's beef related.
unidentified
Sure.
Okay.
liv boeree
Anyway, just throwing it out there, national service.
The demand mandatory national service for all teenagers of any race.
tim pool
Yes, basic training.
liv boeree
Age, 16, it forces you to, because a lot of this is a lesson.
It's a downstream of, like, there's just absolute void of basic.
roseanne barr
That's a good idea.
unidentified
I'd like to say that.
tim pool
Basic training?
liv boeree
A lot of longer.
unidentified
Six months.
liv boeree
Screw it.
Like, national service of like, it can be whether it's.
unidentified
Agreed.
liv boeree
It doesn't have to, you know, whether it's military or it's community service, but something where it's like actual strict.
A lot of these kids are just desperate for structure.
They have no structure.
They have no authority figures in their life who are at least reasonable, sane people, you know, and so they leave, you know, they're just in this like anarchic condition, which is probably what that thing was.
They're just all messaging each other.
Oh, yo, we're all going down here.
roseanne barr
Well, that kind of thing.
It is abandoned.
unidentified
It is.
liv boeree
They are fundamentally just abandoned people.
And they're young kids.
jake pentland
Which is criminal.
liv boeree
I think if I'd been involved in that, if I'd grown up in a completely life absent of any kind of discipline, I probably would have done the same.
I was kind of a naughty kid.
I was always causing trouble.
Who knows?
I just was lucky that I had very decent parents.
tim pool
Ram Emmanuel wanted everyone at 18 to graduate to go through, I think it was three weeks of basic training.
And at the time, because I think he was saying this when I was around that age, I was like, yeah, right.
You can't make me do that.
Now I'm older and I'm like, yep, they should make people do it.
liv boeree
You know, which country has national service?
And it's pretty.
Israel.
And they're pretty good at having a national identity and having a lot of societal cohesion.
roseanne barr
Well, teaching self-discipline is good, but in America, they should do it way before graduation.
It should be like, you know, onset puberty, teaching children to get control of their emotions and their body and have some self-discipline.
That would be a really good thing to do.
jake pentland
That's a dad's true.
roseanne barr
That is a dad's job, and that's a good idea.
We had a bonus army in World War II.
They could just resurrect that whole bonus army for kids.
ian crossland
What's that?
roseanne barr
And teach them a trade on top of it.
liv boeree
Yeah, exactly.
It can also get something as well.
A lot of these kids, they just don't feel valued.
And frankly, they're not that valuable if they're behaving like this.
But you give them some structure.
tim pool
I would say that at least where I grew up, the issue was just it's competition.
So for me and my friends, our competition was rooted in playing music and skateboarding.
For the kids who lived across the tracks or the other side of 47th, the competition was in social status.
So did you come up?
Meaning you got money, you got a gun, what do you got?
And so they're wearing jewelry and they're flaunting status amongst each other.
If they had some kind of legitimate nonviolent competition, that would probably do away with a lot of these things.
But so there's also something called swerving.
Do you know what swerving is?
jake pentland
No.
tim pool
They get on their bikes, they do wheelies, and they charge at people and then swerve real quickly right before they hit them, try not to crash while they film it.
Again, Ian asked the question, this is coming out.
Why would you say it's coming out of the black community?
Because all of the people doing it are black.
Now, you can deny that and say, no, no, you can't.
ian crossland
Probably not literally 100%, but I know what you mean.
tim pool
A crime majority or so there is a there was a point.
I think Michael Malice made this point.
He said, if you bring up an issue and then someone cites an anecdote, you know you're dealing with someone of low intelligence.
ian crossland
Well, what about people that use hyperbole?
Everyone all the time.
Like, what a stupid statement.
tim pool
That was the point that I think Michael was trying to make.
When I point out that we are watching large groups of black teenagers rampage through malls, through Chicago, through Magmile, in the D.C. Navy yard, in Daytona Beach, and some of them are Latino and white.
Obviously, there's always going to, nothing is literally absolute and everyone already understands that.
The point we're making is that the phenomenon of swerving and of teen takeovers are born predominantly from the black community.
Does it mean there are all black people around?
It means this is coming from that area.
roseanne barr
They're also born from TikTok and online media.
So, I mean, it's a way to get some fame in your 15 minutes, too.
tim pool
It's a trend that exists largely along, like swerving is almost entirely young black teenagers.
Like black teenagers, you don't see white people doing it for whatever reason.
And I think it's because in these areas, the people they follow, the music they listen to, the trends they have, this is a part of that culture that does not exist in other neighborhoods.
The videos they're putting out from the Navy Yard show young white men peacefully walking past National Guard while black men are screaming obscenities.
Again, I'm not saying all black people because that would not be correct, right?
We have tremendous leaders in this country.
Clarence Thomas is our best member of the Supreme Court, and we should clone him and fire all the rest of them.
But the issue is you are going to see this.
It is already online that you are seeing a massive increase in racism where accounts are pointing out that most of this violence and chaos is coming from young black men, and they're saying that they don't want to live near black people anymore.
roseanne barr
Well, I do think that my son was saying something kind of profound about abandoning a whole class and race of kids and not giving them any structure, not giving them anything to hope for.
I mean, that really is bad.
Something should replace that.
Something our country should do something to build up instead of just accept destruction.
tim pool
I would say this.
The penalty for these kinds of crimes should be three weeks of basic training.
roseanne barr
Some kind of like that.
tim pool
It's like you're convicted.
You're going to go to a camp for basic training.
roseanne barr
And I'm going to make a crawl to the menu.
You're not going to be drinking or smoking pot or doing anything.
You're going to learn to live in your body and have discipline.
tim pool
Maybe juvie should actually just be basic training camps.
Like if you get sentenced to six months, it's like, you know, wake up, crawl through the mud, climb the wall.
That's your day.
You're going to get ripped strong and disciplined.
liv boeree
And the sooner you learn to adhere to the rules, because I mean, that's the thing.
A lot of these kids have just never learned to have any rules at all.
The sooner you adhere to them and make some kind of progress.
And I don't have off the top of my head what that is.
roseanne barr
I don't know if they drink.
It's adhere.
It's not adhere.
It's like, it's not adhere or knuckle under.
It's desire to improve.
That's what they're not getting any of that.
They're being weaponized to, you know, they're, oh, it just is terrible.
liv boeree
Well, you need a carrot and a stick.
When someone is that sort of disenfranchised from society and that antisocial, effectively, you need stick.
You need some kind of punishment to an extent, which is to an, I guess, you've lost your liberty for a few months because you're put into this, you know, national service training camp, whatever you want to call it.
But you also need to have a carrot.
Like there need to be rewards where they actually feel like, oh, damn, I achieved something.
And they get some self-worth.
It is a combination.
I know this probably sounds like, you know, slightly woke sounding, but there is truth that you also need to reward someone when they have done good work.
roseanne barr
And I have a community to grow and get out of that.
Do something besides exploit them.
That's what's so horrible about the Democrats, the worst thing.
Oh, my God.
I have to go to the bathroom.
ian crossland
You can do like a stage show at the end of the three weeks of service where they get like a certificate and come up on stage, have like a graduation when they're 12.
You know, it's good for, like Roseanne was saying, for young kids before puberty, you kind of get the wiring.
jake pentland
What about more society?
tim pool
I mean, to be honest, we could just have our laws be enforced.
And instead of releasing these people and letting murderers go, we can just, you know, be alive, you commit a crime, go to jail.
jake pentland
Too simple.
liv boeree
The point is that institutions are just completely overtaxed and insufficiently, I mean, it's not that they're insufficiently funded.
They actually get a lot of funding.
Well, not all of them do, but the money is so horribly used.
And so, yeah, we just need new institutions.
And I wish I knew how to do that.
jake pentland
Why isn't there more pressure?
I'm going back to the dad thing.
Forget criminalizing.
But why isn't there more pressure on men to step up as fathers societally?
tim pool
The Democrats historically have always been racist.
And if you look at everything they've been doing since Jim Crow, it has just made things worse for black people in the United States.
So creating a welfare system where the mothers will get more money for their kids if the father is not present is literally resulting in women being like, you can't live here because I'll lose my money.
unidentified
Right.
jake pentland
So it's coordinated to weaken that community.
unidentified
Yeah.
Okay.
tim pool
So that incentives.
jake pentland
But you can solve it by being a person.
Good fathers collectively could help a lot alleviate a lot of these problems.
unidentified
No?
Asylum Seekers and White Trash 00:05:39
jake pentland
Maybe I'm being too much.
liv boeree
Yes, but you have to not only get the fathers to stay, but you also have to make the fathers good in the first place.
And if you've got like this multi-generational problem where it's like young guys who have not had good fathers, so they've never had that good influence.
They've never learned how to be responsible men.
Then having kids, it's just like you're seeing multi-downstream effects of that.
It's compounding over generations.
jake pentland
Because military does provide that.
tim pool
I also think we need to get rid of all these unconstitutional gun laws.
Because I saw a video out of New York where it was like five black teenagers who robbed a bodega with guns pointed at some dude's face who's just like got his hands up.
And I'm like, why do we just punish the victims?
That's all the Democrats do in these cities.
The innocent guy who was running a business who has no intention of robbing anybody can't have a gun.
And the criminals who don't care about breaking the law are going to do it anyway.
So then you watch, there are videos where, you know, in Brazil, someone will come into a store to rob it, and then seven people just start unloading on them.
And don't do that.
Then in the United States, people just get mercilessly beaten and everything taken from them by these criminals.
And that story from New York where it was like a 19-year-old woman was exiting the train to go to her dorm, and a group of like 12 and 13-year-old black kids stabbed her to death to steal her stuff.
liv boeree
Most people don't realize excessive mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent.
That's what they don't get.
tim pool
We call it anarcho-tyranny.
unidentified
Yes.
liv boeree
And you think it's bad in the U.S.?
You should go check out the UK right now.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
Where I'm from.
roseanne barr
It's hell on earth.
tim pool
You don't have a country anymore.
What did you call them?
Invading barbarians?
liv boeree
Oh, today, yeah.
tim pool
She was referring specifically to rapists.
liv boeree
The headline was, it was like a Daily Mail headline, and it was like a group of asylum seekers arrested for gang raping a woman and filming it.
And my point, my comment was something to the effect of like, at what point do we stop calling men like these asylum seekers and start calling them what they really are, which is an invading barbarian horde?
Because yeah, it's, I grew up, when I grew up in the UK, I was able to just walk the streets late, whatever time, as a young girl.
And I was, I mean, okay, I'm not saying that crime never happened.
Of course it did, but the rates at which crime is happening has never been seen before.
And I hate to say it, but it is disproportionately, like massively caused by James Lindsey.
No, no, no.
tim pool
Let me pull this story up so I can give people some context.
We've got this from the Daily Mail.
Asylum seekers gang raped vulnerable women on beach as she made her way, made her way home from night out with one filming the ordeal, trial told.
And this has been going on quite some time in the UK.
And you, of course, are from the UK and you had some choice words.
These individuals are not asylum seekers.
They are coming in and committing atrocities against innocent civilians.
And so you refer to them as invaders.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Well, yes, the women, of course.
But if you go to, I mean, you're likely to be arrested for that tweet if you go back to the UK.
liv boeree
I don't know.
They haven't arrested me yet.
I've been back a few times.
I've said spicier stuff than that.
tim pool
They arrested Graham.
liv boeree
Right, right, right.
I mean, that was crazy.
Translated stuff.
I mean, listen, they can try.
roseanne barr
You know, Tommy Robinson just put part one and two on YouTube, the rape of Britain, parts one and two.
You know, they did it on purpose.
The leaders did it on purpose.
They wanted to rape the women back into their place.
So it could all be Iran everywhere.
I'm so happy we're bombing the hell out of that place.
I wish.
liv boeree
I think generally my rule of thumb is don't attribute to malice what can be attributed first to incompetence.
And by and large, the grooming gang rape crisis was more a product, obviously it was malice of the gang rapers.
And it was definitely malice of some police who would hear about it and just like usher the problem away because nothing is lower on the totem pole than poor white trash British girls.
I hate the word white trash, but like that's the opinion of them.
So there was a lot of people.
tim pool
Is there a word for that in the UK?
roseanne barr
Okay, so it wasn't the royals or the government or anything that made the laws that we were going to bring in all these people from other countries who thought rape was okay.
It wasn't their fault.
liv boeree
Oh, no, no, no, it wasn't.
No, it wasn't.
No, no, it was the government's fault for allowing this kind of But I think we need to be careful not to completely oversubscribe it to intentional malice and not give where I think most of the blame lies, which is that people became so scared, and this is relating to wokeness, so scared of being accused of being racist that they would rather sweep under the rug an obvious, horrific,
very much race-related crime of mostly, I mean, various countries, but Pakistani immigrant gangs grooming little low-income white girls, children on mass scales.
And people were so scared to admit it because it was more of a heinous moral ill to be accused of being racist than to let this mass rape go on.
Draft Signups and King's Baron 00:06:00
tim pool
Are you saying we should repeal that?
roseanne barr
It was an attack on the British citizenry.
tim pool
Repeal the 19th?
unidentified
No.
No.
tim pool
It means take away women's ability to vote.
unidentified
Right.
liv boeree
Oh, I don't think it's.
No, I don't think it's like that's a joke.
tim pool
I think what we should do is my argument is if you want to vote, you have to sign up for the draft.
Men and women are allowed to do it, and you can't vote unless you do.
roseanne barr
I agree with that.
ian crossland
You're talking about automatically signing everyone up for the draft.
liv boeree
That's a very different thing.
I do think that's a very different thing to drafting people into a war that may or may not be justified versus making people do six months of, when you say draft, what do you mean?
jake pentland
I'm saying declare before you.
tim pool
So every 18-year-old male in the United States has to sign up for the selective service so that they could be called into a draft in time of need.
liv boeree
Right, in case of a war, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, we've not done it in 50 years, longer than that now.
What are we going on?
Yeah, we're going on 50-some odd years.
jake pentland
Vietnam, right?
tim pool
So my argument is, not that there is an active war going on.
You must, at 18-year-old, 18 years old, make yourself available for conscription if you want to vote.
And you can opt not to.
liv boeree
You can say, I say you can opt out.
tim pool
Well, so technically you're opting in.
The default state is you just don't sign up for the draft.
liv boeree
Got it, got it.
tim pool
But then you don't vote.
roseanne barr
I like it.
liv boeree
It's like signing up to be an organ donor.
You don't get to be on the list or high up on the list of organ donors unless you yourself put yourself on the list.
I think we need reciprocity, basically.
Yeah, it makes sense.
tim pool
And then if you did that, liberals would stop voting.
roseanne barr
That's exactly right.
unidentified
I think a lot of people stop voting.
tim pool
Mostly liberals.
You go to Times Square and you ask the average urban lib who's a tourist or who lives there and say, would you like to vote this election?
They'll go, yeah, sure, I guess.
You got to sign up for the draft.
Hell no.
You go to a conservative, they'll be like, yes, sir.
They'll be like, I already signed up.
I served four years.
And you go, oh.
They'll be like, I'll go back if they need me.
And you're like, oh, that's not like that.
That's going to be most conservatives.
Or they're going to be, if you're going to go to a 17-year-old kid and be like, if you want to vote, you got to sign for the draft.
I'm like, I was planning on enlisting anyway.
And you're like, oh.
Or kids are going to be like, I'm going to ROTC.
I'm going to be in.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
roseanne barr
Could you see that happening with the awful's as Malice calls it?
tim pool
They will never vote again.
roseanne barr
No, I know.
You go up and down.
I'm not going to be able to do that.
You know what?
You have such a great opinion on the women of Iran, how they should live like slaves and be shot to the head if their hair shows.
tim pool
Well, they shouldn't show their hair.
roseanne barr
No, but I'm saying, yeah.
jake pentland
I mean, awful.
roseanne barr
Offals.
Affluent white liberals.
jake pentland
Feminists.
roseanne barr
Feminists.
tim pool
Affluent white female urban liberal.
roseanne barr
Yeah, that's what Michael calls it.
Offensive calls it.
But I mean, could you see going to them and saying, since you've made yourself a, you know, voice of all womanhood, you know, and some women do have penises, yes, and men can have babies and all that.
You're a voice of that.
So as a voice with responsibilities, you need to sign up for the draft.
jake pentland
Love it.
unidentified
Yes.
roseanne barr
Don't you love that?
unidentified
Yep.
jake pentland
Brilliant.
ian crossland
This is saying that.
tim pool
And I think because the issue is we don't actually, we haven't drafted in 50 years.
And here's the point.
I get a lot of people said, yeah, but then you're, they'll sign up.
I'm like, no, no, no, you don't understand.
The people who sign up for, go to your average enlisted soldier or combat infantry or whatever.
They're going to tell you, we do not want war.
I've seen it.
You don't want it.
Those are the people who vote.
And they're going to be like, no.
And then if you sign up for the draft and then you're going to vote for a politician who's like, I want war, you'll be like, hell no, I'm in the draft line.
I'm not voting for that.
You will get a strongly anti-war government only when it truly needs it and the people truly agree.
And the people who are unwilling to put themselves in the line for their country don't get a say.
They get all their rights.
They get free speech.
They get two-way.
They get three, four, five, six.
Nobody's going to, no soldier's going to go live in your house.
roseanne barr
Okay, but wait.
tim pool
But no vote.
roseanne barr
Wait, Because the people who do vote must have available to them a free press which publishes actual facts or there's no vote.
There should be no voting.
If it's all propaganda and corporate horseshit, then nobody should vote.
Well, which is why nobody should count anyway.
unidentified
King Trump.
roseanne barr
Huh?
tim pool
King Trump.
roseanne barr
I mean.
tim pool
What if Trump was like, I've signed an executive order making Baron the heir to the throne of the United States?
He's now king.
jake pentland
Not bad.
tim pool
Would you be okay with it?
roseanne barr
No, I would not.
And I'll tell you why.
I want Rubio.
tim pool
No, no.
He makes Rubio like the vizier.
roseanne barr
Like Mordecai.
tim pool
Yeah, Baron's the king, but Rubio whispers in his ear.
roseanne barr
I don't know if Baron said, I'm supposedly very genius.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I know people who know him, and I've never met him, but I've heard that he's like, he knows everything.
He grew up around all this stuff.
He's tracked all this stuff.
He's read about it.
And I've heard he's incredibly smart.
ian crossland
I wonder regarding the game.
roseanne barr
Wow, so that's like that book that's called Baron something.
He is that.
tim pool
He's also eight feet tall and could single-handedly take down Iran just by himself.
This is kind of rampaging through throwing people.
ian crossland
They're looking at installing an automatic draft.
They want selective service moving towards automatic registration for eligible males 18 to 26 through the 2026 NDAA.
They got signed specifically Section 535.
roseanne barr
Didn't Obama sign that?
unidentified
What?
ian crossland
This has just happened in 2026.
They call him a pass in 2026 that you'll automatically be signed up for the draft through technology like Palantir through databases.
jake pentland
Just Palantir.
tim pool
It's automatic through the DMV.
Robots Rampage in San Francisco 00:08:56
ian crossland
It's supposed to be, but you could always not do it.
jake pentland
Is this mask?
carter banks
I didn't have that opportunity.
roseanne barr
Is it women too or just men?
tim pool
Just men.
unidentified
I don't know.
roseanne barr
I think it's women too.
tim pool
No, this is funny.
The Democrat, female Democrats are trying to get women forced for the draft.
And then all of a sudden, TikTok and Instagram blew up with young men being like, feminism means what?
I'm out.
I don't want any of this.
That's why I'm saying if you sign up for the draft, then you can vote because then women don't vote.
ian crossland
Dude, the war in Iraq was so egregious.
tim pool
Hey, women can vote if they want to.
You just got to sign up.
ian crossland
Afghanistan, Iraq was so egregious that if that draft, I would have fled the country if they tried to send me off to that meat crime too.
liv boeree
The other thing, though, is it's all probably going to be moot anyway because the future of warfare is drones.
It's going to be so rare that we're going to have actual physical bodies going to war zones.
tim pool
Did you see that?
Did you see that robot?
I think it was in San Francisco that was supposed to be serving food, but then it threw the food and started dancing instead.
liv boeree
Sounds about right.
tim pool
And then like, yes, the server tried to stop it, but it was just dancing and like thrashing about.
It was like, I don't want to serve.
liv boeree
I want to dance.
tim pool
We're going to make robot soldiers and they're going to start dancing on the battlefield.
And then we're going to go to the bottom of the water.
Real quick, just think about how crazy it is.
The idea that like in the future, we're going to say like we're declaring war in Iran and we deploy like 10,000 Optimus bots running through the streets and then Iran deploys 10,000 Optimus bots and then both the fat Ayatollah watching soccer and the fat President of the States watching football are sitting there clicking the button while robots just punch each other?
ian crossland
Was detained by police in China?
tim pool
No, it wasn't China.
ian crossland
It was in Macau, China.
I believe it was a 70-year-old woman on a public street.
unidentified
Oh, right.
ian crossland
So March 13th around 4 days.
They detained the robot.
unidentified
Yeah.
roseanne barr
It went wrong.
unidentified
I don't know what that is.
roseanne barr
When they go rogue, people are going to be able to do it.
jake pentland
Don't you say Daily Mail is evolving?
Because they actually said vulnerable.
unidentified
Vulnerable.
jake pentland
Which is pretty.
roseanne barr
That is good for them.
jake pentland
10 years ago, it wouldn't have had that in there.
So let's take a moment.
ian crossland
When do you think they're going to make the first robot arrest?
jake pentland
Well, it sounds like they did.
ian crossland
Well, they just detained him.
But it's China, so they could do whatever they want with him, I guess.
tim pool
So this is the video of the dancing robot.
unidentified
Is it?
For real?
Oh, it's worth a jam.
tim pool
Bro, it's gonna get crazy.
liv boeree
That brave put an army.
That's scary.
So crush your fingers.
tim pool
And look how it's smiling with its fake robot smile.
Have you guys ever seen that episode of Doctor Who where they go to a planet, there's a bunch of robots with smiley faces on them?
unidentified
Uh-uh.
tim pool
Doctor Who used to be so good.
They go to this planet or this timeline.
I don't know how it works in the TARDIS.
And there's a bunch of robots with smiley faces and there's no humans.
And then they find a bunch of skeletons.
And it turns out that the robots were designed to keep people happy.
It was a colony of humans.
They were colonizing a planet.
They were growing vegetables and stuff and trying to live.
And the robots were programmed to always keep the humans happy until one of the older females of the colony died of old age.
And the humans got sad when they saw this woman die.
And the robots, try as they might, could not make the person happy anymore.
And then the robots discovered something terrifying.
If an unhappy person came into contact with a happy person, the happy person became unhappy because they learned about the death.
So the robots viewed it as a contagion.
And then the only way to stop the spread was to kill the people that were unhappy and spreading it around, which of course created more unhappiness and created a feedback loop.
So then the doctor and assistant walk around with big, fake smiles the whole time because if you get unhappy, they kill you.
liv boeree
That's exactly the kind of misalignment that can happen.
Like it's one of the things that's happening.
roseanne barr
Many, many happened if you're in California.
I mean, that's California to me.
It's happening.
tim pool
Well, California, San Francisco has a poo department, so there's a lot of misalignment in California.
You know about the poo department in San Francisco?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You got a police department, you got a fire department, a poo department.
There is so much human feces in San Francisco that they've created a specific department to go and clean up human feces.
liv boeree
We need the poo robots.
jake pentland
Mom, I got to jump.
tim pool
Yes, they don't have robots full of riding around everywhere.
Have you seen the video of the homeless lady sitting on the delivery bot kicking it?
And then they knock it over and just destroy it.
The homeless people are just bashing it.
liv boeree
I mean, people are doing that to Wayne Buamos.
People are doing that to Waymos all the time, right?
tim pool
You know, have you guys ever seen that movie with Justin Timberlake where time is currency and they have like poorly executed?
But in the movie.
liv boeree
It's ridiculous Pocusine ever.
tim pool
I know, exactly right.
What did he have, like eight four offsuit or something?
liv boeree
It was just painful.
tim pool
And then he wins.
Well, I guess the point was that he was playing dumb.
But in the movie, time is currency.
If your time runs out, you die.
Everyone stops aging at 28.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
And when you work, they scan your wrist and give you time.
And then most people have like two or three days left.
So you have to keep working, otherwise you die.
He saves a rich guy who then gives him like a thousand years or something.
So now he's rich.
And then in order to go to the wealthy areas, you have to have, you have to give like five days or something to go to the wealthy area.
So if you have it, you can go.
And then when he gets there, they're like, how did you get here?
This is usually not possible.
We look at that like nightmare dystopia.
That's literally how New York and San Fran operate.
It costs like, what was it, like 15 bucks now to get into New York City through the tunnels and through the bridges, the tolls?
San Francisco is the same way.
Entering the city costs money.
Leaving is free because they want to keep poor people out.
So if you don't have the money, you can't drive in.
To keep the riffraff out, they are going to make this crazier and crazier.
I wouldn't be surprised if in like 20 years, entering New York costs like $300.
And then everything's clean.
roseanne barr
You think it's going to be clean or is it just going to be a have you ever gone skiing?
Crap hole with dead bodies laying in.
tim pool
No, you ever go skiing?
unidentified
Yes.
No.
tim pool
Have you noticed that people lay thousands of dollars in ski gear just wherever they want and then walk off?
jake pentland
What do you mean lay?
tim pool
So when you go to a ski resort.
roseanne barr
No, he's saying lay out thousands.
liv boeree
It's a very high trust society.
tim pool
When you go to a ski, you go to any mountain, even in even in West Virginia for like a cheaper ticket.
You take off your $1,000 ski gear and poles or snowboard, you prop it up on a fence and you walk inside to have dinner.
And there's probably 50 grand worth of ski equipment on that one rack and no one thinks twice.
It's just normal.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
When it costs a lot of money to get there, people aren't really worried about theft.
ian crossland
If you got like drone surveillance, like Larry Ellison wants to have, or David Ellison, really, total surveillance so that you don't have deviation from the order.
Manhattan Island's a great place to like test that out.
You got the northern area.
tim pool
What is that?
The Bronx.
ian crossland
That's a land bridge.
So you'd have to have patrols up there like a border to prevent, but you just have a few bridges.
tim pool
There's still water separating.
ian crossland
No, Manhattan's connected to the north through it goes up into the Bronx.
roseanne barr
Where will they put all the homeless and the crazy people and the poor people in vats where they can vibrate and create electrical charge?
ian crossland
I don't know.
Underground, maybe they'll show you.
tim pool
Show them across the street.
jake pentland
No, California.
tim pool
Manhattan is an island.
It is not connected to there's no ranks.
There's no land bridge to the Bronx.
jake pentland
No, not to the Bronx, but there is to Long Island, right?
There's a bridge and then there's a landlord.
tim pool
No, but my point is he said there's a land bridge to this.
unidentified
It's like a finger.
liv boeree
No, it is in Chain Island.
tim pool
Yeah, Manhattan's island.
Not technically, literally in the land.
ian crossland
Is it like a river that protects people?
carter banks
Well, yeah, between Brooklyn and Manhattan, there's part of the area.
tim pool
Manhattan is an island on all sides surrounded by water and you need a bridge to get off of it or a tunnel.
jake pentland
I didn't realize there was water to the north.
unidentified
Yes.
liv boeree
It's a thin street.
tim pool
That's why it's called Manhattan Island.
jake pentland
No, no, no.
unidentified
White plains.
ian crossland
I'm talking about white planes.
roseanne barr
Is New York in Manhattan?
ian crossland
There's a river that cuts across.
jake pentland
Are we saying it's bad to keep the poor people out?
unidentified
I'm just going to use.
jake pentland
Like, is this bad dystopian?
unidentified
I don't know.
roseanne barr
They're saying, are you saying it's all going to be the 15-minute cities thing?
unidentified
Kind of interesting.
roseanne barr
Is that what you're saying?
unidentified
No, no, no.
tim pool
I'm saying that.
One scenario I'm envisioning is that in the future, they just a toll to get into New York, which there already is one, but they make it exorbitant.
And then less people go there.
It's less dense.
There's still wealth.
It's a lot cleaner because there's very few people.
And they don't say anything about restricting the poor.
They just say, well, a tunnel costs money.
liv boeree
It's extreme gentrification.
unidentified
Yeah.
roseanne barr
Well, what about Mom Dami?
He's not going to let none of that go by.
He just wants dead poor people all over the streets.
jake pentland
I'm not so sure.
Socialists love the caste system.
roseanne barr
Well, I mean, again, they do love the caste system.
tim pool
No group, no political group has killed more communists than communists.
Trump Card Games and Debates 00:08:16
roseanne barr
I know.
tim pool
Well, we're going to go to your Rumble Rants and Super Chat.
So smash that like button, share the show with everyone in your life that you can do.
roseanne barr
I want to kill a robot.
tim pool
All you can tell live.
unidentified
We have the game.
tim pool
No, no, no.
We're going to Rumble Ransom Super Chats because we are over time.
And then at 10, we'll go to the uncensored portion where we can talk about those things.
So smash that like button, share the show, and all that good stuff.
roseanne barr
I got it.
tim pool
We got Mythos 671.
It says, sounds like Joe is a sissy Kent.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
R. Sargent says, can we get the English lady for the morning show?
Perhaps, but in what capacity do you mean?
Like to interview with Tate?
unidentified
What?
liv boeree
I don't.
tim pool
They want you to appear on the morning show.
liv boeree
Andrew Tate?
tim pool
No, no, no, no.
Tate Brown.
He's the host of the noon show.
Andrew Tate?
liv boeree
I do not like Andrew Tate.
ian crossland
Have you talked to him before?
liv boeree
I've never met him, but he is.
He's just another Canis Owens to me.
He just says anything.
He doesn't give a shit about truth from unless it furthers his own self.
He just strikes me as an extraordinarily selfish person who is not interested in seeking truth.
He just wants to be famous.
roseanne barr
Well, that hair.
liv boeree
I've never met him.
That's all I'm seeing of how he presents on social media.
roseanne barr
Well, that's ugly shaped data here.
unidentified
Right.
liv boeree
It's a shitty brand.
Get a better brand.
tim pool
I mean, he makes a lot of money.
So it's a brand that works for a business.
liv boeree
Yeah, but that doesn't making money.
Like, yeah, so does a fentanyl dealer.
They make a bunch of money.
No, you know, there's tons of people.
roseanne barr
Don't you think his head looks like a football?
Like Stewie?
tim pool
I don't know.
jake pentland
Oh, more of a light bulb.
unidentified
Sideways.
tim pool
More of a light bulb.
All right, here we go.
Seven Legion Suits as storms this weekend nearly blew my tree onto my neighbor's property, so it had to be cut down, which cost my entire paycheck with bills to pay.
Givesendgo.com slash tree of Damocles.
ian crossland
I'll tell you, man, people.
tim pool
Bro, this wind was crazy.
ian crossland
Even on humans world, but nature, you want to talk about what we really need to protect ourselves from?
roseanne barr
Yeah, no kidding.
ian crossland
Nature and non-human animals.
liv boeree
Oh, disappear.
tim pool
HS Disturb says, so happy to see my second mom back on Timcast.
Bet you don't realize how many kids you helped raise.
Love you, Roseanne.
roseanne barr
No, I do.
I hear it all the time, and I love you right back.
Thank you.
tim pool
All right.
Let's see.
Emitae says, keeping up the tradition.
Had my third and final baby yesterday and managed to catch the noon show just in time.
Keep up the word.
Good work, guys.
Wow.
Congratulations.
More babies.
roseanne barr
Congratulations.
tim pool
Mythos says his name isn't Tucker Carlson.
It's Tucker Katarlson.
jake pentland
Takia Katarlson.
tim pool
We're launching a card game called Debate Me.
You're going to love it.
All the different cards are different political personalities.
The base set are generic personalities.
Like you have a Karen is like a level five establishment.
So there are four factions, left, right, center, and establishment.
There are 13 levels of debate prowess.
The 13th level we call prime because it can be, it can lead from the bottom.
So you can make a goal is everybody gets two cards.
That's your starting debate panel.
Everybody starts with 200 followers.
And then if you look down at your two cards, the onlybody see what he has.
If it's a good debate team, you say, I'm going to invite 50 of my followers to the debate.
Then I look at my cards.
And if I think my debate team is strong, I'll say, I will invite 50 of my followers to the debate.
Then we run out three cards to make a debate panel.
And whoever makes the best five-person debate team wins all the followers.
It's a collectible card game.
Therefore, it's legal in all jurisdictions to play.
liv boeree
I like it.
tim pool
So the question is, we actually do have this.
And the reason I bring this up is that Tucker in the game, it's Tucker Katarlson because they're all parodies of individuals.
And so the base set is one through 11.
Is it one through 11?
Or is it?
No, I'm sorry.
It's one through nine, I think.
Yeah, one through nine are just generic gags.
Like we have racist and racist on the left and the right, but they're just racist.
You know, like the Democrats are the real racist and the right-winger is the racist.
But then once you get to the higher levels, then they're specific personalities.
And then we have the ability set, which are, for instance, the level one right-winger is bankrupt Alex Jones.
And it says he's sitting down on the street corner holding a sign saying, we'll call frogs gay for money.
And the card says, this card may be played as any faction of any level.
Effectively, Deuce is Wild.
And so we have different functions of the special card so you can customize your game.
Thus, it is a collectible card game, which, to my legal understanding, going through my lawyers, means it's not, in fact, poker.
And it's carved out, an exemption is carved out for collectible card games where children, children are allowed to wager money to play card games for cash money.
And I asked, why are children allowed to gamble?
And they said it's not gambling.
It's a collectible card game.
And I said, if a child puts $20 down for a game of Pokemon to win $40 in cash prizes, that's not gambling.
And they owe no.
And I said, okay.
So we have a game coming out soon called Debate Me, where if you're lucky, you will get a golden foil one of 10 God Emperor Trump card.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Indeed.
We're going to have special limited edition cards.
jake pentland
Add the points.
It's a point system or how do you determine the best?
tim pool
So the strongest debater wins.
So first, your best debate team is who has the strongest debater.
So if I have Trump on my team, he's prime.
He's the highest level possible.
That means I beat you.
Then, beyond that is pairs.
So if I have two level three debaters that beats your one prime debater, then of course there's three, you know, a trio, we'll call it.
unidentified
Gotcha.
tim pool
And then, of course, you have a sequence.
Then you have when we're all the same faction, we call that a brigade.
unidentified
Oh, right.
Yes.
And then there's a quartet.
jake pentland
Debater card.
liv boeree
So there's no three and two.
tim pool
Oh, yes, yes.
unidentified
Yes.
liv boeree
Yeah, I don't want to call that word, you know, the phrase.
tim pool
We call that one a full panel.
liv boeree
A full panel, right?
tim pool
And then, of course, we have the Royal Flush.
unidentified
Okay.
liv boeree
It doesn't happen, so it's not going to, yeah, it's too rough.
tim pool
But the game is real.
unidentified
We actually.
liv boeree
So it's like a matchup between poker and top trumps, kind of.
tim pool
And what?
liv boeree
Top Trumps?
tim pool
Top Trumps?
liv boeree
You know that?
It's like game, you know that game?
unidentified
What?
liv boeree
No one knows Top Trumps?
unidentified
No.
liv boeree
It's just like a kind of like a collectible game, and you just like, it's like a face-off.
You know, you can do Pokemon.
tim pool
So let me just clarify the common cards that we made that are largely just gags on the Culture War.
It's literally just a poker set.
Like, it's playing cards.
There's four factions.
There's 52 cards.
There's 13 of each.
And they're gags.
And you shuffle it up and you can play and you can play any card game you can play.
However, the game actually does include rare versions, limited edition, special abilities.
So the God Emperor Trump card, the way it works is it says, if it is your turn, or I'm sorry, it says at showdown, you may choose to play this.
You may choose to play this card as if it was a pair of prime debaters and disregard your second card or disregard any other card.
Meaning that Trump himself is pocket aces, but you don't have to play him that way.
You can choose.
Now, here's the question.
We talked about balance in the game when we were designing it.
Doesn't matter because it's a shared deck game.
You can put a card in the deck that literally says you win the hand because you'll shuffle it up and everyone has an equal chance to get it if you choose to play that way.
If you want to play Deuce is Wild, everybody has an opportunity to get it.
There's four factions.
So each of them has their willing to say or do anything card.
And if you want to play with that, you can.
Or you can make the deck basic and it plays basically like a poker deck.
And you can play any game you want.
jake pentland
Is there a Candace card?
tim pool
Yes.
Yeah.
I think she, her function has something to do with confusing the stats of your cards or something.
We were contemplating making it so that she can change.
She's like a reverse wild.
roseanne barr
Oh, that's a good thing.
tim pool
But the problem, like, basically, you can make someone else's card a card of any.
But the problem is that basically says you win.
Right.
Because if they have a straight, you can go, nope, now you have nine high.
It's like, oh.
liv boeree
She's like an agent of chaos.
Human Beings, Sin, and Israel 00:05:20
tim pool
So we decided not to do that.
But we do have a Nancy Pelosi card.
And what she does is she makes everybody shuffle up their cards and then so everybody's hands get shuffled together and re-dealt out because she's drunk.
So it's like, oh, and I got to get so confused.
And then we have the, it's funny because there's no queens, kings, or whatever.
They're just called like 10, 11, 12, and then 13 or prime, it's called.
But our queen equivalent on the right is named Queen of the Right.
And it's Milianapolis.
unidentified
Love it.
tim pool
Yeah.
roseanne barr
That's cute.
unidentified
That's hilarious.
tim pool
Let's get more of your chat.
roseanne barr
Is he not gay anymore?
tim pool
He's ex-gay.
jake pentland
He's not gay.
tim pool
Meaning he is still attracted to men, but he doesn't act upon it because it is a sin.
ian crossland
We were talking a lot about just like sexual, what do you call it, like lust and how that's kind of that sin can creep in.
And he said in the gay community, there's a lot of that.
tim pool
We got to grab some more of these.
We got Omega Rosetsu.
He says, Tim, I am black.
The reason black fathers are not in the home is not the problem with men.
It is the welfare state in women.
I don't have kids, but I'd be damned if a woman would keep me from mine.
jake pentland
Okay.
tim pool
Indeed.
Okay, what do we got here?
Hat and beard says, let's go, fellow patriots.
Tim, can I get a shout out over here on Rumble?
The Hat and Beard Show brings you based NFL content live daily, Monday through Friday, 10 a.m. on Rumble.
Here, here.
Check them out.
jake pentland
All right.
tim pool
Forced name change says, I'm going to join the dog pile on Ian over faith versus knowledge.
He knows exactly what you're saying, and he knows you're right.
He just doesn't want to say it on air.
Love you, Ian.
One on your dogma take.
ian crossland
But you didn't say anything except you're wrong, and you used like 20 words to do it.
tim pool
No, but I'll say this.
So in order to make it comprehensible for you, my point is you didn't comprehend what I said.
ian crossland
That's not true.
unidentified
It is.
ian crossland
I disbelieve that.
I think you said that Michael Knowles was making a logical argument, and then you said he was saying that God is Logos.
tim pool
Did you guys understand my point?
jake pentland
I did, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
jake pentland
But I also understand Ian's.
tim pool
No, no, no.
But Ian doesn't understand my point.
jake pentland
Do you understand his point?
unidentified
He doesn't.
jake pentland
No.
ian crossland
Oh, God, he made like 90 points today.
unidentified
Which one?
liv boeree
Oh, God, not against me.
tim pool
There are two human beings.
There are two human beings.
liv boeree
Oh, no.
tim pool
They both believe two different things.
Neither of them have ever actually looked into it.
They both accuse each other of being wrong.
roseanne barr
Then they're Jewish.
tim pool
Aristocrats.
And they're also Jewish.
ian crossland
Now it makes sense.
tim pool
The point is, everybody thinks they're right.
Most people haven't bothered to actually investigate what they think is true.
roseanne barr
That's true.
tim pool
So that's it.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Anyway, let's grab a couple more before we go to the uncensored portion of the show, of course.
All right.
Let's see.
Mako says, you guys are idiots.
Incentivize petty criminals.
I don't know what that means.
unidentified
Okay.
All right.
roseanne barr
Thank you.
jake pentland
We'll take it into consideration.
tim pool
Indeed.
ian crossland
Is that AI?
unidentified
Let's see.
That was a bottom.
tim pool
Marushia Dark says, Tim, your decentralized AI jobs program is the plot of the movie Eagle Eye.
The U.S. government likely has already as military tech is 25 years out of the public, according to the late William Cooper.
My point was that.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
So there's already the clawed rent a human where it's like if an AI needs a task done in meat space, they will, you can say, I'm a person, I'll work for this much.
My point was that there's going to be an app where the AI will be, let's say the AI is building a car.
It is substantially faster to decentralize all of the work of that car.
Actually, let's go McDonald's times 10.
McDonald's revolutionized food because you had a bunch of people doing one simple thing instead of one person trying to do all of these things.
It is easier to teach 10 people each to do an individual task than one person to do 10 individual tasks well.
The AI is going to amplify that by a thousand.
So instead of getting one guy who knows how to design a car, it's going to get 10,000 people to all design one tiny piece or to construct one tiny piece.
They won't know exactly what they're making because they can't see the big picture.
That was my point.
All right.
Based Buzz says millennial men can't find jobs to provide for their family.
Women are killing their own children, and everybody is afraid to go out in public because of all of these attacks.
This war is for Israel.
Donald Trump has been trying to get a handle on oil prices, and he's trying to get Saudi Arabia back on the petro dollar.
The contract ended.
Certainly, Israel is a motivator and pressured us to kick this war off because that's what Rubio said.
That's all true.
But the reason the U.S. wants to be involved is because Trump is desperately trying to get Saudi Arabia to stop selling oil in yuan to China and other countries.
And so Saudi Arabia says, we want guarantees and we hate Iran.
And Trump says, I will do whatever you say.
Just do the petrodollar deal again.
This is why you had that journalist get killed and the U.S. doesn't care.
This is why you've got a handful of Saudis implicated in 9-11.
And the U.S. government protected them for decades.
And they're only now being sued.
So by all, like I said for a million times, we shouldn't.
I don't think we should be funding Israel.
I don't think that's their business if they want to be involved in it.
I don't want to get involved in wars for any country, be it Ukraine, be it China, Taiwan, whatever it may be.
But the people who are claiming the only reason is Israel are allowing the military-industrial complex to get away with whatever they want because they're no longer part of the argument.
Roseanne Barr and Timcast IRL 00:05:12
tim pool
We're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show.
roseanne barr
I don't know what you mean by funding Israel and $2.5 billion a year in military subsidies.
Yeah, because then they turn around and buy American-made weapons.
tim pool
And we can certainly switch that labor for those manufacturers into roads, bridges, border security, et cetera.
The money is still spent on that.
roseanne barr
You're getting attacked on seven fronts by all of your genocidal.
tim pool
That's Israel, not us.
roseanne barr
No, I'm saying them.
tim pool
Yeah.
roseanne barr
So they have to have a lot of weapons.
unidentified
Of course.
tim pool
So I think that's their business.
And I'd rather spend $2.5 billion on border security.
But let's go to rumble.com slash Timcast IR.
roseanne barr
I don't agree with that at all, but I mean, don't you, I mean, I just feel like if America does that, it's going to be bad for America.
And I'll explain when we come back.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
Roseanne's Mossad Handler.
Do you want to shout anything out?
roseanne barr
No, but I got to smoke.
jake pentland
I got to put it out of the way so she can smoke, apparently.
tim pool
Roseanne's going to go smoke real quick.
Everybody already knows who she is.
You know where to find her.
She's Roseanne.
Everyone's going to miss you.
Liv, do you want to shout anything out?
liv boeree
Yeah, follow me on Twitter.
My name, Liv Undiscoberry, and subscribe to me on YouTube.
Also, just my name.
Find it.
ian crossland
Jake, what's the best place people to find you, man?
jake pentland
I guess Twitter, I hate social media.
I'm sorry.
I don't want to give it away.
I gave my Twitter because my wife made me, but I fucking, I'm sorry.
carter banks
I tweeted it.
It's an out there.
unidentified
Thank you.
liv boeree
You're like an enlightened being.
jake pentland
I wouldn't say I'm enlightened.
I've been trolling and arguing on the internet for 20 years.
I was kicked off Twitter, probably the first person to ever cancel on Twitter.
I just realized it's really a dark place now.
It's an algorithm.
It's mind control.
It's evil.
It's not what I thought it was.
I was so excited about social media and now I hate it.
ian crossland
Reduce text, increase video.
If you're going to produce, do it with video so that your voice can vibrate and change people's emotions.
Otherwise, you're just stuck etching writings on a wall like 2,000 years ago.
So get back to making video, man.
It's amazing tech.
jake pentland
Or just raise your kids and be happy.
ian crossland
Such a good dad.
jake pentland
I love Mike.
I love being a dad.
ian crossland
Ladies and gentlemen, follow me at Ian Crossland, all over the internet.
Go to graphing.movie.
Check out the new documentary that I am building right now with 6'7 Kevin Andreas Nicholas, graphene.movie.
And I am at Ian Crossland, Carter Banks.
carter banks
What's up, everyone?
Follow me at Carter Banks Everywhere.
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And check out me and Ian's live sessions at Trash House Records on YouTube.
Let's go.
ian crossland
Hey, for Roseanne Barr, follow me, The Real Roseanne.
jake pentland
And the podcast, Roseanne Barr podcast.
I would love to shout that out.
tim pool
Indeed.
We'll see you all over at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds.
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Peace, guys.
Bye, Liv.
tim pool
So you have Bearded Viking.
jake pentland
I'll try it.
tim pool
Man brand.
jake pentland
So for uncensored, we can trash in the joint.
You dropped your cane.
Can we swear?
tim pool
Yeah, now you can say all of the naughty words that you'd like.
jake pentland
And the hardy are.
tim pool
Like cunt.
jake pentland
Cunt icon.
tim pool
Cunt.
ian crossland
God, religion, the Jews, magnetism.
tim pool
I'll pass it over.
unidentified
Oh, cool shit.
tim pool
Liv's leaving.
ian crossland
Bye, Liv.
unidentified
Hi.
tim pool
Do you want to come around?
I don't know.
unidentified
Bye, guys.
Thank you.
carter banks
Thank you for coming.
ian crossland
Liv Boree.
tim pool
Everybody's insane.
Front Page Ads and Conspiracy Views 00:15:14
tim pool
The world's falling apart.
AI content is flooding social media and independent media businesses are collapsing.
And the big networks are going to start buying up shows and choosing the winners and the losers.
jake pentland
When you were saying you didn't trust YouTube, you're talking about.
tim pool
The numbers.
So like the concurrent viewership has always been a weird number.
When we first started the show, there was a discrepancy between the total views it claimed we had and the views displayed on the video.
And what I was told is that live viewers didn't count as VOD viewers.
So what that meant was we would go live for two hours.
It would say you had 600,000 viewers.
Then we would look at the analytics for the video itself and it would say zero.
And then a line would burst.
And then over the next couple of hours, we'd get a couple hundred thousand views.
And it would say the episode had like 350.
And so what we were told, what I was told, is that live viewership is separate from VOD viewership.
So we had about a million views on that episode.
And we were like, oh, this is during COVID, by the way.
So viewership was presumably much larger.
Then at some point, they announced that they changed it and the number is synchronized.
And now they're saying it's one number.
It's like, okay.
And then our views changed.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And we were still getting like 350K.
So I was like, that's clearly not true.
So like, for instance, when we wrap the YouTube portion of the show, we can see how many total views we got, how much money in super chats we got.
Super chats are the same.
Views are the same.
Viewer duration is the same.
Concurrent viewership is lower, which makes literally no sense.
unidentified
No sense.
tim pool
If concurrent viewership is lower, then you're going to have to have a lower amount of views or you're going to have to have a lower average watch time.
But it stays the same.
So shenanigans.
jake pentland
That's how we feel.
We actually gained like, I want to say 250,000 subscriptions at the same time we lost about 180,000 views.
tim pool
I wonder if it's always been fake.
I wonder if YouTube.
So here's what we know.
We know that for the longest time on Facebook and X, the government had direct access to the systems to control what people could see.
I wonder if the numbers for all shows have always just been chosen.
jake pentland
I think so.
tim pool
Like behind the scenes, YouTube says, promote the video to this amount of people.
And I'll give you an example of why I feel that way.
When we started this show, we saw a meteoric rise in subscriber growth and it stopped at 1.4 million subscribers.
Despite new viewers, tens of millions of views and all of that, we were rapidly getting subs and they just turned off.
As if the machine said, this channel shall have 1.4 million subscribers and no more.
Then when I said I'm going to start doing marketing for the show, the Google ads blocked the marketing and won't let us run the commercials, calling them election ads, which is very strange.
When I finally complained after like two weeks, they relented, allowing the ad to run, and the episodes we featured in the ad got deleted for bullshit reasons, which is also very strange.
I will also add that many people have accused Rumble numbers of being fake, but we can see the analytics and we can compare it to the numbers that we've gotten on YouTube and the numbers all remain constant, meaning we see marginal growth.
Before on YouTube, we track our growth.
When we split to Rumble, the growth is identical between the two platforms, indicating that there is a natural trend of slow growth.
And whether or not Rumble or YouTube, we see this comparable growth.
However, Rumble has questioned, or I shouldn't say Rumble questioned, but we look at other shows that get massive viewership, which doesn't track with the podcast industry.
And again, it looks fake.
So I have a couple of theories.
And one theory is that if you were in the CIA, if you were Mossad or MI6, and you saw this burgeoning anti-Israel, anti-Jew sentiment growing on 4chan and other social media, how would you get rid of it?
Well, I just looked at what Alex Jones said back in the 2000s, problem, reaction, solution.
So you create the issue, you then generate a reaction and then provide that solution.
So in other words, you got to ban Alex Jones and Nick Fuentes.
Alex Jones is anti-warrant establishment.
Nick Fuentes is anti-Israel.
If you don't want them, you got to get rid of them.
You can't control them.
Then you need someone you can control.
Along comes Simpool Spider.
unidentified
Not me.
ian crossland
Ian Crosslam.
tim pool
A prominent personality who all of a sudden is being featured on the front page of YouTube while screaming the Jews.
This converts Nick Fuentes' audience into a new area.
That individual is the Pied Piper who will lead those people away and then start preaching about why, you know, follow them instead.
YouTube props them up to make sure they capture as many of these people of this political persuasion as possible.
Then you either whack the head off, shutting the channel down or banning them, or if they're in on it, you have them shift, slowly shift the conversation away from those topics.
So instead of talking about Israel, they talk about something like, I don't know, Erica Kirk's leather pants.
They launch a new series about Erica Kirk instead of Israel.
And now all of a sudden, tons of prominent personalities who were once Israel critics are just screeching about Erica Kirk, who has nothing to do with geopolitics and couldn't if you wanted her to.
Complain about Erica Kirk will not change whether there's a war or not.
And this is exactly what we are seeing happening.
So again, I'm not saying it's definitively true that it's an operation, but it's exactly what I would do if I was working for an intel agency and they said to me, we want support for the military-industrial complex and support for War with Iran.
I'd be like, okay, well, first of all, you got to get rid of the voices you can't control.
Can you pay off Nick Fuentes?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Okay, well, then you got to ban him.
Okay, but if we ban him, people are going to lose their mind.
unidentified
I know.
tim pool
But then you prop up another voice who you can control to say these things.
Then, after a month, have them slowly start incorporating other content, promote that content, which is nonsensical, conspiratorial, and shift those viewers in that direction.
And by promoting it and getting massive viewership, other weak-minded and weak-willed individuals will follow and produce similar content.
And then you will capture that audience and convert them into retards.
ian crossland
I'm thinking about it.
roseanne barr
Well, that's what they did.
tim pool
It seems like that's what they're doing.
jake pentland
She's married to a person in the royal family.
This person, you're doing it.
tim pool
Her lawyers work in the same building as feds by her own admission.
unidentified
Seems like.
tim pool
So I don't know if she's an op or an accident or otherwise.
ian crossland
I wonder about the aspect of the conspiracy theory that the Jews want to be seen as the victims, that they'll prop up people like to like shit talk them to make them be like, hey, now we have no choice but to ban anti-Semitism because we're on our heels again.
And I'm not saying they're doing it, but like, wow, what a great fucking tactic that would be if you were a military commander.
tim pool
I'm just going to say to the people in the chat who are like, real quick, they're saying like, we are the controlled opposition.
I just have one question.
Why is Nick Fuentes banned from YouTube?
We have him on the show.
And Candace Owens is on the front page of YouTube.
roseanne barr
Yeah, really.
tim pool
Why is that Nick Fuentes, who is just some scrawny white dude from the suburbs of Chicago, who lives in, he lives in a house and records out of his basement, he's banned.
Candace Owens, who's married to a British lord whose lawyers work in a building with federal agents, is on the front page of YouTube.
If you are not smart enough to question that, well, then maybe you shouldn't, I guess.
I don't know.
Believe whatever you want.
roseanne barr
Well, every revolution has a negotiator and a bomber.
Okay, so I'm looking, okay, who's the bomber?
It's Kanye.
And both of those guys are the negotiators for the bombs that Kanye drops.
ian crossland
Erica and...
roseanne barr
No, Candace and Nick.
ian crossland
I don't know why I said Erica.
I was thinking about it.
roseanne barr
They both hang out with him, too.
tim pool
There are a handful of prominent personalities that we've known.
They're not super big.
They're like medium-sized channels.
And they were anti-war channels.
And now they just, all they do is talk about Erica Kirk.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I've explained the SIOP and YouTube got rid of this function.
It used to be that anyone could go on Google Ads and run an advertisement on any channel they wanted on any video, any specific video.
So we famously and hilariously ran a commercial on Sam Cedar's channel where it was us talking.
Then I stopped and I went, are you actually watching this guy's channel?
This guy's full of it.
You should come watch my channel instead.
And we spent like 10 grand doing this.
It was hilarious.
So here's what you do.
You can't do it anymore because YouTube locked it.
Now you have to synchronize your account with the brand if you want to run ads.
But back in the day, and this is only a couple years ago, you go to someone's channel and there was one guy who was a fitness influencer.
I'm not going to drag this guy.
Now he's an Israel poster.
He had a channel with a couple hundred thousand subs where he did fitness videos, jogging, running, health, wellness.
And then after October 7th, he made a video saying like, I got a lot of comments from people asking me to comment on it, but it's not really my space.
You know, I just want to say that my heart goes out to all of my fans and everybody.
From that video, he got like 10 times the viewership he normally does.
He'd get 10, 20,000.
Now he got 200,000.
So, what does he think?
Well, holy shit, when I talk about Israel, I make a lot of, I get a lot of views.
I made a lot of money on that one.
jake pentland
No, we talked about this on our podcast.
tim pool
He gets a lot of comments, and then he goes, I should make another one of these.
The comments then start saying things like, I don't know, this story seems weird.
You should take a look at what Netanyahu said.
And then he starts reading the commenters and he thinks, well, these people are actually critical of Israel.
Maybe I should look into this.
The channel is now nothing but Israel and Jew posting and Erica Kirk stuff.
A guy who was a fitness influencer.
And so I'm not saying this is what happened.
It may just be that people wanted to watch those videos and they did.
But there is a very easy psyop in that you go on Fiverr and you say, I want 50,000 views on this specific video.
And then you go on Google Ads and you run 5,000,000 ads.
And that person will make $3,500 on that video.
And they'll look at it and go, Holy shit.
And they go to their wife, honey, I just made three grand off this one video.
And she goes, oh my God, this is life-changing money.
And then he's like, we were doing like $7,000 a month.
This one video is half our month.
So he does it three more times.
And all of a sudden, he's like, oh, my God, we're going to be millionaires.
We're going to be rich.
And now he's on a channel going, the fucking Jews these fucking months.
And he's getting probably a million dollars to do it.
unidentified
100%.
That's what it is.
jake pentland
It's an algorithm.
unidentified
Yeah, it is.
Absolutely.
roseanne barr
It's a mind-control program.
tim pool
So I'm not saying I know for sure exactly why, but I'd argue that the idea that the Jews want everyone to hate them is just a cop-out.
Why would Candace Owens be on the front page?
Well, because the Jews want to be hated.
Well, no, maybe because they're trying to destroy the anti-Israel sentiment.
That's the real argument.
roseanne barr
That is it.
tim pool
If prominent Jews were in control, they'd use Candace Owens as a pied piper to lure these people into Kirkland.
So instead of talking about Israel, they're talking about leather pants.
jake pentland
Did you ever Jews aren't in control?
tim pool
You know, I got to tell you this, agreed because Larry Elson just bought CBS.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And everyone's like, the Jews control the media.
I'm like, yeah, Hollywood, right?
But they don't control the political commentary space.
If they did, there would not be anti-Israel sentiment.
Because they want to be hated.
jake pentland
The pro-Israel talk was there at the Oscars.
tim pool
It's all anti-Israel.
jake pentland
100%.
tim pool
Do you have that woman go like, we need to cease fire in Palestine?
And it's like, yeah, that was six months ago.
jake pentland
What about the women of Iran?
No one mentioned Iran at the Oscars.
tim pool
What about the gay people being thrown off buildings in Iran?
jake pentland
I would say maybe here's a crazy unpopular thing.
Maybe the Jews don't actually run the media or social media.
tim pool
It is just some people who are Jewish.
And there are a lot of them for a variety of reasons, notably that they established Hollywood for a variety of reasons.
jake pentland
Or maybe there's another group that's super powerful in a religious culture.
Here's what it is in a religious cult that cross faith and cross all sorts of demographics that are really truly in control.
And they hate the Jews and they hate God.
tim pool
Let's go to our callers here.
We got Confusionable.
jake pentland
Satanists run the media.
unidentified
Interesting.
tim pool
Confusionable.
What's going on?
jake pentland
Hey, man, that's what it is.
roseanne barr
Well, all right.
tim pool
We're going to come back to Confusionable.
The Kanye wants to go.
We're going to Sir Jackoff.
Sir Jackoff, what's going on?
jake pentland
I don't think that's his real name.
unidentified
Hey, guys.
Thanks for having me on.
ian crossland
What's up, Sir Jackoff?
unidentified
I just have a little silly, goofy question about keeping the American empire alive.
If, assuming we can't stop, fully stop at least the corporations from using slave labor and sweatshops in China, could we potentially just invest in South America and kind of go down the Monroe Doctrine to have better control and influence just for the menu?
tim pool
Just use sweatshops down there instead.
I would love it if we just had total dominance over the West over North and South America.
And like, I'm not saying like militarily, I'm saying we just, we had a trade network.
We had political, like substantial political influence more so, and Brazil wasn't part of BRICS instead of being involved in the Middle East.
ian crossland
I like it, but I would prefer to see robots doing the slave work.
I don't want to set up more sweatshops.
And, you know, if enough, we don't have to.
tim pool
Yeah, those people don't deserve jobs.
They should starve to death.
roseanne barr
I think that Trump taking down the city of London is the end of slavery, and a whole new golden age is going to be born that has nothing to do with that very specific pyramid of fiefdom royalty.
Something new and better is going to come, I think, this year.
tim pool
I think that prominent donors that support the military-industrial complex and the liberal economic order, some of whom are Jewish, but not all of them, are going to start buying up the media space.
And a lot of this anti-Israel stuff is going to get completely crushed.
I think it's going to be used as a Pied Piper to basically destroy the populist movement.
AI is going to create a massive amount of static noise on YouTube, making it impossible for independent personalities to make channels.
And then the big networks are going to buy up shows, and the front page is going to be all of the chosen podcasts.
Netflix is already doing it, and so are other platforms.
Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy Kimmel and Fallon are out, and they are going to replace those kinds of shows with prominent podcasts where they have authentic conversations from personalities that they believe are going to be authentic, appearing, and intelligent.
And the Israel posting stuff will be relegated to social media channels where individuals won't be able to start channels because of too much AI content.
Thus, they will create, once again, the narrative machine like we had in the past, where opinion only came from five channels.
ian crossland
I would prefer that it was done on the table, but we need to build decentralized mesh networking and social media networking because to resist whatever's the overmind.
I'd love to do it on the table with them in plain sight so that we know we're not giving up our gun rights, property rights, free speech is sticking around.
But I have a feeling that there's going to be at least a period where a lot of that stuff has to happen underground.
Good Jews, Bad Jews, and Excommunication 00:02:23
roseanne barr
Well, here's what I think about the Jews: there's good Jews and there's bad Jews, like there is everything else.
And a lot of Jews are commies, and that's bad.
That isn't even being a Jew because being a Jewish person who practices Judaism, that's about individual growth.
So communism is antithetical to Judaism.
So, you know, when they say the Jews, when you see everybody working on the Oscars, and you know, most of them are Jews, writers, producers, and they're all pro-Palestine.
Those are, those are not, I mean, that's what people have to realize: that there is more than one kind of a Jew and more than one kind of Jewish opinion.
But I know that my kind of Jew with my kind of Jewish opinion, I got fired by Jews who are all leftist.
And, you know, I don't like leftist liberal Jews.
And I would like to personally, what do you call it?
jake pentland
Excommunicate.
roseanne barr
Yeah, they need to be excommunicated from the body of Judaism.
They cause all the problems towards Jews in the world.
I don't like them, and I don't like them self-appointing themselves as spokespeople for the Jews like me because you ain't, you never was, and you never will be.
Sit down, shut up.
jake pentland
Woke Jews.
Woke right Jews.
roseanne barr
Whatever they are that don't even understand that you don't shit where you eat.
My God.
How stupid can you be to go around on that on that, What do you call it?
Rat coil, like those hamsters, the hamster wheel.
Yeah, I mean, the left doesn't even have, yeah, they don't even have a way out of their bullshit.
It's just a complete wheel that turns and turns and turns and does nothing but siphon off the wealth of uh you know people who create it.
It is so horrible.
And so, anyway, that's my two cents.
So, fuck you Oscars and fuck all the Jews working on the Oscars.
Fuck your Palestine and fuck all your other shit, too.
You're going to hell.
Animal Control and Wealth Siphoning 00:03:32
tim pool
Do you want to add anything or shout anything out, brother?
Naturally, uh, when we ask about imperialism in South America, we're going to go talk about the Jews.
roseanne barr
Oh, I thought we were joining you.
I'm sorry.
I thought you laughed.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I'm so sorry.
Excuse me.
I thought we were.
tim pool
Well, it's because of the oil operations in the Middle East, right?
I'm saying Venezuela is better than Iran.
And so, of course, Israel is going to be in that story.
But you want to shout anything out, brother?
Yeah, I'd actually like to shout out the show The Chosen.
I don't know how many of y'all would watch it, but Ian at least might be able to pick up a few pieces.
He's clearly missing when thinking about Christianity.
But episode or sorry, season two, there's an episode called Matthew 4:24.
And I don't know why that really resonated with me and made me really think about just all the bickering and fighting and in the MAGA movement.
unidentified
And I don't know.
Y'all should go check it out.
roseanne barr
You should be liking slavery, especially that's coming up on Passover.
And you said you're a Christian.
Think about leaving slavery, especially slavery of the mind, and not thinking about being an American imperialist who uses cheap labor in South America.
That would be great.
God bless you.
I didn't know you were still on, or I would have said that.
tim pool
Thanks, thanks for calling in, brother.
carter banks
Thanks, man.
tim pool
Yeah, we've got Stocks Family Farm.
Welcome to the show.
unidentified
Thank you.
Good evening, everybody.
How are you?
ian crossland
I'm doing excellent.
Sitting on this meal.
unidentified
So I just want to talk about a bill that is being passed.
I'm a farmer here in Oregon.
And they got a bill that they're trying to pass called IP28, or it's the Peace Act.
And everybody loves peace, but it's the people for the Elimination of Animal Cruelty Exemption.
And what that's going to do is it's going to ban hunting.
It's going to ban fishing.
If you kill your livestock before their natural life, it's felony animal torture.
If you collect eggs from your chickens, it is sexual exploitation of an animal.
roseanne barr
Oh my God.
ian crossland
Keep going.
tim pool
I will burn this motherfucker to the ride.
unidentified
What else?
ian crossland
After the chickens, what more?
unidentified
Yeah.
So, so, but it, I mean, it's basically any type of animal husbandry.
Like, I got pigs, I got chickens, I got geese.
ian crossland
I slaughter my own animals.
unidentified
And am I supposed to be a criminal or am I supposed to move?
And also, is this just an incremental step in their plan to like starve out independent food production?
Or do you see it as the beginning of an outright ban that may spread nationwide to stop people from farming their own food?
And am I supposed to be a criminal?
Because I promise you, I promise you, I'm going to kill animals.
And I'm going to eat them.
tim pool
I'm going to get like a duster and I'm going to walk to your neighborhood and look around and then open it up.
There's going to be eggs on the inside on my life.
We got light blue.
We got fresh brown, all organic.
roseanne barr
Yeah, I think it is incremental.
It's part of the whole commie creep up, you know, and you know, because they want us to have nothing to eat, but dogs like what they did in Venezuela.
Patriot Prayers and Kuwait Wars 00:04:12
roseanne barr
They like that.
carter banks
Well, they want to control the means of production of all that stuff.
ian crossland
That seems so extreme.
carter banks
Well, I know that's kind of what they do.
ian crossland
Chicken.
roseanne barr
They always starve millions and millions of people with their intelligent philosophies that are just bullshit.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
Is this like an ethical thing, or are they saying it's like a they don't want people to get sick and poisoned from unhealthy meat or something?
unidentified
No, it's being pushed by a bunch of out-of-state organizations like PETA and other stuff like that.
It's a petition right now.
They have 132,000 signatures.
They need 175,000 to get it on the ballot in November.
But it's called the Peace Act.
Who doesn't love peace?
No.
carter banks
Louder than passion.
ian crossland
That sounds like it was written by midwits, but that doesn't mean it couldn't get across the finish line.
Sounds really good.
roseanne barr
They always name stuff the opposite of what it is because people, you know, don't have time to really study and look into what stuff is, but they better do that.
That is horrific, awful.
Oh, my God.
That's just terrible.
It's Hitler's happy face.
It's happy face Hitler.
That's what they are.
ian crossland
Hitler was a vegan, wasn't he?
No, he was a vegetarian.
Although he did eat like shit, I heard he had horrible bowel problems, farts a lot.
unidentified
Yeah.
ian crossland
And this doctor gave him like a whole lot of drugs and he cured his bowel symptoms.
And so he became obsessed with this doctor.
They call him Dr. Feelgood.
That was how they met.
Looking at his gastrointestinal problems.
Jake in the house.
Automatic, sounds completely fucked.
You've got to keep us up to date on the momentum of this thing, if there's even any.
roseanne barr
How wonderful that you found that and that you're speaking about it.
Thank you.
carter banks
Yeah.
ian crossland
Got anything else you want to throw in there?
unidentified
No, you guys, you guys were great.
Thank you so much.
And the last thing, you know, instead of a shout out, what I'd like to just ask for is anybody that's interested or religious or whatever, please pray for my brother-in-law, my wife's brother.
He was at Ali Al Salam Air Base in Kuwait when it was bombed by Iran last week.
He's a civilian contractor, and he had to drive the bus to evacuate everybody.
He's currently stuck in Kuwait in Airbox in a hotel.
And they're like running short on supplies and stuff.
But we talk to him once a day.
But just, yeah, just pray for the civilian contractors and the military members over there.
What's his right now?
roseanne barr
What's his name?
unidentified
His name's Christian.
It's my brother.
It's my wife's brother.
Yeah, his name's Christian.
And yeah, I've been talking to Roman Nation and Slick both about possibly setting up an interview with him.
So in the Discord, I've been talking about that.
But yeah, no, just, yeah, please pray for my brother-in-law, Christian.
This war is getting a little closer to home than I want.
And he's got a wife and kids here in the States while he's over there as a civilian contractor, truck driver, or whatever.
ian crossland
You got it, Chris.
tim pool
Thanks for calling in, brother.
ian crossland
Thanks, man.
unidentified
Thanks, he love y'all.
roseanne barr
Love you.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Next up, we've got Super Patriot.
Whoa, he's a bigger patriot than Tate.
unidentified
Uber.
carter banks
Sup, Super Patriot.
unidentified
Hey, sorry about that.
I just ran back up to my basement.
My washing machine was running across the floor.
First off, Roseanne, I just want to say I'm a huge fan of yours.
Ever since I first saw you on a show on Rodney Dangerfield in the domestic goddess days.
roseanne barr
Yeah, thank you.
unidentified
So my question is, basically, especially for Tim, what are other people in your position going to start taking some of these leftist influencers a little bit more seriously.
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