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tim pool
Unconfirmed reports that Russian drones launched an incursion into NATO territory.
Numerous reports are flying around that Poland, NATO, and other military installations in Europe are on high alert.
We don't know for sure.
It's seeming like it may either be a false alarm or may be winding down.
But numerous outlets, individuals were sharing images, air traffic that appear to show NATO was taking this seriously.
We reached out to some sources.
We don't know for sure.
Maybe it was a big nothing burger, but Ukraine claims to have confirmed that Russian drones did enter NATO airspace.
So maybe.
We'll talk about that.
We've also got, and it's kind of strange to actually put this in the front on the lead on this one.
Video release showing a UAP bifurcating a Hellfire missile.
It's pretty scary because that's pretty advanced tech for us to get easily destroyed by some unidentified aerial phenomena.
We'll talk about that.
And then, of course, the follow-up in the arena Zarutska story.
New video has emerged.
Responses to CNN.
Van Jones, of course, claiming that Charlie Kirk was a race monger for daring to mention it maybe about race.
Kind of ironic coming from Van Jones and CNN after a decade of race mongering.
But new video that has been released.
It is being reported.
We can't confirm.
It's hard to.
We'll play.
You can hear the audio.
The killer says something to the effect of, I got that white girl.
So it appears to be racial.
We'll talk about that.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Tony Kinnett.
Who are you?
What do you do?
tony kinnett
I'm at the Daily Signal.
I do a little show out of Indiana and I get under the USA Today's skin.
Well, at least as long as they're still open.
tim pool
Right on.
Well, it should be fun.
Jack Pesobic is here.
jack posobiec
I am back.
I'm in the guest seat for once in a while.
Tim, glad to see that you and hear that you are doing better.
tim pool
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I have returned.
unidentified
Unfortunately for the world at large.
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I'm Libby Emmons.
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Glad to be here with all you guys.
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phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil LeBonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, all that remains.
I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
We got the story from BNO News.
Poland on high alert after Ukraine says Russian drones entered its airspace.
Now, Sky News reported this, breaking, saying that Ukraine has confirmed Russian drones, and these are not little bitty ones, these are big boys, have entered NATO airspace.
Now we're seeing posts flying all over Twitter showing air traffic reports, radar, flight radar, saying that it looks like Italy's involved.
Let me pull up some of the tweets we got here.
We got Mario Noffel, check this out.
He says, breaking.
Unverified reports claim Russian drones entering Poland, Moldova, Slovakia, airspace.
New reports allege Russian attack drones have entered airspace over Moldova-Slovakia, in addition to Poland.
Commercial aircraft reportedly diverted Polish Air Force aircraft active in the eastern regions.
Previous reports claim three-plus drones were downed.
Unconfirmed reports now claim drone incursion in three NATO countries, multiple nations scrambling air defenses, civilian flights being rerouted, but no official confirmation.
Mario Noffel tweets, Italian early warning aircraft joins NATO response to alleged drone incursions.
An Italian G550 CAEW aircraft reportedly launched near Estonia and is heading south toward eastern Poland, joining growing NATO air activity.
A Dutch A330 tanker with fighter escorts from Germany.
You've got Polish Air Force active in the eastern regions.
NATO QRA fighters with unconfirmed reports of the Russian drones entering NATO airspace.
And I'll stress again: Sky News reporting this.
Russian drones entering Polish airspace.
We have some of these images.
Now, I think the thing that's disconcerting for me is that Ukraine, they're the ones who are confirming this.
And they have been desperate to force NATO into the conflict since it started.
We have Germany issuing the arrest warrant for the Ukrainian nationals who bombed the Nord Stream pipeline.
And of course, that was then blamed on Russia.
Ukraine has consistently made efforts to force NATO into direct war with Russia.
So that's my fear.
While I certainly could believe Russia would make a move like this, I'm also concerned Ukraine might do some dirty, nefarious, underhanded war tactics to try and force us into the fight.
jack posobiec
Again, you know, we're still trying to confirm this.
I've reached out to a number of contacts that I have throughout government, let's just say, and I've not been able to get anyone to confirm anything as of right now.
Also, I haven't been able to get anyone to deny it, you know, to say that it's affirmatively not true.
So what seems to be the most true at this point, that the NATO response is clearly, they're clearly responding to the reports.
However, the veracity of the reports, I think, is still up for, you know, up for confirmation.
And, you know, Tim, to your point, you know, it's, it's, it would be a very, very strange situation if Russia were to choose this moment to attack NATO when they have been very careful not to up until up until this moment.
Obviously, it serves no ground advantage for them.
It doesn't serve their strategy to make a fight with NATO right now.
So, of course, you know, all remains to be seen.
Are we looking at potential just false reporting?
Are we looking at a potential where there were drones that perhaps were pushed off course or went off course?
All remains to be seen.
tim pool
The scary thing is, it could be accidental, like you said, pushed off course, maybe intentionally, accidentally, but I don't think that's a good idea.
jack posobiec
There's technology that can do that.
tim pool
Of course, of course.
But back in the early days of the consumer-grade drones, it was extremely easy to seize control of these.
jack posobiec
Oh, yeah, that was like a whole thing.
Well, yeah, you would have they used to call it like it was part of the drone wars that you would try to steal someone's like radio.
tim pool
Bro, I just, me and my buddies, like, my friend would launch a drone.
I'd be like, I'm taking it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It was very, very, very easy to do.
libby emmons
But you could just like hack into it or whatever?
tim pool
Hack is a very strong word over literally.
tony kinnett
It's a signal.
unidentified
Oh.
Yeah.
tim pool
And I wouldn't call it hacking.
I would call it like turning on yours.
That's how easy it was.
tony kinnett
Well, it's all about strength.
So like the closer the signal is, the stronger, the more power you aim at it.
It just brushes the other guy out of the way.
And then all of a sudden you're the one in control of that.
tim pool
And you can mess up its GPS and then cause it to land very easily.
So, you know, my buddy could launch his drone and I could land it and he'd be like, son of a, and it'd be, you know, far away.
Now, this is me and my friends doing research intentionally.
So this is not like us doing it to anybody else's.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
But I will just stress, if one of the problems we have in the United States, what really bothers me is that people fly drones on other people's property.
You can't do it.
But you as the property also can't do anything about it, which is messed up.
libby emmons
Why can't you do anything about it if it's your property?
You can't shoot it down because of the FAA, right?
tim pool
Because you can't shoot guns into the air.
phil labonte
Yeah, that's the thing.
tim pool
Not only that, but it is illegal to shoot aircraft.
And these are aircraft.
So my concern is, do we trust Ukraine if it really did happen?
jack posobiec
I'm going to say stay frosty.
I always say this.
Anything that comes out of the war zone, that gray zone of warfare, initial reports are always different from what ends up coming out.
So stay frosty.
phil labonte
Wait to see what Poland says.
Well, wait till other NATO comes.
jack posobiec
I'm actually reaching out to people in Poland right now.
tony kinnett
We do actually have an update from Poland itself.
They have issued another notice to airmen issued for Eastern Poland by the Polish Civil Aviation Authority about 15, 20 minutes ago, this time for the Lublin airport.
Jack, do you know where Lublin, Poland is?
jack posobiec
My family is very, from very close to Lublin.
tim pool
Gotcha.
unidentified
Perfect.
phil labonte
Thanks.
tim pool
Sydney Morning Herald has it confirmed.
jack posobiec
But you're saying they've issued a notice just.
tony kinnett
Basically, they've said that unplanned military activity related to ensuring state security, flight radar suggested there's some Polish F-16s, some maybe stuff up.
jack posobiec
Yeah.
tony kinnett
Yeah, at least there's a sortie in the air and they're checking things out.
jack posobiec
And I think they closed the Zhezhov airport, which is the next largest airport, which is near today.
I don't know if we have a map up.
tim pool
I mean.
I mean, at this point, I'm going to go ahead and say, well, take it out with a grain of salt.
Sydney Morning Herald, as well as the Sun, are now confirming it.
NATO jets scrambled if Ukrainian Air Force is warning over Russian drones.
But just to clarify, Ukraine confirmed it and other outlets are saying NATO is scrambling.
So we don't know.
So I'll put it like this.
It appears confirmed that NATO is actually activating Air Force.
We don't know that Russia actually did this.
phil labonte
Yeah, these forces have been activated on Ukraine's word.
tim pool
I'm going to just go ahead and say, though, I think it's more likely that there's some legitimate intelligence that Russia has done this than there isn't.
I don't think NATO just willy-nilly says, what's that, Ukraine?
We'll take your word for it.
Launch the Air Force.
I think they've got actionable intelligence.
tony kinnett
It's such a weird time to do this because as we've seen in videos the last couple of days, and I know you've been sharing a lot of this, people in the Polish parliament have been beating their chest, burning the EU flag, wiping their muddy shoes with it.
I mean, this is when Poland is beating the most nationalist chest it has in a very long time.
And to do that kind of a, you know, what is it, three of these particular class of drones into Polish territory.
Again, I'm just saying from a distance and from individuals that I have sources in the region, it looks like people are coming to sweep in and investigate, but what a weird time to poke Poland.
phil labonte
I don't see any benefit for Russia to do that.
I mean, look, I'm not.
tony kinnett
Kolotsky's probably.
unidentified
What?
tony kinnett
Kolachkis?
Polish.
They're like a pastry, right?
phil labonte
I have any kind of, not that I have any kind of like inside knowledge or anything, but you know, it doesn't seem that like there's any upside for Russia to do this at all.
No, you know, they've got the attention of most of the Western world.
They don't want to get NATO involved in the Ukraine war at all because right now they're in a very good position in NATO.
You know, they, like Donald Trump likes to say, they're the ones holding all the cards.
So it doesn't make any sense to me, but I'm not.
tim pool
But you don't know.
We don't know the finer details of what Russia has to benefit from this.
On the surface, we just don't know.
jack posobiec
So, Tim, this is what I was going to say.
So, Zhezhov, the airport there, which is like the closest airport in southeastern Poland to the Ukrainian border, that is the key entry point of NATO armaments, weapons, ammunition going into Ukraine.
tony kinnett
Like holding the past kind of a situation?
jack posobiec
So, it's sort of like it basically, if you shut down that airport, you shut down the flow of NATO weapons to Ukraine.
Because that is the key hub of all.
So, every time, so I've been to Zhezhov twice this year, and every time I'm there, you just see, you know, Italian aircraft, cargo planes, U.S., Spain, you know, the thing, Netherlands, you know, whoever just happens to be there.
It's like all of NATO aircraft are there at that airport.
And it's, so you could, you could really shut down the supply lines.
Now, again, I'm not saying that's what this is, but I know that's an absolutely key hub because it's just across, it's the largest airport just across the border from Lviv.
tim pool
Well, I think it's important to point out that Vladimir Putin is just a one-dimensional comic book villain.
And he would do this while twirling his mustache simply because, and we should absolutely believe whatever it is Ukraine says because they're the good guys and they do everything right.
tony kinnett
We heard he did this while he was harvesting organs.
tim pool
Yeah.
jack posobiec
Was he polishing his monocle or is this after he polished his monocle?
unidentified
After.
Whoa.
tim pool
Yep.
Whoa.
And then his servant came in and gave him a new one on a pillow.
tony kinnett
By the way, I do want to point out that artificially messing with GPS to send drones in is literally the plot of the best Pierce Brosnan and James Bond movie.
unidentified
Is it?
libby emmons
How about that?
Okay.
tim pool
Well, I mean, look, if Russia wants to play, if this did happen and Russia actually is flying drones close enough to the Polish border, then they're.
jack posobiec
Which they have before.
tim pool
Right.
They're asking for trouble right away.
Because you don't even need to make the argument that Ukraine's going to use technology to do it.
The drones could just accidentally do it too close to the border.
And then Russia's got something, they got to answer for that.
So I don't want to be involved in these foreign wars.
I like when our Department of War is actually focused on our borders, our people.
Man, isn't that amazing?
libby emmons
Yeah, and it's been going well for us, I think.
tim pool
Indeed.
And so I would just say, Russia, back the F off from NATO countries.
Don't make the, like, there are anti-war people in the United States that don't want to be involved in whatever's going on.
And if Russia is playing fast and loose on NATO borders, it's going to force this country to get involved.
And I don't want that.
libby emmons
Yeah, and Trump doesn't want that.
Trump just wants this war to come to an end.
He doesn't want America dragged into it at all.
He's been working so hard on this.
And meanwhile, you have Putin and Zelensky who don't seem at all interested in bringing an end to this thing.
jack posobiec
It's also, by the way, and since we're throwing out the fog of war stuff, it's also entirely possible.
And this is why you really have to go to like high-fidelity radar and you really have to dig in on this stuff because it's entirely possible that drones never crossed into Poland and it was just a false reading and that it was an attack on the Ukrainian side.
And yet they got some reading that they were pinging on the Polish side.
But this is a very small area.
It's almost like talking about the border between like Maryland and West Virginia and Virginia, where they're all sort of compacted together in the Harpers Ferry area.
And oh my gosh, you know, something's here, something's there, but you're looking on signals.
These are prone to potential, you know, potential error.
And, you know, that's why that's why, by the way, you would send up an air task force because you want to get higher fidelity readings on whatever's up there.
And you can do that if you've got something, if you've got, you know, an AWAX craft or something up there that's actually tracking this in real time.
tony kinnett
I'm glad you mentioned that because this actually kind of ties into one of the reasons the United States has deployed F-35s to Puerto Rico.
F-35s are not just used in close air support and strike packages.
They are excellent reconnaissance vehicles.
jack posobiec
Oh, yeah.
tony kinnett
And so one of the reasons that I think it's quite nice that a U.S. Air Force bingo.
The multi-mission part of the craft is that it can fly in and say, hmm, I hear rumors of whatever.
The president is currently enjoying a delicious seafood dinner.
Let me see how real this is at the moment.
jack posobiec
Yeah.
You send a couple planes, send a couple birds up, you check it out.
tony kinnett
I'm not going to trust Keeve to tell me what's going on on the border.
jack posobiec
Yeah, we're obviously not going to be, and this is why George Washington talked about, you know, being wary of foreign entanglements.
This is how World War I started, where one alliance, one treaty triggers another treaty, triggers another treaty.
And so if we're going to be going down that path, let's, you know, let's figure out what's going on on our own before we start making calls to Vladimir Putin directly.
tim pool
While we're talking about war, let's jump to this story, which is actually pretty crazy.
And, you know, I got to be honest, it is rare that we start off a show with a story like this, but shocking radar footage shows Hellfire missile fired by U.S. military bounce off UFO over ocean.
libby emmons
Wait, what?
tim pool
Yeah, you see this?
I mean, Anna Paulina Luna.
unidentified
Every witness here, specifically ones that have sensor training or have been able to recognize some of this movements real quick.
So if you guys can please roll that real quick.
tim pool
So for those that are just listening, they're playing a video that appears to show a UFO.
libby emmons
Which one is the UFO?
phil labonte
In the center.
tim pool
In the center.
tony kinnett
It's being tracked.
libby emmons
In tracked thing.
tony kinnett
Yeah, they're tracked.
tim pool
They don't know what it is.
libby emmons
It looks like an amoeba.
tim pool
And a Hellfire missile bounces off of it.
libby emmons
And it went flying into bits.
jack posobiec
Did it bounce or did it hit behind me?
unidentified
Okay, while this is still rolling, Mr. Nusatelli, real quick, yes or no answers.
Are you aware of anything in the government, United States government arsenal that can split a Hellfire missile like this?
tim pool
So I think the Hellfire missile was what was being tracked.
And then the UFO rammed through it and split in half.
unidentified
Do whatever block thing it did and then keep going.
Nothing?
Nothing.
All right.
How about you, Chief Wigan?
Wiggins?
Nothing to my knowledge, ma'am.
Okay, and how about you, Mr. Borland?
I'd prefer to answer that in a skiff.
jack posobiec
Chief Wigan.
unidentified
Whoa.
Okay.
tim pool
I'd prefer to answer that in a skiff.
Wow.
Rep Ana Paulina Luna says in today's UAP hearing, we revealed new military surveillance video showing a UAP splitting a Hellfire missile in mid-air.
Not a single witness was aware of any U.S. military technology capable of defeat.
Every witness described the footage as extremely scary.
This is pretty wild.
I don't really know how we is this U.S. weapons technology that they're keeping under wraps are not telling us about.
They're just lying.
jack posobiec
So, I mean, high probability of that, honestly.
And that's why he says, that's kind of my general understanding of all this UAP stuff.
It's that, you know, we've got tech that we don't want the foreign adversaries to know that it's out there.
But at the same time, they've got similar tech that they're using to target.
And that's why this stuff is always involved in military.
It's why it's always around like Air Force, military placements.
You know, if it was actually some kind of, I don't know, extra-terrestrial or interdimensional activity.
Angels or demons?
Why would angels or demons be around military bases all the time?
Whereas the more simple answer is that it's just a counterintelligence operation and these are some type of technology that just hasn't been made public yet.
And why?
Because we have it too.
tony kinnett
Well, also, we don't just cover up things that maybe we have kind of hidden under the pocket.
Also, if the device malfunctioned, and I'm just going to say from my humble position that something clearly went wrong with that AGM, that particular missile didn't explode.
It looks like the package that it was carrying didn't go off.
And I'm certainly not going to watch some officer tell a congressperson in front of the cameras, hey, here's why our missile didn't go off.
In case anyone out there is listening wondering how to shut off strike packages so it I mean if something hits at a high velocity, it's still going to fracture and cause damage, but the explosive package in the missile not going off.
I don't want other people knowing that our missiles ever malfunction ever.
They always work forever.
No more questions.
jack posobiec
The warhead on a Hellfire missile is small.
I mean, you're talking like football.
I mean, they're not, this isn't a cruise missile.
This isn't a, you know, this isn't like an, you know, anti-air-to-air missile or something like that.
They're typically, they're much smaller.
Now, they're powerful and they are fiery, and that is kind of the point.
It's supposed to melt through.
tim pool
I hear a lot of excuses trying real hard.
I'm just going to say an alien.
This proves aliens exist.
No, I agree with you, Jack.
jack posobiec
There's some kind of malfunction.
tim pool
There was a funny story from like a year ago where they released this UAP footage, and it was like, you know, pilots at the Air Force Base had witnessed these strange objects.
And then later down at the bottom of the story, it mentioned that they were 70 miles from an advanced research naval facility.
And I was like, why are you wasting our time?
We get it.
jack posobiec
Well, and the way the government is constructed in terms of compartmentalization is that depending on how far down the rabbit hole you go, those compartments are.
I don't even know if there's anyone who knows how many compartments there are in the government in terms of these special access programs.
And so you could have a special access program that only three people know about or like really know all the details of.
So when you get a guy that you've pulled up and they say, well, I don't know anything about that.
He doesn't know anything about that because he's not in that compartment.
That's in a different compartment from where it works.
And, you know, I'm not saying a technology would be in that category, but certainly advanced, you know, advanced research, advanced projects would absolutely be something that you would keep in a separate track.
And so you can have someone say under oath and completely truthfully and nothing against it, but it's just that it's just, that's the way the government works.
That's the nature of the beast.
tim pool
Yeah, I think a lot of people would just rather believe in aliens because it makes life less boring.
The idea that there's a grander story.
jack posobiec
I'm not against the belief at all.
I'm totally open to it.
I just, I just really don't think that's what this is.
tony kinnett
It's also kind of really hard for people to understand that a lot of crap that is supposedly military grade, that's not a compliment anymore.
jack posobiec
No.
tony kinnett
No, and it just so happens that a lot of stuff fails quite consistently.
And that doesn't always fit with the everyone all the time is super duper malicious because, you know, there's a lot of goobers that happen to put together designs.
And I'm sorry to the folks over at Northrop Grunman and my 18 shots to the back of the head suicide later this week, but sometimes they put out, you know, well, that sucks.
tim pool
Who was that astronaut?
I don't know if it was Balls Alder.
And they said, what was the last thing that went through your mind before you launched the Apollo mission?
And they said that the ship was built by the lowest bidder.
jack posobiec
Yeah.
tim pool
That's how government works.
jack posobiec
It is.
tim pool
It's so good.
libby emmons
Well, in a lot of places, in some places, that's the law.
Like, it has to be built by the lowest bidder.
tim pool
That's insane.
libby emmons
In New York City, you have to take the lowest bidder.
And then what happens is the lowest bidder sucks because they have no experience.
And then they keep slapping you with change orders so that by the time that they're done, it's way more expensive than if you just went with the experienced higher cost.
jack posobiec
The whole system is a problem.
And, you know, as much as I support everything that we see from Secretary Hegset, Secretary of War, SecWar, Hegset, and Alex SecWar and War Department, at least in spoken English.
But at the same time, I mean, this stuff is, in many cases, it's so deep and it's so incestuous and it's so bureaucratic because we fought the Soviet Union for so long, we became like a gay version of the Soviet Union, and where we just have bureaucracy on top of bureaucracy,
on top of bureaucracy for its own sake, not just in the military, it's just an obvious example of it where the purpose of why we do these things is almost completely disconnected from the actual mission and action and actions being taken.
tim pool
Looks like we have some, I don't know how open source intel, I don't know how trustworthy this is, fan raising ideas, but they're saying that Warsaw Chopin Airport in Poland has been closed due to unplanned military activity with another update from Knight OSINT.
Poland has closed Warsaw International Airport and Lublin Airport, issuing no TAMs due to unplanned military activity related to ensuring state security.
The closure of Polish airspace comes following reports of Russian drones entering Poland this evening or aliens.
jack posobiec
The Hellfire aliens have crossed over.
tony kinnett
I think they've crossed over Poland in half.
jack posobiec
Pretending.
Wouldn't be the first time.
tony kinnett
Hopefully.
unidentified
Saying that president in Polak.
jack posobiec
It wouldn't be the first partition of Poland.
This side will be controlled by the Romulans, of course.
The other side will be controlled by the Vulcans.
Well, the Vulcans are the mediators.
tim pool
Well, no, the Vulcans control one side.
And then all those on the Romulan-controlled side are trying to flee to the Vulcan-controlled territories but get gunned down before they get a chance.
jack posobiec
By the Kardashians.
tim pool
By the Kardashians.
tony kinnett
Of course.
tim pool
I'm having a stroke, I'm sure of it.
The funniest thing about the Stars of the Next Generation is that there's an alien race called the Kardassians, and they're, you know, militaristic.
jack posobiec
They're the Kardashian.
tim pool
Right.
You're not shh.
You know what I mean?
So when you say that Patrick Stewart was mercilessly tortured by the Kardashians, I mean, Cardassians, that's just where we're at.
So interesting, it does look like at least the belief is, as far as NATO is concerned, that it was Russia.
tony kinnett
We've got U.S. senators chiming in on it.
Old Senator Dick Durbin's issued a statement.
Repeated violations of NATO airspace by Russian drones are a fair warning that Vlad Putin is testing our resolve to protect Poland and the Baltic nations after the carnage.
tim pool
This is just really that.
It's called a slush.
tony kinnett
I love it.
It's fantastic.
After the carnage, Putin continues to visit on Ukraine.
These incursions can't be ignored.
Dick Durbin's not ignoring it, guys.
care it's just illinois is uh you have a bad reputation Yeah, where we in Indiana hate it.
We try to smuggle guns into it and they won't let us.
libby emmons
That's part of your thing.
It's like an Illinois.
tony kinnett
I would conquer Illinois and push Chicago into Lake Michigan tomorrow if they'd let me.
tim pool
Boy shit.
Yeah, it's over Lake Michigan as it is.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah.
tony kinnett
It's built over the sea level.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
tony kinnett
Just like Patrick, push it right in.
tim pool
They lifted up the whole city, and that's what you get.
jack posobiec
But let's move on to- I'm still not seeing any actual confirmation of drones.
libby emmons
The thing is, though, nobody's life would change if there were aliens, unless aliens came down and they were like, we're part of your life now.
jack posobiec
Well, unless the aliens were in charge of the U.S. government.
unidentified
Well, yeah, but it still wouldn't change much if Rowdy Roddy Piper told me that if I put on the sunglasses.
libby emmons
I remember.
tim pool
Actually, no, he resisted.
It was the other dude.
libby emmons
Yeah.
jack posobiec
It was.
tim pool
He didn't want to put the glasses.
Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I'm wrong.
libby emmons
He forced me.
tim pool
He forced me to go.
Rowdy Roddy Piper, I'm wrong.
Yeah, he put them on, saw it, and was like, what?
And then the other guy was like, I ain't wearing your glasses.
jack posobiec
Then he ran out of bubblegum.
tim pool
Yes.
I'm here to kick casts and chew bubblegum.
All right, guys.
I know you want to laugh and have fun and joke around, but this next story is not conducive to that.
From the New York Post.
Ukrainian refugee Irina Zarutska's look of horror after she was fatally stabbed on the train as her final moments are revealed.
I'm not going to play the video, guys, here on the show.
It is available on the New York Post.
It's available all over X.
The moment of the stabbing is viewable.
The whole video in its entirety is extremely graphic.
But there is a lot to talk about in the aftermath of this incident, as well as the video's full release.
So the first thing I'm going to say is with this video's release, you see almost right away, there's a few things I want to say.
This evil psychopath, he stabs her at appears three times, just rapidly, boom, boom, boom.
This poor young woman doesn't even know she was stabbed.
She's looking around and she looks up in horror.
What people don't realize is that when you get stabbed, it just feels like you got punched.
And if, you know, people watch movies and in movies, the hero will go bang with a gun and the guy just falls to the ground.
jack posobiec
Or flies across the, you know.
tim pool
And then not only that, in movies, the hero will punch the guy one time and he'll just go on the ground and land the ground forever.
None of that happens.
This poor young woman got stabbed and she doesn't know.
And I'll tell you what's really, really terrifying is then within about 10 or 15 seconds, she collapses and there's a pool of blood on the chair.
Now, people have immediately started criticizing the bystanders, the passengers, for not helping.
I'm not going to do that to an extent.
When the man got up and stabbed her several times in the video, no one knew what happened.
He got up and it looked like he was just punching her.
And if you're sitting next to her behind, it's just a crazy guy who hit her and she looked fine.
libby emmons
For a second.
tim pool
Yes, for about 15, 20 seconds.
She then collapses.
And this is where I have concern.
phil labonte
It was a full minute and a half before anyone.
tim pool
Before anyone, she collapsed on the ground and blood is pooling.
And then there's a guy just standing staring at her.
Now, the sad reality is, guys, I know a lot of people want to blame the bystander saying they're gawkers doing nothing.
I don't think they knew what to do.
jack posobiec
But even then, the only thing I would push back on a little bit is, and you're right, because the size of the pocket knife, as small as it was, it's very hard to tell in this video that he was carrying a knife.
This was not like some big bowie knife or a machete or something.
It's small.
But even if they didn't know she was stabbed, from their perspective, he at least attacked her.
So you don't see anyone on or in that car with her say, hey, are you okay?
Just a very simple, hey, are you okay?
But he says it.
tim pool
But I half agree.
You're sitting there, you're looking out the window.
This is what the average person is doing.
They're not really paying attention.
And within a split second, he goes wham, wham, wham into her.
And then you look over, it's already done.
You don't know what happened.
And so that's why I half agree.
Like, if I were there, I have a bit better situation awareness than everyone in this room probably does.
And that's my criticism, not on the individuals, but on our culture that has made soft, ignorant, and unaware individuals who are not paying attention to their surroundings, where this attack could happen.
And they're just like, I have no idea what's going on.
tony kinnett
Well, it's not that they just had they had no idea what was going on because I'm going to make the case that the guy in the gray hoodie and the black pants that immediately after the stabber walks away muttering.
We know from footage, he's muttering.
You can hear that.
tim pool
The guy got the white girl.
Right.
tony kinnett
The guy with earbuds will say he can't hear anything, but he was definitely in line of sight to see it.
This man gets up and just walks out right after, head down, like, I ain't got time for this.
He's going to leave.
So he knows something happened.
He chose what he doesn't want is to wait for the police to show up and start asking questions.
tim pool
I want to stress this for those.
If we can pull up this news article, the image you see with Irina Zarutska right here with her hand over her mouth, this is after she had already been stabbed.
And what I think a lot of people don't realize, this photo is not graphic.
unidentified
There's no problem.
jack posobiec
She has been fatally stabbed.
tim pool
She has been fatally stabbed several times.
And if you showed this photo to someone and said this is a bust, they'd be like, okay.
Right.
No one looks at this photo and goes, oh my God, look at this photo.
People don't understand.
Now, what I will say another thing: I don't think the reason why I'm upset people didn't intervene and stop the guy is actually because they didn't know he had a knife.
If somebody is brandishing a knife, I am not surprised no one will intervene.
It is not like the movies where the guy with the knife swings at you, you grab his arm and flip him over.
That doesn't happen.
libby emmons
No, but nobody says anything on the subway.
I mean, I've been on the subway multiple times and been harassed by homeless people or crazy people and stuff.
And the people on the subway around you, they just look away because they're just glad that you're the one that's being targeted and not them.
I mean, I've had it's dangerous.
It feels really scary.
I've been cornered by people.
tim pool
What I'm saying is.
libby emmons
And nobody comes to help you no matter what.
tim pool
Right.
If the guy helps me.
libby emmons
Unless there's Daniel Penny.
jack posobiec
Yeah.
libby emmons
Or like old women.
tim pool
If the guy was holding a 12-inch buck knife, I'd be like, I am not surprised.
Everyone backed off.
But my point is, no one knew he had a knife.
You'd expect them to actually stop him.
jack posobiec
Can we show that other picture where she's like where she's actually looking at him?
tim pool
You've got it up here.
I don't know where in the video.
You can see it.
phil labonte
And that's after she's been stabbed.
jack posobiec
She's been stabbed.
And that's, I mean, that image, if we lived in a serious country, that image would be on the front page of every single newspaper tomorrow.
It would be pushed on every social media platform.
I mean, it's beyond her being girls.
unidentified
Yeah.
jack posobiec
Ukrainian.
It is beyond her being.
tim pool
She's a Ukrainian refugee.
Every Democrat should have been like, what is going on?
unidentified
Okay.
jack posobiec
But we have to go to war because potentially some drones crossed in from Ukraine.
We have to go to World War III.
But when it actually Zelensky hasn't said anything about her, Zelensky hasn't said a single word.
I've not been able to talk about it.
libby emmons
One of his citizens.
jack posobiec
That's one of his citizens who's been killed.
libby emmons
Who's been forced out of the country because of this war?
jack posobiec
Well, and you know what's crazy is we had my wife, who's from Belarus, originally here on the show on Human Events earlier today.
And she said that one of the pieces that, because she's been talking about that, this with her mom's group for weeks and just said, why isn't this going prior to this?
Why isn't why is nobody talking about it?
tim pool
We actually have a larger video.
unidentified
The photo is actually a little bit more.
jack posobiec
You know, the father, speaking, this going back to the war, her father, so he was actually buried on, I think, August 27th.
And so this, this is a while ago.
So it took a while for this to come out.
libby emmons
It's 22nd.
jack posobiec
Because right, because the videos haven't come out yet.
And she was saying that her own father wasn't able to come to the funeral because of martial law in Ukraine and military-age men can't come.
I said, well, wait a minute.
She was 23.
How old's the dad in his 50s?
tim pool
So I have a question for you guys because there's been a lot of criticism online of her for two reasons.
jack posobiec
Excuse me?
tim pool
Yes, that's right.
She's seen in a photo in a room with a BLM poster.
Now, fact checkers say it's not her bedroom.
It's another friend or family members.
And the argument that people are putting forward is she is still in this political space that has allowed for and encouraged this behavior.
I think that's ridiculous.
I mean, liberal.
jack posobiec
So she should die?
tim pool
It's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous.
Because my argument is this.
Literally every day conservatives are begging liberals not to hurt themselves.
They're like desperately telling them not to get abortions or sterilize their kids, trying to help them live better.
The argument that because she has a BLM poster in her bedroom is the antithesis of what conservatives or the right has been arguing the whole time, which is we know you're wrong.
We're trying to help you be right so you don't get hurt.
tony kinnett
But it's that particular argument, which is why from my perspective, I completely throw all of the blame on all of the individuals on that car who watched.
According to the photos, we see they watched.
They watched that happen.
There's reports that the blood was dripping off of the knife as soon as he pulled it out of her and starts walking away.
No one goes to her at all, but this is the same crew.
I guarantee you did a little NBC poll, little panel said, how many of you would help someone if there was a fire?
They think they're all heroes.
They think they're wonderful because they affirm all of this garbage.
And yet they wouldn't come to the aid of anyone.
tim pool
Now, there's another area of criticism.
And that is in the, there's another camera angle, which is the, I guess it's the wider view where you can see her on the left.
And people are pointing out there are empty seats with the back to the window around the door that if she had walked in paying attention and sat away from this man.
libby emmons
Right, but there's, but there's a lot of, you know, I know from New York subways and on New York subways, you don't want to sit by the door because people when you stop, yeah, people come in the door, steal from you, and then go running.
So you tend to want to sit in, you know, seats that are further back.
tim pool
I guess.
libby emmons
Now, this guy, maybe he didn't look crazy to her.
Maybe he was just sitting there quietly or whatever before this all happened.
And so she sat down.
You know, you tend not to want to sit near people who are crazy, but we don't know what was happening right before.
jack posobiec
So, so, well, actually, we do.
There is a longer video where he's just sitting there.
She's just sitting there and she comes in and she sits down.
You know, something else that Tanya had mentioned, my wife, who is from Eastern Europe, had mentioned, was that when you're a new immigrant to the United States, especially from Eastern Europe, you don't know all of these sort of rules and cues that America has because it's just completely foreign to you.
But what's something that's not foreign is riding the train?
Because in Eastern Europe, everybody rides the train.
Ukraine, Belarus, Russia, it is Poland.
It is just very accessible.
It's very easy.
And most people don't even drive if they live in a big city.
And crime like this just doesn't exist.
It is not something you've ever encountered before in your life.
So you wouldn't even, you're talking about situational awareness.
She comes from a place where you don't need that.
tim pool
And she assumed she was safe.
And why assume otherwise?
jack posobiec
She's on her phone.
libby emmons
In Charlotte, North Carolina.
I mean, I would assume I was safe in Charlotte, North Carolina.
tim pool
The commentary.
libby emmons
I've never been there.
So what do I know?
tim pool
The posts, people are pointing out that, you know, so Brian Seltra, I'm sure you guys saw, he said, oh, the racism, the racism.
libby emmons
Yeah, he was calling it racist.
He was saying that it was like politically motivated rhetoric talking about all of this.
tim pool
There were posts where people were saying things like back in the day, if you saw, if you're walking down the street and a black person, a woman walking down the street and there's a black person towards her, she'd move her purse to the other side or she'd cross the street.
But then after in the past 10 years, racists would do that.
Exactly.
In the past 10 years, the BLM narrative mocked women who would move the purse to the side or cross the street.
And I'm going to be honest, like, it's pretty brutal to like, just because you're a black guy, people are like, I don't trust you.
That's a brutal way to live.
But the point I'm making is that the rhetoric on X that I'm assuming this is what Brian Sutter is talking about.
I wouldn't call it the most racist thing in the world, is people saying if she held that distrust, she'd be alive.
And so what do you tell people when you see stories like this and you look at the crime data that was on Fox News just the other day that Grok even confirmed that I posted from ChatGPT that interracial violence, black on white, is 26 times higher than white on black?
My point is not to tell people, literally, we don't want racism.
We need to address the existing racism.
And if this guy, it appears he says, I got that white girl, then I'll just put it like this.
I was talking to Viva Fry earlier, and he said, you've got a guy who's clearly crazy.
He's been in out of jail and he's been inundated with the message for 10 years that white people are evil.
This is the racism.
And then we'd advance confidence from there.
We'll talk about the Charlie Kirk Van Jones thing in a second.
libby emmons
It really reminded me of this old play by Amiri Baraka, who was Leroy Jones until he changed his name, this playwright out of Newark.
And he wrote a play called Dutchman.
think it was in the 70s and it was a play about yeah well you'll understand you'll you'll recognize it So it takes place on a New York City subway, and it's a black guy riding the subway, and a white girl gets on, and she's sort of like vaguely flirting with him.
And the way that it's set up, you think that something bad is going to happen to her from this guy, but then she, does she stab him to death or shoot him to death?
She kills him.
And so the idea is, you know, don't trust your impulses.
Don't trust the thing that you know.
You're probably just racist.
tim pool
Let me pull the story from the postmillennial.
CNN's Van Jones rails against Charlie Kirk for suggesting the murder of Arena Zarutzka was racially motivated.
The killer said, I got that white girl after stabbing her to death.
This is one of the most shockingly offensive things I've heard.
Listen, I want to be there.
abby phillip
And it's going to be there.
When you are mentally ill, you have a hard time knowing that you are mentally ill.
But also, I mean, people like Charlie Kirk van, they've been looking for opportunities to make this some sort of like reciprocal George Floyd situation.
And that's the part that I think he's almost giving away the game.
And it saddens me.
tim pool
I just, you know, I'm really offended about this.
Charlie Kirk, not Tim Poole, Phil, Jack Masovic.
Like, come on, we've all been talking about it.
I'm kidding.
abby phillip
A lot of people going along with it.
van jones
You know, let me just say a couple of things.
One is, I mean, what happened to that young woman was horrible.
And it's everybody's nightmare.
If you're in any public space, a subway, whatever, that something bad's going to happen to you or somebody you care about.
So it does strike a chord.
We don't know why that man did what he did.
jack posobiec
Yes, you do.
van jones
We know he did it because she's white when there's no evidence that that's just pure race.
tim pool
Charlie was right.
van jones
Racemongering, hate mongering.
It's wrong.
Then he says that if something like that had happened the other way, there would be sweeping changes imposed on society.
Where is the George Floyd Policing Act?
tim pool
Did you see what he just did there?
I'll tell you, it's where half of the police departments in this country were defunded to a certain extent.
libby emmons
And so he made it federal, but it's not about federal.
It's all of these local departments all over the country that were defunded and the police morale was destroyed.
tim pool
And the billions of dollars in damages.
jack posobiec
Self-selecting out of the Charlie Kirk obviously didn't say anything wrong, but oh, Van Jones, let's be skeptical.
Where was that energy for George Floyd, Van Jones, and Abby Phillips?
Where was that energy of, hey, this is one situation and we need to investigate and we need an autopsy on what exactly was in his bloodstream and whether or not he had a heart tumor?
Or are we just going to brand all cops as racist?
tim pool
Or how about this?
Derek Chauvin arrived on scene and George Floyd was already on the ground.
So by all means, you can say that Derek Chauvin should have was negligent.
He should have checked on him.
They should have got rendered aid much more quickly.
It is not a story of a white supremacist cop who grabbed George Floyd, threw him on the ground, and then kneeled down.
jack posobiec
Who's half the size of George Floyd, by the way?
tim pool
It's the story of a cop who showed up on scene after everything was already going on and saying, what's going on?
And they're like, he's resisting, including cops who are not white.
Indeed.
And then he engaged in the Neil.
He knelt on George Floyd to hold him in submission.
And again, by all means, make the argument that he was negligent.
But where was there ever a racial component that people like Van Jones, CNN, and all the corporate press pushed for, which resulted in mass rioting, the worst riots you've seen in decades?
tony kinnett
Obviously, but here's the cash.
Here's what you guys are missing.
That every time after one of these events occur, what you get is some guy like Van Jones that shows up dressed all nice and fine and looking like anyone else who goes on network television and they start lecturing you in that soft Montel Williams voice that really the United States is really awful and terrible and homeless people are twice as likely to be the victim of violence as the mayor of Charlotte said and when someone looks like a thug and acts like a thug that's not the person who comes to lecture you they are the racial equivalent of ambulance chasers
phil labonte
yes the whole point is they make money calling white people racists saying that black people are oppressed it's been going on and it's all bs it is all garbage it's been going on since ferguson since michael brown with the whole hands up don't shoot that was a lie since oj trayvon martin stuff that was a lie they made it out as if zimmerman was a white guy he wasn't a white guy that was a lie the stuff with george floyd that was a
lie and this has been an absolutely destructive force in the united states for over a decade and we continue to tolerate it and it is imbecilic that we allow people like the judge that let this guy free who didn't have a law degree by the way yeah we have that's oh she owns a charity called second this is the idiocy that we continue to allow this stuff the fact that perry was arrested is ridiculous all the people in new york
city and all the penny yeah but but he's right about perry too yes oh hang on though don't forget no but those people the people in the government in new york that actually did that they should lose their jobs there has to be there has to be repercussions for the people that are empowering this those judges the da's they have to lose their job possibly we have to change the law so that way if you do let a murderer free and he goes on to commit a crime you share
tim pool
in legal responsibility and you go to jail that will stop this stuff we can't do that why not you can't well because we have to change the law we can't do that i understand because that would result in literally everyone going to prison all the time yeah because there's a i'm gonna be like a high rate of recidivism yeah he's gonna say literally every time just if they're violent criminals put them in jail oh violent criminals how many strikes but the point the point is and he was still out obviously three strikes and you're out is fine but if you made the argument that a judge would be responsible
for releasing somebody i guess then i said it's fine let's see too you catch peace he's going to be like, then I defer to not releasing anybody because I don't want responsibility.
unidentified
But the thing, too, that I thought was pretty crazy is you had to do it.
phil labonte
So listen, so then give us a little bit of a message.
tim pool
So then we had real judges, real judges that actually did their jobs, that took it seriously, and we as a society held people accountable the way we used to, which is social pressure, shunning, ostracizing bad people, removing them from office.
phil labonte
This is a society.
tim pool
When we make special rules, like when we get to Christianity, when we get to the point where we need the National Guard in Chicago, and I agree we do as someone from Chicago, we are in a very, very bad place.
Again, when we get to the point where we're saying judges need to be held accountable for releasing criminals, we are already rid of you.
phil labonte
The point that I'm making is get rid of qualified immunity for police officers and get rid of qualified immunity.
libby emmons
But now you sound like a leftist about the qualified immunity for police officers.
You need qualified immune police officers so they can do their arrests.
tim pool
Okay, listen, I'm not a fan of qualified immunity, but understand the math.
If a cop is told, I face criminal liability or civil liability, if I make an arrest, he won't do it.
But when the criminal is brandishing the knife and he's going to be like, look, I don't want to get sued.
I'm backing off.
tony kinnett
No, but he also knows that at the end of the day, the worst he can get is a federally tax-funded timeout.
The problem in this country is that we always talk about, oh man, we used to throw people in jail.
We also used to have corporal punishment.
Delaware is the last state that allows corporal punishment on the books.
And there was a chance that you would end up at the end of a noose or the lash for things like drunk driving.
Those are things that last.
A federally funded timeout is not going to solve anything.
tim pool
I agree, and I've made this point before, somewhat facetiously, that if in Chicago, the penalty for this gang violence was they would, and it's meant to sound silly, but if you took these young men who are shooting each other up and said, when you get caught, we're going to put you in a diaper, a baby bonnet with a pacifier, and you've got to crawl straight down Roosevelt Avenue 10 miles while everyone films and posts it online, it would end the crime overnight.
jack posobiec
So there's another aspect to this too.
And everyone's bringing up, you know, it's great discussion, but I think part of this too is, and Libby, you were getting at this, it's the stories we tell that start to shape the way that we think about policy because the stories that we tell about our world are the way shape the way we think about the world and then think about how to fix the problems of the world.
And one story that we tell or have been telling for decades now is this complete lie that there is some kind of racial conspiracy to create a figment of black crime in America when in reality, and you can see the statistics, you can see the data, that unfortunately we have a problem of mass violence against white people in this country that has gone completely unchecked and in some cases encouraged.
And in every single case, you have people like Van Jones going on TV and making excuses for it.
And it's disgusting.
It is open season on white people in this country.
It has been since the knockout game.
It has been since White Girl Bleed a Lot.
And now you have the exact same things going on and on.
And they used to say, they used to say that when you put body cams out, that that would catch police brutality.
tony kinnett
How'd that work out?
unidentified
And now they're trying, I got a body cam, but I got to push back, Jack.
tim pool
It's not fair to say that only white people are victims.
The stop Asian hate, the leftists dropped that hashtag when they realized it was.
jack posobiec
Where did that go?
tim pool
It was black people attacking Asians.
And the knockout game in New York was predominantly black people attacking Jews.
libby emmons
Right.
You also, I mean, I'm not trying to say that.
We also saw them as white.
We also saw a young black woman.
tim pool
Well, they were the Hascidic Jews with the big hats.
libby emmons
And thrown off a bridge in Annapolis, right?
We saw that today, too.
That was a young black girl who was murdered by an illegal immigrant.
But you guys are in Maryland.
And we also saw an Alabama former veterinary professor who was murdered on a jogging trail while she was walking her dog.
And we also, the thing too, is that this mayor in Charlotte, this Vi Lyles, she was saying that we can't arrest our way out of a mental health crisis.
We can't arrest our way out of homelessness.
And I think too much has been pinned on this mental health.
Yeah, of course we can.
And too much has been pinned on this idea that if someone is committing crimes, they have a mental health issue and we need to have compassion for them and their mental health issue.
This guy was supposed to get a psych evaluation after he called 911 earlier this year and was arrested for wasting 911 resources because he said there was something man-made in his body that was controlling him.
And he was arrested.
They let him go, no cash bail.
And he was supposed to get a psych evaluation that never happened.
And now you have the mayor basically an apologist for this lunatic who should have stayed locked up, right?
In 2020, when he was released, he assaulted his sister.
jack posobiec
There's a scene in The Joker, not Joker 2, which doesn't exist, but in the Good Joker film, where, do you remember, I think he's going to visit his mom in the mental institution?
Is that right?
And he's visiting there and he goes down.
This gets back to the bureaucracy thing that Phil and I were just talking about, where he goes in and he's talking to the receptionist at the mental facility.
And he kind of realizes that something's going wrong with him.
It's before he like dons the full Joker attire.
And he says, how do I get into one of these places?
And the receptionist there is like, you know, I don't know.
Like, I don't even know how you would get in because, and, and that to me, I thought that that resonated.
Uh, my dad used to work in a mental institution for almost 30 years.
And I remember in the 90s when they were shutting everything down asking him, well, dad, where are they going to put all the crazy people?
And he said, well, they call it graduating.
They just call it graduating.
And they just, they just, they're out.
tim pool
I want to pull up this video.
It's gone viral.
I believe it's from someone by the name of Miranda Jewell.
That's what it says in the video, but I just want to play it for you and then we'll talk about it.
miranda jewel
I don't even know what to say at this point.
I had to get off the train past my stop because there was a guy who was following me from car to car.
And when I tried to get off at my stop, which was pitch dark, he held it open to see if I was going to get off.
So I had to get off the stop after.
And then when I got off the stop after, I hopped on the next train that was going the other direction.
And I got on an express train.
unidentified
And now I'm back on the other side of the track hold on.
miranda jewel
New York City is not safe.
It's not safe for women.
Okay.
I am so sick and tired of having to look over my shoulder 24-7, not just at night, during the day, at all hours.
I'm sick and tired of it.
tim pool
Who do you think she voted for?
libby emmons
Oh, I'm sure she voted for Mom Donnie, right?
tim pool
There is a 75% chance she votes liberal.
And I'm not trying to disparate Gerald Clinton.
That here's what she's doing.
But women around her age, you know, key demo age in New York, some 70, I think it's 80 or 90 actually percent female vote for the Democratic candidates who then appoint a police chief who says soft on crime.
And then they vote in, they appoint judges, soft on crime.
So she is arguing for, and it's not about her as an individual, but this is what people in New York voted for.
jack posobiec
And this is, a lot of this is leading to this, what I call the rise of the urban right.
libby emmons
And which we need more of that.
jack posobiec
This is, this is a different pipeline, a different path from the rural right, which most people, everyone knows the rural right.
Everyone gets that.
We're conserving our small towns.
We're conserving our culture.
We, you know, we care about the farms.
We need, everybody gets it.
Everybody loves it.
Cowboy hats, pickup trucks, everybody gets that.
That's the sort of stereotypical Republican viewpoint.
The urban right is a little bit different.
The urban right is way more radical.
The urban right is a reactionary force because you're reacting to your home and your livelihood that's been stolen in front of your own eyes.
And there's so many people now in the new right that are actually part of this urban right, including, by the way, Donald Trump himself, a Fifth Avenue billionaire who came down a golden escalator and was talking about this stuff has gotten completely out of control.
People forget, by the way, that when he announced he was running for president, it was right.
I think it was right in the middle or right after the Freddie Gray riots in Baltimore that were going on at the time where he's actually said publicly that Melania Trump watching those riots and watching Baltimore just be burned.
I was there.
was watching it be burned to the ground.
It's one of my first live stream riots, yay.
That she said to Trump, she said, you have to do it.
This is your time.
And so the urban right is this, you come to politics from a completely different perspective than the rural right.
Your focus is going to be different.
And you think about it, right?
Stephen Miller, where is he from?
Santa Monica.
libby emmons
Right.
unidentified
Right.
jack posobiec
He's, he's not from, bless you, he's not from a place that is normally associated with the left.
libby emmons
Neither am I.
unidentified
I mean, I grew up in the city area.
libby emmons
I think it's in New York.
And it's like.
jack posobiec
Jim, you're a Chicago guy.
libby emmons
You know, none of that's, none of that's what I'm, I was raised to be an abortion-loving liberal.
And there, you know, first of all, they showed us the video of an abortion when I was in eighth grade in CCD.
And so I was never, never pro-choice ever.
But thank you, Catholic Church.
But these cities are also being really damaged by left-wing foundations.
Like the MacArthur Foundation gave $3.3 million to the county that Charlotte is in, Mecklenburg County, to reduce their jail population.
And you have Mom Donnie now in New York saying that he wants to reduce the population of Rikers Island.
tony kinnett
100 days is too long to be in Rikers.
Didn't mention the type of crime that would be committed.
libby emmons
And he didn't mention what's going on with their trials.
I mean, you know, it's not too long if you're actually going through the justice system.
And these justice systems, like, does it take a while to get a trial?
Yeah.
Would it be better if we had faster trials?
Sure, because then we could get you into maximum security festivals.
jack posobiec
But so this is why it pushes people into the urban right because you're someone who's not, you're not anti-city, right?
libby emmons
No, I love cities.
jack posobiec
Because you view cities as the beating heart of culture.
This is where our economy runs.
This is where all new culture comes out of.
This is the height of civilization.
libby emmons
Music, restaurants, all of it.
jack posobiec
It's the city.
President Trump is out now showcasing how safe Washington, D.C. is by going out for seafood right around the corner from the White House.
And so if you're a member of the urban right, which I've started talking about this publicly a couple of weeks ago, I've sort of had it rattling around for a while.
I've discussed it with a few folks that are currently serving in our government and doing a fantastic job of it.
And I found it resonates a lot with a lot of people because you just come to conservatism through a very different path because you've seen your towns and your neighborhoods destroyed and you've seen it turned over to crime.
You've seen it turned over to violence, to migrants, both legal and illegal, these massive demographic shifts that we've been seeing.
And you're like, I just want my home back.
Who do I vote for to get that?
tony kinnett
Well, I mean, it's all come from, so the from the rural conservative, kind of the more classic from eastern central Indiana.
What we see in common with a lot of the urban right all comes down to the revivification of the traditional man, masculinity, this feminization that brought in socialism in this country by making you feel bad.
unidentified
There are people who are poor who you need to give your money to.
tony kinnett
And then over the racism issue, well, there are people who are black and you need to give your money to them.
And then the LGBTQ, there are people who are gay.
You got to give them money.
Additionally, additionally, that kind of hyper-feminization has driven people in urban centers where college-educated white women are most likely to find their happy place.
That's where families kind of circled around during the 70s through the 90s.
Well, now people are tired of it because they've seen the effect of a fatherlessness across every community in this country.
The traditional man actually coming back is going to be a core part of the right in the next 30 years.
That's why Vance and Trump, urban and rural right, are so alike in kind of their family-orient policy prescriptions.
jack posobiec
Yeah, or you know, the man of today is the guy who's too scared to stand up to a tiny woman who's yelling at him.
unidentified
Does the baseball thing?
jack posobiec
He does the arm thing even before he realizes who it is.
That's his initial response.
There's a very, I mean, I don't know if that guy's got a touch of something or what, but he doesn't seem to.
And he just seems very scared, very scared of his skin.
And, you know, that's the man.
That's the modern American male, a ma'am.
That is the modern, the modern American male is terrified to stand up to a woman.
And that is a great microcosm of how we lost our great cities, how we lost our culture, the decline of the West, because we're terrible.
Oh, I just wanted to go away.
I just wanted to stop.
So you take the ball from your child.
tim pool
On his birthday.
jack posobiec
On his birthday, the home run ball.
What greater ball?
And you watch the video of this.
I'm like, do people not have kids?
You know, my son would not care if I'm giving him money, if I'm saying, hey, I'm going to get better tickets.
He wants the home run ball.
And it's like, Dad, why did you take the ball from me?
You know, would you ever do that?
tim pool
What, you know what song you sing to this lady when you're at a baseball game, right?
jack posobiec
Take me out to the ballgame.
tim pool
Nah, nah, nah, nah.
jack posobiec
Hey, hey.
unidentified
Good, good.
jack posobiec
Bye, Karen.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Like, it's, you know, he walks over, a few seats, the ball was flying towards there.
He gets it.
It's his.
jack posobiec
That's a fair ball.
libby emmons
Well, fort.
jack posobiec
For a minute, though, Tim, there's that.
libby emmons
She never had her hands on it.
jack posobiec
Well, she may have like touched it a little.
libby emmons
She didn't have her hands on it.
It was down in front of her.
It wasn't even in her seats.
It was the seats in front of her.
jack posobiec
So there's always a scrap as a guy who grew up with my dad taking me countless, countless Phillies games.
Never had a situation like this where he gave away one of our balls.
Like, we would go outside, even just in local areas.
If there was a high school game, we would go out to the river after the game to collect foul balls from the river because it was cheaper than going out and buying them.
And that was just something we did on Saturday mornings with me, my brother, and my dad.
You know, we would ride the bike, go down the river.
There was a game, get the foul balls, dry them out, boom, got some practice balls.
And he never once would say, oh, we're going to hand it over.
We're going to do this.
No, it was when he was older, he would get it.
And then we would go get it.
He'd be like, go get it.
And if, and if you don't get it, it's, hey, be faster next time.
tim pool
You know, I actually think his son may have learned a really good lesson.
libby emmons
Don't be like dad.
Yeah.
tim pool
When you look at this photo and you can see him looking angrily at the old lady and this guy looking terrified and shocked and taking the ball from his own son, that kid's going to grow up and be like, when he has a kid, don't be like that.
jack posobiec
He's this.
I mean, if you look at the trajectory of some of the youth polls right now, there's a very good chance that he's going to be like very radical.
libby emmons
What if like this kid is just like this is his moment of realizing my dad's not a hero?
And you always realize that at some point, like my dad's not a hero, my dad's not, you know, infallible or whatever.
You realize your parents are human beings.
And he had to realize it once he had literally my hero.
Okay, I believe you, Dad, but you're a special case.
But I don't even know the rest of us learned that.
tim pool
This kid's going to grow up and be like the furthest right commentators.
jack posobiec
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Like, well, did you see the interview with him afterwards?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
I got to pull that up.
jack posobiec
Oh, if you have it, yeah, let's play that because it's so sad, but at the same time, it's that was what we were there for.
We were there to get a home run ball.
So I thought I had accomplished this.
Look at the body language.
unidentified
Playing his glove meant a lot.
And she was just so adamant and loud.
tim pool
Almost 29 seconds.
jack posobiec
None of them can even, none of them can even look at him in the eye anymore.
tony kinnett
You can't even say she was mean.
tim pool
Hundreds of people.
She barely said anything.
She said, That's my ball.
tony kinnett
She was adamant.
jack posobiec
Does that son look like he won?
tony kinnett
No.
libby emmons
No.
tony kinnett
Or not at all.
Again, and that's the catch: I couldn't imagine, forget, you know, whether or not I would consider my dad to be like my hero kind of a thing.
I can't imagine as a father taking, not my kid offered the ball and said, all right, they can have it.
And saying, you know what?
No, my kid deserves the ball.
They got it.
He took the ball from his kid's hands and gave it to him.
jack posobiec
He knows what he did.
Look at his face.
libby emmons
And the kid knows.
jack posobiec
He knows what he did.
And the line that the kid said was, this is so amazing.
tony kinnett
Emasculated cops.
jack posobiec
He said, we can't win.
libby emmons
We can't win.
jack posobiec
She was going to get it anyway.
unidentified
Why?
libby emmons
I don't know why she was going to get it anyway.
jack posobiec
That's the lesson that his father taught him.
tim pool
Give up, son.
unidentified
Give up.
Lose.
libby emmons
Really?
jack posobiec
Lose and accept the participation trophy of here's a sign bad.
unidentified
We feel so bad for you.
The pity stuff.
libby emmons
The pity stuff.
Who wants the pity stuff?
jack posobiec
Dude, you want to win.
Yeah.
You want to teach kids to win.
It's not about baseball.
It is about raising the next generation.
It is about how we run our society.
It is about the millions of interactions that go on.
tony kinnett
Responsible men.
jack posobiec
All the millions of interactions where some screaming liberal Karen is getting in somebody's face and a guy is terrified to just say no.
And I'm sorry, but the word no is the most masculine word in the English language because we are not going to get out of any of these situations if we just can't say no to women.
libby emmons
Well, and you have to, and the other thing too that everybody forgets is you have all these women who, you know, are all empowered and they're living in their power and they're doing all this yes, queen, all of this, right?
But what you forget is the way that these women got like this is by being so amiable and bendable that they say yes to everything stupid.
And that's how they got there.
Like, well, how do you think men ended up in women's bathrooms?
It's because women were too nice and cowed to say no.
tim pool
And men were.
libby emmons
And men were, but men got coerced by these things.
jack posobiec
So, Livy, what I'm trying to say is, what I'm trying to say, maybe.
libby emmons
So you need less agreeable words.
jack posobiec
Maybe women need to hear men when we say no means no.
libby emmons
You think so?
tim pool
I think what's happening is like this woman in New York on the subway is guys basically like men like this who are like she was gonna get anyway.
I'm just leaving.
Men are just leaving.
And women are left to what they voted for and they're upset with anything.
libby emmons
And they're not gonna help you on the subject.
jack posobiec
Right.
tim pool
I mean, I don't know.
jack posobiec
I mean, it's at least the acronym.
tim pool
I'm just saying, like, in New York, the women are screaming.
And so the guys are like, whatever, I'm leaving.
And then they get the city they vote for.
libby emmons
And now they live in crime-infested areas where the women in New York also complain that they can't get a date.
tim pool
You know what the tropes were?
The man would take his jacket off and throw it over the puddle so the woman could walk over without getting wet.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
The man's jacket would be ruined.
But then you started getting all of these feminist tropes of don't hold the door for me, split the bill.
We don't want men involved.
And what these feminists were basically saying is the chivalry they were discussing wasn't just a man opening the door or saying, I'll pay for your food.
It was them saying, I will stand in front of you when the violent, murderous rapist is coming at us.
Well, but that's also how they're saying, huh, it's all you, bro.
tony kinnett
I mean, that's also part of the free market of sex, though, because we stopped making the relationship between men and women about something that was supposed to involve responsibility and specific duty.
And you started saying, hey, man, I mean, you know, it has involved me getting laid.
And then when you start leading a man by the wang, he'll do whatever.
Again, the simp-tastrophe in this country.
By the way, later on in that video, the guy said-Simp-tastrophe?
libby emmons
That's good.
tony kinnett
I didn't want to do anything that I would regret in front of my children.
You didn't regret how you ended up acting in front of your children?
Are you serious?
phil labonte
There's a whole thing to regret.
libby emmons
I think he really.
phil labonte
Acting like that in front of your children, not standing up for yourself, not standing up for your kids, not acting like a man.
That is the most regrettable thing about this whole story.
tim pool
I got to be honest: between this and the cold play couple, this is more worthy of divorce.
libby emmons
Because, I mean, he's showing everyone that he can't take care of his kids.
tony kinnett
He's busy grabbing his man breasts.
jack posobiec
If you actually watch the video of the initial interaction, I don't believe the woman has been identified yet, which is people are claiming she has been.
Which is really weird because people were claiming that she had, but then like those women came out.
And because she's so odious, those women even came out and released statements.
I am not this woman.
Like, please stop coming after me.
tony kinnett
Maybe if you guys all didn't look the same.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
tim pool
I gotta pass, guys.
jack posobiec
I think it's the daughter.
If you watch the daughter actually kind of squares up a little bit.
The daughter shows more dominance than the dad does.
tim pool
More tea.
jack posobiec
More tea.
tim pool
I want to say this.
jack posobiec
Maybe she doesn't.
tim pool
Between the two people, I have more disdain for the dad than the woman.
jack posobiec
100%.
tim pool
The woman was like, hey, you walked over to where I was sitting and took the home run ball from me.
Now, I don't think she has an actual right to claim that.
And I think she's a snooty Karen.
jack posobiec
But hitball is a hitball.
tim pool
But I'm just like, she walked over and made a demand.
And I give that, like, in terms of how severe I think it is on a scale of one to 10 with 10 being like, this person is committing a violent murder.
It's like a two or a three.
It's like someone pushes you.
It's like, okay, you don't need to.
It's not the end of the world.
I don't care that much that she's being a Karen.
I am actually more offended the dad took the baseball from his own son and gave it to him.
jack posobiec
It's worse.
libby emmons
So I agree with you guys that that's terrible, but I have the utmost disdain and horror at this woman because one thing that she's doing that you guys may not realize is she's perpetuating the middle-aged white women suck thing.
And I'm so sick of that, you know, as somebody of that age group.
You know, I'm like really sick of that whole thing.
And it's just awful.
And also her husband was there and he was sitting in his seat.
He was like crouching down so that he wasn't being recognized.
jack posobiec
I try not to.
libby emmons
And then he tried to like get out.
He like scurried out and she followed him out.
But imagine having to go home with this horrible shrew, this horrible, shrill shrew.
She is miserable.
tim pool
I disagree.
I disagree.
libby emmons
I think she's terrible.
jack posobiec
Listen, yeah.
tim pool
I think everything about her is the husband of this guy.
I bet he's very happy.
You know why?
libby emmons
Husband of this guy?
tim pool
Of this lady.
Sorry.
I bet he's very happy.
You know why?
phil labonte
She wasn't yelling at him.
tim pool
No, no, no.
For once, he got sitting in his car and they go to a fast food restaurant and they forget the ketchup.
And then he's like, I really want to catch up.
And she goes, I will not stand for this.
And he goes, I don't got to do nothing.
And then he sits back and she goes and takes care of him.
tony kinnett
That was a John Mulaney sketch.
He would talk about how he was a weak man and he's like, I have a wife and my wife won't let me be mistreated.
And I was like, dude, you are like the most pathetic cuck of a man out here doing a comedy routine on it.
Are you okay?
Blink twice.
jack posobiec
It's, I mean, this is, it's.
libby emmons
I'm just so sick of women like this.
jack posobiec
It's disgusting.
What this guy does is disgusting.
It's not Christian.
And I saw a lot of people, you know, arguing with me that this is some kind of Christian response.
I mean, where does it say anywhere in the Bible that you're supposed to disrespect your own children?
tony kinnett
As the Baptist, I'll back you up, my catfit man.
I hear you.
jack posobiec
I mean, it's just not there.
libby emmons
I've got to play devil's advocate.
What about de-escalation?
jack posobiec
So de-escalation means like when you're about to die or not at the expense of your children.
You can de-escalate this.
And by the way, there are plenty of ways to de-escalate without submitting.
De-escalation doesn't mean submitting.
It doesn't mean surrender.
De-escalate could simply meet being you sit down and you, as Jesus actually tells us, turn the other cheek.
Turn the other cheek does not mean.
libby emmons
You've had her scream at you while you're like, no.
jack posobiec
Yeah, turn the other cheek does not mean submit.
It means stand your ground.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, a lot of people miss this wrong.
Yeah, you sing, you do the look-at-your-watch thing.
libby emmons
Everybody around was like, Can you believe this woman?
jack posobiec
And you just, you just sit there.
And by the way, social pressure was already on his side.
tim pool
Have you?
libby emmons
It sure was.
unidentified
Which he just says situational awareness.
tim pool
Have you guys seen that show Evil?
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
It's it's it's it's kind of weird.
jack posobiec
I think I've heard of it.
tim pool
Yeah, but there's a scene where uh the main character, this woman, is with her husband and they're in line at a grocery store when someone cuts in front of her and she goes, Excuse me, we're waiting in line.
And he's like, I've only got a few things.
She's like, no, you don't.
You have more than we do.
So get in the back of the line.
And he's like, what are you going to do about it?
And then her husband's like, just ignore it.
Just let it go.
So she goes to a freezer, grabs a bag of peas, walks up and goes, hey, and he goes, hey, lady, it's over.
I won.
And then she bashes him in the face with it.
libby emmons
With peas?
tim pool
A frozen bag of vegetables.
And he hits the ground.
And then she walks up to him.
And she's like, I don't know what she is.
It's some bag of vegetables.
She goes, We don't need a bag.
But the funny thing is, whatever your view on that show, it's funny that the depiction is the man would not stand up for his wife.
And so the wife had to do it herself.
And it's very funny that I feel like there's a large portion of men in this generation that are very much like that.
That Gen Z is starting to move, turn things around.
But these urban liberal guys are very much the low T, remember the try guys from BuzzFeed?
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I'm torn.
tim pool
Their testosterone was the same.
Was 20-year-old guys with testosterone equal to an 80-year-old?
phil labonte
I'm torn on that kind of stuff because I carry a gun and I'm not going to shoot someone over a space in line.
tony kinnett
Not with that attitude.
phil labonte
But the point is, like, if I go and actually try and push this guy out or something like that, that's me not de-escalating.
tim pool
You know, look, I was in line at a 7-Eleven a long time ago.
I was in Seattle and I had like probably, I don't know, five or six dollars worth of stuff.
And there was like four people in line.
A guy walked in front of me and I immediately was like, hey, bro, back of the line's that way.
And he's like, I'll be quick.
And I was like, I looked at the cashier and I was like, nah, he just cut the line.
And they're like, it's fine.
I was like, no, it's not.
I throw a thing on the counter.
I walked up.
I'm not going to get into a fight with him, but I'm not playing that game.
tony kinnett
All you got to do is just look at the individual.
jack posobiec
This is how the urban right gets born.
Because when you live, okay, when you live in a city, there is an unwritten set of rules that everybody follows, like when you're in trains, like when you're in line, anything like this, that everybody follows, that everybody kind of gets that,
hey, if we obey these rules and we sort of live this way, and maybe there's some sharp elbows or like, or like a New Yorker is going to say something, but Philly, too, by the way, but you all sort of abide by those rules so that you can live together in the city.
This is your social standard.
Mamdani, one of the videos that really drove me nuts about him was it's one of the ones, it's not just the one where he's eating with his hands, as disgusting an alien as that is.
That's the alien, the real aliens, by the way.
It's the fact that he's doing it on the subway because you know one of the rules of the subway is you don't eat open food like that.
libby emmons
No, you don't.
jack posobiec
Especially if it smells gross.
That stuff does.
And so if this guy stepped, if this guy can't even follow, it goes back to Broken Windows.
If he can't even follow the basic low-level social taboos to maintain the social order, how could he ever possibly be in charge of the entire city?
There's no.
libby emmons
He's probably cool with turnstile jumping, too, which is again.
jack posobiec
Which, by the way, would have prevented the murder of Irina Zarutska because the guy was a turnstile jumper.
tony kinnett
You heard what the city council said about this.
So we did a dive on what after they cut their cake.
Yeah, that's the thing.
So there's this NPR reporter of all people that's covering the event, and he's like posting all of these things that are going on, or maybe it was the Channel 9 reporter.
My producer's from Charlotte.
So when we're looking at these coverages, they go to a little cake break.
They come back and address the murder for like two minutes.
And then about 20 minutes later, they start having conversations about, well, what in the future can we do to equitize the safety standard?
libby emmons
Equitize the city.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tony kinnett
It's like a chocolate with white frosting.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tony kinnett
And it's a cheap cake.
unidentified
It was a cake, too.
tim pool
Yeah, it was a bunt cake, right?
jack posobiec
Yeah.
libby emmons
You mean like for some restaurants?
tony kinnett
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Before we talk about the woman brutally murdered by a man that was released from jail several times.
Let's have some cake.
tony kinnett
First from Marie Antoinette's classics.
But no, so they get to the end of this council meeting and they ask, well, what if we closed off, like put some fences up and closed off the train stations so that only people who paid the fare could ride?
Because he not only jumped the turnstile, he also didn't pay a fare on his bus to the train station.
So they talk about bus fare.
Then they get to the point of the business.
libby emmons
Well, in New York, that'd be okay because Mom Donnie's going to make the buses free.
tony kinnett
And that's when the head of the CATS train system says, well, we don't want to put fences up because I have, and I quote, equity concerns, end quote.
tim pool
It is, but real quick, I lived in New York.
You lived in New York.
Has anybody else here lived in New York?
Anybody?
My favorite thing was when I, because I lived in Williamsburg when the L went down for maintenance.
libby emmons
That was never good.
tim pool
And it just ended our ability to exist in New York because it's like you weren't going to hike to the G.
Yeah, exactly.
There's no trains.
If there's no L, and they were like, well, it's falling apart, so we have to shut it down.
And then it was like, guess I'll die.
There's like no grocery stores.
libby emmons
You wouldn't go across the Williamsburg Bridge.
Right over to Lowry Street.
tim pool
I'm kidding, obviously, but for like commutes to work, you need to take the train.
libby emmons
You do.
tim pool
Because you transfer from the L to, you know, at Cuba.
libby emmons
Anywhere else on the 14th.
tim pool
Yeah, so now you're riding your bike over the bridge.
It was just impractical.
And the train system in New York is totally broken.
It is gradually falling apart.
It was like flooding under the river.
libby emmons
So like 100 years old, some of the people.
jack posobiec
It's one of the oldest subway systems in the world.
tim pool
And now Mom Donnie says, Don't worry, it'll be free.
It's like, oh, that's going to be great.
Who are you going to enslave to fix it?
libby emmons
Yes, he will have to enslave people to fix it.
And he talks about how he's doing farmers, maybe?
How his parents are.
There you go.
He talks about how he was asked recently in an interview what he was going to do about the millionaires leaving the city and taking their corporations with them.
And he was like, I'm going to show them how this is going to make a better quality of life for them, too.
They already have a great quality of life.
They don't need more garbage from you.
They don't need more homeless, crazy people wandering around where they can see them.
They don't need any of that.
You know, they don't need congestion pricing either.
They don't need any of that.
Their lifestyle was great under Bloomberg when everybody's lifestyle was actually pretty great.
I mean, even East New York was coming up under Bloomberg, and then de Blasio got in and destroyed it.
Adams was like this, you know, band-aid trying to fix things.
He came in with like a tough on crime policy.
He tried.
He, you know, took some free Turkish airflow.
jack posobiec
So here's the thing: and we can, we can point directly to LA for this, but it's, it's, it's in so many of these major cities that, uh, so Karen Bass, for example, was an actual member of a revolutionary communist organization when she was younger in a battalion that was funded and uh and actually financed and paid for and um and controlled by the Cuban Marxist Party.
So she was an actual revolutionary communist.
tony kinnett
Politically sponsored.
jack posobiec
Politically sponsored.
And when revolutionary communists take over these areas, the urban elite, they use the release of violent prisoners as a way to keep the populace in line, to keep the middle class in line from revolting or doing anything.
And who do they go after?
They go after the Daniel Pennys.
They go after the people who try to rise up and do something about that because they want to try to find out where the nerd of wells or where the people who might be against them are coming.
And they use this as a pressure release to find out who those people imply pressure to see what gets released.
And so the idea that all of this is just happening because, oh, these are the unintended consequences of good intentions.
No, no, they aren't at all.
This is entirely intended.
The point of a system is what it does.
They want the violence.
It is terrorism against the American people, a form of it known as anarcho-tyranny.
tim pool
I want to jump to this story.
We got this video from Johnny MAGA.
Holy smokes.
Trump just stared down free Palestine protesters who called him the Hitler of our time.
jack posobiec
Let's go.
tim pool
In a D.C. restaurant.
Check this out.
unidentified
Enjoy your dinner.
Trump is Hitler.
Oh, our God.
tony kinnett
Trump's walking to him.
tim pool
He's walking over to him.
unidentified
Where's Trump?
Where's Trump?
tony kinnett
He's walking right to him.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
That's our guy.
Wow.
tim pool
He's pointing at him.
tony kinnett
She's holding the flag backwards.
tim pool
So, what's funny about this is that we've got this tweet from Nick Sorter who said President Trump has just unexpectedly put the White House press pool in a motorcade.
POTUS is on the move.
Destination unknown.
jack posobiec
This is earlier.
tim pool
To prove that DC is safe, he loaded up the press and brought him to a restaurant where this went down.
jack posobiec
So, by the way, this is the just my initial reaction.
This is the exact opposite of what we saw at the Phillies game.
This is a man, this is a man who refused to back down.
This is a man who saw the tiny women screaming in his face, and he walked directly over to them and pointed at him.
You know, he points at him a little bit.
And just knowing the president as much as we do at this point, I got to imagine he probably had a smirk on his face when he did that and probably gave them a little wave and sat down.
So, yes, there are ways to de-escalate without submitting.
You stand your ground.
You turn the other cheek.
That's exactly what he did.
tony kinnett
So, as the vice president's doppelganger, I'm just going to jump in rather quickly here and say that this really comes back to that emasculated man point and also to Mom Donny.
The opposite of Trump in this situation, you will see David French or some other columnist in the weak men category look at this story and say, ah, the writing's on the wall.
The free Palestine people, they found Trump.
They've surrounded the poor dictator.
And at the same time, the weak men are the last guys to actually realize it's all over.
They're the last guys.
Mom Donnie's proposing these ideas.
They're not popular.
Phil, we've talked about this before.
The weak men are the last ones to find out that, like you said, Jack, the rest of the baseball stadium was against that Karen.
The rest of the restaurants against these free Palestine protesters.
They don't get it.
America has left that crap behind.
phil labonte
Yeah.
And I think that the, I think you're right.
I don't know how long it's going to take the actual, you know, the people that would go and do this to actually recognize it.
I think there's probably a portion of the activist class that won't ever react, that won't ever realize it.
But the more people ignore them and start shouting them down and mock them, the better it is for the rest of society.
jack posobiec
Funny you mentioned that because my dad is actually texting in the family chat right now.
No, he is not watching the show.
He is watching the Phillies game.
Of course.
tony kinnett
What a man.
jack posobiec
That's my dad.
He doesn't miss Phillies games.
He just doesn't miss Phillies games.
Or when the Eagles are on, he doesn't miss Eagles.
And he says, people are now imitating the Philly Karen every time they catch a foul ball.
That's awesome.
So she is being mocked very derisively.
tim pool
How many people are going to dress up like Phillies Karen for Halloween?
tony kinnett
Oh, wait, hold on.
As many as the cold player.
The sweet couple?
tim pool
Yeah.
It's going to be.
Oh, something happens.
What's this?
phil labonte
Poland.
libby emmons
I don't know.
tim pool
Poland.
libby emmons
It might be.
phil labonte
I don't think there's anyone who's not in Poland.
libby emmons
I would dress up as the Phillies.
tony kinnett
They've reopened some of the airports.
libby emmons
I think they should start selling that wig, you know, with the little black underneath and the gray top.
tony kinnett
That's rips.
jack posobiec
So many of them, though.
tim pool
Every Spirit Halloween is going to have these ready to go.
libby emmons
I think they should.
tony kinnett
Okay, what's the generic name they give to baseball Karen?
Baseball Karen.
tim pool
Can't say Phillies.
Phillies is copyrighted.
libby emmons
Oh, it is, but she's wearing a Phillies jersey.
tim pool
Baseball Karen.
libby emmons
Baseball Karen.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
That's because that's already how I searched for it.
And that's how I found the story.
libby emmons
You found it by baseball, Karen?
tim pool
That's what people were saying on Twitter.
X. Sorry, Elon.
libby emmons
I think we were calling it Phillies Karen.
But I like the Phillies, you know.
tim pool
Baseball Karen.
libby emmons
You got to like the Phills.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's got weeping.
We never came up with a name for a weak guy, though.
You know, everyone's like, what's the male version of a Karen?
tony kinnett
I can say it.
It's just not politically appropriate.
tim pool
People are saying Kyle.
tony kinnett
A Kyle?
I don't know.
I don't see so.
tim pool
No.
No.
libby emmons
I don't think Kyle's it.
tim pool
There isn't one.
There's got to be a word for a guy who's weak.
Oh, cuck.
tony kinnett
Yeah, I was going to say cucks.
tim pool
You already have words for that.
tony kinnett
Yeah.
libby emmons
Yeah.
tony kinnett
It's ridiculous.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And that's what, you know, obviously with this video where Trump walks over the protesters, it's why Trump wins.
libby emmons
Yeah, so I have a lot of respect for J.D. Vance, just going at these protesters by ignoring them completely.
And I think that's what we need to do as a culture.
You know, we need to stop giving so much credence and airspace to these people who hate us and hate everything and really just want to be as destructive as possible.
tony kinnett
I don't give a bleeding.
libby emmons
Start ignoring them.
Ignore Greta Thunberg.
We've been doing a good job of that lately.
Ignore these stupid protesters who don't actually know anything about their history or what's going on.
tim pool
I think that from an evolutionary standpoint, women are doing what they're supposed to be doing and have always have done, especially this Karen.
The problem is that men have become weak and we will be tested.
And what's going to happen is liberals are not having kids.
These weak men are, I mean, that guy has kids, obviously, but guys like that are just less likely to have kids.
People on the right, these Gen Z guys who prioritize family are more likely to have kids.
And conservatives have substantially more kids.
So I think this is going to be a natural course correction over the next two or three generations.
tony kinnett
church in the midwest right now where i'm from is in experiencing a baby boom i've never seen anything like first of all we have like 20 years gonna be great Yeah, it is.
libby emmons
There's a lot of kids at my church, too.
tony kinnett
We had like a teen rally for kids over the weekend, and the preacher essentially gave kind of a testimony to the church and said he hasn't seen kids this invested in what was going on there in like 20, 30, 40 years.
There's a major vibe.
tim pool
Well, you know, it's funny.
I was saying with that kid at the baseball game, he looks at his dad and his dad takes the ball from him.
And I'm like, that kid got a great lesson about what not to be.
And I feel like these kids that are coming to church now and they're invested, it's because they have access to the internet and they can see those go woke, not even once memes where it shows like a 20, like an 18-year-old girl with like long red hair and smiling.
And then it's like two years into college and she's morbidly obese with a shaved head and like weird tattoos all over her face.
tony kinnett
It's like dare, but for transgender people.
tim pool
Just woke in general.
So it's like, you know, not even once.
Do we have a report?
You've confirmed that Poland has been taken over by Russia?
jack posobiec
No, it was the alien.
It actually was aliens, as it turns out.
No, they were all wrong.
It was aliens.
libby emmons
Do we know where they were from?
jack posobiec
Although it was the Klingons.
It was actually the Klingons.
And no, that's the main thing is that This is a report out of Poland now where a good friend of mine, Dominik Czarcinski, is the only member of the Polish government now, and he's up publicly.
And he's saying that we need to absolutely use caution when we look at all this stuff.
He's been sending me a few messages as well as we've been talking.
He's saying, who are these people that say that there's an attack going on?
You need to wait.
You need to figure out what's going on here.
tony kinnett
He's suggesting patience.
Patience?
jack posobiec
No, what?
Well, here's what's even crazier.
So, you know, the Polish parliament is actually controlled by the left right now.
And he's saying that he can't even get, as a member of European parliament, he can't even get a statement out of the government of Poland about what's going on.
tony kinnett
Are you serious?
libby emmons
That's interesting.
jack posobiec
That he can't even get a statement out of his own government.
tim pool
That's interesting.
jack posobiec
As to what's happening.
tim pool
And that's because they're taking orders from somebody else probably.
tony kinnett
I was going to say you probably have to check with NATO on the officials.
jack posobiec
Are they asleep, et cetera?
So there's going to be a huge, I mean, obviously, this is going to have political repercussions in the world.
tim pool
This actually sounds good like good news.
Oh, this actually sounds like good news because I would say that there's a slight probability favors.
NATO does not want this to escalate.
So they're keeping it tight because they would rather not go to war with Russia.
jack posobiec
If they'd rather not, he says.
tim pool
Yeah.
I think right now they're like, this is not the moment.
It's out of their control.
jack posobiec
We would all generally rather not have nuclear war.
tim pool
Indeed.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Well, I don't trust that NATO doesn't want to go to war.
You look at all these warmongers in these NATO nations that want to go to war.
jack posobiec
I'm not saying that the politicians wouldn't necessarily.
So I think that the political perspective is they want the constant threat of war to be there, and they want to use what the Western European nations want to use Vladimir Putin as a scapegoat for their own failures and their own inflation problems.
tony kinnett
Like with the gas prices and stuff.
jack posobiec
Yeah, the gas prices are the fact that the German industrial base is completely hollowed out.
It's in a state of collapse right now.
So German manufacturing exports are just crumbling.
They're being destroyed because they no longer have the cheap energy inputs that they once enjoyed.
And all of these government, France's government just collapsed yesterday, by the way.
tony kinnett
Again.
jack posobiec
Yeah.
The UK is pretty much headed for a civil war.
Tommy's got his thing going on in a couple of days.
tony kinnett
Saturday.
jack posobiec
Saturday.
tim pool
It's going to be interesting.
jack posobiec
A lot of people are going to be there.
Some rumors that a certain individual involved with X.com might be making an appearance.
I don't know.
Interesting.
Really?
Here's some word on the street about that.
tim pool
That doesn't surprise me considering this individual statements about the UK and you never know.
jack posobiec
But I mean, nothing confirmed.
tim pool
No, but let's be real.
Graham Lanahan is not a British citizen.
He's Irish and he made posts in America and they arrested him in the UK.
I mean, they will arrest Americans.
jack posobiec
It's completely insane.
tim pool
Remember that police chief saying, like, we'll try to extradite Americans for coffee words.
jack posobiec
So I was flying through Heathrow a couple of, I guess, a couple of months ago.
libby emmons
I remember this.
You were posting.
jack posobiec
And I had this really long layover because I had to book my flights late.
It's a really long story.
The communists in Belgium had shut down all the airports because they were on strike.
So I was like stuck in Europe.
And so I end up at Heathrow and I say, oh, this is going to be fun.
So I'm just going to, I'm going to test what I can tweet out.
And I said, well, I know I'm not allowed to tweet certain certain things, but surely, Kier Stamer, you wouldn't have a problem with me tweeting Bible verses.
And so I start tweeting Bible verses about how if you allow too many foreigners into your land, they will eventually take over you.
They will eat all your crops.
They will take over your house.
And then, you know, I said, that's doing pretty well.
That's doing pretty well.
And I said, but you know, since we're in the UK, let me try to tweet some things from a book that might be a little bit more familiar to you guys, The Koran.
And so I went to the Koran and I found some choice verses out of there as well.
libby emmons
How'd that go?
jack posobiec
Haven't been arrested yet.
But then again, I also haven't been back to the UK.
libby emmons
Haven't been back to the UK.
tony kinnett
But who are the guys that have actually come out in Britain to stop this?
A bunch of dads in small towns who are now posting community watches because they don't want Britannistan to leash into their communities.
libby emmons
But why?
tim pool
United Kingdom.
libby emmons
Why should they want it?
tim pool
United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is then.
unidentified
Right.
libby emmons
Yeah, why would they, why would they?
jack posobiec
Yeah, it's like, it's like there's that meme, you know, not meme, but there's that, there's that statement.
It's like, well, you know, if it wasn't for, it wasn't for the UK, we'd all be, you know, we'd all be speaking German now.
If it wasn't for what we've done, we'd all be springing.
Yeah, but all these towns are speaking Arab now.
They should be in Arabic.
tony kinnett
And we've got, hey, we've got a police.
Which dialys in the United States that's got the Arabic language on the crest?
jack posobiec
Egyptian.
libby emmons
That was Dearborn.
jack posobiec
There's a big one.
libby emmons
There was a police badge with the colours.
jack posobiec
Well, in the U.S., Dearborn, Michigan.
libby emmons
And then the officer, the chief, was like, no, it's not official.
We're just looking at it.
tony kinnett
Oh, that's always it.
Oh, we're just with the breakfast.
libby emmons
That's always what it is.
tony kinnett
Moving the barrel.
unidentified
I mean, come on.
tony kinnett
It's just still Cracker Barrel, guys.
Come on.
libby emmons
Well, they reversed course.
Did you see that?
tim pool
Yeah, no more remodels.
libby emmons
No more remodels.
tony kinnett
Imagine being one of the managers who went in on the remodel, and now you're sitting there wondering where all of the yard art for your walls went.
libby emmons
Yeah, you got to go get a thresher, put it back up on the wall.
tony kinnett
We did.
We actually put out a request on the show.
Oh, a thresher.
They're pretty cool.
libby emmons
Are they big?
It's a little thick.
It's big, though.
It doesn't fit on a wall.
tony kinnett
No, they're not all the same.
It was usually just parts, but they're like, they had like the soda, the old soda and cigarette ads in metal on the walls.
We reached out on the show when they were doing all the remodels.
A couple of people reached out.
They're sending us some.
We're going to put them on set.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
tony kinnett
Like some Cracker Barrel.
jack posobiec
But what was funny with like having taken Tanya there a couple of times, you know, she'll, she was pointing out like, you know, in the Soviet Union, we, we all had this stuff.
You're like her grandmom's house would have that stuff.
And, you know, her dad was raised using all that stuff.
So, you know, for her, it's kind of like a walk down memory lane.
But, you know, I saw a lot of people criticizing the Cracker Barrel thing, but it's like, no, actually, American culture, it turns out, can be whatever we say it is.
And if we want that direct connection to American history that is reflected, yes, in a corporate culture, because people are saying, oh, well, Cracker Barrel was only around since 1969.
So it's not really this old thing.
No, shut up, you idiot, right?
They are obviously referencing things from the 1800s, from the turn of the century, maybe in a small town.
tony kinnett
Things you might try in a small town, Jason Aldean.
jack posobiec
And we want that.
We want that connection to our history.
We want that connection to our past.
tim pool
I'm going to.
Mary had a really funny idea.
North Korean barbecue.
libby emmons
North Korean barbecue.
tim pool
And the staff are all like wearing jumpsuits.
And when you order like a pound of, you know, Bulgogi, they come out with just like a quarter pound.
And they're like, what do you mean?
phil labonte
It's totally.
tim pool
It's a pound.
That's what you get.
phil labonte
That's not actually beef.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I think it'd be funny to do a communist restaurant.
tony kinnett
1980 Faux.
tim pool
That's a good one.
But, you know, I am a fan of Ukrainian wafer cake.
Have you ever had that?
I'm sure that.
libby emmons
I haven't seen that.
It looks really good.
tim pool
I'm sure they have similar things like this in Poland.
The general premise is during the Soviet era, they were all broke.
So cake, they would have milk and they'd have wafers.
So they would just boil the milk down and then make sweetened condensed milk and they would put it between wafers and call it cake.
And it's just like a piece of caramel, basically.
But it is actually funny.
Maybe a lot of these young liberals would come to the socialist restaurant and we could just make fun of them because we treat it seriously.
Be like, all right, what'd you like to order?
And we're out of that.
We're out of that too.
Yeah, that's, I'm sorry.
I'm going to give you the, we've got to fix the menu and you just scratch everything off the menu and it's like, we have bread.
tony kinnett
That'd be good for a season.
Just to like bring unsuspecting people into the restaurant.
tim pool
Oh, good lord.
tony kinnett
I'm getting a good job.
tim pool
North Korean barbecue, I think, is a really good idea.
I think a Korean barbecue, North Korean barbecue-themed restaurant would do really well.
And I'm allowed to because my great-grandfather is from what is now North Korea.
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Shane H. Wilder says, I feel like we have finally crossed the Rubicon with the Arena Zarutska murder.
I'm starting to see normies get pissed, not only at the repeat criminal, but also the fact that no one did ish to help.
Agreed.
Alpha 2 Omega says, howdy people, I'm surprised the guy in Greta's boat didn't start lazily wiggling a broom handling the fire.
With the Nepal news, do you think it will negatively affect Zoran Mamdani in New York?
No.
libby emmons
No.
tim pool
I do think one of the funniest videos I've ever seen is the fire on Greta's boat because it took the dude a minute and a half before he told the captain there was a fire and he's running back and forth just saying, we've been hit.
van jones
We've been hit.
tim pool
It's like, my dude, shut up.
Get the fire extinguisher and put the fire out.
phil labonte
I understand.
libby emmons
You're on a boat.
phil labonte
It was their own flare that actually started the fire.
tim pool
Wow.
Well, there's a video showing a fireball come down.
So did they fire a flare in the air and then it came down directly out of the ship?
phil labonte
I thought that's what happened.
tony kinnett
This is something that happens in The Sims.
Like The Sims starts a fire in the house and then runs back and forth.
There's a fire here.
tim pool
Yeah, indeed.
I would be surprised if they staged it on purpose because this is what leftists do.
But I just want to stress how hilarious it is that instead of putting the fire out, he just ran back and forth yelling, we've been hit over and over and over again.
jack posobiec
I mean, Captain, I'm here.
phil labonte
We've been hit.
tim pool
No one doesn't even.
jack posobiec
As the resident Navy guy, you know, a fire at sea is no joke.
I mean, this obviously is something that has existed since the time of the age of sale.
And, you know, when you're at sea, there's no 911.
There's no, oh, let's call the fire department.
You better figure out how to do that.
You better figure out real quick.
tim pool
When you were in the Navy, they trained you.
If a fire breaks out on your ship, take your phone out, start filming, and run back and forth for two minutes yelling, fire.
jack posobiec
We do have to make sure that you're not.
But Tim, you have to make sure you have connection first.
tim pool
Oh, right, right.
So hold your phone up looking for the surface.
jack posobiec
So you've got to triangulate the satellites.
Now, at night, obviously you'd use the sex tent to.
tim pool
Indeed.
Indeed.
Make sure you get it good in film so everyone can see.
tony kinnett
Speaking of Thunberg, though, there are more views on the internet, not of this video regarding the Greta team boat, but of an AI picture enlarging her boobs the last week.
tim pool
That's fake, though.
tony kinnett
But that's the funny part of it.
unidentified
Oh, right, right.
tony kinnett
That's just like people care more about fake Greta Thunberg boobs than about like the supposed fire at sea.
tim pool
Didn't you see the Farquad picture of her?
tony kinnett
She went from Farquad to Farbod.
unidentified
Like, boom.
tim pool
Well, through AI.
The Farquad picture was real.
unidentified
Yes.
tony kinnett
Big oof moment there.
tim pool
Why did she get the Farquad haircut?
Someone gave her bad advice.
libby emmons
Yeah, that's a terrible haircut.
jack posobiec
I have no idea.
libby emmons
That haircut is so incredible.
tim pool
She's like, I want to look like Lord Farquad from Shrek.
And they're like, Can I?
libby emmons
Why does she look like that?
jack posobiec
Like He-Man, He-Man.
libby emmons
Why did she do that?
tim pool
She is.
I think a greater question is.
It's Lord Farquhar.
I think the greater question you're not asking is, why won't anyone deal with the fact that Israel is climate change and that the problem of climate change is Israel, as Greta Thunberg told tell us.
jack posobiec
You're saying the Jews are behind climate change?
tim pool
That's what Greta Thunberg apparently is saying.
unidentified
Gosh.
tim pool
It'd be funny if she just came out and actually said that.
jack posobiec
If she just said it.
If she just said it, yeah.
libby emmons
She probably thinks.
tim pool
They're like, why are you going to Israel?
And she's like, because of climate change.
But what about it?
libby emmons
She probably thinks that the Holocaust was bad because of carbon emissions.
tim pool
It would be funny if she's like, the space lasers are heating up the atmosphere and causing global warming.
phil labonte
They control the weather, right?
Isn't that the argument?
The Jews control.
unidentified
Is that Greta's actual weather?
tim pool
When the fire started, it was reported that one of the guys on the boat yelled, Israel did this.
I wouldn't be surprised if Greta Tunberg genuinely believes that Jews are controlling the weather, and that's why she's going there.
Like, I'd be willing to bet if you asked her, she's going to believe a lot of weird things.
tony kinnett
I just want to be in the room when Trump hears that for the first time.
I don't know what the hell they're saying.
Just like in the restaurant with the girl holding the Palestine flag backwards.
I want to see that.
Jews made the weather on the flag backwards.
tim pool
All right, let's grab some more of these chats.
We got Jay Dirt Biker.
He says, off topic, but shotguns have a very short range with no chance of causing harm to anything more than 100 yards away.
I'll just leave it at that.
phil labonte
It's not short range.
tim pool
That is incorrect.
tony kinnett
Also, if it's a slug, there's a difference.
tim pool
Yeah, that's incorrect.
phil labonte
And none of that is very incorrect.
I don't know what you're talking about.
tim pool
I've got a Remington 12 gauge with deer slugs, and it is accurate.
Obviously, it's not like, you know, if you have a rifle, you're going to be more accurate at longer ranges depending on the caliber or whatever.
But that is wrong.
That's video game logic.
phil labonte
Yeah, it is.
tim pool
Video game logic is like within 10 feet, the shotgun becomes pepper spray.
Yeah, exactly.
It's like, no.
jack posobiec
Please go ahead and try.
tim pool
We went to a range.
I got a KSG 25, and we put in 25 bucks shot.
And my buddy just pump, bang, pump, bang, just unload it.
It vaporized the wood frame of the target.
And this was at like, I don't know, 40 yards.
jack posobiec
You see this?
You see the same kind of video game thinking a lot in Ukraine where they're just like, the U.S. should just give them more weapons.
And you're like, what weapons?
With what production process and what armament and what manufacturing?
tony kinnett
Hey, the ghost of Kiev was on my spawn screen.
I'm really excited.
jack posobiec
They literally just think that weapons can spawn automatically anywhere.
And when you walk them through, that it's actually this very long supply chain.
Or like the Israel-Iran war and the idea that the Iron Dome just has unlimited firepower all the time.
It's a joke.
It's ridiculous.
It's not how the real world works.
tim pool
Liberty Then says the media's refusal to cover the majority of crimes committed by black people has allowed the infection of the criminal element in the black community to metastasize and destroy the black community.
I largely agree.
I think the problem is we saw this Gallup poll when they were defunding these police departments.
And in the black communities, they were saying they needed more police.
But these white uppity liberals were going around saying, no, they actually don't want that.
Yeah.
There's that famous book.
It's called In Defense of Looting.
I recommend you read about it.
I wouldn't say read the book because it's just, it's nonsense.
But these white liberals from Brooklyn argued that black people loot as a way to get back at white supremacy.
And I'm like, the funny thing is the first article was written in Ferguson when the locals were desperately trying to stop the rioting.
And it was people from outside of Ferguson going into Ferguson and riding and burning things down.
jack posobiec
Same as Kenosha.
tim pool
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
jack posobiec
They're all up from Chicago.
tim pool
I love that video of the white girls torching and vandalizing things during the riots.
And the local black women are like, what are you doing?
And they're like, we're doing this for you.
And they're like, stop.
tony kinnett
I disagree with the idea, though, that the media's amplification of crime is what led to the ultimate destruction.
The destruction was already on the way.
I mean, you had guys like Thomas Sowell calling this out decades ago.
Fatherlessness was the poison seed that will kill any community, period.
I mean, it's not like covering crime is going to be the death tell.
It's just going to exacerbate it.
tim pool
I think Democrats hate black people.
jack posobiec
There's, I mean, one of the, but I guess, not that it's a pushback, but I think there's more data points that we need to look at.
One of the things that I tweeted earlier today is, you know, now we've seen this video, as horrifying as it is, now we know why they haven't released the Austin Metcalf video where Carmelo Anthony stabs him.
But the interesting thing, I mean, lots of interesting things about the Carmel Anthony case, but one of the most fascinating ones, I think, was that his family did seem to be very intact.
They were certainly upper middle class.
His dad seemed to be very involved in his life.
And yet he still fillets.
tim pool
It's a filling.
There are people cultural issue.
phil labonte
There are people that are just bad.
Like there are, like, I don't believe in the blank slate at all.
There are people that are heavily inclined to do evil things and do bad things.
Like, that's just, that's just obviously true.
unidentified
Yes.
phil labonte
I mean, I don't think that it breaks down by race, but it is true that there are people that are that just have, that are psychopaths, that have no, no concern for other people's lives, no concern for the way that other people will feel things.
They don't experience that.
jack posobiec
He could be a member of any race.
phil labonte
Yeah, I'm not saying it's racially based, but there are people like that.
And so to make it an excuse of, oh, well, this person just didn't have a father.
No, it's that person is a bad person.
jack posobiec
We can track stats, I think is what he's saying.
tim pool
There is a simple thought experiment that breaks down the racial component in stories like this where people are making comments saying like, well, maybe, you know, what is the comment people have been saying online?
It's better to be racist than dead.
jack posobiec
Right.
tim pool
But I'm going to put it like this.
And I'll ask you this question, Jack.
You are walking down a street in New York at two in the morning.
jack posobiec
Let's go.
And it's usually Fifth Avenue when I'm looking up at Trump Tower.
tim pool
And on the left side of the road, there's a black man.
jack posobiec
Okay.
tim pool
On the right side of the road is a white man.
And you're like, I got to choose which side of the street I'm going to walk on.
The black man is in his military uniform.
He's a ranking officer.
He's standing upright and he's got a smile on his face.
And the white guy on the right is scratching and shaking and holding needles.
Which side of the road do you want to walk on?
unidentified
Which branch?
tim pool
The point is there's very obviously like the people are making race-based comments saying like she shouldn't have sat next to a black guy or whatever.
I'm like, dude, if I got on a train and I saw a black man wearing a suit sitting there and he gave me a little wave, I'm not going to think too much.
jack posobiec
So here's what I'll say.
Here's what I'll say in response to that, though, is, and yes, obviously in that very, you know, very peculiar scenario.
tim pool
Black military officers.
libby emmons
Although why is there a military officer smiling at you on Fifth Avenue?
tim pool
They've been smiling at you.
jack posobiec
I said he's standing on the street corner because Trump has done his National Guard deployment to New York.
Which, by the way, there were National Guard in New York for like a decade after 9-11.
They were armed M4s, M16s.
You'd see them on the subway all the time.
libby emmons
They were on all the corners.
jack posobiec
And everybody liked them.
libby emmons
We're all dead.
jack posobiec
Here's what I'll say, though.
There is an element of truth to it where it is not racist that if you are someone like this, that you're just playing the odds and saying, you know what?
I'm not going to sit in this car.
I'm going to go over here.
I don't think that's racist.
I don't think it's racist at all.
I think there's a difference between that and, say, discriminating against an individual.
But if you are just walking down the street or trying to ride a public thoroughfare, it is not racist to say, you know what?
I have a general understanding of how crime works in this country and I'm going to avoid certain things.
tim pool
This is my racist.
If you walk onto a subway train and you have a seat to your left and a seat to your right, and there is a black man in a suit with a briefcase and he's like reading the Wall Street Journal and you go, I ain't sitting by that guy because I'm scared.
That's racist.
Because that's an illogical assessment.
tony kinnett
This is why they always try to lecture.
jack posobiec
It's illogical.
It's illogical.
But it may be logical for you to say, well, I know there's going to be more crime from this car because it's filled with this type of people and less crime from that car because it's filled with that.
libby emmons
If I'm on the subway and I see a group of teenagers, I move to the other car.
jack posobiec
Yeah, teenagers, great example.
tim pool
Young men are more likely to commit violent crime of any race.
My point is the concerns that we should be having when we're discriminating.
And I mean that in the broad sense, discriminating in any capacity, like taking the subway or taking it.
tony kinnett
Circumspect behavior.
jack posobiec
Yeah, every choice is discriminatory.
tim pool
Exactly.
That's what I mean.
So when we are discerning what we will do as we enter a train, if you are literally going to choose to sit next to a white dude with patchy hair and like lesions who's shaking back and forth because you don't want to sit next to a black businessman, that's a racist problem.
And that's going to cause you harm in your long term.
tony kinnett
That was just stupid.
I would rather, okay, like if you're talking about like a Southern Baptist black church, all right, I would rather be in that environment than I would rather be in a bar in the out like interstate Great Plains that biker gangs are known to visit.
Seriously, there's a difference.
The races are different than the common stereotype, but I would rather be among a bunch of people loudly praising worship and wearing suits than guys in rough clothing acting stupid.
jack posobiec
I think the stats don't lie.
The stats still don't lie about where the actual race-based violence comes from.
tim pool
And I agree.
jack posobiec
And the stats don't lie.
tim pool
And I agree.
And we've talked about it in terms of Chicago.
I was telling my friends, like, if you told someone who has never been to Chicago that if they're walking down the street and they come to a neighborhood that is predominantly black, you're probably in a bad neighborhood.
And that's not race-based.
That is just there's a correlation there.
For whatever reason you want to argue about it, there are outliers.
Hyde Park has double the national average of black people and it's actually below average crime.
And that's where Barack Obama lives.
And that's actually a very beautiful and safe neighborhood.
So, you know, my point is largely.
jack posobiec
That's class-based, too.
tim pool
But, but my point is we can certainly make the point about Chicago neighborhoods having higher crime in the black neighborhoods.
But when you are discerning, you should be discerning largely based on the type of person.
Because if you ignore that a white guy looks like he may be a drug addict, violent person, just because he's white, you're stupid.
You're going to get hurt.
tony kinnett
That becomes the initial analysis of culture.
And here's the problem.
We're aggravated at people right now in this country because they are assessing culture in a split second and making a choice that may be to go to the other side of the street or lock the car door or whatever because they see they've seen culture turn out badly when that culture then attacks them.
And people, I don't think it's wrong to say someone is bad for recognizing some cultures are just less valuable than others.
jack posobiec
And we're all kind of beating around the bush because in this very case, had she chosen to sit in the other car, she'd be alive.
She'd be alive.
So, yeah, you could call her whatever you want, but she'd still be alive.
And, you know, and it's also true that it bears out that, you know, that low-income, low-income white neighborhoods are still less violent than low-income black neighborhoods.
phil labonte
We saw a stat today that said black women commit more murders than white men.
libby emmons
Black women commit more murders than white men.
That's wild.
phil labonte
Yeah, I don't know.
We had it up on, I don't know if it was up here today or if I just saw it on X.
But yeah, I mean, you know, statistics are what it is.
jack posobiec
Yeah, the cop shows that you watch on Netflix.
tim pool
Like, the cop arc has almost no murder.
jack posobiec
Yeah, I mean, obviously, income correlates with violence.
Like, we've clearly, you know, high income does not correlate.
phil labonte
Yeah, when you don't go to violence.
When you don't commit violence, you don't go to jail.
And that means you can go to work and you can make your life better.
jack posobiec
Well, it's also, it's also an idea of, you know, low time preference that if you're someone who understands delayed gratification, you're going to work hard.
You're going to make more money typically if you're not like some scam artist.
But no, the line I was just going to make, and Serge and I were chatting about this before, is that like all those Netflix cop shows are lying to you.
You know, like the idea of white collar murder in America, it's so rare.
phil labonte
So rare.
unidentified
It's so exceedingly rare.
jack posobiec
You know, it is, yeah, exactly.
It is quite the opposite, where you are much more likely to be the victim of crime if you are white collar in America than to be the perpetrator of crime.
And yet every single one of these cop shows, except for The Wire, which is the only one 25 years ago, does not show you the actual truth about murder in America.
tim pool
Let's read some more.
We got Jacob Hawley says Nepal imploded.
Thousands are fleeing into India.
The prime minister's wife was set on fire and ended.
jack posobiec
Excuse me.
Another communist prime minister.
tim pool
Another former prime minister's other was stripped and thrown off a balcony.
Parliament members are being captured and killed.
jack posobiec
Are they communists?
tim pool
The video.
So this is the fascinating thing about the government is that it's a Republican parliamentary system dominated by communist political parties and socialist parties.
phil labonte
It's because you can vote your way into communism, but you have to shoot your way out.
tim pool
And that's what's happening right now in Nepal.
jack posobiec
So up until 2008, Nepal was a monarchy.
And then since 2008, I think they've had like a dozen different governments because, but it was the communists that overthrew the monarchy.
So the Maoist insurgency, which was largely funded by the CCP to use as a check against India.
The problem is that no communist government has been able to gain stability there.
So they just keep going through cycles of this.
phil labonte
And then they tried to take away TikTok and the kids got pissed.
jack posobiec
So it's, yeah, actually, they did.
It was a social media.
phil labonte
It wasn't.
jack posobiec
Okay.
I think it was every other social media was banned.
And so what can I say?
You know, we've got a lot of good communists being made in Nepal right now.
tim pool
Unit unit glue says, look up Project Stingray.
Law enforcement is using it.
It's unconstitutional.
Two, CA clinics are refusing to comply with, what does it say?
FMCSA truck department.
You can do DOT physical, you pay.
Then they refuse, send it to the FMCSA.
I don't know what that is.
tony kinnett
The Stingray thing?
tim pool
No, the second part of that was something about trucking in California.
tony kinnett
I don't know anything about it.
tim pool
No idea.
Stingray, that's when they intercept your phones, right?
tony kinnett
Yeah, they fake being a cell phone tower.
jack posobiec
The Polish government has finally put out something.
Vagaries and operational commanders, during today's attack by the Russian Federation carrying out strikes on targets in Ukraine, our airspace was violated by drone-type objects.
unidentified
Whoa.
jack posobiec
An operation is underway aimed at identifying and neutralizing the objects on the orders of the operational commander of the Polish Armed Forces.
Weapons have been deployed.
Services are actively working to locate the downed objects.
So regardless of exactly what happened, it does appear to be a violation of Polish airspace.
However, it was attacks that were targeted on Ukraine is what they're making sure to put out.
But Tim, to your point earlier, NATO would not be scrambling in the numbers that we saw had something not spooked.
tim pool
But the larger question is, will NATO want a direct engagement?
Because they have a casserole's belly.
unidentified
No.
tony kinnett
Well, they're doing a little bit of, they're doing a little boiling frog here.
So, I mean, you've got, this is, again, this is how the Russian military has operated, especially kind of on its borders.
If it does want to see kind of how the reaction might be, they might say, well, we were actually trying to attack this area and just something kind of fell over to the wayside.
I mean, that's something that Russian policy has been since like the mid-aughts, just to try to test.
See, well, what's the reaction if we just get a little close and it's just a little whoopsie kind of an accident?
I mean, you could, is that what happened here?
I have no idea, but that you could read it that way.
We'll have to see.
jack posobiec
Potentially, you know, there's certainly boundary testing, but at the same time, it seems very clear that, and it seems that Poland is making very clear in their first official statement now that this was not an attack on Poland.
libby emmons
Okay.
tony kinnett
I agree.
libby emmons
Well, that's a good thing.
tony kinnett
Which is different than what the Ukrainian media was reporting initially.
jack posobiec
Correct.
tony kinnett
Yeah, I mean, just keep being clear.
jack posobiec
We may never actually know how, quote unquote, how far the airspace was violated.
So, of course, they were saying it was, you know, going as far as, you know, Western Poland, I think CNN said at one point, which is just a complete lie.
tony kinnett
What?
tim pool
Hey, Mac.
We got an important super chat.
He says, traditions are a beautiful thing.
I've been waiting nine months to add to the Tim Cast tradition.
phil labonte
Welcome to the world of quiet Anthony.
Congratulations.
tim pool
At 4:51 p.m., a whopping six-pound four-ounce.
Our first son and second child.
Phil, you're next, brother.
phil labonte
Actually, I think there will probably be people in between today and when my son is born.
But yes, very soon, my son will be born.
libby emmons
Congratulations.
tony kinnett
Get him a baseball.
jack posobiec
Days away, weeks away.
phil labonte
He's going to be born in October at the end of October.
Due dates 22nd.
jack posobiec
Let's go.
phil labonte
We'll see.
jack posobiec
Let's go.
phil labonte
I'm very excited.
She's very uncomfortable.
jack posobiec
That point.
phil labonte
Consistently.
jack posobiec
Can't sleep on her belly.
unidentified
Not exactly.
All right.
tim pool
Brand Dugas says, Tim, the audio of the attack was released.
Haunting and sad.
He was telling everyone that he got that white girl.
Love the show.
Follow me, Bran Dugas.
This man was told over and over again for a decade, for 15 years by the corporate press, that he was an innocent victim of an evil, white, oppressive patriarchy.
And it looks like that's what his motivation was.
And then CNN comes out and says, we don't know why he did it.
They always do that, don't they?
tony kinnett
The New York Times, we may never know.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
Of course not.
jack posobiec
Well, he clearly was motivated by anti-white hatred and this idea that, and yes, it is spun up by, so what's being done to a lot of the, and in my estimation, what's being done to a lot of the black community, not all of it, but this propaganda is similar to what you see with Hamas radicalization, where they want black people in America to feel that they are in an apartheid situation.
The only way to respond, to liberate yourselves, is to commit mass violence, to commit vast brutality against the oppressors, hit them where it hurts, like going after their children, going after these young women.
And does it make any sense?
No, of course it doesn't make any sense.
Was this woman, you know, obviously not even born in this country?
Of course.
But it didn't matter because to him, she was a white girl and therefore she was an oppressor.
She was a member of this class and she needs to be taken out because it's just a way to create a race war.
That's what they want.
tim pool
Is this Dom says women should not be in public?
And this is the reason why Irina should have not been out of her father's house till she was married, at which point she would have stayed at her husband's home.
Feminist men got her killed.
jack posobiec
Is the comment or Muslim?
tim pool
I was going to say, like, that's a pretty far swing in the other direction.
phil labonte
It was haram that she was on the train.
jack posobiec
It was haram.
unidentified
I think living in a war zone.
tim pool
There's many tiers of how we deal with this.
First, a guy who's been arrested 14 times, who is clearly crazy, should be institutionalized and not able to walk the streets.
After that, people should be allowed to be armed and defend themselves.
The media should not be pushing narratives about poor, innocent victims in an evil white supremacist patriarchy.
There are a lot of things that need to change in our society, I believe.
And I would love the conclusion to be that we are all armed and able to defend ourselves in various ways.
tony kinnett
I mean, from the government perspective, how about public transportation should just be freaking safe?
Public city parks should just be safe.
phil labonte
You know how you make it safe?
You empower regular citizens to be able to defend themselves and defend others.
tim pool
Well, Jasmine Parket says, or imagine this, a train where every train cart actually just has these two foot by two foot cubes or like, you know, little rooms.
phil labonte
Get in a pod.
tim pool
Yeah, you get in a pod.
So when the train pulls up, all the doors open at once and you choose an isolation pod to stand in where it's clear and you can see outside, but no one can touch you.
And then you'll be safe.
libby emmons
Maybe there could be like a little syringe and it could sedate you until you're stop.
tim pool
Oh, or if you're getting aggressive, this arm will grab you and then calm you down.
jack posobiec
You know what's crazy?
So when I visit Eastern Europe, when I'm in Poland, you don't need any of these things because they actually take crime seriously and they just allow you to have a nice city filled with nice people.
And you don't need this urban right coming up to correct the problems because they're already – and Poland, you go to jail for six years for shoplifting.
Right?
libby emmons
Six years for shoplifting.
jack posobiec
You can.
Yeah, you can.
libby emmons
That's fair.
tony kinnett
Jack, let me ask a follow-up question on that.
jack posobiec
You just deal with it at the heart.
You deal with it right at the base level.
tony kinnett
Regarding Polis police, if they see you committing a crime, what does that cop do in the midst of you committing that crime?
jack posobiec
He takes a selfie.
He uploads that to TikTok.
No, he arrests you.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tony kinnett
Does he do it like really calmly and nicely?
Like, I am going to put hands on you.
What does he do?
jack posobiec
No, you're going to get the crap beat out of you.
Why?
And not just him.
Like, usually there will be a swarm of police officers.
tony kinnett
Implicit corporal punishment for your actions immediately.
Wow.
jack posobiec
I've seen it time and time again.
tim pool
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This one's going to be fun.
jack posobiec
Can we show the video on the uncensored one?
tim pool
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Do not be afraid to simply tell the truth.
phil labonte
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tim pool
We will see you all at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL in about 30 seconds.
And I have a very important question for you.
Thanks for hanging out.
I have a question for all of you.
jack posobiec
Nine inches.
unidentified
That's, oh.
There you go.
tim pool
Well, that was the question.
Anyway, let's go to the news.
jack posobiec
He asked you to describe me, Jack.
Let's go home.
Go home early.
tim pool
The question is, Jack, you're walking down the street at two in the morning.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
And there's a black man on the left.
And there is an ethnically ambiguous woman on the right.
jack posobiec
Okay, Jasmine Crockett.
tim pool
It's Clarence Thomas on the left, and it's Sodomior on the right.
Which side of the road do you choose to walk on?
jack posobiec
Sodomior.
I'm so going to Sodomor because I'm going viral, baby.
I'm going viral right now.
Right now.
tim pool
So I actually have a fact check.
I was wrong.
In fact, Hyde Park, which is in Chicago and has more than double the population average of black people and is a wealthy neighborhood.
Actually, the residents of Hyde Park are responsible for more deaths than any other neighborhood in Chicago.
libby emmons
Is it abortion?
tim pool
Get this.
No, murders.
jack posobiec
No, it's because Barack Obama's there.
tim pool
Oh, he got it.
Oh, that was a joke.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Barack Obama killed 387 in 09, 788 in 2010.
Thus, the deaths attributed to residents of Hyde Park.
jack posobiec
Black residents.
tim pool
Black residents of Hyde Park greatly exceed that of anyone else in Chicago for this time period.
jack posobiec
He throws it off.
He just throws off the bell curve there.
You've got this data point.
You got this nice bell curve and then this one data point up here.
tim pool
Someone's, you got a tweet.
Did you know that despite being one of the wealthier neighbors in Chicago?
Do black, black residents of Hyde Park are responsible for more deaths than any other neighborhood?
tony kinnett
And after they kill, after they kill, they give him a library.
It's ridiculous.
libby emmons
And that's such an ugly library.
tony kinnett
That's going to cause more deaths.
jack posobiec
I actually think that library is like one of the coolest things I've seen because it's like you straight up took something from like, I don't know.
tony kinnett
That one kid's book?
What are you talking about?
jack posobiec
Star Wars or like, what's the alliance in Firefly, you know, and actually built it in real references.
In real, you know, in real life.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jack posobiec
Where it's like, or it's like, man, it looks horrible, but it's like exactly what every totalitarian government builds.
tony kinnett
A leaf on the wind library.
jack posobiec
A leaf on the wind.
There you go.
tony kinnett
All right.
You don't have any references for that space western, Tim?
tim pool
No, Firefly?
I don't know that one.
libby emmons
You didn't see Fire.
It's good.
tim pool
Yeah, but they cancel it too quick.
libby emmons
Well, yeah, but then they had a movie.
tim pool
Isn't it amazing how like you know the meme of the horse that's like the ass is drawn really well, but then eventually it becomes like a stick figure?
tony kinnett
Oh, yeah, yeah, you're talking about it.
tim pool
Star Trek and Star Wars.
jack posobiec
You're talking about Game of Thrones.
tim pool
Well, that too, but Star Trek and Star Wars have this like multi-generational legacy of being that drone.
unidentified
What was the second one you said Star What?
tony kinnett
Don't you dare, Jack.
Don't you do this too?
tim pool
I don't know.
I must have misspoke to Star Trek then.
jack posobiec
Yeah, yeah.
tim pool
There's no other.
jack posobiec
There's Star Trek and there's Battlestar Galactica.
I'm not familiar with any other.
tim pool
Me neither.
jack posobiec
I've just seen Stars.
tony kinnett
And then there was Star Trek.
tim pool
It must have been a Mandela.
tony kinnett
It reigns above them all.
jack posobiec
Yeah, obviously.
But that's not a franchise because there's only one.
tony kinnett
I'm still sad about it.
I don't want to talk about it.
tim pool
Man, Star Wars sucks so much.
tony kinnett
I hate you.
jack posobiec
Wait, I actually saw this like...
tim pool
Oh, did you guys see the new Marvel character?
jack posobiec
Was this a new character?
I saw a conspiracy theory about Starship Truth.
tony kinnett
You are a big Marvel guy.
libby emmons
Really?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Don't you guys know about the new character in Marvel Rivals, a lesbian as a guardian princess with a trans wife?
tony kinnett
Oh, finally.
libby emmons
Sean was telling me about this.
tim pool
Oh, finally.
tony kinnett
Are they Angela?
tim pool
What the?
phil labonte
I don't hang books because I'm an angel.
jack posobiec
You're noise.
tim pool
It's an angel named Angela.
jack posobiec
So if we're going off of statistics, since we're talking about statistics tonight, are we going to see most of the battles between the two of them?
Yes.
Because statistically speaking, the highest level of domestic violence in terms of relationships in the West is lesbian couples.
libby emmons
Yeah, and they have a really high divorce rate as well.
tony kinnett
I like the violence.
tim pool
I have a question for you.
So I actually think this is from Pink News, and it's a lie.
This lesbian doesn't have a trans wife.
I'll tell you why.
jack posobiec
Wouldn't that just be a husband?
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Angela is married to a woman, a biological female.
It's not a trans person.
See, in the story, Sarah was a male wingless angel who was transformed into an angel, and angels are female.
So in the actual comic book, it was a male who was transformed into a full biological angel female.
That's not a trans wife.
That's just a female wife.
tony kinnett
This is like Representative Tim McBride fanfiction.
This is disturbing on so many levels.
tim pool
So she's just a regular lesbian, not a transbean.
libby emmons
Not a transbean.
tony kinnett
Transbend.
It sounds like a drug.
I take transbian before important presidential debates.
libby emmons
Right.
tim pool
Transbe.
jack posobiec
But just on the Starship Troopers thing, have you seen, did you see the Alan Bakari tweet that was going pretty well?
unidentified
No, what was it?
jack posobiec
So this was kind of like in response to Rand Paul saying that people need to read To Kill a Mockingbird more than when they were talking about due process.
libby emmons
Was this his cartel thing?
jack posobiec
Yeah, he was relating it to the cartels, but obviously, given the content of the novel, fictional novel, that people were very much more relating it to the massive violence against white people that's been going on that we see going viral right now.
And people saying that, you know, this guy DiCarlo got due process 14 times.
And how did that work out for Arena?
And so Alan Bakari tweeted the, you know, the picture of, I think it's Johnny Rico, and he's fighting one of the bugs in Starship Troopers.
unidentified
And he's like, he's like, he's like, he's like, sir, sir, we need to get them due process before we fight back, sir.
And then, and I was like, quick, quick, someone toss him a copy of To Kill a Mockingbird.
tony kinnett
I'm doing my part.
unidentified
I'm doing my part.
But then people were attacking Alam to try to say, well, actually, you don't understand the media literacy of the right is at it again because they don't understand that actually the aggressors were the humans and the bugs were actually the heroes.
tim pool
The bugs had to be a lot of people.
phil labonte
Always changed the side of the bugs.
tony kinnett
Waiting for this opportunity.
libby emmons
Yes, yes, yes.
tony kinnett
And waiting for this opportunity for such a long time.
My favorite book is the novel Starship Troopers.
It's nothing like the movie.
unidentified
So different.
tony kinnett
The book is so good.
It has changed my entire political philosophy in the last two years of Red A Day Times.
tim pool
I just want to say, guys, you don't understand the bugs had to blow up Buenos Aires because the Nazis were there.
jack posobiec
I'm from Buenos Aires and I say, kill them all.
unidentified
By the way, I would like to say they're both great.
Oh, they're excellent.
jack posobiec
And they're right.
tony kinnett
Yeah.
jack posobiec
But so this is what I was going to get into in what I call it a conspiracy theory.
So yes, in the novel, it does make it much clearer that it's the humans that are sort of encroaching on their territory.
tony kinnett
But it's going to have to be somebody because being spread.
So it's either going to be you or them.
That's the choice.
unidentified
Right, right.
jack posobiec
But in the movie, that's not ever mentioned once.
And so there's this like one line about, you know, some kind of like exploration.
tony kinnett
We're in the science lab.
Why don't we just get along to get along?
Oh, and then, yeah, they were exploring the Mormons did it.
jack posobiec
Yeah, and then they blame on the Mormons.
tim pool
Have you guys seen the movie The Fifth Wave?
It's like one of those young adult apocalypses.
jack posobiec
Oh, you know what?
You know, I know what you're talking about.
I don't think I saw it, though.
tim pool
It's kind of meh.
The general premise is that an alien ship comes above Earth and everyone panics for about a week, but nothing happens.
And then people kind of like, okay.
Then all of a sudden there are waves of destruction that wipe out different portions of humanity like a virus.
And then the fifth wave, eventually humanity is largely decimated.
The aliens clearly are purging the earth of humans.
And then the premise is the military shows up to this town of survivors and says, we're all going to bring you to safety.
Kids are going to go in this one.
Parents wait here.
And then they basically say that the aliens take human shape.
And, you know, for this, we had to separate and test everybody.
The kids are brought to a facility where they're trained to go and hunt and kill humanoid aliens, but it turns out they're just killing humans.
That's the plot twist.
unidentified
Ha ha.
tim pool
But the reason I bring it up is basically in the end when one of the kids confronts, they're like, they're basically the humans that are serving the aliens.
We're hybridized genetically to serve them.
And he's like, the kid goes, why are you killing us?
And he goes, because you're in the way.
And then he was like, that's horrible.
It's terrible.
Like, we would never do that.
And he goes, you do it all the time.
We're just clear-cutting the forest, and you're in the way.
So we're going to wipe you out.
That's it.
There's nothing else.
tony kinnett
Yeah, because that's like the aliens theme.
But also, wait a minute, that fifth wave, that's a Chloe Mortez, the really weird face girl.
tim pool
She's the star with the short legs.
tony kinnett
Yeah, like her forehead's really out of proportion to the rest.
tim pool
She just got married to some chick.
jack posobiec
Is she really?
tony kinnett
Yeah, she's going to be in the new Marvel movie.
unidentified
It's going to be all right.
tim pool
Let's grab Coco.
jack posobiec
I will say, though, what you said about Star Wars, that shout out to the Red Letter Media guys because they did like a sort of Mr. Plinkett says goodbye to Star Wars.
And he had a great take where Star Wars used to be a four-quadrant movie.
It was made for sort of everybody.
It was a movie that parents could go see.
You could take your kids to.
Everyone could just enjoy it.
And that's why the first three films were so successful.
But now, and this is so genius, the way that he's explained it, where Star Wars has now become a luxury brand for elitists.
tim pool
Yeah.
jack posobiec
And that you have to be able to afford Disney Plus, and they were going through and actually crunching the numbers of like how – that there's such a few amount of people that actually subscribe to Disney Plus on the – it's like the 1% of the planet actually subscribes to it.
And so they're just bilking those customers.
They don't care about the mass audience anymore.
tim pool
Lesbian space switches made the force, and when you join the dark side, your lightsaber turns red like a hard-on.
tony kinnett
There's an excellent series called Every Frame a Pause by this guy named Mahler and Rags, and they go through all of these shows frame by frame, hence Every Frame a Pause.
EFAP is phenomenal.
Great guys.
Rags has been on the show before.
They really have pointed out like the whole lesbian like fetish with Star Wars like way back in like the beginning of The Last Jedi, like how everything was just all about this really weird, awful writing and lesbians.
Because it's not just theater majors.
It's also theater majors and lesbians because, you know, clearly that's what all great media revolves around.
tim pool
Well, their brand is cooked, but we do got to call her.
Big Joe, what is up?
Welcome to the show.
phil labonte
What's up, man?
unidentified
Thank you for having me on.
You're welcome.
My question for the panel is with Trump threatening to go into – or bring the National Guard into Chicago and other major cities and this Ukrainian woman being killed on the train in – I can't think where it is.
tony kinnett
Charlotte.
unidentified
Either way, Charlotte.
Anyway, with that going on, why isn't the FBI being sent in to take care of these people to begin with instead of the National Guard?
Or I'm sorry, why is President Trump sending in the National Guard and not – or wanting to send in the National Guard and not the FBI?
libby emmons
Well, he's sending in the National Guard basically to protect the law enforcement officers who are trying to do immigration enforcement.
That's sort of the capacity in which he's sending in National Guard.
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