Oct. 4, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Thank you. | |
| We're good? | ||
| The federal government is investigating Portland. | ||
| Oh man, this is gonna be huge. | ||
| The DOJ civil rights division is uh launching this investigation because Portland police arrested journalist Nick Sorter after he got attacked. | ||
| However, when Katie Davis court was attacked, beaten, and left with a black eye, they did not arrest Antifa. | ||
| Now I can only just say uh my friends, I've been warning for some time that uh the police in uh in Portland are communists. | ||
| So uh this is not surprising, but it's good to see the feds are ramping things up. | ||
| We'll be talking about that. | ||
| We got a bunch of other news. | ||
| Donald Trump's got a major Supreme Court victory, allowing him to remove protected status from a ton of Venezuelan illegal immigrants. | ||
| And uh the treasury is going to be making a uh Trump coin with him raising his fist by the American flag, so that'll be fun. | ||
| We'll talk about that and a lot more before we get started. | ||
| Oh, actually, there's one more big story. | ||
| Holy crap, I can't miss this one. | ||
| Um, we we are actually we're thinking about leading with the story. | ||
| Turns out, uh, we were personally attacked by China. | ||
| Yes, so uh the blazes report that that sim site, the fake cell tower network that was discovered in New York was actually targeting, among many others, me. | ||
| This is a weird story. | ||
| China was not very uh happy with me targeting Steve Bannon, Cash Patel and others. | ||
| That story's pretty massive. | ||
| We'll get to that one as well. | ||
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| Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Catalina Lauf. | ||
| Hey guys. | ||
| Who are you? | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| I am Catalina Lauf. | ||
| I'm running for Congress in Florida's 19th district, encompassing parts of Fort Myers, Cape Coral, Naples, Bonita Springs, Estero. | ||
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| Lots of crazy stuff happening right now. | ||
| UAP's just shut down the Munich Airport. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Bunch of crazy stuff happening in Europe with uh what I believe to be probably uh interdimensional beings. | ||
| Uh maybe, but we could go over it in the show. | ||
| Trump just told uh uh Israel to stop bombing Gaza so far they haven't, so hopefully we'll talk about that and a lot more. | ||
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Thank you. | |
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| And uh we also, this maniac to my right, Mr. Tape. | ||
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| I'm all metalo head, so uh happy to be here. | ||
| A towel head, huh? | ||
| Towel. | ||
| Interesting word. | ||
| This will slide a hand. | ||
| Anyway, let's talk about the news. | ||
| We've got this story from the postmillennial. | ||
| DOJ Civil Rights Division investigates Portland police over response to Antifa attack on Katie Davis Court and the arrest of Nick Sorter. | ||
| For those that missed this, many of you may be aware that Katie Davis Corda, reporter for the postmillennial, was bashed in the head, giving her a black eye. | ||
| Just last night or early this morning, depending on where you live. | ||
| Nick sorter, a conservative journalist, had been attacked by Antifa. | ||
| And when he went to the police to report the crime, they arrested him. | ||
| I'm gonna say I've said it before. | ||
| I said it this morning, I'm gonna say it now. | ||
| The cops in the Pacific Northwest are communists. | ||
| I'm saying that somewhat to be a dick. | ||
| They are far leftists, they are aligned with the left, they protect Antifa. | ||
| Antifa are there under the protection of the police. | ||
| That is why when Katie was attacked, they did not arrest them. | ||
| That is why when Nick Sorter got attacked, they arrested him. | ||
| Now you can make any argument in the world you want. | ||
| Action speak louder than words, but the big news is check this out. | ||
| Assistant attorney general for civil rights, Harmie Dylan has launched an investigation into the assault of Kitty Davis Court and the arrest of Nick Sorter. | ||
| I believe we actually have uh we have this tweet from Harmeet Dillon saying Portland, it's FO time. | ||
| Buckle up. | ||
| And then we have this letter published by Harmie Dillon saying Portland signed, sealed, and delivered. | ||
| I'll just read some of this. | ||
| It says, Dear Mr. Taylor and Chief Day, your immediate attention to this matter is required. | ||
| We are writing regarding Portland Police Bureau's response to incidents surrounding the ICE Facility in Portland, and specifically the city of Portland's use of its policing powers in a manner that may be based on viewpoint discrimination. | ||
| Specifically, three issues have brought been brought to our attention. | ||
| PPB reportedly arrested individuals who may have been involved in an altercation, choosing to arrest Nick Sorter, but not others. | ||
| PPB reportedly failed to identify or arrest individuals who allegedly assaulted Katie Davis Court even after briefly detaining the individuals. | ||
| And the city of Portland reportedly has attempted to use its policing powers through a zoning enforcement action to limit ICE's use of its Portland facility. | ||
| She goes on to say, well, we have not reached any conclusions on these allegations. | ||
| We we note a consistent theme in these in these three allegations, all three would choose one viewpoint over another. | ||
| Moreover, the allegations implicate the city's performance under the settlement agreement in the above referenced case. | ||
| They're going to mention uh uh Harmita Dillon mentions more to address our uh compliance concerns raised by these these allegations. | ||
| We request the following by no later than October 10th. | ||
| The original unredacted BWC recording of the officer, body warn camera involved in the uh the arrest of Nick Sorter, the uh body worn camera of the incident involving Miss Davis Court, all unredacted incident reports for Miss Order and Miss David Court, all complaints received about the incidents involving Mr. Swarter and Miss David Court, | ||
| Miss Davis Court, or the decision to target the ICE facility for don't zoning enforcement, all non-torney non-attorney client privileged communications regarding their decisions, all non-attorney client privileged communications regarding directions to PPB responding to those protests, and any any documents or explanation the city wants to provide to the U.S. in response to the above listed allegations. | ||
| Now, it sounds fun, but do y'all think this actually has teeth? | ||
| Or it's just talk. | ||
| Drew Hernandez pointed out that she misspelled Nick's name. | ||
| She he she spelled it sorter with S-O-R-T-E-R in the first frame for sure. | ||
| I don't I didn't read through all of it at the bottom there. | ||
| You'll see his name's Portland. | ||
| I don't know if that makes she has to reissue this. | ||
| It's just a I don't think so. | ||
| Yeah, and I don't know that it really matters because she called a harmless error. | ||
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Right. | |
| It's obviously she's talking about Nick and what happened. | ||
| The thing is the police's job is to keep the peace. | ||
| So at the microcosm, they're like, well, the reporter is the is the one that's poking the bear, so let's calm down the take the reporter away and everything will be calm. | ||
| But you have to zoom out and look at Portland in general, and that these groups that may be you know, organized and maybe somewhat peaceful in their pr pretension to destroy, like might actually be the chaotic thing. | ||
| And the reporters that are there might like it's more that Antifa is poking the United States' bear as opposed to the reporter poking Antifa's bear. | ||
| And I the federal government getting involved, I think shows that. | ||
| We have cameras now, we have internet. | ||
| They can't do this stuff in seclusion anymore and just and hide it. | ||
| America, I mean, Ian, uh, we're in America. | ||
| People have a right to their opinions. | ||
| And I don't care if he's poking in the bear or not, I don't care what his opinions are. | ||
| He has a right to report from there. | ||
| The police officers, if they were doing their job, they should have intervened right away when people were attacking him, not wait after the fact to arrest all the parties. | ||
| I heard that other people were arrested here as well, so I don't know if that is true with what Harmete Dillon is saying. | ||
| Uh, but obviously, clearly we've been talking about this for the last few days. | ||
| This has always been going on. | ||
| People get attacked, you defend yourself, because I think Nick admitted to trying to swing back as well. | ||
| Uh, and then you get uh arrested for disorderly conduct, which is ridiculous. | ||
| Nick tweeted the night before that if he gets attacked and defends himself, he'll be arrested. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he he knew they'd target him for self-defense. | ||
| See, what people need to understand is that Antifa is a sanctioned division within the government. | ||
| And I mean that not in the hard literal sense, like you're gonna go to the government and find documentation of it, but the police protect Antifa because they were effectively privateers for the city to attack their enemies. | ||
| The Portland police work for the for for the liberal government, which does not want ICE operating. | ||
| They have a vested interest in protecting criminals. | ||
| How do they get rid of ICE? | ||
| How do they obstruct ICE? | ||
| Well, they can't order police to do it. | ||
| So what happens is through circuitous means, they allow Antifa, protect Antifa, and then say, well, you know, there's nothing we can do about it. | ||
| Then when Antifa attacks Nick, they arrest Nick. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because he's interfering with a government operation. | ||
| What about Katie Davis Court gets attacked? | ||
| They don't arrest anybody because those people are allies of the police. | ||
| This has been true for probably five years. | ||
| We watched this when they did the Chaz Chop. | ||
| There was one video where a guy got attacked by Antifun, he was backing away with his hands up, cops pull up behind him, jump out of a vehicle, and grab him and arrest him, and then apologize to Antifa. | ||
| And that was in Seattle. | ||
| We know this is what's happening. | ||
| The feds need to go in. | ||
| So I hope this has real teeth. | ||
| I think it does because for so long, we have seen these groups being completely emboldened by being allowed to get away with this stuff. | ||
| Everybody turns a blind eye, especially under Democratic administrations. | ||
| Finally, now that President Trump is laying down law and order and defending rightfully so conservative voices, I really believe this is a uh I don't want to say uh I do feel that this is actually gonna be set precedent to future moments of this because it has to stop. | ||
| I mean, it's unbelievable the violence that has been being caused against people who are like Nick, just trying to spread facts. | ||
| Thank God for social media, because look at the the video. | ||
| Had we not had that, had we not even had evidence, none of us would even be talked about, and thank God for the movement, because think about everybody who came up to his defense that even it even got to the eyes of the AG. | ||
| I I feel like Antifa needs what I would call a reality check, and this is actually could be a good thing for the movement of people that are actually anti-fascist. | ||
| The United States government is not fascist in the sense of Giovanni Gentile's fascism. | ||
| It was like a it was like a political, it was like a spiritual religious movement of like we are all one, we are all individuals, but we are also all connected. | ||
| We are all one, and the state is the manifestation of that. | ||
| And so we are all the state speaks for us, the state is the greatest force of all of us, and it became this religious zeitgeist in Italy that Mussolini then took and he made gentile his you know minister. | ||
| Is that your point? | ||
| So my point is if we don't have a country like that, that's not how our country works. | ||
| People don't have religious adoration. | ||
| I mean, now you can see people, it might spark up. | ||
| People are like, good, govern me harder, daddy. | ||
| Give me the feds, give me the feds. | ||
| That can be that can lead to fascism, but in the meantime, we're more of a corporatocracy. | ||
| This conversation, and I don't mean this to sound disrespectful, but the things you're saying are 2018. | ||
| People they need to hear it though. | ||
| People that are antifa and they think they're actually challenging fascism or in the room. | ||
| Again, again, that's why I'm saying this conversation is 2018. | ||
| These people don't think they're Antifa. | ||
| They do not believe they are fighting fascism. | ||
| They are either completely devoid of any thought at all, or they are intentionally lying for the purpose of fomenting violence. | ||
| Last night you talked about the green shirts, the yellow shirts, and the red shirts in anti-fit. | ||
| I think the green shirts truly believe they're fighting fascism and don't know what fascism is. | ||
| This is the point. | ||
| The point is they don't know what fascism, communism, anti-fascism is, they don't know what antifa is, they've never heard of these things, and they are just there because someone invited them to come down and they don't know anything. | ||
| I'm speaking to those people. | ||
| This isn't a very, very important distinction. | ||
| And this is 2025. | ||
| The conversation has advanced. | ||
| There was a uh Joe Rogan mentioned this, and I and I uh I I had this critique throughout the week, that he said these people really thought that Charlie was a bad guy and that they were good people. | ||
| Joe is incorrect in that assessment. | ||
| The reason why the lies about Charlie were able to work on the left is because the left never heard of him before. | ||
| So uh another good example is uh I'm I'm I'm walking around the city today, and I get recognized all the time. | ||
| And I've got security. | ||
| We'll keep it at that. | ||
| And in these conversations, one points out, he'd say, Oh, you know, uh we we people seem to notice that whenever someone comes up to me, they're a fan. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Because in the actual political space, the people who are apprised of politics know what they're talking about, see me and say, I know who you are, you are Timpool, I'm a fan. | ||
| Liberals see me and don't know anything. | ||
| They so the the instances where I encounter someone who doesn't like me are exceedingly rare in public because the average liberal has no idea what is going on in politics, and you need only look at politics. | ||
| You know, you know who's a great follow when he unlocks his account is Jess Margera. | ||
| Steve Bennon talks about how you gotta watch MSNBC so you know what they're thinking. | ||
| And he's right. | ||
| I like to follow Jess Margjera, he's he's Bam Margera's brother, but he locks his account from time to time. | ||
| And he makes posts where you're like, okay, I see how they're thinking. | ||
| They've not even Google searched this. | ||
| The example being the reason for this shutdown. | ||
| Very simple. | ||
| If you turn on MSNBC, they're gonna have Democrats going, we are we are the like Schumer or some Democrat will go, there is no health care benefits for illegal immigrants. | ||
| We are not requesting it, we are not offering it. | ||
| There I said it, case closed. | ||
| And the liberals go, well, there it is. | ||
| Why are Republicans lying? | ||
| If they actually were telling liberals the truth, they'd say, and the reason is because we deem that anybody who enters the country illegally and then makes an assertion of legal status, we pause and say, this is now legally permitted. | ||
| So the Democrat, the Democrats don't actually tell liberals what's going on. | ||
| They just lie to them. | ||
| That's the important thing. | ||
| The people who are out on the ground at ICE don't know what ICE does, don't know what C BP is. | ||
| If you went to these people and said, what does ICE stand for? | ||
| They'd say, get out of here. | ||
| If you said, what is C BP stand for? | ||
| If you said what is USCIS, they'd go, huh? | ||
| That's the point. | ||
| They're not fighting fascists. | ||
| They are just devoid of thought. | ||
| The people who organize these rallies and the liberal high priests who communicate and rally them online, know they are lying intentionally. | ||
| Like Hassan Piker posing in front of what kind of car did he buy? | ||
| He bought like a Maserati or something. | ||
| Like, come on, dude. | ||
| This guy lives in a mansion. | ||
| He's not an anti-capitalist, he's a grifter. | ||
| That's the point. | ||
| All these people are lying to the city. | ||
| Yeah, and it's the liberal media's been lying to us the entire time since 1949. | ||
| It's only when Trump came along and he sort of kind of red pilled people intentionally or not. | ||
| And a generation of 15-year-olds is like this guy speaking the truth, at least. | ||
| I I would argue that many of them are useful idiots to an extent. | ||
| There are some revolutionaries. | ||
| But when you take a look at the uh here's a story for you guys. | ||
| We had uh Naema Trout scheduled, confirmed for the Culture War Live. | ||
| When when we when we reach out to people for this debate, hey, we want liberals, we want conservatives. | ||
| Liberals always say, Here's my fee, because they don't care about a cause making the country better. | ||
| Their whole job is their whole life is here's how many followers I have, here much here's how much money I am owed for this appearance. | ||
| That's why if you if you notice, I'll keep some names out of this, but some of these bigger podcasts, which seem to get prominent liberals on their shows, pay them. | ||
| And then you'll find that these prominent liberals who are now being paid by these other podcasters, change their opinions. | ||
| It's uh it's pretty obvious. | ||
| When we book conservatives, actually, we we barely have to try. | ||
| They're knocking on the door nonstop. | ||
| Everyone knows this. | ||
| Bill Maher talked about it. | ||
| We booked Naeima Trout, and she said, I want money. | ||
| And we said, we lose money doing these events. | ||
| This is really just about having the debate. | ||
| We understand, though, it's a live event, so we can offer you $500 as a fee. | ||
| Her team agreed to it and said, okay, we accept. | ||
| We'll cover your travel accommodation and give you 500 cash. | ||
| Nobody else is getting paid. | ||
| They emailed us yesterday saying, We want $5,000. | ||
| Can you do that? | ||
| And we said, no, we can't. | ||
| We lose money doing this. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| Part of me says, I get it. | ||
| They're claiming like she got another offer, it's gonna pay her a lot of money, and she has to take it. | ||
| Totally fine. | ||
| Who am I to tell you not to take that money? | ||
| But conservatives do it for the love and for the cause and for the movement, and liberals do it for the money. | ||
| So, in terms of these people on the ground that are being antagonized by people I I said that figuratively, who are being riled up by the likes of Hassan or the Krasensteens. | ||
| The only reason Hassan is saying the things that he says is so that he gets more clicks and makes more money. | ||
| And it's evidenced in the fact that he has no consistent logic behind what he says. | ||
| These people on the ground are attacking Nick Sorter, not because he's Nick's order. | ||
| They don't know who Nick Sorter is. | ||
| They wouldn't know if he was a fascist or anything. | ||
| All they know is they were told, bad guy. | ||
| Hit bad guy. | ||
| There's nothing you can say to them. | ||
| I said, I asked you this yesterday, Ian, I'll ask you again. | ||
| If you were standing on the gallows with one of these guys standing behind you, could you say anything that would change their mind about them about to hang you? | ||
| Technically, yes, but good luck. | ||
| Literally not. | ||
| Yeah, winning the lottery, we get it. | ||
| But the point is nothing you say would make them change their mind because they don't even know who you are. | ||
| It's not literally nothing. | ||
| Well, a lot of them are mentally ill, not just totally ignorant. | ||
| I mean, we know this from personal experiences when me and Tim were out in Germany during the biggest anti-fun meeting ever in history. | ||
| History recorded, and uh they took a picture of us standing next to uh nobody. | ||
| We were all walking in different it was like you, me, and Max, I think his name was. | ||
| Yes, Max and Marcus. | ||
| And then Lauren Southern was in the background walking a different direction. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that was enough to where they said, anyone in this photograph must be beaten. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Whether you were with Lauren or not. | ||
| And so they ended up beating, like, this is I want to make I want to make sure this is very very clear for everybody. | ||
| Sorry for interrupting you, but Marcus and Lauren Southern don't know each other. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And they attacked Marcus and tried stealing his camera because he was seen in the foreground of a photo. | ||
| She he was walking forward by himself. | ||
| She was in the background walking this the other direction. | ||
| So they attacked him. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| And Mark Marcus was an international journalist. | ||
| So is Max. | ||
| Max was working for uh the German mainstream media, and they still decided to single Them out, beat the crap out of them. | ||
| Max had to have knee surgery afterwards because they kept stomping him. | ||
| Luckily, I was able to get away with a few lumps, but still, it wasn't a pleasant scenario where they were literally following us throughout the entire city and then following us home as well. | ||
| Let me tell you how creepy these people are. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So when Lauren Southern was getting threatened, and we were like, maybe we should leave. | ||
| I said, I'm gonna go, I'm I'm done here. | ||
| Like, I don't want to stick around, it's getting dicey. | ||
| I'll go back with Lauren, make sure she makes it back to the to the apartment to the the Airbnb. | ||
| She was being hard-headed. | ||
| She was like, I'm not gonna leave or I'm gonna keep reporting. | ||
| I'm like, what are you doing? | ||
| Like, what are you doing? | ||
| You insane woman. | ||
| And I was like, I'm leaving, you can come. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| When we were leaving, people were tweeting our location as we walked through various neighborhoods. | ||
| So we're we're we're in a side street in Hamburg, Germany, not anywhere near any businesses or anything. | ||
| And we see two people ride back pass on bikes, the only people we saw. | ||
| And they look at us and turn their head like this at us as they go by. | ||
| And I'm like, uh, that was weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Next thing we know, following the hashtag on Twitter, citing Lauren Southern seeing at this intersection, I went, holy crap. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| So we went to a restaurant and we were like, let's just wait out inside. | ||
| This is they were they were regular people walking down the street, seeing us and then tweeting it. | ||
| That's how psychotic these Stepford wife cultists are in Germany. | ||
| And then they shut down the train systems by uh by blocking all the railroads. | ||
| Then they were shutting down the airport. | ||
| Then they then they were literally marching around just burning cars and stores as they pleased, as police officers literally were just like, yeah, we're not gonna do anything here. | ||
| That's the type of scenario that we were in, is we were literally waiting inside of our Airbnb, uh, trying to figure out if they figured out our location or not, because help wasn't coming. | ||
| You know the reason police wasn't gonna help you. | ||
| The reason I I would only make an appeal to people, the green shirts, the people that don't know on a show like this, is because there's something different about when you're in a the wisdom of a crowd, when they're in a crowd, I would never make an appeal to a crowd. | ||
| It's useless. | ||
| They they have mob mentality, but individuals that catch a clip on the news might hear something and be like, camera. | ||
| I'm not going to the next uh rally. | ||
| Sorry if the screen's green, not sorry. | ||
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I'll just I'll just scoot on in, T-Bone. | |
| To your point, though, about uh liberals, especially Antifa types being motivated by cash. | ||
| How many of those people do you think are paid activists? | ||
| Because I do feel that so much of this, are there real is this actually not it's not organic as the the left tries to paint it out to find organic. | ||
| I mean are people stupid, stupid people could be hired to do a lot of jobs. | ||
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And so's paying them. | |
| Uh simple answer, George Soros. | ||
| Yeah, let's get down to the bottom of the money. | ||
| They're investigating. | ||
| So the way it works is the was it the Open Society Foundation, yeah. | ||
| They make contributions to a bunch of NGOs. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| What those NGOs do is it's different. | ||
| So what ends up happening is when you want to simplify it for a conservative, and you say, George Soros is providing a lot of the funny, not all of it, but but uh but a piece of it to various NGOs, which finds its way into the hands of of these protesters. | ||
| The left then says, because it this doesn't actually help inform the average person, because then what you end up hearing is like on the ground during Occupy, people going, I wish I was getting a Soros check. | ||
| Two because you know, Hannity and Fox News are saying Soros was paying these protesters. | ||
| What actually happens is during Occupy Wall Street, there was a guy, a facilitator. | ||
| We call these the we were talking about this yesterday, the yellow. | ||
| There's green, yellow, and red. | ||
| Yellow organized, they're they're they could be targeted if people find out who they are. | ||
| Red engage in violence, and the green are the doofs. | ||
| They trick into coming by claiming that Radiohead is gonna play at Zuccotti Park. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| They literally did this. | ||
| They said Radiohead was doing a free show. | ||
| It was Radiohead, right, Luke? | ||
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| Radiohead was doing a free show at Occupy Wall Street. | ||
| Two thousand people showed up. | ||
| And then the yellow, they said, Mike, check. | ||
| Everyone knows Mike check. | ||
| Before Radiohead, we're gonna teach you guys about Occupy and then use it as an opportunity to indoctrinate once they were done. | ||
| They said, unfortunately, Radiohead's not coming. | ||
| Tricked everybody to get there. | ||
| So what happened? | ||
| So these people, they're paid to be there. | ||
| How? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No one says to them, go down and organize Occupy. | ||
| What happens is they work for a nonprofit that receives funding from a variety of sources. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Some of it probably USAID. | ||
| Uh like USAID will give money to various NGOs and foundations will give money to them. | ||
| They could be environmental nonprofits. | ||
| The boss, the the director of that office will say to the guy, you know what, man, why don't you take the day off? | ||
| You wanted to go hang out at Occupy Wall Street, right? | ||
| They sure could use an organizer. | ||
| Take the day off on me. | ||
| They go down there and they're supposed to be working a salaried position for the nonprofit. | ||
| They're still getting paid, but now they're organizing these protests, creating flyers, and getting people to show up. | ||
| And it's not really. | ||
| But money is fungible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So when they say, take the day off, so long as you're organizing occupy Wall Street, I'm okay with that. | ||
| They're getting paid to be there. | ||
| Regular people, people on the right can't quit their jobs and go do this stuff. | ||
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| That's why I like I see guys like Tim and Luke. | ||
| I mean, you've been dealing with these freaks for I mean, well over a decade now. | ||
| And I see this, and then you compare that and contrast that with sort of the commentary class on the right over the last 10 to 15 years, and they're just convinced they can principle their way out of this, just my principles. | ||
| And you two specifically, I mean, have been sounding the alarm on political violence now for a really long time, saying, nope, it's it's here. | ||
| It's it's real. | ||
| You two. | ||
| No, you guys. | ||
| Oh, you guys. | ||
| I was like, you two. | ||
| You two have been sounding alarmed like this is prevalent on the left. | ||
| And um, yeah, you know, you know what really bothers me is that no matter how many times I've said over the past few years, like okay. | ||
| To be fair, obviously the people watch this show agree with me to a great deal. | ||
| Not on everything, but I kept pointing out back 2018, these cops are communists. | ||
| They the the chief of police is appointed by a Democrat. | ||
| The Democrats don't like you. | ||
| And so we've learned this hard lesson when Proud Boys were sentenced to prison for four years after Antifa attacked them. | ||
| And this is not the first time we have seen the police target the innocent and let the criminals go. | ||
| It happens on a daily basis. | ||
| I keep hearing from conservatives, even recently saying, it's not the cops' fault, Tim. | ||
| It's the DAs who let him go. | ||
| Maybe now those naysayers watching Nick Sorter get arrested after they attacked him and Katie Daviswork got attacked and they would not arrest Antiva. | ||
| Maybe now you're like, oh, Tim was right the whole time. | ||
| Communists can get hired as cops all the same. | ||
| The Soviet Union had had police, okay? | ||
| All of the communist countries, China has police, and they are commies. | ||
| To your point, the what's sad about all this political violence is that this was laid out as early as the 70s. | ||
| And it it's crazy that it has taken our side so long to recognize what they're capable of. | ||
| The stuff has been laid out in Solinski's books. | ||
| They've been laid out in the weather underground, if you knew who those guys were. | ||
| And this stuff is just recycled, except now on a mass scale, I think. | ||
| And it's just like those the print those that was we've known about this. | ||
| And why has it gotten this bad? | ||
| And whose fault is it that we it has been emboldened? | ||
| And I think it's because we had the culture has changed significantly. | ||
| Well, I can give you a reason. | ||
| Let's jump to this story from the Hill. | ||
| Kavanaugh's attempted assassin sentenced to eight years in prison. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| He attempted to assassinate not just a sitting Supreme Court justice, but his family was threatened as well. | ||
| Eight years. | ||
| I mean, that's pretty wild. | ||
| So the message being sent with the assassination of Luigi Manja, I'm sorry, the assassination allegedly by Luigi Manjoni of Brian Thompson, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, and the attempted uh uh the attempt on Kavanaugh's life is that you're gonna get a slap on the wrist. | ||
| You are going to be venerated and praised. | ||
| So just a moment ago, you were mentioning the culture that brought us to this point. | ||
| You've got a variety of factors at play. | ||
| One, these these liberal judges live in a liberal world and they want people on the right assassinated. | ||
| Come on, I'm not playing stupid games anymore. | ||
| When they say to this guy you're free to go, okay, it's not literally eight years in prison, but for attempting to kill a sitting Supreme Court justice, that's insane. | ||
| There are people who are in prison longer than that for marijuana, just having pot. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And with good behavior, it might be just uh four years. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Yeah, so this judge Deborah uh Broadman, um, she's actually a Biden appointee. | ||
| Indeed, and she stated how she uh considered the fact that the suspect now identifies as a woman as a reason to lower the sentence. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| And he might even be in a woman's prison, which would be absolutely people who need to understand what time it is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We have two distinct identities in the United States. | ||
| The Democrats occupy the multicultural democracy, and everyone else occupies the constitutional republic. | ||
| Even Default libs are constitutional Republic people just don't know it. | ||
| So they end up marching in lockstep with these this weird cult. | ||
| Sometimes a lot of them don't, though. | ||
| Well, as of recently, there have there's been a sharp bifurcation with the assassination of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Many entrenched themselves, solidifying their position in the cult, and many others broke away. | ||
| And I predicted this. | ||
| I could be wrong because it's not like this thing, there's data to this, but basically what I'm seeing is what I expected to happen. | ||
| That is, many default libs were shocked by the killing and are s and are scared by it. | ||
| And so there have been prominent individuals who have been speaking out in support of Turning Point and for Charlie, despite being what you'd consider default libs. | ||
| They don't play attention to politics. | ||
| So I'm talking about celebrities, athletes, and otherwise. | ||
| However, a decent amount of of these people have gone hard at celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| So what my my view is, and my prediction for the next year is another I think there's going to be a terror attack or a major assassination within the next year. | ||
| And the reason is exactly this. | ||
| The right coalition has just expanded uh by double digits because of the assassination of Charlie Kirk scaring people. | ||
| But default libs, many of them entrenched themselves in the left cult. | ||
| So I'd look at it like maybe 50% are leaning right with a decent boost, and now you've got 30 some odd percent in the left camp, boosting their numbers from what was what was actually like 10% a decade ago to like 20 in the past several years. | ||
| These people have have basically entrenched themselves in the woke ideology cult, whatever you want to call it. | ||
| That means they are going to believe there's fascists taking over. | ||
| They are going to believe, like Gavin Newsom said, there will not be an election in 2028, and they are not going to accept Republicans winning. | ||
| With the killing of Charlie Kirk pushing a little bit of support towards the right, because it certainly didn't go the other way. | ||
| The Republicans probably have an edge to win in many now, many new locations, potentially in New Jersey, maybe not. | ||
| I'd estimate there's a strong probability that they actually survive the midterms, which would be shocking because usually it goes the other way. | ||
| If the Democrats are looking like they are going to lose in just shy of a year's time, I believe that the entrenched large size of this cult is going to get extremely violent. | ||
| Dude, I'm concerned about false flags, like a foreign operative making it look like they're part of this liberal cult, whatever, and doing another assassination attempt or because it'll break the country. | ||
| Right. | ||
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| I mean, if you look at the first civil war in America, there was other countries that were involved in it. | ||
| If there's going to be another civil war, you could bet your bottom dollar, China, Russia, Iran, North Korea. | ||
| Well, sorry, when you know, when the inevitable happens, um, I I think we're in a non-kinetic type of war, and we see that when people doubled down after the assassination of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| Today I I made a video and I said it's a non-kinetic. | ||
| Uh, yeah, yeah, non kinetic. | ||
| Um I I would argue that it it wasn't just the assassination of Charlie, but the response to it that really kind of woke people up to just how close we are to bedlam and utter chaos in our society. | ||
| And I think it really kind of ripped off the the the face and the mask of the establishment, and now people are finally seeing it to to be as horrendous as it is. | ||
| So this is a make or break moment for America that is going to be a key deciding factor to see where we're going from here. | ||
| But all signs point to more trouble. | ||
| I don't I don't see a uh a path away from this because the way I look at it, there are a lot of people that watch this show and watch my morning show, and I'm not right about everything, I'm wrong about a lot. | ||
| But the predictions that I have made have been um let's just let's just say it vaguely correct, right? | ||
| So the the the example that I often give is in September of 2020, I said if Trump loses in November, his supporters are gonna storm the White House. | ||
| They're gonna bust it down, they are not going to accept this. | ||
| I was told that I was crazy, paranoid, etc. | ||
| November came and went, nothing happened, and liberals made videos saying Tim Poole's crazy, he's a he's a conspiracy theorist. | ||
| Then January 6th happened. | ||
| These same liberals made videos saying Tim Poole had foreknowledge of January 6th. | ||
| They couldn't accept that. | ||
| No, I just saw the temperature and saw what was going to happen. | ||
| I wonder if the FBI did. | ||
| I wonder if the FBI watched your video and they're like, all right, let's use this projection to do it. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The point is this. | ||
| That's sick. | ||
| There is a river all around us. | ||
| We are not the biggest show in the world, nor do we reach the most People. | ||
| And while many people watch the show for a long time and probably have probably been saying, I think Tim is actually right about the path that we're on. | ||
| Convincing you guys doesn't change the direction of the river. | ||
| So right now, where we're at is we are cognizant of what is happening. | ||
| We have been cognizant of it for seven years, and there's little we can do to stop it. | ||
| Well, there's sort of an and let the point is this. | ||
| Dana White gave an interview where he said, I don't like cancel culture. | ||
| People shouldn't lose their jobs for what they're saying about Charlie Kirk. | ||
| That is the perfect example of why nothing will stop this. | ||
| Now, maybe I'm wrong because I'm only vague like I say I'm vaguely correct. | ||
| I'm obviously nobody stormed the White House in November, but you get how I was kind of close to it. | ||
| Dana White gave us a great example of prominent, moderate individuals who support Trump do not understand what they are supporting. | ||
| When Dana White says we should allow people to celebrate the assassination of Charlie Kirk, he's saying, I'm not really involved in politics, I'm for free speech. | ||
| A society where it's most prominent business magnates and personalities defend the right to celebrate assassinations is a society headed down the path of Rwanda, which is exactly what happened when people would go on the radio and on the TV and say, other tribes, I think it was the Tootsie's, right? | ||
| The other tribe are a bunch of demonic evil and they got to be purged and killed and mocking them and laughing. | ||
| And then finally one day people woke up and said, okay, we're doing it, and started massacring the other tribe. | ||
| We have opened the door to civil war because we celebrated I don't say we, but this country defended the right of people to go on social media and go on TV and defend the assassination of Brian Thompson. | ||
| Less than a year later, Charlie Kirk was assassinated, and the left is still celebrating it, sending the message that if you're a liberal and you try to kill somebody, worst case scenario, you'll get a slap on the wrist. | ||
| Eight years maybe if you're caught. | ||
| If you are and you go to jail, you they will make sainthood candles for you. | ||
| They will celebrate you and praise you. | ||
| We recently saw a comedy show at a university where in their thank you at the portion at the end, it said Charlie Kirk's killer. | ||
| So when Dana White says this must be allowed, cancel culture is bad, he has said green light for 50 million people in this country to create an economy based on murdering your political opponents. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's like you want to irrigate a canal, he's like, just open the damn floodgates. | ||
| We need the water in the canal. | ||
| Like, bro, there's a way to irrigate the canal. | ||
| We obviously we need free speech, but you also have to be just about how you allow society to warp people's minds. | ||
| Like, but here's the thing about prediction. | ||
| And I've been thinking a lot about are we predicting the future or are we creating the future? | ||
| Like if if I go on TV and say there's gonna be a party on Friday at that place, and then all these people hear it, and they're like, oh, and then they all show up. | ||
| I just manifested a party. | ||
| I didn't even so if you say there's going to be a civil war, people are like, oh, oh, and then they all show up. | ||
| Except for the fact that the entire time people have been largely laughing and saying it's never gonna happen. | ||
| I just there is a there is a nuance between telling people get ready and get the be prepared and be there. | ||
| Uh it's sort of so there's like a fine line, you know what? | ||
| You don't want to be fake, and you don't want to say everything's like. | ||
| The people who are watching the show are not going out in the streets with guns and assassinating people, but other people that might be afraid of you, you know, people that hear you and they're like, really? | ||
| He thinks, okay, I'm ready. | ||
| Like, I will say from the political side of things that yes, it does in a way, it it does embolden people when they get a slap on the wrist. | ||
| At the same time, though, I do believe that it wakes up a lot of people who have been silent. | ||
| There is a sleeping giant in this country. | ||
| We saw it in this last election, I believe, that people finally got involved. | ||
| And as uh, you know, a candidate and things like that, we get sometimes it's like you want people to be able to get involved into the process because so many people are not. | ||
| But now, because of everything that's been going on, all the hate that's happening, reasonably minded people on both sides of the aisle look at this. | ||
| I think there are a lot of reasonable Democrats that look at the assassination on Charlie Kirk and horrific things that happened to conservatives. | ||
| I think I want to believe, and I truly believe, and the data does show that people are waking up, and there is still this sense of Americanism that whoa, this is not how who we are as Americans. | ||
| We are not the people of Rwanda. | ||
| This is we have values and virtue in this country, and I do believe that we are seeing the change because so many people are getting involved in the political process. | ||
| You know, I I just maybe anecdotally, but I get messages all the time that are like, hey, look, I'm sick of sitting on the sidelines. | ||
| I want to help out. | ||
| I want to get involved. | ||
| I want to run for office. | ||
| I I'm not afraid to speak out anymore. | ||
| And so I think for every time that we are, we're living through these really rough times, we do all have a choice though of what our country what what do we want the country to look like? | ||
| This is still our country at the end of the day. | ||
| And there is still a lot of Americanism there that I think is the guiding light to the future. | ||
| Do you think there's an off-ramp? | ||
| And what's the off-ramp to the kind of collision course that we we are in now? | ||
| I think I'm more maybe I'm an idealist. | ||
| I'm a little bit more optimistic. | ||
| I do look, our country has gone through so many more hard times. | ||
| You look at the Civil War, you look at World War II. | ||
| Like we, yes, we have lived in our own gilded age in a in a sense. | ||
| We're now seeing chaos and and all that. | ||
| However, our country has survived tremendous trials. | ||
| And how we survive them were moments like this where we all did come together and we did revive of what it meant, the revival of what it meant to be an American. | ||
| And I do believe, I still believe that everybody, even on our worst day, we are still the greatest country in the world, and we will turn this around, but it takes everybody to get involved. | ||
| It takes people to stop sipping on their, you know, Starbucks lasse and just pretending like everything's fine. | ||
| You have to get involved. | ||
| And and it and I always say this, it will become personal to everybody. | ||
| If it hasn't become personal to you yet, it will become personal. | ||
| Uh whether that is the transgender movement or whether it's illegal immigration, all these policy issues that this enemy within has created in our country. | ||
| One day it will get personal to people. | ||
| And when it gets personal to enough people, are enough people gonna stand up and say this is not this is not where we're what we're gonna do anymore. | ||
| So no, we're screwed. | ||
| Well, yeah, because it's like I do agree we've been through some tough times as a country, but I think the problem was in the 60s and 70s, like you mentioned with weather underground and this sort of leftist paramilitaries that we saw. | ||
| So we never actually sufficiently beat them. | ||
| I mean, you saw like Bill Ayers and um Bernadine Dorn like advising like you know, modern liberals and these sorts of things, the Obamas. | ||
| And so it's like I agree, but it's part of the problem we're dealing with now is that we never actually sort of successfully put these people away when we had the chance, you know, 50 years ago. | ||
| And now we're having to deal with it again. | ||
| And now I mean, like to Tim's point, we're going into a midterms that look like it's gonna be favorable for the Republicans. | ||
| Um they're losing access to a lot of funding. | ||
| So they're back into a corner. | ||
| So it's not even a prediction, it's just math. | ||
| Prediction markets still favor Democrats. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But we'll see in the world. | ||
| So they're gonna they feel demoralized if you'll back into a corner. | ||
| The prediction market says Democrats are gonna take the majority of the house. | ||
| The only thing that that happens every time. | ||
| The only way that happens, though, we have such a slim majority, and this is why everybody who's listening has to get involved because we have such a slim majority. | ||
| If the Democrats do win, we will not be able to pass anything from the Trump agenda, which has been remarkably better than obviously the Biden administration. | ||
| But the reason for that is because normally in these off-cycle years, Republicans, the people who who we rely on, sometimes unfortunately don't come out. | ||
| And so it costs a ton of money to get people to get out and vote because sometimes we become complacent. | ||
| I don't think that that's gonna be the case this now, especially after everything that's been going on. | ||
| There has been this was a mandate that happened uh with the re-election of President Trump. | ||
| So much bad happened prior to that that I think people now understood the cost and the consequences of not waking up. | ||
| And so I think that we are gonna take the house back, but it takes again the silent majority to get up to knock doors, to volunteer, to contribute. | ||
| Everybody has a a skill set or everybody has a role in this movement to make sure that we do win the house. | ||
| Keep the house. | ||
| Is that why you're running? | ||
| Like what got you're running right now in Florida? | ||
| Yes, I am. | ||
| What's what happened? | ||
| How'd you get started? | ||
| Uh so I have obviously been in politics for quite some time now, and I my original inspiration I always say was AOC, because I look at somebody like that and I looked at how there weren't enough people on the Republican side Speaking out against women like her and other these young women who were completely manipulating so many minds, especially of the younger generation. | ||
| And I'm like, why don't we have a countervoice to a lot of these people? | ||
| And so I was honored to be able to, you know, have a get a lot of support in my candidacy. | ||
| And now that we're running in Florida, you know, people are really fed up. | ||
| They want people who actually care about them. | ||
| And we have even on both sides of the aisle, we've had people in Congress who are not working for the people. | ||
| You know, you see it unfortunately sometimes on the Republican side. | ||
| And it's time that we bring back servant leadership. | ||
| It's time we bring back a representative democracy, which is what we were founded upon. | ||
| Are our your Congressperson is supposed to care about you? | ||
| They are supposed to be a lion for your values and a voice in Washington for you. | ||
| And so for so long, people have been fed up about that. | ||
| I feel like Thomas Massey is doing that, but it's like when you have 700,000 people that you have to represent, I can that even function. | ||
| Like I represent me. | ||
| I can't really represent Tate because he's too awesome. | ||
| Um and I don't know what he's thinking at night. | ||
| You know, I don't know, I can't I can't get into your brains, people, and I don't want to. | ||
| We shouldn't be brain tapping each other. | ||
| So what how do you stand where do you stand on the Thomas Massey issue? | ||
| Are you with Massey or are you against Massey? | ||
| You know, ultimately, uh it's up for his constituency to decide. | ||
| That's not for, you know, I I do I do agree with some of what uh in the past, especially, but I'm a little bit more pragmatic when it comes to everything that's going on from a political perspective. | ||
| You know, there are a lot of quote unquote hills to die on in politics, and sometimes it's better that we do remain united uh as a party in a lot of ways, because when you break out into these factions, which is what Republicans sometimes do because we're just more individualist thinking, you know, the left always stays together. | ||
| They mass organize, they're they're unified all the time. | ||
| I'm not saying that we should, you know, be like them. | ||
| However, I am saying that we have to be, we need to be a party that is on the same page. | ||
| If not, if we are not, if we are divided as a party, then that allows the subversion of the Democrats to be able to infiltrate our party, but also to then be the stronger, to then rebuild and be strong, and then they do what they do. | ||
| And so I think ultimately it's up to his constituency um to decide uh on on how they feel. | ||
| And that's how, you know, ultimately it should play out. | ||
| I feel like with the Epstein style, he's going hard on like release the Epstein files. | ||
| That it's he thinks this is what my people want. | ||
| I don't care about the Republican Party. | ||
| I don't care about the federal government. | ||
| I'm representing 700,000 people. | ||
| They want the files, so I'm gonna vote to do it. | ||
| And it's like it does kind of break away from you know the party in some ways, because a lot of people are like, hey, I think we're using this data as blackmail against the deep state right now. | ||
| Don't unleash it. | ||
| That's what uh Alex Jones said last night. | ||
| Um let's not unleash it because we're using it. | ||
| Um, but like he's adhering to this people, like so and the people aren't all on the same page. | ||
| You know, people in Kentucky are different than people in Florida and Colorado, wherever you're coming from. | ||
| Anyway, I guess the tap it off. | ||
| I I get concerned about people marching in lockstep, but I understand your point that if you don't, someone else might. | ||
| Yeah, look, at the end of the day, you have to always be as a representative, you have to do what what you're there because of the people. | ||
| You don't send somebody to Washington because, oh, well, I this is the way I feel about something, which is unfortunately we have too many narcissistic politicians that go to Washington. | ||
| They not only not vote for what their constituency wants, they also are sitting there insider trading, doing whatever they want. | ||
| They never get, you know, they're never held accountable because they always get re-elected, whatever that might be. | ||
| At the end of the day, you should do what matters for your district. | ||
| Right now, the economy is huge. | ||
| Uh, thank God we have President Trump turning things around from an economic perspective. | ||
| The border crisis was, I mean, the everything that was happening in our country was destroying it. | ||
| And and Biden did destroy our country in such a short amount of time. | ||
| We're now trying to reverse that in the Trump administration. | ||
| And so ultimately, to your point, we have to be in lax up from the president. | ||
| I think he is the commander-in-chief. | ||
| He was historically re-elected. | ||
| We need to be delivering on his agenda, which is what the people historically from a mandate perspective voted for. | ||
| So if Massey's uh order comes down to uh release the Epstein list, where do you vote on that? | ||
| I would First of all, I would appreciate that what someone like Massey should do, and what I think what most representatives should do. | ||
| Why don't you take a poll of what matters in your in your district? | ||
| Why don't you take a poll for what your constituency wants? | ||
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And so you have to vote yes or no on the petition. | |
| It's it's it's kind of hard to organize a scientific poll that will reach enough people in time when these things get introduced. | ||
| Like we know that Massey's been working on it for a while, so it does make sense to be like, Oh, I'm gonna set up a poll in my district, but sometimes you might get something that could move through in like a week. | ||
| Some big political thing happens, and they say we're gonna draft a bill on this, get it introduced by next week, it should be done. | ||
| You're not gonna be able to organize any meaningful poll. | ||
| And any poll that you organize would easily be exploited by people who want to trick you into voting the wrong way. | ||
| Well, and most policies though, let's not forget, are not clean bills. | ||
| I mean, half of this stuff, you have stacks of paper to your point, you have to read over you know uh uh 10 hours, but it's not really straightforward. | ||
| Have you read through Massey's the massive Massy and Rokana, I think? | ||
| No, I haven't. | ||
| Uh I think it's I think it's pretty good. | ||
| It the initial bill that was put forward by Rokhana, I heavily criticized because it would require the release of all the evidence, which includes videos of children. | ||
| And so I said this is a trap. | ||
| Democrats put forward something they know Republicans can't vote on. | ||
| Rocana then I interviewed him and he said, Okay, you you're right about that. | ||
| That was not my intention. | ||
| I appreciate you bringing it up. | ||
| I appreciate that you brought it up. | ||
| We're gonna change it. | ||
| So he and Massey got together and they drifted a very, very simple, I think it's like two pages, very clean. | ||
| Release what of the Epstein's uh information that you can without exposing any ongoing investigations, evidence, you know, uh that that would depict, you know, children and women meaning trafficked. | ||
| So I I think uh his bill actually looks pretty good. | ||
| Um Trump has not given us a real reason as to why he does not want it released. | ||
| So were I to be in Congress, I would vote for it to be released. | ||
| What about you? | ||
| Yes or no? | ||
| I'd like to look at the bill. | ||
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I'm not gonna comment on anything until I've seen the the actual bill because if you have an option to release the Epstein list, but Trump tells you no, what do you do? | |
| I'm not gonna I mean I haven't seen this bill. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| Just in general, like would you release the Epstein files in a way that made sense to you, even if Trump didn't want to do that? | ||
| I think it matters of what your people want. | ||
| You're not sitting there. | ||
| I think sometimes there's so much sensationalism that happens in politics, and ultimately, like why why are why don't we if the constituency wants something to be passed when it comes to economics, the border, things that the kitchen table issues, why are we focused? | ||
| Why don't we focus on that instead of at the end of the day trying to be sensationalist? | ||
| And I'm not saying that this particular situation is sensationalist. | ||
| However, I from overwhelming conversations on the ground, I will tell you the majority of people are focusing on how they can feed their families, uh, why they can't afford homes, uh, what's going on in our district when it comes to hurricanes. | ||
| Those are those are things that really matter to the the constituency and set up some of these people that look at Twitter and things like that. | ||
| And I'm not saying I'm not minimizing it on the internet. | ||
| But you have to vote when you're in the present or you know, you don't show up, right? | ||
| But the issue is that Trump has handled this so miserably that it's actually inflamed the issue. | ||
| There was uh and Dan Bongino and Cash and Pam have handled this miserably. | ||
| And I consider them uh uh Cash and Dan to be well, Cash is a friend. | ||
| Dan, I I know a little bit, he's a good dude. | ||
| I respect him. | ||
| They're they're they're they're friends of the show. | ||
| Um they've handled this so poorly, they have made it an issue. | ||
| Yeah, and I wonder why that is. | ||
| And then Donald Trump says it's a hoax. | ||
| I don't know why that is, and now I'm kind of like yeah, I'm not playing any games. | ||
| This is weird. | ||
| Um Dan Bangino could have come out and said one very simple thing that would have made this put the story to rest like that, if he looked into the camera and he said, Guys, we're working on this Epstein investigation. | ||
| You can trust me on this one. | ||
| It may take some time, but we're gonna get to the bottom of this one. | ||
| Please just be patient. | ||
| Story gone. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Instead, they come out and they're like, There's nothing here, it never happened. | ||
| Donald Trump comes out, it's a hoax, and now we're all going, does he want this to be the biggest trending story in the world? | ||
| Because this don't make sense. | ||
| Yep, no blackmail, he totally took his own life, nothing to see here. | ||
| Don't talk about it. | ||
| You're a weakling if you do, which is just absolutely absurd. | ||
| I'm like anybody who sat down for 10 seconds of marketing 101 would have been like, here's what you do. | ||
| Say if you want to make this the biggest trending story, say this. | ||
| And then they went, You got it, went out on TV and said everything they said. | ||
| I I I think there's a lot of internal pressure from the Intel agencies telling them you're not gonna talk about this, and that's it. | ||
| And I think that really shows us the true structure of power in Washington, DC, because it also highlights how it's not just Trump who's in charge here, someone clearly else is. | ||
| Trump previously helped out the victims. | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's been some actual reporting behind the scenes that the issue is, and I think this makes the most sense, because this is what I was arguing beforehand. | ||
| It's not so much that he's using this against the deep state or whatever. | ||
| That's wishful thing and mega side. | ||
| But even if he is, that's evil. | ||
| But it's not what he's doing. | ||
| What it is is that as we already saw with the news saying that Elon Musk was named in it. | ||
| It's bad for the stock of these companies to even have your name in any way in it, even if it passively mentions your name. | ||
| There are people who associate with Epstein but didn't go to the island who are going to be named in this these documents as having traveled with Epstein or partied with him. | ||
| And Trump, my understanding is the reporting was Trump said it's going to hurt a lot of people. | ||
| A lot of people are going to get hurt who didn't do anything wrong, and that's why he doesn't want to put it out. | ||
| Yeah, but we have discernment as American citizens. | ||
| And if you're associated, and if you actually did horrible things, you should be held accountable, especially when you do them to children. | ||
| And this precedent of saying, Yeah, you could hurt children, but if you're powerful enough, you'll we'll we'll let you get away with this. | ||
| That's not what was said. | ||
| The reporting behind the scenes is that there are people like Elon Musk, who was reportedly named in the Epstein files. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because at some point he he crossed path at a party with Epstein. | ||
| The argument is the files are going to come out. | ||
| It's not going to expose who you want it to, but it's going to have names in it of people who have worked like in some way with Epstein or financed him, unbeknownst to them, he was doing these things. | ||
| That's the argument. | ||
| Well, the I think it's null and void. | ||
| I think it's null and void because the documents have already been released that that Elon's in there, Peter Thiel's in there. | ||
| But there's also, as Elon said specifically, major left-wing backers. | ||
| We're talking about uh Bill Gates. | ||
| We're talking about Bill Clinton being on the plane that's children or being hurt in the back, which Bon Gino was talking about years ago. | ||
| Why I'm in favor, and I would agree with Massey and say we should vote to release these things. | ||
| And I put the responsibility on Trump and his team for failing this miserably. | ||
| Do you think that was right, though, from the media perspective to include Elon in that particular article that they did where he specifically fought back and said, This is ridiculous. | ||
| They tried to paint him as this the villain of this story when that wasn't the reality. | ||
| So I I talked about this latest release, and it was heavily biased against Republicans. | ||
| And I said, This is why Trump needs to release it because the Democrats picked out Steve Bannon, they picked out Peter Theo, they picked out Elon Musk. | ||
| Those people should have some answers, but there's other people that were also involved here that are major Democratic donors, major big players. | ||
| And for some reason, we're protecting Bill Clinton, who, according to two sources, knew children were being hurt and was there and was an accomplice to the crime. | ||
| Why protect Bill Clinton? | ||
| It's completely obvious. | ||
| The Epstein files are going to implicate people that are important to Donald Trump for whatever reason. | ||
| He doesn't care if they did good, bad, or otherwise. | ||
| The right wants to win a war against the Democrats. | ||
| Trump doesn't want to allow them in any way to gain power. | ||
| And I gotta be honest, I'm terrified of the of them gaining power. | ||
| I'm in favor of releasing these documents, but again, Trump is saying nothing to see here because he wants power and doesn't want Democrats to get power. | ||
| But he's losing so much political capital and power by doing so. | ||
| Yes, he is. | ||
| Absolutely he is. | ||
| No one else really cares. | ||
| This will affect the midterms, in my opinion. | ||
| It will I doubt it. | ||
| There's a lot of people that are libertarians that never voted in this last election. | ||
| They only voted for him that were in the middle because he came out and his staff came out and said we're gonna release everything. | ||
| Barely anyone's talked about Epstein's career. | ||
| Because you guys are you're completely you're completely discounting the fact that the average American person again, we have huge crises happen that were happening that were now being solved by this administration. | ||
| There is more when when you have a family that couldn't afford groceries, you have seniors on fixed income, you have families who whose children have been killed by illegal immigrants. | ||
| There are things that are. | ||
| Yeah, there's children also being abused. | ||
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There's children being hurt and abused in the thousands of people. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's they don't have to be a good thing. | ||
| So you're saying so you're saying some there's someone has a hard time with Bill So thousands of children getting their beers like that. | ||
| Cathy with the Kathy Newman, the so you're saying argument? | ||
| No. | ||
| I'm saying we should have these documents released. | ||
| Trump has botched this miserably. | ||
| However, the obvious reason why Trump is withholding them is because he wants to maximize political power by any means to go up against the deep state. | ||
| He doesn't I disagree with that. | ||
| I think that's an assertion. | ||
| I think that's very favorable. | ||
| I think we disagree about it. | ||
| I think that's very favorable thinking. | ||
| I think that's giving him the benefit of that. | ||
| That's giving him favorable thinking. | ||
| He could change. | ||
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He could change protecting the political landscape of the city. | |
| Because the pedos haven't been held accountable. | ||
| Because there's pedos who hurt children who are still out there. | ||
| Why does that benefit Trump? | ||
| That the pedos are still out there? | ||
| I have no fucking clue. | ||
| Because he gets stuff from them. | ||
| Because they give him money. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not sure. | ||
| Because he uses that. | ||
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| Because he wants to defeat the deep state and doesn't care what evil things he does to get it. | ||
| Well, now you're making an argument that it's okay that children were hurt here for political. | ||
| I'm saying the obvious motivation that Trump has as administration is he doesn't want these people to get back in power. | ||
| He doesn't want to go to prison. | ||
| He doesn't want his friends and lawyers to go to prison, and he doesn't care how he wins. | ||
| When when you are talking about war, they say all is fair and love in war. | ||
| And so there's a simple motivation. | ||
| Trump says there's a lot of powerful people in there who are gonna get hurt by this. | ||
| And what does that mean? | ||
| It means he's probably getting something from them in some capacity. | ||
| Donations, resources, or otherwise, and he wants to use that. | ||
| And whatever that means. | ||
| Or at bare minimum, he fears that if his release will cause damage to someone like Bill Gates who may actually do something that benefits. | ||
| I wonder if when he went to Ghilaine in prison and she and he was like, okay, first she came out and said Trump never did anything on tort, and then they moved her to minimum security. | ||
| I wonder if she gave him the other part of the puzzle, so now he has all the info for the blackmail. | ||
| Favorable treatment for Ghlaine Maxwell also is a very bad look here. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Uh editing the footage, also a very bad look here. | ||
| Lying to the American people, treating us like we're stupid is a very bad look here. | ||
| If that's the actual case here, they should just say it. | ||
| That's like, listen, this this country's run on blackmail. | ||
| This is what's happening here, and they used it against us, so we're gonna use it. | ||
| So that's what should have been said here. | ||
| Do you believe that there is a current political war between the left and the right? | ||
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Of course. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And an intel agency war as well. | ||
| That also has them involved. | ||
| What do you think will happen if that's a thrive off of blackmail? | ||
| If what's gonna happen? | ||
| What do you think will happen if Democrats win back power? | ||
| They're gonna do what they always did. | ||
| Like what? | ||
| Um they're going to uh they're not gonna win the presidency. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
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I'm saying, why wasn't it released when they were on the ask the question? | |
| What happens when they win the Congress, when they win the House, the Senate, and the presidency? | ||
| What will they do? | ||
| Um probably I was gonna make an argument about Ukraine, but what Trump's already kind of being egregious about Ukraine. | ||
| So what are they gonna um try to implement uh socialism? | ||
| They're gonna open the border to 20 to 40 million more illegal immigrants. | ||
| They're going to finalize the criminal charges against Trump, which are still pending, arrest him and put him in prison. | ||
| They're gonna go after his lawyers, they're gonna arrest Bannon. | ||
| They are going to go after everyone like they did the J6ers. | ||
| They they they have shown us that they are capable, willing, and they will do it. | ||
| This is not a defense of Trump's handling of the Epstein files, because my position is Massey and Rokana are correct in doing this. | ||
| I also, however, recognize the underlying motivation that Trump has in almost everything he does is to make sure that he defeats the Democrats and they never regain power. | ||
| Hence, mass deportations and instructing his DOJ to go after these ballot harvesting schemes and mail-in ballots. | ||
| If we defeat them there, they will not regain power in this current form. | ||
| Democrats may win in the future if their party changes and they actually start getting rid of the law fair. | ||
| But I believe, based on what we've already seen, like the arrest of Steve Bannon, like the arrest of Trump's lawyers in multiple states, the false criminal charges, the false rape uh civil uh case, the false uh fraud case in New York, the raid on his home, the 20-year sentences for Proud Boys who weren't even in DC at the time. | ||
| If Democrats win again, they will do everything to destroy you and me and everyone else. | ||
| So that being said, Trump has mishandled this, and by his mishandling, and Dan and Cash and Pam, there is no other position but sorry, guys. | ||
| Rokana, Massey, roll. | ||
| Well, I just think that's a position of you just passed you have the blackmail, so let's use it. | ||
| I mean, I understand that position. | ||
| That's not necessarily what he's doing. | ||
| I think a lot of people make that argument, and it's entirely possible. | ||
| I'm giving a much more simple argument in that collateral damage will hit powerful business magnates that provide resources to Republicans in some way. | ||
| If you deserve to fail because of your associations to predators and your association to hurting children and going to islands where children were hurt, you deserve to fail. | ||
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I don't think that's the same thing. | |
| And I think those institutions need to fail. | ||
| Those need institutions need to be held accountable. | ||
| And guess what? | ||
| The economy's gonna be the economy's already a Ponzi's. | ||
| I don't care about the economy. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| Do you think any uh top level democrat democrats were involved in child trafficking? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Do you think they will increase that when they win again? | ||
| What do you mean increase justice? | ||
| Do you think they will bring back Epstein Island once they're back in power? | ||
| There's probably already a second one already. | ||
| And who you think is running it? | ||
| The CIA. | ||
| Do you think when these people have have power of law behind them again, it will get worse? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Welcome to war. | ||
| There is no easy answer. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| We know that if they get power, it's gonna go 100fold because we know that they were trafficking kids trafficking kids at the border, and Trump put a stop to this. | ||
| It is not easy. | ||
| Yeah, Luke, why aren't you more passionate about the thousands of little kids that get sex trafficked and labor trafficked and the southern border? | ||
| Complete silence about everything that happened in the invasion. | ||
| But there was no complete silence. | ||
| I was actually talking about that alone. | ||
| Okay, but then how come why well, why isn't the focus also on the horrific things that happen? | ||
| And and this I will say that. | ||
| That doesn't excuse thousands of children being put on islands and hurt here. | ||
| That doesn't excuse that, right? | ||
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But it is very sensational. | |
| You have a government that is not currently trafficking children. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| They have evidence that some people did. | ||
| If the evidence and it's hypothetical, I'm not saying it's literally what's happening. | ||
| If the evidence is released, that political party loses power to sex traffickers. | ||
| Those sex traffickers will get into office and then traffic children. | ||
| Is that preferable for you? | ||
| Uh I don't think that's gonna happen. | ||
| I don't think that's a likely scenario. | ||
| It's called a conditional hypothetical. | ||
| Can you answer it? | ||
| Yeah, if you give me that hypothetical, sure, I guess, but I don't think it's probable at all. | ||
| I don't think that's a realistic exposing the predators in our society who are still out there walking in the streets hurting more children now as we speak because they have the means and the ways and the money and the influence to do so, and we excuse that as a country is is is something that of course we voted against this last election. | ||
| We were promised justice. | ||
| We were promised by libertarians. | ||
| We were going to actually hold these powerful people accountable who pull the strings in Washington, DC, that they were finally gonna have a reckoning because we're gonna stop them from being lawless, right? | ||
| We were gonna say we're gonna be a la a country of law and order, right? | ||
| So you're taking the you're taking the position you're you're taking the deontological position. | ||
| It doesn't matter if a million people die based on your actions, if your actions save one person. | ||
| That's the deontological approach. | ||
| You're playing all this hypothetical. | ||
| No, it's called scenarios. | ||
| You're saying if we release the Epstein list, Democrats are gonna win. | ||
| I'm saying that's not what's gonna happen. | ||
| What was the hypothetical again? | ||
| This is a trolley a classic trolley problem. | ||
| Right now, the reporting that we have is that Trump doesn't want to damage his resources behind the scene by by exposing them in the Epstein files. | ||
| We don't know that that's the case. | ||
| So once again, I am in favor of Thomas Massey and Rocano's resolution to release it because Trump and his team have have mishandled this. | ||
| And I'm not saying it is definitive that this keeps Trump in office. | ||
| I am bringing up the point that you have an absolutist approach where you're saying it doesn't matter what happens, do it anyway. | ||
| Yes, because of how egregious all the crimes are. | ||
| If you pull the trolley lever, you will kill a million people, and if you leave it where it is, you kill one. | ||
| Yes, but that's not related to the You're saying pull the lever. | ||
| I'm I'm saying pull the lever where we actually have a government that represents us, and is it run on blackmail, which we deserve. | ||
| I actually think right now, for the most part, we don't. | ||
| I think the Trump administration winning has routed the deep state in numerous ways and it's exemplified every day in the action, especially with Comey being indicted. | ||
| And the the pardons of J Sixers. | ||
| And and don't forget, uh, every day Cash and Dan are locking up predators, and it's one of their biggest focus. | ||
| It's a big focus of theirs that the Democrats didn't have. | ||
| What are the reasons why a lot of people have these Charlie conspiracy theories is because the FBI has lost all trust and legitimacy. | ||
| And they're saying that the FBI lied to us about Epstein. | ||
| They're probably lying to us about Charlie right now. | ||
| Agree. | ||
| So they're spreading the the theory. | ||
| We all agree here that they've mishandled the Epstein. | ||
| But all of this, though, we have to also remember that that that sentiment from the American people didn't start in the last, you know, four years or or whatever. | ||
| Like this has been a long time. | ||
| Look at JFK. | ||
| I mean, this and that's fine to ask questions. | ||
| I don't, you know, I don't want to live in this world where you can't ask questions and and you can't be passionate about what you what you believe in and all this stuff, but at the same time, so that sentiment didn't happen, you know, over the last just because of this FBI and this administration. | ||
| This stuff has been going on, if not worse. | ||
| Like I actually I trust I trust these guys. | ||
| Like I let I trust my president. | ||
| I trust this FBI and doing what they need to be doing. | ||
| Do you think they told you the truth about the Epstein list? | ||
| I think that we're not going to be able to do that. | ||
| Yes or no did they tell you the truth. | ||
| It's not as simple but you're talking about like legislation. | ||
| You're talking about it. | ||
| No, I'm asking you a question. | ||
| When Trump says it's a Democrat coke believe them. | ||
| That we here at this table we we are not privy to. | ||
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Now it's not a Democrat hoax. | |
| He doesn't know he does not handle this. | ||
| Yeah and I think like Trump is also just he he gets really frustrated with people that aren't trusting the plan. | ||
| I know it sounds like a little cliche but it's true and and to be fair to to Trump's point is after the Epstein thing was completely botched, which I mean I'm a Trump guy I'm fully I'm fully willing to admit what it was not handled very well. | ||
| Polling didn't really budge. | ||
| Like the vast majority of Americans are not online. | ||
| They're watching Fox News if you watch Fox News that's why Bondi and Trump are so confused over why there's a segment of the right that doesn't that isn't political sees this and I think if you if they did you would see it in the polling you live in you live in an arco libertarian Bitcoin world. | ||
| We've gone over the polling on the show like 700 times. | ||
| I live in Miami. | ||
| That's where I live coin world and I and I see a portion of the voter base that decided to vote for for the first time and that base and and a lot of Americans even Americans that aren't politically inclined have been talking about this and this is an issue and this is an issue that's very important for a lot of people. | ||
| But it's not important enough for any major pollster to actually consider in a campaign. | ||
| Who's doing all the polls people who have uh still uh uh landlined and are picking up their phones you are completely wrong about it talking about his his team I'm talking about as consultants people like Charlie Kirk what what he was doing and I'm talking about people like Alex Brusowitz Charlie Kirk's behind the scenes was saying release the Epstein list and I agree with that my point is this is not a principal issue for Americans and the polling shows that they mostly don't know what it is. | ||
| Why was Charlie Kirk then behind the scenes trying to work with Donald Trump to release the list right he saw this as an important issue because the young people did believe that this was a duration Luke. | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
| I think when it comes to Congress and things like that, I think your constituents, their will should matter with something like this. | ||
| So I don't know about the influencer world and all this stuff. | ||
| If people are working behind the scenes, I think ultimately when it comes to like legislation and things like that, again, if it's something that your people are asking about and all that, then okay. | ||
| And then you have conversations, but you don't just sit there and look at what Twitter is saying. | ||
| And there's a lot of BS out there. | ||
| And I'm not saying that this situation is entirely BS, but there's a lot out there that a lot of it is driven by sensationalism and by... | ||
| by the way the Democrats love this they love when this we gotta jump to this stop giving them weapons just really quick release their list or not yes or not gonna I'm like there's no you're trying like I'm not sure if I'm gonna get a clear you stand on this I'm not gonna I'm not gonna fall for that like that's that's a stupid like trying gotcha question. | ||
| I'm not gonna I'm not gonna it's just I've come to think like I trust cash to lie about the right things and sometimes you use evil to create order and that's how the world has always been and sometimes you just do it. | ||
| I mean if you know I think the only answer you could actually have is I'm not sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because not giving an answer people are gonna accuse you of running you know sniffing Trump's ass or whatever. | ||
| But if if if the honest answer is honestly I'm not sure I want to see what my well I want to I would want to see what the people my constituency would want. | ||
| Yeah if I got to move we're gonna jump to the next story instead of uh arguing all day four hours on that from the Blaze.com China behind massive nationwide sim farm uh sim farm network that directly threatens American critical infrastructure and uh low um they were attacking me personally you're in the story China launched a international uh attack on critical American infrastructure and personnel is which included me this is pretty crazy | ||
| uh this is wild uh so the discovery of sim farms that threaten cellular networks in New York City is only the tip of the massive nationwide network run by Chinese communist government that poses an immediate threat to critical infrastructure and has led to terrorist attacks including hoax SWAT raids at the homes of national leaders Blaze knew uh Blaze News has learned so DHS located this. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| There's tons of them. | ||
| Check this out. | ||
| They say this is uh it's absolutely an act of war, according to a top uh intelligence official speaking with Blaze uh Blaze News, a direct threat to our nation and needs to be shut down today like ASAP. | ||
| Only five of them have been taken down so far. | ||
| Uh let me just read where where let me let me find where in the article. | ||
| So this was the fake cell towers that were used to do uh the swattings. | ||
| Is that correct? | ||
| This is what they're reporting. | ||
| And let me jump to the portion. | ||
| It says recently these sim farms are believed to be responsible for dozens of hoax SWAT raids, including a senior U.S. Secret Service official, FBI director Cash Patel, members of Congress, including uh Marjorie Taylor Green, and media influencers such as Tim Poole and Steve Bannon. | ||
| Well then, what do I get? | ||
| Do I win a prize? | ||
| Is the federal government going to give me a cookie or something? | ||
| You are the tip of the spear. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| You get a Chinese fortune cookie. | ||
| Welcome to the future. | ||
| Yeah, I have to wonder too, with the uh a lot of the threats that we get. | ||
| Um as I mentioned recently, I've been in direct contact with the FBI, like actual over the threats we've been receiving because they've ramped up substantially. | ||
| And one question has always been are these actually foreign uh state actors. | ||
| And my argument in response to this story is two things. | ||
| Yes, I believe them when they say China is behind this. | ||
| However, we also have evidence that not all of the SWATs were from the same source. | ||
| And we do have evidence, and we've submitted this to the FBI in the previous administration, that it likely came from a leftist. | ||
| And I have evidence that I can't speak publicly about. | ||
| It would compromise any investigation. | ||
| Um but we have we have uh we have we have evidence. | ||
| Uh additionally when we get these death threats, and then you go online and see the people saying them in videos, we know it's Americans doing it. | ||
| So I do believe that there are foreign actors that are trying to fan the flames by sending us death threats and launching these hoax SWAT rates. | ||
| We also know for a fact some of it is coming from leftists. | ||
| How do we know uh that it's China? | ||
| I I know we're getting some of the reporting here, but I haven't seen any kind of because they have a source at DHS, numerous that have confirmed to them, and that's what their reporting is based on. | ||
| So if you trust the Blaze, then you can believe it, and if you don't, then you don't believe it. | ||
| I trust DHS. | ||
| China's a good boogie, man. | ||
| But I'm not saying that it wasn't China. | ||
| It it's crazy to say, but there are there are people in this administration that I have known for years, and I don't think they're lying to me. | ||
| You know, it is the kind of thing where if if an actual American did a SWAT and then you know, Chinese are watching this right now, Chinese, they're they're tapped to show, they love it. | ||
| Probably a bunch of them love it. | ||
| What's up, guys? | ||
| Uh I'll be in China soon. | ||
| That's my plan. | ||
| Um that they're like, ooh, let's copycat. | ||
| Let's make Tim or whoever think that's a good thing. | ||
| They're gonna harvest Ian's organs. | ||
| We're never gonna see him again. | ||
| I'm gonna meditate in the mountains, baby. | ||
| We're gonna make videos about it. | ||
| Beautiful Western mountains of the ancient shoe empire. | ||
| I'm there with you. | ||
| Um that it's easy to copycat. | ||
| So you get one crime in America, and then foreign actors are like, let's replicate that and make them think that it's coming from within, psych them out, you know, get them to turn on each other. | ||
| 100%. | ||
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| It's so important that we hold it together. | ||
| I think because of this, and uh things like this, it's so important that we as Americans keep cohesion. | ||
| The more that we are divided, whether it's politics, culture, whatever it is, you're allowing an open door for the enemy within and without to completely take their chance. | ||
| And that's been that's historically been the cycle. | ||
| And that's why it's so important that to your point. | ||
| We do remain united and we do uncover these things when they happen, but um it's important that we don't show that we're, you know, everything that's going on, the weakness, you know, sometimes that is caused by again the media, unfortunate circumstance like horrific circumstances that are done by horrific people. | ||
| Um, but uh at the end of the day, what we can control is to remain united as much as possible. | ||
| Yeah, well, I think people like Americans are Americans with the right, are really burnt out with foreign entanglements. | ||
| They hear the GOP, they're you know, these swamp creatures like banging on and on about the CCP. | ||
| And so they kind of roll their eyes and say, okay, this is a boogeyman. | ||
| But like legitimately is. | ||
| I mean, this is this story is a good example of like, no, they actually are our leading global adversary. | ||
| Uh yes, they are trying to undermine our country. | ||
| Yes, they are threatened by the Trump administration's efficiency and and and you know their a their ability to uh sort of show strength uh globally. | ||
| So it's like yeah, I I understand. | ||
| I you know, I see a lot of people typically they kind of just roll their eyes at the C C P dooming or they kind of you know hand wave it away. | ||
| But they are legitimately, and they're I mean, the story proves they're they're they have a lot of uh they're making a lot of plays in the United States. | ||
| Well, technically doesn't prove it, it it is evidence because the claims themselves aren't proved. | ||
| Sure, you know, but you know, if this if this reporting is true, it just adds to the list of of ways the C CP is you know, actively meddling in the United States. | ||
| Well, they're the story that I'm reading is talking about how they were uh bot farmers, how they could have capabilities to send out 30 million techs per minute under the type of equipment that they had. | ||
| Uh they had more than a hundred thousand sim cards that were also seized. | ||
| And uh I I think there's a lot more to this, and automatically I would love to see some evidence highlighting how uh China was involved here, because I think there's a possibility for uh a false flag potential too, especially with how just uh angry the intelligence agencies have been within the last few years, especially under the Biden administration against independent media, against content creators, uh, and they have acted against them like we saw with what happened to Steve Bannon, Roger Stone, and James O'Keefe. | ||
| So I I wouldn't be surprised if the swatting actually came from uh inside the house and that China's just being blamed right now for it, personally. | ||
| You said how many texts per minute? | ||
| 600 million texts per minute? | ||
| 30 million. | ||
| 30 million text per minute. | ||
| This is industrialized psychological warfare. | ||
| We we've we've come to that age now with first computation, electrical computation, now artificial intelligence. | ||
| Like the machine gun was industrialized warfare. | ||
| You churn men into the grinder. | ||
| That started in the early 19th century. | ||
| Now we're seeing this rapid psychological manipulation that's inconceivable. | ||
| 30 million techs per minute. | ||
| What human can keep up with that? | ||
| How do you even know what's real and what's not? | ||
| And that's the point. | ||
| That's the point of it a lot of times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's definitely not past the CCP to be bot farming. | ||
| I mean, there was, I think it was during during it's like right before, right during COVID, when Twitter removed like tens of thousands of profiles that were just spamming like pro CCP stuff all the time. | ||
| And it's like um, I mean, yeah, you saw it, you saw a lot of it during COVID was a lot of I guess disinformation, which is a bit cringe, but it's I guess all this to say it's really not past a CCP to be bot farming. | ||
| And and I think in this article it said that this is this specific, you know, battery farming has been going on since like 04. | ||
| I think every government should be bot farming. | ||
| I mean, it's a psychological war. | ||
| You have to have some control over the media narrative as a nation. | ||
| I hope we all I hope the America's got a great one too. | ||
| And like you saw Israel now is wants to buy TikTok. | ||
| I'm not sure if that purchase went through. | ||
| It comes from China, America's like stomp it down and then Israel's gonna buy it. | ||
| Well, it's not Israel, it's uh Larry Ellison. | ||
| Okay, head of Oracle, uh second richest man in the United States, worth 450 billion, roughly. | ||
| Um I know he's he's in the pocket, not in the pocket, but he's tight with Trump, Larry Ellison. | ||
| Is he tight with the Israelis? | ||
| Why did the why did Israel okay? | ||
| So he is tight with Israel. | ||
| I mean, the Israeli American Psy connection is very tight. | ||
| And you saw that with Ghilain Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, allegedly or provably working with Masad. | ||
| Like no one's like thinking we're not super tight with Israeli intelligence. | ||
| The five eyes. | ||
| I'm I don't know how involved Israel is with the five eyes, but um I don't know so I don't know why I brought it up. | ||
| That's more of a Can we talk about how the CCP was using uh using Venezuelan passports to that illegally enter our country and why wasn't like can that be more investigated? | ||
| Can we find out what type of bad actors were coming in to our country because of a border invasion? | ||
| I mean, there's so much stuff here that happened under the Biden administration, complete subversion, all these little nuances. | ||
| I hope every single thing is investigated. | ||
| Yes, that's very sophisticated. | ||
| What's happening here and to Tim and these influencers and and members and things like that is very sophisticated. | ||
| But what also was going on and what is already in our country. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, it's just nice that Trump doesn't even need a bot farm. | ||
| He just has like a bunch of sensitive young patriots just posting non-stop. | ||
| I mean, look at DHS, like that guy, he's not even getting paid right now. | ||
| The government's shut now, he's just letting it fly. | ||
| It's like we don't even need the bot farm. | ||
| We just got how sad is it that Netanyahu needs $7,000 to do that? | ||
| Real. | ||
| Donald Trump can be like post for me, and everyone's like, yeah, and then that yeah is like, we'll give you $7,000. | ||
| Perhaps wild. | ||
| I want you to call Gavin Newsom gay. | ||
| Everyone post it right now. | ||
| They'll do it. | ||
| And I'd be like, let's post a sombrero meme and everyone just goes sombrero nuts. | ||
| It's crazy how many people are for hire in this industry. | ||
| I think there should be a label. | ||
| There should be something on Twitter that says, hey, uh I've taken money to shill for this country. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And and why haven't those rules been followed with this particular case here? | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| People like to talk about Qatari money, but the you know Israeli money's there too, clearly. | ||
| So uh it it needs to be uh exposed so we could actually get to the bottom of who's financing and trying to, of course. | ||
| Uh what did the Democrats say the Russians were doing uh when when Trump was running for the presidency for the first time? | ||
| What were they doing? | ||
| Well, that Trump worked for Russia. | ||
| You know, no, but they they said Russia was meddling in our pol uh in our political system. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| Uh yeah. | ||
| Really it was obliged to be a good thing. | ||
| You mentioned uh Venezuela, Catalina earlier. | ||
| Did you guys see that the Trump administrators just blew up the fourth Venezuelan boat? | ||
| Allegedly, they called them terrorists. | ||
| I don't know if they were alleged terrorists, to my knowledge, but they just hit it. | ||
| Nope, no congressional I mean. | ||
| What do you need Congress for? | ||
| Maybe to declare war on somebody, maybe to do that. | ||
| It's an international open waters. | ||
| I mean, what do you think? | ||
| We haven't done that in a while. | ||
| What country are they bomb? | ||
| Well, they bomb a Venezuelan piece of technology right off the coast of Venezuela. | ||
| That's what they told us. | ||
| So for all you know, it could have been Chinese. | ||
| For all I know it didn't even happen. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| If your argument is allegedly it was Venezuela, then my argument to you is okay, so it was moon men made of cheese. | ||
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| And how would that be any better? | ||
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| Ian, just say it was a boat coming from Venezuela off the coast of Venezuela. | ||
| And they're not going to be able to do that. | ||
| Oh, maybe the moon men are trying to steal our cheese to rebuild the moon and make it bigger, and we don't want that. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| If you knew their intention, but uh they said they're cartailing drugs in, and uh they are definitely have hostility towards the Venezuelan government. | ||
| Somebody said we're gonna invade Venezuela. | ||
| Like, here's an awesome question. | ||
| You know, when uh when we got leaked information that they were killing civilians in a foreign country that we never declared war on and invaded anyway. | ||
| Uh that was that was that was terrifying. | ||
| Um But there's legitimate purpose of military use, which is not nation building in Afghanistan. | ||
| So when Trump says we're gonna secure our border, oh look, narco-terrorists are are are are driving in. | ||
| Here's the video of it. | ||
| I go. | ||
| Well, I don't necessarily just trust you, but there is a world of difference between collateral murder when the U.S. killed a Reuters journalist overseas and then tried covering it up, and Trump being like, I'm gonna show you what we're doing in international waters because these guys are drug runners. | ||
| The question then becomes, okay, all right, let I I would like to see evidence of this beyond just the video. | ||
| I'd like to see documentation, whatever proof they can afford. | ||
| But I'm actually willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. | ||
| It's very different. | ||
| The question I would have it the first question I ask is what are these boats doing otherwise? | ||
| Is it a group of fishermen enjoying a nice speed boat to the Caribbean and Trump just blew them up? | ||
| I really doubt it. | ||
| Why didn't they watch the boat come to the shore, watch it land, and then get the guys after they deboard it. | ||
| Yeah, detain them, then blow them up. | ||
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| Did you guys see the video uh recently where actually there are a lot of people law enforcement? | ||
| The one of the boats is firing back at them. | ||
| So what so we don't know what happened? | ||
| Ian, didn't you see the discord messages? | ||
| They loved each other and that the other boat pilot was not actually, in fact, uh trafficking drugs. | ||
| Yeah, these guys sound freaky. | ||
| Blow them out of the water. | ||
| Get them out of here. | ||
| One of them was uh one of them was a furry. | ||
| But honestly, I would love to have seen them let let them land and then take them and take the cargo and show people instead of just blowing up all the evidence. | ||
| Like make an example out of them. | ||
| Like these are the drugs coming in here. | ||
| I mean, the war on drugs is a farce anyway. | ||
| It's all just the cover for the kind of oil-rich uh nation that Venezuela is, a failed communistic state. | ||
| Uh but there's a reason Trump declared Maduro a drug trafficker and then recently declared war on drug traffickers and how Venezuela is becoming very closely aligned with Russia, China, and Iran. | ||
| And uh now we're flying uh military jets and fighter pilots and and naval assets. | ||
| I mean it's discussion of drone bombing Venezuela. | ||
| Not only that, there's require declaration of war. | ||
| There's practices of land invasion happening right now in Puerto Rico of American military service members. | ||
| So uh I I do believe we are headed towards the kind of whether kinetic or non-kinetic type of war between the United States and Venezuela. | ||
| It ain't just the United States of Venezuela, though. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| It's BRICS and it's all the other nations involved that for me. | ||
| What I'm seeing is it's gonna be uh Iran next, Venezuela, and then essentially Russia. | ||
| What about Iran? | ||
| That's how the that's what I said, Iran first. | ||
| What why what are they gonna do in Iran, do you think? | ||
| Uh the uh the They're gonna do a regime change and they're gonna probably start bombing sometime soon. | ||
| Uh American uh refueling aircraft is already being sent. | ||
| Gaza's being wrapped up as soon as Gaza wraps up. | ||
| There's conflicting information right now about Trump pushing the Israelis towards a peace deal that Israelis kind of pushing back right now. | ||
| But I think uh I the the vice president and the president just uh retweeted Hamas, uh which is uh very interesting, and Trump ordered BB to stop bombing Gaza. | ||
| So far, the reports are coming in that BB has not listened to him. | ||
| Just like during the time when uh BB was bombing Iran, Trump told him to stop. | ||
| He didn't, he sent more bombs. | ||
| Uh again, kind of humiliating, attacking Donald Trump once again on the international world stage. | ||
| Okay, but hold on. | ||
| Trump retweeted the Hamas statement. | ||
| The statement of where they agreed to his show of strength of what he proposed. | ||
| So how is that just be he's that's how is what is the fine line to you then of sharing a fact to sensationalizing it? | ||
| And then I also want to. | ||
| No, no, no, I'm I'm sharing a fact. | ||
| It happened. | ||
| Okay, I'm not I'm not I'm not placing judgment on it, right? | ||
| I'm just telling people, hey, it happened. | ||
| For all this conversation about Iran and the doomsday that we're going to war and all stuff, what what is then your spectrum of going to war and then showing strength in an administration? | ||
| Do you want do you want us to be like Biden that just sat there and everybody just was completely not afraid of us? | ||
| He gave the CIA uh carte blanche to do whatever they wanted to do in Ukraine, and uh he uh did a lot of kind of aggressive military actions as well. | ||
| So uh I wouldn't say he was so what is your spectrum of we're gonna go to war to okay let's actually show people that we're not meant to be F around with and so what is your spectrum of the case? | ||
| So why why should we go to war? | ||
| What why should we go to work to show strength? | ||
| I'm asking I don't get it. | ||
| I'm asking, I'm asking what your spectrum of a decision by the commander in chief. | ||
| What is what to you what level to you is complete war or sh doing what it takes to make sure that our adversaries know not to mess with the United States? | ||
| Uh that's a very kind of fine line, and I could answer that in many different ways, but obviously you could use the carrot and the stick. | ||
| I think we've been using a lot of stick. | ||
| I think we need to use carrots. | ||
| I think we need to promote diplomacy, and I think a lot of the problems could be solved through just economic free trade capitalism and deals that could be made right now that could promote more prosperity rather than this kind of war footing that we're on that I think is incorrect. | ||
| Nobody wants war, okay? | ||
| However, do we think in the history of history that like did you support the bombing of Iran? | ||
| We are just going to like get away with this stuff through like peace and love. | ||
| I'm not saying that. | ||
| I just said the stick, I just said the stick and the carrot, and I said it should be a two-pronged approach where we're strong, but at the same time, war should be a last resort. | ||
| Diplomacy should always be used. | ||
| Uh Trump this this time around has been bombing a lot of countries. | ||
| He bombed Yemen, he bombed Iran. | ||
| Did you support the bombing? | ||
| But but I want to ask you a question. | ||
| Did you support uh the bombing of Iran? | ||
| I supported President Trump's decision, and and guess what? | ||
| Everybody was wrong that all the doomsday people said it was gonna lead to war. | ||
| We're in World War III. | ||
| It's like we didn't even give the administration a chance to do they have more intelligence. | ||
| They have more intelligence than any of us again. | ||
| It's disingenuous when it's a very important thing. | ||
| So when somebody trusts, I trust the president of the United States and making decisions, especially when it comes to foreign policy and what he needs to do to get things done. | ||
| Why is all of a sudden it has to be sensationalized that we're going to World War III? | ||
| It's like, why even I never even said that? | ||
| But yes, you did. | ||
| You said literally maybe. | ||
| We're going to war with Venezuela. | ||
| Yeah, that that that there probably will be a conflict with Venezuela, probably, uh, with the way that things are shaping up. | ||
| I mean, you don't bring in the military, uh, you don't prep for the invasion. | ||
| You don't send in the the military if that's not an option. | ||
| Obviously, all those options are on the table. | ||
| Obviously, we hope and pray Donald Trump uh makes the decision that's going to bring peace, not war. | ||
| You're also assuming that these pe that's that people that terrorists in particular are are gonna come to the negotiating table when it comes to economic sanctions and things like that. | ||
| Sometimes they don't intelligence just bomb them, just bomb everyone and start wars. | ||
| What is your solution? | ||
| I think given No, no, by the way. | ||
| Dean specific bioweapons. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's that sounds great. | ||
| Or you know, nuclear war is. | ||
| What are you calling for exactly? | ||
| Like what's your position? | ||
| What's your What's your position exactly? | ||
| Because I'm saying we need more diplomacy. | ||
| Are you saying we need more war? | ||
| You're saying okay, but you're saying that that a situation where we show strength automatically leads to war. | ||
| That's exactly what we're doing. | ||
| No, I'm not saying that. | ||
| You just you just said that. | ||
| I'm saying we have been at war for if I say that I agreed with the commander in chief's decision that ultimately. | ||
| I think you're gonna say that regardless, no matter what the issue is, uh because you're running as a politician and and I'm not I'm running as a a servant to my district that overwhelmingly overwhelmingly supported President Trump and supports his decision as commander in chief. | ||
| I'm uh if if we have intelligence that a foreign adversary is directly impacting the United States and Americans and our interests, why why shouldn't the commander in chief then make a give us an example a logical decision to then do what he has to do? | ||
| Which is what happened in Iran. | ||
| And that did not lead to World War III, by the way, which everybody then screamed at at that choice. | ||
| But then it's gotta be careful. | ||
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But it made an impact and it made it because if you're arguing line. | |
| You're the the the uh just just to be pedantic. | ||
| Some argued that it it would ignite World War III at the moment. | ||
| The actions Trump took with Iran could still be a contributing factor to the escalation of tensions between BRICS and NATO. | ||
| It also conflict. | ||
| Iran definitely couldn't. | ||
| Iran literally goes to China afterwards. | ||
| That were designed 20 years ago specifically for bunker bustering Iran, and that would not inflame tensions. | ||
| Of course it will inflame tensions. | ||
| It inflamed tensions and it stopped the negotiations happening in Russia right now. | ||
| The deals that were supposed to be made, Putin was watching the negotiations and said, do not bomb Iran. | ||
| He saw the bad faith actors in those negotiations, and and it affected the negotiations with Ukraine. | ||
| So you can't say it had no effect, everything's fine when there we're still very close towards another war with Iran. | ||
| China is now becoming closely aligned with Iran and now Venezuela, and we are becoming and going on this kind of trajectory that we should be using diplomacy that that would be a lot to do. | ||
| BRICS already exists. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| We don't have a conversation about China and Iran becoming close. | ||
| They they're close. | ||
| But also, but they're coming even closer and becoming more on a war footing. | ||
| And now more war equipment is being is being shared, and now we're all we're we're being brought closer to this type of bigger conflict, which I think we should be doing everything to avoid. | ||
| Do you think in any case showing a show of strength is necessary? | ||
| What do you define that as? | ||
| Any show of strength? | ||
| Because negotiating in bad faith. | ||
| I don't think they're gonna be flexing other worlds. | ||
| Obviously, like taking out Solomon, for example. | ||
| Do you believe that there is do you believe in the world? | ||
| I asked you a bunch of questions that you still never answer them. | ||
| I answered a lot of your questions. | ||
| No, you haven't. | ||
| You answered that. | ||
| So you supported you supported the bombing of Iran and you thought that brings peace. | ||
| Yes? | ||
| I said I suppose. | ||
| Are we in peace right now? | ||
| Yes, President Trump's decision. | ||
| I don't know about it. | ||
| We are not currently at war with Iran. | ||
| It was a 12-day war. | ||
| We we the United States crushed them, and then they said, okay, we're done. | ||
| Okay, so what's what's the solution? | ||
| What do you what are you trying to get at? | ||
| Solution of what? | ||
| Uh the the questions that she's got to be. | ||
| We bomb a country in between, just as a consolation. | ||
| I think that'd be true. | ||
| We just sacrifice some children at the altar of the military industrial complex, and then as soon as we sacrifice Timolik and the demons out there. | ||
| Then it's fine. | ||
| Just a little bit. | ||
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Just a little bit of intervention, just a bunch of war. | |
| Completely manipulating what I said. | ||
| I said, war, peace through strength. | ||
| That and I don't believe that all these these situ the decisions from the commander-in-chief, given the intelligence that he receives that is again above all of our pay grades here, ultimately he makes a decision that doesn't lead to war. | ||
| That doesn't fuel the military industrial complex. | ||
| Believe me, I'm the wife of a veteran who who served in the global war on terror. | ||
| I'm completely against the military industrial complex. | ||
| However, I'm not against peace through strength, which is a cornerstone of American foreign policy. | ||
| Peace is done through diplomacy. | ||
| Peace is done through negotiations. | ||
| Can you stop interrupting me? | ||
| Can I I let you finish and I listen to you? | ||
| Can you please let me finish, right? | ||
| Uh if you look at all the peace that we have ever had, it is because people came to the negotiation table and made a deal. | ||
| Wrong and because they won wars. | ||
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| It's gunboat diplomacy. | ||
| Not always stop. | ||
| But a lot of the times, a lot of wars were prevented because of negotiation. | ||
| Since the end of World War II, the peace came out from our rich. | ||
| So if you believe in negotiation, then why are you upset that President Trump re-tw that reinstated the how you said you're making that up out of your own head? | ||
| I never said it. | ||
| I was upset that he did. | ||
| I said that he just did. | ||
| I think Luke hates America. | ||
| I think Luke just hates America. | ||
| Luke, you gotta flex a little more, baby. | ||
| No, see gunboat diplomacy was this decision by late 1800s, sometime where they're like, we're gonna roll up our ships on the coast to the park them right in front of the city and be like, now you're gonna do some diplomacy with us. | ||
| There's a reason why so many people voted for Donald Trump when he, even when he was talking to you directly, Tim, he was like, Yeah, why are we involved in Yemen? | ||
| Why are we doing this? | ||
| We should be taking care of our own problems at home. | ||
| So if you're arguing, yes, we have to be the world police, yes, we have to bomb countries for peace. | ||
| That is a ridiculous idiot notion that doesn't make any sense, doesn't add up when we have clear priorities here at home that need to be prioritized because guess what? | ||
| Abdullah with flip-flops in Iran is not my enemy. | ||
| Okay, but you're clearly putting you're putting words in my mouth that I'm for being with the wheel. | ||
| No, no, no, you're like we need peace through strength. | ||
| We need to do this, and we need problems. | ||
| We need to spend all this on the we're spending records. | ||
| We are in debt up to our ears because of the military-industrial complex. | ||
| How much money are we just wasting away, throwing away Deutsche and Elon Musk could have never gone to the Pentagon and audited them? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why can't we have an audit from all the contracts, from all the nonsense, from all the malfeasants, from all of these people robbing us blinds unless it doesn't look like someone has to sacrifice children at the altar of mom? | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| Can I make one point here? | ||
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That's exactly what's happening here. | |
| The military the military industrial complex is has star literally started like in 1913. | ||
| And they're robbing us blind. | ||
| Okay, but you're sitting here trying to blame this administration for decades of poor policies. | ||
| All I'm saying is keep your campaign promised and let's take care of our problems at home. | ||
| We have clear issues. | ||
| Let's take care of it. | ||
| Okay, but let's hyper focus on that and not uh send uh a quarter of our THAD missile defense systems over to Israel right now. | ||
| We don't need to be doing it. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| Right. | ||
| You know. | ||
| Maybe we do. | ||
| You certainly need a broad focus as the commander. | ||
| You can't get $7,000 now. | ||
| But this is this is a good thing. | ||
| No, no, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna I'm gonna leverage, I'm gonna go to Qatar and be a lie, hey man, Israel give me seven for pro-Israel. | ||
| What are you gonna give me for a eight and a half? | ||
| Eight and a half Qatar. | ||
| Come on, let's see what you got in the middle. | ||
| Donald Trump Donald Trump galvanized so many people by saying George W. Bush knew about 9-11. | ||
| He galvanized so many people when he said we should have never gone into Iraq. | ||
| He galvanized so many people when he said, Yeah, we just went in there to take the oil. | ||
| He did that dance on SNL where he's you know, how is anything that he's gonna do? | ||
| No more children, to Mullock, right? | ||
| And I was like, yes. | ||
| Okay, that's what we want. | ||
| Maybe some. | ||
| Luke, we know you have we know you have Trump derangements in the world. | ||
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| Let's go. | ||
| That provision is argument one. | ||
| Um you can't have an argument. | ||
| You can't have a clear advocate. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| There's like no reason. | ||
| No, you know why. | ||
| Like, come on, that is such a cop out. | ||
| You know why I can't have a clear argument. | ||
| Do you support Trump when he was campaigning, or do you support Trump now? | ||
| Do you which which Trump do you support? | ||
| You'll waver in the win like a little flight. | ||
| I have supported him since 2015. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| No, but let me tell, yes, I have supported President Trump since 2015. | ||
| But I will tell you, people like you make it hard because you want to have a substantive conversation, but yet you sit there and say, You're completely twisting my words. | ||
| You're saying I'm the world's pol. | ||
| I want to win a lot of people. | ||
| I get it. | ||
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It's fine. | |
| When I literally told me, Billy and Bobby, give them to the Epstein uh criminals and predators out there. | ||
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It's fine. | |
| Just let each other five. | ||
| I gotta be honest. | ||
| I think Catalina's gonna get a mass amount of donations after she claimed you had Trump derangement syndrome because the chance is blown up like Catalina for Congress.com. | ||
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Luke has Trump derangement syndrome. | |
| Can we make a can we make a yard sign? | ||
| No, it's gonna be a t-shirt. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Crop top, actually. | ||
| When I definitely want to let you point that out when when Trump was running in those early days and saying we never should have been there, we never he was ignorant to a lot of geopolitical strategy of taking the the Suez Canal, holding it, using Israeli nuclear force, you know, eradicating radical Islam and whatever that means, whether or not you agree with that. | ||
| But when you get into office, now you're like, oh, I have to decide who lives and who dies. | ||
| We need money. | ||
| I truly believe he has avoided war, and I truly believe, again, as a wife of a veteran of global war on terror. | ||
| It's hard to see an entire generation that was completely a misled. | ||
| A lot of these guys look back and they say, All for what? | ||
| It's devastating the impact of what that war did on the entire generation of men. | ||
| They should have been there. | ||
| We go back in time. | ||
| You would have been everybody work jump, but it would have been a good idea. | ||
| No, no, no, I actually know I wouldn't have to be able to do that. | ||
| That's Saddam Hussein guy has connections to Nine. | ||
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I'm gonna stop you because I tell you. | |
| I'm completely anti-war and it's rude that Luke completely say that. | ||
| Changing the subject. | ||
| Um we're gonna rag on some liberals. | ||
| Before we're gonna we're gonna grab one last segment before the weekend, we gotta do it because this one is uh how do I say this? | ||
| I am emotionally triggered and personally offended and biased. | ||
| I got this tweet. | ||
| I tweeted this. | ||
| 90% of liberals we try to book demand money. | ||
| Zero percent of conservatives ask for money. | ||
| In fact, conservatives sometimes drive themselves, even though we cover travel and accommodation. | ||
| Liberals are grifters, they don't care about ideas, they care about money, and they will say anything for money. | ||
| And I believe it. | ||
| So we have an update for you guys for the Culture War Live event, which is coming up in a couple of weeks. | ||
| We had booked Naema Trout, who uh is notable because she debated Charlie Kirk on Jubilee. | ||
| She had agreed to come on the show in exchange for 500. | ||
| This is the Culture War Live ticketed stage event. | ||
| We have never offered money for Timcast IRL. | ||
| We have been offered money, we have turned it down every time. | ||
| We do not offer money to appear on any of the shows that I do. | ||
| Naima was invited to come on the debate show about dating, and she said, how much? | ||
| So uh apparently she had negotiated, her team had negotiated with Alex, not someone from our team, and she was offered $500, and we never pay. | ||
| The events lose money. | ||
| We do this because we're trying to it's for the cause for an impact. | ||
| They came back to me uh to our team yesterday saying she had received an offer for 5,000 and would be backing out of the event unless we could match or offer more. | ||
| To which we responded, no, we can't do that. | ||
| Now, I'll grant some respect. | ||
| If I was asked to go to an event and I said, sure, I'll do it, whatever. | ||
| And then like a week later, someone said, Tim, we're gonna pay you to do another event. | ||
| I'd hit him up and be like, guys, look, I gotta take the money. | ||
| Sorry, like it's a paid gig versus So I'm not completely bent about that. | ||
| But it is a reality that conservatives never ask for money. | ||
| I think to be fair, 0%, it might be 0.01%, because we may have had one personality who's not a conservative, but is a prominent, it's like a celebrity who kind of agrees with Trump. | ||
| So anyway, here's what ends up happening. | ||
| I tweet this. | ||
| It's got 4,000 retweets, 811,000 views, because it's true, and even Bill Marr said the same thing. | ||
| And everyone's favorite, Olivia Juliana. | ||
| She is a uh liberal uh personality, tweeted 10,000 likes, and I'll post screenshots of Tim's team offering me money to collab with him. | ||
| I love the word collab because that literally never happened. | ||
| I don't collab, but I guess semantics. | ||
| People who are invited to come on the culture war debate show. | ||
| Um, which I will also add, I wouldn't be there as we already announced I wouldn't be for security reasons, and we don't know yet if I will be there. | ||
| She said 10,000 likes, and I'll post screenshots of Tim's team offering me money. | ||
| And this just so beautifully exemplifies the point. | ||
| She wouldn't just do it. | ||
| She wouldn't just say, Oh yeah, look, Tim offered me money. | ||
| No, she says, you give me clicks and help me build up my personality and my career and my job, and maybe I'll consider being honest. | ||
| Of which she wasn't, because Lisa, uh, who does our booking Patriot posted the screenshots on X showing everything? | ||
| And never was she offered money. | ||
| Hi, Olivia. | ||
| Tim Pool is a new show, the Culture War War II guests with opposing views. | ||
| Uh hi, Olivia. | ||
| The temple is a is is is hosting an event July 26th in Washington, DC. | ||
| No offer of money. | ||
| She said, hi, I have a prior prior familial obligations and will be unable to attend. | ||
| Thank you for the invitation. | ||
| Then an email. | ||
| We would like to invite you to the culture war, the comedy loft. | ||
| No offer of money. | ||
| And excuse me, the other half of the email. | ||
| Here's the date. | ||
| Here's who's going to be there. | ||
| Kat Timff, Kyler Turner, Myron Gaines will be there. | ||
| And then she even went further to include a text message with another staffer who said, we never offered her any money. | ||
| So maybe she's just a lunatic who is, I don't know, talking to some random cactus and thinking it was me offering money. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But we never did. | ||
| These people lie. | ||
| It's what they do. | ||
| I am genuinely convinced that about 90% of liberals are literally just saying whatever they have to say to make money. | ||
| People like Jimmy Kimmel are no exception. | ||
| Sam Cedar, well, to be fair, Sam did the show for free. | ||
| So I'll give him some respect. | ||
| Hassan Grifter. | ||
| Krasenstein's, they never asked for money. | ||
| They came on the show, respect, despite not respect in other areas. | ||
| Speaking of speaking of liberals making money, Luke, how much are you getting paid to be here? | ||
| Zero, actually. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| I'm volunteering my time. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| You have your your thesis is wrong here. | ||
| Well, Luke's looks like an anarchist. | ||
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No, he's not a good idea. | |
| He's not a liberal. | ||
| He's definitely not a liberal. | ||
| He's giving me liberal vibes. | ||
| He's a panic. | ||
| Well, I mean, there's other people who don't like try to panic. | ||
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It's a panicking. | |
| Get him out of here. | ||
| Say donate to me. | ||
| Luke's a panicin and then watch this. | ||
| Someone said just a little bit of a channel. | ||
| But uh, no, it looks like I believe in freedom and and and uh you know personal responsibility, something that politicians usually don't know. | ||
| What something that politicians usually don't know much about. | ||
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What do we not know about freedom and personal responsibility? | |
| Have you guys ever fallen into that place where you just decide I'm gonna start lying now, and then you kind of just justify it for yourself and you become that person? | ||
| No, you'd be a liberal if that was the case because there's easy money. | ||
| Yeah, I've waved through that state of mind, and that's what's happening to these people. | ||
| Luke, come on. | ||
| Yeah, how much money do you think we could make if we go all in on Israel, bro? | ||
| It's so stop ragging on Israel. | ||
| You like it? | ||
| But I gotta stop talking about the Epstein list too. | ||
| Five look uh what if you did 10 tweets per day? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| 70,000 dollars. | ||
| Nah, they don't got a budget for that. | ||
| But they might be, you know, seven grand per day, bro. | ||
| Come on, that's a lot of money. | ||
| When the IRS took everything from me last year, I I would have thought about it, but probably would have said no. | ||
| It's possible that this girl was wrong. | ||
| Don Lemon asked for 50,000. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Dude, I mean I find that actually really insulting. | ||
| Who does he think he is? | ||
| I think it's it's actually, you know, no matter how much uh someone likes to argue here, it's it I'm really grateful that you have people on and people like myself, you know, we're really honored to be able to have a platform and to to for you to invite us on and and to have these dialogues and this conversation because you're we're reaching an audience that you know we might not normally and so I'm so thank you. | ||
| But and I'm really insulted that people ask you for money to be on here. | ||
| There are uh some prominent podcasts that pay people to come on the show, and we don't do that. | ||
| We won't give people money to come on Tim Cast Ira. | ||
| We've talked about it, like if there is a celebrity who's not a political figure, and we want them to comment on something, but we're like that's what culture war is for. | ||
| Because if they're not a news, if not a person who's in politics and news and doesn't know what's going on, we get specialists sometimes on the show who will be like, you know, we had like um white coat way uh white coat waste project, and they're not news guys, they're specialists, so they don't have a lot to say on like politics of Yemen, you know what I mean? | ||
| So we try to reserve that stuff for culture war. | ||
| The only culture war events we've actually offered money for is literally this one time for uh Naima. | ||
| Because it is a stage event, we've talked about it, and I said, Well, it's not the same thing as asking someone to come and sit down and have a conversation. | ||
| We're asking them to be in public with an audience, selling tickets. | ||
| So I think it's fair that the people who do request some kind of compensation, we we would offer something. | ||
| But uh Kat Tim didn't ask for money, Myron didn't ask for money, Michael Malice didn't ask for money. | ||
| Literally no one's asked for money. | ||
| In fact, even Alex Stein. | ||
| Alex did it for free, right? | ||
| Even Alex co-hosted for free. | ||
| We lost money doing those events. | ||
| I think we lost a little bit. | ||
| Like we made it, we made back a good amount, and we do it for the love. | ||
| Yeah, I'm here. | ||
| I'm I flew myself out here. | ||
| I'm here for free. | ||
| Uh unlike uh what Ken Elena believes. | ||
| Uh but uh I I I think it's it's important to have these discussions that I'm here because I love these discussions, and I think it's important to discuss. | ||
| I think it's important because it's important to ask questions. | ||
| That this is true for all of us. | ||
| And this is the point I'm making with this tweet. | ||
| When you look at you know, David Pacman. | ||
| Oh, his opinions for sale, bro. | ||
| Like Hassan Piker, his opinion's for sale. | ||
| Hassan Piker is simultaneously pro and anti-military industrial complexes, but it just makes no sense. | ||
| He's like, we should be cutting off Israel because the military industrial complex in the Middle East, but we should be giving it to Ukraine. | ||
| And I'm like, no. | ||
| It's like, what the hell? | ||
| Well, but then that's not principled. | ||
| That's just on grifter. | ||
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Grifter. | |
| I'll give Sam Cedar credit in that he came on for free. | ||
| But Sam Cedar is a different kind of grifter. | ||
| He makes videos about me like nonstop. | ||
| And this is really funny. | ||
| I'm looking straight into the camera at you, Sam. | ||
| When I was sick for August, I was mercilessly sick. | ||
| He didn't make one video about me because I didn't make any videos. | ||
| His viewership dropped uh what did it drop by? | ||
| Like 20%, and his subscriber growth dropped by like 70%. | ||
| When he when the man can't talk about me, he loses views. | ||
| I I'm so sorry about that. | ||
| I know your kids need to eat. | ||
| Different kind of grifter. | ||
| But the rest of these liberals are literally like, I've got so many followers, I can make money with it. | ||
| You know, shout out to Stephen Bonnell, who, whether you like Destiny or not, he would pay for his own travel all the time. | ||
| And he's been doing that for years and years. | ||
| Yeah, but that guy's trying to get killed. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Like Stephen Steve's intentionally situation to bring him up. | ||
| Hey, at least you can't. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Listen, Ian. | ||
| I don't like judging people in critical. | ||
| I think one of the one of the one of the biggest critiques people have of you is that you seem to be willfully obtuse. | ||
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Of course. | |
| That's my position on the show at the moment. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Destiny has celebrated death, called for killing of conservatives, said conservatives should fear death. | ||
| And Hitler loved drugs. | ||
| And then goes out in public for a public tour right after Charlie is killed. | ||
| Hey, all that stuff I condemn. | ||
| A lot of that, what you just said. | ||
| My point is you don't go on your show, mock people and praise uh mock people who who just uh uh who whose friend just was murdered, praise the assassinations after you suffered criminal charges. | ||
| I think I don't know the full full details, where your kid is going online and insulting you and your wife left you, and then you say, Hey guys, I'm gonna go stand in public. | ||
| Here's where I'll be standing. | ||
| It's like we get it, dude. | ||
| We get it. | ||
| You're trying to he you're trying to get someone to hurt you. | ||
| Please, no one hurt this man. | ||
| Okay, he he's in need of a 5150. | ||
| Yeah, he's not doing too well. | ||
| I reached out to him a couple years ago. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| So when it comes to the financial incentive, when you come on here, especially like as a candidate, this is just from my perspective, right? | ||
| Or anybody, you're subjecting yourself to a if somebody disagrees with you, horrible, you know, comments. | ||
| I don't even want to see the comment section here. | ||
| There, you're subjecting yourself to vulnerability in terms of anybody can take a clip and or misconstrue what you're trying to say, manipulate what you're trying to say when that's not actually what you're trying to say. | ||
| There's a huge liability in doing that, yet people still come on here to have these discussions because that's worth the ultimate backlash. | ||
| Do you think in their mind they think that it's only worth to come on? | ||
| I'm not saying it's not right, but with when there's a financial incentive because you're putting yourself in that I guarantee you there is a number I can give most liberals where they will change their opinions in two seconds. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Conservatives, absolutely not. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You will they can just be bought. | ||
| I would so and I say this of 90% of conservatives, because that thing's absolute, because some so the way the way I put it is 90% of liberals are grifters, 90% of conservatives are honest to their to their mission. | ||
| That means you can find some conservatives. | ||
| But I guarantee you, if I went to anybody in the turning point building and said, I would give you 100,000 right now, cash, here you go, suitcase. | ||
| All you need to do is I'm gonna film a video of you renouncing Christ. | ||
| They would say, never. | ||
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Right. | |
| Never. | ||
| But I know that I can go to liberals, a good majority, may the to be fair, some of them may weigh a hundred thousand against their you know multi-million dollar enterprise and say no. | ||
| But the average one of the mill liberal who's like wanting to come on the show, I bet if I said give you a hundred grand to be conservative, they'd go. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah, because you've got like two years of money for the guy making 50k, and he's like, all I gotta say is some lie, and then I can spend the next couple years making up for it. | ||
| Because they don't actually believe in what they say. | ||
| There's no principle in there, what they believe. | ||
| So I fell to Hollywood working in the entertainment industry. | ||
| Yeah, the whole industry's built around that. | ||
| Say, sell this product, say it's good for you, even though you know it's not. | ||
| We're gonna grab some super chats because we went long because that's what we do sometimes. | ||
| And it's Friday, and we're having fun and we're screaming at each other. | ||
| But uh, let's grab some of your super chats and let's see. | ||
| What are we gonna do? | ||
| I'm about to ask for a text. | ||
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Ambriel Brown says we can't release. | |
| I'm reading super chats now. | ||
| Ambriel Brown says we can't Sorry guys. | ||
| Huh? | ||
| This is my favorite part of the show, by the way. | ||
| Considering people spent a lot of money, I will throw you guys off the show if you keep doing that. | ||
| Vigilante's on the rise. | ||
| Forget civil war. | ||
| This is life for life and war beyond us. | ||
| Yes, I want to know who's on the list, but the justice isn't ours. | ||
| True justice will come. | ||
| When? | ||
| How? | ||
| Solid. | ||
| Um I I I disagree with that notion. | ||
| Justice could come now. | ||
| We don't have to wait for it and have some underwater 4D chess backgamming explanation. | ||
| We could get real answers. | ||
| We should. | ||
| We deserve it. | ||
| My jury's out with me, man. | ||
| I I think about lately how how you create order by using evil once in a while, and then you repent along the way. | ||
| But and and this power of blackmail, this level of power that you could exert over big money, and you know big money's the problem, the Swiss banks, bank for international settlements. | ||
| I mean, if you've got if you've got dirt on those guys and you can somehow circumvent the uh the World Economic Forum's attempt at turning this into a corporatocracy, you know the uh basically every super chat is anti-luke. | ||
| Read them. | ||
| I'm okay with that. | ||
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They're just criticism that I like uh Luke is wrong, Luke is wrong with his own. | |
| I love constructive criticism, and I love to have these debates, so let's do it. | ||
| Not a bot says Luke would burn down the country to get the Epstein list. | ||
| Uh Fallen Angel says, Luke, justice takes time for it to work, so it won't crumble under examination, especially with the corrupt judges in the court system. | ||
| That's actually true too. | ||
| It's the judges that are blocking their judges blocking the release of these files. | ||
| They have the files. | ||
| They could release them. | ||
| They don't need a judge's uh approval for them. | ||
| A judge blocked the release of the files. | ||
| Uh the the court files, but not the FBI files, not the financial transcripts, not the records, not the victims, not the flight logs. | ||
| Daniel Cole says Luke's view respectfully is naively myopic. | ||
| He clearly cannot see the bigger issue for the Epstein trees. | ||
| Dem tyranny is 1,000 foot oak. | ||
| I don't think we're gonna get dem tyranny by releasing the Epstein list. | ||
| What if they could Felipe Brevard says Luke only thinks about his business model? | ||
| He needs material to feed his audience, he doesn't have anything to lose. | ||
| We parents do grow up. | ||
| What are we gonna lose by releasing the Epstein? | ||
| What if it's the ability to say if Democrats win, their kids' future is at risk? | ||
| If they could use that's correlated. | ||
| If they could use the Epsi files to repeal the Federal Reserve Act, great. | ||
| Would you be cool with them using it as blackmail to get those people to repeal that act? | ||
| Uh no, I think Epstein takes priority. | ||
| Oscar Oliu says, I haven't super chat in a while, but please tell Luke, normal people don't give an ish about rich people doing gross ish. | ||
| We are worried about bills and dying from crime. | ||
| Then let's have an America first policy where uh a lot of the predators out there are hurting our children. | ||
| Like I think it I think it's a fair argument to make. | ||
| Luke's just like SL V R B A I'm not gonna read the whole thing. | ||
| People only care about uncovering Epstein docs so they can see elites who have or may done some pedo stuff. | ||
| Only a small percent actually care to get justice for the minors who were involved. | ||
| Look at what happened with Diddy today. | ||
| What happened? | ||
| What are we at 15 months or something? | ||
| Four years. | ||
| Was that good or enough or not enough? | ||
| I don't think it was enough for what he was. | ||
| It was a cover-up operation for other Democrats who are involved. | ||
| They they hit it. | ||
| Neglectful sausage says, what about ism, repeal the 19th? | ||
| No, that means Don. | ||
| How do you respond to that, Catalina? | ||
| Women belong in the kitchen and in Congress, okay. | ||
| What do you think about Anna Paulina Luna's bill to allow uh mothers to work remote vote remote from Congress if they have babies uh Anna's a great friend of mine. | ||
| Um, you know, that's that's an interesting one, and I'll tell you why. | ||
| You know, the argument to that was against it, rather was well, we women ha you know, women have to work and and things like that. | ||
| Well, she like for a as a mother, she had to literally go to DC every week when she had a a newborn. | ||
| What if you have a child that has an issue with quit. | ||
| You're gonna you're gonna lose a lion like like Anna over something. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| If you if you want to open the door to Congress remote voting under the Civil Rights Act, then the Democrats are gonna say, then you have to allow everyone to vote remote no matter what, and then Congress disappears. | ||
| There should be a balance, and there was a balance in that particular provision. | ||
| She had a she had a limited of time. | ||
| It was a good one. | ||
| Imagine any other job. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like as a firefighter, and it's like a woman and she's like, I'm gonna have a baby, now you gotta pay me. | ||
| I'm not gonna come to work. | ||
| I'm gonna work firefight remote. | ||
| It's like, look, you have a job, you're expected to be there. | ||
| Don't bring your kid to work. | ||
| That's like the crazy thing. | ||
| The other Democrat lady was like, look at my son, he has to be here in Congress with me. | ||
| No, he doesn't get a babysitter. | ||
| Okay, well, that was different. | ||
| That was also, I think it was also. | ||
| I think it was also heavily sensationalized on Twitter too. | ||
| Like I think I think it's an important thing. | ||
| That was something that she cared about. | ||
| And you know, I think it was overly sensationalized on Twitter. | ||
| Like if you want to have a baby, quit. | ||
| Men don't breastfeed. | ||
| Like this is this is the you know the problem I have with it is largely it's this gender neutral garbage where it's like I just had a kid. | ||
| I know I I I am going, I'm learning, and there are many, many more of many more kids than I did, and and know a lot more than I do. | ||
| But oh wow, do babies need moms? | ||
| And I changed my opinion on surrogacy, which was rather fence-sittery, and now I'm absolutely opposed to it. | ||
| And uh, because newborn babies need mothers. | ||
| They they they we babies formula is fake, formula is a lie, formula is a trick. | ||
| Babies are surviving, but they are not thriving. | ||
| So this idea that we're gonna be like nah, women can be in Congress and have babies at the same time. | ||
| I'm like, I'm I'm not doing this. | ||
| Women can be in Congress all they want. | ||
| But if you have a baby, it doesn't matter what job you have, you go take care of your baby. | ||
| But what if you can do both? | ||
| No, you can't. | ||
| Yeah, look at Carol. | ||
| Look at Caroline Levitt. | ||
| She's a complete powerhouse. | ||
| Does she does she bring her baby to the stand of press secretaries? | ||
| She started working three years. | ||
| She holds she's holding her baby at the press. | ||
| Wait, well, that's different. | ||
| That democratic representative did that, but she's not doing that. | ||
| However, she is a mom. | ||
| She hasn't asked to work remote. | ||
| She had a baby. | ||
| And did she did she go home and say I'm gonna zoom call the press? | ||
| She worked like three after. | ||
| So we got no issue. | ||
| Yeah, but it's more, it's the voting pro it's more nuanced. | ||
| Anna Paulina Luna said, I should be able to work from home because I had a baby. | ||
| No, she didn't. | ||
| I mean, that is ridiculous. | ||
| That was the bill. | ||
| Are you joking? | ||
| What was the bill to do? | ||
| First of all, most of the things. | ||
| What was the bill? | ||
| Over a provision, it said allow it over a certain amount. | ||
| It was like 10 weeks or something like that. | ||
| To work remote. | ||
| It said giving the option. | ||
| To vote remote in Congress. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Which means from home with your baby. | ||
| That doesn't necessarily mean that. | ||
| Oh, it means from the cafe with her baby? | ||
| Yeah, she well doesn't. | ||
| The idea of the thing is that anyone would dare say I should get a special class provision to vote remotely, is so shockingly offensive to me. | ||
| I called on her to resign. | ||
| And I like her. | ||
| I think she's a great member of Congress, one of the best. | ||
| But if you're gonna stand up there and be like, I should get to work remote, the the title wave of corruption that opens for her personal issue is so shockingly offensive to me. | ||
| My response is how dare you go into Congress and say, I had a baby, so I'm gonna vote on bills remotely when we already have a problem of Congress not showing up and spending most of their time fundraising instead of doing their jobs. | ||
| It's more that's why Congress approval writing is like 13%. | ||
| It's more offensive to s to me to lose a lion like Anna over something that she felt so passionate about. | ||
| You're out of all the members of Congress, she's one of the few people who actually sit there and fight for the American people every single day on a national platform. | ||
| She defends the president, she does her job more than you know, more than 90% of the representatives right now. | ||
| No, I don't want some loser from uh a member of Congress that does absolutely nothing, sits there lining in their pocketbooks, doing whatever they want, and and being silent on the issues that matter, be in Congress and get a baby. | ||
| And I'm sure she does. | ||
| And then voting in Congress. | ||
| That was a particular issue that she was passionate about. | ||
| And she was wrong and it's shockingly offensive that she would dare try. | ||
| But to say, okay, well, I think it's shockingly offensive that we would completely disregard somebody like her over everything that she has done. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| Disregard her. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| You said she you called on her to resign. | ||
| If she wants, if she cannot work because she has a baby, then she should resign. | ||
| That was over a certain amount of weeks here. | ||
| I don't disagree, you would vote against it. | ||
| Can we read more super chats against me? | ||
| Uh yeah, I'm just saying I want to talk about voting online. | ||
| The position is I struggle to do this job because I have a baby, so why should we have to work from home? | ||
| Quit your job. | ||
| All right. | ||
| It's just Luke, it's just literally everybody. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| I'm I love it. | ||
| This one says Luke is gay. | ||
| Read that one again. | ||
| I'm kidding, it doesn't say that. | ||
| Uh what does this one say? | ||
| Um Jake says, Luke needs to remember his shirt says America runs on blackmail. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It does. | ||
| The best political shirts.com. | ||
| But isn't that evil? | ||
| Aren't you using evil to sell t-shirts? | ||
| Uh what are you talking about? | ||
| You're saying something you don't believe in. | ||
| What kind of Ianism did you just pull off the street? | ||
| You're saying something you don't believe in. | ||
| That's another one, Ian. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Or that you don't want. | ||
| You're like, you're like using the negativity to sell t-shirts. | ||
| Face reality, please. | ||
| I just did, and you're you're looking at me. | ||
| Katoff swears Luca's ignorant. | ||
| Peace comes from the barrel. | ||
| That's Chairman Mao. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I I'm not I'm not the biggest fan of uh the communist that kid killed tens of millions of people. | ||
| But do you believe that peace is derived through strength? | ||
| And that means weapons of the day. | ||
| I I think there's a two prong approach here, like I said before. | ||
| The answer is more nuanced carrot stick. | ||
| And it's that simple. | ||
| I think peace. | ||
| We need more diplomacy. | ||
| We need more carriers. | ||
| Pieces derived through force, but it's sustained through diplomacy. | ||
| All right, everybody. | ||
| We're getting close to that time, so smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know. | ||
| You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. | ||
| We're gonna have segments up throughout the weekend. | ||
| And all next week, it is going to a special be a special treat for all of you. | ||
| And I'm saying that because what I'm actually telling you is I'm not gonna be there. | ||
| We have a series of guest hosts. | ||
| It's gonna be a whole lot of fun. | ||
| I'll give you a hint. | ||
| Um without saying too much, I'll just shout out Matt Gates. | ||
| It's gonna be awesome. | ||
| I'm gonna be doing a bunch of promo stuff, which I neglect all the time by traveling. | ||
| And so I'll be doing that. | ||
| Follow me on X and Instagram, all that good stuff. | ||
| Catalina, do you want to shout anything out? | ||
| Follow me at Catalina Lauf on all platforms. | ||
| Catalina for Congress. | ||
| If you want to fight her in office, and uh we're gonna be making shirts now that St. Luke has Trump Drang syndrome. | ||
| Uh they will be available on the cards. | ||
| They'll be available on our website soon. | ||
| Which is Catalina for Congress.com. | ||
| I have another great slogan. | ||
| Bomb bomb bomb Iran. | ||
| I think that's a good one too. | ||
| We're also gonna do women belong in the kitchen and in Congress, because I believe that we can do both. | ||
| Uh we can make sandwiches and pass legislation. | ||
| This was fun. | ||
| Thank you so much for engaging in this debate in this conversation. | ||
| Uh most of my best friends I argue with like this, so I appreciate the very lively conversation. | ||
| It was really fun. | ||
| If you guys want to have the conversation with me, you can on YouTube.com forward slash we are change. | ||
| I always have a very fun time uh debating, conversing with people. | ||
| So I'm all open to changing my mind. | ||
| If you want to support me, uh you can get the shirt on the best political shirts.com and I have a great uh supplement store. | ||
| We are change.shop. | ||
| This is gonna be it for me for Timcast IRL for now. | ||
| And uh I look forward to hopefully. | ||
| Yeah, we're we're banning him because he has Trump derangement syndrome. | ||
| No panickings at the table. | ||
| Um I'm you take you you you're pissing me off. | ||
| Your constant warm up. | ||
| I'm sick of this. | ||
| I'm not gonna take it. | ||
| I'm sick of the graphene crap. | ||
| Well, whatever you say I disagree with, so enough of you. | ||
| Just kidding, by the way. | ||
| I love this guy. | ||
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But we're we'll brewing some beef at the moment, and it's gonna be tasty. | |
| We'll we'll handle this out in the parking lot. | ||
| Follow us both. | ||
| I'm Ian Crossland, real tape brown on Twitter. | ||
| But what do you gotta say, brother? | ||
| Keep fighting, never surrender. | ||
| Um, okay. | ||
| I see the chemistry of you too. | ||
| What's your what where are they following you at Ian Crosslin and Ed Ian Crosslin is on everywhere and at RealTate Brown everywhere. | ||
| All right, it's time to get out of here, guys. | ||
| Thank you so much for hanging out. | ||
| This has been an awesome week. | ||
| Shout out to the turning point team for hosting us and the guys, uh, Andrew Colvitt, Jack Pasobic, and the Charlie Kirk Show. | ||
| It means the world to me to that you had us out here. | ||
| You supported us to to come and collaborate with you in this way. | ||
| See, I said collaborate. | ||
| So I really do appreciate it. | ||
| Next week's gonna be a blast with a bunch of guest hosts. | ||
| It's gonna get wild. |
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