A suspicious package was detonated in Utah at a university where a TPUSA event was supposed to take place.
Apparently, this was a hoax, a threat, and the bomb squad was called in because they weren't entirely sure.
But we're getting the details now on exactly what happened.
So obviously, we'll talk about that, why it's happening.
Apparently, there were many other bomb threats called in across Utah.
With that, there's a lot to talk about with Trump deploying National Guard, supplementing federal agents in various cities, and how the left is going to respond to it.
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I'm not sure exactly if it was local police or campus.
There were a lot of units and various agencies that were there protecting the turning point event.
But what you're hearing is them using a device to render it safe and neutralize whatever would have been inside.
What I've been told since, so that was not the bomb exploding or something like that.
What I've been told is that it looks like this was a hoax bomb device.
So this was not just a suspicious package that was left out.
It was actually a package that had some wires associated with it, things like that, where it was designed to look like a bomb.
And that also there was a bomb threat called into the campus at the same time, so concurrent.
And what it looks like is that they were trying to get a full campus-wide evacuation and then a lockdown to try to interfere with the turning point event that was taking place.
Now, that old main building is not the building where the turning point event is going on and will continue to go on, which is on the other end of campus.
That building is under complete lockdown by, as I just said, we've got state, local, federal agencies that are there protecting the event and the students today.
So, because that was under such lockdown, it seems that whoever was trying to do this didn't have any access to the arena where that's taking place.
And what they instead did was try to attack another building that didn't have the same security posture and use that to try to create this disturbance.
So, well, that building was evacuated.
The event's gone on.
Everybody is safe.
First responders absolutely hats off to everybody that was willing to put themselves into harm's way to do what they did to take measures to make sure that that device was, in fact, not an explosive device, keep everybody safe.
But just unfortunately, that's the times that we're living in.
And I also heard that report as well that there were other universities around Utah, not where Turning Point's holding events.
We're only holding one event tonight.
We've got Alex Clark, we've got the governor there.
So, of course, state police are out in full force, a number of other officials.
And so, you know, and it, and we had people who were even inside that event who didn't know about the bomb threats.
We called in, hey, guys, are you all right?
They said, All right, from what?
You know, we're just out here.
They've got volunteers, you know, putting placards up and putting signs on chairs and things like that.
So, we let them know what was going on.
They said, No.
And then, you know, we've been able to sort of back channel since then, but it looks like something went on where multiple campuses around the state were.
I know every, I know you did, but Steven Crowder has brought back Change My Mind.
And he went out today.
He posted a video of this.
It is brave to say the least, but Stephen told me something a week or so ago.
We did an hour-long show together, and he said he feels bad.
He feels guilty because when he was doing these events, he did not explain the threats and the violence he was facing.
He downplayed it.
And I think largely the reason he and many others, especially on the right, have not spoken about the threats and the violence they face is because we are constantly told you don't want to feed it.
If you come out and you say these things are happening, you're going to make it worse.
And what ends up happening is Crowder does these events.
He rarely, only when it's on camera, when like when it actually happens, does he talk about it?
And usually he doesn't.
The same thing is true for us.
Like I've been saying, you know, we had that year where we got swatted 15 times.
It's never stopped.
We just don't talk about it anymore because security says it's probably not a good idea.
But the problem then is the perception most people have is, oh, they're fine.
Nothing's really going on.
And now, how has it gotten to the point where we are once again opening a show talking about a man that we miss who was taken from us by violent psychopath terrorists?
And another event turning point's trying to put on to talk to people.
This is very obvious that someone did this to try and shut your event down.
It gets to this point, I think, with all due respect to each and every one of us who's been involved in this, because I don't think we talk about the seriousness of the threats we face enough out of concern we'd make it worse.
In fact, that just allowed it to grow and fester and get worse.
There were, I mean, you know, just to confirm what you're saying, there were, Charlie was getting death threats on a regular basis, even when, you know, he calls the summer kind of like his offseason because that's when school's out of session.
But he would get threats all the time.
Obviously, you guys are here.
You've seen the security posture, which we have upped at the Turning Point facility since this took place.
And in fact, we were in the process of reconfiguring and enhancing and escalating the security presence here on the Turning Point campus, which, and you guys, I'm sure we don't have to go into it right now, but you're sure you saw all the security that we have out now, the 24/7, the monitoring, the technical, and even stuff that you don't see.
That was, they were in the so Charlie was in the process of doing that here locally, hardening this facility when this happened.
And so people were saying, oh, how come there's construction going on?
It's like, well, no, we were in the process of doing that when we lost him, when he was murdered.
And so this has been something that has gone on.
Now, obviously, look, people have seen publicly, though, that people like, you know, when Riley Gaines was essentially detained by Antifa, you know, a couple of years back, when Olivia Kralchik was attacked on campus, when Charlie has gone to events on campus and there's been these huge attacks, call it Antifa, call it left-wing groups, whatever you will.
These are clearly coordinated, violent events that were going on.
And it just wasn't taken seriously.
It just wasn't taken seriously, I think, by law enforcement in general.
Obviously, the previous administration didn't have any interest in going up against these groups and in many cases facilitated these groups.
And they still will sit there and claim that these things don't exist when we still have to deal with it on a regular basis.
I don't know how this, you know, as Phil Labonte says, where there's no off-ramp.
And it's fascinating.
The response was, especially after Charlie was killed, that Charlie was the off-ramp.
He was going out and saying, let's talk about it.
And he was talking with a lot of run-of-the-mill libs who were asking him questions.
And I think this is what was so scary and is scary to these libs and these leftists is that once people actually got a chance to talk to Charlie, they were like, oh, okay, this is not crazy.
These are not far right.
These are not a threat.
And this is one of the motivating factors for why I think they want to stop these turning point events.
And it's this idea of, well, people would sit there and say, and people do this all the time.
They'll say, oh, well, Charlie said something on, you know, on one of your podcasts, or he said something about MLK.
And I know the whole litany of things that they say, and it's always out of context.
But the point being is that even if you disagree with Charlie or even if you think that he got his facts wrong or something, you know, what better place to hash that out than in a literal conversation on a college campus?
I mean, this is the modern and classical public square.
We're going to go.
We're going to be on campus.
He titled these things, you know, Prove Me Wrong, as in, I, and if you disagreed, and I know it's been said, but it really needs to be to be pounded in that if you disagreed with him, he would say, please come to the front of the line.
And if people started heckling, he'd be like, hey, stop that.
No more, no heckling.
If someone was nervous, if they were reading, he would say, it's okay.
I mean, he, there is nothing else he could have done to try to facilitate this kind of debate.
And as, and Tim, you know, to your point as well, I know you've talked about so many times that it's so hard to find people on the other side who are willing to even sit down and debate like that.
Well, I think that's why Bill Maher made the statements he did just a few days ago saying, hey, this left-wing violence is insane and it's crazy.
He's one of the few people that actually is speaking out against it.
John Fetterman as well, he just came out and talked about how left-wing terrorism is at a 30-year high, and he's demanding people stop calling conservatives Hitler and fascists.
So this has been building and brewing for a very long time.
Tim, you've been calling it out.
I know I've been looking at this for a very long time.
Ever since Occupy Wall Street, they were playing up on these type of differences amongst race.
And when we see Ilhad and Olmar a couple years ago now issuing the same lines like Don Laman talking about how evil white men are, this brings up, even though they love white men and are married to white men themselves.
These individuals clearly are spreading a rhetoric that is meant to dehumanize people.
It's meant to devalue them.
It's meant to destroy conversations from ever happening because you're Hitler, you're fascist.
You're supposed to be someone that's going to be killing me and hurting me.
That's their type of emotionally manipulated, gaslit type of viewpoint, which is deranged and insane and only going to become more deranged, especially with all the SSRIs and seed oils that they take.
That's going to destroy their guts and their gut lining is going to be destroyed and then their minds are going to be.
And then you look at John Fetterman, I wish he would have had some more words for Josh Shapiro in the city of Philadelphia where they just flew the flag of China over the city yesterday.
Well, and it's like you were saying earlier, I mean, the fact that they, it's like pulling teeth to get them to even show up to these debates just shows that there's already been this culture on the left of just giving up on civil discourse anyway.
So it's not really a surprise that they're getting more and more violent, especially now with the Trump administration.
They feel like they're in the back foot.
They feel like they're cornered.
Of course they're going to lash out because there's already this culture of giving up on civil discourse.
Like, if you're law enforcement, you want to pay attention to the situation, but obviously until it escalates, you don't want to put a sniper on somebody that you're already doing.
Nick Shirley is the most peaceful guy you will ever meet in the game.
He's a guy who does incredible work.
He goes in some of the most violent areas and he's always completely chill.
He doesn't get in anybody's face.
He doesn't bother anybody.
He's, you know, very, very peaceful.
He just reports.
And yet, this Antifa goon is able to walk up and threaten to kill him, could have killed him.
And, you know, I just don't understand how we've got to this point.
Like, what is the federal government doing?
I get that we've got deployments.
Guys, we do not have positive control of the streets if you're allowing thugs and domestic terrorists like this psychopath to be able to do that to a guy like Nick.
I mean, since the escalation of the culture war with the battle for Berkeley and all that stuff, we started seeing these clashes.
It has been non-stop that people on the right or anti-establishment press, not even anti-establishment, it was non-establishment press, are threatened with violence and death, don't fight back.
And we are now in the second Trump term.
He could have done something in the first term.
He's not.
What are they doing right now?
I mean, I like this.
At the bare minimum, pointing at him saying, we are watching you.
And they have started making arrests.
I like that the feds are being deployed.
I like the National Guard being deployed.
I think they should just go out and say, straight up, you are not.
This is not a peaceful protest.
You will be arrested.
We're going to arrest you.
54321, you're under arrest.
People showing up to Portland threatening to kill journalists.
And in a post-Charlie Kirk world, we all have to under, we have to understand that someone like that wearing black in a mask is a violent and potentially lethal threat.
I don't know if he is or not, but even if you have a security, security is going to tell you because I've dealt with this problem because I love being out there.
I love being able to do it.
No, we all do it on the street reporting.
I can't do it anymore because you become the story.
I don't want to become the story.
I just want to document the story.
Security is going to hold you back and say, you know, sorry, you can't go in there.
And they won't protect you and they can't protect you in these type of situations, especially when you have one, two, three, four, five people, six people, 20 people gather all around you.
You're kind of screwed.
And I've been in those situations too, where they just kind of surround you and they're like, you're a fascist.
In Germany, they were calling me.
And I'm like, I'm the Polish guy.
And you got Germans calling me a Nazi.
And I'm like, I'm like, get out of here.
And then, of course, they pounced on me.
And then the cop's like, yeah, sorry, kid, get out of here.
So the dynamic that we're dealing with right now is that while the right, you know, on, you know, on par per capita has more firearms, but the left is the one that's willing to use violence.
And the left is the one that's willing to break the law and go out there and climb up on a roof and shoot someone in the neck.
And unfortunately, and the right is saying, hey, law enforcement, federal, state, local, which, by the way, at Utah worked really well.
So I don't want to sound like I'm putting down all of them, but it's like, it's like, we don't want to go to that place.
Whereas the left is saying, we don't care what the law is.
You're a fascist.
And by the way, that's what they mean when they say you are a fascist.
I'm trying very careful to keep this within YouTube guidelines.
But what they're saying is you are next on the list.
It was a complete lie that are a complete lie, baseless lie that the Groipers had anything to do with Charlie Kirk's murder.
It was, and it was done.
And by the way, though, it was done in such a way that Jami Kimmel, who came out and spread a version of that lie, that it was the MAGA right who did this.
And by the way, that's why I, you know, when I saw Joe Rogan laughing about it and that clip of me kind of blew up, I was like, well, look, I don't think this is a laughing matter because what you're doing is you're painting a target on the backs of anyone on the right saying you are the violent ones and the left are not violent.
And it has been, this was a disinformation operation, and it was done so acutely that there was probably something like 30% or more.
And I think some of the UGOV polls came out on this, that said that the left even think it was a liberal.
Or excuse me, excuse me.
30% of liberals thought that it was a conservative who shot Carli Curtis.
I mean, I am kidding, of course, but like he said the joke was funny because he mocked Trump for not grieving properly.
And my response to that bit was like when Trump was asked about it and then said, look, we're doing construction or whatever, it's like, oh, did Trump just not hear?
Some 100,000 federal workers are set to formally quit the U.S. government in what will constitute the largest mass resignation of government workers in U.S. history.
The resignations, which come as part of the program drawn up by President Donald Trump at the start of the second administration, will happen on Tuesday as Congress is facing a deadline on the same day to authorize more funding or risk government shutdown.
If there is no deal, the White House has ordered federal agencies to make plans for the large-scale redundancies.
I love this, though.
They're like, why it matters?
The loss of federal workers will have huge impacts on operations across different parts of government and could disrupt services, including the Department of Veterans Affairs and the Social Security Administration.
And no, no, no, hold on.
Why did they bring up those two departments?
Because they are attacking boomers intentionally who they think won't look into this and aren't paying attention.
The 100,000 workers will disrupt everything.
So why is Newsweek specifically highlighting SSA and the VA?
They want boomers who are dependent on these things to be angry at Donald Trump, which explains why when I think it was Real Clear Politics put out their age support for Trump by age, the only age bracket that was anti-Trump was 70 plus.
Every other age bracket was pro-Trump, except for I think 40-year-olds who are neutral.
This is why they do it.
I don't think it's going to work out for them very well because, and I mean this with all due respect to boomers.
I don't want to be crass and crude when I say this, but they're at what's called the mortality shelf, the mortality cliff.
Oldest boomers are now 79 years old.
That's mortality.
So, what is being predicted now is within the next five years, we'll see something like 40 to 60 percent of boomers leave, in a manner of speaking, die.
So, this mainstream media attempt at pandering to the super boomers, as Jack described them, it's not going to apply for much longer.
And what we're seeing now with Gen Z, and this does tie back into what we're seeing with the violence in the streets, TPUSA rallying young people, showing them the right path.
I think the future of this country is moving in the right direction.
And, you know, and it just saying that, and specifically cited the inspiration, Paul Feinbaum, yeah.
And he said, look, you know, them taking out Charlie made me step up and realize that maybe there's some things that are more important that I've been putting off.
And to walk away from something like that is just amazing.
Just to go back to this story, the real question I have for you guys, I suppose, is, what do you think the ramifications of 100,000 federal workers quitting is going to be?
Yeah, yeah, where he just all kind of realized that, you know, hey, wait a minute.
As it turns out, the American people made their voices heard.
And Charlie Kirk was a huge part of that in the swing states and the deployments that came out, the trainings that were done from Turning Point Action, going to youth, going to those low propensity voters, figuring out, and Tyler Boyer, of course, figuring out the formula to say, how do we go to people who have never voted before and get them interested in politics?
And if we do that, that's different than saying, oh, we're getting a guy who's voted for Trump before.
We're going to get someone who's never voted.
And so when you look at it in terms of political mathematics, that's all profit.
That's all net gain.
So how do we go to particularly young men, young women as well, but particularly young men?
Charlie understood that that's who he identified as that leading edge.
And you've seen it in poll after poll.
Young Gen Z men breaking for Trump, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and then, of course, right here in Arizona as well.
And you can see the efforts play out because Arizona had the biggest swing from 2020 to 2024.
And that's because of Charlie Kirk and Turning Point.
What made Charlie so powerful is his ability to speak into the heart and soul of people being able to tap into ethics, morals, and have them self-governing so that their convictions weren't just on a news cycle.
It was something much deeper than that.
And that's why the spiritual practices that he had were so powerful.
And so you go back and you look at all these nuances, what made him the man that he was and is today.
And it was all about deep personal devotion to God that makes you immovable when it comes to things pertaining to the conscience and morality to hold to things like the Ten Commandments, which the Sabbath was so important to Charlie.
So it used to be that Charlie was always very accessible by phone.
He was a just a texting addict.
I asked him once, I said, how many texts do you send a day?
Because when I'd spend time with him, he's just constantly, right?
Just like Tim right now.
And he would say, probably about a thousand.
He just said, probably about a thousand.
And except on Saturdays.
So if you wanted to get hold of Charlie on a Saturday, you would have to go to Erica.
And that's only emergencies only.
And, you know, we rarely would ever do that.
It was he would take Saturday off of his phone and it would be pretty much pretty much Friday night into Saturday night, Sunday morning.
Is there was no phone and he would unplug and it was all family time or reading or being with the Bible.
And, you know, it just kind of hit me that, you know, on this past Saturday that it's, I was, I was thinking like, oh, I got to text Charlie this thing.
And I was like, oh, wait, it is Saturdays because my normal routine kicked in.
So it's Saturday, so I can't text him.
But then it kicked in again that every day is Saturday now.
Stop in the name of God, Why Honoring the Sabbath Will Transform Your Life.
And this, if you look at the historical relevance of this, it was everything to do with people having deep devotion to God.
And it was the underpinning, like, because what did Charlie stand for?
The utmost morality.
He was trying his very best to be moral in all categories, defending life.
And then, you know, speaking about sexual impurity, debating the OnlyFans Girls, all these different things that were so important.
And the underpinning of them, that you look at the Ten Commandments, the Sabbath is the one that acknowledges God as the source of all things and says, remember the Sabbath to keep it holy.
Six days shall you labor and do all of your work, but the seventh day, the Sabbath of the Lord your God, in it you shall do no work.
And that devotion gave people historically strength to withstand all types of oppression and persecution.
Millions of people gave their lives because they were unwilling to surrender this day of worship because it was their allegiance to God and it was for Charlie.
And I think that that's something that people can really think about because it will cement morals and values so deeply in people that they will not be willing to let this country turn to trash.
Remember, illegal aliens don't vote, but then the illegal alien who was found to be a school board supervisor in Iowa is actually registered to vote in Maryland since 2012, and he's not a U.S. citizen at all.
And I think when we uncover things like this, where you got a guy working as a superintendent getting paid low, mid-six figures, I think it's probably way crazier than that.
We got another story we'll get to in a little bit about how in Minnesota they found half of all of these people were these migrants were committing immigration fraud to come to the United States.
I think there was a raid or something and they set up a checkpoint for CDLs.
And I want to say it was Oklahoma just this week or the report came out this week and they found something like 100 drivers in like in one raid in just one checkpoint that evening.
So if you can find that in one operation, I mean, again, do the math.
Like how many truckers do we have in this country and how many should we should not be on the roads in this country?
Just obviously you're driving a semi down the road and we all see them.
And honestly, like I'm just going to say it.
I've noticed in my lifetime that used to be that guys who were driving a semi truck drivers, like they were typically like some of the safest drivers on the road.
Like I remember growing up and it was great and you could, you know, you like get them to the horn, you know, and they were just fun.
My dad was really big into CB radio.
So we were always talking, even though he didn't drive a truck, but we were always talking to truckers and things like that because they use CB.
And, you know, we all had handles and stuff.
And I feel like that whole culture is gone now.
And when you see one of those things driving down the road, the first thing I do is think, I got to get away from it because they drive so unsafely whenever you see them now.
And so what's true, though, is that, no, Tim, government prot, Tim Kane, government protects your rights.
Government is supposed to be, you know, in a working system, the reason that you have government is, say, you have the right to, well, let's take Charlie's example, the right to exist.
And when you have a group of people that exist to oppress you and take away your right to exist, then you can't have dialogue with them.
So your right to exist, your right to freedom of speech, you're, you know, and we have the whole litany of protected rights that just because, and the Constitution itself even says in the Bill of Rights, these rights are not the only rights you have.
They are just the rights that we have written down specifically here because they are so important that we want to make sure they are enshrined.
This happened to my mother in Malaysia like 45 years ago under the Islamic government.
And people don't realize how oppressive it can be If you do not have the right to practice your faith the way that you need to do that and to have your conscience and to serve God and not have the governments usurp that so that people that are arguing for these ideals or these paradigms in a godless manner or seeking to oppress the freedom of the conscience.
My mom, the newspapers at the time, she got arrested and had a passport taken off her so she couldn't actually even escape the country.
And the Australian newspaper said, Islamic woman converts to Christianity, is the death penalty possible.
And that was exactly what was invoked with my mother simply because she wanted to change her beliefs.
And we need to have systems that support our ability to practice our faith freely.
And by a series of three miracles, she actually escaped, which is incredible.
One of which she was visited on foot by a gentleman that explained to her that the indoctrination camp that she did get sentenced to, she was going to get executed at.
And he left on foot.
You know, this was a non-publicized case.
How did he know this?
It was just a judge in the room that sentenced her.
And now she's got this intel she needs to escape.
And then two other miracles happen.
And so it's look, personal faith, the ability to practice these things, understanding that when people seek to oppress your freedom and how you seek to enter into discourse, the freedom by which you can dialogue, these are things that we need to fight for.
No one's ever talked to the, so this is general officer, flag officer, so generals and admirals on the Navy side and Coast Guard, if they have any admirals there.
That just, again, no one's ever talked to them like that.
They have so much power within the military system.
They are considered just the highest of the highest, staff upon staff upon staff.
And depending, and they're constantly competing with one another.
The vast majority of them who came up during the Obama years and then the Biden years looked down on Trump.
We've seen all of the military political correctness that was put out.
Darren Beattie did a huge piece on this on Revolver and was talking about this, how they were specifically getting rid of people.
And in many cases, through the military war colleges, you would find that under Obama, really starting with Obama won, that they promoted from within people who had the right kind of politics.
So people learned to parrot critical race theory or DEI or all of these, you know, climate change, whatever the various things were.
LGBT, make sure you push all this stuff or you won't make rank.
You won't be able to get all the way up there.
And so that's what they all did.
They all just went along with it.
And they're sitting, and suddenly they're sitting there going, like, wait, who are you to tell us this?
You know, you didn't do any of that stuff.
Well, he's the president of the United States and actually he's your commander in chief.
You're not the commander.
He's the one that the American people voted for and delegated sovereign authority over the United States military and all other sovereign powers of the executive too.
These are generals who are willing to say and do anything for political power.
These are the people who would follow any order without any shred of conscience.
Donald Trump should fire these people.
We want brave men and women who are going to stand up truly for what they believe in and for this country, not just hire overweight people to fill quotas so they can get political points and advance their career.
I mean, I'd be totally fine with firing the vast majority of them.
America would be better off.
I mean, you've got, you've got a problem with the force in terms of not just the, so the 07 level and above, but 07 to 010.
But you've got this across the government because those systems that I just talked about where the Obamas and then the Biden admin just went on steroids with this, plus, you know, they were getting rid of people over COVID.
Those people, even if they come back, they're never going to be on their career leadership track again.
And so what they did is they set up an incentive structure for you to quote unquote be liberal, be a leftist, and then you could make rank.
How about Hag Seth just says, okay, those guys that stood up for what they believed in and refused and either resigned or were like, oh, come back and we're going to bump you up.
I like cleaning the streets of Baltimore or there's that video going around of, I guess it was the, you know, it wasn't the military, but it was Border Patrol, and they were up armored going down that one bridge in Chicago over the river and they're right in front of Trump Hotel.
It's every single American city that has become completely lawless.
That's completely, it's, and, you know, you talk about Portland and the Nick Shirley video, but it's every city.
It's you can't have this anymore.
We saw what happened in North Carolina, and it's on purpose.
These crooks, well, it's absolutely on purpose.
It is a system called anarcho-tyranny, whereby an anarchy is allowed out on the streets to cow and terrify.
It is domestic terrorism against your own populace to say these criminals will be allowed out 39 times was the one Elon was tweeting about earlier today, and he executed this.
I think that was South Carolina.
And her father came out and executed this girl on her knees.
I would not be able to just sit down and have a situation if something like that happened.
And the point is, you will support the tyranny because the anarchy keeps you in check because you're so scared.
But one of the big pieces of this, too, is that governors have sovereignty in this country, not mayors.
Mayors and cities do not have sovereignty.
And yes, there's a lot of home rule charters that were passed in the 1970s, but constitutionally, that is not sound at all.
Under every state's law, the governor has sole sovereign authority of each state.
And so when you've got these states, like at least South Carolina now, I know North Carolina has a Democrat governor and a Democrat AG, but in a place like South Carolina or Texas or, you know, take your pick, the governor's just got to start coming in.
It's not full anarchy because people who defend themselves are prosecuted by the George Soros discussion.
That's an archaeology.
It's not enforced where the government just stays out of the way.
The government makes sure that when you stand up for yourself and you get attacked by these gangs that are approved by the state and have the state causes that they fight for, just like the Chavistas in Venezuela, the state always protects the people who are committing the crimes on behalf of the establishment, but the people who defend themselves have to fight back.
It's the culture of knowing that you could get away with this stuff and they won't do anything to you.
That's right.
And if there was a culture of, oh, people are able to carry firearms, people are able to defend themselves.
If there wasn't national public examples of people defending themselves that are getting in trouble, the situation would be different and criminals would be thinking a lot different than they are.
I think the only way to get to the real root of this issue is exactly what Charlie would do to have discourse with people to help people navigate to their true north because violence will always exist unless there is a deeper philosophy, a belief, a morality that transcends that and that gives people a reason not to do those things, not to violate somebody else.
And if you, I was doing some research last night on JD Unwin, who was from Oxford.
He was looking at what happens over societies.
He studied 81 different societies and looked at the moral, firstly, the sexual revolutions that would happen.
And then three generations down, the society would become so worthless and so degraded that they would become overthrown by another group.
And he was not Christian as well, or he certainly was not known to be.
And so he was commenting on this of this of this big issue.
And if you look, we're, you know, three generations from the free love and the free sex movement, which was a complete degradation of Christian values and the product we have, we're seeing it today.
And to bring people back to that true north, because again, you look at the Ten Commandments, it says blatantly, thou shalt not kill.
And these are the things that they shall not murder.
Yeah, you got you.
Yeah, that one's a deep one.
And the part on that that I'm sure that we'd agree on, that people taking these matters into their own hands and going out to the streets and doing violent things.
I mean, what Lee Kuan Yew did in Singapore right next door is, you know, he took an area that was a complete backwater port and turned it into one of the four Asian tigers.
And he did so through, you know, this imposition of a very strict legal system that was that was applied across the board.
It was applied across the board.
It didn't matter what rung of society you were from, that if you broke the laws or if you were an American tourist, guess what?
This is going to be applied to you.
And he took that and he made it this shining example of one of the most dynamic cities and robust cities in the world.
The optics were terrible, meaning all of our top military brass are all in one place, and we spent $6 million to get them there.
That didn't make a lot of sense to me.
It also didn't make a lot of sense to me that he was saying that he was going to toughen physical standards and review the anti-hazing policy by sort of implementing a hazing policy.
And then also he said he was going to return to the highest male standard for combat positions because the troops were fat.
I don't understand how that was supposed to be an uplifting message for our military.
Remember when they hunted down members of the military's social media profiles to figure out if they'd posted things like the Gadsden flag and they'd been reprimanded or even kicked out?
Well, so when Pete Hegseth himself wrote an entire book about how during the post-Gen 6 deployment, when our entire military occupied Washington, D.C., and Biden's inauguration was not attended by anyone, that they came up with a list.
And this is where the military purge came from, the Patriot purge, that they came up with a list of hot button issues, controversial issues that could be indicators for extremism.
And some of those, and those people were not allowed to participate in this deployment to Gen 6, which included Pete Hegseth himself, by the way, because of his Christian cross tattoo, his Jerusalem cross.
I once went down the rabbit hole on General Milley, and I went down like all the public photos and photojournalism that's been released by the Pentagon and all their units.
I've never been able to find a single picture of him doing PT.
Like not even one.
Not just on, not even like a fun run kind of thing.
I think, honestly, this is a, it really does feel often the culture war is male versus female.
And you look at the view and they have a very female view, this very emotional social view of how the military should be run.
We should have a diverse rainbow.
Everyone holds hands and gets along and don't be mean.
And then the masculine view is you should be chewing on dirt and crawling through razor wire to be the best man you can be, an efficient killing machine for war.
And one of them is appropriate for warfighters and one of them is not.
I'm being told there are 6,000 patriots assembled in Utah right now.
Let's go.
And by the way, we should, you know, just to contextualize this, this is the first turning point event that's been held in Utah since Charlie was murdered in Utah at a turning point event.
So this was going to be his second stop.
So what we're doing is we're continuing Charlie's tour, but with guest speakers.
And I think the vice president came out earlier today and said that he is interested in being one of those speakers.
Don Jr.
is interested.
I mean, the level is just phenomenal.
And rather than, you know, and a lot of people would say, like, why didn't you cancel the tour?
And I think, and I speak for everybody here in the sense that we've talked about this and we know Charlie wouldn't want us to.
And so you see the response.
You see 6,000 patriots, even in the face of a bomb threat, even knowing that there was a murder just a couple of weeks ago, three weeks ago.
I think it'll be three weeks tomorrow, that, you know, just however many miles away in the same state, that they're still willing to do so in the face of terrorism.
So no, actually, your attack failed.
It completely failed because more and more people are showing up to turning point events and turning point is going to be bigger than it had ever been before.
Yeah, no, I think that I think there's a there's a whiteboard on the other side of the room here where they keep a running tally, but it got to the point where they can't even update the whiteboard fast enough because there's so many chapters and requests that are coming.
And by the way, these are chapters requests, so not just people.
That's a secret because we were talking about this the other night where I said, you got these red pill bros that are like, no, you can't get married, man.
It was before Martin Luther, the Catholic monk that was the Protestant reformer in the 1500s.
There was somebody that was being martyred And in the flames, right?
So he was being burnt at the stake, which was common.
He said these words: you cannot kill us, for the blood of a martyr is seed.
And then you see this, like the effect and just the utter horror of people having a realization of what is happening to this country.
What is the attack on the innocence of somebody entering into dialogue, somebody that wanted to elevate everyone that he came in contact with and respectfully dialogue with them?
And then to see that life taken and just like it, it reminded it brought up all the feelings of when I first came to a Christian faith and witnessed Jesus on the cross and that effect that that had on me and how it just propelled me and changed me and what made me want to be better, made me want to do better, made me want to break free from addiction and break free from pornography addiction, made me want to be better.
Nearly half of all immigrants in the Minneapolis-St.
Paul Twin Cities were found to have committed some form of immigration fraud during a recent sweep by immigration authorities.
Officers encountered blatant marriage fraud, visa overstay, people claiming to work at businesses that can't be found, forged documents, abuse of the H-1B visa system, abuse of the F-1 visa, and many other discrepancies.
Officials didn't point to a specific group, but the Twin Cities has seen a massive uptick in Somali refugees and immigrants in recent years, with more than 82,000 from the East African country living in Minnesota.
So committing immigration fraud is, and education fraud as well, is grounds for having your citizenship revoked and being denaturalized.
Every naturalized citizen knows this.
They all know it is one of the penalties.
And so, yeah, so if you lose your citizenship, then yes, you can be deported and you have to be deported because you don't have a citizenship.
Remember, she was a citizen of Somalia.
She came over as a war refugee.
Her father was on the losing side of a coup there.
And she comes to the United States.
And there's a lot of documentary evidence about something very strange going on with a man who.
And remember, these stories about, you know, we make the, you know, the jokes about the brother stuff.
Those stories originally came from the Somali community in Minnesota.
There were, you know, there were blogs and rumors, and this all came up and said, well, wait a minute.
And, you know, there's different naming conventions.
They have tribal naming conventions, which are different than sort of like the Western, you know, first name, last name that we're used to in the U.S.
And so people are coming up and saying, wait a minute, this guy doesn't have the same last name, but actually, if you understand the naming convention, he is her brother.
And here's this marriage document.
And, you know, again, a lot of these questions, a lot of this needs to get investigated.
And here you have the USCIS director saying we found rampant fraud in immigration, specifically marriage fraud.
And everyone knows, of course, that marriage is, the green card marriage, this is something that's rampant because it puts you on the fast track to citizenship.
Well, so, and that's the challenge because I was reading, I've been, I've been reading a lot about, as I mentioned this before, French Revolution, Spanish Revolution, and Bleeding Kansas.
One argument as to why we're actually in a civil war is fifth generational warfare, meaning psychological manipulation, resource depletion, and strategies like that indicate there's a real fight for power.
However, in terms of raw violence, it looks very much like bleeding Kansas.
Yeah, so this, when we wrote the book on humans, where we talked about that, and people would say, you know, this question about are we in a communist revolution?
Is it leading towards a civil war de-ciciviliz?
And, you know, people would push back at us and say, well, wait, we're not seeing things like the French Revolution or the Spanish Civil War, the Bolshevik Revolution taking place.
And the argument that we made is that because warfare has changed since those times, which were in many cases 100 years ago, 100 plus years ago, that we shouldn't expect it to necessarily look like it did in the past.
And by the way, thank God it doesn't, right?
Because these were absolutely horrific.
But we are seeing a fifth generation wave of a communist revolution, this asymmetric warfare that's gone on.
It includes censorship.
It includes chuntings.
It includes political arrests and absolutely includes political assassinations, like the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
And you see direct parallels as well to Bleeding Kansas, as you just mentioned, where it sort of became this free-for-all where there was violence, there was reprisal violence, and then it just spilled over.
You know what's fascinating is how do you move a river is the issue.
And the flow of culture in this country and the direction that's going is that at some point the river bifurcated.
And as much as there have been people, and I'm not talking about myself, I'm talking about these other journalists and writers who have warned we're on the path of a civil war.
There seems to be no way to resolve it because, I mean, what?
Trump's not going to agree to go to prison for no reason, just because they say he should.
And they're not going to back down because they're ideologically driven and they want Trump in prison.
There's no stop.
It's an immovable object, an unstoppable force.
The Democrats are the unstoppable force.
The right is the immovable object.
So it seems like no matter what you say, and even if you do take it seriously, the only real way to take something like this seriously is to, like, I don't know, bury a shipping container underground and get a generator and then prepare for the worst.
Well, I mean, that's why the Trump administration with a total crackdown, total destruction of leftism, is the last off-ramp, because it really does feel like this is the last moment to put a lid on this.
Yeah, so, and this is the problem when you mention, you know, bleeding Kansas, that violence has the unfortunate, and you mentioned as well, you know, violence has the unfortunate tendency to spiral and beget more violence.
It escalates, and this is why you need a government to come in and put it down.
Charlie and I did an interview talking about the Bolshevik Revolution, and we just pulled it up and we're pulling up some of the old clips.
And he asked me this question.
It was so smart.
It was so insightful.
He said, Jack, how many communists were there in the early days of the Bolshevik Revolution?
I said, probably a couple thousand.
And he said, what was the population of the Russian Empire?
And I actually got it wrong in the interview, and I'll cop to that.
I said 50 million.
It was actually 100 million at the time.
Some studies say even higher.
It was also in the middle of the war, so parts of it were disputed.
But north of 100 million.
And so he was asking the question, how did so few a group of people take over a country that was so large?
And I said, because they didn't take it seriously.
By the way, it's funny you mentioned this because what did we talk about today?
What was one of the first places that the communists and the Bolsheviks infiltrated in Russia was the military?
One of the very first places they did, and they went in under the name of social reform, and they would say, these units need to be more diverse and we need people's units.
And so a lot of those original Red Army units were defectors directly from the Imperial Army of Russia.
And they would go in and they'd have one political commissar would flip over an entire unit saying, you know, the Tsar is against Russia.
You have to fight for the people to take down the Tsar.
And it eventually got to the point where when it wasn't taken seriously and it was just a couple of thousand people, these, you know, quote-unquote little bits of violence.
And Tsar Nicholas wasn't even the first Tsar who was assassinated.
But he was the last one who was assassinated because they drug him and his wife and children into a basement, shot the wife and shot his wife, shot him, and then bayoneted the children to death.
Yeah, they said that they said, look, we were just going to remove you from power, but we can't risk any of your children ever having a claim to thrones.
And particularly one of the points here is that he, like Charlie, had an observance of the Sabbath.
That if you look at Exodus, it specifically says that when they could keep these holy days, that it was a protection to them.
And it actually stopped pestilence and sword.
Actually, destruction was averted if they could keep these holy days.
It specifically says that.
And the words were, let us offer to God in the wilderness, lest he fall upon us with sword or with pestilence.
So he's saying, if we can keep this, then there will not be pestilence and sword, violence.
And if you look at DOS, right?
So if you look at Conscientious Objector was the documentary that the film was based on, six times a Japanese soldier reports that he had DOS in his crosshair.
And every time he would pull the trigger, it would jam.
Now tell me how on an escarpment where people were getting sworn in half with machine gun bullets.
It wasn't called Hacksaw Ridge.
It was called an escarpment.
They all called it Hacksaw Ridge because people's bodies were getting hacksawed in half by machine gun fire.
How did DOS get up like a meerkat?
He never crawled out of the holes like in the movie.
He just popped up like nothing was there and rescued 75 men in one night.
He was protected and by God and he brought a level of protection to all the soldiers around him, so much so that they went back into the battlefield to find his Bible and risk their lives.
And another occasion, two groups of about 40 men, he was in one and he had the ability to pray over them.
He kept the Sabbath and they let him observe that as well, which was amazing.
And then both groups come back.
Three people come back from one group of 40, his group, three or four.
In his group, no one's injured in the same regions.
So I'm saying that these personal faith aspects are protection.
I don't think it's a coincidence that Charlie had his book coming out in December, but I think that people need to read it and consider it and get close to God during these times because people will espouse Christianity, concept of Christianity, without actually letting it embody them and letting it become them and getting close to God and knowing what it's like to walk with God and have that deep faith.
And instead, they could use it and weaponize it.
And that's what I'm encouraging people to step into.
And when we look at Poland and its kind of movement against communism through solidarity, they did it through the church.
The church is the number one enemy against the communists.
We also have to remember, communists have killed a tremendous amount of people throughout recorded human history.
Exactly.
Way more than what we read in the kind of history book.
The numbers are just at least through democide.
And just understanding that kind of backdrop.
I'm always thinking about Yuri Besmanov, the former KGB agent that talked about this psychological, ideological kind of subversion that happens in four stages to destabilize societies.
I think we're at the last stage of what he particularly did.
Yeah, yeah, we're reaching a kind of tipping point where the mask is finally coming off and we're seeing the kind of true reality of the demon that really is behind big government communism, central control, top-down slavery that wants to take away free human will.
And that's why freedom, that's why capitalism, that's why sovereignty, independence is so critically important, and the virtues that we need to stand up and fight for, since the opposite of that literally wants to put the boot on your head.
But I think the part of the problem is in the short term, we have to create the conditions that would allow this sort of revival to occur because in the short term, we are dealing with people that just want to kill us.
So it's like, I totally agree.
I'm like, I'm a Christian.
I totally agree.
We need to reorient the American people towards Christ.
But in the short term, we need to completely destroy these leftists because I don't want to wait on them until 100% potentially come to Christ.
And by the way, Luke, to your point about the demoralization, it wasn't just that it was a leftist who murdered Charlie Kirk.
It was about the leftists who celebrated it.
And the fact that this wasn't, yes, you did see like Ilhan Omar and AOC making their comments.
You saw Barack Obama go on and smear Charlie, even in, you know, the same sentence as saying that he, you know, felt bad about what happened.
He still has to smear him.
He still has to criticize him.
He still has to remind people that Charlie was bad.
And then who were the people who celebrated, right?
All of them.
It was your, you know, it was your doctor, your nurse, your accountant, your HR department.
It was people you work with every single day, people you live with on your street.
And they're sitting there going, you know, some of them are celebrating.
And then some of them even will say, you know, it shouldn't have happened, but, and that's a huge problem.
That just shows you the ideological mental capture that's going on in this society where they'll say, if you have thoughts, thoughts, remember, Charlie Kirk never once raised a hand in anger.
Just never did it.
Go find a video.
You wouldn't.
And if he had, by the way, that'd be all they're showing right now.
He never did that.
But because his thoughts were considered so bad and so impure and so evil that they will make justifications for his murder.
The murder of a father, the murder of a husband, the murder of a Christian, the murder of someone, again, who was completely peaceful in everything that he did and always put God forward, they will justify his murder.
And if you have a group of people like that in your country, and we have a lot of them, it's a minority.
I do believe it's a minority, but it's a significant minority.
Yeah, and the only thing that's separating those nurses and those teachers and et cetera, et cetera, from the shooter is that those people have something to lose.
Like ideologically, we're dealing with the same, this is all the same thing that we're dealing with, but it's just, yeah, they have something to lose.
So they're not going to put, I mean, I don't know, it's a powder keg.
But yeah, that's why it's so important to completely root out this ideology because it's all the same.
This is, you know, perhaps Thomas Matthew Crooks to an extent.
You know, you see a profile starting to emerge of, you know, like Thomas Matthew Crooks, for example, the guy who, you know, shot Trump, did hit him, but you know, missed and didn't kill him.
He had a 1500 SAT, but he was going to community college.
Tyler Robinson, someone who also was seen as, he had gotten into this great program, but then had dropped out and was going to trade school.
I believe at Utah State, actually, where he originally had gotten into Utah State, where Turning Point is tonight, where this huge event is going on.
So you see this profile emerge of these 20-somethings who have tried to achieve something but lost something.
And so what we try to talk about when I've delved into this issue is that what the communist typically does, what the Marxist does is they will take actual, Zoro Mondami talks about this, or Maggioni himself, but Ivy League student, right?
So they'll take actual grievances like the healthcare system in America.
And by the way, as a conservative, guys, it's okay to say the healthcare system in America sucks.
It's okay to say that there are huge problems.
It's okay to say there are huge housing problems in New York City, by the way, and all over the place in America.
But we talk about the housing market.
You talk about it, Tim, all the time on this program.
But as a conservative, or just as someone who understands these types of revolutions, when we're dealing with them, you have to enact statewide policies that try to mitigate these problems.
And if you don't mitigate these problems, you will get more Maggionis, you will get more victims, you will get, unfortunately, more Charlie Kirks.
And I hate to say it because I know what room I'm sitting in, you know, but you will get more because this is a historical pattern that goes back hundreds, if not thousands of years.
Questions about photos and videos, just like anyone.
I have so many questions.
I mean, even more so in this case, because this is a friend of mine, but at the same time, I do this kind of work.
But you want to know what went wrong.
You want to know what happened.
But it really, Your point, it just comes back to these same issues over and over and over, where people are pushed into more extreme lifestyles.
Scott Greer had a great piece in American Conservative about internet-based identities and internet-based identities is really something that I've been thinking about the same topic.
I didn't have the name for it, but this idea that because the real world has become so disconnected for them, because they disassociate with reality, because they feel disenfranchised from reality, you take more identity from places and things that you interact with on the internet.
And so, now, by the way, so they become furries and stuff.
Furries, and this guy was doing into furry porn, including furry what they call child pornography or cub porn in the furry parlance, which is a term that I had to learn recently.
And now, that's that's not to now.
All of that is to say, it isn't because of the internet or because of video games or because of memes.
That's not what drives leftism.
The Bolsheviks were not on the internet or playing video games.
And it's such a cop-out when I hear, particularly, it's a lot of boomers.
I got to say it, will say, Oh, it's the Discords and the Vidgi games and the internets.
No, the Bolsheviks did not have the Internet.
It's because of these forces that cause people to feel disassociated and disenfranchised with reality.
Yeah, and Major Hassan as well, down in Fort Hood.
Another, I think that was even before Chattanooga.
So, I think I want to say Chattanooga was like 2011 and Fort Hood was 2009, something like that.
I could be off on my dates, but we had a series of events on military installations, and people would say, Well, why don't the military have the ability to respond?
Is with all the crazy conspiracy theories that have come out in the past couple of weeks, did you ever think, Jack?
And I don't mean to be crass in this regard, but 10 years ago, with all of these stories that were popping up in media about, say, the Clintons and these theories, you're on X, we're on X, we're talking about it.
It was something over there.
Now, with the work that you're doing, with the work Charlie was doing, this is the there.
And everyone's looking at you and they have weird theories about what's going on.
This is the case where I've had more access to, you know, in terms of stories, right?
I've had more access to this story than anything I've ever looked at in my life.
I've spoken to more eyewitnesses on this than I've spoken to anything, and certainly within a closure timeframe to the actual events.
I mean, I was talking to people who were at the event when we didn't even know if we knew that when we just knew that there was a gunshot, but we didn't know exactly what had happened, Charlie.
So, you know, being able to talk to people on a direct basis like that, it's weird because I'm of a mind where it's how I process things, I guess, where sometimes people deal with grief differently.
And for me, it's like getting analytical.
It helps me to try to understand and dig through and go down.
I believe I've gone down every rabbit hole I could find on this thing.
And it still doesn't, it doesn't make it any better.
It doesn't, you know, and it's at the end of those rabbit holes.
Well, they were one of the things that they couldn't get Trump.
So they started, they said, okay, who are the top lieutenants, right?
Who are the top field generals?
Who are the top people that we can go after?
And at the end of the day, Charlie didn't have a secret service element.
He didn't have that level of security, which, by the way, there's incredible security tonight at that arena.
And I'm so glad they're there.
But Charlie didn't have that.
He didn't have the funds for that, the capacity to do all this.
And there's some other stuff that's going to come out about that, I'm sure, at the trial.
And I'm not sure when we get ahead of any of that.
But it's just, it's crazy, man.
It's completely crazy.
And, you know, I will say this, though, you know, so we did that memorial a week ago, and, you know, I went up there, I gave a speech and eulogy, whatever you want to call it.
And people keep asking me, oh, you know, what was it like?
What was it like?
The biggest crowd, and, you know, so many people out on stage and, you know, watching on at home.
And I was just going to say, like, when we were chatting before, like the medical arena, we've had so many strange and mysterious things happen, right?
And there's so much attack on medical doctors and experts that are getting out things that are not mainstream and the sudden missing things and close personal friends of mine over the years, over the past decade for me, and gone, right?
And it's just horrible.
And so, you know, just this whole thing of like, just some, sometimes it's the best among us often that they're just cut away too short.
Dr. Rashid Bhutta was a dear friend and mentor.
You know, Dr. Nicolas Gonzalez, you know, these are cases that people need to know about.
I didn't believe any of this stuff until I had a kid because we did blue light therapy, which is a normal thing they do in maternity awards for babies.
The blue light breaks down.
What does it break down the bilirubin or whatever?
And then I was like, well, the light does that?
And they're like, yeah, the light does that.
I'm like, well, so that like tanning your balls works.
And that's why we use the blue in there as well, because it corrects the circadian rhythm and works for neonatal care.
And there's nine different wavelengths of light there.
So you see how you see in the different shades.
So when breast cancer was tested, they tested four different wavelengths against it, triple negative and non-triple negative breast cancer.
Six 60 nanometer penetration out of the four wavelengths was the only one that dropped the proliferation by 40%, which means that it actually in 24 hours in an in vitro study with human cell lines.
Yeah, so this is that, which is often with cancer, it's called photodynamic therapy.
And people are using it.
There was a Lancet oncology study that showed if they used red light, they had a 400% increase in their ability to put prostate cancer in remission.
It was like a, I remember the joke when I lived in Manhattan because there's one guy named Emmanuel and he did like 11,000 deliveries in a month because it's just like 30 people using the same account.
It's totally absurd, like the amount of fraud that's going on.
And it's these, the food delivery apps are propping up a lot of this.
Because yeah, you can just share the same account.
Oh, and that the ADL just released this statement.
I'm literally just seeing this now that they're kind of like defending the glossary and a bunch of stuff is down.
With over a thousand entries written over many years, the glossary is served as high level.
At the same time, a number of entries in the glossary were outdated.
And so now it looks like they've taken a lot of the ADL glossary offline after, again, Elon Musk and so many other people are pointing out that they were attacking Turning Point USA.
And it's been this huge, you know, sort of online narrative right now.
And there's, by the way, there's still the page up on Turning Point, which also attacks Charlie, even in death.
And you can still find that if you just search Turning Point in Google and ADL, but the actual page itself doesn't link to it.
So they, they, you know, in demonology, they, they hate sacramentals.
So it's, it's not like, it's not like they'll, you know, they'll run away if you hold up a crucifix like in a vampire movie or something, but it's, it, it just, it's, to your point, it inspires this hatred and this anger.
As long as you're using it, right, as long as you're using it for defense and as long as you're not using it in a, you know, in an offensive type of capability, if you're using it to defend yourself, your family, then of course.
I've always said, you know, a great place to start on this.
And the more like doctrinal purists will probably get mad at me for saying this, but the conjuring movie series, if you're someone who's just like, I have no idea how any of this stuff works, but I'm kind of a little bit interested.
That's based on two people who lived in real life and encountered the demonic and encountered the occult.
And were even Ed Warren was actually recognized by the Vatican as a demonologist.
And so you watch those films.
Yeah, it's Hollywood, of course, but they get a lot right.
You know, and like we pray at home in English and in Latin, but at the end of the day, it's just if you just say the name of Jesus, because this is clear.
And there are, you know, the demons must obey Christ as well because even a demon knows that Christ is the Christ.
I'm not trying to be addicted to anybody is claiming that I talked with Andrew Cole the other day that he or Eric aren't grieving properly.
This is like the new conspiracy.
Oh, look at her.
She's laughing on a show or she's smiling.
And I'm just like, yeah, there's a whole organization and tons of people who are doing the exact same thing working every day who knew and loved Charlie.
I mean, I don't know what the general expectation is among these people who believe this.
Like, you give up on life, you just go into a cave and never come back out?
I mean, I'll just say, you know, I've seen them both on camera and off.
And, you know, if you really think that these people aren't grieving the loss of someone that was that close to them or that Erica is not grieving, then you just, you know, it's just, you have no idea.
You have no idea what's going on.
And the fact that she's even able to do that and be uncomfortable.
And by the way, like, you know, I'm the same way, right?
You know, I've been on camera since this happened.
And yeah, I've shed tears.
And there was a moment, I was over at Bannon's when we did War Room and like right after we got the news.
And I got through the show.
I was very upset.
I was angry, right?
I was in that anger phase.
And after the show ended, I just, I broke down and I was just sobbing.
And I just couldn't believe this happened.
And no, I didn't time it so that it happened on camera, but it still happened.
I mean, grief is like that.
Grief is a roller coaster.
It's weird.
And sometimes I'll just hear a song and it we were at church on this weekend and they played on eagles wings and they played Be Not Afraid.
It's that good people have to come together and say, we can't go down this road.
And you need the Christians, you need the revival.
And I said that in my speech.
I really meant that.
I think if Charlie's sacrifice is to mean anything, that 100 years from now, whatever it is, when it looked like Western civilization was on the brink when we were going through the fourth turning, that Charlie's sacrifice gave us the ability to fight back and save Western civilization in the only way possible by returning the people to God.
The only way.
It's the only way to be that firm bulwark, that dam in the river, to say, no, no, we are not going to keep going down this direction.
By the way, I'm just going to throw that out that, in fact, I can say on ear that the post-millennial is reporting now, it's not just those, those, because I was going through the glossary of the ADL earlier and I was trying to figure out why are the links not working.
The ADL has completely retired the entire glossary of extremism effective immediately.
So the organization that was supposed to be tracking and the experts that work with the FBI and local law enforcement and all these other agencies all around the country has just admitted that their most important glossary and documentary piece was wrong and had to delete the entire thing.
And it just goes to show you what smear merchants these guys are.
And I wish this never happened.
I wish that it hadn't gotten this far and taken the death of Charlie Kirk to be able to push this over the edge.
Honestly, I don't think this is a redeemable organization, just given what they've done.
And, you know, okay, you took it down, but, you know, great.
Like, can you please show me the department where I can get my friend back, where Erica can get her husband back, where those kids can get their dad back?