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Sept. 18, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Jimmy Kimmel FIRED, ABC Pulls Show Over Charlie Kirk Assassination Comments | Timcast IRL
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brett dasovic
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phil labonte
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tate brown
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tim pool
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will tanner
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frank turek
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serge du preez
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brian stelter
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tim pool
ABC has indefinitely polled Jimmy Kimmel live over comments he made about Charlie Kirk's assassination when he painted the shooter as a MAGA conservative.
And everybody recoiled.
This was not correct.
I mean, the FBI's come out, local law enforcements come out, the parents gave statements, they've released messages.
This dude was highly motivated by leftist ideology and dating a trans person.
And Jimmy Kimmel, like many of these other liberal liberal podcasters, pushed this lie that the shooter was somehow some Trump supporting conservative.
Now there's a chain of events that occurred.
First, the FCC chair appears on Benny Johnson's show, basically saying, you can't do this.
Then we heard that Nextstar, which is basically a local affiliate network, was going to pull the Kimmel show over these comments, and finally Disney stepped in and said, enough.
That's where we're at so far.
CNN, they are losing their minds.
And I gotta be honest, it's hilarious.
And I'm gonna explain for you exactly why it's hilarious, using the left's own words and their own ideology, which they cannot outclaim they don't agree with.
When they canceled and got people when they got people fired from their jobs, because some people said naughty words, and now they're all shocked that the ideology they espoused has come back for them.
Now, I'll admit I'm a free speech guy.
I'm not going to advocate that people lose their jobs over naughty comments.
However, I'm not going to defend people who are celebrating the death of a good man, a family man who was murdered in front of his own children.
Sorry, go find someone else to defend you.
If you don't believe in free speech and you never did, I'm done playing that game with you.
Now, if you're a leftist and liberal and you've consistently defended free speech, even fighting with the liberals, they wouldn't call you a leftist anyway, would they?
So when they come to me and say, I thought you were for free speech, I am.
But you're not, so I'm gonna hold you to the standard that you asked for.
Congratulations.
This is the world you've made.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a lot to break down with this because holy crap, plus there is a lot of other news.
The reaction from CNN is hilarious.
We also have three officers shot and killed in York County PA.
It's getting crazy out there.
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We've got a big show for you tonight, lots of news, and uh some uh updates and information on the Charlie Kirk assassination.
Some of what we're hearing, it's it's you know, on the ground reporting and stories from individuals who are directly imp impacted.
And so what I want to stress is yeah, we're gonna gloat over uh Jimmy Kimmel, and then I'm gonna show you a statement from a man who is there, and you're gonna understand exactly why we are outraged, why we're anger uh angered, and why the left, this is what they asked for all those years ago, now coming to bite them in a arse.
And it's what they asked for.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more we got.
Will Tanner.
will tanner
Hey Tim, thanks for having me on.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
will tanner
Yeah, so I uh started a company with a few business partners called the American Tribune when I was in law school.
And now I've uh turned that into what people probably know me for.
I'm the Rhodesia guy on Twitter, uh, or at least that's what a lot of people know me as.
Um, but I uh primarily uh talk about the South Africanization of America and how these twin trends of race communism and anarcho-tyranny are really destroying what our ancestors built and how Western civilization as we know it is crumbling uh because of these trends and because of the destruction wrought by them.
And so using lessons from history, primarily Rhodesia, South Africa, the Belgian Congo, which I write about in my substack.
That's what people know me for, and it's what I'm trying to teach about so that we can avoid the same fate for ourselves.
tim pool
Interesting.
That'd be fun to talk about all that.
We got uh producer Tate.
tate brown
What's going on, guys?
Tate Brown here holding it down.
Happy to be here.
brett dasovic
Guys, it's Brett.
It's been a while.
It's been like three weeks.
I'm normally doing pop culture crisis Monday through Friday, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, but tonight, let's talk politics.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil LeBonte.
I'm the lead singer of the Heavy Metal Band, All The Remains, when Anti-Communism Counter-Revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
From Variety.com, ABC polls Jimmy Kimmel live indefinitely after hosts Charlie Kirk comments.
Disney said it would take Jimmy Kimmel's popular late night show off its schedule indefinitely after one of the biggest owners of its TV of TV stations in the U.S. Next Star Media said it intended to preempt airings of the program following remarks the host made about the killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.
Nextar said Wednesday that its owned and partner television stations affiliated with ABC television network will preempt Jimmy Kimmel live for the foreseeable future, beginning with tonight's show.
The company said it strongly objects to recent comments made by Mr. Kimmel concerning the killing of Charlie Kirk and will replace the show with other programming and its ABC affiliated markets.
In his monologue Monday night, Kimmel said that the MAGA gang was trying to score political points off Kirk's murder.
Now we know this.
I'm I'm gonna play the uh the clip for you, which um we've got here.
Daily Wire says this is why his show got pulled.
Just take a listen.
jimmy kimmel
We had some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.
And in between the finger pointing, there was uh grieving on Friday, the White House flew the flags at half staff, which got some criticism, but on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this.
frank turek
How are you holding up over the last day and a half, sir?
unidentified
I think very good.
And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks.
They just started construction of the new borough for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years, and it's gonna be a beauty.
Yes.
jimmy kimmel
He's at the fourth stage of grief, construction.
unidentified
Demolition, construction.
jimmy kimmel
This is not how an adult grieves the murder of someone he called a friend.
This is how a four-year-old mourns a goldfish, okay.
tim pool
That was insane for a variety of reasons.
One, trying to imply that the shooter was a Trump supporter, and then mocking Donald Trump.
Now I'm gonna be asked, I don't think Trump actually heard what the guy said.
I it's it's loud, there's a helicopter, and the guy says, How are you holding up?
And Trump's just like gives a generic response.
Yeah, good, look what they're doing.
I don't know.
Sound like he didn't hear what he had to say because Trump's made many statements about this.
Now, here's where it begins.
Nextar Media Group issued this press release earlier today.
Next star ABC affiliates to preempt Jimmy Kimmel live indefinitely beginning tonight.
They said, Mr. Kimmel's comments about the death of Mr. Kirk are offensive and insensitive at a critical time in our national political discourse.
And we do not believe they reflect the spectrum of opinions, views, or values of the local communities in which we are located, said Andrew Alford, president of Nextstar's broadcasting division.
Continuing to give Mr. Kimmel a broadcast platform in the communities we serve as simply not in the public interest at the current time.
And we have made the difficult decision to preempt his show in an effort to let cooler heads prevail as we move toward the resumption of respectful, respectful, constructive dialogue.
Now, this also followed statements from the FCC chair on Benny Johnson's show, saying, you know, that effectively, you know, you can't do things like this, right?
We get some new lows of the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to, of course, that's Kimmel's statement.
And uh, this was um Brendan Carr appearing on Benny's show, and they describe it as issuing threats against ABC and Disney.
Now, NBC News has responded by saying that they've ABC polled the show after the FCC threatened them, as if to make it appear as though the Trump administration got Jimmy Kimmel fired.
When actually this was a private business interest that did it.
And I'm gonna give you a couple reasons real quick before we launch into the panel why this is likely the case.
For one, I think Hassan made a great point.
I didn't actually hear him say it, but it was reported in the New York Times that he was concerned about the death of Charlie Kirk because he could be next.
And I think many of these television network execs, seeing the vitriol are also concerned that if violence escalates, these people at the top of these networks are go are there they will be docs, they will be known.
Nobody wants to live that way.
And so if you're running a network and you see Jimmy Kimmel say explicitly, despite the fact law enforcement has already said, here's his motivating factors.
Jimmy Kimmel says, nah, it was Trump.
It was the MAGA guys.
You are fanning the flames of political violence in a very terrifying and dangerous way, and mocking Donald Trump, whose friend just died over that clip, which I assume is probably out of context or Trump didn't hear, is despicable.
And I'm sure the networks, aside from being offended, were more so concerned that Jimmy Kimmel was was driving the temperature hotter and hotter in an extreme way.
And so I think many of them are like, guys, if we don't put a stop to this and say we are not going to tolerate political violence, it'll escalate.
If we do not punish those who are dancing on the grave and demanding more or lying about this, the left will be emboldened and there will be more death and the right will respond.
There has to be a simmering down of temperatures.
And that's why people are getting fired.
And that's why Jimmy Kimmel got fired.
But I'm curious if you guys agree.
And what do you think?
phil labonte
Uh I I think that that's probably about the size of it.
The idea that this is because of pressure from the government, I I think that that's unlikely.
I don't think that Brendan Carr just making a remark is actually enough to make people move.
Because I feel like that there's still a sentiment where if the government says, Oh, we might do this, there's still enough people that would feel like pushing back on the government is worth the you know, it's worth the worth the worth the juice.
Whereas if you're gonna look at losing sponsors and losing, you know, people the higher-ups of the company you work for seeing significant repercussions, that'll get people to move.
That'll get companies to move.
brett dasovic
Yeah, it would be the relationship with Disney and Nextstar that would be the bigger issue here than it would be Disney and the government and for that.
And for the most part, what's sad is like this will end up benefiting Kimmel in the long run because Colbert's ratings spiked after he got canceled, after his show was officially canceled, even though he's still on the air, his contract has to run out.
And the most profitable aspect of his whole show right now is like their YouTube views are very high, and I wouldn't be surprised if they end up moving him away from terrestrial television entirely because this is a dying business model.
The the ratings in general for late night TV are me and Tate were talking about it before the show now are heavily dependent on whether there's sports on television at all these days.
The ratings have been down consistently, and the funny thing is Kimmel is number two in the ratings on late night next to Colbert, who's already been canceled because his ratings are garbage.
So everybody knows that this type of television is a dying model anyways.
Why would you fan the flames in something that's so incendiary right now in a world where you high hire 100 writers to work on these shows, which is why they cost a fortune to make and they lose money on every episode?
Why with a hundred writers could you not find a more palatable way to try to get your point across?
You can't, because your point is disgusting.
tim pool
I I I actually think, you know, as to your point about being second in ratings, we know that Colbert was costing them tens of millions of dollars per year.
I think Kimmel was as well, but they didn't know how to end his contract, or they couldn't end his contract.
brett dasovic
It ends next year in 2026.
tim pool
Indeed.
I imagine they were probably saying we're not going to renew it, but we can't do anything right now.
This pops up, and now they have a morality clause exemption to terminate his contract.
And I'm sure they said, let's pull it.
will tanner
In addition to what you're saying about them not wanting to be associated with this side of things from potential vigilantes, they probably don't want the DOJ-related groups to see them as part of the Antifa Soros network that could be getting rolled up or at least investigated.
Because you know, one thing you've seen on Twitter this week is the media companies, the media cable channels being really lumped in with that whole network of NGOs, nonprofits, law firms.
Um so this could be a way to distance themselves.
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait, Surge, is this is this this fact check true?
serge du preez
Uh so he this is what when I was looking at, it looked like it wasn't exactly like I'd seen the footage before.
Basically, what he did was you took an old footage of Trump being asked a question and he dubbed over the question asking.
As if he had been asked that question.
It's not even the same thing.
And if you watch the footage again, you'll probably see that it seems it is from a year prior, I believe.
But he dubs over the question kind of poorly that the reverse kind of gives away.
But yeah, you you'll I guess you can see it again.
tim pool
But uh Wow, hold on, let's play it.
jimmy kimmel
Yeah, see how hard the president is taking this.
unidentified
Sir personally, how are you holding up over the last day and a half, sir?
I think very good.
And by the way, right there, you see all the trust.
serge du preez
They just started So wait, you the what I'm trying from what I from what I'm understanding when I've asked AI about this, from what I understand is that it was from a previous clip.
I don't think that's from the same thing.
They just dubbed the audio.
tim pool
Right, right, right.
So I don't that I don't know if I believe that, man.
serge du preez
That's a huge.
tim pool
I would explain why it got canceled.
Yeah, like Surge asked AI, and it said that the clip of Donald Trump originally aired in 2024.
And so the the the You what did you ask Chat GPT this right now?
serge du preez
Yeah, basically what I know I asked, I asked Rock.
I haven't asked the other the any other AIs.
I just did when I first heard you talk about it.
So I'm trying to figure it out right now.
tim pool
Let's fact check that because that sounds crazy.
serge du preez
Yeah, Kimmel play it's what it's telling me is Kimmel played the 2024 clip in the September 16th, 2025 monologue to mock Trump's unrelated response in a hypothetical context.
But he didn't really make it clear that that's a hypothetical context or anything like that.
Like I did remember it sparked accusations of decontextualization from conservative outlets like Fox News and New York Post.
tate brown
So I thought I did remember seeing other White House reporters verifying that he said that, but then a lot of them are saying it was so loud and raucous in the area that there's no way Trump could have heard like especially parse out with the comments.
brett dasovic
They were talking about the White House ballroom, which is the I don't think it's gonna become a lot of things.
serge du preez
So I have no idea.
I'm I'm just yeah.
brett dasovic
The discussion about the White House ballroom has been going on lately, though, so it's it's hard to believe that the clip was pulled from before.
serge du preez
Yeah, I don't know.
I guess that I'm I'm currently Oh, right.
tim pool
They're doing the renovations right now.
brett dasovic
Like so that that's okay, okay.
unidentified
That because uh that seemed way crazier.
serge du preez
Yeah, yeah.
brett dasovic
I mean, he I mean, the part about characterizing him as MAGA is already crazy.
That's that that's something that's so verifiably proven false already, but they don't care.
And that's one bridge too far as it is, which is why I'm sure a lot of people believe that Disney's issue here is that he lied outright about something like that's a whole nother thing to edit that clip in such a deceptive way.
tim pool
I'd like to offer you all this.
To conservatives, I give you an argument, and to liberals, I give you your argument back to you.
It's a comic from XKCD, which the liberals waved in our faces as our friends and even our enemies were censored, despite the fact we had objections to it because people are allowed to express their opinions.
And in this rather ignorant comic in which XKCD has no idea what he's talking about, liberals claimed this.
Public service announcement.
The right to free speech means the government can't arrest you for what you say.
It doesn't mean that anyone else has to listen to your BS or host you while you share it.
The First Amendment doesn't shield you from criticism or consequences.
If you're yelled at, boycotted, have your show canceled, or get banned from an internet community, your free speech rights aren't being violated.
It's just that people, the people that are listening think you're an a-hole and they're showing you the door.
Now, I'm gonna be honest with you.
This is one of the stupidest things I've ever read, and I'll tell you why.
But this is what liberals stood on, as they said, everybody with an offensive opinion who express it should be banned.
In fact, people who said hashtag learn to code were getting banned on Twitter.
phil labonte
It's it's worth pointing out the context surrounding the people that are losing their jobs or being quote unquote canceled now is the death of an innocent man, right?
A murder.
And they're complaining, they're saying, oh, cancel culture's back.
And if you think about the reasons that people on the right got cancelled, it was because they misgendered someone.
unidentified
They used the wrong swearing.
phil labonte
They said they would they were basically taunting um media personalities or journalists on the internet.
tim pool
Yeah, making fun of a journalist was grounds to be permanently banned.
So it's ridiculous.
Yes, yes, I I understand.
And and and I think it's an important distinction to say.
People are losing their jobs for mocking the death of somebody, which shows a dramatic and violent escalation of the rhetoric, and what Jimmy Kimmel and others are doing could lead to more violence.
That I completely understand.
The the underlying factor in these cancellations now is that a man is dead.
His wife and children were there and they watched it happen, and it is gruesome and horrifying.
And we have a story from someone on the ground that I'm gonna make sure everybody understands how serious this is.
But let me make one thing clear first about this liberal argument.
Free speech and the first amendment are two distinct things.
The right to free speech is a principle held by a moral and virtuous people.
That means they themselves will not infringe upon your right.
You can speak, they'll leave you alone.
The First Amendment says the government shouldn't.
XKCD wrongfully conflated these things because these people have no idea what they're talking about.
And the last thing I will say to all the liberals that are crying about this, one, I still believe in free speech.
I will still defend defend uh free speech, Just not for you.
You know why?
Because you asked me not to.
You came to me and said, Tim, if people say hate speech, they should be banned.
And I said, I disagree with that.
You said, this is the way I want to live.
And then I said, okay, fine.
I will uphold your wishes for you.
So when Jimmy Kimmel gets fired, my response is, I don't care.
I love it.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
And if you want to go have that argument right now, go yell at Pam Bondi.
That's what everybody's doing over there, right?
They're talking about what they're discussing with hate speech over there.
Plenty of people are having that argument.
Do you remember the case I mentioned it today a couple of years ago?
If you want to talk about the difference between what's going on right now and a couple years ago, the guy who got fired for cracking his knuckles outside of his car door, and they thought he was putting up the okay hand symbol.
That's that's if you're comparing the two, they're not the same thing.
And for people like me who do take the the free speech act uh side of this very, very seriously, what happens is you've just bled out my desire to help you, given the fact that nobody wanted to help anybody else before.
tim pool
And now what I'm going to do for all of you, because many people are making the argument about free speech or otherwise, is going back to the conversation about the severity of the circumstances we deal with.
Jimmy Kimmel falsely portrayed a mass shooter as a conservative.
And now the reason that's so dangerous is that they are already trying to justify and call for more murders.
And you know what?
I got no problem saying I take it personally, as my name is on many of these lists.
So when someone says, stop defending a mass shooter publicly, and you get banned for it, I ain't gonna defend you.
But so that you all really understand, and I know everybody on the right, and everybody who truly knew Charlie was, they already do.
But for those liberals who want to make the argument, I have a video here from Frank Turk, who is going to give you his account of what happened on that fateful day.
It's five minutes, and I ask you to please just listen, and it's gonna be hard, and it was hard for me, but it was hard, it was much harder for Frank, who was actually there.
And after you hear what he says, maybe you will understand why we should not be tolerating the left, dance on graves, and call for more death.
I give you Frank Turk.
frank turek
Now, here's what Erica wants me to relate on Sunday.
This is gonna be the hard part, but maybe also the comforting part.
Charlie Kirk was literally like a son to me.
I have three sons.
He was like my fourth son.
My three sons are a little bit older than Charlie.
unidentified
He was like my fourth son.
frank turek
So when he was hit, if your son got hit, what would you do?
What would you do?
unidentified
I got in the car.
Because if there was any way I could save him, I had to do something.
I couldn't just, oh yeah, just take them.
frank turek
You guys got it.
So they got him into the side of the car.
It was an SUV.
It was the SUV we took over.
And uh I'm on one side, and there's actually some video of this.
Somebody's taking video of this.
I'm on one side of the car, the right side, and they're getting Charlie in.
So I run over to the other side, but the guy was dragging him in is now blocking that entrance.
So at that point, I run around to the back.
I pop the top uh the back gate open, and I jump in the back.
The car lurches forward.
Apparently, somebody jumped in the car.
So the car lurches forward, so I almost fall out of the car.
The SUV.
Then I grab the thing and close it.
And there's five of us in the car now.
Justin is driving.
Dan is up front with the with the GPS.
Rick is got him.
Rick's on my left, and Brian is there, and I'm coming over the back seat, and Charlie's laid out in front, just right in front of me.
And Charlie's so tall, we can't we can't close the door.
We drove four miles, some, I don't know, it's four something miles, all the way to the hospital with the door open.
To this day, I don't know how Brian stayed in the car.
unidentified
Because we're just go, go, go, go, go.
We're you know, we're trying to do, we're trying to stop the bleeding.
frank turek
You saw it.
And I'm yelling, come on, Charlie, come on, come on.
Meanwhile, my phone is still on.
unidentified
My son and daughter-in-law are here in this whole thing.
frank turek
And his security team, again, Justin, Dan, Brian, and Rick, they love Charlie.
But they're much cooler than I. I mean, they're just carrying out their calmly, but they're swiftly doing exactly what they were trained to do.
Rick starts praying out loud.
I'm praying out loud.
We're yelling, come on, let's go, let's go, let's go.
My son's hearing all this.
And we're we're doing the best we can to navigate traffic.
This is not a highway.
We're on surface streets.
And suddenly there's an ambulance coming toward us.
And there was conversation in the car.
Should we stop?
We're like, no, no, just keep going.
Just keep going.
The doctor later said that was the right thing to do.
Ambulance goes by us.
We're still heading to the hospital, trying to get there.
At one point, somebody says, let's get there in one piece, because we're just we're cutting through intersections, you know, we're just beeping the horn.
This is not an emergency vehicle.
There's no, there's no lights, there's none of this.
And I go, we got to start CPR.
So I try and start that.
unidentified
Now Charlie wasn't there.
His eyes were fixed.
He wasn't looking at me.
He was looking past me right into eternity.
He was with Jesus already.
He was killed instantly.
frank turek
And felt absolutely no pain.
That's what I was told later.
But of course, we had to try.
And by the way, there's just nothing.
Nothing any of us could do about it.
We were giving him CPR, but nothing was happening.
It wasn't like if we had better first aid or we had better medical facilities, or we were faster to the hospital, we could have saved him.
We couldn't.
So if if that's any comfort at all, Charlie didn't suffer.
unidentified
He was gone.
frank turek
He was with Jesus, absent from the body, present with the Lord.
unidentified
That's where he was.
frank turek
Now it is true when we got to the hospital and they started working on them right away.
They did get a pulse back.
And so Rick and I were just everyone's praying.
We're just praying for a miracle.
We had a we had a small sliver of hope.
And the doctor later said that we got a pulse because Charlie was a very healthy man.
But the shot was catastrophic.
So 20 or 30 minutes later, the surgeon came out and said he was dead.
tim pool
I hope people hearing that story and that account of what happened understand why we are not playing any games.
This is not a question of someone saying naughty words and you felt insulted.
This was an innocent man who asked for speech and debate, who was moderate politically.
And it's funny when these liberals are like, this is moderate, and they show him saying things like, no abortion should be allowed.
And I'm like, have you met a Christian ever in your life?
That's the middle of the road Christian position.
There are some Christians who are like, we should we should like have prison and jail for people who get abortions, like even the women.
And Charlie was a moderate on this issue.
And he was murdered in cold blood by a lunatic.
And it sounds like with the FBI currently investigating some of these terror groups, these anti-vacelles, that there may be more people involved.
We don't know.
It's been reported that he was a loan shooter.
The messages seem to convey that, but nobody really believes those messages, and we don't know exactly.
But it was reported earlier today that I believe they did bring it.
I gotta fact check this one, but this was relayed to me by some uh I'll just call it security and law enforcement professionals, that they have brought in individuals associated with the Discord for for questioning.
And I'll fact check that one.
So Jimmy Kimmel coming out and saying the shooter was MAGA, when you have stories like this, and the severity of what we're dealing with is one of the most insane and dangerous things you could possibly do.
And I will stress, I don't want to see people lose their jobs having bad opinions.
But I will also stress Jimmy Kimmel being able to go onto his show to several million people and lie to them about the state of politics in this country is driving the political violence.
And that's just it.
So when the network says you insulted a man grieving his friend, you claimed and lied.
Now think about what that does to ABC when they have to issue a retraction because it was false, egregiously false.
They don't want to do that either.
They could they're they're gonna be facing some suits.
Who knows what?
So they said that's it, we're done.
Not to mention his show is probably losing money.
But uh I I hope people I, you know, I I I apologize for people who maybe didn't want to hear that story, but I think it's very, very important.
Everybody did.
will tanner
Well, d to your point about violence and what's going on, what Kimmel was trying to do there is what the media did in the 70s with the weathermen, with the family, particularly with the black liberation army, where you have these leftist Marxist radicals who are murdering dozens of people, planting bombs, blowing up buildings, and the media is claiming either it's not happening or we don't know what their moot motives are.
We don't know if they're an organized group, which is of course what they've said about Antifa as well.
And it's this attempt to cover up this leftist uh insurgency, uh a proto-guerrilla movement that's happening inside America and is extremely dangerous and violent.
And uh the weathermen were never dealt with.
Uh uh Chesa Boudin, who was in one of the top people in the Renn collective and really helped Soros push this soft on crime policy all over America.
He's the son of Kathy Boudin, who murd helped murder someone during an armed car robbery and never really faced justice for it over than some time in prison.
Uh, similarly, Obama's mentors, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn, weathermen never face jail for bombings.
They think they can get away with it this time, like they got away with it for a decade in the 70s, and I that can't be allowed to happen.
So I think Kimmel's firing is very important on that front.
tim pool
Let's take a listen to uh we got this from Mediaite.
America is a less free place.
Brian Stelter aghast at ABC's chilling decision to suspend Jimmy Kimmel.
They don't learn their lesson.
Listen to this.
unidentified
Truly dropped as I think a shock to anybody who heard it, even if they knew that Brendan Carr, uh, the pro-Trump chief of the FCC had made the comments he made on that podcast.
I don't think there's anybody who literally thought within hours Jimmy Camel would be gone.
brian stelter
Right.
Uh absolutely right.
Uh, in fact, uh this was very sudden this afternoon.
After Carr spoke out on that far right podcast, then some stations that are owned far right podcast.
tim pool
Benny Johnson, again, moderate conservative.
brian stelter
Owned by other companies, but affiliated with ABC, started to complain to ABC.
We know one of them, Next Star, which has about two dozen stations with the ABC logo and all the ABC programming.
Next star publicly announced that they were going to drop Kimmel's show indefinitely.
Within a matter of minutes, we heard from Disney that the show was being pulled all together.
That suggests to me that other station owners were probably also getting scared.
Other station owners were probably also coming up with backup plans not to air Kimmel's show.
tim pool
Yep.
brian stelter
But even though we're talking about comedy, this is so serious.
America is a less free place if late-night comedians cannot do and say what they want.
tim pool
I want to just stress, and let's take a pause real quick and we can issue some commentary on this.
We all know what Jimmy Kimmel did.
He lied about the motivations of the shooter, which creates a shield for the shooter.
When the liberals come out and say he was actually a conservative or from conservative background, and the bolts never were engraved with anything, and he wasn't this, and they are what they're doing when they lie about the shooter, when they when they lie about Charlie and issue fake quotes, they're effectively saying to the liberal who watches CNN or Kimmel, who is scared that the values that they've supported have led to a death, they're telling you, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't be upset over this.
Charlie was a very, very bad man.
And don't worry, the shooter was actually a Trump supporter.
Keep on doing what you're doing, which resulted in this shooting.
That's why it needs to stop.
tate brown
Yeah, well, and so I mean, to Will's point, they're just completely flabbergasted that they're actually in an environment where you can get held accountable for this kind of stuff.
Because the way the way like Brian's presenting it is like that the right's like settling scores right now.
Like that's the way he's presenting it.
And that's just not at all what's happening because we saw like Frank's we we understood, understand the magnitude of what happened on Wednesday.
They don't.
They think that this is just some flippant thing that we're freaking out over.
And so it's like, yeah, they're they're just not, they're just so confused that they can actually be held accountable for this I mean nonsense that they're spewing.
will tanner
Well, and on the point of being held accountable, free speech, as Tim was saying earlier, is really it's not a law, it's a culture, and it's as a culture, it's a set of duties and responsibilities.
So if you have one side that's uh advocating for terrorism against the other side and celebrating murder, of course the other side's not gonna find that okay.
You're no longer part of that culture because you've intentionally distanced yourself from it for temporary political advantage or to support something far more awful than that, which is what they're now Doing.
brett dasovic
If you look at what it looks like when you look at all the people that were treating the situation the way they were, the people that were saying awful things about Charlie, the people that were celebrating his death.
There was people who were talking about the Gen Z aspect of it, the young people on TikTok who are doing so.
But then you have the group of the aging boomers and the Gen Xers who do still find this type of television relevant, who find this lie very easy to swallow because it reaffirms their worldview and it keeps them, it absolves them of any guilt that they may feel.
And you can't change the culture, and you can't find people away to a better understanding of one another if you can't even trust either group to be honest with one another about what's going on.
phil labonte
All you have to do is listen to what the pundits were saying, and you know where they stand, right?
So Aaron Burnett said, I think it's Aaron Burnett, right?
Said uh tru uh Trump aligned FCC.
You never heard anyone say anyone say Obama aligned FCC, you know.
brett dasovic
To be fair, you do hear people say Obama appointed judges.
phil labonte
Obama appointee, but for the most part, the only time that's mentioned is if it's in the context of something that is actually partisan.
This isn't partisan.
Jimmy Yeah, like Jimmy Kimmel said something terrible about a dude that was murdered.
And then the same thing with with Brian Seltter.
He was like, he calls Benny Johnson far right.
Anyone that doesn't, you know, that's to the to the right of the bulwark, which is essentially center left now, is considered far right.
brett dasovic
Yeah, ridiculous.
They never give you an example of what the appropriate level of right is.
phil labonte
Well, well, because there is no appropriate level of right.
tim pool
And and this is where it broke down for them.
Because Charlie Kirk was middle of the road conservative, like moderate conservative.
He was almost he like he's he's just a conservative.
There's nothing and he holds traditional religious opinions.
So what the meme started coming out was when they claimed it was the further right that killed him, even though he was already the far right.
There were memes of people on the left, you go to threads, and they're saying, You mean there's a further right group worse than Charlie Kirk?
And everyone's like, is this a joke?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's because that's the world they live in, watching garbage like CNN.
And I'll just say this it is Colin Wright's meme personified.
The right hasn't really moved.
And and the left has gone so far off the deep end.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Centrists are now right wing to these people.
Benny Johnson is far right.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, if you were uh if you were a Bible believing Christian 30 years ago, and you're a Bible believing Christian today, you're essentially the same guy.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, they've moderated.
They were Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk said gay people should be welcome in his movement.
phil labonte
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Like this is insane.
phil labonte
But for the most part, I mean, like there were always Christians that said, look, you hate the sin, not the sinner.
So you don't hate gay people.
You hate their lifestyle, or you hate that they're acting they're having their have their sodomites or whatever you want to call them.
But the fact of the matter is there were they were always people that were like, look, we can be around them, we can talk to them, we can treat them as as we we can be friendly with them, we can treat them.
We you want to be polite, you want to be nice, because you want them to feel like they can come out of the lifestyle that they're in and come to Christ, right?
That was that was the argument.
tim pool
And I agree.
However, the mainstream position, even 15 plus years ago from the conservatives was we won't accept gay marriage.
And many people who are middle of the road, moderate, or default libs switched to Trump when the choice was Hillary or Trump because Trump was actually more socially liberal.
Trump unfurled a pride flag on stage at the RNC, and a lot of middle of the road people were like, I can vote for that now.
Trump created a big tent party where moderate and disfected liberals said, Hillary's nuts, Trump's the right answer.
Charlie Kirk famously argued with people saying that gay people should be welcome in their movement.
And there's one video that's got millions of views where he tells a young gay man, I don't judge you, and you shouldn't judge yourself and introduce yourself based on the actions of what you do in private.
It should be about are you a good person and will you come to Christ?
Will you be a better person?
That is a more moderate, more socially liberal position than in the past.
And they called Charlie a homophobic homophobic, bigot far right.
If he's far right, imagine what Republicans were 10 years ago.
They're pretending like they don't get it.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean, I think Charlie's policy package that he presents is probably the most it's the probably the plurality of Americans.
I think that's fair to say.
Like traditional conservative, evangelical, these sorts of things.
And yeah, they're saying that puts a target on your back, like full stop.
That's what they've declared.
will tanner
Well, in the target on your back part is extremely important.
To go back to Antifa, the so some of the armed factions related to it, like the John Brown gun clubs, why do they call themselves John Brown gun clubs?
Why do they continually push this far right, your super racist message, like Jasmine Crockett saying ISIS slave patrols recently?
It's because they have very very dire things uh in your future that they want to do to you.
And you can see it.
That's why they glorify John Brown.
If you look at who he killed the Doyle family, they had nothing to do with slavery.
tim pool
You know what we should have done, and I apologize for this.
We should have pulled up Brian Seltzer's reaction to Roseanne getting fired.
Because how much you want to bet he was like, Well, you can't be a racist and a bigot, it's too bad.
And now he's like, oh no, he's effectively offending the flames of violence and and justifying murder.
brett dasovic
I mean, this is just what like for somebody like me who like it when all of this started, I had to kind of have that discussion with myself about how I feel about it, because I do tend to err on the side of like, look, and and I understand the the conservative argument, right?
It's like it doesn't matter if they're gonna use it against you later because they already used against you before, you need to exercise the power when you have it.
And I understand that, but because that's not you know, I I don't fall in conservative circles, it just that's never lined up for me.
But then I look at the way that these people have behaved, I look at doctors, lawyers, nurses, people educating your children, dancing on the grave of someone, and I'm like, take the politics out of it, remove it from entirely.
Is this a person I would want to be spending any time with?
Am I supposed to go to bat for somebody that abhorrent?
And I've got about 10,000 other things in my life I have to finish first, and then I'll get to that.
tim pool
Let me just say, uh, ladies and gentlemen.
Uh I did.
It took me two seconds.
Uh Brian Stelter said, excuses, excuses, excuses.
That's what's happening.
We are seeing Barr trying to say she's sorry, trying to apologize, but then in the next breath, she's making excuses, blaming this on liberal media double standard, saying she is the real victim.
Here is the sense of how he got here with his head spinning 24 hours.
So this is CNN.com transcripts of uh uh about Roseanne Barr, and uh it took me two seconds to find the transcript.
So um, sure.
But Barr undermining her own apology with a torrent of retweets from fans portraying her as a victim of a liberal double standard.
The comedian also retweeting a number of fake and offensive posts, including the f this fake yearbook quote, claiming Jarrett wanted to change America to be more like an Islamic country, also later deleted.
Jared is taking the high road, responding to Barr's initial tweet on Tuesday.
Thank you, Brian Stelter.
How terrified were you that Roseanne Barr posted a dumb joke on Twitter and got fired over it?
No.
You are a hypocrite and a liar, and your words mean nothing.
But you know what?
It was bad that people got fired for jokes.
It was worse that people got fired for jokes they made ten years ago.
It is extremely terrifying when young men are gunned down in cold blood, and then Jimmy Kimmel lies about it, other liberals lie about it, they call for more, they dance on his grave, and they put out lists with people's names on it.
Again, very personal, because my name's are on those lists.
My name's on that list as well.
So so Brian, maybe you uh need to take a step back and uh go to confession or something.
tate brown
Very real.
tim pool
Yeah, indeed.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, we do have massive breaking news uh from Truth Social.
Donald Trump has has uh deemed Antifa a terrorist organization.
He has he has truth.
I am pleased to inform our many USA patriots that I am designating Antifa, a sick, dangerous, radical left disaster, as a major terrorist organization.
I will also be strongly recommending that those funding Antifa be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the highest legal standards and practices.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Let's let's go.
tate brown
Let's go.
Yeah, this is this is exactly what needed to happen.
Dude, that we have so many options now that now that Antifa's be been declared a TARS organization, this opens up a war chest of options to really go at the throat here.
tim pool
Now what are you talking about?
brett dasovic
It's a decentralized group.
unidentified
They only have a leader.
tim pool
You know my favorite thing was that famous clip where Trump is debating Biden and he says, you know, Antifa, Antifa, and then Biden goes, Antifa's an idea.
The real threat's white supremacy.
White supremacy is an idea too, you moron.
Antifa is an international association.
They fly a banner.
brett dasovic
They have chapters.
tim pool
Right.
unidentified
They have cells with merch.
brett dasovic
You can't say you're not a group and have merch.
Those are mutually exclusive ideas.
tate brown
Like bumper stickers.
tim pool
So what what let's let's try and get as let's clarify as much as we can.
There are Antifa cells.
They fly the banner, they have a shared flag, but these groups are specific.
So they'll call themselves like Insert City Antifa or something banner Antifa.
And the generic term Antifa refers to their ideology and loose knit set of ideals and where they band together.
But flying the flag is intended to make them a singular group.
Meaning if an Italian Antifa guy comes to the United States and has the patch, it is easily recognizable to somebody in the United States.
And if a riot breaks out, they know how to coordinate because they share tactics.
So if you can't designate that an international terrorist organization, literally what can you?
Are we gonna pretend that it's not really ISIS because the guy only pledged to ISIS and was practicing what they preached and their tactics, but he never actually went to Syria to meet with them.
No, he's flying their banner.
It is a group.
And there are cells all over the all over the world.
So some have argued you can't create domestic terror organizations.
And that is that is my understanding is true.
Some have said I'm wrong, but it doesn't matter.
Antifa's international.
They are a foreign terror organization with U.S. cells and chapters.
And it's about time these people face the consequences of their actions because for a better part of a decade, longer than that, because I've been experiencing it since the since the Occupy protests.
They use similar tactics, they have a similar ideology, they get funded.
Where the money comes from is I'm curious, and they engage in violence to suppress people's rights and shut down free speech.
You may not like the Proud Boys, you may not like patriot prayer, but a bunch of right wingers of American flags walking down the street never bothered anybody.
You want to get mad about rioters of American flags by all means, but patriotic Americans walking down the street with American flags is totally legal and protected, and the far left throwing bricks, throwing firebombs, that was always illegal, and it's time for games to stop.
phil labonte
This is exactly what I've been calling for when I say the federal government needs to do something about terrorism in the United States.
Antifa are a terrorist organization.
They have always been a terrorist organization.
They are a revolutionary communist group, usually communist.
Sometimes sometimes there'll be some anarchist like anarcho-communists in there, but they're still communists at their core.
And that honestly, the distinction about anarcho-communists versus regular communists, that's all it's a distinction without a difference because they end up being communists at the end of the day.
Well, they're not really, they don't want no government.
They want a government that tells everybody to be the type of communist that they have.
tim pool
I actually really, really love this political compass distinction.
It's important for everybody.
Libertarian communists do exist.
It's a real thing.
There's like three of them.
And they live on a farm, and you've never heard of them, and you'll never see them.
Why?
Because they all all they do is live on a farm.
And this is what a libertarian communist does.
They walk up to their room and go, hey, my watermelons are right.
Did you want to share some?
Sure, man.
And then afterwards we'll do the dishes together, and they don't bother anybody.
And nobody cares.
In fact, there are some small communes in the United States where they have like 20 to 100 members and they don't bother anybody because they mind their own business and they have little hippie-dippy farms.
brett dasovic
It breaks down after about a hundred people.
tim pool
It it does.
It literally does.
That's why the most well-known uh libertarian commune has only one hundred people and they won't allow any more.
brett dasovic
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, and only when someone leaves does the wait list open up for the next person to come in.
brett dasovic
This like I've I've heard that like once you get past a hundred members of anything like that, it starts to break down.
tim pool
And so what you actually end up with in these cities are people claiming they're libertarian socialists or libertarian or anarcho-communists, and then they firebomb a police car.
And you're like, yeah, bro, let me just explain something.
When you use threat of death to enforce your ideology, that's authoritarian.
Okay, not anarcho.
When the hippie goes on the farm and says, come hang out if you want, that's libertarian.
And no one cares because nobody even knows these people exist.
I go to conservatives and they're like, there's no such thing as no, no, no, trust me.
There's just like three of them.
I've met them.
They're chill, they're all right, they're smoking pots somewhere.
I don't, I don't, I don't dig their lifestyle, but they leave me alone.
The people in the streets with batons and clubs and firebombs, they were always the tankies.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And so it's good that they've that he's uh, you know, assigned them a terrorist organization.
tim pool
Um, real quick, I I imagine tomorrow it'll be an executive order of some sort.
phil labonte
Sure.
Uh I I would assume so as well.
Um I don't imagine that there will be international drone strikes, but uh or drone strikes in in other countries or anything like that, but I do think that the FBI should start actually tracking down people that put up videos with their that they're flying the Antifa flag, if they're you know, making comments about anti-fascist, blah, blah, blah.
The federal government should start knocking on their doors just because it chills behavior.
It's not about wrapping up people for speech, but if they're ig if they are involved with an actual terrorist organization, which Antifa is, and 2020 was evidence of that.
They had been they rioted all summer, they destroyed properties, they were they were doing everything they could to intimidate people.
They were literally getting in people's faces, demanding that people say, you know, Black Lives Matter.
Go and find those people and start asking them if they are involved in terrorist activities, if they pl their plans, and you will see a significant drop in people that are actually going to say things like Charlie Kirk deserved it.
tim pool
And then you can go to Berkeley and set up a little table and say, let's have a conversation, and no one will smash it and no one will throw rocks at you.
And that is the crazy thing about this country today is I can already hear the liberals going, it's happening.
unidentified
Trump is saying that if you oppose fascism, you're a terrorist.
tim pool
And it's like, bro, I just watched a video, I think it was Cam Higby, who is like saying he's got like a sign up saying no one should die for their opinions, and a guy comes and attacks him.
And I'm like, the problem isn't the guy minding his own business.
Okay.
You guys are criminals.
You are fascists.
And Trump is saying, stop doing that.
But more importantly, I don't I honestly I don't care if someone flies a banner of whatever they want to fly.
Free speech.
Seriously, I mean it.
The question is if people are saying they're aligned with this, I believe that's enough cause to investigate whether they're providing material support to violent to violent uh terrorist groups.
Now, if you want to say they shouldn't be called terrorists, literally, I don't care what what your argument is.
If they are engaging in violence against other people for the purpose of suppressing their their speech or ability to engage in American democracy, then they are terrorists.
And so when if could you imagine if someone went on like say Piers Morgan and said, if you wanted your friend to live, you shouldn't have voted for Donald Trump.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Imagine if something like that happened.
Imagine if they I so I'm I'm gonna say this.
phil labonte
Oh I'm always supposed what what I just you you mentioned you mentioned that and Destiny never has never flown like Antifa flags, and I'm bummed that you know this isn't gonna wrap them up.
But anyways.
tim pool
So we can't so uh we we had a security assessment today.
And um we I actually do have a story from Variety about this.
I gave them a big long quote.
Uh we did initially cancel the college event that I was gonna be doing.
Um, because I had actually reached out to Charlie some time ago and I said, you know, I'll paraphrase, but I was like, dude, this is awesome what you were doing.
I'm a huge fan of this.
I would love to do things like this.
I saw what he was doing, how effective it was, and I was like, man, I wish I could be like Charlie and I could do this too.
And uh and he responded with, let's let's get to it, let's make it work.
Uh so we're both busy guys, you know, we're working out what we're doing with Amphest, whatever's gonna go on, I'm not entirely sure yet.
But I did organize with Alex Stein one of these events, and we were canceled that.
We canceled that.
That was going to be on the 11th.
We were on a Penn State.
We are not anymore because our security team cannot secure it.
And so we actually uh canceled the uh culture war live events as well.
I decided, no, these are indoors, let's do it.
Well, unfortunately, we had a security assessment, uh, sat down with my security team once again, and they said, we cannot secure this event.
It's up to you.
And I so then I talked to my wife, we discussed it, and we're like, we right now, we can't do it.
So I want to stress this.
Why this is so important that Trump is taking action against these terrorists.
I don't think it will stop the violence right now.
I think maybe in the future, we can stem the bleed, as it were, figuratively.
Meaning it will only get worse if nothing is done, but at least for now, we may pull out of this tailspin.
Because of these people, you know they got our vent the venue canceled on us the first time we did this because of threats, because of threats of terror.
And we pushed back and they brought our event back, and only three people showed up to protest.
Now, because of the death threats, one crazy person, we can't secure the event.
And so for at least the time being, we were told we we cannot provide meaningful security, which prevents a few problems.
Everyone's gonna respond with Tim be brave, don't let them stop you.
Tell that to the insurance company when the security assessors say we can't provide security, and the insurance company says we won't insure your event, and then the venue says, without insurance, you can't have one.
That's not happened just yet because we're voluntarily saying we we we're gonna this is what we've typically dealt with with insurance for events, the the things that you need in order to make them happen.
And we just said, listen, it's not even just about that.
I don't want to make it seem like an insurance company came to us and shut us down.
I'm saying that's just a a major component.
We think being unable To secure it.
And a challenge to whether or not we're gonna be able to afford the insurance means we should probably wait.
And so uh I don't know exactly what's gonna be happening with happening with this.
There's also the trip to Arizona, which I mentioned the other night, which I don't know exactly what's going to be happening, but I'm being told right now to buy a wig.
I'm not kidding.
Buy a wig, get a polo shirt and some and some cargo shorts and sunglasses if you want to go to Arizona.
And I'm like, I don't know that I can live like this.
Now I get it, big celebrities bigger than like I'm who am I?
I'm some guy on the internet who complains.
You know, Brad Pitt walks down the street, he's got to deal with that stuff.
I get it.
But the issue right now is there is a series of death threats that are that we have forwarded, I believe, to the FBI.
I'm I'm pretty sure it's our security team did, threatening to murder me and calling for others to murder me as well.
This is why I look at this and I say, Good.
These people who go online and are telling me I can't speak, and you know what's funny?
I'm to the left of Charlie.
And they're telling even me I should be murdered.
Something has to be done about this.
I fear with this action from Trump, we will still face some degree of escalation.
The left response immediately following this, because this happened 20 minutes ago.
They're going to say Trump just made it illegal to oppose fascism.
That's what they will say.
That's what they're going to say.
I'll just say this.
I have never faced any threats from Grupers.
They call they they they make memes about me.
They make a meme where I've got the the Jewish things coming down the braids or whatever.
I don't know what they're called.
And what is it?
Payas.
And it's me saying the Goyam found out or something like that.
I don't know.
That's the worst thing they've done to me.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They've been like, you like Israel.
And I'm like, bro, what are you talking about?
unidentified
That's it.
tim pool
The left sends me death threats all the time.
All the time.
We have these creepos.
And so I'm just, I'm my family is stressed, I'm stressed, and we want it to be done with.
And hopefully, this pulls us out of the tailspin and puts a stop to a decade plus, maybe 15 years or more of extreme violence from far left deranged lunatics who are given protection.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
The protection is the worst part too, because for a long time, I think to the general public, people who don't follow politics very, very closely, when they think of domestic terrorism, they don't think of it as a left-wing concept.
They think of it as almost entirely a right-wing idea, despite the fact that they can't really give you modern examples of what that actually looks like.
But they don't know about the black bloc.
They don't know about anti, or even what you were talking about in the 70s or any of those types of events that have transpired.
And there needs to be a change around understanding where that type of terroristic threat is coming from in this country.
will tanner
To talk about where it's coming from, this is particularly important, the labeling them as terrorist organizations, because that's not just how you go after the foot soldiers like the John Brown gun clubs or Antifa or Black Bloc.
It's how you go after the second and third tier people who are backing this and making it continually happen and providing them with the resources where they can continue doing these illegal things with near impunity.
I mean, to go back to the 70s, they got away with it because they had champagne socialists and people like that giving them the best lawyers, providing them with the best things.
The city and state governments were often on their side, like Mayor Lindsay in New York City.
Now that situation has more or less been repeated with these huge funds providing the lawyers, the media help, the personalities, everything it can do.
This helped shut that down because now you can investigate those people and make sure they no longer have these huge amounts of resources to just break the law and go after us.
tate brown
Well, now, I mean, big beautiful bill, the DHS got an additional 165 billion, so they have some new toys, I think that they're uh looking to implement here with this new terrorist organization.
It's gonna you're gonna need a lot of resources to get to the bottom of this.
This is a huge network in this country.
tim pool
I got an idea for all the liberals and leftists and the far left out there.
Uh get a little folding table from Walmart, uh, buy a big piece of like whiteboard and write on it, Donald Trump is a fascist, change my mind, tape it to the table, sit down politely to university with a microphone and have peaceful conversations and win your argument.
There's a really funny meme I saw earlier, not meme, but like a tweet.
There is no Charlie Kirk analog on the left.
There is no left liberal, far left personality who has an open platform in public and says, come and challenge my ideas and I will and I will prove myself right.
Because all of them know they are wrong.
And that's why they engage in violence.
You do not shoot and kill a man who you've easily defeated in an argument.
And I think it was George R. R. Martin in Game of Thrones said, when you tear out a man's tongue, you don't prove him wrong.
You simply show the world you fear what he might say.
So when they killed Charlie Kirk, what would what were they admitting?
He's right.
And we can't win.
will tanner
Well, they say they're against fascism.
Can any of them define fascism as like no one on earth can fat and can define fascism.
phil labonte
At all.
Like they're just like, oh, it's my dad.
tate brown
Mainstream, even though it's not a good thing.
tim pool
No liberal can.
You talk to most conservatives, and they'll give you the basic breakdowns of what fascism is.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
There's a few different views.
One is the lucrative merger of corporation and state.
That's the one I was always...
However, there's an easier way to just to describe it because these economic functions vary from uh country to country.
It was totalitarian traditionalism.
That's it, it was it was an authoritarian structure with a traditionalist bent.
And communism was authoritarian or totalitarian progressivism.
The communists wanted to erase all history and make you live in these equal little boxes, and the fascists were like restore the natural order.
So they were the two extreme ends of traditional or progressive.
They call you a fascist because you hold some traditional values, which is psychotic.
You can be a liberal and not a commie.
You can be a conservative, not a fascist.
That's just that simple.
To them, literally every conservative is a fascist, and any any um well I I guess apostate of liberalism, even if you're not conservative, is still a fascist.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
So they've lost the plot.
tate brown
Tim gives that eloquent breakdown going to the nitty-gritty of the ideologies, and then you ask a liberal and they just describe like a Southern Baptist.
phil labonte
My dad.
My dad.
My dad tells me I can't do things that's fascism.
That's why I don't like my dad.
That's fascism.
But the point that that you made um, Tay earlier, going for the organizations that fund you know, the the NGOs and going after them.
Oh, was it was it you they made it?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Okay, sorry about that.
But uh that's gonna be the thing that really pays off, right?
That's the that's where you're gonna really get the most bang for your buck.
Because it's easy to take care of the crazies on the streets that are gonna throw bricks because they're crazies.
They're gonna look for a reason to to you know get buckwilde or whatever.
If there's a riot, they're gonna go out there.
If they've got someone that that eggs them on, then they'll do something.
But they're kind of crazy.
They're people that are, you know, they're loose cannons, they're people that don't have a whole lot going on in their life.
And so they go and they're they're like, I don't mind throwing a rock through the window because if I get put in jail, I don't care.
I'm not I don't really have plans for my life.
tate brown
But I made the point on the show, I think it was Friday.
I was like, the only thing, the only distinction between these mainstream pundits and the people that are throwing bricks to the window is the people that are throwing bricks through and just have nothing to lose.
Yeah, like these pundits, they have the exact same ideology.
Yeah, they just have a little more skin in the game.
phil labonte
I don't think that the people that are throwing bricks really have a whole significant grasp on the ideology.
They're a little they're they're the ones that are a little more on the anarcho side.
tate brown
Sure.
phil labonte
And and they have less uh they have a less coherent worldview than the organizers that use them.
will tanner
Yeah, they're buying it.
They hate beauty because it exists.
Yeah, they hate order because it exists.
tim pool
I want to uh I want to we we've got a little bit more news on the Jimmy Kimmel thing.
Here's a really great uh sentence for you.
When asked by the Hollywood reporter, the source said that Kimmel was not planning on apologizing.
He felt that what he said did not require an apology.
That's why he got shut down.
brett dasovic
So he lied and doesn't feel that his lie requires an apology.
will tanner
Yep.
tim pool
Indeed.
And so uh yeah, this is the the latest development on the matter.
We have uh uh other big news from Variety.
South Park delays new episode hours ahead of airtime because craters didn't get it done in time.
They say apparently when you do everything at the last minute, sometimes you don't get it done.
This one's on us.
We didn't get it done in time.
Thanks to Comedy Central and South Park fans for being so understanding.
Tune in next week.
Uh I'm gonna tell you what really happened, and it's just my opinion, but the South Park episode South Park's been doing this for how long?
What, 30 years?
brett dasovic
30 years.
tim pool
Have they ever missed an episode?
brett dasovic
I think that there's a couple of rare examples, but it doesn't matter.
tim pool
This issue statements.
brett dasovic
This is a well-oiled machine, and you don't just show up the day of the episode.
First of all, there was supposed to be a teaser yesterday that never came out.
You don't just show up the day and like the head of Paramount calls you and is like, uh, where is the episode?
Sorry, boss, I just didn't get it done.
That's that's not how it happens.
tim pool
I believe, and I think this is a fair assessment, and I think y'all agree.
South Park was planning to do an episode that was overtly political, likely about Trump.
And there's a variety of things that it may have included.
Cartman is Charlie Kirk again.
Donald Trump doing something that put his life in danger.
They may have it may have been as simple as the Trump character gets hit by a car or something.
And then Paramount was probably like, no way.
Absolutely not.
brett dasovic
And there's there's a huge history of television shows that have moved episodes around because of I mean, this was happening unfortunately a lot during the early 2000s because of school shootings and television shows would run episodes with dramatized versions of this and that, and then they would have to move it a month and they'd have to release a statement that said, you know, it coincided with real world events.
We're sorry, you know, we had to move it down the line.
But in today's day and age, you know, this it's a whole different ball game now.
tim pool
Yeah.
They pulled that they shouldn't have pulled the first episode.
Some people have said that uh they're responsible.
I've I have seen some people tweet that.
But the idea that the majority of Trump supporters are anyway mad at South Park, they were celebrating.
It was like putting Charlie Kirk in South Park was was was basically the victory flag on top of the mountain.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean it was it was an affirmation of his impact culturally.
Just because South Park portrayed him as someone they disagreed with, doesn't mean that it he didn't have you know it wasn't a massive uh compliment to even put him in there.
You don't get on in South Park unless you have an impact on society.
tate brown
Yeah, well he made it his profile picture.
brett dasovic
He did he did what Christy Gnome was supposed to do before somebody wisened her up, which she was mad at first when South Park portrayed her, and then somebody in the know is like, yeah, that's not gonna work for you if you pretend like if you show them that you're mad, they're just gonna go even harder at you.
So then she like I don't know if she deleted that tweet, but then she changed her mind and like made it her profile picture because she under somebody in her camp understood they're like it will get worse for you if you're actually upset by this.
tate brown
Well, and I just remember like it beginning past her on Twitter, and everyone on the right was like, Yeah, this is pretty funny.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
I mean, it's like a little tacky, but it's funny, yeah.
tim pool
I mean that the episode, you guys, did you guys watch it?
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
He's debating as if he's Charlie Kirk, and he's actually just giving Charlie Kirk's opinions for the most part, where he's like, Well, why he's like sitting there drinking the water and he's like, why isn't a fetus a baby?
Why, why is what and and and then Bebe can't answer, and he's like, okay.
brett dasovic
The worst part about it is like then you draw in the media literacy crowd who's like, They're making fun of you.
Because they do that.
They did that with um the media literacy.
The the worst people on the internet is the person who says that you can't like something because you don't understand it.
Just block them.
They're the worst people in the room.
tim pool
They're like Charlie doesn't understand is being made fun of.
brett dasovic
Because Cartman's the bad guy.
So yeah, they don't care.
Right?
They were doing that when they were doing the Kathleen Kennedy one, uh, you know, put a chick in it and make it gay.
That that was they're like, yeah, you don't get that Cartman's the bad guy, so they're making funny.
He's like, we don't care.
They don't care.
And you're the one who's the drag on society if you think that I have to interpret whatever media you're talking about in the way that you see it.
tate brown
Yeah, they're like, I you know they're making fun.
He's like, really?
unidentified
They are the first time.
tate brown
Yeah, literally.
tim pool
I want to stress we don't actually know what happened with the South Park episode.
They just said they didn't get it done in time.
brett dasovic
Again, it's my uh the dog ate my homework.
Nobody buys that.
tim pool
It's i indeed, it's where they should have statement.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because haven't they missed weeks this season?
brett dasovic
I mean, they could have just released uh a rerun and it did it all the time.
tim pool
Yeah.
brett dasovic
There was a um I mean they hadn't, I mean, they I don't know if they had to release a statement, but they have a schedule that they have to keep to.
So look, I've been a point of interest for a couple of hours.
tim pool
All I know is everyone like a couple weeks ago, after the Charlie Kirk thing came out, people were like, isn't that new?
South Park's supposed to come out this week.
And then everyone shrugged because it didn't.
And I'm like, I have no idea.
They could have said nothing and people would have been like, Yeah.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
But I guess when you're getting paid 30 million dollars.
So I think the strong probability is there is a secret episode of South Park that you can't see.
brett dasovic
It'll come out later.
I think they'll end up releasing it later.
tim pool
Yeah.
If it if it exists.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
I mean, it also, I mean, it could literally be the same, because if I remember correctly, this appears on both, is it on Comedy Central and on Paramount, right?
tim pool
That's the same thing, isn't it?
brett dasovic
Okay, but I'm saying, but like network, if it's appearing on cable or TV, they have to worry about advertisers and advertisers getting pulled.
If it's just going on Paramount Plus, because that's what happened with the Charlie Kirk episode, is they removed it from network TV, but they left it on Paramount Plus.
You don't know somebody can somebody can fact check me if I'm the Kirk episode?
Yes.
tim pool
I believe it was I went to Paramount Plus and I couldn't find it.
brett dasovic
Okay, they removed it from there.
Okay, so I don't know.
tim pool
I don't know.
brett dasovic
Like, um looking into heavily.
Like the idea is like you have to find advertisers for the network version, and you're gonna have a lot harder time selling that than you are if you're just putting it on your streaming platform.
Somebody in the chat will know whether it's up on Paramount Plus still.
tim pool
I'm waiting to see if there's like some reaction on X to Trump designated Antifa uh terror organization, but one thing on that that's important to remember with the organizations we were talking about.
will tanner
George Soros' Open Society Foundation, where did it get its start?
South Africa during the terror campaign being waged by the ANC against the government that ended in the horror show that South Africa now is.
So being able to cut these people off and cut off the funds from to where they're going, I think could have a really huge impact that we haven't thought of because it could stop the color revolutions that have been ongoing in all our countries for decades now.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of paper trails, et cetera, et cetera.
tim pool
Uh so we just got some breaking news, too.
I'm gonna pull this up from Nick Sorter on Jimmy Kimmel.
tate brown
So much going on.
tim pool
Well, uh Sinclair's stepped up, and I think this uh was it um it was was it Stelter was saying this that likely other networks were who who brought that up?
Was it uh other networks were likely making moves against Jimmy Kimmel, which is why ABC was forced to respond.
So take a look at this from Nick Sorder.
He says breaking it just got worse for Kimmel.
Sinclair Broadcast Group, who owns 24 ABC stations in major cities, announces you gotta let me finish this.
They'll be filling Jimmy Kimmel's time slot with a tribute to Charlie Kirk.
They're also demanding Kimmel make a meaningful personal donation to the Kirk family and turning point USA, as well as a direct apology to Erica and the kids.
Incredible.
Mr. Kimmel's remarks were inappropriate and deeply insensitive at a critical critical moment in our country.
Said Vice Chairman Jason Smith.
Sinclair gave much credit to Brendan Car FCC saying we appreciate FCC Chairman Carr's remarks today, and this incident highlights the critical need for the FCC to take immediate regulatory action to address control held over local broadcasters by the b big national networks.
brett dasovic
So the big national networks blame the FC the FC the FCC and then the and then now they're saying that it's the other, you know, that it's not them.
phil labonte
What?
brett dasovic
So they're saying that can you read the last part again?
phil labonte
Claire gave much credit to Brennan Carr saying we appreciate FCC Chairman Carr's remarks today.
And this incident highlights the critical need for the FCC to take immediate regulatory action to address control held over local broadcasters by the big national networks.
tate brown
I mean, is this the worst thing in the world if the SEC is putting weight?
I mean, that's kind of like their job if there's this insanity being spewed on national airwaves.
Isn't that the FCC's purview?
I mean mitigate political violence.
And that's what we've been arguing this whole time.
phil labonte
That's the I think that's the best point.
Considering the fact that this is political violence, right?
This is there's no question about it.
Radio Rwanda level, it was a literal, it was a terrorist attack, and this is something that I I am I'm going to beat this like a dead horse.
This wasn't just a murder.
This was a terrorist attack intended on getting conservatives to stop speaking their mind.
Because again, Charlie Kirk's whole spiel was I'm the guy that wants to talk to you.
I want to do the debate.
This is this is probably a very good thing for the whole country because the intent is to lower the temperature.
The people that are that you hear people on the left complaining that, oh, Donald Trump's not lowering the temperature, Donald Trump's not lowering the temperature, Donald Trump's not lowering the temperature while they're calling Donald Trump a fascist, while they're saying that, well, Charlie Kirk was a fascist.
Well, it it's bad that he got killed, but he said all these horrible things and he did all this horrible stuff, and he was a hateful person and blah, blah, blah.
None of that is lowering the temperature.
This is actually tangibly attempting to lower the temperature.
brett dasovic
I guess the point what I was trying to make earlier is that Sinclair is saying that the F that the FCC is addressing the the control of the big national networks, which was what was being stated about by by Brian Stelter on CNN, right?
So Sinclair is saying that the big national networks like CNN have control over these stations, but then CNN was putting it off on the FCC.
phil labonte
Yeah.
brett dasovic
So they're all passing the buck around to everybody else.
tim pool
And I I would like to issue a request to those out there with the decentralized network and so many viewers, there's a great power in uh so many of you working together.
Um I would ask that you go to tipcast.com, join our Discord server so we can work on these communal projects because what I'm about to ask requires a bit of coordination.
How about we pull up every Quote from every liberal who fought to get Tucker Carlson kicked off of Fox News.
All of the statements they issued where they said he should be fired and then went to all the advertisers and got all the advertisers pulled.
They have no nothing, they have no ground to stand on when it comes to Jimmy Kimmel.
Because they fought so hard to kick off Tucker.
Why should I listen to anything they say now?
brett dasovic
All because he wanted to talk about the green MM's go-go boots.
tim pool
I know.
He said that why isn't the MM sexy anymore?
And they took his job.
tate brown
It's a very salient question.
tim pool
To be fair, even Seamus made fun of Tucker for that one.
Why isn't the green MM sexy anymore?
tate brown
That radicalized that radicalized me beyond belief.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
I want my sexy MMs back.
The left, the woke left took it from me.
tim pool
But in all serious to Roseanne as well.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It would be great if you know someone could put together a little video showing every you know what we know what we need?
We need like Brian Suther being like, this country is left less free.
They're coming for our speech or whatever, and then you could play the curbed theme and then show all the time Brian Stelter cheered for like Roseanne or Tucker getting fired.
brett dasovic
Like, am I really supposed to buy into a world where Brian Stelter's like, I disagree with what you say, but I defend it, right?
Like, sure, Jan.
phil labonte
Well, they shut down Parlor because they claimed it was supporting terrorism or something by letting that they said that that's where the the January 6th people organized, even though later it came out they organized on Facebook.
tim pool
Which brings me to the story from Time.com.
CEOs of Reddit and Twitch called to testify to Congress on radicalization in wake of Charlie Kirk killing.
Anyone who's ever gone on uh Reddit knows that um it is a hotbed of radicalization for the left.
YouTube is, and they lie.
They've always lied.
They claim that all these platforms like X or whatever were radicalized built to the right.
It was never true, and we went over the data over and over again.
So uh let me tell you something for really funny.
We launched a uh I gotta I got a new channel, it's YouTube.com slash at Tim Pool.
I got a video that's it's it's called hyped.
That's what they're calling it.
I had no idea what this was.
It's got uh like 200,000, it's called It's Time to Bring Back Exorcisms.
I found something really funny.
We launched this channel because I believe YouTube has put coded censorship on this channel as well as many others, making it difficult to get recommendations or to be found.
I believe that since the Biden era, they have remained on these channels.
So if we make a new channel, it will be free of this.
Well, the videos that I've put out, uh I'll I'll say it like this.
I put out a video on this channel on Timcast or Timcast News.
They spike in viewership and then die.
That's the life of these videos.
On the new channel, it's like it used to be.
When I first launched my channel on YouTube, it would spike, it would go down, then it would go up, then it would go down, then up and down, and eventually slowly fade out.
Maybe later on spike back again.
That's what my new channel is doing, indicating that YouTube, also a hot bet of radicalization, still has the censorship active.
Well, now Reddit and Twitch are going to testify to Congress and Hassan's freaking out.
He's like, Twitch doesn't even know to do anything with this way.
Oh boy, you know why he's freaking out?
Because the Congress, uh men and women, uh, at least the conservatives are gonna say to the CEO of Twitch, uh, Hassan Piker said this.
Got him, stab him, stick a knife in their belly, things like that.
I can't even repeat some of the things that Hassan Piker has said on his show.
And he's freaking out because the CEO of Twitch is gonna have to answer for all of that.
phil labonte
I just want to point out until they get the CEO of kick again, Destiny's dodging the bullet.
tim pool
That's true.
I guess kick isn't big enough.
phil labonte
Uh I don't know, but uh maybe they they're just probably it but kick is where the the people that get kicked off of Twitch go to because they're allowed to be irreverent or whatever, you know.
tim pool
I bet if I pull up Reddit, go to R slash news, and uh let's take a look at what we got.
Just uh, you know, just ABC suspends Jimmy Kimmel.
How much do you want to bet all of the comments are going to be left aligned?
phil labonte
Just means straight up people calling for more murder.
tim pool
Has there ever been a person whose death and remarks about it have caused so many other people to get canceled?
Meanwhile, Brian killed the homeless kill me is still on the air.
will tanner
Uh based.
tate brown
Wow.
tim pool
Now Cole Bear's chance to go scorched earth and get pulled mid monologue.
It's not like he has his show after this season anyway.
brett dasovic
But he just won an Emmy.
tate brown
Cole Bear says left wing things.
phil labonte
What is he gonna say that's gonna that could get him pulled?
Like what it what is he gonna say?
Yeah, that he hasn't already said.
Unless it's like just straight up, you know, like lying.
tim pool
I mean, bro, I actually I won't I really want to watch a show now.
It is gonna be pretty Bro, it it is it is I it's it's not even fair to call it thin ice that he's walking on.
He's like it's it's it's it's a it's a pool of water.
It's like he takes any step in any direction, he falls in.
What's he gonna do?
He can't do any of these, he can't do literally any joke.
The news cycle right now is this.
What will he say about it other than to agree with the right?
And then what jokes can he make?
How much would have bet his jokes are gonna be totally unrelated to anything and he's gonna be like, I bought some bread today, it was stale.
Guess there was a hole in it.
You ever have stale bread?
Put it in the oven.
And we're gonna be like, what?
brett dasovic
No, the funny thing would be like he finds out later he's really good at telling those types of jokes, and all he had to do is get away from the political stuff to do.
phil labonte
Delivery is actually amazing and people.
brett dasovic
The ratings spike super high.
They're like, holy crap, this dude is actually funny when he's not being a dork about politics.
tate brown
Talking about MMs being sexualized and it's ash hit.
brett dasovic
Well, can he just start taking Tucker bits and redoing it?
tate brown
What can you joke about like phone book jokes?
tim pool
Honest question, what can he joke about?
I bet he's gonna joke about you can't you can't even joke about the what was it, the Emmys that just happened?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because that lady went up there and said free Palestine.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
So it's like she said F ice for make a joke about that, because why are you bringing up like your favorite football team around foreign wars and like immigration policy?
Like they're like, that was actually something that I found funny.
I'm like, why like why did you couch like your favorite sports team right next to the really serious issues?
Because these are unserious people.
You could make fun of her.
You actually could, but you don't have the balls to do that because you don't actually want to take on that narrative.
tate brown
She was yeah, she was literally like, go birds, by the way, there's like a genocide going on, and then the money that's going to poor children just crashes through the floor on the right.
brett dasovic
Did you see that part?
That they had a charity clock on there, like if they kept their speeches under 45 seconds, they gave more money to the boys and girls club, but they ended up losing money because none of the celebrities could shut the hell up.
Like eventually, like CBS or whoever it is that hosts is like, okay, well, we'll front the money, but nobody would shut up.
tim pool
Who watches those things?
unidentified
Lamented, tormented and search volume was good on Google.
tim pool
So I guess nobody watched it and then just Googled it in the morning.
brett dasovic
They watched the clips.
They they watch the clip.
Like X is probably where the most views get seen because people watch the stuff clipped out of context.
tim pool
This is crazy because Seth Myers is in trouble.
tate brown
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
He he's still there.
Uh Colbert's show's already canceled, but the look, he's losing was he losing 40 million a year?
brett dasovic
Probably.
tim pool
They're like, we're not gonna renew your contract.
Give them a morality clause exemption to be able to terminate right now.
I bet they will.
Nobody watches his show.
To be to be fair, Colbert and Kimmel get about two million in their ratings, and you might be saying, Tim, it's so many people.
In the key demo, it's like 200,000.
brett dasovic
And yeah, and in the 18 to 49 demo matters less and less these days because there's no 18 to 49 people watching terrestrial television anymore.
tim pool
Well, the the demo matters.
It just it matter it it's just when we when you when you do your ratings, you're gonna count to all of your views across the board, including TV or otherwise.
But the show doesn't even pull in that much on YouTube or other social media.
brett dasovic
No, the the Kimmel actually does pretty crazy numbers on YouTube, like in the billions of views and stuff like that.
That's where they're getting.
tim pool
I mean, his channel has billions of views.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
But what are his videos getting 100k?
brett dasovic
Well, it's it's like when they brought back what's uh John Stewart, right?
He came back because the social media engagement was really good.
tim pool
It's because YouTube puts him on the front page for default.
brett dasovic
Well, yeah, they're they automatically default to all the late night shows.
tim pool
This is massive.
I'm pretty sure YouTube trending is gone.
Because I've like I go to YouTube trends and it's like it just is gone, doesn't load anything anymore.
Maybe maybe that's just my account, but I'm pretty sure I tried on a private browser.
With Jimmy Kimmel no longer having his show, I he's not gonna produce YouTube content.
He's not how's he gonna afford to?
He needs he's gonna he's that's there's no way you make enough money on YouTube for that.
So that's gone.
What's YouTube gonna put on the front page?
brett dasovic
Like what will what channels will just be CNN, regular news channels?
tim pool
I don't I don't think even CNN is getting that much.
I will say when uh when the press conference happened with cash, I did a live stream yes the uh I think it was yesterday or the day before.
And uh I had uh what 40,000 viewers watching.
I was the biggest stream covering the the press conference, and YouTube was not featuring it.
And I'm just like sure thing, I guess they put up a bunch of channels that were getting substantially less because YouTube playing stupid games.
They they desperately want to stop independent news channels from getting a voice.
will tanner
Is it the the um the left's patronage networks have shifted from cable to the tech platforms, particularly YouTube?
Because it used to be like the deal For Kobe are pushing propaganda constantly to his insane audience was that he got the millions of dollars, but that's gone.
So is it now that YouTube is building these people up?
Uh is a way of rewarding them behind the scenes for continuing to push the party line, or uh do you think it's just organic in that regard?
tim pool
Well, say it one more time.
What do you mean?
will tanner
Sorry, though, like uh is it uh is it a uh intentional patronage network where they're trying to boost their their propaganda pushers through YouTube now because cable's dying and this is their way of communicating.
tim pool
YouTube's promoting Jimmy Kimmel because we are told Jimmy Kimmel is mainstream.
You so the people at YouTube largely are liberals, they are told Jimmy Kimmel is the popular, prominent normal thing, so promote that.
It's fake.
Their channels have become psychotic and deranged.
Well, so the funny thing is YouTube saw tremendous success with shows like this seven or eight years ago, and then got attacked by these institutions and panicked.
So YouTube could have had a much much stronger foothold for a long time, but they they panicked over this, censored all of the independent news channels and commentary channels, which ranged from left to right, and then defaulted Fox, MSNBC, and CNN.
And they said, we'll just do that.
brett dasovic
Yeah, they were talking about authoritative news sources pushing away from it.
tim pool
Like so you no longer got recommended my videos.
I was getting massive views, and then they censored me and everybody else.
And to be fair, like my channel still did really, really well, it's still growing, but they locked us out.
It's called the small room, what is it called?
The small room shadow ban.
They lock you so your channel can't grow anymore.
And I believe those sensor locks still exist on this show and and the other channels that I have, which is why I launched a new channel, which now seemingly doesn't have it.
One of the latest videos I did has a tag on it that says hyped.
So it's being promoted massively, and it got 200,000 views and there's 40,000 subscribers.
And they're saying, wow, this must be great content.
Yeah.
Because now they're not censoring.
Now there's a clear victory we won.
Jimmy Kimmel is is is gone.
These late night shows are not popular, they are not mainstream, and the election proved it.
And I think YouTube is now starting to realize there is a new world in digital media, and these channels do not represent the heart and soul of this country.
brett dasovic
And they're relics of how these things are produced.
I mean, the the they have a hundred writers on these shows.
Like when Jimmy Kimmel says, like, I had I said nothing that I have to apologize for, it's like you didn't say anything.
Like a hundred writers said that, and you just parodied whatever the hell you were told.
tate brown
Well, you're seeing like all across the tech space, just this huge can I guess you would call it a containment breach of right-wing thought.
I mean, Elon led the charge with with taking over X, and then I think all these companies realized, oh, there's actually a monetary incentive to just let people like engage with the content they want to.
Because yeah, if you scroll Instagram reels now, you're gonna see like some of the most right-wing edits you've ever seen in your entire life.
And it's massive engagement.
So I think Meta is happy to just sit there and be like, I mean, look, we're in the black.
This is great.
Just let him cook.
will tanner
When once one is a relatively free speech platform where people can go there if you start booting them off, it really, I think what to what to your point disincentivizes the censorship model because they actually can just leave.
tate brown
Well, I mean, like TikTok is like still just kind of the the TOS is still very vague and kind of random who they punish.
So everyone's transitioned to Instagram reels because it's like I mean, it's still bad, but it's it's a little bit more clear.
And you're actually gonna see, you know, you're gonna see real people on there versus TikTok.
The only people that can fly under the radar are just like anonymous people like stealing each other's content.
So, like, yeah, all these companies are realizing, oh, the incentive structures have completely changed around and they're having to get in line.
I think that's in large part due to Elon.
brett dasovic
I mean, meta will still hit the people on Instagram where it's like if you're controversial enough, it'll be like, Are you sure you want to follow this person?
tate brown
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Like it like double checks with you to make sure that that's actually like are you like you could get radicalized if you watch their content.
tate brown
Yeah, but they'll they'll do it's like, yeah, if you're trying to follow like Fox News anchor, but then there'll be like a guy literally posting like the most insane edits you've ever seen in your entire life, and it's like, yeah, follow here's recommended, yeah.
You want to see some more?
So it's like, yeah, they're just they I don't think they really even know what they're doing anymore.
They're just letting everyone cook.
tim pool
Let's jump to the excuse me, let's jump to this story from Rolling Stone from 2023, why cancel culture is good for democracy.
I'm kidding.
It's there though, it's a real story.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Uh the to act as if the left has not only been vocally for cancel culture, they have been the people that were absolutely demanding cancellation of anyone that spoke against the left's narrative.
And to behave as if they haven't, and to be, oh, well, now you now you uh now you support cancel culture, blah, blah, blah.
Again, contextually, this is a totally different animal with with the situation with Charlie Kirk.
This is a murder of an innocent man by a terrorist.
And they're like, how how can you cancel people over supporting terrorism?
It's ridiculous on its face.
tim pool
I'd like to jump to this video of Nick Fuentes.
Because if there is ever anything that proves the large Hadron Collider has fired up and we have uh entered an inverse reality, there are a few stories.
Jimmy Kimmel being fired, Trump designating Antifa, a terrorist organization, and then this video that um to be fair, I can't even tell if these things are AI and any any anymore, but people are saying this is actually Nick Fuentes.
Listen to this.
nick fuentes
Time to wake up, guys.
Some of this, I'll be the first one to say the conspiratard schizo thing, it's getting a little out of control.
unidentified
And that's coming from me.
nick fuentes
I mean, it's like we are truly through the looking glass when Charlie Kirk is assassinated, people blame Israel.
I who fought Charlie Kirk because he was pro-Israel, and being said to are I'm being sad to be covering up that he was killed for this miraculous conversion.
If Ben Shapiro was taken out next, then God forbid, would Israel be behind that too.
I mean, that would be equally ridiculous.
If it was Ben Shapiro on Wednesday, people would be saying Israel did it.
Shapiro was about to become a national socialist.
tim pool
Like, what uh's voice of reason.
I saw this video and someone asked me if it was AEI, and I'm like, honestly, I don't know anymore because Nick Fuentes is like, I was was challenging the Israel narrative on Charlie's assassin, and people say he was covering it up.
Uh I did a I did like a 46 minute breakdown on all these stories where they're claiming that Charlie was fighting with donors, he felt blackmailed.
And um, I'll just say I'll give you the real simple version.
Some of that seems to be half true.
Like there were donors who are concerned about the current state of support for Israel, and Charlie was moderate conservative, so he had similar views to many conservatives, which is I don't know why should we we we should be funding these foreign wars and getting dragged into it.
However, I think it's very obvious to anybody who's ever watched anything from Charlie who was extremely pro-Israel.
So uh I agree with Nick Fuentes on this one in that it is it is ridiculous to assume Israel did it.
And I don't I don't get the the point.
I mean, it's just deflecting from the obvious that far leftists who had a real motive that we've been warning about for some like don't walk away from solving the puzzle, okay?
We've been complaining about the far left threat of violence.
I have been threatened by the far left.
I've never been threatened by Israel, I've never been threatened by Grupers.
It's always the far left.
And so when a guy kills Charlie and the evidence suggests he's a leftist, there are people coming out blaming Israel, and I'm just like, but like by all means, like make like Reagan Israel all day every day.
I don't care.
It's it's I care about as much as I care about Burma.
But it is weird they blame it for everything, to the point where even Nick Fuentes of all people are saying, guys, chill out.
But you know, I agree.
I agree, Nick.
will tanner
In the diffusion of political force that the whole conspiracy thing he's talking about represents is a major problem because this is our opportunity to take on the radical violent left that you're speaking about.
And to do that, we have to develop a schwerpunkt to a point of force, um, and uh overwhelming force to do so.
Not violent force, just political force and political will to do it.
And if everyone's off with their own personal pet theory about what went on uh in despite the evidence that this was clearly an antifa related operation, I uh that's a major mistake that will limit our ability to do anything productive, much less what directly needs to be done and will be very difficult to accomplish, even if we keep our focus intact.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean, like you have people that have been on the same tangent, like they were saying the same stuff eight days ago, and then they just like reapply it to this horrible tragic situation.
And all they're doing in the process is just letting the left off the hook.
That's all that's happening here.
It's like he said, like, what what are we even talking about here?
Like, why why like like you're saying, we have we now have a moment, we now have the potential to really crack down on these people that have been tormenting us for all these years.
And then they these people are just going off on bunny trails that aren't gonna go anywhere, and then like there's overwhelming evidence this guy was, you know, left-wing, you know, Antifa alignment and yeah, they're just completely letting him off the hook with this nonsense I'm just like guys what like what are we doing here it's almost you almost get suspicious like are you running cover for the left at this point you gotta you have to start asking yourself that question yeah I mean I do I do wonder how many people are actually uh yeah running cover for the left because it does seem like there's that motivation I I mean I
this is probably about as conspiratorial as I get but the idea that this is this is a an op it doesn't sit with me but there are people where it's just like man are are you actually trying to help the left you know I'm like have you ever met a leftist I I legitimately I'm asking people like if if you have an axe to gun at Israel that's one thing but it's like maybe you just never met a leftist that like realize that no they actually hate you they actually want to kill you.
This is not beyond the pale for them.
This is how they operate maybe they just haven't met a leftist because this is when as soon as this happened I was like yeah okay it's kind of obvious what's happened here.
serge du preez
Yeah and it's crazy Jewish people.
phil labonte
Yeah I wonder if they're meant to do in their whole life you know there's a lot of people that are you know you see you see it on the timeline the whole like the people that are so conspiracy brain that they're just like well oh you know was there was there another shooter or was this actually shot from behind or whatever.
There are a couple people that do it.
And just pointing out look nowadays there are people that are so uh so sure or so so determined to not get fooled by the government because the government does lie.
Right I'm not saying that the government doesn't lie they they definitely send misinformation out do do whatever they can to promote the narrative that they want they do lie.
But there are so many people that are determined to not be you know conned by the government again that they will believe anything just so long as the government doesn't said it didn't say it.
And you can see that by the people that say, I used to believe in UFOs and then the government said they have UFOs.
Now I don't believe in UFOs anymore.
That's really what happens.
brett dasovic
It's kind of a natural reaction of what's happened after the institutions fell, right?
phil labonte
Exactly.
brett dasovic
Nobody believes that the colleges anymore.
Nobody believes the government anymore.
And they shouldn't.
It's completely reasonable.
unidentified
Exactly.
brett dasovic
The lack of trust and authority means that you have to look for it elsewhere.
And unfortunately, that leads you down dark paths if you don't have the time to go actually investigate all of this stuff.
You're going to kind of, it's like not being able to see the forest of the trees.
phil labonte
The real conspiracy is sometimes the government tells the truth.
brett dasovic
truth.
That's dangerous sometimes things are just what they seem and it's just in today's day and age nobody wants to be a fool.
phil labonte
Yeah that's that's the point.
The like no there were so many people that got conned by COVID and so many people bought into it and then you the the you hear the way that people are talked about if they did get bought if they did get conned or if they did believe it they're like well I don't want that to happen.
So they'll believe anything and everything just so long as it's the the not the narrative that the government's uh trying to put forward and there's one more thing that I'll say about this the worst people in the world are the people that will not only will believe anything at all but then sit there and act like they're er act arrogantly towards others about it.
If you're just like I don't know man I don't know I don't believe anything because blah blah blah that's one thing.
But when you're just like oh you're so stupid because you believe the blow you this you believe the earth is round what a moron you are you know it's like Shane Cashman is is the perfect example.
He does he's skeptical about everything but he's never condescending he's never rude he never treats people badly about about different beliefs and like he believe he doesn't even believe clouds are real.
brett dasovic
You know I think Dean Hagland he's on the X-Files back in the day was on a podcast once he said the problem with being a conspiracy theorist is if you're right all you get to say is I told you so.
Literally that's really like all is like everything the worst possible thing imagines the government covers up the worst thing you've ever thought of in the entire world turns out to be right and all you get to say is I was right.
will tanner
Well and another thing is I think a lot of this is the like need for politics to be entertainment.
Yeah it's not that this is a serious moment.
A serious moment requiring serious political thought and doing things that will have long term repercussions and need to be dealt with with that in mind.
It's instead no no I want to be entertained by some nonsense I made up and to be entertained I'm gonna continue just coming up with things and pushing things that aren't serious and I think that's a huge mistake.
tate brown
Well and to be fair to these people like we're coming out of the Biden winner we're coming out of the Obama years so it's like they kind of have been trained and and rewarded in in many aspects to be like eternal contrarians.
serge du preez
Well, just like gaslet.
tate brown
Or gas.
So they're not they're not used to the fact that we have like the most right wing administration, probably in our lifetimes.
Um, certainly in my lifetime.
And so it's like I I do give these people a bit of grace because yeah, they they came out of a environment where like being a contrarian was actually usually the best way forward.
But um, yeah, this is we're in a different paradigm.
Again, a leftist, the the person they have is you know, clearly a leftist with the evidence presented.
tim pool
It's stay stay off threads, everybody.
tate brown
Oh my gosh.
tim pool
I went on threads, and it's just um or blue sky.
If I could explain uh with a sound, it's that's that's the sound of all of these posts.
Pictures of Jimmy Kimmel.
Here's one.
Are you kidding?
Imagine if this happened when Biden was present to a Fox News host and they said that about Pelosi's husband.
Imagine.
Oh, I think this person's actually making fun of them.
tate brown
One of our guys is on there, brave soul.
tim pool
Being against Antifa, literally by definition means you are pro-fascism.
tate brown
Oh, they do that thing where they show like the into the jaws of death picture from D-Day, and they're like, This is what Antifa look like.
And I'm like, ask one of those gentlemen what they would think about blue hair dye.
tim pool
Well, we'll get their reactions.
We're the good guys, and that's a proper noun.
I I have coined the term good guys, and I'm gonna create a flag for a symbol of good guys, and we will be called the good guys.
And so literally, if you oppose the good guys, you're the bad guys.
Yeah, that's how it works.
That would so all of these yeah, all these people who are saying that uh good guys are bad means they're the bad guys.
That proves it.
tate brown
Yeah, sorry, guys.
Libs owned.
unidentified
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70s says maybe Jimmy can learn to code.
Perhaps he could.
I think he's a little too old, but maybe now with vibe coding, who needs to, right?
Raflo says, I have I haven't liked Kimmel since he left the man show.
Good reddance to him.
I don't wish him death, but hopefully he ends up destitute like he wanted all of us to be.
brett dasovic
And still watch Adam Corolla, Though.
tim pool
Where does he go?
Where does Jimmy what does Jimmy Kimmel do?
I mean he's rich.
brett dasovic
Starts his own YouTube channel or a podcast.
That's what they all do.
They all start podcasts.
tim pool
Yeah.
Mito says Grocks states construction on the White House ballroom began 9125.
Just have to ask it non-political questions to get a straight answer.
There you go.
Making sense with Mikey says, Tim, it's as you predicted, they use AI to clip out the word not from the phrase, not very well.
So my prediction for AI videos is uh for those that are not familiar, some of you may be.
When Trump said they were very fine people on both sides, and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis of the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.
I'm not afraid of them making an AI video.
There's one recently of Trump, and he's like, the far left are gonna be crushed.
They're bad people, and everyone's like, oh, but that's clearly AI.
The scarier thing is when they change when Trump says they should be condemned totally to some should be condemned totally.
So the qu so then you see a video of Trump saying they were fine people on both sides, and I am not talking about the white nationalists or the neo-Nazis, because some should be condemned totally.
The liberals will see the some statement, believe it's true, it's impossible to debunk, and they'll say he was defending them.
Look, he said only some should be condemned.
And then you'll be like, No, he's a they, and no one will know.
And someone who's there, who have a false memory and be like, I'm pretty sure he said some, and they'll go see he was there.
And that that's the terrifying reality of AI video, and it's getting better.
AI video is getting better every day.
It is creepy.
AI music, too.
Yikes.
Taiwan cricket says love the center, hate the sin is about the most anti-Bible concept there is.
Is it?
tate brown
Love the center, hate the sin.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Yeah, love the center, hate the sin.
Yeah, that's it's biblical.
phil labonte
Isn't it anti-bibe?
That was the whole point of like Jesus hanging out with with whores and like you know, like all of the basically all of the apostles were terrible before they started following Christ.
tate brown
Yeah, if he hated the center and the sin, I mean, we'd all be in a bit of trouble, I think.
Because we're all we're all still sinners.
We like even if you're Christian.
tim pool
Mason M93 says if South Park were still South Park, Cartman would be shot in the neck, Stan would become a Nazi in anger, and Kyle would cry about there being a worse one.
Uh I don't know if I agree completely.
We haven't seen something so egregious.
I mean what since South Park has existed, have we seen anything like this?
brett dasovic
Did you see that Charlie Charlie Sheen called what happened to Charlie Kirk, the JFK of our generation?
And even that I don't know if I believe because we live in a time where we're so bifurcated and so polarized that there is no like before, like we were talking about earlier, the toppling of the institutions, people had general faith in the government at that time.
So it was uh there was a collective consciousness around the country that mourned what happened because we still had faith in our institutions, and we don't have that anymore.
I don't know if there is such a thing as a JFK incident in the age we live in anymore because people are so divided.
tate brown
Well, and then the Kirk thing is beyond a is beyond a physical government institution.
It's the institution of civil discourse.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tate brown
That was that's what was under attack, and I think that's why it's particularly horrifying.
Because yeah, it's it's gone beyond like a three-letter agency that we've lost faith, and we've lost faith in like the foundation, I mean the culture of free speech.
tim pool
We got Jessica Poseidon, these uh blue sky are the I don't know if this is blue sky or X or whatever.
America has become a full-blown fascist state in under a year.
Trump and his thugs now have three more years to build out state media.
Not by chance that Vance jumped into Kirk's podcast seat the other day.
Next star is also part of the state media plan and Jimmy Kimmel both revenge and a warning.
And I'm just like, I don't I just don't care anymore.
Just okay, Trump, be a fascist, whatever.
Like, I'm so sick of the left.
They the it you you you you're sitting in a room and you fart and they start screaming and bashing their face on the table screaming at you offended them, and I'm like, Mike, just shut up.
phil labonte
Look, look at it like this.
If your option is be targeted by the left or empower the government to arrest those people, I'm going to choose empower the government to arrest those people every single time.
This isn't this isn't like, oh, it's not a big deal.
Like Charlie Kirk had done nothing wrong, and they murdered him because some crazy dude that I almost said something bad that was in love with a with a a trans person, like decided that he needed to kill Charlie Kirk because Charlie Kirk would have said something as horrible as you're a man.
tate brown
Well, and also what Vance doing a live stream is f I mean, what is the fireside chats like propaganda like Ash's propaganda now?
Like, what are we doing here?
will tanner
If the if the Trump of the left's fever dreams existed, there would be no more left.
tate brown
Real.
phil labonte
Look, at the end of, like I said, at the end of the day, they're targeting conservative pundits.
They're literally murdering people.
If my choice is get murdered or empower the government to arrest the people that are doing the murdering, it's not hard.
And every single person in the world would make the same kind of you know, result with this with the equation.
brett dasovic
And all of these people, I guarantee you they all cheered on Alex Jones losing a 1.5 billion dollar lawsuit.
tim pool
Yeah.
I got I gotta tell you, uh Phil, I actually disagree.
If you go to a uh there's a large portion of people on the right, where if you said far leftists are arming up and heading towards your house to kill you, you can choose the government to protect you or on your own, they'd walk into their room, grab a bunch of guns, throw a rifle to their buddy, and be like, let's ride.
unidentified
I don't want to talk about that stuff.
phil labonte
Listen.
TOS violations are a real thing.
And I ain't that guy.
tim pool
I gotta read this.
Justin G says, Hi Tim, the Cato Institute posted an analysis claiming violence on the right is more prevalent.
Can you explain how institutes use overbroad classification tactics?
Your streams have helped me recognize this deception.
Uh all you gotta do to understand this is look up the definition of a mass shooting, and you'll find 15 different definitions.
Then, based on the definition you agree with, you can get the answer you want.
So in most of these assessments, they exclude uh black black people.
And so, like in Chicago, Baltimore, in St. Louis, in DC, they won't include those mass shootings, and they'll go, oh, well, no one really means that.
And I'm kind of like, dude, I don't care what the race of the guy is.
If he takes a Glock or whatever, if he gets a switch and he pulls up to a family barbecue and sprays down 13 people, that's a mass shooting.
But they go, oh, but oh.
And so they do there's a variety of tactics you can use.
So subjective definitions.
A mass shooting is only when a political motive is stated, and then what happens is if the government doesn't release the motive, they won't include it.
So you end up with them saying white supremacy is right wing, despite the fact the most prominent and popular political activists on the conservative side argued for a race neutral country that's not white supremacy supremacy.
That's just literally not.
So how is it right wing?
They just say it.
Go to go to go to any conservative in at CPAC or whatever, and they're 99%, maybe 95, they're gonna be like, I reject all of that stuff.
We don't care about white supremacy or racism, we're not about that.
Our favorite Supreme Court justice is Clarence Thomas.
In fact, I wish Clarence Thomas would clone himself, 12 of them have 50 babies and then dominate.
Like, I gotta be honest.
If you went to a if you went to your average one of the conservative and you asked this to you, if you ask 10 people, you're gonna get nine out of ten, maybe even ten of ten answers.
If you could clone Clarence Thomas, or Clarence Thomas had so many babies and grandbabies that all of Congress, the entirety of the Supreme Court, and the executive branch was all just Clarence Thomas's family.
Would you be in favor of that?
They're gonna be yes.
There's nobody better.
brett dasovic
Now, once you take economic advice from Thomas Sowell.
tim pool
Yeah, right, exactly.
And and the stupid thing is, you know, like we we we we typically don't even have to say those things.
It's only because the left demands it and calls you racist that we're like, what are you talking about?
Like, we don't actually sit here and be like, I like Larry Elder because he's black.
No, we like Larry Elder because he's Larry Elder.
We like Clarence Thomas for being Clarence Thomas.
We also don't like Katanji Brown Jackson.
What is race have to do with it?
Are their ideas good?
So anyway, what they'll do is they'll define right in any way they want and then claim as lots of it.
So I'll do this.
How how about these inner cities?
They're 80, 90% Democrat, right?
That means gang violence is all leftist political violence.
So let's honest questions.
I I'm you know what you guys let decentralized network time.
Timcast Discord or viewers.
How about you guys take a look at all of the crime of the past year and then make a chart where any shooting in a in a predominantly Democrat district area or neighborhood counts as Democrat political violence, and then you can make a chart showing political violence by political party.
What do you think it's gonna show you?
It's gonna be 80% Democrat.
But do I really think that the reason a young guy in Chicago shoots another guy is because they're Democrats?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
It's because they were slighted because they were offended because they're selling drugs or whatever.
But those are the games they play.
unidentified
It's all fake.
tim pool
All right.
Balls are deep says.
If any of you have ever read Camp of the Saints, I suggest you do.
Scary.
What is that?
tate brown
Connor Tomlinson just put a video up breaking down the book, because it's this book that was like completely like banned from everything.
Like you couldn't get it anywhere.
And then now there's a few publishers that are gotten copies and that are selling copies online.
I mean, you could probably give a great breakdown.
will tanner
Yeah, it's a warning tale about mass migration.
At the time was set in France of the near future, and there's a horde of I think they're from the India from India.
Yeah, they're from India descending upon the West to pillage it, essentially, and uh take advantage of social services while committing crimes.
And they get there and there's no one in the governmental apparatus that's willing to fight back against them, except for a few Christians and uh one old aristocrat.
And so they do this last stand where they try and fight this just overwhelming horde of humanity that's crashing across the border, and well, it's a dire book.
tate brown
So yeah, and the the funny part is the the horse.
tim pool
Well, just based on Rome.
tate brown
Yeah.
Uh well, and the horde is one million people, it says in the book, it's just one million people.
unidentified
And then, do you guys know the story of World of Warcraft?
tate brown
No.
tim pool
I I recommend uh I recommend you you uh look up the story of World of Warcraft.
tate brown
What's the lore?
tim pool
Uh so there's a there's a I'll give you the really really overtly simple version.
But uh there's a planet, it's called Azaroth, and there are humans and there are elves.
And uh uh one day a horde bursts through of angry orcs and starts cutting down trees, trampling, taking over, settling.
And uh I think the very original story of Warcraft was that the orcs came through a great portal, the dark portal, and then started taking over Azaroth and the humans had to repel them and fight back.
The story evolved quite dramatically to be that uh there is a fell, dark energy that possessed the orcs.
The orcs were actually um shamanic people, they were tribal and not crazy.
But the gist of the story basically is that a horde of orcs come through a portal and start taking over, you know, Ezra and go to war.
will tanner
Camp of the Saints is where the the quote you see all over X comes from, where it's your universe has no meaning to them, they will not try to understand, they will be tired, they'll be cold, they'll make a fire with your beautiful oak door.
Right.
Yeah.
tim pool
Oh, it but it's but it's true.
And it's not uh I I would say this.
It is not denigrating to group of people to suggest that they would eat cats or dogs.
And I I think it's actually offensive that liberals get offended by it.
When liberals were like, How dare you accuse them of eating cats and dogs?
And I'm like, have you ever been anywhere on the world to eat roaches too?
unidentified
Yeah, right?
tim pool
Bugs are food, and Americans get all woo-ooh about it.
And I'm like, well, you know, they don't taste that good, but if they come from the ocean, bugs are delicious.
If they're on land, bugs are no good.
Uh and then they get offended that we would suggest they'd eat cats.
I'm like, bro, animals are animals, like people people all over the world eat whatever they can get their hands on.
They eat dogs in Southeast Asia, and they don't care.
They're not a like if you went to like a Vietnamese guy and be like, hey, you eat dog, he'd be like, Yes.
Yeah.
Okay.
And you eat chickens, and if you go to India, they'll be like, ha, you eat cows.
And we'll be like, we do, and we love them.
They'll be like, oh, that's ridiculous.
phil labonte
Talking about eating dogs makes me want to do TOS violations as well.
tate brown
Well, and we're eating, we're drinking slop water over here, so we are we much better?
Are we much better off?
tim pool
Slop butter.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tate brown
Yeah.
Ah, they're probably they're probably in Haiti, like they eat like can you believe it's not butter?
They eat that.
phil labonte
Oh, bro.
They don't eat humans.
frank turek
They're like barbecue's like.
tim pool
It is in Haiti, they're like, look what they eat.
It's I can't believe it's not butter.
And they're like, what isn't like we don't know?
It's like plastic.
unidentified
And they put it on bread, and they're like, oh, and they're eating butter.
phil labonte
I was gonna say mud cookies, they eat those in Haiti, which is incredible.
tim pool
What do they do?
It's like a little bit of salt and sugar, yeah, and they butter.
phil labonte
And they boil the mud so that way, like there's not stuff that'll kill you in it anymore.
tate brown
Excellently with Siamese cat.
tim pool
Yeah, they're mud cookies.
It's It's it's it's it's like a little butter, sugar, and salt in mud.
So there is some calories to it, and it will make the hunger pang stop.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
But you're eating dirt.
Hey, I I I read that soil does have nutritional value, though.
It's just like humans can't really survive off of it.
tate brown
Bader O'Rourke love soil.
He ate a lot of it.
tim pool
I I bought this book that's like how to restart civilization, and it talks about how to eat leaves.
And uh it's really cool.
It's really cool.
phil labonte
I thought you just unplugged it and plugged it back in.
tim pool
The book?
phil labonte
No, how to restart civilization.
tim pool
Ah, yeah, it's really cool.
It's got like all the basics of uh I I got an ad for it on Instagram because they were like, Tim, we know who you are.
And you know, they do.
And so I bought it.
And uh like the way you eat leaves is you're supposed to like take a leaf, rip it, rub it on your skin, wait 10 to 15 minutes, then you rub it on the side of your lip, wait 10 to 15 minutes, then you bite it, chew on it, spit it out, wait 10 to 15 minutes, then you eat half a leaf, wait a couple hours.
If none of that causes any problems, you eat a little bit, wait a couple hours, and then it's probably safe to eat.
Ton of cool stuff in there.
You know, but uh you're probably not gonna get enough nutrition from eating leaves to be completely honest.
phil labonte
Need a second stomach for that.
tim pool
Yeah, might as well just wait for the deer to come by.
Gotta eat them all.
All right, let's see what we get.
Samuel Rye says, never forget this feeling.
Yep.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim pool
Soul 123 says this is brutal, but needs to be shared all over the internet.
The left is psychotic and evil.
We cannot coexist with them anymore.
They are evil.
Yeah, that video uh from um that was posted from uh Frank uh Turk, I think was it was his name?
tate brown
Yep.
tim pool
One of uh uh that's that's one of Charlie's real good friends, and it's a horrifying video.
And that's why it's unacceptable.
Look, Hollywood reporter said Jimmy Kimmel was not going to apologize.
Like we are at a crossroads in this country.
We're we are this is it.
Uh a friend of mine, this is wild to say, someone I've known for decades, posted a video of a woman pointing to an article uh about uh you know Donald Trump.
I I forgot exactly what it was about.
It was some kind of action that he was taking, targeting um, you know, anti fire or something.
And then the next video from the woman, because it was a story was her explaining the Reichstag fire, as if to imply that Donald Trump killed Charlie Kirk intentionally to justify the expansion of his his control in the state.
And so I'm sitting here being like, this is a person I've known for decades who's a good friend of mine, suggesting that my friend was killed by his friends to justify an expansion of a fascist state, which is just absolutely insane.
will tanner
Well, also the communists actually did set the Reichstag on fire.
Which, you know, they still did it.
Should we let them burn down Congress just because it would be mean to stop them?
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Also just remember the person who's pointing that, like everybody that they know is gonna be like, and you're a conspiracy theorist.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
All right.
The real you know, actually, I want to say something real quick.
You know, as film makes comments about TOS violations.
Good luck, YouTube.
Your TOS, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, whatever, will not exist in a civil war state.
Impossible.
The you look at the troubles in in Northern Ireland.
There is no way to operate a social media platform that coexists with with these two groups.
Because they are both justifying and celebrating the death of each other.
So what do you do?
You you open up Twitter and it's everyone with big fake smiles.
It's kind of like everything's fine, and then you look out the window and a bomb goes off.
Your social media platform will not work when you have two distinct moral worldviews.
Because I can put it like this.
You can go on social media and express a universal evil is evil because everyone agrees.
Where there is a bifurcation is when you get into trouble.
The TOS violations largely center around the political views of the people in control of the platform.
They are this is what Jack Dorsey argued.
The reason why they banned misgendering was because certainly literally everybody agrees it's wrong.
And then I was like, No, they don't.
Conservatives have an inverted worldview.
They think misgendering is if you call a man a woman, not their preferred pronoun.
And and Dorsey was flabbergasted.
He these people genuinely thought the rules they set were the majority of the country.
And the people who are complaining were the fringe weirdos.
When you have an active civil war type scenario, what do you do?
How you can Enforce the terms of service.
phil labonte
I imagine you kind of don't, I guess.
I mean, well, unless you I I assume because of the way that um the way that civil wars generally behave is the companies will align with whoever the government is seeing is right.
tim pool
In in indeed, in which case, perhaps they just start banning all the leftists because Trump is in power.
Maybe Kimmel got fired.
But I'll put it like this.
Did anybody get banned from social media for celebrating the death of Solomone?
phil labonte
No, no.
tim pool
That's right, because they're enemy combatants at war.
Even though Donald Trump launched a drone strike on a guy, I think it was a drone strike, right?
In he was in it, he was in Iraq, I believe.
Uh, and then people all across social media celebrated it.
Twitter didn't ban anybody.
Facebook didn't ban anybody.
They said whatever.
So what happens when you're an active civil war and you have the same scenario?
I suppose you're right.
If Trump is in power and he has the color of law underneath his belt, then they'll just start banning the left.
And that is a massive weapon for the administration.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
I I don't see how the left can win without communications.
phil labonte
Well, I mean I don't know well, considering the makeup of the left in the United States, I agree.
Um they're not particularly capable when you see the threads of what they're gonna do after the collapse or whatever, it's all like, you know, give each other massages and and I'm gonna own a farm and whatever kind of, you know, I'm gonna write cat boy poetry or whatever.
You know, um so I don't imagine that these people are particularly prepared for any kind of kinetic conflict in reality, you know.
tate brown
You even saw at Chaz in Seattle where they tried to like start a garden, but they just put like soil on top of the cardboard and so like uh they're they're cooked.
tim pool
Man, you have you ever seen the uh when they gave the spider various drugs to see what it would do?
They took they they took a spider or multiple spiders and they gave them different drugs, and they're like, here's a normal spider web, and it's beautiful.
Then they were like, here's when we give it meth, and it's all like just big thick straight lines.
They're like, here's here's caffeine, and it's just like two lines across.
And they were like the drugs had profound effects on the spider.
That's how I feel when I see the Chaz Chop farm.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It was like take a human, give them a bunch of drugs and and weird mental disorders, and that's how they try to farm.
The aliens watching were like, that's sad.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
It's like behavioral sink.
brett dasovic
I feel that way about a lot of like all the discourse that we see with everything going on in the world, like, how much is it actually affected by people are just on all a cocktail of uppers, downers, antidepressants, you know, as somebody who has been through all of that, like a lot of people these days, they're just not living life with a clear head, and it makes the world a much, much different place.
tim pool
Josh says, Tim, we all need to take a step back and chill.
Maybe you don't realize it, but we just won and the public wants unity.
And the public will get unity when the terrorists who are engaging in acts of violence are stopped.
The public wants unity agreed.
A man was just murdered.
How do we get it?
When far left rioters who burn down cities for the better part of 15 years are brought to justice, and people feel like we have some semblance of peace.
But if Trump just says, You're right, you want unity, I'm backing off, the left will come back with a vengeance and they'll kill more people.
They're already threatening to kill many, many more people, including myself.
The only way to get that unity that the public wants, and I agree I want it too.
Like I always say, nobody should want war.
War is a nightmare.
What I want is to kick back on my couch, put my feet up, order some hot wings, put on a a poker match or something from WPT, or maybe we'll play some video games and I'll enjoy some nice wings with my buddies and we'll talk, you know, about games or whatever.
The the simplest of surface level luxuries.
Maybe you like football and you want to talk about the crazy parlays you've got planned out and you do John FanDuel, whatever.
Awesome.
Let's go, baby.
How do we get there?
Well, the people who are stabbing, bombing, shooting need to be arrested and taken off the streets, so the violence stops.
That means Trump's gonna have to enforce the law against them, and then we might get some peace.
And I'm gonna say it.
The left is trying to create this this this world where they're like, if the National Guard are deployed, it's a nightmare.
No, if the National Guard are deployed and they start pushing people around and unjustly searching and stealing your stuff and and forcing money from your pockets, that's a nightmare.
The National Guard walking around happens literally all the time, and they don't cause problems.
So there's a difference between deploying law enforcement and corrupt law enforcement.
Now I understand the libertarian fear that if you have National Guard up for too long, eventually you will get corruption.
For the short duration, I'm not so sure that I'm worried about that right now because the alternative is dying.
I'd prefer not not to.
I've uh grown quite fond of living.
will tanner
So also the framing on that is, I think, incorrect.
We didn't win.
We were given a martyr, sadly, whose death might enable us to win by, as you said, cracking down on the people who want to kill us.
You can't unify with someone who's pointing a gun at your head.
tim pool
And you know what's what's terrifying is that um the left succeeded by pushing the line slowly.
That's how they were gaining ground consistently because it was scary enough to where you don't want to fight them, but they weren't massacring people.
Then this guy killed Charlie Kirk, a moderate guy, a debater, and it's terrified everybody.
They they pushed too hard and the line broke.
And now Trump is like, that's it.
You have pushed too far.
So I say, fine, let's get some law enforcement.
But my friends, we're gonna go to that uncensored members only portion of the show, which is going to get hot.
And that is an understatement.
Because of this designation of Antifa, there's a lot we need to discuss.
And we want to take it to a uh platform on Rumble, so uh where we can have freeform discussion without fear of censorship or reprisal.
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It's extremely important because communication is the most powerful tool in any conflict, and that's a fact.
Crazy.
The stories of human communication in warfare is really awesome.
Drums, trumpets, then radios, satellites, hidden letters and jackets on motorcycles.
Communications is key.
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How about you, sir?
You want to shout anything out?
will tanner
Yeah, uh, if you are interested in this sort of thing or colonial history, check me out on Substack.
It's the American Tribune.news.
I uh write about stuff like this all the time and post about it on Twitter.
Um, but I think you'd find it enjoying or enjoyable and interesting, even if it's about depressing and sad subjects like this.
tate brown
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Give me a follow there.
brett dasovic
Guys, if you want to follow me, I am on X and Instagram at Brett Dasivik on both of those platforms.
But what you should do is check out Pop Culture Crisis.
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See you there.
phil labonte
I am Phil that remains on Twix.
I'm Phil that remains official.
No, I'm not.
Not anymore.
I'm uh you can follow the band all that remains on YouTube, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, and Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool
You're not Phil That Remains anymore?
phil labonte
No, I know well, not Phil that remains official on Instagram.
I'm not, I don't have the instagram anymore.
tim pool
So all right, everybody.
Uh again, we'll see you all uh at Rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Thanks for hanging out.
Thanks for hanging out.
tim pool
I love that the Discord is like unusual join activity because so many people are signing up for the Discord.
You guys rock.
Do you get do you see that, Serge?
It's like there's too many people that are signing up to join the Discord server.
It's like, no, that's all right.
We appreciate it.
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And if you want to join, you see that you see it says IRL live on the screen.
That is our Discord chat, which is active 24-7.
And you can actually call in.
Uh call into the show.
And so uh what we're gonna do is we're gonna talk about some real fucked up shit and we're gonna swear, not so family friendly.
CBS News, three police officers killed, two wounded in York County, Pennsylvania, shooting suspect dead.
So it's a horrifying story, but I'm just gonna say it again.
Wow.
phil labonte
Is that yeah, that's the car accident.
tim pool
That was the car accident?
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
Wow.
phil labonte
Fuck holy shit.
He must have been going a hundred miles an hour.
tim pool
Um, I can't believe that I was watching the news and I saw a press conference about the about this, and I was like, I I walked in after taking after uh taking a shower, and I I walk in the living room and there's a TV, and I'm like, whoa, what the fuck is going on?
And I'm like, I see a press conference and I'm like, whoa, what?
unidentified
What?
tim pool
This is this is what civil war looks like.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
When you turn on the news and every other story is about some kind of bombing, shooting, conflict crisis.
phil labonte
The the police like there were five officers involved in this, so or or more, but three killed, two wounded with only one suspect.
That police, like that specific um that police force, they they really need to work look at the their training.
Like three police officers shouldn't die taking on one suspect.
Like they should.
I don't know that the you know the the context surrounding it, so I can't say, oh, this happened or that happened.
But if you've got three cops, like this guy shouldn't have been able to take out three cops.
And and wound two more, you know.
tim pool
So uh all over threads right now.
Actually, can I pull up threads?
unidentified
Well, that like how do you how do you go to threads?
tim pool
Threads.com is that oh, it is.
It's not gonna show them anything though, is it?
Oh, okay.
phil labonte
Actually, it's good because you've got a Tim get Tim Pool.
tim pool
Yeah, but I can't fucking log in.
unidentified
Um I'm just this is like you what?
tim pool
Oh, there's nothing here.
It's just when you uh when you pull it up, it's all really generic non-political stuff.
And for oh, here's Midas Touch from six hours ago.
Trump admin officials are pressuring federal prosecutors in Virginia to indict Letitia James, blah, blah, blah.
Okay.
Uh if you so when I go on, it's nothing but politics.
And of course, they're saying what you'd expect them to say, which is Donald Trump has just made it illegal to oppose fascism.
So uh that's a huge, huge step up and escalation.
What do you guys think?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, it's ridiculous.
Like making it the idea that Antifa are exists to oppose fascism is ridiculous.
They exist to oppose any form of government save communism.
Like they exist to oppose international borders.
They exist to oppose any type of uh I mean, basically any type of property rights.
They exist to to oppose everything that makes a functional society possible.
tim pool
They're calling for boycotts.
There's a bunch of of ABC, Hulu, and Disney.
I I don't think they they realize the that that Marvel is more popular than your fucking politics guy.
brett dasovic
And I can't I can't because the first episode of High Potential season two just came out on Hulu, and I have to watch that when I get home.
I can't boycott right now.
tim pool
I know, and I like to watch seasons one through nine of The Simpsons, and that's only on Hulu.
Hulu is the best of all the actually it's not, it's on Disney Plus and not Hulu, which is weird.
tate brown
A soilennial boycott of Disney World could probably demoralize the entire movement be.
tim pool
Who owns Harry Potter?
Warner Brothers?
brett dasovic
Warner Brothers.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
So what network is that is oh oh wait, wait, wait, aren't they gonna buy it?
brett dasovic
Uh no, there was uh what was it that was Paramount was gonna put in an update?
tim pool
Wait, wait, you think these soy jacks are gonna are gonna stop watching Star Wars?
tate brown
They they can't watch they Star Wars Star Wars than fight fashion.
tim pool
Oh, that's funny they canceled the Echo Light.
They were like lesbian space which has made the force.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And then wasn't there a scene?
I didn't watch it, but I saw a meme where like I watched a person the the lightsaber turned red.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tim pool
Like when you become evil, the lightsaber changes color.
brett dasovic
As somebody who doesn't care about Star Wars, that was uh that was a rough one to watch.
unidentified
Ridiculous.
tim pool
What was it?
Was it the lesbian space, which is that gotcha?
tate brown
It was you're we're presenting him a paradigm.
You can either have a fascist government or you can have the Mandalorian.
And I think they're gonna pick the Mandalorian.
I don't think I don't think they're actually down for the cause.
The soilennials.
tim pool
Well, like most of the soy guys are like, bro, I was just trying to get laid.
I don't want to fucking go to jail.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Well, yeah, they see it's all of the the dinks going to the Disney parks.
They're not gonna boycott.
tim pool
The dinks.
brett dasovic
The dual income no kids, if you don't know what that means.
tim pool
We're dinks.
We can do whatever we want.
unidentified
Uh do you guys think killing off their bloodline happily?
tim pool
I imagine Antifa is gonna react.
Uh there I I imagine that Antifa is gonna have massive recruits now.
Like, it's not gonna be I here's what I think.
Here's the body politic.
Trump says antifa terror, and so you've got the right and the left.
The right's gonna encompass more of the more liberal leaning people, but of those that are like staunch liberal, they're gonna join Antifa.
So I I imagine it like if if this country is 50-50 Democrat Republican, it's it's like kind of not.
It'll be 60 40, 60% Republican, with liberals leaning Republican or at least siding with Republicans, and then of that 40%, a large portion will join the far left.
brett dasovic
Of which part uh can you say it again?
Of which part?
tim pool
So if the country right now is 50-50 left and right, Democrat Republican You said staunch liberals joining the far left.
Yes.
brett dasovic
Okay.
tim pool
So that means people who are in the middle of a left quadrant.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
So they are like maybe voting for AOC, but couldn't tell you what the fuck communism really was.
They will start going to antifa meetings and being like, how do I wear a mask and what do I do?
And then meanwhile, the more middle of the road default libs are gonna be like, I'm with Trump.
This is fucking this is fucked up.
But that means you'll have an increase in lunatics dressing in all black, causing problems.
This is why I was predicting yesterday, in one year, there will be another high profile political assassin of some assassination of someone on the right.
Now, again, I say that but that's about six or seven percent probability based on all the variables from now to then, creating an expon a diminishing return, exponential rate of failure.
But looking at what we're seeing now, I think the reason for that is because it'll be before the midterms.
I think that this is gonna heavily favor Republicans in the midterms.
The the left is gonna overreact to this.
Antifa will overreact to this.
It will cause problems for the perception of the left, emboldening people to vote Republican.
In their desperation, they've already killed Charlie Kirk.
That means moving forward, conversation is not working for them.
The threat of force isn't working for them.
They will escalate their tactics to just kill the guy who's leading the charge against us, which is where we already are.
When the midterm's coming up, they are not going to be winning, and Trump's gonna be like, we got great numbers, and when we get Congress, we're gonna remove them all.
And then these Antifa guys are gonna be like, we have no choice.
We are about to be destroyed.
We have no choice.
And then it's gonna take it all takes is one crazy guy.
There'll be another assassination, and then what happens is this will cause a 10-12% spike for Republicans, entrenching a supermajority of some or strong majority.
I do believe there is a 94% chance that does not happen.
It is a very low probability, I'm probability I'm giving it.
I'm saying that based on the current circumstances as of today, and this only leans into my theory.
brett dasovic
Are you saying it's gonna be somebody in the political space or somebody in the commentary space?
Because when you say I understand when we say political assassination, it's because Charlie Kirk.
tim pool
It's gonna be a prominent it it could be both.
Okay.
Anybody high profile who organizes and rallies people on the right.
The left is already desperate.
They are losing.
They've lost institutional power.
Their TV shows don't control shit anymore.
The Democrats are fucking wiped, like the I mean like Hillary Clinton types are wiped out.
And so I I think right now the trajectory that we have before us is increased desperation culminating in a pre-midterm strike out of fear that the Republicans are going to get entrenched and win, which actually will have that effect.
However, a meteor can fucking slam into the ocean tomorrow, so who knows what the fuck.
Or Trump could have uh, you know, could have a heart attack, or uh J.D. Vance could resign.
I I have no fucking idea.
brett dasovic
You're you're more up on this than I would be, but isn't Zorin Mamdani doing really, really well in the polls over in New York?
Isn't he kind of is is he just the outlier then?
phil labonte
No, he's doing he's doing really well, but it um but not was it yeah, Eric Adams is t has been talking about dropping out.
tate brown
No, he he he's he double.
phil labonte
He's refusing he double down.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, he was like, I ain't joining Trump.
Yep.
will tanner
Well, I think you asked why they're pushing this fascist messaging about you can't fight fascism now or whatever.
It's the old Olinskia, you have to sharpen the distinctions.
So amongst their followers, amongst the people who are paying attention, are you a fascist?
Are you gonna go along with it?
Or are you an actual anti-fascist where you're gonna do these things, what you're describing, whether it's hurling D-Cell batteries at random conservatives, whether it's ambushing cops, whether it's murdering a political figure, it's all part of that in terms of uh trying to foist revolution on the country by pushing people into it and getting them to think about oh no, you're like in World War II or whatever, fighting fascism.
tim pool
Indeed.
Uh let's go to callers.
We're gonna pull in the Gracie, but make sure you guys who are watching on Rumble join Rumble Premium because we're about to go premium exclusive, and uh this is where the conversation gets fun.
And join our Discord if you want to be a caller.
Uh Gracie, what is up?
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Hi, it's a pleasure to speak with you all.
Howdy.
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