Nov. 19, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| In the weirdest of timelines, the House and the Senate have nearly unanimously voted to pass the Epstein Transparency Bill. | ||
| So they will be releasing all of these Epstein files, whatever they may be. | ||
| I say near unanimous because one member of the House was like, nah, we ain't doing this, which is weird, I guess. | ||
| I mean, everybody's doing it. | ||
| Why don't you do it too, sir? | ||
| But he said, that's not how we get things done. | ||
| And fortunately for him, that is exactly how things got done. | ||
| Now, we don't know what's exactly in these files or why Trump all of a sudden turned around and said, you know what, let's release them. | ||
| But I think it's fair to say, whether you're on the left or the right, everybody agrees they've been scrubbed a long time ago. | ||
| So what is the point of all this? | ||
| It doesn't speak to the midterms or policy or anything really, but it's the big story today because I guess everyone's exhausted, fatigued, and that's all the Democrats and Republicans are going to give us. | ||
| So there is some other interesting news, of course. | ||
| Donald Trump called a reporter Piggy. | ||
| And conservatives saying, no, no, no, no, her name is Peggy. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| I like that Trump called a reporter Piggy. | ||
| I don't know why he would, but sometimes they deserve it. | ||
| And then in other news, there's Christians protesting Muslims in Dearborn, Michigan, which is also just, it's a crazy news day. | ||
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| And okay, I guess, you know, if this is the direction the country is going, we'll bring you the news. | ||
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| Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we have Ryan Newhouse. | ||
| Hey guys, Ryan Newhouse. | ||
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| What do you do? | ||
| Former chief of staff for the Harris Foundation right now. | ||
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| Got four kids of my own. | ||
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| I'm the White House correspondent here at Timcast. | ||
| Phil. | ||
| Hello, everybody. | ||
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| Let's get into it. | ||
| Here's the news from CNN.com. | ||
| Senate unanimously agrees to send Epstein bill to Trump's desk once it's received from the House. | ||
| Oh boy, the Epstein files, the House passed it almost unanimously, only one person defective. | ||
| The Senate unanimously passed it. | ||
| And they're saying, Donald Trump signed this bill. | ||
| According to courthouse news service, Congress on Tuesday nearly unanimously passed legislation aimed at shining a spotlight on the federal government's investigation into Epstein. | ||
| But the push to publish the so-called Epstein files is headed to President Donald Trump's desk without changes demanded by skeptical House Republican leadership. | ||
| Both Democrats and Republicans have long urged Congress to pass legislation directing the Trump administration to publish a trove of documents on Epstein. | ||
| Let me just put it this way. | ||
| They've got a veto-proof majority. | ||
| Trump's going to sign this. | ||
| I don't know what the point of this is. | ||
| Anybody who's been following this for a long time, a great example being Mike Cernovich, whose work actually got the Epstein files released, or I'm sorry, I should say got the Epstein story to this point where they would release the Epstein files, has said they've long destroyed any of the more important or pressing documents. | ||
| So this seems like it's performative, largely a waste of time. | ||
| And wait, there's more. | ||
| Because while Donald Trump has come around and been like, okay, fine, release the files, which I think we're going to get nothing, we now can trust that our liberal friends are going to claim it's the bad move. | ||
| So here's Brian Krasenstein on queue to say, my question about the release of the Epstein files, what stops Trump from classifying any material he doesn't want released and then Pam Bonnie not releasing it? | ||
| What stops Pam Bonnie from claiming anything with Trump's name on it would be national security risk? | ||
| Will other member of Congress, other members of Congress or both from both parties get to see unredacted versions of whatever she redacts or classifies? | ||
| You see, the funny thing is this guy has been screaming about Trump releasing the files. | ||
| As soon as they say, okay, fine, we'll release the files. | ||
| It's just not good enough. | ||
| It's a fake story. | ||
| The Epstein case is obviously real. | ||
| I want the evidence. | ||
| Everybody should, but I believe it was probably destroyed. | ||
| And I think this is principally a distraction. | ||
| And the reason Trump probably came around and said, okay, fine, release it is because it's going to be a bunch of nothing, big nothing burgers. | ||
| I mean, I agree. | ||
| I think there's probably nothing in it, but I think it's good because at least the American people get to see whatever they release, right? | ||
| And then I think the question after this is accountability, right? | ||
| Is there anything that's actually going to be forced from an accountability mechanism? | ||
| And I think you saw the beginnings of that today with, you know, I think it was Representative Green in the House who issued the censor resolution. | ||
| And I think, you know, if members of Congress are communicating with Jeffrey Epstein, there should be accountability for that. | ||
| And I think the American people would want to see that. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| I suspect that those who are crazed over the Jeffrey Epstein scandals will not be satisfied by anything that is found in these released files. | ||
| I suspect Candace Owens still won't be satisfied with this unless people get the maximalist conspiracy theory around Jeffrey Epstein. | ||
| If Israel, Massad, and the CIA are not involved in a honeypot of 50 senators and 100 congressmen, then people will not be satisfied here. | ||
| So I suspect that will continue to be the case here. | ||
| Let me try my conspiracy for a minute, if you just entertain this. | ||
| Why are they releasing the files now like this? | ||
| Don't you guys think it's weird that every Republican and Democrat, except for one, but almost all of them agreed to release this? | ||
| That seems strange. | ||
| I don't buy it. | ||
| They'd only release a rigged one where all of the House, everybody in Congress supported it. | ||
| This would have to be the scrubbed down version. | ||
| We have to go with the no matter what they do, it's always the wrong thing angle of the conspiracy. | ||
| Everything they do is evidence of the conspiracy. | ||
| So in this regard, the conspiracy theory is, or the evidence is, all of them agreeing to release it is too perfect. | ||
| And if it's too good to be true, it usually is. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| That says to me, they're all in on it and they're planning on releasing fake files. | ||
| This proves it. | ||
| Actually, I'll be completely real because it is a little conspiratorial. | ||
| I actually don't completely disagree with that. | ||
| The fact that Democrats and Republicans are all like, yeah, we're all on board with this, says politicking nonsense. | ||
| They're not going to give us real information. | ||
| The government is not going to release proof or details. | ||
| It seems like if I had to make a bet, the DOJ, Democrats, Republicans, or otherwise, have, going back years, long destroyed any of the more significant documents. | ||
| And now they're going to release stuff that makes Epstein look bad, but won't give you the names of any of his accomplices or associates or other Intel assets. | ||
| I think the emails are like one of the most bizarre parts because it's like, first of all, you have congressmen just emailing him about recipes and stuff. | ||
| It's the most bizarre stuff. | ||
| And then also, people will install three VPNs and have 20 different passwords to use a burner Twitter. | ||
| Meanwhile, Epstein is just emailing, hey, you want to go hang out with some kids later? | ||
| Best, Jeff. | ||
| And it's like out in the open. | ||
| I'm like, this guy was so shameless with everything. | ||
| That's what I was reading through the emails. | ||
| That's what was the most shocking thing to me. | ||
| The interesting thing I find is not the actual release of the files. | ||
| Because I do think I agree with you a lot that the people that believe that nefarious things are going on about the release are going to believe that this is not a complete list. | ||
| They're going to say, well, there's only some parts that have been released. | ||
| It's not the full list. | ||
| And people are going to take it as confirmation bias the same way they did with the release of the JFK files. | ||
| People that are like, oh, people found in the JFK files what they were looking for, regardless of whether it was there or not. | ||
| And I think this is going to be another situation like that. | ||
| But Shane was talking last night about Epstein's contacts with other foreign entities and people that he's been involved with. | ||
| I think that that's the more interesting part of it because that kind of stuff speaks to the corruption that was involved as opposed to what is largely known, the stuff that he was in jail for trafficking already. | ||
| That was my point. | ||
| The emails too is like that just alludes to the level of sloppiness that could explain why some of the timeline here is just like weird. | ||
| It's like, yeah, you can attribute a lot of this to just carelessness, sloppiness, cockiness, a lot of these different things. | ||
| So, I mean, I think since there's consensus here that this is widely regarded as an attempt by Democrats and others to derail the Trump agenda, it really begs the question why Rhino Congressman Thomas Massey introduced this bill to the Congress in the first place for any other reason but to try to derail the Trump agenda. | ||
| And I mean, Tim, that's your favorite congressman who introduced this bill. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's Massey. | ||
| He's a good congressman. | ||
| He's great. | ||
| And Rokana. | ||
| But this bill is a distraction from the Trump agenda. | ||
| This bill, I give you a little bit for sure. | ||
| I think the issue is that Democrats were the ones who initiated this. | ||
| And Massey's like, okay, release them. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He introduced it. | ||
| He co-sponsored the introduction with Rokano. | ||
| Democrats decided that Donald Trump was implicated in Epstein and started putting up billboards of Trump and Epstein as friends. | ||
| And this ignited the Trump-Epstein saga, even though this was happening under the Biden administration and the first Trump administration. | ||
| It seemed largely that Democrats didn't have a play politically. | ||
| I can't tell you what they're campaigning on as a party. | ||
| And so then, of course, Massey's like, I'm going to introduce this bill. | ||
| RoConna said, I'm going to introduce a bill. | ||
| And then we got to this point where it's like, I don't know if there's, I would say half, half a distraction because I don't know what's going on anyway, to be completely honest. | ||
| I don't know what Trump is currently working on, right? | ||
| Giving H-1Bs and Chinese visas without explaining what he's doing for the American people. | ||
| I respect the tariff fight. | ||
| He might lose this one in Supreme Court. | ||
| The dividends, these are good. | ||
| It's a good play. | ||
| I'm a fan of this. | ||
| This is Congress's board. | ||
| Republicans clearly are like, yeah, Trump's not threatened by this, and we're over the story. | ||
| Sure, it was. | ||
| So, first, it was the, like, there's roughly a handful of Republicans who were pushing, um, who were allying with the Democrats to allow this to advance. | ||
| It was Marjorie Taylor Greene, Thomas Massey, and they're in their. | ||
| The Republicans didn't want it, and they were like, you know, even Speaker Johnson. | ||
| And then when it became inevitable because of Thomas Massey and Marjorie Taylor Green and a couple of other Republicans, is why Trump had to tell all these other Republicans to flip. | ||
| So what do you think about those handful of Republicans? | ||
| I would push back on the idea that it's inevitable when there's only a handful of Republicans when they're dealing with a body that's 435 members. | ||
| If it was something that was inevitable, it would have had popular support in the beginning. | ||
| It was inevitable because they just had a special election in Arizona, which gave them 218 votes, including Marjorie Taylor Greene and Thomas Massey. | ||
| I don't know if it's also had Anna Paulina Luna, but it required those Republicans or they weren't going to be able to advance this. | ||
| Do you have any? | ||
| I know you used to work on the Hill a bit. | ||
| What do you think about this inside politics? | ||
| Am I crazy here about how Massey introduced this? | ||
| And, you know, there was a handful of Republicans necessary to advance this legislation, essentially derailing in attempts to derail the Trump agenda, in my estimation. | ||
| And I mean, that's why the president also has unendorsed Marjorie Trader Green, who he's calling her now, and an opponent to Thomas Massey. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, from like, if you want to talk procedure and stuff, which is totally boring, I mean, it was inevitable through the sense that once they had a discharge position, it was petitioned and the numbers that they needed to get that out the door in the House, like it was going to come to the floor and be debated, right? | ||
| And it was going to have to be voted on. | ||
| And if you're a Republican or a Democrat, and, you know, when Jeffrey Epstein died, that was a national news story. | ||
| Like, every American was like, who is this guy? | ||
| Who is he connected to? | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| He was trafficking young girls, and all of these wealthy billionaires and businessmen were going to his island. | ||
| Like, who is this sicko dude? | ||
| And why is he connected to like all of these important people around the world? | ||
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| So, like, from a trickle-down effect, I agree with Tim that, like, yeah, the Biden administration had these files for the last four years. | ||
| If Trump was like complicit in any of this stuff in a really damning way, then, you know, they probably would have released this stuff on their own, right? | ||
| To really damage him and our coalition. | ||
| So I think, you know, it's probably been scrubbed of meaningful things. | ||
| But I think there was a period of time in which the American people were like very fired up about this issue. | ||
| So from like a political standpoint, like House, Senate politics, like, yeah, once the discharge petition numbers were there, like it was going to come up. | ||
| And I didn't. | ||
| How should we feel about those Republicans who are willing to ally with Democrats to advance this legislation that I think is trying to derail the point about it being derailing? | ||
| If this actually does pass and it comes out and it puts it to bed, doesn't it actually allow the MAGA agenda to move forward? | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| I don't think it'll put it to bed. | ||
| Again, because of the things that we said. | ||
| No, people will not be satisfied with what is in here. | ||
| Well, also, yeah, like part of the legislation is Bondi Camerdak things if it's threatening a current investigation, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| So she's going to have to do that. | ||
| There's going to be something in there. | ||
| Obviously, that's going to be. | ||
| It specifies for national security. | ||
| Precisely. | ||
| And that's going to just add fuel to the fire. | ||
| It's going to give more oxygen to this. | ||
| I mean, even it's very valid, but in a lot of ways, people are using it. | ||
| They're weaponizing it. | ||
| So it's going to become a sideshow. | ||
| But the people that are going to say that this is, you know, like we said, the people that are going to say that this is not complete or any redactions mean, et cetera, they're going to say that anyways. | ||
| Like, that's like being worried about the Democrats are going to call you names or say that you're a racist because you talk about immigration. | ||
| That's going to happen. | ||
| There's no way that there's no world where they don't use this as a political tool. | ||
| So the best option, as far as I can see, is to put as much information out as possible and say, look, we've put it all out. | ||
| And so now we need to move on. | ||
| If they're not going to move on, they're not going to move on whether or not this information goes. | ||
| Yeah, it's going to be a sideshow regarding it. | ||
| I think nobody cares, to be honest. | ||
| I think obviously the people watching this care because they're concerned about the goings-on. | ||
| But I'd be willing to bet that if we decided to change the thumbnail of the show and the title to actually, let me do a quick search real quick. | ||
| Today's title will be Cloudflare. | ||
| If we, to be fair, I mean, that was a big story and we will talk about it. | ||
| But I think this is actually much more interesting to people. | ||
| To be completely honest, if we did USA versus Uruguay, that's how you pronounce Yorugwe, by the way. | ||
| Everyone says Yorugwe Uruai. | ||
| Then I think we'd get, or how about Warriors versus Magic? | ||
| All of these have substantially more search volume. | ||
| The reality is we are politicals. | ||
| We care about politics. | ||
| We care about these issues. | ||
| But I think the average person is tuning out because the political space has largely become, you know what it is? | ||
| It's fatigue. | ||
| And the fatigue is not that people don't care about the goings-on of the world so much, but that many people are basically saying, I've heard this 800 times already. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Give me something new. | ||
| And they're going to release nothing because nothing ever happens. | ||
| We get it. | ||
| And we're going to be bored by it. | ||
| So welcome to current politics right now in November. | ||
| It's really devolving into drama and BS. | ||
| And Ryan, you'd know nothing about that, right? | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
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| What are you talking about? | ||
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| No, I know all about that. | ||
| But to Tim's point, I think the other thing that really causes fatigue is these things come out and then nothing happens. | ||
| Like there's no accountability. | ||
| You have Benghazi, you have burisma, you have COVID, right? | ||
| Like there's all of these events that we've demanded oversight for and nothing occurs. | ||
| I mean, you've got the Biden Auto Pen scandal going on right now. | ||
| And who's going to be held accountable for that? | ||
| Is anyone? | ||
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Right. | |
| And what does that even look like? | ||
| So I think that's- Oh, it looks like it looks like actually, I'm sorry, Cloudflare's trending traffic has declined considering we're back on the internet. | ||
| But Google anti-gravity is on the rise as a trend. | ||
| And more people care about whatever that is. | ||
| And I would say that I'm actually really curious. | ||
| And if you've never heard of the NBA, Warriors versus Magic sounds really whimsical and exciting. | ||
| Warriors, man. | ||
| Versus Magic. | ||
| Sounds like Dungeons and Dragons. | ||
| Yeah, that's sick. | ||
| Oh, what's basketball? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| Like, what is this? | ||
| To your point, Ryan, though, like if that's the case, right? | ||
| People don't actually, like, the large portion of the American population doesn't really care. | ||
| I think that the administration should start focusing on doing whatever it can do to benefit the lives of the everyday American who is having problems, paying their bills, who is having problems, making ends meet, because that's what's going to matter in a year when people are going to the midterms. | ||
| I just wanted to get this in really quick for the record for the Republican congresspeople who forced the vote on these Epstein files before the president asked all Republicans to vote for it. | ||
| It was spearheaded by Thomas Massey, and then we have Nancy Mace, Lauren Bobert, Marjorie Taylor, and Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| So, well, these are people also that they're much more aware. | ||
| They're much more accountable to like online coalition. | ||
| Like their coalition is built off a lot of online things. | ||
| That's where a lot of their oxygen comes from. | ||
| So they're going to be more reactive to things that people that are tuning into a lot of these types of shows are. | ||
| And that's just the reality. | ||
| I want to talk about what the people care about. | ||
| So we're jumping to the next story. | ||
| And that is from the Daily Beast. | ||
| White House tries to defend Trump's piggy insult. | ||
| Tries to defend? | ||
| I could defend that. | ||
| I just want to know who he called Piggy. | ||
| All right, you guys ready for this? | ||
| You ready for this? | ||
| Why is this news? | ||
| You know, I got to tell you, I wake up and I turn on, you know, I come in and I go on. | ||
| Everyone's like, the internet is down. | ||
| And Tate was basically, he was in the fetal position on the ground crying, being like, without Max, without X, I'm nothing. | ||
| And I said, you're right. | ||
| Anyway, when the internet finally comes back, this is the story. | ||
| Everyone's like, Trump called a reporter piggy. | ||
| I guess now they're saying he's calling her Peggy. | ||
| He said, quiet, Peggy. | ||
| He was saying Peggy, not Piggy, Peh. | ||
| I want to believe that he said Piggy because that's the Donald Trump that I love. | ||
| And it's also a weird thing to call some random journalist unless she's like a little fat woman. | ||
| Right. | ||
| A gordita. | ||
| She's a little on the porky side, yeah. | ||
| I think that means little fat woman, right? | ||
| In Spanish, little areas. | ||
| Yeah, I got it. | ||
| Gordita. | ||
| But I mean, like, that's the, that's the thing that people love about Donald Trump: the, the fact that he'll take it to the media, that he'll call him names, he'll, he'll do the Donald Trump thing and, you know, insult the media who constantly insults him. | ||
| And like, that to me is just red meat to the base. | ||
| The American people don't like political correctness. | ||
| No. | ||
| Here's the report. | ||
| They say this is Lucy was asking him if there's nothing incriminating in the file, sir, why not? | ||
| And he says, before it says, before she could finish, however, Trump pointed his finger at her and barked, quiet, quiet, piggy. | ||
| The remark was roundly blasted as disgusting. | ||
| Oh, shut up. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| You know what I think this is? | ||
| Liberalism is female-coded and conservatism is male-coded. | ||
| It's disgusting to call a journalist piggy, but it's perfectly acceptable to call the president of the United States a Nazi. | ||
| Yeah, come on. | ||
| BS. | ||
| I don't, I like, it is far more offensive to imply that Donald Trump is the reincarnation of Hitler than it is to call a journalist piggy. | ||
| The woman is actually fairly gaunt. | ||
| You know, I'm more disappointed that Trump called a thin woman a piggy. | ||
| Maybe she was like, I want to believe it was like this fat woman sitting there being like, Mr. President. | ||
| He's like, you're fat. | ||
| And I'm just sitting there laughing, but instead, he just called some thin blonde woman piggy. | ||
| Did she? | ||
| It's funny either way. | ||
| I think it's potentially like pickup tactic. | ||
| No, no, piggy. | ||
| It's called a neggy. | ||
| Yeah, negging. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And then you deploy that, you combo at the Bill Ackman, like, may I meet you? | ||
| And just laugh. | ||
| Yeah, I meet you, piggy. | ||
| Iri is so sick. | ||
| It's like W Riz. | ||
| And then she leaves being like, I am a big fan of Donald Trump. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And that's how Trump does it. | ||
| It's the Riz. | ||
| Is that what you said, Trump? | ||
| It's W Riz. | ||
| Trump's Riz. | ||
| The women, the women just can't handle it. | ||
| The Huzz can't resist. | ||
| In this case, the Puzz, Piggy Huz. | ||
| Quiet Piggy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Scolds. | ||
| If you go to the top of the article, they say Trump 79, like he's like a random guy. | ||
| Like, what are we doing here? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's an old guy, and it's fine. | ||
| Also, look at the picture. | ||
| Keen's man calls woman piggy. | ||
| Look at the picture that they chose to use of Trump. | ||
| Dude, he's saluting a horse. | ||
| He's loyal to horses. | ||
| Pigs, disgusting. | ||
| Farm animals, horses, patriotic, aristocratic. | ||
| I'm sure he's saluting the people who are on the horse, but that is what they're trying to make it look like. | ||
| The question I have is: why, guys, I don't need to ask the question. | ||
| The reason this is news is because everybody is bored and there's nothing to talk about. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I think that's right. | ||
| Let's make up some news. | ||
| Two countries. | ||
| Let's do this. | ||
| Trump did a backflip and landed in a superhero pose in the Rose Garden. | ||
| Pull up, Sora. | ||
| I mean, actually, is the Rose Garden still a Sora? | ||
| Sora. | ||
| Oh, actually, I'll do that. | ||
| Like two random countries. | ||
| Let's just like make up. | ||
| Dude, Naru declared war on Madagascar, dude. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| We can always talk about Venezuela. | ||
| On Wakanda, bro. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's what these like these bricks people do. | ||
| They're like, the Marshall Islands just signed a trade deal with Bangladesh. | ||
| It's so over for the West. | ||
| We could just start doing that kind of stuff. | ||
| That'd be fun. | ||
| You know what I like? | ||
| We can do the content where you basically just find something that you find a vagary and then just act like it's weird. | ||
| This is what I, you know, actually, there's a lot we can talk about in this regard because people are sending me all these videos about Turning Point USA related to finances and all the conspiracy theories, and I've largely not talked about a lot of them. | ||
| Not to get into specifics on that, but what I find with a lot of these conspiracy videos is it'll be like something like a Lod will show up to do the show. | ||
| Like, I'm just giving a hypothetical. | ||
| And then, like, in the middle of the show, he'll be like, hold on a second. | ||
| Sorry, guys, I'll bear it back. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| And it's like, maybe he's got the Hershey Squirts, who knows? | ||
| But then people, what you do is for the conspiracy show, be like, isn't it weird that a lot ran out from the show? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What's he doing? | ||
| Why won't he show us what this call was? | ||
| Show us the co-logs, E-Lad. | ||
| Who were you talking to? | ||
| It was Israel. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| In reality, it actually was Israel. | ||
| A lot is on the phone with him quite a bit. | ||
| So I'm just, you know, give me a hypothetical. | ||
| The whole country. | ||
| This is how you entertain. | ||
| You got to find something like, there's like a Coke can on the ground all mashed up, and you're like, isn't that strange? | ||
| Why is there a Coke can on that? | ||
| I'm not sure if I can do it. | ||
| I kill a lot. | ||
| That was sick on the show last night. | ||
| Dude, I think you won support back. | ||
| Like, great work. | ||
| We're going back into Gaza. | ||
| Thanks, dude. | ||
| Like, are you not entertained? | ||
| Dude, I wish I had that kind of power. | ||
| Like, I pull no strings here. | ||
| It's like, dude, a lot of zero poll. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at that poll. | ||
| Can I show you how funny this is? | ||
| If you search for the word piggy, Lord have mercy, the guardian. | ||
| Here's him pointing his finger in the face. | ||
| Trump faces criticism for referring to female Bloomberg reporter as piggy. | ||
| Trump, who just called a female reporter piggy, rages at ABC News journalist. | ||
| Trump told him in quiet piggy. | ||
| Was there a memo? | ||
| You know what's funny when they say they got the call? | ||
| The journalists got the call. | ||
| They did. | ||
| Oh, totally. | ||
| Like Soros called him up and said, I guess Trump called a piggy. | ||
| So everyone get mad and they're like, you got a bus. | ||
| And then they all go to their media. | ||
| I'm kidding about Soros calling them, but some of these journalists are going to write that anyway because they're nuts. | ||
| He sends emails. | ||
| He sends emails. | ||
| Is he still around? | ||
| His son's doing it. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Actually, he tells Alex to go ahead and. | ||
| Okay, wait, what is this? | ||
| They're also saying Trump, who just called a female reporter Piggy, rages at ABC News journalists for being too mean to him. | ||
| So true. | ||
| Don't be mean to him. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| After 10 years of them being mean. | ||
| I know, it's unacceptable. | ||
| It's not the question that I mind. | ||
| It's your attitude. | ||
| You're a terrible reporter. | ||
| It's the way you ask these questions. | ||
| You start off with a man who's highly respected, asking him a horrible, insubordinate and just a terrible question. | ||
| Insubordinate? | ||
| And you could even ask that same exact question nicely. | ||
| You're all psyched. | ||
| Somebody psyches you over at ABC. | ||
| They're going to psych. | ||
| You're a terrible person and a terrible reporter. | ||
| As far as the Epstein files. | ||
| He's so good at it. | ||
| I have nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein. | ||
| I threw him out of my club many years ago because I thought he was a sick pervert. | ||
| Strong. | ||
| And I guess I turned out to be right. | ||
| But you know who does have? | ||
| Bill Clinton, Larry Summers, who ran Harvard, was with him every single night, every single weekend. | ||
| They lived together. | ||
| They went to his island many times I never did. | ||
| Andrew Weissman, I hear. | ||
| All these guys were friends of his. | ||
| You don't even talk about those people. | ||
| You just keep going on the Epstein files. | ||
| And what the Epstein is, is a Democrat hoax to try and get me not to be able to talk about the $21 trillion that I talked about today. | ||
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Hey, here, here. | |
| It's a hoax. | ||
| Now, I just got a little report and I put it in my pocket. | ||
| Of all the money that he's given to Democrats, he gave me none. | ||
| Zero, no money to me. | ||
| But he gave money to Democrats. | ||
| And people are wise to your hoax. | ||
| And ABC is your company, your crappy company, is one of the perpetrators. | ||
| And I'll tell you something. | ||
| I'll tell you something. | ||
| I think the license should be taken away from ABC. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Because your news is so fake and it's so wrong. | ||
| And we have a great commissioner, the chairman, who should look at that. | ||
| Because I think when you come in and when you're 97% negative to Trump and then Trump wins the election in a landslide, that means obviously your news is not credible and you're not credible as a reporter. | ||
| So I've answered your question. | ||
| You should go and look at the Democrats who received money from Epstein, who spent their time. | ||
| Larry Summers was with him all the time. | ||
| That creep of the fund guy was with him all the time. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| Reed Hoffman. | ||
| I don't know Reid Hoffman, but I know he spends a lot of money on the radical left. | ||
| Reid Hoffman, in my opinion, should be under investigation. | ||
| He's a sleazebag. | ||
| And those are the people, but they don't get any press. | ||
| They don't get any news. | ||
| And you're not after the radical left because you're a radical left network. | ||
| But I think the way you ask the question with the anger and the meanness is terrible. | ||
| You ought to go back and learn how to be a reporter. | ||
| No more questions from you. | ||
| No soup for you. | ||
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I love that. | |
| Just mid-rat, he like collects the sauce. | ||
| He's like, you're just a terrible person. | ||
| I love that. | ||
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I love that. | |
| So I'm not going to lie, my biggest fear as a White House correspondent is asking a question to the president, having him say, what outlet are you with? | ||
| And then calling me fake news and saying, I should be out of here. | ||
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Dude, I'm with Tim Cast and be like, I don't like that weasel mother. | |
| Are you kidding? | ||
| You'd be flattered if he said that. | ||
| He'd say, I've never heard of that. | ||
| Go work for a real company. | ||
| That's what he said to a couple of other outlets. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| But what you got to do, Eli, my advice to you, you have to say, Mr. President, two questions. | ||
| Actually, a statement and a question. | ||
| You're brilliant. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Your hair is fantastic. | ||
| About the tariffs. | ||
| Do you think you're going to make it to the Supreme Court? | ||
| He loves it when the reporters glaze him, but I refuse to. | ||
| And he'll make a mockery of it, too, when a reporter will ask a soup. | ||
| There are journalists in the White House course, but like, who got put in the pool? | ||
| Who asked questions like that? | ||
| And he'll say, look how wonderful this person is. | ||
| This is my favorite reporter. | ||
| And it's a little bit too on the nose for me. | ||
| And I think he doesn't respect it either. | ||
| Dude, if he ever gets really mad at you and then he's like, what organization do you with? | ||
| You're just like, ABC. | ||
| We'll give you a license. | ||
| We're sorry. | ||
| Or you just got to be like, Mr. President, question. | ||
| As the greatest president of my lifetime, how do you feel the Supreme Court potentially striking down your tariffs? | ||
| Tim, just whatever the question is, add with, as the greatest president of my generation. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You guys are doing it wrong. | ||
| Mr. President, as the most pro-Israel president that has ever existed, why do you support Israel and the Jewish people so much in a time of rampant anti-Semitism? | ||
| Why are you standing up for the Jewish people so fervently? | ||
| Why are you so brave and so masculine to stand up when it's such a call me Peggy? | ||
| I'm kind of into that. | ||
| Mr. President, as the most handsome president of my generation, do you have concerns over your staunch support of Israel being taken by anti-Semites and used against you in the midterms? | ||
| Also, you look fantastic. | ||
| I desperately need you, if you get a question, say President Trump, gay son or thought daughter. | ||
| Because the country wants to know. | ||
| The country wants to know where he lines up on that. | ||
| People talked a lot of shit to me when I asked, what is a woman? | ||
| That was one of my first questions. | ||
| I was trying to start off easy with that. | ||
| That was great, though. | ||
| He loved it. | ||
| And then a lot of reporters were like, oh, you get an opportunity to ask the president a question. | ||
| Like, that's what you waste your question on. | ||
| And he said, someone who's much smarter than me. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| See, that's like a 50s answer. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like men pretending that women were smarter than them. | ||
| You know, make believe. | ||
| Yeah, it's hard to feel bad for any of these journalists because they're actually in a hyper privileged position to be in any of those locations to begin with. | ||
| I desperately wanted to be in the pool when Muhammad bin Salman was here earlier today. | ||
| They had the opportunity to go in there and ask questions to them. | ||
| If you're ever on Air Force One, you have to have a lot of money to be able to pay to be on there. | ||
| It costs money to be on there, and that's a barrier to entry. | ||
| But then for them to give you that access and then let you to be on there, you know, to be able to ask the president questions, you're in a position of power. | ||
| All these people are hyper-privileged and lucky to be there. | ||
| Beyond that, I saw it was like Rebecca the Blaze reporter. | ||
| She got like free McDonald's. | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| From Trump? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'm like, what's going on? | ||
| It's like, I want to hang out. | ||
| He only does that for young, beautiful women. | ||
| I haven't gotten free McDonald's. | ||
| They might think I keep you. | ||
| You got to glaze a little more. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
| No, I can't glaze outright. | ||
| You should bring McDonald's to him. | ||
| I don't have reverse sit on. | ||
| I was thinking of Trump. | ||
| the wranglers though with flowers or something you know you should do is caroline levitt i could get her to something No, no, when you go to the Oval Office next time and like Trump's going to be there, bring two Big Macs and literally be eating one as you ask your question. | ||
| I actually brought one for you, Mr. President. | ||
| My question for you is: he's going to be like, oh, thank you. | ||
| I love these things. | ||
| You saw he did that McDonald's summit, and he said, like, I've been a great customer or something like that for a long time. | ||
| He was like, I'm the first fry cook to be president. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| The first fry cook who later went on to become president. | ||
| So true. | ||
| Let's jump to this story. | ||
| This is a weird story. | ||
| Protests in Dearborn. | ||
| Anti-Islam activists clash with Muslim residents. | ||
| Well, my understanding is they're Christians that are clashing. | ||
| And we have this video from Nick Shirley. | ||
| I think this is the right video, right? | ||
| He says, happening now, Christian and Islamic protesters are clashing in Dearborn. | ||
| Qurans have been hit with bacon and burning attempts of the Quran have happened. | ||
| This could get ugly. | ||
| Speaking of piggy. | ||
| Right now, here in Dearborn, Michigan, you have a group of Christian protesters who have came out here to Dearborn as it is the number one city for Islam here in the United States, as it is one of the only towns here in the United States where the majority of the population belong to the religion of Islam. | ||
| Some people have been attacked. | ||
| One man attempted to burn the Quran as he beat the Quran with bacon. | ||
| The blues have now shown up. | ||
| Counter protesters are over here. | ||
| You have Palestinian protesters, Islamic protesters, and it has gotten wild here. | ||
| People have been pepper sprayed. | ||
| Cam Higby was pepper sprayed. | ||
| And you're also seeing takeovers as well as to have blocked off all of the road. | ||
| And now traffic is coming through. | ||
| And we're got, yes, sir, I got you. | ||
| And right now you have a bunch of people, and it's only about 3:30 right now. | ||
| It could get wild here in Dearborn, Michigan. | ||
| We'll see what happens. | ||
| Who would have thought that the Crusades in 2025 were going to be in the United States taking back Dearborn, Michigan? | ||
| Yeah, three. | ||
| You know what this reminds me? | ||
| I want to show off this far side comic to the Davos group and the World Economic Forum so they can understand Dearborn, Michigan. | ||
| It's a comic from the far side where there's two aliens, and one says, Zorak, you idiot, you've mixed incompatible species in the Earth Terrarium, and it's an earth terrarium with a grizzly bear eating a hunter. | ||
| And my point is, when I see Christians and Muslims fighting each other in Dearborn, this multicultural democracy idea they have where they're like, multiculturalism is great until you put two religions next to each other that oppose each other and they start fighting. | ||
| And we don't want that to happen. | ||
| We are not. | ||
| You're not going to have an ideology that doesn't like the other ideology, stand at each other, smile, and work together. | ||
| And that's the problem of polarization in this country is because the more entrenched the ideology gets, the more likely you're going to get towards the higher the chance of getting towards violence. | ||
| Well, what they've done in this country is they've created enclaves of various groups like Somalis in Minnesota, Minneapolis, and now Islam in Muslims in Dearborn. | ||
| And in these surrounding areas, you're going to have American Christians and you're going to have a growing influence of Islam. | ||
| And there's going to be a clash of ideas because there's going to be people in the American traditionalist side being like, hey, what you're doing to those little girls is not good. | ||
| Not saying like literally every Muslim is going to do that, but there's practices in Islam that Americans will not tolerate or even illegal that are happening there in Dearborn. | ||
| This idea of mixing all these cultures in terms of like putting them next to each other does not work. | ||
| You will get people to fight. | ||
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| Well, I mean, like the Democrats, you expect them to support this, obviously, because they subscribe to the blank slate theory, these sorts of things. | ||
| But even the Republicans are completely to blame for this because for the longest time, the dialogue, even Republicans are endorsing mass migration. | ||
| They're like, well, we'll just give them like a pocketbook constitution and they'll become as American as anybody else. | ||
| And this is every single time you see a story like this where you've imported some sort of old world conflict into America. | ||
| It's just a reminder that like, no, there actually is something intrinsic to being an American. | ||
| It's a little bit deeper than just like general vague subscription to like liberty and freedom. | ||
| It's like, yeah, most people are like on board with that. | ||
| There's a little more to it. | ||
| We got to dig a little more. | ||
| That's like, that's why the last question Charlie Kirk really posed to the movement is what is an American? | ||
| Because as our borders have been open for so long, they're going to see more and more of this. | ||
| And that question is going to cry out for an answer more and more and more. | ||
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Totally. | |
| And I think there's a huge problem in America with assimilation right now. | ||
| Like, what are people assimilating to? | ||
| It's that question of what does it mean to be an American actually provides an answer that they're not assimilating to our traditions. | ||
| I just foundations. | ||
| I just watched a podcast with Nick Friedas and Arn McIntyre. | ||
| And Arn had a great, great thought about this. | ||
| The idea that you can just come to the United States and we have magic dirt. | ||
| You're going to automatically become a Jeffersonian democracy lover. | ||
| This was, and I've said this before, this was solidly, this idea was solidly proven wrong when the United States invaded Iraq. | ||
| You threw dirt on people and nothing happened. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, they didn't, you know, you brought them democracy, and what did you get? | ||
| Not a Jeffersonian democracy. | ||
| I just need to pause right there and say, we tried that with Liberia along. | ||
| We did. | ||
| We did. | ||
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This is the Liberia. | |
| The Liberian Constitution almost completely is a mirror image of ours. | ||
| It's almost the exact same thing. | ||
| And it didn't turn into the United States. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| So that doesn't make sense. | ||
| How's that possible? | ||
| Well, you know, it takes a certain kind of people that are looking for the type of government that we have. | ||
| And it's like you've said before, the Constitution, it doesn't make people love the Constitution, right? | ||
| If your Constitution is in the people and they believe in the Constitution, if you have a population that doesn't believe in things like property rights, no written Constitution is ever going to make them believe in property rights. | ||
| I mean, it doesn't work because America is not an idea. | ||
| It's a nation. | ||
| It's a people with a shared heritage that recognize and understand that their rights don't just come from parchment, right? | ||
| It's not just the Constitution. | ||
| It's from God. | ||
| And it's a shared belief in that creator and those specific rights that are bestowed upon them. | ||
| And they come with duties, right? | ||
| And I think, you know, for a long time, we've had this post-World War II consensus that America is an experiment. | ||
| It's a city on a hill. | ||
| You had, you know, the George Bush second inaugural address where we're going to take this to the world, right? | ||
| That's a failure. | ||
| Neoconservatism was one of the most, I think, misguided and destructive ideologies that seeped into the right in just like American political history. | ||
| And it's done untold damage. | ||
| You've lost treasure. | ||
| You've lost lives and you've lost purpose. | ||
| And, you know, for a long time, people talked about America as a melting pot. | ||
| Multiculturalism does not produce a melting pot. | ||
| It produces a pressure cooker. | ||
| And this is what that creates. | ||
| It produces enclaves. | ||
| It produces enclaves of people that have Like-minded, you know, cultures, and they believe that they want to have their society in a larger, broader society. | ||
| And this is like the this is where the conversation needs to move. | ||
| Because when you're like talking about immigration, why we should restrict immigration, everyone is in agreement, or a lot of people on the right are in agreement that, like, okay, so there's some economic impacts, like housing, jobs, et cetera, et cetera. | ||
| But we also need to stop shaming people for having like concerns about the culture of their country changing. | ||
| Like immigration, as a British person, radically alters your culture because the demographic composition of your country is a very valid complaint to have, a very valid concern to have. | ||
| And so I'm really tired of people that are supposedly on our side, like tone-policing everybody over saying, like, yeah, you know what? | ||
| It would be nice if New York City didn't have, like, Zoron wouldn't be a thing because Zoron actually is assimilated. | ||
| He's assimilated to New York City. | ||
| That is what New York City looks like in 2025. | ||
| Zoron's actually a great representation of what New York City in 2025 looks like. | ||
| Go to Queens. | ||
| It's half foreign born. | ||
| Same thing with Elon Omar. | ||
| Elon Omar is actually a great example of what Minneapolis looks like. | ||
| It's like a quarter Somali. | ||
| So it's like, yeah, I think immigration or economics aside, we're all in agreement there. | ||
| The cultural component is a perfectly valid concern to have. | ||
| You change the people out, the culture is going to change. | ||
| It's not this magical thing that floats around that you absorb in the air. | ||
| It's in you. | ||
| Another thing that Orin was saying in that podcast, he was saying, you know, just because you have someone that comes to the United States, they shouldn't automatically think that they're going to become a citizen. | ||
| And he was saying, you know, maybe he's like, just because you get a green card and you're allowed to live here doesn't mean that you'll become a citizen, doesn't mean that you should expect to be able to vote. | ||
| Maybe your grandkids will, right? | ||
| Like, but the idea that you come to the United States and you become a citizen and you automatically get a set, you're getting enfranchisement and you get a say in how this country is, you know, what the government's like and what kind of laws are passed. | ||
| Like that shouldn't be the way that we run our country. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What kind of empire historically would allow a foreigner to come to that country who like bothered to get a citizenship like five years ago and then take over the seat of that empire? | ||
| Like on what planet are we doing that? | ||
| And that's exactly what's happening right now with Zoron. | ||
| We used to be a much more brutal people. | ||
| And we look back on these things often with derision and regret. | ||
| And I think there are many circumstances in which we should, but I also think there's many circumstances in which we should not. | ||
| And that is this idea. | ||
| I'll put what I mean to say is this. | ||
| If you were at a bar or restaurant and let's just go back, I don't know, maybe the 60s, 70s, you're with your wife and a guy walked up and said something untoward to your wife. | ||
| The guy would punch him in the face. | ||
| No cops would be called and everyone would be like, don't talk about a man's wife like that. | ||
| Today, it's just like pure litigious. | ||
| No one, everyone puts their hands up and like, what do we do? | ||
| The criminal runs, you know, someone will steal money from the register and everyone's like, better not do anything about it. | ||
| You've got the story where a guy tried shoplifting from a spirit Halloween. | ||
| And when the security guard stopped him, fight breaks out. | ||
| And when the criminal is on top of him punching him, the security guard shoots the guy and gets charged. | ||
| So a criminal tried robbing a place and the security guard doing his job to stop him is getting beaten by the guy, shoots him in self-defense, and they charge the security guard. | ||
| That's what I mean by we are not a brutal people in the right way anymore. | ||
| We've gone too far in the other direction and now we're basically like, no, no, don't. | ||
| Like the criminals, it's not their fault. | ||
| Have we stopped to ask what socioeconomic factors made the guy try to steal from the store? | ||
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| Well, the brutality is permitted for like the lowest common denominator. | ||
| Like there is a proportion of the country, like the homeless, people that are just in general just delinquents. | ||
| Like they're permitted to just impose brutality on the rest of the country. | ||
| And we're just like supposed to take it and like hope that they just stop because they're state. | ||
| Have you no heart? | ||
| They read a pamphlet. | ||
| Let me pull this story from the from the Associated Press. | ||
| Man sets fire to a woman on a Chicago L-train before fleeing, police say. | ||
| And the only question I have is: what socioeconomic factors led this man to incinerate, to immolate this woman, this poor man, this poor, poor man. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| It was our fault he did this. | ||
| No, he didn't. | ||
| We should all apologize. | ||
| I'm pretty sure this was from Palestine. | ||
| I was joking, but for real? | ||
| Oh, probably. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| Do we know anything about him? | ||
| Who is this guy? | ||
| Let me read the story. | ||
| Here's a story. | ||
| They say a man doused a woman with fluid and set her on fire. | ||
| I don't mean to take this lie. | ||
| I mean, this is a horrifying story. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Leaving her in critical condition. | ||
| The attack happened Monday night on a blue line train. | ||
| Witnesses told the investigators a 26-year-old woman and a man, believed to be in his 40s, began arguing. | ||
| And the man then doused her with a liquid and set her on a light. | ||
| When the train pulled into the Clark and Lake stop, the man fled and the woman stumbled out and fell to the ground. | ||
| Police said, noting she was taken to a hospital. | ||
| A person of interest in the attack was taken into custody. | ||
| Like many other. | ||
| So is there another story on the argument? | ||
| I'm sure there is. | ||
| I'll try and find it. | ||
| But I was mocking the circumstances around our lax society and how it's come to the point where you had a street immolation? | ||
| A guy had lighter fluid on him? | ||
| Like, what is going on? | ||
| Yeah, because the argument precedes the lighting on fire. | ||
| So, like, presumably he had it on his inventory already. | ||
| And then, like, I don't know, either he's picking a fight or like he's just like, I don't want to carry a firearm. | ||
| If I get in a fight, I'll just light someone on fire. | ||
| This is a serious story. | ||
| The joke was actually distasteful. | ||
| No, I feel bad. | ||
| The joke is distasteful? | ||
| My joke, yeah. | ||
| He did it for Palestine. | ||
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| Oh, you were joking. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I thought you were literally because they got into an argument over something. | ||
| I thought there was a news story saying they were arguing because it was a lot of fun. | ||
| Because of that guy who self-immolated a couple of years ago outside of the forest. | ||
| You forgot it. | ||
| Or there's the other story where you mean the other story where the guy went up to the pro-Israel people and doused them with fluid. | ||
| No, no, there was another guy. | ||
| I get your point. | ||
| I'm saying this is. | ||
| I'm just saying, why make the joke when someone literally already did this? | ||
| That's why I thought you were being serious. | ||
| No, yeah. | ||
| No, it was distasteful. | ||
| My point ultimately was. | ||
| Very distasteful. | ||
| I don't pull the strings. | ||
| It is insane. | ||
| Yeah, they just say verbal altercation. | ||
| I thought you were literally saying because maybe AP was omitting that fact because they would do something like that. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| But there was a verbal altercation. | ||
| 26-year-old woman, a 45-year-old man, and he poured a liquid on her and ignited it. | ||
| I try not to beef with randos on the street, especially with people with nothing to lose. | ||
| Those are the people who you want to argue with the least. | ||
| If they look like they have nothing to lose, you just got to take it, drop your ego, walk away, especially from the usual suspects, homeless-looking people. | ||
| I learned during COVID in DC when it was like me and just the tweakers on the metro that you just don't interact with anyone on the trains. | ||
| You just don't. | ||
| Like there's a ton of people who just camp out and ride all day long that are ready to lose it. | ||
| This is a lesson you learn in Chicago. | ||
| My friends from the suburbs would road rage all the time. | ||
| And I was like, you will be shot and murdered. | ||
| I'm like, if you are in my car, don't scream and hang out the window at another vehicle because they will pull a gun and put a bullet in your face. | ||
| You just let them honk rage or cut you off. | ||
| It's not worth it. | ||
| Bro, I've been driving down the street in Chicago and a guy just pointed a gun out of his car and just shot at me and my brother for no reason. | ||
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No. | |
| No reason whatsoever. | ||
| Don't give them one. | ||
| This is Chicago. | ||
| It is insane. | ||
| This is what we get. | ||
| You know what's really funny, guys? | ||
| I have a funny add-on to this story. | ||
| I'm going to pull this up on X. | ||
| I didn't know this. | ||
| I just found out recently that I had made this post about crime by political party that went massively viral. | ||
| And I was not aware. | ||
| I have it right here, actually. | ||
| And we'll throw this into the mix. | ||
| And what I said was this: this is what violence rates look like depending on political party. | ||
| How effing weird, am I right? | ||
| When you get rid of fringe wackos and count crime by party control, it looks a lot different. | ||
| I literally said by party control. | ||
| The graph literally says total violence rates for the sum of cities. | ||
| This is 2023 combined violent rates by party. | ||
| The graph is, I went on ChatGPT and I said, of the top most populous cities, give me a graph showing total crime by party control. | ||
| And this is what you get. | ||
| This is the data. | ||
| In the top cities, most of them are controlled by Democrats. | ||
| And do you know what the response I get is? | ||
| Well, this chart is only true because Democrats run most cities. | ||
| And I'm like, that's literally my point. | ||
| I don't understand how is that an argument to what I'm making? | ||
| I'm making the point. | ||
| You are getting a massive amount of crime because Democrats are running the cities. | ||
| Like, do you, do you agree? | ||
| Well, here's the funny part. | ||
| Snopes, it's got 26.3 million views. | ||
| I didn't know it got so much attention. | ||
| I tweeted it and just forgot about it. | ||
| But Snopes did a breakdown, and they were basically saying Tim Pool's data is misleading as it doesn't actually clarify what's going on, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| So they made their own graph, which shows literally the same thing. | ||
| Combined violent crime rates by mayoral party of the 13 U.S. cities with the highest crime instances. | ||
| And it's even lower for Republican. | ||
| The point is, in a city where the population votes Republican, crime is, there is less crime. | ||
| And on average, the point of the chart was not to say Republicans commit less crime than Democrats. | ||
| It was to say Democrats control all of the major cities, and this is where crime is happening. | ||
| My expectation from this, because we've gone over the data before, a separate chart, is that in cities where you have a Republican mayor, crime is actually lesser. | ||
| So you don't need to look at the top 13 cities. | ||
| Look at West Virginia. | ||
| Crime is lower on average here than in other places. | ||
| You look at all of the major blue cities, and that is where most of the crime is occurring. | ||
| The reason I put this together is because there was a story from the Washington Post a couple years ago that said, when you track per capita and when you track volume, Democrat cities have the highest per capita and the highest volume of crime. | ||
| And there was only one city at the time, it was San Diego, that was run by a Republican that made it to the top, and it had a lower than average crime per capita and by volume. | ||
| And they argue, well, by volume doesn't make sense because it's a lower population. | ||
| Agreed, per capita then? | ||
| This is what you get in places like Chicago. | ||
| Look, man, here's the question for you guys and for the audience, and you guys can comment. | ||
| How do you feel about living in a society where you are told, if someone begins to berate you or threaten you, shut up and just do as you're told? | ||
| I feel bad. | ||
| I want to live in a world with more Daniel Pennys. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| I have always been more of the mind of growing up in Chicago, the lesson I learned was if you refuse to be weak, they'll leave you alone. | ||
| And I think this is true because the United States for a while had this ethos in terms of foreign policy. | ||
| We don't negotiate with terrorists for hostages for anything. | ||
| But if someone takes a kidnapper in a foreign country, the U.S. says they make sure the statement is, you will get not a single penny from us, but special forces will rain down at two in the morning from a helicopter with night vision and put a bullet in the face of you and your families and rescue the hostages. | ||
| So what happens? | ||
| This is what they train in hostile environment. | ||
| They tell you, if you're an American and you are kidnapped, hang tight, you will be rescued. | ||
| Now, if you're European, you're going to be sold because the European policy is pay whatever the ransom is. | ||
| So when kidnappers see a foreigner, if they kidnap you and you say I'm an American, they'll drop you and say, get out of here, go away. | ||
| Because they know the only thing that's going to happen is a helicopter at 2 in the morning and night vision goggles. | ||
| But if you say I'm Spanish or I'm German, they'll say, payday, and they'll take you. | ||
| That's the macro lesson. | ||
| Certainly, there are instances where if you're walking on the street and some crazy dude threatens you and you try and go to a fight, you might die. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But in my view, the science shows this. | ||
| We've talked about it before. | ||
| If you're the kind of person that will be demure, when someone comes up to you and threatens you, you say, yes, anything you say, you will get robbed more often. | ||
| And this is why it's spreading. | ||
| We used to be a more brutal people. | ||
| We are not anymore. | ||
| And the reality is, this woman was immolated and she's probably going to die. | ||
| Had she pulled out a knife, she'd be in prison. | ||
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| Well, yeah, I mean, the brutality was all the way up. | ||
| Like, I mean, the government handled this before this needed to be handled on the street. | ||
| That's what loony bins are for. | ||
| This guy should have been in a loony bin. | ||
| He's probably distributing some really distressing behaviors. | ||
| He'd probably be in a rubber ramada right now. | ||
| That's this. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| But in all seriousness, this might just be a guy who, in his view, he's in his 40s. | ||
| He lived a life he developed in this city. | ||
| He believes he can do what he wants. | ||
| How does a culture get to the point where people have no fear that they can bring lighter fluid or some kind of flammable liquid and be on a train and be like dousing a woman? | ||
| I got to be honest. | ||
| I understand it's a matter of seconds to splash someone with a liquid and then light them up, but it's still not faster than a stab or something. | ||
| I'm curious. | ||
| People don't expect this. | ||
| Is there a better way to put it? | ||
| Now that it's out there, I got to say, if someone splashes you with a liquid, run. | ||
| Or if they're about to splash you, run. | ||
| It could be an acid attack. | ||
| It is insane that we have to say this, but this is what our cities have turned into because we have, you know, I take that back. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| We are a brutal people to the innocent. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And the Democrats are brutal to those who would seek to protect themselves. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They literally prioritize the most dysfunctional people. | ||
| And this doesn't just apply to crime. | ||
| This applies to everything. | ||
| Is that the dysfunctional in our society are prioritized with everything. | ||
| And it's really and really infuriating. | ||
| Crime is where it costs people's lives. | ||
| So that's where it's the most prevalent. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This guy, presumably, I'll just speak about like these homeless, these, you know, mentally disturbed people in general, is they don't even have the mental faculties to even comprehend what the outcome could be of their action. | ||
| And that's why they need to be institutionalized. | ||
| They can't even understand that there would be any law that would come down on them. | ||
| When your IQ is so low, you have zero impulse control. | ||
| You have zero comprehension of consequences. | ||
| That's why the breakfast question is a thing. | ||
| This guy would not be able to answer the breakfast question. | ||
| No, but again, what if he can? | ||
| What if this is a person who's of sound mind who just says, they will do nothing about this? | ||
| It could be, but he would be an exception to the majority of people on the Chicago trains that are walking around that are just ready to snap at any moment. | ||
| I think what we've seen, it's fair to say that in a lot of Chicago with the violence, it certainly is a breakfast question issue. | ||
| These guys are killing each other because they're being insulted on the internet. | ||
| It's funny because for most people, when you go online and we all insult each other, it results in nothing. | ||
| But in Chicago, you insult somebody, they show up to your house, and they got switches and they just spray your house down. | ||
| And there was a story I covered where some old lady got killed because the dudes lived in the second floor in an apartment and in the back. | ||
| So when they unloaded in the house, the lady on the first floor got killed because the guys upstairs are talking smack on Snapchat. | ||
| Yup, those guys wouldn't answer the breakfast question. | ||
| For those that aren't familiar, it's if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday, how would you have felt? | ||
| And if their response is, but I didn't have breakfast or, but I did have breakfast, it means they can't understand a conditional hypothetical. | ||
| And the response should be, if I didn't, hungry, I guess. | ||
| Or if you're someone who doesn't, I don't eat breakfast. | ||
| I'd say, well, considering I don't eat breakfast, I probably would feel the same as I always do. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| There are many people. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I love the conditional hypothetical thing. | ||
| Just ask everybody a conditional hypothetical hypothesis. | ||
| Well, ask that reporter, it's like, hey, how would you feel if Trump didn't call you Piggy? | ||
| Be like, he did call me Piggy. | ||
| It's probably the answer you would indeed get. | ||
| Average Germany. | ||
| You know, the problem is, I think it's multifaceted. | ||
| First of all, it's the criminals know that most people in our society are going to behave in a passive way. | ||
| So they're going to be able to get away with it. | ||
| And a big part of the reason why people will behave in a passive way is because, first of all, the justice system will prosecute you for defending yourself if you actually quote unquote win the engagement, right? | ||
| You somehow are able to come out on top and not get beaten to a pulp or you're able to defend yourself. | ||
| The justice system is going to prosecute you or attempt to prosecute you like it did with Daniel Penny. | ||
| And they know that if they're the people that are aggressing, if they're going to attack people, the justice system will not prosecute them. | ||
| You've got consistently repeat offenders that are carrying out these attacks and stuff. | ||
| And there's nothing that the government does. | ||
| The government doesn't put them, the justice system doesn't put them in jail. | ||
| They're released on bail or bond immediately. | ||
| They walk right out the same day they're arrested. | ||
| And so there's no downside to people that have low impulse control just behaving however they want. | ||
| Yeah, we've forgotten as a society that some people just don't want to be rehabilitated, right? | ||
| Some people are just crazy. | ||
| Some people do intend to enact violence on others. | ||
| And, you know, I had a friend in D.C., Philip Todd, who was subject to this, right? | ||
| He was just walking down H Street. | ||
| I think it was around dinner time. | ||
| And this guy who was released a couple days before on, I believe, for Step Back Credits, just knifed him in the street. | ||
| And he got knifed in the head. | ||
| He was a Rand Paul staffer. | ||
| You can look this up. | ||
| But is he okay? | ||
| He's okay. | ||
| Yeah, he survived. | ||
| But it was terrible. | ||
| Yeah, tragic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it happens to more people than you think. | ||
| And this was why I particularly was like so ecstatic about President Trump putting the National Guard in D.C. Because there were so many staffers that were getting carjacked. | ||
| There were so many staff that were going out at night to just go to the bar and have just a social gathering with their friends or just leaving work from the Hill and just interacting with people that only meant harm for them. | ||
| There was a period of time on the Hill. | ||
| I mean, people who worked with me know this. | ||
| Like I was seriously pushing for staff to be able to conceal carry on the hill, right? | ||
| Because I mean, think about it. | ||
| And they still should be allowed to. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They totally should, right? | ||
| I mean, the secret is like there is a little area in the law that actually allows them to if a member delegates that ability. | ||
| But the issue is like with a surprise attack, you're walking down the street and someone comes up behind you. | ||
| You don't just spin around and draw on them. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| So if someone is nuts and they're just going to stab you, there's little you can do except for never let anyone walk near you. | ||
| And I'm not saying draw them. | ||
| I'm saying walk the other way, turn around, face them, back off, move the other direction. | ||
| And that's the sad thing is these policies have resulted in people who are saying, what is the meme online? | ||
| Would you rather be racist or dead? | ||
| Or like, would you rather be alive and racist or what is it? | ||
| Not racist and dead or something like that. | ||
| Sentiment, yeah. | ||
| And it's being said by people who typically are racist, but the point they're making is, what's the point of taking the chance? | ||
| If you're racist, who cares? | ||
| If you tend not to be, sooner or later someone might stab you. | ||
| And I'm like, I think it's actually more so just depending on the area you're in and there's high crime, don't walk near people. | ||
| The sentiment is just like stay away from other people. | ||
| It's a scary thought. | ||
| That's the world we live in. | ||
| And it's because we are not a brutal people anymore. | ||
| Again, correction. | ||
| We're brutal to the victims. | ||
| And because of that, people are scared to defend themselves. | ||
| Let's jump to this story, though. | ||
| The end is nigh. | ||
| I hope you guys have prepared and kissed your loved ones. | ||
| NASA is tracking a vast anomaly growing in Earth's magnetic field. | ||
| Y'all noticed that there was an aurora that reached down to central Texas in Florida recently. | ||
| A little odd. | ||
| Indeed, it is. | ||
| I talked with Ben Davidson and fact-checked this, but yes, in the last hundred years, there have been 10 northern lights phenomenon in the lower 48 reaching down this far into the United States. | ||
| Five of them happened in the last two years. | ||
| Ben Davidson argues that the Earth's magnetic field is weakening. | ||
| And so solar storms, as well as standard solar activity, is more likely to penetrate to the surface, causing power outages and radio problems, static interference, et cetera. | ||
| And then we get this story. | ||
| This one's actually kind of freaky. | ||
| They say since 2014, there is a gigantic dent in the magnetosphere that has grown to the size of, I think it says Europe and getting bigger. | ||
| So the question I have here with this story, and they say, don't worry, it won't affect life on Earth. | ||
| We've seen, again, with these auroras, there are theories that are called kooky that the poles may shift and this will cause a catastrophe on earth, a cataclysm. | ||
| At the same time, I wonder if there is a connection to the fact that billionaires are building mountain bunkers in New Zealand, underground in Hawaii, in Montana, and Wyoming. | ||
| Why are powerful people building underground mountain bunkers? | ||
| Now, it could just be that if you got the money, why not? | ||
| Right? | ||
| If you're sitting on billions of dollars, Elon's probably like, sure, I guess. | ||
| What else are you doing with it, right? | ||
| However, we know that cash, that net worth isn't liquid. | ||
| This would mean these billionaires are liquidating assets into cash to fund underground bunkers for themselves. | ||
| What is leading them to believe they need these things? | ||
| World War III? | ||
| Is that reasonable? | ||
| Is there something they know about the gigantic Europe-sized dent in the magnetic field? | ||
| Zoran's money. | ||
| That's true, too. | ||
| That's true, too. | ||
| Or are we facing the end of days? | ||
| I mean, look, if you have means to do that, I think that that's something that's been popular for Americans for a long, long time. | ||
| Ever since the dawn of the atomic age, people have been building some kind of underground bunker if they can. | ||
| They're like, oh, you know, what if the big one comes and they're going to drop nuclear bombs and blah, blah, blah. | ||
| I think that that's something that people that have money, like, I don't see the downside of it, right? | ||
| I just want to point out what you're sitting on. | ||
| Why not? | ||
| This story from Independent is from September of this year, why tech billionaires are suddenly hoarding doomsday mega bunkers. | ||
| Don't take the stripper poles out. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The event is coming. | ||
| The event. | ||
| They named it already. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Well, the event is a vague term because everybody that builds these bunkers, well, honestly, I think that it's a vague term because everybody that builds these bunkers, they have a different concept of why they're building them. | ||
| You know, it's like, well, it could be a pandemic that I have to get, you know, a pandemic that's worse than COVID, or it could be a nuclear war. | ||
| It could be the poll shift or what have you. | ||
| And it doesn't really matter. | ||
| I mean, I could. | ||
| I think it's civil war. | ||
| Yeah, it could be. | ||
| You are looking for it. | ||
| Part of the event. | ||
| Part of the reason. | ||
| Part of the reason why I bought my place in New Hampshire is because it's 50 acres and it's tucked away in the woods. | ||
| It's not, my house isn't on the road. | ||
| You can't accidentally show up on my front yard. | ||
| You know, it's hidden away. | ||
| And I bought it because should something bad happen, I've got a place to go. | ||
| And when COVID hit, when I was, you know, I was up in up on the hill in New Hampshire, my life didn't change at all. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, it was the same from one day to the next. | ||
| Okay, this is pretty epic. | ||
| Look at this picture. | ||
| This is another angle of the Atlas. | ||
| What they do is they dig this whole thing out, place it. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| And then they bury it. | ||
| And you get to live in there forever with no sun. | ||
| I'm not going to lie. | ||
| I'm kind of jealous they got such a sweet bug out spot, though. | ||
| Like, that's pretty cool. | ||
| In fact, maybe it just would be nice to have this as a house. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah, what do you mean? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Nobody knows where you are. | ||
| I live in the storage container. | ||
| You have that. | ||
| It's not your house. | ||
| That's just your basement. | ||
| You build the house on top of it. | ||
| Oh, they do. | ||
| Look. | ||
| You bug out. | ||
| Take a look at this. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| It actually, oh, wait. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| They build on top of it and it connects down into the underground bunker. | ||
| Look at this, though. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| You got to just armory. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, no, the whole bunker. | ||
| It's just literally an armory. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| I mean, it's sick. | ||
| And if you have access to that kind of money, why not? | ||
| What's the downside? | ||
| Like, what are you going to do? | ||
| The event is coming. | ||
| Well, no, but this is the point I was making. | ||
| The left argues like billionaires have all this money. | ||
| No, they don't. | ||
| It's not liquid. | ||
| They don't have this money. | ||
| Bezos gets paid $83,000 salary, and then he gets, I think, like a million and benefits. | ||
| When he wants to spend cash, he takes loans out. | ||
| This means it's not so much, and I'm not saying it's impossible or very difficult, but they're doing more than just, I got the cash lying around. | ||
| No, they're taking action and liquidating assets to be able to have the cash to build these deep underground bunkers or whatever. | ||
| And this one is not even an example of a particularly expensive one. | ||
| Like, I'm talking, bro, they got like, there are stories of mountain, like, planes landing inside of mountains. | ||
| No, we can do it. | ||
| Yeah, you can do it super cheap. | ||
| The Hasidics in Brooklyn did it, and they got in a bunch of trouble for it, but that's an economical option. | ||
| You just dig under. | ||
| There was an underground network for a while in COVID, huh? | ||
| Yeah, and they got in trouble for it. | ||
| I was like, hey, they're just prepping. | ||
| Like, what's wrong? | ||
| What are they? | ||
| It's kind of based. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Give them credit for it. | ||
| Yeah, it's true. | ||
| European mountain bunkers. | ||
| Yeah, crazy. | ||
| Military is building them in Europe, the European military. | ||
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If you have Switzerland, if you have a bunker like that, you have to stock it with your arms. | |
| It's like one big bug out shelter. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| I love the cheese. | ||
| But if you have something like that, whether it be a bunker for the event or just a panic room, right? | ||
| Someone breaks into your house, you shove your family downstairs and lock the door, wait for the police to show up. | ||
| Now, what about this? | ||
| Do you guys think this is true? | ||
| The U.S. spent $21 trillion to build secret underground doobesday bunkers for elites. | ||
| This was on Tucker's show back in May, and we talked about it. | ||
| The dumbs, they're called, the deep underground military bases. | ||
| I'm just saying, man, when we see an Aurora in Texas several times in the past couple of years, you might be like, is that normal? | ||
| And the truth is, we are much, we live shorter lives than the Earth is old or whatever. | ||
| So maybe these things happen. | ||
| Auroras happen. | ||
| It's just not that often. | ||
| So maybe we're overreacting. | ||
| But these people may be overreacting substantially more than we are if they're spending 21 trillion. | ||
| Now, maybe this lady right here is just crazy. | ||
| No, it's legit. | ||
| I mean, you have the Aurora Borealis like all over the South. | ||
| I mean, you have these wildfires everywhere, these earthquakes. | ||
| I had a white DoorDash driver the other day. | ||
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Whoa. | |
| Like, things are getting like crazy. | ||
| This is, you know, that reminds me of that 30 Rock episode. | ||
| You guys see this one where it was about Occupy Wall Street? | ||
| And Jack Donaghy, played by everyone's favorite Alec Baldwin, gets mugged by a white guy in a button-up shirt. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| And he's like, we're done. | ||
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It's done. | |
| Biden, buy the body. | ||
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We're at the bottom. | |
| Sell everything. | ||
| He was like, you don't understand, Lemon. | ||
| He was wearing a button-up shirt. | ||
| That means you're, yeah, you're at the bottom. | ||
| So that's when you buy. | ||
| If that ever happens, you buy everything. | ||
| It's funny how that show was like pretty offensive, but nobody cared because back then and it was funny. | ||
| And then within like four years of actually while the show was still on the air, everybody got super woke. | ||
| It's just like adjusted as it went on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, they did a bunch of racist humor and everyone laughed. | ||
| It's like it's like the office. | ||
| The office could never air today. | ||
| Yeah, that's wild. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a shame. | ||
| Well, maybe today. | ||
| Maybe today it could. | ||
| I mean, we've breaking it open a bit. | ||
| Bro, have you been on Instagram lately? | ||
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Oh, my God. | |
| Dude, holy. | ||
| All I can say is, holy what, dude? | ||
| I open up Instagram and I'm like, wow. | ||
| Yeah, they like your average Instagram feed like outflanks 4chan. | ||
| Bro, I saw one video. | ||
| I opened up my Instagram and it was an Android George Floyd buying KFC. | ||
| And I was just like, this is cool. | ||
| Do you not get Charlie Kirk? | ||
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| My boy too yet? | ||
| Yeah, I get them together. | ||
| They're doing high school pages. | ||
| They'll make it like an Agartha high school page and judge if their teachers would make it in or not. | ||
| And it's like the school assemblies right now are probably insane. | ||
| They're probably doing like executions at these schools. | ||
| It's insane what these kids are posting with their teachers. | ||
| And you know what happened was like every time I bring up that Instagram keeps recommending these weird racist humor AI videos to me, people go like, you realize the algorithm is based on what you click on. | ||
| I'm like, yeah, I click on them all the time. | ||
| Like I watch every single one. | ||
| They're hilarious. | ||
| I like them. | ||
| I comment. | ||
| There was one I saw where it was the Olympics and it was a bunch of, it was like a 100 meter dash through showers. | ||
| And it's like white people run through and then like Asians run through and then a bunch of Indians stop and get stuck in front of it and they're like panicking. | ||
| And I was like, what the? | ||
| It had like 100,000 likes. | ||
| There was another one where it was at the Olympics and there was a ladder with a pole going up to a fake roof with a smoke detector and there were two black women changing the smoke detector and it was like first place in 27 seconds. | ||
| And I'm just like, I can't believe Instagram is loaded with these videos. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| There was one where it was the, who's the guy who got stabbed in the chest by the Stingray? | ||
| Oh, Steve Irwin. | ||
| It's Steve Irwin being like, we're looking for the rare African ceiling bird. | ||
| And he goes into a black woman's house and the smoke detector is going, beep, beep. | ||
| I'm like, dude, how is Instagram allowing these videos? | ||
| It's just, it's, it's just the floodgates are done. | ||
| It's a contaminant breach. | ||
| I actually think this is a phenomenon that is why we're seeing this quote-unquote rift on the right. | ||
| Because let me put it this way. | ||
| We'll give this one its own airtime. | ||
| So we got these videos popping up across Instagram that people describe as like racist AI videos or racist humor, whatever. | ||
| I think this shows the fact that these videos are allowed, that the left is so desperately beaten, not gone forever, that there's no unified enemy culturally that the right is concerned about. | ||
| Movies are dropping these film studios like Disney got rid of their DEI department or whatever. | ||
| Bud Light is cooked. | ||
| Target, all of this stuff worked. | ||
| And now you're allowed to, like, we can say retard again. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You're allowed to say these things. | ||
| And I think now we had this period where the left was so entrenched institutionally. | ||
| What with like, you couldn't, you couldn't even say you supported Trump. | ||
| If you, like Vivek Ramaswamy's story, the vape, if you didn't put a black square in your Instagram profile, they came for you. | ||
| That's how insane it was. | ||
| That resulted in people like me and staunch conservatives sitting down together and being like, hey, we got a problem. | ||
| This also resulted in people who are pro-Israel and anti-Israel sitting down and saying, hey, look at that problem. | ||
| But what happens when that problem is gone? | ||
| These same people are at the table and they go, woo, now that we've solved that problem, let's get to the next most serious problem. | ||
| That is, we should stop funding Israel. | ||
| And the other guy goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| I was never on board with that. | ||
| I'm for funding Israel. | ||
| And now you're seeing these rifts emerge on the right because there's nothing else to be like for these individual ideological factions. | ||
| What is left to defeat but their next most pressing passion? | ||
| And so you're seeing the libertarians. | ||
| Largely, I think the right is fracturing on interventionist and anti-interventionist, neoconservative versus new right, or whatever you want to call it. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I think it's really a test to how unifying Charlie Kirk was because he kept everyone focused. | ||
| He was saying, Okay, yes, we won. | ||
| We had a good victory in the election, but we're not at the point yet where we can start like hashing these things out and re-litigating some of these issues. | ||
| We still have a lot of work to do, and he kind of was that unifying. | ||
| And for a lot of other people in the media space, he was kind of a tastemaker, these sorts of things. | ||
| Once he's gone, a lot of people just lost focus right away and they forget that's like, hey, Trump still has three years. | ||
| He has a lot of work to do. | ||
| It's going to take time to do a lot of these things. | ||
| And people instead just went for engagement. | ||
| It went every which way. | ||
| Regardless, people lost focus right away. | ||
| I think that's the primary issue. | ||
| I mean, some of it's just that like we have an incredibly unique political coalition that has elected Donald Trump, right? | ||
| And it's unlike anything I think we've seen in the past couple decades. | ||
| I think the last time you saw a true like middle America recognition or like class that was represented was when Pat Buchanan was really running, right, in the 90s. | ||
| And I think that that draws in different debates. | ||
| And I think, you know, when people heard America first in 2015, when Donald Trump was running, they thought it meant America first, right? | ||
| And I think, you know, Cota Villa was known for always saying that the primary concern of the statesman should be his own nation, right? | ||
| Especially in times of revolution, right? | ||
| Like international affairs should be subordinate to the domestic affairs. | ||
| But I think what you're saying about this coalition was true. | ||
| I just saw a clip where Anna Kasparian said she's been watching Candace Owens. | ||
| And I'm kind of like, yeah, did you see that clip? | ||
| That's like, I don't know who she is. | ||
| Who is Anna? | ||
| The Young Turks. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so it's like, oh, you know, something's happening here politically. | ||
| And I'm wondering if there's like a reorientation now. | ||
| I mean, with obviously the Heritage Foundation and the Tucker thing, and then the Tucker Candace turning point, like there is a rift that is very obvious to everybody. | ||
| These debates are happening. | ||
| People are attacking Tucker for interviewing Nick. | ||
| And the reason why I defend Tucker on this one is crazy because we've interviewed communists who have come on and advocated for Stalin-esque or like Maoists. | ||
| They call themselves revolutionaries, and revolutions are not peaceful. | ||
| They're not talking about peaceful change in government. | ||
| The point is, there's no outrage when I debate a Maoist, but they lose their mind when Nick goes on an interview with Tucker Carlson. | ||
| And it's just like Tucker can talk with whoever he wants and he can agree with whoever he wants. | ||
| Like, what is this policing, this ideological policing that is now occurring? | ||
| And I think we're seeing, it's what I described. | ||
| Now that the shared enemy is routed, Democrats aren't gone forever. | ||
| They're going further left. | ||
| The question now is, who are we going to allow in our movement? | ||
| And that means you're going to see certain factions be like, we don't want you here. | ||
| Because, you know, I think it's fair to say people have different moral worldviews. | ||
| You're not wrong to believe in your moral worldview and you don't want to share space with someone of an opposing moral worldview. | ||
| And now that there's the greater villain is defeated, largely, they're now going to say, why am I sharing space with this person I disagree with? | ||
| And it feels like with the Tucker rift that was a day or two ago where Trump said he can have everyone else want his show. | ||
| It's whatever. | ||
| I think that kind of settled that debate pretty much entirely. | ||
| I think through sheer, what is it? | ||
| Cult of personality alone, the president was able to wrangle all these disparate factions on the right. | ||
| And I don't think there's another figure on the right post-Trump who will be able to do so. | ||
| Trump was able to bring in, you know, these so-called neocons from the past. | ||
| I don't think it was Trump. | ||
| You don't think I think it was totally Trump. | ||
| The anti-immigrant people, the Zionists, of course. | ||
| Charlie Kirk. | ||
| You think it was Charlie Kirk? | ||
| I think it was Charlie. | ||
| Okay, well. | ||
| Think it's not. | ||
| It's not a surprise that now that Charlie's not with us anymore, we are starting to see the infighting the bubbling up, even Trump yelling at Marjorie Taylor Greene. | ||
| I mean, I think Charlie was a negotiator and a leader and he brought people together and he helped. | ||
| He was diplomacy between these various factions and without him, everything everyone's going in various, in different directions. | ||
| I do think here's what, here's what I agree with you on a lot, Donald Trump as a character, there are all these different factions on the right that look up at Trump and say, here's what I agree with. | ||
| And so that creates a sort of de facto, we're all here, we all agree, we like Trump. | ||
| But I believe Charlie was the one at the ground level going between each group and saying, what do you need? | ||
| What can I do for you? | ||
| Stick together. | ||
| And without him, it's being ripped apart and people are going at each other's throats. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I'm just thinking of all these different factions too, like traditionalists, pro-life people, people who would otherwise disagree with a lot of the things he does or says, willing to look past that and get on board. | ||
| I don't know if somebody like a J.D. Vince or Marco Rubio would be able to achieve that in the future, especially when we're seeing more of these cracks in the Republican coalition. | ||
| So, I mean, I feel like we'd be remiss if we didn't talk about it. | ||
| A couple of weeks ago, there was a big uproar on the right from Tucker Carlson interviewing Nick Fuentes. | ||
| And then Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation, put out a statement on Twitter defending Tucker and saying people who are calling him anti-Semitic were wrong and that he stands with Tucker firmly and strongly. | ||
| There's a big uproar to that. | ||
| You were, of course, the chief of staff at the time and defended and supported Mr. Roberts' statement at the time. | ||
| They kind of folded to that backlash. | ||
| It led to a shakeup at the Heritage Foundation that included you. | ||
| Could you tell us a little bit more about what their thinking was behind the scenes and if they're feeling like they're caving to so-called cancel culture? | ||
| I mean, I think Kevin has explained himself, and I don't think I need to explain anything for Dr. Roberts, right? | ||
| I think he's a good man who, you know, I don't think he's necessarily apologized for the statement. | ||
| I think he stood by the fact that we should not engage in cancel culture. | ||
| I mean, who's to tell a guy like Tim who we can and can't have on a show like this, right? | ||
| Like, that's not our role. | ||
| And I think, you know, one of the things that was occurring, and, you know, Kevin talked about this on Dana Losh, I think the day after he put out the statement was there are people behind the scenes that are trying to do that, that are trying to tell people who you can and cannot platform, right? | ||
| And try to police speech. | ||
| I mean, maybe that post-World War II liberalism sentiment like prevails in some circles, but like those of us who are like actually conservatives and trying to conserve the ideals of the American founding, like one of those is primarily free speech. | ||
| And when there's bad ideas, you hash them out and you point out what's bad about them and then you point out what's good, right? | ||
| And you redirect people towards what's correct. | ||
| And I think, you know, President Trump put that in his own way the other night. | ||
| Like, I think Tate was recognizing that. | ||
| I mean, like, President Trump said to himself, why would I tell Tucker Carlson who he can or can't have on his show? | ||
| And I mean, you know, ironically enough, you want to talk about who's on people's shows. | ||
| I mean, nobody was freaking out when Patrick Bett David had Nick Fuentes on his show like a month before, right? | ||
| That doesn't mean that everyone's endorsing Nick Fuentes' ideas. | ||
| Just to play devil's advocate here, the thing about Tucker Carlson is that I know he can be a great journalist when he chooses to do so, but for some reason, he chooses to pick and choose who he uses kids' gloves with. | ||
| So for example, when he was going at Ted Cruz, he made sure to have every question set up and ready to go. | ||
| Some people would argue that he threw a lot of softballs to Nick and was using this opportunity to kind of hedge around his edges. | ||
| And could the difference be senator versus random internet guy? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I think he's more than a random internet guy. | ||
| Just have you heard that? | ||
| And what do you think of somebody arguing things like that? | ||
| Have I heard that people think he put on kids' gloves? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I think that's plainly like thrown out into the internet ether, and that's a conversation. | ||
| I think, you know, what Tim's saying, Ted Cruz is a presidential candidate. | ||
| Tucker Carlson is interviewing some random internet guy with an internet following. | ||
| There's no reason to make excuses or arguments for why Tucker did what he did or didn't do, right? | ||
| All of that's up to Tucker, right? | ||
| And Tucker, at the end of the day, it's his show, how he performs it and how he does it. | ||
| Either his viewership will decline or it will increase based upon what he does. | ||
| And like, who am I, some random guy in America, to be like, Tucker, don't do that, right? | ||
| Like, he's not going to care what I think and he doesn't need to care what I think, right? | ||
| If I don't want to watch it, I'm not going to watch it. | ||
| Yeah, with infighting like this, do you think the MAGA coalition is sustainable? | ||
| I think it has to be. | ||
| I think if not, then you lose 28 and you go to the gulags. | ||
| You lose 26. | ||
| And I think there's a possibility of it. | ||
| I do think the higher probability is that as the midterms come closer, everybody starts hyper-focusing. | ||
| What's going to happen is Democrats will start campaigning. | ||
| They're going to start saying crazy things. | ||
| The focus in the news cycle will be Democrat promises insane thing they have no power to offer. | ||
| And then it doesn't matter if you're pro- or anti-Israel. | ||
| Everyone's focus is going to be, that's nuts. | ||
| And this will bring the right together again. | ||
| However, it doesn't bode well for 28, depending on what Vance has to offer and what his position is going to be, because you are going to get these people who are like, well, Vance, are you pro-Israel? | ||
| And Tucker is a prominent anti-Zionist personality. | ||
| He's critical of Israel and he's got a big following. | ||
| So if JD Vance comes out and says, we're for Israel, Tucker then says, I'm not voting for you. | ||
| Or I'm not interested. | ||
| And then his audience says no, and you lose the voters you need to win. | ||
| I think you're going to lose the American interest if everything we do is debate foreign policy, right? | ||
| Like the American people are purely focused on an America-first agenda. | ||
| They want to see an agenda, particularly Gen Z, who has promised a world that they're just not seeing around them, right? | ||
| Promised upward mobility, promised that if they go to college and get an expensive education, that they would have a high-paying job and a place where they want to live and raise their family, and they could go buy a beautiful home with a white picket fence and have that stereotypical dog and three kids running around in the front yard, right? | ||
| That's not accessible to people. | ||
| And people are sick and tired of hearing all about foreign affairs, foreign relations, and they just want to hear about how can you make America better? | ||
| They want mass deportations. | ||
| They don't want half measures. | ||
| They want to stop seeing blue-collar workers undermined by H-1B workers. | ||
| This is interesting. | ||
| Young Gen Z, 18 to 21, favor Republicans. | ||
| Older Gen Z, 22 to 29, are more Democratic. | ||
| Isn't it crazy that Gen Z is 29 years old? | ||
| Well, and what's more remarkable is where that split is is basically COVID. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So you have the post-COVID Zoomers, pre-COVID Zoomers. | ||
| Pre-COVID Zoomers are like an extension of millennials, effectively. | ||
| It's the post-COVID Zoomers are like the really base, supposedly. | ||
| With post-COVID Zoomers, they're quite literally either trans analogs, effectively, or they're literally like basically groipers. | ||
| Like there's not much in between that. | ||
| I don't know about Zoomer Waffle. | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
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| There's this narrative going around that like the GOP has a Nazi problem. | ||
| Like that's absurd. | ||
| Or a Lua just to tweeted that today. | ||
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| I mean, like, how absurd of an argument is that? | ||
| I mean, YouGov, it was like last November did polling on that question of like, what is the American perspective on Hitler? | ||
| And 1% of Americans, literally 1% of Americans, said that they thought good things about Hitler. | ||
| And that was just the Gripers. | ||
| It is such a small fraction of people that even care about this. | ||
| Do you understand, though, that like kind of circles? | ||
| It circles back to, though, it's like the person who Tucker was interviewing, Nick Funtes, has said good things about Hitler, though, and spoken of him in a positive light. | ||
| And Tucker used kids' gloves when asking him about that stuff. | ||
| He chose not to at all. | ||
| So I guess the greater point would be while you're saying that it's only 1% of the population saying this, this guy is in an interview with Tucker where Tucker has nothing to say about it. | ||
| And I think one of the greater, the bigger issue here becomes that if Fuentes becomes the face of the Republican Party, then the Republicans aren't going to win because this guy is unpalatable to a general electorate beyond, you know, the online right, frankly, and maybe small parts of the electorate, but definitely not to a general electorate in my estimation. | ||
| So I think that's the like, I don't know, is it truly 1%? | ||
| Because the internet would have me thinking something different unless I'm. | ||
| I mean, that's the problem is that like it's the internet. | ||
| All of this conversation is framed within the internet. | ||
| I think there's millions of Americans. | ||
| Yeah, I'm on the internet right now, though. | ||
| I'm not going to say I love Hitler. | ||
| Like, and I don't think that he was a bad guy and that I look up to him and I think Stalin were great guys, even though we're on the internet. | ||
| It's like. | ||
| Yeah, I think like a lot of Zoomers, IRL, like even if their politics, you know, are pretty far to the left, pretty far to the right, like they code very normally. | ||
| There's still like a lot of normal kids. | ||
| Like you're saying, was it Rod Dreer? | ||
| He was talking about the Zoomer staffing in DC. | ||
| He's like, he said, I estimate 30 to 40% are Groipers. | ||
| And I think he's using that as an analog because I think they're trying to set this trap up and they're trying to poison the well with Vance where they're trying to say anyone that is to the right of like Ted Cruz is a Groyper. | ||
| And so like that's the trap that was being set up. | ||
| And Rod Dreyer is great or whatever, but I'm just saying I don't think that 30 to 40% are like tuning into Nick Funtes every night. | ||
| I think they're just people that are disaffected right-wingers that are just kind of frustrated at the way things are moving. | ||
| And so they're, they want to see more and they get labeled groipers. | ||
| I don't think that's entirely true. | ||
| So that's what I was saying earlier. | ||
| I was like to the right or groiers. | ||
| I was just saying. | ||
| Brian, you were on the hill before. | ||
| What do you make of that estimate of 30 to 40 percent? | ||
| I've never met anyone that calls themselves a Groyper. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like never. | ||
| Like it's a purely internet term. | ||
| It's called hiding your power level. | ||
| You don't understand. | ||
| Oh, hiding your power. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I don't know who it is. | ||
| Well, no, I just see that. | ||
| And I'm just so suspicious. | ||
| I'm like, that's, I'm like, you can see it. | ||
| That's what they're going to try to do is they're going to do what they did with the alt-right, where they're going to use that as like a dragnet for 28 when Vance is running and they're going to say, I think this is a neocon play and they're going to try and drag. | ||
| This is Groipers. | ||
| This is the woke right play. | ||
| This is what they say woke right. | ||
| It's a dragnet. | ||
| And it's they are proudly declaring that woke right means the same thing as alt-right. | ||
| It's a catch-all term to excise people from the right. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, I mean, you're just seeing the pincer set up right now. | ||
| And young people are, yeah, again, they've grown up in a world where it's like, why would you, if you're a centrist, that means you have some degree of loyalty to the system, some degree of wanting to uphold it. | ||
| And if you're like, again, like a post-COVID Zoomer, why would you be a centrist? | ||
| Like, what on earth has this system done to reward you in any way whatsoever? | ||
| It's a total joke. | ||
| So it's like, yeah, of course people are increasingly conservative, increasingly leftist. | ||
| It's like, yeah. | ||
| I mean, at least the people that are on the far left are also acknowledging something's wrong. | ||
| If you're genuinely interested in the Gen Z debate and like the direction that our nation is heading, I mean, Mark Mitchell has been doing a lot of interesting polling and just kind of, you know, message testing with Gen Z on like how they feel about these things. | ||
| And one thing that's really notable is, you know, Gen Z is not as concerned about like the policy debate and the press release and like the campaign sloganeering. | ||
| Like they care about outcomes. | ||
| And that's like when it comes to the Epstein file conversation, like we were talking about earlier, right? | ||
| Like the problem that comes with like after this and like why it's a continual sideshow is because there has to be accountability if there are problems, right? | ||
| And the American people just aren't used to seeing accountability from like the governing party right now. | ||
| And Gen Z says, okay, we just imported like 20 million illegal immigrants during the Biden administration. | ||
| Like who knows the actual number, right? | ||
| Like the actual number is not going to be reported. | ||
| But how many non-citizens do we have here that were probably on the terror watch list, right? | ||
| Like how many PRC guys like slipped through and are now plotting an attack of some sort, right? | ||
| Like you hear about these things all the time. | ||
| But why aren't we engaging in a full-on mass deportation effort? | ||
| That's what people want. | ||
| No, I don't think it's a coincidence that the Republican congresspeople who have gone soft on immigration are the same congress people who pushed the vote for the Epstein files. | ||
| That is Thomas Massey and again, Marjorie Taylor Greene have softened up their tones a lot on mass deportations. | ||
| And I don't think it's a coincidence. | ||
| What has Massey said about it? | ||
| Massey says that it's not like one of his big goals. | ||
| And he supports H-1B visas? | ||
| Got enough for me? | ||
| He maintains that. | ||
| And then Marjorie Taylor Greene said, like, oh, it's impractical for businesses, for big businesses to get rid of all these illegal immigrants. | ||
| And she recently did a media tour angling to that effect. | ||
| I thought she was critical of Trump's H-1Bs. | ||
| She doesn't think that we should be deporting as many people. | ||
| She doesn't think we'll be able to deport all the illegal immigrants. | ||
| And Massey supports H-1B visas. | ||
| Really? | ||
| She doesn't think that we will be able to. | ||
| I'll find the direct quote that we should. | ||
| I'll find the quote for you. | ||
| I feel like I've heard the opposite, but I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| And I think they're, no, because they're counter signal. | ||
| Trump came out and said, we're going to give H-1Bs and we're going to do Chinese visas. | ||
| And Marjorie was like, no, I thought that she took the other. | ||
| I thought that's what Trump got mad at her. | ||
| He was like, oh, you know, she's texting me about this. | ||
| What did he say? | ||
| She keeps calling me. | ||
| And then Marjorie was like, no, I texted him about it. | ||
| One thing. | ||
| And it's like, regardless of the GOP with young right-wing guys, the priority is immigration. | ||
| That's like what we see. | ||
| That's what's affecting us directly. | ||
| And a lot of people like will come onto the show or they'll go into the Zeitgeist in general. | ||
| And they're like, the deficit's the biggest issue. | ||
| And it's like, I get that, but that's not how you win. | ||
| I mean, the America Party, that was the whole idea is like worry about money. | ||
| And it's like, dude, we're like, Costco's a disaster. | ||
| I was thinking about our costs here. | ||
| And, you know, I started to look into it and I realized that if I replaced Phil, Elad, and Tate with H-1Bs from India, this show would be a lot cheaper to run and surge, of course. | ||
| And it would be a very, very interesting political show that I think would be worth pursuing. | ||
| We actually had a joke about this a few years ago where we wanted to open. | ||
| Actually, we can do this with AI now. | ||
| The only problem, you know what really is a mess about the AI stuff like Sora is I'm Tim Poole and I own the rights to this. | ||
| And when I go to Sora and say like, make an episode of IRL, like I put a video in of me, it's like, this is copyright protected. | ||
| It won't let me do it. | ||
| And I'm like, it's me. | ||
| It's me. | ||
| But, you know, so same thing when it comes to all that remains in music. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| I'm like, I own it. | ||
| So the recent comments I was referring to with Marjorie Taylor Greene was her criticizing the ways that the immigration raids are going. | ||
| She's saying that there needs to be a more humane way to conduct ICE raids was her criticism. | ||
| Okay, well, that's different than saying that she doesn't support deportations. | ||
| There was more. | ||
| Because to be honest with you, I mean, people might say the same thing about me while I don't agree with her. | ||
| I do think that the optics of the ICE raids can end up causing problems for actually deporting people because you get squishy, left-leaning liberal women. | ||
| They scream and yell because it looks like you're hurting people. | ||
| I also have this quote about Marjorie Tellger and the Rift talking about how the Epstein rift. | ||
| And she said, quote, this has been one of the most destructive things to MAGA is watching the man we supported early on three elections oppose the bill, she told reporters, watching this actually turn into a fight has ripped MEGA apart and a lot Eligal who has no idea what he's talking about. | ||
| The last part I made up, just so you guys are aware. | ||
| Okay, so she also said as a business owner in the construction industry that we need to be realists about labor and create a smarter plan in the business industry and the labor and the construction industry around immigration. | ||
| So she's virtue signaling that we're trying too aggressively to deport illegal immigrants from construction sites in particular. | ||
| She came up in the construction business. | ||
| Her family has a lot of construction business. | ||
| Is it against the rules of YouTube for me to say we should deport Elad? | ||
| Why would you want to deport me, Tim? | ||
| Back to Israel. | ||
| Just for the comedy. | ||
| I'm from Long Island, baby. | ||
| Just for the lulls. | ||
| I'm from Long Island. | ||
| I think I'm just as American as apple pie. | ||
| Send you to the past. | ||
| Yeah, well, Peter Staten Island wants to secede from New York. | ||
| Sure, nobody gives a crap about Staten Island. | ||
| Agreed? | ||
| So they should be able to secede from New York. | ||
| They don't want to be part of Kami Mamdani's Utopia. | ||
| Yeah, you can tell. | ||
| I don't know, Ovil Staten on. | ||
| You lose the impractical jokers, and you'll be regretting that. | ||
| All of this rhetoric about deporting me and Heritage Americans and what it means to be an American. | ||
| It makes me think I might be first in the camp if we build them. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What is an American? | ||
| What makes somebody an American citizen? | ||
| Tim's here talking about deporting me. | ||
| I thought he was hiding me in the attic if shit hit the fan. | ||
| I guess I'm first in the chambers. | ||
| People like to say, oh, I'm first in the gulag. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'm seriously first. | ||
| You'll be like, near the end. | ||
| And they're saying Ryan is probably going to be the first one to take me. | ||
| You misunderstand me. | ||
| I'm reading about him. | ||
| When it hits the fan, I'm going to be sitting with Tate going, wait for the green. | ||
| And you're going to be sitting there with a stone cold look on your face. | ||
| No, no, everybody knows I really pulled the strings. | ||
| You'll be one of the last. | ||
| We love you so much. | ||
| When we start the Heritage American Re-education Camp, she'll be like, come on. | ||
| Don't worry, Aladdin. | ||
| Under the floorboards. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| And then that'll be more the scene where you're looking up at the feet and then you can run to the fields. | ||
| You know, we'll make sure you get away. | ||
| Or disavow everything, by the way. | ||
| I'm saying we'll protect our friends. | ||
| We're going to protect our friend. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| It's safe under the floorboards. | ||
| There's a plugout shelter down there. | ||
| What we'll do is we're going to shave his mustache and head and then teach him how to speak with a southern accent. | ||
| And then, you know. | ||
| Although, to be fair, Sean did think you were Indian. | ||
| You know, that's the first time I got that. | ||
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| We got some great questions here. | ||
| Kremit says, Phil, do you think James Lindsay will regret his lies and commie-style propaganda if he helps Dems get back in power? | ||
| He's trying to balance a scale with the fate of the country on the line, reckless. | ||
| I have no idea or no claim to what James Lindsay is thinking nowadays. | ||
| Well, I'm a Marxist plant, apparently. | ||
| Yeah, it's silly. | ||
| And then he denied he said it. | ||
| It's the weirdest. | ||
| It's like it's psycho babble. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I never said that. | ||
| And I'm like, here's a screenshot of his Marxist. | ||
| He said, possibly a plant. | ||
| Marxists always lie or something like that. | ||
| I still think that Jim has done a lot of important work in the past. | ||
| And I'm very, very thankful that he had a time where he was, you know, being very vocal about the left and stuff. | ||
| I do think that his estimations now are off base. | ||
| I'm not sure why he's behaving the way that he is. | ||
| It's pretty simple, actually. | ||
| I think he's anti-Israel. | ||
| So, but you laugh. | ||
| But here's what's funny. | ||
| You can't pinpoint what he's doing. | ||
| It seems incoherent. | ||
| Right? | ||
| To a degree, yeah. | ||
| His track record is infiltrating organizations, utilize their create arguments that make them look like idiots and then trick them into publishing them. | ||
| He has done this over and over again. | ||
| It is his claim to fame. | ||
| Now he is seemingly aligned with the pro-Israel side saying the stupidest garbled nonsense imaginable. | ||
| He called Mary Morgan a woke right. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Mary talks about dating and pop culture. | ||
| It's just incoherent psychobabble. | ||
| When you, Phil, who've watched him, are saying, I don't understand what he's saying, I think it's clear to say the simple solution is a man who intentionally infiltrates groups to present a fake argument that makes them look bad is probably doing the same thing right now because the pro-Israel side, like when you look at Konstantin Kaisen and Seth Dylan, and they're saying woke right means people who believe that Jews are oppressing them, you're like, I understand the point you're making. | ||
| When James Lindsay comes out and then says, I should be in charge of the national movement and conservatives are bad and Mary is woke right, you go, this guy seems insane. | ||
| These people that are claiming woke right are nuts. | ||
| And that's basically been what he's what he's doing. | ||
| He's doing effectively the same thing he did to academia, but to the neo, the neocon, pro-Israel conservative. | ||
| Like, right. | ||
| I think he's describing like traditionalists as that. | ||
| Like, well, look, I think if you look at what he's. | ||
| You don't want him on your side a lot. | ||
| That's the point. | ||
| I think he's gatekeeping. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that maybe gatekeeping is kind of accurate. | ||
| I think that he is looking at the pendulum that has swung to the right, and he still considers himself a liberal. | ||
| And he thinks that too much influence from the right will be a bad thing for liberalism in the United States. | ||
| And I think that he doesn't want to see liberalism fall out of favor. | ||
| I think that he still thinks that liberalism is the proper political ideology. | ||
| Greed. | ||
| And liberals are anti-Israel. | ||
| Well, I mean, it depends. | ||
| So when I think liberal, I think he's talking about what you would call a classical. | ||
| A traditional liberal who was like, wasn't it like a polyamorous relationship or something? | ||
| Is now all of a sudden aligned with neocons? | ||
| I don't believe it. | ||
| I think if you put him and a neocon in a room 15 years ago, they'd be arguing the whole time. | ||
| So it's surprising now that once again, the guy's famous for infiltrating groups is aligning himself with neoconservative, pro-Israel groups and making them look like they're retarded. | ||
| I think it's just like, guys, this is what he does. | ||
| Why are you acting like all of a sudden he's just incoherent? | ||
| The man historically has been, he infiltrates the left, makes them publish an incoherent argument, and then everyone makes fun of them for saying something dumb. | ||
| And now he's got neocons doing it, and everyone's like, he's serious. | ||
| I'm like, no, he's just anti-Israel. | ||
| And that's funny. | ||
| He's allowed to be. | ||
| Let's read some more super chats. | ||
| All right. | ||
| I identify as tax exempt says, does the Epstein files release include the files from the intelligence agencies? | ||
| I believe it's technically supposed to. | ||
| Whether it will, that's another question. | ||
| So, a couple of things on those Epstein files that are being released. | ||
| I believe that there are different judiciaries in New York and Florida that have their own associated Epstein files that will not be included in this legislative Epstein file drop. | ||
| There's also the Jeffrey Epstein estate that has separate documents. | ||
| So, I suspect, again, we will be seeing a drip of more Epstein info in the future, and this is not the end of it. | ||
| It'll never be the end of it. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Sinek says: if redactions can only be for national security, if whatever they release any redactions, then it is essentially confirmed this was some CIA Mossad blackmail scandal, and our government allowed children to be abused. | ||
| That is a huge leap. | ||
| For all we know, it could be they're aliens, and they're redacting it because aliens were kidnapping kids. | ||
| I mean, I think it's your scenario is more likely, but if there are redactions for national security, it could be because there's a name of an agent that's passively mentioned because they provided some evidence in the file. | ||
| So, put it this way: they could say, I spoke with agent redacted about information they provided from a witness who had at one point been working with an associate of Epstein's. | ||
| That doesn't mean the redaction proves the intelligent agent was involved. | ||
| So, there's likely going to be redactions in that regard. | ||
| It's not a guarantee. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Rajor says, I firmly think he says McGee. | ||
| He puts emphasis on the E part, not on the P, like you usually would. | ||
| Plus, she's skinny and Trump isn't blind. | ||
| It looks like McGee. | ||
| Piggy's more fun. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, what was her name? | ||
| Her name was Lucy, Catherine Lucy. | ||
| Why would he say McGee? | ||
| And people are claiming it's Peggy. | ||
| I'm like, no, her name is Catherine Lucy. | ||
| I'm going with Piggy. | ||
| Yeah, Piggy is hilarious. | ||
| Long on Piggy. | ||
| Is anyone at this point not going to vote for Trump because he called a woman Piggy? | ||
| No. | ||
| I don't think it's. | ||
| One guy. | ||
| One guy's like, what? | ||
| He'll never be on the ball. | ||
| This is the last straw. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Hoppin' Spatches says Tim often talks about how bad and brain-dead kids' shows are. | ||
| And he's absolutely right. | ||
| But I would encourage you and your wife sample bluey. | ||
| It is a very good exception to the rule, pro family. | ||
| My child will not be watching anthropomorphized animals. | ||
| That's not, that's, no, she's going to watch 90 Day Fiancé and the five. | ||
| Don't forget the view. | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| No, my daughter literally watches only 90 Day Fiancé and the Five. | ||
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No way. | |
| Okay, so when my wife is watching TV, she watches 90 Day Fiancé. | ||
| I call it Married to Strangers. | ||
| And then when I come in, I turn the five on. | ||
| And so she's not really watching, but this is what's on the TV. | ||
| We're not going to do any kids' content. | ||
| This psychobabble, hallucinogenic DMT trip cartoon stuff for kids is nuts and a bad idea. | ||
| And that's why we got a bunch of trans furries running around. | ||
| I'm not joking. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Not good for your kids. | ||
| I like that theory. | ||
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I like that. | |
| I think it's true. | ||
| I think children are trying to emulate and create an identity, and they're looking to people around them. | ||
| And parents put them in front of TVs or tablets where all of the interaction, communication is coming from anthropomorphized animals. | ||
| And then when they get older, furries aren't dressing like animals. | ||
| They're dressing like cartoon animals. | ||
| They identify as a cartoon animal. | ||
| And I think obvious people go, Tim, not everybody does that. | ||
| Of course, not everybody. | ||
| Some are affected by it. | ||
| Some aren't. | ||
| That's just it. | ||
| I think that's true. | ||
| None of that stuff is bad for kids. | ||
| Bad for kids. | ||
| All right, let's grab some more super chats. | ||
| Again, smash that like button. | ||
| What do we got? | ||
| Wyatt Kaldenberg says after JFK's death, the Dems got a huge sympathy vote. | ||
| The neocons falsely blamed the 1964 election on Barry Goldwater and the populist right and purged the right. | ||
| We're in the middle of another purge. | ||
| Well, okay. | ||
| It was a long time ago. | ||
| I wouldn't know. | ||
| Arsena says, Muslim Americans who backed Trump three times and rallied others. | ||
| This is normal politics. | ||
| People return when they need you. | ||
| Join any fight only if it aligns with what you believe and will make America better. | ||
| This is what Democrats are doing. | ||
| The reason why they're attacking white people is because they're basically like, hey, you know that group of white people? | ||
| How do I get Latinos, you know, Muslims, Asians, black people to come together? | ||
| What do I offer them? | ||
| White people, bad. | ||
| None of you like white people? | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| That's the offer. | ||
| That's why left has gone that route because they're trying to build a coalition of various minorities, and the only thing you can offer them as a lowest common denominator is another group to hate. | ||
| And then I guess the left argues that the right is arguing minorities as a whole or whatever. | ||
| All right, that one gamer says there's more drugs coming from Mexico and Colombia than Venezuela. | ||
| Mexico is asking for help from the U.S., Russia, et cetera, to fight cartels. | ||
| Thoughts on actually doing good instead of another Iraqi oil run. | ||
| Did you guys see that the Mexican president was attacking a senator who said that the intervention from Trump would be good? | ||
| And she said this is, what did she call it? | ||
| Treason or something? | ||
| That a senator was calling for a foreign intervention into their own country. | ||
| Yeah, not to mention she had like the auspice around her election was weird. | ||
| She got in. | ||
| There was like tons of political assassinations leading up to her win. | ||
| And yeah, the environment in Mexico is crying out, I think, for some sort of intervention, I would say. | ||
| Monroe Doctrine, that's our neighborhood. | ||
| If you've got... | ||
| What was that? | ||
| Monroe 2.0. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look, if you've got a narco government at your southern border that continues to funnel in people and drugs and stuff, it is a national security threat. | ||
| I think the thing that the super chatter was hinting on, though, is that the drug problem mostly isn't coming from Venezuela, although Venezuela may be sending some drugs, but the administration is having a disproportionate response to that. | ||
| I know one of their reasons for attacking all these drug boats have been the drug issue, allegedly, but many other people think that they're just trying to overthrow and apply pressure to the Maduro regime, which they consistently call illegitimate and say that he is illegitimate and narco-dictator, narco-terrorist. | ||
| It's also justified. | ||
| It's in our neighborhood. | ||
| They cause a lot of problems. | ||
| I mean, like, there's so many documentaries exposing these CCP camps that are in Venezuela, and they train these people to come up through. | ||
| Like, you shut that down. | ||
| That's going to alleviate a lot of these illegal immigration problems because, again, Venezuela aids a lot of these caravans that come in. | ||
| Granted, the Darien Gap's been like the crossings across the Darien Gap is wild, which is remarkable. | ||
| I totally agree that Venezuela requires some intervention, but I just think it's fascinating because the people who would usually bitch about neocons are still supportive of us being involved in Venezuela. | ||
| Which, again, by the way, I am fully supportive of. | ||
| There's nuance there, though, right? | ||
| It's about primacy in our hemisphere, right? | ||
| Between 2021 and 2023, more Americans died from opioids than World War I, Korea, and Vietnam. | ||
| Correct, but we're not getting Venezuela. | ||
| The heroin and fentanyl is mostly not coming from Venezuela. | ||
| It's coming from Colombia and Mexico. | ||
| So when it comes to Venezuela in particular, this isn't particularly about drugs. | ||
| Most of the drugs that are coming into this country via the southern border are not coming from Venezuela. | ||
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China. | |
| Yeah, China. | ||
| China to Colombia to Mexico. | ||
| But again, the point is they're hitting drug traffickers on boats in the ocean. | ||
| Like, that's what they're doing. | ||
| They're not going and ransacking the capital of Venezuela. | ||
| And Venezuela is an outpost. | ||
| Well, it's also one of the big reasons that we would invade Venezuela or are encouraging them to overthrow the Maduro regime is about oil. | ||
| It's totally about oil. | ||
| And the market's the global commodity of oil and trying to discourage Russian oil from exporting further if we could decrease the price of oil because they have the biggest reserves in the southern hemisphere. | ||
| The geopolitical incentive is way stronger than the resource incentive. | ||
| There's no question about that. | ||
| It's like if it was about oil, we would have invaded the people. | ||
| I just think people use neocons for a long time. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Well, I think we have been before. | ||
| We would have never left. | ||
| Obama would have, if it was just oil. | ||
| But let's, and things have, I don't think people realize that, you know, what, 12 years ago, Venezuela was U.S. visa on entry. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| The tensions were not this crazy. | ||
| You could just show up. | ||
| You didn't need a visa. | ||
| You could literally just walk to the board and be like, hi, and they'd be like, Bookman? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was getting crazy. | ||
| Yeah, and a neocon is someone like obsessed with Iran. | ||
| Your own neighborhoods. | ||
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| Okay. | ||
| We got Maureen. | ||
| Maureen 98 says, didn't the judge dictate that the DOJ could only release certain portions of the Epstein files? | ||
| How is that going to work with Congress pass with Congress passing and release everything? | ||
| A judge going to say that Trump can't release the files the Congress approved. | ||
| That's interesting because Congress should have the final say. | ||
| But a judge is supposed to provide a check. | ||
| So one theory is that Trump is saying, fine, release it because he knows the judges are going to be like, we won't let this come out. | ||
| And then Trump takes the heat off himself by being like, I said to release it and we all voted for it. | ||
| And then a judge blocked it. | ||
| Don't look at me. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We got Mike Londicos. | ||
| He says, I feel that TPUSA are upset with your comments because they did have something to do with Kirk's death. | ||
| It's called a guilty conscience. | ||
| I don't think that's the case. | ||
| You had something to do with it? | ||
| No, they're saying TPSA did. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| They're saying comments are saying that the reason Turning Point's mad at me is because they were involved. | ||
| I don't think that's true. | ||
| There was a video people keep sending me where it's a guy going over turning points, 990 forms. | ||
| And this is why, I'm sorry, I can't stand conspiracy videos. | ||
| So this guy goes, the filings for this year are missing. | ||
| They're not missing. | ||
| It's unavailable. | ||
| There's a difference. | ||
| Missing would imply that they should be there and they're not. | ||
| Or that it implies this is strange, missing. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| And unavailable could just mean that they filed in October. | ||
| It's been about one month. | ||
| They've not yet been posted in these networks. | ||
| There is an interesting point that these videos have been bringing up. | ||
| A bunch of podcasts are popping up about their 990s because the theory, I think this largely stems from Candace saying that Charlie wanted a Doge style audit a week before he was murdered. | ||
| And now their tax filings didn't come in in October or something. | ||
| For the first time, this is what one of the arguments is. | ||
| For the first time, every year they filed four 990 forms, nonprofit tax forms, May 15th. | ||
| This year they missed it. | ||
| So it was an October extension that's not yet in. | ||
| He goes, they're missing. | ||
| And I'm like, no, they're just not yet available. | ||
| We don't know what that means. | ||
| But that's why I can't stand. | ||
| And then he goes, Charlie said he wanted a Doge style audit. | ||
| But Tyler Boer said that they do an audit every year. | ||
| So he's saying they're not going to do it. | ||
| And they're defying Charlie's wishes. | ||
| And I'm like, no, no, he literally didn't say that. | ||
| He said they do the audit every year. | ||
| And so that's why I'm like, guys, there are some interesting questions about why these various turning point entities were funneling money through each other. | ||
| One of the things people brought up is that I don't know if this is true or not, but one of the arguments is that they created, there's turning point, turning point action, turning point endowment, and America's turning point. | ||
| And they were moving money between them. | ||
| Some of this is totally legit normal. | ||
| But there's one of these podcasts saying Charlie was getting a salary from each of them around a quarter million to $300,000, meaning that if you looked at the 990 filings for TPUSA, you'd see Charlie getting 300,000 because you didn't know these other entities existed. | ||
| But if you looked at him, you'd see Charlie was actually making over a million. | ||
| I don't know if that's true, and I don't know what the point is that they're bringing it up to insinuate about Charlie, but I certainly think he deserved to get paid from his own companies. | ||
| But as to the greater point, we didn't talk about it, and we'll talk a little bit about it in the uncensored portion of the show. | ||
| But the latest update, because I'm not trying to be big on drama, but we were not invited back to Amfest. | ||
| And so there was some, I guess, back and forth, drama, whatever you want to call it. | ||
| And then ultimately I decided I had to pull the trigger on what our plans were for the end of the year. | ||
| And so I was going to make a video explaining that we weren't invited. | ||
| They have since said, no, like, please, we want you to come. | ||
| And they're trying to get us to come. | ||
| There's a lot more details involved in this. | ||
| I think in all likelihood, we're not going to be there. | ||
| But I do want to be fair and just mention that many people have reached out to me saying that they're clearing space for us. | ||
| They're going to move speakers. | ||
| The long story short is there's a lot to the story. | ||
| I was told that I'd made hurtful comments, so they weren't going to have us back. | ||
| What are those comments where I don't know? | ||
| I mean, I have a general idea, but I don't think that makes sense that they were hurtful. | ||
| And then they booked people in the slot we were going to have, so we weren't coming. | ||
| And then only recently decided maybe we should move these speakers and reopen the slot. | ||
| But I'm like, this is weird. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Like, I can't do this. | ||
| And we're less than a month out. | ||
| There's not going to be hotels. | ||
| I can't spend 20 grand. | ||
| And late, like, we've tried really hard. | ||
| And now I think the response we're getting in terms of, no, no, we'll have you there is largely due to potential negativity around the event and why we weren't invited. | ||
| And I was asked by many people not to talk about it when the issue had come up that we weren't yet invited. | ||
| And I was told constantly, just wait, just wait, just wait until it's less than a month away. | ||
| And then I was explicitly told, well, you know, we weren't planning on having you back because you made hurtful comments. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, guys, just tell me that and I'm gone. | ||
| I think they didn't want me to do a video and be like, hey, guys, here's what's happening. | ||
| We're not going to be there. | ||
| I know that we promoted the event and told people to buy tickets, but we're not there. | ||
| I'll go into greater detail in the uncensored portion of the show. | ||
| So I'll say that there because I'm not trying to do a big drama thing. | ||
| The reason I did the video is because I thought it was important that as we had promoted the event, us not being there was important for anybody who expected to see us there. | ||
| And I recommend you guys go. | ||
| Don't let us stand in the way of whatever that is. | ||
| So let's go to some more. | ||
| The Coco Nino says, Tim, solution to housing and wealth gap. | ||
| All sales of homes to first-time homebuyers pay zero tax, no income, no capital gains. | ||
| Construction becomes profitable overnight. | ||
| So one of the issues is supply. | ||
| Where we are, it's crazy that they're building a mass amount of houses and we have no idea who's supposed to move into them. | ||
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| This is really weird. | ||
| I mean, Trump's curtailed immigration and the birth rate is down. | ||
| So why are they building houses? | ||
| I think the Fed is likely giving funds to construction companies to build houses to prop up the economy. | ||
| I think it's a big scheme to create fake jobs. | ||
| This is going to lend itself to inflation because they're injecting money into the system. | ||
| But I don't understand how they're building as many houses as they're building. | ||
| I guess I think the idea, bring down prices. | ||
| I think the idea is the Fed gives, creates money upon the issues of debt to a construction company, a loan, which they can use to hire people to build a house. | ||
| So those people have cash and then go to the grocery store. | ||
| And this creates an artificial lubrication in the economy. | ||
| And to be fair, it is true that we are constrained on supply for housing. | ||
| Yeah, I think a lot of the demand side that they're trying to solve, it really comes down to supply because we could change how the mortgage is done and whatnot. | ||
| But if the supply stays the same, then prices will not go down. | ||
| I mean, a lot of the supply side problem will be solved by mass deportations. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And then, like, there's incentives that have to come into play. | ||
| I mean, we should be thinking about what kind of housing do we want developers to build because they're being incentivized to build the wrong kinds of things. | ||
| I mean, everybody's thinking in high-rises, not homes, right? | ||
| And then, like, I think to the Super Chat point, like, I think that's an interesting idea. | ||
| I think there should be more creative solutions that were thrown at the wall and seeing what sticks right now on like for first-time homebuyers. | ||
| I mean, should they be at the front of the line in considerations as it pertains to state law for like purchasing homes? | ||
| Why are corporate entities getting? | ||
| I got an idea. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Instead of SNAP, how about you get a tax deduction commensurate with what you would have received for food benefits? | ||
| We don't give you money. | ||
| Just don't take taxes from you. | ||
| That means you have to work and you get to keep more of your money if you need it. | ||
| I suppose the problem is people at poverty are paying zero taxes anyway. | ||
| And I think a system like this is inherently problematic when only the hardest working people are paying the taxes for everybody else. | ||
| You have a guaranteed breakdown of the system where people eventually say there is a diminishing return on my labor. | ||
| And then high-merit people stop working and low-merit people keep demanding from the system and then it pops. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| And there you go. | ||
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All right. | |
| What do we got? | ||
| Eric Miller says, how do you know it's a cult? | ||
| Trump calls a reporter piggy. | ||
| The entire mainstream media squeals. | ||
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So true. | |
| I mean, it's a good point. | ||
| That's what I was saying. | ||
| They got the call. | ||
| The media was like, this is our story. | ||
| Everybody run with it. | ||
| To be fair, I did too. | ||
| I saw that story and it was going viral. | ||
| I'm like, I guess I'll make a video about it. | ||
| And I laughed and said, Trump is right. | ||
| And I said, is it presidential for Trump to call a reporter piggy? | ||
| I say yes. | ||
| It is now. | ||
| It's Trumpian, that's for sure. | ||
| Well, we need to be a bit more brutal of a people. | ||
| So true. | ||
| When Trump does something, it makes it presidential. | ||
| So the answer to the question is yes, it is. | ||
| McDonald's is aristocratic now. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| What are you going to do? | ||
| Don't apologize. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Millennial Mama says the process at Ellis Island was often two hours long and quite extensive. | ||
| Check out some of the questions they'd asked. | ||
| Dems would be aghast. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Questions? | ||
| Actually, let's do this. | ||
| Let's ask our friend Grak. | ||
| Grack's faster. | ||
| What were some of the questions asked at Ellis Island? | ||
| Let's find out. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| From 1892 to 1954, what is your name? | ||
| How old are you? | ||
| Male or female? | ||
| Uh-oh, already by question three. | ||
| The Democrats are losing it. | ||
| Single married widow, divorce, occupation. | ||
| Can you read or write? | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| What's your nationality? | ||
| What's your race? | ||
| Where were you born? | ||
| Last permanent residence. | ||
| Who paid for your passage? | ||
| What's your final destination? | ||
| Nearest relative. | ||
| How much money do you have? | ||
| Show it. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Have you ever been to the States before? | ||
| Are you going to join a friend or relative? | ||
| Are you a polygamist? | ||
| Are you an anarchist? | ||
| Have you been convicted of a crime? | ||
| Have you ever been to prison? | ||
| What is your physical and mental health condition? | ||
| Do you have any deformities? | ||
| Are you crippled or otherwise physically defective? | ||
| What's your height, complexion, color, hair, and eyes? | ||
| Identifying marks. | ||
| By whom were you invited? | ||
| Do you have a contract to work here arranged? | ||
| This is just me on a date. | ||
| You deformed? | ||
| What's like, what's your race? | ||
| Are you crippled? | ||
| Yeah, what's your race? | ||
| Are you Indian? | ||
| You have money? | ||
| Show me. | ||
| Show me. | ||
| I wonder how many. | ||
| May I meet you? | ||
| I wonder how many of those questions today Americans would say they would support being asked. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| Except for the Democrats being like, what does male and female even mean? | ||
| I mean, how do you ask someone that? | ||
| You have to assume their gender? | ||
| Republican may be fine with all of the questions and for Democrats to be like, oh, no, all those are racist. | ||
| All those are hurtful. | ||
| I thought they'd be more patriotic, frankly. | ||
| I'm relatively unimpressed. | ||
| I wonder if there was like, I thought there would be a loyalty pledge or something like that in there. | ||
| I'm disappointed that they didn't ask about communism. | ||
| They only asked. | ||
| Only anarchy. | ||
| Well, this is for entry, not citizenship, right? | ||
| And like, also, I don't know what conflicts were going on. | ||
| It's like, are you coming from X, Y, or Z? | ||
| 1880s, communism was even really like the Zeitgeist's Modge. | ||
| So, my friends, we are going to go to that uncensored portion of the show at rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL. | ||
| Smash the like button. | ||
| Share the show with everyone you know. | ||
| It's going to be a hoot. | ||
| We're going to talk about things that are not so family friendly, but always fun and funny. | ||
| And you, as members of the Timcast Discord, can call in to talk to us and our guests. | ||
| You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. | ||
| Sir, would you like to shout anything out? | ||
| Shout anything out? | ||
| I'll shout out my Twitter. | ||
| You guys can follow me and the controversies that everybody likes to talk about. | ||
|
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Ryan M. Newhouse, N-E-U-H-A-U-S. | |
| Right on. | ||
| Follow me on X and Instagram at Realtate Brown. | ||
| For the record for posterity, I don't think a lot should be deported. | ||
| I love a lot. | ||
| The greatest. | ||
| Plus one. | ||
| Seems like a pretty good deal. | ||
| You've convinced me, Titan. | ||
| Re-education is still on the table, but deportation, no. | ||
| If I get deported, are you bringing me back on the H-1B? | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Timothy. | ||
| He endorses H-1B visas. | ||
| You can be 0-1. | ||
| I think you're that guy. | ||
| But also, weekends, me and Connor Tomlinson, we have our show for the Culture War Across the Pond. | ||
| We had 30 minutes of English news, British news, rather, 30 minutes of American news, and then we do an interview on Sunday. | ||
| So be on the lookout this weekend. | ||
| We're going to have a great show for you, freshing up the presentation a little bit. | ||
| So I think you guys are going to enjoy. | ||
| So keep an eye on that. | ||
| And they're best friends. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Many are saying. | ||
| Thank you guys for tuning in. | ||
| My name is Alad Eliyahu. | ||
| I'm the White House correspondent here at Timcast. | ||
| You can find me at Aladd Eliyahu on all the social media platforms. | ||
| Phil. | ||
| I am Phil that remains on Twix. | ||
| The band is all that remains. | ||
| We just did a drop with Puck Hockey. | ||
| That's P-U-C-K-H-C-K-Y. | ||
| Got some really cool merch available, some hockey jerseys and all that kind of stuff. | ||
| You can check it out at puckhockey.com. | ||
| The band is all that remains. | ||
| You can check us out on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer. | ||
| Don't forget the left lien is for crime. | ||
| We will see you all at rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds. | ||
| Thanks for hanging out. | ||
| Restroom. | ||
| Yeah, that's for sure. | ||
| Routed. | ||
| And because it is, we're not seeing it on the forefront anymore. | ||
| So the right has become more infighty. | ||
| So basically, when we look outside, we don't see, you know, like a gigantic man in a wig anymore. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| These stories still do happen. | ||
| People are kind of tired of them, but we've largely won, and people agree, don't do it. | ||
| So then someone's like, if that's not a problem, then they go down the list. | ||
| And the next question is, Israel. | ||
| And now you're seeing the interventionist, anti-interventionist, you know, coming to blows. | ||
| But I said this before, I'll say it again. | ||
| I think that Charlie Kirk was a major component of why there was unity. | ||
| You know, I saw that story where Candace revealed a text message from Charlie and he had said something about Ben. | ||
| I don't know exactly what was said or whatever. | ||
| But when I saw that, I was like, Charlie was probably, it's like this. | ||
| You guys are fighting, and you stole his coffee. | ||
| Ryan stole Phil's coffee. | ||
| And so I go to Ryan, I'm like, whoa, what's going on? | ||
| And you're like, this motherfucker, Phil, dude, fucking stole my coffee, dude. | ||
| I'm not going to stand for it. | ||
| I'm going to go fucking punch him in the face. | ||
| And I'd be like, no, no, no, bro, bro, bro. | ||
| Don't hit him. | ||
| I get it, dude. | ||
| Fuck Phil. | ||
| He stole your coffee. | ||
| I can't believe you would do that. | ||
| Let me deal with this. | ||
| I'll get you a new coffee. | ||
| Then I go to Phil and be like, yo, what's going on with you and Ryan? | ||
| And he goes, bro, that's my coffee. | ||
| He just thought it was his. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck's his problem. | ||
| And now he's threatening me. | ||
| I'm losing. | ||
| I go, no, no, no, bro, bro. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Dude's an idiot. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's retarded. | ||
| Don't fight. | ||
| I feel you, bro. | ||
| No one's going to take your coffee. | ||
| I'll make sure you're good. | ||
| I'll take care of him. | ||
| Then Phil publishes a text message saying Tim called Ryan retarded. | ||
| And it's like the point was diplomacy to build rapport. | ||
| You tell someone, like, I get what you're saying. | ||
| I hear you about Ben. | ||
| Man, Ben can be like this. | ||
| And then it's like, see, Charlie hated Ben. | ||
| I was like, no, no. | ||
| He's trying to respect your perspective and tell you that he's there for you and he understands what you're saying. | ||
| He's not trying to go to war with Ben Shapiro. | ||
| I think it's fair to say, yes, he's admitting to a light grievance, but it's not because he hates Ben or wants to go to war with Ben. | ||
| It's because he wants there to be rapport. | ||
| And that turns into weaponization. | ||
| And, you know, which brings us to the bigger question of what's happening with Amfest and all of this stuff because I know people had questions and more questions will probably come up. | ||
| I'm friends with a bunch of people at Amfest. | ||
| We've always been. | ||
| And the simple version is we had been asking them, like, I'll say it again. | ||
| I said it earlier. | ||
| Two weeks before they murdered Charlie, I texted him 13 days. | ||
| And I said, you know, I wanted to get the details for IRL for Amfest this year. | ||
| We wanted to schedule things because we need to be able to book hotels. | ||
| And he says, let me text with team, get right back at you. | ||
| And I'm like, sounds good. | ||
| And then I didn't think it a big deal. | ||
| You know, I'd text Charlie again or whatever. | ||
| And then two weeks later, he was murdered. | ||
| So obviously our team is in contact with their team and we've done shows together. | ||
| And so, of course, we're all grieving together. | ||
| A couple weeks later, we just said, we're hearing a lot about Amfest. | ||
| We want to make sure we have the details because with all this chaos, we need to know what the plan is. | ||
| And we were told basically like, yeah, yeah, yeah, nothing's changed. | ||
| We're good. | ||
| We'll get back to you. | ||
| We went to two weeks after Charlie was murdered, two and a half weeks, I went to Phoenix and we did the show there. | ||
| And after we wrapped the first show, I again asked Andrew Colvett and there was another individual. | ||
| And I was like, hey, we're just trying to get the details. | ||
| You know, now that we're here, like, what's the schedule? | ||
| What's the plan for Amfest? | ||
| And I was told, same thing as always, nothing's changed. | ||
| And that is Tim Cast IRL time slot on stage on Friday. | ||
| That's what we've done for the past three years. | ||
| And Colvett mentioned it's rough. | ||
| We're trying to figure this out. | ||
| And I say, hey, look, man, whatever you guys need from us, we can do a shorter show if it's too heavy, too expensive, or maybe we'll do a show on the weekend so we can make sure. | ||
| I know it's a big show. | ||
| And they said, okay, cool. | ||
| We'll let you know. | ||
| We've asked like every week. | ||
| I sent texts. | ||
| We were getting ghosted. | ||
| Nobody was telling us. | ||
| And then the last conversation on the matter was Friday when I was speaking with Andrew Colvett and he told me that due to comments I had made that were hurtful, they weren't planning on having me back. | ||
| However, following that conversation, if I was still interested in going, he would try and make it happen. | ||
| It was a heavy lift, but I'll see if he can make it happen. | ||
| And I said, yes, absolutely, we want to go. | ||
| At the same time, there is another event that we were planning on going to in Vegas just before Amfest. | ||
| And so the schedule was going to be Vegas for first, the first Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, then drive to Phoenix four-hour drive and do Amfest. | ||
| And so that was the plan. | ||
| But the offer that we got from Vegas included free use of a studio. | ||
| They needed confirmation on dates and I needed ASAP. | ||
| So I, again, was texting with people at Turning Point, like, we really, really need to know what's going on because we're going to have what we have like 13 people who come to Phoenix for show production, scheduling, like just everything we do. | ||
| Like we bring our whole crew out. | ||
| And that means we're a month at and we're likely not going to get hotels. | ||
| And I don't know why we're not getting any details. | ||
| And then that was Friday. | ||
| This other organization, which I will have more announcements on once I confirm everything, was like, hey, we've got guests for you planned. | ||
| We need to let us know if you're confirmed. | ||
| And so on Monday, I was told, our booking person was told by the TPSA team, it's full and it's really hard to figure out how we can be involved at this point, but they're going to talk with the team and see if they can make it happen. | ||
| And so I spoke with a handful of people and I was like, okay, hold on. | ||
| We've been asking for months. | ||
| They know, and they told us the plan was the same. | ||
| This was our time slot. | ||
| They've now booked people for that time slot, told me that they weren't planning on having me back, but they keep telling us over and over again, we'll let you know, we'll let you know, we'll let you know. | ||
| I was like, guys, I don't think they're having us back. | ||
| I think they just don't want us to, like, they don't want there to be a big stink about us not coming. | ||
| So I talked with a handful of people in and outside of Turning Point. | ||
| Some people said, no, no, Tim, we have to have you. | ||
| This is an oversight and we'll correct it. | ||
| And I said, they've already filled the stage. | ||
| They've booked people where we normally would be doing the show. | ||
| So this just doesn't make sense anymore. | ||
| And I have to give an answer to this other organization in Vegas about what our plan's going to be with this show. | ||
| And there's prominent individuals that want to do a show. | ||
| And it's more normie-oriented, I would describe it. | ||
| I'll get a little bit more into it. | ||
| I will absolutely talk about what we're doing in Vegas, but I want to get through this first. | ||
| And so I talked with a handful of people. | ||
| There's, I'm trying not to be so derisive, but, you know, there's tumult in Turning Point. | ||
| Obviously, Charlie was doing a lot of the work. | ||
| And without him, things become a bit hectic. | ||
| And so having conversations with certain people, I said, I'm not doing this. | ||
| I'm not playing this game of you go, someone makes a phone call, then people argue with each other. | ||
| If the decision was we weren't going to be invited, and so the slot we normally had was filled up with other people, I have no problem whatsoever saying, it's been an honor of a lifetime. | ||
| Guys, have your party. | ||
| I wish you the best. | ||
| I hope everybody goes to Amfest and has a great time. | ||
| And if we weren't invited, I'm not going to, I'm a grown man. | ||
| I'm going to do my thing. | ||
| So I reached out to the Vegas organization said, looks like we're not on for Amfest. | ||
| So we're clear for the full week in Vegas. | ||
| We can use the studio. | ||
| They booked a prominent conservative and sports. | ||
| I say sports, but I'll let you. | ||
| I don't want to drag anybody, but we booked somebody who's prominent, well-known, and apparently is like a conservative living individual in the more normyist kind of space. | ||
| And I said, okay, this would be obviously on one of the days at Turning Point would be. | ||
| And there's an opportunity for some other prominent individuals, which is better in terms of a general audience than a political one. | ||
| And I think that's very good and important that we're doing events that bring us to a normie space so that we can get people involved, right? | ||
| So I decided, okay, we've confirmed this. | ||
| We're confirmed for Vegas. | ||
| We were not invited to Amfest. | ||
| I can't wait. | ||
| I need to make a statement that we will not be there. | ||
| And I'm not going to wait two weeks in advance. | ||
| A lot of people asked me not to say anything. | ||
| And I'm like, guys, it's insane that we told people to buy tickets and the expectation was we were going to be there. | ||
| And then I would just not say anything to anybody. | ||
| And then they'd show up and be like, I was really hoping to see Tim Cast IRL. | ||
| We threw out Trump golden shoes. | ||
| Was that last year or the year before? | ||
| Last year. | ||
| Last year, we threw out golden Trump sneakers autographed by everybody on the stage. | ||
| And like we had a blast and Charlie came on. | ||
| And the reason we were there was not because we were a big draw for tickets to people. | ||
| I think we did like 2,000 people in like a stadium that holds like 10 or was it 10,000? | ||
| But it was because the online audience was getting, from our side, was getting a view into Turning Point. | ||
| And so it was a win-win between the two of us. | ||
| Like Charlie was like, you'll be involved in our event and we're involved with your audience and we get a bigger reach that we don't normally get. | ||
| Well, this time around, I just, I think the vision of the organization is we don't need Tim Poole. | ||
| We don't need his audience. | ||
| We're going to do our thing and we're going to get speakers for this time slot. | ||
| They didn't like my views on things or whatever the issue was. | ||
| So I decided to make a video and just be, and I said everything I said. | ||
| You can watch it. | ||
| It's 40 minutes long. | ||
| And obviously, as soon as the video came out, my phone's blowing up with everyone saying, Tim, you're officially invited. | ||
| You have to come. | ||
| Everything's been cleared up. | ||
| And the only reason I made the video is because it had gotten to that point where we're a month away with no confirmation and an inability to book travel and guests. | ||
| And it's just like we're stressed about it. | ||
| So I said, look, I've already confirmed the studio in Vegas. | ||
| I was told explicitly that due to comments I said that were hurtful, where I said something to the effect of there are people who are concerned that Turning Point can't survive without Charlie. | ||
| And that was deemed offensive by some individuals in upper management. | ||
| They didn't invite me back and they filled the stage with other individuals. | ||
| And I also was told by other individuals at Turning Point that as this decision was being made, they were having conversations behind the scenes, like we shouldn't do this to Tim. | ||
| He's been a good friend. | ||
| And they were like, well, I don't, you know, we don't want to have him here. | ||
| And some people there vouched for me. | ||
| So I have no problem if it's the direction they're going. | ||
| I'm not salty about it. | ||
| We've always been a weird little island of things that we do. | ||
| And my goal, we've always been normie-esque. | ||
| We do music. | ||
| We do skateboarding. | ||
| I play poker. | ||
| Phil's a rock star. | ||
| We are not politico people. | ||
| We are not activists for PACs and organizations or members of Congress. | ||
| And so when we were offered an opportunity to be at a major Normie event of something that I deeply care about, I said, okay, we'll do the first three days there and then we'll go to Turning Point. | ||
| But when I found out Turning Point said, we don't want you here because of your comments, I said, I am not going to be the person that made a phone call to prominent Turning Point personalities, demanded they go to executive staff and bump people off the stage who are already booked because I deserve stage time. | ||
| That's never going to happen. | ||
| So after I made the video and published it, I get a few phone calls from friends. | ||
| They are very nice and from upper management saying it's a misunderstanding. | ||
| We were getting it sorted. | ||
| You didn't need to go public and say these things. | ||
| And friends being Tim, it's a redemption. | ||
| I'm sorry that it played out this way. | ||
| Now that we know about it, it's going to be rectified and the Timcast slot will be on stage. | ||
| And I said, guys, with all due respect, I know it's not the organization's fault these things happen. | ||
| I would assume it's principally mismanagement or maybe some people just don't like me, whatever it may be. | ||
| But making the video and saying I'm not coming obviously was going to result in some kind of concern of drama or backlash, which would then result in people because I've got a lot of followers being pressured to vacate their stage time confirmed to make room for me. | ||
| I won't do that. | ||
| If Turning Point decided to book people, that means Timcast was not a consideration and we don't need to be. | ||
| Nobody owes me anything. | ||
| We were not a consideration. | ||
| They didn't think about the time slot that we could do. | ||
| I wasn't offered alternatives, speaking positions. | ||
| I was not even offered an attendee ticket and others were. | ||
| If they don't want me there, the last thing I want is to make a phone call to a friend and say, make them bring me. | ||
| Now that there's some pressure because I have a big show and people are going to watch the video, I feel that certain individuals are like, okay, Tim, you can come now. | ||
| And I'm like, I don't do that. | ||
| Not with Turning Point. | ||
| And so the people who are there, who are my friends and that we've done shows with, by all means, you know, I mean, no negativity. | ||
| And I hope everybody still goes whether we're there or not. | ||
| If you bought tickets because we were going to be there, you'll enjoy the show and have a great time. | ||
| And I hope Turning Point succeeds in this regard. | ||
| But if we get to the point where we're less than a month away, they filled the stage already. | ||
| And only now, after some reconciliation, are they saying, maybe we'll work on this. | ||
| My thought process was as of Monday, they told our team, we're full, but we'll see. | ||
| You know, we're going to try and make it work. | ||
| And I'm like, what do you mean you're full? | ||
| Why didn't you tell us this a week ago, two weeks ago, a month ago? | ||
| Bro, I texted them two weeks ago and said, I just wanted to follow, make sure we got the details because we're being a little close. | ||
| And they ghosted me and didn't respond. | ||
| So I'm kind of offended that only after I make a video saying I'm not going to be there and there's tumult now, it's like, no, Tim, no, it's all a mistake. | ||
| It wasn't a mistake. | ||
| They filled the slot. | ||
| They filled the stage. | ||
| We weren't invited. | ||
| And it is what it is. | ||
| That being said, I'm actually bummed to say this because I do not want to be in Las Vegas during Amfest, but I'm also not going to utilize pressure and girth to make management at Turning Point who didn't want me there make me come. | ||
| We're friends with prominent personalities who work with Turning Point. | ||
| So obviously they're going to have my back and go to the management and say, what do you mean you're not having Tim? | ||
| Why is this happening? | ||
| I'm getting texts from other companies too. | ||
| People are like, aren't you like a top five speaker? | ||
| And I'm like, I'm not invited at all. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Like, that's the management's decision. | ||
| My friends are vouching for me. | ||
| Management is now pressured and I'm being asked to come. | ||
| And I said, I don't want to operate that way. | ||
| That being said, I was invited to a poker game for influencers, which wouldn't have interfered with anything we are doing. | ||
| The conversation I had with my wife was, I'm not, I like to play recreationally. | ||
| I'm not a big guy. | ||
| I don't like losing money. | ||
| And I usually, I consider my, I'm a winning player. | ||
| I'm not going to pretend to be the best poker player in the world or even better than these influencers. | ||
| But the concern we had is what we've always done is tried to do things that are outside the realm of politics, music, skateboarding, and the things that I know and poker. | ||
| So when I was offered this stream at the lodge in Austin, we said, okay, Tim's going to go and I'm going to go to Roseanne. | ||
| I'm going to go on Callan and Shob's podcast. | ||
| We're going to go on the lodge stream. | ||
| We're going to have Tim do a, these are like our PR team being like, Tim, you need to do things that are not political because the only time people get introduced to you is when you're angry about something and very, very opinionated. | ||
| You need to be in environments where you're doing things that are just silly, fun, and you're friends with everybody. | ||
| I said, okay, initially when I was offered the lodge poker game, I said no. | ||
| And then after having this conversation, I said, okay, maybe we should do it and take an opportunity that I can go on other people's shows, talk about other issues and do PR in a different way. | ||
| When the World Poker Tour reached out to us again about Vegas, I said, we're doing Amfest, so it's not going to be possible. | ||
| And they said we could do something on the 17th. | ||
| That's the date. | ||
| And I said, okay, actually, that works because we're only four hours away. | ||
| So that means right before Amfest, we're already on the West Coast. | ||
| It makes things a lot easier. | ||
| Then they asked me if we wanted to use how long we wanted to use the studio, a free studio from PokerGo, which I'm gushing. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| And that they have prominent personalities, conservatives, who are in the space and would love to work with us and do the show. | ||
| I said, no, because we're going to Amfest. | ||
| Then when I found out that they filled the slot, blocked us and told us no, I was left with limited time to book travel and make a decision. | ||
| I could go to the World Championships with the World Poker Tour. | ||
| These people have millions of followers. | ||
| I'm going to be on a stream with people who have two, three, four million followers. | ||
| It's going to be a big show and it's going to be outside of the world of politics, which is really great for brand building and bringing attention to the work that we believe in. | ||
| Not that I would rather be playing a poker game as opposed to being at the big event for Amfest, but it was before. | ||
| Considering what ended up happening, I said, am I going to wait and miss both opportunities? | ||
| Or am I going to just recognize that they booked the stage and didn't want me there? | ||
| And I would be shoehorning my weight at this point. | ||
| So I waited a day. | ||
| And then on Tuesday, or, you know, this morning, I said, I think I've made my decision. | ||
| I'm not going to wait around any longer. | ||
| It's 29 days. | ||
| It's not happening. | ||
| Texted the guys at PokerGo and said, we're in. | ||
| Book the studio for us. | ||
| I would appreciate it. | ||
| And then said, I'm going to announce that we're not going to be there. | ||
| Now they're saying, please come back. | ||
| But the issue is I've already said we've booked people. | ||
| And again, I'll stress, I know there are going to be people who are going to be like, oh, Tim's a degenerate going to play poker instead of going to Amfest. | ||
| They turned around and offered him a come anyway. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is what it is. | ||
| I don't like the idea of me saying, boot those people off the stage for me. | ||
| They booked them. | ||
| That's what they wanted to do. | ||
| And I don't think it's fair that because I have a big show and it's and it's worrisome for them that they would now shift everything around. | ||
| Not to mention, in reality, I was looking at hotels and flights and I'm like, guys, this is nuts. | ||
| They put us in a position where even after reinviting us, it's damn near impossible to do. | ||
| So I'm a little pissed off about that. | ||
| Not at, you know, Jack or Benny or any of these guys at Turning Point who are who have my back and I respect tremendously. | ||
| But the idea that now they're saying, no, no, Tim, we've changed our mind. | ||
| You can come. | ||
| And I'm like, oh, yeah, at the last minute when I can't book travel. | ||
| So that's the gist of it. | ||
| That's the story. | ||
| And it is what it is. | ||
| We are going to be hanging out with there are a handful of prominent conservatives in the poker space and in sports betting and influencers who are going to be there, who are fans. | ||
| And I think it's a good opportunity to do, I guess, just like outreach appearances on other shows that are outside the political space. | ||
| It wasn't my first choice, but I will do what I have, what I can and what I have to do. | ||
| And I'll have fun. | ||
| And I hope everybody goes to Turning Point has a great time and enjoys themselves. | ||
| And I think it's going to be a great show. | ||
| I think they're in a great time. | ||
| And I, you know, have fun. | ||
| So I don't know if we should just go to callers or if anybody wanted to comment or say anything. | ||
| Can I make the case for why you should be there in a respectful way? | ||
| I think people make mistakes. | ||
| I think, you know, Turning Point has undergone something that no organization would ever want to experience during a year and that, you know, an assassination was carried out on their leader. | ||
| And I think there was probably some commotion this year and insane demand for people to be at Amfest. | ||
| I'm sure that more than ever, they probably had a ton of people saying, Can I be on stage at Amfest? | ||
| Can I be on stage at Amfest? | ||
| Can I be on stage at Amfest? | ||
| And I'm sure things got mixed up. | ||
| I don't think Amfest would be the same without you, man. | ||
| I think you and your team need to be there. | ||
| I think it's better with people like you there. | ||
| I think it's a core part of it. | ||
| And I think, you know, I'm not privy to your private conversations with these guys, but I think Turning Point's an awesome group. | ||
| I think you guys are awesome. | ||
| And I think if you guys are able to, you know, work that out, I think your intentions are pure, man. | ||
| I think you've stated pretty clearly that you don't want to just like bump people off the stage and you're not trying to do what you did to like strong arm yourself into it. | ||
| If there's a, if there's a legitimate way for them to, you know, maybe shuffle some things around so you have a little bit of time. | ||
| Like, I think, I think the American people would love to have you there. | ||
| I think it's better for everyone. | ||
| What was it? | ||
| Second, second week of October was when we were in, we were in Phoenix. | ||
| Was that second or first? | ||
| It was the first week of October. | ||
| First week of October? | ||
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End of September and the first week of October because the shutdown hit and it was like it was after Phoenix I went to Austin. | |
| Is that what happened? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I told them all this. | ||
| I said, let us accommodate you guys however you need because I know that our show is bulky. | ||
| We can do shorter. | ||
| We could do a bridge. | ||
| We could do weekend. | ||
| We can do whatever you guys want. | ||
| My view is everything I said, but management's vision for what Turning Point is, we were not a consideration for. | ||
| Only after I go on my channel to 2 million people and be like, we're not going to be there. | ||
| Is there now a, oh no, oh crap, we need to have him there. | ||
| And my attitude is kind of like, I'm not here to rent on someone else's party or tell them what to do or to shoehorn my way in. | ||
| And it's just not going to happen. | ||
| To follow up on Ryan's point, you were at, what did you do at three years consecutively? | ||
| The past every three years we've been there, yeah. | ||
| I think if Charlie were around, he'd want you to go. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I think to honor him, you should consider. | ||
| The point that we're at in this is already at what you described and beyond. | ||
| That I had been texting, I had been calling, our team had been reaching out. | ||
| And my understanding is while this was happening, they had a conversation internally, do not invite Tim Pool. | ||
| So now we're at the point where effectively what happened was I didn't realize there was bad blood over what I had said. | ||
| I didn't realize it was so offensive to say that there are people who are concerned that Turning Point can't make it without Charlie. | ||
| I didn't know that was shockingly offensive because everybody's saying it. | ||
| You just took it personally. | ||
| So what you're describing as Charlie would want you there and you should consider it is a conversation we had two weeks ago and then followed up again a week later and discussed it. | ||
| And I sent text messages out and I got a message back from someone there saying, you know, Andrew says he's not sure if you're coming yet. | ||
| And I'm like, we're a month, we have five weeks out and you're telling me they're not sure if I can be there. | ||
| In reality, he had already scheduled the stage. | ||
| They had already scheduled the stage while telling me, hold off. | ||
| We're working on it. | ||
| You know, ironically for them, they're actually expediting the process of their demise by burning bridges with people like you and validating what you said originally for what for the heavens. | ||
| That's why they didn't want you here. | ||
| But I was saying that in defense of Turning Point. | ||
| Yeah, Turning Point's not going to die. | ||
| I don't think you believe that Turning Point's going to die. | ||
| I was speaking in defense of Turning Point because they were saying Colvett and Erica were too happy. | ||
| And the conspiracy theory was they're not grieving Charlie's death. | ||
| They're celebrating right now. | ||
| This is suspicious. | ||
| And the insinuation was that Charlie was murdered by insiders at Turning Point, to which my point was they're showing strength because they have to, but there really are concerns. | ||
| They can't do it without Charlie. | ||
| Why would they kill the guy? | ||
| And that was offensive. | ||
| The point is this. | ||
| I hear what you're saying. | ||
| Tremendous respect for Charlie. | ||
| The dude was going to be president. | ||
| We were already past the point where we had discussed, wouldn't Charlie want us to be there? | ||
| He certainly would, because even, you know, Andrew told us this. | ||
| Charlie, we have an audience that TPSA has a hard time reaching. | ||
| And I think Turning Point is an audience that we don't reach. | ||
| We're not the staunch conservative types. | ||
| We want to be a part of this. | ||
| But I want to stress again, while we were being told, just wait a little bit longer, they had already known internally we were not invited and had scheduled the stage. | ||
| The issue there is I feel like, and this is what I was talking with people internally here, like they're going to turn around and then invite us when it becomes incredibly strenuous to do and we're stressed. | ||
| We're stressed by it. | ||
| Put us in a position where now if we don't go, they're going to say, but of course we invited Tim Poole, knowing that logistically it's nightmarish to try and make happen. | ||
| So I will say one more time. | ||
| While I was asking them for the updated details and they were telling me, we'll get back to you, they knew they had already booked our spot and weren't inviting us. | ||
| Look, you might have to force Charlie's, you had to force Charlie's will on them. | ||
| I don't do that. | ||
| I've never done that. | ||
| And I'm not going to do that to anybody. | ||
| Timcast is a weird company of crackpot weirdo rogues who do weird shit. | ||
| So true. | ||
| It's so true. | ||
| We are not suit-wearing paladins marching down the street. | ||
| I don't go bang on the doors of anybody and demand they let me in. | ||
| When Joe Rogan didn't invite me, I said, I don't get mad at somebody for not doing me a favor. | ||
| I don't want to sound like an asshole, but I mean, you didn't go to the funeral for valid security concerns. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| And now, like, one of the biggest events that he would hold was Amfest. | ||
| You're not going to be participating in that. | ||
| I'm not saying in an opportunistic way, you should, you know, I think the mantle needs to be continued and you could contribute a lot to them. | ||
| And it would be, you know, to their benefit for you to be there and the movement for you to be there. | ||
| But yeah, no, if you are you firm in your decision? | ||
| So the only reason I'm talking about it is because we hit the crescendo. | ||
| Like we're off the cliff. | ||
| Like people were calling me and they're saying, no, no, Tim, we're going to work it out. | ||
| We're going to work it out. | ||
| And these conversations were happening. | ||
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And I was up against the wall. | |
| I've got it. | ||
| I've got, if they're going to keep telling me, just keep waiting, but they already booked the stage. | ||
| Am I going to miss the opportunity in Vegas, which is not preferable, by the way? | ||
| I'd rather have done the Amfest stage. | ||
| If I just say, wait, wait, wait, I'm going to give all of the time and all the benefit to Amfest when I already knew they filled the stage and we weren't invited. | ||
| I had to make a decision. | ||
| And I said, okay, I'm going to let the Vegas team know we need the studio for the full week, Monday through Friday. | ||
| And yes, bring these celebrity guests our way. | ||
| We will have them on our show. | ||
| And there's like a handful of guys. | ||
| I don't know who they are, but you guys may be familiar with Alexandra Botez. | ||
| She has 2 million subscribers. | ||
| I'm doing a stream with her. | ||
| And I think that's a great opportunity for us and the things we do to reach out to these normies, to be involved in other events. | ||
| And then afterwards, go to Amfest. | ||
| But again, I will stress, if I kept waiting, sooner or later they're going to tell me yes. | ||
| Then we do nothing. | ||
| And then our big end of the year show doesn't happen. | ||
| So I made a decision. | ||
| And I'm not going to go to them now and say, cancel the studio, even though, like, I just can't do this. | ||
| I don't bring it publicly because while it's all going on, because I'm like, I don't want there to be, like, I got to be honest, like, there's a lot of questions and concerns about what's going on in Turning Point USA. | ||
| There's a lot of videos about their financials, questions of the endowment and investments in the stock market and all these things. | ||
| And I've done nothing but defend Turning Point to try and offer up some stability. | ||
| You know, I got to be completely honest. | ||
| Loyalty is the most important thing, in my opinion. | ||
| And they have shown me, not all of Turning Point, but basically one individual or whoever was involved in the booking, disloyalty. | ||
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| The fact that they were dragging you along is the thing that to me is kind of, you know, unforgivable or the reason why you shouldn't, you know, shouldn't acquiesce and say, okay, I'll go to this. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I hear you. | ||
| And I'm obviously miffed by that. | ||
| But the point largely is we have to book hotels and travel even for Vegas. | ||
| And we did not because I was like, I can't because Amphest told me to wait. | ||
| And then Monday, they're like, well, we're full, but we're trying to make it work. | ||
| And I was like, what? | ||
| Okay, I get it. | ||
| Like I had a bunch of people say, Tim, just don't say anything publicly. | ||
| And I said, what do you mean? | ||
| We promoted the event like four or five times and told people about tickets. | ||
| We were told that we were going to be there. | ||
| There's going to be members of our audience being like, why aren't you here? | ||
| I'm going to let them know as soon as I can. | ||
| And I have to confirm our other studios. | ||
| So now that there's public pressure and it's turned into whatever this is, it's obvious this is going to happen. | ||
| And then the friends we have who work with Turning Point are like, I'm going to go vouch for you. | ||
| And I'm like, I know. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| When this was going on, I didn't go to a bunch of people and say, hey, go kick them in the butt and tell them we're coming. | ||
| I just said it is up to them. | ||
| What Turning Point is without Charlie needs to be what Turning Point is. | ||
| It is going to be what it is. | ||
| I'm not going to interfere. | ||
| I'm not going to change it. | ||
| I have nothing to do with it. | ||
| I don't want their money. | ||
| I don't want their clout. | ||
| I don't want their resources. | ||
| What they need from me, I will give. | ||
| What they do not want from me, then I will not provide. | ||
| I asked only one person who's a friend of ours that works at Turning Point because we weren't getting answers. | ||
| And they told me two weeks ago, we're not sure yet if you're coming. | ||
| And I said, I will wait. | ||
| And I could have booked Vegas and I could have got our staff ready to go and I could have saved a ton of money, but I said, we'll wait. | ||
| Then I found out on Friday, even though they told me to wait, they knew they were not invited and they had already booked the stage. | ||
| And I'm like, guys, let's go to callers. | ||
| All right, we got casual Libtard. | ||
| What say you, good sir? |
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