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Liberals are calling for a boycott of all things Disney because Jimmy Kimmel has been pulled off the air.
And we're now learning a little bit more about what happened behind the scenes with why Jimmy Kimmel was pulled off the air.
And it appears it's not so much that he made fun of Charlie Kirk.
Initially, it's been reported that executives were actually behind him and said they weren't going to take him off the air, that what he said was actually fun.
Until it now seems Jimmy Kimmel said he was going to double down with an even more offensive monologue, controversial monologue.
And perhaps then is when they said, okay, Jimmy, now we're going to have to stop you.
The funny thing is, Democrats are apoplectic.
Liberals are freaking out.
They're more concerned over the cancellation of a comedian they did not watch than the life of Charlie Kirk.
So spare me when y'all come out screaming as if the apocalypse just happened because Roseanne would like to have a word for have a word here.
You know, they took her down over a joke and Jimmy Kimmel mocked her and Brian Stelter mocked her and basically all the liberals made fun of her and Megan Kelly and Tucker Carlson and cheered for it.
So why should we actually care?
Now the FCC's Brendan Carr says he's actually not done.
More is going to come.
So we're going to talk about that.
Plus, there's a lot to break down in this story and it's basically dominating the coverage we have tonight.
Although there is still some other big news.
A congressional staffer in Texas for a Republican was found immolated.
And they're saying no foul play, but the story is very strange because I'm not sure how someone is accidentally immolated.
It's just something you don't see every day.
And so we're going to read into that.
And then there was a threat made against the governor of New Hampshire.
It is strange and it is terrifying that this news keeps happening, but we'll keep it to the comedy world and the free speech arguments.
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You know, joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is John Reed.
john reid
Hey, I'm glad to be with you tonight.
tim pool
Who are you?
What are you doing?
john reid
I am from Virginia.
I'm the Republican candidate for lieutenant governor this year, and it's been a hell of a ride the last several months.
Voting starts tomorrow in Virginia.
It's 45 days of voting all the way to November 4th.
And this is the sequel to the Republican sweep four years ago that brought in Glenn Young and Winsome Sears and Jason Biaris.
And Glenn cannot run again.
You know, you can only serve one term as governor of Virginia.
So now we've got a new lineup.
Winsome Sears is running for governor against the former Congresswoman Abigail Spamberger, the Democrat.
I'm running against a lady named Gazala Hashmi, who is a current senator in Virginia.
And the Jason Jiaris is trying to get re-elected as Attorney General against a guy who's 36 years old, who's never prosecuted a case named Jay Jones.
Pretty left-wing guy.
So it should be very clear between the two sets of candidates.
And maybe it will be.
We'll see how Virginians approach this.
tim pool
I think we're winning.
I mean, across the board and in every facet.
So I think you're probably going to do well, but let's knock on wood and we'll see how it goes.
We'll have a conversation about it.
Thanks for joining us.
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elad eliahu
Good evening, everybody.
I am Elad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast.
Mr. Reed, thanks for joining us.
Especially ahead of early voting.
Hopefully we can get into your race a little bit sometime on the show.
Mary, it's good to see you as well.
mary morgan
Hi, everyone.
My name is Mary Morgan, and you can usually find me on Pop Culture Crisis here at Timcast.
Glad to be back.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the Heavy Metal Band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's the story from MediaITE.
Kimmel was reportedly about to give controversial monologue when he was suspended.
Quote, he has to take down the temperature.
So there's been a couple different additions to this story.
Yesterday, in the middle of the show, we learned that he was not planning on apologizing.
Take a look at this.
When asked by the Hollywood Reporter, the source said Kimmel was not planning on apologizing.
He felt that what he said did not require an apology.
Media reports, according to CNN, which spoke to an unnamed source familiar with the situation, Kimmel was preparing to deliver a monologue on Wednesday evening, addressing the backlash he had received for another monologue that week about the murder of Charlie Kirk.
The Wednesday monologue was described by CNN source as very hot and would have reportedly targeted President Trump's mega base.
Quote, if Jimmy went on the air, there would have been no way back from that monologue for Jimmy.
We didn't want that.
Everyone deeply values him and wants him to come back, but he has to take down the temperature.
After publishing the source's quote Thursday, it's CNN stealth edited its article, removing the first half.
This is crazy, right?
Everyone deeply values him and wants him to come back, but he has to take down the temperature.
The decision to suspend Kimmel's show was reportedly made by Disney CEO Bob Iger and coach and Disney's co-chair Dana Walden in hopes of protecting Kimmel and the Disney brand from accelerating the controversy.
The author of the article, CNN Entertainment correspondent Elizabeth Wagmeister, previously suggested on Wednesday that it was unlikely Jimmy Kimmel Live would return to television anytime soon.
So now we have a very clear picture.
Jimmy Kimmel is not sorry.
He does not want to apologize.
In fact, he wanted to go further with it, and they described it as very hot.
And let's just say it.
The executives at Disney were scared he was going to inflame tensions.
And you know what I think?
I said this yesterday, that these executives, the reason why they're basically shutting down these employees that are praising the death of Charlie Kirk, calling for more or fanning the flames, is they're probably thinking they're next.
Nobody wants to be in the crosshairs.
And if you're a media executive at a time when you've got two sides blaming the media, their edit is probably sit down and shut up.
Jimmy Kimmel said, nah, nah, I'm going to double down.
And so this is crazy because the initial reporting was that they were behind him and they said, you know what, you don't got to say anything.
Jimmy, your monologue was fine.
And then apparently he said, nah, I'm going to make it even worse.
So they pulled him for his own good.
This is the rage cult.
This is the death cult.
They are more angry about Jimmy Kimmel losing his show, despite the fact Roseanne, Megan Kelly, Tucker Carlson also got pulled off the air.
They're more concerned about that than the assassination of a young man in front of his wife and children.
This is where we are as a country.
Now, he issued a statement, and I'll give him some credit for it.
He said, instead of the angry finger pointing, can we just for one day agree that it's horrible and monstrous to shoot another human?
I'm going to pause right there and say thank you, Jimmy.
That's correct.
That is absolutely horrible.
And then he goes on to say, on behalf of my family, we send love to the Kirks and to all the children, parents and innocents who fall victim to senseless gun violence.
The back half is where he deflects from the actual issue at hand.
His inflaming of political tensions, the overt political killing of a young man in front of his family in broad daylight and cold blood to make it about gun control, which wasn't the issue.
This man has no remorse and no shame.
And what is worrying to me is none of these other liberals do as well.
phil labonte
If the report is true and then he did have a more inflammatory monologue planned, maybe it was actually the responsible thing to do to take him off the air.
I mean, look, as far as like principles go, he shouldn't have been, but he shouldn't have been taken off the air.
But again, let me finish.
But the fact that the left has been doing this to the right for a decade, I think that kind of puts us in a position where that kind of principled stance has proven to be useless nowadays.
mary morgan
I'm still not clear on what principles you're.
phil labonte
Principle of free speech.
mary morgan
I don't think this has violated a principle of free speech at all.
phil labonte
Why?
mary morgan
Well, because in order to have freedom of speech, you do have to have ground rules and he's not following them.
In order to have a free marketplace of ideas.
phil labonte
What do you mean?
mary morgan
In order to have a free marketplace of ideas, there need to be basic ground rules.
And the people engaging in dialogue with each other at least have to have certain basic foundations in common.
And one of them is being on the same page about the morality of an action like senseless, cold-blooded murder.
If we don't have that, then we need to set about creating an environment of order rather than of freedom.
tim pool
I agree, not entirely, but enough.
And what I would say to this is the reason why I don't care about Kimmel getting fired is largely for what you were describing in that we do not have a shared moral worldview.
Jimmy Kimmel is a willful liar for the purpose of creating problems, fear, pain, and suffering.
And we every day try to shine a light on what's going on.
My attitude is the people should have the knowledge to the best of our abilities to convey so they can make the decisions for themselves.
I want nothing more than to leave you alone, mind my own business, but hope that you with correct information will do good.
Will do well.
If I were Kimmel is the inverse where he says, I'm going to lie to you so you do what I want, and that leads to death.
john reid
If I were a Disney executive, I would say, what am I paying you for?
It's a comedy show.
Where's the comedy here?
This is not funny.
You're not a talk show host.
I mean, maybe there are different parameters if you're doing a hardcore free-for-all talk show.
This is an evening comedy show that presumably adults watch right before they fall asleep at night.
And I think that's been part of the problem.
That's why these shows are losing their audience.
They're hyper-political.
They're not funny.
They're funny in a mean way because they go after conservatives.
And the leftists think that's so great to watch people bitch slap conservatives verbally.
And that's the appeal of the show.
It's one reason I don't watch that stuff anymore.
phil labonte
And I used to.
To your point, I think that's what I was getting to at like the second half of my comment, right?
If you're going to talk about a principled stand, if you're going to say, well, I have the principle of free speech, and I think that you should be able to say whatever you want, just so long as it's not specifically inciting.
That's the principled stance.
But the follow-up to that, which I was saying, was basically in line with what you're saying.
Like, we're in a situation where the ground rules aren't the same for everybody, and the left has been doing this.
And you look at the way the left has been reacting.
They're saying, oh, all these people, how come, you know, how come you were so pro-free speech before, but now you're not?
It's like the left wanted it this way.
tim pool
Real quick, just there's an alert that went out about 40 minutes ago right before we started the show.
Unconfirmed reports of a gunman on UNC Wilmington campus.
They're advising everyone to shelter in place.
So if you haven't heard that, please look into it.
Hope everybody's okay.
And based on the video I've seen, I don't know how credible the reports is.
There's a video of a man walking carrying some kind of long gun, but I don't know about how this is North Carolina.
Just because someone's seen with a weapon doesn't mean anything happened yet, but please look into it and we'll take that seriously.
And anyway, back to the point about free speech.
Just want to make sure that people are safe.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I just don't think that, I don't think that this even is, again, I don't think that free speech is the issue at hand.
People will try and make it about free speech, but it really is about the inflammatory nature of the way that the left has been talking about the right.
And the results of that have been murder now.
tim pool
I just don't really care at all anymore.
We believe in freedom of movement.
We believe that individuals can move between states and cities and then violence breaks out and the police set up barriers saying nobody can cross.
And we have no problem with that, right?
If there's a riot or shootings taking place and the police block the street with their car and they say, you can't go through here, we don't go, hey, man, you're violating my right.
So we go, extenuating circumstances.
There are circumstances where we recognize rights will be infringed upon, I suppose, is one way to describe it.
But I don't know what else you do.
And so my view is largely when they are killing people, when the death threats have reached an extreme degree, when we are in a political environment where Charlie Kirk was assassinated and they celebrated it, there comes a point where you say we have to be a little bit more serious about how we enforce the law than to just take the light approach.
And the best example I can give is: whereas five years ago, if someone tweeted something like, oh, won't someone rid me of this Allah Eliyahu?
We would all say, okay, like, we get the point.
Today, if someone tweeted, oh, won't someone get rid of this Allah Eliyahu?
I'd say that's a death threat and they should be charged for it.
And the reason why is, I'll elaborate as well.
I believe the context of the person's character and social feeds matter for this.
So there was a video I recorded earlier on the Tim Pool channel.
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Michael Knowles was talking about why we should prosecute Destiny and Hassan Piker.
Literal criminal prosecution for the statements they've made.
I don't know about Destiny.
Destiny said if you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Trump should not have been president and second term.
And he also said that conservatives should have to fear death or something to that effect, which can only be done when conservatives are being killed.
However, Hassan sent a photo.
This is my understanding from Michael Knowles' video, a photo of a makeshift weapon that was used to assassinate a political leader to a politician.
Now, again, that's my understanding from the video.
If that wasn't the case, whatever.
I'm using it to illustrate a point.
If someone has a history of saying things like, let the streets run red with their blood, kill them, like Hassan has, and then in the event, he sends a photo of a makeshift weapon that was used in an assassination, the intent is clear.
However, if there is a mechanic who mythbusters, right?
If one of the Mythbusters guys sent a picture of this weapon to somebody, we'd be like, what's he trying to say by that?
I don't think the MythBusters guy is threatening me with death.
And he does, in context, talk about makeshift devices and things like that.
So the context there is different.
In the past, we have seen what I refer to as the tweet-de-tweedledum death threat, where one person would say, you know, we really should be rid of these priests.
And then someone would point at a lot and say, that's the priest.
You know what they're doing.
Each individual statement is not a death threat.
Together, it is, but you can't prosecute either of them.
I say, now we should.
The half statement counts.
If you are standing next to somebody and you say, go kill Nazis, and the person says they're the Nazi, you're both under arrest because you both issued a death threat.
And I'm done playing these stupid games.
So when people are like, the free speech of Jimmy Kimmel, no, I'm not playing this game anymore.
He, first of all, nobody watches his show anyway.
His ratings were collapsing.
But to go on TV and lie and this is evil.
We are fighting people who are trying to get us killed.
There are people who are posting lists online.
And I've said this the past several nights, the past week, because it's happening.
We're submitting this to the FBI where they're saying, kill these people next.
Or it's more vague than that.
They're saying, hey, you should do this next.
And it's a list of people's names like mine, Ben Shapiro, Candace Owens, whatever.
So when Jimmy Kimmel goes on his show, while Democrats are all celebrating this death, saying there should be more, justifying it, and then he goes, the guy was a MAGA guy anyway.
Now you've got a problem of a critical mass of people who are going to start more murders, more riots.
And I have zero sympathy for Jimmy Kimmel.
I literally don't care.
I literally don't.
And on top of that, while I do agree with the idea of free speech, if you want to make jokes, I'm drawing the line at what Jimmy Kimmel did for mocking Trump.
That's fine.
He wants to make fun of Trump.
He can be a dick.
Lying about the intent of a mass shooter to inflame an audience and potentially lead this country to serious conflict and crisis is nuts.
And I'll just say this: there is a fine line.
What would happen, let me ask you guys, if Jimmy Kimmel went on his show and said, I think everybody should use violence to defy Donald Trump.
What do you think would happen if he did that?
He'd be taken off the air in two seconds.
He'd probably be criminal charged with sedition or something.
He is doing 1% of that.
It's admittedly very, very small.
But I do not believe for a second that he did not know about the motive of the shooter.
I don't believe that for a second.
Which means any reasonable conclusion is that Jimmy Kimmel intentionally lied, fanning the flames.
And for what reason?
Hatred.
mary morgan
Political.
Political.
What he spread was a blood libel against Trump supporters, Republicans, conservatives, whatever you want to call it.
It's a hard group of people.
It's an intentional lie.
There's no way in his heart of hearts he actually thought Tyler Robinson, yeah, he's a Trump supporter.
Obviously, that's not the case.
And I do think that it was a blood libel against Republicans or conservatives, ostensibly encouraging people, not in his face-to-face audience, but the larger audience that watches him to take action against these dangerous people in our society.
tim pool
And Charlie Kirk is one of them.
There's no reason for him not to have come on the show and says, I really don't get this.
He could have gone on the show and said, so it turns out that this shooter may have actually had left-leaning values.
Now, of course, we all reject that, don't we?
And they'd all clap and cheer.
He could have done that.
They'd have cheered for him.
And he would have said, we're not going to be blamed for the actions of a madman, but we will denounce this because we're good.
He could have done that.
He didn't.
He said, it was one of their own who did it.
And where the hammer comes down is when he said, according to this report from CNN, he was going to double down.
So when they went to him and said, hey, guy, behind the scenes, it wasn't a MAGA guy, he said, I don't care.
He said, I'm going to double down.
Now, that is intent.
He was trying to make things dangerous and worse in this country.
There's a point at which you can't yell fire in a crowded theater.
We say people, many people wrongly state you can't yell fire in a crowded theater.
You literally can.
I think it's Brandon Burg v.
Ohio.
You can.
Nothing's stopping you from doing it.
However, there's a circumstance where you can't yell fire.
And what would that be?
Let's just say there's 10 guys with rifles aimed at an innocent person and you yell fire.
It's a ridiculous analogy, but my point is clear.
When the speech you normally say, in and of itself, has no bear.
Imagine if you were standing in an empty field and a guy walks by and you yell fire.
The guy would go, huh?
Now imagine if you're standing with a bunch of men with guns and you yell fire.
The context is very, very different.
If Jimmy Kimmel's intent in context is to ignite a spark on a pile of Tinder, then I think we say enough and we don't let him do it.
mary morgan
I think they were looking for an excuse to get rid of him anyway.
As you pointed out, his ratings are lower than Stephen Colbert's even were before he got pulled.
So that's a way.
It was inevitable.
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Let's pull it up.
tim pool
We got this report from sky.com.
Kimmel fired for lack of talent, Trump says, as Obama decries government coercion.
Kimmel used his show and money to criticize Donald Trump for his response to the assassination of Kirk, among other things.
Now, Trump's not wrong.
The New York Post says Jimmy Kimmel's ratings were plummeting before ABC suspended him for Charlie Kirk Comments.
They say Nielsen data showed sharp summer declines and a year-long slide that leaves him trailing late-night rivals such as Fox News' Greg Gutfeld and Colbert.
According to monthly Nielsen figures, Jimmy Kimmel Live dropped to just 1.1 million total viewers in August, down 43% from January's 1.9 million.
His August household rating, 0.35, marked the weakest showing of the year.
The advertiser, get this, get this.
The advertiser coveted 18 to 49 demo also cratered.
Kimmel averaged only 129,000 viewers in that bracket in August.
Holy crap.
Off from 212,000.
Let me take this time to brag that while I was sick most of August and unable to work, the show hosted by Phil Labonte and with some special guests towards the end of the month was still averaging around 500,000 in the key demo.
And don't get me wrong, where network television used to be, that's small.
That's very small.
Jimmy Kimmel at 129,000 viewers.
Yo, I think I got a video of a cat on my Instagram that does better than that.
That's not a joke.
I literally, it's a video of a cat and it's looking like this.
phil labonte
Kimmel's the joke.
tim pool
And it says, it says, when it's already, when it's Tuesday, but you've already given it your all.
And the cat's like just super tired.
And it plays that song from Enya.
You know, who can say?
And it's got like 500,000 views.
So I can post a cat meme and have a bigger show than Jimmy Kimmel.
That's why he got booted.
john reid
That's probably right.
It's a lousy show.
He's aging out of the key demo anyway.
I mean, I think if you look, his audience has moved on.
The new audience isn't interested in him.
And I mean, you go back to Letterman.
Letterman was hilarious.
And then Letterman got mean and nasty and became hyper-political, which nobody really needs to see on this type of program.
And I think it's one of the reasons that people are abandoning network TV in general.
tim pool
It's kind of crazy.
mary morgan
He loves crying on the show, doesn't he?
He's really the worst when it comes to the emotional outlets.
john reid
This is the one gun incident that he hadn't cried.
mary morgan
He is psychologically unstable, needs help.
That much cannot be denied.
He has cried on camera way too many times.
I think he like gets a thrill out of like forcing people to witness his vulnerability.
So that's like the first reason why he, in my opinion, is the worst of the late night hosts.
john reid
If a big liberal had been shot.
mary morgan
But also because of who he used to be.
And I'm not shaming or saying that he should have remorse or regrets over the man show, but it's really disturbing that Jimmy Kimmel then can be the same man as Jimmy Kimmel now.
That doesn't make sense to me.
It's not supposed to be a good idea.
But with no consequence, he wants us to just forget about who he was in the 2000s.
john reid
When other people are not allowed to turn the page in their lives, they get completely canceled.
No new opportunity to reinvent themselves.
mary morgan
That's what would have been a cancellation if someone went and clip farmed from the man show, posted a thread on X, and everyone's up in arms about how he was such a chauvinist, and then people are calling for his show.
People did it.
That would be cancel culture.
john reid
People have done it, but it doesn't impact the left.
elad eliahu
No, he didn't get canceled for doing blackface.
He doesn't have to do that.
That too.
mary morgan
Don't make us pull up the photos of his son.
Either of us want that job.
john reid
Because he's on the left.
elad eliahu
I think the crying on camera too is a virtue signal to awfuls because they love that.
If you want to get like rich, affluent, white liberal women, they love it when you cry for them.
I think that's what that's a virtue signal for.
mary morgan
Do you feel like a sadism thing?
Like they like.
elad eliahu
They like making men cry.
They like derive pleasure from trying to make weak men cry.
I think Bob Iger here is not letting a good crisis, a good crisis, a good crisis go to waste.
So while it's convenient, he's getting rid of Kimmel.
The medium is dying.
Late night shows are dying.
unidentified
But I don't think they're going to get him.
elad eliahu
I'm not sure if he's doing very well before that, regardless.
mary morgan
They're going to just give him an on-ramp to come back.
They're already hinting at it now that they want it to be possible to bring back the Jimmy Kimmel alive.
elad eliahu
He's going to go to the future of that soon.
tim pool
The Wall Street Journal has this story.
Basically, it was advertisers.
It wasn't just Nexstar and Sinclair.
Advertisers had called who had already purchased slots.
And let me tell you guys, last week, when the tragic news broke and we were all kind of suffering through this, not like we had it worse compared to the family or those who actually were there and had to deal with it.
Don't get me wrong.
I was asked, hey, are we going to do ad reads?
And I was like, no way.
And it's like, listen, tonight we have very, very awful news to report about someone we knew and the nightmares, the nightmare that is emerging in this country.
So from that day, the rest of the week, we did not do ad reads on IRL.
But there's another reason, and it's important to say, I know maybe a lot of people don't want to talk about it, but what brand wants to be the brand sponsorship of the death of a beloved personality?
So it was like when CNN ran that commercial from Chili's or whatever.
You guys remember this?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
It was like air raid sirens going off in Ukraine and bombs were about to drop.
And then all of a sudden it does a side-by-side where a guy's shaking his butt and singing about drinking beers or something.
And everyone was like, this is the worst thing you could have ever done.
Imagine being an advertiser who already bought ad space on Jimmy Kimmel's show.
You hear him say this and you're going, get my ad off that show.
So they all call ABC and say, do not run my ad on that man's show right now.
I don't want to deal with the boycott.
This is the lesson.
This is the Bud Light effect.
john reid
But if ABC was smart, they would have told him, hey, don't even talk about it.
It'll give people a distraction from this horrible news.
Run the show, be funny.
tim pool
They were smart.
john reid
It's amusing.
tim pool
They were smart.
Jimmy Kimmel said no.
john reid
Yeah, that's right.
tim pool
He was going to double down.
john reid
That's right.
tim pool
He said he was going.
The reporting is that he was going to attack Trump supporters again.
And they were probably just like, okay, this man is unhinged.
It sounds like, you know, I'm going to give you my personal opinion.
I don't think the executives went, Jimmy, we don't think it's anything wrong.
So we think you should go on with your show.
And then Jimmy goes, then I'm going to double down.
Well, hold on there, Jimmy.
We don't think that's a good idea.
For your own good, we're going to stop your show.
There's no way in the span of a couple hours, they politely and calmly said, Your show won't be aired.
Sorry, Jimmy.
I really doubt it.
I think they probably said, Do not do it.
And he said, I'm going to do it.
And they said, Don't do it.
He was, I'm going to do it anyway.
And they said, Jimmy, I swear to God, if you go out there and that's your intent, you will not do this show.
And he said, I will not have you stop me.
I'm willing to bet it was much more contentious.
And Jimmy, listen, it's actually quite simple.
The reporting says that they wanted to bring the temperature down.
If Jimmy Kimmel came out with an apology, everything would have been fine.
Jimmy Kimmel was going to double down and was refusing to apologize.
That sounds to me like he argued with the executives saying, I refuse to apologize.
So they said, then no more show for you.
john reid
He probably didn't even have to apologize.
He probably just had to do a comedy show without a lot of slamming Trump supporters.
Seriously, that's all you have to do.
I mean, do we have to infuse everything with politics?
I do politics.
I did a talk show for eight years.
It was all politics.
People would call and say, why are you obsessed with politics?
I'm like, it's a political talk show.
I'm not doing a comedy show.
If I'm doing a comedy show, then I've got a lot of other stuff I can go work from.
I don't get it.
tim pool
If Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen Colbert, or whoever, these Seth Meyers, if their comedy shows were actually just cultural comedy, you know who's really good at it?
Ryan Long.
Ryan Long's great at it.
He'd have a million in the ratings.
He'd have one million in the key demo.
You know how I know?
You want to know how I know, guys?
Because Kill Tony does.
Because Kill Tony, every Monday night, does his stream.
He gets like one to two million viewers.
And it's largely key demographic.
Now, they talk about politics quite a bit, but to be fair, it's a stand-up show.
It's not an over-talk show.
But I am telling you, if you had Tony Hinchcliffe hosting one of these late night shows and he was willing to dish it in any direction, you'd have a million views.
I'd be watching it.
Evenly.
I wouldn't say evenly.
I would say fairly.
phil labonte
Yeah, it doesn't even have to be evenly.
Like, if they have a preference to have jokes about conservatives, but they weren't always malicious about it, and they had some jokes about Democrats or progressives or whatever, I think that you'd see a lot less vitriol, but it was significantly fewer amount of people that were so upset about Jimmy Kimwell and the way that he behaves.
But it was always in one direction and it was always malicious.
It wasn't meant to be in fun.
There was no, oh, we're all laughing here.
It was intended to be insults directed at one group of people all the time.
tim pool
Can we just make things a little bit interesting?
Well, we'll get that in a little bit in a quick second.
Sorry.
Let me read a little bit more from this article.
They say that Jimmy Kimmel's salary was reportedly $15 million to $16 million a year, with some outlets noting the bonuses can push his annual earnings above 20 million.
How?
Where's that money coming from?
Now, let me just say, I run a business here at Timcast.
I know all of our numbers, where the money comes from, where the money goes.
And based on the viewership that we get, which is much, much larger, we do all right.
We do all right.
But there ain't no way anybody who works here is going to be getting $20 million a year.
So I got questions.
I got questions.
To be fair, a million in the ratings per night, depending on who you're selling to.
Boomer's got a lot of money.
Most of those viewers are boomers.
And his key demo ratings are no good.
The scary reality here, I guess, is that the key demo ain't a key demo no more.
18 to 49-year-olds ain't got any money.
So if you want to sell a product and you want to see that actually land, you really do want to be targeting 60-year-olds because boomers are the only one with any real capital.
mary morgan
Well, so as you've pointed out, there are less of the 18 to 29-year-olds in general.
unidentified
That's exactly the boomers.
mary morgan
There are just less of them to go around.
And his salaries, not even to mention the salaries of all these people working on his show, which is probably, it might be around 100 people total.
I don't know, maybe hundreds.
If we get to the administrative bloat territory, it's probably hundreds of people whose livelihoods depend on this show.
And Jimmy Kimmel just covered that in gasoline and threw the match.
tim pool
I want to jump to the story from the Daily Beast and start by saying, Jimmy Fallon cancels appearance after Kimmel's show gets cut.
We won.
Congratulations.
Winning now does not mean winning forever.
You may invade and conquer great lands, and one day those lands may be conquered back.
But when Jimmy Fallon cancels an appearance after Kimmel's show gets cut, that means I'm going to give you my opinion on this one.
It's all opinion because we don't actually know what happened.
He was supposed to do some event and he canceled it.
It sounds like ABC had an emergency meeting.
It sounds like these networks had an emergency meeting and said, all hands on deck, we got to discuss what you are doing on your shows.
And I think what we're likely going to start seeing is these late night shows drop the political games.
We got this from NBC News, FCC chair, CNBC, sorry.
FCC chair Carr says, we are not done yet after Jimmy Kimmel's suspension.
I bet all these networks just said, we cannot go to war with the government.
So shut your mouths.
And I say, okay.
I know the left is going to be like, but free speech, it's so chilling when the government is doing.
The FCC has always existed, has always regulated what network television can do with their access to the airwaves.
And it is not the same thing as say, look, Jimmy Kimmel, start a YouTube channel, buddy.
Be like Don Lemon.
Ain't nobody stopping you.
But if you want access to the public airwaves, you are regulated by the FCC and I ain't crying about it.
john reid
And there used to be a general consensus about what was acceptable and what wasn't.
They were outliers.
I mean, I remember when Howard Stern was perceived as like totally outrageous, crazy.
You know, we've got to shut him down.
They tried to bring him to Richmond and all the conservatives in Richmond freaked out and he actually didn't survive in Richmond.
But he was an outlier.
Now you look at it and you think there isn't a general consensus about what's acceptable.
And the difference between broadcast TV, broadcast radio, and everything else on the internet blurs that line.
What people will accept is different today.
The stuff that people regularly consume online would have, you know, people would have had heart attacks and died 20 years ago.
mary morgan
I think we're just in yet another situation where the left is writing fan fiction about what's happening that I wish were reality.
And they're talking about how the government is chilling speech and they're the culprits behind all of this.
And then if you actually look into the story, the FCC, at least according to the information we have now and according to what Brendan Carr has said, the FCC was not the catalyst for any of this.
It was the affiliate stations.
It was from the bottom up.
It was private companies.
And they were private companies standing up to conglomerates.
It had nothing to do with the government catalyzing this whole chain of events.
I do wish it were the government, though.
I do continue wishing that like who Trump portrays himself to be in tweets and truth social posts were reality, but he's not actually serious when he says like, let's shut the people up.
We're giving me unfair coverage.
I'm not serious.
tim pool
I'm going to make it real simple for everybody.
What is a government?
Who wants to answer this one?
Phil?
What is a government?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, it's an organization in at least in our country that's voted on by the people in order to do certain basic things.
In my opinion, the role of the government is to protect property rights, make sure that there is a military to protect borders and provide courts for redress of grievance.
And as far as I'm concerned, that's about all that I think the government should be doing.
tim pool
All right.
I mean, the general idea of government is controlling authority structure over a nation, its borders, and its people.
And in the United States, I think you are largely correct as to how it operates.
So I agree that's what a government should be.
It should be a structure of the people for the purpose of protecting the rights of the people and ensuring that those rights aren't infringed upon, ensuring protection from external forces, in which case, my view on all of this is very simple.
As I've stated before, there are two different worlds occurring within the same country.
This is a conversation that has been had for almost seven or eight years now, and it's a conversation I did not bring up.
Many individuals and academics have pointed to the fact that there exist two different countries.
Stephen Marsh, I cite quite regularly, a smart man, despite being a liberal, we disagree.
He is a smart guy on this matter, much more learned than I.
And he said, there are two countries existing within the borders of the United States, a multicultural democracy and a constitutional republic.
And he said, I am of the multicultural democracy.
And I said, interesting, I am of the Constitutional Republic.
In which case, the answer is quite clear.
If my government drops a bomb on someone like Solemani, I don't care.
I mean, I prefer that he doesn't do it.
I know Ilad's over here nodding like, come on, let's prefer that we do.
My point is, when the U.S. government engages in military actions for the betterment of the interests of the country, the questions that I have are, are these justified?
Is the appropriate use of force?
I don't go, oh, heavens me, they murdered somebody.
I say, this is war and military, right?
Here's a better example.
The social media platforms all say that advocating for violence is an immediately bannable offense.
However, if you went on your social media platforms and say Donald Trump was correct in dropping a bomb on Solemani and blowing him up, you would not be banned.
Because even YouTube agrees, the context of the terms of service and the calls for violence only applies within a nation.
Now, we are not yet at the point where I would say we have a manifest two different distinct countries by which that rule would apply internally.
As it would apply to the FCC, that's exactly how I feel.
So when they come to me and they say, but Tim, free speech, and I'll say, sure, and I don't really grant freedom of movement to terrorists in Iraq or Afghanistan.
I don't think the U.S. should be there.
But this is my point.
You would not grant freedom of movement to Russians in Ukraine despite not being anywhere near there.
My view is largely, we have a government of foreign by the people.
It's us.
They're not us.
They seek to destroy us.
They are an entirely separate system.
They don't believe the same things we do.
They don't believe in the same laws.
And they're willing to lie to steal power, cheat, and even kill someone like Charlie Kirk.
When I see this government engaging in actions that is within the Constitution, but is shutting down the illicit speech, and I mean like the threats of violence and all that stuff, I'm not going to cry about it.
I am not going to cry when Jimmy Kimmel gets his show taken off the air, even though I do agree with people having the right to free speech, because these people are trying to destroy us.
And as they say, all is fair and love and war.
If it's a culture war, then so be it.
I am not going to reach my neck out and defend evil people.
And so long as the Trump administration and the current government is protecting us as Americans, and I'm not even playing that heritage American game.
All Americans, even people who immigrate here, I know may or may not agree.
People, someone comes here right now.
They literally just land on a plane and they've got a legal visa and they say, you know, in one year, you'll have finalized your citizenship and you'll be that person is protected as well.
These liberals, the left, are advocating for non-citizens to cross the border and be constitutionally protected.
That is a violation of our social contract.
I am not going to protect those that do not exist in the same world as we do.
My government is for us, the American people, and these people are clearly acting outside of that when they murder, lie, cheat, steal.
And what did Jasmine Crockett say?
Committing a crime doesn't make you a criminal.
That quote's going viral right now.
So when you come to me and say, but Donald Trump is doing bad things to all of these people, I'll say they're not Americans.
Right?
I'm sorry.
And I'll stress, he's not even doing anything unconstitutional.
So I'm not going to even normally, in a normal circumstance, if Trump, the FCC said, we're going to go after this show or whatever, I'd be like, we got to be careful about slippery slope.
I ain't slippery slope in anything.
These people aren't us.
Jimmy Kimmel lying to the American people about the political leanings of a shooter to justify the murder of Charlie Kirk.
There's no slippery slope defense or anything from me.
I'm going to say, oh, that sucks for you.
And it's not even the FCC that did it.
It was advertisers.
So spare me your lies.
I'm done playing your games.
I want to defend you.
And if Donald Trump goes and starts arresting Antifa, I'm going to be like, okay, they're terrorists.
Sorry.
I watched a guy in black block throw an explosive at an 80-year-old woman when I was in Berkeley seven years ago.
And you mean to tell me that's protected speech?
I'm not playing these games.
Trump, go arrest all of them, and I ain't going to cry about it.
mary morgan
And it's refreshing that people on the right are finally coming around to that realization, growing up a little bit, and realizing that when you have power, you do need to wield it, especially if you want to keep it and you don't want to be oppressed.
These people cannot be taken at face value.
It's just the constant, you know, look at their hypocrisy.
Look at the left's hypocrisy narrative that discourse just has exhausted all of its value.
It's not worth calling out their hypocrisy anymore.
john reid
People on the right thought that this was all just going to shake out.
Like if we just stay cool, it's going to shake out.
And I'm really tired of seeing decent people who do have some sort of standard and morals and polite nature being played and having their good intentions used against them.
And so at some point, without devolving into a nation that's at war with itself, I mean, I think we're close to that already, unfortunately.
I mean, I'd like to be one of the people to try to stop that from happening on a regular basis, but we've got to send a message that we're not going to tolerate this.
I told somebody the other day: don't complain about a young person who thinks it's okay to shoot someone over political disagreements when in Virginia, John Hinckley Jr., who shot Ronald Reagan, is walking around colonial Williamsburg with no problem.
I mean, we let him out.
We said, oh, yeah, you were crazy back in 1981.
So, but, you know, time has gone by.
We're going to let you walk around.
I think that sends a signal.
We're not serious about this.
We don't really, if you could shoot the president and 30 years later, you're free to go play your guitar in the local bar in Williamsburg and nobody says anything about it.
That sends a signal to everyone.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story from MediaIte to exemplify the point.
Fox News is Kennedy sounds the alarm over Kimmel's suspension and warns Democrats could use precedent to target Fox.
My response is: Kennedy, do you have amnesia?
You work for a Fox business, I believe, and Tucker Carlson was kicked off the air.
All his advertisers were pulled.
Megan Kelly got fired.
I think she was what?
Was it NBC she was working for in the morning show?
Roseanne got fired over a joke.
I do not understand this.
She said, I do have an issue with some of the statements made by Brendan Carr because if there were an FCC commissioner on the other side of the political spectrum from someone maybe on this network and they didn't like their speech, would they put pressure on some of the advertisers?
And if someone from Fox moved on to Fox Broadcast to some of the own and operate stations there, that's the part of this that I do not like.
So I made a list.
It's not exhaustive.
I'm going to read it for you.
And I believe that Phil and all of you may be able to chime in.
But let me just start with this.
I tweeted.
Liberals and Democrats used the government to push for censorship of their political rivals, arrested their political rivals, got prominent comedians and personalities fired from their jobs, advocated death for children standing still in D.C. Remember that one?
Falsely charged their political rival with fraud, despite the alleged victims denying they were victimized, created special laws so people could sue and target their political rival, created a network of false information to smear their rival as a traitor, maliciously prosecuted the frontrunner for their rival parties in fake charges with no underlying crimes,
arrested the political lawyers, I'm sorry, arrested rival politicians lawyers for representing the politician, arrested teenagers for driving cars over sacred symbols, arrested people for burning their sacred flags, murdered Trump supporters and celebrated it, Aaron Danielson, Charlie Kirk, just two off the top of my head.
There was also all of the people who died during the BLM riots.
There was also the person who was shot in Provo, Utah.
There's also, they made lists of the next targets to kill.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
You know what?
You get it.
I say, we have learned.
There is no more, but when they take power, they killed Charlie.
There's literally nowhere else they can go.
If they win, we know what they're willing to do.
And killing us is already something they've done.
phil labonte
I mean, there was that program Arctic Frost that the FBI was using to target conservative or there's another one, including Charlie Kirk.
Just disclosed in the past couple days, this is not a situation where you can say, oh, well, if the right does it, then the left will do it when they get in power.
They're going to do it when they get back in power anyways.
We are literally living in a banana republic now.
Don't kid yourself.
This is not like stuff that happens in South America with basket case governments.
This is happening in the United States right now.
So I don't want to hear, oh, well, the left's going to do it if they get back in power, so you shouldn't do it.
No, they're going to do it anyways.
This is the reality of 2025.
tim pool
It's going to be worse than that.
And I'll add another one.
They falsely accused independent media personalities of being paid money to spread Russian propaganda, despite the fact that the content we produced in the Culture War and the content Dave Rubin produced were often apolitical and had nothing to do with politics at all.
So in what way are Dave Rubin's reactions to funny, viral videos like America's Funniest Home Video in any way spreading propaganda?
When the Culture War show, you know what we're doing tomorrow?
Exorcisms.
Because the Culture War is about culture, not politics.
Sometimes politics is involved, but typically it's not.
And they lied.
And a month after they announced that case, they dropped it.
They dropped it.
And this was in December under Biden.
It was fake the whole time.
And then in April, they totally, just basically killed the case, Lauren Chenish's statement about it.
Now, that one's personal.
And I have no problem adding it to the mix because I believe it was totally fake from the get-go.
And that's, so for those that don't know the story, in December of last year, I was begging my lawyers to get them to push this through and go public as heavy as they can.
And we were instructed by the feds, they no longer had any interest in the case, and it was basically over.
And I received my final bill, my final invoice.
And I said, I'm not, no, no, no.
I said, what can I do to keep this going?
I said, you can't.
The DOJ issued the indictment.
They have no evidence.
They've dropped it.
So what was this thing?
What they are going to do if they win is so much worse than just this stupid idea of, but maybe they'll censor you.
Already did that.
And not only did they already censor, but Michael Reinhold shot and killed Aaron Danielson.
And you know what Crowder told me today, which is fascinating?
When the economists put out that who's more responsible for political violence, that's not included as left-wing extremism.
BLM riots, which resulted in around either 26 to 32 deaths, do not count as political deaths.
They are lying.
And so hearing this, I'm just so sick of this argument.
If the Democrats win the midterms, Trump will be impeached.
He will never get new, there will never be legislation put through.
As bad as Mike Johnson is that everyone complains about, Democrats will do substantially worse because Republicans aren't willing to.
To be fair, I'm going to say this.
There's another story that maybe we'll get to in a bit that 48 of Trump's, I believe it's 48 of Trump's appointees have been confirmed in a single vote, which I don't think has it ever happened before?
No. 48 political appointees got confirmed in a single swipe of a pen, 51 to 40, I think the vote was.
With Trump saying he's going to name Antifa, a terrorist organization, with already criminal charges being sought among people like Latija James and Adam Schiff, I would not be surprised if by next week we actually see arrests, political arrests.
phil labonte
I would like to.
tim pool
I mean, the pace at which we are seeing action this past week following the killing of Charlie Kirk, I think there's a couple ways to look at it.
Anyone who is advising Trump from a lizard brain setting, let me start by saying, with all due respect to Charlie Kirk, a good man, an honorable man who fought, there is a political reality that people don't want to discuss.
And I am telling you, I am sure behind the scenes, an advisor to Trump said, with the death of Charlie Kirk, you effectively have carte blanche.
You can do whatever you want because they killed Charlie.
That is the cold lizard reality of what just happened.
And I think when you see the moves that are being made, Jimmy Kimmel getting pulled off the air, people getting fired from their jobs, the American people do not have the tolerance for this degree of political violence.
And the liberals are arguing that Trump is exploiting this for the purpose of expanding the security set of whatever he's doing.
I think it's fair to say that there are advisors telling Trump, if you're going to do it, you got to do it now.
john reid
It's got to be.
He's only got, he had 24 months.
The clock is running.
And that was the mistake of the first term was slow rolling it.
Oh, we'll get to it.
We'll get to it later.
And then you get annihilated in the midterms, which is predictable even in the best circumstances.
I mean, he's got to take action.
If there was stuff that he promised or if there are things that he fundamentally wants to do to change the way Washington operates, there's a very limited window.
And let's be honest, I'll get through my election in November.
We'll start up again in January.
And then, what, everybody gets cold feet by about April or May because then every member of the Congress has to go out and campaign.
And they don't want anything too controversial that'll screw up their race.
So everything kind of stops in D.C. about April, maybe May of next year.
elad eliahu
Given the current political climate, do you fear for your safety at all as a Republican candidate?
john reid
There's nothing new.
What's happened with Charlie Kirk has made a lot of people pay attention.
But the day I got the nomination, there was a guy, I was live streaming a press conference talking about my opponent, and there were people putting comments on the live stream.
You deserve a bullet in your head.
And I took it to the cops.
They said, okay, we'll archive them.
Nobody did anything about it.
So I hate to admit this, but this is nothing new.
Now, am I worried about it?
This weekend, I'm going to be campaigning without security all over the state.
And I just, I'm six foot three.
Normally, people don't mess with me, but if you want to blow somebody away, that doesn't matter.
Yeah.
mary morgan
So you went to the authorities and they were like, oh, yeah, we'll look into it.
john reid
Well, what does this actually mean?
And can we identify this person?
mary morgan
That's why we also cannot rely on the authorities to take action on these things.
And that's why I'm so glad that whoever these anonymous people are that started the Charlie Kirk Data Foundation are doing this important work of archiving this information.
They're not doxing anyone.
Nobody is advocating for cruelty to people on the left.
john reid
I'm not saying kill that guy.
mary morgan
Yeah, we don't want to meet their cruelty with cruelty.
We just want justice.
phil labonte
I want to see people arrested so that way they're not a threat to society.
tim pool
Indeed, people who are advocating or inciting violence should be charged for it.
And my attitude right now is five years ago, if someone said, oh, won't someone rid me of this priest?
I'd say, yeah, yeah, we get it.
Today, if someone says it, I say, charge him.
john reid
Yeah.
Andy No, I brought him to Richmond to speak to this group that I founded, right?
I knew it would be somewhat controversial.
We had it booked in a really nice private club.
Antifa harassed the club.
I mean, blew up the phone calls, scared them.
We moved to a hotel.
The same thing happened.
We kept it secret until the day of the speech.
Antifa went all over the hotel, made the front desk clerks cry, said we're going to murder and slaughter everybody who steps into the hotel.
We got booted.
We finally got Andy No in front of a crowd with, you know, like a one-hour notice of where it was going to be and had to have snipers in the parking lot.
And there was a guy who was identified as posting minimally provocative stuff, like a guy carrying a TNT box and he said, I'm on the way to blow up the Andy No event.
They let that slide, the prosecutor in my home county let it slide for about a month and then dismiss the charges.
And I kept saying, when are you going to make an example of people to say you can't, with a wink and a nod, act like this is okay to intimidate people?
tim pool
You know that they're planning on protesting Charlie's funeral.
john reid
Oh, disgusting, but I'm sure.
phil labonte
It's disgusting, but that will do horrible things for the left because the optics of protesting a funeral of a man that has was murdered is going to do more damage to the Democrat Party than Destiny did.
john reid
Well, that's that lesbo.
tim pool
And you know what?
If they had considered that, they would not have this.
So I'll keep it light, but should they have considered that after this lunatic liberal shot and murdered Charlie, they would not have posted to social media celebrating the death, dancing on his grave.
They don't care what you think.
And I think the issue is for the past 15 or so years, liberals ruled through fear and blunt and brute force.
Most people don't agree that men are women or whatever or children should get sex changes, but they were terrified that if they said anything, they would not only get fired from their jobs, they could be beaten for it.
So they kept their mouths shut.
And liberals and leftists with impunity could say whatever they wanted because they were willing to be violent and police wouldn't do anything about it.
john reid
And they got used to it.
And now the arrogance is out of control.
tim pool
And now, exactly.
Now that Trump is in office and people are feeling more comfortable calling it out, they went on social media and celebrated and the backlash was intense.
And now Jimmy Kimmel has lost his job.
And they're starting to learn.
We don't tolerate it.
No one should have ever tolerated it.
But finally, people are waking up saying no.
And Donald Trump is more empowered now, not just him, but law enforcement to shut this down.
A really great example.
When that guy trampled the memorial, I think it was in Arizona.
Not sure.
And a couple of a bunch of supporters of Charlie Kirk grabbed him and threw him down.
Five years ago, those guys would have been arrested.
unidentified
You're right.
tim pool
They arrested the guy who trampled the memorial because the police know who butters their who butters their bread now.
john reid
Go ahead.
That's the perfect example of how the tables have turned.
The attitude has changed.
Our side's not going to sit quiet.
And I think the cops do realize who's on their side and who's not.
And to your point, about protesting Charlie's funeral, doing damage to the left, I would use the example of how the Westboro Baptist Church guys went and protested the gay people who died of AIDS and interrupted funerals where a decent person would say, no matter what I think of you, no matter how much I dislike you or I have a problem with you, bury your dead and we're not going to interrupt you.
I mean, that's just kind of a decent way to live.
tim pool
Are you familiar with the Christmas truce?
The famous World War I, I think it was that on Christmas, they laid down their arms and they drank hot cocoa and tea or whatever and celebrated Christmas enemies and then with went back to the trenches.
It's just so it's crazy.
john reid
And all that's been lost.
That's what the left has done to this culture.
People used to disagree.
I mean, it probably wasn't as divergent.
Well, we didn't have the divergent opinions as extreme as they are today, but at least people agreed on the way we generally treat each other.
Like somebody, I mean, I wasn't around when Robert Kennedy was killed.
I went around when JFK was killed.
I went around when MLK was killed.
But I'm guessing that if you had something really nasty to say about any of those killings, you probably would have said it in your house privately and not.
Maybe someone will prove me wrong and pull up the archives and they'll be able to prove that that's not true.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story.
Ladies and gentlemen, Donald Trump has accused Ilhan Omar of immigration fraud.
Now, he didn't explicitly say he wasn't taking any action, but following this post on Truth Social, many people on X are saying Trump has fired the first salvo in stripping her of citizenship and deporting her.
Maybe.
We will see if it escalates that point, but let me read what he said.
Trump says, Ilhan Omar's country of Somalia is plagued by a lack of central government control, persistent poverty, hunger, resurgent terrorism, piracy, decades of civil war, corruption, and pervasive violence.
70% of the population lives in extreme poverty and widespread food insecurity.
Somalia is consistently ranked among the world's most corrupt countries, including bribery, embezzlement, and a dysfunctional government.
All of this, and Ilhan Omar tells us how to run America.
P.S. Wasn't she the one that married her brother in order to gain citizenship?
What scum we have in our country telling us what to do and how to do it.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Make America great again.
Now, I will highlight this article from the Minnesota Star Tribune.
For those unfamiliar, this is not a conservative newspaper.
And they reported in 2019, new documents revisit questions about Rep Ilhan Omar's marriage history.
Although she has legally corrected the discrepancy, she has declined to say anything about how or why it happened.
New investigative documents released by a state agency have given fresh life to lingering questions about the marital history of Rep Ilhan Omar and whether she once married a man, possibly her own brother, to skirt immigration laws.
She's denied these as baseless rumors, but even the Star Tribune says she possibly married her own brother.
Why would Donald Trump make this post saying it's her country of Somalia, didn't she skirt immigration laws?
I think it's a reasonable assessment that Donald Trump may make a move to strip her of citizenship, revoke, and deport.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, look, if it comes out, there should be an investigation.
And if it comes out that she did violate the law, no one is above the law.
She broke the law.
Send her back.
I don't care that she's been elected.
She has broken the law to attain citizenship.
tim pool
Let's put it like this.
If someone defrauds you and tricks their way into living in your basement, like they give you fake documents, or let's say a three-fly, we'll just make it easier.
And you're renting out the first floor as a single unit apartment and they lie on all the documents so they can do it, claim they have a job when they don't.
Should you be forced to just let them stay?
Or should you say, hey, you defrauded me?
I don't buy this argument that, you know, they would say like, well, it's pretty dangerous.
She was elected.
So what?
I agree with Phil.
If it turns out she defrauded the U.S. government for immigration, then her election is void.
That's it.
Goodbye.
john reid
You're not a citizen.
You weren't eligible to be a citizen.
tim pool
Well, I think in her instance, the way of Trump's framing it, the rumor, I should say the reporting actually, is that she married her brother so her brother would be granted citizenship.
phil labonte
I see.
tim pool
However, if she commits immigration fraud, that does subject her to revocation of her immigration status.
That citizenship can be revoked if you are someone who is naturalized.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
How far are we going with this?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, all the way?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I mean, look, if you've broken immigration law, you know?
john reid
Looks like everything else.
At some point, you got to be tough on whether you're going to allow violence, whether you're going to excuse murder, whether you're going to allow people to break the law.
I mean, the problem is we spent 30 years just letting things slide, on immigration, especially, just letting everything go.
And now you've got chaos and Trump is back to try to restore some order to that.
And it's not, it's never going to be nice.
It's like when the new teacher arrives and the class has been out of control and the new teacher shows up and says, hell no, you're not going to act like this in my classroom.
And everybody goes, what?
unidentified
What?
john reid
What?
That's Trump.
He's cracking the whip and saying we are not going to allow this anymore.
I think that's probably a good thing for us.
elad eliahu
So I think it's worth mentioning that this truth is coming on the heels of a failed censure vote in the House that would have ultimately stripped Ilhan Omar of her House committee assignments.
So she had two different House committee assignments.
She had some comments about the death of Charlie Kirk, and some people viewed it as justifying it.
So Representative Nancy Mace brought forward that censure vote that failed by one vote as a result of four Republican House members voting against it.
So, I mean, this is the reason why Republicans always lose because Corey Mills is sending out tweets justifying his vote to not censure Ilhan Omar saying, we may not like or agree with someone, with what someone says, but that does not mean we should deny their protected First Amendment right.
House Republicans are afraid to wield power.
Ilhan Omar is one of the most disgusting members of the House.
And the fact that the Republicans weren't able to achieve this censure by one vote, Corey Mills is allegedly trying to avoid censure of his own from the Democrats.
And this was kind of a quick pro quo, trying to like save the skin off of his back for alleged improprieties that were coming his way.
So like this dirty politics is what helps prevent, you know, these outrageous Democrats, these socialist far-left leftists in the House from being held to account.
So I think Corey Mills has like something serious to answer for.
tim pool
He wasn't the only Republican, right?
elad eliahu
He was one of three other Republicans in total.
But here's the thing, Corey Mills is a MAGA firebrand who should be voting to censure Ilhan Omar.
But he's using the cover of free speech in the most BS and manipulative way.
The issue with this free speech conversation, too, is that while Republicans and right-wingers are principled in their free speech, left-wingers are just willing to use it against them.
They're not truly against doxync or getting people fired from their jobs.
They're just against it when the right is willing to use it against the left.
And it's just so sad how weak these Republicans, some of these Republicans in the House are.
It seems whenever we get so close.
Well, it was only these four who really screwed up the vote.
I could pull up the names, but it seems there is always a few that prevent them from getting this through.
But he is the MAGA firebrand, right?
Corey Mills from Florida.
He is supposed to be the MAGA guy.
tim pool
So it's Corey Mills, Mike Flood, Jeff Hurd, and Tom McClintock.
elad eliahu
Trash.
So, you know, this is why Ilhan will continue to have committee assignments.
A far-left Islamist in the House will continue to have her house assignments, her committee assignments because of Corey Mills.
tim pool
I'm confused.
elad eliahu
Yes.
tim pool
Why didn't Israel just get her removed?
elad eliahu
I guess Israel's not giving enough money.
APAC's not doing its work.
They have their work cut out for them.
tim pool
What's going on, brother?
elad eliahu
That's why I'm here now lobbying against Corey Mills.
It's full service.
tim pool
Isn't it the best Israel have?
They send somebody to go on Timcast IRL to lobby.
elad eliahu
That's not even like a great guest.
And if anything ever happened to you, just like how all this stuff around Charlie Kirk that Candace has going on, if anything happened to you, immediately it'll be Israel's fault.
tim pool
That's why I have a picture of Elad looking around the corner staring at me in a creepy way.
And it's set to publish the next week.
And every week I update it.
That way, if anything does happen to me, it'll upload automatically.
And then everyone will be like, wait, what?
john reid
Thinking ahead.
Thank you.
elad eliahu
And tell me if anything happened to him, I do get to inherit the show.
And then we're changing it over to officially JuCast IRL.
It won't be a joke anymore.
But what the hell, Corey Mills?
john reid
He's counting the victim to uphold their agreement.
I mean, if your supposition is that there's a backroom deal to protect him, I wouldn't count on it.
I wouldn't count on it.
These people do not honor agreements.
elad eliahu
And then there was also Lamonica MacIver or something from New Jersey where they were.
Didn't jail yet?
No, there was another deal there to prevent that censure from moving forward because of these such slim majorities.
tim pool
You cannot exist as a nation when you cut political deals with people who break the law in this way.
And we have done it for too long.
And the argument is always, but we don't want to fight.
And it goes back to, what was it, was it 1876 when our president was chosen by committee and not by election, which ended Reconstruction?
Basically, the fear was the civil war was going to break out again.
They couldn't figure out who was actually going to win.
And so they compromised.
A committee came together and said, let's just decide who the president's going to be.
Then we'll all agree at the fight, right?
Okay.
So in exchange for this person being president, we'll end Reconstruction.
And there we go.
And from there, this is a country of, I know you broke the law, but if you agree not to come after me, I won't go after you.
So at the highest level, you have DC a swamp full of swamp monsters breaking the law and cutting backroom deals.
You can't function this way.
That Mick Ivor, she's the one who hit the cop, right?
Punched the cop.
elad eliahu
ICAG.
tim pool
Why isn't she in jail?
She punched the cop.
elad eliahu
Because they're scared to prosecute her.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, when regular people can watch a politician punch a cop and get away with it, they're going to say, I guess laws are off then, huh?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Then what do you think happens next?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, more of what we've already got.
It's going to intensify.
I mean, I would love to see, I would love to see some reconciliation.
I would love to see the temperature cool off because I don't want to see a hot civil war.
But we've been taking steps towards that, you know, for the past at least five years, six years.
john reid
It doesn't have to be reconciliation.
It just has to be an agreement that we're all going to obey the same laws.
Like, I can't go into a museum that's hung a painting that I don't like that offends me and my Christian beliefs and throw red paint on it.
And you can't go into the streets of Richmond, Virginia and throw a rope around a Confederate statue that nobody voted to take down and drag it through the street just because you are offended by those statues.
I mean, maybe you have a reason to be offended.
That's on you, but we have to obey the law.
And that's completely out the window now.
tim pool
I think that this period, which is devolving into Civil War, whatever happens, started probably with 2007, 2008.
And you could make the argument that it's tied to the, what was the, what was the, uh, the act that allowed the mixing of investments on brain finance when the Dodd or whatever it was.
phil labonte
Oh, Dodd Frank.
tim pool
Dodd-Frank.
There you go.
I was going to say Frank Dodd.
I'm like, that's not right.
Yeah.
So some people argue like that's what's, that's all policy stuff.
2007 was the ground level, the groundswell political moment where people snapped and it created a network of global crises that have never been solved.
Notably, I was supposed to have a kid in 2008.
Traditionally, I was about 22, 23 years old into 2009.
That's the age at which people usually have kids.
The financial crash happened and I couldn't afford to do anything, so I didn't.
And most millennials didn't because we had no jobs.
We were living together as roommates.
That's what we could afford.
There was no prospect of growth.
And we didn't even know it was a problem.
We didn't even know what was happening because to us, the way I've often explained it is I was already at the bottom.
So when the market collapsed, I didn't go anywhere.
What people, like what I and my cohorts didn't understand is that we were supposed to be growing in financial access, housing, et cetera, and then have kids around that time.
Without kids, you get a bunch of angry, listless young men with no families and nothing to lose.
You get a collapsing economy.
You get political crisis after political crisis.
Then you got the Tea Party.
You got Occupy Wall Street, which turned into Donald Trump, which turned into the Russia Gate era.
If you go back to 2007, since then, it's pretty wild to think about.
When I imagine what life was like in 2013, 14, I don't know, I'm going to see Marvel movies, skateboarding.
Things don't seem that bad.
But when you look back at a condensed history, the way we look at, say, the World War I and II era, the Civil War, the Revolutionary War, the condensation of history makes it look pretty startling.
In 2007, the global financial crisis hits.
People lose their jobs.
People's savings are wiped out.
Young people don't get a start on life.
This leads to anger over these bailouts for these big, ultra-rich fat cats.
And the people on the ground experienced what corruption led to.
Then you get the Tea Party angry that the representatives were not actually dealing with the problem.
You get the Tea Party groundswell on the Republican side.
Then you get Occupy Wall Street in 2011, where more urban level people, urban-centered people were saying the exact same thing.
Barack Obama was not solving these problems.
He was giving big bailouts to banks and big companies and CEOs, and we got the shaft.
We lost our houses.
We paid the bills.
We faced inflation.
Obama didn't solve the problem.
He got re-elected.
He didn't solve the problem.
What did we get?
Nothing.
So what happens?
Trump begins to emerge.
The sentiment that led to Donald Trump was bubbling up during Occupy Wall Street.
A combination of cultural issues and populist outcry led to Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump, and the machine state panicked.
So they did whatever they did to Bernie Sanders, whatever that was.
And then Donald Trump wasn't supposed to win.
He ended up winning.
How did they respond?
They accused him of being a traitor, claimed he was a traitor to this country, probably going back years and decades, and tried to put him in prison, tried to destroy his life, cemented his feet in his first administration so he couldn't really move.
And then you move into the next, you move into the Biden era.
You get Arctic Frost targeting conservative organizations.
And don't get me wrong, like, you know, you had Obama going after Tea Party groups and other conservatives with the IRS and things like that.
All of this stuff is a catastrophe bubbling up and escalating going back to around 2007.
I don't buy the arguments people make.
Well, Bush did this.
No, no, no.
The machine state foreign war stuff was totally par for the course for this country for the past 50, 60 years, the military industrial complex.
2007 is where things got weird.
And it's also the time of social media.
All of this is the collapse of our system.
And it's come to this moment.
It's been getting worse.
It's getting worse.
And I don't see any of this turning around, to be completely honest.
phil labonte
I mean, I don't see it either.
That's one of the things that we are constantly talking about.
Where's the off-ramp?
How do we fix this?
And the more you listen to people on, you know, on the left, the more you realize that they don't want to.
Like a week ago when Charlie was killed, that changed everything in this country because people saw, like normal people and conservatives saw the vitriol about someone that was not actually a politician, right?
He just was out there.
He was an activist, but he was just out there expressing his beliefs.
And he was, you know, he was trying to discuss these things with people that disagreed.
tim pool
Here's a story for you guys from CBS News.
22-year-old man charged with threatening to kill New Hampshire Governor Kelly Ayot.
How do you pronounce that?
unidentified
Ayote?
phil labonte
Yeah, a yacht.
tim pool
A yacht?
phil labonte
Ayat.
tim pool
You live there, not me.
phil labonte
Ayat.
tim pool
A 22-year-old man is in custody after police a threatened to kill New Hampshire Governor Kelly Ayat.
Tristan Anderson of Hook Sit, New Hampshire is charged with criminal threatening and harm or threats to certain government officials.
The criminal complaint against Anderson released Thursday alleges that he didn't knowingly threaten to commit the crime of homicide and or assault against Governor Kelly Ayat, the current governor of the state of New Hampshire, for the purpose of influencing such officials' actions or in retaliation for action taken as part of such government's official duties.
He was allegedly messaging with a woman on Snapchat saying he was going to target the New Hampshire mayor, Kelly Ayat, with my weapon of mass destruction.
He had also made anti-Semitic remarks in the messages as well.
The woman told police that Anderson owned guns and that he had made mention of making pipe bombs.
Anderson allegedly had shown them in metal tubes he was using to make the bombs as well as nuts and bolts he was going to put in them.
Police said Anderson had allegedly bought fireworks and taken them apart to create pipe bombs.
He was arrested August 28th and remains in custody without bail pending his next court appearance.
Ayat is a Republican who previously previously senator defeated the Democrat.
They reached out to Ayat's office for comment.
His arrest happened before the murder of Charlie Kirk, but it was revealed during a heated national debate about political violence.
If every policy that is being promoted by your rivals is some kind of existential threat and a catastrophe in the end of the Republic that further intensifies this kind of emotional stress, it sounds like what they are saying from this story is that this was a politically motivated death threat or threat against the governor because he did not like what she was doing.
Yeah, I mean, what is happening that yesterday several cops are shot, ICE agents are nearly getting run over and then shoot and kill the people.
Like these stories are almost every single day now, if not every single day.
And the scary thing is the desensitization to them.
There's another story that I will attach to this one because we don't have the full details.
Tommy Gonzalez, I'm sorry, Tony Gonzalez staffer, death under investigation.
Her body was on fire.
I don't want to die, she told her mother who found her.
They don't say what happened.
They say they're not suspecting foul play, but it is currently under investigation.
So I am very curious how a Republican staffer was found immolated saying, I don't want to die.
And they're like.
elad eliahu
That's very odd.
Do you know who's running against him, by the way?
tim pool
Who is it?
elad eliahu
Brandon Herrera.
tim pool
Interesting.
elad eliahu
Yeah, totally.
On the heels of this story, does that make you reconsider your security arrangements while campaigning?
john reid
I mean, I don't have any option.
I don't have any money, man.
You know, I mean, I guess if I could go higher, I've got a couple of guys who've said I'll go out with you and shadow you and try to help you if something happens.
I appreciate that.
But it's.
And who wants to live like that?
I'm not running for president of the United States.
I'm running for lieutenant governor of Virginia.
I shouldn't have to.
uh have 24-hour security.
I should be able to get in the car like I did to come see you guys and not worry about it.
I'm just not going to live that way.
You know, I'm going to be careful.
But I mean, it's crazy.
And you know what the problem is?
Yes, these stories are happening every day.
But if you go back to 2020, people thought I was overreacting on my radio show.
I was like, why are we not shutting this down?
We've got cops being ambushed and assassinated in Dallas, I think, when the BLM Antifa riots first started.
We had the police in Richmond, Virginia, went into their precinct.
Nobody even reported on it.
They didn't even bother.
They set the building on fire with the cops inside.
People have not been prosecuted.
The United Daughters of the Confederacy Museum and Library in Richmond.
I mean, maybe you hate the Confederacy.
Maybe you hate those little old ladies who run the body.
I don't know.
But that was firebombed.
And no one has ever been arrested or prosecuted.
What signal does that send?
It says we don't care.
It says as a culture, we're willing to tolerate this.
And we should hammer these people regardless of whether they're on the right or the left.
And we should also be honest that most of it is coming from the left.
Most of it is coming from the left.
And so you have an entire generation of people who've been raised to think, if I personally get spun up about something and hate something or hate somebody, then it's okay to go after them.
And that's on us as a society.
And the leaders who've been in place who haven't had the guts because they were afraid they'd be called a racist or they were afraid they'd be called a homophobe or they were afraid of being called a name.
They didn't stand up and hammer these bad guys.
Now we're all suffering.
elad eliahu
I know you have a race coming up.
I don't know if you wanted to touch on it a little bit.
Early voting starts tomorrow.
Why should people in Virginia vote for you?
john reid
Well, what I just said, I think I'm one of the few people over the last several years who's in Virginia at least, who's had the guts to say what needs to be said and not be worried about being called names.
I've been called names my whole life.
You're not going to upset me with that and you're not going to back me down from that.
And I think it, I mean, it's not like I'm proposing anything that's outrageous or unusual.
It's called obey the law.
And I don't think we have draconian crazy laws in Virginia, certainly.
And I don't even think in the United States we have crazy laws.
Just obey the law.
And those laws are based on treating everybody with some basic level of respect, not harming the other person.
We've lost it all.
elad eliahu
Let me ask.
I understand no matter what happens in your race, people are going to view it as a bellwether about what's going on in the country.
john reid
Well, I've reminded the people in D.C. about that.
Yeah.
Yeah, November 5th, whatever happens in Virginia and New Jersey will be discussed as a harbinger for what Trump's giving.
elad eliahu
If you're viewed as a referendum on the president, what do you think of the president?
If you had to give him a grade, what would you give him on how he's governing?
john reid
Well, you know, I've voted for Trump three times.
I don't regret that.
He's a controversial guy.
I don't even argue with people when they want to bring up his personality.
I'm like, I'm not debating his personality.
I will discuss the policies.
And I do think he's implementing policies that will put us, I pray to God, in a better situation.
No one wants to talk about being $37 trillion in debt.
I mean, look at Greece, look at Italy, look at other countries filled with smart people.
They have had economic collapses that have burdened the citizens because they just didn't rein in their spending and their financial obligations.
And I think Trump is the first person to step up and try to do that.
Now, there's pain associated with it.
It's a bad situation.
It doesn't feel good, but I can't, nobody can run a government making everybody feel good.
You have to make some tough decisions.
elad eliahu
I know one of his biggest initiatives has been on immigration.
He's quadrupled the funding towards ICE.
Do you support what he's doing across the country?
I think reaching for a million deportations a year of illegal aliens here.
john reid
We all have to obey the law.
We all have to obey the law.
So if you're here, it's not like this just came up yesterday.
We've been talking about it for a decade or more.
When I worked in the Senate, 2004, 2005, 2006, we were talking about whether we could secure the southern border.
For God's sake, no one pulled it off until Trump arrived.
Now, their consequence, I have friends who are here illegally, and I said, man, here's the name of a lawyer.
He's a Democrat, not even a Republican.
He will help you get your paperwork straight.
But if you sit around and don't do it, you're going to be booted out of the country.
Do you understand that?
And a lot of people blew me off and said, I don't think so.
Everything's cool.
No, it's not.
You've got to obey the law.
We all have to obey the law.
elad eliahu
I know your neighbors to the north in Maryland, they're having this issue with the so-called Maryland man that all the Democrats seem to be going to visit, Mr. Kilmar Obrego Garcia.
Have you heard about that case?
People say Trump was overstepping there.
Do you think the president was overstepping?
john reid
It's not overstepping.
It's not overstepping at all.
Look, there should be one day where we say, Are you documented?
Have you taken care of the responsibilities you have?
And if the answer is no, I'm so sorry.
I'm a nice guy.
I don't like to hurt people, but you're going to have to go.
And when I lived in Kuwait, for God's sake, I was the head of international development for a firm.
They put me in Kuwait.
I think, if I remember correctly, my visa was for 60 days, my work visa.
You can bet I was out of there on day 58 because I wasn't going to let anybody in that country claim that I was missing the deadline.
So I left on the 58th day and then stayed away for a week and then came back.
That was my obligation.
Look, everybody's going to obey the law.
And if you've ever traveled around the world, you know that the rest of the world is not very nice about it.
elad eliahu
One of the ways that you would be a trailblazer if elected is that you would be the first openly gay lieutenant governor, I believe, across the country.
john reid
Can you talk a little bit about that?
I mean, statewide elected official in Virginia, and no Republican who's gay has ever been elected statewide, ever.
Democrats have been doing that.
elad eliahu
Are Virginian Republicans ready for a gay lieutenant governor?
john reid
I think they are ready for a solid conservative, and that's me.
The fact that I'm gay is, I'm not going to lie to you.
There's some people who are upset about that, but I can't help them.
I mean, I worked for Ronald Reagan.
I was comms director for George Allen.
I've spent the last eight years standing up for everything Christian conservatives are concerned about and believe in, most of which I completely correspond with.
So I think a lot of people were skeptical when I first started running, like, oh, my God, we can't cross this line.
And then they got to know me.
They went back and listened to the 9,000 hours of broadcast time where I stood up for them and the things they believe in.
And now they're like, well, damn, how crazy is it that there is a gay Republican who actually has the balls to stand up and say what needs to be said and to defend us and defend law and order?
And I think that counts.
elad eliahu
There are many gay Republicans.
I think most prominently Scott Besant.
I feel like there is a non-insignificant minority in the Republican Party, though, who is questioning the Obergefeld decision.
How would you respond to somebody who, a Republican who says, I can't support you because of your sexuality?
Have you come across that on the campus?
john reid
Oh, oh, my gosh.
There have been plenty of people who have said that.
And I've said, well, you know, when it was the primary time, of course, it's your vote.
You get to decide whether I represent you well enough or not or whether I match.
I would ask them to actually search their soul as to whether they, have you ever voted for a candidate that you thought was perfect?
I mean, really, I voted for my dad nine times, and we didn't agree on everything.
I didn't think he was perfect, but he represented me by and large the way I wanted him to.
I made the argument that that was me in this case.
And then now that I am the nominee, I have said to some people, well, now you got two choices.
You can go with the gay guy that you really don't like, but yeah, he's with you.
Or you can vote for the radical leftist who's, you know, a Muslim and wants to put girls in jeopardy in their locker room and wants boys to play on girls' sports and voted to keep the schools closed for an extra year and the mask mandate.
I mean, she's everything you say you hate, but what you can't vote for me.
And I actually have stood up for you overnight as a proven thing.
It's not like a hypothetical.
I mean, that's a moral dilemma that you have to make.
I don't know.
tim pool
Let's jump to the story.
We got video emerging from New York.
Protesters take the streets of Times Square in Manhattan chanting F. Charlie Kirk and calling him racist.
They're demanding justice for Corey Zucatis and Trey Reid.
Two people, one of them, a black student, were found hanging from trees in Mississippi.
This is at different locations.
I will stress: Trey Reid committed suicide.
That's the medical examiner report.
They're protesting for a dude who, it's sad, took his own life while screaming F. Charlie Kirk.
unidentified
Fuck Charlie Kirk.
Fuck Charlie Kirk.
tim pool
Why?
unidentified
Fuck Charlie Kirk.
john reid
Fuck Charlie Kirk.
unidentified
He was a racist.
tim pool
He was a racist.
elad eliahu
I'm personally familiar with that protester who threatened me in my Instagram deal.
unidentified
He was not like prominent protesters.
elad eliahu
He's doing this for attention.
And look, nobody gives a crap.
Nobody gives a shit.
He's just trying to be controversial.
tim pool
Justice for Trey Reed.
Can I just show you this?
This is from here we go.
Clarion Ledger, MS Medical Examiner releases a report on hanging of black men at Delta State.
They even called it a hanging of a black man.
The Mississippi State Medical Examiner has come to the conclusion that the hanging death of Trey Reid from a tree at Delta State was consistent with suicide.
Findings were consistent with the initial investigation determining the cause of death to be hanging in the matter of death as suicide.
Final toxicology results are pending and may take two to four weeks.
This is what we have to deal with.
I just saw a post from this liberal person I know where they posted to their Instagram story a guy being like, how do you know if you're actually on the right side if both sides are saying that they're right about everything?
And I'm like, I read the news all day every day and fact check it.
And I don't know how you conclude anything different when the medical examiner says it was a suicide, but they're protesting for justice while screaming Charlie was a racist.
They don't live in reality.
elad eliahu
These guys are looking for attention.
These are losers who are looking for attention.
tim pool
Every single protester and every liberal, sure.
elad eliahu
This guy in particular.
unidentified
None of the protesters.
tim pool
I get that.
elad eliahu
People should be taking care of his children at home.
mary morgan
Is that guy a career activist?
elad eliahu
He's just a loser bum.
No, no job or dead end job.
mary morgan
Where does he lay his head at night?
How does he buy food?
elad eliahu
Some run down apartment apartment and out of town.
Doesn't pay his child support.
Isn't married to his baby mama.
Half of those are good educated guesses.
But I take the bet nonetheless.
unidentified
Yeah.
mary morgan
We're demons.
unidentified
Yeah.
mary morgan
Demons walking among us.
tim pool
This is crazy.
I got to pull this up because I don't know what's going on anymore these days.
This tweet just dropped.
Numerous officers rushing towards UNCW amphitheater with a helicopter circling above.
Law enforcement officer reported that four suspects are in custody while one fled to the woods.
We have no idea what happened.
mary morgan
We saw a different report that said there was one apprehension and it was that was the person that was seen with the walking with the rifle.
unidentified
Yeah.
mary morgan
So I don't know if that's true.
I looked at it like just a few minutes ago.
tim pool
They're investigating.
I don't see any latest updates.
They're saying continue to shelter in place while the law enforcement are doing sweeps.
Guys, I don't know what's going on in this country.
All I can tell you is we may be hyper-focused on social media, so every little instance looks like something bigger than it really is.
Or we could be in something bigger than we think it is.
mary morgan
However, this is the same school where they vandalized a Charlie memorial with the trans flag just a day ago, right?
A couple of days ago.
phil labonte
With the colors of the trans flag, they were using the rock, the thing.
tim pool
Apparently, I'm told after the fact that I only just learned this, the rock is painted over every other day.
So the painting over the memorial was just the normal process by which people come and change, and tomorrow someone else will paint it.
john reid
But she did that very deliberately.
mary morgan
Of course, I mean, I saw the video.
It didn't look like she was authorized to do that.
tim pool
Apparently, they call it like memorial, like it's called Freedom Rock or Honor Rock or something like that.
And anybody can go and paint it whenever they want.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
And it gets painted over every other day or something.
john reid
But to walk up and do it right in front of the people that are having their own ceremony.
phil labonte
So it's not vandalism, but it's still in response to Charlie Kirk and it's trans colors specifically because it was Charlie.
tim pool
Here's some more video.
Mario Noffel's posting this.
unidentified
Oh my God.
Holy shit.
Oh.
tim pool
They're still saying shelter in place following this video of the guy with the rifle.
I don't know.
You know, honestly, like somebody walks around with a gun and then people scream and lose their minds for no reason.
That's what happened in Utah where that Antifa guy had an AR-15 that he was open carrying legally and then two liberal guys freaked out and started shooting at him and killed a random guy.
It's like that dude carrying the rifle did nothing wrong.
I don't like Antifa, but he's allowed to open carry.
mary morgan
I don't think that's allowed on a campus, though.
tim pool
Campus, I understand.
That's why I'm saying like.
mary morgan
And he's clearly doing it to menace other people.
tim pool
This guy carrying that rifle.
How is he menacing anybody?
He's not pointing at anybody.
mary morgan
What is he doing coming home from class and just randomly has a rifle in his hand?
tim pool
What if it's an air rifle he got?
We can't tell what that is.
It could be a BB gun.
phil labonte
Right.
tim pool
That's why I'm saying like we see all these videos of the cops running and freaking out and it may be like someone posted the video.
Everybody panicked.
A bunch of reports started coming in because everyone's freaking out.
And then it's possible.
I'm not saying this is not shelter in place.
Take it seriously.
But it may turn out this guy like the next day is like, was that because of me?
john reid
I mean, there are parts of the country where that would not freak people out.
tim pool
That's my point.
mary morgan
You have to be autistic to not know.
tim pool
No, absolutely not.
In North Carolina, in Florida, in Virginia, in Virginia, you can buy a break action 22 air rifle, pellet gun that looks just like that.
And if you're walking around with it, no one's going to care.
You could walk into a Walmart and buy one and walk out with it over your shoulder.
john reid
But you would think this guy, if he's at all aware of what's going on, if he means no harm, would put it in a case or would make sure that it's not out.
mary morgan
Obviously, yeah, if he has any social decorum.
And you know what?
john reid
And fear for his own safety, probably.
mary morgan
He was walking gay.
I'm just going to say it.
Everyone's thinking it.
He was walking gay.
tim pool
Let's see.
It's a...
It's an open carry state and it is a permit.
You need a concealed carry license for concealed carry.
So for long guns, you can open carry.
He's not doing anything wrong.
unidentified
I doubt that's allowed on campus, though.
tim pool
It is in Utah.
Even where we look this up where Charlie Kirk got shot, you can open carry rifles.
mary morgan
Yeah, I just doubt that that's allowed on UNC Wilmington's campus.
tim pool
Let's find out.
phil labonte
I mean, look, they've got a shelter-in-place order.
Were there people shot or were there shots that were heard?
tim pool
It is prohibited.
john reid
On the campus.
tim pool
Yeah.
john reid
Most campuses, a problem.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah.
john reid
So he's making a statement of some kind.
mary morgan
Right.
john reid
Assuming he wasn't trying to threaten someone.
He's making some sort of statement.
mary morgan
Bro thought that was tough.
john reid
And it ain't going to work out for him.
mary morgan
No.
john reid
One way or another.
phil labonte
No.
I mean, look at it.
mary morgan
All I saw is that one person had been taken into custody.
But maybe it's outdated now.
tim pool
Okay, exemptions do exist.
Instructional supplies, tools for instruction, maintenance, weapon use for education or school sanctioned ceremonial purposes or in school approved programs.
elad eliahu
So it's likely an unkosher rifle on campus.
Right.
tim pool
Yep.
I'll put it like this.
This is what a civil war would look like.
And I think people don't, again, I said it over and over again this past week because of the severity of what's going on.
But yeah, you can't open carry on that campus.
And a video comes out of a guy.
And honestly, we don't even know if that's at UNCW, to be completely honest.
Maybe the people who are there do, but for me watching this video, I have no idea.
You get videos of police running.
You get reports of a 22-year-old threatening to make bombs.
You get reports of a congressional staffer being immolated, saying, I don't want to die.
And they're saying, we'll release a report later.
No signs of foul play.
You get stories like this all the time.
That's what it looks like.
This is what's scary.
So we are absolutely, this is a civil strife period.
Charlie Kirk was just assassinated.
So we are in civil strife.
The security stuff that I'm having to deal with is nuts.
And I don't see, I don't see any meaningful path towards going back.
john reid
Except tough leaders who start enforcing law.
That's the only thing that's going to happen.
tim pool
We're not going back.
You don't even have that one to do.
Already when Trump said anti-fuss terrorists, what were their response?
They said Trump's making it illegal to fight fascism and they're mobilizing.
phil labonte
If you look at the response from the left, if you try to be a law and order president, say, we're going to do these things because they're breaking the law, et cetera.
The response is, he's a fascist.
He's a Nazi.
We have to stop this because next thing you know, they're going to have train cars and there's going to be camps and blah, blah, blah.
They were calling Alexander Alcatraz a camp, you know, because, oh, look.
john reid
But it's what the immigration thing is working, though.
The self-deportation is working.
phil labonte
I'm not saying you're wrong.
What I'm saying is the left is going to respond in a hyperbolic way.
unidentified
They did.
tim pool
They killed Charlie Kirk.
phil labonte
Yeah, exactly.
So the more.
john reid
That's certainly true.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And they're calling for more death.
This wasn't a sobering moment for leftists and liberals.
It was a green light.
And that's what I was saying.
So periodically, while we do these shows, if those don't know, I'm constantly going through Twitter looking for breaking news.
That's why I'm finding the breaking new stuff.
And I'm seeing posts from liberals that I know that are justifying, even right now, Charlie Kirk's murder.
How am I supposed to talk to these people?
john reid
Yeah.
Well, that's true.
tim pool
They're posting videos saying MAGA is a cult.
Don't trust them.
unidentified
They're all wrong.
tim pool
And I'm like, it is crazy that people like Destiny.
He's lying discernibly and manipulatively.
A politics girl made a video where she said he came from a conservative background.
That was an intentional manipulation because she knows we already knew that, but that he was living with a trans lover.
That's the place reported.
That he said that he couldn't negotiate with Charlie Kirk's hate.
And so, while I certainly don't blindly trust that those messages are 100% true, it looks like someone fabricated something.
The point is, all available evidence indicates this person is left aligned.
Why would politics girl intentionally lie?
Why would you say the engravings were just markings from a manufacturer?
She knows she's lying.
There's no way.
No way.
And then I have to deal with liberals that I've known for decades believing that and telling me I'm in the cult and I deserve to die.
Or that they say, well, look, the people that are saying you should die are just angry.
And I'm like, shut your mouth.
There is no going back.
When there are people that I've known for 20 years posting videos saying Charlie deserved it, I don't know where we go from there.
These are people that I played Tony Hawk's pro stator 2 with over Christmas.
And they are posting that my friend should have died or the crazy ones that Trump killed him on purpose to justify an expansion of a fascist state.
There's no reasoning with a lunatic who's gone off the deep end.
And I am not talking about leftists.
I am talking about a run-of-the-mill default lib in Chicago who doesn't know up from down in the political world.
And if you said what a Supreme Court justice means, they'd be like, when we win the ruling, that's the level of politics I'm talking about.
And they're saying Charlie Kirk deserved it.
How am I supposed to talk to people like that?
I don't see how we're going back.
phil labonte
That's the point.
Like the fact that you can't talk to people, like they say, well, you know, you want to bring the temperature down.
And fine, that sounds great, right?
But how do you bring the temperature down when the other side doesn't want to talk about it, doesn't want to listen to your opinion?
And when you do say your opinion, someone like Charlie Kirk, who was incredibly moderate, he was a normie Republican with very boring, normal religious views, stuff that's not in any way extreme, and they call you all these horrible names.
They make up lies about what you say.
They take your statements out of context.
You can't reach a place where conversation is possible.
And again, this guy, this normy conservative guy, was murdered because they thought that he was too extreme.
So how do you get people to come to the table when they're specifically refusing to have any kind of dialogue?
tim pool
When default libs are saying, yeah, well, he was a racist, and they're standing in the street saying he was a racist to justify it.
When Jimmy Kimmel is going on ABC and saying it was MAGA that did it, and Trump, look how he mourns and mocks it.
And then Jimmy Kimmel says, because this is all over X right now, that he was going to blame MAGA and double down on this.
I'm just like.
john reid
The only reason to have hope, the only reason is that there have been some consequences for that bad behavior this time.
Some people have lost their jobs.
Some people have said, you know what, this crosses the line.
Some people, I mean, I'm surprised.
Is that honestly, I'm surprised that there's been that level of consequence.
tim pool
But what does that mean to somebody who's living under the fear of death?
john reid
I mean, to you or to me as a candidate?
tim pool
To all of us.
john reid
I mean, that's not.
tim pool
Any old lady who wants to go to a Trump rally.
john reid
Oh, yeah.
But we've known, this has been the problem.
We didn't discipline.
We didn't discipline these people who harassed the people who were standing in line to go to the Trump rally back in 2016.
tim pool
But what?
Let me ask you a question.
I hear what you're saying.
If a dog takes a dump on your floor and then you come back later and the dog runs up to you all happy and then you grab it by the collar and you yell at it, will that teach the dog not to poop on the floor?
john reid
You go put their face.
Exactly.
tim pool
The dog has to know why you're yelling at it.
What happens if the dog doesn't understand?
The dog will do it again, right?
john reid
If he doesn't understand, that's why you got to make it clear.
And so that's what we have failed to do for a day.
tim pool
We can't because we are not talking about the simplicity of animals.
We are talking about liberals.
When you say, hey, you can't advocate death, they go, look, I told you this would happen.
This proves it.
Trump's a fascist.
It's my free speech.
And Politics Girl and Kyle Kalinske and Hassan and Destiny are lying.
So it's not just that you're taking the dog and saying, look what you did, bad dog.
It is more complex than that, where someone else is simultaneously saying, I warned you that would happen.
It wasn't actually that you made the mess.
It's that I told you he was going to hit you because he hates you.
john reid
This is why you got to be engaged.
And you are, and I am, and other people are, to try to counter that false narrative.
And you can't.
I mean, you just don't think there's any turning back.
mary morgan
I think they need to think they need to feel pain and the pain that will be inflicted on them is social ostracization, penalizing them with freedom of association.
We're already seeing that.
It's actually a mercy that we're giving to them that we're not meeting their cruelty with more cruelty.
And those are matters within our own hands that we don't have to wait for leaders to show up.
john reid
And I would just say enforce the law.
That's what I would say.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And that's not going to stop default libs from posting on Instagram that Charlie deserved it and you should die.
That's not going to stop it.
So what you are saying is correct, Mary.
There's a problem there.
The far left will far left.
They're not going to change.
They are cognizant of what they are doing.
They are intentionally lying.
So this idea of punishing them or ostracizing them won't change the fact.
You can try and censor them.
They're going to double down because they have a political mission.
And that political mission won't stop with being silenced.
It's true for people on the right.
You silence Alex Jones.
He's not going away.
He's something he believes in.
The issue is you got to get default libs to stop posting that Charlie was a racist and deserved it.
But they were allowed to.
They were allowed to express an opinion, even if it's wrong.
The actual solution would be, to some degree, for normies to be told you can't post misinformation, right?
Well, we saw what happened with the Trump administration.
They tried that against conservatives, and it didn't work.
They tried it every way up from down.
They even banned Parlor off the app stores for fake reasons to make sure conservatives could not organize and none of it ever worked.
So I do not believe doing the same thing to the left is going to change anything they do.
If you go to a default lib and they say something like Charlie was racist, so you ban them for misinformation, they'll go to Blue Sky.
They'll go to Mastodon.
They will show up in person to the activist event and say, you were right.
They're fascist.
They banned me for my opinion.
That's why I do not, I look at it like this.
And everything I do in business and everything that I do with the projects I work on is a mathematical equation.
And so one example is, let's just take a look at the size of Timcast, the scale of the business, the work that I do.
I work extremely hard and I calculate and I plan ahead.
And so I can dodge the manipulative enforcement.
I can navigate how they try to silence and censor, but I can also do the math to hire people, grow the business, calculate in such a way, where do we got to put money to make this business grow and succeed?
And the ancillary projects.
How can we make the inverted world bigger, pop culture crisis, and the boonies?
And the boonies has now seen tremendous growth with the events we're doing.
I'm particularly good, nowhere near the best.
I'm actually near the bottom.
There's a list of people who are pretty good at running a business.
I'm near the bottom, but still pretty good.
And when I look at everything that's going on in the world and I look to make predictions and I say, what am I predicting?
What is the mathematical equation and where does it end up?
There's a reason why I'm not in the city anymore.
And isn't it the correct decision based on where we are today that I left the city and came out to the middle of nowhere?
Considering the fact that we have security gates, armed guards, and other security issues that I'm not going to bring up, certainly that calculation was a correct one.
Me doing this show from the city as I was before is a huge mistake.
And that's just one calculation that I've made in how do I effectively do this based on what we're going to see happening.
My view of this right now is I have laid out as many variables as I can, and I do not see a mathematical equation that de-radicalizes the left.
mary morgan
Well, you're correct that the way we're penalizing them now by calling their jobs, whatever, social ostracization, that doesn't change the matter.
of what's in their heart and what's in their conscience because it didn't work on the right when the right was being silenced and censored and oppressed.
It actually, if anything, strengthened their beliefs and radicalized them further to the right.
tim pool
So we can't, getting the left fired and all the stuff that's happening with Charlie Kirk may feel really good because we're in a culture war, but it's entrenching the left and it's being used as cannon fodder by the far left and Antifa to rally and recruit.
And it's going to actually turn more default libs.
So what I'm seeing among the liberal cohort of the thousands of people I have on Facebook, the average person has no idea about Tucker or Roseanne or any of these things because they don't follow conservative circles.
The only information they get is what's filtered to them through the lying liberal pundits.
Now that Jimmy Kimmel's been fired, what are they being told?
The FCC under Trump forced ABC to fire Jimmy Kimmel for criticizing him, and they believe it.
So when people start losing their jobs, they go, oh my God, they were right.
Trump's a fascist.
And when you try to go to them and say, can I show you the news articles that debunk all of this and break it down for you?
They go, they warned me you try and lie.
They told me the fascists would come and try and lie to me.
That proves it.
And I've personally experienced this.
I was in San Bernardino, and there were Trump supporters on one corner of the street and Antifa leftists on the other side of the street.
And I was, this was back, this is 2016, I think, 2015, maybe.
I think it was 16.
I crossed the street to the Antifa side, and there's people standing around wearing black.
And I said, hey, how's it going, guys?
Do you mind if I talk to some guy, like some of you, about what you're protesting?
And then some guy goes, oh, yeah, we're here.
Immediately, one of the facilitators goes, Mike, check.
And they all, in unison, yell, Mike, check.
And then the person goes, they do mic check like five times.
Mike, check, Mike, check, Mike, check.
And then all of a sudden you're not talking anymore.
And they go, do not.
And then everyone repeats, do not talk to, talk to reporters.
Reporters.
unidentified
They will, they will lie to you.
tim pool
Lie to you to trick you.
To trick you.
And then I'm sitting there like, did anybody want to talk?
And they're like, get out of here, man.
And I was like, what the just happened?
Every, you've seen it.
elad eliahu
Totally.
Many times.
It's a death colour.
tim pool
So when we try to talk to these people, now don't get me wrong.
I know there are people watching the show and have watched it who said, you know, I watched your videos and I got woken up to what was going on.
I don't think that it's fruitless, but I seriously feel like it's probably 2% to 4% of the country.
And so it's worth doing and we'll keep doing it.
And I appreciate it.
john reid
2-4% of the country that's influenced by you.
tim pool
That's capable of being made aware of the lies.
john reid
Do you think more than 50% of the country is lost in this mess?
tim pool
Yes.
And I think the poll, how many people voted for Kamala Harris?
john reid
Yeah, I know.
Voting may be different.
tim pool
But after everything we saw, after everything we saw, by all means, you can argue that Kamala got 10 million extra votes, whatever, don't care.
Call it 60 million votes.
After COVID lockdowns, after Fauci's lies, after you got to wear two masks now, two masks?
People believed all this, and they still voted for her.
And they still to this day maintain those positions.
That is the hyper-polarization of the country.
They're in two different distinct worlds.
You know what?
You guys talk for a second.
I'm going to try and find a video.
mary morgan
Well, I also wanted to mention that there are people on the left who still have a conscience and humanity left, and they're being absolutely dragged right now by their own side, including the man who was in the middle of dialogue with Charlie when he was shot.
He made a TikTok after the fact talking about the fact that ironically he was trying to argue with Charlie about how the left is nonviolent.
And he unequivocally, of course, condemned the murder.
And he didn't even qualify his statement or anything.
And they have just absolutely dragged him over the coals for saying that.
And then also another girl who debated Charlie in a Jubilee video, it was like the biggest clip that got farmed off of that.
elad eliahu
They're all just cloud chasing.
unidentified
Yeah.
mary morgan
She made a TikTok as well condemning the murder and she didn't qualify her statement or excuse it or downplay it or celebrate it, certainly.
And they're like, oh, she's not down with the cause.
You know, we can't trust her.
She's not really down with the revolution.
So that's what's happening right now.
unidentified
That's the question on the left.
tim pool
Which is the majority.
unidentified
So remarkable.
tim pool
This was so easy to find.
Here's the video watch.
The audio's pretty bad on this one.
Why is the audio so bad on this one?
Let me try and find a better one.
You guys keep talking.
This video, it's thousands of people in a park holding up their hands chanting, chanting about how racist they are.
Conservatives don't do this.
mary morgan
It's a sea of white skin.
tim pool
Yeah.
john reid
Let me see if I can find better audio because I just got to hope that that's not the crazies are not the majority.
You get manipulated by the minority, no question.
phil labonte
But it doesn't matter if it's the majority or not.
All that matters is there's enough, like three or four percent of the population can destroy a country.
john reid
That is certainly true.
phil labonte
So it doesn't matter if there's a majority.
It just depends on how many are actually motivated to take action.
I mean, it wasn't most of America in the streets during 2020, but there was enough where there was billions of dollars of damage.
And for the vast majority of the people that were in the streets, they weren't even engaging in the violent actions.
There was maybe 10% that were.
john reid
That's why I'm saying you got to have leaders who will say, I doesn't matter whether I agree with you or not.
You are not going to get away.
phil labonte
You got to do this.
john reid
You're not going to allow this to happen.
phil labonte
To your point, you got to have way more prisons because you need to put the people that actually will act into jail.
So you have to take them off the streets.
You can't have people that will engage in revolutionary activities like that.
You have to take them out of the puppy, out of the public.
You have to take them off the streets.
They can't be free because they're literally trying to destroy your society.
john reid
We did that for 10 years.
If we were tough for 10 years under the current law, don't have to change it.
Enforce the current law harshly, I think you would see a cultural change.
Maybe a little late, but I think we could still save this.
phil labonte
I'd love to agree with you, but the problem is Karen.
The problem is awful.
Affluent, white, upper class, liberal women, they will see people getting arrested and then they will vote for whatever they have to vote for to end it.
And then those people will be put back on the streets.
You have DAs and you have judges that won't put people in jail right now.
So I agree with you, but your prescription requires not just a president or governors or what have you.
You need an entire revamping of the justice system, and you have to get rid of people that think that restorative justice is a good idea.
john reid
Oh, no question.
phil labonte
All of that stuff.
john reid
But that's why I'm hopeful that if Trump, let's just take DC, for example.
I had a place in D.C. for 12 years.
I watched the bars come off the apartments when things were getting better.
And then I watched the bars go back on because people started to get attacked again.
And I'm hoping that the average person, especially these affluent people who bought expensive condos and thought it was so much fun to walk around drunk at 2 o'clock in the morning in D.C. and now can't do that, are going to be glad.
You're like, I hate Trump.
But thank God he's kind of cracked down on the bad guys who were trying to rob me and carjack me and break into my house.
And then, am I stupid for thinking maybe they'll change their vote?
phil labonte
I mean, like, I would, I, I agree with you, but the task at this point has become so monumental.
And there are people that are not plugged in politically.
They're not aware.
They don't, they don't deal with this stuff on a day-to-day basis.
And I'm skeptical as to if we can actually get the kind of changes in not just in the leadership, but in the justice system, in DAs and in judges that will actually solve the problem.
elad eliahu
So a little off topic, but Mary, I'm just dying to know because we were kind of talking about it earlier when we were talking about Mr. Reed.
mary morgan
Not this.
elad eliahu
Could you vote for a gay candidate?
And like, why or why not?
mary morgan
Well, look, you don't have to worry about me.
I don't live in Virginia, so you don't need my vote.
But I did say that I would be uncomfortable voting for a gay candidate.
Yes, I said that, and I stand by that.
elad eliahu
And why do you feel that way?
mary morgan
You know, you asked me what my reasoning was, and I told you, quite bluntly, I don't know if I have a very sophisticated, reasoned explanation for it.
john reid
It's faith-based for you.
mary morgan
Well, yes.
It's also sort of an instinctual like disgust factor.
elad eliahu
Jesus Christ.
She does represent it.
mary morgan
And then you blaspheme.
elad eliahu
I was saying Jesus, Jesus Christ, like a good thing.
mary morgan
Oh, okay.
Look, it's not relevant to what we're discussing right now.
I think that we should stay on topic.
And what I wanted to point out before you brought that up was that to what Phil was saying, it's actually not as slim of a minority as 3 or 4% that we're talking about.
And I think that's what's been clarified for a lot of people through their own day-to-day interactions with their family members, with their friends, with their coworkers and acquaintances, rather than a fringe element that you only find online or at protests.
They're realizing that their flesh and blood family members or their closest friends, people they've known for decades in some cases, are part of that.
Maybe it's not even a minority.
Maybe it's not.
I know you're coming at it from a more hopeful perspective, that the majority is normal people who don't want this, but I'm not so sure.
john reid
I'm not sure either, but I have some hope that there have been people who have stood up after Charlie Kirk is assassinated for sitting in a chair and talking to people and have said, oh my God, that crosses the line.
Thank goodness there's still people who think that crosses the line.
Seems so obvious to me.
I mean, clearly there are some people who are making excuses.
The other thing that I think is good if anything good comes out of this is that Charlie Kirk created a body of work which is available online.
And I get the impression.
I mean, you know, everybody's Facebook feed or TikTok feed is different, but I get the impression a lot of people are seeking that out to understand who he was and what he talked about.
Was it crazy?
He was it extreme.
And I've got to believe that the average person, even if they're a big lib or consider themselves to be a leftist, seeing an assassination and then looking at why he was assassinated hypothetically will sober some people up.
Like, this is wrong.
This is just not right, I think.
mary morgan
But even that gruesome footage of the assassination doesn't really have the impact that it ought to because we see gruesome events on social media nearly constantly.
That's true.
john reid
30 or 40 years ago, this would have been mind-blowing, shocking, and now it's not.
unidentified
So that's another thing.
mary morgan
It's not just young people who are chronically online that are responding in these extreme ways.
I've been thinking more about the boomers who are responding to this and celebrating, ridiculing, downplaying, excusing.
I think really the mask that default libs are wearing right now to cater to leftists is going at the gun control angle with this.
A lot of boomers do not understand the impact that this event has had and is going to have going forward because they grew up in a high trust society.
And I saw Charlie Sheen comparing this to our generation's JFK moment.
And it's not that at all because as you pointed out earlier, in the country after JFK's assassination, for better or for worse, we had centralized mass media.
People were unified in recognizing the gravity of that event and mourning the loss of that leader.
And there is no comparison today with decentralized media and social media.
john reid
It's more than I thought it would be.
mary morgan
And the spiritual rot that has taken place since then.
tim pool
I apologize for missing super chats.
I really do.
This took me a really long time to find because it's 237 weeks ago on my Instagram.
But I'll try playing it for you now.
unidentified
About racism, anti-blackness, or violence.
Racism can't destroy us.
I will use my voice in the most uplifting way possible.
I believe.
tim pool
It's a cult.
Here's thousands of people chanting a religious ideology back to their proselytizer.
There is no way in any meaningful course of action, these people will be convinced they're in a cult.
That's cults.
And the cult is the size of their social media.
So when I talk about the default libs and I go to my friend and I show them this video and say, this is a cult, they're going to go, what are you talking about?
I do that.
What's wrong with it?
And you're going to be like, holy crap.
And then when you say, let me show you a news article that proves what you think is not correct, they'll say, they told me you'd say that.
In order to break someone out of a cult, you remove them physically from the cult.
That's the first thing you do.
So if someone's in, you have to remove them from it.
You can't remove people from a digital cult.
They believe insane fake things.
They sit in parks with their hands up chanting.
I got to be honest.
Prayer, I understand.
Churches, depending on your religion and Christian religion, your prayers are to something beyond.
These people are praying to other people.
That's a cult.
So I'll try and grab some of your chance in chats and rants.
Smash the like button.
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I apologize.
I just thought it was extremely important to show that video because I'm hoping that there are some people who are going to see how psychotic this cult is and go, whoa, that is a cult.
And that's why that video was so important.
I had to dig through my Instagram and it loads like nine videos at a time.
I had to go back 237 weeks to get there.
So, anyway, I'll just try and grab two or three because we do need to go to the uncensored portion.
All right, let's see.
Hans 1PK says, I posted in Discord live stream of Jimmy Protest Outside Theater.
They are recycling signs and protesters.
Interesting.
Same old man says, Do you have any idea why Tucker is going off the deep end with the whole blaming Israel and the Jews like Candace is doing?
Why using Charlie Kirk?
I don't like how they're using Kirk like that.
I will just say it is very, very weird in that Candace and Tucker seem to have inverted their political views in a short amount of time.
That's it.
Not all of their views, but like within the span of a couple years, their political views are very different.
Tucker is now, I think, defending Jimmy Kimmel.
phil labonte
Is he really?
tim pool
Oh, well, for something about free speech.
I didn't actually see it.
So this is why I'm always careful to criticize.
elad eliahu
You know, he was a worse neocon than me at one point, Tucker Carlson.
tim pool
Yeah.
All right, we'll just grab one here.
phil labonte
Are you admitting that being a neocon is bad?
elad eliahu
Well, I'm saying it is in a tongue-in-cheek way.
But yeah, he was all in on the Iraq war, I believe.
tim pool
Yep.
David Bricken says, This is for everyone.
I hope Sunday turns into a global event of love and compassion.
I hope Sunday turns into one of the biggest memorials in the world.
Show these people that they've awoken a Charlie Kirk in all of us.
Do it for Charlie.
Right on.
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john reid
Yeah, JohnReid for Virginia.com is my website to track this campaign that starts tomorrow and ends on November 4th in Virginia.
elad eliahu
Awesome.
We'll be on the lookout for that election.
Early voting starts tomorrow.
Thanks for putting up with my question asking for a bit.
I don't think it was too bad.
john reid
It has been great.
elad eliahu
Thanks for tuning in, everybody.
I am Aladdaliyahu, the White House correspondent here.
I won't be here early next week because it will be the Jewish New Year, Russia Shana.
So shout out to Vahu, those who celebrate, and don't miss me too much out there.
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Thanks for hanging out.
Someone commented that Shuan had posted a video of a woman.
I don't know if this is a good idea.
mary morgan
I have been called.
tim pool
No.
Someone said Shoe On Head posted a video of a young woman who realized everyone around her is a genocidal maniac.
phil labonte
That's Shoe on Head.
She's the one that remains.
tim pool
No, she said Shoe On Head posted a video of a young woman who, a Bernie girl.
phil labonte
Okay.
Or I guess it still sounds like Shu.
tim pool
It does.
I don't know.
I'll play this video from her.
phil labonte
We'll sit here.
She just posted it like six hours.
@shoe0nhead
I'm not a fan of this reactionary for over the last few years.
Would you like to see?
I have been making this list since 2023.
Let's go.
Let's just read this together real quick.
Mocking/slash criticizing pop feminism.
Believing adults can do whatever they want.
Being pro-free speech.
Being liberal.
Talking to people I disagree with.
Being friends with people I disagree with.
Following people on Twitter I disagree with.
Supporting Bernie Sanders.
That one came from the right.
Being registered independent.
Criticizing Joe Biden.
Criticizing the Democratic Party.
Not being attracted to feminine men.
Not hating men in general.
Criticizing Canada's MAID program.
Not taking the COVID vaccine.
Criticizing the FBI.
Criticizing the CIA.
Believing the CIA killed JFK.
Using an American flag backdrop for my videos.
Saying elites, saying working class, saying base, making a joke about Joe Biden eating ice cream, making a joke about Pete Budich being born in a test tube.
Making jokes in general.
Being cis, being white, being a woman, being a cis white woman, telling someone to take a shower, not being anti-gun, not being fat, being monogamous, liking Huey Long, celebrating the 4th of July, supporting Assange, criticizing the movie Cuties,
praising the movie Sound of Freedom, being against pedophilia, being against the destigmatization of pedophilia, being against children watching porn, being critical of Kinket Pride, being against children performing at drag shows, not being racist, I swear to God.
Being a class reductionist, saying biological sex, mocking people for debating the ethics of wanting to date someone who has a good relationship with their parents.
tim pool
I think she makes the point that literally anything you do, the left will attack.
There's only one thing I think that matters is if you're pro-trans, you're left.
If you're not pro-trans, you're right.
And the example is: if you are on the left and you say something like, I don't know if I agree with universal healthcare, they'll say, well, you know, blah, blah, blah.
But if you say, I don't agree with trans, they'll be like, you're far right.
unidentified
And they'll shoot you and kill you.
tim pool
So I don't see any meaningful equation as to how you convince these default libs who are in a cult how not to be.
And yeah, I'll put it like this.
I was a nation's best fundraiser for some of the biggest nonprofits in the country, including Greenpeace and the ACLU and Children International.
Worked for the PERG groups, big liberal organizations that did postcarding and signed people up and got money for them for Democrat causes.
And I was supposed to meet strangers and in the span of one minute, convince them to hand their credit card to a complete stranger, me, and then pay monthly to support Democrat causes.
And I was the best in the nation.
I was one of the best.
My buddy Marco is a hero.
Better than me at it.
We would both go out.
Quota was two people per day, sign up two people.
We'd do like eight in 20 minutes.
And then we'd be like, let's go fuck off.
And so because it was, you'd go out into the street, they expected you to be standing there all day desperately waving to people, trying to get them to convince them.
And we'd get it done in about a half an hour.
We'd get, you know, maybe eight and then be like, eh, fuck it.
And then we'd go chill on top of the Marina City Towers and just fuck off for a couple hours until we're supposed to come back.
Some days we'd hit quota in 10 minutes and be like, let's go play video games.
Take the train home, go play video games, take the train back and be like, only got two today, just like everybody else.
I can't convince these people.
I could fucking sell ice to an Eskimo.
I could sell sand to a Saudi, and I could not fucking convince these default libs that they're in a cult.
Now, obviously, there are a lot of people who watch the show who I have convinced.
Don't get me wrong.
I am saying there exists a court of people, some of them who I've known for a very long time.
I've invited some of these people here, and we've had these conversations.
Their brains are rocks.
And I don't mean, I'm not saying they're retarded in a sense.
I'm saying they're unchangeable.
Literally bringing them here, showing them the facts, being like, actually, that wasn't gold you saw.
It was silver.
Here it is.
It's right in front of you.
unidentified
And they'll go, that's gold.
tim pool
You're lying.
And I'm just like, what is happening?
So I don't know how the fuck.
I honestly don't think it's navigable.
I think what is going to happen is one side is going to massacre the other.
I don't know when or how.
In the 1820s, there was talk of civil war.
Didn't happen until 1861, but you did have Bleeding Kansas for seven years before the Civil War, which is brutal.
John Brown just going around fucking shooting people in the face, and that was commonplace.
And then you got a civil war.
So I don't know what happens, but I can say that it's all accelerated because of social media and people are entrenched because of social media.
Charlie Kirk was just murdered and the left is calling for more.
They're either lying to defend it, saying he deserved it, or outright saying, let's get more heads on pikes.
So I don't see any mathematical equation to this stopping.
If I did, I'd be doing it, but I don't.
elad eliahu
Go ahead.
It's a climate of political violence.
We're seeing the trend.
Charlie Kirk, unfortunately, is a symptom of that growing trend.
And I suspect we're going to see a lot more of this before we see less of it.
If they were able to get shots on Target on the president, I don't know why that makes any of us special.
We're all reachable if the president was reachable.
phil labonte
It's worth noting they were able to get shots on target when he was not the president.
And that distinction does matter.
elad eliahu
Sure.
He still had Secret Service protection.
phil labonte
He had like the B team.
elad eliahu
Yeah, well, I don't even have the fucking B team.
That's the fucking issue.
And this guy doesn't have anybody.
This guy has some people who volunteered to be here.
john reid
You are making me feel bad about running.
elad eliahu
I thought that was the third time I mentioned that.
Yeah, you might as well.
No, but you're lieutenant governor, not relevant enough.
If you really ran for office that mattered, you know.
john reid
If I ran for governor, it'd be over.
elad eliahu
I mean, you do have a perverse incentive for.
john reid
But it is one reason.
I watched what happened.
I swear to God.
2020 and 2021 is what made me say, is anybody going to step up and stop this?
And I looked around Virginia and I saw some people who kind of did.
And Glenn Young got elected and I'm glad he got elected and he did some things to stop.
I'm like, somebody's got to get up and call this stuff out with no ambiguity.
This is right.
This is wrong.
I'm not going to apologize to you if it hurts your feelings.
I'm not going to try to make you feel good.
I'm going to tell you we're going to put you in jail and put you in prison if you behave like this.
That is how a leader should behave if people's lives are being ruined and people's lives are being snuffed out.
That's why I'm doing this because I can't tolerate it anymore.
tim pool
So I think the equation is the left escalates violence, the right can give in and just say, please leave me alone, in which you get communism or some sort of...
john reid
But that's what the right's been doing.
tim pool
Indeed.
And so when people say Trump should go full bore, just start fucking arresting people, the left response is obvious.
And they literally did.
The moment we learned that Trump designated Antifa or publicly, he didn't formally do it.
He publicly declared them to be terrorists.
I said, they're immediately going to go online and say, Trump has made it illegal to oppose fascism.
We told you this would happen.
What did we see?
All of the prominent liberal personalities one by one, like fucking retard ducks going, rock, rack, rock, exactly as predicted.
They're not smart enough to be random.
john reid
But do you think 50% of the population is going to follow that craziness?
tim pool
No.
My prediction yesterday was that default libs out of fear will largely move towards the right.
But so I'll put it like this.
Default libs are uninitiated.
They have no idea what the fuck is going on.
They believe what Jimmy Kimmel Topson believe.
Right now, they're entrenched.
They're in a cult.
A good portion of them, just because they're like, I don't know, I don't care.
I want to watch football, are going to just side with Trump because Trump's the power structure.
Of those that I would consider to be middle-lane liberals, that is, they're politically active, like the Krasensteins are a good example.
The people who follow the Krasensteins, they're not far left, but they're very pro-Democrat.
They watch TV.
They're entrenched.
They pay attention.
These people are going to align themselves with the far left because there's money to be made.
They have an audience there.
And they're not going to let Trump win.
In their heart, they're like, Trump is bad.
Trump is wrong.
I'm going to oppose them.
The far left will say, we got guns, join us.
They'll say, okay.
I think that what's likely going to happen, the probability as of now dictates a right-wing military dictatorship of some sort escalating in the next 20 to 30 years.
And the probability of this, I will say this, very, very, very, very, very low.
So as you're trying to predict 20 years out, the probability falls into single digits or less than that.
I'm just saying what we have before us as of today indicates a future in which you'll get a right-wing dictatorship of some sort.
And that's somewhat hyperbolic.
You will get authoritative right-wing control.
So suppression of far-leftist bullshit, security checks.
It'll be pretty serious.
ID checks on the internet, things like that.
It won't be the apocalypse.
It won't be concentration camps.
It won't be people being flayed alive or anything like that.
But it'll be a security state.
The left is going to engage in insurgent violence, which emboldens the right to be able to do this.
And regular people are going to let it happen.
I'm going to say something that I know a lot of people probably don't want me to say.
I am actually going to wait 20 seconds.
And everybody subscribe to Rumble Premium if you want to keep watching, because I actually don't want to say some of this stuff publicly, but I will.
So at the bare minimum, I'm going to try to mitigate this.
And I apologize for people who are going to be upset that I'm doing it, but it's what I'm doing.
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