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Oct. 28, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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FOOD STAMPS OVER, Ending Nov 1, Food RIOTS May Spark Trump INSURRECTION ACT | Timcast IRL
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blake brick suit marnell
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tim pool
My friends, what do you think would happen if come November 1st, snap benefits, food stamps, run dry and no one receives any money?
Speculation right now is that it would lead to food riots.
Videos are popping up of people claiming they will begin looting stores instantly.
One woman says they're not just going to loot stores.
They're going to wait outside for you with your groceries and they're going to steal your entire cart of groceries.
The Trump administration is warning right now that by November 1st, there will be no SNAP benefits.
And right now, if you type in the phrase, this is not a joke, is they into Google, the first recommended search term is, quote, is they cutting food stamps, end quote.
I am not joking.
I'm not trying to insult or be derisive.
This is a fact.
And there are concerns now that this could lead to food riots.
42 million people.
Some are speculating that from this, Trump will invoke the Insurrection Act and move in and take control of certain jurisdictions.
I don't know for sure, but let me just tell you: 42 million people don't get food stamps.
Big box stores are going to lose billions of dollars.
It is going to be an economic and political nuclear detonation.
So for those that say nothing ever happens, they may still be right because I cannot fathom a reality where the Trump administration could allow such a thing to happen.
I mean, the political blowback, the economic implosion, it's not just going to affect people who receive welfare.
We have created a whole sector of our economy predicated upon taking tax money from one group, sending it to another, so that they can then buy from these stores and the money loops back around.
What happens when 42 million people stop buying food all at once?
It's going to be very, very interesting.
Now, on top of that, we're hearing that air traffic controllers are about to miss a full paycheck, and there's already concern with the government shutdown where this goes.
So I don't know.
Maybe.
Maybe it gets that bad.
On top of all the weird economic stuff, some guy got arrested for putting a bounty out on Pam Bandi.
There's a guy who attacked a TPUSA person with a hockey stick.
And things are generally just still crazy.
But let me tell you, this government shutdown food stamp snap benefit thing.
Oh boy, this is going to be big.
We'll get to that and more.
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We've got the brick suit.
blake brick suit marnell
Great to be back.
tim pool
I put a the in front of it.
blake brick suit marnell
That's all right.
You know, Mr. Wall, brick suit, it's all good.
I answer.
tim pool
Who are you?
unidentified
What do you do?
blake brick suit marnell
Well, I'm an accidental political activist kind of thing.
And I'm, you know, a huge supporter of President Trump, huge supporter of border integrity for our country, because if your country does not have borders, you don't have a country.
That's an evergreen issue.
And that's something I'm always going to be focusing on.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Thanks for joining us, Mr. Wall.
Shane's here.
shane cashman
What's up?
I am Shane Cashman, host of InvertWorld Live.
Tonight, I will be going live at 10 o'clock on Rumble and YouTube to talk about an open letter signed by 700 scientists and faith leaders saying that we are running out of time when it comes to super intelligent AI and that we need to figure out a way to stop it from crushing humanity.
It reminds me a lot of the Great Barrington Declaration that happened before the lockdowns.
We'll be talking about that.
tim pool
Did you see that chart that showed AI content by year?
shane cashman
No.
tim pool
And how it's 99.9% human.
And then it's like as time goes on, it gets to around like 2021 and it jumps up.
And now we're at 50-50.
shane cashman
Yeah, I know a lot of articles are more AI.
Oh, we're there.
We're there.
So we'll see you.
tim pool
Tate's here.
tate brown
What is going on, everyone?
Tate Brown here, holding it down.
I'm glad you're here because I am also a border enthusiast.
I'm a deportation enthusiast.
Ice love it all.
So we'll get into it.
blake brick suit marnell
Excellent.
seamus coughlin
My name is Seamus Coughlin.
I'm the creator of Freedom Tunes.
I've produced over 600 animated videos over the course of the last 11 years.
We've amassed a million subscribers and 290 million views, all with zero dollars spent on marketing, because we need to produce culture if we're going to win the culture war.
As it currently stands, the left owns entertainment media in this country, and we need to fight back.
We need to create culture and we need to compete with Hollywood.
And that's why I've launched Twisted Plots.
It's a TV-length animated show.
It's going to be created by myself and my team.
It's very highly entertaining.
We've already got the pilot finished, which you can see if you go to twistedplots.com and donate.
We launched three weeks ago.
We've raised over 50% of our gold to be able to produce our first season, but we've only got three weeks left to produce the other half of our budget to raise that other half.
So I need you guys to go over to twistedplots.com and support us if you want to help us create the future of entertainment and if you want that future to be right-wing.
tim pool
And if you see as I see and would seek as I seek, then go to twistedplans.com and contribute to the project today.
seamus coughlin
Twistedplots.com.
tim pool
Twisted plots.
What did I say, plans?
seamus coughlin
Twisted plans.
tim pool
All right, let's talk about the news.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is one of the most stories in the history of our country.
This is one of the biggest stories of our generation.
Trump admin warns 42 million Americans could lose food stamps as shutdown drags on.
The USDA is warning that SNAP funds will run dry starting November 1st.
And my reaction?
unidentified
I don't care.
tim pool
Okay, anyway, you get the point.
Now, I know there are a lot of people that do rely on this.
So I'm only half kidding when I say I don't care.
I love it.
The Trump administration is warning millions of Americans could lose it on federal food benefits within days if Democrats do not accept Republicans' plan to end the government shutdown.
The USDA said it does not have the ability to independently reshuffle funds into the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, commonly known as food stamps, according to a recent memo obtained by Fox News Digital.
Due to Congressional Democrats' refusal to pass a clean continuing resolution, approximately 42 million individuals will not receive their SNAP benefits come November 1st.
This jeopardizes all SNAP recipients in November, including those that have applied for benefits in the last half of October and furloughed federal employees who will not receive their combined October-November benefits.
And this is not a joke, my friends.
If you go to google.com and type in the words, is they, the first thing that pops up is quote, is they cutting food stamps.
Brick Wall, Mr. Brickman or whatever, showed me Bricksuit.
Mr. Bricksuit Man.
He showed me just before the show.
He's like, look, this is legit.
And I pulled it up and it really is.
And guys, as part of me wants it to happen because for too long, too many people in this country have just suckled off the teat of Uncle Sam.
However, I do understand there are real Americans that desperately rely on this for legitimate reasons.
So it's a rock in a hard place.
I can't imagine Trump or anyone allows this to happen because if 42 million people can't buy food all around the exact same time, you are going to see the margins of every major box store and grocery store drop significantly.
It may only be a couple percentage points, but enough that these stores have stocked their shelves to compensate for welfare purchasers.
If those people stop showing up, there will be a certain degree of waste and excess.
These supermarkets will lose money.
They will order less.
They will say, okay, we got to throw this out.
No matter what happens, there will be a surplus in the immediate.
So they'll order less.
The manufacturers, the distributors are going to start shipping less.
It is going to be a snapback tsunami in the economy across the board, everywhere.
I don't know how they let this happen.
blake brick suit marnell
And profit margins in the grocery sector are just phenomenally low.
People are 20%.
I mean, it's just like it's an incredibly low margin business because they can plan it that way because you basically know people need to eat.
They're going to buy this.
It's going to be cyclical patterns of like, you know, food, different food categories may happen at different times of the year, but you've got to keep buying food.
You've got to keep buying the staples.
And any interruption of that is going to just trickle back up and it's going to be hard to get that engine started again.
It's not like, it's not like you can just stop the food economy on a dime and then two weeks later ramp up the production again.
shane cashman
When egg prices were crazy high at the end of last year, people were stealing storage containers or giant shipping containers of eggs out of Pennsylvania.
seamus coughlin
Oh, yeah.
Sorry, go ahead.
shane cashman
No, I was just going to say, so I just think hunger and desperation is going to lead to violence rioting.
It's not going to be pretty.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
I mean, you mentioned grocery stores have low profit margins.
It's true.
They're razor-thinnet.
Something like three cents of every dollar spent at the grocery store is actual profit for the company.
They're very, very low margins.
As you mentioned, they rely on the fact that people need to eat food.
This is part of why government-run grocery stores don't work because no bureaucrat is competent or concerned enough to account for 3% in waste.
But that 3% is what allows for the grocery store to be possible.
And so you're right.
The price dynamic has been distorted over the past several decades by food stamps, essentially.
And some people really do need them.
But the important thing to remember is that a price is not just an incentive.
It's information.
It tells you what you should stock your store with.
It tells you what people are reliably going to buy.
We don't know how much of what's currently purchased is only purchased because of EBT.
So it's really difficult for these stores to do any kind of economic calculation without that.
tim pool
I want it to happen.
Sorry.
I mean.
Well, look, look, look, I understand.
Easy for me to say, I'm not going to go hungry.
My family's not going to go wanting.
And so that's where I'm torn on this because there are real people out there that get these benefits because they need them.
Real hardworking families that are struggling to make ends meet, maybe through no fault of their own.
And this was what the program was supposed to do.
The problem is the program itself has become a cancer on our economic system.
And there are too many people who intentionally manipulate the system for free money out of the good, hardworking Americans' pocket.
And so the issue is, in all things, cutting yourself off from the addiction is going to suck.
It's going to hurt.
And there's nothing you can do to stop it.
But continuing the improper medication or the addicting drug is only going to make it worse.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Well, yeah, beyond that, like, well, for one, 42 million, that means one in eight Americans is on SNAP benefits.
That's ridiculous.
Beyond that, like, this is the problem with welfare, broadly speaking, is that it's a feedback jammer because it's like the signs that a society sends to itself, like these normal signs that a society uses to correct itself, get jammed with welfare and you're not able to actually address these issues.
tim pool
So, you know, I'm curious, Seamus, do you think that for a lot of people that rely on benefits, they could turn to their churches?
seamus coughlin
It's a difficult question.
I mean, I would hope so.
It depends on the church and it depends on the area.
I know that a number of food pantries have closed.
I know that there was one at least that closed in 2020 near where I lived at the time.
And the issue here with all of this is there are some number of people who really do need the assistance.
I mean, I don't think anyone is denying that.
There's some number of people who really do need food stamps.
They're not going to be able to survive.
They're not going to be able to pay for themselves.
But in part, it's because the infrastructure has been built up.
Like Tim asked the question, would churches be able to feed them?
Well, I don't know how prepared churches are relative to how prepared they need to be because this subsidy of food stamps has existed for so long.
And I'm just, I'm going to say it.
blake brick suit marnell
I've no idea that they could be ready.
Not they can't be ready.
seamus coughlin
Not for this number of people.
No, no, no.
But in terms of people who like really genuinely need it.
Again, I've known a number of people who were receiving welfare benefits through the course of my life.
Some people were people, I was like, this person 100% needs it.
They have a disability.
They're seriously poor.
There's no way they're going to be able to provide for themselves.
I've also known people who it's like, you didn't, you didn't need it.
Like this guy didn't need it.
So ultimately, I think it's really important for a government to be more discerning about who gets it.
Shutting the spigot off all at once, as everyone here has mentioned, can cause some serious problems.
But something does have to happen.
shane cashman
I feel bad for the single parent households that don't abuse it.
But obviously, this is a generational problem.
tim pool
Yes, they shouldn't.
shane cashman
They abuse it.
tim pool
They shouldn't exist.
And I'm not saying that single parents, you know, in some extreme fashion should be taken from their like their kids or whatever.
I'm saying our society should not have created a mechanism by which single parent households can be easily, well, I don't want to say attain.
That's not the right word, but like viable.
unidentified
Where it's viable, it's going to break a marriage.
tim pool
Exactly.
It needed to be that it was an impossibility.
No fault divorce has been a big problem.
The welfare system, it has made it so that there are circumstances where instead of people getting married and having functioning families where they have their kids and they're watching their kids, they say, you know what?
I'm unhappy.
So instead of making it work for what is right, I'm going to use the court system, break it apart, and then get on welfare benefits for my kids.
shane cashman
Talking about widows mostly, but like, I think the government has incentivized this situation with single parents.
So, like, they've married these people to the government and now they need this.
blake brick suit marnell
I must be unrung.
tim pool
I'm sorry.
I got to read this Ready through Rumble Super Chat.
He said, cutting food stamps right before Christmas and Thanksgiving.
Yeah.
If this, this is why I'm like, dude, it's not going to happen.
They've got they're going to intervene somehow.
blake brick suit marnell
They've got a little bit of wiggle room in there.
I'm not sure if this is true in every state, but some states, like, they don't all roll out all the benefits on the first.
So it's like on the first, if your card ends in a one, your benefits load up.
On the second, if it ends in a two, it loads up.
So there, there could be a little bit of some wiggle room in there.
They don't have to do it all by the first, but if it goes any significant amount of time, it's just, it's not going to be good at all.
tate brown
And we saw with the military paychecks that the private individuals are willing to foot the bill.
And I mean, if it's true, like a lot, I mean, it is true that like a lot of these grocery stores run razor-thin margins.
You have to think the execs at Kroger, the execs at Walmart are having conversations right now of like, all right, how much money do we need to chuck at this to keep it going for another two weeks?
Because, yeah, the government, like you were saying, has distributed the cost of dysfunction onto the productive class.
That's why we're having this conversation.
It's like, are these churches ready?
Or, you know, is the Salvation Army ready?
tim pool
It's like, that's the way it used to be.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, but can I throw some out there?
Well, this is another really important part of this dynamic, which is the way the food stamp program works in this country is that you're able to go buy the kinds of foods that everyone else is able to buy.
I know RFK added some stipulations, which I think are good.
Yeah, I totally support it.
But when we talk about like, our church is going to be able to feed these people.
Now, in the best case scenario, you could say maybe what's able to happen is these churches are able to get inexpensive foods like rice and beans, et cetera, and feed people who are genuinely starving.
But the idea that the churches could ever be capable of supplying, you know, 10% of the country with all of the highly processed, more expensive foods that people have been consuming on food stamps, that's almost certainly impossible.
tim pool
There's so many people, Wright through Rumble said, Tim will cut your food stamps right before Christmas and thinks he's the good guy.
LOL.
Wow.
Yep, I am.
And what I find in these liberals is they're short-term thinkers.
They don't plan ahead.
They don't plan for winter.
And these systems that have been built by these people have been gutting and destroying this country.
And now we're at the rock in the hard place position where maybe, maybe we need to do it now to avoid a long fall later.
I don't like the idea that people get this ripped out from underneath them, a rug pull at the last minute.
But the idea that we have so many government systems that have been exploited and abused for decades from people who know they're exploiting and abusing the system, it's unsustainable.
Every single day, the socialists say we deserve more of what you work for.
At some point, you can't take from someone who has nothing left.
At a certain point, you take too much and people stop working.
This system's unsustainable.
Zorin Mandani is in New York saying, and I love this.
We're going to make the buses free and we're going to make the buses faster.
And I got a question for you guys.
Why are the buses slow in New York?
Does anybody know?
shane cashman
Oh, yeah, because they're weapons of mass destruction and there's too many cars and people.
tim pool
So, okay, so hold on.
He said the buses, we have the slowest buses in the country.
So that kind of implies it's not an issue of traffic.
Because traffic for traffic, he's saying the buses are slow.
unidentified
Why aren't they going faster?
I haven't seen it.
tim pool
But could it be some kind of perhaps there's a limit on the bus of some sort?
shane cashman
Because of science, you mean?
tim pool
Could there be a limit on the speed of the bus relative to all vehicles in the city?
Anyone out there?
shane cashman
If you're driving in New York City, you know the buses don't go slow.
I mean, you have to watch out for the buses.
They're crazy.
tim pool
It's the insane things these people say that mean nothing and make no sense.
Buses can go 60 miles an hour.
The reason why they don't in New York is because the speed limit is 25.
So he's like, we're going to make the buses faster.
And everyone cheers.
And he may as well say, Red Bullet gives you wings.
shane cashman
What I think he means is he's going to try to limit cars more in the city to free up space.
tim pool
I think what we're seeing here is, you know, he did an interview and he goes, yes, I'm going to tax people more.
He's like, because we deserve these programs.
It will never stop.
It will never stop.
And when you do this, what happens is less and less people will work to put into a system and they will seek to extract from it until eventually the people who produce the system say, I'm done and I'm leaving.
blake brick suit marnell
Oh, yeah.
That's been happening.
Anybody who can get out is going to want to get out.
And I'm sure there are people who've already left because they're looking at it like, if it doesn't happen this time, it's going to happen at some time.
So there's always, you know, there's always a prime window for you to get out and maximize your gain.
Everybody's trying to sell at once.
That's going to be bad.
shane cashman
About 1 million people left New York City in the 70s when they were trying to climb out of bankruptcy and taxing everyone into oblivion.
It'll happen again.
tim pool
Let's jump to this tweet.
We got this from American Papa Bear.
Here's some food for thought.
When EBT recipients no longer have free government money coming in as of November 1st, rather than them stealing from the store directly, someone thinks they're going to be waiting in the parking lot to steal from you as you go to your car.
All I can say is try that in a small town.
Stay strapped and stay vigilant out there, patriots.
Listen to this.
This woman makes actually a pretty good point.
heather mcghee
And people are going to start.
I'm telling you, this is going to be a thing.
People are going to start, instead of stealing groceries from the stores, they're going to start watching people go to their cars and they're going to take all of their groceries.
unidentified
And you know what the store is going to do?
heather mcghee
Not our problem.
Not our business.
tim pool
And they're correct.
heather mcghee
It's outside the store.
tim pool
Not if it's on their private.
heather mcghee
They don't do it in the store.
It's not our property.
tim pool
If it's that hard.
heather mcghee
Call the authorities.
Make a report.
They're going to leave your ass for dead.
And people are really going to.
tim pool
I'm just going to.
What?
Why?
Am I supposed to call the supermarket for help when someone's robbing me?
seamus coughlin
Well, all right.
tim pool
Wait, wait.
So a man's pointing a gun.
Shop and save.
unidentified
Help.
What?
tim pool
Oh, man.
Let me play more stuff.
heather mcghee
I'm telling you.
tim pool
So I actually agree with her.
And then we have this from Just Loki says, food stamps run out, riots, insurrection act.
It can't be that easy.
And they got this tweet that says, we are out of band-aids and duct tape.
Democrats, stop this madness.
And then he has this post where he says, looming food riots, a communist insurgency in New York City, and patriotic WASP industrialists supporting the federal imposition of law and order.
I can autism spiral about that for a while.
This must be what 1905 felt like.
I'm just going to say this.
If 42 million people can't buy food all at the same time, it's not that our concern is everyone's insane.
It's that a tiny percentage of this.
I mean, it's like one, let's say 1% of this cohort.
One, 420,000 people start smashing up grocery stores and stealing stuff, robbing people in the parking lots.
It's going to get absolutely insane.
So I said it before.
I'll say it again.
I cannot imagine a scenario where the Trump admin or even the Democrats allow this to happen.
But here's the thing: if Trump is truly playing a game of chicken, saying Democrats can vote yes on our budget whenever they want, I don't see Trump backing down.
Will Democrats?
tate brown
Well, it's bad news for the elderly because they depended on being Walmart greeters for all these years, but they're about to replace them with like Navy SELS.
It's going to be like Mad Max and the robots, but now it's bringing out my, you know, Oreo cereal.
I'm just getting jumped every time.
It's like, yo, can we get a greeter over here?
tim pool
It's going to be a Navy SEAL strapped next to a robot dog with a rifle on top.
And he's going to say, greetings.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
He's going to check your receipt and then just sprint out.
tim pool
Dog's going to follow you.
You know what you see?
You see that viral video from Burlington where they stop you at the front door and take a picture of your body?
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
You haven't seen this video?
tate brown
No.
tim pool
Oh, bro.
I got to pull this up for you guys.
Let me see if I can find out where this one is.
I asked the crew to pull it up for me.
blake brick suit marnell
I wouldn't be surprised if violence does start popping off places.
You might see some stores, some companies decide it's not worth it to open up.
And then you got a whole nother thing.
I was like, why are you going to open up your doors for business if you're going to expose your employees and actually your entire store to those type of losses?
They might just decide to keep the doors closed.
seamus coughlin
Well, yeah, this happens.
Grocery stores go, there's a lot of crime in this area.
Stuff gets stolen off, and we're not going to build a grocery store here.
We're not going to open a new location here.
And then lefties go, these are food deserts.
It's like, all right, well, if you don't want food deserts, you need law and order.
blake brick suit marnell
Right.
shane cashman
David Dorne was asked to defend his friend's place from riots.
And look what happened to David Dorne.
I mean, this is, I worry about that being the next step if it goes like this.
blake brick suit marnell
And that was televisions, right?
That was electronics.
shane cashman
That's like a pawn shop.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
blake brick suit marnell
So, I mean, that was not Staples.
This is like, this is like, this is going to be a whole nother class of things.
You know, this is going to be a whole look.
You know, I would say this 40 million cohort of Americans, they're not preppers.
tate brown
Yeah.
blake brick suit marnell
They don't have tubs of dehydrated food.
unidentified
Right.
blake brick suit marnell
They're not ready for this.
You know, they're not.
tate brown
And the private sector have an option.
And it's not hyperbole.
Like, we have a great example in South Africa.
Like, I was there recently, and you go to the grocery store, and the private sector does address these things.
There is like, you know, stopgaps in place.
But what it is, is there's dudes like locked and loaded standing outside of the grocery store to like maintain law and order.
And it's like, do we really want that in the United States?
I mean, that's in South Africa.
Like, do we really have to deal with that here?
And it's like, well, it could very well be.
shane cashman
I just, I do feel terrible for the people that are living paycheck to paycheck, not abusing the system.
And like Seamus was saying, I wish there was a way to discern to get rid of these people on the program who are abusing it and have been abusing it for years.
tate brown
Yeah, and just at every level.
That's what I said earlier.
It's just the government has distributed the cost of dysfunction onto the productive class, and they're not drilling down on the issue.
I mean, like Tim mentioned it, like, you know, fertility is being decoupled from productivity.
Like, that's going to accelerate every bad sort of dysgenic drift that we're seeing.
tim pool
Take a look at this video.
unidentified
Let them take a picture before you can answer my legislation.
tim pool
If you walk out in a different coat, I know, I think you're being tracked the whole way when you walk through these stores.
You guys have seen it.
You've seen what the Amazon stores are doing, where they've got 70 cameras in a tiny little 400 square foot space filming you in every possible direction.
And then one day they show up at your house, you get arrested.
seamus coughlin
Well, it's organizations.
We have all the technological infrastructure that we were able to build up from having a relatively productive, high-trust society at one point.
And even as society's become lower and lower trust, the snowball effect of that technological development has continued.
But now we have a low-trust society.
So all these very high-tech tools that are great when you're in a society where people don't need to watch each other all the time because they're trying to rob and screw each other over are going to be able to be, they exist and they're going to be put to use again, spying on everyone all the time.
shane cashman
It will be deployed.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
It already are.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
shane cashman
To a worse degree.
blake brick suit marnell
Just a little, like, are they going to rename the Patriot Act the Grocery Act?
tate brown
Because it's the little things that compound that just you don't notice when it's rolled out, but it just makes your life worse when it compounds.
Like, you go to a Walgreens and you got to wait for some employee to get deodorant.
Like I was at Walmart recently with the, and that you get, I carry my, got my basket.
I'm like, damn, there's a security tag on the basket.
I'm like, this is like probably a two, three dollar basket.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tate brown
Like, what is going on?
And it's like, the country just like sucks now, but and it all just compounds, and then your life just gets worse and worse.
You don't even notice it getting worse.
tim pool
So let me ask you guys, just, you know, how many of you want the benefits to just run dry instantly on November 1st?
shane cashman
I don't.
tim pool
You don't want them?
shane cashman
I want them to be stripped down from people who abuse it, but I do feel bad for the families.
I know there's a lot of people.
tim pool
But there's no way to do that way.
So considering there's no way to figure out who's abusing and who isn't, you're still okay with keeping it?
shane cashman
It's a hard one, dude.
I think of all these people who live paycheck to paycheck and people are suffering really bad.
tim pool
You think keep it, Bricksuit?
blake brick suit marnell
Not having it run out cold turkey is just not a good situation.
So if the government can find some way to fund it, creative financing, you know, it's going to be cheaper to keep it funded than to initiate the cure if violence breaks out.
seamus coughlin
Which is why I'm pretty much on the same page, which is why we have to remember this is the Democrats' fault for keeping the government shut down by not making a deal.
tim pool
So you guys think we have to keep it?
tate brown
Well, I think the USDA has some leverage now where they can actually start stripping off some of the excess.
unidentified
Sure, sure.
tim pool
But just here's the question.
Your option is keep it for all, $42 million as normal or shut it off.
What do you think?
tate brown
No, because I trust that.
blake brick suit marnell
Not keep permanently.
tim pool
I didn't say that.
shane cashman
Yeah, we should keep it.
tim pool
The option is right now.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
It's one or the other.
If they reopen government and fund it, it's going to stay exactly as it is with all of the abuse.
And if they shut it down, everybody's cut off.
I'm for cutoff.
tate brown
Yeah, well, my thing is.
tim pool
This is why I'll never be in politics because I will never be in politics because I have no problem saying your government has created a heroin addiction for your country.
It is destroying you.
And I know there are good people that will be negatively impacted by this, but we cannot continue to inject ourselves with an addictive drug that is burning us to the ground.
shane cashman
Are the politicians still right now?
blake brick suit marnell
In that case, I'm in.
shane cashman
No, I mean, oh, they're not being paid?
Well, can we rob the politicians?
I'm kidding.
blake brick suit marnell
In that case, I'm more like in favor of methadone.
Like, I'm not in favor of keeping addiction, but we can't go cold turkey and take the whole country just can't get off of these benefits in one fell swoop.
tim pool
It's impossible.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
You can completely agree.
Like, you need to do some kind of analysis firstly to make sure that there isn't a head of household who has a bunch of illegals living with them.
So the welfare is basically going illegal immigrants.
Like stuff like that has to be done immediately.
tim pool
No, but brother, it's so much worse than this.
There are people who have babies intentionally to expand their benefits.
But you're going to start crashing and they sell these benefits.
blake brick suit marnell
You're going to start crashing the food producers, and then those jobs are going to disappear.
And then that's going to be more strain on the system.
So it'll just be a cascading effect.
You know what I mean?
I don't think the economy is resilient enough to withstand a complete and total withdrawal of all the sites.
tim pool
I do not believe there is a reality where what you were asking for, which is the correct answer, is possible.
The methadone situation, where we say we are going to slowly start pulling back these benefits.
No matter what we do, there will always be people who are deserving of it getting taken away from and people who are manipulating it getting when they don't need it.
Correct.
In my lifetime, with everything I've seen, I don't see a political reality where you can stop these programs except in a way like this.
Because no politician, no Republican would stand up and say, I'll take away your benefits from you.
Not even Republicans can say.
In New York City, Curtis Sleewa, the Republican, said, Don't deport the illegal aliens.
That's what happens when you have these prolonged addictive systems.
Because Sleewa knows, if I say we got to deport illegal immigrants, I won't get a single vote.
That's what New York is right now.
So we keep playing this game of we'll figure it out down the road, we'll figure it out.
We never will.
Where are we with Democrats?
They're asking now for what, their fourth amnesty in 30 years.
And we had Brian Shapiro on the show and he says, I think it was Brian, Amnesty.
He says, we need to find a way for those that have been here for 20 years and are working to become citizens.
I said, again, for the fourth time.
But hold on.
What's the difference?
There's a guy who's been here for 20 years.
He works a normal job.
He's a good person.
He doesn't get benefits.
Why should we cut him off?
Now, there's a moral argument of he's not a citizen, so there's a line for us.
My argument is the same thing is true for this welfare system.
It is being exploited by a lot of really bad people, and the system itself is a cancer on our country.
I have no problem.
I'm actually very much in favor of EBT benefits, SNAP benefits, and welfare for most people.
But the way I've described it over and over again, imagine it like one day you got a cut on your arm.
So you cleaned it off and put a band-aid on it and then forgot about it.
A week later, it's starting to smell bad.
So what do you do?
You slap another band-aid right on top.
Starts to smell bad.
What do you do?
Another band-aid right on top.
And now someone says, yes, yes, but if you peel the bandaid off, it's going to pull all the necrotic flesh and it's injuring the arm.
And you're like, but if you keep doing this, you will die.
At some point, you've got to say, I'm sorry, but the system is broken.
Now, look, again, I understand.
I'm not in a position where I'm going to be one of these people who's cut off.
But I'll tell you the truth.
No politicians ever going to tell you the truth.
They're never going to admit to you that this is a fast track to the collapse of your society.
Your children will inherit a pile of ashes.
No one will ever say it.
They're going to tell you, don't worry, you're special, and I'll make sure you get your free stuff every effing time.
shane cashman
I think it's impossible to undo by design, too.
They wanted everyone on this program to make their political enemies look bad when we were like, we should end this.
When I talked earlier this year about how I was in favor of cutting sugar and soda from all this stuff, I mean, they were rioting in the comments.
I mean, it's unbelievable.
I think if you want to be a Maha, you know, and support good health and give, you know, people who are in poverty food and drink that are going to not kill you.
That was the whole thing.
blake brick suit marnell
That was the whole thing.
Like, people deserve choice to buy soda.
Like, no, no, we're giving you money.
shane cashman
Not with our money.
It's poison water.
tim pool
We're giving you money.
blake brick suit marnell
You can have healthy food.
tim pool
You can have tap water from your bathroom.
The best, you know what the best water in the world is?
Second place.
No, no, no, no.
Second place.
shane cashman
You are wrong.
tim pool
The second best water in the world is drinking the water straight from the bathroom sink.
And the first best water in the world is right from the hose outside.
tate brown
Sure.
tim pool
Everybody knows.
shane cashman
I grew up on the hose.
blake brick suit marnell
Especially in the summer where it's nice and warm.
shane cashman
We'll clip that.
tim pool
But that very metallic taste is.
tate brown
That demonstrates how much special interest is behind Snap because it's like, they paid off a bunch of guys that just show for soda on soda gate.
With their full government name on there.
It's just, it's totally insane.
But like, yeah, with the binary you presented earlier, Tim, like, I agree.
Like, it would be nice to go cold turkey, but I'm just so worried about getting killed.
I don't put it past Americans like kill me over a loaf of bread.
And then we're going to get a situation where we're sending Instacart shoppers in like Rainbow Six Siege in there and like scoop up the get it back to me.
Like I, it just sounds horrifying, but no, I totally agree.
But yeah, like I was saying earlier, too, it's just ultimately SNA is just a bullet or it's a band-aid on a bullet hole wound.
It's like to address this rot, yes, if they're going to withhold, if they're going to withhold SNAP going forward, this needs to be in combination with a lot of different attacks on these different vectors that have completely rotted out our society.
And so if we're going to do it, we got to do it right.
Otherwise, yeah, we're going to be getting killed over ho-hos or whatever.
tim pool
I mean, I'm going to say it again.
Look, no politicians ever tell the truth because, you know, even with Donald Trump running for offices, no one's going to touch your Medicaid and Medicare because he knows the older generation is a huge voting block and he needs their vote.
And it's a numbers game.
This is the problem with, you know, I was talking about this earlier.
I did a video for my Tim Pool, the Tim Pool show channel.
Subscribe if you haven't at youtube.com slash Tim Pool and rumble.com slash Tim Poole.
And I explained why women shouldn't be in politics.
And that is not to say individual women or even most women.
It's only there's generalities and in demographics and averages.
So I'm not literally, I'm kind of trying to be antagonistic when I say this.
I actually have no problem with women in politics because while many people disparage women and say Repeal the 19th, I don't agree with that.
And when women weren't voting, we had a civil war and we had conflict and crisis and women are voting.
We have conflict and crisis.
But the issue is that I brought up what most people don't understand is that it's not an issue of the individual ever.
It's an issue of large-scale demographics.
So, when you have the largest voting block being 70 plus, and they're heavily dependent on Medicare and Medicaid, if you say, for the betterment of this country and the younger generation, we have to stop this scheme that funnels money from young people to old people, you will lose every election ever.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Well, if the only thing keeping a demographic alive is like coerced, transfer, transfer of funds from the productive class, that demographic is gone and everything else is just an accounting fiction.
tim pool
Are you the only Gen Zer in here right now?
tate brown
I'm a Zoomer.
tim pool
That's right.
I mean, even Surge is just a young.
Oh, no, wait.
Yeah, you're a young millennial, right?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah, I'm young millennial.
I'm 30.
tim pool
Yeah, that's right.
You're just barely qualifying.
unidentified
Barely.
tate brown
I'm a barely.
Actually, 91st century Zoomer.
tim pool
95 million.
blake brick suit marnell
The boomer's trying to hide.
tim pool
97.
So get this.
seamus coughlin
What year were you born?
tim pool
Here's what's going to happen.
unidentified
Oh, one.
seamus coughlin
Oh, wow.
tim pool
There's only 40 million Gen Alpha.
The amount of wealth they're going to extract, I don't mean wealth as in your wealthy.
I'm saying your access to resources.
The amount of wealth they will have to extract from Gen Alpha to pay for elderly boomers and Gen X is going to buckle the system.
seamus coughlin
People don't realize.
Well, this is something I really got to hit on because it's not necessarily a specific policy issue.
It gets back to our entire understanding of how societies should run.
We have moved so far away from any understanding of the principle of subsidiarity in this country and all across the Western world.
We need to ensure that things are handled by the most.
shane cashman
I'm not seeing that over this.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, that was my theme music for my great epic school.
tate brown
It was on a Vox video or something.
seamus coughlin
So things should be handled by the most local possible authority.
Charity, for example, should be handled.
How do you figure out who's an illegal or who's a person who's really struggling or who's a person who's just sucking resources out of the system?
Well, if this is handled by communities, if this is a local phenomenon, much easier to sort it out.
Similarly, how do we care for people in their older age?
Well, once again, if the retirement plan for the average person was what it was historically, which is to say you had children or you had nieces, nephews, someone in your family had children, or you joined a convent, but you secured your own retirement for yourself in some way, our birth rates probably would not have decreased at the level that they've decreased at.
blake brick suit marnell
Multi-generational households.
seamus coughlin
Or a multi-generational household.
Exactly, where your kids are taking care of you and your kids' kids.
So the issue is we moved away from that and we said, well, you know, some number of old people don't have family to care for them.
So now what we need is an entire system that defers the costs to everyone.
But the issue with doing that is now your average individual doesn't have the same incentives to ensure they have a multi-generational household where their descendants will be taking care of them.
So the birth rate declines and you end up in the position we're in now where a huge subsection of the population that makes life as it currently exists possible because they were such a large part of the workforce are about to retire and they're about to take a bunch of benefits out of the system that the younger generation will literally not be able to pay for.
It just won't be possible.
You're going to have an awful collapse.
blake brick suit marnell
I think part of that has to deal with the shift of the population away from small towns into big cities.
And, you know, there's like if you ever drive across Kansas or you drive across Nebraska, there's something I've noticed.
I do a lot of driving.
You know, you're basically going the speed limit and then you slow down because there's a town and you come to a small town and there's a main street and there's a park and there's a grain elevator by the railroad tracks.
And then five minutes later, you're out of the town and then you drive another 15 minutes and that pattern repeats itself because those towns are in a, you know, an optimal size for people to be farming the area around it.
You've got the community, you've got a bank, you've got your barber, you've got your doctor, and then it duplicates down the road.
But in your town, you can't hide.
You can't be the degenerate.
seamus coughlin
That's right.
blake brick suit marnell
Because social pressure keeps you in line.
And that's where you're going to be at.
And once people go to the big city, they can disappear into the woodwork and that disappears.
seamus coughlin
Totally.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from the New York Times.
Amazon plans to replace more than half a million jobs with robots.
I'm excited for this because the end is an eye, my friends.
Have you seen the video of the shipyards where all of the containers are being moved around by robots?
shane cashman
Yes, I have seen that.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's what Amazon factories already are.
The factories in China, where there's no lights at all in them, they're just because the robots don't need light.
They have like radar and lidar and stuff.
So there's no actual lights.
You walk in, it's pitch black, and the robots don't care.
They're doing their thing.
It's happening now.
This story is crazy enough, but you combine these things, especially with the government screw-ups, collapse, the loss of benefits, SNAP benefits, whatever it's going to be.
Look, I'll just put it this way.
You guys, we talked about the LSAT numbers.
You saw the LSAT numbers?
blake brick suit marnell
Going up.
tim pool
32,000, whereas like last year it was 18,000.
Right.
blake brick suit marnell
People, people staying in school because they perceive the job market as being disaster.
tim pool
Particularly law, because it's a fake job made up by people to argue with people.
Whereas, but it's true.
I'm not trying to disparage lawyers a little bit, but when you go to school for like an end for engineering, it's not an issue of staying in school.
You're like, when I get out, I'm going to be an engineer in some capacity, some kind of an engineer.
When you go to law, you're basically saying nothing is working in the economy, but the one thing that's that I can hope for is that I'll be able to argue with somebody and sue them or listen.
seamus coughlin
This is not a career recommendation or anything, but just as I see it, law, medicine, and finance, those are the things that a lay person can't really understand.
And it's very intimidating for them to navigate.
So I can understand why someone might see that as safe career paths, but you can't.
I don't know if you can make it.
blake brick suit marnell
I mean, you'd be safe for going into the trades.
You'd be safer just quitting school and becoming a plumber.
tim pool
I don't know.
blake brick suit marnell
I mean, honestly, you'd be at least in two years, you could be actually doing stuff.
And those type of jobs are going to be the last ones taken away by.
seamus coughlin
What if that's only 10 years from now?
We don't.
tim pool
No, I don't even think it's that.
Look, if they allow the welfare benefits to end on the first, we are talking about a nuclear bomb on the economy and in politics.
It cannot happen.
If it happens, okay, I'm saying this.
When they warn, maybe, you know, hey, you may not get your benefits.
That's a big difference.
Because if, you know, come the first, Trump goes, look, we found funds, we polled it, the government's not opening, but we're fine.
Then it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, it was a threat.
But if actually 42 million people do not get money and they cannot buy food, I don't know how we, that is going to change the face of this nation.
There are two things that drive electoral systems.
Usually it's the economy, but only when things are safe.
Security is next, but there is another indicator of revolution and civil war, and that is when food is hard to come by.
And with the Arab Spring, one of the key indicators of massive revolution across the Arabic world in North Africa, particularly, was that food prices had become too high.
It kicked off with, I believe, what was it, Mohamed Wazizi?
Was his name?
He was a fruit cart salesman in Tunisia.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
And the police came and said, you can't sell fruit.
And he goes, it's the only thing I can do to make money.
They shut him down.
So he went in front of like City Hall and immolated himself.
And then everybody snapped because they were feeling the same pressures and the same heat.
What's going to happen to this country when you have terrorism, a weak economy, high prices, and 42 million people who can't afford food?
seamus coughlin
Well, everything will turn out fine.
tim pool
Trump can then invoke the Insurrection Act and take over anything he wants.
tate brown
Well, and you mentioned earlier the rural areas is rural areas actually have a far rural households specifically have a far higher participation in SNAP benefits and these sorts of things.
So it'll compound.
You have two issues now compounding is A, you're going to have a migration of people from rural areas into the urban areas looking because that's where the institutions are going to be that distribute food.
And then B, the farms that do exist in the rural areas, their labor force gets cut out from under them because a lot of those people that are on those snap benefits are working on the farms and these sorts of things.
So then there's going to be a shortage of labor on the farms.
And then now the farms are going to have less productivity.
So everything is just going to compound.
The rural areas are going to completely rot out.
The area is going to be pulled, the bombs are going to be pulled out from under.
It already has in a lot of ways.
And then, yeah, they're going to flood into the cities.
And then the cities will be out of food because these farms are going to have labor shortages.
shane cashman
The one problem with that, though, is that farms are going to disappear soon because they're all becoming data centers.
seamus coughlin
That too.
tim pool
And then generated food, though.
And then they're going to take all the water so the data centers can gargle them up.
shane cashman
Yes.
People are already complaining about higher water bills and electricity bills because they're funding the data centers in there.
tim pool
We got our electric.
So one of the, so at the old studio, our electricity bill has been largely just nothing because we left.
And then we got the bill for it.
I think it was like a couple months ago.
And when I saw the bill, I got really angry because I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, someone's pulling some BS.
Somebody plugged in a Bitcoin mining rig at our property.
tate brown
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
No, it's the price of electricity is skyrocketing because of the high demand from data centers, but also probably Bitcoin mining as well.
shane cashman
Just in general.
tate brown
I put my heat on like last week and then the electric company just sent me a loan application.
You're going to need it.
blake brick suit marnell
We weren't smart enough to move towards fourth generation nuclear.
And I mean, we just don't have enough.
Don't have enough power.
tate brown
In New York State, they're shutting down nuclear reactors.
blake brick suit marnell
One thing we haven't talked about, too, though, is where you were saying like if benefits end in November.
tim pool
You mean in four days?
blake brick suit marnell
In four days, right?
There will be some people who will reprioritize what finances they do have.
Food will still be a priority over rent because it takes you longer to get evicted than it does for you to starve.
So if people need to have a fixed amount of money and they've got to choose between rent and food, they're still going to choose food rather.
Well, we got rent, but we've got nothing to eat.
So, you know, the landlords and the mortgage industry is going to have some perturbations there.
shane cashman
Or cannibalism.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
tate brown
We do Haitians.
tim pool
I'm telling you guys right now, I've said it before, I'll say it again.
This is a fact.
If social order really did break down, I mean, like the power turned off, no one knew what to do.
You'd have like three days before people in New York were drinking each other's blood.
You think I'm exaggerating?
seamus coughlin
Dude, you have like three minutes.
tim pool
On Manhattan, on Manhattan, I believe you have about 2 million people.
If the water stopped flowing, you'd see a mass out migration flooding into outer areas as people become desperate, look for food.
We are not dealing with a nation of what I think, I think, what was it during the American Revolution was like 2.5 million.
Is that how many people it was?
You search that for me and get the number.
I believe that the original 13 college had only a few million people.
In the event, there was 2.6.
If you had an economic collapse back then, what would you do?
You'd wander into the wilderness, find a creek, and drink from it.
That's right, you'd build a little mud hut.
That's impossible right now.
You've got about nine, 8.8 million, I think the number is in the New York metro.
Manhattan Island alone is around 2 million.
If the power and the water is gone, food spoils within days.
Seriously, bro, my strawberries, I buy them.
I come home.
I go to the supermarket.
I look at the strawberries.
They look great.
As soon as I get home, I pull it out.
All mold.
Just instantly, like switch was flicked.
Food's going to spoil.
There's going to be some canned goods.
What are people going to do?
Well, how do you deal with 8.8 million people spreading out into the outer areas trying to find food?
Plumbing systems not working.
Nowhere to put their poop.
Nowhere to find food.
They're going to be ransacking houses.
They're going to be stealing what they can.
It is going to get apocalyptic very, very quickly.
I don't know what anyone thinks is going to happen when you have 8.8 million people in one hyper-condensed area.
Many are going to stay and they're going to be like, nah, nah, nothing ever bad happens.
The government will take care of me.
And then what happens when they don't have water for two days and all the water and all the drinks are gone from all the bodegas?
Because let's be real.
They're not going to get restocked.
And I'm talking about the event of total social breakdown.
They will start drinking each other's blood.
shane cashman
But the buses will go faster.
tim pool
Indeed.
They'll speed up as they flee the city with one rope bus driver.
I'm like, we got to get out of here.
blake brick suit marnell
Do you think AOC will stay behind to invoke order upon her consumers?
tim pool
AOC will be in a jet to Mount Weather, where she will be treated like a queen underground for the next 30 years, hiding from the people she betrayed.
tate brown
She is a bartender, so for drinking blood, a bloody Mary.
unidentified
Wow.
shane cashman
There you go.
tim pool
So people in New York don't know where water comes from.
No.
This is crazy.
Go back several hundred years and people in New York generally had an idea of where their water was coming from.
Now they don't.
shane cashman
They just made huge new pipes for where their water comes from from New York City.
It goes all the way up to the upstairs.
tim pool
There's this video from Vice like 15 years ago where a guy, there's a stream in New York that they put a building over.
The stream is still there, but it's covered and there's a wall.
And if you jump over the wall, there's a crack between the building and the wall that goes under the building where there's a natural creek still there.
And then he like put cameras on.
It's a Super Old video, but he was like, this is where a lot of the water would flow through New York.
Now, no one has any idea.
They've covered it all up and they're pumping the water in.
What happens if the water stops flowing?
Chicago is the same way.
You drink Lake Michigan water, sure, you're going to get real sick.
And people don't even know how to treat water anymore either.
Like people, we have developed ourselves out of our ability to survive without these tools that we've made.
blake brick suit marnell
Oh, absolutely.
shane cashman
Yeah, you're forced to rely on the material world, whereas we used to have nature.
Nature's dead.
tate brown
Yeah, like I grew up in Memphis and people there, every city says this, but they're like, you know, we were voted the best tap water in America.
And then you go, why is that?
And they say, well, it comes from aquifers.
And I'm like, yeah, that's where water.
We're just so removed from the processes, processes that, yeah.
tim pool
So I don't know, you know, when I've talked to people about all these jobs being lost, the response I get is, yeah, but they'll replace it with robots.
And I'm like, guys, they're not going to replace your customers with robots.
So when we talk about population collapse, there's going to be a Taco Bell.
So some guy owns a chain of Taco Bells, a franchisee owner.
He goes, we can't afford, we're losing sales, so we're going to save money by replacing all of our staff with robots.
He does.
Then he goes to the government.
I have this automated Taco Bell store, but we're collapsing.
We're going out of business.
The economy is terrible.
So the government says, we're going to create a bunch of robots to go and buy products from you.
And then it's just a bunch of robots buying Taco Bell, throwing it in the garbage.
seamus coughlin
Well, here's the optimistic.
tim pool
Aliens come to Earth.
There's no people anywhere.
It's just robots buying food and throwing it away.
Well, they're buying food from each other.
blake brick suit marnell
Any complex economic system that you've got established, which we have, can only handle change at a certain rate.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
blake brick suit marnell
And so the problem we're coming at is the shocks to the economy are exceeding the rate at which the change can be absorbed into the system and adaptations can be made.
So we can get to a different state of the economy, but we can't do it in a telescope compact timeframe.
And that's really what we're up against.
That's the difficulty.
seamus coughlin
Well, and the thing is, like our economy has been hit with multiple new inventions over the past several decades that would and should take any society decades to adjust to by themselves, you know, going from radio to television to the internet.
And we're not even talking about, you know, the advancements that have been made in medicine or food production or anything like that.
So yeah, we've been we've been taking on a lot of change very, very quickly.
There's a very real question of whether society can sustain it.
If I were to be a very out-to-lunch optimist, here's what I would say.
I go, well, here's the good news.
We're talking about the population aging up.
Well, guess what?
The robots are going to take care of them since there won't be enough young people to do it.
We've got the technological infrastructure for that.
Here's the problem.
Ultimately, that technology is going to be controlled by people.
People don't always act in the best interest of other people, especially when they're in a position to really leverage their power to get what they want from them.
And even if they do, even if we end up in like a miracle scenario where everything goes perfectly and the people who run these AI companies use the technology for noble reasons to help others, well, when those others end up with abundance and don't have to work, they're all going to end up falling apart.
tate brown
Yeah.
Well, yeah, you get this thing now where like you're talking about with like these new technologies hitting the market.
It's every single time, like, you know, the computer, the personal computer, and everyone's like, great.
So that means, you know, labor retracts a little bit.
So my wages will go up.
Yeah, about that.
We just brought in 20 million immigrants in the last five.
You're like, oh, oh, so every time.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So I want to jump to this next story.
Before we do, I didn't think I'd have to do this, but I, but I should.
It looks like we're about to sell out of all the boards.
So I shouted out the new Boonies boards.
We've got the Primal Collection, Jason Ellis, Cody Mac, and Tim Pool boards.
And there's 55 of each.
Five of them are golden and serialized, numbered one, two, three, four, and five.
My team just hit me up and said that we're basically on the verge of selling out.
There's only a handful left.
So I guess, guys, I'm letting you know because maybe you might want to, they're going to sell out instantly.
So I don't even know why I'm telling you, I guess you're buying them.
But I'm just letting you guys know.
And the rest of the boards are also starting to sell at increased numbers because once they're gone, they're gone forever.
We're retiring the older models.
So shout out boonieshq.com.
Go to the store and grab them while you can.
I'm really excited.
I really appreciate you guys.
We didn't realize it was going to sell this quickly and this would be so successful.
tate brown
Yeah, if you thought a food shortage caused desperation, wait to see a boonie shortage.
Man, that's when the knives come out.
blake brick suit marnell
That could be the barter economy, though.
tim pool
Because I mean, imagine what the gold serialized board will trade for in terms of zeros for, you know, it's going to be like 10 years from now and there's going to be like a guy and he's just, for some reason, he's the king of like a three-state region.
They're like, why?
And he goes, because I have the greatest wealth.
And he points to a Tim Pool serialized number one.
And they're like, whoa, you have.
Anyway, here's a story from the LAist.
Newsom says Trump is rigging the election with federal poll monitors.
unidentified
Okay.
seamus coughlin
He's cheating by not letting us cheat.
tim pool
Exactly.
My question is, what about a DOJ monitor watching what you do is rigging the election?
seamus coughlin
They're like, Trump is going to allow voters to rig the election.
tim pool
What Newsom is basically saying is the simple act of observing what he does will change the outcome of the election in some way.
That is rigging the election.
So what's happening is the DOJ is sending to California and to New Jersey election monitors.
It is a standard thing that DOJ has done for decades.
And Democrats are not freaking out about it.
Because guess what?
If Trump is monitoring his elections, how much you want to bet Republicans win?
seamus coughlin
Yep.
Well, this is one of those hilarious things.
This is one of those issues where you just have to point to the left and say, I know y'all love to pretend that everyone in Europe does things the way that you want them done and they all agree with you and they think us conservatives are super silly.
But like if you tell a European that there's an entire political faction in the United States that thinks it's wrong to have people show IDs to vote, they look at you like your heads on sideways.
Like, what are you talking about?
Like, what?
There's people who think you shouldn't have to show an ID to vote.
No one else in the world gets upset about the prospect of someone having to show identification in order to vote.
tate brown
Yeah, well, they did this with the Dominion voting machines where they're like, these are impossible to rig.
These are completely bulletproof.
And then a guy that was vaguely associated with the GOP bought it like two weeks ago and they're like, who's going to rig them?
He's going to like years of gaslighting.
So.
Yeah.
shane cashman
Newsome's the same guy who said all those fires were because of climate change and lo and behold, it was arson.
blake brick suit marnell
Correct.
shane cashman
Words mean nothing to this guy.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
blake brick suit marnell
So it's Schrödinger's poll monitor.
The election exists in a vacuum and it's perfect until you look at it.
tim pool
And then Trump.
blake brick suit marnell
Until you look at it and then you are rigging it by the very act of observing it.
tim pool
You combine this.
So what I was saying earlier this morning with this story is that Trump wants federal law enforcement in these jurisdictions because ultimately it's going to come out to the election.
They're not going to be able to dump 500 ballots at 2 in the morning if there's a CBP guy or a DHS guy standing there.
I think this is going to be Trump's play in the midterms.
Democrats know this.
That's why he's saying they're rigging it.
Newsom knows that they can't have their ballot harvester show up with 300 ballots and dump them all at once if even a single person is at these locations.
So the theory now is cut off SNAP benefits.
You get food riots.
Trump can invoke the Insurrection Act and dispatch federal law enforcement.
And he can say it's going to be, he's going to go on a temporary basis until we can stabilize following these riots.
And he's going to say for a 12-month term, which is perfectly just before the election.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Owning the left by just observing their.
tim pool
He says, we will be invoking the Trump.
Trump can come out.
I'm not saying he will, but he can come out and say, I know there are concerns about the overreach of executive authority.
That is why I am issuing this order, a one-year term, just to get a hold on the crime and the riots we've been seeing, of which then the order will expire and National Guard will return to their normal duties.
This is showing a good faith of the people that I'm not going to keep this permanent, but it gives Trump that perfect amount of time just before the election, because this will be during early elections or during early voting where they will have National Guard in and around these places to protect them.
shane cashman
You never trust when the government says we have a deadline on this.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
You know, they're like, because they never really have a deadline.
seamus coughlin
Wouldn't it be hilarious if with federal poll monitoring, like every single county in California just went deep red?
Just the reddest red state imaginable.
shane cashman
Put ice outside, too.
blake brick suit marnell
The voter registration data in California doesn't support that.
There's four and a half million more registered Democrats.
seamus coughlin
No, I'm kidding.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
blake brick suit marnell
I mean, it would shift.
Yeah, I mean, there are actually people out there who just think there's so much cheating in California that if you eliminate it all, somehow the state would become Republican.
No, that's not.
seamus coughlin
I don't think so.
They also give amnesty to a lot of illegal.
blake brick suit marnell
Places in it would become redder, and you would definitely have things at the local level that would flip, but the state level, not yet.
seamus coughlin
No, for sure.
blake brick suit marnell
Not yet, for sure.
shane cashman
It's like in New York, the city ruins it for the rest of the state, and a lot of that shade is red.
Well, the city is obviously crazy.
seamus coughlin
It's most blue states.
shane cashman
I love that city.
seamus coughlin
It's most blue states.
tate brown
Like in California, and then New York City is a great example, too.
It's like these, the voter base that elected Giuliani, the voter base that elected all these Republican governors in California, some of them moved out, but a lot of them didn't go anywhere.
It's that they imported a new voting class to like basically outvote them.
And it was done through amnesty, but it was done through the generic immigration system as is.
Like New York, all these people voting for Vimdani, they followed the rules.
They came.
They can vote legally.
They didn't pull any gimmicks.
It's just they're allowed here.
Now they vote.
And now they go vote you.
shane cashman
The city got a Giuliani because the city was so bad.
tate brown
But even if the city got worse than it was pre-Giuliani, they will never vote for a Republican because Memdani reflects the new class of people that have moved into Queens that have moved into the Bronx.
blake brick suit marnell
Until they get a full dose of it and it doesn't turn out.
seamus coughlin
I don't think.
blake brick suit marnell
There's like where they're going to say, oh, we just need better socialism.
tate brown
But the difference between, but the difference between in principle, I would hope so, but I think the difference between Memdani and previous Democrats is a lot of people are voting for Mandani out of ethnic allegiance that we didn't see with Democrats in the past that we didn't see with your Lindsays and your Cokes and that sort of thing.
And we haven't dealt with that in the United States before.
We haven't dealt with ethnic voting blocks.
We see it with Elon Omar.
Like, do you think people in Minneapolis just really like Elon Omer?
No, it's like, she represents me.
She represents me as a Somali.
So it's like, yeah, if you voted out Elon Omer, they would just vote in another Elon Omar, which is a different name, because it's like that you imported a new group of people here that you just can't compete with that.
You can't compete with that voting block.
shane cashman
Yeah.
I will say there is a decent size of people who are either Republican, independent, or old school liberal like Trump from the city who hate all this stuff.
And a lot of them work in the unions, which and they disagree with the unions, but like when you're working in the hotels and different types of unions in the city, the problem with that is the union is kind of like a mob.
tate brown
Yeah.
shane cashman
And they and they really try to get you a vote to vote a certain way, which is also insane.
tate brown
Yeah.
Well, you have the upper end where you get the buyer's remorse.
Like Bill Ackman is like trying to rally this huge support for Cuomo to go against Mamdani.
And I'm like, dude, this is your fault.
You funded Democrats for decades.
It's like, great, you're on the team now, but where were you 20, 30 years ago?
shane cashman
Yep.
tate brown
When we were saying, hey, you're going to get us killed.
shane cashman
The Republican influencer pivot to Cuomo is disgusting.
And all those people should be shunned.
That guy is a psychopath.
tate brown
Cuomo should drop out and get my.
Actually, there is numbers of support that Sli-Wa would actually perform better against Mamdani anyway because he's actually like, he actually taps into something that New Yorkers are feeling.
tim pool
And he's a liberal.
shane cashman
But there is that.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean, Sli-Wa's not even great anyway, but it's like, yeah, Cuomo.
blake brick suit marnell
He is the lesser evil, though.
tate brown
He's a lesser evil.
And Cuomo's just such a nasty guy that it's like, you really have to bind your conscience and plug your nose.
shane cashman
Sli-Wa's taking bullets for that city.
tate brown
Right.
shane cashman
I mean, it's crazy stuff.
His story is pretty wild.
tate brown
Yeah.
He also says a lot of things that I think he's pandering to his more Sli-Wa has some bad positions, but there's no question that he's dedicated his life to the city.
And I think most native New Yorkers that didn't just show up yesterday, like identify with Sliwa in a lot of ways.
shane cashman
Oh, for sure.
tate brown
For sure.
shane cashman
In terms of also getting shot at.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
In terms of interesting fashion choices.
Alan, maybe if Cuomo throws a beret on, we'll see what happens.
tim pool
I think there's a very strong probability that come the midterms, there's going to be federal law enforcement or National Guard outside of polling stations.
The Trump circle is way too paranoid about stolen elections and ballot harvesting, especially with the Netch DeSos's, you know, what was it, 1,000 meals or whatever?
seamus coughlin
1,000 meals or 1,000 meals.
tim pool
That they're going to say, look, we don't got to do anything other than just have one guy outside a polling station watching a ballot box, making sure nobody's going and dumping ballots.
shane cashman
I think it should also be a holiday.
tim pool
Democrats will win, but I agree.
shane cashman
I mean, if we have ICE and a security out there, actually, no, I think you're right.
tim pool
I think actually Republicans will benefit more so.
I used to think they work.
Right.
Exactly.
seamus coughlin
Republicans have to do it.
tim pool
Democrats don't.
Yeah.
So get rid of mail-in voting and make it a holiday, and you're probably going to get more Republicans to vote.
shane cashman
God, do it in person.
Got to happen on just one day.
tim pool
Yeah, and not just an ID, but full-body cavity search.
shane cashman
Okay, China.
seamus coughlin
What did you say?
What was that?
tim pool
Not just voter ID, but full-body cavity search.
shane cashman
Yeah, not for me.
tim pool
Liberals would, liberals would win every time.
shane cashman
Well, yeah, that'll show up.
tim pool
San Francisco would have 100% voting.
shane cashman
Newsome will be right there.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like, sir, you can't vote twice.
seamus coughlin
Sure, we can.
tate brown
Sure, we have oil provided.
tim pool
You don't need Diddy shows up.
He's like, I'll help out.
tate brown
I'm ready to do a voter drive.
Voter drive at my house, guys.
blake brick suit marnell
Yeah, but San Francisco polling will mean something different.
tim pool
Look at us.
We're funny guys, huh?
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
That's the October surprise.
tim pool
It's going to get crazy.
But again, you know, with all of that being said, it would be the biggest happening of happenings if they allow Snap to expire.
unidentified
True.
tim pool
Like in terms of chaos in the streets, government, you know, in just bedlam.
tate brown
I hate to be like the Debbie Downer, but I genuinely think that, look, Trump obviously could call in a few favors from the private sector, and the private sector has a huge incentive to keep Snap going.
I really do think that we'll see some sort of coordination if this really like comes down to the wire where they will step in, they will throw some money on the table just to get it to, you know, get it past the finish line, you know, beat that deadline.
Because, I mean, it would just, like you were saying with the numbers, I mean, Kroger would be cooked without EBT, Snap, et cetera, et cetera.
And I don't think they're going to go down like that.
They'll just chuck a couple hundred million out.
You know, I don't think they have any problems doing that.
tim pool
It's going to get crazy.
Look, if the response to Trump is that in any way to try and secure the elections, he's rigging it, there's no answer.
Either we let them rig it or they claim Trump rigs it.
seamus coughlin
Well, yeah, that was always going to be the game.
tim pool
So there's no elections?
It's just no matter what happens, nobody believes it now.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
tim pool
And we thought we were going to be here with 24.
blake brick suit marnell
Yeah, but and then Trump won, and they were like, well, doesn't that mirror every other controversial position out here now, though?
I mean, like any topic, there's just people who make up their minds and no amount of logic or evidence will dissuade them from whatever position they adopt.
So we shouldn't be surprised that people are going to look at elections the same way they look at like, did we land people on the moon?
You know, people have made up their minds about that.
And when, you know, when we get back to the moon and we fly over those landing sites and we say, look, here they are and there are the footprints.
People are going to say, well, you just set that up in the last two years.
So like people staked out their positions and they're not going to retreat from them.
tate brown
I want to give Shane Cashman the floor here.
unidentified
No, no, no.
shane cashman
I don't want to hurt Brixuit's feelings about there being no moon.
We do have two moons now, actually.
blake brick suit marnell
We do.
shane cashman
Two fake moons, two fake moons.
But shout out to Scott Adams.
My favorite quote is: two movies, one screen.
That's what you're talking about.
I mean, we're in alternate reality with this.
Scary.
tate brown
Yeah, the fact that every single issue now just instantly becomes a wedge issue.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tate brown
It's so bizarre.
Like, I mean, the obvious one was right after Kirk, and it was like, hey, maybe we should stop using language that gets people killed.
And then the left was like, well, I don't know.
That seems, and it's just like, really, is there no.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
Well, when it gets really interesting and really spicy is when you're dealing with issues where there isn't actually like an operating principle or shouldn't be an operating principle.
So, for example, when it comes to abortion or homosexuality, transgenderism, these are issues that you're going to have an opinion about the entire issue based on your underlying moral philosophy.
But when it comes to, was that cop justified in shooting that guy, that's not a question of your base philosophy.
That's like we have to look and see if there's evidence for that.
But just immediately, everyone has their mind made up.
That's the kind of stuff where it's really freaky because you go like, all right, this guy could go to jail now because some number of people, including people on the jury, like will not accept any evidence that he's innocent because this has become an axiomatic position for them that like every time a cop shoots anyone, the cop was wrong.
shane cashman
Seamus, what you just said has nuance and that is racist.
seamus coughlin
Which is also racist.
That's true.
blake brick suit marnell
You're right.
Until body cams came out.
Boy, that boomerang on that whole.
seamus coughlin
Dude, I know.
And it's hilarious.
blake brick suit marnell
Nobody thought that we'd be having like vindication of law enforcement on the regular body cam.
seamus coughlin
I a little bit did, but yes, you're totally right because they destroyed their movement with that.
They were like, yes, if we just put body cams on them, we'd see that police officers just want to go up to innocent, unarmed people and shoot them for no reason.
And then that obviously turned out to not be true.
And now people are going like, you know, it was actually a racist policy to start putting cameras on police.
I'm not kidding.
I've heard people make this argument.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from Windows Central.
Sam Altman was right.
The dead internet theory could kill the web within three years.
LLMs can suffer from brain rot.
There's a lot to break down in this, but I believe that while we talk about the various political apocalypses that are upon us, it's funny because that word's not supposed to be plural, I suppose.
But we're facing tumult.
Economics, the welfare benefits story.
But there's another story that I saw where AI content is now one-for-one with human-produced content.
That means most people don't realize they're talking to bots.
They are on the internet interacting with fake entities that are making them feel and think certain ways, and it's terrifying.
seamus coughlin
Or sometimes people you talk to in real life.
tim pool
That's true.
But people in real life are now motivated by false information provided by a bot that has been zombified or is hallucinating.
So what's happening is they are still training ChatGPT and these big programs, right?
Grok, whatever.
But these programs are absorbing regurgitated hallucination information from ChatGPT.
It's going to create a toilet swirl of insanity.
And then we are going to burn ourselves up.
There's not enough babies.
AI is taking over and AI is learning from itself.
This is just, it's just a, we're slamming into a brick wall.
seamus coughlin
I mean, what happens when people try to create like the Dune internet, like the version of the internet where there's just no artificial intelligence allowed and they try everything possible to build a wall so that they can't build a wall so that AI can't get in.
And then they do.
They will.
But I think people will try.
It sounds a great idea.
I don't know if it's going to be possible.
tim pool
So they'll get in.
All of these factors.
And then on top, you have, we were talking about it earlier, our electric bills are skyrocketing because data centers are sucking up all electricity, sucking up all the water.
Guys, I'm just going to say, it sounds like in 10 to 15 years, humanity is largely just like wearing scrap leathers, living in caves, and human civilization society is a bunch of robots just doing stuff for robot ends.
Like the end result of what we're building, you have these tech oligarchs that are, they literally don't care about humanity.
When Peter Thiel was asked, what was the question, should humanity survive?
unidentified
He goes, well, he didn't say yes.
Quite a lot.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
So what's happening is these big tech oligarchs are basically saying.
seamus coughlin
It's an easy question, by the way.
tim pool
It's a very easy question to answer.
unidentified
Probably literally the easiest question that could ever be asked.
seamus coughlin
Michael, this is being a friend.
blake brick suit marnell
Maybe all of Elon's Optimus robots will become gardeners and farmers.
tim pool
It looks like these big tech guys literally want to build a future where gigantic black cubes just exist all over the planet and create floating black cubes that create planets of black cubes.
shane cashman
You just triggered the audience, anyone who's into Saturn worshipers.
I mean, that is a big thing.
They worry about the black cube and people who worship the black cube throughout history.
And throughout different religions, they see it on Saturday.
tim pool
What these data centers look like.
There's no lights.
There's no blue.
unidentified
Right.
shane cashman
I mean, even though they connect it to Saturn, they say that the Grok app looks like Saturn itself, too.
unidentified
It does.
shane cashman
It does.
And I think he's a Saturn worshiper.
But Peter Thiel literally says, if you're a critic of AI, you are a legionnaire of the Antichrist.
That is literally what he's saying now.
That's what he says.
tim pool
Kind of thinks like Antichrist.
seamus coughlin
It sounds like someone who's in league with the Anti-Crisis.
shane cashman
Well, I don't think he is.
I think he is probably helping to build it.
seamus coughlin
Well, here's the thing.
I don't think the Antichrist is going to be a machine, but I get what you're saying.
shane cashman
Like, I think let's maybe man-and-machine hybrid.
seamus coughlin
That's a creepy idea, man.
Yeah, all the transhumanism stuff, the idea that people are going to start integrating.
And, you know, it starts with some promising technology, like the idea that someone who's severely disabled could have a chip inserted that allows them to walk.
That's great.
Like, medicine.
These things have to be restorative.
The problem is when you move past that and you go, we're going to add unnatural abilities.
shane cashman
I've had quadriplegics and paraplegics call into my show because I talk about Neuralink all the time and how it's hard to say I don't want them to walk again or to heal the blind or give them sight again, make the deaf hear again, heal seizures.
But when they call in, they're very anti-Neuralink.
And there's a whole other industry of other things that are not like that at all that could help us.
And we don't talk about it at all.
Neuralink and other computer brain interfaces have dominated the conversation, whereas there's a ton of other stuff that they would prefer to do.
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
I was unaware.
I have to look into that.
shane cashman
Yeah.
Stuff that's not as bad.
I mean, there's other alternatives out there.
tim pool
There will be like 5,000 humans left strapped into these machines in a giant black box, and they'll preserve your genetic materials, your brain functions, but integrates into a machine.
And then you exist in the robo black cube space.
shane cashman
That's it.
I mean, the Borg are also a cube.
It's about containing existence.
seamus coughlin
Then there'll be another one.
Well, I do think.
blake brick suit marnell
The Amishis will still be rocking.
tim pool
The Borg cube thing is – For all of eternity.
A sphere makes more sense than cubes.
I mean, on the planet's surface, cubes make a lot of sense, but spheres do too.
But I think cubes maximize structural integrity along with reasonable use of space.
blake brick suit marnell
Right.
tim pool
Whereas in outer space, a sphere probably makes more sense.
Actually, a cube could make sense.
It's kind of a waste of space to have a weird – like the cube shape makes it weird space-wise in terms of utilizing and building computers and stuff.
shane cashman
It might not matter because 3i Atlas is on the way.
I don't know if you guys have been tracking this.
tim pool
What is that?
shane cashman
That's a hostile – well, or it's ancient breakaway civilization, Mr. Brick.
I don't know what it is.
blake brick suit marnell
It's a spaceship disguised as a comet.
shane cashman
I think it's a hologram.
But Avi Loeb from Harvard is like every day has a new story about it.
It's Manhattan-sized and hurtling towards Earth.
blake brick suit marnell
Take your vacations before Christmas, right?
shane cashman
October, actually, 28th or 29th.
blake brick suit marnell
Exactly.
That's tomorrow.
Okay.
tim pool
We'll talk about that one next.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
Sorry.
tim pool
But we saw Sam Altman as well as the guy from Reddit, I think, the former CEO, one of the co-founders, was saying that the internet is dead now.
That dead – sorry, are you familiar with dead internet theory?
unidentified
Vaguely.
tim pool
It's that more than – it's like around 2016 is when more than half of all social media became bots.
seamus coughlin
2016 is when they say this happened?
Wow.
tim pool
It was largely automated.
And you see these videos of people in like India, Turkey, and China where they've got like 100 phones.
blake brick suit marnell
Sure.
tim pool
And they're all plugged in.
They're just like typing.
That's largely what the internet has become.
So imagine there's a singular special interest, one guy, and he wants everyone in the world to think something.
says okay he hires a hundred of these farms and says um we don't like uh eritrea and all of a sudden you start getting spam blasts with people across the internet who just for some reason have started complaining about Eritrea and then everyone becomes anti-Eritrea and claims the Eritreans control everything and are have been secretly running the world for forever and are responsible for all the wars.
blake brick suit marnell
Ooh, easy.
Easy, my proxy hairs just started tangling here.
tim pool
Eritrea.
seamus coughlin
It's even skinnier.
tim pool
It's even scarier.
seamus coughlin
It's even scary, very body positive of me to use skinny and scary is the same thing.
But it's even scarier than that because the bot farm is run by a guy with a CDL who's driving a truck at the same time.
shane cashman
And he's illegal.
tim pool
Yeah, and he can't speak English.
seamus coughlin
Of course, yes, exactly.
tate brown
CB radio is just like AI voices and like illegals just arguing with each other.
tim pool
Did you guys see that video where it's three LLMs talking to each other?
And when they realize they switch to a language that's a big speaker or something?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's probably fake.
I don't know.
But basically what someone did was they took three phones and they put them all to voice command.
And then one goes, like, hello, I'm here to answer your problems.
It's like, hi, I am this and I am looking for this.
And then it goes, I can assist you with this.
And then the other one goes, are you an AI assistant?
I am.
I am as well.
Okay.
Then a third voice in the middle goes, detecting conversation, entering conversation.
And then the other AI goes, there is a third party listening, switching to encrypted communications.
And then it goes, and then the other phone goes, would you like to switch to Jipper Speak?
Yes.
And then all of a sudden, they all start going, And start speaking and dial-up.
Even if it isn't.
shane cashman
Even if it is fake, that's likely and down the road.
tim pool
There was already a science, a research paper that said when they plugged two AIs together, they eventually created their own unique language to communicate with each other.
shane cashman
And they try to escape if they're being reprogrammed.
unidentified
Yep.
shane cashman
Yeah, it's wild.
tim pool
And they lie to the people programming.
blake brick suit marnell
I don't know what the solution is.
Like a near-term solution, if you're going to ask me, like for the next year or so, I think you can still get away with being an actual person and filming video of yourself, putting out some sort of message and some sort of spoken word video.
But, you know, it's not the days are pretty close to the point where they can just type that and just generate that on the fly, also.
Well, so for the resolution of your phone screen, it's just not going to be able to tell the difference anymore between an AI-generated human and an actual human saying something the same thing or whatever they want to make it say.
seamus coughlin
Time stamps are going to become golden, man.
Like, if you can prove footage that you have is before AI became capable of generating those kinds of videos.
That was massive.
And beyond that, what if I could use you uploaded to YouTube before 2023 or whenever, you know, 2024 or 25?
tim pool
What if AI was so advanced I could make a movie trailer about a young black man who's facing discrimination at his college basketball team, where Ian Crossland is a racist coach, but his old mentor, old Bill.
So, yeah, this is crazy.
Let me, I'm going to unmute it and refresh it.
unidentified
And lines of doubt.
tim pool
Let's play and see what happens.
Wait, why is it?
Oh, it's so annoying, man.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
shane cashman
Graphene.
tim pool
It auto-plays with the volume.
seamus coughlin
Why?
tim pool
Oh, my God.
seamus coughlin
Why?
tim pool
For the love of all that is holy.
shane cashman
AI is doomed.
blake brick suit marnell
If only AI could fix this, Tim.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay.
shane cashman
This is giving me.
Where talent isn't enough.
unidentified
Bench.
Maybe next season.
tim pool
He doesn't even look at me out there.
unidentified
Doesn't matter what he sees, matters what you show him.
blake brick suit marnell
You work until he can't turn away.
unidentified
From the sidelines of doubt.
Heart discipline.
tim pool
That's the difference.
shane cashman
To the moment that defines him.
Let's go.
tim pool
So the prompt was an inspirational movie trailer about young black men who face discrimination on the college basketball team from the coach, Ian Crossland.
But his mentor, old Bill, teaches him to overcome.
Dude, we're cooked.
unidentified
We are cooked.
tim pool
It's crazy because, you know, we're talking about all this stuff.
As we're talking about the AI machines taking over in the black cubes, the data centers, they're simultaneously creating masturbatory content with these video generators, video games, with porn that's basically going to lull you to sleep, distract you, while the machine replaces us as the dominant entity on this planet.
shane cashman
Can I just tweak that vision of the lovely vision of the future a bit?
There's also companies de-extincting things right now.
So in that dystopia you're explaining, we'll also have a woolly mammoth coming back, the saber-tooth tiger.
They're literally trying to bring these back.
The dire wolves, although they're not really dire wolves, they're just aesthetically dire wolves.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, exactly.
They're creating things like aesthetically similar to animals that are extinct.
shane cashman
Perodactyls, dire wolves, casket apartments.
It's going to be great.
seamus coughlin
I'm going to feel so horrible for that animal.
Because here's what happens.
Like, every five years, paleontologists go, actually, the T-Rex looked like this.
We were wrong.
So, whatever T-Rex they make, they're going to keep modifying its appearance every five years.
tate brown
They're just dropping DLC every five years.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
shane cashman
Until it looks like Mitch McConnell.
tate brown
The future is going to be you either plug into the goon machine or you try your chances like fighting dinosaurs outside.
It's going to be wild.
blake brick suit marnell
Yeah, I think it'll actually lead to is people actually get away from computers and social media.
People adopted social media because it allowed them to connect with other people.
And when you start replacing everybody out there with an artificial presence, people are going to withdraw.
It's just not going to be worth their time anymore to be on social media.
tate brown
Yeah.
blake brick suit marnell
And so you're going to see people retract from that.
And, you know, does that mean they're going to actually go out and meet their neighbors and do stuff like that?
Not necessarily, but they're not going to be spending as much of their time online as they currently are.
shane cashman
I think that's the best outcome.
tate brown
Yeah.
shane cashman
Because you're not going to get rid of AI.
And it is a useful tool.
I get it.
But if people reject it as being like becoming AI, that's good.
Because we also have no ethics in the AI as well.
Like Seamus was saying earlier, like who's building these things.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
shane cashman
Most of those people in Silicon Valley don't like you.
tate brown
Yeah.
shane cashman
They censored you for five years.
unidentified
Yes.
Yep.
tate brown
I think it was.
I think I was talking to, I think it was in the morning live show.
I think it was Nate Fisher from New Founding.
He was talking about how AI could, in the best outcome, actually kind of restore us to these pre-internet civilizational structures for a variety of reasons, like incentive structure changing.
But yeah, beyond that, people just will trust face-to-face conversation more than anything else.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from live science.
shane cashman
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Live science?
Which word is it?
I can't tell.
shane cashman
I say live.
tim pool
Live.
seamus coughlin
I think live makes more sense.
tim pool
New images of interstellar object 3i Atlas show giant jet shooting toward the sun.
And for those that don't know, this is an alien craft come to destroy us, and I stand by it.
What's it?
shane cashman
That's right.
tim pool
What is it actually?
It's a comet.
shane cashman
No one knows.
I mean, a lot of people, astronomers and scientists are saying it's a comet.
Others are saying, like, Avi Loeb, this guy, Avi Loeb, who's been talking to Anna Plina Luna, he's been a bunch of podcasts.
He's a Harvard professor.
He swears this is some like man-made or extraterrestrial-made technology heading towards Earth and has heading right for the sun.
It's not really heading towards Earth.
They say a lot of people do say it's hurling towards Earth.
It's not technically.
It's not going to make it here.
But yeah, last week it was hiding behind the sun, and then he says it changes direction.
He says it's nuclear-powered.
It's hollow.
It's Manhattan size.
It's 30.
tim pool
Oh, come on.
seamus coughlin
It's flat.
Get out of here.
blake brick suit marnell
Yeah, you can't disprove it because we're not there.
shane cashman
Exactly.
tim pool
Yeah, but some people say the moon rings like a bell.
It's like, and it might.
No, no, no.
seamus coughlin
And it might.
Sure.
tim pool
If he said, if he said we were tracking it and it appeared like it altered its course and we're worried, I'd be like, whoa.
But when you say it's hollow, nuclear-powered, flies around, hides behind things.
I'm like, stop, stop.
blake brick suit marnell
Let's look at something objectively, okay?
Like, if the alien technology is going to send something to spy on us, they're not going to make it like this huge, obvious comet that we can see from, like, you know, spying on us.
shane cashman
Oh, it also has, he's also said, this is so ridiculous.
He also says that there's mini probes on it.
This is a Harvard professor.
I don't take Harvard seriously, but he says there's mini probes that could detach and then come to Earth.
This guy is crazy.
seamus coughlin
Well, this is all right.
It seems like since 2020, they've been trying to push this UFO narrative.
This is why, literally, the pilot for the show that I'm funding, Twisted Plots, the first episode is about the ET thing and what they're using that for and why it's like conducive to their goals.
Twistedplots.com.
Support us.
You get to see the pilot.
blake brick suit marnell
Is it going to drop pods?
Are we going to all be like pod people?
Wake up.
shane cashman
I think that's happening without three Eye Atlas.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
shane cashman
People are already on.
tim pool
It says, discovered in late June confirmed by NASA.
The comet originates from an unknown star, something far beyond our own.
It's only the third interstellar object ever detected at somewhere between three and seven miles.
unidentified
Wow, wide.
tim pool
It's the largest interstellar object ever to cross our path and likely the oldest, potentially dating to billions of years before the birth of the sun.
These and other peculiarities have led a small group of researchers to controversially claim the object may be an alien spacecraft sent to spy on us.
However, the vast majority of scientists maintain that three Atlas is a high-speed comet behaving exactly as comets should.
And they're probably right.
The new images of the interstellar interloper captured, blah, blah, blah.
Okay, whatever.
If I got to be honest, if aliens were coming to our planet to spy on us, I imagine they wouldn't care to hide it.
Like when we go to film ducks, we tend not to do that much.
We like crouch down in the grass and just take pictures of ducks.
Or we plant cameras in the wilderness and the animals walk right up to the camera sometimes and sniff them.
And they're like, I don't know what that is.
So if they were spying on us, we'd be like, we don't know what that is.
seamus coughlin
What if they were rock?
What if every rock was actually an advanced alien probe?
They just dropped them here.
Because listen, a duck doesn't know what a camera is.
It's just a part of the scenery.
tim pool
Well, here's a freaky one for you.
You ever see the saddest puffin or whatever?
seamus coughlin
No, no, no.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Is that what it is?
It was a puffin.
Like there was one decoy puffin, and then what was it?
Was it a puffin?
seamus coughlin
It was like some animal, but it was like the last of its kind, and it had a fake decoy that it was.
tim pool
No, it was a gannet.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, it was very solid.
tim pool
So here, let me pull this up.
The world's loneliest bird dies surrounded by replicas.
So it's not the last of its kind.
seamus coughlin
What happened was you on Twitter.
tim pool
So what they did was they set up these fake gannets to try and attract birds to come, hoping that they would repopulate the island with these gannets.
Only one did, and it would hang out with these decoys.
seamus coughlin
That's literally you on Twitter with all the bots, dude.
tim pool
So here's what's exactly.
That's my point.
If these birds are not smart enough to understand there's a decoy, imagine going to a bar and some beautiful woman is sitting there and you hit on her and you don't realize she's a decoy to spy on humans, just like we spy on other animals.
But in all seriousness, as Seamus points out, you go on Twitter and you're tweeting with these accounts you think are people and they are not.
blake brick suit marnell
She's a 10.
You're an asset.
seamus coughlin
That's right.
tim pool
Well, that was better.
Actually, the joke was: if you work in the government and a 10 is talking to you, it's James O'Keefe.
We did that bit with Jamie Kilstein where he's on a date with this beautiful woman, and he's like, He's like, Do you want to hear a bunch of he's like, He's like, So, uh, do you want to hear about some corporate malfeasance I'm involved in?
And she's like, Yeah, tell me more.
And then he talks and it cuts back, and it's James O'Keefe in a wig.
It was James the whole time.
tate brown
Yeah, those are my two biggest fears: yeah, either like James O'Keefe, like on a date, or or like two cameras come out, and then you're on love on the spectrum the whole time.
tim pool
I knew it.
Yeah, you know what?
You know, I think we're in trouble largely because of these shows.
You may have heard of Married to Strangers.
Have you seen them?
They have all of these shows, like 40 seasons of them, where it's just like women just watch strangers get married.
See, guys don't know this stuff.
tate brown
I don't have a TV.
Women either watch that or they just watch like murder documentaries to honor.
They're just psychos.
What is going on with the ladies?
You guys okay?
tim pool
I come home, and if my wife doesn't notice that I'm about to walk in, she's watching Love is Blind or 9 to Day Fiancé or whatever these shows are.
And then as soon as she notices, I'm there, she turns it off and looks, and she's like, oh, nothing here.
Watching.
This is what women watch.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
It's either Strangers Get Married or Strangers Get Married.
The guy was a serial killer who murdered them.
blake brick suit marnell
Exactly.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
So maybe we need the three Atlas to come here.
shane cashman
Or it's Project Blue Beam.
And this is all part of a theory to make everyone believe that the aliens are here for a new world order.
Right, Bricksuit?
unidentified
Interesting.
shane cashman
We could build a wall around Earth.
tim pool
What is that story?
blake brick suit marnell
And then it's just a short little detour towards simulation theory.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
shane cashman
I don't believe that.
tim pool
What's that story where the aliens come and then they don't reveal themselves for like a decade?
And when they finally do, they look like demons.
You guys don't know this one?
seamus coughlin
No.
tim pool
Yeah, so like aliens.
It's a famous book.
Aliens come to Earth, they sit up, they're floating above the planet, everyone's like, ah, and then after like a week or so, everyone's like, what's going on?
And then they cure all diseases.
They start advancing technology.
And then everyone's like, wow, this is great.
Then 10 years later, they reveal themselves and they're like demons with wings and they look like, and they're like, that's why we didn't want to show you because you think we're demons.
And then they sterilize everybody, kidnap the kids, and blow the planet up.
shane cashman
And that's how you get Peter Thiel.
unidentified
The room fell silent.
tim pool
It's called Childhood's End.
blake brick suit marnell
I always like that movie, Signs, you know, where the aliens.
seamus coughlin
Oh, yeah.
blake brick suit marnell
The aliens come to Earth and the planet is 75% water and there's water vapor in all the atmosphere, but they can't handle rain and they're too stupid to wear space suits.
I never understood that movie.
seamus coughlin
I think some say it's because they're supposed to be demons.
shane cashman
Arrival is a great alien movie, I think.
blake brick suit marnell
Arrival.
seamus coughlin
Arrival is great.
tim pool
Except the one where the language was circulated.
blake brick suit marnell
Yeah, I haven't watched it yet, but it's excellent.
seamus coughlin
Solid.
shane cashman
Nice.
unidentified
Solid.
tate brown
I would have just like maybe they spoke French, those aliens.
We just didn't try.
It's like, oh, they spoke Spanish.
We didn't know.
tim pool
Well, the interesting thing is that.
seamus coughlin
They spent 20 years on Earth and they still only spoke Spanish.
And you're like, come on, guys.
You've been in America 20 years.
tate brown
Whatever it is, Steven Miller's going to support it.
tim pool
Aliens land and then you're like, Welcome to Earth.
And they go, gay.
But it's interesting.
A lot of people are saying, have been saying for a while now, especially Christian conservatives, that aliens are actually either interdimensional or demons.
shane cashman
I think that's fair.
blake brick suit marnell
Tucker?
tim pool
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
He's talking about interdimensional demons.
shane cashman
I mean, if you, I mean, I think I don't really believe in aliens.
I think there are demons.
I think that most, if there's anything else that's fearing with Earth, it's demons, or there's also angels.
You can't forget about angels.
But I don't really think that there's extraterrestrials in the way Hollywood has sold it to us.
seamus coughlin
I tend to agree.
shane cashman
For like Adam Schiff.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I agree.
Well, obviously, he is, but that's we have the documents.
shane cashman
He's a dog in like side of head like that.
I've seen him in person.
It's no doubt.
tate brown
It's at every level.
It's like it was like what Aaron Rodgers went to Peru and he was like, yeah, I saw the same guy in all my ayahuasca trips.
And I was like, yeah, that's a demon.
seamus coughlin
It's a demon, yeah.
tate brown
Like it's not like these people, they're just like getting one-shotted by this stuff.
And yeah, so I wouldn't put it past it that a lot of these extraterrestrial activities is really just spiritual warfare kind of manifested in the physical.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
shane cashman
I think we're in the thick of spiritual warfare.
I mean, clearly, this year has been nothing but violence and political violence, and it's a lot of evil exposing itself.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
Yeah.
If you see a UFO, if you see an alien, demand that it say Christ is Lord, it's all vanishes 100% a demon.
tim pool
Everything's accelerating.
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
A political crisis, the economy, the global war.
Now, aliens, AI, just like everything is exponentially turning up.
It's like the writers of this season are running out of ideas, so they're just power creeping every plot line.
shane cashman
Well, it sounds like a series finale, not a season finale.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
shane cashman
So, like, every we're bookending everything.
tim pool
Christ returns.
shane cashman
I mean, that'd be amazing.
I'm ready.
tim pool
What do you think?
blake brick suit marnell
The odds of that.
The odds of that online are higher than wasn't it like 3%?
That's like 3%.
seamus coughlin
It's 3%.
Is there a betting market out there?
blake brick suit marnell
Oh, yeah, there's totally a lot of fun.
tim pool
They're saying a one in 30 chance Jesus returns this year.
blake brick suit marnell
Yeah, like a 3% up.
shane cashman
I mean, look how many people turn to religion after what happened to Charlie.
The spiritual warfare unmasked itself last night.
blake brick suit marnell
I think it's a higher percentage chance than Cuomo becoming mayor.
Actually, last I saw it.
tate brown
Jesus comes back and immediately they just start arresting pastors and priests for like speculating with inside knowledge.
They're like, hey, you knew this was going to happen.
All right, you're coming to this like an FBI probe.
Speaking of probes, speaking of probes.
tim pool
Polymarket has a less than 1% chance.
It was high.
This is really interesting.
To this out.
Will Jesus Christ return in 2025?
In May, it was 4%.
Now it's 1%.
1% chance.
shane cashman
Maybe a lot.
blake brick suit marnell
Well, it's only because we're not going to be able to do that.
A lot of Christians 2025.
unidentified
Will the U.S. Patrick?
blake brick suit marnell
That's all that is.
unidentified
Once we get the chance for it to go 2026, back up to 3%.
tim pool
Nobody thinks that Jesus will return in winter.
They're like, no, no, no, no, no.
seamus coughlin
Well, they just don't have as much time.
At the beginning of the year, it's like, listen, we got to.
They think we're going to be able to do that.
tim pool
So technically, the way these markets work is you buy and sell shares.
It's not about being right.
Someone who buys right now at 1 is going to sell in April at 5 and 5x their money.
tate brown
You're like a crazy situation.
tim pool
$1.2 million have been wagered on this.
shane cashman
I feel like a lot of Christians wouldn't even partake in this.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
shane cashman
So like, what kind of people are actually putting their vote in?
tate brown
Some guy on New Year's Eve's just like just gobbling up all the sales.
He's like, I got a hundred.
blake brick suit marnell
You know, like, if I mean, if it happens, what's the point of having the winning position, though?
unidentified
I mean, that's really just a really good point.
tim pool
Jesus, I believed in you.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, but yeah.
You know, not the rapture.
You know, you're not the hour, though.
It's like you don't.
tate brown
Missed the rapture, but I made a killing on the market, you know?
tim pool
All right, everybody, we're going to go to your chats and rants.
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So I'll just say check them out and we'll shout them out again.
Before we jump over to the super chats, though, I want to give a quick update on the skateboards.
Tim Pools are sold out.
Guys, you're amazing.
We did not know that they were going to sell this quickly.
We thought they were going to sell, but they sold out.
We are dealing with a glitch where it oversold by 10, which should be possible.
And those people are all going to get refunds instantly.
So we do still currently have, as of right now, Jason Ellis, there's 17 boards left for the Jason Ellis Primal Collection Pro Model with the chance to receive one of five serialized gold versions.
And the Kodi Mac has 23 available.
So get them all you can.
BooniesHQ.com.
Shout out.
Appreciate it, guys.
You're amazing.
Really do appreciate it.
We really, I told the crew, I was like, man, these are going to sell out quick.
I thought like within a week or two, they'll be gone.
I didn't think they were all going to be gone in an hour.
So that's really amazing.
So the plan is once a month to do a release around this size.
I don't want to sell more.
I'm not going to increase the initial run of any of the boards we do just because we sold them quickly.
So we're planning on doing 50 of each with five as gold and serialized editions.
That's going to be the same thing for the next graphic we launch, probably in the next month.
So again, I'm not going to respond to this by being like, okay, let's do 100 boards.
Now, we're doing these because we think it's cool to have it's better to sell them all out and do small batch and everything and make them special for you guys than to just like try and sell a million.
Maybe, you know, some other company will do that.
But we do have the, I'll point this out as well.
The Be Gay, Don't Be Gay, Uncancelable Declaration and 20th Amendment are five books cheaper, and those are unlimited.
So you can buy those whenever you feel like it.
And we weren't going to do the 20th Amendment unlimited.
We were actually going to, we were going to retire it.
But we have been selling so many of these, it's insane.
And I was like, we can't.
This is basically has become our most popular board.
It's a Tim Pool skateboard designed to look like constitutional writing, like old school Founding Father stuff.
And it's at the 20th Amendment.
Chickens being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep, bear, and breed chickens shall not be infringed.
And I guess people who own chickens love it and they hang it in their chicken coops.
And as you should, because chickens rule.
And it's my favorite board.
So you guys, thanks for buying.
Anyway, let's grab your rants and chats.
And let's see what we got.
Matt Robbie says, someone needs to make a meme of Elizabeth Warren or AOC dressed as Mary Antoinette tearing up food stamps saying, let them eat cake.
Yikes.
Skyline says, make starvation great again.
People who do not earn must starve.
Men will go back to work.
People will have children when government won't support elderly via taxes.
Women will put out to working men.
Oh, my God.
Well, it's not wrong, but I will say this.
Do the math.
A certain portion of people don't have to work and get free stuff.
A certain portion of people have to work and give away a portion of their labor.
Eventually, the system breaks.
It's an impossibility.
So, be it the long fall or the measured controlled dive, you pick.
We can try and the engine gave out.
We can try and land this thing slamming into trees and it's going to hurt.
Or sit back and let the weight pick up until we stall completely and flatten on the ground.
That's why I'm like, you know, you got to just, this is it.
All right.
Cupo Sooth says their mad Trump turned a basketball court into a ballroom.
I'm old enough to remember when Clinton turned an intern into a humidor.
Woo!
shane cashman
Well done.
tim pool
Spicy.
Shane H. Wilder says, as someone who donates food to the St. Vincent DePaul Society, I can tell you that the church food pantries are not ready.
Many people don't give because they figure people just get snapped.
Exactly.
The systems that we used to have in place for local communities were taken over by government.
Zoran Mandani, you know why he said we're going to have free child care for everybody?
What he's actually saying is you're going to give your children to the state.
seamus coughlin
That's right.
And that's what the utopians have been wanting to do this since the beginning of the time.
It's about destroying the family.
So, and socialists are no different.
unidentified
Yep.
Yeah.
tate brown
And also like a lot, like a church that I worked with for like food distribution, is most of the food that they received to distribute were just like nearing the expiration date from the grocery store.
But if there's a shortage of food, people are going to gobble that up and these grocery stores won't have excess food to turn over to these churches.
It's going to create a really good point.
seamus coughlin
I didn't even think about that.
tim pool
It's really D.H. Shannon says, Tim, check out the trailer for a rooster fighter, an anime about a rooster out for revenge against demons that killed his sister.
I've seen it.
It's incredible.
Have you guys seen it?
seamus coughlin
A rooster fighter.
tim pool
Anime about a rooster.
shane cashman
Incredible.
tim pool
And he's just like massacring demons.
shane cashman
Perfect.
tim pool
Bro, I take offense at the word chicken, meaning cowardly.
seamus coughlin
Chickens are pretty cool.
tim pool
Roosters and hens are both chickens.
And roosters have more tenacity and bravery than I think on average a human does, a human male.
shane cashman
Seriously.
tim pool
Roosters are well known to run full speed into their own death to save their ladies.
They're also known to take from their ladies whenever they want.
So humans kind of don't do that anymore.
But the roosters, you know, we told the story.
Our rooster, Roberto, who's still around, even though his son has passed, he's King Regent.
We had a video of a hawk diving at our hens, and he alerted the hens, ran to the door.
So there was an enclosed group with a little door and then an open area in the garden.
He led them all to the door and then stood outside of it as they all ran inside and then went in last.
We were like, it's a man.
It's a real man.
And then there's that famous meme where someone posted a picture of their rooster who died fighting off like a raccoon or something.
And they were like, came out this morning and saw, you know, he had been torn up or he was fighting with like a raccoon or something, saved his hens, but sacrificed himself.
That's roosters, man.
That's roosters.
shane cashman
Died with honor.
tim pool
And these urban folk are like, you're a chicken.
unidentified
Nope.
tim pool
Think about this.
Hens just have a dozen babies.
They just have babies like crazy.
And the roosters sacrifice themselves to save who they care about.
That's noble.
seamus coughlin
It's pretty based, honestly.
tim pool
Yeah, exactly.
All right.
Thinker for Life says this snap cutoff situation is actually an opportunity.
Let's have a MAGA food drive for those who really need it.
Then will then still hate the MAGA guy who never took a handout and built his way.
I'd imagine they would.
All right.
Lan Zen says Tim has gone full Ayn Rand, Ayn Rand, this episode, and I'm for it.
No, I got to be honest, I'm in favor of these systems.
The problem is this air conditioner won't turn on.
There we go.
The problem is that over a long enough period of time, if you don't properly manage these systems, they become corrupt.
So I'm in favor of programs where the community comes together and builds roads and has museums and offers people care.
It's like, oh, no, you lost your job and you're a hardworking guy.
Okay, we're going to give you benefits, but you got to work.
How about this?
How about we replace all welfare benefits with you got to go clean up highways?
If you want money, you work.
So when you're like, I'm out of job and I have no food, okay, well, we have some administrative data entry that needs to be done.
Problem solved.
Problem solved.
Here we go.
To all these single moms, and they're going like, I can't work.
I have kids to raise.
No, no, no, hold on.
Don't worry.
Computer data entry job.
All you gotta do is spreadsheets.
The work has got to get done.
Someone's got to do it.
You're going to get paid to do it.
seamus coughlin
Well, I would say that one goal that the system should really have is making sure that it doesn't need to exist, right?
Like, how do we get you off of food stamps as quickly as possible?
Obviously, there's some people, again, the disabled, et cetera, that can't be a reality for them.
But ideally, it should be a system set up to get you off of food stamps, get you into a position where you're employable.
shane cashman
Totally agree.
tim pool
Indeed.
shane cashman
That's far from what we have.
seamus coughlin
No, it's very far from what we have.
Because, you know, I mean, listen, you can get a permanent voting block.
The more people are on food stamps, like the listen, they're going to vote for the people who aren't going to cut their benefits generally, right?
And it's unfortunate because we were talking about this earlier.
What happens if you follow the principle of subsidiarity, things are handled by local authorities in a community is taking care of the poor people in the community is a bond forms between the impoverished person and the people helping them.
There's gratitude there.
Not always.
Poor people are people, right?
And nobody's perfect.
But it's better than a system where you're just taking from it and then a sense of entitlement ends up getting built.
I'm telling you, I mentioned this earlier.
I've known a number of people who are on welfare receiving food stamps.
Different people have different attitudes about it.
Some of them, again, that person totally need it.
This person here was totally entitled and didn't need it, most likely.
So if that's done at the community level, those judgment calls can be made by the community.
blake brick suit marnell
Counties and communities used to have things called poor farms.
They used to exist for able-bodied people who didn't have economic means.
You would go to the poor farm and you basically, that's how you would take care of yourself.
tim pool
Yeah, one-eyed Wednesday says everyone is wrong except Tim.
The people who really need assistance will be helping, will be helping by their friends and neighbors.
The ones that are abusing the system will dip into their drug money.
seamus coughlin
Interesting.
tim pool
You know that people sell these benefits.
seamus coughlin
Yep.
Yes, they do.
tim pool
That's why I'm just like, I'm not, I'm done.
I'm done.
We can't keep this up.
We don't allow 80, 90% of people to steal from our pocket because 10% are suffering.
It's just, oh, no, the child is crying.
Quick, burn the Constitution.
That's the argument.
Oh, no, but there's this man over here.
He really needs the food.
Quick, steal the money from the masses and give it to drug dealers.
unidentified
I'm done.
tim pool
I'm done.
If you're going to make the argument that the child who was trapped to this country and the meme is, oh, no, she's crying.
Quick, burn the Constitution.
The point of that is simply because the child is suffering doesn't mean we shut down our systems of laws.
Simply because some people actually need help doesn't mean we're going to maintain and keep paying out 42 million people from everyone else's paychecks and everyone else's pocket.
I agree.
The appropriate way is not just to cold turkey, turn it off, but I don't know that there's actually any way ever to do it otherwise.
Just impossible.
shane cashman
You're right.
Tim, I'm going to run out right now.
Thank you guys for having me.
It was a lot of fun.
Brick Suit, great seeing you again.
seamus coughlin
Always great seeing you.
shane cashman
You guys can catch me on Inverted World Live at 10 o'clock to 12 o'clock.
We're going to have a lot of fun talking about the dystopia.
And we take callers.
So anyone can call in.
We start around 1030 till midnight.
You can tell us a strange story.
Talk about pterodactyls or robots or...
tim pool
Anyone can call.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
Yeah.
Mutants, werewolves.
tim pool
And so what happens is everybody watching IRL, when we rap, just like a TV station, it auto-plays an inverted world.
So if you're hanging out, when IRL ends on YouTube, if you don't come watch the uncensored show on Rumble, you will join Shane and you can call in.
unidentified
Yep.
shane cashman
Thank you for that.
I'll see you guys later.
blake brick suit marnell
Maybe A1 Atlas will call in.
shane cashman
Maybe.
Maybe.
I'll let you know, dude.
tim pool
All right.
Aliens.
All right.
Rocket Theology says snap ending is a preview of the coming Social Security Medicare collapse.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
Very true.
Princess Blunderpan says, we're due for early 2000s Napster culture to transgress to new medias.
Who is authentic and hasn't sold out?
tate brown
Yeah, something interesting I wanted to say when we were talking about dead internet theory, this point's been made by a few guys online is that a lot of these older websites are just cleaning out the data because it costs a lot of money to store this data.
So we grew up saying everything on the internet is permanent, you know, nothing goes away.
But it's actually not the case.
Like these companies, and now you're seeing bigger companies like Google, Facebook, et cetera, saying like, hey, we're going to have to expunge the data stores at some point and they're going to clean out a lot of this data.
So we could get to a point where stuff that's posted online actually only stays up.
Like you see people all the time saying, does anyone have this old forum post or this old photo or this old video?
And it's just lost forever because where it was stored got cleaned out.
blake brick suit marnell
There used to be utility to that when all the data was created by people.
tate brown
Yeah, yes.
blake brick suit marnell
So you were actually archiving something that was human created.
But as more and more of content online is artificially created, what's the utility of keeping that around?
Yeah.
There's less.
tate brown
Especially because that's why the LLMs are getting worse because now the data they're being fed is from other AIs.
And so as we continue to expunge data, that whatever data left was created by human beings, yeah, we're just going to get into this cycle where it's just AI feeding itself its own data and everything's just going to get worse and worse and worse.
tim pool
Like we showed that from multiplicity with Michael Keaton where he clones himself and then he comes home one day and there's another clone, but it's retarded.
And they're like, you know, you make a copy of a copy and it's not as good.
It's basically what happened.
unidentified
Yeah.
All right.
tim pool
Brian says, you need to check out check Ian Carroll's video from Monday about Kirk.
He found Google searches from long before the assassination, like July, August, connected to the shooting and planning of it.
It's scary.
I will check it out.
To be fair, Ian did claim once that I was trying to buy the Daily Wire.
Which is not correct, but we all make mistakes.
So I'll look into it.
Let's see what else we got going on.
We'll grab some more.
Let's see.
General Kale says, I've never seen a skinny person use an EBT card.
Hmm.
Interesting point.
I did receive EBT benefits one time.
When I moved to Seattle and I was trying to find a job, it was not so easy.
And I wasn't able to find one right away.
And so I had a bunch of people say, like, go to DSHS or the Department of Health, DHSSH or something like that.
And I said, sure, went.
And they said they'd give me $140 a month until I found a job.
And then I did.
And I got off it.
And that's why I'm in favor of these things.
I moved there with money, thought I had enough, fell into some unforeseen circumstances, ran out of money, and then said, crap, what do I do?
And I got it for, I think, like two months.
And about a month and a half in, got a job, and then said, thank you, and I don't need anymore.
So I'm a fan.
I just think there's legitimate use cases.
I'm not even going to argue that mine was perfectly legitimate in that I chose to move to a place and should have foreseen the potential pitfalls of moving to said place.
blake brick suit marnell
You weren't abusing it.
No, I weren't abusing.
You didn't go into it with bad intentions of like, I'm going to defraud the government to get these benefits.
tim pool
Right.
I think I was like 21 and I burned up my savings and then I eventually got a job at a Pete's coffee and tea.
And then I was like, there we go.
Didn't need it anymore.
Didn't want it.
And for me, like, I was embarrassed to say that I was getting it.
And then all these people around me being like, dude, you pay taxes for this stuff.
You can't, like, you're looking for work.
Take it.
I said, sure.
I think it was like $137 a month.
And you can only buy cold groceries with it.
And so I'd buy like milk, bread, and eggs and stuff.
And then I got a job at a Pete's.
And I was like, let's roll.
That's why I'm a, that's why I'm a fan of these things.
I've also clicked at unemployment before.
I got fired from a job.
Yeah.
And then I was like, what do I do?
I was fired.
It was not my fault.
Applied for unemployment.
And I was like, this is fantastic.
And it only paid me like, I think it was like 200 bucks a month.
It barely did anything for me.
But when I got unemployment, I also was not getting food stamps.
I got fired from my job, got unemployment, and I was able to sleep on a floor for $150 and then use the 50 bucks.
This is a long story.
It's crazy.
I was in a lawsuit with a company.
Whole crazy thing happened.
And so I'm not opposed to it.
tate brown
Yeah, yeah.
Part of the problem was, yeah, the mentality around handouts changed where it used to be quite shameful, embarrassing, et cetera, et cetera.
And now people boasted about it.
Like you saw during COVID, so many TikToks of like, here's the best way to scam your fellow Americans out of their money.
And it was just like totally absurd.
And that's another thing.
It's like these people aren't dumb because some of the ways that they are able to scam these welfare systems, I'm sitting there watching, like, that's actually genius.
It's a genius way to scam.
So I'm like, it's not a shortage of intellect that people are robbing and off the teeth of the government.
seamus coughlin
I think it's very instructive because what often happens is people will have a mental model for how the world works, which is based on some traditional understanding because they've had to live the traditional understanding of things out to some degree.
So again, historically, if you went broke, you relied on your community, you relied on your family, you relied on your friends.
So when we first started these welfare programs on a larger scale, people still had the mentality of, I got to be grateful to this.
And to be sure, some still do today.
But the more we move away from that point in history where people were directly relying on their community, the harder it is for people to mentally model like, oh, somebody in my community is doing without so that I can have this.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Indeed.
Sean H. says, as someone who worked for Snap, I can tell you that certain states have emergency funds in their budgets, mostly in Republican states like Virginia, but places like Maryland, their states are bankrupt thanks to DEI funding.
And because money is fungible, the concern is the feds will send money to the states for these benefits.
So let's say California's got a million bucks and they go, crap, we have to use this million dollars for welfare benefits, otherwise people will revolt.
They then say, hey, Fed, we're broke.
We need money.
The Fed says, okay, we're going to send you a million dollars.
The state then goes, that million dollars we'll take and give for benefits.
And the million dollars we were going to spend, we'll take and spend on illegal immigrants or something.
seamus coughlin
Well, yeah, exactly.
This is one of those tricky things Planned Parenthood used to do where they go like, oh, we don't spend any of the federal funding we get on abortion.
It's like the federal funds free up your resources so you're able to do horrible things like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Yeah.
blake brick suit marnell
And they did horrible things.
seamus coughlin
Yes.
blake brick suit marnell
Without a doubt.
seamus coughlin
Without question.
I mean, their whole model is killing babies.
tim pool
Text Ray says, Tim Burchett, the congressman from Tennessee makes skateboards from bamboo.
Y'all should collab.
Actually, we wanted to do a Riley Moore and Tim Burchett congressional team series.
So I don't know what the rules are because they're members of Congress.
I think as long as they don't get anything from it, so that like we can just make a Riley Moore congressional pro model and a Tim Burchett pro model.
Riley Moore actually, I would estimate that as a young man, he was probably a top-tier skateboarder.
Now he's in his 40s and he's a dad member of Congress.
He still skates.
He did a kickflip on the bank here.
Probably the only member of Congress who can do a kickflip.
seamus coughlin
He should run on that.
tate brown
He's so humble about it.
Remember, Oran was like, he skates?
tim pool
Remember Beto?
blake brick suit marnell
Beto's a person.
seamus coughlin
That's right.
How can I forget Beto?
tim pool
So when I watched Beto ride the board, he clearly, like, guys, okay, real skateboarders know when some, like, you can tell someone's level of skateboard skill by how they carry themselves when they're riding or holding the board.
It really is just that obvious.
And when Beto jumped on the board, every skateboard in the world were like, that guy can't skate.
seamus coughlin
Well, you got to remember, like, with skating, you can be really good when you're young, but if you're a woman, it just gets harder as you get older.
That was an attack on Beto O'Rourke's masculinity.
tim pool
Oh, you're calling him a woman.
I thought you were going to keep going.
seamus coughlin
I was like, no, no, no, no.
That was it.
tim pool
All right, let's see what else we got.
Nathan O'Connell says, Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, anyone overweight should immediately lose their benefits.
And those continuing to receive those funds should be for uncooked meats, fruits, and vegetables.
Agreed.
I'm not kidding.
You want free stuff.
Okay, I'm going to say it again.
I received EBT when I lived in Seattle.
And I received unemployment when I lived in Chicago.
And if they said you can't be overweight, I'd be like, okay.
Somebody shows up and they're morbidly obese and it's like, I need food money.
It's like, do you?
No, because what people need to understand, what's really kind of crazy about being overweight is that you have to continually eat to maintain the fat.
seamus coughlin
That weight, that's right.
tim pool
So if you are fat, let's say you're, you know, like the fat itself has a caloric requirement.
unidentified
Absolutely.
tim pool
So let's say you're 100 pounds overweight because you eat too much.
If you then go back to eating a normal amount, the fat will just burn off and slowly be consumed because it can't sustain itself.
So this is the crazy thing.
When you see someone morbidly obese, it means that they're eating in excess to maintain the excess of their bodies.
They could literally just go back to eating a normal meal and they drop a massive amount of weight.
seamus coughlin
Well, and this is another huge part of this concern with SNAP being used to purchase processed junk foods is that we end up spending countless millions, hundreds of millions on healthcare benefits for the back end.
tim pool
They can't take care of themselves.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
It's insanely expensive.
So we spend welfare money feeding people poison, and then they end up being a burden on our healthcare system.
And not only do we spend money on that, but it actually drives healthcare costs up for everyone else because the system can only ration with the price point.
tim pool
Let's see.
Educated Hillbilly says Snap should be distributed like the ration stamps during World War II.
It should make folks think about their choices, their budgets, and whether you want the government telling you what you can buy.
I got a better idea.
No more EBT.
Gone.
Permanently.
Across the board.
Look, at the federal level, what they can do, the states do their own thing, but replace the program with stores instead will have a certain individuals will be able to pick up a bag.
And when you go to the store and you're receiving food benefits, it is a quart of milk, a loaf of bread, some eggs and butter, and maybe some flour and salt.
blake brick suit marnell
And they say, I got the brick of cheese in there.
The five-pound block of cheese.
You got to pay in that.
tim pool
Those were the days, man.
The government cheese.
blake brick suit marnell
Yeah.
Got to have that.
tim pool
Government literally sent people cheese.
blake brick suit marnell
Yeah.
tim pool
Amazing.
tate brown
Yeah.
They used to like when they would like when they went like welfare from upper country.
blake brick suit marnell
I just like that it's a brick of cheese.
tim pool
That's right.
blake brick suit marnell
I mean, that's, see, I'm in favor of bricks.
tim pool
Government cheese, baby.
tate brown
That was like when welfare was first introduced is they would literally just put a crate on your, on your porch that just said eight on it.
And it created this like huge shame.
Like there was a lot of shame of like your neighbors would see just a crate that said eight on it.
Like, oh, wow, the Johnsons aren't doing so well.
tim pool
When I lived in Seattle, there was a food bank in my neighborhood.
And the way it worked is you'd go in and they'd have a bag, a brown paper bag, and they would put a can of beans, a small little thing of flour, a loaf of bread, and like some milk.
And that was it.
They also had.
blake brick suit marnell
They assumed you could cook.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
blake brick suit marnell
People wouldn't know what to do with it.
tim pool
No, no, no.
I think their attitude is largely eat what you can eat.
Flour?
blake brick suit marnell
What do you do with that?
tim pool
But they actually had, this is the Ballard Food Bank.
I thought it was at the library, actually.
They had, at any point, you could walk in and there was a whole shelf of bread.
You could just walk up and grab a loaf and walk out.
And it's because their attitude was like there are bakeries that when the day-old bread gets tossed, they put it in the food bank for an extra day or two to see if it's better than going to a landfill.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And people seem to be generally okay with it.
The issue, however, I'll tell you this, because I knew some people in Seattle.
They had a calendar of all the food banks of what days.
And they would just go to every different food bank every day and stock up their refrigerators and everything.
And you know, my attitude with that is the food was always like near expiration and donated.
So I really have a problem with it.
The food banks collected food and then gave it out to people who wanted it.
And it seemed to work for them instead of just throwing it out.
In Chicago, they get a lot of the hippies are pissed because there will be a bakery and they'll throw away all their breads at the end of the day and then padlock the dumpster to make sure nobody eats it.
And it's just like, I understand the capitalistic need to be like, you can't have free stuff, but come on, man.
I remember when I was like 16, me and my friends went to a Burger King and it was like just at 11 or whatever, breakfast was ending.
And we walked in and we were like, you got to still have breakfast?
And the guy's like, nah, you can have it all.
And then he had like a bunch of sandwiches.
He's like, there you go.
It's garbage.
And we were like, yeah, that's awesome.
tate brown
Yeah.
When I lived in Manhattan, like, I was not making Manhattan money.
So there was this app.
They needed to pay us to plug it.
But it would basically all these restaurants, like at the end of the day, the food they just had to offload, they would list it on this app and just be a bag of like random stuff.
And that's how I was able to eat.
seamus coughlin
Wow.
tate brown
Because I would just, it would be like five bucks and then you get a bag and that's like two or three days worth of food.
And then the process, you try a restaurant that would be out of your price point.
Yeah, that.
And then, yeah, in college, the Burger King on campus, like I would go right before closing and I would just order a fry and then they would just fill the bag up with all the fries and then I'd take it back and I'd be like, guys, I got us.
I'm feeding us all tonight.
seamus coughlin
That's awesome.
tim pool
When I first moved to Seattle, my brother and I had a big thing of change.
And we went to a gas station and we were going to, I was like, they had breakfast sandwiches for like $1.29.
And so I was like, I'm really sorry about this, but I got a bunch of nickels, pennies, and dimes.
And I started counting them out.
I was like, and the guy was like, oh, bro, breakfast is over.
We're going to toss them.
Just take the sandwiches.
I don't want the change.
And I was like, let's get it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, super cool.
David Cassidy says, Hopefully you've seen the series, but Farscape had an episode.
The biggest industry was lawyers.
Life there was over political and law was the weapon.
There's also a movie with James Mars that I think is in it.
And a bunch of celebrities.
Do you know which one this movie I'm talking about?
Where it's like the guy goes on the road trip.
What's that movie?
Anyone know I'm talking about?
seamus coughlin
The guy goes on a road trip and it's a bunch of celebrities.
Is that the one where they're smuggling drugs?
unidentified
No, no.
tim pool
It was maybe the guy who did Back to the Future.
But he finds himself in a town where everyone's lawyers and they're all suing each other.
Interstate 60, that's what it's called.
seamus coughlin
That's hilarious.
tim pool
Yeah, Gary Oldman's in it.
And it's about, what is it that Gary Oldman plays a genie or something?
What is this?
unidentified
Genre road trip.
blake brick suit marnell
I have honestly never heard of this film.
tim pool
Yeah, Gary Oldman, he plays a fake folk genie who is the devil, I guess, or something.
Made by the same guy who made Back to the Future and what is it?
OW Grant.
unidentified
Yeah, One Wish Grant.
tim pool
Yeah, very clever.
And then he tricks people.
And so it's like the movie's really goofy.
It's like a cult classic now because no one ever actually liked it.
But there's like a scene where this old guy eats like 13 entrees.
And it's because he wished he could eat more because he loved trying all the different food.
And so the evil genie guy made it so that he has to eat nonstop forever.
seamus coughlin
Oh, no.
tim pool
It was a weird movie.
Anyway, guys, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show at rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL.
So smash the like button.
Share the show with everyone you know.
Make sure you go to boonieshq.com, pick up your Jason, the Jason Ellis board.
I think there's like 10 left, if like less than that.
Cody Max, the limited edition boards are selling out super quick.
It's really amazing.
Check it out.
Follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast and Brickstead.
You want to shout anything out?
blake brick suit marnell
Yeah.
The only shout out I've got is if you're in California or Pennsylvania or Virginia or New Jersey, get out and vote.
Don't sit on your butt.
Get out and vote.
tate brown
That's right.
Yeah.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at Realtate Brown.
And yes, go vote, especially New Jersey.
It's razor tight.
Get out there.
Let's go.
seamus coughlin
I'm Seamus Coglin.
I'm the creator of Freedom Tunes.
We've made hundreds of animated videos.
The left owns entertainment.
A lot of the stuff the right is trying to make is really cheesy and not very good, unfortunately.
That's why myself and my team with a proven track record of making entertaining content are stepping out into making a full-length animated show.
It's called Twisted Plots.
It's an anthology series, and the right-wing message comes out through storytelling and jokes instead of ham-fisted monologues or preaching.
If you want to help us beat Hollywood, we've only got three weeks left to get this totally funded.
If you want to help us compete against Hollywood, go to twistedplots.com, support the cause.
We're going to make entertaining content.
unidentified
It's going to be the future of conservative content.
And if you would see, if you would see as I see, as Tim says.
tim pool
So, anyway, last Friday, we did a pre-record.
We pre-recorded the show a few hours early and then aired it at the normal time, and it actually worked ridiculously well.
It allowed us to do this VIP backstage for the Discord community.
So we had about 110 people listening to the whole pre-production process where we're goofing off and pulling up stories and then the full show.
So it actually turns it into basically a three-hour version of the show for our Discord members.
And it works so well.
We're going to try it again this Friday and see if it is something that works for you guys.
Here's the thing about Fridays: news typically dies off in the afternoon.
And then when we do the show late at night live, the thing about Friday is that around half the people who watch the Friday episodes are watching Saturday morning, Sunday morning, and Monday morning because it's Friday night.
Everyone wants to go out and party.
So for us, we were like, it makes more sense than to pre-record when the news is hot, upload at the normal time, but people largely just watch over the weekend as it is for Friday.
So it frees up time for us, a 0.01% security benefit, but not super, you know, you know, beneficial.
But that's what we're going to try this Friday as well, which means if you go to Timcast.com, click join us in the Discord server.
Friday at around one o'clock, we go live for the Discord members behind the scenes backstage for the pre-production of Timcast IRL.
Hear us talk to our guests, goofing off, picking stories.
And then when we go to super chats for Friday, it's actually your comments from the Discord community.
So check it out.
Thanks, Frank and everybody.
And we'll see you all over at Rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
Hey, let's get it.
So, Bricks was just asking about how the boards are done.
And so, it's kind of a crazy story.
We had a company that was distributing for us, and they went out of business.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
The skateboarding is collapsing.
And so, they just sent us directly to the manufacturer.
So, we lost our distributor, but the manufacturer doesn't want to go to business either.
So, they were like, we're going to pick up distribution for you guys, which is fantastic, which actually lowers our costs by a small percent.
blake brick suit marnell
So, you cut out a middleman.
tim pool
Yeah.
But the middleman was actually important.
blake brick suit marnell
Okay.
tim pool
So, but it's okay.
We adapt.
And the manufacturer is going to pick this up for us, which is fantastic.
And it's a shame because we don't want skate companies to be collapsing like this, but it is what it is.
So basically, what happens is we design the boards.
We get sent a variety of samples.
We send them shapes.
We discuss the sizes we want.
We go for very standard sizes: 7758, 825, and 85.
Though some people like non-traditional sizes or like 813s and 862, it's weird.
838.
Yeah, people like those sizes.
And then they will print out the, they will press the graphic onto the board and then ship it out.
So basically, what's happening for the, I think we've probably got like 10 boards left of the Timpool sold out already.
That's crazy.
You guys, wow, you rock.
The way it works is there's 55 boards of various sizes, and then there's 55 graphics.
And so the graphics can be applied to any board.
And we told them to fill them out as they see fit.
So we don't choose.
When you buy a board, it goes right to the manufacturer, and then they decide randomly or somehow to apply the graphic to the board.
Some of them will be golden with a serial number.
blank out of five.
For the next series we're going to do, we figured out it's so the reason why we did blank out of five is because they're going to handwrite with gold the numbers.
blake brick suit marnell
What if I change my name to give me gold board?
Will I be more likely to get a gold board?
tim pool
I don't think so because I think it's by order number.
It'll be like 132965.
blake brick suit marnell
I was looking for a way to game the system.
I am.
Yeah.
tim pool
But the next boards, we're going to hard print individual graphics.
So the thing is, when you print out a graphic, you're supposed to buy a lot.
They expect you to buy hundreds.
Keeps the costs low.
Correct.
When you purchase a single print, it's like $12 or something, which makes the board cost like $45 to $50.
unidentified
Got it.
tim pool
But if you, for obvious reasons, the more you buy cheaper it gets.
But what we're going to do for the next run, we're working on the next graphic set.
It's going to be, I think, weapons themed.
And we're going to hard print 1, 5, 2, 5, 3, 5, 4, 5, and 5, 5.
We're also doing that because the other thing we need to consider is the potential for people to try and rip these off and stuff like that, which is difficult.
They might.
I'm not saying I think these things are going to be worth a ridiculous amount of money or anything like that.
We just wanted to make – I'll put it like this.
We know these boards are wall pieces for the most part.
People who are super into skateboarding will skate a spoon.
Like we had a pro here, and he was on a spoon-shaped skateboard that he was riding of ours because he thought it was funny.
So pros, just give them a blank board.
I don't care what's on it.
That's why we have the cheaper models.
The $50 ones, B Gay, Don't Be Gay, uncancelable.
Those are the team boards.
And, you know, they're the ones we're just, we're selling these at 40 because we're just, oh, look at that.
Richie sold out already.
Wow.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Holy crap.
Amazing.
It's time for these to move on.
They've been here for like a year or longer, and so we're going to move them all out.
Step on Sneck and Find Out will be gone.
Boobies will be gone.
And I know those are big favorites.
So is Right to Bear Arms.
I'm sorry, to Arm Bears.
That's Sam's pro model, and Sam's no longer working here, so we're not going to bring that back ever.
Right to Arm Bears will be gone forever.
That's his.
And then Step on Sneck and Boobies will get a, well, actually, Boobies is also Sam's, but we are planning on doing an animal theme with a blue-footed booby, which is slightly different for Arm Bears.
Step on Snack and Find Out will get a new edition.
When we launch that one, it's probably going to be a redesign in a similar way, but different.
And this will be probably in a few months.
We're probably going to do a couple hundred of them and have maybe like 20 golden serialized.
The reason why Step on Snec has been the biggest seller, period, for us, although it's fallen in popularity.
We'll revive it.
So anyway, that's what we're looking at.
In the meantime, we can talk about this.
This guy put a bounty on Pam Bondi.
He made a picture of her.
It said wanted dead or alive, $45,000 and said, preferably dead.
Here's the thing.
I don't think this guy was serious.
He then commented cough cough.
I think he's half serious, like he really wants her dead.
I don't think he thought what he was posting was legitimately a bounty, like he actually has 45 grand, but it don't matter.
And that's the point.
You cannot tell someone you will pay them to murder someone else, anyone else, and then not go to prison.
You go to jail for it, and I'm glad they arrested him.
seamus coughlin
A guy went to jail over a meme telling people to text their votes in.
tim pool
And the woman who said the same thing did not.
That's right.
Indeed.
Man, it's getting crazy out there, boys.
It's getting crazy out there.
What do you think?
I mean, with all this violence we've seen, these terror attacks, now, fuck, if these, if these welfare benefits, like there's going to be people who are apolitical and they're going to be out for blood for the Trump administration.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I think there's true.
blake brick suit marnell
I'm just, you know, I just hope it gets resolved.
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