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IT'S OVER | Timcast IRL #1435

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Shocking Scenes Out Of Minneapolis 00:02:14
tim pool
Shocking scenes out of Minneapolis.
I think it's fair to call this at this point, I don't know, we've been saying civil strife for a while, but when you find out that there are state government officials, politicians that are actively organizing paramilitary actions and shadow law enforcement, it's like, do we call it a civil war yet?
Some of you may be saying, wait, wait, wait, slow down, what are you talking about?
Well, I'm sure most of you have heard about the shooting of Alex Predty.
CBP agents in a scuffle.
They yell, gun, gun, the guy's got a gun.
One of the agents appears to disarm him.
Looks like the gun may have gone off accidentally, and then they shot and killed this guy.
Instantly, there's an occupation, an autonomous zone, something coordinated.
We're now seeing videos of people being pulled over by de facto law enforcement that demand their papers to prove who they are.
They have a database where they're tracking license plates.
Someone in government is giving them this access or deeply involved.
And it appears we have confirmation that government officials and politicians in Minnesota are actively a part of an insurgency network to rebel.
I'm not kidding, against the federal government.
In fact, they call it a resistance network.
And they admit, these politicians, that they are actively organizing this.
Call it whatever you want.
Now, we've got to break down for you what happened with this shooting, of course.
We're going to break down for you currently what's happening over the past weekend.
There was a Hilton, I think it was a home two, ransacked.
And there was an officer there from the Bureau of Federal Bureau of Prisons who was bashed in the face with a brick left bloody.
And after all of this and everything we learned, it appears Trump is standing down, stating that he's talked with the mayor and the governor.
They're going to cut a deal.
He's pulling CBB commander Bovino out with some reports that Bovino is being relieved of duty, though it's being disputed.
That's the case.
Homan's going to go in and negotiate.
So people are pissed.
But we'll talk about it.
There's a lot to go over and break down.
Plus, we got a story about apparently a librarian in West Virginia was trying to recruit people to kill Donald Trump.
I don't even know this guy.
This is crazy.
Crazy, crazy stuff, but we'll break it all down for you.
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You know, we got a couple of guests joining us tonight.
Sir, why don't you go first?
Introduce yourself.
thomas renz
Tom Renz, attorney, podcaster, writer.
License Plates Exposed 00:14:52
thomas renz
Just basically causing trouble everywhere, man.
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Oh, there you go.
tim pool
There you go.
And this fine lion-maned sir.
viva frei
Good to be back.
And I met Tom Renz for the first time in real life.
And like everybody else I meet in real life, he's a solid foot taller than me.
I recognize him from the internet.
tim pool
He's like 12 feet taller than you.
viva frei
Yeah, Viva Fry, David Fryhead, former Montreal litigator.
tim pool
We have someone else here, too.
libby emmons
I'm Libby Emmons.
I'm super glad to be here.
I'm the editor-in-chief of the Postmillennial and Human Events.
And I'm really excited to announce tonight that I am launching a new podcast.
It's called The Pod Millennial.
And we dropped it tonight, just a day early.
Normally, it's going to be launching on Tuesdays, but you can check it out at thepodmillennial.com.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Philabonte.
I'm the lead singer of the Heavy Metal Band, All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Now, the first big story that we need to break down, which came out over the weekend, comes from Cam Higbee, Minneapolis Signalgate.
I think Signalgate may already exist as a scandal.
libby emmons
That's a nice thing.
tim pool
That was with P. Hag Seth.
viva frei
Yeah, right.
tim pool
So we got everybody.
libby emmons
But people are calling.
tim pool
Yeah, people are calling it some gates.
Here's the story.
As it turns out, there are Democrat politicians and government officials actively a part of what they refer to as a resistance network, where they're providing government resources and acting as de facto law enforcement so that they can, as a state, rebel against the federal government.
And this is not an exaggeration.
They call it a resistance.
Call it whatever you want.
Cam Higby says, I've been undercover inside the group for days.
You'll notice emojis next to people's names.
The highlighted positions are the most crucial, most self-explanatory.
Mobile patrols and their entire shift searching for suspicious vehicles.
They have plate checkers.
And let's see if I don't know if I have this pulled up actually.
I don't think I do.
They have a database of license plates.
Now, the question is: who is giving them access to the state license plate registry?
Well, somebody is.
And they're using that to compile a list of names and associate them with vehicles to figure out who's doing what.
Notably, James O'Keefe was identified by his vehicle, and they knew his license plate, which means they not only have access to the database, the plate database, someone's granted them access, but the car rental agencies as well.
James O'Keefe said it was insane that they were employees at these hotels that were ratting them out.
This is not just some activists protesting.
This is a city and statewide insurgent network.
These people have been operating a shadow law enforcement operation.
It's now being exposed.
And, you know, I do want to get into this.
Is the biggest component of this?
Of course, we need to get into the shooting of Predty.
But as it turns out, it's being reported that Alex Predi, the man shot and killed by CBP, was an active member of this insurgent group.
Now the question is: what is going on and what will be done about it?
Who are these people?
How deep does this go?
And I'll make this argument.
The only reason we know about this one is because Trump sent in the troops.
When CBP and ICE became active in Minneapolis, these people fought back and they fought back to an extreme degree.
But the operations that we see in other places aren't as heavy-handed, and there's more cooperation from the state.
So these networks don't get exposed.
I'd be willing to bet California, Washington, Oregon, Colorado, New Mexico, many of these deep blue states have the same kind of insurgent networks with politicians actively providing direct access to state infrastructure.
But we don't know about it because they have no reason to reveal what they're doing behind the scenes.
Now, unfortunately, Trump's saying he's pulling out.
So we just kick it around and we'll generally talk about what's going on.
And then we'll get into the nitty-gritty of the Predty shooting.
viva frei
Is this the one?
Is this the signal group that Peggy Flanagan, Lieutenant General, is apparently a part of?
libby emmons
That's allegedly.
If it is, allegedly, then we call this as Southside Fran.
viva frei
We call this Flanagate.
libby emmons
Yeah.
phil labonte
Flanagan.
viva frei
There we go.
libby emmons
There are other local lawmakers who have bragged about being involved in this chat.
phil labonte
One of the crashing scenes was bragging about it, too.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, but that's fine when you have someone like that in these groups, but there's a state senator who was having a meeting.
He's Lives TikTok posted a video where he says, I am running this chat.
You can join.
And it's one thing to say, we have meetups and we protest.
It's another thing to say, we want you to go out and act as scouts targeting private vehicles.
Now, understand this.
What we're learning about this signal, how they have a license plate database.
We also know that these groups have been going around various neighborhoods and smashing up vehicles and looting them.
All connected.
This is not a protest.
This is an insurgent.
They call themselves resistance, right?
You want to call them resistance?
Sure.
Equally as such, you can call them insurgent.
They're using this network, and someone in the state is giving them access, and they're smashing up vehicles.
They've already stolen weapons from federal vehicles.
Let's just put it this way: we're there.
I don't know what else you call this.
This is state level.
This is state senators, politicians, and government officials organizing this.
libby emmons
What do you call it?
One of the people who was out looting the FBI vehicles and stealing documents and then reading the documents aloud on live stream, it looked to be the exact same person who was standing in the back of a pickup truck with Ilhan Omar giving speeches to protesters about, you know, resist and we care and all the rest of it.
So this really does seem very entrenched within Minnesota elected officials as well within that.
And what do you call that, right?
I mean, it seems to me like you could call it sedition, you know, you could call it insurrection.
phil labonte
Insurrection is insufficient.
Insurgency is because it's an organized network that's consistent, right?
It's continuous.
It's not like just one thing.
tim pool
Well, it's the government doing it.
So I don't know if insurgency is the right word either.
libby emmons
Right?
It's since BLM.
I mean, Predi was involved with the George Floyd BLM protests in 2020 as well.
thomas renz
We've got a great name, right?
So we had J6 as an insurrection.
How is this any different?
Maybe worse.
I mean, I'd argue True.
tim pool
It's substantially worse.
thomas renz
But here's the thing.
Let me throw this out because I haven't heard anybody bring this up.
Melissa Hortman, right?
You guys remember Melissa Hortman?
libby emmons
Yeah, she was.
thomas renz
So Melissa Hortman, former Democrat Speaker of the House in Minnesota, who voted against the Somali welfare fraud, ends up dead by a guy who claims Tim Walz told him to do it, who was a Tim Walz appointee.
viva frei
And no one investigates Tim Walz for conspiracy to commit murder, who was also neck deep in activist organizations in, I think it was the Congo, if I'm not mistaken.
phil labonte
This is international.
libby emmons
And who was super into communist China?
viva frei
Oh, sorry, go ahead.
phil labonte
Well, so Sarah Adams is a former CIA basically targeter.
She worked overseas a lot.
And she's of the opinion that the terrorist networks overseas are, at the very least, involved so that way they can get response times, track movements, get equipment, information, routines, all that stuff.
So even if this isn't just a problem domestically, this is going to spread to international, even if it isn't already.
viva frei
Well, that was also the issue with the Somali fraud of Minnesota is how much of that money went to fund al-Shabaab and international terrorist organizations.
When you describe it, Tim, it sounds like the scene out of a fight club when you have your moles on the inside and he says, we're good, sir.
But, and I don't want to reach out the tentacles of conspiracy theory too much, but I do think back to Charlie Kirk's assassination, where if you have activists within organizations that tell you that you have security where you don't, so that they can be part of this resistance movement to go after these certain voices, part of me was always asking the question as to how the roof was left open.
And if you have activist actors who are in on what's going to happen because people had advanced knowledge of it, then leaving deliberate weaknesses open, it sounds exactly what's happening right now.
And if they go after James O'Keefe by getting his license plate from the car rental, you have activists within who are participating in facilitating acts of violence against the people who are documenting it, speaking out, and arguably changing the mind.
So that's where my mind goes.
And I don't think it's totally credible.
tim pool
Let me show you this video, guys.
This is from Frontlines, and it is an officer from the Federal Bureau of Prisons covered in blood.
viva frei
This is the guy that got his finger bit off.
tim pool
No, this is the guy who got bashed in the face with a brick.
Now, the question is, why?
They are at a home, was it Home Two Suites or whatever?
libby emmons
Home Two Suites in St. Paul, Minnesota.
tim pool
And far-loft extremists thought ICE was there, so they ransacked it.
They showed up, they smashed out the windows, they tried fighting their way inside.
There was a single cop, and this guy, along with his other guy, were set to protect it, and someone threw a brick at his face.
phil labonte
Yeah.
libby emmons
At one point, you hear sirens, and then you see an ambulance go by.
There's no cops, you know?
thomas renz
So, like, imagine if the cops did this.
Imagine if it was the cops, you know, throwing something, shooting the protest or whatever.
I mean, this guy's just standing there.
They throw a brick at him.
He's doing his job, right?
So you've got every right to protest.
But imagine if the shoe was on the other foot.
I mean, these people are out there, and this whole thing was supposedly kicked off, and it's a lie.
Don't tell me it was actually this woman who, you know, they shot.
It's all over some woman who tries to run over a guy with a gun who's law enforcement, who, you know, unknowns to her, you know, had been ran over before, and he defends himself.
And, you know, this whole thing is supposed to be from that.
And we're supposed to believe that there's that much outrage that we're going to have, you know, this sort of a thing.
This is planned.
This is a network.
And the real question I have is why is there never any accountability from the people who keep organizing these things?
phil labonte
Because the point is the chaos.
You know, like they want the fact that all of ICE's operations in other states have gone smoothly is it points directly to the fact that this is something that not just the protesters, but the local and state government want.
And you can pontificate about what the reason is, whether you say, oh, it's because of the alleged improprieties that Jacob Frey and Tim Waltz are involved in because of the Smalley Daycare scandal or whatever.
That doesn't really, I mean, that's not the point because they are actively involved in this stuff.
They are doing everything they can to inhibit law enforcement, federal law enforcement from detaining and, you know, deporting illegals.
libby emmons
Yeah, I mean, part of how you can tell that this is what they want is that they've done it before.
phil labonte
Yeah.
libby emmons
Right.
So they were doing this in 2020.
You had Tim Waltz essentially facilitating the riots then, facilitating the Minneapolis Autonomous Zone.
You had Jacob Frey taking the knee for George Floyd.
You had their city council was working to defund police.
Now Minneapolis, according to Jacob Frey, has 600 cops, which is far below what they actually need to manage the city.
And that's after demoralizing their police force, defunding their police force and all the rest of it.
And during that summer, let's not forget this came out during the campaign when Governor Waltz almost became our vice president.
We heard that his wife demanded that they leave the windows open of the governor's mansion so that she could smell the burning tires of the protests.
phil labonte
That sounds like apocalypse.
libby emmons
It's for real because she wanted to remember her white privilege.
And I think another thing that's important to remember, and this is something I keep thinking about, is all of these leftists have for years been telling us about white privilege, right?
And how white people get a pass and whatever.
So what you end up with is this white lady, this white guy, they go into these protests, and I think they actually believe that they are protected by their white privilege.
I think they actually believe that if they go in there first, they're not going to get shot.
They believed that that white, middle-aged white lady was in absolutely no danger because police are so racist that they would never shoot this middle-aged white lady.
They believe that their privilege protects them.
That's how racist they actually are.
viva frei
Did she want the windows left open because she wanted to smell the suffering, like be part of the suffering, or because she wanted to take pride in what she had done?
libby emmons
No, she wanted to remember what she had done and be aware of her privilege and sort of like the whole big commie combo.
thomas renz
She's certifiable.
viva frei
So we're going to batshit crazy.
libby emmons
She's nice.
But Waltz left the, I mean, he was like, okay, babe, and he left the windows open.
You know, he was okay with it, too.
And you can tell that this is what they want because it is what they keep delivering.
And we know also, and we were talking about this before the show, if it weren't for these sanctuary policies, there would not be confrontations in the communities, and we would not see all of this going on.
We don't see it in other states.
Florida, there's more deportations.
I think California, New York, there's more deportations.
Texas, there's more deportations than in Minneapolis.
But we only see this mayhem in Minneapolis because that's what the elected leaders want to have happen.
And it is important to say that they're covering up, you know, 9 billion plus in fraud.
viva frei
This is the tragedy that Tim Walz needs to distract from the multi-billion dollar scandal.
libby emmons
Yeah, he wishes now.
He wishes now that he had waited instead of saying that he wasn't going to run again, you know, because he already said he wasn't going to run for governor again.
I bet he regrets that decision now.
viva frei
This is all, I mean, it is obviously all politics, but this is insurrection, insurgence, whatever you want to call it.
It is politics so that they can get the screenshots or they can get the images and the sound bites to use against Trump and the Republicans in the midterms.
That might be part and parcel of some broader scheme of funding international terrorism, but I think that is the bottom line element to this.
It's activist blue states that are trying to get the clips, soundbites, and images for their next political promotional campaign.
And then the problem is not to give them that which they so desperately want.
libby emmons
Every night, don't forget, all of these activist groups are holding online virtual trainings.
You know, the Women's March is holding a virtual training tonight so that they can tell everyone how to resist more and all of the rest of it.
And they're just one group, you know, that I'm still on the list of.
And there's dozens of other ones that are doing the exact same thing.
And there's pamphlets, there's whole documents that tell you how to use your car, you know, how to de-arrest people, how to obstruct law enforcement without, you know, taking any culpability for yourself.
tim pool
I want to jump to this next story.
We can get into the actual shooting that took place.
Protesters and Ice Agents 00:08:07
tim pool
You guys may have heard a man named Alex Predty was shot and killed.
Everyone keeps saying ICE.
And that's, you know, my bad too.
Initially, everybody thought these were ICE agents.
They were CBP agents.
So it's not ICE.
But there's a lot to break down on this.
And the one thing I'll tell you first and foremost is that everybody is lying.
Everybody's lying.
Initially, the Trump admins said that this is a guy who wanted to do maximum damage and massacre law enforcement.
And that's absurd.
There's no evidence to suggest that's the case.
However, the left said this was an innocent guy who was just peacefully protesting and exercising his First and Second Amendment rights.
That is also a lie.
According to the New York Post, this guy is part of a network that is tracking law enforcement, pulling citizens, random civilians over, threatening them, forcing them to, threatening them, threatening to kill James O'Keefe for that circumstance.
This guy's part of a group that has trained to obstruct law enforcement, and they refer to themselves as a resistance network.
Sure, if you're actively training people to track law enforcement vehicles and obstruct while armed, you're not a resistance network.
You're an insurgency.
Now, this guy, Predi, sought to interfere with a law enforcement operation for which a scuttle, a scuffle ensued.
Now, the left is arguing again that he's peacefully protesting.
He's not.
He certainly wasn't there to massacre people, but we're going to play the video for you.
And there's some commentary that I don't think matters all that much, but watch this.
Viewer discretion is advised.
This does show the shooting, though it is grainy and low res.
He's resistant and trying to stand up.
You hear now, gun, gun.
You could hear someone.
Now you can see he's got the gun taken away.
A shot is fired.
And then they shoot the guy on the ground.
Now, there's several important things to understand about this.
First, it is not a protest.
There was no organized protest.
This was an active insurgent group tracking law enforcement.
Three people then get out and surround the CBP guy, two women and a guy.
The agent then shoves them across the street.
He keeps pushing them, knocks them into the ground.
Predi did not show up as a protester to wave signs.
This is an insurgent group with government backing that was seeking out feds to obstruct law enforcement operations.
That's a felony.
Okay.
Then, when the police made a move to arrest him, and by all means, by all means, say the CBP is overly aggressive and didn't need to go that far.
That's a fine opinion.
I'm not saying it's right or wrong what they did, but he did resist arrest and he was armed.
It appears that what happens is at some point as they're trying to pin him down and he's actively fighting them, they notice he's armed.
It appears he has a gun in his back waistband.
This agent, it appears, I believe he's an agent in gray, then pulls the gun out and someone yells, gun, gun.
Now, the interesting thing here is this was a SIG P320, I believe that's what's called.
And when the agent then turns, it appears he's only holding the grip, the gun goes off.
Listen.
That is presumably the shot from Predi's gun.
However, he's actively holding a cell phone in his hand like this.
So you've got agents trying to arrest a guy who's fighting them.
One of them yells, gun, gun.
He's got a gun.
They grab it from him.
The other agents can't see this.
They hear a gunshot go off and then see a guy turn around holding a black object in his hand like that and they unload on the guy.
I don't think this is an instance of ICE executing or CBP executing.
Certainly not ICE, not ICE agents or CBP wanting to execute a guy, but it's also not a peaceful protester engaging in First Amendment rights.
You have no First Amendment right to be part of a network tracking license plates to obstruct federal law enforcement.
That goes so far beyond obstruction.
Let me say this.
When the Rene Good shooting happened, you had a lawyer go on the Daily Show and say blocking traffic does not reach the level of obstruction.
It's pretty serious.
All right, lady, I'll give you that one.
Fine.
What about being part of a network that is driving around on shifts with thousands of people working with the state government to isolate, locate, and block federal agents from doing their jobs and actively fight them while armed?
Now I'm going to go ahead and say that's obstruction.
And then this is the unfortunate circumstance that happens when you engage in this behavior.
phil labonte
You made this point this morning on one of your clips.
When you're being detained by law enforcement, the safest thing to do is go limp.
tim pool
Let activists are trained to do this.
I have been at these meetings.
I have worked for Greenpeace.
They tell you when you are being arrested, limp.
You just plop down like a blob.
They will pick you up and you do nothing.
The fact that this guy's actively fighting, these are not your typical protest groups.
These are coordinated planned insurgents who have been told to get armed, who have been told to fight back, and he showed up with two mags.
Now, listen, I'm not going to sit here and claim you're not allowed to carry magazines or carry guns.
But if you're part of a group that is giving you instructions to find and block law enforcement on shifts, meaning this guy has a, there's an authority, there's a hierarchy in a group saying, okay, Alex, you are on duty now.
And then he brings an extra magazine with him.
I don't think he was going there to massacre law enforcement, but he's not just a protester.
libby emmons
Well, this is someone also who spoke to his parents about his plans after Rene Good was killed.
He went and talked to his parents about how he planned to get involved in the protests.
He'd been involved in protests before.
They warned him about interfering with law enforcement.
They warned him about getting too involved.
But you also had Governor Tim Waltz telling Minnesotans to track and film ICE agents, to keep protesting loudly, to make sure they had their cell phone on them at all times, and to get involved by filming all of the interactions between law enforcement and the arrests of illegal immigrants.
He said that directly.
And then on Sunday night, he came out and said that he was damn proud of Minnesota.
You know, the governor is actively in favor of all of this stuff.
And you put this guy out there.
He's out there on these front lines.
You know, I don't know how you do anything other than comply when cops come talk to you.
I personally, I am afraid of police officers.
I'm just going to throw it out there.
When I've been pulled over a couple of times, you know, I smile.
I put my hands here.
When they ask me for stuff, I say, I am going to reach into my glove box and get it because I don't want anything.
They're in an intense situation.
They're in life and death situations all the time.
I'm just some random person who doesn't want my life to get screwed up right now or ended because I do the wrong thing with the, you know, for the guy with the gun.
phil labonte
I've carried a gun almost every day for the better part of the past 15 years, right?
And I've had interactions with law enforcement multiple times.
There was one time where I was driving.
I had my gun on the console, got pulled over, the cop came up on the right side because it was on the highway.
And I look over and the cop's got his gun drawn, you know, flashlight on, gun drawn, because he saw my gun, right?
So what do I do?
I sit there with my hands on the wheel and he instructs me to get out of the car and I get out of the car.
He puts me in cuffs, gets the gun, makes sure it's clear.
10 minutes later, he's like, okay, you're good.
Gives me back my gun.
See you later.
Because I complied.
I didn't fight with him.
libby emmons
You just got to do what they tell you.
Enemies Drawn 00:15:08
tim pool
You know what I love is these liberals who all of a sudden are libertarians and all of a sudden love 2A.
And the Lulberts.
I love the Lulberts.
You know why I love libertarians so much?
Because whenever a fight breaks out, they fold like cheap suits.
So I don't have to worry about them at all.
These libertarians come out and they're like, look, I'm concerned about immigration, but I don't think the government should be allowed.
And I'm like, bro, by all means, scream into the wind.
Because if anything actually has to happen, you're going to stand there with our arms crossed while we do the jobs that need to be done.
But what I love so much about this, especially, is that these people who are saying, I thought you were for the Second Amendment, Tim.
I was never in favor of the right to keep and bear arms to go and obstruct duly appointed law enforcement officials from a duly elected government because you disagreed with the policy position everybody else voted for.
The idea that you were like, don't I have a right to go fight a cop with a gun?
No, you don't.
And the funny thing is, I love this.
I love this, guys.
I'm going to let you know a big secret.
Did you know the Second Amendment was not about fighting tyranny?
I'm sick of these people who have this like seventh grade American traditionalist view of the Second Amendment, where they're like, the founding fathers were concerned the government would take over.
The government would take over.
But tyrannical government would oppress them.
So they needed to be armed at all times.
There was a factor in the Second Amendment, of which was the regulars from the crown were trying to take our guns from us, for which we used to protect ourselves, and we said no.
And if you allow us to take your weapons, you will be oppressed.
But the principal reason for the Second Amendment was not just because they were like, guys, what if we to overthrow our new government?
In fact, a bunch of the founding fathers were like, we don't want to give the people guns.
They'll overthrow us.
We just want a new government.
The principal issue is the general defense of a free state, which can be interpreted to mean fighting tyrannical government, but typically was about foreign invaders and not having strong standing armies.
That's why the original article, of which I think it would have been Article 4 or 5, actually, before they got rid of the first two and then reduced everything down, actually had a provision about conscription not being necessary.
Because the actual intent was, in a time of war, we need people to be able to defend their communities.
They got to have guns.
Only one component of that is in the event of tyrannical government.
However, Thomas Jefferson, who famously wrote the letter saying that, you know, what is it, every 200 years, the Tree of Liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants, later went to say, yeah, I shouldn't have said that.
And many of the founding fathers actually held the opinion that the crown wasn't necessarily the problem.
Parliament was, and the king would not come to their aid.
It wasn't this cut and dry thing like the king is bad.
No, it was we're not being represented in government.
As it stands right now, Ulysses Grant, what he wrote was, you have registers grievances.
You have elections.
You are not facing taxation without representation.
So while you can try to rebel, you will be conquered by your betters.
So the argument right now is this.
I'll put it simply.
First of all, when these people come out and go, Tim's a bootlicker for defending ICE.
I'll be like, no, no, you misunderstand.
It's my boots.
It's mine.
I voted for them.
I'm wearing the boot.
I'm stomping on the ground.
I ain't licking anybody.
I'm clapping for these people that I said, please go out and enforce the law.
And anybody else who's cheering for it, who voted for it too, we're all wearing the boots.
You're the one crying.
You're the one saying you're coming in and enforcing laws we didn't vote for.
Well, I got bad news for you.
The American people voted for the Republican Party in the House, the Senate, the presidency, and they got the Supreme Court.
That means it's the will of the people and democracy that we enforce our immigration law.
I'm not going to sit here and say that children should get wrapped up and abused or anything stupid like that.
Your stories are fake and they're not happening.
Mistakes are made.
Those are bad.
We'll figure that out.
But the margin of error is always going to exist and we are going to do what our laws say.
And these laws were not written by me, nor were they written by the current Congress.
Our immigration laws were written 30 plus years ago, 40, 50 years ago.
I only ask as a voter, and I know most of you watching, that we have those laws upheld.
So when I see DHS ICE, and they go out and they're armed and they're putting down these protesters and then people look at me and say, you're licking their boot.
I'll bet you misunderstand.
I hired the boot.
I'm paying their bills and clapping for them.
So cry more about it.
But your lies and manipulations ain't playing with me at all.
Because I got to tell you, I honestly don't even care about this argument coming from communists that they should have a right to keep and bear arms.
You want to come to me and say, but what about your principles, Tim?
Don't people have a right to keep and bear arms?
I'll say, generally speaking, yes.
But when a communist comes to me and says, I shouldn't be allowed to have a gun, I'll return the favor and say, neither should you.
viva frei
The fact that Thomas Jefferson said that he regretted having said that later is one thing, but the fact that it resonated throughout the ages means that there's probably more truth to it than him having written it out of error.
But going back to the guy and whether or not he was part of an insurgency and we now have elements that he was an activist involved in BLM, the argument is going to be to play devil's advocate.
At that time, they would have no reason to know that he was only there with a camera and a gun, a concealed gun.
The big question is going to be that as of the moment.
tim pool
Stink bug on your chair.
viva frei
A what?
No, that's.
No, no, don't, The argument is going to be that they didn't know what he was an activist.
They didn't know that he was there taking names and taking plates and whatever.
And that might be irrelevant to what happened at the end of the day.
The issue is that he willingly and deliberately got involved in an altercation.
We don't hear from any of this footage that he announces that he's got a gun on him.
And whether or not he thought he was righteously defending a woman who might have been abusively getting sprayed by pepper spray by these officers, this all happened within basically three seconds.
This is shoving.
And then there's, they find his gun, and then a shot rings out, and it happens within a second.
tim pool
And he's holding a black object pointed in his hand.
viva frei
No, and then people are saying, well, he was reaching for the holster, but the holster was empty.
First of all, by the time they find out he has one gun, they don't know that he doesn't have more than one gun.
And this happens in a second and a half.
And I was, you know, took a little flack for saying what happened to Renee Good was justified, but unfortunate.
This is another one where whether or not you think it's justified or not, it's a very predictable outcome from acting like an idiot.
And when you say, you know, you get pulled over with a gun in your car, I got pulled over coming out of my house in Montreal and a cop stopped me because I looked suspicious because I did.
And I'm not going to mouth off and say, I'm coming out of my house and you don't have the right to do me.
It was, yeah, all right.
Here's my ID.
I live here.
Thank you for protecting the peace, not going in there and exacerbating volatile situations.
tim pool
So here's what we know now.
This guy was on duty as part of a paramilitary group, an act of insurgency, organized with state support, state-sponsored insurgency.
He was there to resist duly sworn in federal law enforcement operations.
So we're looking at combat.
We're looking at a guy who chose a degree of force against federal agents.
And this is what happens.
I think the important thing people need to take away from this, none of anything we said matters.
Only one thing matters to the average person.
And in the deep reaches of their minds, they all know it to be true.
All that matters is that this guy was an enemy combatant.
If it turned out that he made a video an hour in advance saying, I can't live this way anymore.
ICE must be stopped.
I'm taking them all down with me.
I'm going to take these guys out.
And then he pulled out his gun and chambered around.
Liberals would not care.
The right would say that proves it.
And the left would say, none of that has anything to do with what the ICE, with the CBP guy did.
They'd be like, yeah, but he wasn't doing that there.
It wouldn't matter if this guy said, I want to exercise my rights.
And I just so happen to be walking down the street and I see these guys.
Maybe I can peacefully approach this officer and explain our position to him.
It wouldn't matter if he did that because the right is still going to say he was actively armed while resisting arrest.
Because in the minds of the partisans, only one thing truly matters.
Enemies got into a fight and one side took an action.
If Predty was being beaten and fighting and then a gunshot rang out and he rolled over, pulled out his gun and shot the agent several times, the left would be arguing the inverse saying, he heard a gunshot and heard gun.
He thought they were trying to kill him.
He's innocent.
And the right would be like, they're insurgents.
They're crazy.
They must be stopped.
That's where we're at.
Look at Rene Good.
It doesn't matter.
You know what?
Let's do this.
I'm going to jump to this next clip.
We got a segment for you guys.
Let me pull this one up.
Here's your proof.
We got this post from Todd Anderson, Poker Knight Todd.
He says, if you look at this picture and see anything other than an unarmed and defenseless citizen being executed, please check yourself into a mental health facility.
Society is worse off with you in it.
F-ICE.
Well, here's the image.
Let me open it in a new tab so we can zoom in on the image that he posted.
Now, let's play a game.
What do you guys see here, this image that this guy posted?
What do you see here?
Anyone want to let you know?
viva frei
Well, I'll go first.
I'm not an idiot, and I'm not going to come to a conclusion based on what is one eight-thousandth of a second of a volatile situation.
tim pool
Okay, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Viva, I'm asking you what you see in this photo.
Please look at it.
Please describe the photo.
viva frei
Oh, I don't want to spoil the punchline because I know that Grokeny.
tim pool
You're going to say the punchline.
viva frei
Well, no, I see right now what the left wanted by way of their new poster, you know, enhance the negative reverse negative, put on a shirt.
That's their new Che Guevara.
tim pool
I know, you're missing the punchline.
phil labonte
I see a headless guy.
tim pool
I see a guy with no head.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's it.
tim pool
There is an ICE agent on the ground whose leg is made of some kind, who's got one leg made of robot parts, and he has no head because this is an AI image they fabricated.
Well, hold on.
viva frei
know because the truth is i that's your i didn't know that was the punchline what i had seen there's no head and his foot is made of robot parts But his foot is a gun.
There's a screenshot that is relatively similar.
And then someone had asked Grok if it's a real image.
And it says, yes, this is a real image of a Russian soldier executing a civilian in 2022.
And then the reply to that was, way to go, Grok.
tim pool
So there is a comparable low-res, grainy screenshot from a single frame.
But what they've done is they've AI generated a version of it, and they're using this to make their claims.
This, of course, based on the expressions and what they're doing, is meant to make you think this poor man is on his knees being executed.
Now, certainly the original still does look similar, but you can't see their faces, as evidenced by the fact that this agent's head doesn't exist because the AI couldn't even, the AI couldn't even see his head.
So the expression these guys have is fabricated.
They want to create an emotional image.
That's the point of AI generating this version of it.
You can see in his hand, he's holding something.
Now, what he's holding in his hand looks like it might be a magazine, and he's got multiple thumbs.
Whatever.
The point is, they're going to fabricate whatever they need to fabricate to justify their worldview.
And when you try and explain this to them, as I've done, they are too retarded to care, and they call me right-wing for it.
My position right away was DHS said he was going to massacre law enforcement.
I said, that is a lie.
That is not true.
It was a series of unfortunate events, likely because he had a gun.
The gun went off.
Other agents don't know that.
And he's holding something black in his hand, pointed forward.
So they unload it on him.
It sucks.
But he's clearly resisting arrest.
The response the left gives is, Tim Poole's far right.
He was not resisting arrest.
He was just having an involuntary reaction to men grabbing him.
thomas renz
Yeah.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
thomas renz
Yeah, we saw that, right?
We saw him having numerous involuntary reactions there for like 10 or 15 seconds, which, you know, anybody that's ever gotten into any real fights knows that a real fight doesn't last more than a minute, usually.
If it does, there's something going on.
This whole thing is nonsense.
Plus, let's not overlook the fact that he was in the process of committing multiple crimes, resisting arrest, participating in insurrection, a conspiracy to resist.
I mean, there's so many different things that this guy might have been doing at this time.
And, you know, I mean, again, to me, though, this is something that the left is looking for.
This is something that these people in Minnesota are looking for.
They're trying to stoke war.
They're trying to stoke this.
They want this.
They need this because they can't shut down what we all fought for.
We fought for Trump to deport people.
We fought for this.
And right now, one of the things I was thinking about when Libby was saying earlier, particularly about the foreign connections, right?
So these Somalis are shipping briefcases full of money across the border to wherever, right?
So here's the thing.
Does treason apply?
Are we aiding and abetting our enemies, right?
Is this comfort to the enemy?
I mean, this is insane because we're sending money over there.
We know all these illegals came through.
A lot of them came through the southern border or through refugee programs that Biden set up, different things.
But a lot of these people are here illegally.
They're clearly enemies of the state.
I mean, this is an insurrection at minimum.
I mean, yeah.
Is this a state-sponsored thing?
I mean, is this sponsored by Somalia?
Is this sponsored by some of our foreign enemies?
tim pool
Democrats are actively involved in promoting it.
thomas renz
Well, 100%.
But I mean, the devil.
tim pool
Well, I'm going to get that video for people because I know that people are going to be like, what do you mean?
I'll pull the video up for you guys.
viva frei
The question I did have about, first of all, the fact that it took that long.
This is generated from roughly the same pixelated image.
And I went to double check that I wasn't having my own hallucinations.
tim pool
But understand how this changes the context.
And we don't know if they said, Grock, enhance this image and make the agents look callous and angry.
viva frei
No, the question that I have is, is we're going to get, I presume they have body cam footage.
If they don't, I still don't know.
tim pool
They do.
Apparently they've confirmed they do.
viva frei
The question is this.
In that kerfuffle that lasted 15 seconds, does he at any point mention that he's got a firearm?
tim pool
You can hear the people yelling, he's got a gun, gun, gun.
Speculation Around Epstein 00:16:07
viva frei
Yeah, no, the question is, is he announcing it or did he want either to go out in a blaze of glory or did he think that he was going to go in there, shoot a couple of officers who he thought were abusively pepper spraying an innocent pedestrian and he would be a folk hero as a result.
tim pool
I don't think he was going to shoot anybody.
I mean, to be fair, listen, there are a lot of people who are like, look, I carry multiple magazines with me.
It doesn't mean I want to kill anybody.
Sure, but when you're part of a group where you have shifts and you've got the governments basically telling you that Nazis are taking over and we have to put an end to this now, and then you're like, okay, I am going to, I'm going to, listen, it was not a protest.
He was on duty.
This is a paramilitary group in a chat with managers and bosses putting him on duty to go out seeking out law enforcement to obstruct them.
And he decided, not only should I bring my gun, I should bring an additional magazine with me.
viva frei
Well, he might have been waiting for an altercation that didn't involve federal law enforcement.
tim pool
At the bare minimum, he expected maybe a possibility of a firefight.
Yeah, no, no, I mean, maybe he wanted to kill James O'Keefe.
viva frei
Maybe he wanted, maybe, maybe he, I forget who it was that was assassinated a while back and then the guy gave an interview on Vice and then the cops found him.
libby emmons
Oh, in the end, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Well, he, Michael Reinhold shot Aaron Dalton twice in the chest walking down the street.
viva frei
No, and then claims self-defense.
So, I mean, this guy goes out looking, he won't do it to ICE, but if they find other agitators, if they find independent journalists, and then, you know, they get in a corner where there's nobody but them, and then he claims self-defense.
Whether or not he was for trouble, he definitely found trouble.
And the issue of painting him as an innocent victim, it's easy to.
But when he's involved in intervening actively, even if he thought he was righteously doing so, armed with a firearm in a police altercation, you cannot expect it to go many other ways.
tim pool
Here's a video from Libs of TikTok.
They say the man who was killed by ICE is apparently an anti-ICE resistant in anti-ICE resistant signal chat groups.
He was killed by CBP.
Everyone got that wrong, even me.
Do you know who's running the chats?
Minnesota State rep Alex Falconer.
He admitted it.
He's open about it.
When is he going to be hauled in for questioning?
Here's the video in question, and it's freezing on us because we can go with Falcon Gate now.
viva frei
We can disconnectively call it Falcon Gate.
tim pool
Is this what Axe just does all the time, no matter what?
viva frei
Incognito with somebody.
alex falconer
I'm a community organizer at heart, and that's part of what I'm trying to bring to the legislature.
I'm helping to lead the community response, rapid response network that we have, given any ICE situations.
I have a couple cards here.
I'm willing to stop in to stay around and talk with anybody that wants any more information.
We've got a couple groups on the app Signal that we would love for you to join.
Whether or not you want to be a part of the resistance network, I fully understand you may not be comfortable with that, but you can help us in a lot of ways by sending an alert that if you see any suspicious vehicles, any traffic, if you know of anybody that is being targeted, that's being detained, we have resources immediately available that we can send to you, send to their family, get them legal help, help the families if they need food, if people are afraid to leave their homes to get food,
or we're working with the food shelves to try to figure out a way to deliver groceries.
I know yesterday.
tim pool
So you get it.
I pulled up his ballot pedia here.
Can you believe it?
Democratic Party District 49A currently in office.
So presuming that Libs of TikTok is accurate in their reporting, which I don't see why it wouldn't be, here is a state rep organizing active insurgency against the federal governments, which a man who is, again, Cam Higby shows, they turn their shift on and off.
They show their emoji that I'm on duty.
This guy got armed and said, I am going to actively seek out federal law enforcement and get in their way.
Sponsored by the state.
viva frei
Even back it up to the point where you don't have to assume he's partaking in that insurgency.
Just from a political perspective, this is a guy organizing how to protect illegal aliens within his jurisdiction.
Set aside everything else.
They've got homeless people, citizens of America, veterans living on the streets.
This guy is out here cloutchasing with, you know, who he presumes to be illegals, strategizing and organizing how he can actively divert resources to protecting illegal immigrants, and especially presumably because they're going after the violent criminals of them.
This seditious, treasonous, whatever.
This is the Democrat Party, and this is who is in charge of the state.
That should be shocking on its face alone, all things other set aside.
tim pool
Well, we've got more breaking news that was earlier in the show, but we got to get to him as we get to him.
There's a lot to cover.
Trump has surrendered.
The Atlantic reports, Greg Bovino has lost his job.
He is being pulled out.
He will not, he has been out from his role as commander at large.
We'll be returning to El Centra with others such as saying, all right, he may have been fired.
Now, Tricia McLaughlin says he is not relieved of his duties, but he is being pulled out.
Tom Homan is being sent in.
And I believe I don't have the posts from Trump.
I got so many posts.
So much stuff is going on.
We have this post from Donald Trump who said, I said a very good telephone conversation with Mayor Jacob Frey of Minneapolis.
Lots of progress is being made.
Tom Homan will be meeting with him tomorrow in order to continue discussion.
Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Trump.
And then I don't know if we have, there's an additional post he made where he said he received, Trump says he received a call from Tim Waltz and that they were negotiating and Tom Homan was going to come in and help settle this down.
So it is largely being viewed as an overt surrender, the removal of Bavino, Homan being sent in to negotiate with the local government.
Looks like Trump has standing down.
phil labonte
I hate the idea of any perceived weakness from the administration.
I think that part of the reason why he's making the changes that he's making is because of the way the PR has been handled.
A lot of people have been complaining about the things that ICE officers have been saying to the press.
And I think that that's likely why, not because they're not handling the actual application of law properly.
But I hate the fact that it looks like Trump is backing down.
And I hate the fact that he's talking to Frey about this stuff.
Like the administration is completely in the right in trying to get the illegals out of Minneapolis.
So to back down, I think it just makes him look weak.
libby emmons
Yeah, well, it's a signal to Kathy Hochul and Gavin Newsom and Abigail Spanberger and all the rest of them that they should go ahead and engage in these kinds of things.
And if that means turning some of their citizens into martyrs in order to fight back against the federal government and expose what is apparently the weakness of the federal government, then that's what they need to do.
tim pool
Donald Trump is not Lincoln.
He's Buchanan, and I stand by that.
I tweeted that and a bunch of people were like, high school referenced him and you can't say that.
Buchanan is largely considered one of the, if not the worst president in U.S. history.
And the reason I say this is we have gotten to a point where I'll tell you guys, look, obviously I'm not voting Democrat.
These people are whack-aloons.
And Trump certainly is better than what they offer, but they're not in.
And I think it's fair to say that Biden is substantially worse.
Trump's actually not bad, but we are dealing with rapid social decay.
Do you guys see silver hitting $118?
I mean, this is nightmare level stuff.
For silver to get to this position, we have to have some kind of psychoanomaly outside of standard economics or mass panic that the U.S. dollar is about to just vaporize.
And we're already at the point where the institutions have made those purchases a long time ago, and now the retail market's starting to buy up silver.
I don't exactly know why.
There's a lot of speculation around it.
The point is, Donald Trump is overseeing the dissolution of the United States and its fragmentation.
We are looking at active insurgency in Minnesota with Donald Trump saying, I'm pulling my guys out, and we're going to have a negotiation.
Great.
That's what Buchanan thought he was going to do.
The guy, Lincoln, Lincoln, first thing he does when he gets in is he goes, send in the troops.
Trump's not that guy.
He didn't do it in his first term.
He ain't doing it in his second term.
Maybe he turns around later on, but I have a feeling Democrats are going to win, tie his hands up, and he's going to be a Buchanan.
viva frei
I'll take a hot take and disagree with all three of you.
I don't view this as capitulation, and I don't mind that the left does view it as capitulation.
What I view this as is sort of like, you know, dad comes home and says, I'm taking mom's position, and now I'm here.
Like, I view Homan as the person who ought to have been there calling the shots from the beginning and not Bavino.
And it would be like saying, if he replaces Pam Bondi with Andrew Bailey, some people might say, well, that's capitulation.
He's like ceding to.
No, I'm saying that you probably want to put the best person in there to avoid the bad PR that they've gotten right now.
And had they done it properly and effectively, then you might have avoided this PR disaster to begin with.
tim pool
Perhaps what's going to happen is Tom Homan meets with Tim Waltz and says, I'm going to shove a boot at your ass.
You're going down.
If you want this war, you're going to get it.
Maybe Homan's going in because Bovino is on the street looking like a fool.
Perhaps.
viva frei
But Bovino had his issues.
Like, you know, allegedly lying under oath, according to a judge, to exaggerate some of the crises that justified the responses, you discredit yourself to be in the position that you're in.
Homan, and it's arguable that Trump ought to have listened to Homan from the beginning and instead was going with Christy Noam's decision making, which is problematic at best.
When you have Chrissy Noam coming out and facilitating the argument that they're lying through their teeth about what's going on, you got to do something.
Homan should have been there from the get-go.
And I don't see this as letting Frey and Walls off the hook at all.
Their beds might be made.
And now you've got someone in there who's going to really bring down the hammer.
tim pool
I am not going to give Trump the benefit of the doubt, assuming that he's going to go in there.
And he, you know, people want to imagine Trump's behind the scenes going, this Bovino guy is screwing everything up.
Homan, get in there and shove your boot up their ass and tell them it's war.
Not happening.
The Epstein files, I think, prove it's not happening.
Trump is behind the scenes saying, don't screw up my plans.
This is getting in the way.
Just walk it back, walk it back.
Tell him Epstein's fake.
And I think what's happening here is Trump's dealing, fairly, I think it's fair to say, he's dealing with Iran and China right now.
Big issues going on with Iran negotiations.
And Trump's sitting here being like, I don't care about your little skirmishes in Minneapolis.
I'm dealing with potential war with Iran.
And we got battleships in the Gulf.
Go deal with it.
And then when Bovino screws it up, he says, get out, Homan, you take care of it.
I'm focused on this.
I think that is likely what Trump is doing.
But this means with an active state-sponsored low-tier insurgency, I'm not going to tell like it's the Taliban or something.
Trump needs to go in and say, your government is in control, and we will not tolerate this.
Instead, he's missing the big picture.
And if, if he really is sending in Holman to put the fist down, it looks like to his already somewhat dejected followers, the black pillars, Dan Boggito calls them, that Trump is once again just surrendering.
And so listen, being a leader is not just about being right.
It's about proving yourself to the people who stand before you.
I just watched Braveheart.
Y'all have seen Braveheart, right?
unidentified
Love Braveheart.
tim pool
And when Mel Gibson, William Wallace, is standing before the Scotsman and he says, if you stand with me and fight, you'll win.
And one guy goes, we'll die.
If we run, we'll live.
And then they all start laughing.
And he's like, okay.
Or, and then he says, you can stand this day and let them know they can take our lives.
I'll never take our friend.
And then everyone cheers and screams and agrees to stand and fight with him.
Or, man, the Patriot.
Talk about the best movie ever.
Sometimes all you need in that scene, when everyone's breaking and Mel Gibson's character grabs the flag and screams no and runs forward and they all watch him and they turn and run, maybe he's wrong, but people see that and they see inspiration.
And what I see right now with the Epstein stuff around Trump, and again, this is very much Beltway insider stuff.
We know there's a viral post.
People care more about the Seahawks than they cared about what's going on with ICE.
In the political space, those that are most active, those that are most willing and likely to support, have watched Trump falter again and again.
I'm not saying he's lost his base.
I'm just saying that there's some people who are just like, are you kidding me?
You're pulling.
They had announced, there was rumor circulating, Trump was going to pull out CBP, the unit completely, not just Bovino, and then reassess.
And then there was some back and forth.
Some people said, no, it's not confirmed yet.
Some journalists were like, we're reaching out to see if this is the case.
Now we know that Bovino is being pulled out.
They're claiming he hasn't lost his job.
Some are arguing he lost his job, though.
To be honest, I don't trust the Atlantic.
Again, I'm sorry.
It just looks like Trump is saying, I surrender.
thomas renz
It absolutely looks like that because he kind of is, right?
I mean, listen, I, on my own dime, ran around the country fighting to get Trump elected.
Why?
Because I wanted accountability.
It's not blackpilling for me to ask legitimate questions.
And, you know, you said something that was really interesting, Tim.
You said it's not Taliban-like insurgency.
Well, you know what?
I don't know.
What do we have there, right?
So we have a lot of foreign nationals.
Know a lot of terrorists were imported across the border when Biden had it open.
We know that for sure.
There's numerous Intel reports on that.
What do we have there?
Now, we're not challenging these guys full-fledged.
All these guys have guns, though.
These guys are armed, paramilitary-type training.
I mean, we don't know what we've got there.
If we push this, if we actually start deporting people on a massive scale, if we actually went in there, what would happen?
How do we know they don't have it?
We have no idea what we're actually facing.
But what we do know is that we elected Donald Trump to clean house.
We elected Donald Trump because we wanted accountability for Democrats, for Republicans, for anybody who was breaking the law.
And what we've got is weak need wussy rear-end response.
See, I caught myself there.
But listen, this is pathetic.
This is an embarrassment.
For over a year now, we've been waiting for prosecutions of anybody of substance, and not once has it happened.
We literally have the most embarrassing Attorney General.
I mean, this is like Merrick Garland part two.
I mean, we have the same people, the same people in the DOJ and FBI that arrested and prosecuted Jay Sixers like this, but they can't do it with these guys.
libby emmons
Well, maybe Bovino is out because he said that thing about how Predty was going to massacre law enforcement, and that does not appear to be true.
I mean, maybe that's more what this is about, perhaps, than capitulating necessarily.
Maybe it has something to do with Bovino's comments.
thomas renz
No, Bovino, I don't even care about Bovino as much as I care about the fact that, you know, we fired 150 or so FBI agents.
There were 5,000 that were involved with J6.
So those 5,000 FBI agents could round up Jay Sixers from all over the country, put them in jail, prosecute them.
There are hundreds and hundreds of them in the first few months.
But this, we have a legit insurgency here, a legit insurrection, and we've got nothing.
tim pool
We've got to stress this too.
J6 was before Biden gets in.
And as soon as he gets in, within months, they're locking people in solitary confinement.
thomas renz
Immediately.
tim pool
The most fingersnapped Biden got these people in jail.
viva frei
The most sprawling investigation in American history.
Firing FBI Agents Failed 00:05:30
viva frei
The reality is, I'm glad you're railing against Pam Bondi because you didn't get nothing.
What you got was Pam Bondi getting on a flight and going to Minnesota to do a hit, not a hit, a piece or a hit with Fox News.
thomas renz
And a strongly worded letter.
phil labonte
That's the most frustrating thing is she did.
viva frei
She actually said she did the meeting.
phil labonte
Very strongly worded.
viva frei
She did the meaning.
And then what happens if he doesn't listen to it?
We'll see then.
We'll send another strongly worded letter.
And then what does Tim Walz do?
He makes fun of her for the failure to deliver on the Epstein files.
I don't mind this.
I don't see it as capitulation.
Homan is the stronger one who should have been there in the first place.
If he's going to reposition and get the right people in charge, maybe Bondi's next, but he's got to get the right people there.
There's no point going in there and making five more martyrs out of different people who are going to be very, you know, who will be celebrated for having been murdered.
tim pool
Are you telling me that I got to run for president of Viva?
Are you saying I have to go do it because no one's getting a job done?
viva frei
No, I lie.
Well, first of all, there's time for Trump yet.
And then we've got JD Vance, who I think probably sees more of the complaining from the base than Trump, who seems to be shielded to his own detriment.
But yeah, you got a guy coming out and saying he was lying about Matthew, about Pretty, embarrassing everybody who repeats it afterwards.
Stephen Miller's got to be embarrassed.
Christy Nomashe's relying on that's got to be embarrassed.
And then you make the administration look like the liars that the left.
tim pool
They're trying to play the left's game.
It doesn't work because the opposition to the left is because of their cult.
The left lies all the time.
Everyone else gets mad.
So what happens is they say, then let's play the same game.
Trump says Trump truths out that Renee, that the agent, Jonathan Ross, got ran over and is lucky to be alive.
Okay, come on.
That's not Bovino who said that.
This is presumably Trump's policy because Trump's the one who said that nonsense.
And then you get his administration all repeating the same nonsense.
I think they were like, hey, if liberals lie, why don't we just lie?
And then they found out the only reason they have support is because their base hates liars.
viva frei
No, I think the guy who got hit by the car, he did get a little more injured than we initially thought.
tim pool
Yeah, but Trump said he got ran over and he's surprised he's alive.
viva frei
Nearly, and look, he could have been killed.
tim pool
He nearly ran over.
viva frei
Set that aside.
Look, there's no capitulating in stopping to make mistakes and then reassess and make, and look, Pam Bondi said they sent subpoenas for Fry and Walls.
I'm sure something's going to come of that.
Hashtag not.
But it might be an indication that Trump understands the wrong people are not doing the jobs right now and it's time to put the right people in.
thomas renz
Or so let me give you two.
Let me give him, let me make a case here.
So do you remember back when Ukraine sent the drones to assassinate Putin?
tim pool
Yeah.
thomas renz
And do you remember afterwards they said to Donald Trump, they said, Trump, what do you think about them trying to assassinate Putin?
He says, what?
I don't know anything about this, right?
And then later, there's another incident, right?
Ukraine sent drones and they attacked Russia's nuclear fleet, which, I mean, could have caused nuclear war, right?
So we've got two instances.
And in both instances, they asked Donald Trump.
He says, well, I don't know.
I haven't been briefed.
I don't know anything about it.
And this is a fair time later, right?
Two instances that could have resulted in global nuclear war and no one bothered to tell the president.
I mean, that's the kind of thing you interrupt a meeting for, right?
It's a global nuclear war.
Maybe we should interrupt a meeting.
Now, I've been talking about this, and I'm going to tell you guys, I'm not, I don't care who wants to call me out and say it's BS because I'm not going to tell you my sources.
I've got more than one source in the White House, senior officials.
They've told me over and over again.
We get the same story over and over again.
Pam Bondi, Susie Wiles, Susie Wiles is the gatekeeper.
She keeps the only thing Trump gets is what Wiles gives her.
And anybody that speaks out like me, well, you've got no access.
You are cut.
You're a black pillar.
You're a monster.
You speak out against Susie Wiles.
And when I dropped the initial stuff on Susie Wiles, because I was asked to investigate some alleged campaign corruption during the campaign, I was asked by friends of Donald Trump because they're worried about him.
So I look in and I keep seeing these things that just don't add up.
And I'm not going to make any accusations, get myself sued here, although I've got the evidence to keep myself out of trouble if they want to try it.
You know, I look at some funky things happening.
Well, it kept going back to the same people.
I'm going to tell you right now, Wiles is blocking.
Nobody gets access to Trump unless it's through Wiles.
This whole thing, I don't think Trump even knows what's going on.
I don't think he's getting proper information.
I think he's, because this is not the guy that we fought for.
This is not the guy who came in in 2016.
He's got a bunch of crooks around him.
And until he wises up, and ultimately he's the boss.
He's the boss.
So until he wises up and figures out, hey, I got a bunch of crooks around me and gets rid of them.
This is the kind of crap we're going to get.
No accountability, useless Pam Bonnie, Pfizer Pam Bondi, who worked for Pfizer right before she went in.
And by the way, did you know that Pfizer-Pam Bondi, right before she worked for Pfizer, she represented them the year before she went in as AG.
Do you know that on the first full day of her work, she changed enforcement priorities in the DOJ?
And suddenly two OFAC investigations into Pfizer disappeared her first day of work.
That's the most substantial work she's done since she's got there.
viva frei
She was counsel in 2021.
thomas renz
And 2024 through a separate firm.
viva frei
And they are not reinstating Brooke Jackson's key TAM fraud lawsuit against Pfizer, which was a Biden-era dismissal.
Pam Bondi's Controversial Priorities 00:15:52
viva frei
I agree.
Bondi is the, she's not just the weakest link.
I mean, arguably the most corrupt link.
The problem with what you're saying is that this was the exact same criticism everybody leveled in Trump's first term.
And the problem would be if he hasn't learned the lesson from the first term or if he, I don't know, he just has more disguised wolves in the hen house.
libby emmons
Who do you like better for AG?
tim pool
Oh, Matt Gates.
libby emmons
Yeah, well, for sure.
thomas renz
Absolutely.
unidentified
Absolutely.
viva frei
Everyone's going to make the potato file joke now and accuse him of it.
And there might be some substantial corruption behind that whole story because I know the details of that whole story.
But he would have been better.
I mean, quite clearly.
Andrew Bailey would be better.
libby emmons
We do hear.
viva frei
Robert Barnes would be better.
tim pool
We do hear about it.
viva frei
He was right.
He was right about Bovino.
I mean, I was going to say before we went live, Bovino's out.
Barnes called it.
The guy should not have been there.
libby emmons
We do hear an awful lot more about Venezuela and Greenland and foreign adversaries than we hear about domestic policy.
And I think that Americans elected Trump primarily to say, you know, foreign policy, we're going to put that on the back burner for a while.
Let's really deal with what's going on in America.
And that is still, I think, what I think that's still what we want.
thomas renz
America first.
What the hell are we even talking about?
Who cares about Greenland?
Why are we even talking about Greenland?
libby emmons
I'm not necessarily opposed to Americanas and go get some more territory.
Our last Tory territorial acquisition was what, like the Northern Mariana Islands in the 80s or something like that.
Like, by all means, go get some territory.
Why not?
But that doesn't mean that you can allow Minnesota to stage an all-handed territory.
thomas renz
How the hell are we going to take care of Greenland?
viva frei
Well, Greenland is going to take away from the city.
libby emmons
Greenland is only 58,000 people and it's a homogenous population.
There's not a ton of immigrants.
viva frei
If they buy Greenland for a million bucks a person, I think you can get a lot of Americans to move to Greenland for a million bucks.
libby emmons
Is there skiing up there?
viva frei
I don't.
tim pool
There will be.
There could be.
viva frei
The issue is that.
thomas renz
Hot Springs.
libby emmons
Yeah, why not?
Let's go for it.
viva frei
The issue is that you're right.
And there's been a lot of talk about foreign policy.
A lot of it is arguably not in America's best interest, but arguably it is.
And you make the argument for Iran, for Israel, for whatever.
RFK Jr., when he announced his campaign, he said, you know, a country that is at war abroad will never be at peace at home.
And it's because you divert resources, you divert monies.
The problem is with Greenland, I'm on board with Greenland, but you've diluted support for Greenland with issues like Iran strikes and the potential for more war there, which looks like it's going to, and Venezuela.
libby emmons
Didn't we just send a whole Lincoln brigade or whatever over that way?
viva frei
The indicators for war are afoot.
And then you have the people who elected Trump on no new wars all of a sudden saying, oh, no, he meant no new protracted wars.
And America first doesn't mean America only.
And all of a sudden, you can't carry firearms if you're going to large gatherings of people.
thomas renz
But we're not lying with a friend.
libby emmons
I mean, let's go back to that.
That wasn't a large gathering.
That was a directed attempt to impede law enforcement.
And it turns out that the guy that Border Patrol was looking to arrest is still at large.
He escaped.
phil labonte
So like the, yeah.
libby emmons
So it was an efficient.
phil labonte
I just got to push back on that.
You can carry guns to all sorts of public gatherings and protests and stuff like that.
But when you put your hands on law enforcement for whatever reason, right, he put his hands on the guy.
That's what caused all of the mess.
If he'd have gotten up on the sidewalk and just stood back, he'd be alive today.
viva frei
I should have had video footage of what he thought was abuse of a person.
tim pool
I just need you all to see this picture of snow machines making snow in Greenland.
libby emmons
Love it.
tim pool
There is skiing.
This is a ski ski lift.gl.
And one of the photos is they're making snow.
viva frei
What's the elevation of that mountain?
I mean, it looks big in the distance, but typically.
thomas renz
I want to revise my position on Greenland.
I like skiing.
viva frei
No, no, no.
The issue, because it's cold doesn't mean, you know, there's a lot of, I think there's Antarctic deserts that qualify as deserts because they don't have enough precipitation.
So they might be freezing cold, but not a lot of precipitation.
libby emmons
Yeah, so you make some snow and then you're good.
viva frei
The origin of the chemtrail.
libby emmons
Alex, that's gorgeous.
Look at that.
You can see the water while you're skiing.
That's pretty cool.
That's actually very cool.
viva frei
It looks like Northern Canada.
I mean, if everybody's interested in these, he can go acquire.
libby emmons
Canada's next, Viva.
phil labonte
No, no, we are not taking Canada.
No, Greenland is a little bit of a cleaning.
unidentified
Greenland is not a good one.
It's all about the world.
thomas renz
It's the World Economic Forum's North American Economic Zone.
I mean, that's the real reason behind this crap.
I mean, Canada's part of it, so's Mexico.
We can just have one great World Economic Forum-sponsored North American Economic Zone and just finish up the great recession.
viva frei
I mean, Canadians had their chances of the city.
phil labonte
No, Canadians voted for the government.
They're not coming down here voting.
thomas renz
No.
They're not going to vote American.
libby emmons
Puerto Rico doesn't get a vote either, Phil.
I mean, they don't get a vote.
It's like Puerto Rico or D.C. We're going to jump to this next video.
phil labonte
Fair enough.
tim pool
We got this video clip coming out of Minnesota, my friends.
This is what happens when a person tries to grab a flashbang from law enforcement after they've thrown it.
viva frei
Now she's asking for help.
unidentified
Mother.
Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my god!
phil labonte
So, flashbangs and tear gas canisters.
Those things are specifically designed to suck.
Do not pick up things that are designed to suck.
libby emmons
Flashbang.
What is it?
tim pool
It's a concussion.
You throw it, it goes bang.
viva frei
Imagine trying to block a Roman candle with your finger or hold like an M150 when it's detonating.
I don't want to make the mean jokes.
People were saying this is a Darwin Award.
I said it doesn't qualify as a Darwin award because she can still procreate.
tim pool
All right.
I got a question for you.
This is my point.
The reason why I want to highlight this because I'm sure everybody gets a good idea that a lot of people are laughing at it.
Well, and it's also because not just her hand is all injured and people are like, justice, but that she's flailing around like in agony, suffering, and people are just like laughing at it.
My question is this: you've got 1,000 astute, well-reasoned individuals on one side of a field.
On the other side of the field, you have 1,000 potential Darwin award winners, and a fight breaks out.
Who wins?
phil labonte
The Darwin Award winners.
tim pool
Unquestionably, the Darwin Award winners are going to win that fight.
My question to conservatives is: how many people on the right are willing to pick up a live grenade to try and throw it cops?
thomas renz
Not me.
phil labonte
Zero.
libby emmons
Definitely won't do it.
tim pool
They've got them in spades.
So when it, like, everybody's making fun of this lady, and I'm like, dude, they laugh and they go, if the Civil War ever broke out, we have the guns.
Yes, and they've got Darwin Award winners.
viva frei
I'm going to push back a second time in the night.
This displays not steadfast belief in a cause, but stupidity.
tim pool
And zombies are also stupid.
And that's the same thing.
viva frei
Yeah, but the problem with the zombies is they don't get taken out by a flashbang.
You're dealing with people who are cosplaying revolutionaries because they just watched one battle after another.
And you're picking up a picking up.
tim pool
It doesn't matter if they're not.
viva frei
And then she comes running to the cops, but she comes running to the very same cops that she was just kidding.
tim pool
She's not running to the cops.
viva frei
No, she's asking for help from the street medics.
tim pool
And I see this conservatives going, they're yelling medics like she's in a war zone.
They are treating it like a war zone, and you are not.
And that's why they're going to run right over you.
phil labonte
Calling this a LARP is wrong because LARPing is live action role-playing.
These people are not playing.
tim pool
This lady tried to throw a grenade at police.
thomas renz
So what's this thing?
tim pool
Well, let me put it like this.
The presumption is: if you are picking up a grenade, typically it's because activists are trained to lob them back at cops.
Now, I don't know exactly what she was doing.
Maybe she's like, oh, look at this.
Bang!
In her hand, or whatever.
We don't actually see that part of the video.
It is well known, and I've seen it happen a million times.
The agitators will see a tear gas canister fly and they bring gloves and they'll pick it up and they'll lob it back at the cops.
And the cops are wearing gas masks because of this.
So the presumption is she was like, I am going to throw a grenade at police.
thomas renz
At the end of the day, we got to distinguish, right?
So, I mean, there's the legit Darwin Award winners, and then there's, you know, the college liberal weenies that are that are out there, and they're going to fold like paper, right?
So the liberal weenie activists, I think, will fold like, but then, you know, you do have some of these guys that are hardcore, not jobs.
Now, let me say between the two of you, right?
I split the difference.
I think some of these guys are super dangerous.
I mean, look at the Taliban, right?
They beat the Soviet Union.
They held us to a standstill.
These people live in caves.
And I mean, they're just, it's not even close, right?
Like technologically, militarily, it's not even close.
But you know what?
How long were we in Afghan and we didn't beat them?
phil labonte
Right.
thomas renz
So, I mean, these psychopaths, they fight.
phil labonte
I got to push back on that.
The reason that we, quote unquote, lost Afghanistan is because we were trying to treat, we were trying to make those people into Jeffersonian democracy-loving people.
And they are not.
Every single military engagement the U.S. got in, they absolutely won.
So I, and people say that a lot.
People say, oh, you know, the U.S. lost this and the U.S. lost that.
The politics the U.S. lost.
tim pool
Do not slightism lost that.
phil labonte
Do not get it twisted that the military loses engagements because it just does not.
tim pool
Did you hear?
viva frei
Who was it that said if in response to the Predi shooting, if a soldier had done that in Afghanistan, they would have been court-martialed.
Did you hear that?
There was a politician who said that.
And like, I forget who it was.
And when I was listening to that, I said, that's exactly why they were not able to succeed in certain conflicts because you had to go through a chain of command protocol before firing on somebody who was clearly posing a threat to you.
tim pool
Ashley Babbitt, who was unarmed and shot and killed, and they celebrate her death still to this day.
viva frei
Yeah, they called her a domestic terrorist at the time.
Equate her to good, Renee Good.
Although, you know, again, even with Ashley Babbitt, it was a situation of you're doing stupid things and the consequences can spiral out of control real quick.
But as more footage of that came out, even the shot itself wasn't proper because you had cops behind her that could have been easily as hit by that shot as she was.
thomas renz
So, Tim, you know what?
You know what?
It would be kind of cool.
Compare the video of that guy that was resisting arrest got shot with Roseanne Boylan getting beat to death while she was laying on the ground unconscious on J6, right?
So the video of her being beat to death, I mean, she's defenseless on the ground and they just keep clubbing her, right?
This guy is actively fighting that whole time.
Like you said, your description of it, the gun going off, someone yelling gun, gun.
I mean, it's, you know, that one's kind of unfortunate.
tim pool
I thought that he's fighting cops.
thomas renz
Yeah.
tim pool
If he wasn't fighting cops, that's right.
thomas renz
That's right.
It's unfortunate, but you're an idiot.
You did something stupid.
You were breaking numerous laws.
I mean, it absolutely wins in court, in my opinion.
So, you know, but and it's like, you know, the other idiot that tried to run over the guy.
I mean, listen, that wins in court too, in my opinion.
But Roseanne Boylan, I mean, she's literally laying on the ground unconscious, and they keep hitting her.
viva frei
Tom, they said she died of a drug overdose.
thomas renz
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.
I'm sorry.
I forgot about that.
viva frei
Tim, do you do polls?
I do polls.
thomas renz
But George Floyd didn't.
viva frei
I'm picking the non-Darwin Award winners every day of the week to win a fight.
To win a fight.
unidentified
Absolutely.
viva frei
It's the way.
It's the way Homo sapiens, you know, who got rid of this sweetholds.
tim pool
You guys saw something who had this week.
I remember who it was.
It was.
Conservatives treat power the way a wine snob treats alcohol and Democrats treat power the way an alcoholic treats alcohol.
Darvin Darvin, who's going to win that fight?
viva frei
The guy that wants to drink the booze not the guy that wants to be a drink gets too drunk and makes it very easy for someone who's of sound mind to beat.
unidentified
Now you're holding on.
viva frei
I'm still taking the Non-darwin Award winners every day.
tim pool
There's not a single conservative willing to fight cops, not even one time.
libby emmons
There aren't even.
tim pool
There aren't even at least one time.
libby emmons
That's it.
But also, we don't see counter protests.
We don't see, like for a minute, we saw some counter protests in Portland.
I know Katie Davis Court was covering that for post-millennial.
And she was out there, and there were like pro-ICE frat boys and stuff out here and there.
But they're not going out in these zero-degree temperatures to support ICE or to counter-protest these people.
And you were talking about the difference between the Darwin Award winners and the people who went to college.
I would put money on this woman having gone to college.
tim pool
Yeah.
thomas renz
Maybe.
tim pool
I mean, most of them went to college.
libby emmons
Most of them went to college.
tim pool
The issue is there's many factors at play in whether or not someone's willing to run up, grab a grenade, and chuck it at cops.
And it is one principle reason: do you have kids?
Seeing as conservatives have families, conservative men are substantially less willing to engage in a conflict where they would leave their families high and dry.
During the woke tyranny, which, you know, like the late 2010s into COVID, I saw it all the time in our own chat.
I remember saying, I can't speak up at work.
I'll lose my job.
And then, how do my kids eat?
And I'm like, and there you go.
Liberals don't have kids, so they'll scream and quit their jobs.
And it happened.
Famous video of a guy who he had a mask at BLM.
And Taco Bell said, You can't wear the mask.
He says, and I'll walk out.
And they said, then do it.
And then he makes a video.
Everybody loses their mind.
Taco Bell panics, rehires the guy, or offers him his job back.
Not a single conservative was willing to speak out because they were like, I got to take care of myself and my family.
This affords the left a psychotic amount of leeway.
Now, to be fair, 20 years from now, assuming they don't take political power, they'll cease to exist.
The big problem is, if they do win power through kamikaze strikes and stupidity or whatever, just blunt aggression, then they're going to make sure Republicans don't exist.
thomas renz
So, Tim, I'm going to tell you, I did speak out, and I lost a lot fighting on the COVID stuff.
I spoke out a lot.
I got a family and I lost a lot doing it.
But I will tell you that I agree with you, most won't, but some of us will.
The key, though, is that there's some of us, some of us that will stand, period.
And I think those of us on the conservative side, I think there's a smaller number, but there's a number of us on the conservative side, on the freedom side, that will stand.
But those of us that will on this side, we do it on principle, so we'll stand to the bitter end.
There is no, someone may call me a Darwin guy at what at some point, because I'm going to be honest with you.
There are things I won't depend a knee on, period, ever.
And I do think that the conservatives that will fight on principle are probably even more dedicated than these leftist loons.
viva frei
That's why I say having a family is the double-edged sword to some extent.
You're not going to go squander your life for nothing, but you're going to defend your family when you reach that threshold.
And I don't know.
Yeah, these are idiots and they're willing to go out on a cold day and achieve effectively nothing.
And that's what do you mean?
tim pool
Trump pulled both of them.
unidentified
I know out.
viva frei
I still don't believe that that's capitulation.
I think that's re-strategizing and bringing in the right people.
tim pool
Why does he have to do that?
I think the point is why does Trump have to re-strategize at all?
viva frei
Because the screw-up of the PR.
tim pool
He's been routed, is what we call it in conflict.
viva frei
Well, no, I would say he might have arguably, because of the leadership that was on ground there, fell into the trap, gave the PR that the left wanted.
tim pool
Trump's efforts have been routed by the enemy, and he's retreating and reassessing.
And sometimes you have to retreat, and that's fair.
But the point is, it shouldn't have happened.
thomas renz
No, we should have immediately had prosecutions for some of these networks the day he came in.
tim pool
And we know they exist in other states, networked with each other.
And have we seen any high-profile perp walks for Antifa?
How Are You Making America Great? 00:03:55
viva frei
Don't let's get going.
We can talk about Pam Bondi being the worst, you know, being worse than Bill Barr.
tim pool
It's not even just Pam Bondi, though.
There's no single anti-financier in coughs on a purple hole.
viva frei
Well, you had Kash Patel talking about it again on OAN, like, oh, yes, we got to go after the money.
No shit, Sherlock.
We've been saying go after the money for 10 years now, going after George Soros, open society.
And the problem is it's unclear as whether or not there's been a shift of the people that we had faith in, but everyone was very excited when Kash Patel got in there.
You know, people were less excited with Pan Bondi, but giving her the benefit of the doubt, something happened or they were never there to begin with to actually do what they promised to do.
Cash coming out and saying, yeah, follow the money.
Okay.
You've been there a year now.
How long are you going to take to follow the money?
Because midterms are coming around and then 2028 is coming around.
And then the money that's still there is going to be used to defeat you in the next midterms and the next election.
thomas renz
So you know what?
Let me be a conspiracy theorist for a minute, right?
So if we wait just a little bit longer, just a little bit, by the time they actually try and save face and arrest anybody of importance, it'll be after the midterms before anything's getting done.
Well, then we'll have a Democrat Congress.
So they don't have to do anything anyways.
I think these people are undermining Trump intentionally.
I mean, listen, and Cash was on the Reawaken tour with me.
I mean, I was on the Reawaken tour.
I can't say I know him well, but, you know, we had a lot of hope when Cash came in, a lot of hope.
And I can't, to say I'm disappointed is, I mean, that's like the most epic of all the people because he was there.
He was a warrior speaking on this stuff.
You know, he talked a good game, but, you know, but so I was real excited about Bongino, too.
Now Bongino's out there attacking people who are asking why, you know, the MEGA administration isn't doing.
How are you making America great again when you're letting this crap happen?
How are you making America great again when you're letting billionaires who rape children go free?
How are you making America great again when we continue when you back someone like Lindsey Graham?
How are we making America great again?
When we pass, did you all know we got digital ID now?
It's pinned to the top of my Twitter profile.
You can see I lay it all out.
The law now is in place in the United States where we have digital ID.
These are not things that are mega.
We're not doing mega.
I'm praying because, you know, listen, I fought for Trump.
I want him to come back to MAGA.
I want him to get back to where he was.
But it isn't going to happen when he's got a bunch of crooks around him that are undermining him every step.
viva frei
I think it's intentional.
If you want to go conspiratorial, this is Robert Barnes' idea we discussed it last night on our show.
But if you wanted to make it look, if you deep down didn't actually want to get rid of illegal immigrants because you enjoy exploiting them for cheap labor, like kids in Europe.
Well, let's go with cheap labor because the votes doesn't favor the Republicans, but cheap labor might favor some rhinos.
If you wanted to actually not get rid of the problem, but make it look like you were trying to fight the problem while producing the exact opposite results, what would you be doing differently than what just happened in Minnesota?
thomas renz
Nothing.
viva frei
And so, you know, this is the idea that there's a lot of rhinos who want cheap labor for corporate, you know, their own corporate buddies, and you don't really want to get rid of all the illegals.
You had Trump discuss keeping them for hospitality and for agriculture, then taking a lot of blowback from the base.
Well, here's a way to make sure that you don't actually successfully get rid of deporting anybody because the optics are so bad.
And maybe that is the deep down conspiracy.
Hypothetically.
thomas renz
I can one-up your conspiracy theory.
I can one-up you.
So I don't know.
Does everybody here accept that there's election fraud?
viva frei
Do you think that the elections are unimpeachable?
You can't speak of that.
thomas renz
So, yeah, I know we can't.
Clearly, the elections are perfect.
But I mean, do you think that it doesn't happen in the primaries?
If it happens in the general, you think it doesn't have to happen in the primaries?
Now, let me ask you a question.
If you believe in election fraud and you think it happens in the primaries, too, why do you think that Republicans, when they have the majority of the House, the majority of the Senate and the presidency, still can't pass election reform laws?
Real Id And Save Act 00:05:08
thomas renz
I'll just leave it there.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, it does seem like more senators are getting onto the SAVE Act.
So there's a little bit of a ray of hope, I guess.
libby emmons
Then it's going to have to be enforced.
thomas renz
The SAVE Act now has a penalty.
libby emmons
And we already have a situation where most of these states where when voter rolls are requested, they are denying the Trump administration access to those voter records.
thomas renz
Bingo.
Not only that, but it also has a component to push more digital ID.
So the Real ID system is set up.
Guess what?
Public-private partnership, where a nonprofit coordinates data sharing between the states.
So there's no federal database.
It's done through a public-private partnership with a nonprofit, which means, you know, we have all sorts of litigation issues.
But guess what?
It's still happening.
The new SAVE Act, which I support, we need the SAVE Act, but the enforcement's weak and it promotes Real ID, which is, I'm sorry, Real ID is an absolute disaster.
tim pool
Why do you think so?
thomas renz
Because it provides biometric data and digital track and trace.
viva frei
But do they not already have that?
Do they not already have that on everybody?
phil labonte
Well, part of the situation.
thomas renz
Go ahead.
phil labonte
Well, part of the situation right now, honestly, is like you get boomers and Gen Z that are like, no, no, no, we don't want digital tracking, blah, blah, blah.
Then when you get to younger millennials and I'm sorry, not Gen Z, but Gen X. When you get to younger millennials, Gen X and Gen Alpha, they don't care.
They really don't care about privacy the way that older people do.
I'm 50, right?
And so like I actually do care about that.
But at the same time, I'm walking around with this all the time.
You know, I had Amazon Alexa for a while.
Like the idea that you are going to have, that we're going to continue to have the privacy that we enjoyed 20, 30, 40 years ago, it's gone because as the boomers and Gen X gets older, younger millennials and Gen Z just don't care.
So I understand what you're saying, but they don't even think about it.
Young people don't even think about it.
tim pool
You hear about that guy who drove his car into Maine?
I think it was Maine, and then just got out and walked in the woods.
And he was notorious for living with like never lit a fire, living.
libby emmons
For 27 years.
tim pool
Yeah, for 27 years.
And he would go to cabins when no one's there, gently break in, take some food, and then leave.
And half the cabin owners were like arrested.
The other half would actually put extra food out with a note saying stay as long as you'd like, but he never would.
He got caught after 27 years because of technology.
Because at a certain point, people started getting it's the ubiquity of cameras and trail cams and just general like satellite tracking stuff.
Eventually someone was like, we can see where he would walk on stones and tree roots that nobody could track him.
And they found him.
phil labonte
Yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah, I feel bad for that guy.
I mean, you should be able to wander off into the woods of Maine and live on your own for 27 years and not bother anybody.
tim pool
Well, he was stealing from cabins.
Yeah, but like he was a cabin keeper.
viva frei
That's how they remunerated him with food.
libby emmons
I get that.
And like, that's, you know, that's not great and whatever.
But like, you should be able to just go wander off and not bother anybody and not be bothered.
Like in America, that should be possible.
phil labonte
I understand what you're saying.
But again, this is an idea that with young people, it's totally foreign to them.
The idea of actual privacy.
libby emmons
Yes, because we have failed, but that doesn't mean that.
phil labonte
It's not because we failed.
It's because modern society doesn't allow for that.
People want the things that their iPhone, that the internet, that are offered by these new technologies and these new technologies, whether you like it or not, come with constant logging and constant interaction with cell phone towers.
That's the price.
libby emmons
Meanwhile, we can walk around our homes with our iPhones in our hands being like, where's my phone?
I can't find it.
Yeah, it's right there.
phil labonte
Not only that.
Not only that.
Nowadays, the technology exists to take a Wi-Fi router, connect to the Wi-Fi router, in your home, and they can model what was inside of your house is just like in the Batman movie.
So, look, the idea that you have any kind of privacy, if you want privacy, you must totally disconnect everything except for maybe the electrical service to your house.
And nobody's not going to be able to do it.
Nobody's prepared to do that.
viva frei
No, but that doesn't even do anything.
You just need to be in the backdrop of a picture that someone posts to Facebook and they're going to have everything about you.
And by the way, all that technology, they still can't find the guy who brought cocaine into the White House.
And it took them five years to find Brian Cole Jr., the alleged pipe bomb password.
tim pool
Of course, they know.
libby emmons
We all know who brought coins.
Come on.
viva frei
A needle there.
But no, the thing about privacy is gone.
Your biometrics are already there.
When you travel, they're there.
They scan you when you come back into America.
phil labonte
I don't have a real ID and I've been holding off forever.
And I've had to fly and they do the whole like here.
You don't have a real ID.
In New Hampshire, they pushed it back as far as possible to have the real ID.
I have to renew my ID in April and I'm going to get a real ID because I have to.
It's the only option.
thomas renz
So do we just give it up?
We All Know Who Brought Coins 00:05:39
thomas renz
Because I mean, here's what's happened, right?
COVID happened because we, and when I talk about COVID, the lockdowns, all that stuff happened, because we sat on our butts.
We turned that.
We don't want to put, you know what?
Nobody cares.
Just let it happen.
Let this happen.
It's getting worse, right?
So there's been no accountability for COVID.
$15 to $30 trillion worth of T changed hands during COVID, globally, depending on your estimates.
libby emmons
15 to 30 trillion of what?
thomas renz
15 to 30 trillion dollars worth of T change hands globally, depending on the estimates during COVID.
Not one, listen, we know, I know because I was involved with breaking it all, that it was created in the lab in Wuhan with help from our CIA, our U.S. USAID, EcoHealth Alliance.
It was a public-private partnership.
We know the whole thing about it.
We know that it was there.
We know that the mRNA vaccines were created years before.
I know because I literally testified under oath in Congress over it.
We know that they knew early on that these things weren't safe and effective.
We stood and we let things go, right?
So we let it all go, and then they stole an election over it.
They did all sorts of things with it.
This stuff happens again unless we take a stand.
We elected Donald Trump to put a stop to get accountability to make sure that we were going to have free and fair elections, that we would never have COVID things again, that we would stop this illegal immigration, that we'd get our economy.
The one thing he is doing, I think we'll have a good economy this year.
I like what he's doing there.
And I do think he's done some decent things foreign policy-wise.
tim pool
I don't think the economy is going to be good.
thomas renz
You don't think it'll come back?
viva frei
Silver is at unleashing.
What silver is that?
My grandmother, she didn't leave it to me because I just took it.
It was a little like Chivas Regal bag of silver dollars, Canadian silver dollars.
Those are going to be worth something now.
They were worth like $6 for the longest time.
tim pool
This is so I, we had a gold silver sponsor a while ago, and they come and go because they do like multi-month.
They'll be like three months and then they'll come back, you know, six months later or something.
And so they wanted me to have, they're like, do you have, you have silver for silver?
I was like, yeah, I got a bunch of silver.
And they were like, show it off when you're doing the reads.
I was like, okay.
So this little stack of silver, it is 20 silver coins.
20 silver coins.
viva frei
When I bought it, that's 20, 20, what is it, 2,200 bucks?
tim pool
Just about, yeah.
Well, no, no, that would be 20 coins would be 106 each.
thomas renz
What?
phil labonte
They're ounce coins?
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah.
So 20 ounces.
tim pool
Times 106.
Is that the current price?
phil labonte
Well, yeah.
viva frei
Well, that's good.
You don't want to be a fucking idea.
tim pool
I'm just saying that when I bought it, it was $23 or whatever per coin.
It was like $500 for a stack.
It's $110?
phil labonte
Oh, my God.
viva frei
See, this promise, I'm looking for a gold and silver sponsor that's going to make, I will want one-ounce silver and gold suppositories.
So that way you can smuggle them out of the country easily.
tim pool
This is insane.
viva frei
We'll call them Vivisipository, Golden Silver Sponsorship.
libby emmons
We'll buy a bunch of that.
viva frei
That's a good idea.
libby emmons
We'll call the Somalis.
We'll buy a bunch of that, and then they can dispense with the suitcases full of cash.
And they can just go with the Viva suppositor.
viva frei
Yeah, you just Viva.
phil labonte
As soon as you cross the border, Disavow.
viva frei
Look how crazy this is.
tim pool
Silver's at 110.
You're right.
It's 2200.
viva frei
I don't know why that matters how much silver's at.
tim pool
110.63.
phil labonte
There's been a lot of talk.
unidentified
Gold, too.
phil labonte
Yeah, there's been a lot of talk amongst like gold and silver bugs, not recently, but 10 years ago, people were complaining because silver was not keeping up with the price of gold.
As gold increased, silver was being that people were saying that the market was being depressed.
I think that some of this is that has whatever the whatever was keeping low price.
tim pool
China's not exporting anymore, so the demand is constrained.
phil labonte
Okay.
tim pool
But I think for moves like this, I think what likely happened is institutional power said, we need silver.
phil labonte
Yeah, well, I mean, look, it's weird for metals to be acting like crypto.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
You know, honestly, because it's like now the market cap for gold and silver is above what the market cap for all crypto is, which is kind of crazy.
viva frei
Conspiracy.
They're buying up silver.
They're going to plate it with gold and they're going to stick it back in the safes at Fort Knox to make it look like they have what they're going to do.
tim pool
Just do copper.
viva frei
Look, my plan is better.
tim pool
Mine's more expensive.
That's crazy, man.
thomas renz
That graph was only the five-day.
What's the five-year?
phil labonte
Yeah.
It looks like some crypto.
Bro, look at this.
tim pool
Look at this.
I kid you not.
When I bought this stuff, it was like $23.
I was like, oh, I'm going to buy a bunch of these.
thomas renz
I thought, and I didn't look at this.
I don't know for sure, but I thought I heard that.
tim pool
It was less.
I bought it in $22.
I think I bought it at like $18.
thomas renz
I heard one of the banks had oversold the paper, and that's part of what's contributing to it.
tim pool
Man.
phil labonte
There was a time where people, I had a P.O. box, and I told people that if they sent me two silver dimes or one silver quarter, I would give them an autograph, autograph picture.
It was like a couple bucks for at the time, it was like four or five bucks for everything.
So it was like, you know, four or five bucks, I'll send you a picture.
And now I've got a lot of silver dimes and quarters because of it.
tim pool
Copper apparently is going to skyrocket too.
People are saying copper's at six bucks.
It's not really moving in any kind of dramatic fashion.
viva frei
Nothing cool about owning copper.
tim pool
I bought a bunch of copper, though.
Because it's just dirt cheap.
It's more expensive to ship.
Big, heavy copper ingots.
It's funny.
phil labonte
Because of Ian, right?
tim pool
Yeah.
Ian was like, you got to buy copper.
And I did.
It went up.
So I made some money.
You know, it's up 30, 40% in the past year.
I think it was like...
viva frei
How much is copper necessary for the production of ammunition?
phil labonte
I don't know.
Copper And Flash Grenades 00:03:37
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
Copper?
phil labonte
Copper jackets, but that's it.
tim pool
Yeah, it's more so that we use it for wiring.
And so with AI expansion.
libby emmons
Yeah, actually, all over the Pacific Northwest, I remember for a while Ari Hoffman was covering the incessant copper wire theft.
People were breaking into homes and breaking into like construction sites and stripping all of the copper wiring out.
phil labonte
South Africa dudes are dying over that.
They try and get live.
They're trying to get live copper wires.
libby emmons
Oh, that's not smart.
phil labonte
No, it's not smart at all.
libby emmons
It's not a clever move.
viva frei
That's almost as dumb as picking up a flash grenade and trying to throw it back barehanded.
thomas renz
That's kind of special, that flash grenade thing.
viva frei
Well, I've seen, like, I'm a glutton for punishment and like watching these videos of people doing stupid things like getting their hands blown off by fire works.
To let kids know these things are not just, you know, toys, they'll blow your freaking fingers into like all it's crazy.
But yeah, I've seen a lot of that stuff.
tim pool
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Let's grab some rants and chats.
We got Dominion After Dark saying, Viva Fry told me he likes to get.
I don't know if I'm going to read that.
viva frei
Spell it out.
Spell it out.
tim pool
Something about Anton.
viva frei
Oh, Anton's meat.
Is that from Dominant One?
tim pool
Dominion After Dark?
unidentified
Oh, okay.
viva frei
That might be as that on Commitube or is that on?
tim pool
It's on Rumble.
viva frei
All right.
Well, that's Anton's meat is Bill Tong.
Bill Tong's Tom.
tim pool
Oh, I love Bill Tong.
viva frei
It's amazing.
tim pool
This guy over here, he knows what it's all about.
viva frei
Yeah, it's Bill Tongusa.com.
He's a guy he always gives Rumble rants when I go live.
And the jokes are everybody loves Anton's meat and everything.
tim pool
And then what's that other one?
unidentified
The Dry Wars?
viva frei
Oh, yeah, the Dry Wars is the other.
So you got the Bill Tong, and then you got the sauce.
tim pool
This guy's from South Africa.
He knows what it's all about.
viva frei
Okay, so you know Anton's.
tim pool
Well, hold on.
viva frei
Let me make sure that you're talking.
tim pool
Bro, he used to bring in big stacks of Bill Tong.
Everybody would just eat it non-stop.
unidentified
That stuff was good.
tim pool
Yeah.
viva frei
Bill Tongusa.com.
Negotiating From Weakness 00:06:12
viva frei
It's made in Texas.
It's delicious.
And if you can see that, I don't know who can see that.
It's like eating a tender, beautiful beef jerky that doesn't hurt your jaw to eat.
tim pool
Yeah, tender and delicious.
NNY says, Dear Tim, please inform Viva I still resent him.
Not for being Jewish.
I am angry.
He is older than me and has a full head of hair.
I can't get over it.
viva frei
Have you told you I was Jewish, sir?
tim pool
Have you considered just wearing a beanie?
Maybe.
You know, give it a try.
viva frei
Or a wig.
There's nothing wrong with being haul cap.
No, I was going to say there's a number of people who wear it well.
Bruce Willis was one, and Phil, you're another.
I feel sure.
phil labonte
I do have a positively shaped head.
viva frei
I would love to touch my squad now.
phil labonte
My squashes are in.
Again, disavow.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
We got Laura 850 says, My son literally blew his hand off throwing a firework.
In real life, he nearly bled out.
He has a cool prosthetic kind of metallic.
Oh, wow.
Got to be careful.
viva frei
You ever seen videos of people punching windows because they think it's funny and then they sever their brachial art up?
Like, how fast you can die from that?
You see that video once.
tim pool
You'll never do it again.
I know a dude who kicked a window and his foot went through.
And you know what happened when he pulled it out?
unidentified
Oh, God.
viva frei
It pulled everything off.
It pulled the skin off or whatever.
tim pool
No, no, it sliced straight down his leg and split his whole leg open.
thomas renz
I punched through a car window when I was a kid in college.
I came out with unscathed, but I got not to make a joke about age.
viva frei
Did they have tempered glass when we were younger?
thomas renz
Yeah, this was, I don't know what year it would have been.
Early college, so yeah.
tim pool
1961, maybe?
thomas renz
It was 48.
This is a model T.
tim pool
Yeah.
thomas renz
It's 1906.
tim pool
What do we have here?
Speed Bump says, question for Phil.
I understand your concerns with acquiring Canada, but if China were to establish themselves militarily, would you then favor annexation?
libby emmons
They've already established themselves in Canada economically.
phil labonte
Just so long as they're like Puerto Rico, they can't vote.
I would except for Alberta.
tim pool
No annexation.
libby emmons
Not even Alberta.
tim pool
No subjugation.
phil labonte
They can join the United States if they can't vote.
tim pool
I'm talking about people in suits working in factories making poutine mass-produced for the American masses.
viva frei
I was going to make a light-hearted reference that would be taken out of context and used as a sound clip forever, but no, you just shut off the borders.
I mean, America controls the sea and Chinese influence in Canada is relegated to technological.
And then what happens to a nation that's effectively cut off from the rest of the world could happen.
But, you know, the problem is.
libby emmons
What did you think of Carney at the World Economic Forum last week?
viva frei
He got, I mean, I see he got bitch slapped the way he deserved.
It's nice that he can come up with a soundbite and try to own Trump.
The dude has to understand that he is negotiating from and speaking from a position of weakness.
And there's nothing wrong with that.
libby emmons
He knows that.
That's why he call himself from a middle country, you know?
viva frei
But he's from a middle country, knowing that he's out there sleeping with she or sucking at she's teeth and um, and basically, you know, not just burning bridges with, with Trump, but turning Canada into the national security threat for America that I said it has been for a long time now, you know, but you go out and you play tough and you talk big and then Trump comes in and reminds you you, you don't like hearing it.
Your security exists because of us, whether you like it or absolutely so don't don't, don't mouth off and show a little respect and we can have good relationships not going to be on equal footing because we're not on equal footing.
tim pool
I think we should shut down the border just for trade for maybe like two years, because then uh, Canada can reassess its priorities and uh, I think that would that would cure it.
viva frei
You shut down the border and you don't let Canada bleed its people on terror watch lists that they've let into the country with no vetting leak into the?
U.s.
Keep them in Canada.
See how much.
tim pool
I'm just saying it's.
It's.
The trade with us is very is is largely.
Look uh, i'll make this point.
We import aluminum from Canada only because we, we cut a deal to fake Fake a trade requirement.
Canada doesn't have any bauxite mines.
They import from China and Brazil and then bring them to their refineries.
We can build aluminum refineries.
We have bauxite mines in Louisiana and we could import the rest.
Why are we doing these fake deals with Canada?
It's so that Canada can have access to the American financial markets and benefit.
We cut the border off.
I'm actually half joking, but you shut the border down for trade for a couple years.
People in Canada will get real thin real quick.
They'll get angry and reprioritize what they're doing.
viva frei
It's the unfortunate reality is that you're dealing with a country that is half of the GDP of California, you know, that spans what it spans.
And there's nothing wrong with it.
But in negotiations, you have different tactics, you have different positions of leverage, and you can't overplay your hand and then threaten to sleep with the enemy of America in order to make up for the bridge that you've just burnt with them.
tim pool
Yeah, I mean, that's good too.
Or we could wipe out veganism in Canada once and for you.
unidentified
There we go.
There we go.
tim pool
They're going to be eating elk.
They're going to caribou.
There's no food left.
You've got limited farmland and no access to the American food market or California, and they're going to be eating meat.
phil labonte
Tim, we should do that just on principle.
viva frei
They'll go back to baby seals.
I mean, I remember there was a fish market in Montreal that I used to go and start whaling.
No, they sold seal at this place, and I tasted it.
I was going to make a cooking video with it, and I was like, no, the amount of the amount, this was back in the day before I was even remotely political.
The amount of flack that I would have gotten from eating seal, despite the fact that it was actually ethically caught by the natives up north.
I mean, who was, yeah, it was caught up north by the natives who have their clubbing season when they do to preserve the balance of nature.
You try to argue that to vegetarians, let alone vegans.
But no, the thing is, Canada's got wonderful resources.
tim pool
Maple syrup.
viva frei
We own 70% of that market.
libby emmons
You know what's crazy is that the thing where Canadians are vegan is kind of like the thing Howard Luttnick was saying to the EU about going solar and wind.
Strawberry Chocolate Vanilla 00:03:04
libby emmons
How do you go solar and wind when you can't even make a battery?
You know, like, what are you growing?
tim pool
Well, they could do air batteries.
It's a really cool thing that I watched.
Air batteries use compressed air in tanks to store energy.
So they get solar or wind.
And then with the excess energy, it powers a compressor, which just pumps air into a pressurized fat, which they seal.
And then when they want the power back, they can release it and it which then spins a turbine.
Yeah.
libby emmons
Well, the EU doesn't make any batteries.
They don't make any lithium batteries.
tim pool
Well, that's what I'm saying.
You don't need to use, you don't need chemical batteries or anything like that.
libby emmons
They're not doing any of that either.
unidentified
Chemical batteries.
libby emmons
They need you over there.
You could use the same thing.
tim pool
I'm just saying.
libby emmons
First, you run for president of the U.S., then you do this whole Pax Americanus thing, and you take over Europe.
tim pool
The first thing I would do is beither.
libby emmons
I think it's fair.
viva frei
Cilantro is the greatest.
I don't even know what is it.
It's not a spice.
tim pool
Listen, I take it.
I'm referring to it.
Anyone caught transporting or consuming any amount of cilantro?
Capital offense.
libby emmons
Now, this is your new suppository.
Now it's cilantro.
viva frei
I put cilantro on everything.
I eat it raw.
Out of luck, you are.
It's very delicious.
phil labonte
Jail.
tim pool
We'll throw you.
viva frei
Hold on a second.
tim pool
I'll defenestrate you.
viva frei
Which one's the raw version?
Coriander's raw or cilantro?
tim pool
I think coriander is like the stem part.
Same thing.
viva frei
Whatever.
It's all delicious.
tim pool
Yeah, out the window.
You are defenestrated.
That is the penalty for.
thomas renz
I might protest for my salsa.
I make a mean salsa, but I got a little bit.
tim pool
You don't have to use cilantro.
thomas renz
Oh, you got to have a little bit.
Just a fan.
tim pool
Fennel, anise, caraway seeds, gone.
libby emmons
All of those things.
viva frei
I happen to agree with you on fennel.
Fennel I could do without it.
It tastes too much like black licorice.
libby emmons
I'll say that.
viva frei
I'm hearing you say Anise is gone.
tim pool
Anise is licorice.
libby emmons
You know what's the worst?
It's when people try and give you a Christmas cookie and then it's Anise in the Christmas cookie and you're like, why do you hate me?
What is your problem?
What's wrong with the butter cookie with a little icing?
tim pool
What is the problem?
libby emmons
It's Christmas and you're giving me this.
tim pool
Mint, too.
unidentified
Terrible.
Mint is gone.
phil labonte
Mint is gone.
tim pool
You know, I went to an ice cream.
libby emmons
I was like the mint gum.
viva frei
No, no, you're not sure if you consume mint.
Like, you brush your teeth with mint, but eating things that are minty is gross.
tim pool
See, I was at an ice cream place with my wife, and we're all excited.
And I'm like, what flavors do they have?
Strawberry, chocolate, vanilla.
And I'm like, a little boring.
And then they got Rocky Road.
And I get all excited.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
It wasn't mint.
It was Rocky Road mint.
libby emmons
That's a cost.
tim pool
I picked up a garbage can.
I smashed the window.
phil labonte
I punched the guy.
tim pool
I flipped everything.
No, I ordered strawberry and I enjoyed it.
unidentified
I like a strawberry.
libby emmons
I like a strawberry.
tim pool
Real strawberries in it.
I like it when they do that.
viva frei
Maraschino cherry was always my favorite growing up, but strawberry was the closest.
libby emmons
Maraschino cherry.
thomas renz
You know what's really good ice cream?
It's pistachio.
tim pool
It is, yeah.
thomas renz
I was surprised.
It's green.
I was like, that can't be, but it was.
It's delicious.
viva frei
Yeah.
How old are you, Tom?
thomas renz
I just turned 49 this weekend.
libby emmons
You know what that reminds me of?
viva frei
I was going to say, like, the only thing I associate pistachio ice cream with is my father.
libby emmons
Potato ripple.
tim pool
Have you had 100 cookie monsters?
Strawberry Bliss 00:03:22
unidentified
Well, good.
viva frei
I'm just saying.
libby emmons
I haven't had that, but last summer I made some.
I got like this ice cream maker.
Anyway, I made a peach ice cream.
Oh, that was spectacular.
tim pool
Cookie Monster has Oreos and cookie dough.
viva frei
Yeah, that's good.
That's fantastic.
libby emmons
I can see that.
thomas renz
That's got to be good.
unidentified
Oh, that's amazing.
tim pool
I've never heard of it.
That's fine.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And I can just like, every time I order it, RFK looks out of the shadows.
He's like, let me tell you about blue dye.
And I'm like, I know.
viva frei
Have you seen what it does to bellow movements?
thomas renz
Yeah.
viva frei
Turns him green.
Like straight up green for the longest time afterwards.
phil labonte
Viva.
thomas renz
What does?
tim pool
Viva.
unidentified
This about.
This about.
viva frei
If you grow up the son of a hypochondriac, there's a lot of things you learn and you don't forget to traumatize you for a long time.
phil labonte
Yeah, but you don't need to talk about them on a podcast.
viva frei
I probably should not have talked about the blue poo that comes from eating blue dye.
Now you know, children, don't eat that green dye stuff for blue dye.
tim pool
All right, let's see what we got going on here in these chats.
Wolf says if Trump doesn't crack down the Minnesota, he's going to be Buchanan 2.0.
That's what I'm saying.
Andre says, Canada is so done under Comrade Carney.
What are you guys waiting for?
Hi, Viva.
See you soon in Florida.
viva frei
Who said that one?
tim pool
Andre T23.
viva frei
Okay, got to make sure that that's not a threat.
See you in Florida, bitch.
I think I know who that is.
tim pool
Yeah, well, you're a refugee.
I mean, you fled.
viva frei
Oh, yeah.
Well, I ran for the country before I ran from the country.
And like you say, Viva, you're a coward.
Stay there.
I'm going to stay and finance my own oppression to the tune of 50 plus percent of my income.
Hell no.
I will tactically not even retreat, re-strategize to the free state of Florida where I can fight harder for Canada than some Canadians can under the censorship laws that they got in that country.
tim pool
Have you renounced your citizenship?
viva frei
Not yet, but not yet.
Oh, no, no, I'm where I'm in.
I'm in the process of things with America.
libby emmons
Switching over.
viva frei
Becoming American.
People say, I realized this the other day where people say, are you proud to be Canadian?
I'm like, well, I was born Canadian.
You can't be proud to have been born into circumstances.
But if I make the active decision to become American, then you would say, yes, I'm proud to be an American because as an adult, I made a decision to upend our entire life, move my family, and adopt a spirit that is far different than what I have grown to know as a Canadian.
libby emmons
Is your family like it?
Is your family happy?
viva frei
My family that came with me, yes.
I've got some family up in Canada who.
Yeah, but no, my family loves it though.
It took some time.
The first year, we went with three kids who were young.
It took some getting used to and making new friends, and they love it.
libby emmons
I moved my son from New York to West Virginia, and that's also a transition.
Slightly different kind of transition.
thomas renz
That's a big transition.
libby emmons
That's a big transition.
Now he's a Brooklyn kid in the Appalachians, you know?
thomas renz
That's a huge transition.
viva frei
It isn't like I've obviously never done it before, but like up against selling everything and leaving the only country you've ever known and then coming where you don't know anything.
You don't know what you need to get into school.
You don't know where the grocery stores are.
libby emmons
I find it crazy.
Like, I can't imagine leaving America.
You know, I can't imagine it.
viva frei
It was weird.
Never in a million years did I ever.
I mean, I studied law in French in Quebec City because my aspirations were to stay in Quebec, the province, practice in French.
libby emmons
It's gorgeous.
viva frei
It's beautiful.
The country is beautiful.
The people are, by and large, beautiful.
It's the government that ruins everything.
And the government ruins much of the people as well.
Leaving America's Beacon 00:08:15
viva frei
Brainwashes them into calling the cops because you're not social distancing at a park and you're playing on the swings that have been.
libby emmons
Or because there's five people in your house and you're not allowed to have five people with you.
viva frei
We literally had to sneak out of our, we were breaking the COVID curfew rules.
The kids were like, looking for cops as we left our neighbor's house and came back to ours.
You realize also a home, the difference between a home and a prison is really just a question of perspective and the limitations that are placed on you.
The government turned our homes into a prison.
And I look at it whenever I drive by when I go back and I have a deep resentment for what the government actually did to our lives in Canada.
unidentified
I did a lot of people.
libby emmons
And in Brooklyn, they said that I couldn't take my son to any restaurants unless I got him this weird experimental vaccine.
And so I was like, oh, I guess now we're just, and so we just kept driving a jersey.
And we were like going to Dave and Buster's.
And I was like, ah, I always loved Jersey.
Now I love Jersey even more.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Amazon says, last Monday was the 20th anniversary of Tim Poole Day at Chicago Warehouse.
That is a video of me skateboarding at 19 years old in Chicago.
And it's funny because it's got half a million views.
But when it was first put up by my buddy Brett, it had just like, I don't know, a thousand or two thousand or something.
And then people decided 18 years later, YouTube started recommending it to people.
And then people were like, what's this?
And then they'd watch it.
And it's me, I'm 19 and I'm skating in a warehouse.
And I'm doing some front side slides and backside tail slides and all of that stuff.
All right.
Andre says, I've already got my American flag.
unidentified
Good stuff.
tim pool
All right.
All right.
Andrew Starr says, Tim, you people cause this because you throw conservatives under the bus every time they do something that isn't perfectly ideal.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Nope.
Nope.
I think that there is appropriate strategy and things to do, but we win elections and then the leaders do nothing.
thomas renz
So, you know.
viva frei
Is the idea that you can't criticize because you might lose elections after having been elected on certain promises that you failed to deliver on?
People don't understand that there is such a thing as constructive criticism in comparison to destructive criticism.
And when you criticize Biden, it sure as hell is not to make him, you know, change tactics to become a better candidate.
It's to destroy him politically.
When you criticize Trump, especially if you went out and stumped for him, it's not to destroy him.
It's to put it right back on track to deliver on what he promised so that they don't lose the midterms.
And it's up to them to either absorb that constructive criticism or stubbornly say, we're doing everything right and you're the idiot for complaints.
thomas renz
So what do you do, right?
So you're asked to investigate things.
You look into things, you find things, and you find out that there's bad things around it.
Should I shut up?
I mean, who's the better friend to Trump?
The guy that's not willing to talk about someone being crooked around him?
Or the guy that says, hey, you got some snakes in the grass.
You got to watch out for yourself.
Hey, watch your back.
Look, you can see from a mile away where these midterms are going.
And it ain't good.
So you tell me who's got Trump's back better?
The guy who's saying, hey, let's change direction?
Or the guy who's kissing his rear and doesn't have the balls to speak out?
tim pool
Which country are you looking at for after Democrats win the midterms?
thomas renz
Listen, I'm dying on this one.
I'll die on this hill, brother.
I ain't going anywhere.
I'm just going to, I figure I'll be the first guy in FEMA camp and I'll keep a bed warm for you.
viva frei
The serious answer to that is there's nowhere else to go after this.
thomas renz
It's just going down.
tim pool
What do you mean?
viva frei
When I was doing the Ottawa Trucker, El Salvador.
You know, the thing is, I mean, that's just like old people going to Florida to run off the clock.
I mean, that's the reality is when I was interviewing a lot of people, they came to Canada and they're protesting the tyranny there.
And I was like, so, you know, what happens?
Are you going to go back home?
He's like, I have no home to go back to.
If Canada goes the way the country that I fled from, I've got nowhere to go.
America is going to be shiny, give me death.
But no, so the other thing, there's nowhere else to go.
If America falls, then it's global tyranny.
So good luck.
thomas renz
We talked about it during COVID.
libby emmons
I feel that way too.
I mean, that's what Howard.
I can't recommend Harry.
tim pool
What about Singapore?
libby emmons
I've got a talk at the World Economic Forum.
He was like, you know, imagine a world without America.
It gets pretty dark pretty quickly.
viva frei
No, it's a problem where they flog you on your feet.
I mean, I appreciate it.
There's very little crime.
libby emmons
You're not allowed to chew gum.
viva frei
Yeah, you can't.
Well, you can chew it.
You can't spit it on the bottom.
thomas renz
But the thing about it is, right?
So during COVID, a lot of us lawyers from around the world work together, right?
So I was working with lawyers from Australia, South Africa, Europe.
I mean, you name it, all over.
We were all talking to each other because when it first happened, all around the world, it was the same thing, right?
So everywhere around the world, think about this.
Think about just the enormity of coordinating a global lockdown the way that it was.
And it was the same in every country, right?
So tell me it wasn't a conspiracy.
So this has happened, but we talked.
The lawyers talked, right?
And we talked about this.
And at the end of the day, you know, we would talk about it.
Well, hey, you know, should we really work real hard on Italy or should we work really hard on this or hard on that?
And I had a number of people tell me.
You know, listen, if America falls, we're screwed.
At the end of the day, America's been the beacon of freedom for a reason.
I mean, we are the beacon of freedom.
If we go downhill, you know, freedom's going to go south everywhere.
I don't think there is an option.
We just, and that's why, you know, like I said, I don't care who likes me, who doesn't like me.
I'm going to keep talking the truth.
And when I find someone that's an enemy of freedom, we're going to keep talking about it.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Andre says, when you guys finally decide to liberate Canada, please have the Yankee doodle playing on all speakers.
Play it now, please.
We almost did.
We almost did.
unidentified
What was it?
tim pool
War of 1812?
Yeah.
We tried to free you.
thomas renz
Sorry.
viva frei
You cannot free the prisoner who doesn't appreciate the Arid Shackles.
phil labonte
This is true.
tim pool
Let's see.
Kwan Kwanks, Quanchin.
Viva, has Barnes changed his mind since Sunday?
If not, can you explain it to Tim and see what his opinion is about it?
viva frei
It's changed his mind on the shooting.
I presume it's about the shooting.
Barnes thinks it's an unjustified shooting.
I think it's more facts.
tim pool
He's wrong.
viva frei
I appreciate his position, and he doesn't compromise what his views of the Constitution are depending on the parties.
And, you know, and his position.
He fleshed it out.
I happen to disagree with him.
I don't always agree with him.
I don't agree that the charges against Don Stinky Fingers Le Man ought to have been not brought, but he did make a good point that Stinky Fingers.
People could Google it.
But, you know, he's right a lot.
And so even if you disagree with him on this, his interpretation of the Constitution is worth listening to.
phil labonte
Sure.
tim pool
I think the circumstance is a guy was resisting arrest while armed.
One agent saw a gun and grabbed it and screamed, gun, gun.
The gun accidentally discharged.
Then the other guys see him spin around and he's got a black thing in his hand and he panics and he shoots.
In a circumstance like that where a gunshot rings out and you hear gun, gun, and the guy who's resisting arrest is turning around while holding a black object, I don't see how that's not a like, not clean.
viva frei
Well, anybody who wants to hear his interpretation, you can check out last night's episode on across all platforms, but on Rumble.
No, but Barnes, He's a smart man, so you can't just disregard it reflexively because you don't like it.
But my conclusion is different on this one.
tim pool
All right.
Mega Bobson says, Week AF, WTF Trump, you're making us all look like clowns for voting for you.
We wanted mass deportations.
Now you're running away because leftists are crying.
WTF, embarrassing, bro.
viva frei
I had to look it up before because Phil told me that between voluntary and involuntary deportations, they're at allegedly close to 2 million.
And so it's not a question of overreacting because of what you disagree with as a spontaneous reaction, but he's been good.
And this might be longer-term better.
If he shows that he can actually work with Democrats, and then maybe they deserve to be arrested.
But this is not the sentiment of the majority of people who look at what's going on and are getting pushed away from the deportation.
Ariana Garand's Wool Cap Story 00:07:15
tim pool
I have to address this comment where, what is it name?
Selena?
I don't know.
Tim can't justify a wool cap in Florida.
Correct.
I'm not wearing a wool cap.
It's polyester.
More importantly, it's 50 degrees out right now.
People, are you not from Florida?
I guess people not from Florida.
They don't understand.
Florida does get cold sometimes.
It's supposed to be like 20-something degrees.
phil labonte
It might snow this weekend here.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
I mean, well, the Arctic Blast thing.
But even in the past couple of weeks, it dropped down to like 32 or 33 or something.
It was cold.
viva frei
You can always justify because it either keeps you warm or it protects you from sunburn.
And if you don't have hair on the top of your head, you can get a bad sunburn.
tim pool
That's right.
And Phil did.
phil labonte
I did.
tim pool
He did.
phil labonte
My head was itchy for a couple days.
Yeah.
libby emmons
Ouchie.
phil labonte
Yeah.
thomas renz
I used to have my head shaved.
Years I had my head shaved when I was a kid because I was into sports.
And every summer I get a headburn.
It's brutal.
Brutal.
tim pool
All right, my friends, we're going to go to that uncensored portion of the show.
So smash the like button.
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We'll be over at rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL in a little bit.
But before we go, Tom, do you want to shout anything out?
thomas renz
Hey, just listen, keep supporting our work, Timerence.com and TimeRunst.subsec.com.
We need your help.
I mean, listen, obviously, I'm not getting paid by the Democrats or the Republicans.
Nobody likes me.
So if you like truth, keep supporting us.
viva frei
And that is T-O-M-R-E-N-Z.
Tom Renz.
There you go.
You know, Viva Fry, I got the daily show at 3 o'clock on Rumble.
Sunday night show, Viva and Barnes, Law for the People.
And we've got the best locals community out there, Viva and Barnes.
Holy crap.
VivaBarnesLaw.locals.com.
So that's where you know to find me.
And if you Google my name, Drone Bass Fishing, it was a video where I caught a smallmouth bass.
I posted it to YouTube back in the day.
It should have been 10 million views.
It hasn't even gotten to a million yet.
ariana grande
Oh, okay.
viva frei
It's very upsetting.
libby emmons
I'm Libby Emmons, and you can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons.
And I'm really grateful to Tim for letting me announce my podcast on the show, which is really fun.
It's the Pod Millennial, and you can find it at the Pod Millennial.
We are going to be, this is a soft launch tonight.
It officially launches tomorrow, so it's sort of a sneak peek, and then it will be every Tuesday.
And Tim, I hope that you will come be a guest on my show.
ariana grande
Absolutely.
libby emmons
That is awesome.
I'm so excited.
I'm going to hold you to that.
phil labonte
I am Phil That Remains on Twix.
The band is all that remains.
We're going on tour this spring with Born of Osiris and Dead Eyes.
Start off in Albany on April 29th.
We'll be out for about three weeks or so.
You can check out all that remains at allthatremainsonline.com or Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool
You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
We'll see you all at Rumble.com slash TimCastIRL in about 30 seconds.
Thanks for hanging out.
Ariana And Cynthia Creep Out Awards Critics 00:05:02
phil labonte
Ariana Garand and Cynthia Erivo are very creepy.
Grande?
No, it's Garande.
libby emmons
No, it's Grande.
phil labonte
Is it Grande?
tim pool
It's definitely Grande.
viva frei
I've never even heard anyone mispronounce it.
phil labonte
I thought it was Ariana Garand.
viva frei
Oh, no, that's Grande.
libby emmons
No, it's Grande.
This is why you're a heavy metal singer, Phil, and not a pop star.
phil labonte
So look, they're creepy, and we have evidence right here.
libby emmons
But no, wait, you have to start with the other people.
phil labonte
Okay, actually, you know what?
I'm going to throw this to Libby because she is extremely excited about this topic.
She was putting this stuff in the Slack this morning, and I was like, are you really going to talk about this?
And she's like, I want to.
libby emmons
Listen, I have been trying to talk about this for days, but other stuff keeps being more important.
You know, people are getting shot in Minnesota.
And it's like, come on.
Don't you guys want to talk about the Oscars?
And I appreciate your indulgence for just a few moments here, gentlemen.
So what happened is Wicked for Good, which was the sequel to Wicked, which was Cynthia Arrivo as Galinda and no, Cynthia Arrivio as Alphaba and Ariana Grande as Galinda, a remake of the musical.
It was this whole two-part thing.
It was this big, massive undertaking, huge enterprise.
And so the first wicked, they got nominations for things and awards.
And this time, they were totally snubbed at the Oscars.
And everyone was surprised.
You know, it went to like the nominations went to one battle after another, which is this anti-fa propagandist film, essentially.
And it's terrible.
I watched it.
And I watched it because I thought I would hate it and I wanted to say mean things about it.
And it sucked.
You know, it did suck in terms of its messaging, but it was well made.
So it was like annoying, you know?
phil labonte
I wanted to hate it so much more, but I couldn't.
I totally hated it.
libby emmons
Actually, I talked to Michael Knowles about it on my new podcast.
He had a very interesting take, even though he hadn't seen it, which I didn't think really mattered because, like Slavoj Zizek says, you can write an entire essay on a film that you've never seen.
It doesn't even matter.
So anyways, they were totally snubbed at the Oscars.
And anonymous Academy voters, because anyone who's in SAG, I think, can vote for the Oscars, said that, let's see, what did they say?
They said the movie wasn't that great, one voter said.
The two have amazing on-screen chemistry, but spent most of the movie apart.
And then someone else said, I was also just completely turned off by their promotional performances.
They creeped a lot of people out and in their rush to feel authentic came off as coast playing.
So I don't know if you guys remember in the fall and also for the whole time.
phil labonte
CCC covered it.
libby emmons
Right, because they did an awesome job.
I loved that.
Yes.
So they did these promo tours.
They were like stopping and doing interviews and they were just so weird and creepy and gross.
And they have like these long fingernails and they're always kind of touching each other.
phil labonte
We got some video we're going to show of one of the creepy.
ariana grande
Oh my God.
libby emmons
Very emotional.
ariana grande
Yeah, incredibly emotional.
unidentified
Shooting, it was a doozy.
ariana grande
Absolutely.
Yeah, it was an outer body.
I remember like halfway through the first day, I left my body because I was so emotionally kind of staggered in the music.
libby emmons
It was the first day.
ariana grande
It feels so incredibly real.
And, you know, we play these women that we love, and these women love each other.
And yeah, it was a fantasy story.
unidentified
Right?
I do remember that one day.
libby emmons
But listen.
I don't even remember doing it, but I must have moved over to a window and I was just sat there facing the window.
ariana grande
I know exactly what that's going to be.
And I don't remember doing it.
I was hugging Arthur, who was holding the boom.
He's our sound.
She's hugging us.
unidentified
He was crying.
ariana grande
He's holding the boom.
And I literally was just latched onto him sobbing while you were by the window and we were waiting to roll.
unidentified
Yeah.
ariana grande
So dramatic.
Sorry, guys.
viva frei
It's not dramatic.
unidentified
It's very emotional.
viva frei
It's fucking insane.
unidentified
Insane.
phil labonte
But listen.
viva frei
Wasn't there in Stepbrothers when the brother sang and they're like, your voice was like 50.
Didn't they literally say something exactly like that?
unidentified
But the funny thing was that.
thomas renz
But it was funny when they did it.
libby emmons
The funny part about this is not them or that they got snubbed, but what people are saying about this article about why they got snubbed.
So apparently they got snubbed because they were super creepy and gross and weird on their promo tour.
And so people are saying, so incredibly tired of people calling them creepy for having an honest and truthful friendship.
We are literally devolving because thinking it's weird that two kind and unproblematic people are very close with one another, which is nobody's business anyways, is just insane.
Somebody else said, The Academy, take action.
This should not be normalized.
And someone else said, y'all are so hateful, you forgot what genuine closeness and affection looks like.
viva frei
There's nothing genuine about any of that.
thomas renz
I got to be honest with you.
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