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Sept. 18, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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Jimmy Kimmel FIRED, ABC Pulls Show Over Charlie Kirk Assassination Comments | Timcast IRL
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brett dasovic
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phil labonte
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tim pool
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will tanner
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tim pool
ABC has indefinitely polled Jimmy Kimmel live over comments he made about Charlie Kirk's assassination when he painted the shooter as a mega conservative.
And everybody recoiled.
This was not correct.
I mean, the FBI's come out, local law enforcement's come out, the parents gave statements, they've released messages.
This dude was highly motivated by leftist ideology and dating a trans person.
And Jimmy Kimmel, like many of these other liberal podcasters, pushed this lie that the shooter was somehow some Trump-supporting conservative.
Now, there's a chain of events that occurred.
First, the FCC chair appears on Benny Johnson's show, basically saying, you can't do this.
Then we heard that Nexstar, which is basically a local affiliate network, was going to pull the Kimmel show over these comments.
And finally, Disney stepped in and said, enough.
Kimmel, you are done.
That's where we're at so far.
CNN, they are losing their minds.
And I got to be honest, it's hilarious.
And I'm going to explain for you exactly why it's hilarious using the left's own words and their own ideology, which they cannot now claim they don't agree with.
When they canceled and got people, when they got people fired from their jobs because some people said naughty words, and now they're all shocked that the ideology they espoused has come back for them.
Now, I'll admit, I'm a free speech guy.
I'm not going to advocate that people lose their jobs over naughty comments.
However, I'm not going to defend people who are celebrating the death of a good man, a family man who was murdered in front of his own children.
Sorry, go find someone else to defend you.
If you don't believe in free speech and you never did, I'm done playing that game with you.
Now, if you're a leftist and liberal and you've consistently defended free speech, even fighting with the liberals, they wouldn't call you leftists anyway, would they?
So, when they come to me and say, I thought you were for free speech, I am, but you're not, so I'm going to hold you to the standard that you asked for.
Congratulations.
This is the world you've made.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have a lot to break down with this because holy crap, plus there is a lot of other news.
The reaction from CNN is hilarious.
We also have three officers shot and killed in York County PA.
It's getting crazy out there.
We'll go through all that news.
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Lots of news and some updates and information on the Charlie Kirk assassination.
Some of what we're hearing, it's on the ground reporting and stories from individuals who are directly impacted.
And so, what I want to stress is: yeah, we're going to gloat over Jimmy Kimmel.
And then I'm going to show you a statement from a man who is there, and you are going to understand exactly why we are outraged, why we're angered, and why the left, this is what they asked for all those years ago, now coming to bite them in Earth.
And it's what they asked for.
So, again, smash the like button.
Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more.
We got Will Tanner.
will tanner
Hey, Tim, thanks for having me on.
tim pool
Who are you?
What do you do?
will tanner
Yeah, so I started a company with a few business partners called the American Tribune when I was in law school.
And now I've turned that into what people probably know me for.
I'm the Rhodesia guy on Twitter, or at least that's what a lot of people know me as.
But I primarily talk about the South Africanization of America and how these twin trends of race communism and anarcho-tyranny are really destroying what our ancestors built and how Western civilization as we know it is crumbling because of these trends and because of the destruction wrought by them.
And so using lessons from history, primarily Rhodesia, South Africa, the Belgian Congo, which I write about on my sub stack.
That's what people know me for, and it's what I'm trying to teach about so that we can avoid the same fate for ourselves.
tim pool
Interesting.
It'll be fun to talk about all that.
We got producer Tate.
tate brown
What's going on, guys?
Tate Brown here holding it down.
Happy to be here.
brett dasovic
Guys, it's Brett.
It's been a while.
It's been like three weeks.
I'm normally doing Pop Culture Crisis Monday through Friday, 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, but tonight, let's talk politics.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains when anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
From variety.com, ABC polls Jimmy Kimmel live indefinitely after hosts Charlie Kirk comments.
Disney said it would take Jimmy Kimmel's popular late night show off its schedule indefinitely after one of the biggest owners of its TV of TV stations in the U.S., Nexstar Media, said it intended to preempt airings of the program following remarks the host made about the killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk.
Next are said Wednesday that its owned and partner television stations affiliated with ABC Television Network will preempt Jimmy Kimmel Live for the foreseeable future, beginning with tonight's show.
The company said it strongly objects to recent comments made by Mr. Kimmel concerning the killing of Charlie Kirk and will replace the show with other programming in its ABC affiliated markets.
In his monologue Monday night, Kimmel said the MAGA gang was trying to score political points off Kirk's murder.
Now, we know this.
I'm going to play the clip for you, which we've got here.
Daily Wire says this is why his show got pulled.
Just take a listen.
jimmy kimmel
We had some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.
In between the finger pointing, there was grieving.
On Friday, the White House flew the flags at half-staff, which got some criticism.
But on a human level, you can see how hard the president is taking this.
unidentified
My condolences on the law of your friend Charlie Kirk.
May I ask, sir, personally, how are you holding up over the last day and a half, sir?
donald j trump
I think very good.
And by the way, right there, you see all the trucks?
They just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House, which is something they've been trying to get, as you know, for about 150 years.
And it's going to be a beauty.
Yes.
jimmy kimmel
He's at the fourth stage of grief, construction.
Demolition.
unidentified
Construction.
jimmy kimmel
This is not how an adult grieves the murder of somebody he called a friend.
This is how a four-year-old mourns a goldfish, okay?
tim pool
That was insane for a variety of reasons.
One, trying to imply that the shooter was a Trump supporter and then mocking Donald Trump.
Now, I'm going to be asked, I don't think Trump actually heard what the guy said.
It's loud.
There's a helicopter and the guy says, How are you holding up?
And Trump just like gives a generic response.
Yeah, good.
Look what they're doing.
I don't know.
Sounded like he didn't hear what he had to say because Trump's made many statements about this.
Now, here's where it begins: Nexstar Media Group issued this press release earlier today.
Next are ABC affiliates to preempt Jimmy Kimmel live indefinitely beginning tonight.
They said, Mr. Kimmel's comments about the death of Mr. Kirk are offensive and insensitive at a critical time in our national political discourse.
And we do not believe they reflect the spectrum of opinions, views, or values of the local communities in which we are located, said Andrew Alford, president of Nexstar's broadcasting division.
Continuing to give Mr. Kimmel a broadcast platform in the communities we serve is simply not in the public interest at the current time.
And we have made the difficult decision to preempt his show in an effort to let cooler heads prevail as we move toward the resumption of respectful, constructive dialogue.
Now, this also followed statements from the FCC chair on Benny Johnson's show saying, you know, effectively, you know, you can't do things like this, right?
We get some new lows of the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to.
Of course, that's Kimmel's statement.
And this was Brendan Carr appearing on Benny's show, and they describe it as issuing threats against ABC and Disney.
Now, NBC News has responded by saying that ABC pulled the show after the FCC threatened them, as if to make it appear as though the Trump administration got Jimmy Kimmel fired, when actually this was a private business interest that did it.
And I'm going to give you a couple of reasons real quick before we launch into the panel why this is likely the case.
For one, I think Kassan made a great point.
I didn't actually hear him say it, but it was reported in the New York Times that he was concerned about the death of Charlie Kirk because he could be next.
And I think many of these television network execs, seeing the vitriol, are also concerned that if violence escalates, these people at the top of these networks are going, they will be doxxed.
They will be known.
Nobody wants to live that way.
And so if you're running a network and you see Jimmy Kimmel say explicitly, despite the fact law enforcement has already said here's his motivating factors, Jimmy Kimmel says, nah, it was Trump.
It was the MAGA guys.
You are fanning the flames of political violence in a very terrifying and dangerous way.
And mocking Donald Trump, whose friend just died over that clip, which I assume is probably out of context or Trump didn't hear, is despicable.
And I'm sure the networks, aside from being offended, were more so concerned that Jimmy Kimmel was driving the temperature hotter and hotter in an extreme way.
And so I think many of them are like, guys, if we don't put a stop to this and say we are not going to tolerate political violence, it'll escalate.
If we do not punish those who are dancing on the grave and demanding more or lying about this, the left will be emboldened and there will be more death and the right will respond.
There has to be a simmering down of temperatures.
And that's why people are getting fired.
And that's why Jimmy Kimmel got fired.
But I'm curious if you guys agree and what do you think?
phil labonte
I think that that's probably about the size of it.
The idea that this is because of pressure from the government, I think that that's unlikely.
I don't think that Brendan Carr just making a remark is actually enough to make people move because I feel like that there's still a sentiment where if the government says, oh, we might do this, there's still enough people that would feel like pushing back on the government is worth the, you know, it's worth the juice.
Whereas if you're going to look at losing sponsors and losing, you know, people, the higher ups at the company you work for, seeing significant repercussions, that'll get people to move.
That'll get companies to move.
brett dasovic
Yeah, it would be the relationship with Disney and Nexstar that would be the bigger issue here than it would be Disney and the government for that.
And for the most part, what's sad is like, this will end up benefiting Kimmel in the long run because Colbert's ratings spiked after he got canceled, after his show was officially canceled, even though he's still on the air.
His contract has to run out.
And the most profitable aspect of his whole show right now is like their YouTube views are very high.
And I wouldn't be surprised if they end up moving him away from terrestrial television entirely because this is a dying business model.
The ratings in general for late night TV are, me and Tate were talking about it before the show now, are heavily dependent on whether there's sports on television at all these days.
The ratings have been down consistently.
And the funny thing is, Kimmel is number two in the ratings on late night next to Colbert, who's already been canceled because his ratings are garbage.
So everybody knows that this type of television is a dying model anyways.
Why would you fan the flames in something that's so incendiary right now in a world where you hire 100 writers to work on these shows, which is why they cost a fortune to make and they lose money on every episode?
Why with 100 writers could you not find a more palatable way to try to get your point across?
You can't because your point is disgusting.
tim pool
I actually think, you know, as to your point about being second in ratings, we know that Colbert was costing them tens of millions of dollars per year.
I think Kimmel was as well, but they didn't know how to end his contract or they couldn't end his contract.
brett dasovic
It ends next year in 2026.
tim pool
Indeed.
I imagine they were probably saying we're not going to renew it, but we can't do anything right now.
This pops up and not have a morality clause exemption to terminate his contract.
And I'm sure they said, let's pull it.
will tanner
In addition to what you're saying about them not wanting to be associated with this side of things from potential vigilantes, they probably don't want the DOJ related groups to see them as part of the Antifa Soros network that could be getting rolled up or at least investigated.
Because one thing you've seen on Twitter this week is the media companies, the media cable channels being really lumped in with that whole network of NGOs, nonprofits, law firms.
So this could be a way to distance themselves.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait, Serge, is this fact check true?
serge du preez
So he, which is what I was looking at, it looked like it wasn't exactly like I'd seen the footage before.
Basically what he did was he took an old footage of Trump being asked a question and he dubbed over the question as if he had been asked that question.
It's not even the same thing.
And if you watch the footage again, you'll probably see that it seems from a year prior, I believe.
But he dubs over the question kind of poorly that the reverb kind of gives away.
But yeah, I guess you can see it again.
tim pool
Wow, hold on, let's play it.
jimmy kimmel
See how hard the president is taking this.
unidentified
My condulations on the loss of your friend Charlie Kirk.
May I ask, sir, personally, how are you holding up over the last day and a half, sir?
donald j trump
I think very good.
And by the way, right there, you see all the trust.
serge du preez
So wait, from what I'm understanding when I've asked AI about this, from what I understand is that it was from a previous clip.
I don't think that's from the same thing.
They just dubbed the audio.
tim pool
Right, right.
So I don't, that I don't know if I believe that, man.
unidentified
That's a huge canceled.
tim pool
Yeah, like, oh, so Serge asked AI and it said that the clip of Donald Trump originally aired in 2024.
And so what did you ask ChatGPT this right now?
serge du preez
Yeah, basically, I know I asked Rock.
I haven't asked any other AIs.
I just did when I first heard you talk about it.
So I'm trying to figure it out right now.
tim pool
Let's fact check that because that sounds crazy.
serge du preez
Yeah, Kimmel played.
It's what it's telling me is Kimmel played the 2024 clip in the September 16th, 2025 monologue to mock Trump's unrelated response in a hypothetical context.
But he doesn't really make it clear that that's a hypothetical context or anything like that.
Like I did remember.
It sparked accusations of decontextualization from conservative outlets like Fox News and New York Post.
tate brown
I thought I did remember seeing other White House reporters verifying that he said that, but then a lot of them are saying it was so loud and raucous in the area that there's no way Trump could have heard, especially parts out with the conversation.
brett dasovic
They were talking about the White House ballroom, which has been coming.
serge du preez
So I have no idea.
I'm just, yeah.
brett dasovic
The discussion with the White House ballroom has been going on lately, though.
So it's hard to believe that the clip was pulled from before.
serge du preez
Yeah, I don't know.
Like I said, I'm currently.
unidentified
Oh, right.
tim pool
They're doing their renovations right now.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, okay, okay.
That seemed way crazier.
serge du preez
Yeah, yeah.
brett dasovic
I mean, the part about characterizing him as MAGA is already crazy.
That's something that's so verifiably proven false already, but they don't care.
And that's one bridge too far as it is, which is why I'm sure a lot of people believe that Disney's issue here is that he lied outright about something like that's a whole nother thing to edit that clip in such a deceptive way.
tim pool
I'd like to offer you all this.
To conservatives, I give you an argument.
And to liberals, I give you your argument back to you.
It's a comic from XKCD, which the liberals waved in our faces as our friends and even our enemies were censored, despite the fact we had objections to it because people are allowed to express their opinions.
And in this rather ignorant comic in which XKCD has no idea what he's talking about, liberals claimed this.
Public service announcement.
The right to free speech means the government can't arrest you for what you say.
It doesn't mean that anyone else has to listen to your BS or host you while you share it.
The First Amendment doesn't shield you from criticism or consequences.
If you're yelled at, boycotted, have your show canceled, or get banned from an internet community, your free speech rights aren't being violated.
It's just that people, the people that are listening, think you're an a-hole and they're showing you the door.
Now, I'm going to be honest with you, this is one of the stupidest things I've ever read, and I'll tell you why.
But this is what liberals stood on: as they said, everybody with an offensive opinion who expresses it should be banned.
In fact, people who said hashtag learn to code were getting banned on Twitter.
phil labonte
It's worth pointing out the context surrounding the people that are losing their jobs or being quote unquote canceled now is the death of an innocent man, right?
A murder.
And they're complaining.
They're saying, oh, cancel culture's back.
And if you think about the reasons that people on the right got canceled, it was because they misgendered someone.
They used the wrong speech.
tim pool
Hashtag learned to code.
phil labonte
They said they were basically taunting media personalities or journalists on the internet.
tim pool
Making fun of a journalist was grounds to be permanently banned.
So it's ridiculous.
Yes, yes.
I understand.
And I think it's an important distinction to say: people are losing their jobs for mocking the death of somebody, which shows a dramatic and violent escalation of the rhetoric.
And what Jimmy Kimmel and others are doing could lead to more violence.
That I completely understand.
The underlying factor in these cancellations now is that a man is dead.
His wife and children were there and they watched it happen.
And it is gruesome and horrifying.
And we have a story from someone on the ground that I'm going to make sure everybody understands how serious this is.
But let me make one thing clear first about this liberal argument.
Free speech and the First Amendment are two distinct things.
The right to free speech is a principle held by a moral and virtuous people.
That means they themselves will not infringe upon your right.
You can speak.
They'll leave you alone.
The First Amendment says the government shouldn't.
XKCD wrongfully conflated these things because these people have no idea what they're talking about.
And the last thing I will say to all the liberals that are crying about this, one, I still believe in free speech.
I will still defend free speech.
Just not for you.
You know why?
Because you asked me not to.
You came to me and said, Tim, if people say hate speech, they should be banned.
And I said, I disagree with that.
You said, this is the way I want to live.
And then I said, okay, fine.
I will uphold your wishes for you.
So when Jimmy Kimmel gets fired, my response is, I don't care.
I love it.
Yeah.
brett dasovic
And if you want to go have that argument right now, go yell at Pam Bondi.
That's what everybody's doing over there, right?
They're talking about what they're discussing with hate speech over there.
Plenty of people are having that argument.
Do you remember the case?
I mentioned it today a couple of years ago.
If you want to talk about the difference between what's going on right now and a couple years ago, of the guy who got fired for cracking his knuckles outside of his car door and they thought he was putting up the okay hand symbol.
If you're comparing the two, they're not the same thing.
And for people like me who do take the Free Speech Act side of this very, very seriously, what happens is you've just bled out my desire to help you, given the fact that nobody wanted to help anybody else before.
tim pool
And now what I'm going to do for all of you, because many people are making the argument about free speech or otherwise, is going back to the conversation about the severity of the circumstances we deal with.
Jimmy Kimmel falsely portrayed a mass shooter as a conservative.
And now, the reason that's so dangerous is that they are already trying to justify and call for more murders.
And you know what?
I got no problem saying I take it personally as my name is on many of these lists.
So when someone says, stop defending a mass shooter publicly and you get banned for it, I ain't going to defend you.
But so that you all really understand.
And I know everybody on the right and everybody who truly knew Charlie was, they already do.
But for those liberals who want to make the argument, I have a video here from Frank Turek, who's going to give you his account of what happened on that fateful day.
It's five minutes.
And I ask you to please just listen.
And it's going to be hard.
And it was hard for me, but it was much harder for Frank, who was actually there.
And after you hear what he says, maybe you will understand why we should not be tolerating the left, dance on graves, and call for more death.
I give you Frank Turek.
frank turek
Now, here's what Erica wants me to relate on Sunday.
This is going to be the hard part, but maybe also the comforting part.
Charlie Kirk was literally like a son to me.
I have three sons.
He was like my fourth son.
My three sons are a little bit older than Charlie.
unidentified
He was like my fourth son.
frank turek
So when he was hit, if your son got hit, what would you do?
What would you do?
I got in the car because if there was any way I could save him, I had to do something.
I couldn't just, okay, just take him.
You guys got it.
So they got him into the side of the car.
It was an SUV.
It was the SUV we took over.
And I'm on one side, and there's actually some video there.
Somebody's taking video of this.
I'm on one side of the car, the right side, and they're getting Charlie in.
So I run over to the other side, but the guy was dragging him in.
They're now blocking that entrance.
So at that point, I run around to the back.
I pop the top, the back gate open, and I jump in the back.
The car lurches forward.
Apparently, somebody jumped in the car.
So the car lurches forward.
So I almost fall out of the car or the SUV.
Then I grab the thing and close it.
And there's five of us in the car now.
Justin is driving.
Dan is up front with the GPS.
Rick has got him.
Rick's on my left.
And Brian is there.
And I'm coming over the back seat.
And Charlie's laid out in front, just right in front of me.
And Charlie's so tall, we can't close the door.
We drove four miles, some, I don't know, it's four-something miles all the way to the hospital with the door open.
To this day, I don't know how Brian stayed in the car because we're just go, go, go, go, go.
You know what we're trying to do?
We're trying to stop the bleeding.
You saw it.
And I'm yelling, come on, Charlie, come on, come on.
Meanwhile, my phone is still on.
My son and daughter-in-law are here in this whole thing.
And his security team, again, Justin, Dan, Brian, and Rick, they love Charlie, but they're much cooler than I.
I mean, they're just carrying out, they're calmly, but they're swiftly doing exactly what they were trained to do.
Rick starts praying out loud.
I'm praying out loud.
We're yelling, come on, let's go, let's go, let's go.
My son's here in all this, and we're doing the best we can to navigate traffic.
This is not a highway.
We're on surface streets.
And suddenly there's an ambulance coming toward us.
And there was conversation in the car.
Should we stop?
We're like, no, no, just keep going.
Just keep going.
The doctor later said that was the right thing to do.
Ambulance goes by us.
We're still heading To the hospital trying to get there.
At one point, somebody says, Let's get there in one piece because we're just cutting through intersections.
You know, just beeping the horn.
This is not an emergency vehicle.
There's no, there's no lights.
There's none of this.
And I go, We got to start CPR.
So I try and start that.
Now, Charlie wasn't there.
His eyes were fixed.
He wasn't looking at me.
He was looking past me right into eternity.
unidentified
He was with Jesus already.
frank turek
He was killed instantly and felt absolutely no pain.
That's what I was told later.
But of course, we had to try.
And by the way, there was just nothing, nothing any of us could do about it.
We were giving him CPR, but nothing was happening.
It wasn't like if we had better first aid or we had better medical facilities or we were faster to the hospital, we could have saved him.
We couldn't.
So if that's any comfort at all, Charlie didn't suffer.
He was gone.
He was with Jesus, absent from the body, present with the Lord.
That's where he was.
Now, it is true when we got to the hospital and they started working on him right away.
They did get a pulse back.
And so Rick and I were just, everyone's praying.
We're just praying for a miracle.
We had a small sliver of hope.
And the doctor later said that we got a pulse because Charlie was a very healthy man.
But the shot was catastrophic.
So 20 or 30 minutes later, the surgeon came out and said he was dead.
tim pool
I hope people hearing that story and that account of what happened understand why we are not playing any games.
This is not a question of someone saying naughty words and you felt insulted.
This was an innocent man who asked for speech and debate, who was moderate politically.
And it's funny when these liberals are like, this is moderate.
And they show him saying things like, no abortion should be allowed.
And I'm like, have you met a Christian ever in your life?
That's the middle-of-the-road Christian position.
There are some Christians who are like, we should have prison and jail for people who get abortions, like even the women.
And Charlie was a moderate on this issue.
And he was murdered in cold blood by a lunatic.
And it sounds like, with the FBI currently investigating some of these, these terror groups, these anti-visels, that there may be more people involved.
We don't know.
It's been reported that he was a lone shooter.
The messages seem to convey that, but nobody really believes those messages.
And we don't know exactly.
But it was reported earlier today that I believe they did bring in.
I got to fact check this one, but this was relayed to me by some, I'll just call it security and law enforcement professionals, that they have brought in individuals associated with the Discord for questioning.
And I'll fact check that one.
So Jimmy Kimmel coming out and saying the shooter was MAGA, when you have stories like this and the severity of what we're dealing with is one of the most insane and dangerous things you could possibly do.
And I will stress, I don't want to see people lose their jobs for having bad opinions.
But I will also stress, Jimmy Kimmel being able to go onto his show to several million people and lie to them about the state of politics in this country is driving the political violence.
And that's just it.
So when the network says you insulted a man grieving his friend, you claimed and lied.
Now think about what that does to ABC when they have to issue a retraction because it was false, egregiously false.
They don't want to do that either.
They're going to be facing some suits.
Who knows what?
So they said, that's it, we're done.
Not to mention his show was probably losing money.
But I hope people, you know, I apologize for people who maybe didn't want to hear that story, but I think it's very, very important.
Everybody did.
will tanner
Well, to your point about violence and what's going on, what Kimmel was trying to do there is what the media did in the 70s with the Weathermen, with the family, particularly with the Black Liberation Army, where you have these leftist Marxist radicals who are murdering dozens of people, planning bombs, blowing up buildings.
And the media is claiming either it's not happening or we don't know what their motives are.
We don't know if they're an organized group, which is, of course, what they've said about Antifa as well.
And it's this attempt to cover up this leftist insurgency, a proto-guerrilla movement that's happening inside America and is extremely dangerous and violent.
And the Weathermen were never dealt with.
Chase Boudin, who was one of the top people in the Ren collective and really helped Soros push this soft on crime policy all over America.
He's the son of Kathy Boudin, who helped murder someone during an armed car robbery and never really faced justice for it over some time in prison.
Similarly, Obama's mentors, Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn, Weathermen never faced jail for bombings.
They think they can get away with it this time, like they got away with it for a decade in the 70s, and that can't be allowed to happen.
So I think Kimmel's firing is very important on that front.
tim pool
Let's take a listen to we got this from Mediaite: America is a less free place.
Brian Stelter, aghast at ABC's chilling decision to suspend Jimmy Kimmel.
They don't learn their lesson.
Listen to this.
unidentified
Truly dropped as I think a shock to anybody who heard it.
Even if they knew that Brendan Carr, the pro-Trump chief of the FCC, had made the comments he made on that podcast.
I don't think there's anybody who literally thought within hours Jimmy Cammel would be gone.
brian stelter
Right, absolutely right.
In fact, this was very sudden this afternoon after Carr spoke out on that far-right podcast.
Then some stations that are far-right podcast Benny Johnson, again, moderate conservative owned by other companies but affiliated with ABC, started to complain to ABC.
We know one of them, Nexstar, which has about two dozen stations with the ABC logo and all the ABC programming, Nexstar publicly announced that they were going to drop Kimmel's show indefinitely.
Within a matter of minutes, we heard from Disney that the show was being pulled altogether.
That suggests to me that other station owners were probably also getting scared.
Other station owners were probably also coming up with backup plans not to air Kimmel's show.
But even though we're talking about comedy, this is so serious.
tim pool
Comedy.
brian stelter
America is a less free place if late-night comedians cannot do and say what they want.
tim pool
I want to just stress, and let's take a pause real quick, and we can issue some commentary on this.
We all know what Jimmy Kimmel did.
He lied about the motivations of the shooter, which creates a shield for the shooter.
When the liberals come out and say he was actually a conservative or from a conservative background, and the bolts never were engraved with anything, and he wasn't this, they are what they are doing when they lie about the shooter, when they lie about Charlie and issue fake quotes, they're effectively saying to the liberal who watches CNN or Kimmel, who is scared that the values that they've supported have led to a death.
They're telling you, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't, don't be upset over this.
Charlie was a very, very bad man.
And don't worry, the shooter was actually a Trump supporter.
Keep on doing what you're doing, which resulted in this shooting.
That's why it needs to stop.
tate brown
Yeah, well, and I mean, to Will's point, they're just completely flabbergasted that they're actually in an environment where you can get held accountable for this kind of stuff.
Because the way like Brian's presenting it is like that the rights like settling scores right now.
Like that's the way he's presenting it.
And that's just not at all what's happening because we saw like Frank Studio.
We understand the magnitude of what happened on Wednesday.
They don't.
They think that this is just some flippant thing that we're freaking out over.
And so it's like, yeah, they're just not, they're just so confused that they can actually be held accountable for this nonsense that they're spewing.
will tanner
Well, and on the point of being held accountable, free speech, as Tim was saying earlier, is really, it's not a law, it's a culture.
And as a culture, it's a set of duties and responsibilities.
So if you have one side that's advocating for terrorism against the other side and celebrating murder, of course the other side's not going to find that okay.
You're no longer part of that culture because you've intentionally distanced yourself from it for temporary political advantage or to support something far more awful than that, which is what they're now doing.
brett dasovic
If you look at what it looks like when you look at all the people that were treating the situation the way they were, the people that were saying awful things about Charlie, the people that were celebrating his death, there was people who were talking about the Gen Z aspect of it, the young people on TikTok who were doing so.
But then you have the group of the aging boomers and the Gen Xers who do still find this type of television relevant, who find this lie very easy to swallow because it reaffirms their worldview and it keeps them, it absolves them of any guilt that they may feel.
And you can't change the culture and you can't find people away to a better understanding of one another if you can't even trust either group to be honest with one another about what's going on.
phil labonte
All you have to do is listen to what the pundits were saying and you know where they stand, right?
So Aaron Burnett said, I think it's Aaron Burnett, right?
Said, Trump-aligned FCC.
You've never heard anyone say Obama-aligned FCC.
brett dasovic
To be fair, you do hear people say Obama appointed judges.
phil labonte
Obama appointed.
But for the most part, the only time that's mentioned is if it's in the context of something that is actually partisan.
This isn't partisan.
Yeah, like Jimmy Kimmel said something terrible about a dude that was murdered.
And then the same thing with Brian Selter.
He was like, he calls Benny Johnson far right.
Anyone that doesn't, you know, that's to the right of the bulwark, which is essentially center left now, is considered far right.
brett dasovic
never give you an example of what the appropriate level of right is.
phil labonte
There is no appropriate level of right.
tim pool
And this is where it broke down for them.
Because Charlie Kirk was middle of the road conservative, like moderate conservative.
He was almost like he's just a conservative.
There's nothing and he holds traditional religious opinions.
So what the meme started coming out was when they claimed it was the further right that killed him, even though he was already the far right.
There were memes of people on the left.
You go to threads and they're saying, you mean there's a further right group worse than Charlie Kirk?
And everyone's like, is this a joke?
And it's because that's the world they live in, watching garbage like CNN.
And I'll just say this.
It is Colin Wright's meme personified.
The right hasn't really moved.
unidentified
And the left has gone so far off the deep end.
tim pool
Centrists are now right-wing to these people.
Benny Johnson is far right.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, if you were a Bible-believing Christian 30 years ago and you're a Bible-believing Christian today, you're essentially the same guy.
tim pool
No, no, no, no, they've moderated.
Charlie Kirk, Charlie Kirk said gay people should be welcome in his movement.
Yeah, yeah.
phil labonte
But for the most part, I mean, like, there were always Christians that said, look, you hate the sin, not the sinner.
So you don't hate gay people.
You hate their lifestyle or you hate that they're having, they're sodomites or whatever you want to call them.
But the fact of the matter is there were always people that were like, look, we can be around them.
We can talk to them.
We can treat them as we can be friendly with them.
We can treat them.
You want to be polite.
You want to be nice because you want them to feel like they can come out of the lifestyle that they're in and come to Christ, right?
That was the argument.
tim pool
And I agree.
However, the mainstream position, even 15 plus years ago from the conservatives was we won't accept gay marriage.
And many people who are middle of the road, moderate or default libs switched to Trump when the choice was Hillary or Trump because Trump was actually more socially liberal.
Trump unfurled a pride flag on stage at the RNC and a lot of middle of the road people were like, I can vote for that now.
Trump created a big tent party where moderate and disfected liberals said, Hillary's nuts, Trump's the right answer.
Charlie Kirk famously argued with people saying that gay people should be welcome in their movement.
And there's one video that's got millions of views where he tells a young gay man, I don't judge you, and you shouldn't judge yourself, and introduce yourself based on the actions of what you do in private.
It should be about, are you a good person, and will you come to Christ?
Will you be a better person?
That is a more moderate, more socially liberal position than in the past.
And they called Charlie a homophobic, homophobic, bigot, far right.
If he's far right, imagine what Republicans were 10 years ago.
Now they're pretending like they don't get it.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean, I think Charlie's policy package that he presents is probably the most, it's probably the plurality of Americans.
I think that's fair to say.
Like traditional conservative, evangelical, these sorts of things.
And yeah, they're saying that puts a target on your back, like full stop.
That's what they've declared.
will tanner
Well, and the target on your back part is extremely important.
To go back to Antifa, some of the armed factions related to it, like the John Brown gun clubs, why do they call themselves John Brown gun clubs?
Why do they continue to push this far right, you're super racist message, like Jasmine Crockett saying ISIS slave patrols recently.
It's because they have very dire things in your future that they want to do to you.
And you can see it.
That's why they glorify John Brown.
If you look at who he killed, the Doyle family, they had nothing to do with slavery.
tim pool
You know what we should have done, and I apologize for this, we should have pulled up Brian Stelter's reaction to Roseanne getting fired.
Because how much you want to bet he was like, well, you can't be a racist and a bigot.
It's too bad.
And now he's like, oh, no, he's effectively fanning the flames of violence and justifying murder.
brett dasovic
I mean, this is just what, like, for somebody like me who, like, when all of this started, I had to kind of have that discussion with myself about how I feel about it because I do tend to err on the side of like, look, and I understand the conservative argument, right?
It's like, it doesn't matter if they're going to use it against you later because they already used it against you before.
You need to exercise the power when you have it.
And I understand that.
But because that's not, you know, I don't fall in conservative circles.
It just, that's never lined up for me.
But then I look at the way that these people have behaved.
I look at doctors, lawyers, nurses, people educating your children, dancing on the grave of someone.
And I'm like, take the politics out of it.
Remove it from entirely.
Is this a person I would want to be spending any time with?
Am I supposed to go to bat for somebody that abhorrent?
And I've got about 10,000 other things in my life I have to finish first and then I'll get to that.
tim pool
Let me just say, ladies and gentlemen.
unidentified
I did.
tim pool
It took me two seconds.
Brian Stelter said, excuses, excuses, excuses.
That's what's happening.
We are seeing Barr trying to say she's sorry, trying to apologize.
But then in the next breath, she's making excuses, blaming this on liberal media double standard, saying she is the real victim.
Here is the sense of how he got here with his head spinning 24 hours.
So this is CNN.com transcripts about Roseanne Barr.
And it took me two seconds to find the transcript.
So sure.
But Barr undermining her own apology with a torrent of retweets from fans portraying her as a victim of a liberal double standard.
The comedian also retweeting a number of fake and offensive posts, including this fake yearbook quote, claiming Jarrett wanted to change America to be more like an Islamic country.
Also later deleted.
Jared is taking the high road responding to Barr's initial tweet on Tuesday.
Thank you, Brian Stelter.
How terrified were you that Roseanne Barr posted a dumb joke on Twitter and got fired over it?
No, you are a hypocrite and a liar, and your words mean nothing.
But you know what?
It was bad that people got fired for jokes.
It was worse that people got fired for jokes they made 10 years ago.
It is extremely terrifying when young men are gunned down in cold blood and then Jimmy Kimmel lies about it.
Other liberals lie about it.
They call for more.
They dance on his grave and they put out lists with people's names on it.
Again, very personal because my names are on those lists.
My name's on that list as well.
So Brian, maybe you need to take a step back and go to confession or something.
tate brown
Very real.
tim pool
Yeah, indeed.
Well, ladies and gentlemen, we do have massive breaking news from Truth Social.
Donald Trump has deemed Antifa a terrorist organization.
He has truth.
I am pleased to inform our many USA patriots that I am designating Antifa, a sick, dangerous radical left disaster, as a major terrorist organization.
I will also be strongly recommending that those funding Antifa be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the highest legal standards and practices.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Let's go.
tate brown
Let's go.
Yeah, this is exactly what needed to happen.
Dude, we have so many options now that now that Antifa has been declared a terrorist organization.
This opens up a war chest of options to really go at the throat here.
unidentified
What are you talking about?
brett dasovic
It's a decentralized group.
frank turek
They only have a leader.
tim pool
You know, my favorite thing was that famous clip where Trump is debating Biden and he says, you know, Antifa, Antifa.
And then Biden goes, Antifa is an idea.
The real threat's white supremacy.
White supremacy is an idea to you, moron.
Antifa is an international association.
They fly a banner.
brett dasovic
They have chapters.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
They have cells.
brett dasovic
With merch.
You can't say you're not a group and have merch.
Those are mutually exclusive ideas.
tate brown
Like bumper stickers.
tim pool
So let's try and get as let's clarify as much as we can.
There are Antifa cells.
They fly the banner.
They have a shared flag.
But these groups are specific.
So they'll call themselves like Insert City Antifa or something banner Antifa.
And the generic term Antifa refers to their ideology and loose-knit set of ideals and where they band together.
But flying the flag is intended to make them a singular group.
Meaning, if an Italian Antifa guy comes to the United States and has the patch, it is easily recognizable to someone in the United States.
And if a riot breaks out, they know how to coordinate because they share tactics.
So if you can't designate that an international terrorist organization, literally, what can you?
Are we going to pretend that it's not really ISIS because the guy only pledged to ISIS and was practicing what they preached and their tactics, but he never actually went to Syria to meet with them?
No, he's flying their banner.
It is a group.
And there are cells all over the world.
So some have argued you can't create domestic terror organizations.
And that is, this minor thing is true.
Some have said I'm wrong, but it doesn't matter.
Antifa is international.
They are a foreign terror organization with U.S. cells and chapters.
And it's about time these people face the consequences of their actions because for a better part of a decade, longer than that, because I've been experiencing it since the Occupy protests, they use similar tactics.
They have a similar ideology.
They get funded.
Where the money comes from, I'm curious.
And they engage in violence to suppress people's rights and shut down free speech.
You may not like the Proud Boys.
You may not like Patriot Prayer, but a bunch of right-wingers with American flags walking down the street never bothered anybody.
You want to get mad about rioters with American flags by all means.
But patriotic Americans walking down the street with American flags is totally legal and protected.
And the far left throwing bricks, throwing firebombs, that was always illegal.
And it's time for games to stop.
phil labonte
This is exactly what I've been calling for when I say the federal government needs to do something about terrorism in the United States.
Antifa are a terrorist organization.
They have always been a terrorist organization.
They are a revolutionary communist group, usually communists.
Sometimes there'll be some anarchist, like anarcho-communists in there, but they're still communists at their core.
And that honestly, the distinction about anarcho-communists versus regular communists, that's only a distinction without a difference because they end up being communists at the end of the day.
Well, they're not really, they don't want no government.
They want a government that tells everybody to be the type of communist that they are.
tim pool
I actually really, really love this political compass distinction.
It's important for everybody.
Libertarian communists do exist.
It's a real thing.
There's like three of them.
And they live on a farm and you've never heard of them and you'll never see them.
Why?
Because all they do is live on a farm.
And this is what a libertarian communist does.
They walk up to their room and go, Hey, my watermelons are right.
Do you want to share some?
Sure, man.
And then afterwards, we'll do the dishes together and they don't bother anybody.
And nobody cares.
In fact, there are some small communes in the United States where they have like 20 to 100 members and they don't bother anybody because they mind their own business and they have little hippie-dippy farms.
brett dasovic
It breaks down after about 100 people.
tim pool
It does.
It literally does.
That's why the most well-known libertarian commune has only 100 people and they won't allow any more.
brett dasovic
Really?
tim pool
Yeah.
And only when someone leaves does the wait list open up for the next person to come in.
brett dasovic
I've heard that once you get past 100 members of anything like that, it starts to break down.
tim pool
And so what you actually end up with in these cities are people claiming they're libertarian socialists or libertarian or anarcho-communists, and then they firebomb a police car.
And you're like, yeah, bro, let me just explain something.
When you use threat of death to enforce your ideology, that's authoritarian, okay?
Not anarcho.
When the hippie goes on the farm and says, come hang out if you want, that's libertarian.
And no one cares because nobody even knows these people exist.
I go to conservatives and they're like, there's no such thing.
They say, no, no, no, trust me.
There's just like three of them.
I've met them.
They're chill.
They're all right.
They're smoking pots somewhere.
I don't dig their lifestyle, but they leave me alone.
The people in the streets with batons and clubs and firebombs, they were always the tankies.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And so it's good that he's assigned them a terrorist organization.
tim pool
Well, real quick, I imagine tomorrow it'll be an executive order of some sort.
phil labonte
Sure.
I would assume so as well.
I don't imagine that there will be international drone strikes or drone strikes in other countries or anything like that.
But I do think that the FBI should start actually tracking down people that put up videos with their, that they're flying the Antifa flag.
If they're making comments about anti-fascist, blah, blah, blah.
The federal government should start knocking on their doors just because it chills behavior.
It's not about wrapping up people for speech, but if they are involved with an actual terrorist organization, which Antifa is, and 2020 was evidence of that, they had been, they rioted all summer.
They destroyed property.
They were doing everything they could to intimidate people.
They were literally getting in people's faces, demanding that people say, you know, Black Lives Matter.
Go and find those people and start asking them if they are involved in terrorist activities, if they plans, and you will see a significant drop in people that are actually going to say things like Charlie Kirk deserved it.
tim pool
And then you can go to Berkeley and set up a little table and say, let's have a conversation.
And no one will smash it and no one will throw rocks at you.
And that is the crazy thing about this country today is I can already hear the liberals going, it's happening.
unidentified
And Trump is saying that if you oppose fascism, you're a terrorist.
tim pool
And it's like, bro, I just watched a video.
I think it was Cam Higbee, who was like saying, he's got like a sign up saying no one should die for their opinions.
And a guy comes and attacks him.
And I'm like, the problem isn't the guy minding his own business.
Okay.
You guys are criminals.
You are fascists.
And Trump is saying, stop doing that.
But more importantly, honestly, I don't care if someone flies a banner of whatever they want to fly.
Free speech.
Seriously, I mean it.
The question is: if people are saying they're aligned with this, I believe that's enough cause to investigate whether they're providing material support to violent, to violent terrorist groups.
Now, if you want to say they shouldn't be called terrorists, literally, I don't care what your argument is.
If they are engaging in violence against other people for the purpose of suppressing their speech or ability to engage in American democracy, then they are terrorists.
And so when if, could you imagine if someone went on, like, say, Piers Morgan and said, if you wanted your friend to live, you shouldn't have voted for Donald Trump?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Imagine if something like that happened.
Imagine if they, so I'm going to say this.
I'm always supposed to.
phil labonte
I just, you mentioned, you mentioned that and Destiny has never flown like Antifa flags.
I'm bummed that, you know, this isn't going to wrap them up.
But anyways.
tim pool
So we can't, so we had a security assessment today.
And I actually do have a story from Variety about this.
I gave them a big, long quote.
We did initially cancel the college event that I was going to be doing because I had actually reached out to Charlie some time ago and I said, you know, I'll paraphrase, but I was like, dude, this is awesome what you were doing.
I'm a huge fan of this.
I would love to do things like this.
I saw what he was doing, how effective it was, and I was like, man, I wish I could be like Charlie and I could do this too.
And he responded with, let's get to it.
Let's make it work.
So we're both busy guys.
You know, we're working out what we're doing with Amfest, whatever's going to go on.
I'm not entirely sure yet.
But I did organize with Alex Stein one of these events and we canceled that.
We canceled that.
That was going to be on the 11th.
We were going to Penn State.
We are not anymore because our security team cannot secure it.
And so we actually canceled the Culture War Live events as well.
I decided, no, these are indoors.
Let's do it.
Well, unfortunately, we had a security assessment.
I sat down with my security team once again, and they said, we cannot secure this event.
It's up to you.
And so then I talked to my wife.
We discussed it.
And we were like, right now, we can't do it.
So I want to stress this, why this is so important that Trump is taking action against these terrorists.
I don't think it will stop the violence right now.
I think maybe in the future, we can stem the bleed, as it were, figuratively.
Meaning, it will only get worse if nothing is done.
But at least for now, we may pull out of this tailspin.
Because of these people, you know, they got our vent, the venue canceled on us the first time we did this because of threats, because of threats of terror.
And we pushed back and they brought our event back and only three people showed up to protest.
Now, because of the death threats, one crazy person, we can't secure the event.
And so for at least the time being, we were told we cannot provide meaningful security, which prevents a few problems.
Everyone's going to respond with, Tim, be brave.
Don't let them stop you.
Tell that to the insurance company when the security assessors say we can't provide security and the insurance company says we won't insure your event.
And then the venue says without insurance, you can't have one.
That's not happened just yet because we're voluntarily saying we're going to, this is what we've typically dealt with with insurance for events, the things that you need in order to make them happen.
And we just said, listen, it's not even just about that.
I don't want to make it seem like an insurance company came to us and shut us down.
I'm saying that's just a major component.
We think being unable to secure it and a challenge to whether or not we're going to be able to afford the insurance means we should probably wait.
And so I don't know exactly what's going to be happening with this.
There's also the trip to Arizona, which I mentioned the other night, which I don't know exactly what's going to be happening, but I'm being told right now to buy a wig.
I'm not kidding.
Buy a wig, get a polo shirt and some cargo shorts and sunglasses if you want to go to Arizona.
And I'm like, I don't know that I can live like this.
Now, I get it.
Big celebrities, bigger than, like, who am I?
I'm some guy on the internet who complains.
You know, Brad Pitt walks down the street.
He's got to deal with that stuff.
I get it.
But the issue right now is there is a series of death threats that we have forwarded, I believe, to the FBI.
I'm pretty sure it's our security team did, threatening to murder me and calling for others to murder me as well.
This is why I look at this and I say, good.
These people who go online and are telling me I can't speak.
And you know what's funny?
I'm to the left of Charlie.
And they're telling even me I should be murdered.
Something has to be done about this.
I fear with this action from Trump, we will still face some degree of escalation.
The left response immediately following this, because this happened 20 minutes ago, they're going to say, Trump just made it illegal to oppose fascism.
That's what they will say.
That's what they're going to say.
I'll just say this.
I have never faced any threats from gripers.
They make memes about me.
They make a meme where I've got the Jewish things coming down the braids or whatever.
I don't know what they're called.
What is it?
Payas.
And it's me saying the Goyam found out or something like that.
I don't know.
That's the worst thing they've done to me.
They've been like, you like Israel.
And I'm like, bro, what are you talking about?
That's it.
The left sends me death threats all the time.
All the time.
We have these creepos.
And so I'm just, I'm, my family is stressed.
I'm stressed.
And we want it to be done with.
And hopefully, this pulls us out of the tailspin and puts a stop to a decade plus, maybe 15 years or more of extreme violence from far-left, deranged lunatics who are given protection.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
The protection is the worst part, too, because for a long time, I think to the general public, people who don't follow politics very, very closely, when they think of domestic terrorism, they don't think of it as a left-wing concept.
They think of it as almost entirely a right-wing idea, despite the fact that they can't really give you modern examples of what that actually looks like.
But they don't know about the black bloc.
They don't know about anti-or even what you were talking about in the 70s or any of those types of events that have transpired.
And there needs to be a change around understanding where that type of terroristic threat is coming from in this country.
will tanner
To talk about where it's coming from, this is particularly important, the labeling them as terrorist organizations, because that's not just how you go after the foot soldiers like the John Brown Gun Club or Antifa or Black Block.
It's how you go after the second and third tier people who are backing this and making it continually happen and providing them with the resources where they can continue doing these illegal things with near impunity.
I mean, to go back to the 70s, they got away with it because they had Champagne Socialists and people like that giving them the best lawyers, providing them with the best things.
The city and state governments were often on their side, like Mayor Lindsay in New York City.
Now, that situation has more or less been repeated with these huge funds providing the lawyers, the media help, the personalities, everything it can do.
This helped shut that down because now you can investigate those people and make sure they no longer have these huge amounts of resources to just break the law and go after us.
tate brown
Well, now, I mean, big, beautiful bill, the DHS got an additional $165 billion.
So they have some new toys, I think, that they're looking to implement here with this new terrorist organization.
You're going to need a lot of resources to get to the bottom of this.
This is a huge network in this country.
tim pool
I got an idea for all the liberals and leftists and the far left out there.
Get a little folding table from Walmart, buy a big piece of like whiteboard and write on it: Donald Trump is a fascist.
Change my mind, tape it to the table, sit down politely at university with a microphone and have peaceful conversations and win your argument.
There's a really funny meme I saw earlier.
Not a meme, but like a tweet.
There is no Charlie Kirk analog on the left.
There is no left, liberal, far-left personality who has an open platform in public and says, Come and challenge my ideas and I will prove myself right.
Because all of them know they are wrong.
And that's why they engage in violence.
You do not shoot and kill a man who you've easily defeated in an argument.
And I think it was George R.R. Martin in Game of Thrones said, When you tear out a man's tongue, you don't prove him wrong.
You simply show the world you fear what he might say.
So when they killed Charlie Kirk, what were they admitting?
He's right.
And we can't win.
will tanner
Well, they say they're against fascism.
Can any of them define fascism?
phil labonte
No one on earth can define fascism at all either.
They're just like, oh, it's my dad.
tate brown
Mainstream evil.
tim pool
No liberal can.
You talk to most conservatives and they'll give you the basic breakdowns of what fascism is.
There's a few different views.
One is the lucrative merger of corporation and state.
brett dasovic
That's the one I was always.
tim pool
The corporation basically follows and locks up what the state wants it to do, effectively creating a totalitarian system where it's not communism.
The state isn't telling you where you have to work or what you have to do, but businesses only function for the purpose of the state.
However, there's an easier way to describe it because these economic functions vary from country to country.
It was totalitarian traditionalism.
It was an authoritarian structure with a traditionalist bent.
And communism was authoritarian or totalitarian progressivism.
The communists wanted to erase all history and make you live in these equal little boxes.
And the fascists were like, restore the natural order.
So they were the two extreme ends of traditional or progressive.
They call you a fascist because you hold some traditional values, which is psychotic.
You can be a liberal and not a commie.
You can be a conservative, not a fascist.
That's just that simple.
To them, literally every conservative is a fascist.
And any, well, I guess apostate of liberalism, even if you're not conservative, is still a fascist.
So they've lost the plot.
tate brown
Tim gives that eloquent breakdown, going to the nitty-gritty of the ideologies, and then you ask a liberal and they just describe like a Southern Baptist.
phil labonte
My dad.
My dad.
My dad tells me I can't do things.
That's fascism.
That's why I don't like my dad.
That's fascism.
The point that you made, Tay, earlier, going for the organizations that fund the NGOs and going after them.
Was it you they made it?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Okay, sorry about that.
But that's going to be the thing that really pays off, right?
That's where you're going to really get the most bang for your buck.
Because it's easy to take care of the crazies on the streets that are going to throw bricks because they're crazies.
They're going to look for a reason to get buck wild or whatever.
If there's a riot, they're going to go out there.
If they've got someone that eggs them on, then they'll do something.
But they're kind of crazy.
They're people that are, you know, they're loose cannons.
They're people that don't have a whole lot going on in their life.
And so they go and they're like, I don't mind throwing a rock through the window because if I get put in jail, I don't care.
I'm not, I don't really have plans for my life.
tate brown
But I made the point on the show, I think it was Friday.
I was like, the only thing, the only distinction between these mainstream pundits and the people that are throwing bricks through the window is the people that are throwing bricks through the windows have nothing to lose.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Like these pundits, they have the exact same ideology.
They just have a little more skin in the game.
phil labonte
I don't think that the people that are throwing bricks really have a whole significant grasp on the ideology.
They're the ones that are a little more on the anarcho side.
tate brown
Sure.
phil labonte
And they have a less coherent worldview than the organizers that use them.
unidentified
Yeah.
will tanner
They're bio-engines.
They hate beauty because it exists.
They hate order because it exists.
tim pool
I want to.
We've got a little bit more news on the Jimmy Kimmel thing.
Here's a really great sentence for you.
When asked by the Hollywood Reporter, the source said that Kimmel was not planning on apologizing.
He felt that what he said did not require an apology.
That's why he got shut down.
brett dasovic
So he lied and doesn't feel that his lie requires an apology.
tim pool
Yep.
Indeed.
And so, yeah, this is the latest development on the matter.
We have other big news from Variety.
South Park delays new episode hours ahead of airtime because creators didn't get it done in time.
They say, apparently, when you do everything at the last minute, sometimes you don't get it done.
This one's on us.
We didn't get it done in time.
Thanks to Comedy Essential and South Park fans for being so understanding.
Tune in next week.
I'm going to tell you what really happened, and it's just my opinion.
But the South Park episode, South Park's been doing this for how long?
What, 30 years?
brett dasovic
30 years.
tim pool
Have they ever missed an episode?
brett dasovic
I think that there's a couple of rare examples, but it doesn't matter.
tim pool
They don't issue statements.
brett dasovic
This is a well-oiled machine, and you don't just show up the day of the, first of all, there was supposed to be a teaser yesterday that never came out.
You don't just show up the day and like the head of Paramount calls you and is like, where is the episode?
Sorry, boss.
I just didn't get it done.
That's not how it happens.
tim pool
I believe, and I think this is a fair assessment, and I think you'll all agree.
South Park was planning to do an episode that was overtly political, likely about Trump.
And there's a variety of things that it may have included.
Cartman is Charlie Kirk again.
Donald Trump doing something that put his life in danger.
It may have been as simple as the Trump character gets hit by a car or something.
And then Paramount was probably like, no way.
Absolutely not.
brett dasovic
And there's a huge history of television shows that have moved episodes around because of, I mean, this was happening, unfortunately, a lot during the early 2000s because of school shootings.
And television shows would run episodes with dramatized versions of this and that.
And then they would have to move it a month and they'd have to release a statement that said, you know, it coincided with real world events.
We're sorry.
You know, we had to move it down the line.
But in today's day and age, you know, it's a whole different ballgame now.
tim pool
Yeah.
They pulled the, they shouldn't have pulled the first episode.
Some people have said that they're responsible.
I have seen some people tweet that.
But the idea that the majority of Trump supporters are anyway mad at South Park, they were celebrating.
It was like putting Charlie Kirk in South Park was basically the victory flag on top of the mountain.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, it was an affirmation of his impact culturally.
Just because South Park portrayed him as someone they disagreed with doesn't mean that he didn't have, it wasn't a massive compliment to even put him in there.
You don't get in South Park unless you have an impact on society.
tate brown
Yeah, well, he made it his profile picture.
Apparently, I thought it was funny.
brett dasovic
He did what Christy Noam was supposed to do before somebody wisened her up, which she was mad at first when South Park portrayed her.
And then somebody in the know is like, yeah, that's not going to work for you.
If you pretend, if you show them that you're mad, they're just going to go even harder at you.
So then she like, I don't know if she deleted that tweet, but then she changed her mind and like made it her profile picture because she under somebody in her camp understood.
They're like, it will get worse for you if you're actually upset by this.
tate brown
Well, and I just remember like getting past her on Twitter, and everyone on the right was like, yeah, this is pretty funny.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tate brown
I mean, it's like a little tacky, but it's funny.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, the episode, you guys, did you guys watch it?
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
He's debating as if he's Charlie Kirk, and he's actually just giving Charlie Kirk's opinions for the most part, where he's like, why he's like sitting in there drinking the water and he's like, why isn't Fetus a baby?
Why, why, what?
And then Bebe can't answer.
And he's like, okay.
brett dasovic
The worst part about it is like, then you draw in the media literacy crowd who's like, they're making fun of you.
Because they do that.
They did that with the media literacy.
The worst people on the internet is the person who says that you can't like something because you don't understand it.
Just block them.
They're the worst people on the internet.
tim pool
They're like, Charlie doesn't understand is being made fun of.
brett dasovic
Because Cartman's the bad guy.
Yeah, they don't care.
They were doing that when they were doing the Kathleen Kennedy one.
You know, put a chick in it and make it gay.
They're like, yeah, you don't get that.
Cartman's the bad guy.
So they're making funny.
He's like, we don't care.
They don't care.
And you're the one who's the drag on society if you think that I have to interpret whatever media you're talking about in the way that you see it.
tate brown
Yeah, they're like, you know, they're making funny.
He's like, really?
unidentified
They are.
That's cool.
brett dasovic
I am.
tim pool
I want to stress, we don't actually know what happened with the South Park episode.
They just said they didn't get it done in time.
brett dasovic
Again, it's my the dog ate my homework.
Nobody buys that.
tim pool
It's indeed, it's where they should have statement.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because haven't they missed weeks this season?
brett dasovic
I mean, they could have just released a rerun.
tim pool
They did that all the time.
Yeah.
There was a.
brett dasovic
I mean, they hadn't.
I mean, they, I don't know if they had to release a statement, but they have a schedule that they have to keep to.
So I've been a point of interest for a couple of hours.
tim pool
All I know is everyone, like a couple weeks ago, after the Charlie Kirk thing came out, people were like, isn't that new?
South Park's supposed to come out this week?
And then everyone shrugged because it didn't.
And I'm like, I have no idea.
They could have said nothing and people would have been like, I don't know.
But I guess when you're getting paid $30 million.
So I think the strong probability is there is a secret episode of South Park that you can't see.
brett dasovic
It'll come out later.
I think they'll end up releasing it later.
tim pool
Yeah.
If it exists.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
I mean, it also, I mean, it could literally be because if I remember correctly, this appears on both, is it on Comedy Central and on Paramount?
unidentified
Right?
tim pool
That's the same thing, isn't it?
brett dasovic
Okay, but I'm saying, but like network, if it's appearing on cable or TV, they have to worry about advertisers and advertisers getting pulled if it's just going on Paramount Plus.
That's what happened with the Charlie Kirk episode, is they removed it from network TV, but they left it on Paramount Plus.
You don't somebody can fact-check me if I'm the Kirk episode?
unidentified
Yes.
brett dasovic
I believe it was.
tim pool
I went to Paramount Plus and I couldn't find it.
brett dasovic
Okay, they removed it from there.
unidentified
Okay.
brett dasovic
So I don't know.
I don't know.
tim pool
I'm looking into it heavily.
brett dasovic
Like the idea is like you have to find advertisers for the network version and you're going to have a lot harder time selling that than you are if you're just putting it on your streaming platform.
Somebody in the chat will know whether it's up on Paramount Plus still.
tim pool
I'm waiting to see if there's like some reaction on X to Trump designated antifa terror organization.
will tanner
But well, one thing on that that's important to remember with the organizations we're talking about, George Soros's Open Society Foundation, where did it get its start?
South Africa during the terror campaign being waged by the ANC against the government that ended in the horror show that South Africa now is.
So being able to cut these people off and cut off the funds from where they're going, I think could have a really huge impact that we haven't thought of because it could stop the color revolutions that have been ongoing in all our countries for decades now.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of paper trails, et cetera, et cetera.
tim pool
So we just got some breaking news, too.
I'm going to pull this up from Nick Sorter on Jimmy Kimmel.
tate brown
So much going on.
tim pool
Well, Sinclair stepped up.
And I think this was it, was it Stelter who was saying this?
That likely other networks were who brought that up?
Other networks were likely making moves against Jimmy Kimmel, which is why ABC was forced to respond.
So take a look at this from Nick Sorter.
He says, breaking, it just got worse for Kimmel.
Sinclair Broadcast Group, who owns 24 ABC stations in major cities, announces you got to let me finish this.
They'll be filling Jimmy Kimmel's time slot with a tribute to Charlie Kirk.
They're also demanding Kimmel make a meaningful personal donation to the Kirk family and Turning Point USA, as well as a direct apology to Erica and the kids.
Incredible.
Mr. Kimmel's remarks were inappropriate and deeply insensitive at a critical moment in our country.
Said Vice Chairman Jason Smith, Sinclair gave much credit to Brendan Carr FCC saying, We appreciate FCC Chairman Carr's remarks today.
And this incident highlights the critical need for the FCC to take immediate regulatory action to address control held over local broadcasters by the big national networks.
brett dasovic
So the big national networks blame the FCC, and then the and then now they're saying that it's the other, you know, that it's not them.
phil labonte
What?
brett dasovic
So they're saying that, can you read the last part again?
phil labonte
Sinclair gave much credit to Brennan Carr saying, we appreciate FCC Chairman Carr's remarks today.
And this incident highlights the critical need for the FCC to take immediate regulatory action to address control held over local broadcasters by the big national networks.
tate brown
I mean, is this the worst thing in the world if the FCC is putting weight?
I mean, that's kind of like their job if there's this insanity being spewed on national airwaves.
Isn't that the FCC's purview?
I mean, mitigate political violence.
And that's what we've been arguing this whole time.
phil labonte
I think that's the best point.
Considering the fact that this is political violence, right?
This is, there's no question about it.
tate brown
Radio Rwanda level.
phil labonte
It was a literal, it was a terrorist attack.
And this is something that I am going to beat this like a dead horse.
This wasn't just a murder.
This was a terrorist attack intended on getting conservatives to stop speaking their mind.
Because again, Charlie Kirk's whole spiel was, I'm the guy that wants to talk to you.
I want to do the debate.
This is probably a very good thing for the whole country because the intent is to lower the temperature.
The people that are that you hear people on the left complaining that, oh, Donald Trump's not lowering the temperature, Donald Trump's not lowering the temperature.
Donald Trump's not lowering the temperature while they're calling Donald Trump a fascist.
While they're saying that, well, Charlie Kirk was a fascist.
Well, it's bad that he got killed, but he said all these horrible things and he did all this horrible stuff and he was a hateful person and blah, blah, blah.
None of that is lowering the temperature.
This is actually, tangibly attempting to lower the temperature.
brett dasovic
I guess the point what I was trying to make earlier is that Sinclair is saying that the FCC is addressing the control of the big national networks, which was what was being stated by Brian Stelter on CNN, right?
So Sinclair is saying that the big national networks like CNN have control over these stations, but then CNN was putting it off on the FCC.
So they're all passing the buck around to everybody else.
tim pool
And I would like to issue a request to those out there with the decentralized network and so many viewers.
There's a great power in so many of you working together.
I would ask that you go to Timcast.com, join our Discord server so we can work on these communal projects because what I'm about to ask requires a bit of coordination.
How about we pull up every quote from every liberal who fought to get Tucker Carlson kicked off of Fox News?
All of the statements they issued where they said he should be fired and then went to all the advertisers and got all the advertisers pulled.
They have no, nothing, they have no ground to stand on when it comes to Jimmy Kimmel because they fought so hard to kick off Tucker.
Why should I listen to anything they say now?
brett dasovic
All because he wanted to talk about the green M ⁇ M's go-go boots.
tim pool
I know.
He said, why isn't the MM sexy anymore?
And they took his job.
tate brown
It's a very salient question.
tim pool
To be fair, even Seamus made fun of Tucker for that one.
Why is the green M ⁇ M sexy anymore?
tate brown
That radicalized me beyond belief.
Yeah.
I want my sexy M ⁇ Ms back.
The left, the woke left, took it from me.
tim pool
Tucker High Heels away and they gave her little flats.
Come on.
brett dasovic
New war on Christmas.
tim pool
But in all seriousness to Roseanne as well.
It would be great if someone could put together a little video showing every, you know what we need?
We need like Brian Selter being like, this country is less free.
They're coming for our speech or whatever.
And then you could play the curbed theme and then show all the time Brian Stelter cheered for like Roseanne or Tucker getting fired.
brett dasovic
Like, am I really supposed to buy into a world where Brian Stelter is like, I disagree with what you say, but I defend it.
Like, sure, Jan.
phil labonte
They shut down Parlor because they claimed it was supporting terrorism or something by letting that's where the January 6th people organized, even though later it came out they organized on Facebook.
tim pool
Which brings me to this story from time.com.
CEOs of Reddit and Twitch called to testify to Congress on radicalization in wake of Charlie Kirk killing.
Anybody who's ever gone on Reddit knows that it is a hotbed of radicalization for the left.
YouTube is, and they lie.
They've always lied.
They claim that all these platforms like X or whatever were radicalized middle of the Reddit.
It was never true.
And we went over the data over and over again.
So let me tell you something really funny.
We launched a, I got a new channel.
It's youtube.com slash at Tim Pool.
I got a video that's, it's, it's called Hyped.
That's what they're calling it.
I had no idea what this was.
It's got like 200,000.
It's called It's Time to Bring Back Exorcisms.
I found something really funny.
We launched this channel because I believe YouTube has put coded censorship on this channel as well as many others, making it difficult to get recommendations or to be found.
I believe that since the Biden era, they have remained on these channels.
So if we make a new channel, it will be free of this.
Well, the videos that I've put out, I'll say it like this.
I put out a video on this channel on Timcast or Timcast News.
They spike in viewership and then die.
That's the life of these videos.
On the new channel, it's like it used to be.
When I first launched my channel on YouTube, it would spike, it would go down, then it would go up, then it would go down, then up and down, and eventually slowly fade out.
Maybe later on, spike back again.
That's what my new channel is doing, indicating that YouTube, also a hotbed of radicalization, still has the censorship active.
Well, now Reddit and Twitch are going to testify to Congress, and Hassan's freaking out.
He's like, Twitch doesn't even have to do anything with this way.
Oh, boy, you know why he's freaking out?
Because the Congress men and women, at least the conservatives, are going to say to the CEO of Twitch, Hassan Piker said this.
Gut him.
Stab him.
Stick a knife in their belly.
Things like that.
I can't even repeat some of the things that Hassan Piker has said on his show.
And he's freaking out because the CEO of Twitch is going to have to answer for all of that.
phil labonte
I just want to point out until they get the CEO of Kick, again, Destiny's dodging a bullet.
tim pool
That's true.
I guess Kick isn't big enough.
phil labonte
I don't know.
Maybe they're just probably.
But Kik is where the people that get kicked off of Twitch go to because they're allowed to be irreverent or whatever.
tim pool
I bet if I pull up Reddit, go to r/slash news, and let's take a look at what we got.
Just, you know, just ABC suspends Jimmy Kimmel.
How much do you want to bet all of the comments are going to be left aligned?
phil labonte
It just means straight up people calling for more murder.
tim pool
Has there ever been a person whose death and remarks about it have caused so many other people to get canceled?
Meanwhile, Brian kill the homeless kill me is still on the air.
tate brown
Based.
phil labonte
Wow.
tim pool
Now Colbert's chance to go scorched earth and get pulled mid-monologue.
It's not like he has his show after this season anyway.
unidentified
But he just won an Emmy.
tate brown
Colbert says left-wing things.
phil labonte
What is he going to say that could get him pulled?
What is he going to say?
Yeah, that he hasn't already said.
Unless it's just straight up, you know, like lying.
I mean, bro.
tim pool
I actually, I really want to watch his show now.
It is going to be, it's not even fair to call it thin ice that he's walking on.
He's like, it's a pool of water.
It's like he takes any step in any direction.
He falls in.
What's he going to do?
He can't do any of these.
He can't do literally any joke.
The news cycle right now is this.
What will he say about it other than to agree with the right?
And then what jokes can he make?
How much you want to bet his jokes are going to be totally unrelated to anything?
And he's going to be like, I bought some bread today.
It was stale.
Guess there was a hole in it.
You ever have stale bread?
Put it in the oven.
And we're going to be like, what?
brett dasovic
The funny thing would be like, he finds out later he's really good at telling those types of jokes.
And all he had to do is get away from the political stuff.
phil labonte
Delivery is actually amazing.
unidentified
And people the ratings spike super high.
brett dasovic
They're like, holy crap, this dude is actually funny when he's not being a dork about politics.
tate brown
Talking about MMs.
brett dasovic
Yeah.
tate brown
Sexualize and ash hit.
brett dasovic
Can he start taking Tucker bits and redoing it?
phil labonte
What can he joke about?
tate brown
Phone book jokes.
tim pool
Honest question.
What can he joke about?
I bet he's going to joke about – you can't even joke about the – what was it, the Emmys that just happened?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because that lady went up there and said free Palestine.
brett dasovic
So it's like, well, she said F-Ice for you.
tim pool
Exactly.
brett dasovic
No, but you can't make a joke about that because why are you bringing up like your favorite football team around foreign wars and like immigration policy?
Like that was actually something that I found funny.
I'm like, why did you couch like your favorite sports team right next to the really serious issues?
Because these are unserious people.
You could make fun of her.
You actually could, but you don't have the balls to do that because you don't actually want to take on that narrative.
tate brown
Yeah, she was literally like, go birds.
By the way, there's like a genocide going on.
And then the money that's going to poor children just crashes through the floor on the right.
brett dasovic
Did you see that part?
That they had a charity clock on there.
Like if they kept their speeches under 45 seconds, they gave more money to the Boys and Girls Club, but they ended up losing money because none of the celebrities could shut the hell up.
Like eventually, like CBS or whoever it is that hosts is like, okay, well, we'll front the money because nobody would shut up.
tim pool
Who watches those things?
unidentified
Nobody.
Femented, tormented, and search volume was good on Google.
tim pool
So I guess nobody watched it and then just Googled it in the morning.
brett dasovic
They watched the clips.
They watched the clips.
X is probably where the most views get seen because people watch the stuff clipped out of context.
tim pool
This is crazy because Seth Meyers is in trouble.
tate brown
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
He's still there.
Colbert's show is already canceled, but look, he's losing, was he losing $40 million a year?
unidentified
Probably.
tim pool
They're like, we're not going to renew your contract.
Give them a morality clause exemption to be able to terminate right now.
I bet they will.
Nobody watches his show.
To be fair, Colbert and Kimmel get about 2 million in their ratings, and you might be saying 10 at so many people.
In the key demo, it's like 200,000.
brett dasovic
And yeah, and the 18 to 49 demo matters less and less these days because there's no 18 to 49 people watching terrestrial television anymore.
tim pool
Well, the demo matters.
It's just when we, when you, when you do your ratings, you're going to count all of your views across the board, including TV or otherwise.
But the show doesn't even pull that much on YouTube or other social media.
brett dasovic
No, Kimmel actually does pretty crazy numbers on YouTube, like in the billions of views and stuff.
Like, that's where they're getting.
tim pool
I mean, his channel has billions of views.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
But what are his videos getting 100K?
brett dasovic
Well, it's like what they brought back with Jon Stewart, right?
He came back because the social media engagement was really it's because YouTube puts him on the front page for default.
Well, yeah, they automatically default to the late night show.
tim pool
This is massive.
I'm pretty sure YouTube trending is gone because I've like I go to YouTube Trends and it's like it just is gone, doesn't load anything anymore.
Maybe that's just my account, but I'm pretty sure I tried on a private browser.
With Jimmy Kimmel no longer having his show, he's not going to produce YouTube content.
How's he going to afford to?
There's no way you make enough money on YouTube for that.
So that's gone.
What's YouTube going to put on the front page?
brett dasovic
Like, what channels will it just be CNN, regular news channels?
tim pool
I don't think even CNN is getting that.
I will say when the press conference happened with Cash, I did a live stream, I think it was yesterday or the day before.
And I had, what, 40,000 viewers watching.
I was the biggest stream covering the press conference, and YouTube was not featuring it.
And I'm just like, sure thing, I guess they put up a bunch of channels that were getting substantially less because YouTube playing stupid games.
They desperately want to stop independent news channels from getting a voice.
will tanner
Is it the left's patriarchage networks have shifted from cable to the tech platforms, particularly YouTube?
Because it used to be like the deal for Colbert pushing propaganda constantly to his insane audience was that he got the millions of dollars, but that's gone.
So is it now that YouTube is building these people up as a way of rewarding them behind the scenes for continuing to push the party line?
Or do you think it's just organic in that regard?
tim pool
I'll say it one more time.
What do you mean?
will tanner
Sorry, is it an intentional patriotage network where they're trying to boost their propaganda pushers through YouTube now because cable's dying and this is their way of doing it?
tim pool
YouTube's promoting Jimmy Kimmel because we are told Jimmy Kimmel is mainstream.
So the people at YouTube largely are liberals.
They are told Jimmy Kimmel is the popular, prominent, normal thing.
So promote that.
It's fake.
Their channels have become psychotic and deranged.
So the funny thing is, YouTube saw tremendous success with shows like this seven or eight years ago and then got attacked by these institutions and panicked.
So YouTube could have had a much, much stronger foothold for a long time, but they panicked over this, censored all of the independent news channels and commentary channels, which ranged from left to right, and then defaulted Fox, MSNBC, and CNN.
And they said, we'll just do that.
brett dasovic
Yeah, they were talking about authoritative news sources.
tim pool
Exactly.
brett dasovic
Pushing away from it.
tim pool
So you no longer got recommended my videos.
I was getting massive views.
And then they censored me and everybody else.
And to be fair, like my channel still did really, really well.
It's still growing.
But they locked us out.
It's called the small room, what is called the small room shadow ban.
They lock you so your channel can't grow anymore.
And I believe those censor locks still exist on this show and the other channels that I have, which is why I launched a new channel, which now seemingly doesn't have it.
One of the latest videos I did has a tag on it that says hyped.
So it's being promoted massively, and it got 200,000 views and there's 40,000 subscribers.
And they're saying, wow, this must be great content.
Yeah.
Because now they're not censoring.
Now there's a clear victory.
We won.
Jimmy Kimmel is gone.
These late night shows are not popular.
They are not mainstream.
And the election proved it.
And I think YouTube is now starting to realize there is a new world in digital media, and these channels do not represent the heart and soul of this country.
brett dasovic
And they're relics of how these things are produced.
I mean, they have 100 writers on these shows.
Like when Jimmy Kimmel says, like, I said nothing that I have to apologize for, it's like, you didn't say anything.
Like, a hundred writers said that, and you just parroted whatever the hell you were told.
tate brown
What you're seeing, like, all across the tech space, just this huge, I guess you would call it a containment breach of right-wing thought.
I mean, Elon led the charge with taking over X, and then I think all these companies realized, oh, there's actually a monetary incentive to just let people engage with the content they want to.
Because, yeah, if you scroll Instagram Reels now, you're going to see like some of the most right-wing edits you've ever seen in your entire life.
And it's massive engagement.
So I think Meta is happy to just sit there and be like, I mean, look, we're in the black.
This is great.
Just let him cook.
will tanner
When Once One is a relatively free speech platform where people can go there if you start booting them off, it really, I think, to your point, disincentivizes the censorship model because they actually can just leave.
tate brown
Well, I mean, like, TikTok is like still just kind of the TOS is still very vague and kind of random who they punish.
So everyone's transitioned to Instagram Reels because it's like, I mean, it's still bad, but it's a little bit more clear.
And you're actually going to see, you know, you're going to see real people on there versus TikTok.
The only people that can fly under the radar are just like anonymous people like stealing each other's content.
So like, yeah, all these companies are realizing, oh, the incentive structures have completely changed around and they're having to get in line.
I think that's in large part due to Elon.
brett dasovic
I mean, Meta will still hit the people on Instagram where it's like, if you're controversial enough, it'll be like, are you sure you want to follow this person?
tate brown
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Like, it like double checks with you to make sure that that's actually like, are you like, you could get radicalized if you watch their content?
tate brown
Yeah, they'll do it's like, yeah, if you're trying to follow like Fox News anchor, but then there'll be like a guy literally posting like the most insane edits you've ever seen your entire life.
And it's like, yeah, here's recommended.
You want to see some more?
So it's like, yeah, they're just, I don't think they really even know what they're doing anymore.
They're just letting everyone cook.
tim pool
Let's jump to the, excuse me, let's jump to this story from Rolling Stone from 2023, why cancel culture is good for democracy.
I'm kidding.
It's there, though.
It's a real story.
phil labonte
Yeah.
To act as if the left has not only been vocally for canceled culture, they have been the people that were absolutely demanding cancellation of anyone that spoke against the left's narrative.
And to behave as if they haven't and to be, oh, well, now you, now you, uh, now you support canceled culture, blah, blah, blah.
Again, contextually, this is a totally different animal with the situation with Charlie Kirk.
This is a murder of an innocent man by a terrorist.
And they're like, how can you cancel people over supporting terrorism?
It's ridiculous on its face.
tim pool
I'd like to jump to this video of Nick Fuentes because if there is ever anything that proves the Large Hadron Collider has fired up and we have entered an inverse reality, there are a few stories.
Jimmy Kimmel being fired, Trump designating Antifa a terrorist organization.
And then this video that, to be fair, I can't even tell if these things are AI anymore, but people are saying this is actually Nick Fuentes.
Listen to this.
unidentified
Time to wake up, guys.
Some of this, I'll be the first one to say the conspirator schizo thing, it's getting a little out of control.
And that's coming from me.
I mean, it's like we are truly through the looking glass.
When Charlie Kirk is assassinated, people blame Israel.
I, who fought Charlie Kirk because he was pro-Israel, and being said to are, I'm being said to be covering up that he was killed for this miraculous conversion.
If Ben Shapiro was taken out next, and God forbid, would Israel be behind that too?
I mean, that would be equally ridiculous.
If it was Ben Shapiro on Wednesday, people would be saying, Israel did it.
Shapiro was about to become a national socialist.
Like, what?
tim pool
What is Fuentes?
Voice of Reason.
I saw this video and someone asked me if it was AI.
And I'm like, honestly, I don't know anymore because Nick Fuentes is like, I was challenging the Israel narrative on Charlie's assassin, and people said he was covering it up.
I did like a 46-minute breakdown on all these stories where they're claiming that Charlie was fighting with donors.
He felt blackmailed.
And I'll just say, I'll give you the real simple version.
Some of that seems to be half true.
Like there were donors who were concerned about the current state of support for Israel.
And Charlie was moderate conservative.
So he had similar views to many conservatives, which is, I don't know why we should be funding these foreign wars and getting dragged into it.
However, I think it's very obvious to anybody who's ever watched anything from Charlie, who was extremely pro-Israel.
So I agree with Nick Fuentes on this one in that it is ridiculous to assume Israel did it.
And I don't get the point.
I mean, it's just deflecting from the obvious that far leftists who had a real motive that we've been warning about for some, like, don't walk away from solving the puzzle.
Okay.
We've been complaining about the far left threat of violence.
I have been threatened by the far left.
I've never been threatened by Israel.
I've never been threatened by groipers.
It's always the far left.
And so when a guy kills Charlie and the evidence suggests he's a leftist, there are people coming out blaming Israel.
And I'm just like, by all means, like rag on Israel all day every day.
I don't care.
I care about it as much as I care about Burma.
But it is weird that they blame it for everything to the point where even Nick Fuentes, of all people, is saying, guys, chill out.
But, you know, I agree.
I agree, Nick.
will tanner
In the diffusion of political force that the whole conspiracy thing he's talking about represents is a major problem because this is our opportunity to take on the radical violent left that you're speaking about.
And to do that, we have to develop a schwearpunk, a point of force, and overwhelming force to do so.
Not violent force, just political force and political will to do it.
And if everyone's off with their own personal pet theory about what went on, despite the evidence that this was clearly an Antifa-related operation, that's a major mistake that will limit our ability to do anything productive, much less what directly needs to be done and will be very difficult to accomplish, even if we keep our focus intact.
tate brown
Yeah, I mean, like, you have people that have been on the same tangent.
Like, they were saying the same stuff eight days ago, and then they just like reapply it to this horrible, tragic situation.
And all they're doing in the process is just letting the left off the hook.
That's all that's happening here.
It's like, like he said, like, what are we even talking about here?
Like, why, like, like you're saying, we have, we now have a moment.
We now have the potential to really crack down on these people that have been tormenting us for all these years.
And then these people are just going off on bunny trails that aren't going to go anywhere.
And then, like, there's overwhelming evidence this guy was, you know, left-wing, you know, antifa aligned.
And yeah, they're just completely letting him off the hook with this nonsense.
I'm just like, guys, what are we doing here?
It's almost, you almost get suspicious.
Like, are you running cover for the left at this point?
You got to, you have to start asking yourself that question.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I do, I do wonder how many people are actually running cover for the left because it does seem like there's that motivation.
I mean, this is probably about as conspiratorial as I get, but the idea that this is, this is an op, it doesn't sit with me, but there are people where it's just like, man, are you actually trying to help the left?
tate brown
You know, I'm like, have you ever met a leftist?
I legitimately, I'm asking people, like, if you have an accident at Israel, that's one thing, but it's like, maybe you just never met a leftist to like realize that, no, they actually hate you.
They actually want to kill you.
This is not beyond the pale for them.
This is how they operate.
Maybe they just haven't met a leftist because this is when as soon as this happened, I was like, Yeah, okay, it's kind of obvious what's happened here.
Yeah, and it's crazy.
serge du preez
I mean, there are so many Jewish people.
Yeah, I wonder if they've met a Jew in their whole life.
phil labonte
You know, there's a lot of people that are, you know, you see it on the timeline, the whole like the people that are so conspiracy-brained that they're just like, well, oh, you know, was there another shooter or was this actually shot from behind or whatever?
There are a couple people that do it.
And just pointing out, look, nowadays there are people that are so sure or so determined to not get fooled by the government because the government does lie, right?
I'm not saying that the government doesn't lie.
They definitely send misinformation out, do whatever they can to promote the narrative that they want.
They do lie.
But there are so many people that are determined to not be conned by the government again that they will believe anything just so long as the government doesn't say it didn't say it.
And you can see that by the people that say, I used to believe in UFOs and then the government said they have UFOs.
Now I don't believe in UFOs.
And then that's really what happens.
brett dasovic
It's like the natural reaction of what's happened after the institutions fell, right?
Exactly.
Nobody believes that the colleges anymore.
Nobody believes the government anymore.
phil labonte
And they shouldn't.
brett dasovic
Exactly.
The lack of trust and authority means that you have to look for it elsewhere.
And unfortunately, that leads you down dark paths.
If you don't have the time to go actually investigate all of this stuff, you're going to kind of, it's like not being able to see the forest of the trees.
phil labonte
The real conspiracy is sometimes the government tells the truth.
brett dasovic
Sometimes sometimes things are just what they seem.
And it's just in today's day and age, nobody wants to be a fool.
phil labonte
Yeah, that's the point.
There were so many people that got conned by COVID and so many people bought into it.
And then you hear the way that people are talked about.
If they did get bought, if they did get conned, or if they did believe it, they're like, oh, I don't want that to happen.
So they'll believe anything and everything just so long as it's not the narrative that the government's trying to put forward.
And there's one more thing that I'll say about this.
The worst people in the world are the people that will not only believe anything at all, but then sit there and act like they're act arrogantly towards others about it.
If you're just like, I don't know, man, I don't know, I don't believe anything because blah, blah, blah, that's one thing.
But when you're just like, oh, you're so stupid because you believe the blow, you believe the earth is round?
What a moron you are.
You know, it's like Shane Cashman is the perfect example.
He does, he's skeptical about everything, but he's never condescending.
He's never rude.
He never treats people badly about different beliefs.
And like he believes, he doesn't even believe clouds are real.
You know?
brett dasovic
I think Dean Haglund, he was on the X-Files back in the day, was on a podcast once.
He said, the problem with being a conspiracy theorist is if you're right, all you get to say is I told you so.
tate brown
Literally, yeah.
brett dasovic
That's really like all is like everything, the worst possible thing imagines.
The government covers up the worst thing you've ever thought of in the entire world.
Turns out to be right.
And all you get to say is, I was right.
will tanner
And another thing is, I think a lot of this is the need for politics to be entertainment.
This is a serious moment, a serious moment requiring serious political thought and doing things that will have long-term repercussions and need to be dealt with with that in mind.
It's instead, no, no, I want to be entertained by some nonsense I made up.
And to be entertained, I'm going to continue just coming up with things and pushing things that aren't serious.
And I think that's a huge mistake.
tate brown
Well, and to be fair to these people, like we're coming out of the Biden winner, we're coming out of the Obama years.
So it's like they kind of have been trained and rewarded in many aspects to be like eternal contrarians.
Well, just like gaslit.
So they're not used to the fact that we have like the most right-wing administration probably in our lifetimes, certainly in my lifetime.
And so it's like, I do give these people a bit of grace because, yeah, they came out of an environment where like being a contrarian was actually usually the best way forward.
But yeah, this is, we're in a different paradigm.
Again, a leftist, the person they have is clearly a leftist with the evidence presented.
tim pool
Stay off threads, everybody.
tate brown
Oh, my gosh.
tim pool
I went on threads and it's just blue sky.
If I could explain with a sound, it's that's the sound of all of these posts.
Pictures of Jimmy Kimmel.
Here's one.
Are you kidding?
Imagine if this happened when Biden was present to a Fox News host and they said that about Pelosi's husband.
Imagine.
Oh, I think this person's actually making fun of them.
tate brown
One of our guys is on there.
Brave soul.
tim pool
Being against Antifa literally, by definition, means you are pro-fascism.
tate brown
Oh, they do that thing where they show like the Into the Jaws of Death picture from D-Day and they're like, this is what Antifa looked like.
And I'm like, ask one of those gentlemen what they would think about Blue Haradi.
unidentified
What were their reactions?
tim pool
We're the good guys.
And that's a proper noun.
I have coined the term good guys.
And I'm going to create a flag for a symbol of good guys.
And we will be called the good guys.
And so literally, if you oppose the good guys, you're the bad guys.
That's how it works.
So all of these.
Yeah, all these people who are saying that good guys are bad means they're the bad guys.
That proves it.
tate brown
Sorry, guys.
Libs owned.
tim pool
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70s says, maybe Jimmy can learn to code.
Perhaps he could.
I think he's a little too old, but maybe.
Now with vibe coding, who needs to, right?
Rofflo says, I haven't liked Kimmel since he left the man show.
Good reddance to him.
I don't wish him death, but hopefully he ends up destitute like he wanted all of us to be.
brett dasovic
You can still watch Adam Carolla, though.
tim pool
Where does he go?
What does Jimmy Kimmel do?
I mean, he's rich.
brett dasovic
He starts his own YouTube channel or a podcast.
That's what they all do.
They all start podcasts.
tim pool
Yeah.
Metho says, Grock states construction on the White House ballroom began 9, 12, 25.
Just have to ask it non-political questions to get a straight answer.
There you go.
Making sense with Mikey says, Tim, it's as you predicted.
They use AI to clip out the word, not from the phrase, not very well.
So my prediction for AI videos is: for those that are not familiar, some of you may be, when Trump said there were very fine people on both sides, and I'm not talking about the neo-Nazis or the white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.
I'm not afraid of them making an AI video.
There's one recently of Trump, and he's like, the far left are going to be crushed.
They're bad people.
And everyone's like, oh, but it's not clearly AI.
The scarier thing is when they change when Trump says they should be condemned totally to some should be condemned totally.
So then you see a video of Trump saying, there were fine people on both sides, and I am not talking about the white nationalists or the neo-Nazis because some should be condemned totally.
The liberals will see the some statement, believe it's true.
It's impossible to debunk.
And they'll say he was defending them.
Look, he said only some should be condemned.
And then you'll be like, no, he said they, and no one will know.
And someone who's there will have a false memory and be like, I'm pretty sure he said some.
And they'll go, see, he was there.
And that's the terrifying reality of AI video.
And it's getting better.
AI video is getting better every day.
It is creepy.
AI music, too.
Yikes.
Tywan Cricket says, love the sinner, hate the sin, is about the most anti-Bible concept there is.
Is it?
tate brown
Love the sinner, hate the sin.
Yeah, love the sinner, hate the sin.
Yeah, that's biblical.
phil labonte
Is it anti-Bible?
That was the whole point of like Jesus hanging out with whores and like, you know, like all of the, basically all of the apostles were terrible before they started following Christ.
tate brown
Yeah, if he hated the sinner and the sin, I mean, we'd all be in a bit of trouble, I think, because we're all still sinners.
You make a Christian.
tim pool
Mason M93 says if South Park were still South Park, Cartman would be shot in the neck, Stan would become a Nazi in anger, and Kyle would cry about there being a worse one.
I don't know if I agree completely.
We haven't seen something so egregious.
I mean, since South Park has existed, have we seen anything like this?
brett dasovic
Did you see that Charlie Sheen called what happened to Charlie Kirk, the JFK of our generation?
And even that, I don't know if I believe because we live in a time where we're so bifurcated and so polarized that there is no, like before, like we were talking about earlier, the toppling of the institutions, people had general faith in the government at that time.
So there was a collective consciousness around the country that mourned what happened because we still had faith in our institutions.
And we don't have that anymore.
I don't know if there is such a thing as a JFK incident in the age we live in anymore because people are so divided.
tate brown
Well, and then the Kirk thing is beyond a physical government institution.
It's the institution of civil discourse.
That's what was under attack.
And I think that's why it's particularly horrifying because, yeah, it's gone beyond like a three-letter agency that we've lost faith and we've lost faith in like the foundation.
I mean, the culture of free speech.
tim pool
We got Jessica Posa, these blue sky.
I don't know if this is blue sky or X or whatever.
America has become a full-blown fascist state in under a year.
Trump and his thugs now have three more years to build out state media.
Not by chance that Vance jumped into Kirk's podcast seat the other day.
Nextstar is also part of the state media plan and Jimmy Kimmel both revenge and a warning.
And I'm just like, I just don't care anymore.
Just okay, Trump, be a fascist, whatever.
Like, I'm so sick of the left.
You're sitting in a room and you fart and they start screaming and bashing their face on the table, screaming at you offended them.
And I'm like, Mike, just shut up.
phil labonte
Look at it like this.
If your option is be targeted by the left or empower the government to arrest those people, I'm going to choose empower the government to arrest those people every single time.
This isn't like, oh, it's not a big deal.
Like, Charlie Kirk had done nothing wrong, and they murdered him because some crazy dude that was in love with a trans person decided that he needed to kill Charlie Kirk because Charlie Kirk would have said something as horrible as, you're a man.
tate brown
Well, and also advance doing a live stream is fast.
I mean, what is the fireside chats like propaganda?
Like fashion propaganda.
Now, like, what are we doing here?
will tanner
If the Trump of the left's fever dreams existed, there would be no more left.
phil labonte
That's real.
Look, at the end of, like I said, at the end of the day, they're targeting conservative pundits.
They're literally murdering people.
If my choice is get murdered or empower the government to arrest the people that are doing the murdering, it's not hard.
And every single person in the world would make the same kind of result with the equation.
brett dasovic
And all of these people, I guarantee you, they all cheered on Alex Jones losing a $1.5 billion lawsuit.
tim pool
Yeah.
I got to tell you, Phil, I actually disagree.
If you go to a, there's a large portion of people on the right where if you said far leftists are arming up and heading towards your house to kill you, you can choose the government to protect you or on your own.
They'd walk into their room, grab a bunch of guns, throw a rifle to their buddy and be like, let's ride.
phil labonte
I don't want to talk about that.
Listen, TOS violations are a real thing.
And I ain't that guy.
tate brown
Hating fell in the Fed posting.
phil labonte
I got to read this.
tim pool
Justin G says, hi, Tim.
The Cato Institute posted an analysis claiming violence on the right is more prevalent.
Can you explain how institutes use overbroad classification tactics?
Your streams have helped me recognize this deception.
All you got to do to understand this is look up the definition of a mass shooting and you'll find 15 different definitions.
Then based on the definition you agree with, you can get the answer you want.
So in most of these assessments, they exclude black people.
And so like in Chicago, Baltimore, in St. Louis, in D.C., they won't include those mass shootings.
And they'll go, oh, well, no one really means that.
And I'm kind of like, dude, I don't care what the race of the guy is.
If he takes a Glock or whatever, if he gets a switch and he pulls up to a family barbecue and sprays down 13 people, that's a mass shooting.
But they go, oh, but, oh, and so there's a variety of tactics you can use.
Subjective definitions.
A mass shooting is only when a political motive is stated.
And then what happens is if the government doesn't release the motive, they won't include it.
So you end up with them saying white supremacy is right-wing, despite the fact the most prominent and popular political activists on the conservative side argued for a race-neutral country.
That's not white supremacy.
That's just literally not.
So how is it right-wing?
They just say it.
Go to any conservative at CPAC or whatever, and they're 99%, maybe 95, they're going to be like, I reject all of that stuff.
We don't care about white supremacy or racism.
We're not about that.
Our favorite Supreme Court justice is Clarence Thomas.
In fact, I wish Clarence Thomas would clone himself, have 50 babies and then dominate.
Like, I got to be honest.
If you went to your average one-of-mill conservative and you asked this, if you asked 10 people, you're going to get 9 out of 10, maybe even 10 out of 1 answers.
If you could clone Clarence Thomas or Clarence Thomas had so many babies and grandbabies that all of Congress, the entirety of the Supreme Court, and the executive branch was all just Clarence Thomas's family.
Would you be in favor of that?
They're going to be like, yes.
There's nobody better.
brett dasovic
I want you to take economic advice from Thomas Sewell.
tim pool
Yeah, right, exactly.
And the stupid thing is, you know, like we typically don't even have to say those things.
It's only because the left demands it and calls you racist that we're like, what are you talking about?
Like, we don't actually sit here and be like, I like Larry Elder because he's black.
No, we like Larry Elder because he's Larry Elder.
We like Clarence Thomas for being Clarence Thomas.
We also don't like Katanji Brown Jackson.
What does race have to do with it?
Are their ideas good?
So anyway, what they'll do is they'll define right in any way they want and then claim there's lots of it.
So I'll do this.
How about these inner cities?
They're 80, 90% Democrat, right?
That means gang violence is all leftist political violence.
So let's honest question.
You know what you guys?
Decentralized network time, Tim Cast Discord or viewers.
How about you guys take a look at all of the crime of the past year and then make a chart where any shooting in a predominantly Democrat district area or neighborhood counts as Democrat political violence.
And then you can make a chart showing political violence by political party.
What do you think it's going to show you?
It's going to be 80% Democrat.
But do I really think that the reason a young guy in Chicago shoots another guy is because they're Democrats?
No.
It's because they were slighted, because they were offended, because they're selling drugs or whatever.
But those are the games they play.
unidentified
It's all fake.
tim pool
All right.
Balls are deep says, if any of you have ever read Camp of the Saints, I suggest you do.
unidentified
Hmm.
tim pool
Scary.
What is that?
tate brown
Connor Tomlinson just put a video up breaking down the book because it's this book that was like completely like banned from everybody.
Like you couldn't get it anywhere.
And then now there's a few publishers that have gotten copies and that are selling copies online.
I mean, you could probably give a great breakdown.
will tanner
Yeah, it's a warning tale about mass migration.
At the time, it was set in France of the near future.
And there's a horde of, I think they're from India descending upon the West to pillage it, essentially, and take advantage of social services while committing crimes.
And they get there, and there's no one in the governmental apparatus that's willing to fight back against them, except for a few Christians and one old aristocrat.
And so they do this last stand where they try and fight this just overwhelming horde of humanity that's crashing across the border.
And, well, it's a dire book.
tate brown
So yeah, and the funny part is the just based on Rome?
will tanner
Yeah.
tate brown
Well, and the horde is one million people.
It says in the book, it's just one million people.
tim pool
Do you guys know the story of World of Warcraft?
tate brown
No.
tim pool
I recommend you look up the story of World of Warcraft.
will tanner
What's the lore?
tim pool
So there's a, I'll give you the really, really overtly simple version.
But there's a planet called Azeroth, and there are humans and there are elves.
And one day, a horde bursts through of angry orcs and starts cutting down trees, trampling, taking over, settling.
And I think the very original story of Warcraft was that the orcs came through a great portal, the dark portal, and then started taking over Azeroth, and the humans had to repel them and fight back.
The story evolved quite dramatically to be that there is a fell, dark energy that possessed the orcs.
The orcs were actually shamanic people.
They were tribal and not crazy.
But the gist of the story, basically, is that a horde of orcs come through a portal and start taking over, you know, Azeroth and go to war.
will tanner
Camp of the Saints is where the quote you see all over X comes from, where it's, your universe has no meaning to them.
They will not try to understand.
They will be tired.
They'll be cold.
They'll make a fire with your beautiful oak door.
Right.
tim pool
Yeah.
But it's true.
And it's not, I would say this.
It is not denigrating to a group of people to suggest that they would eat cats or dogs.
And I think it's actually offensive that liberals get offended by it.
When liberals were like, how dare you accuse them of eating cats and dogs?
And I'm like, have you ever been anywhere in the world?
They eat roaches too.
frank turek
Yeah.
tim pool
Bugs are food.
And Americans get all woo-woo about it.
And I'm like, well, you know, they don't taste that good.
But if they come from the ocean, bugs are delicious.
If they're on land, bugs are no good.
And then they get offended that we would suggest they'd eat cats.
I'm like, bro, animals are animals.
People all over the world eat whatever they can get their hands on.
They eat dogs in Southeast Asia and they don't care.
Like if you went to a Vietnamese guy and be like, hey, you eat dog, he'd be like, yes.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Okay.
And you eat chickens.
And if you go to India, they'll be like, ha, you eat cows.
And we'll be like, we do, and we love them.
They'll be like, oh, that's ridiculous.
phil labonte
Talking about eating dogs makes me want to do TOS violations as well.
tate brown
Well, and we're eating, we're drinking slop water over here.
Are we much better?
Are we much better off?
tim pool
Slop butter.
unidentified
Yeah.
tate brown
Yeah.
They're probably in Haiti.
Like, they eat like, can you believe it's not butter?
They eat that.
tim pool
Oh, bro.
phil labonte
In Haiti, they're like, they don't eat humans?
unidentified
They're like barbecue's like, that's their buddy.
That's Liberia.
tim pool
That's Liberia.
It is.
In Haiti, they're like, look what they eat.
It's, I can't believe it's not butter.
And they're like, what is it?
Like, we don't know.
It's like plastic.
And they put it on bread.
phil labonte
And they're like, oh.
tim pool
And they're eating butter.
will tanner
They're buying mud cookies.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I was going to say, mud cookies, they eat those in Haiti, which is incredible.
tim pool
What do they do?
It's like a little bit of salt and sugar.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And they butter.
And they boil the mud so that way, like, there's not stuff that'll kill you in it anymore.
tate brown
It pairs excellently with Siamese cat.
tim pool
Yeah, they're mud cookies.
It's like a little butter, sugar, and salt in mud.
So there is some calories to it, and it will make the hunger pang stop.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
But you're eating dirt.
Hey, I read that soil does have nutritional value, though.
It's just like humans can't really survive off of it.
tate brown
Bader O'Rourke loves soil.
He ate a lot of it.
tim pool
I bought this book that's like how to restart civilization, and it talks about how to eat leaves.
And it's really cool.
It's really cool.
phil labonte
I thought you just unplugged it and plugged it back in.
tim pool
The book?
phil labonte
No, how to restart civilization.
tim pool
Yeah, it's really cool.
It's got like all the basics of, I got an ad for it on Instagram because they were like, Tim, we know who you are.
And, you know, they do.
And so I bought it.
And like the way you eat leaves is you're supposed to like take a leaf, rip it, rub it on your skin, wait 10 to 15 minutes.
Then you rub it on the side of your lip, wait 10 to 15 minutes.
Then you bite it, chew on it, spit it out, wait 10 to 15 minutes.
Then you eat half a leaf, wait a couple hours.
If none of that causes any problems, you eat a little bit, wait a couple hours, and then it's probably safe to eat.
Ton of cool stuff in there, you know.
But you're probably not going to get enough nutrition from eating leaves, to be completely honest.
phil labonte
You need a second stomach for that.
tim pool
Yeah, might as well just wait for the deer to come by.
I got to eat them all.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Let's see what we get.
Samuel Rai says, never forget this feeling.
Yep.
Soul123 says this is brutal, but needs to be shared all over the internet.
The left is psychotic and evil.
We cannot coexist with them anymore.
They are evil.
Yeah, that video from that was posted from Frank Turk, I think was his name?
Yep.
That's one of Charlie's real good friends.
And it's a horrifying video.
And that's why it's unacceptable.
Look, Hollywood Reporter said Jimmy Kimmel was not going to apologize.
Like, we are at a crossroads in this country.
We are, this is it.
A friend of mine, this is wild to say, someone I've known for decades posted a video of a woman pointing to an article about Donald Trump.
I forgot exactly what it was about.
Some kind of action that he was taking, targeting, you know, antifire or something.
And then the next video from the woman, because it was a story, was her explaining the Reichstag fire, as if to imply that Donald Trump killed Charlie Kirk intentionally to justify the expansion of his control in the state.
And so I'm sitting here being like, this is a person I've known for decades who's a good friend of mine, suggesting that my friend was killed by his friends to justify an expansion of a fascist state, which is just absolutely insane.
will tanner
Well, also, the communists actually did set the Reichstag on fire, which, you know, they still did it.
Should we let them burn down Congress just because it would be mean to stop them?
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Also, just remember the person who's pointing that, like, everybody that they know is going to be like, and you're a conspiracy theorist.
tate brown
Yeah.
tim pool
All right.
The real, actually, I want to say something real quick.
You know, as Phil makes comments about TOS violations, good luck, YouTube.
Your TOS, YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, whatever, will not exist in a civil war state.
Impossible.
You look at the troubles in Northern Ireland.
There is no way to operate a social media platform that coexists with these two groups because they are both justifying and celebrating the death of each other.
So what do you do?
You open up Twitter and it's everyone with big fake smiles just going like this.
Everything's fine.
And then you look out the window and a bomb goes off.
Your social media platform will not work when you have two distinct moral worldviews.
Because I can put it like this.
You can go on social media and express a universal evil is evil because everyone agrees.
Where there is a bifurcation is when you get into trouble.
The TOS violations largely center around the political views of the people in control of the platform.
This is what Jack Dorsey argued.
The reason why they banned misgendering was because certainly literally everybody agrees it's wrong.
And then I was like, no, they don't.
Conservatives have an inverted worldview.
They think misgendering is if you call a man a woman, not their preferred pronoun.
And Dorsey was flabbergasted.
These people genuinely thought the rules they set were the majority of the country.
And the people who are complaining were the fringe weirdos.
When you have an active civil war type scenario, what do you do?
How are you going to enforce the terms of service?
phil labonte
I imagine you kind of don't, I guess.
I mean, well, unless you assume because of the way that the way that civil wars generally behave is the companies will align with whoever the government is seeing is right.
tim pool
Indeed.
In which case, perhaps they just start banning all the leftists because Trump is in power.
Maybe.
Kimmel got fired.
But I'll put it like this.
Did anybody get banned from social media for celebrating the death of Soleimani?
phil labonte
No, no.
tim pool
That's right, because they're enemy combatants at war.
Even though Donald Trump launched a drone strike on a guy, I think it was a drone strike, right?
He was in Iraq, I believe.
And then people all across social media celebrated it.
Twitter didn't ban anybody.
Facebook didn't ban anybody.
They said whatever.
So what happens when you're an active civil war and you have the same scenario?
I suppose you're right.
If Trump is in power and he has the color of law underneath his belt, then they'll just start banning the left.
And that is a massive weapon for the administration.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I don't see how the left can win without communications.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, I don't know.
Well, considering the makeup of the left in the United States, I agree.
They're not particularly capable.
When you see the threads of what they're going to do after the collapse or whatever, it's all like, you know, give each other massages and I'm going to own a farm and whatever kind of, you know, I'm going to write catboy poetry or whatever.
You know, so I don't imagine that these people are particularly prepared for any kind of kinetic conflict in reality.
tate brown
You know, you even saw it Chaz in Seattle where they tried to like start a garden, but they just put like soil top cardboard.
So like, they're cooked.
tim pool
Man, have you ever seen when they gave the spider various drugs to see what it would do?
They took a spider or multiple spiders and they gave them different drugs.
And they're like, here's a normal spider web and it's beautiful.
Then they were like, here's when we give it meth.
And it's all like just big, thick, straight lines.
They're like, here's caffeine.
And it's just like two lines across.
And they were like, the drugs had profound effects on the spider.
That's how I feel when I see the Chaz Chop farm.
It was like, take a human, give them a bunch of drugs and weird mental disorders, and that's how they try to farm.
The aliens watching were like, that's sad.
It's like behavioral sync.
brett dasovic
I feel that way about a lot of like all the discourse that we see with everything going on in the world.
Like how much is it actually affected by people are just on all a cocktail of uppers, downers, antidepressants?
You know, as somebody who has been through all of that, like a lot of people these days, they're just not living life with a clear head and it makes the world a much, much different place.
tim pool
Josh Hatt says, Tim, we all need to take a step back and chill.
Maybe you don't realize it, but we just won and the public wants unity.
And the public will get unity when the terrorists who are engaging in acts of violence are stopped.
The public wants unity, agreed.
A man was just murdered.
How do we get it?
When far left rioters who burned down cities for the better part of 15 years are brought to justice and people feel like we have some semblance of peace.
But if Trump just says, you're right, you want unity, I'm backing off.
The left will come back with a vengeance and they'll kill more people.
They're already threatening to kill many, many more people, including myself.
The only way to get that unity that the public wants, and I agree I want it too, like I always say, nobody should want war.
War is a nightmare.
What I want is to kick back on my couch, put my feet up, order some hot wings, put on a poker match or something from WPT, or maybe we'll play some video games and I'll enjoy some nice wins with my buddies and we'll talk about games or whatever.
The simplest of surface level luxuries.
Maybe you like football and you want to talk about the crazy parlays you've got planned out and you do John FanDuel, whatever.
Awesome.
Let's go, baby.
How do we get there?
Well, the people who are stabbing, bombing, shooting need to be arrested and taken off the streets so the violence stops.
That means Trump's going to have to enforce the law against them and then we might get some peace.
And I'm going to say it.
The left is trying to create this world where they're like, if the National Guard are deployed, it's a nightmare.
No, if the National Guard are deployed and they start pushing people around and unjustly searching and stealing your stuff and forcing money from your pockets, that's a nightmare.
The National Guard walking around happens literally all the time and they don't cause problems.
So there's a difference between deploying law enforcement and corrupt law enforcement.
Now, I understand the libertarian fear that if you have National Guard out for too long, eventually you will get corruption.
For the short duration, I'm not so sure that I'm worried about that right now because the alternative is dying.
I'd prefer not to.
I've grown quite fond of living.
will tanner
Well, also the framing on that is, I think, incorrect.
We didn't win.
We were given a martyr, sadly, whose death might enable us to win by, as you said, cracking down on the people who want to kill us.
You can't unify with someone who's pointing a gun at your head.
tim pool
And you know what's terrifying is that the left succeeded by pushing the line slowly.
That's how they were gaining ground consistently because it was scary enough to where you didn't want to fight them, but they weren't massacring people.
Then this guy killed Charlie Kirk, a moderate guy, a debater, and it's terrified everybody.
They pushed too hard and the line broke.
And now Trump is like, that's it.
You have pushed too far.
So I say, fine, let's get some law enforcement.
But my friends, we're going to go to that uncensored members only portion of the show, which is going to get hot.
And that is an understatement.
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It's extremely important because communication is the most powerful tool in any conflict.
And that's a fact.
Crazy.
The stories of human communication and warfare is really awesome.
Drums, trumpets, then radios, satellites, hidden letters and jackets on motorcycles.
Communications is key.
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will tanner
Yeah, if you are interested in this sort of thing or colonial history, check me out on Substack.
It's theAmericantribune.news.
I write about stuff like this all the time and post about it on Twitter.
But I think you'd find it enjoyable and interesting, even if it's about depressing and sad subjects like this.
tate brown
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Give me a follow there.
brett dasovic
Guys, if you want to follow me, I am on X and Instagram at Brett Dasovic on both of those platforms.
But what you should do is check out Pop Culture Crisis.
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See you there.
phil labonte
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Not anymore.
You can follow the band All That Remains on YouTube, Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, and Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool
You're not Phil That Remains anymore?
phil labonte
No, well, not Phil That Remains Official on Instagram.
I'm not.
I don't have the Instagram anymore.
tim pool
Oh, all right, everybody.
Again, we'll see you all at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
Thanks for hanging out.
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You guys rock.
Do you see that, Surge?
It's like, there's too many people that are signing up to join the Discord server.
It's like, no, that's all right.
We appreciate it.
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That is our Discord chat, which is active 24-7.
And you can actually call in, call into the show.
And so what we're going to do is we're going to talk about some real fucked up shit, and we're going to swear, not so family friendly.
CBS News, three police officers killed, two wounded in York County, Pennsylvania, shooting suspect dead.
So it's a horrifying story, but I'm just going to say it again.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Is that?
phil labonte
Yeah, that's the car accident.
tim pool
That was the car accident?
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
Wow.
brian stelter
Fuck.
tim pool
Holy shit.
phil labonte
He must have been going 100 miles an hour.
tim pool
I can't believe that I was watching the news and I saw a press conference about this.
And I was like, I walked in after taking a shower and I walk in the living room and there's a TV.
And I'm like, whoa, what the fuck is going on?
And I'm like, I see a press conference and I'm like, whoa, what?
What?
This is what Civil War looks like.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
When you turn on the news and every other story is about some kind of bombing, shooting, conflict, crisis.
phil labonte
The police, like there were five officers involved in this, or more, but three killed, two wounded, with only one suspect.
That police, like that specific police force, they really need to look at their training.
Like three police officers shouldn't die taking on one suspect.
Like they should.
I don't know the context surrounding it.
So I can't say, oh, this happened or that happened.
But if you've got three cops, like this guy shouldn't have been able to take out three cops and wound two more, you know?
tim pool
So all over Threads right now.
Actually, can I pull up threads?
Will that like how do you how do you go to threads?
Threads.com?
Is that oh, it is?
It's not going to show me anything, though, is it?
phil labonte
Give a threads count.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
phil labonte
Actually, you should because you got a Tim Got Tim Poole.
tim pool
Yeah, but I can't fucking log in.
unidentified
I'm just, this is like you, what?
tim pool
Oh, there's nothing here.
It's just when you pull it up, it's all really generic, non-political stuff.
And for, oh, here's Midas Touch from six hours ago.
Trump admin officials are pressuring federal prosecutors in Virginia to indict Letitia James, blah, blah, blah.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
So when I go on, it's nothing but politics.
And of course, they're saying what you'd expect them to say, which is Donald Trump has just made it illegal to oppose fascism.
So that's a huge, huge step up and escalation.
What do you guys think?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, it's ridiculous.
Like making it the idea that Antifa exists to oppose fascism is ridiculous.
They exist to oppose any form of government save communism.
Like they exist to oppose international borders.
They exist to oppose any type of, I mean, basically any type of property rights.
They exist to oppose everything that makes a functional society possible.
tim pool
They're calling for boycotts.
There's a bunch of ABC, Hulu, and Disney.
I don't think they realize that Marvel is more popular than your fucking politics guy.
brett dasovic
And I can't because the first episode of High Potential Season 2 just came out on Hulu and I have to watch that when I get home.
I can't boycott right now.
tim pool
I know.
And I like to watch seasons one through nine of The Simpsons, and that's only on Hulu.
brett dasovic
Hulu is the best of all.
tim pool
Actually, it's not.
It's on Disney Plus and not Hulu, which is weird.
tate brown
A soy lenny boycott of Disney World could probably demoralize the entire movement.
tim pool
Who owns Harry Potter?
Warner Brothers?
brett dasovic
Warner Brothers.
tim pool
Oh, okay.
So what network is that?
Oh, oh, wait, wait, wait.
Aren't they going to buy it?
No, there was what was it that was Paramount was going to put in an soy jacks are going to stop watching Star Wars?
tate brown
They can't.
tim pool
Yeah, right.
frank turek
Nobody watches Stars.
tate brown
They would rather Star Wars than fight fascists.
tim pool
Oh, that's funny.
They canceled the Ecolyte.
They were like, lesbian space witches made the force.
And then wasn't there a scene?
I didn't watch it, but I saw a meme where like a person, the lightsaber turned red.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like when you become evil, the lightsaber changes color.
brett dasovic
As somebody who doesn't care about Star Wars, that was a rough one to watch.
phil labonte
Ridiculous.
tim pool
What was it?
Was it the lesbian space witches that got you?
brett dasovic
It was.
tate brown
Can you imagine we're presenting a paradigm?
You can either have a fascist government or you can have the Mandalorian.
And I think they're going to pick the Mandalorian.
I don't think they're actually down for the cause, the soy lennys.
tim pool
Well, like, most of the soy guys are like, bro, I was just trying to get late.
I don't want to fucking go to jail.
unidentified
Yeah.
brett dasovic
Well, yeah, they say it's all of the dinks going to the Disney parks.
They're not going to boycott.
unidentified
The dinks.
brett dasovic
The dual-income no-kids, if you don't know what that means.
unidentified
We're dinks.
tim pool
We can do whatever we want.
Do you guys think?
brett dasovic
Killing off their bloodline happily.
tim pool
I imagine Antifa is going to react.
I imagine that Antifa is going to have massive recruitments now.
Like, it's not going to be, here's what I think.
Here's the body politic.
Trump says Antifa terror.
And so you've got the right and the left.
The right's going to encompass more of the more liberal leaning people.
But of those that are like staunch liberal, they're going to join Antifa.
So I imagine it like if this country is 50-50 Democrat Republican, it's like kind of not.
It'll be 60-40, 60% Republican with liberals leaning Republican or at least siding with Republicans.
And then of that 40%, a large portion will join the far left.
brett dasovic
Of which part?
Can you say that again?
Of which part?
tim pool
So if the country right now is 50-50 left and right, Democrat Republican.
brett dasovic
You said staunch liberals joining the far left?
unidentified
Yes.
brett dasovic
Okay.
tim pool
So that means people who are in the middle of the left quadrant.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
So they are like maybe voting for AOC, but couldn't tell you what the fuck communism really was.
They will start going to Antifa meetings and being like, how do I wear a mask and what do I do?
And then meanwhile, the more middle-of-the-road default libs are going to be like, I'm with Trump.
This is fucking, this is fucked up.
But that means you'll have an increase in lunatics dressing in all black, causing problems.
This is why I was predicting yesterday, in one year, there will be another high-profile political assassination of someone on the right.
Now, again, I say that, but that's about six or seven percent probability based on all the variables from now to then, creating a diminishing return, exponential rate of failure.
But looking at what we're seeing now, I think the reason for that is because it'll be before the midterms.
I think that this is going to heavily favor Republicans in the midterms.
The left is going to overreact to this.
Antifa will overreact to this.
It will cause problems for the perception of the left, emboldening people to vote Republican.
In their desperation, they've already killed Charlie Kirk.
That means moving forward, conversation is not working for them.
The threat of force isn't working for them.
They will escalate their tactics to just kill the guy who's leading the charge against us, which is where we already are.
When the midterm's coming up, they're not going to be winning.
And Trump's going to be like, we got great numbers.
unidentified
And when we get Congress, we're going to remove them all.
tim pool
And then these Antifa guys are going to be like, we have no choice.
We are about to be destroyed.
We have no choice.
And then it's going to take, all it takes is one crazy guy.
There'll be another assassination.
And then what happens is this will cause a 10, 12% spike for Republicans, entrenching a supermajority of some or strong majority.
I do believe there is a 94% chance that does not happen.
It is a very low probability.
I'm giving it.
I'm saying that based on the current circumstances as of today.
And this only leans into my theory.
brett dasovic
Are you seeing that?
Are you thinking it's going to be somebody in the political space or somebody in the commentary space?
Because when you say, I understand when we say political assassination, it's because Charlie Kirk.
tim pool
It's going to be a prominent, it could be both.
Okay.
Anybody high profile who organizes and rallies people on the right.
The left is already desperate.
They are losing.
They've lost institutional power.
Their TV shows don't control shit anymore.
The Democrats are fucking wiped.
I mean, like Hillary Clinton types are wiped out.
And so I think right now the trajectory that we have before us is increased desperation, culminating in a pre-midterm strike out of fear that the Republicans are going to get entrenched and win, which actually will have that effect.
However, a meteor can fucking slam into the ocean tomorrow, so who knows what the fuck?
Or Trump could have a heart attack, or JD Vance could resign.
I have no fucking idea.
brett dasovic
You're more up on this than I would be, but isn't Zoran Mamdani doing really, really well in the polls over in New York?
Is he just the outlier then?
phil labonte
No, he's doing really well, but Eric Adams has been talking about dropping out.
tate brown
No, he doubles down.
phil labonte
He's refusing?
tim pool
He doubled down.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
tim pool
Yeah, he was like, I ain't joining Trump.
Yup.
will tanner
Well, I think you asked why they're pushing this fascist messaging about you can't fight fascism now or whatever.
It's the old Olinski, you have to sharpen the distinctions.
So amongst their followers, amongst the people who are paying attention, are you a fascist?
Are you going to go along with it?
Or are you an actual anti-fascist where you're going to do these things, what you're describing, whether it's hurling diesel batteries at random conservatives, whether it's ambushing cops, whether it's murdering a political figure, it's all part of that in terms of trying to foist revolution on the country by pushing people into it and getting them to think about, oh no, you're like in World War II or whatever, fighting fascism.
tim pool
Indeed.
Let's go to callers.
We're going to pull in the Gracie, but make sure you guys who are watching on Rumble, join Rumble Premium because we're about to go premium exclusive.
And this is where the conversation gets fun.
And join our Discord if you want to be a caller.
Gracie, what is up?
unidentified
Hi.
It's a pleasure to speak with you all.
tim pool
Howdy.
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