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jack posobiec
All right.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard today's edition of not Tim Cast IRL, although of course it is Tim Cast IRL.
In fact, it is Poso Cast IRL.
Yes, the Poso cast has returned.
Tim is of course on assignment.
Uh he is down, I believe, taking care of some business in the great state of Tejas.
But until then, Jack Pasobic is here.
Want to say, by the way, a special thank you to Tim Poole for coming down and covering all of last week at the turning point headquarters.
Obviously, everyone there, we're still dealing with the loss of our friend, the loss of our leader, Charlie Kirk, his horrific murder, and all that uh all that comes along with it, and trying to figure out what the new normal is there.
But um, you know, Tim was the spent the entire week at the headquarters, brought his entire team, everybody out.
We did some great shows together.
We were wearing some breros in the Charlie Kirk studio, and uh we had a had a really good time because the mission continues.
And so uh I'm sure Tim will be listening to this late late uh later, and so I just had to say that you know, from the bottom of my heart.
Really appreciated him being there and showing us the support that he did.
He says it was just because of scheduling, but I know he's in you don't just spend an entire week because of scheduling.
But we're really excited to be here.
I'm excited to be able to fill in for Tim in this capacity because hey, he was there for us when we needed it as well.
And and by the way, we've got so much stuff to talk about.
President Trump talking about the insurrection act.
We saw a ton of violence all over the country this weekend, particularly in Chicago and Portland.
We're gonna get into all of that, as well as the fact that the local officials there are outright saying that they will not comply with the federal government.
And one of which even invoked the words civil war.
Who was it will tell you soon.
Also, new text messages out in the Jay Jones scandal, which continues to spiral out of control in the attorney general's race in Virginia, as well as affecting the governor's race, Lieutenant Governor's race.
We also have huge news about the FBI and Jack Smith conducting secret surveillance of GOP senators and potentially even congressmen as well.
That was just declassified.
But hey, it's clown world, and we're just out here defining the clowns.
So I'm Jack Besobic filling in for Tim, who is on assignment.
I do want to tell you guys about cast brew coffee.
And I'm told, oh man, there are new cast brews, but I forget which one of the new ones are, guys.
Which ones are the new ones?
Mary's ghost blend.
That's right.
I love Mary's ghost blend, which I've never had, but it's so good.
I del I love it.
It's delicious.
Where is it?
phil labonte
It's s'mores.
jack posobiec
It's it's literally s'mores.
Is that right?
unidentified
Yeah.
jack posobiec
Bill's here to help me out.
Oh, it's on the second page.
phil labonte
I think so.
Maybe even the third.
jack posobiec
Guys, if you got a new one.
No, there, no, that's Ian Crafting Green.
unidentified
There you go.
jack posobiec
There is Mary's Ghost Blend.
Oh my gosh.
Look at that.
phil labonte
I mean, it's perfect, right?
jack posobiec
It's literally perfect.
Oh my gosh.
Mary's Ghost Blend.
A hauntingly delicious medium roast.
Mary's Ghost Blend brings the nostalgic taste of campfire s'mores to your cup.
Infused with natural flavoring.
This smooth aromatic blend features notes of toasted marshmallow crisp rich chocolate.
Graham Cracker, perfectly balanced for cozy mornings or a late night whisper.
It's a spirited brew.
You won't soon forget.
phil labonte
Postos ready for Halloween.
It's spooky month.
jack posobiec
We get a little spooky around the Poso household.
And then what was the other one?
Is it Bocus?
phil labonte
Is there Mr. Bocus?
There's Seamus.
jack posobiec
Wait, there's Luck of the Irish Seamus, and we actually have Seamus.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh.
She's back.
That's right.
That's right.
Should I do my spiel now?
Let everybody know who I am.
jack posobiec
No, not yet.
Not yet.
Just talk about the brew.
Talk about the brew.
seamus coughlin
You know, this is some of the best coffee I've ever had, ladies and gents.
If you want to put your money towards any of the coffee here, this is the coffee that I would suggest to you.
It's delicious.
Magically so.
And I'm gonna check with a lawyer to see if that's a I don't know if you're allowed to use that phrase.
I'm not I I'm just saying that it is delicious to the point where I would consider it to be somewhat magic.
jack posobiec
They're always stealing me, Luck of the Seamus.
seamus coughlin
They're always stealing me caffeine.
phil labonte
Does a bag of that come with a spoon?
unidentified
I don't know.
seamus coughlin
I don't I don't I don't understand the spoon's I don't know what that comes from.
jack posobiec
It's incredible stuff.
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jack posobiec
Okay.
So yeah, check out the great new sponsors that Tim has.
But we're also going to be checking out the great new guests that we have.
First time, first time.
Who are you?
And what do you do?
morgan murphy
I am Morgan Murphy, candidate for U.S. Senate in Alabama.
jack posobiec
Alright.
We got a candidate, folks.
We got a candidate.
Should I should I give him the traditional Tim Poole uh Uh, you know, uh Bill of Rights questions.
phil labonte
Sure.
jack posobiec
We'll go through.
We'll get we'll get there.
Don't worry.
Uh what's your background?
morgan murphy
Uh I'm a Navy captain, a Navy captain in the reserve.
jack posobiec
I started off in Navy.
morgan murphy
Yeah.
Started off fellow fellowship mate over there.
I started off uh in magazines though in the 90s, back when magazines had money.
So I was working for magazines.
jack posobiec
What what are those two?
morgan murphy
I know, I know.
It's people don't believe it.
jack posobiec
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
morgan murphy
Right, that kind of magazine.
Uh no, I started in uh Vanity Fair and Forbes back in the in the 90s when magazines we spent more on champagne at Vanity Fair, I think, than they spent on a whole, you know, magazine today.
seamus coughlin
But uh is that when Chris Hitchens was there?
morgan murphy
It was.
I I did a lot of research for him.
I was an intern, so I got a lot of coffee and dry cleaning for Graydon Carter and Christopher Hitchens.
But that was the first time I interviewed uh actually the president.
So I've interviewed Trump back in the day.
We we'd call him if if the stories were slow.
But I joined the Navy Reserve in 1999, went on to become the executive editor of Southern Living, where I covered food and travel, which was like a gravy train with biscuit wheels, and uh eventually got deployed to Afghanistan in 2010 and 2011, which uh killed my neocon beliefs uh when I was there.
We can talk more about that later.
But got into politics after I felt like our culture was collapsing, and if normal people didn't go to Washington and help out, uh we'd lose the country.
So I went up in 2020 in the last term, uh last year of Trump's first term, and was the press secretary to the Secretary of Defense.
And then um after the election was stolen, I went to work for Tommy Tubberville, the great uh senator from the state of Alabama.
Uh Coach Tubell and I fought the Biden administration.
I was proud to stand with him as we fought at tooth and nail over things like the Afghanistan withdrawal, Ukraine funding, unlimited abortion on demand, etc.
Uh and then uh just wrapped up another tour with the second Trump administration working for General Keith Kellogg.
jack posobiec
Based?
Based, based.
Sounds good, guys.
Sounds good.
All right, we'll put you to the test as we go through as as uh maybe not as as uh as uh directly as Tim would, but but we I I I think we can get there.
Let's go around the room a little bit.
You, who are you?
seamus coughlin
Seamus Cogler.
My name's Seamus Cogland.
Some of you remember me from when I would make uh infrequent appearances on the show a while back.
And I've been getting asked this question by fans of Timcast a lot, fans of my work, they're going, when are you gonna go back on Timcast?
Where have you been?
What happened?
jack posobiec
No one does.
seamus coughlin
Some people speculating.
jack posobiec
We've actually been been getting comments that's saying thank you so much for for keeping Tim Urf.
seamus coughlin
No, that's what they're saying.
They're like, what did he do?
How do I get you away from me?
Exactly.
Everyone's very excited.
jack posobiec
So it's smoother and better and funnier.
seamus coughlin
A million times better, and it's horrible when I'm here, but there's a reason I have The reason I have to come back is related to the reason why I was gone.
I am working on something very special.
I've spent the past eight or nine months putting together a show.
I'm making an animated show full length.
The plan is to release it for free on YouTube.
And we just released our crowdfunding video for it today.
It's uh an animated anthology series, it's comedy, it's science fiction.
I think you guys are really gonna like it.
Think kind of like Twilight Zones Black Mirror, but instead of what you get with a lot of modern shows where they try to do this over the top uh pseudo-intellectual nihilism.
We actually have an angle.
We're trying to spread a productive message, but most importantly, we're trying to do it through humor and through story, which I think 99% of conservative humor and content has failed to do.
But I'm not gonna ask you to take my word for it and my word for the fact that this show is good because we've already made the pilot.
It's a 25-minute long pilot episode.
If you go over to Twisted Plots.com, that's the name of the show, Twisted Plots, and you donate to our crowdfunding campaign to fund our first season.
You will be able to watch the entire first episode of our show that's that's available for the first 24 hours of the campaign.
So after the first 24 hours are up, you're gonna have to donate at a certain tier to be able to watch the entire pilot.
But right now, if you go over there, twisted plots.com, you donate, you support the show, you will be able to see the entire pilot.
I think you guys are gonna love it.
I think we're gonna change in shape culture.
I think what we're making here is really special.
And so I want to thank you guys for having me back on here.
I really want to thank you guys.
If you're considering donating, go over to Twisted Plots.com.
jack posobiec
That's awesome.
And like ever everybody knows, of course, James from Freedom Tunes and the work that you've done to push the cultural space.
What um what uh what platform are you using for crowdfund?
seamus coughlin
So right now we're using GivSend Go, but we actually have our own infrastructure set up on a landing page that we built to give people an idea of what tiers they'll get and what they'll have access to.
So as soon as you donate, again, because it's within the first 24 hours of our launch, you'll get an email.
It'll have a link to the the um the pilot behind the paywall.
I think you guys are gonna love it.
It's something we're all very proud of.
We are very excited to make more of it.
So please donate.
Please help us get to our goal.
We're at 30,000 right now.
We need to get to 500,000.
The reason for that is in order to make an animated show, you we basically need a staff of eight to ten people working for an entire year to make this all happen.
So we're gonna need to get this all funded in order to continue to produce it.
But I really think it's special.
Um, I think you guys are gonna enjoy it.
Our full cost for our entire season is actually less than the inflation adjusted cost for what it took to make one episode of South Park in 1997.
That's how efficient we are with our budget.
So I promise we're gonna stretch your dollar.
I promise we're gonna get you good content.
And I promise you, it is not gonna be the the boring conservative drek you get where it's a guy ranting instead of stories being told and jokes being made.
jack posobiec
You know it's gonna be good.
You know it's gonna be good if Seamus is behind it.
seamus coughlin
But thank you, brother.
jack posobiec
If you're also looking for something a little twisted, you might want to check out Shane Cashman.
shane cashman
What's up?
I saw a sneak peek of Seamus' uh new feature, and it's hilarious.
jack posobiec
Is it any good or thank you?
shane cashman
It hurts me to say it publicly, but it is it is hilarious.
jack posobiec
Uh are you paying him $7,000?
seamus coughlin
We have to stretch our budget.
shane cashman
That's why it's $500,000.
jack posobiec
Oh, that would that's what the money's going on.
So that's the $500,000.
shane cashman
Uh yeah, I am the host of Inverter World Live, and tonight I should be getting a phone call from the star of Tiger King, Joe Exotic.
jack posobiec
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
shane cashman
He is calling me from prison at 10 o'clock.
I'll be running out of here at like 9 30 to take that phone call.
jack posobiec
Joe Exotic is gonna call into your show.
This isn't like an AI bit.
shane cashman
This is for real.
jack posobiec
You've done a voice changer.
This is legit.
He's your prisons has signed off on this.
shane cashman
Yes, yeah, yeah.
And he's gonna ask for a pardon.
jack posobiec
Well, I'm sure he will, yeah.
shane cashman
Uh so that's gonna happen.
We're also gonna talk about creepy robot faces, human eggs that are grown in a lab recently.
And I got probe news.
You know, you guys following the probe, the aggressive probe that's coming here from space.
Oh, it's on its way.
jack posobiec
Oh, this is the one you'd be talking about.
shane cashman
Yes.
Every day, every day there's new news, and there is new probe news today.
And we'll get into that later.
Yeah, I know everyone's waiting.
It's coming.
jack posobiec
So yeah, my wife, you know, we were having breakfast this morning, she goes, What's up with the probe?
Do I need I need more info on the probe?
shane cashman
Yep, yep.
Everyone's got probes now.
jack posobiec
She's just been just really really concerned about the probe.
And of course, someone else who's always probing.
shane cashman
Wow.
unidentified
Transitions, guys.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name's Philippante.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
jack posobiec
Probably value.
All right, guys, we got to get into this because uh I know if Tim were here, there goes without question, this would be the very first story.
And we got it up from Politico.
So you know it's true, right?
President Trump, he said this publicly that he's open to invoking the insurrection act itself.
And we know that he's you know been been getting close to it.
We know that he's been uh kind of toying around with the idea.
Uh no, I got to spend pretty much the entire day with President Trump yesterday.
I had the honor of accompanying him on Air Force One.
Uh, we had the Navy did it's the celebration of the Navy's 250th birthday, which actually comes next week, but we celebrated it this week because it's uh uh yeah, who yeah that.
And and it just you know, it just worked out for um for scheduling purposes.
So, you know, shout out to the White House, very excited and very honored to have been able to accompany to ride uh greatest plane in the United States in the United States, the greatest plane in the entire world to celebrate the world's finest Navy there yesterday.
But this was not a topic that came up, but while we were on Air Force One, so he's got he's got the news on, it's always Fox News, of course.
And and you're seeing that yes, they were showing um the the naval exercises and the sea power demonstrations, but it was video after video of the violence that's gone on in Portland and Chicago, just over and over and over.
And And so you you have to imagine that he's sitting there and he's he's watching this as well, and he's realizing that he has the power to change it.
And here's what he came out today saying in response to this.
So a federal judge just blocked the president from sending National Guard troops to Portland, Oregon, which President Trump has said has been taken over by left-wing domestic terrorists.
And I think, by the way, um, speaking of which, I believe Nick Sortor also just had his charges dropped, uh, which is huge.
So the Multnomah County DA, that's where Portland is, has declined to continue up these charges.
He was arrested as a working journalist on the ground targeting all of these things that are going on, just showing us, showing us the truth of what's happening.
He gets arrested, even though you can see all the videos, he's the one who's being attacked.
So God bless Nick Sorator for being out there and doing that.
Here's President Trump.
If I had to enact it, I'd do it.
Talking about the insurrection act.
If people were being killed and courts were holding us up, or governors or mayors were holding us up.
You look at what's happened with Portland over the years, it's a burning, I'll just say it, it's a burning hellhole.
And then you have a judge that lost her way that tries to pretend there's no problem.
Wow.
You're running for office.
Morgan, what do you think?
morgan murphy
Well, I think he's absolutely right.
This came up when I was uh with the Secretary of Defense in his last term.
So you might remember Dr. Mark Esper.
Yep got out in front of the president and said, I don't think there's any need to invoke the insurrection act.
And that's the biggest difference between Trump won and Trump too, in my mind, is that there aren't people backbiting him in his own administration and Trump too.
You're not going to hear Pete Heggsith get out and start making a policy call on whether the insurrection act needs to be invoked.
And we all saw the mostly peaceful protests during BLM and 2020.
And I think the president was absolutely right there to say we needed to put those down and save lives in federal buildings and property.
jack posobiec
Uh but Mark Milley apologized for, by the way.
I'll never forget this, that Mark Milley, they they go and clear out Lafayette Square Park, which is just north of the White House, and Antifa's out there, they're setting fire to uh St. John's Church, which is just you know adjacent to that.
It's all sort of in the same complex just beyond the White House, but it still has a lot of secret service and a lot of protection there.
And they camp out.
The Secret Service is doing what they can to at least protect the compound.
The President of the United States, remember, they made fun of him.
Yeah, that's right because they brought him down to the bunker into the bunker.
They were making fun of, they were laughing about this.
They were setting fire to historic buildings and churches.
Again, but setting fires to churches.
We're ever heard this one before.
And President Trump says clear them all out.
And they go and clear them all out, and they they they did the walk.
Remember, they do the walk there for the walk, were you?
morgan murphy
Yeah, I was not there for the walk.
Um but watched the walk, and Mark Milley was later, General Milley was really upset that he had been photographed and he apologizes.
And he apologized, he apologized to Barbara Starr.
I think he was upset that one, he'd worn his camos over to the White House.
He'd like them because they were roomy, right?
jack posobiec
There's yeah, I never understood that by the way.
Why if you're going if you're going to the White House and you're going to have oval, you yeah, you know, you would wear your class A's.
Absolutely.
unidentified
Everything put on He didn't like the Class A's.
jack posobiec
It just you don't probably know because he looks in it.
phil labonte
Was he on the large side?
morgan murphy
He he I what I'm trying to say, he was uh husky uh side.
phil labonte
So he was probably offended by the Second War's new new.
morgan murphy
He'd be the first one, he'd be the first one.
I love what Pete Heggs said to say is we're gonna make the generals PT.
We're gonna hold them to the same standard.
unidentified
Love that.
morgan murphy
But yeah, he he walked across, he was embarrassed by it and apologized by it.
That's what got uh Dr. Esper crossways with the president because the president makes the policy call, not the Secretary of Defense.
jack posobiec
Look, guys, and we should go around and show this, but I mean, the the violence that's gone on throughout uh Portland, throughout Chicago, and I believe we do we have that clip.
Do we can we play this?
Can we play this clip with the Chicago mayor?
Because as as crazy at Portland gotten, I don't think that we've heard a higher level official from one of these areas say something as horrific as this.
unidentified
Let's at least play the first part of it.
phil labonte
Play it.
jack posobiec
Nice play it here.
phil labonte
Okay.
brandon johnson
The right wing in this country wants a rematch of the civil war.
I just I want that to Sit in right now because the president of the United States of America has declared war on the people of Chicago and people across America.
He's more interested in giving billions of dollars to other nations while farmers in urban city cities around this country are literally being destabilized.
jack posobiec
Yeah, I I'm uh does anyone know what he's talking about about the farmers and urban.
seamus coughlin
He's just making things up.
jack posobiec
Well, this is something that's where are the urban farmers?
morgan murphy
They're farmers.
phil labonte
Well, those are words that came out of his mouth.
seamus coughlin
If they they they liberals, I mean, these leftists, their brains kind of work like LLMs.
They just throw words together into a salad bowl and they shake it up and then they pour it out, and after a certain number of times, they find that specific words get them the results that they want, but there's not actually a demonstration of a real understanding of language.
This is why they call men women, this is why they call everything they don't like racist, this is why you're a homophobe if you know you don't want some pervert dancing in front of your child and drag.
I mean, his words mean nothing, and that's why they mean nothing.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, look, the the left largely doesn't believe in overarching narratives.
There's they're they're just tons of postmodernists on the left, so they don't believe in overarching narratives.
They don't believe that words actually have meaning.
shane cashman
Exactly.
phil labonte
And believe that words are a tool and words are used to assert power.
So the meanings of the words don't matter.
They don't have to believe them.
And if you look at look at the postmodernist philosophers like Sartre and and Foucault, they say things like, I don't remember exactly who said this, but he said it doesn't matter if if I'm actually making a good argument, all that matters is that I'm interesting because they don't believe in arguments.
They don't believe that that people can make an argument from an honest position.
They believe that it's all about power.
And when you have that as an overarching belief, or even if you don't have an overarching belief and you just adopt that mindset, it doesn't matter what I say, all I have to do is say whatever I can say to win the argument.
carter banks
That's right.
phil labonte
That's that's what you get.
You get these kind of word salad, you know, vomiting of words.
And you we would hear this with with the uh the former vice president with Kamala Harris.
She would just say things, and they didn't really make a lot of sense.
jack posobiec
Let's let's let's okay.
So, as as crazy as that was, let's go back to the first part of what he just said there.
The right wing in this country wants a rematch of the civil war.
Which is literally nothing compared, there's nothing that anyone has said at all.
No, we want the enforcement of federal law.
We want the enforcement of federal law to be uh to be done.
We want the it's something called the supremacy clause of the United States Constitution that says that when there is a conflict between state and federal laws, national laws, that it is the federal government that comes first.
And we know that in the Constitution, it is very clear that the federal government has the authority to uh to enforce the laws when it comes to immigration.
It's really simple.
That's all this is.
And by the way, uh, we were talking about this before the show, that you know those mayors and those governors could have done the work to try to prepare for this this coming.
They could have tried to help those citizens or or excuse me, they could have tried to help those people get out of there in the first place, help the citizens have relief from this massive influx of illegal aliens that came in.
They did nothing.
They did absolutely what were they doing?
They were supporting this policy.
So, no, it is not them who are pushing for civil war at all.
It is you and you, this mayor of Chicago, and is the officials in Portland that are fighting this that are the ones that are in rebellion.
They're in open rebellion against the federal government.
morgan murphy
This is why you know his history.
I mean, the history is the history is of the South and the civil war invoking states' rights.
What are these people doing?
They're invoking the rights they're setting up sanctuary cities.
They're saying you cannot have federal supremacy here.
You're not gonna move in here.
So they've gotten the history completely backwards, which is gaslighting.
shane cashman
This is why they're they're a death cult, though.
Because they'd rather sacrifice their city, they let the cities burn, they're like innocent people die, and not let Trump or the government protect citizens.
They they worship this death.
seamus coughlin
I completely agree with you.
And that's that's the purpose of it.
I've mentioned this on the show before.
Leftism is just the intellectual rationalization for social decay.
You find these very high-falutant ways of describing your desire to not do the things that you actually have to do as an adult to keep society functioning, And then you call that a belief system, and like certain other people who also want to abdicate all of their responsibility, treat it as if you've said something profound because you've given them an out.
And so that applies to every facet of society and everything falls apart.
We know Jack, I'm sure would uh happily tell people about the history of this as a fellow papist, but you look at where the left comes from, it's the French Revolution.
That's where we first get this term.
And how did the left enter the world stage?
Uh beheading priests.
I don't know if I can describe this on air, but abusing nuns, murdering innocent people.
This insane, insatiable bloodlust was how they uh was how they broke out of the world's robespier beating prior to the Bolshevik Revolution.
phil labonte
The left are the genesis of terrorism because of the French Revolution, the terror during the French Revolution.
That's where the term terrorism comes from.
shane cashman
And you might remember the school board of education in Chicago, I believe, during 2020 riots rolling out a guillotine in protest of starting schools again.
unidentified
Right.
seamus coughlin
That's insane.
jack posobiec
These are the ones, the guys who started this, these the ones who set it up.
Um, my my British friends get on me when they say, well, actually, America was the first revolutionary.
Okay, but you didn't see that in America.
You didn't see that type of revolutionary reprisal violence.
Yeah, it certainly you saw the revolutionary war, but you didn't see this idea of if every if no one uh if people don't refuse to, or if people do refuse to go along with the revolution, they'll be destroyed.
Uh they what they smashed the Notre Dame Cathedral, by the way, they smashed all the stained glass windows.
This fire in, you know, what 2019 wasn't the first time it was taken down, uh, attacked, I should say.
And it was all the statues out front, the you know, the I think it was the kings of Israel are the statues and some of the saints that they all get smashed and destroyed.
And the entire and the entire cathedral, this is beautiful.
It gets converted into what they called a temple of reason.
seamus coughlin
Reason.
jack posobiec
A temple of reason.
unidentified
Wow.
jack posobiec
And I'm like, Sounds about right.
Okay, so they were just redditors.
seamus coughlin
They're like, yeah, this is quite reasonable as they're smashing a true.
jack posobiec
250 years ago, right?
That's what they were saying.
We are we do not believe in these superstitions of of Christ and Christianity.
We believe in reason and wisdom, and that's why we're going to kill all the priests and nuns.
seamus coughlin
Well, and I I just want to mention this.
The American Revolution, it's kind of a misnomer in a certain sense.
There was a revolt and there was a new form of government, but it was not as if they were trying to completely overturn the entire social fabric and build something new and anti-human in its place.
They didn't try to recreate the calendar, you know, they weren't trying to force religion out of society.
They actually said it was very important for religion to have its place and specifically for Christianity to have its place.
So they were very different phenomena.
And actually, with the French Revolution, many of the people who initially supported the revolution ended up recanting and regretting it when they saw what the the other revolutionaries did.
I don't think that was so much the case with the American Revolution.
They ended up being pretty proud of what they built, and for good reason.
Yeah.
shane cashman
You know, not just ripping everything down and starting off.
It wasn't a cultural revolution.
jack posobiec
Whoa, guys, listen to this.
Um they're they're now saying that this this may be uh this sounds like a cartel.
This I'm just looking at the New York Times updates because we guys, we have to understand what we're talking about here.
And and and we're gonna ask you this in a second.
I think what we're looking through are the earl at potentially the early stages of an actual insurrection against the United States government.
This goes back to the whiskey rebellion, uh, when George Washington, a sitting U.S. president, by the way, rode into battle along with Alexander Hamilton, you know, sort of as his the Sunday never had, you know.
And look at this now.
So federal agents are now accusing a Chicago man of targeting a high-ranking member of the border patrol in a murder for higher plot.
A charge.
They're putting out hits on border patrol officials.
This comes to the Trump administration, uh, and of course, listen to the New York Times.
Floods Illinois, floods Illinois with immigration enforcement officers and mobilizes troops.
Listen to this.
Juan Espinosa Martinez 37 had recently offered 10 grand in a Snapchat message for the killing of an unnamed senior border patrol officer.
And guys, I'm I'm just gonna call it right now.
phil labonte
The name the officer's been named now.
Uh CW CWB Chicago is is saying that it was uh a hit on Commander Gregory Bovino.
That's actually I put it in the So look at this.
jack posobiec
This this guy, okay, here, and they have more in the actual document.
Yo, this guy was a member of the Latin Kings.
phil labonte
Yep.
jack posobiec
This is a member of the Latin Kings.
And I'm gonna tell you right now, this this sounds like a cartel hit.
This sounds like a cartel hit.
They're working with the Latin Kings, and you know, some agent that was that knew too much and was in their way, and now they're they're offered there.
Look at this, they have a cash app account.
Well, I probably shouldn't even post all that stuff.
phil labonte
Yeah.
jack posobiec
They're putting all this out.
They're putting all this out in the charging document.
Look at this.
Look at this.
2K on info, quando La Garen, 10K if you take him down, LK, LK on him.
Right there.
Look at that.
That's that's crime in in America.
This is uh Morgan, you're you're talking about running for Congress or for Senate, uh, to be in the U.S. Congress.
This is what's going on in in parts of the United States right now.
morgan murphy
People have no idea.
They have no idea how large these forces are, uh, how much money they have, how much money these cartels have to fight back.
I mean, the the amount of money that that they have is I mean, bigger than any European military.
So we have to be really careful.
And we have to be have our head on a swivel about things like this.
I'm glad they're on it, but terrifying.
jack posobiec
Where do you come down?
So President Trump, he he is uh federalizing the National Guard, though he's doing so under the auspices of protecting the federal facilities.
Now, if if President Trump invokes the in the insurrection act, let's take it back to there, that means they can actually go out into the city and and put down this is title, this is Title 10 Black Letter Law, it predates the Civil War because the Insurrection Act is 1807, uh was passed in the wake of the whiskey rebellion to say that the federal government can uh federalize the state militias if there is a case of a rebellion.
And and this obviously was something that uh that George Washington himself participated in putting down a rebellion.
So it is not some new law or new tradition or something that Trump made up.
It goes all the way back to our very first president, the founder of our country.
At what point does it cross that line?
morgan murphy
Well, we're getting really close to your point.
I mean, the left projects all the time.
They project on us, oh, you're fascist, but they're the ones using the tools of government to to harass conservatives.
They say that um, and you just saw it.
Uh civil war, the right wants civil war.
Well, I think they're projecting there.
And that you know, you gotta pay attention when somebody tells you who they are, believe them.
seamus coughlin
Absolutely.
No, I totally agree.
All they can do is project, they're constantly accusing you of what they're trying to do.
And when they accuse people of fascism, it's kind of funny because people think that what fascism means is right wing authoritarianism.
Fascism by definition takes on a different character based on what people are being quote unquote represented by that fascist system.
But the core philosophy or the core belief of fascism is that the state exists above all.
Like this is what Giovanni Gentil and Benito Mussolini actually wrote.
This is how the people who defined fascism who created ideology actually referred to it, actually described it.
It's the belief that the state exists above all, is the highest moral authority and can change what your rights are at any moment.
Now, who believes that in the United States of America?
Let's be serious about this.
It's the people who are always accusing everybody else of being fascist.
And this is not I I understand that it's cringe to a certain degree to go like, well, the left are the real fascists, the left are the real racists because we're using their language.
But the truth is, if you look at the actual definition of fascism, instead of thinking fascism just means when right wingers make rules uh or when the law is enforced, you find that leftism and fascism share that similar threat in common.
phil labonte
So to your initial point, right?
So they blame everything, they they blame the people, they they blame everyone else for doing what they they actually do.
It's called Darvo.
It's deny attack reverse victory defender.
That's a typical standard playbook.
Uh it's right out of like the Sololinsky playbook.
Uh it is very standard on the left.
And to your point, um, Seamus, about you know, about the the fascism stuff.
I disagree that they are fascist in that they aren't nationalists.
And that's a that's fair.
That's a key component of fascists.
But they are every bit as authoritarian as they accuse other, you know, they accuse the right of being.
Um and to be honest with you, like the the accusations that they level at the right, I'm getting to the point where I kind of want the right to be a little more authoritarian, to be a little more assertive, because things like you've got judges and DAs that will allow the that will that when the police arrest if the police arrest these people, they don't prosecute, they won't put these people in jail, they allow them back on the street, even up to and including people that attack law enforcement.
The they will assert that they have not done they've done nothing.
We're just here as peaceful protesters.
But everyone, everyone knows that the phrase peaceful protester has been a meme since 2020.
You know, peaceful protester as they're punching people.
jack posobiec
Well, and and here's here's what happened.
So perfect example of this was in Chicago this weekend that I I know everyone's seen the news, but just think about this.
There were ICE agents that were boxed in by 10 cars.
This is a military operation.
All right.
You were in Afghanistan, right?
Did did 10 cars, did 10 cars just show up by accident to bock in or box in a group of troops?
morgan murphy
No.
jack posobiec
No, that is that is an operation.
By the way, this is exactly how uh by the way, you used to know this.
If you're in Afghanistan, what was if if you get a bunch of guys boxed in by cars, what's usually the next thing that happens?
morgan murphy
You die.
jack posobiec
Yeah, you get a V bid.
unidentified
Right.
jack posobiec
Right.
So vehicle-born ID, that is the classic scenario.
I know a bunch of guys who came back from Afghanistan, and they they don't they don't even like um being traffic jams.
morgan murphy
Oh, no, I know traffic jams nine months after I got back going to the mall.
I would worry about I I will never, and to this day, I will not pull up right on the bumper of the car in front of me.
You always leave an exit.
But if what you were saying earlier, I think it's so important about the word and words and how words matter.
As a Christian, you know, my my Bible starts off in the beginning was the word.
Could have started off in the beginning was light, or in the beginning was space, or in the beginning was God.
But it started off the beginning as the word because words are are so powerful.
And if you believe in a higher authority, then you believe in the power of words.
And this thread of our culture has lost the word, and they believe that human beings are the ultimate authority, our government is the ultimate authority, and that's why words are so fluid on the left.
They don't they don't mean anything.
What is a woman?
They don't know.
They don't they won't put uh a fence around it.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Um the the fact that they will use words in a way to just assert power.
Um that's a really difficult thing for the average person to wrap their head around.
Because one of the the blind spots that that liberalism or and when I say liberalism, I mean like a a liberal democracy like our our republican form our republican form of government, where we have a republican form of government, but our society is very is a very liberal, focused on liberty, focused on the individual.
But one of the things that liberalism has kind of a blind spot or is vulnerable to is people that approach the the good hearted and honest debate without the same scruples, right?
If if you're gonna come to a debate and you don't intend on being honest, and you don't intend on on having a charitable conversation, and all you're gonna do is use uh the most hyperbolic eng way to engage that that you can and just assert that your enemies are are evil and you're assert that that their motivations are bad.
The people that want to engage in dialogue are generally at a loss, and it makes it really difficult for people to for normal people, people that aren't schooled in that, people that don't understand how people uh the left will operate as a exactly why John Adams said our our country was built for a moral and religious people.
shane cashman
100% exactly to go back to what Jack was saying about you were saying this is the beginning of the overthrow of our government, those seeds I think were planted 60s and 70s.
jack posobiec
I don't know if it's I don't know if they're gonna overthrow to be fair, I don't they want to overthrow our government.
shane cashman
Well, let's just say overthrow our society.
jack posobiec
But they and that's that's what they want.
In this if but in this instance, what I just want to limit it to this, that when you're looking at Portland, you're looking at at Chicago, which you know are sort of the the pivot point cities, they're the key cities in those their respective states, Oregon, Illinois.
Uh, there's tons of uh parts of Illinois and Oregon that are not in rebellion.
But with these cities being in open rebellion, they are testing whether or not the federal government will have the resolve to do to be able to enforce the law here.
unidentified
Right.
shane cashman
And I think those seeds were planted in probably the 60s and 70s in colleges that postmodernism, teach the deconstruction.
We had the weather underground people who were felons, killing people, making bombs.
They were Marxists.
They went to prison.
They were pardoned by leftists, uh, liberals.
Cuomo did it, Clinton did it.
They went into colleges and started teaching the city.
jack posobiec
And there are no there are no movies about the weather underground.
There you do not see 2500 bombings.
The United States saw between 1970 and like midway through 1972.
So don't tell me, and and you can talk to people who are like, I was live in the 70s.
That never happened.
Yeah, because you'd never seen it in Hollywood.
seamus coughlin
I know.
Well, this is one of those hilarious things that every now and again, and and listen, I'm not trying to put everyone in the generation in the same box.
My parents are boomers, they're wonderful people, they're incredibly based.
But it was just the fact that that generation was particularly consumed by by media and by television.
And I think part of the reason that we're not is because we've gotten more skeptical of what we've been told by by the pundits and the the folks on TV.
But I will say this I when somebody points I saw this.
Somebody pointed out, like, well, the weather underground uh was was setting off bombs and they were extremely violent, but like no one talks about it and no one knew about it because it wasn't on TV.
And every now and again you'll see some older guy commenting, like, no, I was there and it didn't happen.
But making their point no, I know they're making their point.
jack posobiec
But here's the thing.
I was doing that.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, yeah.
Like my parents in my it I guess it depends on what background you're from, because they knew that.
They knew that hippies were real good.
They don't like careful boomers who were based.
But this is oh, I can I can I say one thing actually.
This is I asked my dad this.
I remember when I was like 12.
I was like, Dad, uh, and pardon my French, but I just gotta quote the man accurately.
I was like, Dad, you know, he was born in the early 50s.
So I was like, in the 60s, did you know any hippies?
And my dad, you know, he's a Southside, he's from Chicago.
He's like, we knew one hippie, everyone thought he was an asshole.
jack posobiec
Exactly.
seamus coughlin
He's like they in movies they have you think everyone was a hippie.
jack posobiec
It's like no one liked those games.
There is empirical data.
There's empirical data to show that this did have an effect at the time that is kind of misremembered or just totally overlooked by other things.
And I'll tell you what happened.
Because okay, what were the years that I just said 1970 to 1972?
Well, was there something that happened nationally in 1972?
Oh, there was a presidential election.
That's right.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
jack posobiec
And does anyone remember?
Let's let's put our poly sci hats here.
Who won the presidential election in 1972?
Richard, Milhouse, Nixon.
And how many states did he win?
It was 49 out of 50 states in that election.
So the idea that the 70s were, oh, that was all about the counterculture, it was all about change.
Really?
No, it sounds like it was people like Seamus' dad sitting there going, hey, we need to do something about these crazy hippies, let's put Nixon in there.
And then so then Watergate happens two years later, totally overshadows everything that people were fighting against in 68.
So remember, Nixon wins in 68 and then wins in 72, campaigning on what?
Cleaning up the streets, and by the way, ending the war in Vietnam.
So that's what he ran on.
Um, and this idea that, and by the way, I I I do believe that uh Watergate itself will be exposed one day, and we'll get the truth about how he was totally set up by the redemption arc.
Nixon redemption arc.
seamus coughlin
I'm all in Why does he need to be redeemed?
morgan murphy
All in what happened today makes Watergate look like a parking ticket.
jack posobiec
Well, exactly.
And we'll get we'll get to that in a minute.
We'll get to that in a minute.
Um, because we've got some oh wow, and more spying coming up.
Um, but but I want to hit a a couple more pieces on this before we do get to the next story.
But it's it it does just goes to show you that even though we haven't done any movies on this, and and certainly, you know, do you by the way, Seamus?
Do you have any freedom tunes on the weather underground?
seamus coughlin
We actually haven't done a freedom tunes on the I'm part of the problem.
tim pool
Oh my gosh!
seamus coughlin
Listen, I make fun of the lefties that are around today.
I have made fun of it.
jack posobiec
And how many episodes have you done of that?
seamus coughlin
We so we on Freedom Tunes, we have uh like over 600 videos that we've done.
jack posobiec
600 videos and a one weather, not a single.
shane cashman
Can I just connect one of those CEO to how it's maybe we'll bring them up in twisted plots?
seamus coughlin
Maybe I'll have to bring up the Weather Other Ground and Twist again.
shane cashman
In 2020, so Susan Rosenberg was pardoned by Clinton, right, on his last day in office, I believe.
jack posobiec
That's right.
shane cashman
She became a professor.
And then uh around 2020, she was part of Thousand Currents, right?
Which helped act blue with their money during the riot and all the let's get the arsonists bailed out.
So there's a direct line between those domestic Marxist terrorists to the Black Lives Matter domestic Marxist terrorists.
jack posobiec
And so Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn ended up raising the son of, I can't remember her first name, Boudin was the last name.
Well, I can't remember his mom's name.
phil labonte
Oh my bad.
jack posobiec
Um and so uh they ended up raising the son of another uh pair of members of the Weather Underground who did go to jail for I believe killing a security guard or um when they were conducting a bank robbery, and his name was Chessa Boudin, and he became the George Soros DA of San Francisco.
shane cashman
True, it's true.
jack posobiec
Who actually got thrown out because he was so crazy and he just stopped prosecuting crime.
So again, all of the stuff that we live with, see Seamus has to go a step past.
The liberals that we live with now are the next generation of the Weather Underground.
seamus coughlin
They are no, I don't disagree with you.
Listen, and I've done videos not necessarily on the weather other ground underground.
Sorry, what's wrong with me?
Um, but I I've done videos on what was happening in the 60s and even prior, you look at Alfred Kinsey and his whole series of perversions in the facts.
jack posobiec
Why is Seamus so lazy?
Like why doesn't he's like backpedaling?
He's like asking for 500,000 dollars.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jack posobiec
You can't even make uh uh a 30 second clip about the weather underground just to undid your whole UFR.
seamus coughlin
I was specifically I was specifically asked to do it, and I said, No, because I like the weather underground.
unidentified
Aha!
seamus coughlin
No, but in all seriousness, hey, maybe the weather underground is gonna have to come up in an episode of Twisted Plots, maybe we'll it's worth it.
phil labonte
It's worth pointing out in the 60s, there were a lot of people.
The the average person thinks that all of the the hippies were anti-war and stuff.
And to be honest with you, like there was a small portion that were anti-war, but they were anti-Vietnam war, not because they're against exercising power, but because they were on the side of the communists.
That's literally they were on the side of the Viet Cong.
They were they thought that the United States was an imperial force and that it was evil and that the communists were the actual good guys.
That's why Jane Fonda went to North uh North Vietnam and and did all the you know, took all the pictures that she did and and basically was giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
It was because they thought the US was on the wrong side.
So it's not that they were against war, it's they were against the United States and they were communists, so they were ideologically aligned with the North.
jack posobiec
And and Shane, do you know the um do you know the Star Wars tie-in there?
That do you know it, Seamus?
seamus coughlin
The Star Wars tie?
jack posobiec
Star Wars tie into what he said, what Phil's saying.
seamus coughlin
I don't know that piece of history.
jack posobiec
Okay, so this is great.
So the original draft of Star Wars, which would become the first movie with uh Lucas's script, which is totally thrown out by Fox by 20th Century Fox, was the the rebels were based on the Viet Cong.
And the Empire was based on the United States and France, and obviously he drew on a lot of trappings from like Dune and stole a lot of Frank Herbert's um uh iconography, but that's what he wanted it to be, and he wanted it to be this story where the rebels literally were uh were that and so if you actually watch it,
it doesn't happen in in the first Star Wars movie, but in the third movie in Return of the Jedi, you can really see like some of those scenes when they're on um uh oh gosh, Endor, thank you.
When they're on Endor, it kind of seems like a Vietnam style movie, and that's why.
seamus coughlin
Oh, that's interesting.
shane cashman
I didn't know.
jack posobiec
Yeah, yeah, George Lucas, George Lucas didn't actually write Star Wars, but that's another that's another piece.
phil labonte
Well, you know, Star Wars was already ruined, so you know, Jack just adding that little bit of extra.
jack posobiec
Commie from the start.
But look, we do have uh, you know, look, uh, before we before we go off, I I know I keep saying we're going to I'm just gonna say it.
Um I think if if President Trump were to invoke the insurrection act for for these specific cases and for this specific enforcement power, I think America would be behind him.
The same way that the same country that voted for Nixon in 68 and 72, uh, the same people who can see the abject violence out there, I think America would be for it.
I totally do.
shane cashman
I thought it should have happened in 2020.
jack posobiec
I agree.
shane cashman
I when the cities were completely uh overwhelmed by satanic terrorists.
seamus coughlin
I so I I tend to agree, but with one caveat, I think that most Americans would support it.
The problem is we've got like what between 50 and 100 million people here.
I mean, yes, they say there's only 20 million illegals after they just like left the border wide open for decades and never increased the number of illegals that were here in the statistics since like what like the early 2000s, it's just always been the same number of.
jack posobiec
Well, and what are those and what are those networks doing?
They're putting hits on border patrol agents.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
Exactly.
So I I agree with you.
jack posobiec
This is a thing that's a good thing.
seamus coughlin
That Americans would support it, but that like a quarter of the people in the country wouldn't be.
jack posobiec
By the way, I and and uh I believe they if you go back to Title Ten, if you go back to the actual insurrection act, you're we're not talking about just insurrection.
That's foreign invasion.
You've got foreign invaders on your soil.
If there's a if you can put the tie, and I'm and by the way, I'm sure it's not gonna take a lot to tie the Latin Kings to the cartels.
Yeah, um, that because we keep pointing this out that the street violence that's going on in all of these cities, the gangs are getting the fentanyl from the cartels.
These are foreign linked.
It's right there.
And so black letter law, the president has complete authority and has had so since the day he put his hand on the Bible to invoke this act to stop what's going on in their cities.
And if we get to the point where there are foreign-based organizations that are putting out hits on the border patrol, then look, a a limited, a limited, partial two percent invocation of the insurrection act would be absolutely warranted.
And Mr. President, we would support you.
morgan murphy
We did that.
unidentified
We did that in Washington, D.C. Well, so in DC in DC, it's not a state.
morgan murphy
When it comes down to it, but so it's a different case, but it is, I think, a show of how many people would support Trump if he did that, and if he put down these crazy riots in a lot of these cities, I was in DC when he did that.
jack posobiec
And you know, even in 2020, when he was able to do that, and then again this year, and I remember in 2020 in the riots, and we would have these buses of federal agents and National Guard just coming in, and then you'd see the guys come off, and they're all they're all kitted up, and I'm just sitting there like, let's go.
Let's go, let's go.
Let's let's clean up the streets.
And you see it now with with uh with Washington DC, where it's been it's been totally fine.
morgan murphy
Mural Bowser has come out in support.
jack posobiec
Bowser's for it.
morgan murphy
Like DC's 93 and a half percent Democrat and the other six and a half percent is communist.
So for the fact that that city has has been supportive of the National Guard there, uh, tells me that the rest of the country, I believe, would be too.
phil labonte
That's because they they really do live with the results of having you know having a a police department and a judicial system that doesn't put people in prison, doesn't actually take the criminals off the street.
And this is something we've talked about before on on the show.
Most areas that have a crime problem.
If you arrest a thousand, fifteen hundred people, the crime problem goes away.
Because the police know the same people are committing the crimes over and over and over and over.
morgan murphy
It's not even that many people.
In my hometown, my hometown, Birmingham, Alabama, two miles from where my house is, there was a mass shooting last year.
18 people got shot.
The guy that did it, 22-year-old kid allegedly did it, was responsible for 30% of the murders in Birmingham, Alabama, city of a million people that year.
phil labonte
30% one so that that I mean, I I completely believe you, and and that only you know makes my point.
It you don't have to actually you know violate a bunch of people's rights and and do all this this this large operation stuff.
You need to get the handful of people that are extremely violent, and you put them in jail for uh you know, until they're 50, right?
So that way they're no longer all young and full of vim and vigor and want to go out and get weird, right?
Put them in jail until they're old men, and then the whole population is better for it.
And that's all that really needs to happen.
And that's what is DC.
Yeah, that's something that has happened.
jack posobiec
So, as as crazy as this is, we have some more.
We have some more craziness going on because we say, all right, we're gonna we're just gonna get the laws enforced.
That's what we all want.
We just want the laws enforced, we want the rules enforced.
But our second story tonight, we have more text messages from Virginia Attorney General candidate Jay Jones.
Now you may have seen over the weekend, or if you didn't, that uh this guy, Jay Jones, got into a little bit of trouble for text messages that he put out in well, I should say he that he sent in 2022.
They just came out in the wake of him running, where he sent text messages to a GOP house delegate, a woman, uh, talking about and and my gosh, I I actually can't even read this on air, so I'm not gonna read it,
but he talked about specific killings of other uh and in detail in graphic detail and uh referred to his um opponents as you know, he said Gilbert was the guy's name, and then he said, Gilbert, Hitler, and Paul Pot.
Gilbert gets to the head.
I'm reading his comments, by the way.
Um, put him in the crew with the two worst people you know, and he receives two every time.
He then after after the woman, listen, just listen to this.
This is how horrific this guy is.
After he she asked him to stop texting her that stuff, he then repeated reportedly called her and suggested that he wished his wife could watch her own child die in her arms so that he might reconsider his political views.
This is a guy who's running for AG in Virginia.
Now he's been endorsed by all the Democrats.
None of them have rescinded their their endorsements.
Uh Joe Scarborough, though, I'll give him credit on this.
He has called for him to withdraw.
He has called for him to drop out of the race.
So all right, he's done that.
But now there are more text messages that came out.
So those came out over the weekend.
Now there's more text messages that came out.
Talking about police officers.
The Virginia AG candidate, Jay Jones said if more cops got killed, they wouldn't shoot so many people.
seamus coughlin
It it firstly, according to a lawmaker.
Oh my gosh, that's insane.
Firstly, it is literally the exact opposite, by the way.
Like aside from how hideous that statement is, the reason police officers fear for their lives is because there's a legitimate threat and they are being killed.
But secondly, this is twisted beyond normal wrath.
There, there's something deeply psychologically wrong with this person.
This guy's a gross little creep.
I wouldn't trust him with a butter knife.
How could he have an elected position in the United States?
jack posobiec
Gilbert and his wife should have to watch their fascist children die in their arms.
seamus coughlin
That's sick.
That's really sick.
jack posobiec
It's a it it really is a sickness.
It's it's not just he doesn't actually care.
And this is what I I wrote my book about this, my anti-communist book.
I said they actually aren't interested in justice or equality or or any of these things.
This is what they want.
They actually do have this desire to see their opponents killed and their families killed.
And look, I'm gonna say it.
If you thought that I was being uh that I was, you know, uh, you know, talking a little bit too much, go look at the reaction of Charlie Kirk's murder.
Go look at the way this people celebrate and they say, Well, what about right wing violence?
I say nobody on the right celebrates violence like this.
Nobody that's that's never happened.
phil labonte
Yeah, that's an argument that I make.
People like to go ahead and do the whataboutism.
I had a little rant the other day about people talking about Paul Pelosi.
Nobody on the right was saying it's good that Paul Pelosi was attacked.
I'm glad he was attacked.
He was saying things that I really hate, and I want to see whoever is the you know, whatever next person in line.
They didn't celebrate it.
They did laugh at the circumstances, they made jokes about the fact that he was in his underwear, there was a bunch of rumors going around about the the you know the context and and the situation, but they weren't celebrating, they weren't doing the same thing that the left did.
When the left found out or saw the video of Charlie getting killed, they were instantly celebrating.
They were saying, Thank goodness, thank God, blah, blah, blah.
We're happy about this.
We want to see more of this.
And they started releasing lists of other people that they thought that should be next.
You know, present company included, people like Tim.
morgan murphy
Um, demon self-identified.
phil labonte
Yes, right.
And so the this this idea that the left and the right are comparable, it it is it is absolutely fallacious.
It is absolutely not true.
The left has been a an openly terrorist organization, at least if if you want to be charitable, at least since 2020, when they were rioting and burning down cities over what it is basically was basically basically a lie.
And also they had been they have been using government as in local district attorneys and local uh police departments and local judges to to allow criminals to remain free.
And and basically allowing these people to terrise, you know, normal good hardworking Americans.
morgan murphy
Morgan, the silence from the left right now is is is truly shocking.
That they, if you don't condemn it, you condone it.
They're not condemning that.
Uh I'll tell you, I I had not been announced for Senate for 24 hours before people started calling me fascists online.
My 10-year-old nephew uh said to my sister, said, I don't want Uncle Morgan to run um for Senate because I don't want him to be killed.
He had seen the Charlie Kirk news.
And that has affected a whole generation of people.
It's chilling them out of uh is chilling them out of public service.
People don't want to go into public service.
People say to me all the time, I can't believe you're doing this.
I can't expose believe you're exposing yourself to it.
But I never thought I'd expose my son or my family to this kind of this kind of rhetoric, this kind of planned violence.
He's that that's I mean, you you know criminals, they imagine uh the violence before they commit it.
That's what's so frightening about his words.
unidentified
That's it.
seamus coughlin
No, that's absolutely right.
And people try to pretend that there's this separation.
Things don't happen in the world that didn't first happen in the human heart.
morgan murphy
That's right.
seamus coughlin
People will fixate on something and then they will eventually do it.
And when it comes to left-wing fantasies of of harming children, whether of this variety or others, we're told by certain left-wing activists, firstly, tacitly by the people who are silent about this, but also about others who will try to argue that oh, well, somebody thinking about something doesn't mean they're gonna really go do it in real life.
If someone's an alcoholic, do you give them the advice that they should think about drinking all day?
Because that's going to be a good outlet to get them to stop drinking.
Obviously not.
The reason they say it's okay for people to quote unquote muse, which is the word one article used to describe this man fantasizing about these children dying.
The reason that that they say that it's okay for these people to muse about this is because of course they know what we know that thoughts lead to actions and they want it to happen.
They want that to happen.
morgan murphy
Guard your thoughts was thoughts become words and words become actions and actions become destiny and your character.
phil labonte
There are people that are on the on the supposedly moderate left that have said things like there's a streamer named Destiny that said things like, Look, we want to see conservatives afraid of dying if they go out and and promote their political opinions.
So that way they will they will petition their leaders to tell them to turn the to turn the rhetoric down, to turn the temperature down, which is on its face, that's a dumb thing, right?
We're going to endorse terrorism because terrorism works.
That's exactly what he's saying.
We want these people to be terrorized so that way they will tell their their leaders that the you know people like Donald Trump that that they should not, you know, they should do things to turn down the temperature.
We'll turn the temperature up in order to get them to turn down the temperature, which is historically a massively counterproductive effort, right?
People don't respond to terrorism by saying, especially on the levels that that would be thought possible in the United States, right?
You're not going to get a massive terrorist attack, or or you're not going to get massive terrorism, amounts of terrorism out of the left nowadays.
And if you did, I mean, look what happened in 9-11.
Like we we we mobilized the entire country to respond to a terrorist attack that killed 3,000 people.
Like the idea that terrorism is going to produce the right, was going to cow the right and make the right say, no, we should, we should, we should tell our leaders to turn down the temperature.
That is an objectively stupid thing to think on its face.
That that never happens.
Historically, that never happens.
But this is something that the people on the left, and again, this guy supposedly a moderate, you know, on the moderate left.
He's not what you would consider a communist.
He's not what you would consider a socialist.
He he talks about very he believes in capitalism ostensibly and stuff, but he says things like this.
And that's something that you get on the left broadly nowadays, which is why you saw people celebrating.
jack posobiec
And where do where where are the excuse me?
Where are the calls for Jay Jones to tone down the rhetoric?
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
jack posobiec
Where are the calls for a Democrat member?
Uh a guy who's running for on AG on a major party ticket.
He's the running mate of Abigail Spamberger.
Yeah, you know, you have not heard anyone.
Anyone, no, I will say MS MSNBC's called it.
All right.
But you don't hear I'm I'm not getting hit up by a reporter saying, when are we gonna, you know, Manu Rajo isn't running around uh Capitol Hill saying, Well, are you gonna are you gonna tone down the rhetoric?
Are you gonna disavow?
Are you gonna disavow?
Where is it?
Where this?
Because when my friend was murdered, all right, three weeks ago, and the very first thing I heard was, Are you guys gonna tone down the red egg?
I'm like, I haven't even said anything.
I haven't even said a word.
seamus coughlin
It's disgusting.
jack posobiec
Why aren't you guys gonna tone down the reddit?
I said well, first of all, my friends in a box, uh, there are bullets flying.
One of them hit him, and there's bullets flying at ice agents, and the media's first response is to ask the right to tone down rhetoric when we're the ones who are catching bullets all of a sudden.
phil labonte
They literally said, Will this terrorist attack work?
That's what they're saying.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, you're right.
shane cashman
They're projecting.
jack posobiec
That's right.
shane cashman
They're always projecting, like we were saying earlier.
And some people have told me it's only it only exists on the fringes of the left.
And I'm like, I think there's a we're experiencing sustained widespread political bloodlust across the whole base.
I was in New York when Butler happened.
Yeah, and I was at like a family function.
Some old friends will say this one in particular ex-friend said too bad Trump didn't get it right.
My mother-in-law was in Manhattan when uh Charlie was executed.
And she found out because someone said, Thank God, on the street on the sidewalk.
These people feel open to be that bloodthirsty.
Uh, and these people aren't talking out against it because they all kind of feel that way.
It's not like this guy is not unique to him.
They all feel this.
It's our last resort is violence.
jack posobiec
And I and I think there's far too many.
We saw the celebration of the death of Charlie Kirk.
Is is Jay Jones in elected office now?
phil labonte
Is he no, he's running.
jack posobiec
No, but but I mean, is he like a state, you know, uh state delegate?
Because they said he was in the he was in the state delegation.
Attorneys, he hope he's a former, yeah, he's a former member of the House of Delegates from 2018.
seamus coughlin
I can't even look at his face.
jack posobiec
So he had just gotten out creepy.
He had just gotten out of disgusting the Virginia House of Delegates when he sent these messages, and apparently he was sending it to a a friend that thought would share that he would, you know, perhaps share her beliefs.
Or then he starts calling her and berating her.
seamus coughlin
But this speaks to what you were just saying, Shane.
Why would he think that someone else would be open to hearing that?
Probably because a lot of people on his side of the political aisle have been.
He was probably surprised by the fact that someone was upset by it.
jack posobiec
Look, you see these people in in in in DC, Morgan, you've been to DC, you know how it's like.
I'll never forget, by the way, of all the text messages, and this doesn't line up to our next story of all the text messages between uh Lisa Struck, or excuse me, Lisa, Lisa Page and Peter Shruck, the one that always stands out with me is the one that talks about how all of DC just looks down on middle America and just hates middle America.
And they and they said, they said you can smell the Walmart on Trump supporters.
Yeah, you can smell the Walmart on them.
And that is that that elitist bubble in which all these people live that they they think we are better, we are the anointed ones, we are the best, and all you all you hicks, all you inbred, uh, you know, gullible losers stuck in the middle of the country.
Yeah, the bitter clingers that Barack Obama said.
seamus coughlin
The great unifier Barack Obama, the very like all of his memorable quotes were just nasty, horrible things he said, but he wasn't as funny when he said them as Trump was.
It just kind of came off as bitchy and sad.
morgan murphy
Look at the timeline of the invective, though.
Look at where we started under look at where we started under Barack Obama and where we are now, right?
We've gone from clinging to their guns and their Bibles, and then we got into their fascists and their you know, they're their authoritarians, and now they're just simply let's just kill them.
shane cashman
Yep.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
phil labonte
Yeah.
shane cashman
That's what happens when you say literally Hitler for my eight years.
jack posobiec
And you say it over and over and over.
So as horrific as that is, unfortunately, that's where we're at, where not only are we seeing the violence, not only seeing the open rebellion, we're also seeing these statements being made by a major party candidate for an extremely powerful office, by the way, and no pushback, no pushback from his own party.
But let's talk about what they do when they actually do get into power, and then of course they lie about it so much that we can barely find out information in Our next story.
Story three here breaking, and this was really just breaking as soon as we came into the show today, tonight.
So we haven't all had a huge chance to get into it, but I think we'll understand it because unfortunately it's something we've been talking about for a long time now.
Biden's FBI was spying on Republican senators under the Arctic Frost investigation.
Senator Grassley has come out and put out this information.
I believe there's a statement now as well from uh Dan Bongino.
And Senator Grassley put this out, released a document on X showing the FBI conductor surveillance on eight Republican senators, part of an investigation called Arctic Frost.
Now, this is the same investigation that targeted our organization TPUSA in the wake of January 6th.
Grassley wrote, This document shows the FBI spied on eight of my Republican Senate colleagues during the Arctic Frost investigation to quote election conspiracy.
Arctic Frost later became Jack Smith's elector case against Trump.
Biden FBI weaponization equals worse than Watergate.
This is what Morgan was referring to earlier.
And let's let's go down the list.
So an FBI special agent conducted a preliminary toll analysis on limited tolls record records associated with the following U.S. senators.
So that they're talking about specific phones in this case.
Senator Mike Kelly, Senator Lindsey Graham, Bill Haggerty, Josh Hawley, Dan Sullivan, Tommy Tubberville, Ron Johnson, Cynthia Loomis, and Marsha Blackburn.
Morgan, you you worked for Senator Tupperville.
What's going on here?
morgan murphy
I was there during this period.
unidentified
I mean, they're they're flat out trying to stop people under the two hop rule, your phone was probably hit uh for sure caught up in this as well.
morgan murphy
Well, absolutely.
It was it was for absolutely caught up in it.
They hated him.
They hate it.
The established the blob, as I call it in Washington, and it is the uniparty blob, cannot stand people like Tommy Tubberville because they can't control him, and because he's off script, and they can't they they cannot stand that.
And so that's why they went after him.
Uh and it it's it's disgusting to me to see our own government going after elected officials.
He owns he he holds the election certificate.
He was elected by six and a half million people in the state of Alabama to represent them in the halls of Congress in the U.S. Senate, and here they're spying on him.
What are they trying to get exactly?
shane cashman
Power.
This reminds me of COINTELPRO.
Right.
I mean, the government spied on different organizations, obviously ones I don't agree with, but still they spied on him, and that led to assassinations.
Uh and that was a horrible thing.
morgan murphy
The apparatus of government at the highest level at the FBI, at the CIA, at the IRS, all of the three letter agencies to harass and dig dirt on Republicans.
It just cuts one way.
phil labonte
It's it's worth noting that just about an hour ago, uh Senate Majority Leader Thune um mentioned uh he or he tweeted, he said, I have grave concerns about the a new report showing that the Biden era FBI spied on Republican senators, and I fully support Senate committees getting to the bottom of this outrageous abuse of power and weaponization of the government.
That was also uh re retweeted by uh Harmy Dillon, the assistant attorney general.
Um, so it is a positive step, or at least I think that it's a positive step that the a lot of the people in DC, uh people in the DOJ and in the Senate, they're paying attention to this, and it looks like this isn't gonna be something that just gets swept in the world.
morgan murphy
We have got to root them out.
Absolutely have got to root them out.
Yeah, and and we don't have a lot of time to do it.
We're gonna lose the country if we do not root this kind of corruption out of our government.
phil labonte
Cash Patel was also tweeting about it as well.
So, like I said, it's it's it's it's obviously not uh a guarantee that something's gonna be done, but at least the right people are aware of it and making it making it known.
So I I do look forward to some kind of uh hearings on you know on Capitol Hill.
And and I mean, there should be an investigation by the DOJ, you know, the theory.
morgan murphy
And I believe he's going to do it.
I believe he's gonna I work for Cash Patel, and that's a guy that's not gonna back down.
He's going to he's gonna chase it out.
Um, but we've got to support them because they have declared war on us and they've said very clearly what they want to do.
The Democrats have said, we're gonna pack the Supreme Court, we're gonna get rid of the filibuster, we're gonna make DC and Puerto Rico a state.
We're gonna stuff the Senate.
Um, we're gonna, you know, write law from the Oval Office and never mind Congress.
Uh, and then we're gonna use all of the tools of government so that you never win an election again.
jack posobiec
So this is why this is why I keep saying to all those people that come out there and say, Well, hold on, guys, if if we do something, what what's to stop the left from using it against us?
What's the stop the I say, guys?
morgan murphy
They're using it.
jack posobiec
Just look, what did we give they had four years?
They had four years of power, and what did they do with it?
morgan murphy
What have they not used it against?
jack posobiec
They were using it to, they were using the roundups patriots, 1600 of them after after Gen 6.
They didn't care if you were throwing punches or just walking around peacefully or praying on the steps of the Capitol.
You didn't even have to go to the Cap Capitol.
Some of the Jan Sixers were arrested who hadn't even gone to the Capitol complex.
And then what did they do?
They went a step further.
What who did they launch investigations into?
Charlie Kirk, turning point USA, as well as 92 other Republican groups and individuals replaced under scrutiny.
I'm sure, you know, probably like all of us in the room.
Um, and and now we're finding that in Arctic Frost, this this massive sweeping operation included eight sitting US centers.
This is like this is like when when East Germany fell and the Stasi records became do you guys know about this?
Yeah, that when the Stasi records became available for public view, you could go to the East German secret police headquarters and request to see your file.
And if you ever go watch this movie, massive shout out, you absolutely have to see it.
It's called The Lives of Others.
I watch it every couple years.
The lives of Others is the greatest movie on communism that has ever been made.
Um, and it is told through the eyes of a German secret police uh agent as he's um as he's conducting surveillance on this guy who's a playwright that he's worried is putting anti-communist messaging into his plays and his girlfriend who is also like the leading lady in the plays and the way that the party and the manipulation and everything that goes on,
but all it's all through us watching through little cameras and listening on on the headphones the entire time.
And at the very end, the guy goes to request his own file and then says, Oh my gosh, all of these things that I thought were just random occurrences, it was all an intelligence operation that was being run against me and these horrible things that were going on in my life, and and it's obviously based on so many true stories, but this is what happens, and we saw this during COVID.
So let's let's go back a little bit.
People say, where does this come from?
And yeah, there's philosophy, and yes, it comes from the 60s, but I think there's something in human nature as well, and I want to ask you about this, Seamus.
There's something in human nature, and we saw it come out during COVID that people love having power over another.
And you remember the snitches and the snitch lines in the UK and and some states, Tim Waltz was doing this, the snitch lines.
Oh, I can't wait to snitch on my neighbor.
What is that about human nature, Seamus?
seamus coughlin
So there's something about us as humans, which is just constantly trying to drag us to hell.
We do have a fallen nature.
There is goodness in humans, there's good things about us, but but there is a woundedness that we carry with us because of our first parents.
And I believe it was Chesterton who said this that original sin is the most controversial but best evidenced Christian belief.
It's like if you just look at the world and history and how it's operated, you go like, there's something wrong with these people, right?
Everyone is like this, you know, uh perfect person is you know Rousseau would say that we are corrupted by society.
The truth is we like power.
Uh we're prideful creatures.
We believe that we are God.
We're we're constantly trying to make ourselves gods.
There's a great quote from from Fulton Sheen.
He said, The uh I'm gonna butcher this, so forgive the paraphrasing, but he said it now comes down to those who believe God became man and those who believe man will become God.
morgan murphy
Yeah.
jack posobiec
Charlie was uh was a huge Fulton Sheen guy.
Charlie and I were always sending Charlie would tell me that he's a he said, Jack, you know what I'm doing today?
I said, What?
He goes, I've just got Fulton Sheen, and he's on repeat.
seamus coughlin
I've got the long bless him.
jack posobiec
I've got the long clips on YouTube, and just watching Fulton Sheen over and over and over.
I said, Man, there now there's a there's a Catholic you could put on his number one show in America, but when he was on TV number one show.
And And you're right, there's something about the fallen nature.
There's something about people wanting that power.
They say pride was the first sin.
And I think there's something when you see this, and it gets unlocked when you give those types of people absolute power.
And we saw it in Merrick Garland, we're seeing it with Jack Smith, and we saw it in East Germany.
It's the same exact part of human nature that goes all the way down to even the very lower levels.
And what did we see?
What else do we see after Jan 6?
We saw family members turning in their own relatives.
They would say, Yeah, go ahead.
unidentified
Go ahead.
phil labonte
Well, the the idea of going no contact, that's something you hear from the left all the time, right?
If you have a family member that is in somehow upsetting you and and politically has uh an opinion that you don't like or yeah, they just stop, you know, break off the connection.
That's the kind of thing that cults do.
Right.
Like you should be able to reconcile or deal with the fact that your family is going to have different different opinions to you, and it's perfectly fine to disagree because there's still family.
The left behaves like a cult, and I don't want to get into the the specific definition of cult and stuff like that.
But when you have a group of people telling you that you should break off contact with your family because they disagree with you, they are not your friend because they will kick you to the curb the instant that you do something that they disagree with.
Your family is probably not gonna do that.
shane cashman
Dude, my grandma lived with me when she was dying of leukemia, and uh I she you know word got out that I didn't think J Six was so bad.
Oh my gosh, and uh a family member had to come by and had this.
I walked in on a secret little meeting he was having, a struggle session with my poor grandma dying of leukemia, basically calling me an insurrectionist for not condemning J6 and thinking it was as bad as 9-11 or Pearl Harbor.
Uh it was wild.
morgan murphy
Oh, listen, I was in the Secretary of Defense's office on J6, standing next to the Secretary of Defense, listening to the calls that came in, and I would tell people at home, like, yeah, Nancy Pelosi called in and was she terrified?
No.
What did she want?
She wanted a sandwich.
She said she was hungry, she wanted the Department of Defense to deliver her food like we were Uber Eat.
And and liberal friends of mine are saying, You're making that up.
Yeah, that's not true.
shane cashman
Same lady who got her hair done during COVID, right?
In lockdown, right?
I don't think it adds up.
seamus coughlin
I don't know if he he coined the term, but he might have, but John Doyle talks about a theater kid occupied government.
jack posobiec
Uh yeah, I've seen that.
shane cashman
I've seen this a few times, yeah.
seamus coughlin
You can totally see that with these people.
Like, I was there and I almost died.
It was horrifying.
jack posobiec
Do I need to do I need to break out?
So when AOC claimed what she claimed on January 6th, I I actually I I threw up a map break and I drew a map of where the Capitol is and how far away her office is from any of the things that were actually taking place.
For for example, you could be on the other side of the Capitol and not know that there was anything taking place that was untoward on the uh I guess that would be the west side of the Capitol.
If you're on the east side, you you would have no idea.
You have no idea whatsoever.
And how do I know this?
Because I was coming down uh Capitol Hill that morning, or I should say rough roughly around that afternoon.
You know, it started in the morning.
We were watching Trump's each there with Rahim Kassam, we're coming down the hill, and you know, at first it's just hey, it seems like there's a lot of guys in red hats over there.
Yeah, I see.
And then, and then what did we see?
A peaceful crowd.
Now, they were they were on the steps to be sure, but they were peaceful right up until the point where the Capitol Police threw flashbangs into the crowd.
That is what set off the violence that day.
It was the response to this, which was totally a break with the rules of engagement.
There were no calls to disperse, there were no loudspeakers used, there was nothing like that.
They threw flashbangs into a peaceful crowd, and I will always remember that because I saw it with my two my my bare eyes.
morgan murphy
But Jack, there were no federal agents at fully not 275.
seamus coughlin
Well, this is the other thing.
I remember we had just finished the summer of unhinged leftist rioting where billions of dollars in damage was caused, and anywhere between 20 and 30 people died, depending on the numbers you're looking at.
Billions and and and raise billions.
Exactly.
Raised for BLM.
Many uh homes were destroyed.
Many businesses were destroyed.
And what were we told?
We were told, well, you know, rioting is the language of the unheard.
And then on January 6th, they went, you know why these people are writing?
Because we're listening to them too much.
We need to make sure.
And so they said rioting's the language of the unheard when the left was writing.
And then when the right had like a riot that was instigated by feds, they went, well, the only way to stop this from happening further is to ensure that they're totally unheard forever.
They banned them from every platform.
They started throwing people in prison.
morgan murphy
We put 25,000 troops at the Capitol.
phil labonte
Yeah.
morgan murphy
To get into my office by 25,000 troops.
By some context, there were 2500 troops in Afghanistan.
Nancy put 25,000.
seamus coughlin
I'm surprised Biden didn't leave the guns there.
morgan murphy
You know, it's a public building.
The Capitol is a public building.
You can go walk in it today.
Anybody can go walk in the Capitol, and I suggest you do.
It's a public building.
And it was not opened back up until Republicans were back in charge of the House and Senate.
It was shut down.
And that's the way the left wanted it.
They didn't want the smelly Walmart people coming to visit the Capitol, coming to visit their offices.
They didn't want them in there.
And J6 was a great excuse to keep them out.
phil labonte
To Seamus' point, um, again, what they said didn't have meaning.
It was all about exercising power.
They don't, there's no, you can't call them hypocrites because they don't have principles in the first place.
One of the things that they're, that I'm seeing a lot now is like, when you're like, oh, you know, we have to worry about the fact that there are terrorists that want to terrorize Americans for their political beliefs.
They want to use violence to get Americans to change their political beliefs.
And then they the left will say things like, oh, now you're not a now you're not pro-free speech.
Now you're a hypocrites, blah, blah, blah.
You don't have principles.
The fact of the matter is, this is another exercise of power, and it has nothing to do with what they believe because they don't believe in free speech.
They don't believe in any of the things that they will assert.
And we've seen it for the past decade.
So when they go to you know when they find conservatives or they assert that conservatives are hypocrites, ignore them.
Ignore them.
We are in we have the House, the Senate, and the presidency, even if only slim margins, the government should be using every bit of legitimate power that it has to put the terrorist threat away.
Put these people in jail if they're making terroristic threats, if they're if they're if they're aiding terrorists, if they're engaging in violence against police, put them in jail for a long, long time.
Every legitimate use of power that the government can engage in, they should be.
morgan murphy
Phil, you're calling for justice.
phil labonte
I am absolutely contradiction.
seamus coughlin
You mentioned about hypocrisy.
I just want to point this out.
The people who level accusations of hypocrisy the most tend to be those who don't actually believe in anything.
So it's really easy for them to say you're not living up to their beliefs because like their beliefs are I should get to do whatever I want all the time.
It's like, well, you are very principled, I suppose.
shane cashman
Yeah, the morality's fixed to a weather van.
It's never one way, there's no center to it.
seamus coughlin
It's like it's it's it's easy to not be hypocritical when your perspective changes literally the second popular morality does.
shane cashman
Right.
phil labonte
Yeah.
So the I don't think that there is any any legitimate argument that the left can possibly make against this, seeing as they've not only used every bit of legitimate government power, but it seems if you go by what uh uh Chuck Rassley was saying, it seems that they've actually even gone and violated the law in in an effort to keep their own political power.
So I'm not worried about the things that the left accuses me of or anyone else on the right of.
Those days are gone.
morgan murphy
Yeah.
Now we're in a position like 2015.
They did accused us of being racist and fascists and authoritarian and everything else.
And eventually it's like the boy who cried wolf, right?
Just tired.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
And then they started mixing things up.
They're like, they're Russians.
We're like, what?
You ran out of everything else, and now we're Russians.
Like, come on, dude, go back to the lab and write better material.
phil labonte
It's ridiculous.
morgan murphy
Well, Putin book bootlicker.
seamus coughlin
Exactly.
Exactly.
jack posobiec
So speaking of this, all right, we've got it, we've got to get so we're talking about pop culture, we're talking about you know, all this guys.
Uh I I hate to have to do this, but we're doing it.
We gotta talk about bad bunny.
We gotta talk about bad bunny people.
shane cashman
Why are you doing this to us?
jack posobiec
Uh um because I have a contractual obligation to um make us suffer.
Yes, actually, Tim.
That was the one I knew it.
That was the one thing piece of advice that Tim said, Jack, just make sure you you had them all in pain as much as possible.
And so Bad Bunny, I guess, was on SNL, which is apparently some kind of television show.
Um this weekend.
And so Bad Bunny is this performer who is incredibly anti-ICE, he's been anti-US government.
He said that he will not perform in the United States while ICE is conducting operations.
However, he's been tapped to be the Super Bowl halftime show because Jay-Z runs the entire Super Bowl halftime show, an exclusive contract that he has with the NFL, which is a product of the 2020 uh situation because of the George Floyd situation, BLM riots.
They said, okay, we're gonna sign over all of this to Jay-Z, the best friend of Barack Obama and Michelle Obama and Beyonce, and he now has full reign over the over the Super Bowl halftime show.
I think until 2026 or maybe even 2029.
And so why are they putting someone like Bad Bunny in?
It's a corporate decision.
Now, Tim and I talked about this the other night, but it's because Bad Bunny is the top-streamed artist, but only among people who speak Spanish.
So he's a very niche artist when it comes to the widespread United States market, but of course, they're trying to put him in everything they can.
And how do I know this?
They made the same guy, the caddy in Happy Gilmore 2, was also played by Bad Bunny.
seamus coughlin
Really?
jack posobiec
The exact same guy.
And I remember watching the movie thinking.
seamus coughlin
This is a masterpiece here.
jack posobiec
You know what?
There are parts of it that actually made me laugh.
I'm not gonna lie, there were.
Um, but no, he was it was it was it was very schlocky.
But for some reason, they just randomly Netflix has this corporate insertion, and of course, we know that the Obamas are also very close with Netflix, uh, millions of dollars in that contract.
Suddenly Bad Bunny shows up and has this just tons of screen time alongside Adam Sandler when no one's you know heard of this guy if you speak English.
And this has really come down to be the great, you know, sort of discerning factor on Bad Bunny.
So he mentions this as well on uh on SNL.
And I'm gonna play the clip here for you.
unidentified
I'm very excited to be doing the Super Bowl, and I know that people all around the world who love my music are also happy, especially Latino.
phil labonte
Those people are just there.
unidentified
Y aquí and los Estados Unidos, todas las personas can trabajado para abrir puertas, mas con loro mio, uhro de todo, demonstrando que nuestra huella y nuestra policía, nadie nunca la podrá sacar ni borrar.
jack posobiec
Listen, listen.
unidentified
And if you didn't understand what I just said, you have four months to learn.
We have a great guy.
shane cashman
It'd be great if ICE came in and took him.
jack posobiec
Yeah, I know, right?
phil labonte
Well no, he's he's he's Puerto Rican, so he's American.
shane cashman
I don't care.
jack posobiec
But it's take him anyway.
Yeah, I know, right?
shane cashman
I'm extending the Spanish speaking.
jack posobiec
I want to just play another another quick clip here.
Whoopi Goldberg gets in on this as well.
unidentified
Oh a Taylor Swift or any other white person.
whoopi goldberg
Because she's going to go to the Super Bowl and round up.
How's she gonna know who's who?
seamus coughlin
What?
joy behar
Because the Supreme Court has given permission to question anyone who has a Spanish accent or has a dark skin.
unidentified
Yeah.
So here's why here's the thing.
Everybody get a little cogna, sit in the sun.
whoopi goldberg
That's the first thing.
And then, and this is the only time you can probably ever do this.
Give yourself a Latin accent.
unidentified
You know, Whoopi, that is such a great cultural appropriation and seeing I love it.
jack posobiec
If she can tell who's who Whoopi Goldberg is saying that everyone should, all the white people should go to the Super Bowl in brown face with a Latin Latin accent to mess with ice.
shane cashman
Okay.
jack posobiec
All right.
Let me let me point out what they're both doing here.
They're being as divisive as possible on purpose.
They're setting us up to, and this is what Pete Heggseth was talking about.
I was there for a speech yesterday.
He said diversity isn't our strength, unity is.
phil labonte
Yeah.
jack posobiec
I think that's so important.
Because they're actively telling you, okay, if you speak English, if your skin is too pale, then there's something wrong with you.
You need to change.
You American who's been speaking English since America was founded since 1776.
There's something wrong with you.
And we are correct.
We are ascendant.
We are the ones who have the cultural identity, the cultural power, the cultural imperialism.
So we are going to re reverse cultural imperialize you.
That's what they're doing with the Super Bowl.
And this this comes on the heels of, of course, what we already have the black national anthem, right?
That that is played, and we'll see if it's played at this Super Bowl.
I believe it was played for the last couple of years now.
And when you you have these things, you know, and that go on at a massive cultural touchstone moment, like the Super Bowl, which is supposed to bring us all together, right?
You know, you could root for different teams, but we're all together in the sense that we're all American.
Uh Coach Taboo, of course, knows uh knows a little something about about comp competition and playing together, but also you maintain that we're all the same under the red, white, and blue, the stars and stripes.
It is crap like this that they are trying to pit us all against each other.
And you know, these these guys talk about civil war, and it's like they keep throwing fuel on the fire.
Turn down the rhetoric, and then you get stuff like this.
phil labonte
Yeah, look, it's just racism, first off, right?
That's all that it is.
I don't get into the into this conversation a whole lot because I don't like to to sound like I'm I'm uh trying to make make myself or or people like me a victim.
But the point of this is just anti-white and anti-American, honestly.
Marxism yeah, it is, it is, but that but Marxism, this is the tool that they're using at this at this time, because you know, um Mark Hughes said in One Dimensional Man, he said that the the revolutionary energy is no longer with the working classes because capitalism delivers the goods, right?
He said that that capitalism can provide not just the things that you need, but it provides a good life.
So we have to look elsewhere for the revolutionary and energy.
And he said that you know, you have to look to he said you have to look to the to basically to the minority populations to black Latinos, you know, black and brown people, as the as the left would say today.
And so what this is actually fomenting is a way to induce a revolution.
You know, it is you're right, it is Marxism.
And the point is to separate us.
It's the point is to awaken a critical racial consciousness.
Now, everyone talked about the the the idea of critical race theory.
The point of critical race theory is to awaken a critical racial consciousness, right?
So get away from the idea of a melting pot and that we're all Americans.
morgan murphy
Like it's a salad bowl.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
So you want to see the the things that make us different, right?
That's what the left wants to do.
jack posobiec
And then by the way, you know what they'll say next?
They will say, oh, well, every other performer, you know, I don't know if Shakira or whatever, you know, we've had English Super Bowl halftime shows this many times.
So how many, and then they start counting it.
Yeah, right.
Then they start counting it and quantifying it and see, say, see, you guys have had this many.
We just want one.
We just want one.
Well, but you don't get any what they're actually doing.
phil labonte
You you don't get any because this is America.
Most Americans speak English.
The United States should actually Congress should pass a law that says that in the United States, English is our national language, and then the United States should stop making any kind of paperwork, anything in any other language.
No more going to the DMV and deciding whether you want Spanish or Chinese or or what uh what have you language?
You go to the United States, if you go to an official government uh bureaucracy, everything's in English.
jack posobiec
I can think of another person.
morgan murphy
I'll sponsor that bill.
jack posobiec
I can't believe it.
I would have another place where not just the DMV where we need only English everywhere.
unidentified
A very special place that we go every four years.
phil labonte
Yeah, to the ballot box.
jack posobiec
Sometimes every two years, right?
The ballot box.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
jack posobiec
If you can't speak English or read in English, why are you voting?
phil labonte
And this shouldn't be, and uh the reason that it that we should do this is because context matters when you're trying to communicate.
And if you don't speak the same language, you actually have a more difficult time understanding each other.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh, I know.
phil labonte
So it's perfectly fine for other people for people to speak other languages at home if they want.
But when it comes to engaging in the United States, engaging with the public in the United States, there should only be one ang one language spoken.
And it should be it should be it should be government mandated.
jack posobiec
Could you imagine this happening in like Japan?
unidentified
Yeah.
seamus coughlin
Well, they're trying.
Oh my gosh, they're so mad that Japan is for the Japanese.
Yeah, that infuriates them.
They're like, why do they get an island?
phil labonte
They just elected what the most right wing uh prime minister they've had in ages.
They she doesn't believe that the the emperor should be a female.
She she's very much uh in line with with uh what Shinzo Abe was like based.
Um and I think it's a great thing.
She believes that Japan should be for the Japanese, and I I would I think that the world would lose a massive uh a treasure if Japan stopped being Japan.
jack posobiec
Like I want you to say and why is it that we can say that for Japan, but you can't say that for the United States.
phil labonte
Because the US is is a a place where people have come from Europe.
There are there are countries that really whether or not, and again, whether or not you agree about what the US should be.
The US didn't the people that are from that were like uh the original, I guess, people that lived that lived here, the they were this place was colonized.
morgan murphy
Settlers, the pioneers, settlers and the settler spirit, the US is a belief system, it's perfectly unites us as a belief system, not a race, not a religion.
That's what sets us apart.
Yeah, we could live in Japan all our lives and never be Japanese.
Exactly, right?
jack posobiec
I speak Chinese I speak Chinese, I spent two years there.
Guess what?
I ain't Chinese, and Gombies right now.
seamus coughlin
There are people who spend way, way more than two years in the United States and don't learn to speak English.
unidentified
Exactly.
jack posobiec
By the way, I've got to be able to do that.
By the way, have you seen I've yet to see one?
And I keep saying this, when you know, an ice video that's come out of one of these raids where the guy is speaking and a lot goes up and covers these.
Show me one where the guy is speaking English.
Show me one.
And they're always like, Oh, he's been here 20 years, he hasn't broken any laws.
Let him say, and they also they're they're not speaking English.
They're actually not trying you mentioned the salad bowl, right?
It's it's they don't want to assimilate.
They're they're not trying to be the melting pot.
Whereas like when my family came over from Poland, the very first generation, they said, Don't speak Polish.
You're gonna learn English.
And you you hear that with um with so many immigrant groups, and let's say, did you ever speak Polish?
No, my my grandparents never taught me Polish.
Why?
Because my mom and dad would say, You're gonna speak English, and we want you to assimilate people.
You have people, of course, a history of people changing names, a history of people, you know, anglicizing things that were coming from different parts of the of uh of the world.
Why?
unidentified
Because they want you to assimilate the program a month ago, by the way.
morgan murphy
Based place, man.
It was a they have they have kept.
jack posobiec
Were you at the inauguration?
morgan murphy
No, I was going through, passing through on the way to Ukraine.
jack posobiec
Okay, no, I was all right, sure, sure, sure.
Don't in Jezov.
So I was I was there for the inauguration, and then I went uh over through Ukraine with uh Secretary Besson on that trip.
morgan murphy
Yeah.
That was was that the trip where they were on the train.
jack posobiec
Oh, I was on the train the whole time.
morgan murphy
I'm thinking the wheels were gonna fall off of that thing.
It's like a Soviet-era train.
jack posobiec
It's like a chicken train.
morgan murphy
And I have never I mean it was 12 hours too from each way.
Yeah, each way.
Oh, and I I can sleep through a lot, but that that train, I I really did think we were gonna leave the track several times.
jack posobiec
I remember sitting and then and then you're in there's that presidential car at the rear, and uh we were in there, and and we go to see the secretary, and I'm with the Secretary of Treasury, and uh we're trying to get the mineral deal.
This is this is back when the mineral deal was in March.
And you know, that was the the uh February, actually.
Yeah.
And and so I remember they and they said, Oh, this is the same car that uh the Joe Biden had when going over.
morgan murphy
And I said you sanitize it.
jack posobiec
And I said, I said well, no, I said, and then it's Jake Sullivan was here.
I said, Really?
Jake Sulva seriously, yeah.
What seat did he sit on?
They said, I think Jake was in that CSR.
I'm gonna sit over here.
unidentified
Good.
That was good.
jack posobiec
I don't said, all right, guys.
Uh look, we don't want to divide the country.
We want the country to unite.
Ban Bunny is being deliberately divisive.
He's being a overtly so.
That's what Jay-Z is about.
That's what Barack Obama has been about since the very first day that he began.
Shane, do you have to run or are you good?
shane cashman
I'm about to run.
I just want to say I'm calling on Jay-Z to have Gwar play.
jack posobiec
Oh gosh.
shane cashman
Halftime show.
unidentified
No.
shane cashman
I think it'll be great.
jack posobiec
You're like, no, forget offending half the country.
Offend all right.
shane cashman
Exactly.
It'll be fun.
Yeah, I'm gonna run and get ready for my show.
Uh we'll be live at 10 o'clock on Rumble on YouTube, Inverta World Live.
Hopefully, Joe Exotic calls in.
We'll see what prison allows.
Uh, he he confirmed yesterday, but we'll see.
jack posobiec
The Tiger King himself.
shane cashman
That's right.
jack posobiec
Well, guys, while we're here, I want to get to some of these great super chats.
seamus coughlin
Love you, dude.
jack posobiec
Because we have some really really good ones.
There were a few that I wanted to get to early on because they were two in specific that right here.
We go.
All right.
And Morgan, you may not know this uh as your your first time guest, but there is a tradition on Timcast IRL that we are going to uphold right now.
morgan murphy
I'm ready.
jack posobiec
This one comes in.
As is tradition, please welcome our daughter, Lila Michelle, born Saturday at 4.05 p.m. headed to the NICU soon.
So hope everything's okay there.
Wish us well and pray for our family.
So we are that's from Mike.
Uh, we are playing praying for you and Lila and the whole family.
We hope everything goes well.
Hopefully, the NICU is just a uh, you know, routine thing.
You won't spend much time there.
Get her home very, very soon.
phil labonte
Have more too.
jack posobiec
And have more.
And by the way, we have another one in the same vein.
Uh, and Morgan, you're gonna love this because this is from Tyler.
He says, I'm messaging as I wait for the birth of my baby.
phil labonte
Wonderful.
jack posobiec
Pray for baby Titus Gray, as I wish to bring him up in the nurture and add admonition of the Lord.
Thank you, Mr. Murphy, for your service to our state.
It must be uh LAM in there.
morgan murphy
Congrats.
phil labonte
That is awesome.
Wonderful thing to hear.
morgan murphy
Yeah.
jack posobiec
Uh, this is this is great.
morgan murphy
Uh and admonition of the Lord.
That's a lovely phrase.
jack posobiec
And so, so we've got it in uh, let's see, let's see.
Seamus, since I stu this is from Raymond G. Stanley.
Hey, Seamus, since I started working here, part of my job has been to put things where they belong.
We had to buy a full set of spoons, only spoons.
Why?
seamus coughlin
I don't know.
That's crazy.
Maybe I can explore a concept like that on the new show I'm launching, Twisted Plots.
It's gonna be a fun animated anthology series.
We're almost to 10% of our budget raised.
If you guys want to go over to Twisted Plots.com and watch our 25 minute pilot.
phil labonte
Awesome.
jack posobiec
Seamus, why are there so many spoon comments about you?
seamus coughlin
I don't know why people say these kinds of things.
If I had a dollar for every spoon comment, Twisted Plots would be funded by this point.
morgan murphy
You know, for each country you visit or city.
seamus coughlin
So no, basically, there was there was an ugly bit of uh referring to the information.
jack posobiec
They're referring to you as Spoon Man.
seamus coughlin
There there was an ugly bit of uh yellow journalism from one Tim Poole who lobbed a false accusation uh at me, and I won't even get into the xenophobic undertones, but uh he claimed that there was a person of Irish descent under his house who would steal spoons.
morgan murphy
Fuck Raking journalism.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, which which I personally found very offensive.
jack posobiec
All right, right.
I mean there's there's so many I can't all right.
Aren't you the guy who has a horde of silver spoons under your house?
seamus coughlin
Some of us weren't born with one in our mouth.
We had to go get them.
Not that I did.
I would never do that.
phil labonte
Welcome back.
seamus coughlin
I would never do something.
phil labonte
Welcome back.
jack posobiec
Amazing, amazing.
This one, oh here you go.
Brother, I'm from Idaho.
I know a potato when I see one.
And then there's just a series of spoon emojis.
seamus coughlin
I come on this show and everyone just bullies me.
phil labonte
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
seamus coughlin
I come here and everyone bullies me.
Guys, I'm trying to get this show funded to build culture.
Please be nice to me and go to TwistedPlots.com.
Please donate.
We're gonna make something awesome.
jack posobiec
Um we've got one from uh Bernie Kadzori.
And a lot of these are just comments, but I like this one.
It says we need a three-hour episode of pop culture crisis on the weather underground.
There's a few channels who have covered them.
More recent Okies weird stories.
Um, people are mentioning different books on the weather underground.
But again, Seamus, there is yet to be any, you know, actual like like scripted media content on weather depicting the weather underground.
seamus coughlin
I I know I've been a little bit tongue-in-cheek, but the reality is part of why I'm trying to step into longer form content is because the goal is eventually to start making films.
We want to make TV shows, films.
One problem is these conservative startups, they bite off more than they can chew.
They go, We're gonna make they have no experience in film or television.
They go, We're gonna make 20 movies and 80 shows and all this.
It's like we just want to make this one show, and then that's gonna be our starting point to grow and tell more stories and shine light on these kinds of issues.
If you believe in that vision, thank you.
If you if you believe in that vision, go to twistedplots.com.
We're almost at 10% of our budget.
Let's get there tonight.
jack posobiec
Let's see.
No, please go and support that because that's key.
Uh this this is a great comment that's in this thank you to Tim, but this is for, and I'm I I am apologize in advance for not knowing the right way to pronounce your name.
Um, I get that a lot myself.
Uh Pasobic Pasobic Pasobic, but we'll see.
Uh this is from Ryan uh Amaker, and he's saying, Thank you, Tim, for showing my clip of a guy spitting on ice.
So he's been out there uh covering he's one of these field journalists, citizen journalists who's been really been doing a great job of covering these uh these these events, this violence.
Go follow him.
I'll spell out the name R-H-E-I-N A M A C H E R. And I've been sharing his stuff as well.
It's really, really good.
seamus coughlin
Can I just say yeah, one of the chat said Sheamus looks like bad bunny, which I don't I have no idea of where the resemblance is, but an image.
jack posobiec
Put on put on the sunglasses, we'll see.
seamus coughlin
Start speaking Spanish.
jack posobiec
Someone said I thought Bad Bunny was the girl from Dr. Phil.
morgan murphy
You need a better track suit.
seamus coughlin
That's true.
I should get a track suit.
What would you guys do if I just started down to your navel?
jack posobiec
All right, we just got another one.
We just got another one.
This is from Savannah.
The her name is Savannah.
Uh, didn't get to chat it well in the hospital, but we just had our fifth baby.
phil labonte
Oh god, yeah.
seamus coughlin
God bless you.
jack posobiec
Five Patriots.
The Patriot population must be increased.
This is a numbers game.
The Muslims understand this.
We need to understand this as well.
seamus coughlin
Amen.
jack posobiec
Uh, so let's see, let's see.
What is this from Mike G watched Phil's Nigeria episode seeing these communist anti-Christian attacks around the world and here in the US?
Time for the Pope to appoint a holy Roman Emperor and bless a new crusade.
Wow.
morgan murphy
Hot take.
jack posobiec
What was your Nigeria episode?
phil labonte
Uh so the uh on the culture war this past Friday.
Um, we had a couple guys that have um some info inside information about the uh the the killing of Christians in Nigeria.
jack posobiec
Oh, so the recent okay, yeah.
phil labonte
So um apparently in the past 20 years, something like 300,000 Christians have been killed.
jack posobiec
That's right.
phil labonte
Um to his credit brought this up.
unidentified
Yeah.
jack posobiec
You sure did?
phil labonte
Yeah.
So and and you know, so we spent two hours talking about that, and and they have uh they have some ideas as to what the United States can do.
Um they were basically looking to get the uh Secretary of State um to name Nigeria a I forget what the what the specific phrase was, but basically to get some attention from the uh from the State Department and possibly get the president to make some remarks or or start looking into this.
They believe that if if the US pays a little more attention that the government of Nigeria uh will react respond and actually this genocide against Christians, basically the the the uh the president and basically the presidents of Nigeria and the president's whole cabinet,
um, they're Muslims, and so they kind of turned to turn a blind eye because there's a lot of tribalism and and such in Nigeria, and the the Muslims are in the north and the Christians are in the south, and that's where the there's oil there that's off the offshore.
If you look at the the map of Nigeria, the north of Nigeria is a lot of desert and grasslands, whereas the south is more it gets more rain, and and that's where the the resources are, and so the Muslims are pushing further, further south to to go after resources and stuff.
And you know, it's it's really just a bad situation for for all the Christians involved.
So we we had a discussion about it and and wanted to shut shed some light on the situation.
jack posobiec
That's great.
And I'm I'm reading the chats.
A lot of people said it was uh it was disturbing episode, but it was a it was a good episode.
Um a lot of people saying that you know, how do you not call that a Christian genocide?
I mean, it just by it by every any definition.
Absolutely.
Actually, and you know, by the way, Seamus, we are getting another another question here that says, Seamus, where is Twisted Plots at?
I want to donate to my fellow plastic potato.
seamus coughlin
Oh, thank you.
So you can literally just go to twisted plots.com.
It'll take you to our give send go page.
Uh we have our our pitch video there, which explains what the show is, how we're budgeting it, where the money's going, so that you know we're being good stewards over these resources and we're making something good with it.
I'm really transparent through this whole thing about exactly what our goal is.
So go over to twistedplots.com.
And if you donate within the first 24 hours of the campaign, you will get to see our pilot episode.
It's a 25-minute pilot.
We're not going to release it for a little while here.
And you will be able to see it if you donate.
Um after 24 hours is up, only people donating who donate more than $25 will get to see it.
But right now, anyone donating any amount will get to see our pilot.
morgan murphy
We need to take some tips from you on how to raise cash for a campaign.
jack posobiec
That's not bad.
That's not bad.
morgan murphy
Donate now, you can get in the captain's table of my campaign, Captain Morgan's table, and we'll send you a free bill about making English the official language.
seamus coughlin
Oh I like that too.
That's I like that too.
That I could fundraise for, I think.
jack posobiec
Well, we we should we we should shout that out.
We got a couple of minutes left.
But um, tell us again about the the where people can go to check out more about the campaign.
Tell us, tell us also, you know, why was it that you decided, you know, at this point in your life with everything that's going on, especially in the wake of all this political violence that we have seen that you've decided to sort of step forward and say, I want, you know, here I am, Lord.
I'm gonna go for it.
Here I am, send me.
You know, why why do it now?
morgan murphy
I started it in prayer.
Um, prayed a lot about it, and I I wasn't gonna talk about my faith, actually, on the campaign trail, because as you know, as a uh Protestant Christian, we always I you know quoted Jesus a lot.
Um, let them see your faith by your works and not your words.
And so I I told uh a lot of those closest to me that I didn't really want to talk about my faith a lot on the campaign trail.
And after Charlie, I realized how wrong that was.
Uh, and I needed to speak about it more openly and more forthrightly, and that's a gift that uh that he gave to me.
Um but I chose to run because I I really believe that we need to keep the MAGA movement going.
Um January 21st, 2029.
Washington is gonna want to snap back to the way things have always been done.
Yeah, and we cannot let that happen.
There are a lot of people now who claim to love President Trump uh because he's winning.
Uh we have all three branches of government, we've got both houses of Congress, we're firmly in control of the executive branch, majority on the Supreme Court.
But back in 2021, it was a really unpopular time.
you were there.
unidentified
Well, I remember.
morgan murphy
Really unpopular time to be a Republican.
And especially an unpopular time to be a MAGA Republican.
It was incredibly lonely.
And uh Tommy Tupperville is one of the strongest MAGA voices in the entirety of Congress.
Certainly the strongest MAGA voice in the Senate, and we can't afford to lose that.
For some reason, a lot of deeply red states send what I call squish representatives to Congress.
I don't know why this is deep blue states, don't deep blue states send Elizabeth Warren, they send they send Bernie Sanders.
jack posobiec
But the It's like me like Susan Collins, I can understand Susan Collins from Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
She has a border state.
jack posobiec
Right, right, right.
She's she's remaining right.
It's it's it's it's blue, you know, and she can get elected because of a certain confluence of issues up there.
Fine.
Alabama, Alabama.
morgan murphy
Come on, man.
Yeah, like let's send let's send a full throated MAGA conservative to the U.S. Senate.
That's why I'm running because we just can't afford to let that go.
We cannot let Tommy Taverval's gonna be an awesome governor for the state.
We need him in the state of Alabama.
I actually begged him not to leave the Senate because his voice is so strong there.
So I didn't want to run.
I felt called to run.
jack posobiec
I like that.
And tell people the website again.
morgan murphy
The website, thank you for that.
jack posobiec
See, Seamus, you gotta help me also.
unidentified
I haven't run for dog catcher, so maybe I should actually consult him.
jack posobiec
I actually kind of like that he doesn't even know to oh, yeah, hit the fundraising.
unidentified
I gotta hit the fundraiser.
jack posobiec
That's actually you don't want the guy quality.
You don't want the guy that turns every answer into a fundraiser.
morgan murphy
I apologize to my whole campaign staff.
jack posobiec
Yeah, the the your finance directors losing home.
morgan murphy
Um my website is Murphy for Senate.com.
jack posobiec
Murphy for Senate.com.
Very, very simple.
morgan murphy
You can't miss it.
Go see my battleship video.
jack posobiec
Okay.
morgan murphy
My launch video was shot in front of the USS Alabama.
I believe, Jack, we need to bring back the battleship.
Not the old ones.
We need to make new battleships now that can withstand drones that can pack it full of uh awesome technology.
Tommy Tavill, a lot of people don't know this, but he's the head of sea power, and we need we need a head of sea power who loves the Navy.
jack posobiec
Look, we we had a great, great day with the Navy yesterday.
Fine Navy Day, as they say.
morgan murphy
Fine Navy Day.
And uh usually is a terrible day when it's a fine Navy.
jack posobiec
Yeah, when you say fine Navy Day, that's not that doesn't even mean it's how is it it's it's 30 below and it's sleeting uh well and and I mean it's a fine Navy Day to be there aboard the bush, and I hear I hear the piping and they say and they and they get they say President United States of America arriving.
unidentified
Well, actually he would already arrived at this point.
jack posobiec
So I I heard the pipe and I said, What's what's going on?
And because of the flight deck when he arrived, he was getting on the one MC.
Oh he gets on the one MC.
That's the internal uh mic, you know, microphone and PA.
It's the PA system, right?
For the whole, and this wasn't for the cameras, this wasn't televised.
He just talked to the whole crew and he told them how to great they were.
I mean, it's a city at sea, and talked to them about how great they were, how much he loved being there, how much he loved the navy, how much he supported them.
Uh by the way, the first lady had a great time yesterday.
She loved it.
If you see the videos, yeah, if you see some of the videos, when she gets up there and she goes, Hooya Navy.
She's like, she's giddy.
She's I've you and you you see the first lady, you know, and she's she's you she's known for her poise and her glamour, and you know, she's you know, you know, Versace and Gucci and all this, but I saw a side of First Lady Melania Trump that I'm not used to seeing.
Gucci went overboard, you know, Gucci overboard, and she's just loving it.
She's and she spent the entire time on the flight.
unidentified
They were there about an hour and a half on the flight deck, which is landing those F 35s, like you know, uh I've done I've done that.
morgan murphy
Um like you know, 30 feet away from you.
jack posobiec
They're they're right there, and they they had the the FA18 did the sonic boom just right off the bow.
unidentified
No better pilot.
jack posobiec
No, right off the port side uh from them and didn't flinch, didn't flinch at all.
It was amazing to see, it was amazing to be.
morgan murphy
No, we've got to have a strong navy, and that's one of my core platform pieces.
Is you know, Congress has mandated a 350 ship navy, and we're at 285.
jack posobiec
We're not right, we're close.
morgan murphy
We're nowhere near that.
We haven't been that I mean, we're just openly admitting we we do not have the adequate number of ships we need to deter aggression.
jack posobiec
Which by the way, Spurs shipbuilding, which Spurs uh which Burr's jobs, which was domestic manufacturing.
morgan murphy
Last year China built 900 ships, including commercial ships.
We built seven.
phil labonte
It's worth noting that all of China any ship built in China has to be built to standards that the military could you know take.
morgan murphy
Well down there double hold, yeah, right.
And so ships are much harder to sink.
We we just don't have the firepower right now.
Our Navy is dispersed around the world, and we have the finest Navy in the world, but it there's just not enough of them.
We need to double the fleet, and I'm that's what I'm running on is double the size of the fleet.
jack posobiec
Talking almost Reagan numbers.
morgan murphy
Yeah, we don't definitely Reagan numbers.
We have to have it.
Merchant Marine, we've got to modernize.
And if we don't do that, we're gonna we're a maritime nation.
At its core, the United States is a maritime nation.
And so we've got to have a lot of people.
jack posobiec
No, we could I I could have uh I could I could go two hours with you importance of that.
Let's do it.
But also, but I I do also like how President Trump has reiterated as well the concept of hemispheric defense.
unidentified
That's right.
jack posobiec
And that if that we shouldn't have any business going all around the world, yes, of course, the shipping lanes and and South China Sea and all the rest of it and and the Red Sea and make the Monroe Doctrine great again.
Yeah, we we we we know the we know all the all the uh all the slocks, right?
You know, but at the same time, if we've let the homeland, we've let our hemisphere, if we let the Gulf of America be completely subservient to other countries, then no, no, we absolutely can't have that.
We have to Focus on our home first.
And by the way, you think you think the Russians would do that?
You think the Chinese look at the Russians do with the Black Sea.
Look what the Chinese do with the South China Sea.
We are the only ones who are so stupid is that we don't actually project our power into our own neighborhood.
morgan murphy
Well, you raised your hand and I raised my hand to protect this country and the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
morgan murphy
We were fighting we were fighting a lot of foreign enemies.
We let a lot of domestic enemies here grab the reins.
jack posobiec
Speaking of domestic enemies, Philipponte.
phil labonte
I don't know what you're talking about there, Jack.
seamus coughlin
Bad man, Phil.
jack posobiec
I did call you a communist last time I was on.
phil labonte
Yeah, I know, but you're a ridiculous man.
unidentified
So it's okay.
jack posobiec
That's okay.
I just love our flag.
unidentified
Um are we doing the uh I totally would, but we're out of time.
phil labonte
Okay.
Well, uh, you know, if you are if you are looking to follow me on X, I am Phil That Remains.
The band is all that remains, and you can uh check the band out on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Deezer.
Uh we are going on tour next year.
We've got uh we just announced a show with at uh welcome to Rockville down in Daytona, Florida.
Um there will be more shows that will be announced as they become uh you know, as we as we are able to announce them.
We'll be out for about three weeks, so keep an eye out all that remains on the road in your town in uh probably in May.
So it's huge.
jack posobiec
Yeah, it's gonna be it.
phil labonte
It'll be a good it'll be a good time to get out there on the road.
I'll it'll be the first time that I'm gonna be on tour, also having a newborn, well, uh a Todd maybe uh baby at the at the same time.
unidentified
So we'll go like you'll be like, see you later.
phil labonte
That's what I'm having to work for the book.
jack posobiec
That reminds me of the middle of this book.
phil labonte
Don't forget the left land is for crime.
jack posobiec
There's no no announcements, but um, you know, people keep asking me.
I had this I had this tweet that went pretty viral, uh, that I definitely did not have turning point approval for about should turning point hold a alternative halftime show to Bad Bunny and what if we got Creed to perform.
shane cashman
Oh my god.
jack posobiec
Now now you uh Phil, what you just mentioned uh remind me, so Altar Bridge has a tour in Europe.
Now this is the the side project of the other Creed members.
phil labonte
It's Cree, yeah, it's Creed, just it has uh it doesn't have um that stap.
jack posobiec
So they will be on tour.
However, Scott Stapp is not part of Altar Bridge, so he will not be in Europe during the Super Bowl.
All I'm saying is all I'm saying is no announcements, I'm not here to announce anything.
We've got a lot of attention about it.
We've got a lot of interest in it, the media's been blowing us all up.
Um and other artists and and and and types have uh, you know, we we've gotten a lot of inquiries and a lot of communication, and all I will say is no announcements but conversations.
phil labonte
We're at the conversation we did a tour with uh Alder Bridge in 2007.
Going into 18.
Again, super super pro, incredibly uh accommodating for us.
It was it was a great time.
And uh so it would be really cool to see uh see Alter Bridge playing a show uh, you know, at the at the Super Bowl halftime as opposed to I can't get Alter Bridge though, because they're the Altar Bridges in the U.S. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
jack posobiec
We'd have to get Scott without them and maybe we can like virtually like you know, sink it up or something.
I don't know if they have the technology for that, but we do have the technology for the members only hour, which is going to be starting soon, where we're also going to be talking about more libs and specifically hick lib music.
So make sure you follow, make sure you check that out.
You want to follow me at Jack Pasobic.
I'm the host of Human Events Daily.
You can check that out at Humanevents.com.
Ladies and gentlemen, as always, you have my permission to lay ashore.
unidentified
Thank you.
All right.
phil labonte
So everybody else is off.
So I'm just gonna start the show here.
Um apparently, what's his name?
Zach Brown?
Zach Bryan.
Yeah, he's got a cringe new song, and he is taking the side of the leftists.
He's complaining about ice.
Uh rumor has it that he had a uh a Latina girlfriend, a big booty Latina girlfriend that was deported.
Um Alex Stein would not approve.
I approve.
I don't approve of Zach Bryan's new song.
But uh I are we gonna play a little bit of it?
Is that is it something?
Yeah, go ahead and and play a little bit of this uh okay this abortion.
So that way you guys can all see how how terrible it is.
I'll even put my ears on to listen to it.
unidentified
Didn't we come data in jail some out of town boys been giving a sale?
I got some business.
phil labonte
Out of town boys, I saw.
Oh yeah.
His girlfriend.
unidentified
They're all I got the generation story of dropping the plot.
I heard the cops came.
Cocky motherfuckers, ain't they?
And I'm gonna come to Stan Trick.
phil labonte
Yeah, he's he's just like, oh, I'm gonna take.
Yeah, we're gone.
unidentified
Kids are.
phil labonte
He's just like, oh, I'm gonna take uh the side of the uh the people that are not Americans.
unidentified
Like we're in the middle, things are rising and it won't stop showing.
Who's that guy who did the Richmond of Richmond Richmond?
phil labonte
Yeah.
jack posobiec
That one hit wonder, Oliver Anthony.
unidentified
Yeah.
jack posobiec
Yeah, who like totally he started like crapping all over MAGA like right after he got popular.
seamus coughlin
Did he actually remember that?
I just remember that he sold a bunch of tickets.
And then he was like, these were too expensive for people.
jack posobiec
And then we've got to tell his show or something.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, he he was making a stink about the price of tickets.
But the thing is, I think that that was uh because of his his inexperience with the industry and stuff, he didn't realize uh, you know, the way that that you know, ticket master and and the fees and and et cetera go.
If you want to keep your tickets below 40 bucks, that's perfectly admirable, but that means that you have to keep your actual ticket price for the room probably around 20.
So the advertised price is 20 dollars.
And then now granted he was probably gonna sell out every place that he went to, but there, you know, look, there's there's math involved in these logistics.
jack posobiec
How much of the math of the venue if the venue costs this much to rent, if there's staff, if there's if it's you're playing in a union town, and you need to get union, like that that all comes down at ticket price.
phil labonte
Yeah, absolutely.
So it it now, now obviously.
jack posobiec
Yeah, no, obviously, people don't love the ticket master of the hidden fee stuff, but again, that's that's just how the system works.
phil labonte
Yeah, and and and artists should understand their their fan base.
And granted, again, he he blew up from one song, so it's not like he had some kind of you know, deep knowledge about the industry and stuff like that.
But you know, the way that that we price our tickets, the way that all the remains prizes are tickets, we take into account how big is the room and and how many people can the venue hold and and how many people are gonna be on our crew for this tour, and how much is the bus gonna be, and and look, you know, it it it's all a math problem.
That's right.
jack posobiec
No, and then this this is something, so you know, obviously when we do turning point events, you know, and we have ticketed events, people say, you know, the in and certain things people say, why is the you know, why is the adult price so much more than the student price?
And one of the main reasons is because guess what?
You're subsidizing the students.
Yeah because we uh we actually don't put that like in our pockets or something.
What we're actually doing is subsidizing the ticket and in some cases the accommodations and even the airfare uh at times of student groups so that they can come and they can actually partake in these events and open it up to people who perhaps wouldn't be able to if they were just paying the same, you know, full freight adult price.
And that's one of the things that Charlie was always adamant about.
And of course there's other you know donors that go into it as well, but this is this is part of the way that Turning Point was set up, that it's meant to be it was always meant to be, you know, you know, meant to be something for the kids so that they could come in, not just the college level, but even the high school level now, click home Club America's And um,
you know, it's just it goes to that, you know, what you're saying about the ticket prices, because right now we're dealing with that with the um America Fest event, which is gonna be happening in December, where we know we're we we have uh way more tickets than we have capacity for at this point um in the wake of everything that happened.
And so, you know, we're looking at options to to pack as many as many possible seats in as we can.
It's just the physical it's it's just physics actually that we're up against at this point.
Yep.
And um, you know, we could we we've talked about moving to other venues in the city of Phoenix.
We do the usually do the convention center, but it's it's just hard to hold a conference at not at a convention center.
It doesn't really lend itself to a stadium, it doesn't really lend itself to a hotel.
You really need a convention center with those big halls.
So, you know, we'll see.
But all right, since we're all back, I wanna I want to play this song because we we have to dig into this.
Uh I I want to get uh and we can talk about it from the cultural side, but Phil, I want I want you to come in on it from the musical side as well.
phil labonte
Sure.
jack posobiec
Zack Bryan is an anti-ice song.
unidentified
I'm dead or in jail, some out of town boy's been giving a sale, I got some bad news.
Welcome mission you friends are all the generates, they're all I got the generational story of dropping the plot.
I heard the cops came.
Cocky motherfuckers, ain't they?
Whoa, edgy, edgy, and Alice is gonna come both standing indoors.
Let's try to build a house, no home bills no more, but I got a telephone.
Kids were all skating all along.
The boss stop bumping the rock, stop rolling the middle things rising, and I won't stop showing us some bad news.
The fate another radio I'm yeah.
jack posobiec
All right, Phil.
I mean, to me, that didn't sound very different from something you might heard here from like Suno.
Um but but you know, get wal what cost I mean, what what was the musical uh quality of that?
phil labonte
I mean, look, it it's it's it's perfectly acceptable for a you know a modern country song.
Um there's a little hook, yeah.
jack posobiec
Um got some bad news.
phil labonte
His performance, his performance in in it was you know, it's fine.
Um, you know, he can he can sing, everyone knows that he can sing.
Um but you know, like I mean, I think that the lyrical content does matter.
Um, and I think that you know, it's a little tone-deaf for for the type of uh fans that you generally see in country music now.
I I think that maybe he's looking to to appeal to a young audience.
jack posobiec
You can pick up the bad bunny uh, you know, the bad bunny cohort here.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, none of the fans he's trying to gain can understand him.
jack posobiec
There's a this i ice is kind of come knock your door.
It's it's you're right, Phil.
It's it's it's not only is it tone deaf, it I think it's audience deaf, right?
Who in his audience has to worry about this?
seamus coughlin
I re I'm scolding.
He's scolding people, he's scolding his audience.
It's moral grandstanding.
jack posobiec
Exactly what it is.
It's and it's it's it's moral blackmail, too.
seamus coughlin
That's right.
jack posobiec
It's it's yeah, and by the way, he do you hear that line that he said?
Took me a second to understand this.
Why is he talking about you try to build a house, they don't build no more.
Oh, he's saying the illegals are just trying to build houses.
They're just here for construction.
That's that's all it is.
You know, they're just they're just trying to help out, trying to participate.
I mean, it it's it's so infantile to describe this as such a situation.
I mean, we just were talking about a story where the Latin Kings were putting out an assassination hit on a border patrol agent or C BP agent, uh, which border patrol, um, up in Chicago.
And but Zach Bryan is thinking, no, no, it's it's you know, they're just going after the the where is it?
The the house builders.
morgan murphy
Right.
The guys that pick the crops, the guys that build your houses.
I hear this all the time.
Same refrain.
No idea who's in this country.
Because Biden let in 20 million people.
We have no idea who they are.
jack posobiec
The kids are all scared and all alone.
So he's the family separation.
If you go through each uh lyric of this, it's just some other toxic empathy.
You know, lib false stories.
unidentified
So that's we've OD'd on empathy in this country.
morgan murphy
When there's absolute mercy for everyone, there's no justice.
jack posobiec
No.
morgan murphy
Justice and mercy are two sides of the same coin.
jack posobiec
The middle fingers rising and it won't stop showing.
Well, and also some bad news, the fading of the red, white, and blue.
I actually I will say that that I thought that last lyric was just dumb.
seamus coughlin
Yeah.
jack posobiec
Well, also it felt kind of like it's very clumsy, you're right.
Because it's not a perfect rhyme.
You're like, I'm gonna read rhyme news with blue.
morgan murphy
It won't stop.
jack posobiec
Like, wouldn't wouldn't it have been smarter to say I got the red, white, and blues?
Something something, I don't know.
seamus coughlin
The line about the middle finger sounded clumsy to me.
It sounded like he was stumbling over his words or something.
It didn't uh come out quite right.
phil labonte
So it's just uh I think that he's like I said, I think he's trying to go for a young audience.
I mean, look, he's got 25 million, something like 25 million monthly listeners on Spotify.
So he's doing fine.
This isn't, you know, this is not gonna even if it's received badly, it's not gonna put a dent in his in his career.
seamus coughlin
We're deporting all of them.
jack posobiec
Yeah, well, here's what I would say, yeah.
Faye, look up the Zach Bryan supporters and strip them of their citizenship.
Um, but no, it it what it is though, and this is an example of something I call Yellowstoning.
And it's a trend that I've noticed from the great show, yellow's formerly great show, Yellowstone, where you will see, and in this specific one, you call is an archetype called the Hick Lib.
And the Hick Lib is someone who and and look, you're you're from Alabama, you may have seen this, where you take someone who's you know, kind of kind of presents themselves as a country boy and is in some corporate position like you know, pop country like this, and sort of has the aesthetics of someone that we would normally perceive to be conservative, and yet they start opening their mouth, and it's like, and that's why we shouldn't have guns anymore.
And you're like, Well, what what did he just say?
Yeah, you know, and that's why we need to give the middle finger to ass.
Wait, wait, uh I'm sorry, what what and so it's it's like a it's like an op that's being run on Middle America and and the South and Appalachia to say, no, it's actually cool to be against Trump, and it's actually it's it's our people against Trump and uh you saw this with Yellowstone, and I'm sorry that people didn't see it coming when they did.
First, they give him the Antifa girlfriend and to Kevin Costner, and then he's like learning about climate justice, then they have all the stuff about the Indians, and they had the one Monica, right?
The the the uh you know, is giving these lectures, and you're just forced to watch this for no reason that ties into the story.
They they actually were in the first season, but then they weren't anymore.
And then at the very end, they they turn the whole ranch over to the Indians, and you see them taking down the why and like overturning graves and stuff, and it's like if you don't see that as a metaphor for tearing down Western civilization and tearing down as we've been talking about all night here, you know, tearing down the things that our ancestors built in this country, then I I think you're just not paying attention, or maybe you don't understand like the messaging that is not even subliminal.
I mean, I I don't see how it could get more overt and you know Zach Bryan obviously nowhere near as uh as deft as um oh gosh, what's the Yellowstone guy?
Tyler Sheridan, um, you know, in his writing, he's just beating you over the head with how how overt he is.
But have you seen this?
Have you seen this in country and and some of these other artists where suddenly they're just like they're just putting more liberal stuff into the like into the mainstream.
morgan murphy
Uh yeah.
I mean, when when uh Taylor Swift was called country, uh I I listened, I'm old, so I listen to old country, right?
Classic country.
jack posobiec
Yeah, real country.
Real country.
Yeah, yeah, real country.
morgan murphy
White yoke him.
And when Taylor Swift was called country, I'm like, I'm out.
unidentified
Um, so I I don't keep up with Oh no, I got you.
jack posobiec
No, but it's it I'm telling you, or Beyonce just did a country album.
morgan murphy
Right.
Now I I can't listen to that.
jack posobiec
Right.
And so and so I'm again, Seamus, back me up on this.
You know what I'm talking about.
They they're they're forcing the hick lib on us, and not only that, but they're doing it on YouTube as well.
And a while back, I I was able to find that the State Department was working with like the ADL and YouTube to fund uh this new algorithmic program where they were actually funneling people into hick libs and hick lib content and channels where they would say, Yeah, I like guns, I like the second amendment, but yeah, I could pull it up in two seconds.
seamus coughlin
I had no idea.
I mean, I've seen some of these channels.
I'm curious to hear about three places.
jack posobiec
No, we will, we will exist.
But I'm I'm telling you, that this is just another example of this.
But you're right, we should go to callers, and I would be remiss if I didn't get the callers' opinions on the latest psyop in our country.
So where are we going, guys?
Where are we going?
carter banks
We're gone to Duke Sparkle Teddy's Esquire, who is up first.
phil labonte
What's up, man?
You there?
carter banks
I gotta unmute them.
phil labonte
Yeah, I'm muteing.
Duke, are you there?
carter banks
By me.
Um hold on.
Uh unmute.
All right.
phil labonte
Duke.
carter banks
Duke Spark.
phil labonte
Hey, what's up, man?
How you doing?
unidentified
I'll live in the dream.
You know, Jack, you don't call, you don't write.
You know, I'm beginning to think our post-IRL trip to Sheets meant nothing to you.
jack posobiec
Well, look, man, look, look, sheets, the post-IRL trip to sheets is an ancient and sacred tradition, and it cannot be abridged upon.
But that being said, I don't usually talk about it publicly because I I want to keep it in that sacred bubble.
unidentified
Uh that's fair.
I I won't tell anyone how funny you actually are.
jack posobiec
Um I am not funny at all, not even a little bit.
unidentified
Seriously, though.
Why is the media, all the influencers, why are they so gay?
Uh we're seeing we're we're seeing with the news of the house fire in South Carolina, and the immediate reaction was it's because she was against Trump.
Trump is to blame.
When literally nobody at that point in time knew anything about what was happening.
That certainly isn't the only instance of media manipulation.
jack posobiec
Wait, by the way, I think it actually did come out, and I think I saw it on the postmillennial that it was it was ruled not arson.
unidentified
So is it yeah, that came out today.
jack posobiec
Yeah, so it was just, yeah, right.
I've it's it's on the yeah, it's the headline on postmillennial right now.
South Carolina authorities say fire a judge's home, not arson.
So it's just it was a fire.
It was a horrible fire.
Um, they do happen, and they have found no evidence to support a what they call a quote, a free fire pre-fire explosion, no evidence to indicate the fire was intentionally set.
So obviously it's horrible.
I certainly hope everyone um is okay, but people were blaming Harmeet Dylan um because Harmeat Dylan had uh you know called out um this judge and you know, and and and talked about this in the past, and they just said no, no evidence.
unidentified
Yeah, and basically the real question is what's the proper solution to all this?
How do we actually bring about a change that tells these broadcast networks, these major influence peddlers out there that enough is enough.
We don't want to hear their narrative 10 seconds after something comes out when it's completely off base.
jack posobiec
I mean, look, there's different ways to to go about this.
I mean, uh obviously part of it is is not listening, but you know, I I've got to say one of the big ones that I've seen uh that I've and and really support is what Elon Musk uh was doing last week, and and then Cash Patel and others with their direct targeting of these fake institutions and smear factories like the SPLC.
Yes, and the SPLC has existed for years.
Uh, you know, perhaps it was started under best intentions, Alabama again, by the way.
morgan murphy
And law center.
jack posobiec
And and and and yet for some by the by the way, let me let me ask you that question.
So so you know, we got this organization, they've been inciting violence all over the country.
Alabama's a pretty red state last time I checked.
Why won't the why hasn't the Alabama AG opened up an investigation into them?
morgan murphy
That that's an excellent question, J. Cowardice.
You'll have to ask uh the AG about that.
jack posobiec
But by the way, and I'm um and I'm gonna be serious about this for a second because this is something that Charlie and I talked about.
And and Charlie had tweeted about it in the past.
You know, they sit there in a massively red state, they're right at the center, they call it the poverty palace, and we couldn't even get an investigation into their obviously uh fraudulent and corrupt uh scam fund scams, the fundraising, the misappropriation of funds, the misuse of donated funds.
I mean, uh every rule in the book they would break, and yet not even a subpoena.
Nothing, nothing, nothing so so to answer the the caller's question, answer uh Duke, you know, I think you've got to go a step beyond that because look, we have the First Amendment, and we're not gonna we're not gonna break the First Amendment, but these organizations that are behind it, those are the ones you put the pressure on.
carter banks
Yep.
phil labonte
Is that answer your question?
unidentified
Fair enough.
carter banks
All right, you want to shout anything out?
unidentified
Uh why apart pod, Monday through Friday, 6 30 Eastern.
Thank you guys.
carter banks
All right, thanks for your call, man.
phil labonte
Thanks, man.
jack posobiec
Appreciate you, man.
See it cheats.
carter banks
All right.
Next we got Luke Grey Wolf.
Luke Gray Wolf, you're up.
phil labonte
What's going on, Luke?
How are you doing, bud?
unidentified
Howdy, y'all.
Professional driver and mediocre artist.
I've got a fairly simple question for the panel.
When does a lethal threat actually become a threat to life?
Because we watch these little leftist twerps scream and threaten to kill people in public constantly all the time.
And I'm not asking this so much as a legal question or a question of a legal standard, but a question of societally what is acceptable.
I think what's like we have that video of the journalist in Portland where the guy's walking up on him saying, I'm gonna smoke you.
That's a threat to kill him.
seamus coughlin
Yes, it is.
unidentified
And I'm what I'm afraid of is we are very fastly careening towards a very vi what will be a very viral video of one of these twerk shitheads threatening to kill the wrong person and either reaching for a pocket or going to pull something out of their pocket, and then that person just failure drilling them and dropping them on the ground, dead.
seamus coughlin
And we'll talk about it for 50 years.
That will be the example of political violence in this country and political extremism.
If it happens, I I agree with you.
It's worrying.
It's worrying.
jack posobiec
And and by the way, uh, and I'll just say this, you know, after seeing what happened to Charlie, every single time I watch one of these videos when I see Nick Shirley or Nick Sorter or Katie Daviscourt, who's my colleague from Postmillennial, or just any of them that are out there putting themselves in harm's way like this,
it it it is kind of it's it's uncomfortable for me to watch this because I'm constant, just as you said, I'm constantly waiting for that one where suddenly, you know, something rings out or somebody reaches for something and they go down.
morgan murphy
Gotta keep putting ourselves in harm's way.
I mean, you did it when you joined the Navy.
Uh that's what I told my nephew when he said, I don't want you to run.
I said, It's important to do is it's important to put yourself in harm's way.
Because if no one else steps up, we're gonna lose what we believe in the most and cherish the most.
jack posobiec
That being said, security.
We can have security smartly.
morgan murphy
You can do it.
jack posobiec
We can do it smartly.
morgan murphy
You can do it smartly, but that that's that's um and I believe Charlie did it smartly.
jack posobiec
No, he did, and there were some issues there that will be coming out uh you know in due time uh from the local police and campus, and that's all gonna be coming out.
morgan murphy
I admire I admire people who put who put themselves forward and who are willing to take that risk and who are willing to step out.
What do you drive by the way?
unidentified
Oh, uh drive a Kenworth W 900.
Nice.
jack posobiec
Yeah, we get we get a lot of professional drivers on.
morgan murphy
Are you making it your way down to God's country, aka Alabama?
unidentified
Uh I'll be in Alabama here in a few days to go to the Dorsey factory, but for now I'm going to America's asshole, Atlanta.
morgan murphy
I was stuck there last night.
unidentified
This is the uh this is a go to hell I'm gonna have to connect to Atlanta first.
jack posobiec
I think that's about right.
unidentified
Oh, but I've the question I'm really asking is like I'm not so concerned about the major personalities, but if it happens, it's just gonna be a video of a regular person.
And it's just gonna be the wrong person somebody messes with.
That'll be have a at this point a reasonable fear for their life for this many people have been killed.
And I genuinely kind of worry about it, and what I worry most about it is that the reaction will just be they fucked around and found out.
jack posobiec
Well, look, we that happened.
I was just gonna say we we've what we already know, yeah.
We already know what what'll happen because this happened five years ago, and it was called Kyle Rittenhouse in Kenosha, Wisconsin.
And we saw how he defended himself deftly three times in a row uh from people who are trying in succession to murder a murderous ru mob, a literal murderous mob was chasing him through the streets of Kenosha.
It's all on videotape.
The FBI had a plane flying overhead conducting video surveillance of all of this that they didn't release, so I released it uh uh on the you know on the eve of of Kyle's trial, and he was charged.
He was charged for defending himself.
And so unfortunately, as much as I hate to say it, depending on the locality, especially if it's in one of these blue states, blue cities like Chicago or Portland, that person will definitely be charged.
Uh, I will certainly do everything in my power to New York.
Uh yeah, uh Daniel Penny and in New York.
So I'll certainly do everything in my power to uh support and uh uh tell the truth and spread awareness about whatever happens in this situation, if of course it is uh truly a self-defense situation.
But but again, that it would just be it would be another Kyle Rittenhouse.
And and by the way, I don't want that.
That's why I do support the president of the United States saying, look, if this has gotten too far out of control, the appropriate response is to call in the National Guard, and it's simply that.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, I mean laws have to be enforced.
jack posobiec
Yes.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
seamus coughlin
It's crazy.
It's from that's a remarkably controversial opinion these days.
jack posobiec
Anything you wanted to shout out.
unidentified
Uh I have an Instagram account by the same name, followed up your own risk.
Uh I'm just gonna go back driving, finishing up my yogurt.
Where the hell did my spoon go?
jack posobiec
Oh, he snuck it in there.
Oh, he totally snuck it up on me.
I didn't really bravos.
seamus coughlin
I feel just to be honest, mistreated.
I feel as if I'm being mistreated.
carter banks
Thanks for calling in.
jack posobiec
Do you want someone to spoon you?
seamus coughlin
That's horrifying.
That's I I've just the fact that the pun was that.
jack posobiec
Are you the big spoon or the little spoon?
seamus coughlin
You're just you just keep going with it.
carter banks
All right, next we got Lynch.
jack posobiec
You know, they say uh they say they say met your medicine tastes better with a spoonful of sugar.
seamus coughlin
Oh my gosh, dude.
I am being bullied, and I should never have done this.
unidentified
Yes.
jack posobiec
That's correct.
carter banks
Hello, Lynch Mob.
unidentified
Owdy.
Hi.
Oh Jack, I have a question for you, sir.
jack posobiec
Yes, sir.
unidentified
All right.
My uh my son's a senior.
And he is cons well.
He's already determined to join the military.
jack posobiec
Oh, here we go.
unidentified
He brought out of the gate telling me he wants to be Navy intelligence.
jack posobiec
Oh, that's that's that's terrible.
That's the worst worst job in the fleet.
unidentified
Yeah.
This is what I'm calling.
jack posobiec
Sure, sure.
unidentified
Uh arm so the army recruiter has visited the school and talked to him, and now he's considering army intentional.
Oh no, no, not an army.
Okay.
Uh my question is I'm trying to get him to take like maybe a year or two to go to college and study uh for his as so he'd be ready for his as vab so he can be in to Intel, because I don't think he's gonna come out of high school know what he knows now.
Uh I just I don't think he's gonna score high enough.
jack posobiec
So has he has he has he taken any of the has he taken a practice as VAP yet?
unidentified
Oh yeah.
jack posobiec
Okay.
Okay, I mean look, they they they want to hire they want you know you want as high as possible as you you can get on your ASVAP to get intel, that's for sure.
shane cashman
Right.
jack posobiec
Um and if and if he's not ready, he's not ready.
And that being said, if he wants intel, which you know, I I I got obviously through through, you know, I was I went enlisted first, but then I went officer.
And you know, it's it's you you really need that high as VAP score coming.
I think it's 89 or above, at least when I joined it was something like that.
Uh probab could be higher now if it's a little bit more selective.
Um when I was going in, uh they had bonuses too for Intel.
So I got a uh $19,000 bonus uh for joining when I did um and and going the Intel route.
Now you only get that on the upon the completion of boot camp.
So you have to go all the way through.
You have to commit, you have to sign the contract, you have to complete boot camp, then you get it.
Um look, I I think they're both great.
You know, if his if his heart set on Navy, you know, obviously I'm gonna say go Navy.
Um there are there are different jobs that you can do in the army.
So if he's looking at more human intelligence, that's you know, the army has a more robust program there.
But as far as everything else goes, um, you know, Navy's, you know, I I'm just gonna say it.
I think Navy's got a better global footprint.
Um that's because of the nature of our operations being as worldwide as they are.
Um, but you're you're gonna be plugged in directly to same uh communication suites, etc.
Like that.
So yeah, that being said, you know, when it comes to the scores, I would I would suggest and I would highly recommend getting those scores up and and because here's what the recruiter's gonna do.
The recruiter's gonna say, Well, you know, we got this other job that's it's just as good, and we can get you in right now, and they that recruiter will try all the pressure tactics, and that's probably what's going on right now, isn't it?
morgan murphy
Jack, are you saying that a recruiter might lie?
jack posobiec
Oh recruiter is paid to lie.
morgan murphy
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
So that's what I mean.
That that's my question.
So if I can get him to go for uh like a semester, two semesters, four semesters, whatever.
Uh community college, does that matter?
Like what are some of the topics or what are some of the things that he should be uh classes or whatever that he should be taking to try to bump it that would bump his ass back.
If he was just like just taking classes, not even trying to to get a g degree or anything.
jack posobiec
Yeah, I mean, if you really focused on that, I I mean, by the way, there's there's plenty of online courses as well.
There's um uh there's there's uh stuff you can do to do prep for this.
Um uh math and English are gonna be your you know your two sweet spots in terms of just those are the core competencies that you really need to to complete the test.
Um so focusing on core high school math and uh core high school English, but at the same time taking that test, it's timed.
So now I know there's a the timing is different from when I did it, but at the same time, you need to get used to taking that test under pressure.
So getting your speed up.
And when I was going to, you know, prior to taking the test myself, um, I was giving myself practice tests multiple times a day, not just to work on my um, you know, test taking ability, but also my speed.
Because once I could identify the question, identify which formula I needed for that, you know, that specific portion of it.
The the amount of time that I could reduce in my decision making led to more time that I'd be able to focus on the test.
So learn the test inside and out.
But yeah, really it just it's it's core math and core English that uh that are really gonna put you over the top there or put him over the top, I should say.
phil labonte
Any more questions or anything?
jack posobiec
Very specific question, but I actually want to know the answer to.
So there you go.
morgan murphy
Great answer to that.
phil labonte
You got anything you want to?
seamus coughlin
That was actually really solid.
phil labonte
Yeah, do you want anything?
You got anything you want to want to shout out?
unidentified
Uh no, I mean, uh watch uh's show, uh watch Quiet Part, watch uh Joey's show.
There's a lot of people in Discord that have start shows that everybody check those out.
jack posobiec
That's great.
And by the way, tell your son just just as a last piece, you know, I love that he wants to serve.
I love the energy, but remember, as we say in the Navy, choose your rate, choose your fate.
So, you know, the minute he signs on that dotted line, you are sending your your you're selling your your life away to the USG, and uh and that recruiter is not gonna be with you the minute he drops you off at MEPS.
So you're done.
You are you are recruited, you're going up to Great Mistakes, Great Lakes, uh Illinois.
And and just remember, so it's it's that could really set the course of the rest of your life.
And the the recruiter's not gonna tell you that The recruiter's gonna say, Oh, it's fine, you get you in, you can re-rate, you do this.
No, no.
Start right and you will be on a a path that you know, look, you get an intelligence and you know, you could make it a career for the rest of your life, or you know, you could stop about halfway through and and start doing podcasts like I did.
morgan murphy
And we joke about it.
I mean, we everybody in the military jokes about it.
We say that like Navy stands for never again volunteer yourself.
Yeah, you know, things like that.
But it is the greatest uh decision I ever made in my life.
And I would agree with that.
To any young person who is thinking about joining the military, especially now.
I mean, we're back.
jack posobiec
Man, I would have loved to serve under Pete.
Oh man, I will have loved it.
morgan murphy
But you didn't wouldn't want to serve under Lloyd Austin.
jack posobiec
Oh gonna make me throw up on camera, man.
unidentified
FD hefty sack oh and Millie the visor.
jack posobiec
Oh no.
Yeah, with the visor and the mask.
morgan murphy
But now what a great time to join our military.
What I mean, it it is something when I was down will never be never ever will he regret wearing the cloth of his nation.
jack posobiec
100%.
unidentified
Well, that's what I told him that.
I was like, Well, you took you picked a good time.
So yeah.
jack posobiec
Yeah, tell him take a little more time, get that test up, he'll be all right.
carter banks
All right, thanks so much for your question, man.
jack posobiec
Take care.
unidentified
Best night.
jack posobiec
You too.
morgan murphy
It's probably great to hear about young people.
I just love it.
jack posobiec
I hear I hear it all the time.
And I don't know, I try to take and I'm sure you're the same way.
Uh whenever I get, you know, I get a lot of people in high school, you know, they say, hey, I'm looking to join the military, what do I do?
I really do try to take time with those guys because nobody ever did for me.
morgan murphy
No.
jack posobiec
And I did everything uh Bass Accords, as they say.
morgan murphy
Yep, yeah.
jack posobiec
And you know, they're like, why'd you have a college degree and then you went enlisted?
Because I know what I was doing.
unidentified
Right.
jack posobiec
You know, and uh I tell people at Rotzy a lot.
I think Razi's a great program, it's a fantastic program.
You get you get in, you start as an O2 at 22, you're just ahead of the curve.
And um, you know, if people want to go the enlisted route, that's great too.
I I try to set them up for success.
morgan murphy
At the end of Veterans Life, I I've handed out 266 American flags to next of Ken.
jack posobiec
And it's it's you're on you're on the detail.
morgan murphy
Yeah, I've done a lot of funeral details.
Um, you know, they're not a lot of Navy guys in Alabama, so when an officer dies, sure, you know.
But um it seeing how proud their families are of them, uh, and no matter how old they are, it's just so incredibly meaningful.
It's something that sticks with you your whole life.
jack posobiec
Hopefully, not too young.
morgan murphy
Not too young.
Oh, I've done very young, you know, the very very young sailors, which is heartbreaking.
Um it's never easy to, you know, that speech and that flag when you hand it over on a knee, thanking them on behalf of the United States and the Grateful Nation.
Yeah, and the United States Navy.
Um that's a that's one of the toughest things I've ever done.
Um, but it is uh it's it's a brotherhood, and uh I mean to include women too, but it's a brotherhood of people who serve, and it's especially meaningful.
jack posobiec
Amen to that.
carter banks
All right, we got one more caller.
unidentified
Uh R three, you're on.
phil labonte
What's up, man?
unidentified
Evening, fellas.
R3.
jack posobiec
How are you?
carter banks
How are you?
unidentified
All right, so my question my question's this.
Because Tim had a segment at 12 p.m. today about the Jay Jonas thing.
Uh he's saying something along the lines of the more scared that the middle gets, the more right that they're gonna vote.
Why are we not assuming that the left is intentionally ramping up more fear and terror in the country as a way to threaten people into saying, like, hey, you vote for us, we're gonna make all this go away.
We promise.
We they what do you guys think about that?
And how do we navigate around that?
phil labonte
They absolutely are doing that.
They're openly saying that they're doing that.
There are leftists that say things like, Look, you know, I we talked about it earlier on IRL tonight.
Um, you know, there are there are people that are saying we need conservatives to to be in fear for their lives, so they will vote so they will tell their leaders to um to tone it down.
And this same very same streamer that I'm talking about, he said that if you didn't want Charlie Kirk to be dead, you shouldn't have voted for Donald Trump.
So I mean, it's literally openly terroristic threats, right?
These are he's openly endorsing terrorism.
jack posobiec
I was sitting right there when he said it.
phil labonte
Yeah, yeah.
jack posobiec
Oh, yeah, you were on the segment.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Insane.
Insane.
jack posobiec
And by the way, people people would would say that, you know, how come you didn't respond?
I said, how do you respond to something like that?
What would what do you even say?
phil labonte
Yeah.
jack posobiec
What do you even say?
phil labonte
Um, so so yeah, I mean, to that point, I you know, I I think that uh I think that that the left already is in a position where they are you know endorsing terrorism and you know, whether whether it be about like you you mentioned uh whatever uh Jay Jones or whatever his name is, um he's completely comfortable with threatening uh or with the idea of of conservatives dying.
Uh obviously, you know, Charlie was assassinated.
There were two attempts on the president's life just last year and leading up to the to the election.
I mean, the the idea that this isn't the the modus operandi currently of the left, I think that that's you know that's that's an error in in in thinking, or at least not really looking at the the conditions that we're living in right now.
And as for Tim's argument today about um frightened people, he was he made he made the remark about um you know it's it's the economy stupid, which generally is true, but when you're in a context where people are afraid for their safety, that does trump the economy.
And I do think Tim's right about that.
Um I don't know that the average person is going to feel like they are in danger or like it's an existential threat.
Um but if the if the conditions on the ground change and and there is a ramping up of political violence and people feel like they are actually in danger, then it's possible that that the right wins a big you know has a big victory in in the midterms.
Generally, that's not what happens because Donald Trump is is you know a Republican and he won the presidency.
And historically, the the administration that's in power, usually the up the opposition wins in the uh in the midterms.
Um I'm hopeful that that doesn't happen because you know that the the House will, you know, draw up articles of impeachment.
They've already tried in this, you know, in this presidency, right?
The the 47th presidency.
morgan murphy
Green did it.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Al Al Green is the name Al?
morgan murphy
Yeah, I think it's Al.
phil labonte
I think it's Al Green.
Um, he drew them up.
Now, no, thankfully, most of the people on the left said, nah, that ain't a good idea.
You know, it it was a bad timing.
But that doesn't mean that should the Republican or should the Democrats take the house, that doesn't mean that they won't do it immediately.
Like that is something you can guarantee.
So I mean, I I do hope the the conservatives win.
You know, I would love to see it, but I don't I don't hope that the conditions in the United States deteriorate to the point where it is likely that the conservatives win because people are afraid.
That makes any sense.
jack posobiec
Well, I would just I would just add to that as well, that that this stuff also amps up the left.
phil labonte
Yeah.
jack posobiec
So you're gonna see the left come out because they hate ice so much.
You're gonna see the left come out in in Virginia and yes, in New Jersey, where there's also the gubernatorial race.
Very close governor's race in New Jersey.
Um, I think it might be uh heading out there this uh weekend, actually, to participate in that that one big rally that's coming up in Wildwood.
And it's it's gonna drive out people on both sides.
I think it will.
morgan murphy
Yeah.
Well, you're exactly right in 2020, we saw that blackmail before.
I mean, the cities burned all summer before that election.
It was an election year, and it was a a riotous summer, and there was the under current of well, if if Trump had won, they would have burned down and he did win, I think.
But they would have burned down America.
phil labonte
I if if if the uh the if Hunter's laptop if it had that not had that not been suppressed the way that it was, I think that he would have won on the nation's oldest newspaper founded by Alexander Hamas.
Unreal.
Yeah, I think that he would have won on merit and and not because the the context of the 2020 uh election was was just so novel, you know, the way that they were distributed mail-in votes.
Yeah, exactly.
morgan murphy
You know, unheralded.
And even if you don't believe that and my friends are like, oh, well, Morgan, you know, do you really believe I do uh I believe the election was rigged because I was a member, I I grew up as a member of the media, right?
That was my first career to see the free press suppressed by big tech by every other.
I mean, the Washington Post have have they apologized for calling it Russian disinformation, the laptop story.
seamus coughlin
What is it?
morgan murphy
You know, for their apology 50 former intelligence officers.
I mean, we just haven't seen consequences and justice.
Well, that's exactly it's a good idea in that election.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, there's zero consequences.
And ultimately, the authority figure shapes this subordinate or vice versa.
This is one of those things people say about parenthood, like either you're shaping your child or your child is shaping you.
That's also true of a society and a political movement.
You are shaping that political movement.
You're telling them no, you're not going to get out of line.
You're not going to burn down buildings.
You're not going to kill people.
You're not going to threaten violence.
You're not going to shut down speech you don't like.
You're not going to violate people's rights as were uh delineated exactly their civil rights and also uh their rights as delineated by the bill of rights.
Or you say actually you can go ahead and do all of those things and we're gonna stand back and let it happen.
That's a really big piece of this equation is that when they engage in acts of terroristic violence, it's not like they're all brave people who and I'm not saying this would make them brave, but they're not these self-sacrificing heroes who are fine going to jail for the cause.
They know they're not gonna get in trouble.
They go for easy targets, they go for people who won't hit them back, they go for people who aren't gonna hurt them, and they have the entire legal system on their side.
morgan murphy
So you're right.
I mean, it like we were discussing earlier in a blue city, in my own blue city, you can you know be guilty of attempted murder and walk free.
seamus coughlin
That's insane to me.
morgan murphy
What's harassing someone for their political beliefs by comparison to attempted murder?
seamus coughlin
Well, I so originally I'm from Cook County, and the laws there now are insane.
Similar stuff with the no cash bail for people for like crimes like kidnapping and homicide.
What on earth?
Um I do have kind of a funny story though.
There's there's this county line, and on one side you have Cook County and then the other side you have another county, um, where there are actual laws that are enforced, and there's this this cop who kind of worked around that territory, and when he would pick people up, they would ask, am I am I in Cook or am I in DuPage?
Like what area am I?
And they would ask.
He'd go, wrong one.
You were in the wrong county, pal.
morgan murphy
Throw you under the jail.
seamus coughlin
Yeah, exactly.
phil labonte
Right.
So does that answer your question?
seamus coughlin
But anyway, yeah, yeah.
Sorry, man.
phil labonte
Sorry.
Does that answer your question?
Yeah, I think so.
unidentified
I think overall.
phil labonte
You got anything you want to add?
unidentified
Uh well, I mean, Jack mentioned Jersey and I'm born and raised there, so I guess um only last shout-out I'd have is just get out there and vote for governor's race.
morgan murphy
That's about it.
jack posobiec
Amen of that.
carter banks
Yeah, man.
Thanks for calling in.
unidentified
Yeah.
carter banks
All right.
And we are all right.
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