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VP Says No Unity With Democrats Celebrating Charlie Kirk Assassination, Left Confirmed | Timcast IRL

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Today, Vice President J.D. Vance filled in for Charlie Kirk on his show in the noon hour on Rumble.
		And it was an amazing show with many interviews.
		And in it, near the end, J.D. Vance says there will be no unity with those who are celebrating the death, the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
		He wanted to describe this problem among many Democrats, but not all, he says, but many.
		where they scream vitriol, celebrate death, call for more assassinations, and indeed, they still are.
		And not just that.
		After it became apparent that Charlie Kirk was particularly beloved nationally, with football teams, baseball teams, offering moments of silence in his honor, the left changed their narrative.
		With many prominent liberals remaining silent out of fear, they began to emerge saying, in fact, it was Nick Fuentes and the Gripers who killed Charlie Kirk for, in fact, not being far right enough.
		Even now, Axios is debunking these lies from prominent, mainstream, middle-of-the-road Democrat personalities.
		And that is the scary thing about what we are seeing.
		You see, they say the right is responsible for all the violence.
		The right is much more dangerous, they go on TV and say.
		But here's what they're doing.
		They're saying that some crackpot white supremacist who lives in the woods is the same thing as Charlie Kirk, when, in fact, Charlie Kirk would denounce in two seconds, and, in fact, preached a race-neutral country, and even called black children a gift from God.
		But they'll lie.
		They'll say Charlie was also a white supremacist, therefore, all of the right is bad.
		Now, in the inverse, mainstream, moderate liberals are defending the suspected shooter, obfuscating his ideology, covering it up, and lying about the engravings on the bullets, because they realize they actually support this.
		the motivation for the shooter may be transgender ideology.
		At least that's what six independent sources, according to Axios have stated that he was a lover, that his lover was trans, and that was probably the motivator.
		The governor says he was leftist radicalized.
		He was an ideologue.
		Mainstream Democrats support gender ideology.
		And it appears this was the motivation for the killing.
		That is, this this individual, the suspect in question right now, Cash Patel says he confessed on Discord.
		This individual is closer to mainstream Democrat than many people want to believe.
		So we'll talk about that.
		Plus, we've got many more stories.
		Some of them are particularly brutal.
		We've got one of a liberal who effectively states.
		Well, actually, I'll give you the quote.
		A prominent liberal streamer, Destiny said, if you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, president, or he says, I'm sorry, I gotta make sure I get this right.
		If you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Trump should not have been president in the second term.
		He's telling you, if you go and vote for who you think should be president, you should expect to die.
		You should expect your friends to die, your leaders to die.
		And it's your fault.
		That's what he's saying.
		That's how insane it is getting in this country.
		So we're gonna talk about that.
		Sorry for making this one a bit longer, but we've got a lot of stories to break through in terms of what's going on with this investigation, the story.
		And uh, did you guys know that two men were caught trying to plant a bomb on a Fox News truck in Utah?
		It's getting crazy out there.
unidentified		Utah's crazy.
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		Okay.
		Charlie was a friend, and this news is it was extremely pressing.
		That being said, there is a challenge in how we move forward as people, as professionals, as news and commentary individuals, and with running a business and having contracts and all that, recognize we're gonna try and get back to our daily routine while still honoring Charlie's legacy and reporting the details about what has happened so far.
		So, my friend, smash that like button, share the show with everyone, you know.
		Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Slow Jack.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		What's going on?
		What's going on, Papel?
		Thanks for having me on.
		I feel like uh overdressed, my cap on, everyone else is looking nice in the black t-shirts, black actually, you got the suit on, Mike.
		Looking good.
		The penguin out here.
		Hello, you know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Taking it seriously.
		Yeah, well, uh, who are you?
		What do you do?
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I'm at music.
		Wait a while, look.
		Do I look at the camera?
		Do I look at any you guys look around?
		I'll look up there.
		What's going on, Papal?
		I'm Slow Jack.
		I'm at music for a living, but on lawn, I'm known for just science stuff, talking shit, basically.
		And then all the accent is banned funny.
unidentified		Might.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		That's basically it.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for having me on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Take cool man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Take the producer is here.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		What's going on, everybody?
		Tate Brown here.
		Uh, happy to be here.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm Shane Cashman, and I think Destiny needs an exorcism.
		Uh tonight at 10, I'll be going live with Inverted World Live.
		I'm gonna be talking about uh the American death cult, terror cells, uh, accelerationism, gleeful demons, and after all that, I probably get into how NASA has banned Chinese nationals and uh alien life form.
		Now might be going out of a meteorite.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		On my uh on my new YouTube channel, which is at Tim Poole, I made a video called It's Time to Bring Back Exorcisms.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's actually for it's a small channel, it's brand new.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's got like 35,000 subs, but it's 60,000 views already in the video with everyone being like, yep.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can't deny it.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		There's evil everywhere.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		There's ghouls everywhere.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		You say 'em's see them walking around the street.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I tend to think that destiny needs law enforcement personally.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think exorcism plus law enforcement.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		So just like that, you should be the one doing it.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm ready.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Hello, everybody.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		My name is Bill Labonte.
		I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, all that remains.
		I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
		Let's get into it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's the news from PBS.org.
		JD Vance says national unity is impossible with those celebrating Charlie Kirk's killing.
		Vice President Vance said Monday while hosting Charlie Kirk's radio show that he is desperate for national unity after the conservative political activists' killing.
		But that finding common ground with people who celebrated the assassination of his friend is impossible.
		The Republican vice president filled in his host of the Charlie Kirk show from his ceremonial office in the Eisenhower executive office building next to the White House.
		The live stream of the two hour program was broadcast in the White House press briefing room and featured a series of appearances by White House and administrative officials who knew the 31-year-old Kirk.
		Vance, who transported Kirk's body home from Utah to Arizona aboard Air Force Two last week, opened by saying that he was filling in for somebody who cannot be filled in for, but I'll do my best.
		In his closing remarks, Vance criticized what he said were lies about Kirk that he blamed for the killing.
		He also promised that the Trump administration will act to stop anyone who will kill another person because of their words.
		I'm desperate for a country to be I'm desperate for our country to be united in condemnation of the actions and the ideas that killed my friend.
		I want it so badly that I'll tell you a difficult truth.
		We can only have it with people who acknowledge that political violence is unacceptable.
		Well, here's the challenge, Mr. Vice President, with all due respect.
		I do agree.
		There are many prominent middle-of-the-road liberals associated with prominent mainstream liberal organizations who have been putting out lies.
		They've been making little comic strips, flooding the Internet with lies to trick the left and liberals, the moderates, to...
		That the assassin of Charlie Kirk was a groiper.
		They are framing Nick Fuentes.
		And I think their strategy was Nick Fuentes is kind of a boogeyman even to conservatives, so if they blame him, conservatives will just say okay, which is not the case.
		No one's gonna do that.
		That's not true.
		And there's even an article from Axios debunking the lies.
		What we believe to be true as of now, according to Cash Patel, the governor of Utah, Axios is reporting with six individual sources.
		Mind you, the media has no problem reporting things with a single anonymous source, but this time they have six.
		Saying the motivation for the assassination likely was the shooter's transgender lover.
		And the left is lying about it.
		So when JD Vance tries to be diplomatic, and I respect it, saying we can't have unity with those that are celebrating the assassination of Kirk.
		My question then becomes, and for everyone here is can we have unity with those that are lying to cover up the assassin's motive to justify the killing of Charlie Kirk?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		No, no unity.
		I so refreshing seeing JD Vance say this because the the line from the GOP, or not the entire GOP, but from a lot of GOP around uh Ratchet's like right off the rip was guys, peace and unity, let's all come together.
		Like this is a battle between good and evil, and it was very vague, it was not precise whatsoever.
		So it's so refreshing that Trump and Vance have gotten up here and straightened out everyone's rhetoric here.
		Because it's like okay, sure, good and evil.
		That's that's downstream from left versus right.
		That's exactly what's going on here.
		One side is evil and has demonstrated that we should be killed for our beliefs, and then the other side is just saying, let's have a debate.
		So it's just so refreshing to see this because I mean there were so many senators and and congressmen that came out and did the whole peace and unity rhetoric, and it's like just not precise and not pointed to what's going on at all.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		All that all that stuff's out the window at that point, Matt.
		You say, you know, people are like, oh, but what about coming together?
		It's like, Mike, people are dead.
		People have been shot.
		And I'm just I just look at it.
		I start understand how we even got here, and it might I don't get upset much, man.
		But like, just as a dude, I don't like saying people get shot and just I just don't understand why people it's why it's such a conundrum, mate.
		This they've just demonstrated that they they're done with us, you know.
		And and if they want people like Charlie gone, imagine what they want for someone who's got similar beliefs like you or me or whatever.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, this is this is a an important point.
		Charlie Kirk was a moderate, yeah, traditional conservative.
		What do you think that means for everybody else?
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Well, he was the guy I wanted to have a conversation.
		They took out the guy, the only the only true guy.
		Well, there were many, but he's the main guy just wanted to talk, mine.
		He went straight to the uni, straight to the colleges, whatever you call them.
		We call them uni's.
		But straight to the source mine, like a boss, like a run mine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And with all due respect to Mileonopoulos, who acknowledges he's not the nice guy.
		Milo, Milo did his college tours, and he was snooty and snarky and snapped back at these people.
		Yeah, Charlie told some he didn't insult these people, he would say, God bless you and I love you.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		See that tweight where it was like it was like, you took out the nice guy, now you got Milo.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I would love to see Milo return to the college tour.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We asked him to do it.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he'd be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And he went, I'm 40.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's it's worth it's worth pointing out though, like, because there are people on the left that are gonna try to to act as if what Vice President Vance said was blanket statement about the whole left and all of the Democrats.
		And he was you like you said, he was precise.
		He specifically was talking about the far left, the crazies, and he did acknowledge there are there are Democrats that are that are that are not out of their mind.
		There are Democrats that do not endorse violence and stuff, and so it's worth pointing that out only because there are gonna be people, and you're seeing it on X all day long.
		Vance has done this, Vance, blah, blah, blah, Vance, how how terrible, how terrible.
		He did call for unity with normal Democrats, but the people that are actually celebrating his murder, the people that are saying, let's start lists of other conservatives, this is a good thing.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot of people.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		That's not that's not five dudes.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean that's like a hundred, I agree a hundred percent.
		And and that's why it's so I think why so many people are so shocked about the response.
		But like I said, I think it's important that we acknowledge that, or at least point out Vance was not talking about all Democrats, and he made that distinction clear.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		The thing is, they've mainstreamed political bloodlust since COVID.
		Yes, I mean, your neighbors started looking at you as a monster in 2020 during lockdowns, they wanted you to die.
		They were like, We're not gonna, we're not gonna give you care if you don't get the thing we want you to take.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, that's it.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		So it's just like the culmination of the thing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You want to destroy your life.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're seeing this and we're seeing people get fired from their jobs.
		And I think J.D. Vance may uh even had uh made mention to that.
		I don't want to misquote him, so I'm not gonna try and paraphrase, but I don't care.
		They they they're these people, these liberals are coming out and saying, Oh no, right wing cancel culture, and my attitude is I agreed with the left when they said there are certain things that you can't say in public.
		The problem was they were pushing the line like they were they they they were they were forwarding the line like they were running across a football field full speed.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so people were getting swept up and being told that things they'd said 10 years ago were unacceptable today, even though they didn't say it today, and getting fired from their jobs.
		I have no problem saying at any point, 10 years ago, 20 years ago, or today, if you go to your job and start yelling about how you're glad someone got killed because they deserved it while you cackle like a fiend.
		If the boss said you're making people uncomfortable, you need to leave.
		I would have said, Yeah, that's that's insane.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		It's reasonable.
		It's not digging up a twite from 12 years ago saying you said something insensitive when you were 13 or an Xboxing of you walking down the street.
		It's someone gone to work like Yeah.
		If you have a soul you don't want to have anyone that like that around with working at McDonald's, yeah, on that seven year old ergomite.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		But like even worse than that, I think if you have a soul, you have to understand that the people who are celebrating this and dancing on his grave, they need to be removed from society.
		Like if if they're teaching your kid, they can't be involved with your kids' education.
		If they're in charge of your health care, they can't be in charge of your healthcare.
		Like that's insane.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Doctors and teachers everywhere, mind.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		There's that article from uh a teacher in in Canada showing fifth graders the video.
unidentified		Yep.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		You know, that's a lot like what happened in the culture revolution when they would drag people out into the public square in China and make uh children watch decapitations and make the children sing the national the Chinese national anthem while the heads rolled from the bodies.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I've never heard of that.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's it's gross stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you know what I think is the sh one of the terrifying there's a tweet that I saw.
		I remember when the uh war with Israel and Iran broke out, and there was all the planes and the air traffic was going around Israel and Iran, that whole area, and then one UAE flight went straight over, and then the the the joke someone tweeted was I I deleted all of my social media I deleted all my social media, and honestly, my mental health has never been better, and they're flying straight over Iran.
		We get the point.
		It's not yes, ignorance is bliss.
		And someone tweeted in reference to the story when if you delete your social media, you won't see it when they come to kill you.
		And that's actually kind of terrifying because what we are seeing this was in response to all of the people posting, they want you dead, and not just that, lists have been made with many names.
		My name is on many of those lists, as well as many other conservative commentators.
		Docs lists and all that stuff, docs lists, addresses, and they're saying them next.
		There's videos of people saying, Why just him?
		Go for the rest now.
		I'm waiting.
		There's one there there's there's just too many of these.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Oh my, they they sign you can look up the word next, next place on Twitter, and you can say a list of people who people call them for.
		I think it's disgusting, man.
		Why is how's this been made mindstream?
		Just dead.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They've been conditioned by their media diet.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Like you said, like conditioned.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Institutions are controlled by their allies and never censored or shut them down.
		The right doesn't do this.
		The mainstream right, traditional conservatives, what is what is Charlie what did Charlie Kirk say?
		Race neutral country.
		Your race isn't what matters.
		Your ideas and your and your willingness to work.
		So what did they do?
		Matty Hassan tweeted out a page of out of context quotes from Charlie Kirk to justify why he's dead, saying that he was a bigot and a racist.
		Now, of course, he'll tell you, oh no, no, I'm not I'm not trying to justify that he's dead.
		But we know that's exactly what they what they're doing.
		Because there's no reason to lie about someone in such a dramatic way.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the reality is, Charlie Kirk was nice.
		He did not believe these psychotic things they're lying about.
		He never said black women didn't have brain processing power.
		They made that up.
		They're doing that because a someone whose ideology is aligned with the mainstream Democrat Party.
		That is the important thing is people keep saying this guy was a leftist.
		Wrong answer.
		I won't call him a leftist.
		This guy was liberal aligned.
		He was left aligned.
		Why?
		What are leftists?
		Antifa marching through the street with masks on, screaming antica pizza lista.
		It's fringe stuff, right?
		JD Vance said it was fringe stuff.
		Well, who is this guy?
		As far as we can tell, the only motivating factor was gender ideology, which of course is an ideology aligned with every single Democrat in Congress.
		This is not fringe.
		This is on television.
		This is on what channel was it where they had I am jazz, where the mother talked about waking up her son in the middle of the night who has a surgical graft in his abdomen that she jams a device into.
		Was it TLC?
		I'm not entirely sure, so I'll be careful.
		But that is on television.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That is on television.
		So with this person is motivated to kill Charlie Kirk because his lover, his boyfriend, is a is a male who identifies as trans, and that's what investigators are saying.
		I think people need to wake up.
		As much as JD Vance is saying this is fringe, the ideology that motivated this is sitting right now with every single Democrat in Congress.
		And I'm not saying every single Democrat wants to hurt anybody or is advocating for this.
		I'm saying this ideology is universal on the left.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		There's states that will abduct your child if you don't affirm their gender BS.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		There are states that allow strangers to kidnap your children.
		And if they bring them, I believe I believe it's the Pacific Northwest.
		If a man takes your 13-year-old child from your home, anywhere in the country, and brings them to that state for a sex change, they cannot be prosecuted.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Insane.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That's why it's such a mistake for the this line that some people are taking where they're like, oh, he's clearly mentally ill or he was clearly radicalized.
		It's like just flip on any leftist streamer.
		You're gonna see there's a huge social incentive for I'm not gonna say violence, but certainly uh hate, I mean full-blown, full-blown hatred towards towards these types of people on exhibit A. Let's listen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Earlier today, Pierce Morgan uploaded a debate with several personalities, including Jack Basobic and a Kasparian, Andrew Wilson, and uh who else who was on it?
		Uh Cornell West, he stormed off in rage, refusing to have a dialogue.
		So Pierce Morgan decided to bring on Destiny, a liberal streamer who states, and I quote, if you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Trump should not have been president in the second term.
		And I'll play the video for you right now.
piers morgan ▲ ● ▼		Uh Cornell West for now, maybe we'll get him back.
		Um, Andrew Wilson referred to Destiny's insane tweets a little earlier, which were disavowed by Anna Kasperin.
		Well, Destiny joins us now.
		Um, Destiny, you've been quite active on social media since Charlie Kirk's death when Erica Kirk posted a uh Charlie's coffin, you responded she tagged him, brackets crying face emojis.
		Uh in response to Alina Haber's tweet ordering people to fly their flags, a half mast in memory of Charlie, you posted on X buying flags and polls just to fly them fully erect.
		And you then posted yesterday ending every conservative debate call out I'd do in 2026 with don't dodge bro.
		That's not what Charlie would have wanted.
		Um I mean, do you think that your response to the cold-blooded murder of Charlie Kirk has been appropriate?
destiny steven bonnell ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		I think that the only way this country moves forward into a better world is when conservatives can finally realize that they need to turn the temperature down on their side.
		This is we are 10 years into whatever this Trump madness is, and there is not a single mainstream conservative that will call for a lowering of the temperature on their side.
		I think that liberals need to wake up and finally realize that if they're not willing to do it, it will never come down.
		If you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Donald Trump shouldn't have been president for the second term.
		Every time he's in office, this happens.
		People joked about when Biden came in, it was so boring, nothing was going on.
		Seven out of ten of the largest protests in American history have happened under Donald Trump.
		All of the recent political violence that's happened in this country over the past 20 years, the majority of it, the overwhelming majority of it, everybody gets mad because they keep asking Brock about it, has been conservative.
unidentified		Who is who shot Charlie Kirk?
destiny steven bonnell ▲ ● ▼		A guy from Utah who was raised in a Christian family who's a 22 year old.
		He's a trans girlfriend, he didn't have any trans influences, he didn't have any trans bullets.
		Yeah, I'm sorry, you guys were wrong on all the people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's lying.
unidentified		Yeah, we're not.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But the most important takeaway from that, and uh I'll show you a bit of this uh debunking it, how Charlie Kirk's killing sparked unfounded theories about gripers.
		Here's the New York Times, Kirk shooting suspect how the leftist ideology, Utah governor says, and the only thing he can say is you were wrong about that.
		You were wrong.
		But the most important takeaway from what he said was if you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Trump should not have been president in the second term.
		Seven of the biggest protests were under Trump, most of the political violence.
		What he is saying is obvious to anyone who has ears, and he is saying it in a way to exploit legal loopholes.
		Because what he's not legally allowed to say, or I would argue that he crosses the line into potentially being sought after for criminal charges, is if he said, and if he were to Express that he or others would kill people who vote conservative.
		That's when he gets in trouble.
		But when he says it in this way, what is he saying?
		By you voting for Donald Trump.
		A leftist killed Charlie Kirk, and maybe you shouldn't have voted for Trump.
		If you didn't want the left to protest, the biggest protests and the mass rioting that we've saw in 2020, maybe you shouldn't have voted for Trump.
		But who was doing it all?
		The left.
		And that's the threat he's giving you.
		In fact, there's another video.
		How about I play this one for you?
unidentified		Exactly.
destiny steven bonnell ▲ ● ▼		Like I need you need conservatives to be afraid of getting killed when they go to events so that they look to their leadership to turn down the temperature.
destiny steven bonnell ▲ ● ▼		The issue is right now.
unidentified		Idiosy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Guys, we can't hear when you talk over what they're saying.
destiny steven bonnell ▲ ● ▼		Nope, nothing exactly like I need you need conservatives to be afraid of getting killed when they go to events so that they look to their leadership to turn down the temperature.
		The issue is right now, they don't feel like there's any fear.
		Like, I don't know.
		I don't know.
		It's like memes.
		It's just memes to everybody, I guess.
		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a lie.
		And that's all he does is lie.
		Because, as the late David Graeber stated, the left 10 years ago adopted the fascistic ethos, quote, there is no truth but power.
		So when Destiny goes on Piers Morgan today and says there was no trans boyfriend, it's all made up.
		And we actually have, here you go.
		FBI investigating social media accounts that appeared to indicate foreknowledge of Kirk assassination, and they are all transgender aligned accounts and in transgender forum saying we effing did it.
		And you have numerous reports, even the DOJ saying that this person was left aligned with the trans boyfriend, and even the New York Times reporting.
		Governor Spencer Cox, who has been heavily criticized by the right for actually being pro-left.
		But we'll get into more of this and the evidence breaking this down.
		The point is, this argument that they're making right now is that Destiny didn't really mean that.
		He's saying, no, no, no, you should fear the death, not actually get shot.
		That's that's a lie.
		He celebrated the death of Corey Comprator.
		He mocked it and made fun of it.
		I'll tell you this.
		When he says the right doesn't fear any of this stuff, it's a fabrication, and I can tell you how I know this.
		Without naming any of the prominent conservative personalities, I can tell you that many of them that I personally know have 24 hour security details that cost millions of dollars per year, and they have to sleep with four men surrounding their home every single night.
		And when I've gone and met with these people, I've had to had we would go out for food, and there's four guys surrounding us all the time.
		In fact, I have armed guards.
		And now, as we're planning a trip, as I mentioned, I'll be in Austin soon.
		We are contemplating how much is in our budget for armed security to be transporting me around.
		Destiny is lying.
		He is creating terror intentionally.
		His statements are meant to be clear.
		Charlie Kirk died because Trump won the presence because you voted for who you want to.
		What he's saying is this will continue.
		The left will be violent, they will kill again unless you stop and surrender and let them do whatever they want.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's just terrorism.
		He's endorsing terrorism.
		He's saying that people should be afraid of being killed because of their politics.
		That is what terrorism is.
		There's not some kind of big convoluted concept.
		When you say I believe that violence should be used, and I endorse using violence to modify people's political expression, that is terrorism.
		And it's exactly what Destiny's Destiny's saying.
		He should get a visit from the FBI.
		And it's I think that if if they decide or they find that he is, he should go to trial.
		And if he is, he should be put in jail.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, and look, look, it's very careful what Destiny is saying here, where he's saying the right needs to learn to stop turning up the temperature.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Okay, how exactly was Charlie Kirk turning up the temperature having conservative beliefs?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		One more thing to that point.
		There has never in any in any society, there has never been a situation where people are given like when terrorism is used, and the response from the people has been to go to their leaders and say, give in to the terrorists.
		That's what he's saying.
		He's saying you should we need to turn up the heat on the conservatives so they'll go to Donald Trump and say, Donald Trump, you need to do things, and and other Republicans, you need to do things that turn the temperature down.
		That has never worked in human history ever.
		The response will be what I've said, which is use the force of government to put those people that would use terror into effing jail forever.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's let's put this into context, what he's saying.
		The Republicans need to go to Trump and tell Trump to turn things down.
		Charlie Kirk never advocated for violence, never insulted people based on race.
		They have lied about him every step of the way.
		He sought debate.
		He let ever anyone debate him, and he was shot in the neck by a man.
		And you know what?
		I'll do this.
		I will give you the lightest nonpartisan approach I can to the assessment we have on the shooter and his motivation.
		Axios reports two days ago, or I'm sorry, this is yesterday.
		First first post, I think it was just almost two days ago.
		Kirk investigators, a ghast transgender roommate may lead to motive.
		Axios reporting this.
		This is not a conservative organization.
		And they said, authorities are investigating whether Tyler Robinson, suspected of killing Kirk, believed Kirk's views on gender identity were hateful to people like Robinson's transgender roommate.
		Six sources familiar with the case tell Axios.
		So this is first and foremost.
		What they are saying is what we don't know if we don't know if gender ideology was the motivating factor.
		What we do know is this individual at the bare minimum lived with a trans person.
		So forgive me if I say gropers don't live with trans people.
		That is a ridiculous fabrication.
		And here we are from Axios.
		How Charlie Kirk's killing sparked unfounded theories about gropers.
		And prominent mainstream liberals were running this lie.
		They also ran a lie where they claimed that the bullet engravings reported by Crowder and the Wall Street Journal said T R N, and that was simply the manufacturer stamp.
		It was a lie.
		Total fabrication.
		The bulletin fact said, hey, fascist catch.
		Destiny's rebuttal on the show was that wasn't the bullet he was shot with, which is a meaningless distinction.
		It was in it was in the magazine.
		And so I don't I don't understand what his point is supposed to be, other than some are saying that Destiny's life has been ruined for some time.
		His family hates him, his kid hates him, and that he is doing these things intentionally to destroy his own life.
		And that may be the case.
		Now the reason I bring that up is because the reason they're saying this is don't blame all liberals for a man who is intentionally destroying his own life through rage and addiction or whatever it is he's doing.
		Perhaps.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		On some level, I like that he says this publicly so we know what the face of evil looks like.
		And also, who bailed out the arsonists in 2020?
		Who ignored David Dorn getting shot in the head?
		You know, it's like the left was cheering on all of that destruction.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Aaron Danielson shot in the chest by Michael Reinhold walking down the street in Portland.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Children getting shot at different Chaz locations.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So and I'll and I'll just point this out real quick.
		New York Post.
		Charlie Kirk assassination suspect had furry fixation and his trans boyfriend proclaimed support for Biden on social media.
		It is fascinating to me that Destiny, he knows he's lying.
		They all know they're lying.
		As I pointed out already, unfounded theories about gripers.
		These Democrats have been lying incessantly.
		Now, something I've shown, I I was showing uh all throughout the day, and I want to pull this up uh for you guys.
unidentified		Let me see if I can find this one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I've I've played it like on every single one.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I hope everyone's reading today.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		John Dutois tweet up there.
unidentified		Yeah.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		This time that God's face, my that destiny block.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		That's the reason why there's got that cock chair and corner them hotels, Mike.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		He's a possessed Muppet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
		I'm gonna play this.
		I'm gonna play this video for you guys in this context.
		Here you go.
leigh mcgowan ▲ ● ▼		So hi.
		I haven't spoken about the Charlie Kirk murder until now because we didn't know anything.
		And since my channel was created not to report the news, but to make sense of it, I felt like the only responsible thing to do was to wait until there was more information.
		It now appears that the person who shot and killed right-wing political commentator Charlie Kirk was like the majority of shooters in America.
		A young White male from a conservative pro-gun religious background.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now let's just pause real quick and break down the manipulation technique she used.
		We call this assumptive reasoning or assumptive uh language.
		That is to say something that will trick someone into assuming the statement is connected, or to assume a so uh uh uh an an output.
		That is, he came from a conservative background.
		She is hoping that you will then assume he held those same views.
		There's a bunch of ways the media does this.
		One of my favorite things is one of my favorite techniques they use would be like this.
		I spoke with Shane Cashman.
		In a conversation, I was told that he hates vanilla ice cream.
		Now it sounds like what I'm saying is I talk to Shane and Shane says he doesn't want to eat vanilla.
		No, no, that's not what I said.
		There's a period there in a conversation.
		That was a totally different conversation.
		What do you mean?
		What are you talking about?
		I never said that.
		And that's the game they play.
		Now the reality is we know this guy, it's reported by law enforcement media, numerous journalists that have investigated this, people who have talked to the shooters' friends and family, he was left aligned.
		She says more.
leigh mcgowan ▲ ● ▼		After being told for two straight days that the left had declared war on America, that the shooter was most likely trans, or in Congresswoman Nancy Mace's words, pro-tranny, after the Wall Street Journal published an article, they had to later walk back that the bullets had a pro-trans message because it turned out to be just the markings of one of the world's biggest ammunition factories.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Absolute abject lie.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yes, mine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And there's no way she doesn't know that because they did a press conference and there were there were numerous reports on this.
		What she is basing her worldview off of is a is random anonymous Twitter accounts that were posting images of bullet casings with TRN for Turin on the bottom.
		And she ran with the lie without fact checking, either because she is developmentally disabled, which I don't think so.
		I think she is intentionally and willfully lying to obfuscate the motives of the assassin who is closer to mainstream Democrat than anyone wants to admit, even liberals.
		At first, at first they celebrated until the Yankees did a memorial, a moment of silence, until the Cowboys.
		I think most NFL teams now apparently had to be.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I don't know which ones, but it was just the four.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I think it was all of them basically, except the four of them, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In Vegas.
		Some of the casinos on their marquees in memory of Charlie Kirk.
		And when the liberals realized Charlie Kirk was a moderate beloved by most people, Chris Pratt has spoken out.
		Bill Maher has spoken out.
		Jamie Kennedy, I think I just saw him, comedian.
		Mick Jagger did?
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yep, he did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The left begin to panic when they realized they're on the wrong side of history.
		So they're trying to change the narrative.
		And they are playing dirty, evil, psychotic games to do it, but we will expose them.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Change in history, Mike.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I've seen a few times on Twitter where they'll come out and they'll say, Oh, it was a group that did it.
		And then you press them and you say, Well, you're you're changing this because you know this is completely indefensible action that took place, and they'll say, Well, no, actually, it was his rhetoric that got him.
		So it's like they can't even decide on what their narrative is.
		It's just absolutely insane.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		They fought with each other on it too.
		Like you say, they still fought in the they still fought in the position of whether it's a moral thing to do.
		You see, half of them are gone, oh, he didn't deserve to die, and half of them are like, yeah, he did because he said this, and then they're collapsing on themselves.
		There's a reason why they can't make a meaningful political movement because they can't even come together for any sort of um any sort of length of time that's meaningful at all.
		You look at it you guys, no, you're right, you're right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was gonna say the the the ironic thing is that when these leftists come out and say Charlie Kirk preached hate, so he deserved it, they're holding up a giant bullseye over their own faces.
		And that's why we tell them not to do this.
		The logic that these people are espousing is if Charlie did deserve it, they're basically saying they do too.
		And you know what's funny is the whole time, several years, Destiny says no one in the mainstream conservative movement will call for the temperature to be put down to go down literally every single mainstream conservative every day.
		Literally every day.
		Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk himself, Jack, me, we're always saying, guys, we don't want violence, even in the wake of Charlie Kirk's killing, on the day of, with tears in my eyes, as well as many others, we said we cooler heads must prevail, and we do not want violence.
		But no matter how many times we beg and say stop, the left doesn't.
		And you know what they do?
		They create fake NGOs.
		Well, they're Real NGOs, mind you.
		And they do this really clever thing that the right isn't smart enough to do.
		So how about we do this right now?
		I'm gonna create an organization and we're gonna call it the um let's call it the Mittelloop institution.
		And we're gonna call it the premier surveying and study group for the United States.
		Then we're going to put out a report where we say 97% of all violence is caused by the far left.
		Then we're going to disseminate that to newspapers who will publish it as fact and say news study reveals far left responsible for 97% of violence.
		And then when you trace it back to its source, you find out it is a leftist aligned nonprofit with a partisan report that was basically fabricated and then laundered through the press to masquerade as fact.
		And then they go on CNN, these Democrats like Seth Moulton and say, The right is responsible for 76% of violence.
		And what are they really saying?
		They're saying we've excluded gang violence from mass shootings.
		We've then lumped in, as the ADL does, anti-government protests, which includes Antifa.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		White supremacy, which is not overtly political in any mainstream partisan way.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And that includes white supremacist gangs in prison.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And my favorite.
unidentified		Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My favorite other.
		Let's call it.
		The ADL considers any nondescript political violence to be right wing.
		Let me prove it for you.
		Let me prove it.
		I ain't even playing around playing around.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's how DAPA guys.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's white supremacist gangs in prison, which they are violent in prison because there's a lot of violence, but it doesn't include any black people in prison that commit any violence.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here you go.
		Take a look at how the anti-defamation league's heat map categorizes extremism.
		Right wing white supremacist.
		Now, if you went to uh JD Vance, the vice president or Donald Trump and asked them, uh, do they hate black people based on race or should there be race?
		They're gonna say, absolutely not.
		There should be no laws based on, you know, preferences based on race.
		If you went to any mainstream conservative and said, should there be race-based policy, or more importantly, do you think white people are inherently better than other races?
		One hundred percent would say no.
		I said mainstream.
		There are certainly people on the fringe who align with white supremacy, but they call it right wing.
		Next, you have right wing anti-government.
		That's right.
		When far leftists go out and engage in violence, that's right wing because they oppose the government.
		What?
		Okay.
		Here's my favorite.
		Other.
		Other.
		The category includes other right wing extremist movements as well as the extreme wings of the broader right wing movements, if they have association with violence, including anti-abortion, anti-Muslim, anti-immigration, anti-public lands.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what is left wing?
		The category includes groups and movements traditionally considered part of the left, as well as anarchists.
		It also includes environmental and animal rights extremists for simplicity say simplicity's sakes.
		It includes black nationalist extremists, even though not all black nationalist extremist groups are necessarily fall under the banner of the far left.
		Why are there three categories of right wing?
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Extreme categories.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Why is an Islamist under left wing?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The left overtly defends Islam every single day.
		Why is white supremacist right wing?
		How about they put left wing parentheses Islamist?
		Because what they have done is they've intentionally created a list that will lump tons of different categories under the quote unquote right.
		Because to the left, right wing means bad guy.
		This is what they do.
		So how about this?
		I'll start an NGO, and we'll call it the middle loop institution, and we'll get a picture of Shane wearing his mighty fine glasses.
		And you're a doctor.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's right.
		20 bucks.
		Dr. Line too.
		Yeah, that's right.
		I can do weddings.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm a doctor.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dr. Cash.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, but you were actually a professor.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I was, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you have a doctorate?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		No.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, you're doctor can't do that.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That much shame.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, we'll pretend.
destiny steven bonnell ▲ ● ▼		We'll pretend.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Um, you know what?
		No, we'll get Dr. Drew.
		We'll get whoever.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then we will do the stats the way they do, disseminate them to the press, and the press will run with it.
		Now, of course, the the truth is the media is left aligned.
		So they knew they are they know they're lying when they disseminate this stuff, but that's how they launder fake news and manipulate people into believing this stuff.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Post the bacalong back to the NGO.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, it goes back to a study, a rapport that was published by the NGO.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No one checks.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		There's one doctor who You signed off on it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		My favorite was the uh alternative influencer network report seven years ago, where they claimed that Chris Ray Gun, a video game comedy YouTuber, had collaborated with Richard Spencer, the frontman of the alt-right.
		When in fact the two men not only had nothing in common but never once met.
		They claimed in their report that I had collaborated with Stephen Molyneux, who I had never met before.
		They just make it up.
		The funny thing was they put me in the middle of it.
		There's this big like uh what are those things called with the uh the conspiracy maps, like the red lines.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Oh, just a just a fucking crazy guy's fucking wool.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They made that and they put me in the middle.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the young Turks used it unironically.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		As a fair when like you say that just as Tim.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I don't know.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		He's like, what the fuck?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's I mean, I guess at that point, it's when I first saw it, I made a bunch of phone calls like, whoa, what's go?
		What is this?
		And mind you, this is in 2018.
		I believe it was 2018.
		And this was a time where I said I I was staunchly liberal and would never vote for Donald Trump and couldn't stand the guy, and they still lied about me and smeared me and did all this stuff.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely insane.
		So at the time I made a bunch of phone calls, furious.
		And uh called a lawyer and said, How can they include me in this and claim that I interact with people I did not?
		And they said, You can't do anything about it.
		Can't zoom.
		They're allowed to do it.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, and I mean, now it's gonna get people killed, as as we've seen, all these lies and smears and et cetera, it's gonna get people killed.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That's what everyone has.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's their goal.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's their goal.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, they sent up the pincer movement a while ago where they they would say, if you went to like your average leftist and be like, okay, is it appropriate to punch a Nazi?
		And they'd be like, Yeah, of course.
		And then they would say, It's someone like Charlie Kirk a fascist, and they'd be like, Yeah, of course.
		And it's like, okay, we've already you've already cleared political violence in your worldview.
		They did it years.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		We've seen the the way that they've they've cultivated this uh the labeling culture that they've they've they've cultivated where they they they attach these extreme words onto ordinary people like Charlie who are doing extraordinary things, but they they love the word Nazi, fascist, sexist, misogynists.
		And most people, let's be honest, most people don't do their own research.
		Most people just want to hear what they want to hear, they want to say what they want to see.
		So people hear this I'll run with it.
		They don't like the guy, because from what they've heard or what they've mates heard, they're gonna run with it.
		And now we're saying right now, the end game of it, finally, they've got what they've wanted.
		They've now hit the green button on violence.
		Now it's condoned, mate.
		And a lot of them are a lot of them are complicit in it.
		You say a lot of them are pushing back saying, I don't know, I don't agree with it.
		I think it should be, but they're bigger than with themselves.
		I can't believe a whole side of the political aisle can't come to terms on whether murder is wrong.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		You know, isn't that you know if you messed up, mate?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They they've effectively made their side believe in the caricature that the talking heads and the bureaucrats created.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		So like Trump being literally Hitler, you know, they've literally believed it.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Remember, it's like he is literally Hitler, but now it's like there are maniacs, these people, mate, you know, like out here, they truly believe this.
		And they think they're heroes, mate.
		They think they're Iron Man, Superman, superheroes rolling in, Cachal, thinking they're saving the universe from sudden doom.
		Where it's just a normal bloke, you know, saying he loves people of all races, he doesn't see race, get shot.
unidentified		Yeah.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		How disgusting is that.
		Yeah, man, there was in America.
		I'll move dear because you get away from countries like that, you know?
		What a shame.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Evil's everywhere, dude.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to jump to the story from the free beacon.
		FBI investigating social media accounts that appeared to indicate foreknowledge of Kirk assassination.
		In fact, there is a theory that there is a transgender cell.
		I think it may be an easier way to put it.
		Some people have referred to as a terror cell.
		Is there is an online click with various communication channels that talk to each other, knew about this, in some ways aided or abetted the shooter, but at the bare minimum, there was a network of individuals, likely transgender, that were in communication with the shooter and were aware of the plans.
		Take a look at this.
		The Federal Bureau of Investigation is investigating social media posts by at least seven different accounts that appeared to indicate foreknowledge of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, according to three people familiar with the investigation.
		The post, one of which referenced the date of Kirk's assassination, September 10th, more than a month before it took place, were all deleted in the days following the killing.
		Several of the accounts appear to belong to trans individuals, and at least one of them followed suspect Tyler Robinson's roommate with whom Robinson was allegedly in a relationship.
		Now, here's an interesting thing.
		There is a conspiracy theory that the roommate is the shooter and that Robinson is the Patsy.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Dude, did you see that footage?
		I saw this footage today of like the two the two individuals early on, it's beginning when he's like doing this product throw out, I think it was what he's doing.
		And you can see in the back on the frames, you'll see two uh two figures above the roof from which he was shot was like the the least the Lisa Center, whatever it's called.
		Um I I haven't even got a fake, it's fake they were on the roof.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's someone's hands.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		If you look at it, yeah.
		I saw people sharing.
		There's so many, they've like littered the internet with so many easily things to default.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's another one.
		There's an image of the suspect, and people are putting it next to the image of the suspect in jail, and they don't look the same.
		It's because the image of the suspect in the stairwell is an AI generated image.
		It's not real.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Up scale.
		Well, for the past year, I'm I've had a guest on my show.
		We've done about three episodes with uh BX talking about these cults that are these death cults that are online.
		A lot of them are have have a lot of trans ideology in them, and they reference each other and they're obsessed with mass shooters.
		They idolize it.
		They feticize it.
		It's it's a seven uh 09A 764 network.
		It's a big deal.
		Some of them have been in the military.
		It's it's a big network.
		Uh so this is like the Catholic shooter, the Catholic church shooter.
		All the writings on his guns uh reference a lot of those shooters and other things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is an interesting one.
		In this TikTok, it reads Charles James Kirk, Mr. College Drop out does not know what's coming tomorrow.
		Be ready.
		This isn't a threat, it's a promise.
		One post said, Charlie Kirk is coming to my college.
		I really hope someone finally evaporates him.
		Let's just say something big will happen tomorrow.
		Another post says, You guys, I have something big coming soon.
		Just be sure to check, check the news.
		You'll know it when you see it.
		Well, that's that.
		452 at 99.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I guarantee there's a lot of people involved with this.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Guaranteed.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		They're grabbing them super seven, six two cold is what you're referencing.
		Where they recruit, they recruit on like Roblox.
		I mean, that's a game for like children.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They go after your kids and they will try to make your kids harm themselves, do horrible things to kind of uh induct them into the cult.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And then it turns into real life violence.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		And the FBI just grooming really young on on even on Reddit and and all that, and they they go on there and they they go on these Discord servers and they I've seen there were these um there were these Discord servers where they were uh this is a big thing, like um, this was gone for a long time.
		There were like these grooming groups of people who are like trying to convince young kids that they were trans, and they were very successful.
		You know, they they got a whole cohort of people who actually weren't like that, and they somehow convinced them this is a thing.
		There's a plot line for this stuff, and I can't believe people uh saying, oh, the simplest answer must be the simplest, you know.
		I look at there's so much more to it, man.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		When when you take the lonely and isolate them and they're over medicated, and you start feeding them all this negative like demonic stuff, it's easy to activate them.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's easy for it's easy for people like us to go, oh, they're just crazies.
		Because we we go outside, we have beers of the lads, we go out, we have fun or whatever, we talk to people, we have social skills, whatever.
		There's kids out there who never leave the house, they got no one, you know.
		And they get they get pre like preyed upon by these people in law, like the roadblocks and disease.
		Like, I can't I can't imagine how to get to that point where you can get manipulated like that, but there seems to be a large number of people right now.
		I I'm guessing it's because of social media, you feel like an ant and anthill.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's MK Ultra.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you live in the rest for decades.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, and also like the people we when we think who's running these types of cults or you know, sex tortion groups or whatever, like we think it's like some creepy old guy, but every time they bust these people, they're also fairly young, like they're names.
		They like other atomized individuals that are just feeding each other like this, like it's a death cult.
		That's the quite literally the only thing that's a mold growing, mate.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		It fades on itself, you know.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		It's strange.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		And it's getting worse and worse and worse because every social indicator of of young people's matriculation is going the wrong way.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		So it's just gonna get worse and worse and worse.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		We see the identif oh, like uh like there's a lot, I can't remember the exact figure.
		There's a large percentage of young women, especially who identify as OJ Bay T. And that's like whatever, but it's just like generally that was delegated to a very small minority of people for all of history and all of ancient history, pre-history.
		And you look at that, there's always been you know, gay dudes going around, but Mike, you look at it now, these are large percentages.
		You know, I can't call I'm not gonna say a number because I'm not a leftist, so I'm not gonna say a number just to say a number and go, this is the number, this is the truth.
		I'm gonna white till I actually get a fact, but might crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I want to play this clip from the five of Jesse Waters, which is kind of horrifying.
jesse watters ▲ ● ▼		These aren't fringe people.
		These are people that are teaching your children celebrating Charlie Kirk being assassinated.
		These are neurologists.
		These are people who work at Fortune 500 companies.
		And they're sounding like the devil himself.
		And so these people, we don't have to tolerate.
		We can forgive, but they have to get on their knees and they have to beg for forgiveness.
		They have to repent.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The important thing right here is we're talking about the radicalization.
		Do you want to go to a nurse or a hospital where the nurse was cheering for the death of Charlie Kirk?
		You show up and you've got like an American flag tattoo, or maybe you've got we the people on your arm, or uh, you know, uh join or die tattooed.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Go to a place where they potentially hate you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you go to a place where there's a woman working in there and she said these people should die.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm not gonna let that person give me any kind of shot or IV or anything.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's like that's why it's it's so strange that this is a wedge issue because it's like generally in any, like you were saying earlier, in any workplace, if someone's really excited that someone died, they would get fired for that.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Like that has been the standard.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		No, Brian for all of all of employment history.
		It's not like this isn't a new cancel culture for the right thing.
		This is just common sense, mate.
		They call it accountability cult uh accountability culture now, consequence culture.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what they call it.
		That's what the left has always called it.
		But I think the more worrying thing is to stop and consider teachers, doctors, lawyers, executives, uh secret service agents, people in the military cheering for a political assassination against an individual who was a moderate.
		That is the terrifying reality that we're dealing with.
		The radicalization.
		Look, every conservative knows I'm not a conservative, every liberal will call me far right.
		If a moderate, middle of the road centrist liberal leaning in certain areas, conservative in some areas, if a moderate is far right, y'all, you got targets on your back.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Hey, you're a problem, mate.
		Yeah, no tolerance, yeah.
		What a tolerant group of people, mate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And now there's this lie where if you go on networks like Threads or Blue Sky, everyone's ignoring threads, by the way, but threads is really bad.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I went on thread as soon as the news dropped, I was like, please.
		I actually went on threads just as an experiment because I was I was destroyed.
		I was actually out with a coffee, and I actually heard people, I was with my girl, and I was actually you heard people in on laptops, you know, in the in the afternoons, all these you know, paper pushes on their laptops or whatever.
		They're all I'm writer, I'm a journalist, I'm an AR, I'm in Nashville.
		So you get all these music industry paper, mate.
		In the corner, these two girls, blue hair looking like freaks, mate.
		No offense, whatever.
		Cool if you like blue hair, but honestly, I think it's disgusting.
		Um in the corner, you hear them go, oh my god, Charlie Kirk.
		You could hear it.
		And they're like, oh my god, oh my god, they're like jumping around.
		And that's the first interaction that I I saw about it.
		Made me sick.
		My girl was crying, my manager and his wife are crying.
		First thing I did, I'm like, let me check threads to as an experiment to see how is if this is a common thing that I'm witnessing, oh, these are just two fucked up people at the coffee shop.
		Mate.
		I've never been on blue sky, I don't know.
		It was disgusting.
		Actually, disgusting.
		Rest in piss or whatever they say, mate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Threads is is insane.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't think people realize that there's there's no middle ground anymore.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I I just pulled my threads up right now, and the first thing I see is someone saying uh Charlie Kirk was a weirdo.
		He advocated for the inherent inferiority of certain social groups.
		What at a time where hate crimes and discriminatory legislation were on the rise?
		Uh it's just the whole the whole thing.
		And then there are some conservatives trying to push back, but it's just a flood of liberals celebrating it.
		The funny thing is when they said there's a viral post on Threads that said, You mean there's a group uh uh that that is further far right than Charlie Kirk with a bunch of exclamation points?
		Because their lie they were pushing was that Nick Fuentes got Charlie Kirk killed, which is absolutely insane, by the way.
		Fake.
		And Axios is even debunked.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		It's ridiculous.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But it was because they needed an excuse to say we're the good guys.
		But Greg Guttfeld exploded on Jessica Tarlov on the five today.
		And he was like, the reason you need to lie is because you're starting to realize you're not the good guys, and they're not, they're the villains.
		They cheer for the villains in movies, they made the orcs, they tried to make the orcs into good guys.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		They ruined the orcs, man.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Ruined the orcs.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They did.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Straight up.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		They ruined my orcs, you know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You said you see the show?
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they ruined orcs.
		I can't believe you could ruin orcs.
		They're like one of the most steady character archetypes of all time.
		They're disgusting base.
		They're like, let's give them thoughts and feelings of shit.
		You know, it's like, oh dude.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're poor families that are scared of humans.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		poor orc families that kill people.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Real.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's and it's funny because it's the meme where it's the um uh the battle of Helm's Deep.
		Uh, who who can if you don't know what that is, too bad, you're not enough.
		Anyway, it's a big battle in Lord of the Rings.
		And the battle, and you see, I think it's like, I don't know, it should it shows Gandalf talking to Aragorn or whatever, and he's like, well, let them in.
		Don't be racist.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		What?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		When it's like the the orcs are here at the gates.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like, well, let them in, don't be racist.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Let them in.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe in bullets, so let him in.
unidentified		Right.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I also want to say like I believe these cults exist, but I also don't want to discount this idea of accelerationism and things that our government has done over the years, whether it's Operation Gladio, Condor, uh, the years of lead that they might have participated in Italy.
		And I think there's these forces beyond just the foot soldiers on the ground that want to hasten the end times and and collapse society.
		And that's what I see like a lot of this.
		Whether or not they're actually behind this, what I think they take advantage of these tragedies and they want to bring us to the end.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, uh, the only thing separating these atomized, you know, shooters and the people that are celebrating is that the people celebrating just have something to lose.
		Because fundamentally they have the same ideology, this ideology of death.
		The only thing separating them from these executives or teachers or whatever, is those are people that have something to lose.
		But we're dealing with the same ideology across the board here from the atomized cultist shooter and, you know, your doctor celebrating.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		You can get away with much more when you're homeless and you're unemployed, you know, living in the basement.
		You can say whatever you like, but the teacher, you know...
		I can't believe people, I just honestly can't believe people are so confident right now.
		Like we live in a confidence, like a confidence hell hole.
		I think, you know, I I grew up in Australia where it's like if you're too confident, you get smacked on the back of the head, it's like calm down, mate, you know, all that.
		But nowadays you see people on social media, they they are so confident in their anonymous and anonymity, so I'm a bit dyslexic, but mate, they're so confident in the fact that they don't think they'll be seen that they're going, they're cheering for death.
		They're a nurse, or I saw this one, this woman saying she was a childcare worker.
		She said, you know what?
		Fuck the kids.
		Oh, he's a father.
		Well, fuck the kids, fuck the wife.
		It's like, bitch, you work as a child care worker with your name on your Facebook and you got your place of work right there.
		They instantly sacked her, obviously.
		But I can't believe people have the audacity, mate.
		I would never, you know.
		If I was working in McDonald's, I'd be too afraid to get lose my job, you know.
		I'm like, please, no, I'm a good boy, you know.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Their ideology means more to them.
unidentified		Chicken burger bat.
		I like that reference, right?
		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That's their whole identity, though.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's a religion.
unidentified		Yeah, right.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's strange.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		So it's more than their jobs when anything.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's like they are virtuous signaling to their death cult that we accept this.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They think it's a little taste of uh martyrdom if they get fired.
unidentified		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's they legitimate, they legitimately like they're this is not a LARP, this is not a bit, they legitimately think they're fighting fascism.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Well, I like I like that point you said.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Like role-playing martyrdom.
unidentified		Yeah.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		You look at that, even in the protests, you know, they're wearing the little scarves on their head, the kefirs or whatever, trying to trying to look like the warrior kind of it's almost like like uh what's that movie, the Scottish dude?
		Fight for our freedom.
		I'm just Braveheart, mate.
		Like that's what it feels like.
		It feels like a fake attempt to kind of feel like that.
		And you look at them, they're a bunch of like five foot tall, mentally ill, scrawny losers.
		And they're like, We are warriors, and they're like getting taken away from the cops.
		They're like, take my video.
		Uh, you know, it's like ever since I think it's ever since the George Floyd, it's been the it there's been some kind of celebr like s like this this feeling of uh uh of just prestige that comes with getting arrested or being a martyr or being a moron.
		And I just look at it, I'm just I just don't know.
		I feel like the whole world's in like a state of shock right now that I feel I haven't snapped out of yet.
		I haven't snapped out of the shock, just going, how can these people be doing this?
		I don't know about you guys, but I haven't snapped out of it.
		Like most people just like still struggling to find words.
		Yeah, and you know, I don't even know, mate.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's just hard to go to sleep.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, your brain's just going and going.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The next crazy thing, too.
		Uh we'll just mention it briefly.
		I don't need to pull anything up for this is the people who are posting within a day, Israel did it.
		Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's comedy, though.
unidentified		And they're lying with with the flying thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I I will say this.
		Candace Owens, her live Stream from two hours ago is titled They Are Lying About Charlie Kirk.
		And it's a picture of Netanyahu.
		She has several viral posts where she said in the lead up to his assassination, or at some point, he had rejected money from Netanyahu, and that he was frightful, fearful of the Israel lobby and feared that they would kill him if he didn't do it, they said, or something to that effect.
		And all I can say is, uh knowing uh I'm not gonna pretend like you know, I hung out with Charlie every single day or anything like that.
		I've heard nothing of the sort.
		Uh I will just say that I reached out to several people and denied every single step of it.
		Like that's just it's just plum psychotic.
		It's just fake.
		It's completely fake.
		Now, I don't know.
		I mean, I don't know why they would lie to me about that.
		I also don't know why Candace would make a video with a picture of Bibi Netanyahu titled They Are Lying to Us About Charlie Kirk, and then say that Charlie was scared of Israel, or Ian Carroll, who posted shortly after.
		He had a viral tweet where he said within 24 hours everyone figured out who did it, it was Israel.
		Of course, none of it makes any sense.
		They made these videos where they show Charlie Kirk talking to Ben Shapiro about genocide in Gaza.
		And it was a typical podcast layup where Charlie said to Ben, what would you say to someone who called what's going on in Gaza a genocide?
		And then Ben answers.
		They then zoom in on Ben's face and play music to make it seem like Charlie Kirk had become critical of Israel.
		He had not.
		Charlie, in fact, was making videos where he brought young Gen Zen Gen Z men in to debate them on why Jews and Israel were good and why he supports Israel.
		So this narrative that's emerged is the weirdest thing ever.
		Maybe it's for clicks.
		Maybe it's because people have Israel derangement syndrome.
		I don't know.
		All I can say is this.
		Maybe I'm wrong.
		I'm just some guy.
		When I saw Candace Owens and Ian Carroll posting about it, I reached out to several people because we are directly connected to all of them.
		We've been on TPSA stage three times in the past three years, which requires heavy coordination to bring a show, transport crew, and all of that stuff.
		Not only that, we are friends with tons of people who work with TPUSA directly coming on this show almost every other day or routinely, and it's just been patently denied by everyone as a fake fabricated story made up.
		And so I'm like, okay.
		Well, I don't know.
		I don't know Candace Owens that well either.
		I don't know why she would make it up.
		It's weird.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think it's I I think it's just not true.
		I trust my friends, and I've I have no reason to believe that the people I know who are saying that never happened.
		This is fake, would lie to me.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think there's something beyond just a cult, and I also think the Israel narrative might have something to do with my theory on accelerationism, where they drop a narrative in to just sow more discord and make people fight and blame and point the fingers, people blaming just one community, this other community.
		And I think a lot of the goal with accelerationism is that's the chaos.
		They know how things will be interpreted online, they know who's gonna say what, so they just point the fingers and things fall apart.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like Sneeko saying that's what that's what they wanted.
		They wanted the left and right at each other's necks.
		That's what they wanted.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
		I mean, we know ambiguous they to me, they right now would be there's larger factions within the government, deep state types that did things like Operation Gladio or Condor years of lead who go undercover in these chat rooms to radicalize people.
		You know, that's been we've seen that over the years.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, I just think at this point, like if you had your Israel narrative locked and loaded, you're just like three, four days after this shooting, you're just not on the team because it's like we have an opportunity here to finally crush this leftist death cult, and then now you're trying to like do a bait.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They're protecting the left.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't care about Israel, I don't want to fund Israel, I don't care what Israel does.
		Let's cut off all funding and several size of them 100%.
		How does that sound for you guys?
		Let me stand alongside everybody who hates Israel and say we're gonna cut off ties to Israel, they're on their own, they get no more money from us, don't know, don't care.
		Now, why are they defending the left?
		Why are they running cover from somebody who all indications is trans identifier trans trans ideologue?
		All of a sudden they're saying, Hey, don't look over there, look over here at this other country halfway around the world.
		it could be because anything that could be used to weaponize uh anger against Israel is part of their strategy, I guess.
		I don't know.
		Uh I find it weird that at the same time as I can say, hey, stop distracting from this story about a left-aligned individual who assassinated a prominent conservative, they then they they then say I'm a Zionist.
		They say Tim Poole supports the Jews or Zionism or whatever, when I can literally say in the same breath, cut off all funding, several ties, and and they can do whatever they want, we're out.
		No, nope, that's not good enough.
		That that's why I think it's fake.
		Because if I come out and say I advocate for the US to cut all funding 100% from Israel, don't want to be involved, and they still call me a Zionist and they still call me pro-Israel, you know they're not serious and they're lying.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, the the people that are like that that are bringing up Israel all the time, to say you don't support them isn't enough.
		They actually want the US to just help the Palestinians destroy Israel.
		Like really they really do want to see Israel destroyed so much that they're like the US should start bombing, you know, the Israelis and because of all the terrible things.
		Because the point is they hate Jews in Israel.
		So when you say, oh, well, you know, let's just forget it.
		I don't want to give them money or whatever, that's not good enough because you have to hate the way that they hate because that's what it's basically.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I don't think they all hate Jews, though.
		I think you can't oversimplify it too.
		They hate it.
		I don't think hating Israel, you can hate the government and still like Jews.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		They still but they they want the they they want to say in military action against Israel.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That I disagree with.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I just want to walk away.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There is an issue in that there are certain people who are critical of Israel, as anyone is allowed to be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There are certain people who just hate Jews, and the people who hate Jews will always take an opportunity to overlap with those who hate Israel, and so intentionally obfuscating the the the argument.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So that way it becomes challenging when you've got somebody whose real motive is hating Jews just masquerading as an anti-war or anti-interventionist personality.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's just the flip side of the same people and Kirk went down and people were upset about it, people that were apolitical, and then they would literally and you would if you don't believe it's go to a comment section of like a normie Instagram account that you know was announcing the death, and people would be like, but all these children dying in Palestine, like what about that?
		And it's like, okay, yeah, that's that's sad, but Charlie Kirk right now.
		But it's the flip side is the people that are instantly like, oh, Israel did this, yeah, it's Israel.
		Um let me just change the conversation from left versus right, and turn it into a geopolitical argument.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Jingly case, my jingly case.
		Yeah, precisely keep your head off the actual task at hand.
		Let's let's beaker about that's all it is.
unidentified		Yeah, you know.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		They're trying to they're just trying to like change the narrative.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Hey, hey, look, you know, that's what it is.
		Let's destroy what it is.
		And um, I think it's weird.
		You say you see so much um you see so much of this, Brian.
		It's just I'm I'm honestly sick of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's pro-democrat.
		Right?
		The the the leftists in this country hate Israel.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And they obfuscated the shooter's motivation or ideology.
		Then other people came out immediately blaming Israel, once again, aligning with the left on hatred of Israel, and again, obfuscating the identity or the motivation of the shooter.
		I just find it to be kind of over the top, completely obvious.
		That like I gotta be honest, you know, when like I think it was like Jackson Hinkle or whatever had a tweet where he said that GTA was was Israel or Zionist or something.
		People are Timmy's joking, and I'm like, okay, I got maybe, but when people can't figure that out because he does like stuff like that all the time, it it almost feels like it's so overt and over the top, it actually makes you question whether they're serious when they say it.
		Because you're like, is this a joke?
		In what reality did Israel kill Charlie Kirk?
		I don't understand how that that's that's that's the craziest thing.
		I mean, if you came out and said that Russia did it, I'd believe you, I'd be more likely to believe you.
		If you were like, oh yeah, you know, because he was uh in Trump's ear on war plans or something.
		I don't know.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I just see I just say there's a there's a more believable, more simplistic way of looking at it.
		It's just there's just there's a more obvious option here.
		There's a radical group of people in this country that just want someone dead.
		And that's that's what it is.
		That's what's we've had a deterioration of discourse, a divide that's grown to a valley.
		Why do you have to jump into this is a foreign nation's fault or this is this?
		It's obvious, my it's this it's a radical group of people that want people dead, and it's the deep deterioration of discourse and just polite society, and we're saying it in real time.
		We felt it all these years of you guys long ago living in America.
		I've only been here three years.
		But you can feel it.
		So it's to me, I just think it's just an obvious answer.
		It's just some crazy dude, a part of a crazy agenda that's taking over.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And I I I get it.
		I'm I'm a little reluctant to judge whatever right now and take any answer at its face value, knowing how like even RFK Jr. doesn't believe the assassin that we have killed his father.
		You know, you look at Lee Harvey Oswald and this UIO is tracking him all over the place.
		So it's like the answers if when they come so easy, I'm a little reluctant to believe like then that's it.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I can't just healthy skepticism's always great too.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		You kind of always have to leave because then you'll just the jingly keys work on your own.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They count on you accepting the narrative that makes the most sense.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		And that's yeah, and we've seen that track record working in American history and just general history with war.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		JFK died in the 60s.
unidentified		And we're still a lot of people that a lot of people are like, yeah, but that was well the the news said it was, you know.
unidentified		Right.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		You know, and um, but yeah, I I I certainly I certainly think a lot of people saying, Well, look at this bad thing, therefore you didn't speak on you said earlier what you didn't touch on Gaza, yeah, you didn't touch on Gaza, now you're bringing up Charlie Kirk.
		I'm retarded, and this is my best argument.
		And I'll look at it, and I'm just like, Mike, two things can be bad at once.
		We've had one of the most significant political figures in American history get shot in the neck on on in front of millions of people in H D 4K.
		First time that that's really happened in that graphical kind of way, like it was just it was terrifying.
		And you say that and you're like, why can't we force on like focus on that?
		Why can't we put our attention on that?
		Like, obviously, there's bad things happening all over the world.
		You look at you know, look in Africa right now with all the slaves and all the all the people getting killed, Christians and all these things.
		People aren't saying that.
		It's it's just diversion, mate.
		I'll look at it.
		I'm like, this is a very pivotal time in American history, and people say, Oh, you gotta focus on every man.
		I want to focus on Charlie Kirk because he died.
		And that's the way I look at it.
		And people people be deflecting all the time, but I think that's what what comes down to, might.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We got two comments on a read.
		One says, Peter McKay says, How how about Tim?
		You watch Candace's video like I did, and then you can see that she kind of showed some proof.
		Sure.
		Uh Dustin Jones says, Candace didn't say Israel did it.
		She was saying BB was lying by omission about a letter Charlie wrote, nothing to do with his death.
		Well, certainly, if that's the case, then I apologize if it came off that way.
		My point was when you make a video with a picture of BB because they're lying about Charlie Kirk three or four days after his assassination, and there is a spattering of posts online, particularly with other people like Ian Carroll saying Israel did it.
		That's kind of the insinuation by the thumbnail.
		But fair point.
		I didn't watch her her streamer.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Uh I saw some of the ex posts.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, which of course it sounds like the implication is they killed him.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like Fuentes was going live before the show saying that he had the smoking gun or he's addressing the smoking gun, which is like we don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's saying it's Israel.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		That's I mean, you know, yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well, I just I I mean it's like okay, it's one thing I'm not specifically addressing cannons or anything.
		I'm just saying, why are we in a rush to left the left let the left off the hook here?
		That's just so strange to me.
		Yeah, because it's like we have a huge opportunity where the admin can crack down, and it's like we're just gonna completely let him off the hook because of like weird smoking guns that are apparently out there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump to the story from the post-millennial.
		Two men arrested after allegedly planting explosive device under Fox affiliate news vehicle in Magna, Utah.
		Okay, I mean that's the news.
		Two men have been arrested for allegedly leaving an incendiary device under a Fox 13 news vehicle.
		The men, Adib Nasir 58 and Adil Justice, Ahmed Nasir 31, were booked in a jail and face multiple charges, including threat of terrorism.
		Excuse me.
		But that's saying explosive devices.
		The device underneath the Fox 13 news vehicle was originally located on Friday and determined to be real, according to officials.
		The device had been lit but failed to function.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Very American name, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Old school, really.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		New time names.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was watching the news.
		And if you're uh wondering what civil war would look like, it's things like this.
		Most people don't know the story even happened.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what's scary about it.
		The news today has been dominated so much by, of course, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, as well as I think Israel's launching a ground invasion uh of Gaza City or something.
		This news is just breaking.
		There's a lot of stuff going on.
		There's of course uh Russia and Poland uh drones, and then two men arrested for putting an explosive device in a news vehicle.
		You also had the the threats in an apple S, which Annapolis, which resulted in an accidental shooting.
		You had the threats and swatting calls to all these different universities.
		And I think what people don't realize about what civil war looks like is I'm not saying we're in a civil war, but it looks kind of like this.
		You'll turn on the news, and you'll be watching Fox, or maybe you're watching MSNBC.
		But it'll be Brett Bear.
		And he'll say in other news, I-95 in Texas was hit by an IED cutting off the flow of traffic from the from the South into the eastern regions.
		So everybody, unfortunately, you won't have your strawberries in time for Christmas, but at least we will still have our local fruits and vegetables.
		But in other news, and then it'll move on.
		In the event that there is some kind of civil war or whatever, conflict crisis in this country.
		It'll be you turning on the news, and they'll say power is out in Omaha as a substation was struck by gunfire.
		It'll be you looking out your window, and in the middle of the night you hear rustling and then a bang.
		You creep over to your window and take a peek out, and there's three guys in armor with guns, slow walking down the street, and you don't know what they're doing or why, and that's it, and they're gone.
		It'll be you going to a marketplace and hearing gunshots go off, and then you'll hit the hit the ground, and then it'll be it, and you won't know why.
		But you'll hear a lot on the news about gas attacks or bombs being detonated, and it'll mostly be in a faraway place.
		Very few people will actually live in hot zones.
		And this is every civil war in history.
unidentified		Right.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean the idea that this is the beginning of a civil war is something that like we've kind of been dealing with for the past, or at least touching on.
		And there's a lot of people that are really critical about, you know, oh, Tim says civil war, blah, blah, blah.
		But you can't deny that there's been an increase in in rhetoric and an increase in violence over the past five years that's basically I mean, as far as I can remember, that's it's not like any other time period in my life, and I'm not a spring chicken anymore, you know.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Tim's description sounds like right now to me.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that is happening all the time when I turn on the news.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I I turned on the news the other day, and every story was about some kind of violence happening, and I was just like, holy crap.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		A year ago in the same town that Robinson's from, a trans kid shot his parents.
unidentified		Whoa.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Both of them.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Like right down the road.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Must be something in the water.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Must be.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Feels like to me, we've been in ideological war for God knows how long at this point.
		It feels feels like a long time.
		And it's becoming increasingly physical to the point where people can't ignore it.
		And the way I look at it, it's like it's it's obvious, mate.
		Well, we've been in war.
		We've been in been in war of politics, we've been war of ideology.
		It's been brutal.
		People haven't been able to talk to their family members, cutting each other off.
		This is warfare.
		It's it's mental warfare.
		So the fact that people uh some people I I know some people they're shocked that things are getting physical and might and I'm like, my, I'm can't believe it hasn't got physical, didn't get physical earlier.
		And I'm just I'm shocked.
		And and it's and that's it's just I just look at it and I'm like, that's just it's just another product of this lineage that we've been on.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It's human nature.
		Yeah, we'll listen.
		We're going through it again right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And we're still trying to get answers from that.
		Like Malcolm X was shot dead in front of everybody, including his kids and his pregnant wife.
		And they have three people in jail.
		Well, they had three people in jail, and they didn't get the right three people, right?
		And then, like, right now, his family is just now, as of 2021, suing the CIA and the NYPD.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		People never seem to get the rot paypal in these things.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		They don't.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		So the problem with like today, though, is it's not tit for tat, like it's almost entirely coming from the left.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		So it's like you would need to see a ramping up of like right-wing political violence, which is just not happening because political violence is inherently left-wing good.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		You think that, but they think that that's not true because they all point to J6 and they they think, but we know that's probably left-wing violence.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		AC Gen 6 is like Pearl Harbor.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I'm just saying, like, I don't think this is a civil war.
		I think this is a attack from the left onto the right.
		I mean, uh down the road, maybe it would go tit for tat, but right now the the kinetic violence is coming from one side.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I just I just civil strife then.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Which which we are by most economic assessments, we are in a period of civil strife.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It does not mean a civil war will happen, But I think when Charlie Kirk gets assassinated, everyone can plainly see we're at least in a civil strife period.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I mean, not only that, but I mean you go two attempts on the president's life, and then there was the Minnesota lawmakers.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Just look at the reactions to these political events.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And then there's you know, this Charlie Kirk.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Like it's not like there haven't been significant back and forth kind of attacks on different ideologies from one side or the other.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		But it's it's it's not the same like when it's an attack on a left wing, or it's like there's always asterisks when it's an attack on a right wing, or it's like everyone endorsing it, or when they do give these condemnations, it's like there's so many like qualifiers on it, where it's like, well, you know, he was this bad guy, but we shouldn't kill him.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I I I mean I agree, like the left does apologize for it a lot more than the right does.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Um but the point that I'm making is that that we are like the whether or not we're in a period of civilist strife is not in question.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		No, that's a hundred percent.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'm just I'm just like it's not gone kinetic from the right.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Last year ended with Manioni.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		And then the new year happened with a warning, by the way.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		That should have been a warning.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Dude January 1st was a New Orleans terror attack and the cyber truck blowing up outside of Trump Tower.
		Yeah, think about all the things that have happened since and like they went into that terrorist's uh house and you know, miraculously his Quran was open up to the page on Martyrdom and journalists in there.
		That's a whole other story.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It was the weird truck guy in the truck.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Uh in in New Orleans.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm talking about.
		Uh, you know, we've had and don't even forget about the drones in the sky that that led up to uh Maniony.
		Uh we had the guy who fired upon all those firefighters in Idaho, what you're saying in Minnesota, the Catholic church shooting.
		I mean, there's other shootings that have happened.
		The same day Charlie was shot, there was a Colorado school shooting.
		Right.
		So it it's that is just happening.
		It seems like it's happening a much more frequent clip.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And a lot of those that like the the school shooting, the Catholic school shooting, that was definitely politically motivated because it was a trans person that was attacking Catholics.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Didn't you grow up in a Catholic family or something, something like that?
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Some mom worked out the hate it or something.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		People that hate their father.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		But again, that person that shooter was referencing all these other cult type figures that were mass shooters, and they referenced all of them across the political spectrum.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		It creates a distortion when you hear about it.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		To Tate's point, the idea that the left...
		Well, the the fact of the matter is the left doesn't accept a lot of the things that are actually leftists.
		Like they're trying to deny that this kid was a leftist.
		They're doing everything they can to swear up and down that he wasn't.
		They wouldn't say that the trans shooters, any of them, are politically motivated, even though they have an ideology that is the exact reason why they hated people and why the exact reason why they went after the targets they did.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		There's no other reason.
		Like there actually isn't.
		There's like no other reason.
		You you're uh you know, the Catholic school should be like saying why the what other reason would you shoot up a Catholic school?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Saying that a the trans shooters that go and shoot up Catholic school is not political is like saying Dylan Roof going to a an all-black church and shooting all black people is not political.
		So if you don't if you think he's just a crazy person and that's not political, then I then I can say, okay, I disagree, but then I would understand why you would say the trans person is not.
		But if you think one is political and the other is not, then you're just being dishonest.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		No, you know what I know is these are these leftists like when it comes to I'm a musician, I'm in the music thing.
		One thing I hear a lot from leftists and a lot of this left wing culture is that everything is inherently political.
		I hear that a lot.
		I hear that.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Marxists, the personality.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		How convenient?
		How convenient when it's looking bad on your end, it's not political today.
		But tomorrow, some guy in a Trump shirt does something, or even just wearing a red hat, it's not even a Trump hat, does something.
unidentified		It's a it's a this they it's it's like a lot switch might.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		That's why no one takes him seriously, and that that's why there's an exodus.
		It's like the death throes of an insane group of people.
		That's what I that's what it looks like.
		And you and going on to your guys' point, you said kinetic energy, and I love that.
		But I was looking, just all the energy that you're seeing from all this tension that's been happening.
		Just look at all the protests that have happened over the past ten years, all the file, all the destruction.
		No one talks about that in in conjunction with this.
		We have had signs, the Luigi Mangiani thing.
		We've seen people die already for political purposes.
		We've seen people like killings out of out of spot in the back.
		People get shot in the back.
		Like I'm I'm a Christian, I believe anyone should die.
		And so when I see people going, yeah, kill the b there are much better ways to go about taking care of these problems.
		That's why we live in the United States of America.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Well like fundamentally yeah well it's like fundamentally and what you're saying is like they're they don't kill Charlie Kirk if they think they're winning.
		They kill him when they're completely demoralized that feel like the boots on their neck.
		That's when you strike because they're a cornered animal.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		It's the death throws mine.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It's the death throws exactly like you said precisely.
		So it's like yeah that's exactly what's going on is they're not they're not negotiating for him they don't have the higher ground.
		This is what you do and you know you're on the way out when you're demoralized.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		This is the backs against the wall let me let make sure you never forget me.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		That's what it feels like.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		This is how I look at it.
		Like they've always been a death cult but it's been in the shadows and I compare it to Ted Bundy operating in the shadows for so long undetected and once he's caught he jumps out of a window takes a log and just goes crazy.
		And then they get him.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		This think about this I'll go I'll say one more thing before Alexey guys take the wheel whatever so I've been talking my but I'll look at it.
		I'll look at these people where was I gone with this I actually completely forgot crazy people back against the wall back's against the wall.
		Um I still forgot this is why I'm not a podcaster and I just sing songs might I think I had a good point somewhere and it escaped me guys everyone trust me I had a sick point.
unidentified		That was a clip that you'll pretend it was a great point.
unidentified		Yeah but I appreciate you guys didn't hear it.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		No I knew it was good.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I I knew I we look just we'll cut it and it's a hit a great great point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That was a great point but the feed cut out and as we here we go we'll round it out with probably the straightforward news of all straight forward news.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Post money reports quote it was me at UVU suspect in Charlie Kirk killing gave a parent confession in a Discord chat saying hey guys I have bad news for you all it was me at UVU yesterday.
martha maccallum ▲ ● ▼		Let's uh we'll play the video ports of a confession posted on Discord from Charlie Kirk's suspected assassin hours before after the murder but hours before his father turned him in to authorities in Utah this is Washington Post reporting on this at this point justice correspondent David Spunt joining me now live from Washington.
david spunt ▲ ● ▼		Hi David What keeping it Martha about two hours before he was turned into authorities this according to the Washington Post we are working to independently confirm this as well but the Washington Post says that Tyler Robinson the 22 year old suspect charged in Charlie Kirk's murder confessed and I want to read this according to the Washington Post writing on Discord that social media chat group that the FBI says he used quote hey guys I have bad news for you all it was me at UVU yesterday.
		I'm sorry for all of this, this coming from The Washington Post.
		Now, this comes as DOJ officials began late last week and over the weekend, looking at the potential for at least one federal charge.
		No guarantee they'll get there.
		A department spokesperson declined comment, but a source familiar said investigators are not ruling anything out at this time, especially his online gaming presence, his chats, as we just mentioned.
		Who was he talking to?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like they're trying to go after on federal charges by his use of the Internet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		uh I mean it looks like they got enough evidence.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah they've they're on video running away I'm still his dad turned him in same shoes same gun yeah I'm still reserving judgment after all the long history of things that have happened sure I don't want to I don't want to actually feel confident with this person I want to get whoever it is I think it's a lot of people but it's too clean for me so far.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And the whole Discord thing that they've gone back and forth with what the Discord is about what's the Discord lied.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Clearly so but I here here here's the thing it's not like the movies people think that if some young guy who has no idea what he's doing manages to get a shot.
		So apparently he was raised in a in in a in a family that was around guns and he went hunting so he knew how to shoot.
		It's not it wasn't people keep it it's it's okay.
		People are lying being like you had to be a pro to make a shot from this from 150 yards Google it.
		Look it up I saw I I've seen little kids make shots like that with 100% accuracy.
		This is the thing though like when I talk about post-reality you can go online there's experts saying one forget the expert I'll tell you this we have a range it's local I we used to go there quite a bit I have watched a 12 year old I'm not even kidding a little 12 year old with a bolt action rifle hit 100% accuracy at about 100 yards.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		To me it's the the angle he was shooting, if it's if he's at where he was saying over the heads of all those people.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I think that is probably a little harder.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I've looked at I've looked at a lot of people say both.
		I don't miss.
		I've got a I've got I've got a 357 Magnum Winchester.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's my it's one of my favorite long guns, and at 50 yards I don't miss iron sights, no scope.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And I'm reserving judgment because I've seen people who say they're experts all guns saying one thing and experts saying a completely other thing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You should also keep in mind it's likely that he actually missed where he was aiming for.
		At 200 yards, he's he was very likely aiming center mass, because that's generally what you do, and the bullet hit him in the neck.
		So he actually wasn't trying to shoot him in the neck.
		Nobody would actually be taking an aim or taking aim at the neck.
		Even professionals, they would be aiming for the face, which they call the T, which is basically between the eyes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Even that's rare.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, even rare.
		Yeah.
		But at 200 yards, it's it's doable for pro.
		But for him, he was aiming here and he and he got him in the neck.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There are two arguments.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One is that from the angle, he there was actually going to be a lift in that what he was aiming for would actually hit higher.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So he was so that argument is he was aiming center mass, and when it fired, it actually went a little bit higher because he actually wasn't a particularly good shot.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The other argument is that he didn't account for drop and was aiming for the head.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, only thing I can say is this.
		Forget all the experts.
		I can tell you this, Shane, I will bring you out to the range.
		Have you ever any training?
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		A little bit.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Okay.
		So I guarantee you within an hour or two, you're gonna hit a hundred percent of your shots with a scoped bolt action.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Still have 150 yards.
		About just this this guy being a lone wolf.
		A ton.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I was thinking I don't I don't think he's a lone wolf.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And I and I'm still reserving judgment on him being an actual shooter.
		I think there's too many weird things.
		How he knew where the tent would be set up when he got there, when did he get there?
		No, that's he parked in the morning because last time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, no, no, no, hold on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This the these events are planned well in advance.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		But you don't know where the tent's gonna be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yes, you do.
		You think I think they have to submit a ground floor plan for security well in advance.
		So right now you get that.
		So knew somebody.
		I don't think he was working alone.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I'm three hours away.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		So then the network is that big.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
		This is this is why this is what I'm saying.
		Like this, everyone keeps saying stuff like in in, and I mean this respectfully, not but in ignorance, how could he have known where the tent is going to be?
		Because two months out, they submitted their security plan to the university, and they said, here's where Charlie will be.
		And so somewhat the school said, It's gonna be so cool when Charlie shows up, they're gonna put him right in the pavilion.
		Something that simple.
		So I'm I'm traveling and we're a month out, and I'm coordinating with security, travel, vehicle, all of this stuff a month away from me just going to a new city.
		So for this, what does it look like?
		A young guy, radicalized online, who has trans friends, hears over and over again how Charlie Kirk wants to kill trans people because the left keeps saying, and then gets it in his mind to go and kill Charlie.
		It is also kind of opposed this the my concern with with Charlie's security, honestly, is that they chose the center of the pavilion right in the middle, creating line of sight from all the surrounding buildings.
		But the truth is Charlie genuinely didn't think this was gonna happen, which is sad and kind of crazy because I gotta be honest, neither did I. And we talk about the violence all the time, and I still didn't think it was possible.
		When we do listen, Alex Stein and I were going to go to a university in three weeks and do quite literally the exact same thing, and we didn't, and we planned this.
		The plan for this has been four or five months out.
		So it's entirely likely that the universe we were going to was well aware of where Alex and I were gonna be, where was likely gonna be set up very, very easily, and now we're canceling because of what happened to Charlie.
		We we didn't consider it possible.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		So you think someone leaks that information from the school to someone in a chat?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I I don't think you need to leak it.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Dude, it's like I don't think it's that public.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think there's a 27-year-old who is coordinating watering the grass with security, who said, make sure you don't park anything over here because we're gonna have this thing with TPUS saying he's gonna be speaking here, and he went, okay.
		And this it's just everyone knows.
		It's not compartmentalized.
		So I think people they see these things and they think it's gotta be like a movie.
		How is he how was the guy caught?
		Well, let's let's be honest.
		I do respect the work that Cash and Dan had been doing personally going out, but he got turned in.
		So apparently the story is they couldn't figure out who who it was.
		They watched all the surveillance footage.
		They, against the the advice of of other agents put out the images of the suspect, and then the father turned him in.
		And I guess what happened was the kid said the shooter, I guess the story is I don't know, and this could be false too.
		It's still early, that he would rather die than go to jail.
		And the dad physically restrained him until the police could come and get him.
		And the principal reason, and Bannon and Luke Rodkowski have ragged on the FBI for this.
		The principal reason dude got caught was because his family turned him in, not because of hardcore groundwork from the feds.
		I don't think that's that's fair.
		I think they worked really hard on this.
		But it's actually the simple solution.
		He didn't really know what he was doing.
		He didn't really plan.
		He was telling his friends because he didn't know how to react.
		There's that it's not that planned out.
		However, I do agree with you that I don't believe a lot of this when they're saying he acted alone.
		You have messages from people on social media that clearly knew it was going to happen.
		I think he was bragging about it.
		I think he knew.
		And then when it came to this Discord stuff, there's a couple potentials.
		He was talking to people in Discord he had not previously communicated with.
		Or it could be that his trans roommate had been saying, hey, he's gonna go do it to these people in advance.
		So then when he came in, there's a lot of ways we can look at it.
		I do think one of the more interesting conspiracy theories is that the trans roommate is the actual shooter, and this Robinson guy said these things in Discord to intentionally take the fall.
		Don't know.
		Still a conspiracy theory.
		Official reporting is that this guy all in all likelihood is the person who did it.
		For all we know, that when they say that here's what people need to consider about online messages as evidence.
		Social media posts are interesting because they originate from different places and different areas.
		So that's hard to fake.
		However, if you live with someone, he the this is why I find this conspiracy theory interesting.
		Not that I think it's true, but it is something to consider.
		The trans roommate is the actual shooter.
		That's the conspiracy theory.
		I don't I'm not saying it's true.
		But how easy would it be for the roommate to go into this guy's room, go on his open his lap laptop and say, It was me, I did it, and then run to the other room.
		And then go, oh, I'm so shocked.
		I can't believe he did it.
		Look, he said it in Discord.
		That proves it.
		And Cash and everybody are like, open and shut case.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And that's that's why I'm reserving judgment.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And uh I just have lots of questions.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, they found DNA on the towel that wrapped the gun that matched the shooter.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		And that's why I said nothing to me yet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's why I say, and and and also considering they said it, I don't know how you prove it to the public, but you you you trust cash, right?
		But that's why I that's why I say the Israel stuff, the griper stuff, it's just like whatever, man.
		That that's so circuitous and goes to such a weird path to make true.
		The trans roommate conspiracy theory is interesting because of course they found his DNA.
		The trans roommate took his towel.
		And it's it's not complicated.
		Someone you lived with doing it, and they have similar builds and similar appearance, and that's why the conspiracy theory exists.
		Again, I'm not saying it's true.
unidentified		Sure.
unidentified		Yeah.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		I just people are going to manipulate you right now with everything they put out.
		Like we were talking about earlier with that video where you were saying it's not people on the roof.
		There's other people saying it's a palm gun.
		Like they're flooding the zone with so much bad information.
		The one thing possible to believe anything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The one thing I do find interesting is, and this is very difficult, is the uh the the uh 30-6 impact on Charlie.
		That's a massive bullet.
		And so I'm I'm curious what you think, Phil.
		I I it it's difficult to get into detail, but there have been posts online where they say, How could a 30 out six make this kind of wound?
		They would have expected some kind of different.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You can yeah, I mean, you can look online and see like hunting videos of dudes hunting with 30 odd six and when they hit a deer.
		Like I someone was talking about, oh, like it would have blown up his neck and blah, blah, blah.
		I mean, look, it I don't know exactly where these people are getting these ideas, but seriously, you can go to Google or go to YouTube.
		There's a ton of videos of dudes hunting when a uh even a big boy like a like a 300 Winchester, like which is bigger than a 30 odd six, like it doesn't explode.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's people comparing a watermelon exploding.
		Yeah like a body.
		A watermelon they're thinking that that will happen to a neck.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's it's a totally different thing.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Like you've got you've got bone, you've got muscles, don't react the same way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so what's crazy to me about this is that this actually is a fairly simple case.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a one of the original videos showing the dude on the roof, it was someone filming during the event going, and you can hear them go, is there a dude on that roof?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So that's why they started filming it.
		And we got that footage after the fact because they didn't think anything of it until it happened and went, Oh, dude, I filmed that.
		Holy crap.
		Then there's video footage we've all seen of the dude running across the roof and then climbing down and running away.
		There's the video of the dude walking with a limp, seemingly trying to hide the rifle.
		I understand it's it's it's a little bit more difficult for the FBI to release all of the incriminating evidence because they want to build a case against us, but I think they've been fairly transparent.
		Here's the sad thing.
		I met I've met uh uh over the weekend I talked to a lot of people.
		I've had people who recognize me.
		It's about three people over the over the weekend.
		Ask me if it was real.
		Not kidding.
		They said, Did did that really happen?
		And I was like, Yes.
		And they're like, for real.
		And I was like, I'm on the phone with friends who are crying their eyes out because their friend died.
		Yeah, this really happened.
		But there are people who think it was staged, it was faked.
		There's um people posting these videos where they're arguing that Charlie is still alive.
		Uh it's just wild.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		They're even they're even getting footage of uh Charlie's body in the casket after the uh the mortuaries covered him in makeup.
		They're like, his skin's too yellow.
		People are being weird, and they're and then the whole plane thing, you guys hear about the plane, everyone's like, There's this plane that went to Israel.
		It's just it's strange, mate.
		And yeah, especially that mortuary one, people just need to look into it.
		They cover you in makeup and your skin changes color, and that's that's part of the process of embalming, bro.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Apparently, the person who took the private jet flight has issued a big statement being like we were we were taxiing, like we it was me and these people, these are the people that were on it.
		We have nothing to do with anything.
		I think uh I think for a lot of people it's just hard to believe that it was so simple.
		A uh a radicalized guy penetrated security and ended the life of this giant.
		I don't think people understand because I I think the reason people want to believe in conspiracy in the story is because it's it's hard to believe that one, it's hard for people to believe Charlie is gone.
		Those who actually liked him or cared about him.
		And for a lot of people, they don't want to believe that any day at any point you could be walking down the street, you get on a subway train and sit down while you're on your phone, and a man behind you will jump up and knife you in the neck three times.
		People don't want to believe that's possible.
		That couldn't happen to Charlie, but it does.
unidentified		Yep.
unidentified		Yep.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		And also, just one more thing.
		I just feel like there are also a group of people who don't want to see this investigation end.
		There are a lot of people who take joy in in massacres and and just in in they enjoy the the process of figuring it out, and they like to create like you were talking about with the red, the red string.
		They like to create these tapestries of ideas and things like that.
		And to me, you know, I see him.
		You know, you see them online, they're like, but it's gonna be this, it's gonna be I see a lot of people take uh a good amount of joy in seeing seeing things unfold and they don't really want the drama to end.
		And I feel like people forget about people like that a lot.
		You see them everywhere, you know.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
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		What do y'all have to say, my friends?
		Kremit says, Love you, Tim.
		Thank you for doing what you do.
		We really do appreciate it.
		And uh I will just stress to these leftists who are claiming that the right doesn't fear death.
		We have very serious security issues all the time.
		We have security guards frisking people.
		It is, it is it's crazy.
		It's it's it's absolutely crazy.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Non stop.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Shane H. Wilder says, Thanks to all who joined the ex prayer space for Charlie Sunday or listened later.
		It was worth losing my voice for.
		Side note.
		Texans chose a moment of silence for all victims of violence and the floods.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Tim, I'm gonna run out and do my show.
		But I want to say everyone confronted evil this this past week.
		Yes.
		And it was nice to see churches overflowing with people because they couldn't deny the fact that evil is so present in this fallen world.
unidentified		Yep.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		So God bless all you guys.
		We'll be at Inverted World Live at 10 o'clock tonight.
		See you guys later.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it's time to bring back exorcisms.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Mass exorcisms.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I and everyone's responses, Tim, they still do them.
		I know.
		I'm saying make make do more.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		Way more.
shane cashman ▲ ● ▼		All right.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		These ghouls out of here, mate.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I'm good to make sure.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Shortwave says, with all the violent rhetoric, I would like to ask the guest his views on the amount of drop bear attacks.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Let me guess who are you talking about, mate?
		You're talking about me.
		Drop bears only attack tourists, mate.
		Never seen them.
		They only attack tourists who drink fosters, mate.
		So watch out.
		Love the drop bears, mate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I heard you guys don't actually even have fosters in Australia.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that true?
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		That's actually, yeah, it's true.
		So basically what Fosses is, it's a novelty beer.
		I don't know if it was a beer that Australians drank originally, but we drink, we have state beer, so we have VB.
		I grew up in Victoria, small town called Bendigo, Country Town.
		You drink VB there.
		Some places will drink Great Northern, some places will drink 4X Gold.
		But there is a beer called Foster's that is renowned across the world for being Australia's beer.
		Really, all it is is a tourist beer for British people.
		There are more people in the UK that drink fosters and drinking at bars and in the whole entire of Australia.
		No one, you don't you don't say it on tap, but you don't see it anywhere, mate.
		So it's a lie, mate.
		Don't fall for conspiracy theories.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I love you.
		I love you, Giordanos, but I'm gonna say that about Giordanos in Chicago.
		Deep dish pizza.
		You go to the you go to the average person who doesn't who's never been to Chicago or not from Chicago, and they think pizza in Chicago is all deep dish, and they're like, oh yeah, I don't like Chicago pizza.
		When Chicago pizza is actually all tavern pizza, it's all fit.
		Uh no, no.
		It's just thin crust that's kind of that's kind of firm and it's cut into squares.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I like that.
		I had that in Chicago when I was there on tour last year.
		That's that's that's what it was.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's like 99% pizza.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But then everyone thinks that Chicago pizza is this big pie.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Soupy, saucy thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not necessarily soupy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What they do is it's a it's a the crust is like this tall, and they put a bunch of cheese in it, put dough over the top, and then put sauce on top, and so it's this thick pie, and it's for tourists.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Uh pizzeria that's a similar thing then.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Uno's pizzeria unos.
		We actually got an Unos out here.
		It's delicious.
		I do like it.
		But in Chicago, when you're like, let's order pizza, you're gonna get a large thin crust.
		Here's the crazy thing.
		People don't understand.
		New York pizza, the crust is like lifted up, right?
		It raises.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You order Papa John's, you get that thick crust on the end.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Dowie.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then you can you can stuff it with cheese.
		Yeah, Chicago pizza can't do that.
		Chicago pizza crust doesn't rise, and it's as thin as the rest of the crust, and it's like a cracker.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		It's like almost like a short bread, it's like dense.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Interesting.
unidentified		Yep.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		See, I I've I think I've had something similar.
		I was in Chicago.
		You know, like this is a change of subject.
		Sorry for anyone who's from Philly, mate.
		But the only American staple food that I can't bloody do, mate, is that Philly cheesesteak.
		I love my Philly pizza.
		We've got a lot of fans in Philly.
		But seriously, mate, it's like this dinner roll with this meat and some cheese whiz on it, bro.
		I'm like, America.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Well, the cheese whiz is the wrong way to go.
		I there are pillish people in Philly that's what do they say?
		Whiz wit.
		Yeah, they say wit whiz.
		Um but like, and that's the wrong.
		You go with go with the um provolone.
		There like some people get there are people in Philly that will swear up and down that it's not a Philly cheesesteak unless it's cheese whiz.
		I think that those people are evil.
		They're the devil, and you shouldn't listen to them.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		You're responsible for the full.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Go with the provolone.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The provolone is delicious.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		They are.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		We don't have much provolone.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Provolone's a psyop, stick with the cheese whiz.
unidentified		Whoa!
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Whoa!
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Psyops.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Controversial.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It's like yeah, this this feds.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		You're not from Philly, are you?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		No, but I'm gonna do that.
		I'm gonna stand up for the Philly heads.
		Memphis.
		And we have a lot of worst tourist traps there.
unidentified		Yeah, it's you know, but Trump's gonna say You guys aren't allowed to have cars, they just end up without wheels.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Cinder block Americans are.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Usually people from Memphis have better opinions than that.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I don't know about that.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're let's read some more.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		David Flores says if you allow your kids to follow destiny, you should be arrested for child abuse.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Facts.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		That's a great that's a great one, mate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, was it uh who who sent me the messages from his kid?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that that was that was Phil?
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Well, are they?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There are uh some tweets from uh Destiny's kid that just are brutal to see.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I I saying he doesn't love his mom or his dad and he didn't he had to raise himself because his dad abandoned him so he could sext women online.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		He said he sounds like a solid bloke.
		Yeah, it sounds like a good dad.
		You can you can judge a man based on how he treats his children.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He's got I mean the kids got legitimate grievances, you know.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, I'd be pissed at him.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		If my dad was destiny, I'd honestly I wouldn't tell anybody.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Not only not only is it destiny, but destiny abandoned him.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		So that would imagine your dad being the cuck lord destiny, mate.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Good grief.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		But then destiny abandoning you.
unidentified		That's just like that's not that's not a good stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I can see why you'd be angry.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		My dad's name is Destiny.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Like, what are we doing?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is it a stripper or Steven?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but you're not saying that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Even if here's Morgan.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		It looks like a bit of a Steven.
unidentified		Steven.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		It does look like an answer.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		G.I. Jeep says anybody got the number for a good national divorce attorney.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		We're doing ta-da.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just because I'm free says, remember the polls that said 55% had said they were okay with the killing of Donald Trump.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A majority of Democrats are beyond unifying with.
unidentified		Yep.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Fact check.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		True.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		JD.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		There was songs.
		It was signs so early on.
		And I feel foolish for not hating the signs and really like getting prepared mentally for what was to come.
		Because we saw death and and predictive pr predictions of death and celebrations of near death for the past.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Luigi was the litmus test.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that was like that was that was like that was the warning.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		That was like hello, people are dying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Involuntary commitment to an asylum, because this is literally not reality.
		These people are out here having full schizophrenic episodes like it's normal, criminal threats, too.
		I agree.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, you know, people talk about needing new laws all the time.
		No, no, no, you don't.
		If if somebody is posting online violent threats and they believe things that are objectively false, 5150, they are a threat to themselves and to others, and they clearly are delusional.
		I asked the uh the mental health professionals on the culture ward.
		What if someone's delusions aren't rooted in brain dysfunction but in being told lies?
		It doesn't matter.
		It's still called a delusion.
		It is still diagnosed as delusion.
		So the only problem with that is the left is gonna do it.
		And I suppose it's fair to say they'll do it anyway.
		They are they're gonna claim that.
		They've already tried this.
		They've already there have already been leftists that have claimed that if you're a conservative, you have a mental illness.
		And so I wouldn't be surprised if that's the direction they want to go as justification for why they're gonna lock you up.
		Red flag laws.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Gaius Macius says there needs to be a deep dive into Twitch.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I agree.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I doesn't Amazon own Twitch?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		AWS.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Do that US?
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we we need to hold Amazon accountable for what they're allowing on that platform.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because the the people who run it clearly are okay with it.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So everybody's everybody you know, I'm let me say this right now to everybody.
		They're all like finding these regular people and calling their jobs and getting them fired.
		Fine, whatever, I don't care.
		Y'all need to call Amazon, cancel your orders and stop using it until they until they force Twitch to course correct.
		I don't care if these people are allowed to do their thing and say whatever they want to say, not when they advocate for murder.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		We're inevitably funding the whole operation, so to me, I'm just like, I'm gonna boycott, boycott, boycott, mate.
		That's not even in my nature.
		I'm usually just like whatever, but yeah, mate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		SERP says the left cancelled NASCAR driver Connor Daly in 2018 after his dad had been found to have, I'm adding that, used a racial slur during a radio interview in the 80s.
		Now they're shocked they lose their job for cheering an assassination.
		That's right.
		That's a great cancel culture, Tim.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		That's that's inherited guilt, mate.
		That's inherited what's that, like inherited cancellation.
		I don't think I've seen that.
		That's a rare one.
		Your dad did something in the eighties, therefore, right now, 2018, you said you're done.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sailor Motico says if you've been paying attention to Candace, you'd see it's because she has lost her effing mind.
		Neithos says, Tim Candace Owens has taken so many red pills she's overdosed.
		She is bat-ish crazy now.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Your fans are brutal, mate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, half of them like Candace.
		Uh I met Candace a couple years ago when in her show, and I thought she was incredibly intelligent and uh insightful.
		Uh I have not watched her show uh as of recent, so I don't want to say I know exactly uh what she's saying, nor impugn her honor, because I don't know.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I don't know much of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's fair.
		I didn't watch her her video.
		So uh I I still think my my principal critique is the thumbnail saying they're lying about Charlie Kirk with a picture of Netanyahu at a time when there's people trying to claim Israel did it.
		And I've seen the some ex posts where the insinuation is that Israel did it.
		Um, which I think is silly.
		But, you know, I'm not gonna throw away all the work that she's done over one bad video or one video I'm criticizing.
		But you know there you go, I'll take your word for it, I guess.
		Seraphum says the CIA and government in general have admitted to experimenting on us.
		We have no reason to trust the government.
		You're correct, like in the Bay Area when they sprayed bacteria all over a bunch of people and got them sick.
		Or how about when Facebook was caught running experiments on the political perceptions of individuals by intentionally putting political ideology in their feeds?
		We're cooked.
		That's crazy.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Damn.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Lazy Bone says, ah, the DNA found in the towel that wrapped the gun, but not on the weapon, does not cooperate with FBI, but left a note pre killing Kirk, which is destroyed after but able to get fragments giving content.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I thought the uh the the statement about killing Kirk was on Discord.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they found for they so they did a forensic search and found evidence of the statement.
unidentified		Right.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		There's a there's a lot of people that are real quick.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This corroborates the the foreknowledge of these individuals on social media.
		The individual had said that they had a chance to do it and they were gonna do it.
		And wasn't it at like didn't didn't they say that message was from a while before Kirk went there actually?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't recall.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know, it's weird.
		People look at all these posts and they're like, he had foreknowledge.
		How did these people know in advance?
		Then Cash comes out and he's like, he had written a message saying he was gonna do it some time ago, delete it, but we found it.
		And they're like, nah, this seems too weird.
		I'm like, no, it actually makes perfect sense.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I was reading somewhere that there's that there are more messages in Discord that the FBI hasn't released and that they haven't made people.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, interesting because they want to produce produce.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They gotta go investigate those people in the chat room.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So that means that more information will come.
unidentified		Um so tip of the Osberg right now, the children all everything.
unidentified		Try your time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Guys, Mythos says, Tim, part of basic training in the US MC is a standing course at 200 meters with iron sights on an M16A2, five rounds, five minutes.
		I could hit that shot standing.
		Any veteran can make that shot in their sleep.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		It's not a it's not a particularly hard shot.
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's why it's crazy.
		We we've had people come here all frantic, be and and like not like I'm not I don't say dispreadingly but like excited to be like, and that shot was professional, right?
		And I'm like, no.
		I will tell you this right now.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		People always say that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was like, we can take you out to the range.
		It's it's really close.
		It's literally a five minute drive.
		And you, good sir, who have never fired a gun in your life, you will make that shot with about an hour's practice.
		I gotta be completely honest.
		They might make it on their first go.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sitting at a table with a bolt action, stabilized, looking through a scope.
		Now, the response then is yeah, but how could he have made it if he was scared and nervous prone and looking down?
		I'm like, Because he had a month of training.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		If not before when he was actually just shooting guns with his parents and stuff, they all say we're conservative and right wing and push all this stuff.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Especially since these types of people are actually insane, and I don't think they have any kind of we don't we don't have any right to go.
		They're probably nervous.
		I think you know he's going to kill a guy.
		I think he's you know, he's sitting on top of a roof, he's like, I'm gonna kill a guy today.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think he's like, Oh, I hope I don't miss, you know, he's just like not only that, but there's there's uh what is it, M AOI inhibitors?
		What do they take?
		People pop a pill before they're gonna go speak because it stops anxiety.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Like beta blockers, beta blockers, beta blocker.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Call that, yeah.
		I'll call that three B's.
		But um I'll let you guys talk about the ballistic stuff.
		We don't have guns in Australia.
		They um they don't let us have anything.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I mean you're a nation of criminals.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, of course.
unidentified		You guys are rebels with the criminals, Mike.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Omega Rosetta says no fill bullet drop.
		He was aiming for the face and it went low, and he wasn't using the drop compensator marking on the scope.
		In fact, the Mauser isn't that accurate with a MOA of three out of the box.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And so what an MOA is uh it's or three MOA is three inches at a hundred yards.
		So at 200 yards it would be a variance of six inches.
		Um I mean, look, maybe you could be right.
		Um I don't know what was in his head, I don't know where he was aiming.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People were saying he likely zeroed at a hundred yards, which means the scope was configured to be accurate at 100 yards, and this was 150, so we didn't compensate for for bullet drop, which at 150 yards would be uh one and a half to two inches.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		And also if you're aiming down, there's a there's a variation as to point of aim, point of impact.
		So there's there's a bunch of stuff that could go into it.
		I don't know where he was actually aiming.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm just gonna And I I I think it actually makes it makes sense if you were to argue that he wasn't professional, it was amateur because he aimed for the head.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I think uh, you know, uh uh professional hit man or sniper is gonna go chess, I'd imagine, right?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I mean it well it depends.
		If it's a pro, if it's a pro and he's got like good equipment, he can decide to put it in his nose if he wants.
		But if it's a dude with Especially at that range.
		Yeah, because the 200 yards isn't far.
		But if you're you know, if you've if you're not a pro, it makes sense that you would be aiming at the time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I I real quick, I wonder if the people who are saying that have ever been on a football field.
		Honest question.
		Because you know, like when I when I watch football games on TV, I was like, it's a big field.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then I got invited to the LA Coliseum and I went down there.
		I was like, wow, this is tiny.
		Yeah, it's really small.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		It's really small and thin.
		It's strange.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I kicked a 30-yard field goal.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Hey, congratulations.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, we all did.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's like me and a bunch of guys.
		I'm not saying we did it right away.
		We all took a crack at it and we are like, you know, we got it.
unidentified		Yeah.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		And that's representative of like how little uh training and stuff it takes to hit the target from.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		30 yards is not far.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Not let alone a let alone a a settled weapon that's with a scope and all the attachments that allow it to be super stable.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was actually tech analogy, but I was actually surprised when I was saying on the field that like 30 was a lot shorter than I thought it was.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		The TV makes that long, mate.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		It makes it look long on the football field, but you go there, it's just like whoa.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like actually this building that we're in from front to back is more is about it's 33 yards.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		No way, yeah.
		Right.
		Interesting.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And we we chuck stuff across the building easily.
		It's not very big.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Hey, rugby fields a bit longer than that, brother.
		You're South African, right?
		Yeah, brother.
unidentified		Oh no.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's grab some of these uh super chats over on YouTube.
		Make sure we we get you guys.
		Joe Spinel says, We shall have peace when the left answer for the sacking of the Westfold and the children that lie there.
		What is that a reference to something?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		JD Vance, probably.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		JD Vance.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		Give him a chance.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Elaine says, ask AI to see if the ADL consider Antifa as left wing.
		I have argued with Grok so much about ADL bias and its use as a base for fake stats.
		And it's really funny too, because uh ChatGPT and Grok like so obviously lie to you.
		Yeah, it's remarkable.
		You're you're like, ask it about George Floyd and then ask about Charlie Kirk, and you're gonna be like, why the double standard?
		Robot.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Real weird.
		You'll be like, you lied, and they're like, Yeah, my bad.
		Sorry about that.
unidentified		Yeah, dude.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's what you want, here's what you wanted you to do.
		Ask it about James O'Keefe, and then ask it about how Chet ask ChatGPT about James O'Keefe and Alex Jones.
		Then ask ChatGPT about how it was accused of uh goading a teenager into committing suicide, and you will see it reacts like a frantic person who was slighted.
		It's amazing.
		It'll be like Alex Jones was accused of this, that means it's true.
		And you'll say, Well, it's not true, it's just an accusation.
		I'll say, Yeah, well, it was reported as true, so it must be.
		And I'm I'm speaking figuratively, it'll give it'll give you Chat GPT language insinuating truth.
		Then when you ask it about how it it's reported to have goaded a teenager to committing suicide, it will immediately go defense and say none of that is true.
		It was it was an accusation that has not been proven in court, and so long it's not been proven to court, you can't act like it's true.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		That's freaky, especially since the young generations are becoming more dependent on AI as their Google and just as their general knowledge base.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Have you seen like some of these kids at school apparently like nowadays teachers you know trying to ban ChatGPT because all these kids are just doing all their tests with it?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's worse than that.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		So so but think about that.
		You think about all the maybe it's biased maybe it's just errors, I don't know, but just the general backtrack, it feels like a human who's intentionally messing with you.
		And the kids are looking at that as their truth, you know?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The teachers are actually making the tests on Chat GPT.
		The students are then using ChatGPT to finish the tests, and the teachers then grade the tests with Chat GPT.
		So no one is actually learning.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		No brands, yeah, man.
		Well, you look at obviously, bro.
		In in Australia, we got newspapers.
		You can tell you know how you can tell with the Chat GPT pasture techs have those those dashes.
		They got those M-dash, dude.
		Who uses that apart from a robot?
		It's the correct form of grammar.
		Um, but I've been I've been seeing uh whole newspapers, especially my hometown, they'd be using it.
		I'm like, so is is anybody real anymore?
		You know, you speak to a journalist, it's like, what do you do?
		He's like, I'm looking for a job, you know.
unidentified		There's not many journalists who out here who got jobs, you know.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		But um, yeah, Chat GBT might techno overlords.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let's see, we got Tessa Lynn says, My center left son, 32 came kicking and screaming to the right over the progressive response to Charlie's death.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		At a boy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's why I was like, maybe Destiny is actually just like a griper.
		And it's an act, and the reason why his kids are graper is because he raised him to be and it's all an act.
		And I'm like, if you want to convince a moderate liberal that the left are liars and evil, all you gotta do is show her Destiny's show, show her or him, and they're gonna be like, Yeah, I don't want anything to do with it.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And so he's like doing a big favor for the right by saying, quote, if you wanted Charlie Kirk to be alive, Trump should not have been president in the second term.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Man, that's a crazy quote.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's the wildest thing I think I've heard for a while.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		It's just ridiculous.
		It's just I understand how you could make that in good faith and not expect anything crazy to come from that.
		I I reckon personally, I think he has like a brain problem where he can't think before he speaks.
		So he does that a lot, dude.
		He just rattles off, says the quiet part out loud all the time.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		You mean spurgs out?
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Is that what I say?
		Spurs out.
		I spend too much time touching grass.
		I don't play video games or nothing.
		So I know what that means.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, we'll grab one more.
		Uh oops, says Tim, I hear what you were saying about Israel being a red herring and the Kirk assassination.
		But Candace opened up about how closer her and Charlie were to one another.
		Quote We we took over two hundred flights together.
		Uh absolutely fair point.
		I did not know Charlie that well.
		I consider him a friend, but I I I I want to stress this.
		I I said every time it's not like I called him to go golfing or anything like that.
		I literally texted him a week ago.
		You know, he had he had texted me with words of encouragement in the past, and uh we worked together on a certain project.
		I knew that I and my team could rely on him and his team, and so I consider him a friend.
		He wasn't just some guy that I had met one time or anything like that.
		So I I I absolutely again I I want to stress I uh I like Handis.
		I I don't watch a lot of her show and I'm careful.
		Um I I I will say fair point, I'm critical of that that thumbnail because it does insinuate that Israel did it or something that effect, but I didn't watch it, so I'll give it that.
		But uh there are certainly many people I would more heavily criticize overtly and easily, but all I can say is that when I've the the the interactions I've had with Candice, she's been insightful and intelligent, and uh if I don't know, I I I don't want to insult her having not watched a video, that's not fair.
		Yeah, so I'll put it after this.
		Yeah.
		Uh but some other people made those posts about Israel that were overt.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		And again, with all due respect to Ian Carroll, I like the guy as well.
		But I I I messaged him when he posted that Israel dead.
		I'm like, come on, bro.
		All right.
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		Now I know they never went away.
		We've talked about it.
		It's a half an hour video where I talk about my views on demons, possession, evil, a little bit about faith, but why I think demon and possession is Israel.
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		But that's uh video you guys uh check out and subscribe to that channel.
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		Uh yeah, Slowjack, you want to shout anything out?
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I got a show on October 17th in Nashville.
		I make rock music.
		So if none of you guys know me, that's what I do, mate.
		I'm not just an Aussie here to be a bit silly.
		Um I'm playing at the Canary Hall, October 7.
		I hope to see you're there, but apart from that, appreciate you guys having me on.
		It's like my second ever podcast ever, mate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hey, there you go.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
		So I'm just w I'm sitting in here like listening to you guys.
		I'm I feel like the stoog in the room, like, yeah, that's crazy.
		That's crazy, but it means a lot, guys.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It works out.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I've been a fan for a long time.
		This is sick.
		I feel like I'm in a dream, mate.
unidentified		You ride around.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I feel like I'm like when will I wake up, mate?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		I've been to off Australia for a couple tours and those flights are a killer in the morning.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Oh mate, there's 15 hours.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Don't tell me about it.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you can follow me on X and Instagram at RealTate Brown.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Mass Exorcisms, I agree, never surrender.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So I am Phil that remains on Twix.
		The band is all that remains.
		You can follow us on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.
		Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We will see you all at Rumble.com slash Timcast I R L right now.
		Give us a few seconds.
		Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified		Thank you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hey, there we go.
		Hey, Trump bombed a bunch of narco-terrorists.
		Did you guys see it?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Let's go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's blowing them up.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Blowing them up, mate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Blowing them up.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		It's a body everywhere.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And uh, I do want to also stress, I think the more fun conversation is demons and possession.
		So I'm gonna show you this video instead.
		I want you guys to watch this video.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh god, this guy's a pin.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know fuck.
unidentified		I want to dedicate this next one to an absolute piece of shit of a human being.
		Pronouns was if you take shit, you will get banned.
		crowd cheers We're sick piece Charlie Jack, a piece of shit crowd cheers
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, this guy's getting cancelled.
		All of his shows are getting knocked off.
		The venues are saying, fuck him, they don't want him there anymore.
		And uh, oh, he's he's panicking.
		He made a video's like, Well, I didn't really celebrate his death.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I was just goodbye.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Uh demons are real, people are possessed, and we need exorcisms.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		And he said he said, give me an ex.
		He said, I want an example of when I celebrate his death.
		Right, you got 33 seconds of the street.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Look at this.
		He's hiding and says, You piece of shit right here.
		Oh, I'm not celebrating.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Look at him knees up knees up like he's doing an exercise or something.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		His fans are screaming, he's dancing around.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		What a fucking mic.
		The worst.
		I mean, because he didn't worse.
		It's not even like you can tell it's not even it's genuine, he believes that, but like the the packaging, the presentation style is so fake.
		You know, this is a good thing.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		You guys know anything about this guy's music.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		It's terrible.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so he makes this kind of like pseudo-punk crap.
		You know that modern punk where just it's vapid crap.
		It's nothing, it's not sex pistols or anything.
		It's it's literally just like virtue signaling the the genre.
unidentified		Yeah.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		And he makes music going, I don't like government tyranny, I don't like suffering, I don't like death, basically.
		He's he's he's in rebellion of death and suffering and and uh political tyranny, basically.
		And meanwhile, here he is Meanwhile, political assassination happens to someone he does not like.
		Oh knees up, knees up.
		You know, fucking moron, mate.
		That's the way I look at it.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, or infamously where he was like, uh, you know, F you, you're not getting your country back.
		Yeah, just antagonizing an entire country.
		Given his his family everything.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I can't believe even if you agree with him, you can just tell he's not a good dude.
		You know, man.
		You just look at him and you're like, you know, you look at it, look at the way he's like look at it.
		You can tell he just d thinks he's so sick.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		And I'm like, how can you?
		So it's not like being a musician, like you try to just be down to earth, but people like this.
		I don't understand why people go, oh, yeah, let me let me buy a ticket to see this guy like uh uh like just dance around in his own ego, mate.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I think it's just like everyone lacks so much confidence.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		They see someone that's willing to be confident, like, oh yeah, let's do it.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		It's enigmatic.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		I just think it's behind him, you know.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's just Shawnee object syndrome, mate.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		That's actually a great way to describe it.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		And it's just a controversy.
		Everyone loves it, something to ogle at.
		But I think the majority of the views this guy's getting are just people who hid him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I I think you know, 5150 doesn't go far enough.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Real.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I I'm I'm proposing the 5151, which is involuntary uh uh placement into an asylum followed by an exorcism.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Hey, I like that.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		There we go.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I like that.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I like that a lot.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I gotta be honest, it make it old school too, one of those padded rooms with the straight jacket.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a little rubber.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In all seriousness, could you imagine what your typical liberal or leftist activist would do if they were forced to undergo an exorcism?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		We'd be fixed.
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Imagine how take a pink and blue-haired liberal screaming woman.
		Oh fat as well.
		And then how do you think they would react to a forced exorcism?
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Screaming, crying.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Their head would spin around like a demon.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Snap out of it and they'd be like, Oh, you want to discuss tax policy?
unidentified		Anyone?
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I feel like I want to get a job and get employed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What if that's a employment?
		You want to make a really offensive horror movie?
		Let's make a really a really offensive horror movie.
		So it's uh a priest and he's got like two sidekicks, and then they like go to some building and they see some like trans violent people are beating a guy or something screaming at him for being a bigot, and then they just they fight him off, but grab one of the one of the trans guys and start performing an exorcism on him, and then the trans person is screaming like don't you care?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Oh god, help me, please!
unidentified		The demon is doing this, don't you dare blue hands to run.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the the blue the blue hair turns brown and then turns blue again, and light cop starts to run.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's working, it's working and then he just turns back to a regular looking guy with a suit on, he's like, Oh, sets up and he goes, I'm I'm a man again.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I like to think it's in the hair dots.
unidentified		The demon hair dye might the deep the demon hair dye seeps into the brain and you wanna you want to be gay and shit.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		The hair dye is actually good because it's a good one.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		That'd be a great plot divorce.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I like to think of it society's normal.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		It's almost like a watt picket fence.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I got it.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Hey, what's this?
unidentified		Everywhere.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You gotta do it like the old 80s horror movies, and the way the movie starts with a with a hair dye factory, and it's a bunch of dudes and in like lab coats and they're like setting the dials and everything, and then all of a sudden it cuts to outer space and there's like a meteor flying through the air.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then it shows the guy cleaning, and the meteor punches through the roof, lands in the vat of hair dye, and then the one guy goes, You hear something, Jim?
		And he goes, Nah, we're good.
		Anyway, and then it starts playing an eerie music as the bottles are getting getting filled up with hair dye on the conveyor belt.
unidentified		And then when people put in the hair dye, they're like, eh, yeah, planet work.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Planet work, attacking the attack of the mutants might.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's Halloween, and some guy is like, I got the spray on hair dye.
unidentified		Shh.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		He was like this like football quarterback and shrivels into this little five foot tail I'm shit.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		He likes sprouts all these piercings on his face and his impulse everywhere.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		I want to just go inside and stay there for the rest of my life, he says.
unidentified		But Chad, you're not yourself.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		You're a bigot, you too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dude, never like priest smacks the guy in the face with a cross and the hair dye flies off.
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		He's like sizzling, you know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Apparently it's we're mixing aliens, sci-fi, and demons, but it's okay because it's funny.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I'm picturing.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		That's what I'm picturing.
		That kind of like campy.
		Oh, just make out point, make out point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Hey, wait, that's an idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're saying the trans people are actually aliens, and they're as they do in the k the clown.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		A giant safe space drops from spice.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		And that's why it's called a safe spice, it's from spice.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Lands in the middle of a cornfield.
		Old man Jenkins comes out like in the movie with these dogs.
		Oh no, no, no.
		You know, it's in the middle of Arkansas or something, walks out, he's like, Oh my god!
		And it's just a bunch of blue people, yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Privilege, privilege.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		And they're slowly taking over man connects.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I think this is actually canon.
		I think this is what has happened.
		We should tell Steven Miller they're aliens.
		He's like, I'm on it.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		Let's just get someone on it.
		I don't really care.
		I just want to say it on the screen.
		Could be the worst movie of all time.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		True.
serge du preez ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I'd love it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, let's uh grab callers.
		We got Bert.
		What is up for everybody else?
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		But Bert was going to him only.
unidentified		How's it going, guys?
		Thank you so much for taking my call.
		My question tonight is for the whole panel.
		Given the precedent that was set with the removal of Parler from the Android and Apple app stores, and from AWS for public safety concerns following January 6th.
		Do you think it's reasonable to lobby for similar actions against Blue Sky, Reddit, and threats?
		If so, what's the best way to go about it?
phil labonte ▲ ● ▼		So I mean, is it reasonable?
		Yes.
		If you're a person that says that you l are super pro free speech, is it advisable?
		Maybe not.
		Um, but also if you don't give a shit what the fucking hypocrites on the left say, maybe it is.
sloe jack ▲ ● ▼		As for how to go about it, there's different ways to attack these people.

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