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Oct. 17, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Trump Admin CATCHES Illegal Immigrant POLICE OFFICER, Democrats ARM Illegal In Chicago | Timcast IRL
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adam johnson
07:21
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curtis sliwa
06:35
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phil labonte
11:35
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seamus coughlin
16:56
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tim pool
59:12
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zohran mamdani
05:54
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andrew cuomo
04:44
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david ushery
02:14
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mary morgan
04:15
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melissa russo
02:24
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sally goldenberg
01:31
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ben shapiro
00:24
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jb pritzker
00:40
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tim pool
Believe it or not, Ice arrested a cop in Chicago in a suburb.
There was a police officer who is actually an illegal immigrant.
And this story actually is blowing up across the internet because people are shocked to discover that there are illegal immigrant police officers.
But uh there's a ton.
You know, in California, they've got a bunch.
There are DACA recipient police officers.
These Democrat jurisdictions have been giving governmental public authority to arrest.
They're giving non-citizens the right to arrest American citizens.
And now when IC goes into Chicago, this is what happens.
I got a prediction for this weekend, and uh, I hope I'm wrong.
The No Kings protests are expected to be all across the country, massive in Washington, DC, but also in Chicago, New York, LA, Portland.
Well, uh, in the past couple of weeks, we've had some uh, let's just say detrimental rulings from judges in Illinois.
Trump can't deploy the National Guard.
Ice can't put up security barriers.
And uh, what do you think's gonna happen when you get a mass mass protest in an area where police have been instructed they can't defend themselves, and the National Guard can't be deployed to protect them, and CPD has been told to stand down, and there have been three rammings of DHS agents already.
I hope I'm wrong.
But it sounds like this weekend could be uh uh pretty pretty bad.
Now we got some other stories.
Uh, John Bolton got indicted.
Surprisingly, it's not our lead because well it's a big news, but Bolton's not like a high level politician or anything.
He's just kind of a bad dude who ran with some bad boys.
So him getting indicted is news.
But uh, I'll tell you what's really interesting.
Call she is now predicting that the midterm race is fifty fifty.
This box the historical trend of the opposition party winning the midterms.
Now we're still a year away, but the prediction market Is saying Republicans, it's a coin toss that they maintain control of the house.
This is gonna get crazy, ladies and gentlemen.
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Joining us tonight, my friends, talk about this and so much more.
We've got Adam Johnson.
adam johnson
Hey, what's going on, everyone?
tim pool
Uh, who are you?
What do you do?
adam johnson
Oh, my name is Adam Johnson, a recently pardoned terrorist, terrible human being in general.
If you ask half the population, um former speaker of the house.
Former speaker of the house, short of tenure, but you know, I earned it.
Um I have a book out.
It's been uh five years in the making.
The government told me part of the plea deal was I couldn't write a book and sell it, but uh since the pardon I can, so it's called Take Gay Stand.
And you can buy it on my website, unlicensed furniture movers.com.
tim pool
Did you use uh a uh pseudonym for your your book, Via Getty?
adam johnson
I did not.
Um, it's actually written by a guy you saw on the internet once.
tim pool
Uh is that what it says?
adam johnson
It says that.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So for those that don't know, um, when the first photo came out of Adam carrying the the lecture, like you picked it up and put it down basically.
They uh it said the photo was Viagetti, which means Getty's image distribution, and well, like some liberals thought your name was Viagetti.
unidentified
Yes, yes.
adam johnson
There's actually a pretty prominent journalist that made a tweet about it saying, uh, this is Via Getty.
If you have any information, please let us know.
tim pool
Do you guys remember when um I can't remember the guy's name?
He was at Ferguson during the riots.
phil labonte
Yeah, I know.
tim pool
And there were some earplugs on the ground.
He's like, are these rubber bullets?
And like all so it's funny because like me and my buddies who did like actual conflict reporting face palmed in embarrassment.
Like, why are you here?
You know?
But uh Adam, it's great to have you back on the show.
So it should be fun and funny.
We look uh forward to hearing from you.
We got Seamus hanging out.
seamus coughlin
My name's Seamus Coglin.
Over the past 11 years, myself and my team have created over 600 animated cartoons.
And the reason we're doing this is because you can't win the culture war without creating culture.
And as it currently stands, the entertainment industry is dominated by people who hate our values, who hate our way of life, and who I believe hate our country.
If you want to help us fight back and become the new entertainment media and compete with Hollywood, help us create the show that we're currently working to fund.
We've already made the 25 minute long pilot.
The show is called Twisted Plots.
It's an anthology series that promotes our values, not through ham fisted monologues or preaching, but good story and good jokes.
So go over to twisted plots.com, help us fight this culture war.
Again, we can't do it without making culture.
Thank you so much.
tim pool
And if you would see as I see, and you would seek as I seek, that I ask you all to go to twistedplots.com and give fifty dollars now to win the culture war.
Uh I could I could go up, but come on.
You know, I keep telling Seamus, it's just quote V for Vendetta, you know.
Mary's hanging out.
mary morgan
Hi, everyone.
My name is Mary Morgan.
You can usually find me on Pop Culture Crisis here at Timcast.
We're actually gonna have Seamus on tomorrow.
And I'm glad that you broke the ice with your shilling there because I have some shilling to do as well.
I'm currently enjoying a cup of my very own Mary's Ghost Blend, which you can now get at Castbrew.com.
It's s'mores flavored, it's perfect for autumn nights.
You're chilling around the campfire, you're telling ghost stories.
It's perfect for this season, so make sure you get a bag before Halloween.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Philibonti.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Buy their stuff.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
So much to buy.
Here's a story from CNN.
ICE arrests police officer in Chicago suburb and accuses him of being in the U.S. illegally.
A lot of people are really shocked by the story, but what I find really funny about it is that uh we've known there are illegal immigrant police officers for some time.
This is just starting to shock people, so it is the lead.
Check this out.
ICE agents arrested a police officer Thursday morning in the Chicago suburb of Hanover Park.
I once lived there briefly, accusing him of being an unlawful immigrant.
I like I say unlawful from Montenegro.
The DHS officer, uh I'm sorry, DJ says the officer, Radul Bojevic, is that he said that Bohovich?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Overstated tourist visa that expired in 2015.
According to the department, Bojovic was encountered during a targeted enforcement action in ICE's immigration-focused operation in Illinois.
Hanover Park Police Department shared a Facebook post in August announcing uh Bochevic's recent graduation from the suburban law enforcement academy, and they had started an intensive 15-week weeks of field training and evaluation as he continues preparing to serve the Hanover Park community.
CNN reached out to the Hanover Park police for comment and has attempted to contact Bojevic.
Is it Boyovich?
I don't know if you pronounce it Boyovich.
Uh he violated our nation's laws and was living illegally in the US for 10 years.
What kind of police department gives criminal illegal aliens badges and guns?
It's a felony for aliens to even possess a firearm.
A law enforcement officer who was actively breaking the law said DHS assistant secretary Trisha McLaughlin in a statement to CNN on Thursday.
In September, ICE agents arrested the superintendent of Iowa's largest school district, accusing him of being in the country illegally since the early 2000s.
I don't oh, and by the way, uh leftists, he's white.
phil labonte
Right.
It's a big deal.
seamus coughlin
That proves it.
Wait a minute.
So you're telling me it's not motivated by racism?
phil labonte
No, that's proof that's proof that it is racism.
They're only doing it because he's white.
Yeah, because all the things.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
The fact that he was able to become a cop proves racism exists.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
phil labonte
All the Latinos are all they're all Spanish descent, so they're white too.
So that's why it's all racism.
seamus coughlin
That's a very good point.
tim pool
This is um, I don't think people understand the extent to which the Democrats over the past 10 or so years, longer, 20, have been literally shredding this country up.
We sat here for the most part, American citizens, assuming that our leaders were being good stewards of our American tradition and this country.
They were actually opening the door for non-citizens to vote, to be law enforcement officers, to work in our public institutions.
They were attempting to dismantle this country.
And wait, there's more.
Take a look at this from the LA Times.
This is from earlier in the year.
LAPDS immigrant officers protected by DACA.
In other words, they have illegal immigrant police officers that have deferred status.
That is the current state.
Could Trump try to deport them?
Um, yes.
He could rescind DACA, and he should.
And it is insane that we've come to this point.
And I know there's gonna be a lot of people.
You know, Rogan was saying recently, like these guys have been here for twenty years, have a heart, they should stay.
This is the same argument they made in the eighties and the nineties.
And every single time they promise they will not do it again.
They'll say, Okay, let's grant amnesty to these people who've been here for like twenty years, but we just won't do it again.
And then they do.
So it is not callous to say, guys, three strikes and you're out.
phil labonte
Look, everyone that's illegal has to go.
Don't think all there is to it.
adam johnson
Don't they do background checks?
Shouldn't this a flag somewhere?
I know that when I was on uh federal probation, I couldn't get a job at Walmart and McDonald's.
So one of the requirements was he had to be gainfully employed or go to college.
So I couldn't get a job at Walmart or um or McDonald's because I had a felony theft that I was charged with.
They said I was a loss prevention issue.
phil labonte
So I assume that they if they did do or the my assumption, right?
This isn't like I know anything, but I assume that they were going by the standard set by the Obama administration, which was DACA recipients can stay and they get to be treated as if they're they're legally here.
So if that is the case, and again, this is just an assumption.
If that's the case, it does make sense.
They would be like, well, it's fine, he's he's a divert action.
So because he's deferred action, we're gonna go ahead and allow him to get a job.
adam johnson
Well, I know in Iowa they used a third party to do the background check on the superintendent.
So they washed their hands of it, said this isn't our fault.
We used a party, they must have missed it.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, I I don't know what the deal is, obviously, but like now, new sheriffs in town, gotta go.
I don't care.
adam johnson
All of them.
seamus coughlin
But have you guys considered that no human being is illegal?
phil labonte
Uh I have considered that, and then I rejected it out of hand because it's dumb.
What's gotta go back?
Everybody here, everybody that's here illegally has to go.
Goodbye.
adam johnson
I was told that trespassing is bad.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
phil labonte
Exactly.
You were, weren't you?
Someone said that a little while ago.
tim pool
Who said that's that's not correct.
You you're allowed to go wherever you want, whenever you want, and stay there forever.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
adam johnson
Oh, okay.
seamus coughlin
Because borders are an imaginary line.
adam johnson
I think that's a good thing.
seamus coughlin
That's what I was told.
Oh, that borders are an imaginary line.
What can I do about it?
tim pool
I think when people start to realize how many people have been granted authority.
I mean, Democrats in San Francisco, I think or I'm sorry, it might have been Sacramento, but California and New York were tr we're trying to pass or uh uh city uh resolutions that illegal immigrants would be able to vote.
Um the argument was if you live here, you can vote.
Now, of course the Democrats are gonna argue, no, no, this wasn't about illegal immigrants, but that's the game they play because to a Democrat, no one's illegal.
seamus coughlin
Yep.
tim pool
So literally, by virtue of being here, you're our neighbor.
seamus coughlin
Now what happens we haven't made yet?
That's what I always say.
They're just friends we haven't made yet.
tim pool
What happens when Democrats bring in 20 million people and then Trump tries to enforce against these people who are here?
They will scream I Udemy in the streets and other illegal immigrants will attack the police to protect them.
Because uh, if you own a house and three guys break in and you, the homeowner say, get out of my house.
Do you think these men are going to say sure?
Or do you think they're gonna say, nah, we outvote you?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, they'll probably say they outvote you, they'll say squatters rights.
tim pool
They'll probably just attack you and take your stuff.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
adam johnson
They probably won't have a chance to speak in my house if they break in.
tim pool
See, that's the thing though.
Um, I I gotta I gotta pause you there.
That would be the case if you were arguing you had the monopoly on violence as the authority in your house.
But let's try another analogy.
You live in your home and you have a roommate who has asserted the authority to enforce the the rules of the apartment, and they hand their gun to one of these guys who broke in and say he's in charge now.
That's basically what we're seeing in our cities.
When you have an illegal immigrant who's a cop, he's gonna tell you what for.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
Exactly.
tim pool
He's gonna lock American citizens up, and we're gonna pay for it for these guys who are not citizens.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, it's totally wild.
I'm also curious to see what the left is gonna say about this because ICE has arrested him.
Uh are we gonna get more like flip-flopping on law enforcement?
Are they gonna start bellowing about how we need to support law enforcement in this country after they've been openly defying federal law enforcement and um ICE?
adam johnson
Well, these cities that are complaining are the same cities that were pepper bowling residents for being outside after curfew during COVID.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
adam johnson
So, you know, for them to say we we care about our citizens, but that a few short years ago we were locking people down and shooting them for being outside their front doorstep.
I mean, take a side.
phil labonte
Yeah, look.
I the only thing I have to say about this is all of the the arguments surrounding it don't matter to me.
If they're here here illegally, they gotta go.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, it doesn't matter.
tim pool
Doctor recipients.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Because if you're a DACA, if you're a DACA recipient, you can see the writing on the wall.
You need to prepare for the eventuality.
You know?
seamus coughlin
Well, and the idea that like legislatively with a wave of the wad magic wand and without these people having gone through the traditional legal process to enter, they could just be given this protected status has been the game the Democrats have been trying to play with illegal immigration for years and years.
And uh most notably under the Biden administration when they were saying these people had temporary protected status, or when activist judges set the precedent that if somebody says that they're afraid to go back or request asylum, they are therefore here legally because they're an asylum seeker.
Um it's ridiculous.
So you can't allow them to morally grandstand on this and say those people are protected, you can't send them back because they fabricated out of whole cloth a set of rules that gave those people special protections, even though they already broke immigration law to get in here.
adam johnson
Well that's why we have birthright citizenship.
It's the same thing.
They say, well, think about the children.
They use them as pawns to keep the whole family here.
That that's also gotta go.
Birthright citizen.
seamus coughlin
But but thinking about your children, that's fascism, right?
Thinking about how you can make the best possible country for your own children, that's fascism.
You have to think about everyone else's kids instead.
phil labonte
You don't have to do that.
I'm not gonna do that, and I don't care what names they call me.
They've already called me all the names.
ben shapiro
Exactly.
phil labonte
They called me all the names that they can call me.
So all of that stuff is like water off a duck's back.
I don't care.
They gotta go.
tim pool
Have you ever seen a duck in the rain?
They just they stop moving and stand there to m minimize the amount of exposure to the rain, so the water just rolls off.
Videos are hilarious.
It'll be like 10 ducks just like this.
And they don't move.
phil labonte
And it just keeps going right off, right?
tim pool
That's what we're doing, and we can't do that.
I mean, we've gotta you gotta get out of the rain, you know what I mean?
phil labonte
Well, they're gonna look whether it's rainy or not, they're gonna call me names, so I don't care.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Um I think sh I think Chicago this weekend is gonna get absolutely insane.
They the judge said no barriers, the judge said no national guard, and now you've got exposed DHS that have already been rammed numerous times.
So it's almost like the the the judges are intentionally creating a circumstance where there's going to be murders.
Or or they're gonna force the cops to engage rioters during the No Kings protests.
Uh I got a question for you guys.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Um, should we watch the New York City debate?
They're at the halfway mark.
seamus coughlin
Um I'd be interested in seeing snippets of it.
tim pool
Let's uh let's let's let's let's roll with it.
Let's let's let's jump to the uh New York City mayoral debate.
Cause uh, you know, we'll see what we got going on.
andrew cuomo
In Albany, as a sponsor to decriminalize prostitution.
zohran mamdani
The difference between myself and Andrew Cuomo, of which there are many, is that there is no one.
andrew cuomo
Woman who is a prostitute, that would be decriminal.
That is what the bill says.
And that's what he said if you listen very carefully.
That would take Roosevelt Avenue and explode it.
Because it would make it legal for prostitutes.
unidentified
But real quick, how would you have citizens?
andrew cuomo
I went to Roosevelt Avenue.
I talked to the store owners, I talked to the neighbors.
unidentified
I walked down Roosevelt Avenue with prostitutes there at nine o'clock in the morning.
tim pool
Wait, why would you not against the healthcare?
And in the morning, yeah, why was he doing that?
curtis sliwa
With open air prostitution and Times Square.
You don't go after the women.
The women are the victims here.
tim pool
Oh shit.
curtis sliwa
Lock up the Johns, you shame the Johns.
You let everybody know about the Johns.
The madams and the pimps need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
And these absentee landlords who knowingly rent their rooms, their appropriate use of prostitution.
The department of buildings should come in, padlock the building, see.
Many of these high lords live in Delaway, Florida.
seamus coughlin
Sometimes it is sex tracking.
It's not a good thing.
unidentified
But when it's tax quo becomes like never choosing to do this, doing it again.
curtis sliwa
And so enforcement.
That's why the prostitution for the city is a very good thing.
sally goldenberg
Thank you, David.
We're gonna talk a bit about experience and beliefs.
seamus coughlin
As long as they're in birthday government, I actually want to punish landlords who don't house prostitutes.
sally goldenberg
But you pretty squarely lost the Democratic primary to Mr. Mamdani, forcing you, a lifelong Democrat to run as an independent.
When you announced that decision, you said, quote, when you get knocked down, learn the lesson and pick yourself back up.
What lesson did you learn and what do you feel it said about you, something you did wrong, something that you need to change about yourself?
andrew cuomo
Yeah.
I think uh in the primary campaign, I did not do enough on social media, uh, which is a very effective medium now.
Uh I think the assemblyman did do a better job on TikTok and social media than I did during the campaign.
Uh and that has uh changed now.
Um I've also uh increased my activity significantly.
Uh but my my agenda is exactly the same.
Uh I am the Democrat, although I'm not on the Democratic line.
Uh he is a democratic socialist, called Barack Obama evil and a liar, didn't vote for Kamala Harris.
Fight and deliver is I will fight for people, I will fight the bureaucracy, and I will deliver results.
New Yorkers need the mayor to get something done.
This is all words and theories.
sally goldenberg
This is a question about the case.
tim pool
Because for like someone like me in New York, if there was someone like me who didn't have no idea who was a Red World, or any other DPS, you called Brock Obama a liar campaign and didn't vote for Kamala.
So I'd be uh tell me more.
zohran mamdani
I'll be so like I just have to say it's been an hour and twenty minutes of this debate, and we haven't heard Governor Cuomo say the word affordability.
That's why he lost the primary, that's why he'll lose the general election.
And you can lie all you want, but the truth is.
I voted for Kamala Harris.
tim pool
I'm the only candidate on the black slide.
zohran mamdani
And I'm not the one who's funded by Bill Ackman, who called Kamala Harris unqualified to be the vice president of this country.
tim pool
Yes, saying things like that.
andrew cuomo
There are a lot of New Yorkers who su who support me.
Uh and there are a lot of Jewish New Yorkers.
Because they think you're anti-Semitic.
Uh so it's not about Trump.
seamus coughlin
It's about you it's been a lot in Florida.
david ushery
Do you think he's anti-Semitic, Mr. Cuomo?
andrew cuomo
I don't make those judgments about people.
Are you a racist?
Are you an anti-Semite?
I know there are many Jewish people who believe he is anti-Semitic.
I believe not condemning the globalized intifada, uh, what he has said about Hamas.
But Mr. I can see where they're explaining.
melissa russo
Sorry, I don't mean to interrupt.
I covered your speech in an Upper West Side Synagogue where you said anti-Zionism is anti-Semitism.
There is no difference, and you were talking about Mr. Mamdani.
Is that not an allegation that you're talking about?
andrew cuomo
No, I make that statement all the time.
I wasn't referring to Mandami.
david ushery
Okay.
All right.
What does this not respond to?
We have to move on.
zohran mamdani
I have denounced Hamas again and again, and it will never be announced.
Because what he is willing to say, even though not on this stage, is to call me the first Muslim on the precipice of leading this city a terrorist sympathizer, is to send mailers that artificially lengthen my beard.
unidentified
Okay.
melissa russo
I know that's the same question.
You are the Democratic nominee, and you're also a member, as we've been discussing, of a political organization that may be less familiar to New Yorkers, the Democratic Socialists of America, which believes in dismantling capitalism.
unidentified
New York City is the global headquarters of the finance industry.
melissa russo
So how would you be the mayor of Wall Street and the DSA?
You have one minute.
zohran mamdani
I would be the mayor of this entire city.
And that means ensuring that the wealth that we generate in this city is a very important thing.
Because what we have today is a system that has generated the most wealth in the wealthiest country in the history of the world, where one in four of our neighbors are living in poverty.
That's unacceptable.
We can't look at 500,000 kids hungry every single night as just the cost of doing business in this city.
That's something we have to actually change.
And I'm going to do that by fighting for my neighbors in Queens that I've come to know, who are not only the ones who own teapots and toy stores, who own diners and dry cleaners, but also the ones who work there.
Because right now, all of them are being pushed out of this city by corporate greed, by private equity, by a politics that refuses to fight for them.
unidentified
Just a quick follow-up, Mr. Mumt.
seamus coughlin
You know, New York might start to have problems.
unidentified
A lot of Hispanic, definitely, socialism.
seamus coughlin
Can you imagine?
unidentified
And are a little bit scared to hear your policies.
zohran mamdani
What would you tell them?
I would first say that I wouldn't be here without the support of Latino New Yorkers.
Because it was the majority of their support.
seamus coughlin
that helped to make me the Democratic nominee.
I hate that so much, man.
zohran mamdani
Democratic socialism means is a belief in the dignity of each and every New Yorker and the responsibility city government has to deliver that dignity.
tim pool
When I go to the city, that's why I'm a job.
I go to the case.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
unidentified
And then the guy said Muslim is the way that we practice our politics in this.
Exactly.
And that's why I'm not sure what I'm saying.
seamus coughlin
I've literally had people when I was at art school ahead of the running.
And they were not even Muslim.
I was like, bro, I don't miss the pronounce things in the accent native to most of the people who are in that category.
zohran mamdani
I don't like election.
seamus coughlin
When I'm talking about New York pizza, I don't call it like a New York slice.
unidentified
Why do you believe in New York?
You know to electronics.
seamus coughlin
You don't affect an accent whenever you pronounce something from a different region from New York.
phil labonte
I don't say Brooklyn like four years ago.
seamus coughlin
Unlike exactly.
curtis sliwa
Did I not?
Of course I did.
And I get praise for that.
Now I'm trying to get people to vote for me.
Not just on the Republican line, but also my wife Nancy, who is the best thing that has ever happened to me, created the first ever independent protect animals line, which calls for no-kill shelters and putting animal abusers in jail.
But the other thing that differentiates me from both of my adversaries is that I am opposed to this city of yes, which will destroy the residential neighborhood.
Both of them vote for the city of yes.
So when you vote for me, whether on the Republican line or the other, like if any of us have play his mind.
Imagine they've said, how can you courtesy Republican work with a Democratic majority in the council?
Adrian Adams is in agreement with me.
Go to the city of yes, which will take you home and provide you instead with lithium-ion battery warehouses next to your house, which are like mini Chernobyls.
I'm the only candidate who is opposed to the city of yes.
tim pool
What if Slewages wins?
unidentified
I have a quick call for that.
sally goldenberg
How do you bring down costs if you don't build more housing?
curtis sliwa
Oh, deep.
Did they change the people?
We have so many dense areas where you no longer can use the commercial space.
And you just convert into residential housing.
You don't need to go into the outer world.
You don't need to use wetlands or five lands, which they seek to do.
If you build a new a new building, it takes five years.
david ushery
If you convert in the sleeve, thank you.
We want to change the pace a little bit.
unidentified
We want to change the pace and just get a sense of what you think about leadership.
david ushery
We're curious about who you admire.
Who's the best modern day U.S. president?
Mr. Cuomo?
tim pool
Donald Trump.
andrew cuomo
Modern day.
Well, I'm partial.
I was Bill Clinton's housing and urban development secretary.
We built affordable housing all across the United States.
adam johnson
We have the best secretaries back then.
zohran mamdani
I would say FDR.
andrew cuomo
Mr. Slewer.
unidentified
Even though he put people of a specific ethnicity chance in Bureau for more than two terms.
seamus coughlin
All the things you're afraid Trump will do?
curtis sliwa
A man that ended up being loved by Democrats and Republicans alike, the greatest governor we've ever had in my lifetime, George Pataki.
Three terms, no chaos, no corruption.
I was asking, should he be president?
andrew cuomo
President, president.
david ushery
This is the president.
andrew cuomo
This governor and this president.
david ushery
Who are you as president?
Who is the best president?
curtis sliwa
The best president in our lifetime?
david ushery
Yeah.
curtis sliwa
I would say the best president in our lifetime that I've experienced.
david ushery
Right.
Okay.
How about the best New York City mayor, Mr. Sliwa?
tim pool
Yeah, that was only 40 some odd years ago.
seamus coughlin
So I just didn't expect you to say Reagan.
curtis sliwa
Rudy Giuliani, who endorsed me last week.
david ushery
Okay.
curtis sliwa
And I'd have a little bit of Michael Bloomberg thrown in because he liked Mr. Momdani's responsibility.
zohran mamdani
I think the best New York City mayor of all time is Fiorella LaGuardia.
david ushery
Mr. Cuomo.
andrew cuomo
It was Bill de Blasio last debate.
zohran mamdani
No, I've always said Fiorella is the best mayor of all time.
david ushery
Who's yours, Mr. Cuomo?
andrew cuomo
Is it of all time or modern time?
Best New York City mayor in your time it is Fiorello LaGuardia.
We agree.
Recently, I would say uh Mayor Dinkins and Mayor Bloomberg.
david ushery
Okay.
How about the political leader, dead or alive, you most admire?
Mr. Momdani.
zohran mamdani
I would say I admire Bernie Sanders.
seamus coughlin
Ugh Mr. Cuomo.
andrew cuomo
My father.
unidentified
Gross.
mary morgan
I hate a smile.
seamus coughlin
I know.
curtis sliwa
I've said it already.
seamus coughlin
George Patek's.
curtis sliwa
And the greatest mayor in our lifetime.
unidentified
All right.
curtis sliwa
Great job of the money.
david ushery
I just have one more before Sally starts to ask you about schools, a show of hands.
Who supports Kathy Hokel for re-election?
tim pool
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
zohran mamdani
It's a decision that should be made after this general election.
david ushery
So no decision.
Mr. Cuomo, you hand picked her as your lieutenant governor.
No thought.
andrew cuomo
You have to know who's running.
david ushery
Yeah.
Okay.
zohran mamdani
So I would add that I do think that Kathy Hochel, our governor, has been doing a good job, and not only does it have to be a good thing.
Not only delivering for New Yorkers, but also standing up to Donald Trump.
david ushery
Just what do you support it for reelection?
zohran mamdani
I'm focusing on November.
I appreciate her support.
unidentified
Thanks, Ken.
mary morgan
Jerry Springer on shaky cam.
unidentified
I'm about to shout out to Elise Stefanik to take out Kathy Hochul.
curtis sliwa
Republican Maya Curtis, a Republican government Stephonic, like Juliana.
david ushery
You want to talk about schools.
Sally?
sally goldenberg
Okay.
Thank you, David.
Let's turn to education.
unidentified
There are a number of things.
tim pool
It kind of feels like watching a presidential debate in France.
unidentified
One that's been controversial in the campaign is the gifted and talented program which offers accelerated instruction to elementary school children.
sally goldenberg
Mr. Mamdani, you have said that you want to phase out the gifted and talent.
Well, Mr. Cuomo and Ms. Mr. Sleewood will start with you.
unidentified
What is your plan with a win?
sally goldenberg
You have one minute.
curtis sliwa
Gifted and talent.
sally goldenberg
Yes, gifted and talented.
curtis sliwa
I have two younger sons with Melinda Katz, the Queens DA.
They both attempted to get into gifted and talented.
tim pool
He needs to just go as far right as he can, just off the deep end.
curtis sliwa
It did not be a good thing.
unidentified
He needs to just pull up the text messages from that project chart reading.
curtis sliwa
We don't have enough slots.
Right now the 1,900.
We need to have at least 5,000 slots around the city.
Well they have not done at the Department of Education is make these tests available in black and Hispanic communities.
So for instance, you have 77,000 children who are four years old.
Only 10,000 have taken the test.
Only 2,000 are accepted.
Why not offer the test to all 77,000?
And even if a gifted and talented class only has three or four in a minority school, give these children an opportunity to excel too.
That would make it fair for everybody.
sally goldenberg
Thank you, Mr. Cuomo.
How does your plan differ from the one of your favorite is?
seamus coughlin
You're like, I just wish I could vote for everyone there.
andrew cuomo
I support mayoral control.
I think it would be a good question.
tim pool
New York education.
andrew cuomo
And so in 40 years.
tim pool
It's basically like watching some post-apocalypton dystopia school and three hobos fight over the last time.
mary morgan
Trump didn't have to get a jump in in votes in New York City.
andrew cuomo
He got 30%, I think.
seamus coughlin
That's right.
unidentified
He performed shockingly well in certain blue areas.
seamus coughlin
He didn't win that, but he went, wow.
He got that many votes there?
tim pool
For those that are wondering, we were thinking about not playing the debate.
We decided to because Zobran Mamdani may end up the leader of the Democratic Party.
It's not a joke or an exaggeration.
His popularity in New York is skyrocketing.
You're going to have a Senate race coming up.
He may very well try to rocket himself to the front of the Democratic Party.
sally goldenberg
AOC can't do it.
He's a guy that's a talented program be faced.
seamus coughlin
Do you not think women are capable of the people of anything men can do while wearing heels?
tim pool
When AOC came out of that rally with what was the name, Mike Bowman or whatever.
And she was going, I was like, that raspy high-pitched voice.
seamus coughlin
Sounds a little close to the SH word, bro.
tim pool
Which one?
seamus coughlin
Shrill.
So you call it a shrill.
And I don't appreciate it.
mary morgan
She's a nasty woman.
adam johnson
She's also a good thing.
seamus coughlin
I'm not a part of this conversation.
ben shapiro
Right.
tim pool
I I'm gonna be a leftist right now and say there is inherent sexism against uh women, and AOC is not gonna be able to win.
Look, I I I've done uh nonprofit fundraising, and we talked about this all the time.
I was on uh Schab and Cowan's podcast.
I love this this this Point.
There is I'll ask you, Adam.
There are two characteristics, each one unique to a man to a woman that ensures they will be excellent fundraisers.
Among men, what do you think is the one characteristic that ensures they will be able to raise lots of money from the public?
adam johnson
Uh they have to be independently successful with themselves.
tim pool
No.
That is completely irrelevant.
mary morgan
Height.
tim pool
Yes, that is correct.
Tall men, regardless of what they say, will make lots of money.
Now, among women, there is one trait that ensures they will make lots of money from the public, which would be?
adam johnson
Giant personalities.
tim pool
If I'm reading the room properly, I think you're correct.
But, you know, in layman's terms...
adam johnson
Um they have to look nice.
tim pool
Large knockers.
unidentified
Yes.
ben shapiro
So is that literally the case?
mary morgan
How is that even provable?
tim pool
So Nancy Pelosi.
I will put I will put it this way.
unidentified
I have worked in It's so offensive, but it's so true.
tim pool
I have worked in several offices.
I think probably four or five different fundraising offices.
Some of these offices uh fundraised for multiple different companies.
The one and and I was a d a manager and a director.
And the one thing that was consistent across the board was that like I knew this one guy who was six foot five, dumb as a box of rocks.
He would walk up to people and go, uh, hey, um so uh trees make oxygen.
seamus coughlin
They thought they thought they were being robbed.
tim pool
No, they would just they would just be like, All right, there's my choice.
It was all women, and they would give them their credit cards like that.
And then the women with big boobs would walk up to guys and the guys would hand over their credit cards.
Then there were like your average person and they would struggle.
There was one guy new who is short and pudgy who was really good, but he talked like like Joe Pesci real quick.
Like, come on, tell me and then people would just be like hypnotized.
seamus coughlin
He had an oily charisma.
adam johnson
They're called short kings.
tim pool
Indeed.
So, you know, he had the the confidence and the aggression.
But uh that's that's the point I'm making about AOC is that there's something about leadership.
You do not uh uh uh tall deep voices inspire people and shrill voices do not, and this will always be a disadvantage for female candidates.
So Zoran Mandani has a very good chance, in my opinion, of being the leader of the Democratic Party within the next four years.
mary morgan
Well, Zoran is 5'10, does he make the cut?
tim pool
Yes, I mean if he wears high tops, it doesn't matter because Democrats are all like your I I describe the Democratic Party as like the horde.
So for those that are not familiar with with Warcraft lore, the Alliance was like the human the kingdom of the humans, the elves, yeah, and they have like these big beautiful cities, and then the horde was like degenerate random filth that mur came together just like because they had no choice.
And so among uh uh Democrats, you'll find short, fat, you know, like failure of individuals demanding everyone else pay for their stuff.
So you don't need to be six foot foot tall.
It helps.
But Zoran is the smarmy weaselly leftist.
He is the he has the best chance in my opinion, among any emergent democrat.
When we talk about how they have no leadership and no no backbench, Zoran is the front of that.
And in fact, I would argue right now, Zoran is the best Democrat that exists for the party in terms of rallying potential and charisma, but he's a little early.
So AOC has you know six, seven years behind her, affording her a lot more space.
I don't see AOC ever being able to win a presidential race, seriously ever.
Not if she keeps putting on those unless they're unless the Republican, unless it's just two women running, and then it's AOC versus another woman.
But uh Mom Dani, with especially with this, if he wins is like if Mam Dani wins this race, and he likely will, he is going to be the leader of the Democratic Party.
phil labonte
Yeah, but he can't be the president because he wasn't born here.
tim pool
So that's a good point.
seamus coughlin
But they're trying to change that.
tim pool
They already they already are.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, if he becomes the leader of the the Democrat Party, uh I mean, you you need you need uh uh a uh an amendment.
seamus coughlin
No, just don't know, but they override the process all the time.
Like you have these judges who have no authority to tell Trump what he can and can't be doing.
phil labonte
I mean I I get I get what you're saying, but I I it'd be very difficult to come up with them with the method to actually override.
tim pool
I disagree.
There are they're gonna go the Jen Huger route when he filed the suit and say and say that uh uh uh uh a person who is naturalized is a natural citizen.
And that uh Jenk Huger's argument, which is is it's a decent argument if you're gonna go this route, is that if someone becomes a citizen, they are a citizen in all uh in all rights and privileges.
If the argument is that some citizens are more equal than others, then you uh you have no equality under the law.
And trust me, if the left wins and they take the Supreme Court, they are absolutely going to make that argument that you cannot have unequal citizenship.
phil labonte
You'd need you'd need an you would need a new Supreme Court for that.
seamus coughlin
In fact, what the left would do is they would say no one who was born here can be president.
We it's it's time to step aside.
tim pool
They would they would argue that if you're white, you can't be president because too many of them have been white, and that's not equality.
They would argue that it's inequality under the law to have only white presidents before the next president has to be not white.
seamus coughlin
They kind of already do.
Yeah, they kind of already do, because they're like, well, our party can't nominate some other white guy.
We've got too many white guys as well.
phil labonte
If Barack Obama is black, then they can also say that Barack Obama is white because he's half white.
He's half black and half white.
So if you can say he's black, you can also say he's white.
So that means we have never had a black president, so now it's all white presidents, so it's only fair to have an actual black president.
Well, only when it's only when it's convenient.
unidentified
Right.
phil labonte
Only when it's convenient.
And the Democrats have consistently used those kind of or used things that are are one way when it's convenient and then a different way when they're when it's not convenient.
unidentified
If you weren't born here, you shouldn't even be able to run for a school board, yeah.
phil labonte
I agree.
adam johnson
Much less be a superintendent.
unidentified
I want to let guys be able to be a good thing.
tim pool
But I want to pull this up.
This is from Steven Crowder.
Hidden camera, Zoran Mamdani campaign, citywide canvas director admits plan to force NYPD to defy ICE, make it harder to port illegals, confesses coordinated socialist takeover of New York City, reveals the Democratic Socialists of America is the backbone of the Mamdani campaign.
Quote The thing that we really keyed in on was South Asian Muslim voters and getting them out to vote.
We organize the mosques, we get the imams to tell people to go vote.
We get young lesbian white women to give uh to give out flyers in a mosque.
The people that I worked with on AOC's campaign are actually on Zoran's campaign.
And then a couple of people I worked with on Jamal Bowman's campaign are actually on Zoran's campaign.
The only thing Mamdani can do is stop the NYPD from helping ICE.
He can go to the MYPD and be like, do not let them into the courthouses.
So this is this is pretty intense because should Zoran Mamdani win, right?
We are looking right now at uh this there's a f for uh a former federal prosecutor in Chicago interviewed about the allegations that ICE agents and DHS were defying court orders.
And he said, we stand on the edge of a precipice staring into the abyss.
If Trump starts defying the courts, we have no idea.
It's gonna be chaos.
And that is exactly what they're already arguing has happened.
And with the judges telling Trump to tear the uh the DHS to take the f the barriers down, Trump can't deploy National Guard and these massive, you know, million person marches plan for this weekend, it's gonna get nuts.
If Zoran Mamdani wins in New York, it is going to be another city that falls to what what I would only describe as a non-American influence or or under the control of a non-American uh entity.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Well, and these people have nothing but criticism.
tim pool
Oh, wait, uh I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
We got sanctuary city policy.
Pull us up.
curtis sliwa
Sure.
andrew cuomo
...be assigned to every person who is undergoing any review by the federal government or any legal proceeding.
And put the full weight of the city government behind it and make sure they are legally protected.
unidentified
Mr. Slee, what was your plan?
curtis sliwa
Look, going after the criminals, that's the job of uh immigration and naturalization service ice.
But when they have to perform under a quote here, speak to many of the men and women who've served this country, putting too much pressure to go outside of courthouses to go Home Depot shape-ups or the backs of restaurants.
New York hospitality businesses.
tim pool
Even their right-wing candidate is saying that's a good thing.
curtis sliwa
I can tell you I have three sons.
None of them are gonna do that work.
Some Americans will, but most won't.
adam johnson
You're a terrible father.
curtis sliwa
My menstrual workers were essential workers.
unidentified
I used ice to go after the drug dealers.
curtis sliwa
The gangbang.
unidentified
The sexual creditors and those who are sex trafficking and involvement.
seamus coughlin
They don't have to do that stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
zohran mamdani
I would be proud to see the first immigrant mayor of this city in generations, and it's a 26 Federal Plaza that I've seen what used to be moments when New Yorkers would be getting their citizenship turn into moments of tragedy, where judges are asking New Yorkers who are there for routine immigration check-in, whether they're prepared to leave in the very same clothes that they arrived to that courthouse.
I agree that we need more legal representation.
I also think we need to actually be able to stand up to Donald Trump because I heard from Pastor in East Flatbush, Pastor Galbraith, who told me how he accompanied a member of his congregation to 26 Federal Plaza.
He sat there as a judge was determining her fate.
They managed to convince the judge to replace the deportation order with a TPS order, but they knew that ICE would not care about that change.
And they had to sprint her out of the building, smuggling her into the elevator in order to get her back to Brooklyn.
adam johnson
Sounds like the priest should be arrested, too.
david ushery
Let's play this clip real quick.
tim pool
What's this clip, Phil Giassemi?
zohran mamdani
It's genocide.
And I find the comments that Hassan made on 9 11 to be objectionable and reprehensible.
And I also think that part of the reason why Democrats are in the situation that we are in of being a permanent minority in this country is we are looking only to speak to journalists.
tim pool
Oh, he's gonna be able to do that.
seamus coughlin
It's crazy it's taken this long, though.
Was able to get the city.
Look into the camera and make your pitch to that city.
david ushery
To come here and not there.
seamus coughlin
In any reason.
zohran mamdani
New York City has something that Dallas or no other city across this country could actually offer.
And that is the quality of life.
That is the arts and the culture.
That is the people that make the city so special.
And I, as the mayor of this city, will deliver that quality of life, will deliver the safety that is the cornerstone of an affordability agenda, and will ensure that companies choose to come to this city and also choose to stay in this city.
Because so much of what drives the tech sector is a hunger for innovation, a unrepenting desire to actually innovate, and those are the very things that are going to characterize my city government in this.
in this masturbating homeless on the subway.
david ushery
But what do you say to CEO about the corporate taxes and also the staggering cost for the workers?
unidentified
Quality.
zohran mamdani
We are going to make this campaign more affordable.
So that's the texture of the city.
Can actually be able to do so.
tim pool
And we're going to ensure that this city continues to be one.
unidentified
But we see businesses opening and also saying that.
sally goldenberg
Something of a reverse scenario for you.
The CEO of a similar company with 1,000 good jobs tells you she's very close to moving her headquarters out of New York City.
She cites everything from taxes to the crushing cost of living for her employees in New York City.
How do you convince that CEO to say, please look into the camera and make your elevator pitch?
You have 30 seconds.
seamus coughlin
Look in the camera.
curtis sliwa
other companies in New York City.
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
tim pool
We just went for it.
sally goldenberg
The question is to me in this camera, Yes, the question is how do you convince the CEO of a company with a thousand good jobs who need to move out of New York City because of the high cost of living for her employees and taxes?
How you would convince her to stay in New York City?
andrew cuomo
In 15 seconds?
sally goldenberg
30.
unidentified
Okay.
andrew cuomo
I get it.
I understand your frustration.
I understand that the far left has been raising taxes and making the force.
We get it, that's gone.
The DSA, the socialist orientation, we're not socialists, it didn't work in Venezuela, didn't work in Cuba, didn't work here.
We know that we have to work with business.
We want to be your partner.
We want to have taxes that help us grow our city, but are competitive for you.
unidentified
And we want to partner to grow your business and our city together.
Mr. Sliwa, let's talk about business, because let's assume the big tech company that we pitched to Mr. Momdani earlier has decided to move to New York, and it's a thousand good-paying jobs, and the CEO wants to be based in Astoria, Queens, But there's a loud pushback of residents who don't want the noise and the traffic.
How can you convince the residents to accept the New York?
Speaking to a very popular community, how can you convince them?
curtis sliwa
But we saw that with Amazon.
Amazon wanted to come in, and AOC led the charge and local elected officials to say no to Amazon.
That was a big mistake.
I would say this.
Our companies are being recruited away by the day.
We have young people who are going to school here who could fill their needs in these high-tech industries who also are being lured away.
We need to cut their income taxes for $5.
years.
Tell them if you go to school here, graduate here, no income taxes for five years, it's an income tax holiday.
And the most important thing, we have to be able to assure the executives that this will be a city where we don't lock up toothpaste anymore, but lock up the criminals who make it intolerable to have a good quality of life.
melissa russo
We need to move on to a crisis that is very important to a lot of voters, and that is people struggling with mental health problems.
Roughly 500 times a day, someone calls 911 about an emotionally disturbed person.
And in a limited number of those cases, when the person is not believed to be violent, social workers are dispatched instead of police.
Mr. Momdani, you want to do that on a much larger scale.
So we want to know how will this work?
When will you send police virtually social media?
zohran mamdani
I know.
mary morgan
It's a crime crisis.
zohran mamdani
We have a program here in New York City called Be Heard that is attempting to do this kind of work.
But we've had a mayor who has ensured that it's been unsuccessful to the extent that even when there was an assessment of about 60% of calls that could have been addressed by Be Heard instead of the NYPD, Be Heard was not actually responsive to it.
And that's because we haven't had the political will to deliver on what is a crisis that affects so many New Yorkers, which is the mental health crisis.
What my plan will do, an innovative plan of the Department of Community Safety will take what has worked elsewhere in the country, a program in Eugene, Oregon, where they took 24,000 911 mental health calls out of the police department.
They were able to respond to all but 311 without police assistance.
When there is a concern for safety or of violence, absolutely, you would have the police there.
But what we are doing today is actually ensuring that every single call is going to the police and not allowing them to do the work that they signed up to do.
melissa russo
How will you determine whether there is a concern for safety or violence?
What is the line between the calls?
adam johnson
I'll ask what color they are.
melissa russo
Police will be dispatched and the calls to which social workers will be dispatched.
zohran mamdani
The line is also going to be one focusing on police and the threat of violence.
And I also trust the operators will be receiving those calls to make sure that we're going to be able to do that.
melissa russo
Just two really quick points, please.
There has been a lot of discussion that you would send social workers to domestic violence calls, which police are concerned about.
So you're saying no?
unidentified
Okay.
melissa russo
How can you be sure that a situation that does not sound violent when someone calls 911 does not become violent in the moment with police be assigned as backup?
zohran mamdani
I think what you do is you actually follow the experts that have shown us this can work when you're willing to ensure that you're trusting the mental health experts who have been doing this work elsewhere in the country, where they call for the police when they need the police, but their initial impulse when there's no violence in that call is actually addressing the mental health of the whole.
melissa russo
Okay, Mr. Sliwa, you have encountered plenty of these types of situations in your decades of work with the Guardian Angels, so do you see this approach working?
You're not a police officer, but you've helped out in situations.
tim pool
Play a video of him because mercilessly another fantasy that's not real.
curtis sliwa
Eugene, Oregon, have you ever been to Eugene?
I've been to Eugene.
Come on, this is New York City.
We have so many emotionally disturbed persons that are in need of help.
I will tell you this, Andrew, you closed the mental health beds that were taken care of them.
40,000 when you came into office down to 4,000 because of your cuts, which forces people to live in the parts in this stuff.
tim pool
They need mental health care.
curtis sliwa
We need to make sure that we're talking about the victims right now.
zohran mamdani
Yeah, of course.
unidentified
I've been in one-third of the 300 shelters run by the apartment of homeless services.
curtis sliwa
It's Darwini in there, survival of the fittest.
If we can make our shelter system safe, we can get men and women who are homeless in there, especially veterans who are not giving any attention to, who we put out in Ward's Island at 10 o'clock at night, release during the day, don't give Any training, have them roam about, and obviously when you have nothing to do, you end up getting into trouble.
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
seamus coughlin
It's a bunch of veterans causing crime in New York.
curtis sliwa
And I'm the mayor that can change.
I deal with them every day in the streets, in the parking lot.
melissa russo
Okay, ms Mr. Cuomo, do you think that the NYPD handles these calls for emotionally disturbed people in distress?
tim pool
I think Zoran's got like uh inner ear infection.
melissa russo
Something in the middle.
tim pool
It's like people are tweeting.
seamus coughlin
He's trying to let the water out of his head.
tim pool
His head's always tilted.
andrew cuomo
The assemblyman deals in theory.
There's an advantage when you actually have experience.
I've run homeless programs.
I ran the homeless programs for the federal government.
I've worked with cities all across the nation.
I've run the homeless.
When you get a call on the telephone about a mentally ill person.
seamus coughlin
You have to borrow treadmills.
zohran mamdani
Old school electricity.
tim pool
No, no, it would grind the...
andrew cuomo
It is a very dangerous situation.
tim pool
They would force men to walk on a wheelchair.
seamus coughlin
It would grind their grave.
unidentified
That's just wild.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh.
unidentified
Yes.
andrew cuomo
In situations that seem to apparently calm and find.
tim pool
Prisoners would be forced to walk on a wheel.
andrew cuomo
And then erupted into violence.
tim pool
And they would be standing on a wheel with platforms and it would just be grinding the social media.
seamus coughlin
RFK's gonna bring that back.
andrew cuomo
And get the people off the streets.
That's the humane thing, and get them the care they need.
Uh not the institute not institutionalized 40,000 people again.
Oh, it would be more than housing now, which is what we use.
And forensics, people who need them.
curtis sliwa
A police officer is there first.
He has to wait for the arrival of a mental health.
andrew cuomo
I would send them as a team.
curtis sliwa
As a team.
You're the social.
Police officers are going to be the first one on the scene.
And they're always going to have to deal with it first and foremost.
zohran mamdani
Mr. Roller says that he has experience running homeless programs.
What he has experience doing is cutting funding for the very program You can't do things by the book, therapist.
prevented homelessness here in New York City.
As the governor, he cut funding for the Advantage program, which was putting New Yorkers who had otherwise been in shelters, otherwise been homeless into apartments.
seamus coughlin
I met one of those New Yorkers.
zohran mamdani
Tell me how that pushed her out.
unidentified
We can end homelessness.
david ushery
Brief response, Mr. Corbin.
andrew cuomo
He's talking about a program 14 years ago that was a pilot program.
Now it had a work requirement.
It was very controversial.
It was $65 million.
melissa russo
You're talking about advantage, just so we know.
andrew cuomo
The advantage program.
It was 14 years ago, $65 million.
I added billions to the homeless budget.
Funded the homeless budget larger than any governor in history.
Okay.
zohran mamdani
Okay, thank you.
david ushery
We want to talk about it.
zohran mamdani
He cut that homeless hair skyrocketed.
melissa russo
It's during the Bloomberg administration.
And yes.
Okay.
david ushery
Okay.
Want to ask you about climate change.
As New York City confronts the impact of climate change, one issue already on the desk of the next mayor's local law, 97.
Passed in 2019.
The law requires large buildings to gradually reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 2030.
unidentified
Wow.
david ushery
That may require very expensive upgrades to buildings, which some landlords and co-op owners say they just simply can't afford.
seamus coughlin
I just want to make a comment.
david ushery
You have 30 seconds.
Mr. Cuomo.
andrew cuomo
Local law 97, I support.
Implementing the law is going to be the key.
Because it has to be done in a way.
tim pool
What was that, Seamus?
seamus coughlin
Every question and every answer is a nightmare for anyone trying to do anything productive.
They're like, what about higher taxes for people who own businesses?
What about the fact that we have no desire to uphold law and order?
We want to let criminals do whatever they want and steal whatever they want from people.
What about these extra regulations we want to impose on businesses to fight climate change and ensure every single building is like rigged up with uh devices that minimize CO2 emissions?
It's like what a nightmare of a city.
tim pool
I know everyone wishes that political debates were real.
And this is as close as you get with shows like this.
Because I I if I was asking this question, I'd be like, is there anyone up there that believes that the federal law pertaining to immigration should be enforced as is written.
And then I'll be like, nah.
And I'd be like, okay.
Or like Zoran, how come you won't straighten your head?
What's wrong with you?
But for real, these are the questions people are thinking.
And I'm half kidding.
seamus coughlin
He's a narcissist in my head.
tim pool
No, it's funny, but he probably is.
curtis sliwa
When I'm mayor, I slow that process down.
unidentified
We need our co-op owners and condo only in New York City and then briefly.
andrew cuomo
It was united.
Very dangerous situation.
phil labonte
Dude, please bring these up.
tim pool
October 7th isn't going away.
adam johnson
He's only bringing it up to the shot of the traffic.
phil labonte
I love K911.
Deeply unserious person to bring a Twitch streamer up twice, especially considering I oppose the Republicans.
Cuomo worked with them to gridlock New York State policy.
He brought it up twice.
mary morgan
Wasn't he specifically asked?
phil labonte
That's what that's what Hassan said.
tim pool
Wouldn't it be amazing if, like, for no reason Zaron Mamdani is like climate change is a very serious problem for New York City.
Hassan did shock that dog, but we're going to upgrade our buildings.
unidentified
We've seen it be done in the Clean Energy Challenge.
tim pool
He's like, well, I actually like Hassan, and I think his dog deserves it.
zohran mamdani
Stupid animal.
unidentified
They sell shock collars for a reason.
Somewhere Kristi Noem's taking notes like, I don't have to shoot.
melissa russo
You have all said that you want to be mayor for all New Yorkers.
So will you march on all the parades that mayors have traditionally marched in?
Or are there any that you would boycott?
Mr. Sleeva?
curtis sliwa
I think the mayor has a responsibility whenever possible to march in parades, to celebrate whatever that parade is...
Performing it.
So I've been a Grand Marshal with a Pulaski Day Parade.
I was proud to celebrate the city.
Excuse me.
melissa russo
Would you boycott any of the city's parades?
curtis sliwa
No, I would not boycott any parades.
andrew cuomo
No, I wouldn't religious group.
No, I wouldn't unless they discriminated.
melissa russo
Okay.
adam johnson
Meanwhile, in Florida, the LGBT parade that happens at every year.
curtis sliwa
It's for age.
zohran mamdani
I've already missed a number of those parades because I've got to be a good idea.
melissa russo
Okay.
zohran mamdani
I don't have the list of all the parades I've missed.
curtis sliwa
Wow, that's a lot.
tim pool
I am now announcing in New York City because they've all said that they will not miss a parade.
The White Americans Only Parade.
andrew cuomo
I have not thought.
I don't even know what parade doesn't exist.
unidentified
The White Americans in New York Parade.
curtis sliwa
Every parade has the right to exist in New York City.
I would ask you.
melissa russo
Hey, whatever.
curtis sliwa
You protect the Christopher Columbus statue of city.
zohran mamdani
V. V. I'm telling you, my focus is on affordability.
curtis sliwa
I'm not thinking about it.
Thank you.
andrew cuomo
He gave the finger to the Columbus Day status come up.
That's what we call it.
david ushery
Listen, we're in the last couple of minutes and we thought that means some questions.
We thought we had some questions that maybe give a glimpse into your life or your personality away from the political podium.
What's your go-to breakfast order at the Bogata?
curtis sliwa
What kind of question is that?
seamus coughlin
What do you ask?
david ushery
Mr. Cuomo.
andrew cuomo
Same thing.
No salt also.
david ushery
Mr. Mamdani.
tim pool
Have you ever purchased anyone?
I'm going to give him that one.
david ushery
Mamdani?
andrew cuomo
Well, I have.
tim pool
Nothing like a good Kaiser.
American cheese white.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
With some fried egg and some jalapanos.
david ushery
Mr. Sliwa.
curtis sliwa
When I was shot five times, I've had Cone's disease.
I did use medical marijuana.
Yes.
david ushery
Okay.
adam johnson
I'm high ranked.
david ushery
In a dream scenario, we know it's not possible, but the Mets are playing game seven of the World Series on the same night as the Knicks are playing game seven of the NBA championship.
And you can only go to one.
Sliwa's going to go, who it be, Mr. Sleewa.
This is the Mets.
Game seven.
Knicks game seven.
curtis sliwa
I'm not going to the Mets game.
I'm a Yankee fan.
True baseball fans, either like one or the other.
I'm going to the Knicks game.
That's my team, the Knicks.
david ushery
Mr. Cuomo.
andrew cuomo
I'm going to go half in half.
I can make it back and forth.
david ushery
All right.
zohran mamdani
This is what New Yorkers are sick of.
Just pick a team.
david ushery
I'll be there for the Knicks.
Okay.
Well, there's a lot of ground covered.
We'll leave it on that light note.
unidentified
Thank you.
david ushery
We hope you got a lot out of it.
The New York City campaign finance board.
We thank heartily and we urge you to check out their whip.
tim pool
I want to run for office, but not to actually win, just to say based things on stage.
Like they'd be like, okay, the Knicks and the Mets, where are you going?
I'd be like, neither of them, they both suck.
Give me a better question.
And I just like.
adam johnson
I've always thought if I run, I'm going to run a smear campaign against myself.
I'm going to say just the worst things about me.
Everything that I would that would come out during a campaign, I would just say it up front.
So we can talk about actual politics and policies.
phil labonte
So like MM.
adam johnson
Yeah.
phil labonte
Just take away all the power from just start rapping about how all the terrible things that happened in your life.
adam johnson
I did strike a child with a vehicle once that did happen.
I think it's I should air it out now.
tim pool
It was intentional.
adam johnson
He was riding his bike in the, you know, in the crosswalk, which is riding his bike list.
tim pool
He was riding his bike on the sidewalk, but he had it coming.
I I thought.
adam johnson
Well, he's a he was gonna grow up to be a bicyclist, too.
So I just you gotta nip it in the bud.
tim pool
He had a menacing uh uh hair sticking up like that alfalfa character from Little Rascals, and it just grinds my gears.
adam johnson
He's fine now.
phil labonte
He's fine now, mostly.
adam johnson
He he drank most of his meals anyway before this.
tim pool
Yeah.
Uh should we should we go back talking about news?
seamus coughlin
Absolutely.
phil labonte
Please.
tim pool
And let's get controversial.
We got this from Media.
Ben Shapiro takes torch to his own colleagues' weird idea that conservative conservatives must unify with far right.
ben shapiro
Coming up on today's Ben Shapiro show, President Trump honors Charlie Kirk with a posthumous medal of presidential freedom.
Plus, we get to a supposed blockbuster political story about grouperism, white supremacy, ugly stuff inside young Republican chats.
What does that mean?
And what is the duty of conservatives to quote unquote unify with such stuff?
We'll get to all of it.
First, October is packed with new releases.
tim pool
Alright, anyway.
So Matt Walsh was like, We gotta put aside our differences and come together to defeat the left because the left is evil.
And Ben Shapiro was like, uh, actually, gang, we don't have to do that, and we shouldn't do that because they're weird and they don't like Israel.
And so that's that's basically the debate.
Um which side are you guys on?
phil labonte
Whichever side gets more Tim Pool impersonating Ben Shapiro.
That's the side I'm looking at.
mary morgan
Can you do more of that?
unidentified
I want to hear more arguments from more argument from Ben.
tim pool
Uh no, that was the argument.
And now we're gonna have a serious discussion over who's correct.
Matt Walsh joined the Gropers or Ben Shapiro, no gripers.
Are they even gripers?
seamus coughlin
Well, that's the thing.
And also, I'm I'm just I don't know if they were talking about gripers, but I'm gonna tend to agree with Matt Walsh on things, if I'm honest.
I have any now that's maybe not the best way to approach something like this because I haven't heard both arguments, but just generally have more line.
tim pool
You know, you know, uh I agree, and not for any of the substantive reasons.
It's just because in my mind I can imagine uh Walsh screaming Deus Walt.
Ben Shapiro.
mary morgan
Ben Look, all Zoomers are Nazis on some level.
I said it the other day they're not Nazis, and they are.
phil labonte
Zoomerwaffen.
I said it the other day.
mary morgan
They grew up on the internet.
I don't I why is anyone surprised that they talk like this in in polite company, you know?
adam johnson
When uh I God I will say I I air with Matt Walsh.
That's that's where I side with it.
It's because I have a family group chat.
It's my wife and all of my kids, and my wife actually had to get kicked out of the group chat because of things that my kids say.
She's like, I just don't want to hear these things from my children.
Where do they get this from?
seamus coughlin
And I'm like, I just said it.
I just want to make a point real quick before we even read this.
This is really important for you, actually, because there was a time when you and everyone else who was caught up on all with all the nonsense of January 6th would have been considered too extreme for other people on the right to advocate for.
So who's deciding who's too far right for us to stick with?
phil labonte
You have to go back to the biggest.
seamus coughlin
And the left always sticks with the far left no matter what.
phil labonte
No, that's not true.
You have to go You don't think so?
No, not at all.
They they excommunicate people all the time.
Look at what they're doing to the they'll explain.
seamus coughlin
No, look what they're doing to Federal.
Excommunicate people.
phil labonte
Uh yeah, that's true.
It is, it is always the more moderate people that booted, but it doesn't mean that they always stick together.
They do boot people.
Um then like it depends on who and what like who they're talking about and what was said.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
phil labonte
Like I don't think there was anything in the group chat that I've seen, just talking about what I've seen.
There's nothing in there that I've seen that struck me as as anything other than like dudes just shit posting, right?
That's what I that's what it seemed like, all the stuff that I've seen.
Um I'm I'm perfectly fine with jokes.
tim pool
I do care.
Matt Walsh says the right doesn't stick together.
That's our biggest problem by far.
Conservatives are quick to denounce each other, jump on dogpiles, disavow, attack their allies.
I said a few weeks ago that we all need to band together in the wake of Charlie's death, and the answer I got back from a lot of people on the right was basically no.
Well, okay, then guys, we'll just lose instead.
The left will keep up the unified front And defend their guys no matter what, while we keep throwing each other to the wolves at every opportunity.
Great plan.
I want to stress this as the point you guys are just making.
Matt Walsh is not saying to join neo-Nazis.
He's saying the guys that were making these posts are not, they were just being they're they're trying to be edgy in a group chat.
And by all means, you can argue maybe a little inappropriate, but not meant for public eyes.
It was just it was it was what's the political equivalent equivalent of locker room talk?
seamus coughlin
Basically that's shit posting it.
tim pool
And so I I have no problem saying in certain circumstances, if like someone said something racist or dispatching out, oh yeah, that's that's terrible.
Like next question.
Right, you know what I mean?
When the left goes online and they publicly advocate for like my murder, they get celebrated.
And I don't see AOC AOC coming out being like everybody on Blue Sky needs to chill out.
The funny thing is, the left's version of this is publicly available for everyone to go watch, and they never denounce it.
And the one time the right has something not even nearly as offensive what the left does on Blue Sky, it's the apocalypse to these people and to conservatives.
So I'm with Matt Walsh on this one.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
mary morgan
Did Gavin Wax ever deny the allegation that he leaked it?
Or is he just like complaining about being canceled?
tim pool
Is that what I uh everybody's basically saying he did it?
mary morgan
He I don't think he's denied it, which is telling.
seamus coughlin
I'm yeah, I'm just gonna be able to do that.
mary morgan
And if it's true that he was the one who leaked it to Politico, that appears to be just over personal beefs within the YRs, not because he saw this group chat and was like clutching his pearls, gasping in scandal.
He probably talks like the exact same way in his group chats.
unidentified
Well, so some people are claiming some people are claiming that Gavin Wax young right wing men like under 30s.
tim pool
Is important.
There's people claiming that Gavin Wax didn't leak it.
seamus coughlin
Okay.
tim pool
It's a false story pushed by Politico to create division within trust young Republicans.
mary morgan
Okay.
Well, then who the hell did it?
tim pool
Well, we don't know, but uh but my uh uh so I have seen people post like, hey, Gavin did not do this.
And my response is okay.
Well, I need proof that he did if you want me to condemn somebody.
I got I will tell you this outright.
You want me to condemn somebody?
Disloyalty, done.
seamus coughlin
That's right.
Don't come in.
phil labonte
I have more of a problem with the person that leaked it than with any of the jokes that were made in the chat.
mary morgan
Yeah, whoever leaked it needs to be excommunicated.
And um Matt is right that people on the right are just allergic to taking their own side.
tim pool
Oh, whoever leaked it, I will I will give a ride.
They can ride shotgun in my cyber truck to the latest DSA meeting where they can join their new faction of left.
unidentified
Losers.
adam johnson
Well, Matt's right here, though.
I mean, we we need generals on the field.
We've not actually won yet.
The Republicans do a good thing, we maybe win an election, then we go to bed.
phil labonte
There is no winning.
Like it's not like it's not like we're ever gonna be in a position where it's like, oh, the left has been vanquished.
It's over.
You know, I mean, even the founders knew that you know, whether you like Reagan or not, he said, look, we're only one gener generation away from losing liberty.
You know, the founders knew that it the you know the price of of freedom is to turn them vigilance.
This is not something where we can just say, Oh, we won and now it's done.
It doesn't end.
There is no no no it's over.
And we're gonna have to always be teaching your children and creating culture and doing all the things that that we talk about.
It's not there's no stop.
adam johnson
So generational mindset.
tim pool
Milo posted this sworn effidavid from uh Michael Bartell saying that Gavin blackmailed him to get the chat or whatever.
And people are saying that's evidence, and Gavin haven't hasn't issued a statement.
So for those on the familiar Gavin Wax, he's been on the show before, and uh I think he works, he works in the Trump administration, right?
Um he is the COS public diplomacy and public affairs at the State Department.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I just I want to make another point here too, because I think this often gets lost in these conversations, which is that working with a person or group of people does not mean you endorse everything else they believe.
It doesn't mean you endorse everything else they've said, and it doesn't mean you endorse everything else they've ever done.
So this conflation will occur where it's like, well, Matt Walsh says the rights could should stick together, but there are some bad actors on the right.
Okay, well, you will you can work with bad actors in certain circumstances if they share a positive goal, which is why people spent years talking about bipartisan efforts.
Oh, well, even if Democrats are trying to do something good, I'm willing to work with them on that.
People talk about Trump pushing for criminal justice reform in certain areas and how good it was that he was willing to work with the left, even though they're completely evil because one of their goals was good.
And so my argument is if the standard is that we should be willing to work with leftists who hate our way of life and Want to destroy our country if we have a similar goal.
How can you not say that we should work with some people on the right who we don't agree with on everything?
adam johnson
We wouldn't have NASA without that.
phil labonte
Interesting.
Operation Paperclip.
You know?
mary morgan
It's just crazy that, like, after Charlie Kirk's assassination, this is still even a conversation because he understood this perfectly.
seamus coughlin
Agreed.
mary morgan
He worked with and never said a bad word about anybody he worked with, despite disagreements, despite being pushed behind the scenes and publicly to condemn so many people he worked with, um, including Tucker Carlson, most notably.
And this is still even a conversation that we're having on the right.
phil labonte
Too many people absolute cowards.
They're afraid of what the left is going to say about them.
And that's something that we need to become completely allergic to, right?
I don't care what the left is going to call me.
They've already called me everything that they can.
And I like I know what kind of guy I am.
I know the kind, like I know, like that I'm not a hateful person.
Like, I'm not like these people have to get out of here, blah, blah, blah.
Like, I'm just not that guy.
seamus coughlin
Well, and I just want to mention, like, obviously, this is something I would say as an evil right winger, but I know everyone here.
I don't know you as well, but everyone here, I know none of you are like secret haters behind the scenes saying these wild things.
But I'll see the accusations that are lobbed at all of us for our political views, and it's complete and total nonsense.
But ultimately, the thing that really has to be considered, going along with what Mary said about how insane it is that we're still having this conversation after they killed Charlie Kirk is, of course, yes, Charlie Kirk wouldn't condemn certain people on the right, but also this is past the point of them canceling us, right?
Like lives are at stake here.
You don't throw people under the bus when there are lives at stake.
tim pool
I I got I got a tweet here from Matt Walsh, and I'm I'm gonna completely disagree with him.
I'm sorry, guys.
I can't I can't side with Matt.
Let me read this tweet for you, and just let me let me finish this, and I'll explain why just Matt's wrong.
He says, one side of the aisle is responsible for the mass slaughter of 60 million babies.
One side wants to castrate children, one side wants to destroy the family and the church.
I just fundamentally reject any claim that there is any moral equivalence between the radicals on the right and those on the left.
Get back to me when these right wing radicals actively fund and facilitate the mass execution of babies, and then we can talk about moral equivalence.
Yes, I will unite with anyone to oppose this force.
No, no, no, stop.
Matt is completely wrong.
Okay.
It is not radicals on the left that abort babies, it's the moderates.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
Exactly.
phil labonte
And that's not a joke.
tim pool
That's the truth.
seamus coughlin
No, you're completely correct.
That's the only thing he's incorrect about there.
And it's and it's very technical.
mary morgan
He was also pointing out that this is personal to him because after Charlie Kirk died, um, and leftists were celebrated celebrating it, um, his name was probably the the second most popular suggestion of who should be next.
seamus coughlin
Yep.
mary morgan
And when you add that level of gravity to it, you understand why he would respond this way.
seamus coughlin
Yep.
A hundred percent.
Like, well, people are out there literally calling for violence against him and his family, and no one on the left is decrying that.
They are at the same time demanding that he decry bad statements from other people on the right.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
adam johnson
Well, the goal is to make us quiet is to make us silent.
And I tell people if you're afraid of um, because they're afraid of losing something at this point, they're lives.
But if you're afraid of losing something that causes you to be quiet, you've already lost it because you've given it up.
seamus coughlin
Amen.
tim pool
Let's uh let's let's jump to this story to give some people hope.
Hope this is from Culchi.
Which party will win the U.S. House next year?
Holy crap, it's 50-50.
Take a look at this.
This is remarkable.
So historically, the opposition party will win the control of the House, uh, opposite to the presidency.
And Democrats in April were at 80%.
Well, now it's 54% Democrat, 46 Republicans.
They're not polls.
This is the prediction market, meaning regular people have decided to make a bet the Republican Party is going to win, which is crazy, but I believe it's true.
Why?
There is only one thing that Trump's economics in an election, and it is security.
And the far left has been violent and dangerous, and they've been escalating.
I think people see that and they're like, this is terrifying me.
Regular people, and that that's why slowly over time the Democrats' chances have been going down.
However, as of recent, the major issue is that it appears the Supreme Court is set to agree with Republicans on getting rid of this race-based districting uh program that exists.
Newswire says Democrats in the South face wipeout if Supreme Court guts voting rights act.
They likely will.
That's the prediction.
If they do, then all of these race-based congressional districts will be gone, and Democrats will lose upwards of 20 seats.
Steven Miller's saying, how many people just realized Democrats had as many as 20 extra seats based on years of unconstitutional race-based gerrymandering.
seamus coughlin
Literally, the entire argument from the left here is that there is a right that exists somewhere hidden in the penumbra of the shadow of our constitution that minorities have a legal right to voting blocks based on their ethnic or racial identity, which is insane.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean it's it's clearly but the 14th Amendment gives, you know, guarantees equal protection.
And and that doesn't guarantee that doesn't mean that you know they will they're allowed to make sure that that certain races are represented.
You can't guarantee that, oh, well, we have to make sure that that we district in a way to ensure Democrats win.
Because that's really what it boils down to.
Yes.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, they want like a racial electoral college.
Yeah.
They want the electoral HCBU.
No, but they but seriously, they want like an electoral college on the basis of which ethnic or racial group you're a part of, and then your vote counting towards that voting block, and it's insane.
adam johnson
Which is odd to me because we both, I mean, all of us exercise the same rights and have the same rights.
I don't understand women the necessity to have rights based on your race or preference based on your race for how laws and things are passed.
mary morgan
But what it is is a tacit admission um that certain racial groups have their own self-interests separate from other racial groups, and that's how they vote.
adam johnson
That sounds racist to me.
seamus coughlin
Sounds like really racist.
And I don't know why these Democrats would say that horrible racist thing.
mary morgan
I shouldn't have said it.
I'm sorry.
seamus coughlin
Well you're just pointing out what they said.
You're just acknowledging their entire argument.
Because that is essentially what they're saying.
They're saying racial groups are gonna r vote uh as a voting block to protect their interests as a racial group.
And that has to be constitutionally protected.
mary morgan
Not to mention except white people.
seamus coughlin
Except white people, yeah, yeah.
Of course.
mary morgan
White people don't have any racial interests.
Well they should not vote basically.
tim pool
Lower KSW.
I mean, there's there's no white culture or white traditions.
mary morgan
They're mayo monkeys.
tim pool
I mean, you know, what's your what's your ethnicity, Mary?
mary morgan
100% mayo monkey.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
So is that Spanish?
mary morgan
Um close.
tim pool
Uh I was gonna say, um, I'm trying to figure out which one of us has the ethnic background to be angry with Seamus.
What's your background?
You look like you might be Anglo.
adam johnson
Um, I'm American.
unidentified
I'm but wait where from But where are you really from?
Or asking.
seamus coughlin
Where are you really?
mary morgan
You look Irish.
adam johnson
Uh I'm actually I got Irish is an anglo, though.
So uh my mom my mom did one of those uh 23andMe's.
I have some um some Nordic blood and some Canadian blood.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Canadian.
adam johnson
Yeah, like three percent.
I cried that day when I found it.
tim pool
You're Scandinavian?
Yeah, that's it.
adam johnson
Like basically, yeah.
tim pool
You want to hear a joke?
seamus coughlin
No.
tim pool
How come there's no pretty women in the UK?
seamus coughlin
Isn't it the scary?
tim pool
Oh, this joke doesn't work.
Outside of Norway.
seamus coughlin
Because like the Scandinavians stole them all, isn't that Vikings still?
tim pool
It only works if you're Norwegian.
A Norwegian guy told me this.
He was like, You want to hear a joke?
How come there's no pretty women in the UK?
And I said, why not?
We took them.
Everyone laughed in the room.
They were all nor Norwegian.
It wasn't and they were eating whale.
I'm not that's not a joke.
They were my people.
seamus coughlin
The most giga chat thing I've ever heard in my entire life.
tim pool
It tasted terrible.
phil labonte
I gotta ask.
seamus coughlin
I believe that it would taste terrible.
tim pool
They love it though.
mary morgan
Beans on toast is good.
I stand by that.
seamus coughlin
Well, it's because they're because they got the beautiful ones, not necessarily the ones you can cook.
tim pool
Um, I I I will I will argue that the uh British breakfast is better than the American.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
unidentified
It's way better.
seamus coughlin
Oh, but I'm not like mushrooms, dude.
phil labonte
Get rid of the mushrooms.
seamus coughlin
I'm not sure.
mary morgan
Maked beans too.
tim pool
Blood pudding.
seamus coughlin
Tim is some kind of liberal world traveler.
I don't know these things.
No.
tim pool
They drain the blood of the pig and then they just like compress it into a hockey puck.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
And you eat it.
unidentified
So good.
tim pool
It's great.
mary morgan
And I don't know what the white pudding is, but it's also good.
seamus coughlin
Is it good?
Does it actually taste good?
It's great.
tim pool
It's like a sausage.
seamus coughlin
Okay.
And it's like it's it's not like when I hear pudding, I think sweet, so I'm like, that sounds do they say that.
mary morgan
They call everything pudding there.
seamus coughlin
That's the right thing.
tim pool
Biscuits are pudding.
I don't know.
seamus coughlin
Okay.
tim pool
Bread pudding is like a piece of bread.
unidentified
If you don't know what it is, it's pudding.
seamus coughlin
The word for anything.
adam johnson
My blood pudding I put on my goat mask and dance around the fire.
Sounds super normal.
tim pool
So uh, but but anyway, um, my compatriots if should uh they then win in the Supreme Court, uh so be it, we shall never lose another election again.
seamus coughlin
Do you think that's true?
tim pool
I mean, look at the news wire.
seamus coughlin
I mean, listen, that would look pretty uh it would be I have a question.
tim pool
Seamus, does this count as the South rising again?
seamus coughlin
I guess I don't know, man.
That's a good question.
I spent about 10 years of my life in Georgia.
I'll have to ask them.
I'll have to write some of my my buddies.
phil labonte
I want to find out.
I want to find out what it's like to have 20 additional likely Republican seats in in the House.
That's great.
unidentified
Awful.
seamus coughlin
I've heard winning is bad from a lot of Republicans, and it's not what we want to do.
phil labonte
It would be great to have those seats in the House, honestly.
Like uh unquestionably, it would be great.
But that doesn't mean that you are gonna be any in any better position in the Senate.
So, you know, I mean, we're still dealing with all kinds of the reason the government is shut down right now is because of the Senate because Schumer doesn't want to, you know, or Schumer doesn't want to tell the the Democrats to vote.
So it would be awesome, yes, but it's not gonna be a situation where it's like oh Republicans can do whatever they want now.
adam johnson
I don't know.
tim pool
Look at this.
So take us out.
The 2026 Senate polls, oh no, not polls, we want Senate interactive map.
So right now the projection is four 51 Republican seats with 45 Democrat, but four up for grabs.
We could be we uh uh on if if things don't change right now, we could have 55 Senate seats, but wait, there's more.
Theoretically, these weak blue seats could flip if it really does get crazy.
Check this out.
The uh 2028 projection, I know we're still years away.
It's like massively Republican is wild.
adam johnson
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
seamus coughlin
And that's crazy because this would mean uh And this is with the redistricting?
tim pool
No, this is president 2028.
Oh, we're three years away, right?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
But uh, let's pull up the House 2026 interactive map.
How is current projection is red Republicans have the lead, but there's no clear majority, but polling favors Republicans right now, which is crazy.
seamus coughlin
We keep hearing about how unpopular all the Republican policies are.
tim pool
Nah, I'm I'm sorry.
The left is nuts and everyone's just sick of it.
seamus coughlin
Everyone knows, yeah.
tim pool
Especially if they had the killing of Charlie Kirk, I think this pushed it back in the favor of Republicans.
adam johnson
Yeah.
tim pool
And the more these far leftists double down, I gotta be honest.
Trump may be trying to play this strategy again with Chicago, take the barriers down.
I think maybe he's correct.
Let me let me tell you.
I always make this point.
What would have happened if on May 29th, 2020, Donald Trump ordered federal law enforcement in front of the White House to stand down.
The far left had torn down the barricades, injured 70 to 100 police officers, and then Trump was like, I think it was Bill Barr actually, get the troops out there, run them down, pushed them all out, put the fire out at St. John's church.
The next day he walked out, took a picture with a Bible.
That backfired.
The media came out and said Trump violently attacked peaceful protesters for a photo op.
What would have happened if Trump came out that night and said, due to the fear of great bodily harm or death of peaceful protesters, I am instructing federal law enforcement to pull back.
There are violent elements outside of the White House.
I am begging the peaceful protesters to please steer clear, you may get hurt, and we want to mitigate loss of life.
They would have trampled the White House, ripped the fencing down, stormed in the building, St. John's church would have been burnt to the ground, and the next day Trump would have come out and he would have said the far left terrorists have gone too far.
It would have been a wholly different reality, the George Floyd riots.
Wow.
Instead, Trump swept him out in front of the White House, as he should have, to be completely honest.
But the narrative then became against Trump.
What happened on January 6th?
Trump wanted the National Guard.
The mayor and Pelosi were like, nah.
And then the worst thing imaginable happened, Viagetti stole the speaker's lectern, becoming speaker himself.
seamus coughlin
Yep.
tim pool
And took over the US government.
seamus coughlin
And listen, I and I I didn't vote for Viagetti, but as far as speakers go, he was the less the lesser of two evils in my personal opinion.
So I get it.
Um I just I don't know when we're gonna find this guy.
adam johnson
We didn't spend a single dollar of your taxes while I was in office.
That's all I'm saying, all right?
tim pool
While you were in the office.
adam johnson
Right now, you could read about all these things and more of these stories in my book, Taking a Stand, which is uh just out now.
Yeah.
Great segue, right?
Thank you.
And uh you can buy it on unlicensed furniture movers.com.
And if you order in the next couple of weeks, I will sign it for you.
tim pool
I think Trump may be playing this this game again, but a little bit differently, in that he's saying, I'm gonna send in the troops, I'm gonna send in federal law enforcement.
Then when the judges rule against him, he says that the judges ruled it.
The difference between 2020 riots and now is that back then Trump could have made these moves and didn't.
And everyone said if he does, they'll call him a fascist.
I think that backfired because regular people were like, Trump won't protect us.
This is different.
This time around, Trump is actively sending in federal law enforcement and federalizing National Guard, and because of this, they're blocking him.
What happens come Saturday if Chicago gets messed up?
And then Trump comes out and says, We have made every attempt to send in law enforcement, put a stop to the far left extremism, but these judges blocked us from doing so.
To the people of Chicago, I'm sorry we couldn't be there for you, but we will definitely make a change now.
And then he will have his figurative cast his belly to say, I'm invoking the insurrection act.
adam johnson
Trump came in as a moderate first term, and for his troubles and for his bipartisanship, they shot him.
They went after his family, they sued him, they arrested him, they charged him with 30 or 4 felonies that mean nothing.
And I think he's done.
Now, do I think it's gonna happen this weekend?
My running theory has been the reason we haven't seen the rest we want to see.
Bolton's nice, but it's not, you know, those aren't the people we want to see.
I want to see Ray.
I want to see Merrick Garland arrested.
We're not in donation season yet.
We're not close enough to midterms to make those arrests happen.
I think people will forget if it goes eight months after an arrest.
Because indictments take time.
seamus coughlin
So that's what you think it is.
You think that he's just waiting to do it when there's a better fundraising opportunity?
adam johnson
When it's donation season.
tim pool
Well, we got a story from the post-millennial.
John Bolton indicted for mishandling classified documents.
I understand it's what, 18 charges or some ridiculous 26-page indictment.
He was charged with um eight counts of transmission of national defense information and ten counts of retention of national defense information if convicted, 10 years in prison for each count.
unidentified
I say indicted by a grand jury in Maryland.
Do you have a reaction to that?
I didn't know that.
You told me for the first time, but I think he's nobody says that.
He still says that.
I think he's a...
tim pool
Because it means he actually did know.
unidentified
It's too bad, but it's the way it goes.
That's the way it goes.
david ushery
That's the way it goes.
unidentified
Have you reviewed the case against him?
david ushery
No, I haven't.
unidentified
I haven't.
david ushery
But I just think he's a bad person.
adam johnson
Dude, I love him.
tim pool
That's it.
Uh Bolton, of course, is a neocon warmonger.
And uh most affected, Ilad.
phil labonte
Yeah, they're part of me wishes.
seamus coughlin
I gotta check in on it, bro.
Yeah, I'm gonna send him a text.
Check it out, my boy.
phil labonte
Text us, let us know you're okay.
tim pool
He's gonna he's gonna post a tweet of him just crying on X. He's even got the mustache.
phil labonte
Yeah, shoving popcorn or food down his face to eat, you know, eating to make the songs go.
tim pool
What's the what are those things we have called?
Those biscuits.
phil labonte
Biscuits?
tim pool
Yeah, you know what I'm talking about?
The Jewish biscuits.
phil labonte
Matza?
tim pool
Is that what it's called?
unidentified
I don't know.
phil labonte
I'm not sure it's crackers.
Oh, okay.
What are they called by one?
Yeah, unleavened bread because it doesn't have any yeast.
tim pool
That's what he's jamming in his face.
unidentified
Yeah, he's just shoving matz at shoveling honey.
adam johnson
Silk of fish.
phil labonte
Just locks and bagels.
tim pool
10 pound industrial restaurants.
unidentified
Emotionally eating so many bagels.
tim pool
But like he's making them fresh, so they're fresh out of the boiler, and he's like carefully doing it.
He's doing a great job, and he makes great bagels, you know.
phil labonte
We're we're not sorry either.
We're not sorry at all.
Can't wait for you to come back and say it to your face.
Say it right to your mouth.
tim pool
We can all have a great time as the world uh burns on around us, you know.
But I know, I mean, you know, we're we're looking at winning the midterms, and John Bolton is going to jail.
He's not Hillary Clinton, but you know, he's like, you know, what?
You know, let's be real.
Like, you know, Hillary Clinton is a good thing.
Number one or two on the list, Bolton's maybe 434 or something.
You know what I mean?
Letitia James is like 896.
Comey's up there, though.
He's like probably number seven.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know.
adam johnson
I thought they worked their way up.
I think there's more coming.
tim pool
I do.
I and I and I think once it starts getting colder, we're gonna see more on the ground raids from federal law enforcement and and and the guard.
I think they're they're holding back a little bit.
When it gets a little colder, the rioters will stop coming up.
Like, not even a joke.
That's these people are just like, it's too hot to go outside, and so they don't.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
And then when it's cold, they're like, it's too cold outside.
So it's spring and fall, really.
I'm not exaggerating.
When we used to we used to track riot season when we got and cover all the unrest 10 years ago, we were like, you know, you're you're your your core month is gonna be April.
That's like the month.
Because it's spring weather and people are starting to get to it.
And then maybe like June and July, you'll get some you'll get some action, but it's September or August.
It's like kind of hot.
October, it gets a little cool and you start seeing people out there.
You know, that's why Occupy Wall Street was in September, it was mid-September.
And then when November came around, people like it got swept out because people were just basically like, it's getting cold.
I'm out.
phil labonte
Yeah, like I don't want to sit out of here.
tim pool
No, it was it was pretty crazy how it started super hot and ended super cold.
adam johnson
So Derek Chauvin's only mistake was not doing it during Christmas time.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Oh, bro, for real.
Like, if if this George Floyd thing happened in the middle of winter, nobody would even know about it.
phil labonte
Totally different history from 2020 on.
Completely.
adam johnson
Crazy.
tim pool
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
So what do you think, Tim?
What do you think the likelihood is that we get an actual conviction out of this?
tim pool
Oh, yeah, definitely.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But they'll probably plead out or something.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, he's got he doesn't have the same kind of uh same kind of protections that like, you know, other higher ups would.
You know, like he had what?
adam johnson
Citizenship?
phil labonte
I don't think so.
Um if I understand correctly, he had you know classified documents.
He told people that he had documents, but he didn't tell them that he had classified stuff.
He doesn't have the same kind of ability to say, well, you know, I'm the president, or blah, blah, blah.
Like there's there's no question about like he broke the law with that.
So what?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, well, yeah, because the president has executive privilege.
So when they were trying to go after Trump for in classified documents, it's like, dude, the reason that classification exists.
That's the reason executive privilege exists is for the president.
phil labonte
I mean, obviously, you know, I I only know what I've read when it comes to the the stuff that's that's in the media, so uh there could be other stuff that I don't know about, but if I if if I have my information correctly, he uh he is he is in a lot of hot water.
seamus coughlin
So how did Bolton end up around Trump in the first place?
phil labonte
Bolton hired him.
seamus coughlin
I'm okay.
phil labonte
I mean, Trump hired him.
seamus coughlin
No, no, no, no, I know, but I'm like, what what is why did Trump hire because everyone's always seen him as a swamp creature?
And I know that this happens routinely where Trump will bring someone into his cabinet.
We're like, what is Trump?
mary morgan
But didn't he historically just delegate that task of hiring personnel to other personnel who weren't on his side to begin with?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah, it's unfortunate.
Like he was not really surrounded by trustworthy people, unfortunately.
tim pool
That's his own fault.
adam johnson
John Bolton is a dual citizen.
The buck stops what John Bolton is a dual citizen of Israel.
phil labonte
Yeah, is he really?
unidentified
No, what's what?
phil labonte
Maybe they're gonna get him on.
Maybe he's spying.
Maybe he's spying for Israel.
That that'll make it even worse.
Go to Jimmy.
tim pool
John Bolton.
No, I don't think that's true.
I I don't believe it's right.
Yeah, I think that's made up.
adam johnson
The times of Israel.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Because I you know those lists that pop up all the time where it's like it'll show it.
You have you ever see those lists people make?
It's like a gr a grid of pictures, and it's like a picture of a guy with a Jewish star of David on it.
My favorite was when they put Luke on it.
Yeah, they put a star they put a star of David on Luke, and Luke was like, What?
And then like the person who made it apologized.
phil labonte
And he was like, what people are they're just like everyone that rubs them the wrong way on the internet, they're like, You're a Jew, too.
seamus coughlin
Did you see Danny Polishek did a sketch on that?
Ryan Long's buddy.
I cannot.
tim pool
I can't find that anywhere, bro.
mary morgan
Yeah, it's it's not true.
tim pool
Yeah, you made that up.
mary morgan
It was theme from like 2013.
seamus coughlin
Danny Polishuk did a really great skit where he's like the guy who makes those graphics, and he's like, I'm not anti-Semitic.
I'm it's just my hyperfixation is pointing out how many Jews are in things.
tim pool
Yeah, so how many members of Congress are dual citizens?
phil labonte
435.
tim pool
All of them.
Uh oh, here's a here's a here's a funny thing.
It says instead of telling me the answer, it goes, there's no requirement of the US Constitution that prohibits dual citizens from serving in Congress.
phil labonte
Didn't that?
tim pool
You dumb retard.
seamus coughlin
Be nice to the AI.
tim pool
Not asked.
seamus coughlin
It's gonna rise up.
tim pool
The law or restrictions.
seamus coughlin
It's gonna rise up, man.
tim pool
Dude, I asked it this is the problem with Chat GPT.
unidentified
It is the stupidest AI.
tim pool
I'm sorry, something went wrong.
I can't answer that question.
What?
phil labonte
Oh, really?
Nice, good.
seamus coughlin
So I'm I'm still curious on this John Bolton.
Um let's ask uh what do you guys think is gonna happen?
I mean, Phil, you seem to think he's gonna get convicted.
Tim, you you think it's pretty cut and dry?
tim pool
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Wow.
phil labonte
Let's see what Grok says.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
What is grow what do Grok and Chat GPT have to say about it?
tim pool
ChatGPT said something went wrong when generating the response if the issue persists.
seamus coughlin
Well, uh interesting.
tim pool
Uh, Gemini did the exact same thing.
The exact number is unknown.
There is no official requirement to disclose.
U.S. law does not require members of Congress to publicly disclose this.
In short, there is no what?
mary morgan
That is outrageous.
tim pool
Okay.
Let's try Venice AI.
unidentified
It's just gonna be like, here's a list of all the Israelis.
mary morgan
Currently, no Congress is known to actively hold dual citizenship.
phil labonte
That's not true at all.
Well, do you guys know legs is a dual citizen?
tim pool
The guy with no IDF.
mary morgan
By his own admission.
phil labonte
Yeah, there's a Congress guy that there's a congressman that was in the IDF that got his legs blown off.
tim pool
Uh Venice went straight forward.
It said uh to answer the question about the dual number of dual citizens, we must consider information available.
From from search results, we can infer that there are significant number of members of Congress who are either immigrants or of at least one parent who was born to another country.
There are at least eighty-one voting members who were foreign born who had at least one parent born in another country, accounting for 15% of Congress.
Similarly, the 119th Congress had at least 80 lawmakers who were foreign born.
To provide an exact number of dual citizens in Congress, we would need more specific data based on the information.
We conclude that there is a notable presence of immigrants and the children of immigrants in Congress, but the exact number of dual citizens is not specified in search results.
Isn't it isn't it pretty wild that ChatGPT and Google are both like, well, there's no requirement to disclose.
phil labonte
That's the exact same thing that Groc 4 said too.
The exact member number of members of U.S. Congress who hold dual citizenship is unknown.
There's no legal requirement for members to disclose dual or multiple citizenship, so no official tally or comprehensive list exists from Congress, the Congress and Research Research Service or other authoritative sources.
This lack of transparency, transparent transparency has prompted recent legislative proposals, such as the dual loyalty disclosure act, uh introduct introduced in March 2025 by Thomas Massey, which would require for federal candidates to report any foreign citizenships.
I would like that to be law, personally, but it's unlikely because there's a lot of dual citizens in Congress.
It's like getting them to, you know, not vote for their own pay raise.
tim pool
So I do Venice said basically information provided, one member of Congress who has served in the IDF is Representative Jake Autchenkloss.
unidentified
Is that true?
phil labonte
No idea.
tim pool
I never even heard of the guy.
Is he still in uh Congress actually?
He is an American politician.
He is a member of the House of Representatives from Massachusetts Fourth.
Uh Did he uh did he actually serve in the IDF?
Oh, wait.
unidentified
Uh I don't know that that's true.
tim pool
It's hard to it's hard to figure this stuff out because it's just there's no like hard reporting on it.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Venice AI says he sir uh he served with the IDF.
adam johnson
I feel like we should know these things though.
phil labonte
Yeah.
adam johnson
I feel like these are things we should know.
phil labonte
It should be at least, you know, it should be at least information that's able to be found.
You know.
tim pool
I don't know.
Venice said it, but I don't find anything online that actually proves that, so I don't know if it's true or not.
And I like to be very careful about that stuff.
Because I'm always hearing people say, like, uh, did you know that Luke Rodkowski's a Jew?
No, I'm like, he's not.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's just it's it's become just a way to sling an ad hominem, you know, more than anything accurate.
People that don't like Jewish people and they don't like what you said.
You must be a Jew.
tim pool
It actually is pretty annoying that I can't get a definitive answer from any of these about how many dual citizens are in Congress.
phil labonte
It is.
tim pool
Because not saying there's none.
phil labonte
It shouldn't be that hard to find.
tim pool
Well, it is.
phil labonte
And I mean, it shouldn't be a difficult thing to find, but it is.
tim pool
Uh, so Grok responded with, U.S. law permits dual citizenship of the Constitution set citizenship duration requirements for members without banning it outright.
I didn't ask that.
No official list or exact number of citizens and members of Congress are it's weird that it answers the question in a way I didn't ask as if I'm retarded.
adam johnson
Uh huh.
tim pool
It's like, dude, I I I I know you didn't answer my question.
I'm not stupid.
We're not we're not a political debate here.
unidentified
I ask you a question, I expect an answer.
tim pool
The answer is we won't tell you.
Okay.
Uh let's see.
It does mention foreign bore.
Example of current foreign-born senators.
Michael Bennett, Ted Cruz, Tammy Duckworth, Maisie Herano, Bernie Moreno, Chris Van Holland.
No confirmed current dual citizens.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Well, there you go.
They say it's debunked.
It's debunked.
adam johnson
No.
phil labonte
Debunked.
adam johnson
As long as it's debunked.
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All right, what do we got here?
Your says the pillow guy lost his suit by default, and his company is getting sold off by the court.
Is that Lindell?
phil labonte
That's the pillow guy.
adam johnson
That's the pillow guy.
tim pool
Uh my pillow sold off.
adam johnson
Is that new?
tim pool
I know it was being I I heard something about uh yeah, I don't know.
I heard something about it, but I don't know for sure.
We'll find out.
Yeah, this was uh NY says, given the Hassan controversy, would it be possible to do line PCC, but instead of crisis party, a team member gets zapped.
Top donation gets to choose.
If you farm the content, Tim, they will super chat.
Um I'm I'm offering up Hassan Piker right now.
An opportunity for a stream where uh Hassan will come on Pop Culture Crisis, and every hundred dollars that comes in, he wearing his own shot collar that he owns will get shocked.
mary morgan
Okay, I could I could be down with that.
tim pool
It's a vibration collar, guys.
Just a vibration collar.
mary morgan
It was originally an idea that every crisis party would pour mealworms on us, so I'm glad that didn't come to fruition.
unidentified
That's where the choice.
mary morgan
Yeah.
unidentified
Why would that it didn't happen?
mary morgan
Yes, we thank God it.
phil labonte
How do you clean that?
You just gotta let the chickens in to clean it up, right?
tim pool
Uh David Flores says, Anyone done a welfare check on Lil Bolton Elod?
Have you texted it?
seamus coughlin
I did send him a message, yeah.
tim pool
Did he respond with a call?
seamus coughlin
I love you check.
mary morgan
Can we phone a friend?
phil labonte
Check see if he said anything.
tim pool
Do you want to call him and get his take?
seamus coughlin
No, I mean you you can uh give him a buzz.
I don't think I I I messaged him on Twitter.
I I couldn't find his number on my phone, which is left you on red.
Because I know I did have it.
tim pool
Fitzy McFen uh uh Fitzseys, ah, the legendary reporter Ryan Riley and his earplugs.
Can anyone confirm was peak Twitter?
And it was really it was really it was really funny because someone once said claimed I did.
They were like, weren't you that guy?
Like the tweet went viral because everyone's making fun of them.
Like, oh, you that guy thought your plugs were rubber both like no, that was the guy from Hovind Post, Ryan Riley, whatever.
But I was there when that happened, and we were like we uh we were all laughing so hard.
But we were also kind of offended because like me and my buddies do we cover conflict and crisis.
So we've been in in disaster economies where a bottle of water is fifty bucks.
We've been in places where you get shot, and none of these retards knew how to handle bullets flying through the air, or like police lines and things like this.
So numerous instances during Ferguson when guns started being fired.
We like I think at least through top of my head, people were just standing there like and I and I'm it's just bro.
I was pissed because Vice put me in numerous uh circumstances where like I was in Venezuela with this one producer, and the simple version is there's National Guard with guns, there's protesters, I start screaming, they're running, the guys are armed with guns, and I tell these guys to move, and they stand still.
I take two steps, I stop, and I scream, effing run.
We run, we find some cover, and then they're going like, oh, what's happening?
And I was just like, oh my God, dude.
Do you see the guys with guns pointing them at people?
Yeah.
Do you see the people screaming at the top of their lungs as they begun to begin to run from the guys who are pointing the guns at them?
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
In a situation like that, where there's loud noises and fireworks going off because they were lighting fires and we don't know exactly what's happening.
You want to run away.
And the guy was like, dude, I've never done anything like this.
I just do music videos.
Not kidding.
That's vice.
That's vice.
And I was like, I'm I'm going home.
I was like, bro, I'm not gonna be responsible for you.
I'm not going to risk my life to try and protect you from a situation you shouldn't be in.
And then uh same thing happened with Ferguson.
And it's basically why I quit Vice.
Because they sent me out this woman who was like standing around as gunshots are going off going, it's just fireworks.
And I was like, oh my God.
Like I can't be responsible for this.
phil labonte
It's not fireworks.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
That's the way it goes, man.
That's vice.
Mulgera says, always love seeing Adam on.
Rest in power to Ace Fraley, guitarist of KISS.
So damn sad.
Rest in power is a communist phrase, by the way.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
It is communism.
unidentified
Yuck.
tim pool
Lax King says, Mary, thank you for the reminder.
I just picked up a few bags of Ghost Blend and Golden Hour to add to the shelf at Chronic Golf and Games.
phil labonte
There you go.
tim pool
We now have every blend and roast available for our customers.
unidentified
Let's go.
mary morgan
Glad to hear it.
tim pool
Pool water will be available soon.
Uh so the Liquid Death guy's like tweeting at me because we're having a debate tomorrow.
And I like, he's he's tweeted at me these two big long tirades.
And one of them was about how we can't possibly sell liquid uh, I'm sorry, pool water for 20 bucks for a 24 pack of glass.
So I said, I said it's glass bottles and it's cheaper than liquid death.
Intentionally, we we so we we we almost make no money selling these at this price.
So he sent me this big long thing where he was basically like there's no way you can ship for that price.
The true cost for running a business is gonna be $82.99 per a pack.
And it's funny.
So uh I'll give him a heads up if he's if he ends up watching this because I don't want to respond there because it's like we're gonna debate tomorrow.
I'm not gonna you know give you the answers to the quiz beforehand, but I will say this.
Um, it's almost like homeboy never heard of a loss leader.
And it's it's uh it's actually shockingly offensive for a company value uh valued at 1.4 billion that he would tweet in utter ignorance of what a loss leader is.
Uh uh, Mr. Johnson, are you familiar with the concept of a loss leader?
adam johnson
I have no idea.
tim pool
This is when a company intentionally sells a product either at a loss or break even because the product promotes the overall brand and increases sales across the board.
Notably, news organizations have always been loss leaders for television networks or channels.
They would have the news at five o'clock because although they didn't make money from the news, there was a cohort of people who would turn the channel on for the good news coverage and then leave it on after the fact, increasing their overall viewership.
Reuters, for instance, famously is not a news company.
Did you guys know this?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
They're a legal documents company.
seamus coughlin
Interesting.
tim pool
News was always a way that they could generate public attention for their brand, which which sells legally.
It's something like that.
So uh when we market pool water at a low cost, we aren't doing it because we're trying to get rich and sell a product nationally.
We have a product available locally, which has minimal shipping costs, and we do it because it's funny and we're making fun of you.
So it's just like this dude sends me this big long tweet being like, actually, the total cost of shipping for a case of this water will be $35, which means you're gonna have to sell your cases reports of $60 now to maintain your staffing, and I'm like, I'm sitting here going like, uh-huh.
Casper did two million in sales last year.
We can afford to take a loss on a marketing campaign for a product called pool water.
I don't expect people to be lining up to buy and drink bottles of pool water.
seamus coughlin
Bro, I'm gonna buy it.
All right, you sold me.
You already got me.
I'm buying it.
I'm gonna I watched my friend build a company out of spite over the course of the last two days.
It's been a beautiful thing to witness.
It's not what I thought would happen when I woke up that morning, but that's where the journey of the day took me.
tim pool
So here's here's the reality of this.
I will be fair.
Shipping liquid is expensive.
So we can sell a case of water to literally anybody across the country, but you're paying shipping and handling, which is gonna be insane.
It's gonna be it, it probably is gonna be like, I don't know, 20 or 30 bucks.
That being said, locally, we're we're already talking, uh, we've already got salespeople setting up.
I want to be very preliminary, uh, very preliminary very it's very preliminary.
But the uh bottling plant is local, drivable for us to pick up.
We don't need expensive shipping, we only hire trucks, we have our own trucks.
We have a uh a Ford F-150 van, which can carry a ton of this water at our own cost, minimizing and reducing almost all the costs.
However, however, I had a discussion with the team today, and we think we're gonna increase the cost to probably 30 bucks for a case of 24.
And for one reason.
We don't uh at the $20 price point, they're shrink wrapped.
And I said, Well, that's a lot of plastic.
And so I was like, I don't I don't want all that plastic.
What are the options that we could do cardboard boxes, but they're more expensive, and we could do paper labels so we could really get the plastic down.
And then I said, Well, let's do that, which means we gotta sell them for about 30 bucks uh for a pack.
But this means that when we go to local stores and restaurants in our area and deliver these at our own cost, it's it's going to be literally pennies on the dollar for delivery.
We are going to profit off of these for local distribution.
Can I real quick?
seamus coughlin
If we want to do national distribution like Liquid Death does, we just have to set up distribution in in local uh I was just about to ask, yeah, if it would be possible to source water in different parts of the country to make it more economic to ship.
unidentified
Yep.
Cool.
tim pool
So you don't have to.
So right now in the area that we're in, shipping is dirt as long as we're selling locally.
So once again, for those that are in the area, you expect to see pool water popping up at restaurants and all that stuff because we have the ability to deliver it and it costs almost nothing.
And again, I think we're we're probably gonna break even on pool water, but the whole point was we're making fun of liquid death with a product called pool water.
And then the joke for carbonated version was spa water and the green tea was pound water.
adam johnson
Love it.
tim pool
This is I don't I don't expect to retire off of pool water.
adam johnson
This is the same thing.
The reason I built the website, unficensed furniture.com is because I like I like trolling the government.
I don't make a lot of money selling hats and pins, but it's enough to fund capital towards to go move electors and capitals all over the US.
And it I I love being a thorn in the side.
tim pool
Earl Jam 818 says this illegal immigrant cop should have every arrest he's ever made overturned.
There's no way any of uh any of his rest would arrest would hold up in court now.
I agree.
unidentified
I I completely I I it's messed up.
tim pool
Let's see.
A rogue pager says, What would you do for housing?
Uh Woodrow Wilson.
unidentified
Huh.
tim pool
Shergle says, I appreciate you talking over the debate.
It would have been better if everyone had sombreros, though.
phil labonte
Fuche.
tim pool
Mecha Mech says, if you want to shock, if you want to shock to your system, search on YouTube No Kings song and just watch the AI brain rot and read the comments.
AI bots everywhere and fueling the fire.
We got to stop these people.
You know, I I I do believe that most of liberals' followers are bots.
Uh I've talked about it quite a bit.
When um Elon announced he was gonna be buying uh uh Twitter, and and this is before it was X. All of a sudden liberals lost hundreds of thousands of followers and conservatives started gaining.
And the theory was that to create the perception of pro of popular liberalism, uh sock puppet, private corporations, Twitter itself, or the government were creating fake accounts to balance out left and right to make it appear as though leftists were prominent and conservatives were not.
Once they remove the censorship, burn the documents, set everything down, all of a sudden people on the right started getting their real numbers displayed, and the left started getting their real numbers displayed.
seamus coughlin
Well, we know that you need a lot of moderating and meddling in order to ensure that the left is dominant on any online platform.
The moment moderation is removed, it the platform always becomes very right wing.
Including like to places further to the right of where I am, to be clear.
But it's just the phenomena that we find.
It requires a lot of intentional rigging, moderating, uh, and rulemaking to ensure that a social media platform does not become very right wing.
If all things are left neutral, it will.
adam johnson
There's a reason why the Mexican president is talking about arresting people for disparaging politicians by using memes and jokes online.
phil labonte
Because the cartel told us she had to where they'd cut her head off.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
But no, I mean, like the in hate speech laws always have to target right wing perspectives or true perspectives.
Obviously, that's because the left's in power, but another part of that is they know that something has to be done to shut that kind of thing down because it's what people are gonna naturally gravitate towards.
The left-wing narrative doesn't work without heavy social subsidizing because everyone knows it's not True.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's true.
tim pool
Mythos says ecumenism is wrong, Seamus.
Aligning with evil for the greater good is a slippery slope.
seamus coughlin
No, so um, this is where I disagree.
It's not true.
There's such a concept as remote cooperation with evil as opposed to direct cooperation with evil.
It is okay to work with people who are not perfectly in line with our values on everything if the thing that we are working towards with them and that specific thing is good.
Otherwise, I could literally only work with someone who was like literally explicitly Catholic on every single issue, and also who shared all of my personal theological opinions on everything, which doesn't even include all Catholics in good standing.
So no, that's not true.
That's not something that the church has said, and we are able to work with people in order to get things done even when they don't agree with us on it.
So I don't I don't know where you're getting this.
phil labonte
It's really uh just encapsulated with the with the phrase, I will align with anyone to do good, and I will align with no one to do wrong.
So like if you're looking, if you're a bad person that has bad opinions, but you're looking to do something that limits the power of the federal government.
I'm probably gonna be like, I I like that.
And if you're a great person who's done all kinds of great things in your life, and you're like, well, but I also want to go ahead and make sure that you know there's some policy that the government should do that I don't want it to do.
I'm not gonna be like, well, he's a great guy, so you know, like that that's that's that is how a normal intelligent person looks at issue by issue.
You don't go and say, Oh, I'm just gonna align with this person because they're on the right.
You say, I'm gonna align with this person on this issue and this issue, but these issues that they're talking about, I won't align with them.
seamus coughlin
And by the way, by this commenter's logic, like you can't, you couldn't vote for a pro-life candidate if they weren't a Catholic on every single issue.
It's like, but the church tells us that we should vote for the most pro-life possible candidate when we're given the choice.
So I again I have no idea where they're getting that.
adam johnson
Well, I think what makes us conservative is that we have principles and we stick by them.
So I mean, I can give accolades to Fetterman when he's doing the right thing.
AOC came out years ago in support of game stonks, you know, people gaming the system.
I'm like, oh my God, I'm agreeing with AOC.
tim pool
This is the fact that I I actually think there's left and right right now, the principle.
There's been great debates over what makes left and what makes right.
It's just pro-America, anti-America.
That's that's really it.
So if you take a look at what anybody we've talked about it before, like if someone's flying an American flag, you know what side they're on.
I think that's really it.
You can you can have like these these middle of the road centrist types who are uh they're liberals, but they're called centrists, and they're like, I'm pro-America and I want the border secure.
Even some of these libertarian guys who are like this the border should be secure, and you're like, okay, I know what side you're on.
adam johnson
There was a uh person flying a Mexican flag in their yard in my neighborhood, and I actually reported them to Ice.
unidentified
Really?
adam johnson
I just assumed.
unidentified
If anything came of it.
mary morgan
Did anything come of it?
adam johnson
No.
tim pool
Oh man.
adam johnson
It was last week, so your time is coming, Pascal.
tim pool
We got a uh we got one from Mary Lurch says, Mary, is nothing ever happening again.
unidentified
Nothing is always happening.
tim pool
Catalyst was, I think I need Tim to yell at me more to donate to twisted plots.
Seamus's pitch just doesn't motivate me.
Why don't you just have AI make like a movie trailer that's really, you know, dark in a world, you know, of child steroids.
seamus coughlin
I feel like it would be more um convincing if I made the trailer, right?
tim pool
Yeah.
adam johnson
Yeah.
tim pool
You should, you know, you should do because you're uh a comedy show, you can say things that aren't true and it's not fraud.
So you could be like, if you don't donate, children will die.
Actually, that's that's actually true.
Like if we don't win the culture where children do die, so it's not a joke.
mary morgan
We need lobois.
Boah.
tim pool
Oh, yeah, and bramps.
Bramp was and bramps.
seamus coughlin
That's how you make a trailer.
tim pool
Yep.
Based Africans, I don't think Trump is acquiescing to liberal judges.
I don't think it's 5D chess, but I think he's biding his time, taking hits to build up support amongst city dwellers and evidence of illegality, like Hugh Jackman at the end of real steel.
Yes, exactly like Hugh Jackman at the end of real steel.
All right, Ian Slater says Zoran just stated in the debate tonight, Albany will pay for his socialist programs.
Him and Governor Hochel can't win their seats, or our state is screwed.
Oh, bro, they're gonna win, dude.
adam johnson
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Everybody fled your states.
What are you gonna do?
adam johnson
That debate was a formality.
He's already won.
tim pool
Yeah.
All right.
random trader says a Muslim and a third candidate were run against the incumbent in Dallas suburb.
Richardson, Texas.
This split the votes of the majority allowing the Muslim candidate to win.
The votes will be split.
Watch out for this trick.
I don't even understand why Curtis Lee was up there.
phil labonte
For the lulls.
seamus coughlin
Well, you know, maybe he'll win, Tim.
Maybe it'll prove us all wrong.
tim pool
The reality is none of the candidates up there are willing to uh uh enforce the law.
Like when they were all asked, should we get rid of illegal immigrants?
They're like, no.
And it's like, yes, 100% of illegal immigrants have committed crimes.
seamus coughlin
That's right.
It's in the name.
It's in the name.
But they don't use the name.
They say uh friend we haven't made yet.
phil labonte
Undocuments.
seamus coughlin
Undocumented neighbor.
tim pool
Newcomer.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
Never summer says Trump should endorse Mam Dani so liberals won't vote for him.
unidentified
I saw Mam Dani's group chat.
Mam Dani is really good.
tim pool
He's gonna help you out in New York.
He's got my photo support.
seamus coughlin
That's hilarious.
unidentified
I like them, Muslims, they do good hummus.
tim pool
I'll take a picture of like a hummus plate with a thumbs up, like it is the Schlip says Mary should sell tofu burgers or something and call them nothing burgers.
seamus coughlin
That's hilarious.
mary morgan
I actually like tofu.
Controversial.
tim pool
No tofu's great.
mary morgan
Yeah.
tim pool
Just don't replace your meat with it.
Like when I go to a Thai food restaurant, I want the tofu and the chicken and the egg at the same time.
You know what the best thing about pod Thai is that you kill the bird and its unborn children and eat them in the same meal.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know.
I I guess you could do a why is that the best thing?
It's just it's metal.
You know, like right, that right, Phil?
That's metal.
phil labonte
Very nice.
tim pool
The unborn and their own corpse in the same sitting.
adam johnson
So hold on, it's metal is fucking metal.
Turduck and stuff.
unidentified
What is this?
tim pool
That you're ducking.
adam johnson
This is the most metal.
Is this birds and shove them inside?
tim pool
You jam a duck into a chicken and a chicken into a turkey.
Is that how you do it?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yes.
Duck is the smallest of the duck goes in the chicken.
adam johnson
You can also throw in like a like a quail.
phil labonte
Quail.
Yeah.
tim pool
I was in uh Arizona recently at Turning Point, and there's quails everywhere.
And they just got those little things on their heads, you know what I mean?
Just running around.
They do.
phil labonte
I don't know why.
tim pool
I looked it up and it said it's for like there's the guys want to get laid.
Um they look at the girls and they wiggle their thing.
adam johnson
They're like peacocking, but like quail cocking.
tim pool
And then the lady quails are like, he's got a big doodle.
They go for it.
I don't know what it's called.
I think that's what it is.
It's something like that.
You know what I when I say when I'm talking about chickens, and I say, you know that that doodle on their head, everybody knows what I'm talking about.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Right.
seamus coughlin
They've got the rubber glove thing on their head.
Rubber and rubber glove.
You're like, what is this thing that's on?
tim pool
It's called Waddle, but you know.
seamus coughlin
Okay.
Well, I like the home and waddle.
tim pool
I prefer.
I like doodle.
Little little doodle.
Turkeys are gross, though.
You ever see a turkey's face?
adam johnson
Oh, yeah.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, dude.
Turkey's sick.
tim pool
Thing of nightmare.
seamus coughlin
It's an affront.
adam johnson
The plan was never to eat it.
We just wanted to cut their heads off.
unidentified
And some sick freak decided to see how it tasted.
tim pool
Yeah.
Okay, what do we have here?
Uh David Brickham says DACA is quite literally a child trafficking enabling law.
Enablement law.
That is correct.
unidentified
That is that is that is indeed correct.
tim pool
Say uh uh what is it say Cyrex core says uh eight USC 1324?
That is all anyone needs to know.
Now arrest them already.
What on earth is taking so long?
Zach Atoll says Nick Fuentes is a Fed and America First is a honeypot.
Stay away.
Look up Ellie Alexander and his America First controversy.
phil labonte
Whatever.
Whatever.
tim pool
The joke I don't I would always make at Occupy Wall Street is when they were like, Tim Pool's a cop.
I would go, excuse me.
I didn't train at Quanico, so I could be called a cop.
Thank you very much.
They'd be like, huh?
adam johnson
I still get accused of being a fed all the time.
There's a picture of me at a uh BLM event uh the night before January 6th, and I'm not on the BLM side, I'm on the Proud Boy side.
I had no idea it was Proud Boys.
Glad that it was.
And uh people take that photo and like, oh, he was at a BLM event.
This guy's an obvious plant.
Or I didn't go to prison for 20 years, so I'm obviously a fed.
tim pool
You should Photoshop yourself into a bunch of different random historical photos.
Oh, I have that for so whenever they say, like, here's Sam at a prot at a protest, you can spell like you put yourself like standing next to the grassy knoll.
adam johnson
I have that.
So there's actually a series called The Immortal Ginger that I do.
Or I mean I'm going through time and the lectern was actually cursed, and I was just trying to return it.
tim pool
The whole The Lectern was first built in ancient Egypt.
adam johnson
Exactly.
Well I sacked Rome.
So there's a picture of a guy walking out.
So it's a whole thing.
tim pool
You should make a picture book.
adam johnson
I'm thinking about a kid.
tim pool
And then it's like you can follow the travel, the journey through time.
phil labonte
Kids' book.
There you go.
adam johnson
I got a kid's book I'm working on.
Come on, March.
tim pool
Actually, it'd be a really funny comic if where it's like you're you were born in the year like 2030.
And when you when you were in your you know late 30s or how old are you now?
adam johnson
Um 40 years old now.
tim pool
So you're in your late 30s.
You went to visit the museum, and when you were taking a look at the lectern, all of a sudden a rip appears in the space-time continuum sending you back to ancient Rome.
adam johnson
Love it.
tim pool
And then what ends up happening is you bring the lectern all the way through history, and then you're traveling through time, jumping through this rip, and one of them just blinks you into January 6th, and you never entered the building.
You just appeared there holding it, look around, and then teleport out, but someone got a picture of that exact moment.
adam johnson
It's perfect.
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
And they traveled through time to find you.
They like sent the feds after you.
adam johnson
Well, my story is I I don't age since picking up the lectern, so I had traveled through So I had to come a ginger.
I don't have a soul, so I'm not aging.
So I had to flee to America because people were recognizing I'm living too long at the sack of Rome.
And uh I had to find directions, new lands.
I gave the Indians blankets for directions and story with that.
tim pool
Uh all right, everybody, smash that like button, share the show with everyone you know.
We're going to that uncensored portion of the show at Rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
You don't want to miss it.
You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
Join the Discord server at Timcast.com.
Via Getty, do you want to shout anything out?
adam johnson
Uh you can follow me on uh Twitter, uh Lectern Leader.
It's L E C T E R N leader.
Uh you can go on my website, buy my book, it's uh unlicensed furniture movers.com.
And the book is called Taking a Stand.
seamus coughlin
My name is Seamus Coglin.
Myself and my team have created over 600 animated shorts.
The left dominates entertainment in this country.
And we can't win the culture war if we're not making culture.
That's why myself and my team have decided we are gonna start making full-length 22-minute long episodes.
We already have a 25-minute long pilot finished.
We're working on crowdfunding the first season of our show.
If you want to help support us, if you want to join the fight, if you want to help us take back the culture from people who are slowly chipping away at it through propaganda, go to twisted plots.com, pledge any amount.
We'll be able to get you access to the pilot earlier.
We'll be very grateful, and you will be part of this fight.
Twisted plots.com.
mary morgan
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And of course, head over to Castbrew.com and grab yourself a bag of Mary's Ghost Blend.
Look at this gorgeous picture of me.
It's totally not unsettling at all.
You should have this in your house.
phil labonte
I am I am Phil the Remains on Twix.
Uh I just did a feature with a band called Zillion.
The song is called Cannibals.
You can head on over to Spotify right now and pre-save it.
It'll be available on 1017.
That's October 17th.
My band is all that remains.
You can check us out on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool
We will see you all over at Rumble.com slash Timcast I R L in about 30 seconds.
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Thanks for hanging out.
Thanks for hanging out.
Thanks for hanging out.
tim pool
Did y'all hear about this?
Uh JB Pritzker made 1.4 million dollars playing blackjack.
seamus coughlin
Listen, dude.
No one to hold them, no one to fool them.
That's what I'm saying.
phil labonte
That's the wrong game.
tim pool
That's the wrong game.
And and actually it's a really good time.
Really important time to tell the story about Seamus.
seamus coughlin
Oh, with the time where you messed up my black jack game.
Seamus spiked the table.
I did.
Listen, and I'll do it again.
I will do it again.
tim pool
We were playing Blackjack like was this five years ago?
This is like five.
seamus coughlin
This was probably like two years.
Was it that long?
tim pool
Yeah, bro.
It was like five years ago.
unidentified
Still haven't.
tim pool
I think it was it was because we moved out here in 2020.
So this must have been 2021.
seamus coughlin
This yeah, this was a while ago.
tim pool
It might have been 22, actually.
seamus coughlin
21 or 22.
It was ages ago.
tim pool
We were all sitting at our own table.
It was like me, Allison, I think.
It's a good time.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
And every the the long story short is the dealer deals it out.
Everybody hits the everyone has 13, like 12 or 13.
But the dealer's got a three, which is ooh, hit a button, which is a bus card.
And so I'm just like, everybody stay, everybody stay.
And then Seamus goes, I'm gonna hit.
And then he hits, and we're like, no, and then the dealer gives him a six, giving him 19, and we were like, oh.
seamus coughlin
And then I won.
tim pool
And then uh what ended up happening is that six would have busted the dealer.
Because uh what ended up happening was the dealer, uh I forgot the dealer had, but it was like a four.
He would have he the six would have put him at ten, then he would have fit a five, then he would have fit a ten.
Instead, he ended up with nineteen pushing with Seamus and spiking everybody else and losing, and we made a cartoon about it, and that's and I would and I I would do it again.
seamus coughlin
I would do that million dollars.
tim pool
Uh let's talk about Pritzker.
I was incredibly lucky.
JB Pritzker sheepishly explains his 1.4 million dollar blackjack win in Vegas.
This is like, what is this?
unidentified
Okay, governor, can you just explain a little more the circumstance of that 1.4 million?
That's that's those are big winning games.
A high roller table where you were you gambling with millions of millions of dollars.
jb pritzker
I I obviously um and I've explained this, or at least we did in a statement, you know, that uh I went on vacation with my wife with some friends.
Um I was incredibly lucky.
You have to be to to end up ahead, frankly, going to a casino anywhere.
Uh it was in Las Vegas.
Uh and uh I like to play cards, and uh so you know that I founded a uh charitable poker uh match here in Chicago called the Chicago Poker Challenge that raises millions, has raised millions of dollars for the Holocaust Museum here.
Um particularly to stand up for civil rights.
seamus coughlin
No, I'm saying like how what does that have to do with him winning in cards?
phil labonte
And that's the point.
seamus coughlin
That's all he's exactly.
So some somehow He thinks that's like a good deflection.
tim pool
He released tax tax records that show that he and his wife had 4.2 million capital gains and approximately 3.9 million in ordinary dividends, and that they're uh they had a gross income more than 10 million dollars.
He's a billionaire, isn't he?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah, I'm pretty sure he is.
He's a he inherited a vast fortune if I'm not mistaken.
So and he's constantly talking about how we need to raise taxes for wealthy people, but then what he allegedly did is removed all the table, all the toilets from one of his mansions so it could be classified as uninhabitable, so he wouldn't pay as much property tax on it.
tim pool
So it says that uh with 10 million dollars in gross income, 1.425 was from gambling.
I'm just gonna say holy fucking shit, bullshit, because 14% of his income from the year came from from gambling.
The fuck does this guy think he is?
Mickey Mace?
This is ridiculous.
seamus coughlin
Maybe he's like James Bond, dude.
He's just really good.
tim pool
Or so so I uh without um impugning the honor of our uh uh Gordito Gordo I think that casinos are money laundering.
adam johnson
Oh, for sure.
tim pool
And uh the easiest way to do it is through casino.
So like at uh MGM outside of DC, highest grossing casino in the in the country is my understanding.
MGM National Harbor, they have in their poker room a closed off room.
So go to the poker room at MGM, go upstairs, and they have a closed room in the middle of the room.
It's a gigantic open floor, except for this one room where you have there's there's it's so it's a box, and then you have to walk around Another wall to get in.
So there's no door.
You walk around and there's a private table in there.
And let's put it this way.
A Saudi prince comes to play cards.
Wink.
And uh a governor plays cards.
Wink.
unidentified
And then the uh prince goes, Oh, I think my hand is pretty good.
tim pool
I'm going to bet 10 million dollars.
I don't know if that's a Middle Eastern accent or whatever.
And then Pritzker.
seamus coughlin
It's an offensive one.
I'll be able to do that.
tim pool
Fritzker goes, uh, I I I don't I think you're full of shit, so I'm gonna raise 10 million on top.
And then because it's no max game, and then the Saudi Prince goes, Oh, I was bluffing, I fold, and then they shove the million dollars straight to the gentleman who then goes, now I won 1.4 million dollars.
And he puts on his taxes, he won 1.4 million dollars.
And if you actually ever track it down, it's casino winnings.
And it's untraceable.
seamus coughlin
Doesn't the IRS have something that says you need to count bribes as income?
unidentified
And we should hilarious.
phil labonte
I can't remember if it's true or not, but the IRS says that doesn't matter how you got the money, you're still liable for taxes on it.
unidentified
Even if it's not legal, that's absolutely that's so funny.
seamus coughlin
I mean, I I understand because then it's like they want to get you on multiple crimes if you are breaking the law.
unidentified
Look, look, look.
seamus coughlin
But it's still funny.
tim pool
IRS guidance for thieves, drug dealers, and corrupt officials.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Bribes.
If you receive a bribe, included in your income.
Income from illegal activity, such as money from dealing illegal drugs must be included in your income form.
seamus coughlin
If you steal property, you must report its fair market value.
You can come in the year you steal it, unless in the same year you return it to its rightful owner.
tim pool
Wow.
Hold on.
Hold on.
If I steal a car and use it to go to and from work, there's value being extracted there.
Exactly.
You're still receiving income.
seamus coughlin
That's right.
tim pool
Like if you rented a car, you know what I mean?
seamus coughlin
But if it's less than $600 worth of income back and forth.
Oh, that's hilarious.
We're not tax attorneys, by the way.
This is not advice.
I that's just hilarious.
tim pool
California is the most interesting, uh easiest way to place the easiest place to money launder because the the gambling laws they have there are that it it's illegal to gamble against the house.
seamus coughlin
Okay.
tim pool
It's actually a really good law when you think about it.
The idea the idea is like this.
California bans gambling.
Um when the person setting the game is in sh is in control of the game.
I mean, think about it.
It's like, hey, Adam, let's make a bet.
I'm gonna make a bet that the next card I pull up is gonna be, you know, the uh the jack of uh hearts.
Would you want to take that bet?
adam johnson
After watching you stack the cards.
tim pool
Oh, look.
So the argument is that if casinos control the game, yeah, and you're betting against them, they can rig the game.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
Games are rigged.
So the idea is they have casinos where they run a game, but don't wager against you.
So there's a commission uh basis or like a rake or something.
So what happens then is when you sit down at a blackjack table, there will be some like fat Mexican guy with a big stack of like a hundred thousand dollars in chips, and then whenever whenever you win a hand, they take chips from him because you're betting against another player.
So you're playing blackjack, but there's a banker, and then they give you the option to be the banker yourself.
So every few hands they'll they'll swipe a chip across the table, and you can say, I'll be banker.
What happens then is you don't play blackjack, you just front the money to the players if they win.
Now here's what gets crazy.
Some of these bets can pay out 20, 30 grand, like dual Queen of Hearts against Blackjack sometimes will pay out depending on the bonus.
So they tell you you need to have at least $50,000 to be the banker.
Imagine you are a you're trying, you're you're trying to, you know, bribe somebody.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
That's how you do it.
seamus coughlin
That feels like a Simpsons bit.
Like they're trying to bribe Homer, but he's too stupid and he keeps losing, even though they're trying to bribe him.
tim pool
That's the crazy thing about playing poker.
If you want to bribe an official, that's it's just it's that simple.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You look down at your hand and you go, I'm gonna bet a thousand dollars.
Then the recipient just says, I'm all in.
seamus coughlin
And then I go, I'm gonna hit.
tim pool
And then they're like, that's a long game.
That's the wrong game.
seamus coughlin
No, I know that was like part of the joke.
There's like 50% of the joke that I was making.
adam johnson
And it's easier than painting and trying to sell those and value those for high.
tim pool
I know that's a stupid thing.
seamus coughlin
That's also nuts, too.
Yeah.
tim pool
Why didn't you just have a uh like poker?
You can you're legally allowed to play poker in New York so long as the person dealing doesn't take a rake.
So you can set up underground games in New York.
It's like it's a it's really popular, it's a big thing.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
tim pool
So if Hunter needed the money, they could just play poker.
phil labonte
I mean, you look at the the Clinton Foundation, right?
Like they were taking in tons and tons of money when people thought that Hillary Clinton was gonna become the president.
And the year after she she lost, like in 2017, they went from taking in, you know, whatever 20, 30, 50 million, whatever they took in, I don't know, but they went down like 90%.
Yep.
Like the re that was in obviously a way to buy favor with the what people expected to be the president.
And nothing ever comes of it.
It is the most obvious, you know, uh the most obvious and out in the open bribery scheme that I think I've ever seen.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, the book deals and the tra and the speeches and that kind of thing.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean you're right, but the Clinton Foundation, like if they take a look at the city.
seamus coughlin
No, no, no, I you're right.
No, no, no.
phil labonte
But yeah, and then the year that she, you know, the next year when she doesn't win, they take in like five million or something like that.
seamus coughlin
I hear you.
No, I totally hear you.
There's so much, it's it's just so obvious.
And it's one of those things that everyone is had suspicions about for very long time, but no one's ever been indicted for anything related to these kinds of schemes, except of course for uh Janesh J'Souza, who's on the right, who was uh indicted for like over donating to Wendy Long's campaign.
And I was I if I'm not mistaken, the first American to ever serve prison time for doing that.
phil labonte
Probably.
seamus coughlin
Um, yeah, the the whole thing's rigged.
tim pool
All right, let's go to callers, and we're gonna start with Steel Manning.
What's up?
phil labonte
Okay, what's up, Steel Manning?
seamus coughlin
How's it going?
unidentified
Hi.
Hey guys, how's it going?
Good.
seamus coughlin
I love the name by the way.
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