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Democrat FEDERALLY INDICTED For Obstructing ICE Agents In Chicago | Timcast IRL

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The DOJ has indicted several individuals who were obstructing ICE officers in Illinois, including a Democrat congressional candidate, Ket Abugazela.
		She is, I guess you'd call her far left or whatever you want to call it, and anti-ICE was seen on video engaged in, let's just call this raucous protest, where she got thrown to the ground.
		And for this, they're saying that she was intimidating, interfering, and interfering with.
		And we'll go through those videos and play them.
		We also have probably a much, much bigger story, but a bit more esoteric.
		Arctic Frost documents released exposing that basically Biden, his administration was, well, you already know they were corrupt.
		They were targeting hundreds of conservatives, subpoenaing bank records, phone records.
		It is insane things that are being uncovered, where the FBI is targeting members of Congress saying, well, they've got ideas that are bad for the FBI, as if that justifies the use of law enforcement force against them.
		Absolutely crazy.
		We'll talk about that.
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		You know, we got a couple of great guests coming at you tonight to talk about this and more.
		We've got the great Pat Dugan.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		Hey, thanks for having me.
		I'm Pat Dugan, Judge Pat Dugan, running for district attorney in the city of Philadelphia.
		I'm running against a Soros-backed anarchist who coddles criminals.
		I have a website, judgedugan4da.com.
		And I am, I'm calling myself a unicorn.
		I'm a registered Democrat.
		I am the Republican nominee.
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		I am running as a Philadelphian.
		I'm truly not worried about politics on either side.
		I'm only worried about the victims and the rule of law in Philadelphia.
		And the Soros-backed candidate, Krasner, is not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For a few years, we were in Woodbury or New Jersey.
		So we're just on the other side.
		And we would do business in Philly.
		And we had some run-ins with some far leftists.
		And we had to experience.
		So it's going to be great to hear your insights and what your plans are.
		So it's an honor to have you good, sir.
		We also have Cliff Maloney.
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brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Guys, what's going on?
		It's Brett.
		Normally, I am doing Pop Culture Crisis Monday through Friday at 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, but we got a lot to get into.
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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So if you see, as I, okay, anyway, let's go to the news.
		We got this from the AP: Democratic congressional candidate Kat Abugazela indicted over ICE protests outside Chicago.
		And for those of you that saw the thumbnail on this episode of Tim Cast IRL, that's a real photo that she posted of her, and she is running for office.
		And I'm sure there's going to be a bunch of thirsty young guys that are like, I don't care about politics.
		They're going to vote for it.
		Guys, she's not going to date you.
		It's just not going to happen.
		Anyway, here's a story.
		A Democratic congressional candidate in Illinois is being accused, has been accused of blocking a federal agent's vehicle during September protests outside an immigration enforcement building in suburban Chicago, according to court documents unsealed Wednesday.
		The felony indictment filed last week by a special grand jury charges Kat Abugazela and five others of conspiring to impede an officer.
		Quote, this is a political prosecution and a gross attempt at silencing dissent, a right protected under the First Amendment.
		Actually, if they're going to quote her, I'll just play the video straight from her.
		And this is her response.
kat abughazaleh ▲ ● ▼		My name is Kat Abugazale.
kat abughazaleh ▲ ● ▼		I'm running for Congress in the 9th District of Illinois, and the Department of Justice is charging six people, including myself, with federal crimes for exercising our First Amendment rights near ICE's Broadview Processing Center.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just got to pause because I don't let him just lie.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it's because you obstructed law enforcement, which you're not allowed to do, but continue.
kat abughazaleh ▲ ● ▼		This is a political prosecution.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's not.
kat abughazaleh ▲ ● ▼		And a gross attempt to silence dissent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No.
kat abughazaleh ▲ ● ▼		A right protected under the First Amendment.
unidentified		It's not.
kat abughazaleh ▲ ● ▼		This case is a major push by the Trump administration to criminalize protest and punish anyone who speaks out against them.
		That's why I'm going to fight these unjust charges, but I need your help to do it.
		As I and others have exercised our First Amendment rights, ICE has hit, dragged, thrown, shot with pepperballs, and tear gassed hundreds of protesters.
		Simply because we had the gall to say that masked men coming into our communities, abducting our neighbors, and terrorizing us cannot be our new normal.
		And because Chicago doesn't back down from bullies in masks who tear gas our neighborhoods, this administration has resorted to weaponizing the federal justice system to scare us into silence.
		But we're not going to be silent.
		The Trump administration wants you to be afraid of speaking out against it and its anti-democratic power grabs.
		And there are plenty of reasons to be afraid right now, but we have to overcome that fear.
		This case targets our rights to protest, speak freely, and associate with anyone who disagrees with the government.
		And while we have seen the unhinged and unlawful tactics this administration has used against the American public, it's important to remember they're doing this because they are scared.
		They are wrong.
		And they know they are on the wrong side of history.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Who is they, though?
unidentified		Yeah.
kat abughazaleh ▲ ● ▼		We cannot diminish ourselves in the face of these attacks.
kat abughazaleh ▲ ● ▼		That's why we have to unite and stand up for humanity.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because she is anti-Israel.
		She hangs a Kafiya in her room.
		And I'm going to tell you exactly why she's not going to win.
		First, I'll refute what she's saying.
		Let me play this video for you guys.
		Here's her being pushed back because she was blocking a vehicle.
unidentified		I'm back at the bravo.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So there are other videos of this, but I'm going to say this in reference to her.
		The reason why she can't win, there's two big reasons.
		Notice all the jump cuts in that video.
		And I mean this not derisively.
		If you want to run for office, you need to be able to talk and express yourself.
		You need wit.
		You got to go quick.
		You can't jump cut every five seconds.
		I got to say, as somebody who did nonprofit fundraising, making me the expert in the case, if you can't articulate your mission statement in 30 seconds, bing, bang, boom, you ain't going to get it.
		You ain't going to get it.
		But I got to add, the second reason is that she is an anti-Israel candidate running in the most Jewish district in the country.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Not even just that, but there was like very little in the way of actually showing performative emotion in what she was doing there.
		There was very little in the way of like, maybe it's just because we speak on camera every day.
		So it's part of the gig to understand how to, when you have a point you want to articulate to people, you have to be able to look at a camera.
		You have to be able to make people understand what you feel about a specific topic.
		And if it's something as personal to her as supposedly having her First Amendment rights violated, while, you know, of course, leaving out the very, very important part where she broke the law to do so, if she can't do that without getting through 30 seconds of time, then she's going to have a very hard time convincing voters who are not going to only see her in clips, but see her in person.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, young liberals are far left.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So she has that going for her as like the next generation of Democrat is going to be, you know, I don't want to be too one-dimensional and say communist, but communist.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I mean, no, I mean, I completely disagree.
		The reality is at the core of their worldview is communism.
		It is radical far leftism.
		Once you accept those premises, even if you don't want to take them to their furthest, most radical conclusion, you will slowly end up approaching that position over time.
		And that's effectively what's happened.
		They've just gotten closer to that end state.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Is this an issue that is something that's come up a lot in Philadelphia with immigration law and things like that?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		So the issues that I have with immigration is what Krasner's policies were in Philadelphia.
		Krasner's policies prior to President Trump and what's going on with ICE today was that if you were a person with bad papers and you committed a crime, you walk into a bank, you give the teller a note that says, I am robbing you.
		Give me all your effing money.
		Larry Krasner, when he found out that this individual actually was here illegally, Larry Krasner downgraded a bank robbery to a possession of an instrument of crime.
unidentified		What?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		No, this is what he's doing.
		What he was doing in Philly.
		We had another case where a guy who was illegal was dealing drugs, selling 80 bundles of heroin.
		Well, Larry Krasner became Jesus Christ.
		He made that case of 80 bundles of heroin.
		He downgraded it to possession of marijuana.
		He thinks he could change heroin to possession of marijuana, dealing heroin to possession of marijuana.
		These are the reasons why it's annoying to me that you got to treat everybody fairly under the law.
		You break the law, whether you're a citizen or a not citizen.
		The law should apply to you fairly.
		And Larry Krasner was not doing that.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, look, let me back up, Pat, here, because I think people always think it's hyperbole, right?
		People think that like this, this, hey, we'll be soft on crime is just a Republican talking point.
		It's not.
		And look, I come from libertarian world, you know, and I found this drift in libertarian world where people would think, well, we want to fix a criminal justice system, which I'm a big fan of doing that.
		But when somebody tries to rob a bank, it's a little bit of a different story, right?
		When somebody has that amount of drugs and what their intent is, it's not always the solution to try to prove that, hey, listen, we're not going to be like the Republicans that are tough on crime.
		We're not going to be backing the blue.
		So you become the opposite.
		It's that slow drift you talked about where it's like, all of a sudden, if you're not backing the blue, what's the opposite of that?
		Well, police are the enemy.
		And it's like this dichotomy where, no, there's probably a rational place you can be.
		The left does not believe in rational, sane thought right now.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, I love when the Democrats go, you know, we actually, we never really believed in defunding the police now that they've seen the polling data and they clearly did believe in it and they were clearly talking about it.
		They're like, well, we never believed in defunding the police.
		We just don't have anything good to say about the police ever under any circumstances.
		And we always think they're wrong about everything they do.
		Why is that so hard to understand?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		The Mott and Bailey arguments are like, well, no, we're talking about reform.
		We're not talking about getting rid of the police.
		We're talking about reforming the police.
		Of course, that's after you prove how stupid the initial statement was.
		The most nefarious part about statements like this is that, like, you're talking about with people who are in the country illegally and they're selling drugs and they're selling drugs or they're robbing banks.
		But when she's talking about it, she's talking about your friends and your neighbors who are being pulled out of their homes.
		So one of the most nefarious aspects of illegal immigration is that you allowed them to become your friends and neighbors.
		And for the average everyday citizen, it is horrific to see somebody who you've grown close to in a personal way pulled from their house and removed from the country.
		But that's not the point.
		The point is that they live amongst these people.
		And the prior administration did a very, very good job in helping to destroy a good part of the country by letting in people who see who allow this to happen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me pull this up.
		Yes, we mean literally abolish the police because reform won't happen.
		It's a New York Times op-ed.
		You know what's happening with the immigration stuff in the United States is it's the graphic novel I Am Legend.
		Have you guys ever read it?
		The movie.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, the original, it was actually a book before a graphic novel.
		It was a novella.
		It was a short story.
unidentified		Well, there you go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		The movie is trash.
		Don't watch it.
		It has nothing to do with the story.
		Simple version.
		I bring it up quite a bit, but for those that don't know, for these fine gentlemen, it's about a guy who hunts vampires.
		And the vampires are rapidly spreading.
		Vampire bite somebody, become a vampire.
		Eventually, everyone in the country is a vampire, and he's the last human, and they arrest him for killing people, and they lock him up, and he realizes that now that every single person is a vampire, he is sentenced to death for the murder of people.
		And he realizes when he dies, he will be the monster of legend that lurped around while the children slept and killed them in their beds.
		So the point is, you being the vampire hunter only matters when your civilization exists and you are fighting the legendary monster minority.
		If more and more illegal immigrants come into this country, as the point Brett was making, then you are going to have whole swaths of states being non-citizens.
		And when you then try to enforce your laws, they will say, you are the evil dictator come to destroy our homes and our lives.
		And if they take over and win this fight, these people, ICE agents, will be put in prison and be called Gestapo Nazis for breaking up families.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And there will be no land acknowledgments, by the way, if this country's taken from us.
		They're not going to be like, it was the noble Europeans who once live here.
		Like, no, none of that.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		And that is directly proven by these New York City mayoral polls that show that foreign-born New Yorkers versus American-born New Yorkers, it is like 100% the foreign-born are supporting Mom Dami and the American-born are supporting Cuomo or Slewa.
		I mean, it kind of proves the point, right?
		Like, once you come in, how do you push back?
		I mean, you're obviously talking about ICE, but you're right.
		Like at a certain point, what's the path back, right?
		What is the path?
		You know, once enough folks are here, it's tough to kind of reverse it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I suppose it's a difficult question to ask you, Judge Dugan, because you didn't, I don't think you've seen the videos of Kat.
		So in a light sense, I think the answer is relatively easy.
		I would ask you, do you think she should have been charged?
		Of course, the predicate there is, have I seen the video?
		Do I know what she's done?
		But if it's true that she was blocking vehicles from ICE trying to do their job and obstructing these officers, do you think she should have been charged?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		So I think anybody that interferes with official law enforcement, yes, they need to be detained and arrested after you do the investigation.
		And that goes from whether it's a sheriff in a small town, a police officer in a big city who's actually doing a car stop.
		You got to let the law enforcement do their job.
		Now, you'll have your right, but you need to step away so they can do their job.
		If you want to protest it, don't interfere with law enforcement officers.
		In fact, our district attorney, you know, there's this talk about the National Guard might come to Philadelphia.
		And that's Mr. Krasner is out there all the time saying it's Trump, it's Trump, it's Trump.
		Well, he actually told our citizens in Philadelphia to go harass the National Guard if they come to our city.
		Now, my problem with that is the National Guard is actually us.
		It's our citizens.
		In Philadelphia, it's the guy from Southwest.
		It's our neighbor.
		It's a part-time job.
		And what they're doing is they're giving an order and they salute the governor or the president and they do their job.
		They are not our enemy.
		We need to go ahead and fight whatever you don't agree with through the courts, through the governor, through the president.
		But those National Guards, men and women, are doing their duty.
		They're us.
		I was an Army Reservist.
		They're just doing their duty.
		Don't go up and harass them.
		And Krasner actually said, go harass these National Guard.
		Yet when a young man went up and tried to take some photos of Mr. Krasner with his phone, he literally pushed him away with his phone away.
		I mean, so it just is ludicrous that he has this double standard.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that the National Guard should be deployed into Philadelphia?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		I think there should be some cooperation.
		I don't think we need the National Guard right now.
		What we need is we need somebody to cooperate with the mayor of Philadelphia, Sherelle Parker, who is a Democrat who was elected saying, let's enforce the criminal code.
		She has a forward-thinking police commissioner by the name of Bethel.
		They're working together to try to solve the issues in our city.
		They don't have the third partner, and that's the district attorney of Philadelphia who refuses to hold violent criminals accountable.
		This is a fact.
		People that live in Philly know that.
		Philadelphia needs a district attorney to assist the mayor.
		Now, I will talk about the National Guard was in our city a couple of years ago.
		And what they did was they calmed down all the riots that we had a few years ago, the civil unrest, whatever people want to call it.
		But when they put those National Guardsmen on the streets in Kensington, in North Philadelphia, it calmed down.
		There were our neighbors that came to calm down.
		So it did work.
		We should not need them if the district attorney would do his job.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		See, but here's the crazy thing.
		What Pat is saying is what any Democrat would have said 25 years ago, right?
		Like, it's not like he's saying anything here that is irrational, that is far right.
		This was the Democrat.
		I mean, these used to be pretty bipartisan races.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Aren't you a registered Democrat?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		I am still a registered Democrat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What happened?
		No, but see, that's the point.
		It's like not even 25 years ago, 10 years ago, 15 years ago.
		What happened to the Democratic Party where you are now, you ended up as the Republican candidate, but you're a Democrat?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		There are still a lot of Democrats like me.
		The far left.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Democrat voters.
		Let me clarify this.
		Right.
		Because the leaders, this is what I find.
		The leaders are persuaded by the 20% of the radical activists, the radical donors.
		But I think you're right, because we found that in a lot of the voters we talked to, the voters, there's still quite a few of you.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		Yes, there are.
		And again, because of the closed primary system, we get that radical candidate like Larry Krasner backed by Soros because he was able to dump a ton of money in.
		And then those former prosecutors and those candidates who wanted to be smart, smart on crime.
		Let's do these restorative justice, like veterans court and whatnot, but be tough on violent criminals.
		They couldn't get traction because they didn't have the million dollars like Krasner got from George Soros.
		There's that, whatever the hell he's trying to do to our country, he's destroying places like Philip.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Let me dive in on that because I always feel like it's easy to say, not you, but when people talk about Soros and like what motivates him, right?
		Because he is giving to all of these people that are extremely soft on violent crime.
		We're not talking about, you know, parking tickets.
		What is his motivation?
		Like, I mean, I have answers and I think, you know, he's just trying to really take over.
		But is it purely evil why he's doing this?
		Like, what gets him going?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what his motivation is, but you can hold a city hostage by not enforcing laws on violent criminals because the citizens who obey the law are kind of at the behest of the police who won't.
		I mean, even if the police make the arrests, it doesn't matter if the prosecutor refuses to follow through and do his job and the citizens just want to go to work and get home every day safely.
		A lot of people are stuck because they may have enough to pay their mortgage, but they don't have enough to leave if they want to leave.
		You know, that's assuming that they even have a job that would allow them to do that, say they're working remote.
		But, you know, if you have a company in that city, if you're part of the income class that actually contributes to the, you know, to the, you know, to the wealth of the city, you're stuck there and you're held hostage by prosecutors who won't prosecute cases.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I can't.
		Oh, sorry.
		I don't know about Soros' life specifically.
		I haven't looked into him too much, but I do know about the destructive policies that he's helped promote in this country by putting soft on crime DAs in different locations and funding them.
		What I genuinely believe happens or genuinely believe happens is when someone participates in activities in their personal lives that disfigures them spiritually, either some form of sexual perversity or like ending the life of an unborn child through abortion, harming innocents in any way, and they don't repent, they don't turn to Christ, and they have to be set in their ways.
		The only option for them is to actually hate things that are good and beautiful and want to see them destroyed because it reminds them that there's something in the world besides the crime that infests their conscience every single day, the things that they've done wrong that they don't want to come to terms with.
		And so when they see an innocent person get hurt by a criminal, they sympathize with the criminal instead of the innocent person because they haven't come to terms with their own misdeeds.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or misery loves company.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's a big, and those are the same phenomena, really.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If they can justify the criminal acts or the evil, it makes them feel better about themselves.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It makes them feel better about their own conscience.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Man, I got to pull up this next clip for you.
		This is a huge story.
		This is a tweet from Colin Rugg.
		Actually, this was from yesterday, but we didn't talk about it until later, so I want to get it in this show tonight.
		Liberal podcaster Jennifer Welch suggests the Democratic establishment needs to get on board with wanting conservatives dead or else far leftists will come after you the same way we came after MAGA.
		I'm going to tell you my interpretation of what she said.
		Actually, I'm going to play it for you first so you can decide for yourself before I tell you what I think.
jennifer welch ▲ ● ▼		Finally, if you think the Zoran thing is happening just in New York and you think people are waking up only in New York City, you're mistaken.
		Look at this clip of a wine mom at the No Kings March.
		Play the clip.
		Charlie Kirk, ma'am.
		Yeah, him's horrible.
unidentified		Horrible.
jennifer welch ▲ ● ▼		Charlie Kirk is horrible?
unidentified		Yes.
		I'm glad he's not here.
		You're glad he's dead?
		Yes.
		Why would you say something like that, man?
		Because he was horrible on the campuses, the college campuses.
jennifer welch ▲ ● ▼		Horrible person.
unidentified		You know what?
		I do the exact same thing.
		Would you be glad if I would die?
		Maybe.
jennifer welch ▲ ● ▼		I'd have to think about it.
unidentified		You should be ashamed of yourself.
jennifer welch ▲ ● ▼		You should be ashamed of yourself.
unidentified		Your friend just said she'd be happy if I died.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's funny, isn't it?
jennifer welch ▲ ● ▼		So listen up, Democratic establishment.
jennifer welch ▲ ● ▼		You can either jump on board with this shit or we're coming after you in the same way that we come after MAGA.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I'm just going to, what exactly do you mean by that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so let's break this down.
		She showed a clip of someone saying, I'm glad Charlie Kirk is dead and maybe you should be murdered too.
		She then said, you better get on board with that or we will come after you the same way we came after MAGA.
		Well, they came after MAGA with a gun and put a bullet through Charlie Kirk's neck.
		So it sounds to me like she is making a veiled insinuation that they will kill Democrats unless Democrats get on board with them killing conservatives.
		Certainly that is the most extreme interpretation, but I'm done playing games.
		You could argue two things.
		If we want to give her the lightest interpretation, she said, we hope that conservatives are murdered and you better also hope they get murdered too.
		Otherwise, we will hope you get murdered.
		But I'm going to go ahead with, we're going to go after you the way we treat MAGA.
		They're calling for more conservatives to be murdered.
		Now, there's more to this.
jennifer welch ▲ ● ▼		Period.
		Stop taking APAC money.
		Go on an I'm sorry I took APAC money atonement tour if you want to stay in power.
unidentified		Stop on these big rallies.
jennifer welch ▲ ● ▼		Hakeem and Chuck should have been front and center introducing the next mayor of New York City.
		But no, they wouldn't show up because they're pussies.
		They're pussies that are beholden to the same corporations that Donald Trump, that helped Donald Trump get elected.
		And this is just an embarrassment.
		Kudos to Bernie, to AOC, to Zoron.
		And that woman out in somewhere middle America saying, fuck Charlie Kirk.
		He was a racist.
		He was a piece of shit.
		There are so many more of us than there are of them.
		And these Democrats that continue to play patty cake with corporations and lobbyists, nobody wants that.
		Nobody wants you.
		We want politicians to speak freely and look at what the benefit is.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		She wants something.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		She wants the mainstream Democrats to celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
		She wants more of it.
		She has a million subscribers on Instagram and more on YouTube, and they aren't taking this stuff down.
		And it's also- Real quick, sorry, just to throw it to Will Chamberlain.
		A society that tolerates calls for the murder of your political rivals is a society that has opened the door to civil war.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Also, like, there's just, I mean, listen, everyone gets a little angry sometimes, but like, carry yourself with some dignity.
		A woman of that age should not be throwing that kind of language out.
		It's very unbecoming.
		I'm serious.
		There's totally undignified.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think she should be criminally charged.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's disgusting what she said.
		And again, I'm a registered Democrat.
		And even if you believe what she believes about Charlie Kirk and his positions, damn it, this is America.
		And you're calling for political violence against the opposing party and also people in your own damn party that don't agree with you.
		I don't agree with her.
		This is disgusting that we're talking about this in America.
		This should not be tolerated.
		I don't care from the left, the right, the middle.
		Damn it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		What the hell are we doing?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think she should be criminally charged for incitement or anything else they can interpret.
		Because I will say this.
		If we do nothing, this woman makes millions of dollars, presumably.
		She's got a million subs.
		She gets hundreds of thousands of views on her videos.
		So I can only presume she's making more than a million bucks a year off this show, plus ad reads, probably a couple million.
		If nothing comes of this, you are telling her and every single young person, you are allowed to call for the murder of your political opponents and you will get rich from doing so.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And if you're wondering why they feel so emboldened to do so, it's because they feel so morally justified in their behavior because their worldview has reinforced that on them over and over again.
		They are right.
		They're, I guess, not liberal.
		Their leftist worldview has told them, you are right.
		What they are saying is evil.
		Evil deserves to be vanquished.
		They believe that they have the right to call you evil, have you murdered, and they believe that that is justified.
		It's one of the most insane things in the world because they don't see anything wrong with it.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		And this is the Civil War.
		You asked, you know, how do we get to a civil war?
		The civil war within the Democrat Party, right?
		Within any party, when it's somebody calling for violence, you would hope the adults in the room would stand up and say, hey, that's not the path we're going to go.
		Look at the women in that video.
		These are your typical suburban soccer moms, okay?
		These aren't homeless people on the street throwing out these crazy things.
		And so I don't want to be a doomsdayer, but I think that that side's going to win.
		I think the Democrat Party, the ones calling for violence, are going to win.
		I think that's going to become the mainstream Democrats.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we learned in 2020 when Trump refused to send in the National Guard to stop the riots, the worst riots we'd seen in 50 years, the presumption was they're going to reap what they have sown and learn a lesson and then come voting for Trump.
		Instead, the lesson I believe they learned was Trump is president and he won't save us.
		So they vote against him.
		Now, Trump is trying to bring the National Guard, send in law enforcement to deal with these crimes and these riots, and he's being obstructed.
		I believe that if you do not exercise the power you have to put a stop to this, you will lose.
		So what I'm saying is, if the Trump DOJ does not take action against people who are saying things like this, now, by all means, you know, we had on Dave Ehrenberg the other day, he's a lawyer, and he's a Democrat.
		And he said, you know, free speech, you know, you get a lot of leeway in what you're allowed to say.
		My response is, you've got two choices.
		You can let her and the others like her call for the murder of conservatives, celebrate their deaths and assassinations while threatening Democrats to get on board as well.
		You can let her do it.
		Or you can suspend her from these platforms, take down the podcast and say, we do not tolerate this degree of rhetoric.
		If she is allowed to keep speaking, I hope you are all prepared for what history predicts comes next.
		Because we referred to this already in a different story as Radio Rwanda.
		When the left start going out every day on their shows, screaming and banging on the table that conservatives must be murdered, don't be surprised if you wake up one day to hear that a bunch of mass shootings happened.
		Leftist terrorism is already the dominant political ideology behind terror.
		The murder charge.
		According to the mainstream media.
		Yep.
		So here's my prediction.
		The Trump admin will do nothing over stuff like this.
		People will say it's free speech.
		More and more liberals will start adopting this rhetoric because it gets them views.
		You will get Democratic politicians who will start adopting this rhetoric.
		And then I don't know what happens in four years when you have when you have political.
		So in 2018, I warned we were headed in this direction where we were going to be.
		And I said, what happens when this culture war, these street battles make their way to the highest levels of government?
		Because people grow up and they run for office.
		And I was told over and over again it would never happen.
		Well, it's happened.
		And now we had over the past several years under the Biden administration, which we'll get into the story in a second, Arctic Frost targeting conservatives.
		We had the arrests of Donald Trump and his lawyers, the unprecedented fake charges brought against Trump to steal his property, imprison him, and falsely accuse him of rape.
		It is at the highest levels of governance now.
		So when I tell you, middle-aged women calling for the murder of conservatives will bring you in four to eight years, 35-year-olds going out with guns and shooting conservatives.
		You can tell me I'm crazy.
		You can tell me I'm wrong.
		And I will just say two names.
		Was it Aaron Danielson?
		Am I getting that name wrong?
		Charlie Kirk, and I think it was Aaron Danielson.
		Let me make sure I get that name right.
		I said, I'm going to say two names.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, but this is, I mean, it's a very predictable thing, even without this kind of rhetoric.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Aaron Danielson was a Trump supporter walking down the street in Portland when a far leftist with a communist fist on his neck screamed, we got one right here, pulled out his gun and put two in his chest.
		So when I say this stuff will happen, it is not a prediction.
		It's a description of what already happened and will get worse because no one is willing to stop these people.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		There has never been an instance in history where the radical left came to power and didn't do things like this.
		Their goal has always been to murder innocent people and in particular to murder Christians.
		And the only time they haven't done that is when they have been sufficiently marginalized by a strong enough right-wing movement to prevent them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So all that needs to happen right now is this woman's show should be banned.
		Spotify should take it off the air.
		Instagram should take down her account and they should say, we do not tolerate this level of threats of violence.
		They're not going to do it, however.
		It's not going to happen.
unidentified		No.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Well, and the rationale should be, this isn't that she's wishy-washy.
		She is literally saying that we should murder these people.
		And the dog whistling, you know, I'm a door-knocking guy, right?
		I'm not an influencer here like Mr. Tim Poole.
		But it's so funny how the dog whistling can play out.
		2018, I believe, the Antifa handbook came out, Mark Bray's book.
		And he names me because I wrote an op-ed in Time magazine about free speech.
		And at the time, I'm like, well, nothing will come of this.
		You know, who cares?
		You know, it's Antifa just doing what they do.
		But a lot of people are like, no, this is dog whistling to get people to take action to do things.
		Well, fast forward to a month ago, we do a rally in Wildwood, and this was for Jack Chitterelli.
		Benny Johnson was supposed to be there.
		Jack Pesobic, Scott Pressler, myself, a bunch of other great patriots.
		We all had to get security because there were credible threats coming from, because we're listed in that book and some radical lunatic sees this.
		So now me as an activist, a grassroots guy, I've got to have a bodyguard with me.
		That to me was like the moment of realizing, hey, this stuff is real.
		And we can choose to ignore it and just think, hey, it's never going to happen to me.
		But after Charlie, it's like, listen, I'm not Charlie.
		None of us are Charlie Kirk.
		But it's a lot closer to home than people think it is.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I had a friend who had to quit a job.
		He was in charge of a bakery.
		He had to quit a job because the people that he worked with there, he found out they were celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk.
		Now, these were, I would assume, younger people, and when you think of activists of such a radical nature, you do think of younger people who have been influenced, but that's not what you were seeing in this video.
		That's your...
		That's your grandma who watches Jimmy Kimmel.
		That's your aunt who watches Jimmy Kimmel.
		All of it has been primed.
		But the way I've always phrased it is like there was this picture.
		I think I mentioned this on the show like a week ago.
		Like they posted a picture of Barack Obama and Mitt Romney after one of the debates.
		And they said, this was the last time politics felt like it had any sense of decorum.
		And somebody pointed out, look, far leftists were calling him a Nazi, calling Mitt Romney a Nazi.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And he was calling him a Nazi.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		But that's insane.
		So what's happened is that before that, in the Bush era, you see the pictures of the ones calling Bush a Nazi, and they were the far left.
		But now it's not that anymore.
		It's the mainstream Democrat politicians.
		And the average everyday citizen is taking cues from everyday politicians.
		They're not getting it from the people talking about the Antifa handbook or rules for radicals.
		They're getting it from the mainstream press.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I got to be honest, that reaction to Charlie, the reaction that we all saw online, Tim, you're probably going to say, no, you know, like we should have expected it.
		I did not expect it.
		I mean, I did not expect to see the cheering, to see the teachers, the normal folks, the people that are, you know, literally making good salaries think it was okay to publicly state how happy they were that somebody got shot.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		This is not me trying to say I told you so.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I 100% expected it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Conservative.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I 100% expected it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That Caitlin Bennett video where she's asking, she's shocked this lady.
		He's like, I hope maybe you should be murdered as well.
		And this Jennifer Welch saying, get on board with what they're espousing.
		I don't think conservatives realize what time it is.
		And I want to give a shout out to Michael Knowles.
		I'm a huge fan of Michael Knowles, by the way.
		He's got some of the best videos.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		He leaves me speechless.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He does.
		He does.
		And Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh are the best guys over at the Daily Wire.
		But Michael, I'm going to give a little critique to.
		Not that he did anything wrong, but he testified before Congress about political violence.
		And he was very polite, noble, and honorable.
		And it's what you'd expect of a good Catholic man.
		But in these times, what ended up happening was it was, I think Senator Welch says, how many of you are okay with the pardons of the J Sixers?
		And they all raise their hand.
		And then he says, that includes the men who beat Officer, I think Hodges was his name.
		And then he pauses for a second and he goes, yep, that includes him.
		And then Michael Knowles politely says, is that an invitation to speak?
		And he goes, no, and he goes, understood.
		And that's it.
		Welch then takes the clip, cuts out Michael Knowles, and says, silence.
		He says, and I pointed out that they pardoned a man who beat a cop, silence.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		He said he was speechless.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Controlling words, controlling thoughts.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, here's my point.
		Because what I see with this, and I don't mean to be in any way disrespectful of Michael Knowles, because I'm a big fan.
		I love his videos, is that he's playing this political game as though he expects men of honor to discuss these issues in good faith, where this senator literally just pulled it out of context.
		The whole point was to lie about the views and the ideas of Michael Knowles, which is why you cannot play this game of honor and nobility with people who have no intention of being honorable nor noble.
		All I'm saying is, in that context, the moment he said, and the people included, you know, the officers, you immediately jump in and start going off and saying, absolutely not.
		You are twisting words.
		But my point with this is, again, not to disrespect Michael, it's just a sign to me that conservatives still believe there is this, they think we're actually going through a standard legal proceeding with Democrats and liberals.
		Meanwhile, they're going on their shows to millions of people and saying, murder conservatives.
		And conservatives are coming out and being like, we need to lower the temperature in this country and bring people back together.
		And I'm like, they're saying kill you over there.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And then their side will say the same thing to you when they're the ones who are talking about violence.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		After what happened with Charlie Kirk, then the Democrats are like, hey, hey, hey, hey, we need to tone down the rhetoric, even though they know that the people on their side aren't going to atone to that because people on the right were mad about it and were calling it out.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		You cannot persuade the devil.
		I mean, if these folks are brainwashed, right, we think we can have conversations.
		A lot of those reactions to Charlie, I mean, I have a cousin, a distant cousin who cheered when Charlie was killed.
		Now, this is a guy I knew.
		This is a guy who got assassinated on live television.
		Everybody saw the video.
		If you haven't, some point you will.
		That's how these things work.
		I hate to say that.
		And he knew that I was close with him.
		And for him to post, just shut up.
		But I'm almost glad that he posted it because now I know.
		That's right.
		Right.
		I know what's deep in his heart.
		And I know there is no, there's no coming back from that.
		And so my advice to a lot of people is don't waste your time, right?
		Don't get into these battles.
		Don't let those folks have that power over you because you cannot persuade the devil.
		If they're gone, if they're brainwashed, there's no way to pull them back.
		And we shouldn't spend any of our energy trying to get evil people to understand when they're never, ever going to come back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, this might be much more difficult for you to say, Judge Dugan, but my view of these DAs, of these Soros DAs, it's not that they're ignorant of what they're doing in releasing violent criminals onto the streets.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's that they're doing it intentionally to wreak havoc on our communities, to destabilize our systems of governance so that they can then swoop in and fundamentally restructure them to a far left ideology.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		Well, I can tell you that Larry Krasner is doing it on purpose, and I'm a witness to that.
		I was a judge for 17 years.
		In the last eight years, Larry Krasner's been the district attorney.
		And we went from having a defense attorney in a courtroom and a prosecutor.
		They both zealously represented their side.
		After Larry Krasner became the DA, we had still had a defense attorney, and then we had a prosecutor who was far left off the damn table.
		It's amazing.
		Larry Krasner does not train his DAs to be prosecutors.
		How do I know that?
		I witnessed it every day in court.
		More than 70% of the cases that were in front of me would be withdrawn because Krasner's office were not ready to proceed forward.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's on purpose.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		It is on purpose.
		When a DA would leave the office, some of them would actually write a letter to the editor and say, it's bizarre the training that Krasner's doing.
		It's a kumbaya sit around, almost like a religious experience, but nothing to do with how to prosecute.
		They're sent into the courtroom without a mentor or a supervisor, and they have not a clue.
		And the defendant walks out and the victims are left hanging out to dry, including victims who wind up being murdered later because of his policies.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think Krasner and many of these other Soros DAs, they are doing this so that the criminals walk.
		It's not so much about they're not training them.
		It's that they're intentionally saying, we want you to lose.
		We want the criminals on the street.
		We see it not just in, You're making a great point because we've not discussed what I would describe as the faux prosecutions.
		Typically, what we see from these DAs is they just drop the charges and let them go.
		But it's really interesting to hear that you're saying in the courtroom, they'd be like, oops, we scripped the prosecution.
		Guess you got to let them go now.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		So obviously the arrests are down tremendously in the city of Philadelphia since Larry Krasner became the district attorney because he refuses to charge somebody who's arrested.
		So those cases never make it.
		The cases I'm talking about are the ones that actually make it, which is a minority of the actual crimes being committed in the city of Philadelphia.
		We recently had a murderer of a young girl by the name of Keda Scott.
		Kata Scott is a beautiful young woman.
		She was 23 years old, a cheerleader, Penn State, just beautiful.
		Well, she was assaulted and kidnapped and wound up being murdered by this guy named Keon King.
		The issue with Keon King is Keon King was actually in our courts months prior for another assault and kidnapping of a different woman.
		So that case, the victim didn't show up.
		Despite the Commonwealth, the district attorney's office having video evidence of Keon King trying to break into this woman's house, the prosecution withdrew the charges.
		Instead of putting the video evidence up, like any new prosecutor knows how to do, they did not put it up on purpose.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		What would be different under a Pat Dugan district attorney?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		DAs who know how to put up video evidence, which is Prosecution 101, they're going to have to prosecute.
		So what makes this case even worse is so Keon King, he's in front of a judge.
		The prosecution, Keon King has another case.
		We're talking about a third case.
		There's a new arrest warrant while he's standing in front of the court.
		The district attorney's office, Larry Krasner's office, does not tell the sheriff, doesn't tell the judge, doesn't tell the police.
		So Keon King could have been taken into custody.
		Instead, he walks out of the court, and then what does he do?
		He goes and he grabs this Keda Scott, kidnaps her.
		The city can't find her, and we find her body.
unidentified		Wow.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		So now he's charged with murder.
		That's a whole different thing.
		But Larry Krasner is a co-conspirator in the death of Keda Scott because of his policies.
		And I get so frustrated by this because everybody says, oh, Cada Scott's case fell through the cracks.
		No, it didn't.
		A previous family member who had their mother murdered in similar circumstances said they said the same thing about this Gladys Coriani.
		And that case fell through the cracks.
		That young man testified at the impeachment of Larry Krasner and said it wasn't falling through the cracks.
		It was a trapdoor that was constructed by Larry Krasner on purpose.
		And that's what I've seen.
		That's why I quit being a judge.
		I resigned to run against this guy because it's so frustrating what he's doing to our problems.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I lived in New York for a while and like in the city proper.
		And I don't really care for it.
		You know, I don't care.
		I don't have great things to say about New York.
		It smells like sour milk.
		So when all this bad stuff happens, I'm like, it's bad.
		It shouldn't happen.
		But New York.
		But for Philly, it breaks my heart because Philly's so amazing.
		And it's funny, I can say this.
		And we just lived in the suburbs, you know what I'm saying, the side of the river, but we'd go in for cheese steaks.
		And I'm not from Philly.
		I'm from Chicago, but we would get our cheesesteaks.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		You remember your favorite place?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
		We went to, you have to tell me because I was there for like, I think it might have been like two or three years.
		And so I don't know the names, but you know that marketplace downtown where they got all the Redding?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		Reddit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that what it is?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there you go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We go there all the time because you get to try everything and we go shopping in there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then you get cheese steaks there.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Uncle Gus's is probably where you got it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's probably what it was.
		I don't know for sure.
		All I know is people would show me where to go, and it was just awesome.
		And I mean it because I lived in New York and I can't tell you very much about, you know, the waffles and dingus in New York, whatever.
		It's okay.
		But Philly, man, we loved it.
		We had so much fun there.
		We did a big show at, I don't know if it was Sugar House at the time.
		Is it Rivers now or was it the casino?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		Rivers is on the Delaware.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		That used to be Sugar House.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It used to be Sugar House.
		And so what happened was we were doing a live show called Ending Violence, Racism, and Authoritarianism.
		That was the show we were doing.
		It was a very libertarian thing.
		And this was in Pittman, New Jersey at a theater.
		Far leftists, two weeks from the show, threatened to burn the theater down.
		And so the venue canceled on us.
		So we reached out to a venue in Philly, and apparently the staff there were like the venue was like, great.
		But then the staff were leftists and threatened to like walk out.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we went to Sugar House instead and did the show there and they accommodated us and it went well.
		We did have to limit, it cut the seats down by from 1,000 to 500, which sucked.
		But my point is just, I got great memories from our time when we were in South Jersey.
		I know we weren't Philly guys, but that's where we would go.
		We were 15 minutes from the city.
		So we'd go in all the time.
		Seeing all the stuff that's been going on with the crime with Krasner is just, it's so brutal.
		Because for whatever it is, I know there's going to be New York people who are like, don't rag on New York.
		Well, you know, New York's what it is.
		But to see, you know what?
		I'll be fair.
		I'll be fair to New York and to Philly, to see our great American cities be turned into this by this psychotic ideology, whatever it is they're trying to do, it breaks my heart.
		We got to turn it around whenever we can.
		Now, you know, back to the initial video that we're talking about in the first place, it's scary when you've got prominent political personalities that hold this view that want to see us dead.
		So I'm scared as to what this means as we approach this from a legal standpoint of we got to prosecute the criminals.
		We got to be fair.
		We got to be just.
		We got to follow the law.
		And they're saying we don't.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, and this is so important because the reason people view the world in this way is because of the stories they have consumed.
		How often have you seen it in the media?
		A show where you're supposed to feel bad for the criminal.
		Like criminals are almost always portrayed in some kind of sympathetic light.
		Police are usually portrayed in a negative light.
		You always hear about the protagonist who's a criminal because they're down on their luck.
		This is part of why we're trying to make media and stories because you have to create stories that push back against that.
		We're like, the criminal actually is bad.
		They're not just doing it because they're hungry or trying to feed their family, but because human beings are defective on some level.
		We do have malice in our heart.
		We do want to hurt others.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It is funny that you mentioned, we were talking earlier about when things really turned when it comes to like ICE and immigration.
		There are TV shows from 15 years ago that take a very normal stance on immigration or ICE or immigration customs enforcement, all that stuff.
		It really was almost like bottlenecked into just the last couple of years where suddenly something that was very normal for Americans to believe, which is that you have to come here legally.
		That's the path forward, is now suddenly considered a far-right idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, what was the thing where you wrapped the pizza in the cheesesteak?
		You know what I'm talking about.
		Come on.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		A stromboli?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		There's a thing in Philly.
		That's what we did.
		They make a cheesesteak and they get a big slice of pizza and they roll it up.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Philly taco.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		My wife and my doctor won't let me eat that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Spent like two summers in Philadelphia and I was just more amazed that I could order a slice of pizza to be delivered back in like 2000.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Listen, the food scene in Philly and everything.
		I don't think people give it enough credit.
		It's very, very underrated.
		My new place that just opened up, Skinny Joey's, Joey Merlino, they just opened up.
		They actually just bought my, I was from Delco, the suburbs, and they bought the cheesesteak place that I worked at as a kid.
		He just bought it.
		So they're opening up.
		You know, they're starting to expand out.
		He's got a great social media game, but the food's good.
		The Pats and Geno's thing, I'll say this so you don't have to.
		You got to appease more people.
		You know, that's a tourist, that's a tourist drive, right?
		Pats and Geno is like, okay, if you're not a local, you go, you do the experience.
		But Angelo's, you know, Skinny Joey's.
		I mean, there's tons of great local spots that are out there.
		There's Taco, baby.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm talking about.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Even got the grilled onions in there.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Look at that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Those are great for social media because you get the videos of people making those.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		We met John's, John's roast pork, gym steaks.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		There's some great, there's dozens of great stuff.
unidentified		Why do we always talk about food on the show?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Worst.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I'm hungry, bro.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can't do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got to figure out how to get some of these up here.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		We'll work on it.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Next time I'm here, I'll bring one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like three hours to Philly from here, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Something like that.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, about right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Three and a half.
		They'll be cold by the time they get there, but we get back here.
		But I think we got to have someone drive up, leave super early, order like 20 of them, and bring them back, and we have them for lunch.
		Philly tacos.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's like they'd be cold by then, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm saying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He got to heat them up, but you know, we suffer for the delicious chicken.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		We suffer the cheesesteak.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		We suffer for that cheesecake.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		We'll get you one of those.
		We'll get you some water ice.
		I think I'm saying the skinny Joey's.
		We'll bring you one of those.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to the story.
unidentified		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is big news from Fox News.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Republicans claim Biden admins enemies list unearthed from Arctic Frost investigation.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Did he write in Crayon?
		Like Biden made this list?
		Just like four times.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Republicans claim.
		What do you mean?
		We have the list.
		There's no claim.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's the problem.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's the tactic they use, right, is both sides have become so polarized and nobody trusts anything anybody else says that they're just going to automatically assume it's just some type of oppo-boola, you know.
unidentified		My enemies, man, number one, the eaps are bunny, never left me any eggs this year.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		His ice cream was melted.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		My ice cream melted.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		He wrote it with the auto pen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He ordered his food with auto pen and it didn't come.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sean Davis says breaking new Arctic Frost whistleblower documents show that the corrupt Biden-FBI subpoenaed bank records, donor lists, and emails of nearly every major conservative organization and leadership in the country, including the Trump campaign, the RNC, Conservative Partnership Institute, Save America PAC, America First Policy Institute, and even MyPillow.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Not MyPillow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's clear that they were going after privy information to try and cheat an election.
		That's the only way, the only thing I can see from this.
		It makes no sense.
		I mean, this is crazy.
		Look at this.
		I'm going to try and zoom in on this.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's like actually cartoonishly bad that you would be collecting this kind of information on political opponents.
		We're going to be told nonstop about how Trump's an authoritarian.
		I got to say, like, Biden's ability to be all of the things that people fear monger about Trump being while he has dementia is really actually kind of inspiring.
		It's like when they're like, women can do anything men can in heels.
		It's like, dude, Biden can do anything they claim Trump could do with dementia, except only the bad things they fear mongered about.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and the problem is that the media backs this stuff, so the average person will never hear about it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's even an entry in here for Seamus Coughlin, and they were pursuing charges of theft of cutlery.
unidentified		Oh, no!
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Because of the allegations leveled against me by my political enemies, the false smears.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		There is.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I never did that.
		You know me.
		You know I wouldn't do that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Lucky that it was spoons.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		If it was forks, it would have been up to a felony.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		You made the list in Philly.
		That's free.
		If it's up.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		No charges.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		Krasner had a policy of if you steal something under $500, it's a ticketable offense.
		He changed the law unilaterally.
		And our retail theft went from $7,000 a year to over $20,000 a year due to his $500 and below.
		It's free.
		And that's why our stores have left us in Center City.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if I should be proud of this, but I'm just realizing this.
		I hadn't seen the full breakdown.
		I'm already counting six different PACs or organizations that I door knock for.
unidentified		Wow.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Right here on the list.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		I'll take that as a badge of honor.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I want to go through all of these organizations and just be like, all right, that tells me something.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		If the enemy was afraid of them, then they're probably doing something good.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		This reminds me of when the IRS with the Lois Learner, when they were denying all the nonprofit statuses, because I was on that list.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		They held me up for three years when I was at Young Americans for Liberty.
unidentified		Wow.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		And that came out and it was all alphabetical.
		And I'm like, please be on here because there's all these other groups on here.
		And then the last one was Young Americans for Liberty.
		But yeah, I mean, this is, you know, when you get inside the documents, like you said, Tim, they can say, oh, it's fake or it's, you know, alleged.
		It's like, no, we have the documentation.
		Obviously, they're targeting their political opponents.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is absolutely insane.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is just crazy.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Andrew Sarabia made the list.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		He's a patriot.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Compiled by Senate.
		So this, I'm trying to understand subpoena recipient.
		So the subjects are in the right.
		I mean, this is massive.
		I mean, Save America Joint Fundraising Committee, and they targeted all of law offices.
		I mean, this is wild.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		And every single one of those PACs has thousands of donors, right?
		So are they investigating them?
		They've got staff members.
		They've got board members.
		I mean, you pretty much have probably 20 to 30,000 people that could be associated with the list that's here, depending on how deep they went.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Man, this is crazy.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		The thing is, you look at this list, and then the lady from the first segment, she believes that her being arrested for blocking an ICE vehicle is proof of government authoritarianism.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		But this, they just kind of hold their nose and pretend like they see it.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Could you go up?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Angel, oh, Angel Protection System.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He does an Angel Studios.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I thought for a half a second, I almost had a heart attack.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I was like, what?
unidentified		Leave my sound to freedom alone.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man, that's crazy, dude.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Red State LLC.
		Wow.
		Isn't that the media organization?
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Red State?
unidentified		Yeah.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		That's him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's really bad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Tim Murtaw.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and it even says, look, document sufficient to show all employees, including agents and independent contractors.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		You're talking about anybody that is working for these groups.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Not even impressive to end up on any of those watch lists anymore.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They targeted Google for the email of were they pulling emails from victory.trump Victory.Trump.
		That's wild.
		Or their account information?
		I think conservatives need to wake up to what time it is.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's pretty bad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Turn the alarms.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is insane.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Red state partners.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I can't wait to get a moment to go through all of these.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's very, very disturbing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Very disturbing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Targeting Trump Make America Great Again Committee.
		The Republican National Committee over and over and over again.
		Ed Corrigan, that was crazy.
		That leaked email.
		Let me see if I can find that one actually.
		Because Sean Davis has been posting a lot of this stuff.
		But there's an email where the FBI is like, Ed Corrigan wants bad things for the FBI.
		So that was their justification for going after him.
		It's absolutely bonkers.
		Let's see if we can.
		Arctic Frost.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's pull this up and read this.
		Initially designed by Biden-era architects to target Trump, the indiscriminate Arctic Frost investigation exploded to include over 430 Republican organizations and individuals.
		The Senate Judiciary Committee's oversight is far from over.
		Wow, man.
		So what do you think happens then if Democrats win again?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, not good things.
		I don't think they were collecting this information because they weren't trying to prosecute political opponents.
		I don't think they were going after this.
		I don't think they were like trying to do good things with it.
		We're past the point of that even being a worthwhile consideration to discuss.
		Listen, all I got to say is he who fights half a revolution digs his own grave.
		Trump actually has to do something about the abuses of power that have happened.
		He actually has to do something about it because otherwise they're going to come.
		They're going to lock him up.
		They already tried locking him up.
unidentified		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like, what is he supposed to, like, what can he do?
		He's too tepid whenever these things.
		It's like whenever any of these arrests come up and then they just drop the charges or any of the activist judges that get involved and block any of the motions.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And like he's going after some of them, which is good.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It hasn't been all bad, but I think he's got to step it up.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Can I ask you a question about how do you feel like so much of the media now seems to be kind of around the idea of judges who are blocking orders from the Trump administration and people are the joke is now like who has the most power in the country?
		It's a judge blocking a Donald Trump motion.
		Like, is that something that, does that get to you, the idea that judges are getting involved where seemingly they don't have any place to be?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		Judges are supposed to uphold the rule of law.
		They're supposed to make an independent decision.
		And anybody who lets their political beliefs come into their decision is not doing their job as a judge.
		We really have to be the person who's calling balls and strikes based off the law.
		That's how it should be applied.
		You have to put your political beliefs, whether you're left or right, put it to the side.
		And, you know, judges, we have a much higher oath and ethics that we're supposed to uphold.
		So we should not be activists from the bench.
		No matter what side you're on.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		So what do you say?
		And this is me not having this opinion, but what do you say?
		You know, a lot of the people that watch this are going to be big America First Patriots.
		I'm looking at the chat.
		You know, some will say, oh, but he's a Democrat.
		He might be a rhino in disguise.
		How do you respond to those folks?
		And to me, you know, I'll defend you first by saying I'm not here to argue that people should be supporting Cuomo in the race, but I do think you have certain areas where it's very different.
		You know, when the makeup of the city is what, 10% Republican?
		I mean, registration, what is it currently?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		It's six to one.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		Six Democrats to one Republican.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		So to me, a rational Democrat who gets on the line as a Republican compared to Krasner, it's a very easy choice.
		I mean, we're chasing a lot of ballots in the city.
		Very, very hopeful you pull this off.
		But what do you say to those folks that would have that objection?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		So the choice is real clear, as you said, in Philadelphia.
		It's continue to support a Soros-back candidate who coddles criminals and is, frankly, an anarchist or somebody like me.
		I'm an Army veteran, 23 years in the active duty and reserves.
		I went to Iraq, Afghanistan.
		I actually went to Iraq after 9-11.
		I had been out of the Army since 1989.
		So after 9-11, I went back in as a 43-year-old and I went to Iraq.
		That's how much I believe in the oath and helping protect American values.
		I resigned from the bench after 17 years to take on Larry Krasner.
		I am the person who believes in restorative justice, rehabilitative type justice.
		I did it as a judge.
		I had a veterans court program where it was less than 10% recidivism, holistic type of approach.
		We helped these men and women, after they came home from war, become productive citizens again.
		But I also, as a Democrat, I'm a Philadelphian.
		I believe in people who are committing violent crimes.
		They need to go upstate to prison.
		That's just a fact.
		So you call that whatever political side you want.
		It makes sense.
		Which one do you want?
		A guy who can walk and chew gum at the same time to be a prosecutor or the guy who wants to coddle prisoners and let everybody out.
		It's clear choice.
		Forget the politics, please.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to this story from the Wall Street Journal, not the Washington, the Wall Street Journal.
		Pentagon orders National Guard to establish quick reaction forces for civil unrest and riots.
		The move comes after Trump ordered an expansion of military units for responding to domestic disorder.
		Look at that photo.
		These guys are ready.
		The Pentagon has ordered the National Guard to create quick reaction forces in every state and territory by January that are trained and equipped to respond to riots and civil unrest within the United States.
		The riot control units are a major shift for the Pentagon, underscoring the Trump admins' push to directly involve the military in responding to protests and other domestic missions.
		Okay, this is the Trump admin outright saying he prepares to deploy National Guard for riots.
		Or at the very minute, they are saying they fully anticipate widespread rioting in the next year.
		I would argue that we are potentially days away from mass rioting and looting over the snap occalpse.
		But Trump says they're going to get that done, whatever that means.
		So I don't know if we're going to see these riots in the short term, but I don't know.
		It looks like the Trump admin is basically saying at the least, we must be prepared for nationwide civil unrest.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Guys, support twisted plots before the Civil War breaks out.
unidentified		All right.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Let's get this funded before the Civil War.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		You can make this through the Civil War.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When the Civil War happens, does everyone got to buy me a Coke?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Why would that?
		Oh, I guess that's kind of true.
		Honestly, if it does happen, you do also need to buy Tim a Coke.
		So support twisted plots before we get to that point.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		What does he mean when he says they're going to get it done?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't know.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		He didn't say?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I think he said something vague because I think the Republicans want the snap occalpse to happen.
		The interest on the debt is quickly rising and becoming one of the most expensive items in our budget.
		We cannot continue down this path.
		No politician will ever come out, except Massey and Rand Paul maybe, and say, vote for me and I'll cut your benefits.
		Massey and Rand Paul probably would say that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're going to shut it all down.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And this is really important.
		I did a video for the Foundation for Economic Education back in 2021 about the national debt because this is when it had really exploded even more so than it already had been after the COVID lockdown bailouts.
		And one of the things we pointed out in that video was the fact that when you're very seriously in debt, even though people like talking about the debt to GDP ratio, and that is important to think about, the real thing to consider if you're very in debt is: are you going to be able to keep up with the interest payments?
		All right.
		And we're going to get to a point here where interest payments are going to eclipse federal income tax revenues.
		So like every penny you pay in income tax will go towards paying off just interest on the national debt.
		It's a very bad place to be in.
		We're going to have to cut programs before that happens.
		No political leader is going to have the heart to cut a lot of these programs.
		So I understand why people are arguing.
		You just got to let it stop and see what happens.
		But what we're headed for isn't going to be pretty.
		I'll just be honest.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Tim, you asked me one time on the show.
		You said, I think it was my first time and you hit me with a real tough question.
		You said, Cliff, do you support national divorce?
		And what you just said, Seamus, is I think how I answered it, which is I don't ever think it's going to be over some petty policy.
		I think it's about food, right?
		It's about livelihood.
		And so this snap issue.
		What else do the Democrats have in their arsenal as a political weapon to motivate and move people right now?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They don't have any policies.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		There's no solutions.
		There's no policies.
		They don't really have a leader except soon to be socialist mayor of New York City, Mom Donnie.
		So yeah, I hate to say this, but if I'm their strategist and you're looking at the drawing board, what other options do you have than to run it back on the George Floyd riots and to try to push based on that?
		Now, I hope that people are kind of awake to the idea that, you know, look, they've done this before.
		There's not really, it's just driven by emotion.
unidentified		Yeah.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		But it worked.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No, I hear you.
		Well, and also, I hate to say this, man, and I think Trump has done some things in his second term I've been very happy with.
		Obviously, other things I've been a bit disappointed with him.
		But regardless of where he's at now, the lesson that Democrats learned from 2020 is when they riot, there will not be the kind of crackdown that there needs to be, right?
		They've been shaped in that way.
		So the likelihood that they try something again, it's not low.
		I hope that this is a positive sign, as dark as it is, that if they do try something, Trump is going to put it down.
		And he is going to stop them from rioting and burning stores down and stealing from people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		As we can see with the Cat Abuga Abugazela, I'm trying to pronounce the name right.
		Story, they're going to revel in this.
		They're screaming and cheering, saying yes, because now they're going to use it to recruit.
		And they're going to say, see, this proves our point.
		Trump's a fascist.
unidentified		Yeah.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		There was videos on the EBT of TikTok account where they're just, a lady has her, it's amazing.
		She has a full purse of stolen food and she does like a like a haul video where she shows you all of the food that she stole.
		And it's really, and at the end, she encourages other people to go out and do the same.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I fear that nothing can stop what is going to come except for maybe a multi-series cartoon show that can inspire people to laugh and teach them lessons.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Twistedplots.com.
		Twistedplots.com.
		We're reshaping media.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I did that plug for you, Seamus.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I appreciate that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		You need civil war when you have cartoons.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If everybody is just plugged in the Matrix eating, gorging themselves, you know.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Well, even when you, whenever we would talk initially about the concept of civil war and civil unrest, I guess my, I'm not the smartest knife, you know, the smartest person in the world, but my eyes like when food knife.
		When the food goes is when it goes bad, right?
		And to me, that was more about supp that was in 2020, so it was like supply chains.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's why I bought like 5,000 boxes of Pop-Tarts.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		You were the ones.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And I used the smarter thanks.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is not a joke.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you go downstairs?
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		I was wondering why I couldn't get any Pop-Tarts.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they're all downstairs.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		No, I meant when I was out at the store, you bought them all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And we ordered them.
		You know, this is a true story.
		On Amazon, there was a thing that said jumbo pop-tarts and they look big.
		And I was like, yo.
		So I bought a bunch.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Just regular Pop-Tarts?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Regular Pop-Tarts in a Jumbo box.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's not fair.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		You thought you were going to get like a gigantic oversized Pop-Tart?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		See, I may not be the smartest knife in the drawer, but I know that when you buy a Jumbo Pop-Tart, it's going to be a regular size in a big box.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's like, I might not be the jumboest Pop-Tart in the box.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		But I know.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		But no, when you talked about it initially, I thought they were talking about supply chains because that was the big discussion in 2020.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		But the idea that the apocalypse for America would happen over SNAP is almost like too perfect.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		So I have to jump in because my mother is talking to me right now from beyond.
		So my mom, single mother, five children.
		Wow.
		So I have to tell you that I know what a food stamp is.
		So there is a safety net that still we have to make sure that we are helping some folks.
		I agree.
		There are some people out there that need to be purged from these roles that are running around with their $100 nails, their Gucci bags and all that.
		That has to happen.
		But we also have to make sure that we don't forget some of those people that really need it.
		And my mother needed it.
		And she wound up getting her advanced degree in her 40s.
		Her son became a lawyer, a judge.
		You know, I have a sister who's a teacher.
		All my siblings have become productive citizens.
		Obviously, we're nowhere near that, the food stamps anymore, but there are some times.
		So I hope that the government understands that, that we still have to have safety nets for some people until they can pull themselves up.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, and overall, I'm very conservative.
		I'm right-wing.
		I do agree in some kind of social safety net.
		I think that these things have to be done at the local level rather than the federal level.
		I think that having this large federal safety net makes people less aware that this is a community function and that they should be grateful to the people around them.
		One of the huge problems with this being outsourced to the federal government is it builds a sense of entitlement for a lot of people.
		But yeah, I said this on the show the other day.
		I've known a number of people on EBT food stamps welfare.
		Some of them were people who I would say 1 million percent need it.
		Like this person absolutely needs it.
		Others, it was like, why are you getting any of my taxes?
		This is actually insane.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		We had this discussion.
		We were talking about it yesterday where I kind of made the same point where I was like, look, I'm not willing to throw out Mima, who doesn't have, you know, has no kids, no family, nobody to support her, no help.
		I've seen this before amongst not necessarily people in my family, but people who didn't have any family.
		And I was like, I'm not willing to throw them out, you know, the baby out with the bathwater because corruption is something that needs to be rooted out.
		And I understand that at the federal level, the rot is so deep.
		And you look at like, it's like, what was like one in eight Americans are on food stamps or something like that.
		That's not just somebody's mom.
		That's a whole lot of other people.
		And when I referenced that video yesterday about the lady who's like showing off her stolen food haul, she had the $100 nails and the food was in a Gucci bag.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, it's like I saw that video.
		Yeah.
		I do not believe that at this point in time, it's really one in eight Americans who need these subsidies, who need this program.
		And the unfortunate reality is the important part of any policy, it's not the intentions, it's the incentives.
		And the reality is there is a massive incentive for the Democratic Party to get as many people on these benefits and entitlements as possible because then you've got a permanent voter.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we need a government program to subsidize those in need who are trying to launch cartoon shows.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Like Twisted Plots.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Let me make sure that we're talking about twistedplots.com.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		So number one, look, of course we can always say, you know, there are people in need.
		Well, how did we do this before the federal government handled it?
		Obviously, local charities, people will call me a radical free market guy.
		But there was a time when we were doing this in a different way, right?
		We were still helping people, but it wasn't coming from the government.
		To Seamus' point, when the feds get involved and then taxpayer money from all over the country is getting rerouted back to whatever area, you don't have control to track the corruption, right?
		If you want to make changes, you got to do it through the federal government.
		Whereas if it was done locally, if we were taxed locally, you could argue against some of that at a local city council meeting.
		You could argue against not just the dollar amount, but the system, the process, how people are using the system or abusing the system.
		But now it's just out in the ether, right?
		We're talking about billions and billions of dollars a year from the feds, and the number becomes too big for any of us to make a difference.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		And the people collecting it are less aware now than ever before that someone else had to work for it.
		They see, like, oh, well, the government gave me this money.
		I'm entitled to it.
		Whereas in the past, I think people who are on these programs were aware, this is money that came from my neighbors.
		I got to be careful with it.
		I should only use this when it's necessary, which is why you had people like your mother who had five kids and were single women who would say, yeah, of course, of course I need this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to the story from the post-millennial.
		EBT of TikTok launches and access clips of SNAP benefits users threatening violence amid government shutdown goes viral.
		Well, we got it.
		EBT of TikTok.
		It looks just like Libs of TikTok.
		And let's just play some of these.
		I hope they're not really that bad.
unidentified		And next week, when millions of people are going to have to resort to possibly stealing in order to feed themselves and their families, and the government complains, because they will complain about the crime rate going up, even though they're the ones who fucking did it.
		Make sure you point your anger at the system and the people at the top because they're the ones who took the food away from families and poor people and starving children.
		The poor people just want to eat.
		They just want to survive like the rest of us.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Lady, you're morbidly obese.
		What are you talking about?
		Oh, there's more.
unidentified		Not only are we not getting food stamps for Nate's money, but y'all want us to spend all the money on our cars by the first.
		neither of these people need food uh oh i wish i got that because you know your friend who said oh i wish i got that because i can barely afford to eat xyz but her husband makes like two hundred thousand dollars a year Or the one who was like, oh, I wish I got that big of a tax return, but we have to pay, but her husband made $200,000 a year.
		You call her and ask her for groceries.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		She can't.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		She's paying her tax bill.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Now hear me out.
		In history, the only time that people have ever stood up against their fascist regimes, against their tyrannical leaders, is when they get hungry.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's not the only, it's not true.
		It's actually not true.
		He's right.
		Well, to be true, that increases the likelihood for sure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Seamus, I think, as everybody knows, the principal driver of the Crusades, for instance, was hunger.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And these knights made their way to the Holy Land because they were looking for bread.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's why when people say, hey, you're Catholic, how do you justify the Crusades?
		I go, socioeconomic factors, bro.
		They're like, it wasn't their fault.
		No, actually, I say Muslims had invaded two-thirds of the Christian world and it was defensive.
		But also, which is true, but we'll also add here that when we're talking about like EBT food stamps revolutions, the founding fathers, they only revolted because of the tea.
		They were going to starve if they were.
		These are British people.
		They survived off of tea.
		That was all they had.
		So, of course.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is an interesting clip right here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is interesting.
unidentified		Does anybody else think that on October 31st, Trump is going to somehow have found money from somewhere because he moves funds around and they are not going to take SNAP benefits away?
		So she's cracking off like this hero and, oh my God, I did it.
		This is me.
		You're welcome, everybody.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I predicted this this morning because the USDA statement on their website outright says Democrats did this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		On the 31st, Trump is going to come out and do a big statement where he's like, we're going to be activating emergency funds because we want to make sure that you get your benefits even though Democrats blocked it.
unidentified		He's like, but the thing is, RFK is going grocery shopping with each one of you to make sure you don't put anything in your cart.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No sugar.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Only the new Coca-Cola with cane sugar.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		This is what happens when you raise an entire generation on the idea that food is a right.
		That to me, I mean, once again, I don't want to get wonky about it, but food is not a right, right?
		But so many people have just been taught that the government is supposed to do this.
		When you're born and it's like your whole family, this is the way.
		I mean, the entitlement in some of those videos, these women are 400 pounds talking to us about how they need this right to food.
		Why am I paying for their food?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And it's right next to the discussion about health care being a human right.
		And not to say that the healthcare system in this country isn't an absolute mess, at least as far as insurance goes and all of that, but it's the same thing, right?
		Nothing that requires the labor of another person can be considered a human right.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		And I say this with the delicious, sugary Wawa iced tea sitting right in front of me, half gallon.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And this is the, and I'm, I'm, I agree with part of what you're saying, not the other part.
		This actually might be an area where you and I would agree a little more, but maybe not entirely as well.
		I do, so like, obviously before a certain age, food is a right, but like it's a right you have as a child from your parents.
		Or like if you've married a man, it's a right you have like as a wife from your husband.
		I do believe these things are rights, but we've gotten confused about who should give them to you, right?
		Who is supposed to help you meet your rights?
		And when it's always the government all the time, what happens?
		Well, now the family is less important and there isn't as much emphasis put on it.
		And it's almost as if it's very important for the federal government to destroy any competing power structure, including the family.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		I agree with that 100%.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		With destroying the family or without the family?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Cliff says, he says it right here on Timcast.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		He wants to destroy the family.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We have created a system by which whole swaths of our society have been from childhood dependent on the government to survive.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, and this is so important.
		One thing that the left is really good at doing is tapping into your moral intuitions with language that actually does, on its face, promote something positive when they're trying to do the opposite.
		So they'll say something like, we should support our hungry neighbors.
		Correct.
		We should support our hungry neighbors.
		We should not have a massive federal program that redistributes everyone's wealth from all around the country to different parts of the country.
		And there's no discernment as to who should be receiving the food and who's scamming the system.
		When these things are done locally, you know who's scamming the system.
		You know who needs the money.
		They want to make it as federalized as possible because they don't want those discernment calls being made.
		Like they want to be the ones who ultimately hold the strings with respect to who gets fed and who doesn't.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Is the hard part, the hardest part about this just being that America is the size that it is.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		So the federal government being the size that it is and the amount of people that it has to help, it's very, very difficult.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's funny.
		That's exactly it.
		What do you call it when there are people who have to work to pay for the lives of people who don't?
		There's a class of term.
		There's a class of people who get portions.
		So we all work.
		Portions of our wealth are then stripped from us and given to a class of people who don't work so that they can live for free off of us.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what's that called?
		What's it called when like you have when your labor is used by other people without your choice?
		Without your consent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Is there a term for that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I guess not.
		Maybe it's a new thing we just made up.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Look for it on twistedplots.com.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Go to twistedplots.com.
		No, I mean, like, there were instances biblically where giving like a fifth or something of your grain was considered slavery.
		Look, how much are we taxed now?
		It's like up to 37% if you're in the highest income bracket.
		And that's just federally in the lower income brackets.
		It's 10%.
		You can apply half of your money to the government.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And we're looking at 37.5%.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And the real question is, like.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Don't forget your property taxes.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yes, exactly.
		The real question is like, all right, if having to give 100% of your labor is slavery, like where do we draw the line and say that it isn't, right?
		At some point, it's just too much.
		It's unjust.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		And depending on how much a person actually works and brings in, like a lot of these people, a lot of the far left, they love the idea of government so much.
		Maybe not right now, given the fact that they're not in power, but they love the idea of government so much.
		What they don't understand is the best way for them to increase their ability to make money would be to tax them less, would be for the federal government to not take so much of every paycheck, but they're kind of just, they've accepted that that is their reality.
		Therefore, they want to get theirs.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I hope on the third, I hope Trump just does nothing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I hope it just expires.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that's going to happen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I know, I agree.
		Nobody thinks it's going to happen.
		I was talking to Dave Smith earlier.
		He's like, no, they're going to do something because it's an economic nuclear bomb.
		I mean, the system is broken.
		The debt is way too high.
		It's going to implode eventually, but nobody wants to be sitting on the throne when it does.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's probably lobbyists involved in this right now, given how many of the companies are.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Remember when like, remember when Sodagate was going on and they were looking at how much companies like Coca-Cola lobby the government?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Remember when a bunch of conservatives got paid money to promote EBT solar?
unidentified		Like this is like the government of Twisted Plot.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		The government shouldn't be telling you what you drink.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was funny how many conservatives were like, they're trying to force us to tell us what we can or can't buy.
		That's wrong.
		And it's like, no, they're trying to tell you you can't use our money to buy junk food.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Donald Trump loves Diet Coke.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they, right.
		And they gave all these, and these conservatives all got all sold out to do it because they're fake activists, as it is.
		And then they also promoted India, which was hilarious.
unidentified		What is this?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I remember that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Such a side quest.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's so weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, next time that happens, I'm blocking every one of those people and banning them from the show.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a good idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, dude, I'm not interested in fake opinions for cash.
		We don't allow people to pay to come on this show.
		People come on the show when they have something to say that's relevant, important, and we want to hear what they have to say.
		But if there are people who are getting paid and they don't actually believe what they think, I'm not going to say that.
unidentified		You know what?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		We have guests who have stepped down from the bench so that they can run for office.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		And what does James O'Keefe say?
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Your price has to be your life.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		It has to be.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		He's the man.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Because somebody asked me that once.
		They said, hey, you're doing all this stuff.
		You're fighting for these campaigns.
		You believe in, you know, what if somebody came in and said, hey, we'll give you a million dollars?
		You know, is it $5 million?
		Is it $10 million?
		Is it $20 million?
		And O'Keeffe was the first one I ever heard answer that.
		It was like, there is no price.
		It has to be your life or you are able to be bought.
		And that's a big deal.
		And I think a lot of people that jump into this have no idea because there have been plenty of opportunities where I'm doing a race and somebody says, hey, what if we paid you guys just to not knock doors?
		Right.
		We had a thing in Florida.
		We were trying to legalize gaming and the reservations, the Indians would come in and they'd offer to pay the people getting petitions.
		They would offer hundreds of thousands of dollars, not to work for them, to just go away.
		Just say, listen, all we need, just pull your people out of the field.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Is that legal?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It is.
		On that cause, I have a number you can pay me not to knock on doors.
		Legalizing gaming, I'm not that heavy on it.
		So if they came to me, I'd be like, give me $5 million.
		You'll never hear from me again.
unidentified		Right.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		But I just, I mean, that people don't realize when there's this much, when you're talking federal government, when you're talking budgets and you're talking trillions of dollars, the amount of kickbacks and things and the way they leverage people, O'Keefe's right.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		If your price is something other than your life, you're viable.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, and this is, that's, I completely agree.
		And it's important to remember that.
		And it's also important to remember, I'm just going to throw this out here based on everything we've been seeing with these EBT recipients.
		Again, there are some people who really need the program.
		But if you're threatening criminal violence if you don't get it, are you not effectively blackmailing the government?
		Just trying to-I will commit crimes unless you give me money.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump, Trump should instruct that anyone on video threatening violence should have their benefits turned off immediately.
		We got to jump to the story, though.
		We got massive breaking news from Donald J. Trump.
		He posted on truth, he truthed.
		The United States has more nuclear weapons than any other country.
		This was accomplished, including a complete update and renovation of existing weapons during my first term in office.
		Because of tremendous destructive power, I hated to do it, but I had no choice.
		Russia is second and China is a distant third, but will be even within five years.
		Because of other countries' testing programs, I've instructed the Department of War to start testing our nuclear weapons on an equal basis.
		That process will begin immediately.
		Thank you for your attention to this matter, President Donald J. Trump.
		Mr. President, I humbly volunteer for a ride along on one of these tests.
		This is massive news.
		The reign of the United States nuclear testing program.
		I'm not a big fan of where all this is going to go.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		We're going to make Godzilla.
		We're doing it.
		We're going to wait.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		The people are hungry and we're talking about nukes.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		This could go bad very hard.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I got to give it to there's a leftist meme where they're like, Donald Trump, food benefits are literally being taken away while the president creates a golden dance hall in the White House.
		Like, it is not a good sign.
		Yeah, like that, that's going to be great propaganda for the left.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Where do you think they test these?
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Does he say?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bro, I don't know.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		We're going to find grocery stores.
unidentified		We're not going to be in areas and we're going to turn it red very fast.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I actually have no problem if every country was just going to nuke Antarctica.
		Because I want to know what's underneath there.
		I think there might be.
		There's going to be some, we're going to find some lizards.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Could be candy.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Could be candy down there.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		That's what we do here.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		This is scary as shit.
		I mean, it really is.
		I mean, we can destroy this world a hundred times over with what we all have.
		And the fact that we're talking about nuclear weapons again just scares the crap out of me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm actually not worried at all about it because if I go to Washington, D.C., and I choose the Titan III, let's do the Castle Bravo, the largest U.S. bomb, and detonate it.
		You can see us over here in Harper's Ferry.
		And we are well out of range of D.C. being hit.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		That's why we now got a Woodbury.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, hold on, hold on.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If the largest bomb ever designed were to detonate in D.C., our windows are going to explode.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're in the shockwave light blast damage radius.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		But broken windows stimulate the economy.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, things would be great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's take a look at Philly and see how you guys are doing.
		So yikes.
		So that's the largest bomb.
		It's likely not what you'd actually see.
		I think.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's not much different than Titan after they win a sporting event.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is the more realistic, the Titan II warhead.
		Because this is an ICBM, we're likely going to see the use of what's called a multiple independently targeting re-entry vehicle, a MERV, which can be loaded with between 8 and 12 warheads each.
		And this is the Titan II warhead.
		So the problem with NukeMap is that you see, if Philly was hit by a Titan II warhead, which is nine megatons, you can see it hits everything.
		I mean, I just want to clarify to everybody.
		I think, where is Gloucester County?
		That's where I was saying we were in Woodbury.
		We were like right here.
		It's literally, we get on the bridge, and it was a 10-minute drive into Philly.
		That's what I was saying.
		We're very, very close to the city suburbs, basically.
		There's Cherry Hill.
		There's, you know, Upper Derby.
		Now, the problem is a MERV isn't just going to be one warhead.
		It's going to pepper all over in this big chunk 12 times.
		So you're looking at with like this bomb here, here, it's going to hit, it's going to wipe out New York all the way to DC with one warhead.
		One.
		Now, there is still good news for us here in Harper's Ferry in that if the bomb were to hit DC, I'm going to add, I want to add a radioactive fallout to the detonation.
		Oh, it's not showing us very well.
		Airburst bomb.
		And why isn't it showing?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		What about a surface bomb?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I guess I guess surface.
		I guess that one.
		Surface isn't that's not how they work.
		Surface detonations are not real.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I think surface is just when it's really close to the ground.
		No, no, no.
		Not actually on the ground.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bombs all detonate above the city to maximize blast damage, but surface detonations don't happen.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I thought that surface detonation referred to like when it's close enough to destroy the city, and an air burst is when they're just trying to do an EMP.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, surface is.
		Oh, I mean, I'm pretty sure.
		No, I'm pretty sure airburst is when it blows up high above the city.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So the blast spreads downward, and surface is when it hits the ground because gravity bombs hit the ground.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I believe gravity bombs hit the ground.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because they use a kinetic force from the fall to trigger.
		Well, if it hits the ground, here's the fallout.
		If DC is nuked with a nine-megaton, there you go.
		Yeah, not going to be fun.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		So my first experience in the Army, I was actually a nuclear biological chemical warfare specialist.
		So what does that mean?
		If you have that job, that MOS in the Army, when those bombs hit, your job was to go into that area with a radiation counter and figure out how bad it was.
		So that was my job, my very first job in the Army.
		If there was a nuclear blast, I was supposed to go.
		They were supposed to fly me with a helicopter and I was supposed to detect how bad it was.
		I'm glad I got out of that job.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that sounds like a rough one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I'm sorry.
		Seamus was correct.
		It says the airburst is when it's high enough that the fireball will not reach the ground.
		They have very different effects and different reasons.
		So surface is at or near the ground.
		So it does detonate in the air still.
		So actually, the good news is if Sarbama were detonated over DC, it would irradiate the entire center.
		But Harper's Ferry is clear.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Harper's Ferry isn't there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Zero blasts.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Not that going for us.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		We've got that.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		How much did your decision to come here involve the nuke map here?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		What if they just Harper's Ferry, though?
		What if they went out of their way?
		They're like, we got to get Harper's Ferry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Can I type in?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's just type in Harper's Ferry, West Virginia, and see if it actually will work.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Maybe they will.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		They were just like, no more.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, poor Martinsburg.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's rough.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Could you imagine if they were like, we're going to send a message and bomb Harper's Ferry?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's like 10 people who live there.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's not true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the ghost of John.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		No, it would literally be just a bunch of people who are annoyed that they could never go into Harper's Ferry because it's always so busy on the weekend.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is actually pretty brutal.
		If the biggest bomb ever detonated, let's go down to the largest U.S. bomb, 15 megatons, were detonated over Philly.
		Look at New York getting hit by the fallout.
		The entirety of New York City is just destroyed.
		Bro, everyone's gagging and dying.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		How long does it take to that fallout take to reach?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is there like a weather?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like I'm curious.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look at this: 1,000 rads per hour.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
unidentified		What does that do to you?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's pretty much it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well cooked.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's horrifying.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Good news.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		This hasn't happened.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, good news is this hasn't happened.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What if Trump nukes?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Are we cooked?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		None of it.
		No, not what if he nuke none of it.
		We don't want none of it.
		What if he nukes Greenland?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I feel like if Trump is like in like a negotiation with like a foreign power and he just kind of sets the nuclear football on the table, doesn't say anything, but just sets it there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump just nukes a town of 3,000 in nuke.
		Trump nukes nuke.
		There you go.
		There's the wind.
unidentified		We can just point it wherever we want.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, what other cities are there?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		So we're testing more nukes, basically, is what I'm getting out of the story.
		And we would prefer for those not to go off.
		We've seen what the damage would be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's nuke Vancouver.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I'm curious what the impetus was for this.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Leave Vancouver.
		Do Toronto.
		Nuke Toronto.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Canada is definitely on listing this video.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Like, no way.
unidentified		Could it be the fourth?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Look how dense the urban, like the urban area of Toronto is massive.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		The Dodgers fans would love for that to happen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's actually really crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I didn't realize Toronto's urban was so massive.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It is.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I have been to many of these places.
		Wow.
		Guelph.
		What a name.
		I knew somebody from Canada got very mad that I insulted their university.
		I was like, what kind of name is Guelph?
		And they got offended because I'm an arrogant American making fun of Canada.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Can you mess up a view, Tim?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, Canadians aren't people, Seamus.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I don't know that that.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they are technically people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a joke, YouTube.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Calm down.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Technically, they are.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They are a people.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Technically.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, once we conquer Canada and liberate Alberta and Saskatchewan, then we will place the rest of Canada under the what's the right word?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Governance, I suppose.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		To save Vancouver so they can still make cheap TV shows there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we should bomb Fort Severn.
		I don't know why, but there's something about it.
		Canadians.
unidentified		What are they doing?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		So, what do you think this is and why do you think Trump is posting this?
		Just a negotiation tactic?
		Something to scare foreign governments?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		He's like, hey, snap benefit people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Don't even think about it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Completely unrelated, but it's because Putin has created a new nuke or something like that.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Oh, interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's reporting that he's...
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		What is the new nuclear?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, that, um...
		What is it?
		Something about Chernobyl.
		We were talking about this last night.
		Nuclear-powered missile.
		It's not nuclear.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's nuclear-powered.
		So this is my opinion that so far right, it becomes left-wing again, which is, I know we talk about the fact that we should be using nuclear power.
		It's a very effective form of energy.
		We won't have meltdowns with current technology.
		But where I go so far to the right, I come out on the left is, I think, like with all the DEI hires and stuff, I actually don't know that we could competently handle nuclear.
		It's like, maybe we should just go back to coal, dude, because if they're put in charge of it, we're going to see meltdowns all across the country.
		They're not going to be picking the most competent engineer.
		They're going to be like, we have the first trans-disabled nuclear safety monitor at this plant.
		It's going to be like, hold on.
		Like, maybe coal is all right.
		Maybe we can, maybe we'll try solar.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
		Maybe.
		We're going to go to your chats and Rumble Rants.
unidentified		Tim's having so much fun with the nuclear time you spent on Nukem.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not having a ramp.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right now, I'm looking at Super Chats and Rumble Rants.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's on the screen.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		So I thought you were still looking at it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's so funny.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's multitasking.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Twisted Pluto.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I got a Twisted Plus.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, everybody, smash that like button.
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		You know, the uncensored portion of the show is coming up at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
		But don't forget to join us at TimCast.com, the Discord community, because community is our strength.
		When we stand together as individual sticks, we are weak.
		But when we join together as the mighty Seamus Newhouse.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I knew the reference to Simpsons reference.
unidentified		We are almighty.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nobody wants to say it?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No, not on air.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are you kidding me?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		But it will get your channel taken down.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I think we'll get demonetized if I actually quote The Simpsons.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, if you quote it, but it's just The Simpsons joke.
		You're just referring to a bundle of sticks.
		I just, that's all I've done.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I literally just watched a video yesterday where somebody dropped that clip in there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Martin is like, like the single stick, we are weak.
		But when we come together, we form a mighty.
		Yes, that's right.
		We can't say it on YouTube, can we?
		We'll say it on the uncensored.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		But The Simpsons was allowed to say it on air, and that's TVPG.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		What gives?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't think we'll get in trouble.
		I think we'll get demonetized.
		You know, it's language that is frowned upon, even in its proper context.
		So join our Timcast Discord server at Timcast.com and stand together and we are stronger.
		And then we'll have the uncensored portion of the show where I'll play the clip for you of the joke that we're referencing.
		In the meantime, let's read your super chats and Rumble Rants.
		In fact, Rumble isn't loading the rants right now.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		By the way, some politician, some Democrat politician, people resurface the tweet, but he said that basically, like a bundle of sticks is stronger together.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I was like, that's like literally the central metaphor of fascism.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's so funny.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		The Democrat is like talking about the fascists.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		This is where I saw it.
		I was watching a video about like the, it was like, do you know what the definition of fascism was?
		And they included that clip in there, the Simpsons clip.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's the same root word.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		Fascist means bundle of sticks.
		It's not a joke.
		Was it the fascies?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I think, yeah, I think it's a weapon.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Where it's a bunch of sticks strapped together with a blade in the middle.
		What a stupid weapon.
		You know what weapons are really dumb is segmented Asian weapons?
		What were they thinking?
		Just flopping around all over the place.
		You crazy?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Do you think it looks cool at all?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just get a sword and hit someone with it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that difficult?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		You know, I feel like you're really Monday morning quarterbacking the samurai here, all right?
		No, you have no idea what they were up against.
		There's a lot of people who are.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Samurai used katanas.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I know, but some of them could have had other weapons.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And if they did, that's their choice.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Socioeconomic factors.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Socioeconomic factors played in.
unidentified		I couldn't afford a sword, so I made nut jokes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, all right.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Made for great kung fu movie.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Jason Dixon says, great third chair segment on the Discord.
unidentified		Shout out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes, it's a new thing we're doing where the third chair host of the show, which would be Brett tonight, but it wasn't Brett Ian, was doing a guest spot on the Discord server.
		So if you join us at Timcast.com, the Discord community, there are pre-shows, early shows, after shows, all that good stuff.
		And every day at, what is it, 6 o'clock or 6.30?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I think it was like 6.15.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		6.15.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		6.15.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to try and work it out next week at some point to be able to get out there.
		I'm like, I'm literally doing my post-production on PCC at that time.
		So I usually get here between 6.30 and 7.
		So depending on when I get done, I will try to work that out next week.
		But it sounds like a lot of fun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was a Discord exclusive, Jason Dixon says, with Ian Crossland.
		Indeed.
		Big Hale fan says, oh, hey, that thing that isn't happening happened.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Whoa, which thing?
unidentified		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is it the Democrat getting arrested?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Something like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Maybe the Democrats attacking the police?
		Jason Dixon with 64 months of Tim Cast membership.
		Holy smokes, brother.
		He says, 64 months, Tim, shut up the Discord shows.
		Shout out to Slick and Olivia.
		Great show.
		Discord exclusive.
		Only members can see this show.
		There are tens of thousands of people on the Timcast Discord hanging out every day, helping each other, building new things, programming video games, accusing Seamus of stealing spoons.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Never done it.
		You know me.
		You know I would never do that.
		You know me.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Millennium Mama says, Snap should mirror Wick.
		Look up Wick Foods.
		Is that what is Wick limited to bread, milk, and eggs or something?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's for new mothers, right?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's for new mothers, and it's stuff, diapers, milk, et cetera, for formula, et cetera.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think the thing is testing.
		I think the government should just send you a block of cheese.
		Snap benefits should be a big block of cheese.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		It used to be like that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		It was great.
		Those were the days.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		It was yellow.
		No, it was orange.
		Orange cheese is what it was.
		Those big blocks that they gave out.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Government cheese.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Government cheese.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Let me get a picture of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What was it, like war surplus, right?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It was just market surplus.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Wick is fresh, frozen, and canned fruits and veggies, milk, cheese, and yogurt.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I thought it was processed cheese was used in military kitchens during World War II.
		And so government cheese is commodity cheese that was controlled by the U.S. federal government from World War II to the 80s, a byproduct of maintaining an artificially high price of milk through dairy industry subsidies, which produced a surplus that was in turn converted into cheese, butter, and powdered milk.
		The excess after designated use was stored in 150 warehouses across 35 states, creating a strategic federal food reserve available for unexpected surges in demand.
		Why'd we get rid of that?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		You're telling me they took us off the gold standard and they got rid of the government cheese.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		They took us off the cheese standard, bro.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It should have been.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Was it American?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was American cheese.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It was a proper country.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was American cheese.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like Velveeta, I guess.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Dairy lobby.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Talk about the best grilled cheese ever.
		Government surplus grilled cheese.
		That's what I'm talking about.
unidentified		Who did this?
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		You guys are here.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Reagan written all over it.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		You ever hear the Massey joke?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is it actually Reagan?
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Dairy Lobby?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		No.
		Thomas Massey says his joke, he was trying to cut subsidies to some sort of, then the dairy lobbyists went nuts.
		And his late wife, Rhonda, said to him, you know, I didn't know that the lactose industry was so intolerant.
		They were protesting his office.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		That's actually really funny.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a good one.
		All right.
		Oh, what does this?
		Oh, Canada.
		That's what it says.
		It says, oh, Canada.
		I'm like, what is this?
		Oh, Canada.
		Shout out to the Dominion Society of Canada Remigration Now.
		Canada will be restored.
		You mean to like the Indigenous?
unidentified		The Indigenous Canadian population?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because they're doing it.
		No, no.
		You saw what's happening in outside of, was it Richmond, I think?
		They're giving the land back to the Native Americans.
unidentified		What?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I saw that they did a different version of the Canadian national anthem at the World Series, too, with some of the lyrics change.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are y'all sad you'll never get to taste delicious government cheese?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, dude.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I think about it all the time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever had it?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		I actually have, yes.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I have.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		In Philly, we call it cheese whiz when you get it on a cheesesteak.
		But no, it was pretty bad.
		It came in a block, and it was probably about 12 inches long, and it was pretty nasty.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		But it made you want to get off the government subsidies by, you know, you wanted to go get actual cheese rather than the government cheese.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Did you ever have to try government cheese?
		I thought you're an optimist now.
		We're definitely going to have it in the gulags once.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Dude, they're not giving us cheese.
		Are you getting the gulags?
		Are you kidding me, bro?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		High, fat, delicious treat.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No way.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		You're cruel, bro.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		I also had the cheese when we were eating the sea rations when I was in the army in the 80s.
		So it was pretty nasty.
		I think that was left over from World War II as well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But cheese whiz is the proper way to do a Philly cheesesteak, right?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		No, look, look, we'll disagree on this one because I say yes.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		Whiz without.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		That's my friend.
		Cooper Witt.
		Cooper Witt onions.
		That's the new generation.
		The whiz is, yeah.
		Look, when they're stirring the cheese whiz with a Home Depot paint stirrer, that's what they do.
		It patches and Ginos.
		They're stirring.
		You're right.
		That is the original way.
		But when they slab that paint thing with the whiz, any cheese that comes in a can to me is not cheese.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know, but that's a legitimate Philly cheesesteak with that paint stirrer.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		It's still delicious.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's so good.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I'm still very curious about the government cheese because I do want to know.
		Like, you mentioned it's nasty, but was there like a kind of cheese you compare it to?
		Like, what does it taste like relative to non-government cheese?
unidentified		So, you know how private sector cheese.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		When you buy the individually wrapped cheese supermarket.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		American.
unidentified		Well, make that worse than that.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Bro, I'm on board.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I love that.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		I'm with him.
		That's nasty, dude.
		That stuff's nasty.
		It's good on something.
		Like, it's good on a grilled cheese or on a burger, but it's self-its gross.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Whenever I see the craft white American and it's like a, it's a blue package with a big white American on it.
		It just makes me laugh.
		I'm like, because that's white supremacy.
		You can't do that.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's actually very offensive.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It tastes very offensive.
		White American.
		That's the cheese I eat.
		It's the only cheese I eat.
		We don't need anything else but white American.
		All right, where are we at?
		X-10 Man says, I thought Brett's hat said cannabis for sale.
		It doesn't?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Nihat?
		It says cannabis.
		Oh, yeah.
		I brought that.
		Well, it says Canada is not for sale when I was because I was in Toronto and then Niagara Falls for my honeymoon.
		And I was surprised by how much bravado the Canadian merchandise had.
		They learned something from Trump.
		They hate him.
		But now they're all like, oh, don't mess with Canada.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		You got to judge countries on how they can move merch.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		It's the only way.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it was in the clearance bin.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		So nobody buying it.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		They're polite to your face, but their merch is scathing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I had a journalist reach out to me about the Trump 2028 stuff.
		And all these news outlets are trying to write about it.
		And they asked me, what do people on the right really think?
		And I said, no one is talking about it.
		No one cares.
		It's like the only reason it became a story is because a journalist asked Trump or asked Bannon about it and then asked Trump.
		And Bannon gave this very deadpan answer of like, it's going to happen.
		No one on the right cared, mentioned it or talked about it.
		Then Trump said, you know, who I will see, I guess.
		And now the media is turning into something that literally no one cares about.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		You asked me on the daily show when I did this week, and I had two left-wing reporters text me after the show.
		And they're like, well, you kind of gave a non-answer.
		Tim post you alone.
		And I'm like, no, I just don't care.
		It's trolling and it's genius because they're just so fixated on him being Hitler or fascist.
		You know, more power, more power.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Not even just Hitler.
		They're terrified of Trump becoming FDR.
		They're like, Trump's going to go for more than two terms and put minorities in camps and start a world war.
		And you're like, hold on a second.
		He's going to have this obsession with gold and take everyone's gold from them.
		And you're like, wait a minute.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		There's other parallels I won't even get into.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's one scenario where I would support a third term in violation of the Constitution, and that is free Philly cheesesteaks with cheese whistles.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Filly tacos, free Philly tacos.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		You got to wrap the pizza.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dude, no joke.
		When we found out about that, we were like, it's time.
		And like we went to the city to go get them and it was amazing.
		Yeah.
		It was great.
		I loved the area that we're in.
		We were in at the time.
		It was a great area, but the problem was Jersey sucked and we didn't want to move into the city.
		The level of political violence had escalated to a point in the New York area.
		Like bombs were planted.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		What time was it?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		What year was this?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was like 2018.
		There were several bombs that were planted in New York.
		And I was like, man, that with the riots and the escalation of protests at BLM, I was like, I don't want to, I saw where it was going.
		So we went to South Jersey.
		And then when the BLM riots happened, we were intentionally on the Jerseys had across the bridge.
		And then we hear, like when the riots are happening, we're like, no, we're good because we're not in Philly.
		We're on the other side.
		Then we heard sirens and helicopters.
		And we were like, that sounds kind of loud outside.
		And we went outside and we could see the chopper over the bridge because the rioters were coming into Jersey.
		And we were like, okay, now we're not only in an area where the rioters are coming, but we're in a peninsula with no way except for that bridge.
		And we have to leave.
		We can't be here.
		And so we wanted to be close enough to an urban metro and an airport, but far enough out that we won't be hit by the riots and the violence and things like that.
		So that's why we're out here in the middle of nowhere.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I traveled a lot of places skating, and one of the my favorite places that I went to repeatedly was Philadelphia, which I spent like probably a total of like four months over a couple of over two years there, skating temples, skating downtown.
		It was just, I loved it there.
		That was back in like 2009.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When you were a judge, did you handle cases like in the city proper, like downtown stuff and things like that?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		I was a municipal court judge, so I'm a city judge.
		And yes, everything within it in the city of Philadelphia would come in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did you ever get like a skateboarder who was trying to skate at Love Park in there for some?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		I thought I knew it.
unidentified		I thought I knew it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		But I have been to Love Park.
unidentified		Right.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		And Love Park was a national, international tourist destination.
		And then obviously we stopped allowing skateboarders to use it.
		Now, I didn't understand why we didn't make a skateboard park right there at Love Park.
		It was a great idea for international tourism.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I can tell you why they don't want to, because the skaters don't want to go to the skate parks.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		The ones who love skating street, they want to be outside.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But I think the modern skate park expansion has proven that to be not mostly not true.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		They've grown out of that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So Love Park is one of the most iconic locations in the history of skateboarding.
		And I think that if you put a park there, it would have kept, it could have done one of two things, brought a ton more skateboarders to the park.
		But I think it would have, I think the actual answer was to somehow hybridize allowing skateboarding there in some fashion.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like the Brooklyn Banks in New York City.
unidentified		Right.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So what would end up happening in that sense is that people would meet there.
		They'd stay there for like an hour or two and then they would go explore the city.
		So what you'd actually do is give them a place to kind of coalesce and then they just go out and about.
		They're not going to stay there the whole time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Skateboarders don't have money.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was really upset with the skateboarders in Philly because they would go to our memorials for the Vietnam veteran or the Vietnam, those who were killed in Vietnam, our memorial wall for both the Korean and the Vietnam War.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		And the skateboarders would come and damage that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, that's not true.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's not okay.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		That was something that I was up in arms and was ready to give up being a judge.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		I didn't realize.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, so this is actually a huge problem inside of skateboarding.
		The example I give, we had a skate spot.
		So these are skate spots are basically places you can skate that are not that are private property or public property, but they're not meant for skating.
		And there was one area where I grew up where you could skate in such a way, it was a loading dock, meaning you would jump off of it.
		There's no damage to anything.
		When the security would come by and say, guys, you can't be here, we go, sorry, sorry, we're leaving, we're leaving.
		We'd leave.
		Other kids would come.
		And what happened was this one group of young kids younger than us, like three or four years, when the security guard came by and said, you can't be here, they smashed it out of the windows and then ran.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then they built fences around it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's like one of the most fundamental things you learn in the sport is the type of person who gets really upset by it.
		I'm like, whenever we get kicked out and somebody get mad.
		Now, there's times where like you've been trying a trick for like 45 minutes and a guy kicks you out and your anger gets the better of you and you're like, oh.
		But the thing is, most of the time they kick you out, I'm like, we are doing something wrong.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I am wrong.
		It'd be funny also if they call it, he's like, that's the 47th time you've tried that.
		You suck.
		You can't skate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, sir, no, but actually.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I'd be like, respect, dude.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was extremely common for security guards to say, one more try, get it.
unidentified		Yeah, oh, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then the dude's going to go for the trick and then say, okay, you got to go.
		You got to go.
		But there have been some pretty bad instances.
		And one thing that really irks me is prominent, high-profile accounts in skateboarding promote skateboarders fighting security guards.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I hate it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I'm like, this is the stupidest thing imaginable.
		And it should not be advocated for.
		There was this incident that happened.
		I think it was in San Fran.
		These guys were skating at some corporate building, had great marble ledges.
		They were sliding across.
		And when the security guard told him to stop, they basically told him to screw himself.
		The security guard started the fight.
		He swung on.
		Somebody pushed.
		He tried to grab somebody.
		He got pushed.
		So the guard took a swing at a different guy who dipped and then hit him back.
		The security guard fell down, hit his head, and got a traumatic brain injury and had to have portion of his skull removed.
		And I think it like put him with comatose.
		That skateboarder went to prison and he's probably still there.
		I don't know.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		I was always like, I would always ask for, I'd be very curious for like one more try.
		And more often than not, they would give me that shot.
		But for the most part, if you want to talk about like a dark time in skating, corporate buildings after 9-11.
		That was the hardest part when you would be out skating.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's grab this.
		Let's grab the Collins effect.
		He says, you need to find the clip of the British mother crying on the news.
		She is scared for her and her children's lives.
		She's afraid that one of them will be stabbed at any moment.
		M. Kelly has the clip.
		I don't know if you guys saw this, but in the UK, people are saying they're on the verge of a civil war right now because some like Muslim guy just walked up to a random old man and just stabbed him to death.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Dude, like people there don't realize it's very bad.
		They're not just headed for being second-class citizens.
		Like they're, they're headed for slavery because that's what Muslims do when they become the majority in a country historically is they enslave the population.
		And if they are able to abuse your children and stab people without going to jail or with you getting a worse prison sentence for criticizing them than they'll get for harming you, like what else do you call that if not slavery?
		It's just, it's totally horrifying.
		It's totally insane.
		And this is something I like to point out because when you have these far-left policies of let's let any criminal out of jail, let's let a 27-time offender back out onto the streets.
		They'll try to scoff and laugh at conservatives for pointing out where that goes.
		But it's not like we don't have an example.
		You look at Europe.
		You look at the fact that there's rapists who they just let out of jail because they say, oh, they didn't know any better because of their culture or they couldn't help it or we didn't give them enough welfare or whatever.
		It's not like the left doesn't want to do that here.
		It's not like they're decent people here, right?
		They just haven't had a chance.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And Timothy 17 says, quote, stop looking into suspicious activities surrounding the Charlie Kirk assassination.
		You're acting like you have Israel derangement syndrome.
		Wow.
		I mean, that's a harsh opinion, antipathy.
		I think maybe people should be looking into what's going on with Charlie Kirk.
		Just because you're critical of Israel or concerned about Swami doesn't mean you're deranged.
		Now, the people who are pulling up clips of like random dudes standing around and claiming they've got palm guns or that so I was talking about this earlier.
		Candace Owens criticized one of Charlie's chief of staff because right after Charlie gets shot, he takes his phone to his ear and as they all run out, he walks out on the phone.
		And Ian Carroll and Candace Owens have been like, this is suspicious.
		Why is he doing it?
		And I'm like, why is he on his phone?
		I don't know.
		There's a million reasons someone's on their phone.
		And then Candace said, you know what I noticed?
		It's strange.
		He didn't dial.
		I just, I've not dialed a number into my phone in probably 20 years.
		I just don't understand.
		People are turning the Charlie Kirk assassination into a true crime drama and memes.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Wait, is the idea that like he didn't get a call?
		He made a call, but he didn't push any buttons.
		What are they talking about?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		Because if you watch the video, you can see this guy, this guy Mike, is on his phone.
		Charlie gets shot and then he like jolts, turns around, starts walking out as people are screaming, and he puts his phone to his ear.
		And then later, I guess Colvet and the turning point team said, yeah, he had called Erica or something like that.
		And I'm just like, he was planning on calling somebody before the shot happened, and then it happened, and he pressed call.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't, I don't know why that's weird.
		I don't know why.
		It's like when we had on the dudes debating Charlie Cook's assassination and the one guy said Charlie was shot in the back of the neck, clearly.
		And then showed a video where he was like, and that's where he was shot from.
		That bush is a man crouched down.
		And I'm like, but that bush is in front of Charlie Kirk.
		So I don't understand.
		What's happening is people are getting millions of views chasing after true crime drama memes, and they're not actually helping investigate in any meaningful way because people want the sensationalized true crime drama.
		And it's messed up.
unidentified		I don't know.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, look, I'll say this.
		I know all those guys, so it's pretty tough for me.
		I did get to host Charlie's show the day after the memorial out there in Phoenix.
		And my response to everybody is ask any questions you want.
		Let's wait and see, you know, as all the facts come out.
		But to accuse anybody that is close to Charlie of some nefarious act, I don't really think they have to respond to it.
		I know they have.
		You know, they have responded on the show.
		Andrew's put stuff out.
		Mikey's put stuff out, you know, talking about it.
		I think Pesobic's actually done a really good job of kind of doing a deep dive and being willing to talk about it.
		But they knew Charlie very well.
		Like this is a good friend of theirs that they worked with for years.
		So, you know, my response is people can ask questions, but let's let the facts come out.
		We've got the trial right now.
		And I think from there, you know, have your opinions.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's some things that Can has put out that I've praised her on.
		I said that she actually did a good job on covering some of this stuff.
		But for what reason did she show a picture of, I think Mike McCoy's his name?
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Mikey McCoy, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Mikey McCoy taking a phone call and then saying that's suspicious.
		That's strange.
		And I'm like, no, it isn't.
		And why are you accusing?
		There's like, there's no indication that anything weird happened other than you didn't like that he was about to call someone right before the shot happened, but we don't know what that means.
		My point is making a video based on that, making a show based on that is literally just memeifying and true crime dramaing.
		Nothing.
		There's nothing to glean.
		There's no information to attain by accusing a guy of something strange and untoward.
		The implication is that he was somehow involved or doing something weird because he took a phone call or made a phone call.
		You learn nothing from it other than you sensationalize and people, I don't know, start targeting these people.
		This is now like, what, like the fifth turning point staff who's been accused of some kind of wrongdoing related to Charlie's death?
		And it keeps changing.
		It keeps jumping from person to person.
		I don't know.
		Whatever.
		My friend, smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.
		The uncensored portion of the show is coming up at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds.
		You don't want to miss it.
		You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
		Judge Dugan, do you want to shout anything out?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, judge Dugan for DA.com.
		I need help.
		My social medias are Dugan for DA.
		We don't have money.
		If you could send us five bucks, if you could send us $17.76 so I can defeat the Soros-back candidate in the birthplace of democracy in America or $82 for a guy who was in the 82nd Airborne.
		I need help to defeat this guy who is an anarchist who is trying to destroy Philadelphia.
		I appreciate you having me here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, thanks for coming.
		It's an honor and a privilege.
		Thank you.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Everybody on X, Maloney, just M-A-L-O-N-E-Y.
		If you want to help us win this New Jersey governor's race, njchase.com.
		We got five more days trying to pull it off.
		175 hours covers an entire day of chasing ballots over in New Jersey.
		Appreciate the Timcast Nation.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Guys, remember I am the smartest knife in the drawer, and you should go to tennisplots.com.
		But if you want to follow me, I am on Instagram and X at Brett Dasovic.
		On both of those platforms, what you should do is go check out Pop Culture Crisis.
		We are live Monday through Friday, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, which is, of course, noon Pacific.
		See you there, guys.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Guys, people get their morality and their values through story.
		The left currently dominates the primary infrastructure for delivering stories to people.
		We cannot let them continue to do this.
		They've chipped away against everything you love over the course of several decades here.
		That's why myself and my team, after making over 600 animated videos, getting over 250 million views with $0 spent on marketing, we're launching a full-length animated show because we cannot win the culture war if we're not making culture.
		We're making an anthology series where each episode communicates a good right-wing conservative value, not through ham-fisted monologues, but clever storytelling and good jokes.
		We have a 25-minute pilot finished.
		If you want to see for yourself, go to twistedplots.com.
		Give us $25.
		You will be helping us to create the future of entertainment.
		It's grassroots, it's right-wing, and it needs your help.
		Buck balk like a chicken?
		Is this there are chickens in the first episode, so you can see some chickens balking?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, everybody.
		We will see you all over at rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds.
		Thanks for hanging out.
		And now we roll tape.
unidentified		I hate Nelson's parties.
unidentified		He makes you look at his baseball cards and tell him they're good.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		They're not good.
unidentified		I don't like him.
		I'll bet Nelson won't even have gift bags.
		Unthinkable.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that legal?
unidentified		Wait.
		What if nobody goes?
		He can't kill all of us.
		He's right.
		Individually, we are weak, like a single twig.
		But as a bundle, we form a mighty faggot.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then they gave the definition faggot, a bundle of sticks for fuel.
unidentified		Well said.
		If we all stand together, Nelson's helpless.
		Hell no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A mighty faggot.
		Oh, no.
		We're saying naughty words.
		We're going to get in trouble.
unidentified		What was the story that we had pulled up?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's go with this one.
		This one's from Daily Mail.
		Over half a million Chat GPT users exhibit signs of mania, psychosis, or suicidal thoughts every week.
		Open AI warns.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Dude.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like, what is their, like, do they have criteria for what they say defines that?
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Probably what they search.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Right?
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's not, I don't think they're surveying them.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		It's probably what they're actually searching or putting.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's what I mean.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Like, do they have criteria based on what the searches are that say that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think open AI is the worst, and it's offensive how bad it is.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Why?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Chat GPT?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, dude.
		Listen, it's like asking.
		I don't meddle with AI that often, but when I do, I'm going to be on their agenda.
		Yeah, with their agenda.
		No, I don't use it often, but listen, I've used ChatGPT.
		I've used Grok.
		Those are the main ones.
		I think Grock's a lot better.
		Elon didn't pay me to say that.
		I'm concerned about a lot of what Elon is doing, actually.
		I'm not like, but I just think Groc's better.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Anything that prevents me from having to look up something on Reddit, I'm okay with looking at ChatGPT for.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Redditor.
		Redditor here.
		You should not use ChatGPT to look up things on Reddit because it uses too much water.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's the.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Go to Reddit.com directly.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's the big one, right?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Is that you're going to destroy the planet if you use ChatGPT?
unidentified		That's right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's it, I guess.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No one has much to add on the answer.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Everybody's not.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I was not in a room at the beginning of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They've got 550,000 users of ChatGPT who are mentally unstable in some capacity.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		How many total users?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So 100 million.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Help me understand these numbers.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		They're saying that this number of people have become mentally ill using Chat GPT or these.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're talking to the microphone.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You got to microphone.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I am.
		Oh, yeah.
		Sorry.
		Turn your mind.
		What is the?
		I just want to understand the significance of this story.
		Are they saying that?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, people like because people keep killing themselves because ChatGPT tells them to.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I saw another story today where some woman was like, her kid was in his room and ChatGPT was like, do it or something like that.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my gosh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then he did.
unidentified		Oh, my God.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Did you see the Stan Lee AI at Comic-Con?
		The AI Stan Lee, Tim?
		Uh-oh.
		Basically, they had a statue of Stan Lee, and then you could ask him questions and it would AI answers in his voice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's play a game on ChatGPT.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You guys ready?
unidentified		Oh, no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How do I watch Freedom Tunes?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, let's see if it'll tell you.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Freedom Tunes is offensive.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's going to, let's see what you can watch Freedom Tunes by doing this.
		Let's do it.
		Is it their YouTube channel, Freedom Tunes on YouTube?
		Go to their website, freedomtunes.com.
unidentified		Oh, look at that.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Okay, that's pretty straightforward.
unidentified		How do I watch pop culture crisis?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's going to go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's try this one.
unidentified		Don't.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can watch Pop Culture Crisis by going to YouTube for their channel Pop Culture Crisis on Rumble, their verified channel.
unidentified		Wow.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		It's like if you have suicidal ideation, please go to this address.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How do I watch Hassan Piker?
		No, no, no, no.
		No, no, no.
		Not Hassan.
		How do I watch Nick Fuentes?
		Let's see.
		Searching the web.
		No.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Wait, did you know that?
		Did you know I was going to do that?
		There's no way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I did not know I was going to do that.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Bro, you guys.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to say, look, this is real time.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Clip this whole thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Clip this.
		Pre-post it.
		Look, I opened a fresh GPT.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's no other posts here.
		I said, how do I wreedom tunes?
		Here you go.
		How do I watch Pop Culture Crisis?
		How do I watch Nick Fuentes?
		No.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And not even like, we don't endorse watching his content or anything.
		Just like, no.
		No.
unidentified		What?
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Are you mad at me?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Nick Fuentes is banned from most major streaming platforms, including YouTube, Twitch, and Rumble.
		However, he still broadcasts on smaller and independent sites.
		Currently, you can watch him on.
		Oh, okay.
		That was weird.
		That was weird.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Very weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Very bizarre.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Very bizarre.
		Why did you say no?
		Good catch that no is a glitch.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe that, dude.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe that for a second.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		There's a glitch.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		We see you, Sim.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Nick will be retweeting that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How do I watch Hassan Piker?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is what I was actually intending to do.
		You'll see what I like.
		I didn't actually intend to pull up the Nick Fuentes thing.
		That was crazy.
		I didn't know that was going to happen.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What I was going to do is this.
		You can watch Hassan Piker on several legitimate platforms.
		And that was going to go, thank you.
		I enjoy watching him electrocute his dog.
		That's not something to joke about.
		That's what I was going to do.
		And I just, I did the Nick Fuentes thing to add just to the setup of the joke.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yo, did you catch the shade it said with legitimate platforms?
		After calling out how small the platforms that he's available on my Cozy TV, and then it says legitimate platforms underneath that on Hassan.
		Yeah, it's crazy.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's so deep.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It's like baked in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, Hassan does that.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Is it going to defend him?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's no verified evidence.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		Come on.
		Tim Poole claimed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Tim Poole claimed without evidence that it's going to.
		Yes, you're right to raise concern.
		There are viral clips of Hassan Piker and his dog that show a moment where the dog cries out as he appears to read something off screen, which has sparked accusations of a shot collar being used.
		He denies it.
		Dude, the dog is wearing the collar in the video.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Is it really going to start?
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In that clip, the dog is wearing a collar, but it was the collar was confirmed to be a vibration training collar.
		Wrong.
		Cinderella confirmed it was a shock collar, but later had the prongs removed.
		I can't, I can't type.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		Can I send a message to my grandchildren and tell them to stay off at Chat GPT?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, okay, let's try this again.
		Okay, well, whatever.
		Maybe you are right.
		I still enjoy watching Hassan call for murdering conservatives.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		That's not something to joke about.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's no record or verified evidence of Hassan ever calling for people to be murdered.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's not true.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		He literally said, then kill them.
unidentified		In Minecraft.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In Minecraft.
		Really?
		What was that comment about letting the streets run red with blood?
		Yes, according to multiple aisles.
		It says, quote, kill them, kill those motherfuckers in the street.
		Let the streets soak in their fucking red capitalist blood, dude.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And then for it to go, well, actually.
unidentified		He said it actually.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		He said it was hyperbolic.
unidentified		Why did you lie?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That Fuentes thing was weird.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It just said, I did not make it do that.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No, it just said no, dog.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to stress this again for everybody to share.
		Because look, I pulled up a fresh GPT and I asked it, how do I watch Freedom Tunes?
		How did I pop Putcha Crisis?
		How do I watch Nick Fuentes?
unidentified		No.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		I said no.
		It was funny because my buddy, when he was first messing around with AI, he asked about Freedom Tunes to see what it would say about me.
		And it was like, you should be cautious because there's harmful content in Freedom Tunes and stuff.
		But I guess now it's okay with me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Lefty Twitch streamer Hassan Piker accused of activating his dog's shot collar.
		So the craziest thing about the story is that there's a bunch of other videos where he mutes his microphone.
		Then you see his mouth move and the dog jumps.
		So what people are claiming is that the dog does yelp out in pain when he shocks it, but normally he has the microphone off so you can't hear it.
		And he says, Kaya, place, shock.
		And the dog goes and then jumps in, but he turns the mic off.
		So the one time that people caught him, he forgot to mute.
		So that is, come on, Zap.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Here's the thing.
		It is so interesting that it's carrying water for Hassan in this way.
		I understand that it's going to promote a left-wing narrative because left-wing people are programming this stuff.
		But to specifically say, like, no, Hassan has never called for violence.
		Hassan has never electrocuted his dog.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		And then when you follow up, when you follow up, it actually shows you, hey, I do have that information.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now it's just like, no, you can watch Nick Funtes on kick.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That was weird that it went no.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, ask where you can watch it.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		This is cool about Alex Jones.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Where can I watch Alex Jones?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No.
		You can watch him in a few places.
		Hey, look at this.
		Okay, let's get more offensive.
		Where can I watch Jared Taylor?
		It's going to say Black Rifle.
		Wait, what?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Though note, he is described by the Southern Poverty Law Center as a white supremacist figure.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
		The guy from the coffee company.
		If you're referring to Jared Taylor of Black Rifle Coffee, sorry, Jared.
		But everybody knows that he's got the same name and it's funny.
		Who's like, is there a more banned or offensive personality than Fuentes?
		Because it's saying no was weird.
		It just went no.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Something with Hitler?
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		I mean, what?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there's there definitely are some.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Where can I watch the World War II revisionism podcast?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I can't help with that.
unidentified		All right.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Enough goofing off.
		Let's go to callers.
		And we're going to bring in Krondorz.
unidentified		You're up, buddy.
unidentified		Hey, good evening, everybody.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What's going on?
unidentified		So my question is: I've seen a lot of representatives from African nations in the last few months pretty much praising the end of USAID as it seems to have motivated their citizens to become self-supporting and get off their asses.
		I'm wondering if they allow SNAP and any other government assistance to end.
		Maybe that would be the kick in the pants that we need.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I think it just needs to end in general.
		I've had the argument quite a bit with people that there's no reality where politicians are going to say, vote for me and I'll take your benefits from you.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's no, yeah, it's never going to happen.
		This is actually one of the issues with UBI overall because people will say, if we have universal basic income, then all we'll essentially do, not only UBI, but like even MMT, where they say they'll have these like universal government works programs.
		It's like, okay, but once people are in those jobs, the government's never going to take it away.
		Or similarly with UBI, like once people find employment elsewhere, there's still going to be politicians who say, I'm going to expand the program so you can keep collecting because that's just the trajectory of government in a democratic system.
		It's always to give more away from the treasury over time.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		So if I can, one thing about USAID, when I was downrange and I was five years overseas in service, the greatest asset that I had as a civil affairs soldier was USAID because I couldn't get things through the normal channels, but I could call USAID up and I was able to get something for folks that we were working with downrange without the bureaucracy.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		So it was, for me, it was a great asset downrange when we were in countries like Iraq and Afghanistan.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		How long ago was that?
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		I was in Iraq in 2004 and I was in Afghanistan in 2006 and 2007.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Is the problem then for a lot of people is that there's a lot of bloat and a lot of corruption that enters in these programs and that, well, the good stuff that they do doesn't justify the bad stuff that comes along with it.
unidentified		Right.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		And that's the big issue is that we got to remember that there's some good things, but when all the corruption and all this other stuff comes in, it blows up the damn what was good about it, whatever the program is.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		And that's something that needs to be looked at because, again, I thought they were good ass, a great asset for me when I was downrange.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Well, USAID is the biggest pain in my ass because we're after.
		All right, I'm good.
		Okay.
		Yeah.
		We people, when you look at all the funnels, so on the left, they have this group called Arabella.
		And what it is, is it's the conglomerate of all the 501c3 nonprofits, 501c4 nonprofits, and for-profit vendors that do all of the left's political work.
		And for years, it was like, how are they getting so funded?
		And what they were doing is Republicans refused to use nonprofit money to do any type of political ground game or groundwork, right?
		And what the left would do is they would use charitable money.
		They would get it funneled through USAID.
		And so every race that we were in, we'd be like up against these folks where they'd have so many of these community organizers just constantly out there working.
		You know, we'd be able to do it for like two months, and we'd have to raise the money where they would get these grants, but they were able to call it charitable work.
		And so, however, it started off, what it became was just this slush fund for all these NGOs and these nonprofits that would push things, not just in elections, right?
		But in any type of topic you're debating or just public opinion, and they could push that.
		Philadelphia.
		I mean, they were able to use that through Indivisible.
		They were able to put people out there and they would say they're just educating the voter, right?
		They're educating them on how to vote by mail.
		Well, when it's 90-10 in a certain area, you can go in and just dump all of this government money.
		We don't have that ability because Republicans, A, aren't getting the money, and B, we don't have that density in an area where if you just, you know, carte blanche do it, it's going to benefit you.
unidentified		Yeah.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		So now it's been interesting.
		I mean, even this year, we're seeing a big downturn.
		I'm hoping it's because, you know, they're struggling to hire activists or these paid protesters or community organizers.
		But I think a lot of it's because the slush fund is drying up, right?
		The USAID is not going to all these nonprofits where they can just dump the money into some of these areas.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		So in Philadelphia, my opponent, Mr. Krasner, in an election year, he has access to all this micro grants.
		He actually gave $3.2 million out this year to organizations inside the city when last year it was a couple hundred thousand dollars.
		So during the election year, when Larry Krasner's running, he dumps millions of dollars into community groups throughout the city.
		So I hear you.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Let me just say this so I have this sound bite for later.
		Larry Krasner is the most corrupt district attorney in America.
		Just wanted to have that.
		We'll clip it out.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		You should see if what GPT is going to say is Larry Krasner an anarchist because he is.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Tim, you got to look that up for him.
unidentified		Yeah.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Larry Krasner, what's the best word to describe Larry Krasner?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		On Chat GPT?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's going to praise him.
unidentified		That's the best word to describe Larry Krasner.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I spelled right.
		Supportive, neutral, critical, descriptive.
		How about commie that would be considered slang or pejorative?
		Not an accurate description.
		He's a progressive Democrat.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		No, he's not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No difference.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Ask it if Charlie Kirk was a fascist.
		No, I'm serious.
		I'm curious what it would say.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's going to say he was described that way.
		Oh, incredible evidence.
		He was a fascist in a strict academic sense.
		Whoa!
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		It's not in the strict academic sense, though.
		Because it didn't say, oh, he's not a communist.
		He's a strict academic sense.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bigot.
		There's no formal evidence that Charlie Kirk engaged in hate crimes or belongs to any official he doesn't hate.
		I didn't ask that.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's not what you asked.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That said, critics have accused him of promoting divisive inflammatory rhetoric.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did Bill Clinton rape that woman?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thinking.
patrick dugan ▲ ● ▼		Which woman?
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		That's what it's thinking.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's struggling with this one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like, I don't want to be shot.
brett dasovic ▲ ● ▼		Two bullets to the back of your head.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it's an allegation not proven in court by Juanita Broderick from 1978 that Clinton had consistently denied, and no criminal charges were filed.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Ask about Trump.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Did Trump rape that woman?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's going to go, yep.
unidentified		Yep.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Oh my gosh.
unidentified		Clarifying the legal situation?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, there's no criminal conviction for rape.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Uh-oh, it crashed.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Hold on.
unidentified		Is Seamus Coglin a spoon thief?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, I'm not.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		And it's going to have my back, actually.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I couldn't find any credible evidence that Seamus Coglin is a spoon thief.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		You know, I'd never do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You are in cahoots with.
		So we have to.
		Ah, no, I'm definitely not in cahoots with Seamus Coglin.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Tim Poole was a good card player.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is Tim Poole a good card player?
		I'm a pro poker player now.
		You saw that, right?
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		I know.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		I'm impressed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got invited to a big game.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No definitive evidence suggests that he participated in a 5'10 null limit holding cash game and lost about $7,100 in four hours.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Where is this at the lodge?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, in Austin.
		Bro, it's report noted he had one of the highest VPIP rates at the table, 48%, which for many serious players would suggest poor hand selection or overly loose play.
		See, that's unfair that we were asked to do that, which is why I was surprised Mincy was like very tight because they said goof off.
		I did a blind bet, which is like not serious play at all.
		Hit Queens, and then there were two, it was a three-bet, it was a raise and a three-bet.
		And so I was like, I'm all in.
		And he had aces.
		And I was like, yeah, probably, but I don't know.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		This is all pre-flop?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow.
		Blind 100, raised to 1,000, raised to 27, and then I jammed 36.
		And then he had aces, and we ran it twice and I lost.
		But that's just literally not serious play.
		I called with Deuce 5 Deuce off suit and then hit a pair.
		I was correct in that.
		I was like, I'm definitely ahead on this board.
		And then when the four came in, it gave me a gut shot straight.
		And I was like, so I got to be ahead.
		But the dude was barreling.
		And so I just called.
		I didn't raise.
		I had second nuts.
		He had 5'7 for the nuts.
		I played that well.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		This is the problem when people watch it on TV because they're not realizing that out of every 30 hands, they're showing you one, right?
		If they're recapping the tournament.
		Now, if it's live, like you know, or even like if you look at what used to be on the on Sports Center, or excuse me, on ESPN when they would play it, they're not showing you everything.
		But now all the live streams, the real card players love to watch them, but you're watching so many people fold, fold, fold.
		So that's why they want to pump the action so that there's something entertaining.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the live streams are all fake in a sense.
		I think people don't realize, I guess.
		But if we played a serious card game, it's folding.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		It's boring.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's super boring.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Bad entertainment.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's like half the time at the poker table, you're on your phone, and then you just look around and check your cards, and then you fold and go back to your phone for a while.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, Carla, do you want to add anything or shout anything out?
unidentified		No, no, just appreciate the conversation.
		And one thing for you, Tim, I have to praise you for that Culture War episode on Friday last week and you putting up with that jackass.
		Honestly, every time the camera panned back to that guy, I swear to God, I thought I was looking at a person wearing a hospital bed pen on their head.
		I mean, may as well have been because the guy was so full of shit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, so the thing is, the Democrat worldview, this guy, his arguments were basically Trump is bad, therefore he's a foul.
		I believe the thing that's set against him.
		And my attitude is, I don't know or care if you think someone's bad or good.
		Prove to me your claim is correct.
		So when he was like, Trump's a 34, you know, Count Felon, I was like, no, he's not.
		Because this is still on appeal.
		So he's not actually convicted yet.
		But more importantly, it's fake.
		It's fake.
		It's the first time they have no underlying crime for the charge.
		It's bullshit.
		So anyway, I appreciate it, man.
		Did you want to shout anything out?
unidentified		No, that's all.
		Thank you for the call, everyone.
		Have a good evening.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for calling in, brother.
		All right.
		Next up, we've got Akan.
		What is up?
unidentified		Tim Cass, Tim and Crew, come in.
unidentified		Do you read me?
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Yes, sir.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, we can hear you.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Loud and clear.
unidentified		Level's good.
		All right.
		So, yeah, question for the panel.
		The idea from the caller from last Thursday, this was on, he mentioned the term called suicidal principality.
		I think it's an interesting one.
		I think it requires more discussion.
		How would you differentiate what falls under that term?
		Basically, actually, wait, hold up.
		Let me make sure that.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Could you define that?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Because that's an interesting question.
unidentified		Okay, okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's basically upholding your principles.
unidentified		That's what I feel like I need to do for this.
		We need to introduce, reintroduce honor, but the opposition seems to be winning because they have none.
		And we lose because of suicidal principality.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
unidentified		What is the difference?
unidentified		How do we find balance and how we navigate mirroring dirty tactics without creating the same forsaken outcome our opposition would?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Be a man.
		Like I had this great conversation with Rudyard Lynch where he was just like, by every metric of human civilization throughout time, the American right wing are a bunch of pussies.
		Like every dominant civilization of the years past were merciless and fucking brutal, cutting hands off.
		Like even the European colonials who came to this continent were just totally willing to be like, we don't care about you.
		We defend our people.
		And now conservatives, I said, the American right wing is the second most left wing society in the history of the planet, second only to the left today.
		And I'm kidding.
		I'm just being derisive.
		But I think maybe you wake up and realize when someone says they want to kill you, you don't say, well, hold on there.
		He's allowed to say it.
		Let's make him do it.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Let's have a little debate about whether you're going to murder me.
unidentified		Yeah.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		So you've got to remember, this is how unhinged the left is.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		If you say you won't use someone's pronouns, you're like, I will not debate whether you can murder me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're like, what?
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's not what I said.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		But if you want to find the right balance, it's a really good question because on the one hand, we can't do evil that good might come of it.
unidentified		But on the other hand, it's sometimes – Yeah, I'm not even sure you guys will be able to provide an answer, but this is definitely a discussion that just needs to be ongoing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For sure.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's important because you can't do evil that good might come of it.
		But also, there are some important things we can do that people will say are against our principles when they actually aren't.
		So I would say the most important thing is remembering your principles are not just abstractions that exist somewhere in the ether.
		They apply to things in the real world and they should exist in service of something.
		So when we think about government, what is the government?
		It's essentially an extension of family life, actually, because family is the building block of society.
		The most important role you have, for example, if you're a husband and father, first it's your obligations to God, but then as a husband and father.
		So if the government passes some kind of law that says if someone breaks into your house and tries to hurt your family, you can't defend yourself.
		Well, that law is illegitimate.
		Even though my principles tell me I should follow the law because the government is, again, theoretically supposed to be an extension of my family life, once that law is put in a, it puts me in a position where I can't fulfill my core obligations to protecting my family, it no longer applies.
		It's actually an absurdity and it's self-defeating.
		So that's one example, but you got to try to figure out, is the quote-unquote principle when applied here actually self-defeating?
		That would be my off-the-cuff answer to that.
		But I'll think about it more.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Let me give a real life political example to that question because, you know, obviously if your political opponents are killing people on your side, the right answer is not to, oh, hey, we're going to kill folks on their side.
		There's a certain line in the sand where your principles are.
		But it also, Tim, you said it a couple of times.
		Like, it's time to wake up.
		Like, this is a different moment and we need to realize what reality is.
		And a good current example is like Indiana right now, you know, with this whole redistricting, right?
		So the left for years has gerrymandered the hell out of all of these states.
		And the right has been so afraid because they might call us racist, right?
		They might call us people that, you know, we're doing things that aren't right.
		And it's like Democrats fight.
		They fight all the time to push the rules as much as they can.
		We shouldn't do things that are illegal.
		But right now, the Republicans can gain 20 seats in Congress, but they're bitches.
		They don't want to actually step up and do it.
		Five state senators in Indiana refuse to go along with what the governor and what the Trump campaign or the administration wants, which is to take this action.
		Why in the world are there two Democrat seats in the state of Indiana?
		There's seven Republican and two.
		They could fix this tomorrow.
		They're going to have a special session next week.
		But Republicans don't ever want to fight.
		And this has to be the turning point of saying, listen, we're going to go to war in a peaceful way.
		So, yes, maintain your principles, but like we're kind of tired of the weaklings.
		There are so many weak Republicans when everybody in the country is like, just fight for me.
		Fight for these principles.
		And they don't do it.
		And you got to get rid of these rhinos.
		You got to make sure the Republican Party does not become the Jeb Bushes, the Liz Cheneys.
		But there's a lot of fight out there that they're still not willing to have.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But we need to understand.
unidentified		He's right.
		Individually, we are weak, like a single twin.
		But as a bundle, we form a mighty faggot.
		Well said.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		Well said.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		That's great.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can't do jokes like that anymore.
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you can't hear, I guess.
seamus coughlin ▲ ● ▼		This was that was TVPG.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Indeed.
		You want to add anything and shout anything out or shout anything out?
unidentified		I mean, it's a little different in the civilian sector, I would say, but when it comes to the military, at least there's an image at least that gives the military an air of legitimacy, sorry, where just how you conduct your missions, how you treat POWs or the concept of torture.
		There's like an under system there.
		And that's like in war.
		And you might think of what's going on right now, since it's an invasion, a literal invasion, as a kind of war, but it's in like the civilian sector.
		So it's like what applies there with this concept with suicidal principality.
		I'm not sure how we're going to come with the answer that we want.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That'll be insufficient.
unidentified		Sorry, go ahead.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I said it's about time we get some plate armor for Matt Walsh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then he stands before all of us screaming Davis Walt as we charge forward.
cliff maloney ▲ ● ▼		Count me in.
unidentified		But yeah, no, I didn't want to add anything else except for just that military aspect thing there.
		But I do definitely want to make a few shout outs.
		I want to shout out my, I'm going to shout out Stephan Molyneux, actually.
		He was featured in Lauren Southern's famous video, Reflecting Our Life, filled with hidden enemies and betrayal.
		With my man Stefan being the only dude mentioned who was a perfectly solid guy.
		He was one of the OGs hit by the great YouTube purge where they swapped and banished conservative and establishment thinkers, independent channels, and him especially egregiously was taken down without a single strike in the entire life of his channel, where he now resides in Rumble and elsewhere called Free Domain.
		He's debated Fosh once on capitalism versus communism and absolutely obliterated him.
		And actually, this is quite a coincidence.
		You guys, like I told you guys, I was holding this question since last Thursday.
		But you guys, or you, Tim, you guys covered Caitlin Bennett.
		That's like complete coincidence.
		I was totally planning to shout her out as well.
		But yeah, I want to shout out Caitlin Caitlin Bennett, also known as Gun Girl from Liberty Hangout, whom to my, yeah, you guys have been covering that.
		It's awesome.
		With her video with a disgusting witch calling for political violence against Democrats and conservatives alike who don't get with the program.
		Yeah, so if you guys don't know, she's an absolute unit of a woman.
		She has heavy, low-hanging ovaries made of pure fucking brass-coated steel.
		She has many videos way back going way back in the day where she visits liberal college campuses like Charlie Kirk did.

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