Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Trump Deploys 5,000 TROOPS To Middle East For IRAN WAR, ITS ON | Timcast IRL w/ Michael Malice

March 13, 2026 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool

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Trump Deploys 5,000 TROOPS To Middle East For IRAN WAR, ITS ON | Timcast IRL w/ Michael Malice

Tim Pool and Michael Malice analyze the deployment of 5,000 U.S. troops to the Middle East amid rumors of Iran's Supreme Leader being incapacitated, debating whether this signals an invasion or a strategic rotation to secure trade routes. They scrutinize prediction markets like Polymarket for betting on political outcomes while dissecting debunked conspiracies such as "Frazzle Drip" and theories that Jeffrey Epstein remains alive due to autopsy inconsistencies. The discussion extends to media consolidation, the razor-thin congressional majority hindering legislation, and cognitive differences affecting voter engagement, ultimately questioning if independent discourse can survive corporate absorption and systemic dysfunction. [Automatically generated summary]
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Trump Bombs Iran Oil 00:14:11
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Donald Trump is deploying 5,000 Marines and sailors into the Middle East for support in this war with Iran.
		He also announced that he bombed one of the principal oil depots for Iran, Karg Island, which has about 90% of their distribution.
		But he said, because he is so magnanimous, that he had spared their oil infrastructure.
		But should he change his mind, he will wipe out the rest of it.
		It looks like we will be getting some kind of boots on the ground, perhaps, but it's likely going to be naval operations.
		We don't know exactly.
		Some have argued that this deployment may just be a standard rotation, but the media is reporting that we're getting 5,000 additional troops to support the war effort in Iran.
		And all of a sudden, we're seeing on prediction markets that the likelihood U.S. troops enter Iran is ever increasing.
		Right now, the speculation is that the new Supreme Leader, that's Moish Taba, I think you pronounced his name, is dead.
		Now, the official reporting is that he's comatose and maimed and lost his leg, and he may not have been alive the whole time.
		Or I'm sorry, he may not have been conscious the whole time, since they've named him Supreme Leader, so he may not even know.
		But there are apparently rumors going around that he's actually dead.
		So we have a lot to break down in what is about to happen in this war.
		And I must stress, if there really are going to be troops on the ground in the Middle East, I think they waited till Friday the 13th for a reason.
		Not for any superstitious reason, just that Friday is where news goes to die.
		So we're going to get into all that.
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		Now, joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is the great Michael Malice.
unidentified		Hello.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much for having me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who are you?
unidentified		What do you do?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Oh, hi.
		So you guys know me.
		I am.
		How many times I've been on the show now?
		It's probably like my 10?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		A hundred.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		A hundred times.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		There is a little goal I wanted to have for this episode tonight, which, why'd you make that face?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say, which is.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Which is, was Eric Jerliven, I guess, in the show as well?
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Yeah.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		So I'm doing a, I wrote a graphic novel in 2001 about this band from the 80s.
		And it's the only band where you don't have to know what their music sounds like to actually enjoy the story.
		Six art school kids who combined punk and country got signed the same day by the same guys, Bon Jovi, and you could read the rest.
		So you and I, Tim, have talked a lot about how there's a lot of darkness in the media.
		This is a fun story.
		And the gatekeepers are no longer there to kind of keep people from writing graphic novels and producing great stuff.
		I was going to reach a goal, but we already reached the goal.
unidentified		There you go.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		So we're having a stretch goal today.
		It's only five grand more.
		And then everyone gets a sticker.
		So if just go to unwantedbook.com.
		Jack's going to keep us updated if we hit that $15,000 goal.
		So we got 10 already.
		So please go to unwaterbook.top.com, see the sample pages, and support people who are trying to make the culture a little bit more fun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on, Luke is here as well.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Five grand for a sticker.
		Very capitalistic of you.
		LukeRadowski, youtube.com forward slash we are change.
		I released a very important video today.
		Go check it out.
		And it's good to have two anarchists that are going to attack team this show.
		Totally in a not gay way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In a not gay way.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Santa somewhat gayway.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		A little bit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And no Ian tonight.
		In fact, Robbie is here.
		I don't think he knows what he's doing.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		He's doing stuff.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Yo, yo, yo, how's everyone doing?
		Looking forward to a good show.
		I love Michael Malis.
		I love Luke.
		I love Phil.
		I'm a groupie of his family.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's a lot of me, though.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		I love Tim.
		Yesterday, Alex was on, and Tim cared about, you know, Alex, we pray for you out there.
		You can find me on Instagram at Robbie Mann and The Robbie Man on Twitter and other platforms.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's get to the news.
		We got this from NBC News.
		Live updates.
		Six killed in U.S. refueling plane crash.
		Iran's new supreme leader likely disfigured, Hag Seth says.
		And I think the big, big story here is approximately 5,000 additional Marines and sailors are deploying to the Middle East to support the war in Iran, according to three U.S. officials.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But can we also say one more thing?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		There have been increasing numbers of deaths and injuries from U.S. forces, but it seems they're all friendly fire or like our fault.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what we're being told.
		We don't know the true number yet as well of how many.
		We do know that there's reports of blood donations being asked in Stuttgart, Germany.
		And obviously, we don't know the full scale of this conflict, but obviously we are killing a lot more Iranians, but Americans are still being hurt in maybe probably larger numbers than we're being told.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		There's no question about that, but I think it's just kind of funny that they're reporting all these deaths and they're all saying, well, it's all our fault instead of make it kind of this heroic thing that, oh, they died in the line of duty.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think they don't want to make that because they don't want to say Iran killed our guys.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, you're right.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Or Kuwait or whoever.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right, because it was friendly fighting.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, you're right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you think these troops are going to go into Iran?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		So I'll defer to Luke as well.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I think if they're going to go anywhere, they're going to go towards the Strait of Hermus.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		No, that's clear.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		In order to get a foothold there to open up the strait.
		It's going to be very difficult.
		The terrain there is extremely mountainous, and the Iranians have been preparing for this ever since the Iraq invasion in 2003.
		So it's going to be an extremely difficult task.
		Some people are saying that they're going to be sent to some of the hardened positions that can't be bombed by some of those big, massive 30,000 pound bombs that we have already dropped on them.
		And therefore, we need troops on the ground there to be inserted in order to take out those facilities.
		So either way, it's going to be extremely difficult, extremely tough.
		I know there was talks about sending in the Kurds.
		The Kurds kind of volunteered a little bit, and then they said no.
		There was talks about arming ISIS also in the region to go after Iran.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Arming ISIS again.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		But we are arming other rebel groups.
		And the plan, even as Lindsey Graham talked about, was giving a lot of the ethnic minorities in Iran weapons in order to start this Iranian civil war.
		We have been bombing their infrastructure.
		We bombed their water desalination plants.
		We bombed their oil infrastructure.
		And it's going to be just a mad rush of sectarian violence, of people just literally fighting over water so that.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Okay, can I jump in here?
		Because there's a lot of talk that the fear-mongering that they're going to start activating sleeper cells in America when literally, as you just said, that is our plan to activate sleeper cells in Iran.
		My big fear, besides all the obvious fears that everyone has concerning this situation, is that the U.S. does something that it's done many times in the past, something Trump has done to his own base, that he encouraged them to rise up.
		Guys, take back your country.
		This is great.
		Yeah, Mr. President, we got it.
		And then he's like, okay, good luck.
unidentified		Bye.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And then all those people who had faith in him end up slaughtered.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And I think that is a very likely scenario, and that is something that is very concerning.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly what happens in history.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly what happens with American intervention and propping up these groups that later give a significant blowback and bomb us and attack us with the same type of organization.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you think the reason for the Iranian war is, Mr. Malas?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I think what Luke said before we started recording was exactly right and hadn't heard it before.
		Which is, go ahead, please.
		Well, no, the point is clearly this is something Israel has wanted for a very long time.
		Nanyahu said explicitly he's been beating off to this idea for four years.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We call it owning.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		So that's what's edging.
		That's clearly the part of it.
		There's also, I think, two big parts for Trump.
		Trump, I think, in his second term is like, you know what?
		I've got power, effort.
		I'm going to put my meat on the table and see how far I can use America's clout to kind of change the world in my own image.
		And Luke's point earlier, which I hadn't thought of before, but which is clear to me, is Trump thinks, okay, if we lock down the Middle East in a scenario where it's roughly stable and amenable to our allies and our interests, we can move forward to Asia.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, not even stable.
		It's about making Israel the dominant superpower in the region.
		Bibi just said we are going to be the superpower now after saying that he's a poor victim of the Iranians before.
		And then once Israel is established inside of the Middle East, America will focus its troops, its resources on Asia.
		And that's where the next big battles and the Asia is going to be the next Middle East.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		He's been very, very clear that China is the big bad, and I don't think he's wrong.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the purpose of the Venezuela operation was to secure oil distribution before Iran shut it down.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise, gas prices would be five times higher.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And also take out Cuba as a kind of a spell.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is another massive story we should probably talk about.
		Cuba's gone.
		You know, they're letting the FBI in.
		They said there's riots, there's protests, there's no gas, the power's out.
		And they're like, please, we'll do whatever you want.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		So they're doing an embargo.
		They're doing a blockade of anything into Cuba because it used to be Mexico.
		It used to be Venezuela that provided them energy.
		They're no longer doing that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's always been an embargo for a very long time, but Venezuela was just supplying energy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Since we seized back our oil assets from Venezuela, Cuba's got nothing left.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And Mexico, too.
		Mexico was pressured.
		Mexico stopped providing energy.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And I do want to shout out to the Cuban people who are based in Awesome.
		And the ones in America.
		And also, your heart breaks for the ones who are there, whose only fault was being born under this communist dictatorship.
		And now they're the ones paying back.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I live in Miami, and one of the things that I have in common with a lot of the people there is we don't like communists.
unidentified		Yeah, right, right.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And they know what it means.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and they survived it just like I did, just like my family did.
		And no one loves top-down big government.
		And the people of Miami are amazing, beautiful people.
		That's why I live there.
		I love all the people who are like, communism?
		Are you crazy?
		Are you sick?
		And that's why there's such a big pushback against.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Should we take Cuba?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		We don't need to take Cuba.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Cuba's going to take itself.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying, like, should we invade?
		I'm saying, should we bring them into the fold?
		Should we go to them and be like, okay, now you're part of the U.S. sphere of influence?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you mean make it like Puerto Rico?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm not saying make it a territory.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying should we go to their government and have a treaty with them and say you are now part of Western Europe?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Whatever gets Cubans food and security in their own person is something I'm in favor of.
		At the least cost of life.
		I think everyone here would agree with that.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		But they want to topple the government.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I mean, we could help stop that embargo now and deliver all that, but they want to change the regime there.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But doesn't Vietnam still technically have a communist government that they're basically Western?
unidentified		Maybe not communism.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But again, China is not necessarily communist either.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		No, but I mean it calls itself communist, but they're not really in any sense.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the Chinese Communist Party is not.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		What I'm saying is, isn't Vietnam far more liberal than China?
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I don't know.
unidentified		Yeah, right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You mean like gay stuff, like gay communism?
unidentified		No, markets.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I mean markets and you're saying freer markets.
unidentified		Yes, yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When you say liberal, there's like there's the American.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I believe in the actual definition.
unidentified		I know, I know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because like the American, the American, the American colloquial definition of liberal is more Marxist-communist than that.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I would say Prague or leftist for that.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Personally, I'm a little bit worried with how disorganized this whole military campaign is.
		There's been poor messaging, poor planning.
		It's been really expensive.
		There's a lot of innocent people that have died.
		American troops have died.
		Where are we going?
		We don't even know.
		Truck today said he's going to feel it in his bones.
unidentified		He's going to say that.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And that's when we're going to end it.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And what's the wind condition?
unidentified		Exactly.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't tell Iran.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The wind condition for the United States is to destroy the Iranian government and basically give Saudi Arabia control of the Gulf.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But the point is, what I hate, I'm not saying you're saying this, people are always like, everything's the worst possible.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It could get worse for the Iranians.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It could be way worse for the Iranians.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		They have no water.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Afghanistan.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		They have no water.
		They have a huge water shortage, and we bombed their water desalination plant.
		Iran has had a water desalination plant that was hit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But desalination works as it is.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It's still favorable towards no water at all, right?
		I'll take anything.
		I worry about it.
unidentified		I'm not saying that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't really do anything.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		But it's not about Saudi Arabia.
		Saudi Arabia is also a major superpower, but it's about having Israel being independent in the region.
		It's about Israel being strong in the region.
		I do worry that oil prices are going to go up after this, right?
		Because all of the energy that Iran was producing on the world markets, it's gone, and the infrastructure for that's gone too.
		So the price of it is going to have to go up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you hear Trump freaked out when he heard Israel bombed the oil fields in Iran?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, allegedly, that's what was said with American officials saying WTF to Israeli officials because Another big behind-the-scenes conflict that I've seen reporting on, we don't know how much of this is true, how much speculation is that the people Trump wants to install for the new Iran and the people Bibi wants to see in power are not the same people, which is very plausible.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And there's a mixed message and there's mixed bombings.
		What I also worry about is not just energy prices, because that's Trump's key plan.
		Lower energy, lower everything else.
		One thing that's important to understand here, in 2015, Iran was selling oil on U.S. dollars.
		I looked this up, right?
		If we wanted to make a deal with them, the deal was open and available.
		We could have negotiated.
		Donald Trump even criticized Obama for not negotiating well enough for trying to bomb Iran.
		So I do believe that this is a quagmire.
		This is a situation where the United States is reaching out to the Iranians saying, okay, you guys want to ceasefire?
		They're saying no.
		So this is a disaster.
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unidentified		Lots of lives.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I've also heard that they are behind the scenes desperately wanting a ceasefire.
unidentified		Exactly.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		So who do you believe in all of this?
		One thing is constant.
		The war is continuing, right?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And the longer it goes on, the worse it is for Trump and this administration and his legacy.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I agree with that.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		So I think that is more reliable for me to understand, hey, it's still going on.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		At the same time, if they don't have someone in charge, they're not in a position to call for a ceasefire.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Who's going to be on calling for the ceasefire?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Iran has been practicing, because the American doctrine is to cut off the head of the snake.
		So the Iranians, after 2003, saw what happened to Saddam and they set up these type of governance systems that can run independently in different pockets and different bodies.
		So there are different forms of leadership that are active in different regions.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But my point is they all have their own interests.
		They all have their own power centers.
		It's not going to be as easy as if there's the one guy.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Shall we?
		We'll jump to this next story.
		We've got this viral video of Scott Besant.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That is, it's kind of weird.
		He was pulled away from interview and then came back and then just volunteered up his children to go fight in this war.
		Take a listen.
unidentified		I listened to you on the president wants you.
unidentified		The president wants you to look at money.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Oh, right away.
unidentified		Okay.
		No problem at all.
		See you shortly.
		Mr. Secretary.
		You have to work that in.
		Mr. Secretary, I have to say, it's a first, I'm sure.
		A loss as well.
		An interviewee's been pulled away to go to the situation room.
		How's the president?
		Was he stressed?
scott bessent ▲ ● ▼		No, the president is in great spirits.
		The Iranian mission is proceeding well ahead of schedule.
		And I have to tell you, well, that I have a teenager who is considering military service, and I could give this team my highest compliment from President Trump to the head of the Joint Chiefs to the Secretary of War.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I know what happened.
scott bessent ▲ ● ▼		I would say that I would trust my child's life in their hands.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He was told to say that.
unidentified		No, no, no.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		He got played the sizzle drip video.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		The White House video.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The White House.
unidentified		The Sizzle Drip video.
unidentified		You know this.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Do you not know this?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Are you talking about the White House videos that they were video games and memes?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You of all people don't know what Sizzle Drip is?
		No.
		I have to tell everyone.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You have to explain it to us.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		When Hillary Clinton was asked about this by Lauren Boebert, apparently there was a bunch of files found on Anthony Wiener's laptop.
		All the cops who saw it ended up prematurely losing their place in this earth.
		I don't want to say the word by their own hands.
		And the video is called sizzle drip.move move or dot AVI.
		And it's a video supposedly of Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin skinning a girl's face and then wearing her skin over it.
unidentified		What?
unidentified		Oh, really?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And Lauren Boebert asked Hillary Clinton about it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got to be honest, you may have seen it.
		Maybe.
		I don't know.
		Trump just told him to say that.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you think?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he went back and Trump said, I want you to tell him everything's going great and really sell it.
		Because all the interviewer asked was, wow, you got Poland Situation Room.
		How's it going?
		It's like, Trump says the war is going really, really great.
		And I trust my son with these people.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		They're like, look at the troop numbers.
		They're all fat.
		We need more people in the military.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got to say, man, it is mind-blowing to me how many Trump supporters are just in lockstep with this, despite the massive moderate outrage, I suppose.
		Independents, disaffected liberals, libertarians are very, very unhappy right now.
		Even prominent conservatives, many are questioning the Iran war.
		But there are still, like Alex Jones pointed out, people like Katner that are sitting there like, no, everything's fine.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I can tell you why.
		Because I could steal man this position.
		This is not my position.
		Let me be clear.
		Because they feel that for the first time in their lives, and usually a little bit older, that there's someone in Washington who hears them, who speaks for them, who makes them feel seen.
		And at a certain point, it's like, you know what?
		Who's to say what's right or wrong?
		But I trust this guy.
		And if he's saying this is the right thing to do, rah-rah, American flag.
		That's their thinking.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I think there's a lot of astroturfing.
		I think there's a lot of bots.
		I think there's a lot of influencers.
		I mean, you can't have 92% on Fox News being reported as people who support.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I think those of us who are terminating online, I think the internet and real life are getting further and further apart.
		And I think a lot of people who aren't on social media or who aren't paying attention, because it has an affect their lives other than gas prices, it's easy for them to be like, oh, yeah, we're going again.
		We're going to kick ass.
		You know, everything's great.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I mean, even Anne Coulter, that I described as the neocon queen during the Bush era, she came out and today said that this is a total disaster.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Ann Coulter had said years ago that we should invade all their countries, convert their leaders to Christianity.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And torture people.
unidentified		Yeah.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And get mo.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		She also said Trump wasn't going to make Iowa in 2024.
unidentified		Well, I mean.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're talking.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That video you're referring to, is that the deep fake video of Hillary torturing people?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I know there's a no, no, there's a urban drip is it?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Frazzle drip, sorry, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Frazzle Drip.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, 2018, Frazzle Drip.
unidentified		Yeah.
		I don't know.
		That was.
		I didn't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You misspoke.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what they named the video, but that was the.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		She got asked about it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Frazzle drip.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Don't say it three times.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It'll manifest.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That was the point.
		It's going to happen.
		You know, I think everything's fake and gay.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Okay.
		That's true.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's just, that's how I feel about everything.
unidentified		You know what I'm saying?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Hey, wait, can I say one more thing with Seuran War?
		Not every human beings don't listen to look for truths.
		They look for narratives, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		If you think Trump is this evil authoritarian strongman, which is your prerogative, he could be Mussolini.
		He could be Franco.
		Not everyone's Hitler, who's a bad authoritarian dictator.
		Not everything is the Iraq war.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got a question.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Not everything's the Vietnam War.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Not everything's Venezuela.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Males, I have a question for you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that Buchanan was a victim of his circumstances?
unidentified		Pat?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		President James.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You mean the 15th president?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he was the, yes, before Lincoln.
		He's widely regarded as one of the worst presidents, if not the worst we've ever had.
		But I wonder if, given his circumstances, he wasn't?
		I thought he was.
unidentified		He was.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		He was gay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		He was like a bachelor.
		So my thought was this.
		A lot of people say he was weak.
		He tried to placate both sides.
		It didn't work.
		But what if Lincoln had that position?
		And many people believe that Lincoln was an iron fist president.
		He said, you know what, it's not going to happen.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're questioning that?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't say that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The March to the Sea, the suspension of habeas corpus, arrest of the Maryland legislature.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I assure you, as an anarchist, I'm quite familiar with Lincoln's shortcomings.
		Sure, I'm an iron fist.
		I don't know if that's the word I would say.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me put it like this.
		The reason I asked this is I was thinking about it, and I'm like, I wonder if Lincoln was president when the union was intact, if he would have tried to negotiate to prevent it from happening.
		And only because he entered office after secession did he say, I have no choice.
		The reason being, I look at what Donald Trump is doing, and he's been heavily criticized recently.
		I've called him Buchanan because of the riots and his inability to send out law enforcement or invoke the Insurrection Act.
		Now that the pitch is, we're going to wind back the mass deportation thing.
		It's not popular.
		Trump is.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		He's going to downplay.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		The message went out, stop talking about mass deportation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
		So he's walking things back, and people are viewing him as weak and not Lincoln-esque.
		And I said, this is more Buchanan, but.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You think Trump's gay?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If he's got several kids.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You never, never know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If JD Vance say gets in, and now he's starting to falter in the prediction markets because of everything that's going on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But let's say he gets in in the midst of the city.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		JJ gets in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's say 2028 comes around.
		The war here, it's not necessarily the Iran war, but global war has expanded.
		Venezuela destabilizes.
		Iran's crazy.
		China makes a move on Taiwan.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		JD Vance gets in.
		And it's not that he's a stronger, it's that he has no choice.
		I guess my question was, I don't think most people would assume that Buchanan, were he to have gotten after a Civil War already started, would have been a strong president.
		But looking at Trump, I view him typically as kind of a boorish, strong man.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think that's very fair.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But he's been relatively weak in a lot of ways.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I think people underestimate what he's facing because they don't have a governing House majority.
		Like a lot of people were saying, abolish the filibuster.
		I'm like, why abolish the filibuster if you don't have the house?
		You can't pass any of Trump's legislation through.
		I think a lot of this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You think we shouldn't abolish the filibuster?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		If we abolish the filibuster, the Democrats are going to get the Senate eventually.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're going to do it anyway.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I don't agree with you, and here's why.
		Because there's one thing what people say, one thing what people do.
		If the filibuster is abolished, Thomas Massey, God bless him, has a big platform because they have a one-seat majority.
		If the Republicans had a 40-seat majority and Thomas Massey's pitching a fit, go after yourself.
		Trump's not going to care.
		So if you lose the filibuster, every individual Democratic senator is infinitely less important because they're not in a position to hold up legislation.
		So yes, last time they lost by two votes, but Kristen Sinma said, and I believe her, that a lot of these senators are hiding behind her skirts because privately they don't want to lose the filibuster either because they want to be have power.
		But look, she's giving them cover.
		So a lot of times people assume that their opponents are automatically going to do everything.
		If they lose the filibuster, just want to say one more thing.
		If they lose the filibuster, we're going to have socialized health care.
		We're going to have amnesty for all these illegals.
		We're going to have nationalized gun bans.
		And I don't think it's a given that if you had a Democratic president, it's not a given.
		It might happen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm for it.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You're for all those things?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		At this point, I was going to say this a moment ago.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Finish your point.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		The other point is, back in, I think, in the early autumn, the 90s, there was a balanced budget amendment on the floor of the Congress.
		And it was down to two votes in the Democrats.
		And Mary Landrew, I think it was, and Torres Selly of New Jersey sat down and he said, okay, you're going to vote no.
		I'm going to vote yes.
		Because a lot of this stuff's about posturing.
		The Democratic Party is a corporate hack machine.
		They like their donors.
		They like their money.
		They're not as ideological as Bernie Sanders, the AOC, despite what your boomer uncle might tell you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I would like for a figurative black hole son to come and wash away the rain just of all of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Figuratively.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Why would a son wash away rain?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's just the song, Michael.
		I don't know.
		Everyone loves it.
unidentified		Sungard.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well, Michael, I know who that is.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Thank you, Pop-up video.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Michael brought up a great point about the donuts.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to make this point.
		When I said I'm for all of these things, I'm not for those things they would pass.
		I am sick of a Congress that won't pass popular bills, that will pass unpopular bills.
		And if you're telling me that right now, we can just say, pull the trigger, take what we want, and then see what happens.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		They can't take what they want because they don't have a House majority.
		You can't get any Trump rotors to the House.
		They have one seat.
		You do not have a functionality.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We can at least get the SAFE Act.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I don't know that that's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If we get rid of the filibuster?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you can't lose.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Do they have?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got 53 in the Senate.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right, right.
		So the point is you could lose two or three, you could lose three senators, and JD Vance could be the tiebreaker.
		So my attitude is this.
		The SAVE Act is one of the most popular pieces of legislation in our lifetime.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		71% of Democrats, 80% of Independents, 95% of Republicans, and they won't pass it because they're a dysfunctional, corrupt bunch.
unidentified		I do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you know it.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I'm not disputing that dysfunctional corrupt at all.
		My point is you have to look at Thomas Sowell says there's no solutions, only trade-offs, right?
		So if you get the SAVE Act at the cost of all this other stuff, court packing, I don't know that's necessarily a win.
		I think the crux of our disagreement is people assume it's a given that when the Democrats take over the Senate, they're going to nuke the filibuster.
		And I disagree that it's a given.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		If that happened, I just don't think it's a given.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is the current state of affairs acceptable in any way?
unidentified		No.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You know, it is acceptable because you're not going to get violent.
		You're accepting it.
		You see what I mean?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're saying that for the average person, because there's no violence, it's at least somewhat acceptable to a degree.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Because there's something called real preferences.
		If I say that I believe in monogamy and I'm cheating my wife every weekend, I don't really believe in monogamy.
		So I could say it's unacceptable, but I'm accepting it.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I kind of believe it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would phrase it as actions speak louder than words, and I would agree with you on that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I would also say one of the stories that we have tonight is the conviction of several anti-fu terrorists for terror attacks on ICE facilities.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Can I say one more thing?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's not acceptable, but it's acceptable, but it's not sustainable.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I think that's the bigger key.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So my view is this.
		Do we sit around and, well, I guess I'll put it this way.
		If the system stays as it is and we do not, the Save Act scares me.
		The Save Act scares me because it's so popular.
		This is one of those things where it really does flashbang the American people.
		The Emperor has no clothes.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it does.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying that every single person is going to wake up to it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's a red pill.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're turning the temperature up on the boiling frogs by three degrees that have won the ball.
unidentified		I agree.
unidentified		I agree.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But I also think that there's a low ceiling for how many people can be red-pilled.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's much lower than people think.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I agree.
		I agree.
		My point is not that when I say flashbang, not that everyone's going to wake up instantly and say, oh my God, it's that it's a jolt a little too much the system can't necessarily handle.
		It is a delicate balance.
		You need only a very small percentage of people to lose their minds.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I agree with that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So when you have a populist base of the plurality of voters who supported Trump, the politicos, not the average person, seeing that even when Democrats and Republicans agree the machine state will not allow you to get election integrity through, the emperor has no clothes, and it's going to be a kick in the balls to a lot of people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it will accelerate things is just basically my point.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to say two things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So final point.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Please.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If it is to remain this way, the only advice I would have to people is ammunition and emergency food.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I agree with everything you said, and that's why there's something called the Anarchist Handbook, which you can pick up at anarchishandbook.com, because at a certain point...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I remember when I was a kid.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That's the anarchist cookbook book.
unidentified		Oh, you're right.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Anarchist is me.
		What people, me and Luke and Phil have been talking about for a long time is you can't fix it.
		This is something that is systemic.
		That is something that is ingrained to the system.
		You cannot make this work.
		You can make it better.
		You can make it worse, but it's still going off the cliff.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		So I do think the Democrats are going to get rid of the filibuster.
		But also, I agree with you 110%.
		The Republicans are hijacked by the donor class.
unidentified		Yes.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		They're doing everything that the donors want.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		But they also pay money interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's break this down.
		Let's break this down.
		So, Luke, you just mentioned that the Republicans are captured by the donor class.
		I've heard it a lot, but I'm curious, what is the agenda of the donor class and what does it mean to be captured by the donor?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It depends which donor class, right?
		There's a military industrial complex, Lockheed, Marian, Raytheon.
		They're getting a lot from this Iranian war.
		There's Marion Andelson, $250 million.
		She obviously is getting a lot of favorite policies as well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And what does she want specifically?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Trump to run for a third term and the Israeli state.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She offered Trump a bunch of money for something very specific, and that's the West Bank.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		Okay.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
unidentified		Yes.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And she's probably going to get rewarded by that.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Elon Musk gave $100 million so he could have favorable treatment with his government contracts.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He didn't get what he wanted.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He wanted the subsidy, and he didn't even get it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nightmare future dystopia.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Neon.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's not a dystopia.
		It's a utopia.
		It's freedom.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a utopia.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		This is a dystopia.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		What we're offering is relatively unutterable.
unidentified		Yes.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That's a solution.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All of these agendas, everybody is basically extracting from the system as much as they can as it burns down.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And you can't blame them.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Well, the incentives are on to do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Titanic is sinking, and everyone's grabbing as much of the silver as they can before they jump to a life.
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luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		This has been, I think, one of my kind of things that I realized this week.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I think we're headed towards a collapse, and the elite are just taking everything that they want.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We've been talking about on this show for years.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You never mentioned collapse, Tim.
unidentified		Not once.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Not one time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not once.
		You know, it's really freaky.
		You know what's really freaky?
		Do you guys remember on this show when I predicted years ago that the future would be an app called like Job Hunt or Jobber?
		And it would say, if you want $50, click this button.
		And then it would say, meet this man and collect this item.
		And it'll show you a weird mechanical device.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Tim, that was your grinder account.
unidentified		Now we're seeing.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You met that man and you gave $50.
unidentified		I sure did.
unidentified		That's what I met with.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		He gave you a job of two different kinds.
unidentified		I got $50.
unidentified		That's not all I wanted, actually.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My point is this.
		My point is this.
		In the future, you'll have an app.
		You'll want to make money.
		It'll be like Uber.
		And it'll say, for $50, collect this item from this man and give it to this, drop it off at this address.
		And you'll have no idea what you're doing or why.
		And then you'll say, okay, you'll just say a guy will walk up and go, are you, Michael?
		And you go, yep.
		And he goes, here's the box.
		And you'll be like, what is it?
		No idea.
		You go, okay.
		Then you walk, that tracks you.
		You show up at a building and you say, here's your box.
		And I go, thanks.
		What is it?
		And they go, we don't know.
		And then the app goes, ching, 50 bucks.
		We have now seen, there's a, there's a, have you seen this app where AI will hire humans to do odd jobs?
		It has begun.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I can go even darker.
		There is something, I don't want to, I have to use my words very carefully.
		If you have a betting pool, and I bet when Tim departs this earth, right, a bunch of people can send in crypto anonymously, and they say, okay, you pick a date.
		And if I know that if Tim departs this earth on July 12th, I'm going to get that huge jackpot, right?
		You don't know who chips in because crypto anonymity, and you don't know who gets the payout because of crypto anonymity.
		I was just going to say one thing.
		That's already happened.
		Because someone made a ton of money on polymarket because of the Ayatollah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I made money on Kalshi from the Ayatollah.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		So it works kind of like crowdfunding.
		A lot of people throw money for this action that they want to see happen.
		Let's suppose I don't like Tim or whoever else it is.
		And I see, wait a minute, if Tim leaves Earth July 12th, I'm going to become a millionaire.
		I'm going to do something about it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was a video where...
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That can happen right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a video.
		I'm not a big football guy or basketball.
		I'm not sure what this was, but there's a video where I was explaining that some prominent athlete was doing an interview after a game where he apologized for the bad spread or something because the people only cared about the wagers on the game.
		But back to the point you were making, there was a on Kalshi, they had a prediction market, Ayatollah out of power by a certain date.
		Everyone assumed that to mean that he would be dead.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because the Ayatollah is not leaving voluntarily.
		However, in the contract, they said no, it is out of power through political means or resignation, not death.
		So I actually had purchased features a contract on this that he would be out of power.
		But I'm not stupid enough to wait for the conclusion.
		I sell when I make a profit.
		So when the strikes happened and the value of the S contract went up, I just sold it and took a profit.
		People got mad after the fact because now four or five hours later, it was concluded.
		He was dead.
		Therefore, anyone who had that contract at that time, when the strike happened, not after the fact, wanted to get paid out for him being pulled out of office.
		But Kalshi said, our contract says no debt.
		But that would mean the inverse.
		That would mean that everybody who said no should have got paid out the moment he was killed because now he can never resign or be removed from office.
		What you're bringing up, and the reason why Kalshi does not, one of the principal reasons, allow contracts on death is for exactly what you described.
		Will Timcast IRL end by this date?
		And then someone puts $5 million on yes.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then that person then goes to a guy and says, here's $50,000 in Bitcoin.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Make sure his show is over.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the future we have right now.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And that's like five minutes from now.
		I'm saying it's not the future in terms of like two years or three years.
		Technology is here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you see the polymarket prediction that Clavicular would be the supreme leader of Iran?
		And some people have bought that he would.
		Probably as a meme.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		No, but if you buy it and then the market goes up, you can make money that way.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Like Dogecoin.
unidentified		Of course.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I think it's going to be Mike Pence.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Apparently the leader of Iran.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Religious fanatic who hates Trump.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		You know, he plays ball.
unidentified		Sort of.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		How much inside information, though, is going on with these bets?
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I feel like people in the administration have inside knowledge.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's been very clear.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's been very clear.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's been a lot of suspicious activity.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So there was one account that wagered heavily, like I think it was like 20 grand that we would have troops in Iran.
		Now, here's the important thing I was warning people about.
		Troops in Iran does not mean that Trump deploys 100,000 people.
		It could mean three guys.
unidentified		Right.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Special forces, Grant.
unidentified		Special forces.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And now we have some Marine deployment.
		So I'm telling you, I would personally, like, I'm not telling you what to do.
		No betting.
unidentified		Don't bet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I'm saying I'm going to go and say it's one for one.
		Like, we will have personnel.
		We probably already do in the ground once it's confirmed that this guy, he made a series of bets on U.S. military action, and he nailed it all.
		Here's the issue, though.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		What does he have?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what other bets he has going forward?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, we could pull this guy's account up and look at what he's playing on.
		Let me see if I can find it.
		If he's been apparently people have said he's changed his name.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		I mean, people are making money with crypto shorting the market before Trump's announcement.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Of course, 10X.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		There's been so much insider trading that insane and disgusting because it screws over the average person.
		The average person who's trying to survive here or play these markets doesn't have a chance because of all this insider traders, man.
		And they're the ones that they're taking the money from.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		But the best thing long and everything.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		The best return on investment is going to unwantedbook.com, supporting my graphic novel, and getting into $15,000 a day, just to give everyone a stick.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Will you plug your OnlyFans 2?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is interesting.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That's the best ROI.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is the alleged account.
		Now, I'm going to say this.
		I don't know who this person is.
		I don't know if they're an insider.
		I don't know what, how, if, so one thing that's important to say is you could sell these positions before the conclusion.
		A lot of the money that this guy is making or lady may actually just be speculation.
unidentified		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the U.S. is going to go in.
		As soon as news happens, active or all, it's nothing.
		It's $100 here and there.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you've got, will the U.S. strike three countries in February of 26th?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's passed.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So he lost a grand on that one.
unidentified		Okay.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And Mark Kelly winning the 20.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Mark Kelly has a better shot than people think.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And what's going to happen is this guy's got 34,000 shares.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Wait a minute.
		Wait, hold on.
		I got to say one thing.
unidentified		Wow.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Mark Kelly officially is getting my endorsement for the Democratic nominee because I want to see Gabby Giffords as first lady.
		Were right as uh about about the Fetterman, and I was right about Biden as the nominee.
		But look at this, I want Gabby, get rid of no one else.
		I did not like guns because potato this is.
unidentified		This is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is very important.
		He bought Mark Kelly to to win the nomination at 2.7 cents.
		News is going to come out when Mark Kelly announces he's running, it's going to spike to fifth to 14, 15 cents and you sell it and boom, he's got 34 000 shares.
		He's cashing out bang.
		This guy is up $106,000 this month.
		But if you look at most of the trades he's made that have concluded successfully, Khomeini out as supreme leader by February 28th, jackpot, $55,000 profit.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That is count that if he's dead, he counts as on polymark, yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Cauchy, no.
unidentified		Got it.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Israel strikes Iran by February 28th.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He made $17,000.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So these concluded.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		These were bets that concluded on that.
unidentified		And he won.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Are there any loss?
		Can you scroll down?
		They're all winners.
		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I do believe he does have losses.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		He must.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All of his most recent ones appear to be that this person knows what is going on.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Now imagine what's going on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or at least is predicting very accurately.
		Now, I want to stress this.
		This guy might just work for the economist.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's Ian, right?
		It's got to be Ian.
		He's cussing the ball.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's got a sunglass in his top hat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's got his grandma.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Just Baron's friends.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		He's rich.
unidentified		I want to stress this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to stress this.
		This could be a person who works for the economist, right?
		Or who works for a private Intel firm.
		Meaning, they don't know what the government is doing, but they have a bunch of sources.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		What if it's war?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		What if it's JPFC?
unidentified		I've just seen that.
unidentified		I'm like, Jeffrey FC.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		He's seen it selling me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's literally like Jeffrey FC making it.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Wait, can we talk about this quickly?
		I hear this a lot online.
		Luke, you're the guy go-to for this.
		What is the evidence and how likely do you think it is that Epstein literally is still alive?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it's great.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I think it's very overwhelming now.
		Look at all the emails we got, all the disclosures we got with more and more inconsistencies of the official version of Epstein.
		With the 4chan post, with the description of the male genitalia, also.
		Can you explain this in the autopsy as well?
		But to stay on topic here, to connect the dots here as well, there's also a lot of accusations of insider trading.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		So especially with 9-11.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not insider trading.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But finish your point.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about how on 9-11 they did insider trading.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Rich operations.
		And I think this is why the files around 9-11 with the Epstein documents aren't released.
		So if you look at all of the files, right, we have their names, but the files go missing before 9-11, during 9-11, after 9-11.
		And I think that is possibly because of potential insider trading that was happening.
		That could have been Epstein.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I'll say this, Michael, to the point about insider trading and all this stuff.
		Functionally, it's not insider trading.
		There is a really interesting phenomenon that I challenge for these markets because there's currently a bet on Cauchy about whether or not I go to a press briefing.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If I tell Robbie, I actually am going to go.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Please tell me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not selling those contracts.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So insider trading functionally has meant.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's not the same.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's not like stocks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Someone who is selling those stocks or has control of the company had knowledge the public did not have.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But if someone else wants to sell contracts on my or anyone else's behavior, you can't make me an insider.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I definitely have a contract out on Tim.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to be rich.
unidentified		I'm getting rich, baby.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Which, to go to the...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, so the funny thing...
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		To go to the White House.
unidentified		Yeah, see?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What I will say is this.
		To sort of pull back a little bit on these theories about insider trading, I got to be honest.
		I think I could make more money than this guy if I were to actively trend on polymarket just by reading the news every day the way I do.
		We have made on this show many bad predictions, but many more good predictions.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's because they're decently vague.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So for instance, I bought $300 that Khamenei would be out under the assumption it meant dead.
		I did not know it meant removed.
		Otherwise, I never would have bought it.
		Then when the strikes happened, I was like, we all saw this coming a mile away.
		So I just sold it a profit because I want to EV cash out.
		I don't want to wait.
		When news broke that Donald Trump had a detransitioner at the State of the Union, I bought a contract that Trump would say the word transgender.
		The moment he said the person's name, I sold it a profit and then he never said the word.
		So all in all, I think I'm up like 500 bucks doing his prediction market things, which I don't recognize anybody do this.
		This is small amounts of money I'm doing kind of for fun just to try it out.
		My point is, everyone's saying it's an insider, but I'm going to be honest.
		I bet with your knowledge of news and foreign affairs, if you were looking through contracts to buy in polymarket, you'd probably clear 100%.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Because that's the other thing.
		People don't need, the thing doesn't have to happen for you to win.
		You can just sell it at a better position.
		I do want to remind people at home, because I get teaching best all the time.
		On your show, I bet Roseanne Barr that they were going to cancel the 2020 election, and she was incorrect that she wouldn't.
		That they would cancel it.
		She was betting that they would cancel it.
		I said they were not going to cancel it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Which is an easy bet.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And then people were like, well, Kamal is the nominee, so the election doesn't count.
		It's like, okay, well, why?
		I don't remember their logic.
		It's not legitimate.
		Like, that's not.
		Anyway, she was wrong, and she admitted she was wrong, and she paid me out.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Nice.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Good.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		So tell me what's very good evidence they have the Epstein.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But hold on, hold on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What about the military tribunal bet?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		We call that a wash because her argument was there'd be mass arrests of child herders.
		I don't know what the word is.
		And I said no.
		And there was, I can arrest like 15 of them.
		I'm like, okay.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So that's one thing that actually did.
unidentified		Right.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But it's not the numbers that she was saying, but it's not nothing.
		So I felt comfortable.
		We call it a wash.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		There's also a lot of other bigger players that do huge bets and then they delete their accounts.
		They do another name, another account.
		And then a lot of them are very suspicious, especially when it comes to things like crypto and Ronald Trump.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Who's in the Toronto Dump account?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you that could be.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		But Michael, weren't you friends with John McFee by chance?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I was not, but I interviewed his biographer on my show.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		A lot of predictions come true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's looking good.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I'm new.
unidentified		I know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at the sports better on Polymarket.
		This is incredible.
		This guy in the last month has made $2.3 million.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		All in sports, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sports betting.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But here's the thing.
		A lot of losses, a lot of losses in the active market.
		But these are active, meaning he could sell at a loss whenever he wants.
		His closed positions are for hundreds of thousands of dollars.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Well, a lot of sports books won't take that much action, so that's why he's on here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because it's a direct wager against other people, essentially.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		I don't know why Mickey Mace hits me up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have a theory.
		I have an AI theory for you, Michael.
		I think we had a story pulled up.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Are you not going to let Luke give me the...
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Are you trying to cover this up?
unidentified		I...
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I asked him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll get it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'll let it all out for you.
unidentified		He's alive.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I want to hear the evidence.
		I'm not saying he's not.
		I want to hear what the people base this on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We have new information on the female guard that she received strange sums of money.
unidentified		Right.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Thousands of people.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		That's a bank flag.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The bank flag that is suspicious because she was sprinkling it into her account.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Can I say the joke I said on Fox?
		So she was Googling Jeffrey Epstein minutes before they found his body.
		And I said, I sure hope she's not Googling Fauci or Trump or Fauci or JD Vance or Fauci or Mitch McConnell or Fauci.
		And they got mad at you?
		They did not.
		But one woman in the audience clipped it, a boomer.
		She's like, I can't believe making jokes like this when President Trump was shot.
		I'm like, yeah, great work, lady.
unidentified		Let me give you the evidence.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me give you evidence.
unidentified		Great work.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I believe that there is a great probability.
		I don't know what the number is, that Epstein's actually alive.
		And I didn't used to think this.
		It's very conspiratorial.
		But I believe the latest information that we have actually suggests this.
		So there's a few things.
		This woman received strange sums of money.
		She was Googling Epstein minutes before he was found dead.
		The cameras are turned off.
		They both fall asleep.
		They both get in trouble.
		Something about what they were doing does not make sense.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The workers at the jail, it is now a fact.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They stuffed a body bag full of boxes and pillows, and the photos we have of the body being brought out is confirmed by mainstream reporting to have been a fake body for the purpose of dissuading the press from following the actual convoy.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Can we pull that up?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I would love to see that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yep, that's one of many things.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Additionally, this is why I talk to people like this.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Hold on, do the homework for me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The FBI investigated the other security guard, or I should say this, wipe that.
		The FBI investigated a series of 4chan posts where someone before Epstein was known to have been dead said people came in, I believe they swapped him out.
		When the FBI investigated this and it was released in the Epstein files, we don't have any smoking gun that literally says the Epstein files has concluded this poster is the guard.
		But in the evidence stack, the guard's bank accounts and personal information is connected to the case, indicating to many people that the FBI traced the evidence to figure it out, and the IP addresses led them to this guy.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, U.S. Attorney General Jeffrey Berman of the SDNUI opened up a grand jury proceeding that subpoenaed 4chan, Apple, and AT ⁇ T and Citibank for records, aiming to uncover the identity of this anonymous 4chan post that talked about Epstein's bodies being swiped.
Redacted Epstein Secrets 00:15:27
unidentified		Oh, wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's the son.
		Here's the sun.
		Where was the body?
		Epstein jail staff took fake body out of prison to trick World's Media after Peto's death shock files claim.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So there's numerous reports about this.
		And my understanding is it is, for the most part, widely reported in the Epstein files.
		That's what they did.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, can you scroll down a little?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The reason why they did it, apparently, the sun's not a particularly well.
		Here's the, let me zoom in for you.
		So this is from an interview.
		Blank, so and unknown was with Epstein's body and secured the scene.
		Redacted remained with CEOs and redacted and redacted until person off the office chief medical examiner arrived at transport Epstein in the facility due to the large news media presence.
		A male OCME official called and said he'd be arriving at the loading dock with a black vehicle in order to thwart the media.
		Redacted, redacted, and redacted, used boxes and sheets to create what appeared to be a human body, which was put into the white OCME vehicle, which the press followed, allowing the black vehicle to depart unnoticed with Epstein's body.
		Now, hold on.
		The press was already at the hospital where Epstein was being brought in.
		And many people have pointed out that the man who was wheeled in did not look like Epstein.
		His nose is a different shape.
		His ears are a different shape.
		It looks to be just some old guy who kind of looks like him.
		When you look at those photos, I would argue it does seem suspicious.
		The argument has largely been, even I've accepted, in the past, I said, well, look, when you die, things happen, right?
		With all of this additional evidence, now I call into question for this reason.
		If the press was already waiting at the hospital where they knew he was going to be, thwarting the media makes literally no sense.
		So why make a fake body and load it into a vehicle?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise, even if it was his real body, let them follow him to the hospital.
		They care.
		But it makes no sense.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why thwart the media?
unidentified		Who cares?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you're going to see a banana body.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the press was already there because they knew which hospital they would be bringing this person to.
		So I am not saying that I know for a fact or it's greater than 51% that Epstein is alive.
		I'm saying we have a preponderance of evidence suggesting the man is actually still alive.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		So I saw the thing of the prostate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And he's working on polymarket to turn a profit.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		So the prostate and then the male genitalia also was described differently.
		His nose looked different.
		A lot of people are speculating that Hillary Clinton's brother, that kind of looks like that person who passed away before that, could have been the swap out here.
		We do not know.
		We do not have confirmation of this.
		But everything with the official version of events just doesn't add up, doesn't make sense.
		Multiple video cameras, not just one video camera, weren't working.
		The FBI allegedly deleted it.
		There was the first alleged suicide attempt that happened that also the video footage was deleted.
		And this is where Epstein came out and said that his cellmate tried to kill him, but the media reported as Epstein tried to kill himself.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So when the DOJ released the surveillance footage and there was like a minute and a half missing, and then they lied about why, and then you can see the time jump.
		They were caught lying about this.
		Then there's an orange jumpsuit scene moving towards the area.
		None of this has been explained.
		The one thing we can say for sure is the official narrative of Epstein is false.
		We don't know exactly what happened.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		But Bongino said, we're going to see the video.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		We're going to be convinced that Epstein killed himself through that particular video.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That was in the case of one counterpoint.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to say one counterpoint, which is if they're going to bribe this guard, which I would not doubt at all, I don't think they'd be the sloppy about it.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		They never even were charged with falsifying the records.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Is that true?
unidentified		Yes.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		They falsified government records.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me say this.
		There's a few theories as to what's going on in the world right now.
		And I've entertained, and it could be wrong because it's hard to know for sure.
		The liberal economic order was created by strong men after World War II.
		These guys were brutal.
		You got, who was the guy who dropped the bomb?
		Do you remember his name?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Truman?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, the actual general who dropped the bomb.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got the life magazine.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Douglas Arthur?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Douglas MacArthur?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I know what you're referring to.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		The name escapes me too.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		While he's looking at a very important quote, why has nobody found the guard and tried to interview her from the who is so sorry?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I forgot the guy's name.
		I have the Life magazine, and he's sitting there.
		Tibbets.
		Tibbets.
		He's smoking a cigar on the cover of the magazine.
		These guys were merciless.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They said, we don't want to just win the war.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We want to send a message.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So wipe out 100,000 people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So these guys created the liberal economic order, and they said, we are going to police the world and put everyone else under our rules.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wealth lasts three years.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But also they're up against the Soviet Union, so they have to be strong.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wealth lasts three generations.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They say.
		My speculative theory, maybe it's not high probability, is that these men have children.
		These children inherit the liberal economic order and they generally understand what their parents taught them.
		The grandchildren are now the people running liberal economic order, and they're the third generation detached from what actually needed to be done to make this machine work.
		And so this is where the third generation of wealth is falling apart.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But this is the fourth generation, no?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the fourth generation is when you lost the wealth.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But this is the fourth, because you had World War I would be the 40s.
		Then you'd have the 70s.
		Then you'd have like the 90s.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So the people running right now are in their 80s.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But this would be three generations after that.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know there's been more than just, I'm saying the current group of people that are running it are the third generation.
		There's certainly more generations after that.
		So the boomers are the children.
		So you had older people running it.
		Then you had silent generation.
		And then so boomers are taking it.
		They don't know exactly what needed to be done.
		They are weak and ineffective.
		So they do some of these things, but they do it rather poorly.
		You end up with cockamamie BS failures in all of these.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's not only they do it poorly.
		It's that they're not up to the new technology and the technology is much faster than they can keep up.
		Indeed, I think one of the things that could have had President Trump in 2016 without Twitter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		And I think what caught the machine set off guard was social media and how quickly grassroots movements would pop up that you could not just shut down.
		They have tried incessantly.
		Oh, I got one for you, Michael.
		You're going to love this.
unidentified		Please.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe I'll just burn everything down while I'm in it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They have tried incessantly to keep the mainstream media as the functional narrative machine for a long time.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it was dying and didn't work.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But a meeting was had about a month ago in Florida among big executives addressing.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You mean 2026?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes, recently.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Was had.
		It was a standard convention of suits and ties coming together to discuss how these big networks now enter the space we exist in.
		I believe the censorship machine has not stopped.
		And I believe what we are going to see moving forward is, considering I've had conversation with big companies, the narrative machine is going to bounce back.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This world of free podcasting is over.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And what's going to happen is big podcasters will be brought into the likes of Paramount and Netflix is already doing it.
		It's already happening.
		Netflix's got a podcast section.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And your Times does as well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And what?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		New York Times does as well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What we are going to see in the next three years is that the only shows that will survive are the ones that are part of network television.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Here's another thing that they're going to do.
		People are very into 1984 authoritarianism.
		They see what's going on in England.
		I think everyone watching this, besides getting unwantedbook.com, needs to read Brave New World because the corporate structures haven't unleashed hedonism yet.
		They haven't unleashed influencers who are telling everyone, look, hold on.
		They haven't dialed it up to 10 yet.
		Point being, like, look, the Republicans, the Democrats are both the same.
		The system can't work.
		Instead of sitting at home and pounding a desk and blah, blah, blah, civil war, go take Iowa, Iowa.
		This is not universal yet.
		This is not on CBS.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		On Gen Z, it is.
		I understand what you're saying.
		But when you Gen Z is gambling like crazy, they are saying exactly what you're describing.
		Both parties are screwed.
		There's no point to be involved in any of this.
		Why don't you go on Insert Casino app and just gamble, gamble, gamble.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Or consume a game.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We are absolutely seeing this.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about stuff that alters the mind in a literal sense.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it will be drugs.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it will.
		That's in the 60s.
		It will be drugs.
unidentified		But here's the thing.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		We have SOMA.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But look, look, the idea from Brave New World about drugs is because it was written at a time based on the assumptions and predictions of the technology they had.
		There's this really great comic from the early 1900s where it said life in the 2000s.
		And firefighters had, they were peddling, they were flying in the air with wings, and they were peddling to flat their wings as they fought fires.
		Because in their minds, the future was technology they had amplified.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Like a faster horse.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What we know now is that social media operates like a drug.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It triggers dopamine and creates addictions.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Parasocial relationships.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		AI and gambling are going to be exactly what you describe.
		But I want to say one quick thing on the other point I was making about how the future, YouTube, eugenic content is over.
		We have seen these trends already happening where it's becoming increasingly more difficult to get started on YouTube.
		They're raising the bar every day.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Is that true?
unidentified		Yes.
		Okay.
		I see it too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So for someone like me, it's really easy.
		I launch a new channel.
		I tell my followers to go there.
		I call Google and say monetize it.
		And they go, done.
		New people, you got to get a thousand hours, you got to get, but I want to like it this way.
		Remember in the 2000s with Napster and LimeWire and Kaza, you could go online and download anything.
		You had mega upload.
		Any movie you wanted to watch was free on mega upload, pirated.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Kim.com.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Kim.com.
		They lost control of this mechanism.
		They got it back.
		Now, you want to watch a movie, you go on Amazon, and it's 1999 and you click the button.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You could still torrent things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You could, but no one does.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's my point.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And they're going to make it more and more illegal and they're going to be every PM.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		By all means, you do, but don't be a woman, Michael.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're not talking about the exception.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That ship has sale.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You don't have to make it more illegal.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They just have to make it more convenient to actually download it on the above.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Metropolitan.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		$10 an hour or $10.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I did not know the torrenting has gone down.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was still as popular as ever.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, absolutely not.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I didn't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what's going to happen?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I'm not being a woman.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I'm being a boomer.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So indeed, what's going to happen with this show and with every other show is, even right now, people have noticed it's increasingly difficult to find this stream.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So on Monday, for instance, Luke said, where's the link?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I said, it's live, but YouTube did not put it on our channel.
unidentified		Oh, wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And this has been the case for a long time.
		This is what YouTube does to us.
		It ebbs and flows.
		Sometimes YouTube will censor us, sometimes they won't.
		So anybody who's listening right now from YouTube who actually likes our show, because this actually works, by the way, go onto our channel and look for any lockdowns and please remove them.
		Because I believe it was 2021, you could not Google search anything from me.
		Any Tim Pool video, if you search for it, would come up on Facebook only.
		Went live on this show, said it, and in real time, the ban was lifted, and you could all of a sudden find me on Google again.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		You used to look me up as a conspiracy theorist and nothing else, even though I had all this work here.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		So I'm feeling YouTube and all of these networks know it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to let you guys in on a big secret, okay?
		Because I talk about everything.
		I have already been in meetings with media executives who have outright said corporate networks are going to start taking over the podcasts and locking everybody.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I was part of the first blog movement.
		It was really exciting.
		It was like the Wild Out West.
		And then all of a sudden, all the blogs became corporate monetized.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		For that YouTube person, if you're in there, check out We Are Change on YouTube because also we're dealing with a lot of very serious, horrible things.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		No rural videos come up.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The conversations that I've been having for the past couple of years have escalated quite a bit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And if you take a look at YouTube, you can tell the narratives they want to happen.
unidentified		Oh, of course.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A good example, there's a few people.
		I'm not going to name anybody because this is not for drama points, but there are several people who have skyrocketed in viewership lately based on certain narratives.
		This is because YouTube has decided that is what they want.
		And I'm telling you this: YouTube has decided.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Wait, why wouldn't they?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Of course they do.
		Why is Mr. Beast?
		Why did they put him on the front page every single day?
		It's not an accident.
		There was a woman who.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But there's also like a trending page, and that's no, it's gone.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trending's gone.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Because he's promoting fake meat.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		There was a trending page, and all those videos are someone selected.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't organic.
		Because the funny thing about it is you could go to the trending page and you'd see viral videos that had 200,000 views.
		And Tim Cast our episodes would have more views in less amount of time, but we'd never make it.
		And the first two, I think the first three songs we released were trending massively.
		And then someone went to our channel and turned it off because our songs never trended after that.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And this is part and parcel of how media works.
		For people who don't know, the New York Times bestseller list, they don't even pretend it's sales.
		It's literally curated.
		No one knows the formula.
		And they just put in any order that they want.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what I'm saying is this.
		Timcast is an accident.
		Just like in the early days of piracy and downloading, everyone started doing it.
		They are trying to turn the dial back and say, I don't even think they're really mad that it happened.
		They're just going like, ah, a new phenomenon.
		Let's put a plan together to control it.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that plan is very, very easy.
		You go to YouTube and say, it's called the small room shadow ban.
		This channel cannot be displayed to any new user after this date, which means, so what they'll do is, this is hypothetical.
		Only users who signed up pre-2018 can find, for Luke, it's probably 2012.
		Only users who are pre-2012 can see We Are Change.
		That way, they don't freak out if they don't get it.
		Anyone who joins now will never see one of his videos, no matter what, even if they find the link and click it.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But with Facebook dying out, are the numbers going down on Facebook?
unidentified		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's all boomers.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Young people don't use it.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I haven't been on Facebook in several years.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Daily Wire.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Friends of mine are still posting.
		I'm like, are you like in a deserted island?
		What are you doing?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Daily Wire made most of its money off Facebook articles.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All of these sites did.
		When Facebook said we're not going to share news articles anymore, all these companies lost tremendous amounts of money.
		This was the machine doing it.
		So for those that I see in the chat that are saying, I don't understand what you're saying, let me make it very, very clear for you.
		What is happening right now is TikTok is going to start restricting bad opinions.
		YouTube, Facebook already do.
		These companies are going to decide, probably based on what intelligence agencies want, what the acceptable narrative is.
		And I assure you, it's going to be pro-Israel and pro-Middle Eastern war.
		Just like we saw in the 2000s with Bush, though some dissent will always be allowed.
		Paramounts, be it HBO or NBC, they are going to start going to shows like ours, and they're going to say, you shouldn't be worrying about all this stuff.
		You are a content creator.
		Let the businesses handle it, and we will pay you a premium.
		They will get brought into the fold, and shows that were once independent will now be on the NBC Plus app or the Paramount Plus app.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And when you go on YouTube, there will be shows.
		Those podcasts will exist, but the shows that you know and love from the guy in his basement, like for instance, Nick Fuentes is not in the fold.
		He's on Rumble because Rumble is allowing anybody to make content.
		But there's a reason why he and Alex Jones are banned from YouTube.
		That was a move they made a long time ago.
		That move is going to exacerbate, but it's going to be done mathematically and logically so that you don't get big news about a person being banned.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		But this is just one thing really quick.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Peak headset today said he can't wait until David Ellison takes over CNN.
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michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Larry Ellison.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		No, his son.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Larry Ellison is the father.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Apologies.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		But this is the kind of consolidation that we're seeing here that's terrifying.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		This is something that is just like a no-brainer.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Why wouldn't a group of powerful people do whatever is in their power to seize and maintain their control?
unidentified		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what really bothers me?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's just human nature.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what really bothers me?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Not having a civil war.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Jews aren't doing it.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Speak for yourself.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know you are.
		My point is, and I'm only half joking.
		For a narrative about how the Jews control everything, there's on the front page of YouTube tons of anti-Jew and anti-Israel stuff.
		And I'm sitting there being like, can the Jews just actually do it?
		I'm kidding, by the way.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's 40 chess.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, yeah.
		And then the argument they make is, well, this is the craziest thing.
		For the people who are Israel posting all the time, I ask, how come these people are front page with millions of followers and viewers?
		They say, well, Israel wants it to happen.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And I'm like, that's their argument?
unidentified		Yes.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		I thought Israel is going to build the temple.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I thought the argument was Israel, everyone's waking up so Israel can't stop them anymore.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		No, they want everyone to hate Israel so they can build the temple.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Israel, according to the Messianic era, requires the world to go to war against Israel.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So the argument they make is Israel's intentionally allowing anti-Israel content.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I'm like, so they want people to hate them, so they control the media, and they're putting up the people who hate them to destroy them because they think they're going to win.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		So the good thing about the Jewish faith is at a glance, you can tell how religious somebody is.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Yeah.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		So if you're on the, because if you're on your phone on Saturday, you're not religious because the Ten Commandments is on the Sabbath.
		If you're eating pork, you're not religious.
		Then there's people like Netanyahu who wears the Yarmulka, but he shaves and he doesn't wear all black.
		So there's people he allies with in the Knesset who are the hardcore ones.
		They're the ones who would do what you're talking about.
		Netanyahu is not one of these like Jerry Fallball types who's like, I'm going to bring about the end times.
		And you can see at a glance.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Al Ellison's Jewish.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that true?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's a major supporter of voice stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He only just bought CBS.
		Like these guys couldn't have gone in a long time.
		I'm not saying they should or that I want them to see.
		The moves are happening now.
		They only happened 10 years ago.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I also don't see the difference in any way between the Washington Post and the New York Times.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		They are interchangeable in terms of their worldview.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, except one's going out of business and one's thoughts.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		That's the CIA paper anyway.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Right.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		The point is, one is run by Bezos and one's run by the Souls.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got to be honest.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I only have one problem with the deep state, and it's that they want to make everyone a gay communist.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You don't like the communist part?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I fucking like the gay park.
		I'm kidding.
		No, but the problem with the liberal economic order is that they try to make everyone around the world gay communists.
		And if they didn't do that, they might actually succeed.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well, they stopped doing it, I think.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And I think they use different things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe they'll succeed.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, seriously, if you look at the number of people who are changing their gender, it has gone down.
		If you look at the promotion of this ideology, it has gone down.
		Mainly, I think there's a culture shift, but also I think they played it as long as they could to divide and conquer people.
		They're moving on to the next thing now.
		Which is the next thing, which is no, no, no, no.
		I think it's meant for Muslims and Jews to be the kind of main divide and conquer.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, listen, listen, I somewhat half-jokingly said the left and right of the future will be anti- and pro-Israel.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the reason I said that is because Anna Kasparian and Candace Owens have aligned completely.
unidentified		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so, but we are seeing people who are on the left and on the right now making identical YouTube videos.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yes, but the point is you're looking at it from the internet space.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And in meat space, Anna Kasparian is not a thought leader.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm looking at, I mean, she has cultural relevance.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		She does, but I'm saying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I will stress.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		She doesn't have relevance in the Senate.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She does.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I don't think there's any Democratic senators who are just like, you know, I was going to be for this issue, but Anna Kasparian's on the other side, so maybe I should think twice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The amount of power or relevance she has may be small, but she certainly does have cultural influence.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Young Turks do, absolutely.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Sure, I'm sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And with the movement coming now, and I'm telling you this right now, Netflix already launched their podcasting section.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I am literally having meetings with business execs saying all of the networks are going podcast.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Old network stuff is done.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So like Rachel Maddow cooked.
		Sean Henny launched a podcast.
		Fox is in trouble.
		Fox does not have new talent nor the money to launch in this space.
		So Sean Hennedy launched a podcast.
		Anna Kasparian will have, again, I'm not going to pretend like she's Joe Rogan, but she certainly does have an amount of cultural relevance.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Sure, and so does Joe.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But the point is, despite what Joe's views are about Iran, and he was pitching a fit quite reasonably about it, Trump still did it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, but the media machine is going to absorb these people.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yes, Joe.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then the Senate is going to be like, if I want to win an election, we want these people in these positions.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Here's where I disagree with you.
		I disagree with you.
		I remember, and I think all of us are old enough to remember when the Iraq war was happening.
		It was 24-7, every day of the New York Times headline.
		Obama comes in and just forgot about it.
		Like, I don't even know what the status of Iraq is.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		There was a pushback against neoconservation.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But the point is that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're not going to go on TV and speak ill of the war.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Hold up.
		My point is after the war, we're not hearing updates on what Iraq's like.
		They don't talk about it ever again.
		At a certain point, this Iran-Israel stuff is going to go away.
		So that division's not going to hold?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nothing ever holds.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying right now we are seeing a shift where it used to be woke versus anti-woke as the principal drivers.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's now turned into Erica Kirk versus leave Erica Kirk alone.
		Like these are weird issues that are dominating the viewership in podcasts and social media videos.
		I will say one thing that I think is weird is that the Israel posters have become Kirk posters.
		The people who are making endless videos about Israel and the Third Temple and all the stuff and the Jews running things, they're now producing more and more Erica Kirk videos.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You mean anti-Erica or pro-Erica?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes, anti.
		It's really weird.
		Like by all means, criticize Erica Kirk.
unidentified		I don't care.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can make fun of her.
		You can say whatever you want about her.
		That's not my point.
		My point is, Israel matters on the world stage.
		Erica Kirk does not.
		And I'm not trying to be little Erica Kirk either.
		I'm saying she is not a nation state that receives $2.5 billion from the U.S. government for military expenditures.
		But there are people who used to be like Israel's war in Gaza and the children dying.
		I'm like, these things are important.
		And now they're going, did you see Erica Kirk's leather pants?
		And I'm like, that is not important.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but I think you're underestimating how much, I'm not joking, what I'm about to say, the internet has activated autism.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And the thing with those autistic people, they fixate on things and everything becomes true.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		I'm one of them.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it becomes filtered through that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying it is strange, just on the surface, that people who were talking about geopolitical affairs have shifted to talking about leather pants.
		I'm not saying it shouldn't have happened or it's not probable or that I didn't expect it.
		I'm saying it's just like, what a silly thing for a person to do.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I agree with you, but also this means that we have not had a normal election in this country since 2012.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think 2012 was normal?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		2012, the election?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that was normal.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		How was it not normal?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I suppose if you're arguing the machine state uniparty gave us fake elections the whole time.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That's what I meant.
unidentified		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You stabilized fake elections.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It was very stable.
		Like there were no big surprises.
		It wasn't like, no one woke up.
		We're like, what the F is going on?
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		2008 was cheap.
		You can believe it.
		Remember that one?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
		But 2016 was.
		2020 was.
		2024 was.
		The question is.
		Hold on.
		Let me just say one thing.
		When Trump goes away, is the fever going to break?
		Or there's the band-aid been ripped off and we're on the road to Crazy Train permanently.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I actually, I think we are in a dangerous space.
		We are in civil strife.
		I think that's fair.
		However, I do believe that the machine state has started to kettle the media narratives.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		We even kettle.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		To wrap around and constrain the media narratives, and they're beginning to control what people can see and hear.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they're doing it very, very well.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And why wouldn't they?
		And I've said this for years.
		The enemy class is not going down without a fight.
		And people are like, we got them on the ropes.
		I'm like, guys, they've got so many tools in their toolbox they haven't even tried, including just mass violence and suppression.
		You think that they're going to win with one election?
		You're crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One theory that Luke and I played MelanCon.
		I described it as all the free speech they're allowing now and all of Israel posting and Kirk posting.
		It's leading people out into a plank and they're saying, you're safe on that plank.
		You can stand right there.
		And then as soon as Democrats get back in power and they subpoena these big tech companies, the big tech companies are going to saw that plank off.
		They're going to fall in the water.
		And what's going to happen is they're going to say, all of those videos you made explicitly broke the rules and you know it.
		It's just that they're getting flagged now.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you had always been in violation of the rules.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		They've done that many times before.
unidentified		Indeed.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		This is being promoted.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Luke described it as the cheese and the rat trap.
unidentified		Yeah.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Why wouldn't they?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's why I get frustrated with people that are saying things like, oh, you know, Trump's failed us and we shouldn't vote.
		And I know you're not a voting guy, but people that are like, oh, I'm not going to vote in the upcoming elections because Trump failed this.
		The idea that this was going to be solved in the first year of his second term, which was interrupted by Joe Biden, like that was never going to be a thing.
		But it's never going to be.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		But I have to push back a little bit because there was alternative independent media during his first term that were saying, we have to do something for free speech.
		He didn't do anything for it.
		And then he eventually got banned from social media to the point where you couldn't even play videos of Donald Trump on YouTube.
		You couldn't even do that.
		And we were warning, saying, please do something about free speech.
		That doesn't change.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't change the culture.
		It doesn't change the need to do something.
		It doesn't change the situation we're in right now.
		Just looking back and saying, well, this should have happened.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That should happen.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		He should have learned that.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And I'm changing your voice.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Because I can't worry-wise today.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's talking over here except for me.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm like Luke right now.
unidentified		No.
unidentified		Go ahead.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But the point is, it doesn't change the calculation right now.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't change it at all.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It does because it should be a learning lesson and a stepping stone to proper action to codify free speech, which we should be doing online more than ever.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		This is the number one important issue that we should be moving on.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		None of that can be done if the Democrats take the House and are putting bills to impeach Trump the entire time.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		But it could be done, right?
unidentified		It should be done.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		If there ever was an opportunity, it is now.
unidentified		It won't be after the meeting.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If you can't even get a bill passed that has the most popular support, the SAVE Act.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If you can't even get that passed, there is no way there's going to be a lot of people who are not going to be able to do that.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		But it's not just passed its executive action.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It's also pressurizing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Executive action gets pressed.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It's also disclosure.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Executive action is not available.
unidentified		Executive action is not a problem.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It's also railing at the end of the year.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Executive action gets done.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But as soon as he's not in office anymore, this is the action plan.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		You take the people who did the censorship the first time around in the FBI, in the CIA, and you put them in front of public hearings.
		Why did you destroy this doctor's life for saying natural immunity worked?
		Why did you do this?
		Don't ever do this again.
		You hold them accountable.
		You don't need to pass a law.
unidentified		None of that.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		You don't need the terms.
		That can be done right now.
		You fire them, you prosecute them for violating the First Amendment, and then you hold them accountable.
		And then you make that a key issue so you can preserve free speech right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You guys just can't keep talking at the same time.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		None of that is going to change what Democrats are going to do when they get back into power.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I disagree with you.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Not true at all.
unidentified		Totally.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Some things will change because you only have so much political capital.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		You get rid of their platform that they're on.
		You get rid of their ability to do it again because their soldiers, their foot soldiers, are still in power.
		They're still at the DOJ.
		They're still at the FBI.
		They're still at the CIA.
		You get rid of all those bad players.
		You hold them accountable.
		They're going to have to recruit and start all over again.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		When you say hold them accountable, what do you mean?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Take the people who censored and destroyed our lives and abused the system politically at the FBI, at the CIA, that went to Facebook, that went to Twitter and destroyed our lives and destroyed our friends' lives.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And you say, you give us an explanation why do you do this and we're going to fire you and we're going to make sure this never happens again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, when I go to my chicken city and the chickens are going, boop, do you think I care?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		So you're saying Trump doesn't care?
unidentified		Hold on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Of course, Trump does.
unidentified		Stop.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I disagree.
		Because I think a lot of these people are egomaniacs.
		And I think one of the reasons Mitt Romney decided not to run or go into the Senate is because people kept harassing him on Twitter and calling him an a-hole.
		At a certain point, some of these people who sniff their own farts, it does care if they're disgraced in the public eye.
		For some of them, it's marginal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure, sure.
		I'm saying, and the idea that you're going to go to an unnamed deep state guy and be like, why did you go after my friend that way?
		He's going to look at you as you're saying it, and he's going to lean on and be like, the chickens are talking at me again.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That's what he's saying at all.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
		I'm saying, hold them accountable, fire them.
		You could even charge them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not going to do it and ask them why did they do it?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		No, I say hold public hearings.
		Make a big spectacle out of this, like the church commission hearings that brought out and exposed how the intel agencies were controlling all the big media companies.
		You can do that same again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I hear what you're saying, but I feel like the powers that be will just say, okay, cut off that appendage and bring in a new one.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I mean, wouldn't you say that the stuff that was done for USAID was an actual attempt to do those kind of things?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's what Doge was an attempt to do.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It was successful, and then it was cut off at the feet by Susie Willis, which wasn't good, which was horrible.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The point that I'm making is like, if there's a big change because of USAID and the Doge cuts couldn't make the kind of cuts, why would they be successful by bringing these people in front of Congress?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you why, because there's this expression in politics.
		You don't want to see how the sausage gets made, right?
		So Governor Bogoevich of Illinois was, there was an empty Senate seat when Obama became president, and he's like, okay, what can I get for this seat?
		And this is something every governor goes through.
		They're like, I've got a political opportunity.
		How can I exploit this further my agenda?
		And you don't blame it.
		He went to jail for this because he was in politics.
		Point being, bluepill people, when they see how this stuff happens behind the scenes, a lot of them, especially Karen, freak out, and that makes it harder to put over the next time.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		All of the Biden officials that use their political power to prosecute right-wingers should be held accountable for their actions.
		And you could do that on a lawful level.
		You could do that in a humiliation level.
		You could do that in a level where you just fire them and expose them.
		And they will not have any type of reputation left after they destroyed all of our lives.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And if they lose their ability to make a lot of money by making speeches, you can flip them to turn the guy ahead of them because they'll be like rats off a sinking ship.
unidentified		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not convinced at this point that Trump is interested in those things.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't have to be through Trump.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It could be through Congress.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		We have the majority.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Now we're not going to have it after the midterm.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Even Congress, there's like one real member of Congress, Thomas Massey.
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luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Thomas Massey.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And even then.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And to be fair, the Senate ran Paul a little bit, but I got some more criticism.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You don't have the ability.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The congressional majority was so razor thin.
unidentified		Sure.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They weren't going to be able to do it.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		But they have subcommittees.
		They got Clinton to testify.
		They could get these deep state censorship czars in front of him.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		A year ago, I said to you, Lauren Bobert is going to ask Hillary Clinton about frazzled drip, and you call me crazy.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was like, I don't think that I called you crazy.
unidentified		Atlanta Clinton?
unidentified		They deleted it.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they got to you.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		They did.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Listen, otherwise we could resume.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is there a video of it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is there a video of it?
unidentified		Of what?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Lauren Boebert?
unidentified		Yes.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Mouse.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Listen, there's one option here.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Take the black pill, give up.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Don't.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And allow them and allow them to steamroll us over or fight like your life depends on the future.
unidentified		The president does.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		The whole matters.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The whole point I'm making.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That was literally audio.
lauren boebert ▲ ● ▼		Insurance, life insurance with a zip file titled Frazzled on Chairman Ripple.
unidentified		We're right from the Chairman's ruling.
		Is this within the scope?
		Is this within the scope, Mr. Chairman?
		Mr. Sierra, based on what you said.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, we'll find the real video in a second.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but not the fake lizard one.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Luke, the point that I'm making is that people shouldn't take the black pill because that's what people are doing when they're saying, oh, well, screw it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm just going to give up.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But that's what you just said to me.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		But you just, we need to fight for free speech.
		We need to fight to make sure that all of those people are held accountable.
		And you're saying, no, they're not going to be able to do it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		No, no, I'm saying that I'm not.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm saying that the idea that you're going to get better results by allowing Democrats to take the House in the fall is going to be went for Kathy Newman.
unidentified		What?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		He never said that.
unidentified		Are you aware of your wild?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You want to play the video?
		Let's play the video.
		This is it, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
lauren boebert ▲ ● ▼		Are you aware of any files that were on Anthony Weiner's laptop in a folder that was titled Insurance, Life Insurance with a zip file titled Frazzled?
unidentified		We're right on the Chairman's ruling.
		Is this within the scope?
		Is this within the scope, Mr. Chairman?
		Mr. Chairman, based on what you said in the public hearing, is this within the scope?
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		We can go off to our turn for a moment.
unidentified		Mr. Chairman, is this within the scope?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Go all off the record and consult.
		Yep.
		Prove that's true.
unidentified		They went off the record.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The story is they're calling it a far a conspiracy theory, which probably means it was real.
		We can't read it.
		Which, you know, I guess Michael explained.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		So, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's a debunked far-right conspiracy that emerged in 2018, falsely alleging the existence of a video found in Anthony Weiner's laptop showing Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedeen committing a horrific crime against a child.
		The theory is an extension of the Pizzagate conspiracy and has been completely discredited.
		You know what I was saying before?
		Just like, I'm just let it all, you know, acceleration, like, whatever, let them do it.
		You know what I'm really, really tired of?
		Everything is fake.
		Everything is fake.
		There's so little real going on in the world.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's another technique.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You flood.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And if you have one life preserver and everything else is water, you don't know what's what.
unidentified		Exactly.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And that's why I think that's what I'm saying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But just because, like, the other day on X, Megan Kelly, and Ben Shapiro are just tweeting at each other.
		Then Candace Owens chimes in, and I'm like, who cares?
		Who cares?
		The bickering that is going on between prominent personalities is just so inane and immaterial to our lives and what needs to happen.
		My view of it is largely the machine, your government is in control.
		Turn on American gladiators.
		Here's 50 channels.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		This is WWF.
		Yeah, I know.
		People really invested in Hunk Hogan.
		But now it's political figures.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And that's why I believe things like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Luke, you Caucasian over there with your shirt.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Caucasian man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Enough of that.
unidentified		Yeah.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Or you just start a QAnon conspiracy theory, which I think also was a major scenario.
unidentified		It was a lot of people.
unidentified		It was a lot of people.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It was run probably by Epstein and other individuals meant to obfuscate the real type of legitimate crimes that were happening together.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, if you don't believe in Frazzle Drip, that means you're in on it.
unidentified		Right.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		QAnon was a psychopath to keep people complacent from actually doing anything.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They were being told, don't worry, the secret intel are there to protect you and they're working on it.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Trump's going to go after the traffickers.
		All the people who hurt children are going to be held responsible for it.
		Trust the plan.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Massed arrests.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Hillary Clinton's in Guantanamo Bay.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		The deep state is going to be held responsible for messaging meetings.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Michael, let me ask you: wouldn't you just rather?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		John McCain was executed in a secret tribunal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wouldn't you just rather take the $20 million to just play ball?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		In what context?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, just, you know, just say Israel's great and the war is necessary.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I took the 20 million.
		That's why I'm here.
		To undermine the whole show and make you guys think Frazzle Drip.
		But she was not what's watching.
		He's not crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's the other point.
		It doesn't matter that we have never accepted money.
		People will claim it anyway.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're Russia.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So whether you do or don't, there are people threatening to murder me because they think I'm either funded by Israel, by the deep state, or by Russia.
unidentified		Yep.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I was on Rogan's show, and Rogan said, okay, it's really clear that Epstein had ties with international intelligence, with Mosada CIA.
		And I go, I saw in Drudge, it was Russia.
		He's like, Russia.
		I go, I've never heard this before, but Drudge, which is obviously a major news organization page, had headlines, Russian involvement with Epstein files.
		And Rogan's like, really?
		He pulls it up.
		There's the Drudge headline.
		He asks AI.
		AI's like, okay, he tried to secure a meeting with Putin to sell out Trump.
		He went to Russia to get hookers.
		Online, you tried to change the subject.
		I'm like, this was the subject.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		He was talking about the future of Syria, and he was talking and trying to prop up with Bill Gates' friend, the opposition in Russia as well.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Oh, look, you tried to change the subject from Israel.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's like, not only is everyone...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are you trying to claim Israel's not doing it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are you deflecting right now?
unidentified		I'm deflecting.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, while that discussion is happening, we're missing the bigger piece of like Robert Maxwell, who literally stole American secrets, sold it to Israel, and no one really talks about that issue at all.
		And that's another big issue that deserves our attention.
		But we're not talking about that.
		We're talking about this type in the weeds crazy stuff that deflects from the actual legitimate criticisms that need to be had here.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And also, I don't believe we got Maduro because he's going to reveal the truth about the 2020 elections.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we got Maduro because Trump needed a stable oil supply before he attacked Iran.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I also think, here's my Timfoil hat.
		I think it's perfectly plausible that Maduro's in on it.
		And we sat him down.
		We're like, look, we're going to go in and take you out.
		Are we going to take you out and put you on a vacation?
		What do you want?
		He's like, okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's the tales of an economic hitman.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Is that right?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, Luke knows all about it.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		No, I interviewed the author.
		And we had a long, extensive conversation as he talked about this supra government that controls the shots internationally with the World Bank and the IMF that go to these leaders and they say, do you want the bullet?
		Or do you want to work with us?
		And a lot of them choose to work with them, sell their national resources.
		His book was profound.
		I remember reading it as a kid.
		I had the honor of interviewing him about a year ago at the Bitcoin conference, oddly enough.
		And he says it's still going on.
		I asked him, I was like, did it stop?
		He's like, no, it expanded and it's even more coercive and it's even more manipulative than we even could imagine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm over here, you know, defending Israel.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I've not been invited to go on one of these pilgrimages like a bunch of these influencers.
unidentified		Come on.
unidentified		What am I?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Chopped lips.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I got a fire trip.
unidentified		Did you really?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I did get offered a trip.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I'm like, there's no way I'm going to do it.
unidentified		Why wouldn't you go there?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Then why are you wearing a yarmulke?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can't see it.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		You didn't have a mien nanyahu.
unidentified		I did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And he lobbied us to support the war for Iran, and the room was split and didn't want to do it.
		Some people in the room were very much like, dude is wild.
		Like one person looking at him and going, like, the American people and Gen Z need to understand the brotherly relationship Israel and America have and why we must support each other.
		And I'm just in there going, like, oh my god.
		Like, like, look, if you said something.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You forget, we're so used to memes and trolls.
unidentified		I know.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Earnest people exist.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You know, same contract.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		You better say something.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You say things that are so insane so unironically.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Like, how do you even talk?
unidentified		I think we should.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, as a media organizer, I don't remember.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just can, but there were a bunch of people there, and I know it was Chatham House Rules, which no one knows what that means.
unidentified		I do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		And the people thought it meant that it was off the record in secret when it literally meant we can explain literally everything said, just not who said it.
		And then who was it?
		Hasn't had it came in filming.
		And so I was like, I guess there's no Chatham House Rules because she's like, you know.
		And then people posted pictures.
		But if you went, if you were at this meeting, like, I think there was maybe like 15 people there.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Well, I orchestrated it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Michael's one of them.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he's in the middle of the day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But if you were to say something like, if you were to say something like, look, America has its own interests, but Israel's alliance with us is important because we need a stable foothold in the region.
		For that reason, there is going to be an overlap in our agendas, which I think is mostly true.
		I think an average person might be like, well, that's reasonable.
		But if you say we have a brotherly love relationship, so we have to defend you for this ideological reason, you sound nuts.
		But I think when you talk to religious people, I think that's a very, they really have a very different worldview than I think the important thing for everyone to understand is there's several factors as to why the U.S. and Israel have this relationship.
		One of which absolutely is Israel exerting influence through resources, money to try and get politicians on their side.
		But evangelicals in this country want the same thing the Messianic Jews want with the Fourth Temple.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I think evangelicals are more Zionists than Jews as a population.
unidentified		Probably.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We went over this some time ago when we've been talking about the Red Heifer and all of these things.
		There are Americans.
		There are American Christians.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I haven't heard about the Red Heifer since I was in yeshiva, like when I was six.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's non-stop.
unidentified		Oh my god.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They've been breeding these things like crazy.
		And so what we point out is people are like, why is America so pro-Israel?
		Because there are devout evangelical Americans who want Jesus to come back.
		And very similar to the people.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That's a precondition, yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A precondition that the Jews share for their first Messiah.
		Christians share for the return of their Messiah.
		Not all Christians believe it's not all Jews, but there are powerful people who do, and that is just one factor.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And there's also, this is a relic of the Cold War because both the Soviet Union and the U.S. recognized Israel within minutes.
		It was founded by hardcore socialists, although now there's like no socialists in the Israeli parliament.
		There's like five of them.
		It's gotten all right wing.
		Point being, so this was a big kind of fight between who's going to control Israel and their football in the Middle East.
		We won.
		All those Muslim countries sided much more with the Soviet Union, and the Soviet Union's gone, obviously, but that kind of shepherds played a major role with the Belfast.
		People should also ask, obviously.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's some other questions for the region that I think are important too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And one is, why won't Egypt open up their border with Gaza?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You know why?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Real quick, the other question is, why are we giving billions to Egypt for military aid?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I think one important factor beyond the evangelical, and there are others, is that the United States, the liberal economic order, wants strong military control of the Suez and the Red Sea for which Israel provides.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And you can't blame them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		That's why Trump wants Panama.
		That's why he wants Greenland.
		And that's why Israel is so important to the U.S. military grand scheme because controlling global trade and policing the seas is how we maintain the petrodollar.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And Alex Jones agreed with me yesterday.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		How do you not agree with that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, there are people who say it's not true.
		They say that, no, we're just being blackmailed and controlled by Israel against our will.
		And it's like, well, listen, certainly there are influence operations from Israelis against the U.S. Absolutely.
		But the U.S. is not, the U.S. is basically like, listen, we must control all of the sea's waterways.
		That means we need Turkey.
		Why is Turkey in NATO?
		The Bosphorus.
		That's it.
		We want black sea access to the Mediterranean.
		It's control of oil distribution.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		The other thing is, this is like when the people say all these Republican senders are bought and paid for by the NRA.
		It's like, really?
		You think someone from Wyoming is pro-gun control and then the NRA gives them a suitcase?
		They're like, oh, crap, now I'm against gun control.
		Like, what are you talking about?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think it was Rubio who was yelled at by an activist saying, you're bought and paid for by the NRA.
		And he was like, no, I'm pro-gun.
		They ducked my campaign because I am pro-gun.
		Not the other way around.
unidentified		Yeah.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I question that theory because of the kind of donor class here, because if we're really fighting for American hegemony, that's different comparatively to people just robbing the sinking ship.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		I think robbing the sinking ship is more of a true analogy of what's going on here.
unidentified		I agree.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Because if we really wanted to prop up the petrodollar, we would make a deal with Iran.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Iran was previously selling oil on the U.S. dollar system.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why?
		Why were they doing that?
		Because Obama cut a deal with that.
unidentified		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did it work?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well, Trump stopped the deal.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well, Trump cut it off.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it wasn't working anyway because they were still attacking in the region.
		So I think it was, I can't remember who brought up the Bill Burr quote that it's like, should we go to war with Iran?
		Probably not.
		But no reason.
		Really?
		Like, no reason.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I know that joke.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There are many reasons why we want to fight Iran.
		Doesn't mean we should.
		But I think this is principally the U.S. economy is propped up by the petrodollar by forcing other countries to use our currency.
		Saudi Arabia cuts a deal with us, which gives them tremendous leverage.
		That's why when a lot of dirty, nasty things happen from the Saudis, particularly like their couple billion 9-11, we cover for them because we are scared they will get off the contract of the petrodollar as the second largest oil producer in the world.
		We need them to tell other countries if you want oil, it's in U.S. dollars.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but the U.S. is also like the most legitimate security guarantee.
		Like the Chinese had made a lot of security guarantees to Venezuela.
		They made a lot of security guarantees to Iran.
		And the whole world has seen that you can't rely on China.
		No matter what China says, if they say, oh, you know, we'll help you out and stuff.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But to the second face.
		Are you okay?
		What's wrong?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The top polymarket account.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is a totally derailed, if you want to know, $22 million in profit, and the account is basically inactive.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Insider, baby.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		Who knows?
		But Luke was mentioning that people will change their names.
		They'll go in, they'll do something, and then they'll change their names.
		That's wild.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Wow, sorry.
unidentified		Sorry.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		We're going to derail.
		I got one thing to derail really quick, if that's okay.
		I've been dying to say this.
		I want to add this to what Alice was saying.
		On August 9th, 2019, the day before Epstein died, the Southern District of New York, the SDNY, the federal government, released a statement about Epstein's death the day before.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they argued it was a typo.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the typo was the full date spelled out.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was like was it February 9th or something?
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luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		February 9th.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		He died on February 13th.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't like they went like 2-9.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they're like, I typed the wrong number in.
unidentified		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was spelled out Friday, February 9th or whatever, like whatever.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Was it a real story when they just posted that on my phone?
		You saw his Fortnite account?
		Was that real or fake?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		No, people could set up fake Fortnite accounts.
		And you can't fall for everything that you're seeing.
		That's why I was asking.
		And there's a ton of disinformation.
		There's a ton of fake photos.
		There's a ton of AI regarding the Epstein files that are just completely not true.
		I've been covering it like crazy.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		He wasn't doing oral with Destiny.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This guy lost $6.5 million this month.
unidentified		Damn.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		Not inside.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		What were we saying, Phil?
unidentified		It's not inside.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't just connect that.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The fact of the matter is that China wanted to be a basically give security guarantees.
		And the war in Iran and the invasion of Iraq, or invasion of Iraq and what's going on in Venezuela has proven that China can't be trusted.
		And that's one of the actual benefits, one of the things that the U.S. is really getting out of this whole thing is they're proving that China is a paper tiger and that the rest of the world can't rely on.
		They're going to be like, look, you can go and build some things in Africa.
		And honestly, the things that they're building, they're not particularly robust.
		Like the things they build are pretty crappy.
		like the rest of the world is looking at china and they're saying do we want to go and align with china or do we want to align with the u.s that's part of the reason why the u.s is is the police of the the the trade routes and stuff is because the u.s is a reliable actor china's not They don't have the power to do it.
		They don't have the ability to do it.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		The U.S. is the police because the U.S. is the bodyguard.
unidentified		Yeah.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		So you can hire, people don't know this.
		If you're like a company or if you're like a country, you can hire the U.S. to basically be like, if things go wrong, we'll come in and kick ass for you.
		We're for sale.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And I mean, look, there are people that don't like that, and I get it, but the U.S. standard of living is directly attached to that.
		Like the fact that poor people in the U.S. are overweight, people that decide that they want to be homeless, they don't want to actually do the things necessary to have a home, they still have cell phones.
		They have like, they have DoorDash accounts and stuff.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, wait, wait.
		Ian's not homeless.
		He just looks that way.
unidentified		He does.
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luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Plus, our food is heavily processed.
unidentified		So people don't know what to do.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		But the point is, our standard of living will drop significantly if the petrol dollar goes up.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		By the way, speaking of what you just said, I had Julian Michaels on my show this week, YouTube.com, Michael Miles official.
		I did not realize, and everyone who's in Maha is laughing at me.
		I did not realize how, as I drink my Dr. Pepper, I did not realize how bad the food situation is.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It's horrible.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I really thought this is a good idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, glyphosate is great.
unidentified		Trump talks about it.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		You go to a gas station, you look at the ingredients, and you can't get anything that's like all natural.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you have to go to like sprouts, I thought a lot of this was just like, you know, hippie talk, and it's not.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		No, it's a eugenics operation against the American people.
		There's no care and consideration for the American people.
		That's my argument.
		And I think this is where some of our disagreements are at.
		I think the elites don't give a damn about us and they just want to enslave us.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have a funny family story for everybody who has young children.
		So we went grocery shopping today.
		And at the checkout, they had these protein pastries that it was like low-carb, high-protein Pop-Tarts.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Seed oil.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the ingredients are just like, it may as well say cardboard.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I bought it because I was like, this sounds good.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I love cardboard.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then as we're walking out, my wife is pushing the stroller with our one-year-old.
		And I open it up and it's a brown sugar cinnamon.
		I take a bite.
		And then I was like, oh, no, no, I'm sorry.
		I opened it up.
		I said, you want to try the fake Pop-Tart?
		And she's like, yeah, sure.
		And our daughter's looking at me going, she bites it, hands it to me.
		I bite it.
		And then she just starts wailing like the craziest cry, like, you're having food and you wouldn't give me any.
		And I was like, the problem is it's not food.
		And I can't explain this to her.
		But the ingredients are like erythritol and like processed protein.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And like cinnamon, kids don't like cinnamon, you gave birth to a food critic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I told my, like, my wife was like, if it was real food, we'd give her some, but it's not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then she was like, why did you buy this?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And I was like, oh, this reminds me of a funny story.
		When I was like three or four, my grandma would be coming home and I didn't know how to read.
		And she was Russian.
		And I'd want her to get me the red Tic Tacs because they're cherry.
		Red's cherry.
		And she's like, you don't like these?
		I'm like, and she'd get me them and I'd put it in my mouth like it's on fire.
		And I think this happened like three times.
		Like I was just like, I want the red ones.
		She's like, it's not good.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then you take it and go, ah.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because cinnamon when you're a kid is a nightmare.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People like light cinnamon in a cake is good.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But again, when you're four, eating a cinnamon candy is not, especially when you think it's going to be cherry.
		You know, it's, you know, Reagan.
		I read Reagan's autobiography and the two things I remember, one's not important, but the second one is also not important.
		It's funny, which is he never liked tomatoes because when he was a kid, he bit into one thinking was an apple and it traumatized him so much.
		He never ate tomatoes again.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, Scientologists call that an aberration.
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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And this is the doorway they bring people into Scientology.
		This is one of the key examples they use to convince people that their ideology is correct is that they'll say, is there something in your life that you know to be irrational, but you retain?
		Perhaps an aversion to a food?
		They literally describe it as, you may not want to eat eggs because as a child, you ate one egg, but it turned out to be rotten.
		And now you don't want eating eggs.
		You have an aberration because you know eggs are actually a normal food everyone eats, but you have an aversion to them because of one instance.
		Then they say, our program will cure you of these aberrations.
		And maybe they will.
unidentified		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But that's right.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I got to ask Luke because I know Luke has receipts on this and I know this has been well established.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		There are strong links between the CIA and Scientology, correct?
unidentified		Yes.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And the Mormon community as well.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Really, the Mormons?
unidentified		Yeah.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Not since the beginning, though.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Can you explain that?
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you look at a lot of the kind of intelligence agencies, they have one kind of overall general kind of theme, and they usually like Mormons.
		Yeah, a lot of kind ofs here.
		But the Scientology link also is theorized a lot on this.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		Okay.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Malice, I have a question for you.
		I find Thomas Massey to be one of the most genuine guys, non-corrupt politicians.
		Why is Trump going after him?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Because he doesn't kiss his ass.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm sorry.
		I will agree with you in the most part.
		Going on CNN and saying Trump's a racist, that's not genuine.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I didn't see that.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he did that.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		So that I was like, and it's funny because I tweeted about it and everyone's like, okay, rare alpha Thomas.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He said Trump was racist?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		He said Trump should apologize to the Obamas for using racist tropes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, over the monkey thing?
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's not good.
		And I will say this of Thomas Massey.
		I've been very critical of him a lot.
		However, I do think he has a tremendous amount of integrity.
unidentified		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's what I give him credit for.
unidentified		That's what I was asking.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Because Trump thinks I'm the president and all these Republicans are there because of me.
		So how dare you not fall in line and basically act like you're the president?
		That's Trump's perspective.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But basically, there's no Republican majority because of Massey.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That's another thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's why a lot of people are really mad at him.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But also, he's embarrassing Trump by being like, this bill is insane.
unidentified		It's huge.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And you were supposed to bounce the budget or at least cut spending.
		He's like, what are you talking about?
		And he's blowing up Trump's spot.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Well, the Epstein stuff as well.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		A lot of the Epstein-connected people are financing his opponent.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That guy they brought on stage, everyone's ragging on him.
		Even Nick Sortor was ragging on him.
		And they were like, you're not MAGA anymore.
		It's like, guys, I don't care if I'm MAGA or not MAGA or whatever.
		I like Thomas Massey.
		I like Rokana.
		I disagree with them both a lot.
		I disagree with Rokana a lot more.
unidentified		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But Rokana's been very nice and respectful despite being wrong.
		And he probably thinks I'm wrong.
		And that's the way it's supposed to be in this country.
unidentified		Yeah.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Supposed to is a bluepill term.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
		My point is we should be able to sit down and debate each other and function as a society.
		And we don't have to agree on everything.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That's fair.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I said this to Roe, that his worldview is based upon being the child of immigrants.
		So he sees the benefits of immigration through that lens.
		And I, as an American, see the inverse and think he's wrong.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I'm an immigrant, and I think he's wrong.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm saying in his worldview, he's pointing it out.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Rokana has been really nice, but he's got terrible, terrible images.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Of course, Jose Federman.
		Like, I understand that I will not agree with everybody all the time.
		And there are staunch conservatives I don't agree with, but we get along.
unidentified		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		As long as we agree on what's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, if we could agree on what's true.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But even if you don't agree on what's true, if someone's amiable and is having a decent conversation, it's perfectly fine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I find to be that the overwhelming majority of Democrats are not.
		They lie, cheat, and steal.
		They play dirty games to win.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		What's the Millennial Woes quote?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They pretend not to understand things to make discourse impossible.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you see the latest meme?
		It was like a recursion meme where someone said something, a leftist countered, they responded with the millennial woes meme, and then the person responded with, I still don't understand your point.
		And it was like, ah!
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		The new one I saw online is that the SAVE Act, in order to prove your identity to vote, you can't use your marriage license because your marriage license doesn't match your name on your birth certificate.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And even if that were true, who has ever used their marriage license to establish their identity?
unidentified		Nobody.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Like, what are you talking about?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But they're repeating this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, they're just lying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're also saying the ID doesn't count.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't make sense even on their own terms.
		I suppose that is true.
		Who cares?
		The other point they make is like, oh, it's impossible for people in cities to get driver's licenses because the tests are onerous.
		That's nice.
		Get a walker ID like I have.
		You don't need any tests for that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like you're just lying.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That's the term, yeah.
unidentified		Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just call them IDs.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I think you can drive now.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I'm still spiting the internet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, I actually think the response is exactly what he said.
unidentified		And.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When they're like, yeah, but what if a woman who's got a maiden name has changed?
		I go, uh-huh.
		You're like, well, what about it?
		I'm like, what about it?
		Well, what if she can't vote?
		I'm like, she'll have to figure out, I guess.
unidentified		Good luck.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's nonsensical.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And they know it's nonsensical.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Malice the passenger princess.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And a pillow princess.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		There's a question from Grock for you.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		With AI exploding right now.
unidentified		What?
unidentified		Do you think decentralized?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Can I tell a Lex story?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Can I tell you that story?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can tell a Lex story.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		I was sitting talking to the head of podcast one.
		I hired Krishna walking by.
		I'd say in his 50s.
		He stops me and goes, oh, aren't you on a podcast?
		And whenever people spot me and they don't know my name, I say I'm Lex Friedman.
		So we have a nice conversation, blah, blah, blah.
		And he leaves.
		His underling comes back like 10 minutes later, goes, you just met my guru, he said.
		I go, yeah.
		He goes, can you interview him?
		And I go, no, like kind of nastily.
		And he walked away.
		So Lex is going to have a lot of really bad karma today because all Harry Krishna is going to be praying for him to become a lizard.
		Which I guess might be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that what they do?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Which might be an upgrade from a robot.
		Well, they're big on karma.
		That's why they're vegans.
		They don't kill even insects or some extreme versions.
		So that's their theory.
		It's like, be kind because you're going to be rewarded something better.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've months.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I knew a Hari Krishna guy.
unidentified		He was very nice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He gave me a bunch of free stuff.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like free food and stuff.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he was very good.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Why did they recruit you?
unidentified		Yeah.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Probably Wall Street.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, he wasn't trying to recruit us.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You don't know that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, yeah, maybe.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		He's laying the groundwork.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, for sure, for sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Me and my friends got to go have a free meal and hang out, and he was super chill, and it was a lot of fun.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's a very, I like, I like Buddhism because it's a very, in many ways, calming, centering, like calm down, meditative, yeah, philosophy.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Do you meditate?
unidentified		No.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I can't handle calmness.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Like a Zen breath works.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Breathworks across the world.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are you familiar with the Apple visualization meme?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I call it a meme, but it's actually.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, the concept.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's pull this one up because we'll talk about the philosophical NPC and all that stuff.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Sure, let's do it.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Don't you think people should go to unwantedbook.com and buy my graphic knowledge?
unidentified		Absolutely.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		What's your opinion on people who drive with their windows up with a mask on by themselves?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I'm an anarchist, anything that's peaceful, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what number would you give yourself, Michael?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I'm clearly a one.
unidentified		You're clearly a one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Luke, what do you think one?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Phil.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		One, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Robbie.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		No, they're not asking about looks, Phil.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		They want to know about this meme.
unidentified		Listen.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I'm extremely attractive.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Number two.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Extremely attractive.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Wait, seriously?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are you sure?
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		I haven't even, I just.
unidentified		Oh, do you picture it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you see a photorealistic apple?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A flat two-dimensional apple, black and white.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Close your eyes.
		Imagine an orange.
		Let's ask him an orange because describe the orange.
		Is it like a picture of an orange or a photograph?
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		It's a photograph.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You want to know what I just thought of as soon as you said that?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Israel?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it was you standing on this table juggling oranges.
unidentified		Okay.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, I just was a juggler.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Everyone who knows how to skateboard also knows how to juggle.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can juggle.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I actually learned how to do this.
		Like, I can do like two juggles.
		I can do the basic one everyone can do.
		But there's another one that I learned.
		I forgot what it was.
		There's the one where you throw the ball to your hand and then up and then over.
		I can't do that one, but there's two that I can do where it's like you throw it and then wrap it around or something.
unidentified		Okay.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Whenever I think of the Apple, I always think of like the shine and I think of where the light is actually shining.
unidentified		Oh, okay.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Are you an artist?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I'm a musician.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		No, but I meant like the visual.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That's the artistic brain.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I wanted to draw when I was a kid, but I never thought that I was very good at it.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It sounds like you're seeing it like an artist.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I always see like the light.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		For some reason, whenever I picture it, I always think of it kind of like the way the universal earth moves, and I kind of see it moving through my head.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, there's more than that stuff.
		This is an incomplete picture of cognitive function.
		Alongside this, when you think, Michael, do you hear words in your head?
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Can you see text in your head at the same time?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I can, but I don't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So there's actually multiple tracks, and this is just one of them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So aside from being able to visualize the apple at level one and see the photo realistic apple in your head, there are people who could simultaneously imagine the apple in their head while it rotates, like Phil was just saying, splits in half, opens up the seats inside while they're listening to a song in their head, while they're planning the rest of their day and seeing words.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yes, called being high.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Being in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But you were talking before the show about the NPC meme, and then we mentioned the Philosophical Zombie, and we were talking about AI and stuff.
		That's why I brought this up.
		I thought it'd be interesting to have a conversation around that.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think I was just talking about this with the trigonometer guys in the same way that I think all of us, if there's a concept one of us had, we could explain it to the others.
		Maybe you'd have some questions, but you'd be able to explain it.
		But we sat down with a nuclear physicist, like it would be just gibberish, and maybe we'll understand it through analogies, but we're not going to get it like they do.
		People understand that, but there's someone who's dumber than you, and they don't process information like on sitcoms where they know fewer facts or just take slower.
		They literally perceive data differently than you do.
		As a good example is when they read, instead of seeing sentences, they just see words as a soup and they reconnect them.
		The first time I noticed this, I was doing a talk and I met this girl who was writing at the time for Jezebel.
		And she's like, who are you?
		And I tell her, I'm like, oh, you know, Harvey P. Carr is writing a book about me.
		And he goes, oh, did he die?
		He's yes.
		Okay.
		Her boyfriend sits down and she immediately says, this is one minute later.
		This is Michael.
		Harvey Peecard died and then Michael wrote a book about him.
		So she was taking the nouns and verbs and her brain reconnected it.
		And it's not like she couldn't hear me.
		It's not like she wasn't like a complete simpleton.
		I'm like, and you see this all the time on social media.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And they're not faking it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So there was this.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		And one more example.
		My buddy Tom Woods, his Twitter.
		I was the best man at his wedding.
		His Twitter bio says, New York Times best-selling author.
		Someone came after him and goes, you write for the New York Times.
		So of course you're going to have this opinion.
		Because they saw those words and they didn't process them like a normal person would.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When I was a teenager, my parents had been telling me I should plan for college, figure out where I wanted to go.
unidentified		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I read an article from an economist who think he worked for the Bush administration or Clinton.
		I can't remember which one.
		And it's a story I've told in the show where he said something to the effect of, if you went to an investor and said, for $40,000, after four years, you will owe me $40,000 plus interest.
		Do you think the investor would take that deal?
		They're going to absolutely not.
		And that's what we're telling everyone to go into college for.
		That was the basis by which I said, this doesn't make much sense.
		He elaborated by saying that if you started at 18 years old working at McDonald's, after four years, on average, people find themselves as shift supervisors or sometimes assistant managers, and you will have saved on average $10,000.
		Whereas the college grad will get out after four years with nothing.
		On top of that, so that's usually where I stop and tell the story.
		But he went on to say additionally that college, the problem with college is that in order to actually thrive, your IQ needs to be in excess of 110.
		Unfortunately, we are telling people with IQs ranging from 95 to 105.
		And what happens is they may memorize words that you ask them to, but their brains can't process the connections between the data.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		So this is the midwits.
		And here's the other thing.
		Like the name of my show is You're Welcome.
		And they'll say it's misspelled because you're welcome as Wild UpRE.
		Because they know the rules, but they don't know the context of the rules or why the rules are there.
		So if I really want to hit him hard, I could be like, a proper noun, which is a show title, cannot be misspelled.
		If your name is spelled with four M's and I spell with one M, I'm misspelling it indeed because Tim Correct.
		But then I say, this is your welcome to embarrass yourself in public.
		And they still don't get it.
		Because all they do as a computer is just apply the rule, not understanding why that rule exists, or that's method for the communication.
Inner Monologue Rock Vote 00:03:23
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then they go vote.
		So let me tell you why I'm in favor of the SAVE Act.
		When Dick Durbin goes, well, it's going to make it very hard for people to register to vote because sometimes your ID doesn't qualify.
		I say, stop.
		You had me at it.
		It's going to make it harder to vote.
		Thank you and have a nice day.
		So what the Democrats rely on is that people who are either incapable of registering to vote or disinterested in voting in general are made to vote.
		There's two ways to do it.
		The expansion, of course, was universal mail-in voting.
		Before this, it was like rock the vote, which I actually did when I was 21.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You rocked the vote?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I went to, it wasn't rock the vote.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It might have been rocked the vote.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It was rock the vote.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I went to a death camp for QT concert.
		I was given, so they were my favorite band at the time, and they're still one of my favorites, but I'm here you said.
		Death Camp for QT.
unidentified		Okay.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I worked, I was a nonprofit fundraising.
		They said, who wants to go and do a voter drive at the Death Cab concert?
		And I went, what?
		And they were like, yeah, the Death Camp for QT concert in Chicago.
		We want someone to go register people to vote.
		And I was like, done.
		And they gave me a pass that I didn't even realize was all access until after they gave it to me.
		And it was one of those leg sticker all access.
		And so I was like, absolutely.
		I got to meet the band.
		It was very cool.
		And all I had to do was walk around registering people who didn't know or care to vote.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then those people who don't know or care about what's going on in the world will be told to go vote.
		And they'll go, oh, yeah, sure, I guess.
		I think the bare minimum we can do is make it so that you have to at least get up and go do it.
unidentified		Yeah.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		No shit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's why I think the Save Act is good.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But I think you underestimate how left-wing this country is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		I understand that it's not a stop.
		It's not going to save everything.
		I'm just saying it's a little better.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
unidentified		A little better.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		we see what happens because the people who can't what is it Like 30% of people have no inner monologue?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Is it that I thought 30% people don't have a sense of humor or can't perceive humor?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's find the actual number.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That was Scott Adams' point.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		While you look up this point, going back to my point of the guy driving in his car with the mask on with the windows up, do you think those people are real?
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Is it part of the simulation messing with us?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Or do you want to get into the mechanical elves, all that stuff?
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		I mean, sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		30 to 50%.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		So the theory is in the same.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		We're talking about NPCs, so I thought I'd bring it up.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if I took a photograph of you, right, and I held it right on my desk, this is a 2D representation of a 3D person, right?
		So you're in two places at once.
		You're in the photo, and then you're here in MeatSpace.
		So the theory is this is a 3D representation of a 4D space, which we can't perceive, just that photograph can't perceive you, right?
		Well, then you can perceive the photograph.
		And some of the quote-unquote people around us aren't there in 4D.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
unidentified		Bro.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		So they literally don't exist.
unidentified		What?
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		They're messing with you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Only on average, people experience.
		So the idea of an inner monologue is not black or white.
		Some people.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I thought it was just a white thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, sure.
		It is not zero or one.
		They say that inner speech occurs 25% of the time on average across people.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		With 5 to 10% never experiencing an inner monologue.
		This means that they say it is interpreted as 30 to 50% regularly not having an inner monologue because of the bell curve.
		Basically, there are people who always do experience it, and there are people who never do, but most people experience it only about 25% of the time.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		51% of the population has no inner monologue because they're incapable of shutting the F up.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		They're called women.
Thinking Words Are Not Binary 00:03:31
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Do people that like, if you talk to yourself, because usually I find myself, like, I'll be thinking things and I'm, you know, thinking the words and stuff.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I've talked to myself.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		A lot of times I'll just be walking around.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		If you're by yourself in your house, you talk out loud, don't you?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Sometimes I'm not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't talk loudly.
unidentified		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And I felt like that was kind of like I don't talk out loud.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		That'd be like an outer monologue.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		There's no time you shut up.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You're always talking.
unidentified		You're talking when you're asleep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm just thinking words in my head, I guess.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		My friend Tibby, who was on Cash Cab with me, the funny story, she was in a deli and she's looking at the watermelon and she says out loud, doesn't realize she goes, $20 for watermelon.
		And she realized that out loud.
		And then in a louder voice, she goes, fine, let them think I'm crazy.
unidentified		I don't care.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		You were on Cash Cab?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Randomly?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not a random.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We have only a few minutes left because we're having so much fun.
		I got to get these Rumble Ranch and Super Chats.
		So we're trying to get as many as we can.
		Smash the like button, share the show.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Are you going to tell them to buy my graphic novel?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You will.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		How much did you win on Cash Cab?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Mythos says, Hey, Michael, so do you talk to cops now?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I always talk to cops because at any moment, if they're in a bad mood, they can throw me in the back of the car.
		So I'm always very polite, respectful when I see them on the street.
		I've been stopped here in Austin repeatedly.
unidentified		Bazooka's family.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		No, they're fans.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		They're like, hey, blah, blah, blah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bazooka, really?
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bazooka Guru says, so I just tuned in, but people on account are saying Netanyahu is dead.
		Anyway, longtime listener and first-time commenter.
		Love you guys.
		Probably just wackaloo nonsense, I'm sorry to say.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Anna Kasparian tweeted, wait, is Netanyahu dead yet?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So, okay, great.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Same old man says, Tim, Malice is right.
		The Republicans do not have the Senate.
		The GOP has it, and they are composed of reps, Dems, and Libertarians.
		Fair point.
		Let's see what we got here.
		DeAndre says, Tim, Fox got the Ruthless podcast for their podcast space late last year.
		Indeed, they did.
		They also hired Brett Cooper as a Fox hype recouper?
		A while ago.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so Ruthless they bring in periodically.
		The thing about Fox is, I'm going to let you guys in on all the inside as well.
		As I've heard, I don't know if it's true, but the scuttle butt from the net from the buyers is that Fox is broke.
		They can't afford to get into the space.
		They are interested and they're shopping around, but they don't have the resources of CBS.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe that for a second.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I can prove that's not Murdoch.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		The family has deep pockets, but they did get rid of their number one new show, Terry Carlson.
unidentified		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There are other venues by which Murdoch is approaching this, but Fox is a different company.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There are many Murdoch companies.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		The Fox viewer is insanely loyal.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		They watch Fox an average of 25 hours a day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They are 80 years old.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But they're not fine.
		My point is, they're not broke.
		I don't believe it.
		How much was that Dominion thing that they paid out?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was a billion, two billion dollars.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Just a couple of billion.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, but hold on, hold on.
		We got to clarify here.
		They are relatively low budget compared to everyone else.
unidentified		True.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying they're about to go to business in America.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		When you say broke.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My point was they don't have the money to invest in this space the way other people do.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They are constrained.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		But I think also their model.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like CBS is swimming.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Their model is because they have their, their model is like Vince McMahon's model of the WWF.
		They have their stable, like for Fox people to do non-Fox shows, like when Kat was on your show, it's an ask.
		It's not something automatic because their idea is: if you want to watch a Fox personality, you have to watch them on Fox News.
		And it's a model that somewhat works for them and makes a lot of sense.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's see.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Yeti says, Tim, ask anyone who says they can't visualize or that they don't have an inner voice if they dream or if they can count down from 10 in their head.
Korean Media Business Models 00:08:04
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Everyone has an inner voice and can visualize.
		Incorrect.
		That's the point.
		Some people can't.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Can I say one more thing?
		Whenever people say everyone, I leave the conversation.
		Because if there's one thing I'm against, it's this idea of universalism that we're all basically wired the same.
		And if you think about it for two seconds, you realize how ridiculous it is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't want to say this to be mean, but you're an idiot.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I hate you.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Michael, you're familiar with the orders of thinking?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Of course, yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so ordered thinking can't understand that the way an individual experiences the world is different from someone else.
		So higher cognitive function individuals recognize that the easiest example is what I see as the color red, you may see as green, but because we both looked at the same thing and said red, we identify in the same way.
		Now, I guess they've scientifically proven that's not correct because of brain scans or whatever.
		But and now they can actually, did you see the mind-reading device they have?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They put EEGs on people's brains and made them watch videos and then recreated from their brainwaves what they were seeing.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That was a few years ago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was a few years ago.
		It was rudimentary, but you could see silhouettes and like, you could see like a road and like a creepy stuff.
		But anyway, not everyone can.
		In fact, I will stress this.
		When it comes to cognitive function, as I already mentioned, the multi-track mind, there's visual processing in your mind.
		There's auditory processing.
		And then there's combinations of the both at the same time.
		In fact, there are individuals who can simultaneously visualize two different things simultaneously while I'm going to put it like this.
		There are people who can imagine an apple in their head spinning around while replaying an event from earlier in their day, while planning what they're going to do later in their day and remembering what was happening in a book.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I got to tell a funny story.
		So when I was doing my research for my North Korean book, Dear Reader, they're talking about Kim Jong-il.
		And Kim Jong-il's at a conference and there's a speaker and he's signing bills and his assistants, you know, interrupting him to ask questions about legislation.
		And Kim Jong-il, the speaker stops, and the dear leader says, why are you stopping?
		He goes, oh, you're doing all those things.
		And Kim Jung-Il goes, no, I look at time not as a plane, but as a cube.
		And from that point on, they realized Kim Jong-il can shrink time.
		And my friend goes, and my friend goes, do they mean multitasking?
		And yes, that's what they meant.
		So according to the North Korean propaganda, only Kim Jong-il, North Korea, knows how to do multitasking.
unidentified		Wow.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's fascinating, but that's exactly what you were talking about.
		You can do three things.
		I can listen and read at the same time.
unidentified		Oh, my God.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		This guy better leave the country.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Some people can barely do one of those things.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, they vote.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I don't think the, even if they didn't vote, I don't think it'd be that much better.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Will you go to Pinyang?
unidentified		What?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Pyong-yang?
unidentified		Pyong-young.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I didn't hear what you said.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Would you go to North Korea?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I've been.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		You've never been?
unidentified		You've never been.
unidentified		I didn't want to.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Rodney was my hero.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Rodney was my hero for going for a long time.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Why would he be your hero for going?
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Because he had better relationship than we did at the time.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was told that I could go because I'm viewed as a curiosity to the Korean people.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Because you're a mix?
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		So how was your stay there?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's like they...
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I wrote an article about it for reason.com.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're very racially supremacist.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		They're the most racist country on earth.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so I was told by a 100% Korean, they were like, like, did you ever consider going to North Korea?
		And I was like, I'd love to go.
		Like, but can I?
		And they're like, oh, you'd get in in two seconds like that very easily.
unidentified		Correct.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's just illegal for Americans.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They'd ask you a bunch.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's what?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's illegal now for Americans.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Through your article, you'd probably get in trouble, right?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		No, I wouldn't.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		No, you didn't say anything.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Because I'm a savage, so they only care about Koreans who betray them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They what?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		They only care about Koreans who betray them, like refugees.
		But I'm a savage to them.
		They don't care.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what was explained to me is they would ask me a million questions about who in my family was Korean, where did they come from?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And in fact, it's North Korea.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow, really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't at the time.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Of course, I was.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Heiju, I think, isn't it?
		At the time.
		And so they'd be like, they'd bring you in and start writing everything down.
		And you'd be like really excited.
		And so they're like, they'd roll the red carpet for you.
		You'd have a blast.
		And I'm like, well, yeah, maybe one time in my life, I'm not sure.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		If the restrictions get lifted, I'll go with you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and we'll have a great time.
		I've been to Seoul.
		That was awesome.
		They had squid ink pizza.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		It's not exactly the same.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not.
		Not at all.
		Like, Korea is basically like a bunch of I would describe South Koreans as the older generation, they're like more Korean traditionalists, more racist.
		The younger generation want to be Americans.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And then we went to the dog cafe.
unidentified		That was fun.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		And it's as weak as you think it is.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Not like in Japan.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, the dogs just attack you for your food and they're slobbering.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		China to protect the dogs from some people eat the dog there.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		We're the party.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I want to talk about this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, in Vietnam too.
		My friends, smash the like button.
		Share the show with everyone in your life if you do like the work that we do.
		This has been a lot of fun.
		Next week is going to be crazy because I'll save it for next week.
		But we've got a special panel who's going to be joining us out the week because we want to have more depth the conversation.
		I think it's going to be very interesting.
		A liberal will be joining us to mix it up on the news.
		But a friend of the show, someone we know, and you guys may like or dislike, but it'll be a lot of fun.
		And I hope to see you there.
		So you can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
		Michael, do you want to shout anything out?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I hope you guys enjoyed that graphic novel I've been working on for 25 years, unwantedbook.com.
		We got the goal, so I'm very excited about that.
		Sample pages should be up on that page.
		People check it out.
		Michael Mouse Official on YouTube, and you can follow me on Twitter.
		And I will see you again on this show in the not-so-distant future with a special guest.
		And that's all I'm going to say.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It was great having you.
		It was always fun.
		Always fun to have you reconnect.
		I'm going to be going back to Miami.
		Some people are going to love that.
		Some people are going to hate that.
		I see all the comments.
		I see exactly what you guys are saying.
		YouTube.com forward slash We AreChange.
		Continue my adventure on there.
		I've been posting like a lunatic on there.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		As a lunatic.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		As a lunatic, too.
		And lots of really important stuff.
		I have a second channel too, so I've been really just putting in a lot of the hours, but there's a lot of underhanded things happening.
		It does mean a lot to me when you do check out the videos: youtube.com forward slash we are change.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Yo, it's been a really pleasure.
		There's a new app that I've been working on called wingman.app with two ends.
		And then you can find me, The Robbie Man, R-O-B-B-I-E-M-A-N-N on Instagram and X.
		And then Robbie Change.
		It's being a Wingman.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It's Grindr 2.0.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		It's Being a Wingman.
		I'm a Wingman, but it's for businesses.
		It's not just romantic.
		Check out the app.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Well, explain it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You make more money if it was for banging.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		No, like, literally.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		No, literally, what is it?
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		He's a Christian, and he doesn't want.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		I want to connect people, have them fall in love, but this is for businesses too, because businesses need someone to kind of network and get people to talk to them.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		So what do you actually do?
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		You can hire me to go to different trade shows.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Oh, so you hire someone to be your representative?
unidentified		Yes.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		No, you're Wingman.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		But then it's also a Wingman because I like to have people fall in love.
		I was trying to get married yesterday.
		I was trying to find him a wife.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's going to turn into a sex thing.
unidentified		Robbie, it always does.
unidentified		It always does.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Just like Chicken City.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		I want people to get married.
unidentified		I want people to fall in love.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, people watch chickens have sex on Chicken City.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I know they do.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Unreal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, Phil's here.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I am Phil the Remains on Twix.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		If you want to check out Twix a thing, Twitter, Twix.
unidentified		Like Grinder.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		It's like the Grinder neighbor.
unidentified		No, I have a boomer.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, I went full boomer.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		I'll check.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I have Phil the Remains on Twix.
		I've been writing some stuff, so if you want to check that out, it's on patreon.com/slash PhilThermains.
		The band is all that remains.
		We're going on tour with Born of Osiris and Dead Eyes.
		We start April 29th in Albany.
		We'll be out for a month if you want to check out.
		You can get tickets at allthetremainsonline.com.
		If you want to check out the music, it's all that remains at Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, YouTube, Spotify, and Deezer.
		Don't forget the left lane is for Crime Carter.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Do you need Robbie?
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		What's up, man?
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		I'm pumped to see your app for businesses to fall in love with each other or whatnot.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		Carter's one of the best producers in the world, by the way.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		He's an amazing musical producer.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate that.
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Thanks, Lydia.
luke rudkowski ▲ ● ▼		Linda.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, just go check out Michael's book.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Lindsay.com, right?
michael malice ▲ ● ▼		Unwantedbook.com.
		You had one job, Lydia.
		For sake.
carter banks ▲ ● ▼		Hey, I mixed Luke and your thing together in one word anyway.
robbie mann ▲ ● ▼		You can follow voiceover acting?
unidentified		You have a great voice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for hanging out, everybody.
unidentified		Kill it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, we'll see you all next time, everybody.

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01:19:02 Prosecuting Right-Wingers
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