Aug. 23, 2025 - Timcast IRL - Tim Pool
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| The FBI raided John Bolton's house today over suspected classified documents. | ||
| So it seems like everyone that's ever been in the federal government has decided that classified documents are actually their documents and they're going to take them home. | ||
| So we'll talk about that. | ||
| Ghislaine Maxwell said Epstein didn't kill himself. | ||
| So that adds her voice to the chorus of people that have said the same thing. | ||
| We'll get into that a little bit. | ||
| Kilmar Obrego Garcia has been released from federal custody in Tennessee. | ||
| He has not been. | ||
| He has been sent to Maryland, but he but he hasn't been deported. | ||
| I don't know why, so we'll complain about that. | ||
| And then the Feds kind of decided they're going to go ahead and nationalize Intel, like ten percent of it. | ||
| I don't know if that's a good idea, but maybe it is. | ||
| We'll talk about it. | ||
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| Hey, Phil, thanks for being here today. | ||
| First time, long time listener, first time caller, great to be in the studio. | ||
| I'm William Wolfe. | ||
| I'm the executive director of the Center for Baptist Leadership. | ||
| We're trying to make baptists great again, make America Christian again. | ||
| I want to give a shout out to my wonderful wife Lauren and my three boys, Evan, Jack and Daniel, who I think are watching live at home right now. | ||
| Awesome, thank you for joining us. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And you've spent a lot of time in DC, like you've been deep within. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Ten years in Washington, DC, worked for three different members of Congress, worked for Heritage Action, and was a political pointee in the first Trump administration at State and DOD. | ||
| I say I did 45 for 45. | ||
| I was in for almost all four years. | ||
| Honor of a lifetime. | ||
| Good to meet you, man. | ||
| I'm Ian Crossell. | ||
| Happy to be here. | ||
| I'm an actor, social media entrepreneur, been in social media since 1998. | ||
| I was realizing last night when we started doing I started building email chains for my high school friends in college to keep us all connected through social media. | ||
| Then we went to classmates dot com, we got into friendster dot com, my space, Facebook, YouTube, the list goes on. | ||
| Now let's make our own. | ||
| Libby. | ||
| I'm Libby Emmons. | ||
| I'm here from the Postmillennial and Human Events. | ||
| Glad to be here. | ||
| Let's get into it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So we're going to start off with this about John Bolton from the AP. | ||
| FBI searches home and office of exe Ex Trump National Security Advisor John Bolton. | ||
| The FBI on Friday searched the Maryland home and Washington office of Ex Trump Administration National Security Advisor John Bolton as part of a criminal investigation into the potential mishandling of classified information, a person familiar with the matter said. | ||
| Bolton, who emerged as a spoken critic of Donald Trump after being fired in 2019 and fought with the first Trump administration over a scathing book he wrote documenting his time in the White House, was not in custody Friday and has not been charged with any crimes, said the person who is not authorized to discuss the investigation by name and spoke to the Associated Press on the condition of anonymity. | ||
| The search is apparently the most significant public step the Justice Department has taken against a perceived enemy of the president are likely to elicit fresh concerns that the Trump administration is using its law enforcement powers to target the Republican folks. | ||
| I can hardly even say that without chuckling considering how they targeted Donald Trump when he was out of office. | ||
| They go on to say they come they come as the Trump administration has moved to examine the activities of other critics including by authorizing a grand jury investigation into the origins of the Trump Russia probe that dogged Trump that dogged much Trump for much of his first term and as FBI and justice department leaders signal their loyalty to the president. | ||
| So this is I mean, it's nice to see, right? | ||
| If if he's actually violated the law which they're you know doing an investigation.ation that's perfectly on the up and up. | ||
| It's nice to see that the Trump administration, the DOJ, is actually applying pressure to people that have been not just critical, but they've had questionable dealings with the administration previously. | ||
| Do you guys think that this is actually going to materialize in anything considering that Bolton himself is not even under arrest or I'm not even sure if there's anything more than just searching his house now. | ||
| You want to take it away? | ||
| Yeah, well I'd say, John Bolton has never met an invasion he didn't like. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Until this morning when the FBI showed up at his home, right? | ||
| And really what's happening here is they're picking up. | ||
| This Trump administration is picking up on a former Trump administration Department of Justice investigation into Bolton's potential leakage handling of classified information in his book. | ||
| I just have to say the irony is really thick because when Trump was getting, you know, what raided and, you know, prosecuted for his handling of classified information, which he's a president and he can do, John Bolton said, well, Trump is very careless with this information. | ||
| So I guess we're about to find out who's really careless now. | ||
| Yeah, if this is, if I understand correctly, this is pertaining to, like, William said, his book. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That was questionable in the first place when the book was released, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, there were some concerns early on. | ||
| This is something Jack Sobik and I were talking about today. | ||
| There were concerns early on in 2020 that when he released his book, perhaps he had used classified information to construct that book, which was called The Room Where It Happens, which I think is funny because he basically ripped that off from Hamilton because that's, you know, that's Aaron Burr's song in the show. | ||
| I love the show, but whatever. | ||
| So there were concerns about that that it had been leaked while it was still in pre-publication, leaked to the New York Times. | ||
| And there were also concerns that he was every night apparently taking notes from his classified documents at the office and taking those notes home. | ||
| So I think that it's, you know, I think it's certainly interesting to see what will happen with this. | ||
| There's also arguments to be made that, you know, maybe there are too many classified documents. | ||
| You know, this is something that we've heard Tucker Carlson say over the years, maybe there's too many classified documents. | ||
| But also, I was watching MSNBC today looking for something. | ||
| And this woman was talking about how, you know, it's rich for Trump to be talking about classified documents since he had absconded with them. | ||
| And she didn't mention at all that, of course, there's the Pres Presidential Records Act and the president can take classified documents and every president has taken classified documents. | ||
| I mean, there's even the Bill Clinton Socks case about how, you know, the president can keep classified documents in his sock drawer if he so chooses. | ||
| But yeah, I think that I think it'll be interesting to see how it plays out and also this is a case that this is not a new case. | ||
| So to say that this is an intentional political prosecution now, this was a case that the Trump DOJ brought in 2020 and the Biden DOJ dropped it. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| It's like bringing it back. | ||
| When Bolton's book was coming out, they made her pass. | ||
| They made a pass at blocking it, right? | ||
| And it didn't, it didn't go through. | ||
| The judge didn't grant them that. | ||
| But, you know, Bolton's book, not only was it incredibly negative towards the president, again, Bolton thinks something like diplomacy is a dirty word. | ||
| He'd rather drop bombs instead of having talks. | ||
| But this does raise the question of classified information. | ||
| Classified information is this sort of currency in Washington, DC, right? | ||
| Everybody loves to get and leak classified information and everybody does it. | ||
| I mean, both sides do it. | ||
| Republicans do it. | ||
| Democrats do it. | ||
| And how it's going to be weaponized is a question here. | ||
| But Bolton is again coming face to face with the fact that no matter how much he wants to be, he is not. | ||
| He's not and will never be the president and Donald Trump has been and is. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know, you guys mentioned the overclassification. | ||
| I think that's kind of typical of DC, if I understand correctly. | ||
| And it's because they don't want people to ask questions or they at least don't want to have to answer questions. | ||
| So the more the bureaucracy can actually get classified, the better they like it because they can just, you know, brush off questions they don't have to answer. | ||
| And then if they, if there's ever a time where their feet are held to the fire, they can just say, well, look, it's classified. | ||
| I can't talk about it. | ||
| You know, and it's not, it's not my, my fault. | ||
| I'm not trying to hide anything. | ||
| It's just that this is a class, this is classified information. | ||
| They also pulled Bolton's security clearance and they did that in January. | ||
| And so this government, this administration is tightening things up. | ||
| And I think that makes a lot of sense because how sick are you of opening some story from the AP or wherever else that says unnamed, unauthorized sources, you know, familiar with the matter who are unauthorized to speak on it. | ||
| And so they're speaking with anonymity. | ||
| Like this is something that, you know, when you're reporting on things, you keep looking at this and you're like, why do I believe you and your weird fake sources? | ||
| Who are these people? | ||
| does the amount of classified information and how readily it's leaked by someone that just doesn't have to say their name, does that turn classified information into a currency? | ||
| Does it make it something that people can look at and say, well, I can get favor with this particular media outlet or what have you? | ||
| Well, yeah, not just a currency, but also a weapon. | ||
| Like what you were just saying is that, you know, they can, I mean, Trump has been now in almost a decade long battle against the deep state who have primarily used intelligence agencies, so called classified information, falsified classified reports, the whole Russia gate. | ||
| hoax to attack him and undercut him. | ||
| And so, look, I mean, I trust that Bondi and Cash Patel are doing the right thing here. | ||
| They wouldn't, they wouldn't be doing this just to try to get back on John Bolton of all the bad actors out there. | ||
| I mean, he's a bad one, but there's worse ones. | ||
| So I would assume they have a legitimate reason to pick up on this investigation. | ||
| But that said, it is, it is nice to see the Trump administration going after the really bad actors from the first admin. | ||
| To your point, like John Bolton as a bad actor, it's really more people saying they have a policy difference, you know, different approach than John Bolton who, yes, I mean. | ||
| Mr. Bolton, who yes, I mean, you made it clear that he's a hawkish kind of guy and he thinks that flexing American military might is the best type of foreign policy. | ||
| But that's different to someone like, say, Schiff, who was literally lying about Donald Trump, lying about what information was out there regarding the Russia probe, lying to not just to make people think that Trump was guilty of something that he hadn't done, but to actually try to get some kind of legal ramifications on the president. | ||
| In that, along that line, you'd think that maybe that classified information, if it's accidentally taken home. | ||
| would be treated much less of a crime than if someone's maliciously utilizing it to or using fake, classifying something that's not real or saying they got, you know. | ||
| Do you think that this stuff that we've heard has been accidentally taken home generally? | ||
| I mean, we got No, I don't know what the Biden and his I don't think Bolton does anything accidentally. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think a lot of it has been people want to write their books, right? | ||
| Like Obama took stuff home to write his book. | ||
| Biden took stuff home to write his book. | ||
| This guy, Bolton took stuff home, you know, probably to write his book. | ||
| And I think that's what, that's a lot of what it is. | ||
| When stuff gets like this, this is how politicians get rich from their time. | ||
| in office. | ||
| Oh, selling secrets? | ||
| Million dollars. | ||
| They sell their books. | ||
| If it's like slipped in a box when they're carrying their stuff out and then it lands in their garage, that is like much less of a crime. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| With Biden, with Biden, it was boxes and boxes of documents. | ||
| It wasn't like just one classified document and then everything else was fine. | ||
| What was it with Trump at Marlago? | ||
| Trump was it was stuff that he took home, but he was the president. | ||
| He has the right to declassify things and presidents take stuff home. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's like what presidents do. | ||
| And then what happened was the FBI, when they were framing up their case, they literally framed up their case. | ||
| They put in cover sheets. | ||
| They took all this stuff and organized it in specific ways for their own purposes and took photographs of it. | ||
| They were essentially tampering with evidence to try and sway the public towards the idea that Trump had absconded illegally with classified documents. | ||
| Like they unsecured the evidence and then took pictures of it in an unsecured state. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Playing that he well, they staged it to make it worse than it was. | ||
| Yeah, they staged it. | ||
| So I think two points on the Bolton thing, Phil, I think what's going on here with Bolton is not just policy differences, it's that Bolton uses this information, I think, in a particularly malicious way to malign and undercut Donald Trump in his memoirs. | ||
| And in that sense, it's not just a policy difference, but it really is this ongoing and hopefully nearing an end struggle between the last gasp of the neocons who view Donald Trump, rightly so, as a repudiation of multi decades of their failed foreign policy. | ||
| So it's not just a policy disagreement. | ||
| They want to try to put a stake in the heart of MAGA if they can. | ||
| And then the second thing I would say too is that, look, I appreciate that in many ways we're going tit for tat because we're either going to have equal justice under the law or we're going to have a two tier justice system. | ||
| We're only Republicans or only Donald Trump, you know, or only Trump's associates get prosecuted and persecuted for these things. | ||
| So it's good to see it going the other way. | ||
| So to your point about trying to put a stake in the heart of MAGA or whatever, or a fight between MAGA and neocons. | ||
| I think that it's fairly obvious that the neocons are just going over to the Democratic Party, whether it be John Bolton or Bill Crystal or any of the guys at the Lincoln Project, they're all Democrats now, and even if they haven't officially changed their parties, they are they're not just people like Joe Walsh, they're not just, you know, saying I'm a Republican or a Conservative and Donald Trump isn't a Conservative. | ||
| They're actually promoting policies that the Democrats promote, right? | ||
| And whether that have nothing to do with, with, with, with the Democrats. | ||
| with Donald Trump, right? | ||
| Or that have nothing to do with conservatism. | ||
| I saw Joe Walsh posting about very pro immigration kind of things, like he's wrong to deport people. | ||
| And when you when you're doing that kind of stuff as a Republican or as a former Republican, you're you're definitely not a Republican. | ||
| It's not even a rhino situation. | ||
| It's you're actually aligning with the Democrats because you don't like Donald Trump. | ||
| Yeah, well, David French voted for Kamala Harris to save conservatism from itself, whatever that means. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it's ridiculous. | ||
| All of them are going down this path. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so I think that it's more about trying to stay in the good graces of the bureaucracy in Washington than it is about having any kind of principled ideas that are conservative, you know, based in conservatism. | ||
| Well, there's a huge, there's a huge sort of disagreement about what conservatism is at this point, right? | ||
| Because you have some like, what's conservatism? | ||
| It's the idea of conserving things. | ||
| And you have a situation now where most conservatives are really opposed to the conservation of American institutions that have been so poisoned by leftism that they're basically useless. | ||
| And so the establishment conservatives are like, oh, we still how could you say that there's something wrong with the Smithsonian? | ||
| It's like, well, it's whiteness. | ||
| is the root of all evil, so kind of there's something wrong with it because it's racial. | ||
| Look, open your eyes to that. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| But so I think that that is a big split. | ||
| And so the conservatives who are like, oh, Harvard is still amazing and it's still a bastion of American educational supremacy, which it kind of just isn't anymore, those conservatives are going to align themselves with Kamala Harris. | ||
| Those conservatives are going to align themselves with Forever Wars, which is how, you know, all of these places stay funded anyway. | ||
| And then the conservatives who want to actually preserve like American supremacy and American exceptionalism and want to make sure that the United States is a prosperous home for our children's future, that's kind of a different kind of conservatism now than the history of what we've had for the past fifty years. | ||
| You want to conserve American Republicanism, Democratic Republicanism in that you want to preserve the ability of the people to choose their candidate. | ||
| And Kamala Harris was thrust upon us by the Industrial Order. | ||
| You would say the Democratic Party is not conservative at all, which is like, lol, of course. | ||
| But if they call themselves neoconservative, it's just a fake word they're using to mask their behavior. | ||
| If they're supporting a person that was put into power, like the super delegate system in the Democratic Party is an aberration of our system. | ||
| We're supposed to select our candidates. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is very antithetical to the system right now. | ||
| Anyway, Libby, I think you make a great point there too that ties directly to the Bolton thing. | ||
| And you can, you can even see it in this recent back and forth between Chris Rufo and Jonah Goldberg where Chris Rufo is saying, look, I'm going to use these tactics to subvert and destroy the left who have corrupted our institutions. | ||
| And even if it's messy, even if it's ugly, and Jonah Goldberg was like, well, what exactly are you conserving here? | ||
| And Rufo was like, well, what have you conserved? | ||
| Which is a great point here. | ||
| But I think, you know, the old school neocon conservatism would have said something like, even if Bolton. | ||
| misused, mishandled, was careless with classified information because of muh norms and muh decency, you just have to ignore it. | ||
| And Trump is like, no, if he broke the law, even if it looks like I'm quoting, quoting, doing a little political retribution here, that's how they'll spin it, I'm going to do it, like I have the power and you don't. | ||
| And so I think it really comes down to this new class of conservatives reckoning with how to rightly and in some ways unapologetically wield power for the good of the country. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And you also have a situation where Democrats under the Biden administration did all of these things. | ||
| They persecuted Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro. | ||
| They put these men in jail, you know, and they went after who they perceived as political enemies of the Democrats repeatedly. | ||
| They went after Trump over and over again. | ||
| In Georgia, didn't they indict like nineteen people? | ||
| They claimed that the Trump campaign was a was like a REGO operation that it was intended to be a criminal enterprise, which is absolutely insane, you know? | ||
| They couldn't even get Diddy on that. | ||
| Like that's ludicrous. | ||
| And so I think that what happened now, what's happening now is Trump is like and the Trump administration, okay, you made new rules. | ||
| We're going to follow the new rules. | ||
| I wasn't in favor of the new rules that as they were made under Biden. | ||
| I'm not super in favor of them now, but like these are the rules now, you guys, you stupid idiots. | ||
| And now you're going to suffer the consequences of your own stupid idiot rules. | ||
| 88 felony charges at least pursued against Trump. | ||
| Many of them dropped, but others, you know, prosecuted all the way through, dozens of his associates rolled up over the last four years. | ||
| Not just associates, his lawyers, right? | ||
| Like in the United States, you're supposed to have your you have the right to counsel and they went after his lawyers for defending him. | ||
| That's incredibly easy. | ||
| That's exactly. | ||
| That's really, really that's kind of where it stops being about just getting. | ||
| people that they believe broke the law and they're literally punishing people for associating with Donald Trump, specifically, again, his lawyers, which is a constitutionally protected right. | ||
| You have the right to counsel. | ||
| And when the federal government not goes after your lawyers and indicts your lawyers and and accuses them of being part of a criminal enterprise just because they're defending you, that's going out of what is constitutionally, you know, what, what's constitutionally legal. | ||
| You know, what really concerns me is that maybe this, not that this happened, but the potential that the Democratic Party or whoever did broke the law, incited, did these things, went after political opponents. | ||
| in order to incite the other side to do it back to them so that we set a precedent now that as this new world order is coagulating, this is how the order is going to be. | ||
| You step out of line, you're going to prison, whatever that line is, and I'm the one drawing the line. | ||
| That's the stuff that happens in banana republics. | ||
| Like, that was one of the things that people Yeah, like we heard about this and you're right, you're you're totally right. | ||
| Like I agree. | ||
| That's what happens in third world countries. | ||
| The United States used to be above that stuff, but the behavior of the Democratic Party in response to Donald Trump, actually I think honestly, in response to realizing that they didn't have a permanent hold on the federal government when Barack Obama. | ||
| It could have been anyone other than it could have been anyone famous that people would have thought of the Trump role, you're right. | ||
| But the point that I'm making is I think that once, when Barack Obama was elected, the Democrats actually thought that they had a permanent, they thought they had it forever. | ||
| They thought that forever they were going to have a one party system, the Republicans were going to be a regional party and the real game was going to be who's going to win the Democrat primary because whoever wins that Democrat primary was automatically going to win. | ||
| And when they realized they didn't because Donald Trump won, they literally freaked out. | ||
| And instead of saying, how do we adjust our message? | ||
| How do we make sure that our next candidate is better than the Republican candidate? | ||
| How do we do this? | ||
| What they did was we need to use the ele levers of power that we still have access to in the federal government. | ||
| We need to use those levers of power to smear Donald Trump, do everything we can to put him in prison and make anyone that would try to run against us, fear for their freedom. | ||
| Make sure that they understand, if you try to challenge us, we are going to put you in jail. | ||
| And thank God it didn't work. | ||
| But they said that was the goal. | ||
| They said that repeatedly. | ||
| You could hear it. | ||
| Joe Biden, you know, thought that Trump would be in prison by the time the election rolled around. | ||
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That a lot of people Or someone told Joe Biden to think that. | |
| Well, yes. | ||
| Someone told him to say it. | ||
| I don't know if he thought anything. | ||
| Like he was, you know, poor man'ss a disaster. | ||
| They should have taken better care of that fellow in that family. | ||
| They should have torn out. | ||
| I'm going back and disagree with that. | ||
| Just the fact that. | ||
| Yeah, go ahead, good. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So I don't think they're doing it. | ||
| I don't think the Democrats did this to incite a reaction that would give them the ability to do something as a reaction to their action. | ||
| I think that this is how they've been fundamentally as a party for a long time. | ||
| They've been a post institutionalist party. | ||
| They actually don't care about our institutions. | ||
| They don't care about the procedures. | ||
| They don't care about norms. | ||
| They pretend to, but they care about power. | ||
| Just pure naked will to power stuff. | ||
| And I think when, you know, when Donald Trump ran and won in 2016 against all odds, it was a huge shock to the system. | ||
| And they said, what do we need to do to make sure this never happens again? | ||
| And so they did everything they could to ensure that, you know, some people might even say they released, you know, a worldwide pandemic to get him out of office in 2020 and then the law fair and then the assassination attempt. | ||
| And so now he's back against all odds in office again. | ||
| And so I think that they are realizing actually for the first time that the tables are being turned against them and they're not one hundred percent sure what to do with it. | ||
| So my point there is that I don't think it was they were trying to incite us to do the same thing. | ||
| I think Republicans are waking up to really and Trump in particular, not all Republicans, it's Trump. | ||
| I mean, look at what look at what happened when Trump got arrested in Georgia. | ||
| I mean, there were a lot of Republicans who didn't stand with him because a lot of Republicans were hoping that this actually was the end of the Trump. | ||
| I think they were hoping that it was a mix of hoping that it was the end of Trump, but also being afraid because there were a lot of people that had been Trump, you know, Trump allies that had already been put in jail and had already been through the ringer, you know. | ||
| So I think that I think you're right. | ||
| It was they were cowardly, but it wasn't just that they were hoping that Trump was gone, it was that they were terrified of the Democrats. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so I think we are finally realizing that it's much more of a no holds, barred knife fight than we ever thought it was. | ||
| And Trump realizes that more than most Republicans do. | ||
| The liberal economy, it seems like the Democratic Party is the American, you know, vestige of the liberal economic order, which is essentially run by, you know, the British king. | ||
| I don't know who's running it. | ||
| The British emperor, I should say, because he's the king of Australia. | ||
| He's the king of Canada. | ||
| He's the king of England. | ||
| So he has a lot of kingdoms that makes him an emperor and the British Empire they've rebranded in 1998, you know, whatever they now call themselves a Commonwealth, but it seems like they tried to use their imperial authority to thrust not only Kamala Harris on us, but just use power to destroy American will and scare us into submission. | ||
| And the people didn't, Trump didn't bow down, the people didn't bow down, people stayed loud, the internet allowed us to get our word of independence out. | ||
| And it's sort of like if we can, because what's happening is this new world order is being created in front of us and the British, the people want top-down authority, they want to make sure it's static and it's ordered. | ||
| And the American revolutionary system is chaotic in a lot of ways. | ||
| You know, we self governance, you don't necessarily. | ||
| live like your neighbor lives. | ||
| And I think it's an opportunity now to kind of push American democratic republicanism on the world in a way that they want it, in a way that they see it is the best system on Earth. | ||
| That's why Jeff Bezos was able to create Amazon in the United States. | ||
| I kind of disagree with that. | ||
| I think that different cultures and different people want different things, and I think that Iraq was a good, was a good evidence of that. | ||
| Like we thought that, or at least the argument was made that when we went into Iraq we would be greeted as liberators and that the Iraqi people would want and embrace democracy. | ||
| That didn't happen at all. | ||
| And it's not because of anything that the United States did. | ||
| It's because the people in Iraq don don't want that kind of government. | ||
| They don't like it. | ||
| And I think that's something that's, you know, around the world, the different types of governments that are, that exist are largely because the people want it. | ||
| I want, I think what the most important aspects of what I want the world to adopt is freedom of speech, gun rights and property rights. | ||
| Yeah, those, those things don't exist in the world because the people, like, the people just don't desire them enough. | ||
| And they don't because they don't, they've never experienced it. | ||
| Once you experience it, there's no going back. | ||
| No, no, I disagree. | ||
| Jesus wouldn't. | ||
| No, people are different, Ian. | ||
| Like, and not everyone thinks like a Western. | ||
| People are different. | ||
| People from different parts of the world experience life and the world differently. | ||
| In North Korea, for instance, Yunmei, was it Yunmei Park? | ||
| Escaped, North Korean deserter and said in they don't have a word for love in North Korea on purpose because they don't want people to understand the concept and they don't. | ||
| And until she got away and she was like, What? | ||
| But that's not to say that you could go into North Korea and change North Korea into Kansas. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's not going to happen. | ||
| But if they get a taste, you get a taste of freedom. | ||
| You get a taste. | ||
| I strongly disagree because, like, go ahead. | ||
| You're going to know what you mean. | ||
| I was going to say, we tried to give the Afghans quite a bit of a taste of freedom and twenty years later they, they decided they wanted the Taliban back instead. | ||
| I mean, so Ian, I think what you're getting at there too is that the western order, western civilization, I mean, look, this is what I talk about, right, is the intersection of Christianity and politics in many ways. | ||
| It is rooted in and grounded in Christianity and even concepts like freedom of speech and ordered liberty and representative government. | ||
| A lot of this is drawn from the Christian tradition. | ||
| You can argue to certain things from natural law as well. | ||
| But yeah, I mean, you're right. | ||
| I mean, I think like you give people like freedom of speech and property rights. | ||
| A lot of people will want it, but it's also going to be contextualized to their situation, to their situation, to their cultures, to their history, to their religion, which plays a big part of it. | ||
| And I actually think, again, to bring this back to Bolton, like one of the failures of American foreign policy over the last many decades was this idea that we could just go around and sort of export americanism anywhere in the globe. | ||
| It's actually, honestly, it's been one of the biggest hubris of the American world order since World War two in many ways. | ||
| Like you have, you have, we also have this big problem where you have so many people in the world who do want americanism coming to America, right? | ||
| And then we end up with overflow here and we end up with a lot of illegal immigration. | ||
| So I think that there's certainly a lot of potenti people in the world who want what they think we have to offer, and that's fair, but I think that there should be incentives for those people to stay in their own countries and make those places more attractive. | ||
| Do you think that people want the things that America do you think that people want the freedom that America offers, or do you think that they want the security that America offers in comparison to just like the stuff? | ||
| Wait, wait, wait. | ||
| In comparison to their home places and the benefits that the government, because that's my sense, right? | ||
| People that come here, they're not coming here because they are actually looking to become American and they're not saying I think it's both. | ||
| I think it's both. | ||
| I certainly think it's both. | ||
| When you have people coming, you know, from different places in the world, everyone has their different reasons. | ||
| I think we have a lot of people who have come here recently who want the security and the stuff and the three thousand dollars a month for housing. | ||
| And that's a big problem. | ||
| I mean, you can't have open borders and benefits for everyone, that's just not something that's sustainable. | ||
| But I do think that, I mean, as an American, as an American who grew up with the idea of American exceptionalism, you know, my parents arguing around the dinner table about which of the two candidates to choose, I believe it was Reagan or Mondale when I was a kid, this is what they were arguing about. | ||
| Phil knows. | ||
| I still know, but I do, I do, absolutely. | ||
| Well, actually, there wasn't really argument in my house, but I've been in the room. | ||
| there was only argument in my house. | ||
| But anyway, I definitely want America to be a beacon of freedom and liberty. | ||
| I want us to be, you know, I want us to have a lot of cool stuff and opportunity and opportunity for everyone in the world who wants to come here and do something cool. | ||
| Like, that's awesome, right? | ||
| Elon Musk is a guy with a lot of vision. | ||
| He wants to enact that vision in the US. | ||
| I don't agree with all his vision, but that's totally not the point. | ||
| And there's a ton of people like that. | ||
| And I think that's really worthwhile. | ||
| And that's something, I mean, that's definitely something I want as an American and that's something that I envision as something that's American, that are like American values. | ||
| You're reinforcing my desire to spread freedom of speech around the globe because we can't have everybody come here. | ||
| It just doesn't work. | ||
| I understand what you're saying. | ||
| And I kind of agree with you, but not in a military aspect. | ||
| No, not in a military aspect. | ||
| Like, if you remember, if you think about the Soviet Union, right, like people in the Soviet Union wanted Beatles records and blue jeans. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Like, get Beatles records and blue jeans. | ||
| Like, look at Europe. | ||
| Cultural exports are huge. | ||
| Yeah, but guys, look, you look at Europe right now and like, the freedom of speechch is being taken away from those people, largely, and not, I don't know if it's a majority, but largely with the consent of the people. | ||
| So it's not the idea that we can just say, hey, look, we've got this great idea in the United States, and you guys should try it. | ||
| That, like, there's not a place on earth, or there are very few places on earth that don't have a conceptualization of what the freedom of speech in the United States is like. | ||
| No, they just don't have that in the UK. | ||
| I know they don't, but the point that I'm making is, the point that I'm making is, most of the world understands, and they have rejected that intentionally. | ||
| So this to my point, you can't just say, hey, you should have what you should want what we want, because they basically, especially in a global world that we have now, like we're not, we're not isolated nations like we used to be fifty years ago. | ||
| The internet has really brought, you know, made the world much smaller. | ||
| Most of the world at least has a conception of what it's like in the United States and what freedom of speech means here. | ||
| And most of the world has rejected that. | ||
| And some places are going backwards, like Canada, like our neighbor to the north, Canada, the UK, all over Europe, they're going backwards. | ||
| They're not going to keep offering it culturally. | ||
| That's fine, but the point that I'm making is we can't make people want something. | ||
| No, and you're woke. | ||
| And what it sounds like Gina is saying is we should do what we can to export these ideas, but we've already done that. | ||
| No, but we can't help ourselves. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| We're going to keep growing, we're going to keep getting bigger, we're going to keep creating, you know, I think we're moving in a better direction as regards our art forms. | ||
| You know, I think we're getting films back a little bit. | ||
| I think these things are going to move back in the other direction. | ||
| They're going to be a little less woke. | ||
| I think that's what's happening. | ||
| I have faith that that's what's happening. | ||
| And I don't think that those things are going to stay within the boundaries of the United States. | ||
| I think it's a terrible idea to go out there with our troops and go around and be like, here's, you know, here's abortions for Africa. | ||
| We're USAID. | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| And you also had problems with the US Institutes for Peace telling the Taliban to stop eradicating opium production, right? | ||
| Because they said that was bad globally. | ||
| So we have to get our shit together. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| We have to get ourselves together. | ||
| But I do think that what we have to offer the world is still paramount to anything else that the world has out there on its own. | ||
| Okay, if I could pull the let's pull the camera back out and look at the screen. | ||
| Do you not think so? | ||
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Do you not think so? | |
| I don't think I disagree with you. | ||
| But I kind of want to maybe take a middle groundund here, right? | ||
| Okay, so what we're talking about is, in some ways, the difference between the developed and the undeveloped or developing world, right? | ||
| So in the developed world, think like China, Russia, Europe, the United States, more or less, right? | ||
| So in Europe and the United States, everything you're talking about here, Libby, really is the heritage of Western civilization. | ||
| I'm a big supporter of Western civilization. | ||
| Amen. | ||
| And so when you were bringing up, you know, like our fight with the Soviet Union, it made me think of Voice of America. | ||
| Like Voice of America was originally like a positive American propaganda thing that we were trying to blast in behind the Iron Curtaintain. | ||
| And so as if you look at, you know, if you look at Africa, India, South America, it's not so much that those countries, they have varying degrees of like, I guess, there's some authoritarian, but there's a lot of freedom of speech. | ||
| I mean, Sam Altman was just on a podcast saying that their biggest user, their second biggest user block for chat for, you know, AI is in India. | ||
| So India actually does have a decent amount of freedom of speech. | ||
| South America has a decent amount of freedom of speech. | ||
| Africa is a real mix depending on what you're looking at there. | ||
| Where we're losing freedom of speech is fundamentally in former nations that embraced it because of this virus of wokeness. | ||
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Did you see the thing aggressive? | |
| The way the guy got arrested for saying we love bacon outside of the site of a future mosque. | ||
| There's not even a mosque there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
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Right. | |
| And so it's like, what? | ||
| We're committing suicide. | ||
| We're not loving bacon. | ||
| We put up a video last night of people of the English flying the English flag and they're wearing masks in order to fly the flag of England in England. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like they're actually Yeah, they're actually putting a scanner in your eyes. | ||
| You're looking at a pothole. | ||
| And they're painting the English flag in potholes. | ||
| So that way the potholes get fixed because the magistrates will say that's the English flag that might offend people when they're in. | ||
| We have the Pakistani flags, the Hamas flags, all these flags get to be. | ||
| So Libby, if I were to disagree with you on anything, I would just say it's almost a little bit too idealistic right now because what has happened is what we have actually exported around the globe for the last twenty plus years has been a global woke censorship. | ||
| Yes, Joe, I agree with you. | ||
| And so it's like, we exported that like crazy into the UK and Germany and all these ridiculous places that now have, like, trans Nazi prisoners in women's jails. | ||
| Like, it's out of control. | ||
| So I think to get to what you want really kind of is we need to work on our. | ||
| America needs some me time. | ||
| We need to work on ourselves. | ||
| But I don't think that we should ever like the fact that we have not met our ideals and met our expectations for American greatness is not a reason to discard them and it's not a reason to keep trying. | ||
| I think I am hopeful and maybe I'm wrong. | ||
| Maybe I'm just a goofy optimist about this. | ||
| But I am hopeful that the past 25 years or so since kind of 911 when we've really lost our way and started blaming ourselves for being attacked, I think that I am hopeful that the last 25 years are an aberration and that we get our patriotic spirit back. | ||
| This is one of the only countries in the world where you go to it and like, you wander down the street and everybody's got flags out, you know? | ||
| I mean, even in Brooklyn, when I lived in Brooklyn, like, there were streets where everyone had flags out. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, that's not common everywhere else in the world. | ||
| We love this country so much. | ||
| And I I guess I'm really hopeful that this new administration has given me some hope, right? | ||
| I mean, we're getting a gift shop in the White House. | ||
| That's so great. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, I know that sounds silly, but that's such a glorious capitalist democratic thing that we're doing, a gift shop in the White House. | ||
| We should, how did we not have that? | ||
| Sometimes you, when we're in it, you're in it, you can't see it. | ||
| This is, this is, I feel like we're getting there. | ||
| I feel like we're getting to accomplish it. | ||
| It's happened in this country. | ||
| This is one of the top political shows on the planet. | ||
| This show we're on right now. | ||
| And Joe Rogan, like, that didn't exist, couldn't have existed twenty years ago. | ||
| We, we, we were bombarded with the global culture after the internet appeared. | ||
| And then we suffered for twenty years in almost like American dazed idealism, like not really like what the guys in the 1850s laying down steel did. | ||
| We were just now on our computers just accepting. | ||
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| They didn't. | ||
| We're not doing that anymore. | ||
| I see what you're saying. | ||
| And you're making a lot of sense. | ||
| And I know that you agree with me. | ||
| Yeah, it's funny. | ||
| I don't really think that I'm arguing with you. | ||
| I guess I'm just so I actually think that okay because you just think we need a little isolation. | ||
| Well, no, no, no. | ||
| We're ratcheting up. | ||
| I mean, I think things really hang in the balance. | ||
| And again, I fundamentally believe that the path to the renewal of the West, of Europe, of America is, you know, sort of a return to the founding faith of these I totally agree. | ||
| These great civilizations, the Christianity, we need revival, repentance, renewal. | ||
| But I actually think that if it's Gavin Newsom in 2028, he's the worst. | ||
| This show could be shut down. | ||
| He is so tired. | ||
| I mean, I think we realize that, right? | ||
| But it's like I told people, you know, so as a Christian, I believe in the sovereignty of God and of all things. | ||
| But I was concerned as we were heading into the 2024 election because of, you know, I'm not near the level of the people on this show, but just because of my outspoken, you know, political activism that if Kamala Harris won, you know, maybe one day in the near future I would get a knock on my door, maybe not a knock, maybe a no knock raid. | ||
| Like that was a legitimate fear, I think that I had. | ||
| And so, so Trump's won again. | ||
| And I think right now what I'm trying to say is we're in this situation, the American political experiment where for a while yet still it's sort of the stakes could not be higher as we ratchet back and forth essentially to get to everything. | ||
| you want and you want and I want, we need to rush the left for the next twenty years. | ||
| In a way that they that is not perceived because the, basically, I think when you say the left, I think of communism. | ||
| I think of the CCP as like the ultimate form of the left on Earth right now. | ||
| So you want to, you want to, it'll come back to me. | ||
| Okay, well, we're going to jump to this story because we want to crush gay race communism. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Fully automated gay race communism. | ||
| Okay, we're going to jump to this story from the post millennialal, Ghislaine Maxwell said Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself. | ||
| She and along with literally everybody else on the planet has said that. | ||
| Now, how true it is, I don't know. | ||
| But anyways, from the post millennial, in the release transcripts from the Department of Justice interview with Ghislaine Maxwell, whoa, said that she did not believe that her former friend, associate and lover died by suicide. | ||
| The revelation was made during her Tallahassee prison interview with assistant AG Todd Blanche. | ||
| So you're going to tell us, Blanche said, what you believe, but just to I want to make sure I understand your basis for belief is kind of what you've read and seen and your knowledge of mister Epstein for the many years you knew him, right? | ||
| And actually, there's a third component, Maxwell said. | ||
| She went on to detail having experienced now the mismanagement and inefficiencies and total dereliction of duty at the Bureau of Prison prisons. | ||
| Okay, fair, okay. | ||
| So you know, I want to, what I do want to do is be careful about is, you know, asking you to speculate because anybody can do that, and I don't think it's fair to you or anybody else to ask you to give us your kind of opinion, Blanche said. | ||
| But do you think that the third point you say, which is kind of a failure by the BOP, there's been a lot of there's an SDNY report, there's SDNY investigation about that. | ||
| Do you so you think he was he didn't die by suicide given all the things we just talked about that that's like what it's put out I don't believe he died by suicide. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah, go and this is this was actually written by Libby. | ||
| So why don't you why don't you take it, Libby? | ||
| No, I wrote it. | ||
| It doesn't have to be Oh no, I'm sorry. | ||
| That's the tweet. | ||
| My bad. | ||
| My apologies. | ||
| I did write it. | ||
| Okay, well then go ahead. | ||
| Just out of your silly. | ||
| Oxed yourself live. | ||
| So, so go ahead and outline what the what you know, what what do you think that she's she's being folsom? | ||
| Do you think that she's actually telling the truth? | ||
| Or do you think that this is just her trying to get in the good graces of Donald Trump because she wants a pardon? | ||
| Well, she said that she didn't think think he killed himself, in part because it cost $25 in commissary to stage a hit on someone in prison. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| If you read all the way down. | ||
| Which is what she said, which I think that's a problem if that's what we have going on in prison. | ||
| $25 in commissary, not even like gold or something, but like, that's cheap. | ||
| That's cheap for a hit. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| I think a lot of people don't think that Epstein killed himself. | ||
| And I think it's kind of interesting that now we have Cash Patel saying that Epstein definitely killed himself. | ||
| You have Gillen Maxwell saying she doesn't think that he did. | ||
| You have a lot of people who still think that he didn't. | ||
| And I think this is a situation where we're never going to really know anything ever. | ||
| She also said in this interview that she never saw Trump do anything untoward, that he was always a gentleman, that he didn't do anything inappropriate with masseuses or anybody else. | ||
| And I do believe that that's true. | ||
| And I do believe that she believes that he didn't kill himself. | ||
| She ran a criminal sex trafficking ring for young women. | ||
| Why would you believe anything? | ||
| I don't necessarily I believe I would believe that Trump didn't do anything wrong, whether she said it or not. | ||
| Oh, you just argue. | ||
| I don't think he did anything wrong. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| I've seen pictures of him at parties with his arms around ladies with Epstein. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I don't think that he I don't think that he got with underage girls. | ||
| You grabbed them by the P. I don't think he got with underage girls. | ||
| I don't think that. | ||
| Do I think he was an international playboy doing whatever he wanted? | ||
| Yeah, but I don't think that he, you know, I don't think that he put his hands on a 17-year-old's boob. | ||
| I don't think that he, you know, had sex with underage girls. | ||
| I don't think that. | ||
| I don't think it, but I don't think he didn't. | ||
| I just don't think that he did. | ||
| Well, you know, to your point, look, I when all this story was breaking and with recently in the news, I was thankful that I'm not one of those people who has who has staked my career or my credibility on the Epstein. | ||
| I'm having a position I've I've hardly ever commented on it. | ||
| I obviously it's it's a massive issue. | ||
| I think though that it concerns me and I'm not saying I'm not saying you're wrong. | ||
| I'm not arguing with you, but I like that we'll never know the truth. | ||
| Yeah, I would like to know like I would like to think we can know the truth on this either way in one way, shape or form. | ||
| But I don't I don't know like I mean what like they won't release the the the the um, courts won't allow the release of any of the grand jury testimony. | ||
| Yeah, that was you have they've repeatedly refused to do that and this is from super lefty courts in in new york state that won't release it you have the maxwell testimony like everything that the doj has had in their possession to release other than like you know child porn they have they have released a lot of stuff how come they didn't release the testimony the court refused to release the testimony well did you hear how the reasoning | ||
| was i don't know yeah yeah i mean the but the doj has asked the courts repeatedly release the grand jury testimony and the courts have said no we don't see a reason to do that yeah i do i do wonder what maxwell's play here is too like. | ||
| Like, I certainly wouldn't. | ||
| I wouldn't necessarily trust her. | ||
| I realize, look, I mean, I'm a big fan of Donald Trump. | ||
| I I I understand that that statement here, like, looks good for Trump, right? | ||
| But I, like, I fundamentally wouldn't trust her. | ||
| And I mean, this, the underlying issue of this is such a wretched, like, moral issue, like, I do want to see, I want to see people held accountable for what happened to these girls, to, you know, and who's behind it. | ||
| I think we need to know. | ||
| I mean, I don't know if that requires leaking classified information. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But I, you know, I think, and I think they, I will say this, as I've watched all this unfold, if we can't get to the truth on this, like it just really just continues to undermine, you know, the credibility and public trust in the American judicial system. | ||
| That's really what's going on. | ||
| There's concerns about it, concerns about it for sure. | ||
| But I do think that the Trump administration is trying to do, I think they're trying to release everything that they're able to release. | ||
| The Trump administration sent someone to talk to Maxwell and then she came out with this statement. | ||
| Trump never did anything on toward and then she got moved to a minimum security prison. | ||
| It just seems like a favor. | ||
| It does. | ||
| She did get moved, but she hasn't got a pardon. | ||
| It just seems like a political favor. | ||
| Like she said, Trump, but then she said he didn't kill himself, which is flying in the face of Cash Patel. | ||
| So like they're like, you can say that part, but then say something nice about Trump and we'll move you to minus. | ||
| I think what she said is I think that what she was saying is an inference though, right? | ||
| She's inferring that he didn't. | ||
| She doesn't have any actual. | ||
| She said she believes that he didn't. | ||
| So she's saying because of what I know of him and what I've seen in the prison here, that I know that you can get someone killed for twenty five dollars worth of commissary stuff that I think because of all those things. | ||
| I think that he didn't kill himself. | ||
| So this isn't like she has some kind of statement of belief. | ||
| Yeah, it wasn't a statement of it's not like she has some kind of inf information that people, you know, that, that, that, that, evidence area assumption. | ||
| Yeah, it's not like there's some kind of information that the general public doesn't have. | ||
| This is just her saying, I know Jeffrey. | ||
| Jeffrey was state of mind at the time. | ||
| You know, I knew him. | ||
| And because I know what the, how much of a mess the, the correctional institutions are, this makes me believe that he did not kill himself. | ||
| But it's not actually like some kind of concrete statement that you could say, well, look, there, that's proof. | ||
| It's not proof. | ||
| It's just her inference, you know. | ||
| So even still, I don't think that, you know, whatever, I think whatever people have as a preconception.. | ||
| That's what they're going to fall back on with this, right? | ||
| They're going to say, okay, well, so she's saying that Donald Trump didn't do anything. | ||
| I hate Donald Trump. | ||
| So the reason she's saying Donald Trump didn't do anything is because Donald Trump, she wants a pardon from Donald Trump. | ||
| So that makes me believe even more strongly that Donald Trump did something bad. | ||
| And if you think that Donald Trump didn't do anything, you're going to say, well, she's a liar. | ||
| So I don't think Donald Trump did anything. | ||
| Like Libby said, I don't think Donald Trump did anything anyways. | ||
| I didn't think anything that he didn't think in the first place. | ||
| She's a liar. | ||
| So, you know, I don't think that, you know, I don't think that Donald Trump did anything. | ||
| I don't think that any of the information that she's giving out is actually of any value beyond what just information coming out, like I don't think that's going to change any minds. | ||
| No one's going to hear this and say, okay, that for me, that's the piece of information that makes me change my mind. | ||
| I don't think this changes zero minds. | ||
| I think that's true. | ||
| Except what makes what has changed is that I thought she was going to be imprisoned for life and treated poorly. | ||
| It was twenty years, she got twenty years. | ||
| twenty years and treated poorly for running the sex trafficking operation, but they just moved her to minimum security and she said something nice about Donald Trump. | ||
| So like if she had said, oh yeah, he had his hands all over under his women, she would never get a pardon. | ||
| Now she might because she... | ||
| I don't think she's going to get a pardon. | ||
| Do we... | ||
| Maybe at the end of... | ||
| Does she not have her client list? | ||
| At the door when he's running out. | ||
| Maybe with the auto pen at the last minute. | ||
| She ran that operation. | ||
| Epstein was one of her boys. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But when you say ran that operation, do you think that the operation means that she was bringing young girls for all the people that were going to Epstein Island or do you think that it was just for Epstein? | ||
| I don't know, but she was the one at the center. | ||
| This is according to people that were around them. | ||
| the setteals that that Maria Farmer I think would talk like Guy Lane was was at the middle in this bubble and everyone was kind of revolving around Guilane and this was like her brothel or whatever. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well I mean there's other people that. | ||
| she's actually cleared as or said that didn't do anything. | ||
| She said that Clinton hadn't gone to the island, I believe, is what she said correct? | ||
| Yeah, I think that's right. | ||
| Yeah, so I mean, there's other people that she's, you know, said things about. | ||
| And, and, and again, it it flies in the face of what people kind of already thought because everyone kind of already thought that Bill Clinton was a dirty old man and had done dirty old man things on Epstein Island. | ||
| And that's why there's a picture of him in a dress on Epstein Island. | ||
| And that blue dress, the blue dress that's at Epstein Island. | ||
| You were saying that you wonder if we'll ever get to the bottom of it. | ||
| And I sort of, I don't, I don't, I don't want to. | ||
| It's like, I don't want to go poke the bear. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I think, well, like, I mean, when you get on to this subject, we can talk about Trump, we can talk about Clinton, we can talk about, you know, Epstein himself. | ||
| But I mean, really, like, just sort of what weighs heavy on me is like the actual people who were victimized and trafficked, right? | ||
| And then what this sort of speaks to is like, can we, is there a two tier justice system, not just in our country, but in our world globally? | ||
| I mean, there are other parties and agencies involved with this. | ||
| So it's like, do the rich and famous and politically powerful get to abuse anybody they want to with no justice or not. | ||
| And so yeah, I mean, that's why I want to get I kind of always have this instinct, this desire for justice to get to the bottom of something, you know, because either there's justice for everyone or there's justice for no one. | ||
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| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That there's justice for everyone or there's justice for no one. | ||
| I think that there's a lot of places in the world where there's justice for no one at all. | ||
| And I think there's a lot of places in the world where there's justice for some. | ||
| You know, I mean, there are varying degrees of what people get served justice like this woman who was just released., she was the wife of a Tory counselor in the UK, and she had said something untoward about migrants after the Southport stabbings, and she was in prison. | ||
| She was in prison for like, what, like a year or something? | ||
| A year and a week, I think, something like that. | ||
| That doesn't seem just at all, you know. | ||
| And then even insisting, like, there's definitely I think what I was trying to say is like, sort of the idea that like, everyone counts or like, nobody counts. | ||
| Well, I mean, there's nothing like the idea that the rich and powerful get away with all kinds of things, that's, I mean, that's as old as human society. | ||
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| Yeah, King, wasn't it King Judas? | ||
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Yeah, it's not good though. | |
| He made his own church. | ||
| Henry VIII. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What was it? | ||
| He cut off two of his heads, two wives' heads or something. | ||
| There's the genetic argument, and it's kind of hard to have, but a poor, a malnourished human that gives birth to malnourished children over generations produces, arguably, stupidity or, or like can lead to producing stupidity in the brain. | ||
| Like, And those people can't run, they have a hard time running corporations and and endeavors. | ||
| And so they're relegated to the slave class or the plebs, these people that eat bread. | ||
| And that's what they don't have nutrition. | ||
| And then this other class of people has been feasting on all the nutrients and education, and they know how to run things. | ||
| And so they've elevated themselves to this other class. | ||
| And that's how it has been since the Roman Empire at the very least, and kings and subjects and even the people at the top will, like Stalin, he'll kill off his other people at the top eventually, like the justice fails, you know. | ||
| To your point, William, I agree, like it's not a good thing. | ||
| I'm just saying that it's about as normal as any other human traits or any other phenomenon that happens with human beings. | ||
| And again, yes, and to be honest with you, the United States for a long time, I think that the United States probably had the best record about that. | ||
| There was a long time where you, you, I think you could actually get a certain amount of justice for people, even powerful people that had broken the law. | ||
| But I think that's, that's broken down now. | ||
| I think that the politically connected are largely insulated from justice. | ||
| But at the same time, I say that, but Epstein did die in prison and there were very few people that were as connected as Epstein was. | ||
| So, yes, I do think that it's very, it's common for wealthy people to get away with whatever they're doing. | ||
| And I think that's largely because they have the resources to hire the best lawyers and stuff like that. | ||
| But it's not all the time because, again, Epstein was in prison when he died. | ||
| So, yeah, but why was that if Epstein was killed in prison? | ||
| I mean, sure, you could take that as a measureure of justice, but if that if that is what happened, who was being protected? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Having Epstein killed. | ||
| So I don't know, but what but the point that I'm making is again, Epstein had, you know, ample resources and he still ended up in prison. | ||
| You know, so it's like there is some amount of our system does, you know, does put wealthy people in prison and Epstein was probably going to be in prison for the rest of his life. | ||
| Gillene going in jail for twenty years. | ||
| Like she is she may not be there the rest of her life, but she's going to be super old when she gets out, um, barring some kind of pardon. | ||
| And so the only point that I'm making is, is it, yes, I agree., it's a bad thing. | ||
| And I still think that the United States and our system of justice is better than most in the world, and Prop might even be better than anywhere else in the world. | ||
| It seems like when our political elite started getting this untouchability factor, it was around when the liberal economic order started after World War two, like because of the heavy British influence. | ||
| Like the kings, you can't put them in jail because they own everything and they make all the law. | ||
| Their word is the law. | ||
| And we're stuck with it. | ||
| So would you say that Epstein was not politically well connected? | ||
| He was, but he was an expiators. | ||
| I think he was an expiators and put down to blame everything on him and shut it up. | ||
| So you're so you think that there were other people that were involved in the illegal going on on his island? | ||
| Yeah, Les Wexner was friends with his Victoria's Secret people apparently would come and go and that young models, young models, Ghislaine Maxwell now being moved to minimum security, really? | ||
| I mean, not that she's a threat, but like if she's at the top of a global child sex trafficking ring, you wouldn't think she'd be put in a minimum security prison a year after she got arrested. | ||
| It's kind of I think Epstein got all the blame. | ||
| They wanted him to take all the blame. | ||
| Not that he's getting all the blame, but they want him. | ||
| They put him down and everyone loves calling it the Epstein files, but like, I mean, Guilane's dad, I don't even want to talk. | ||
| This is such a dangerous conversation to have. | ||
| But why is it dangerous? | ||
| It's very dangerous. | ||
| It's because I don't, because a million people are listening and I don't, I don't want to say something that's not true and put wrong things in people's minds. | ||
| Well, people will be seeing this for years after we say things that are wrong all the time. | ||
| So, I don't want to just rely on the fact that you're not, you're not saying that you say that, you know, just rely on the fact that it's opinion and and say, speak your mind. | ||
| It's see, I think that every once in a while, like Prince Andrew, it's hard not to, not to scapegoat. | ||
| I mean, they kind of like, I don't know what exactly where he is with the British Empire, but there are instances where people at power will get thrown under the bus or. | ||
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Or just like Weinstein. | |
| They checked him under the bus. | ||
| Weinstein. | ||
| That was Zary Weinstein. | ||
| The movie mogul, Miramax. | ||
| Oh yeah, yeah. | ||
| They they hit him hard. | ||
| Yeah, he's still in jail. | ||
| And in family, royal families, you know, if a bro, I mean, to the point where a king will kill his brother so his brother doesn't usurp his kingdom, you know? | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| I just think that interview was such an unforced error though. | ||
| Like, he didn't need to get that interview. | ||
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Which interview? | |
| The interview that he I forgot who was that Candice viewed him. | ||
| Yeah, I think it was Candice, but that was such an unforced error. | ||
| Like, bro, did not need to do that. | ||
| And he totally threw it out of the bus. | ||
| We didn't think that was, you didn't Oh okay. | ||
| I think we're talking about the Weinstein interview. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I think that's what they thought about Epstein too. | ||
| He didn't need to blow the lid off that thing. | ||
| And he was just careless. | ||
| And they're like, take him down. | ||
| Like take them down, put it, get them out of here. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know that I mean, I don't know that I have a strong opinion as to how many people that Epstein was smoozing with were actually involved in criminal activity. | ||
| It's possible that there were some. | ||
| I don't think that like everybody that was smoozing with Epstein was also involved in criminal activity. | ||
| I don't think that if there was a picture taken with you and Epstein, that means that you were involved in criminal activity. | ||
| Straight up, straight up, do not think that Stephen Hawking was diddling little girls like that dude. | ||
| The benefits. | ||
| He was like, he was beaten up by his wife. | ||
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| Well, he was. | ||
| Oh, in the chair, really. | ||
| Poor guy. | ||
| Um, but yeah. | ||
| So I do think that there were people that, that were, you know, that were associates of Epstein or took that took pictures with Epstein that were not involved in criminal activity. | ||
| And sure, there are probably people that were, um, but I don't know to the extent as well, you know. | ||
| It's all those people that got stuck in it and that all of a sudden the 17-year-old is touching them inappropriately and then that could be considered illegal. | ||
| And they're like, they don't even know she's 17. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Those guys aren't criminals. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the idea between being a honeypot operation for, you know, for intelligence operations that get someone on someone like that. | ||
| So the girl that doesn't look look like she's 17, but she is. | ||
| And then they can go, Oh, well, she was actually 15 years old and you had no idea. | ||
| It's like, Oh, what? | ||
| She told me she was 19. | ||
| That doesn't matter at that point because the news has already run around the world three times, you know? | ||
| So what's the argument for? | ||
| Two points. | ||
| One, Alex Jones is right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's like global, a lot of time. | ||
| Global, satanic pedophiles running a lot of stuff at the highest levels of international governments around the world. | ||
| And then the second thing I would say on this too, again, because this is not, this is not an issue that I've like staked a lot of interest in or commentary on other than watching it unfold. | ||
| But I do want to share a Bible verse because I think it's really applicable here. | ||
| This is Luke 8:17, for there is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed and nothing concealed that will not be known or brought out into the open. | ||
| I mean, that sounds like the apocalypse, like AI is going to take everyone's emails and everyone's videos and everyone's hard drives and they're going to make them all public at once. | ||
| You're going to offend the Christians. | ||
| I think that that's the great revelation of nothing. | ||
| There are no secrets. | ||
| I think that might be coming. | ||
| The AI is going to snap and make everyone's everything public. | ||
| Well, I think Luke's actually this is talking about judgment at the end of all time. | ||
| But I have a question. | ||
| I think we're both on the same page. | ||
| I have a question for you as a holy man. | ||
| The end of time. | ||
| Which aspect of this global cabal is satanic? | ||
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Ian's not. | |
| Ian's not on the same page. | ||
| Well, I'm just turning the page. | ||
| I'm going to turn the page again. | ||
| Let's go to page three. | ||
| What's satanic about it? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's a good question. | ||
| I mean, satanic about what? | ||
| The global cabal, the global cabal. | ||
| The pedophile rings that we're talking about. | ||
| Like, what's satanic? | ||
| Because I hear that term, satanic come up in regards. | ||
| Hey, Phil, why is that funny? | ||
| Ian's Ian's my favorite person. | ||
| She's hilarious. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Have you seen the WEF like their, like their crazy, like I guess you call them rituals like with Klaus Schwab? | ||
| Have you seen all the stuff that they've done this stuff? | ||
| Like they almost do it. | ||
| They don't have to do that stuff. | ||
| They do it almost as for, you know, some unknown reason. | ||
| And that's why it looks it looks fun it looks pretty Zydanic. | ||
| It looks like some, what's that one movie with like with Brad Pitt or what not Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, where they had that weird party in New York. | ||
| I can't remember that in any other movie. | ||
| It's escaped me now. | ||
| But it's not, it's Vanilla Scott with the masks. | ||
| With eyes wide shut. | ||
| Eyes wide shut. | ||
| Yeah, they do all that other weird stuff. | ||
| I've never seen it, but I know what you're referring to. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, they do all that weird stuff and they don't have to do that, but they do that for some reason. | ||
| And for me, like, and most people, I look at it and I'm like, well, that's kind of weird. | ||
| So it could be cultish, like ancient. | ||
| Yeah, let me try to answer a question here briefly, just like very briefly and from a theological perspective, right? | ||
| So in the book of Ephesians, the apostle Paul writes about how, you know, we wrestle not only with flesh and blood, but with principalities and powers in the spiritual realm, dark powers, right? | ||
| And so as a Bible believing Christian, I believe fundamentally everyone, whether you recognize it or not, is either serving God or the devil, right? | ||
| So it's like they're, according to just basic orthodox Christian theology, like that's the divide. | ||
| Some people do it more intentionally than others, but I do absolutely believe that there are many powerful people in the world who are trying to and intentionally pursuing tapping into occult, demonic power to bolster the subversive and evil work that they're doing. | ||
| So is it when it's demonic, is that they're allowing the animal aspect of themselves to take over and run the show, as opposed to the divine inspiratory aspect of the human, the consciousness, the you know, you know, like if I had to fit it in, if I divine would not be animal, it would be evil. | ||
| Yeah, and we're using different categories. | ||
| The animal being the destructive, consumptory, kills to eat, it wants money to protect itself, it wants to be warm, so it will kill people to get warm. | ||
| Like it takes over without the animal, you're nothing. | ||
| So you have these two aspects. | ||
| So the terminology that I would use is actually really, and it's interesting in our, before we got on camera, you were talking about pride, right? | ||
| So Satan is, you know, many people say sort of like the, you know, the first sin was the sin of pride, Satan wanting to become God. | ||
| So I wouldn't use the phrase animal so much as it says, we are creators. | ||
| God made us to worship and love and serve him. | ||
| We've rejected that. | ||
| Instead, we're trying to dethrone God, make ourselves God. | ||
| That's, you know, Satan's rejection of his place in God's created order as a created being worshipping and serving him. | ||
| So that it's really the pursuit of deity in rebellion against God. | ||
| Do you think that AI is like a manifestation of humans attempting to become God? | ||
| I'm not going to weigh on that. | ||
| I'm not one hundred percent sure. | ||
| AI feels inevitable, which is why I wonder if if the humans are attempting to usurp the power of God, whatever that means, the ability to create atomic printing, take two, take hydrogen and make oil, make food, make water, make whatever you need, because you can fuse it all together really fast. | ||
| Okay, well, I know we're way off topic here, but Ian's running me down a so let me answer the AI question here real quick. | ||
| I believe that man, you know, man, God has gifted man with incredible faculties and abilities. | ||
| So the ability to produce something like AI as a tool, I can see very much as just an exercise of the dominion mandate. | ||
| It's and so no, I don't actually think AI can ever be a god. | ||
| Maybe some people in Silicon Valley, I know some people in Silicon Valley view it as an effort to create a god. | ||
| I think that would be a poor way of trying to pursue the use of AI, but it doesn't have to be that. | ||
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| All right, guys, we're going to we're going to jump to this next story here and we have a little bit of news on it as well as not just what was post today. | ||
| Kilmar Obrega Garcia is released from federal custody in Tennessee from NBC News. | ||
| Kilmar Obrega Garcia was released from federal custody Friday months after he was wrongfully deported to an El Salvador prison. | ||
| Where are you reading wrongfully deported? | ||
| NBC News. | ||
| Oh, that's they say right there wrongfully. | ||
| That's NBC failure. | ||
| Yeah, wrongfully. | ||
| It was not wrong. | ||
| They actually did the right thing. | ||
| He was wrongfully deported to an El Salvador prison and accused of being a gang member he was. | ||
| US magistrate judge Barbara Holmes in the Middle District of Tennessee ordered Abrego Garcia's release from a jail near Nashville, Tennessee, where he had been held since he was freed from El Salvador's Seacot prison in June. | ||
| Abrego Garcia is en route to his family in Maryland, Sean Hecker, one of his attorneys said. | ||
| Abrego Garcia was unlawfully arrested and deported, which is wrong because he's here illegally. | ||
| So yeah. | ||
| Yeah, and he was, yeah. | ||
| And he was caught trafficking people as well. | ||
| Trafficking human beings. | ||
| Yeah, this is, this is, this is absolutely, it is the opposite of informing people. | ||
| It is absolutely just lying to people. | ||
| Abrego Garcia was unlawfully arrested and deported and then imprisoned all because of the government's vindictive attack on a man who had the courage to fight back against the administration's continuing assault on the rule of law, Hecker said in a statement. | ||
| Now, I mean, granted, this is his lawyer that's saying that, but still the fact that they ran with that quote and they do no pushback, right? | ||
| No, they think that it was one hundred percent wrong to. | ||
| report this guy. | ||
| He now has 48 hours to reach his brother's house in suburban Maryland, where the judge said he's allowed to live under a series of conditions. | ||
| He'll also have to check in with immigration officials at Ice Baltimore's field office. | ||
| Abrego Garcia's attorney had requested the 30-day pause that prevented their client from walking free last month out of fear that he might be detained by federal immigration and customs enforcement officers upon his release. | ||
| That ruling followed two others that aimed to protect Abrego Garcia. | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| In July, the US District Judge Waverly Crenshaw in Nashville sought to release Abrego Garcia. | ||
| At the time, Crenshaw denied a government motion to block his release, writing that the Trump administration had failed to provide evidence that Abrego Garcia must remain detained or that he is a flight risk. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| And the other thing that's crazy about that too is that this Maryland man, Arbrego Garcia, he had a detainer. | ||
| He had an immigration detainer. | ||
| He was supposed to be deported. | ||
| It's just that the judge in the case said that he should not be deported to El Salvador given the conditions in El Salvador at the time. | ||
| But since that time and since he was prior to when he was deported to El Salvador this year, conditions in El Salvador were substantially different. | ||
| Most of the gangs that he had feared had already been imprisoned by Bukele, right? | ||
| So the conditions that prevented his release to El Salvador. | ||
| were no longer in effect. | ||
| It had been totally different. | ||
| But now what's happened, and this is a development since, um, yeah, you have the build Malugan up, and we actually got a statement at the Postmillennial from Kristi Noam about this, but, uh, can I read it? | ||
| Do you have a statement from the Postmillennial, please. | ||
| Oh, I can do that too. | ||
| Can I do this one first? | ||
| Sure, go ahead. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, uh, ICE issued a statement saying, um, pursuant, oh, this was leaked, I think, pursuant to the court order issued in the District Court of Maryland on july 23, um, please let this email service notice that DHS may remove your client, Kilmar Amando Arbrego Garcia, to Uganda no earlier than 72 hours from now because Uganda just agreed to take deported illegal immigrants that are not permitted to go back to their home country. | ||
| So did they confirm that that's not a fake? | ||
| Yeah, this is not fake. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then to Postmillennial, Kristi Noam said, activist liberal judges have attempted to obstruct our law enforcement every step of the way in removing the worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens from our country. | ||
| Today we reached a new low with this publicity hungry Maryland judge mandating this illegal alien who is an MS thirteen gang member, human trafficker, serial domestic abuser, and child predator be allowed free. | ||
| What kind of? | ||
| What a, what costume do you think she was wearing when she was writing the statement? | ||
| Do you I think she must have had cowboy boots. | ||
| This is probably I don't know if she's writing it's business Barbie. | ||
| Yeah, there he goes. | ||
| She's wearing she's writing this is definitely wearing a suit and a tie. | ||
| She's wearing her outfit though. | ||
| She's wearing a T-shirt. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Suit and tie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Pantaloons. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She actually she might have actually just been wearing like a male suit that's fit for her. | ||
| I don't think she, no, I don't think she has that. | ||
| I think she's big on the jeans with the blazer. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The T-shirt, like you said, the MAGA hat and the cowboy boot. | ||
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| Yeah, I think I absolutely love Kristy Noeman, her cosplay. | ||
| She is, she's taking It's her look. | ||
| She's taking official cosplay to new levels every time I see her. | ||
| We're going to do that South Park thing where they had her face just melt. | ||
| Beautiful. | ||
| It was awesome. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think she liked that very much. | ||
| Oh, I mean, look, her AVI on X for a while was Kristin Noam with the laser eyes. | ||
| So, you know, she had to have at least a little bit of sense of humor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This case has been wild, right? | ||
| Because, I mean, the Democrats caught on to this guy. | ||
| Like, he was like the reincarnation of Rosa Parks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, he's some sort of civil rights icon and hero when he's, you know, remember when Trump ran like in 2016? | ||
| So this is like in 2015 or something and Trump says all these illegal immigrants, they're like criminals and they're rapists and everyone lost their minds, like, oh, he's so racist. | ||
| And it's just like over and over again, you scratch some illegal immigrant in this country and you find some MS thirteen gang banger like abusing pedophile. | ||
| There, there, I want to narrow down on a point with that for us in a second. | ||
| But Libby, you were going to read the post millennial statement you said? | ||
| Oh, I did. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I did. | ||
| So is it? | ||
| So I mean, look, I can't help. | ||
| I'm not a I'm not a particularly spiritual guy. | ||
| I'm not particularly big on religion. | ||
| I'm I consider myself agnostic. | ||
| I can't help but listen to the Democrats and the things that they get behind and be like, you guys are literally trying to be comic book evil bad guys. | ||
| Like, they get behind everything that is against good things, everything that is against anything that produces positive results for a family. | ||
| They are just they get behind all of the criminals. | ||
| It literally is as if they are written by a comic book and like, how can we make a political party that is just the evil guys? | ||
| The guys that just like are like, it's evil. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| You know, it's like, it really is as if they are like just made in a in a Hollywood movie. | ||
| to be, this is what bad guys are. | ||
| Man, speaking of it, I think that's because they use Hollywood movie style media to manipulate them and brainwash them into these zombie horde mentalities, personally. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, look, I've said it like this before, right? | ||
| The Democrats hate God, they hate family, they hate marriage, they hate children, they hate our nation. | ||
| So figure out what it looks like to pursue a policy agenda that displays a hatred for all those things which are fundamentally a part of what we would call the true, the good and the beautiful. | ||
| And that's their policy program. | ||
| Some of it's toxic compassion. | ||
| Like it's not manipulatedate good people into doing evil things and and a lot of times people, if they see a woman crying, they just think, I need to stop that. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| Organized empathy, suicidal compassion. | ||
| I mean toxic femininity. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, there's no doubt about that, but it's like, even then, it's so hypocritical too, because it's like, you know, what they're weeping and wailing and gnashing their teeth and rending their garments and traveling down to El Salvador to see Kilmar when he's just a he's a terrible guy, right? | ||
| So I think it really is just in that sense it's really it's performative empathy. | ||
| That's what that's the word I would use. | ||
| It's performative empathy for someone that they think fits into their sort of intersectionality boxes of an underprivileged individual that they can use to weaponize against the goodness of the American nation. | ||
| I find that malicious when people I do believe you that there are people in positions of power that are not actually feeling the empathy. | ||
| They're just pretending like they do, and to get the people that actually do feel the empathy to follow their lead. | ||
| Like they're like, look, I care. | ||
| I'm going to El Salvador when deep down, like, it's a political stunt. | ||
| I'll look for some word. | ||
| Oh, I got a chance to say anything I want because they're busy. | ||
| God is good. | ||
| You are connected to the universe. | ||
| Your thoughts are affecting reality. | ||
| They're bending and twisting the web of fate. | ||
| None of that is true. | ||
| Okay, enough Moon Lord. | ||
| I just I sent it to you on X. Okay, thank you. | ||
| I don't have X here because I'm on Tim's Ian's gonna be like, Don't bring this guy back. | ||
| He contradicts everything I have to say. | ||
| I need you to contradict. | ||
| For too long I stayed around people that just said yes to everything I would say. | ||
| It was boring. | ||
| I couldn't improve as a human. | ||
| That must have been like in the slack. | ||
| When Biden was president. | ||
| I just Yeah. | ||
| I felt like I was being kept in a cushy cage. | ||
| What are you guys pulling up next? | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| Hold on a second. | ||
| It was a breaking. | ||
| Well, there's breaking news? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it was Yeah. | ||
| You put it in the general? | ||
| No, I put it in the IRL slack? | ||
| The No, the IRL slack. | ||
| When you cut me off when it's time, but until it's time to change. | ||
| Your thoughts are vibrating your neurons, which is causing a resonation of the field around you, which the people in that resonation field then start to vibrate. | ||
| And so that's how you have a fatty coupling of like psychic communication. | ||
| But I think the spirits of reality also are in that magnetic field. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this is breaking. | ||
| The Trump Administration Live updates FBI search home and office of John Bolton Trump advisor turned critic. | ||
| It looks like I don't know why this is such a bit. | ||
| What was that? | ||
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| Yeah, so it turns out John Bolton is also being investigated for potential violations of the Espionage Act, which makes it a crime to illegally retain or transmit national defense information, according to people familiar with the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss details of the case. | ||
| This also came up on, I think, on Jesse Waters as well. | ||
| So yeah, so they're investigating Bolton as well. | ||
| The Espionage Act is a, you know, it's a very big deal. | ||
| That implies that he's given national secrets to foreign entities, right? | ||
| Yeah, so that would mean that he was sharing cl classified information, not just to write his dumb book, but to, you know, potentially, potentially undermine the foreign affairs of the Trump administration, which is what he's been trying to do since Trump came to office in January. | ||
| Anyway, I'm thinking the T word is on the table here. | ||
| The T word. | ||
| I don't know if you know it. | ||
| It's a very big word. | ||
| It's a big word. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Treason. | ||
| Treason. | ||
| Very bad thing. | ||
| That's what this is. | ||
| So that's pretty interesting. | ||
| That really makes it a lot less of a, you know, so called political prosecution and it puts it into the realm of actual criminality. | ||
| But if they're nailing the, sorry, interrupt. | ||
| No, go far. | ||
| The espionage aspect of it. | ||
| If it's that he took classified information and put it in his book and now the Chinese government is able to read his book. | ||
| So that's espionage. | ||
| I'm like, oh, I think that's different. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't think I would hope. | ||
| Yeah, that that seems like that would But this indicates that he's actually wired sending information to foreigners. | ||
| Or just sharing sharing information with people that he is not authorized to share information with. | ||
| This is totally pontificating or maybe I'm asking you guys totally to pontificate, but who do you like? | ||
| That is your job. | ||
| That's your job. | ||
| Who are the most likely who are the most likely recipients of this information? | ||
| Do you think that he would be sharing it with like Ukraine or with Well, he's he was into he was into the whole Ukraine war, right? | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I'm not great with foreign affairs, I gotta say. | ||
| That was the first thing that came to mind for me is like Ukraine. | ||
| We know that the former chairman of the Jo Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark Milley was like calling the Chinese. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Offering them assurances that he had no right and no authority to do outside of the chain of command, undercutting the president whom he answered. | ||
| So I mean, I got, I got to say, do you know why they haven't called him back and actually court martialed that guy? | ||
| You know, it's crazy, I forgot about that. | ||
| That was seriously messed up. | ||
| Well, bringing up Bolton and the espionage acts just reminded me of this. | ||
| And I just have to say, like, it's time not to just have raids or we need arrests. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, we need arrests. | ||
| Hopefully we're getting there, but like, yeah. | ||
| We need arrests. | ||
| This is something that we, that we talk about. | ||
| There's a lot of people that are very. | ||
| There are people that are even like that sit around the table a lot. | ||
| We were talking about it last night. | ||
| There are people that are extremely impatient. | ||
| They believe that Donald Trump should have come back and like people should have been arrested immediately. | ||
| And I've been like, look, you need to understand that there is a process that they have to go through because you don't want people to get arrested and then get away with it. | ||
| If you don't have all your ducks in a row and you don't have all this stuff together when you prosecute and you charge them and they get out because you didn't have your S together, then you can't charge them again because of double jeopardy, right? | ||
| Like they've already beaten the charge. | ||
| You can't charge them again. | ||
| You don't want to just willingly do this stuff. | ||
| Now I hear, and this is just stuff that I've read on X and stuff, but I hear there are grand jury being assembled for multiple different infringements or different charges that have been brought against people or they're looking to see. | ||
| So I do think that arrests will be coming or more arrests will be coming. | ||
| But I think that this situation with Bolton shows that they are working on this stuff. | ||
| And so I agree with you totally. | ||
| I wouldn't. | ||
| I want to see more, but I also have, at least as far as my, you know, my gut says, like patience. | ||
| is better because it means that if they do make an arrest, they have a more solid case. | ||
| The feds have like 95 percent, they have like 95 percent conviction rate when they or higher. | ||
| Like if they arrest someone, they have their shit together. | ||
| Or they're kangaroo cording it up, you know, one or the other. | ||
| But well, I mean, those numbers are so high. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| But one of the issues here too is that like for many of these things, we've been aware of them for so many years. | ||
| And it's like, well, yeah, well, Biden, it was Biden's DOJ. | ||
| Like Biden's, they were not going to go roll up Mark Milley, right? | ||
| Or look into, they, they, they, they, they closed the case on Bolton, right? | ||
| So it's like, you're right, it's only August still, it's not even September yet. | ||
| So good, good word, Phil. | ||
| You know, I just like I said, I mean, I have the same impulses. | ||
| I want to see people go to jail that have broken the law. | ||
| I think that there have been tons of political prosecutions from the Democrats. | ||
| There was a point that you made earlier, you were talking about you think that the Democrats would come after possibly you. | ||
| I think that if the Democrats get back to power, I think they will come after people like Joe Rogan, they'll come after people like Tim, they'll come after people all over the right, people that are influencers because the influencers, they believe that the influencers are why they lost. | ||
| They don't believe that their policies were bad. | ||
| They don't believe that people rejected Kamala Harris because of her influence inability and her stunning lack of political skill. | ||
| They believe that it was because influencers and people were lying and telling stories and all sorts of things. | ||
| They believe that freedom of speech is a bad thing. | ||
| So I think that they will come after a lot of conservatives using whatever tools they have at their disposal, which the federal government has significant tools at their disposal. | ||
| I mean, they'll come after as many people as they can. | ||
| What do you think about this? | ||
| And this is a little bit of a tangent, but I really want to talk about Gavin Newsom, because I think he saw what you're talking about, that it was the power of the communication of like podcasts and things that elevated like Trump went on Rogan two weeks before the election went on Theo Vaughn, huge exposure to a new crowd of people or people they didn't quite know, maybe we're on a fence. | ||
| And Newsom saw that, so he's been doing podcast runs. | ||
| I think he's going to be the Democratic nominee in 28. | ||
| I think he's willing to take action. | ||
| He put it on his, you know, he put it on his wish board. | ||
| He's going to make it happen. | ||
| Okay, so it'd be him and JD Vance if they're going to Yeah, you already see him going after JD Vance. | ||
| There was this crazy thing this week where Gavin Newsom posted a picture of himself in high school versus Vance. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| And he looks like this prep school pretty boy with a really nice scarf, and JD Vance looks kind of like a fat weird kid. | ||
| And you're looking at it and you're like, I'd rather have the fat weird kid than the guy with the pretty boy with the scarf. | ||
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| A couple of points on that. | ||
| One is that I think it, I think Newsom will probably probably get it, but you have to remember. | ||
| I'm not so sure. | ||
| That, well, I was going to say, you have to remember that like so much of it has to go through the black vote, and particularly in the South, and are they going to go for Newsom or not? | ||
| It was when Biden was struggling in the primary, you know, Clyburn had to drag his rear across the finish line in South Carolina to lock it up for him. | ||
| I'm not so sure that Clyburn will give the blessing to Gavin Newsom. | ||
| And if Clyburn doesn't give him the blessing, he will not be the guy, first of all. | ||
| Second of all, I don't think that the you know as well as anyone else that the Democratic Party has so many people that are very committed to the progressive agenda, to the whole woke thing, you know, a white guy with that, I mean, if you saw the you've seen the pictures of his family, they don't bond family. | ||
| They don't really care about that. | ||
| They only care about power. | ||
| No, the progressives, the progressives in that are the people that are going to be voting in the primary care, the people that are vote, like your major. | ||
| They have no leader. | ||
| I mean, the thing is, he's the one hold on, hold on. | ||
| They're going to, they're going to, I think that he would have a significantly difficult time getting over that hump. | ||
| He would need an electoral candidate. | ||
| And one of our guests that was here the other day made a great point. | ||
| He would need someone like Crockett as VP, which is what he would need. | ||
| Did you see her in the podcast the other day? | ||
| No. | ||
| He had her on the other day and he was praising her and telling her how wonderful she is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She's awful. | ||
| And she went out there saying that ICE are supposed to be Uber drivers for illegal immigrants. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's their whole job. | ||
| She just got re-districted in Texas. | ||
| Well, she might be looking for a job. | ||
| But if you have someone like Jasmine Crockett, then maybe he has a better chance. | ||
| But I don't know if he can do it alone because the Democratic Party still has that civil war going on. | ||
| Are they a normal party or are they the progressive party? | ||
| It seems like they failed. | ||
| The progressive Democratic Party has failed and is shattered and now Newsom's there to pick up the pieces. | ||
| I don't think he's really a nut job. | ||
| But it hasn't yet. | ||
| It is in the process, yeah. | ||
| It hasn't left behind the woke stuff. | ||
| There's a massive fight in the Democratic Party about whether they are the between the progressives and the liberals. | ||
| Just the other day, someone that Kayla, the not so erudite, was posting on X and I thought it was a ridiculous thing that she said, but she said that she was she had a clip of the woman and the black Republican guy and the radical progressive from Jubilee and where the woman was doing all of the intersectional making all the intersectional arguments and the conservative kid. | ||
| Yeah, the conservative kid just ragged Alder. | ||
| He just beat the snot out of her. | ||
| And Kayla said something along the lines of, you know, Democrats or Liberals should never have agreed to this stuff. | ||
| We don't agree to it. | ||
| Talking about the progressive ideology, we don't agree to it. | ||
| And we should never have let these people get so loud. | ||
| I personally think that they're going to elect Mom Donnie to lead New York City. | ||
| I personally think that statement is ridiculous. | ||
| I think that she's saying that because there are. | ||
| so many people that have actually come out against Woke, the Democrats have never had a worse or haven't had a such a bad brand in fifty years or something like that. | ||
| And I think that she's doing damage control because your average liberal absolutely was on board with all the progressive stuff. | ||
| When they thought they were winning, they were all on board with it. | ||
| You know, it was very rare, there were very few, there were few not, and maybe Kayla's one of them. | ||
| I don't, I'm not familiar with with all with her work, but there are very few people in the Democratic Party that were what you would consider regular liberals, not progressives, but regular liberals that were speaking up against the progressives because the progressives were so loud and so aggressive. | ||
| That's what they would call them. | ||
| all they would call them all the names they would call them racists, blah, blah, blah, if you tried to push back. | ||
| So nobody had the balls to say that. | ||
| So why those people are now in the Republican Party and they voted for Trump. | ||
| So the idea that the liberals were not on board with it, I think is totally ridiculous. | ||
| Some of the liberals were afraid they were voting against Trump, not necessarily for the psychopolitics, but and so those people now as an opportunity because there won't be Trump in 2028, obviously it will be Vance probably. | ||
| And it's just a matter of is Vance going to scare people? | ||
| I don't think he needs to. | ||
| It doesn't matter if Vance is going to scare people, the left is going to scare people. | ||
| They were preparing the field for Vance to be considered worse than Donald Trump. | ||
| The argument is going to be, look., Donald Trump was bad, but Donald Trump was a buffoon. | ||
| JD Vance is much smarter. | ||
| JD Vance went to, I think he went to Harvard, right? | ||
| He went to this, this elite, the Ivy League school. | ||
| JD Vance made a bunch of money in the tech world. | ||
| He's much smarter. | ||
| He's much more dangerous. | ||
| He's worse than Trump. | ||
| And Donald Trump was Hitler, but JD Vance is worse. | ||
| You know that they were doing it when he's not Stalin. | ||
| Like they couldn't say that. | ||
| Okay, but they were doing that exactly same thing when, when, what's his name from Florida was running? | ||
| DeSantis. | ||
| DeSantis. | ||
| They started laying the groundwork for DeSantis is worse than Trump because, and it was the same argument. | ||
| Trump's a buffoon and DeSantis is a lawyer. | ||
| DeSantis is this. | ||
| Trump is worse than that. | ||
| It's worse than that. | ||
| You're saying that you think the Democrats are not going to go for Newsom because he's a white guy. | ||
| And I think when the Democrats are in trouble, they always go back to the white guy because all those liberal women who go out there and complain about everyone, they really just trust a white guy. | ||
| I think they have to figure out who they are as a party. | ||
| They are not going to figure that out. | ||
| And when they do figure it out, it's going to be the far left. | ||
| That's what they're going to go for. | ||
| They're leaning towards Mom Dani. | ||
| They're leaning towards all that stuff. | ||
| And that's why you see the big problem where Hakim Jeffries and Chuck Schumer, they're not endorsing Mom Dani, but they're also going to be against him because they can't. | ||
| They have to wait and see what happens in December. | ||
| Revolution never stops where you go. | ||
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Fulmo, they're not going to New Yorkers are not going to go to the party of perpetual revolution. | |
| And so, I mean, it's going to be. | ||
| It didn't used to be. | ||
| They didn't used to be. | ||
| I mean, if the Democrats could actually go back to their, you know, non-racist roots as, you know, a party that is pro union, where you can be a pro life Democrat, where, you know, you're pro social safety net, but you're, you know, like the 1986 Liberals. | ||
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Well, no, I know I know what you're saying, but I mean, I just I don't see that's now what MAGA is. | |
| That's sixty what MAGA is, right? | ||
| MAGA has taken that place. | ||
| Like you can be a pro choice MAGA Republican. | ||
| You can be that, right? | ||
| You can't be the reverse of that on the left. | ||
| It's just, it just doesn't exist. | ||
| I think a lot about parties and I actually posted that the party doesn't make the man, the man makes the party and when you look at a party, a political party, it doesn't matter what it's called. | ||
| Who's in the party right now? | ||
| That's what that party is. | ||
| What are they saying? | ||
| That's what that party is. | ||
| And it can change from moment to moment. | ||
| It might be a completely different party if we have eighteen new people and eighteen people leave. | ||
| So keep that in mind. | ||
| I mean, on that point, they released this whole list of words. | ||
| I don't know if you saw this. | ||
| They're like, here are words Democrats need to stop using like birthing people and chest feeding and centering and let everyone LGBTQIA was holding space. | ||
| The point there is that if you're trying to counsel your radical activists and not even that radical, it's like pretty widespread throughout the party to stop using words like chest feeding and birthing people. | ||
| That's who the party is. | ||
| I don't think their messaging discipline is going to change that. | ||
| Well, I mean, yeah, I think you're right. | ||
| And that's my point. | ||
| I think that just like Libby was saying, like, Democrats have left. | ||
| Democrats came over to the MAGA side for a large part. | ||
| Now there's some people that really, you know, they have to hold their nose and vote for Donald Trump, but they still did. | ||
| And I think that someone like JD Vance is probably less offensive than Donald Trump to those people. | ||
| And I think that the Democrats are actually going to end up being the Progressive Party and the old school, you know, normal Democrats are actually going to evaporate. | ||
| Well, you guys saw the thing last night, right in Virginia, Winsome Sears, lieutenant governor, she's running for governor. | ||
| She was out there having a rally and some people showed up to protest her. | ||
| And this one, this gray haired white lady held up a sign and it literally. | ||
| read, Hey Winsome, Winsome's a black woman. | ||
| Hey Winsome, if trans can't share your bathroom, then blacks can't share my water fountain. | ||
| I saw that. | ||
| And even the Democrats. | ||
| It was great because it gave me an opportunity to make this point with this theory that I have, which I think is 100% factual as all my theories are, is that white boomer woke progressives are the only actual really racist people left in America. | ||
| And they're going around yelling at us about anti-racism all the time. | ||
| They grew up, like they grew up sort of in the vestiges of like institutional racism.m to whatever degree it did exist in this country. | ||
| Well, that's Jim Crow. | ||
| I mean, that stuff exists. | ||
| Yeah, right, right. | ||
| But I mean, like after the, like however much continued even in uninstitutionalized fashion. | ||
| But anyway, these people, like, they actually don't like minorities, right? | ||
| So it's like all your like 23-year-olds. | ||
| Well, they like them to do their lawns and shops. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's like who's going to pick our crops. | ||
| Like all the 23-year-old zoomers who share like the racist memes, like those guys aren't actually racist. | ||
| This lady who held the sign up is, right? | ||
| Like she really actually is. | ||
| And this gave her an opportunity to display it, you know, finally one time again. | ||
| Have you heard of Nick Fuentes? | ||
| Well, yeah, I mean, I know Nick. | ||
| Because I know that man is actually racist. | ||
| A lot of what Nick does is performative too. | ||
| Yeah, he mixes it up. | ||
| Maybe, but he's definitely not. | ||
| I thought that this thing with this sign was really, really pretty amazing because she had to, she hand lettered this sign. | ||
| She had to write this down. | ||
| She had to read it over and make sure there weren't any mistakes. | ||
| She put American flags on either side of this sign so that everyone would know this is what she thought America was all about. | ||
| And then she went out there in public and said that, you know, transgender and gender ideology is the same thing as equality under the law for races, even though obviously races all races., all races have two sexes. | ||
| There's no difference. | ||
| All you know, there's no difference. | ||
| And there are no rights that transgender people don't have. | ||
| There are not any rights that transgender people don't have. | ||
| In fact, there are rights that they seem to have that nobody else has. | ||
| Nobody else has. | ||
| Like the right to go invade, you know, an opposite gender private space, bathroom, whatever. | ||
| Right. | ||
| All kinds of weird trans rights. | ||
| A lot of these problems could, a lot of these problems will get solved when people stop using the phrase gender. | ||
| Gender is a made up thing. | ||
| Sex is real. | ||
| Gender is make believe. | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| Well, of course, I mean, gender was created as a kind concept essentially by feminists so that they could say that there were not innate roles that were specifically for women. | ||
| If you look at the roots of if you look at feminism in the 20th century, it caused this problem rather substantially. | ||
| This problem would not exist gender, yeah. | ||
| Otherwise. | ||
| Stop using the phrase gender. | ||
| Gender isn't real. | ||
| Sex is real. | ||
| Biological sex is real. | ||
| Men are men. | ||
| Women are women. | ||
| And all that other stuff is just mumbo jumbo to confuse you. | ||
| But we're going to jump to one quick story here at the end here from NPR. | ||
| Intel will give the US government a ten percent stake, says Trump. | ||
| President Trump said on Friday he has asked Intel CEO Lipbau for ten for Lipbau Tan for a ten percent stake in the company during a recent meeting at the White House. | ||
| He agreed and they've agreed to it and I think it's a great deal for them. | ||
| Trump told reporters he's he's walked in wanting to keep his job and ended up giving us ten billion for the United States, Trump said. | ||
| So that means that the United States has ten percent stake in Intel? | ||
| That's what it says. | ||
| Is that fascism, by the way. | ||
| Is that kind of unprecedented? | ||
| That seems a little crazy. | ||
| No, it's not unprecedented because the fact that I mean you have a stake inke in Ford or anything, or Moe. | ||
| The GM they did right after the 2008. | ||
| Yeah, and they owned a bunch of them. | ||
| And what about all the banks? | ||
| Yeah, we know. | ||
| It's not, it's not unprecedented. | ||
| But I think they're buying them up. | ||
| Wait, wait, wait, guys. | ||
| The point of this, I think, and I haven't read this through yet, but I think the point of this is to do something to increase the United States access to chips that are necessary for national defense. | ||
| Because right now there's tons of really complex chips that go into all kinds of missiles and all kinds of planes and all kinds of stuff. | ||
| And the US outsources that stuff to Taiwan, right? | ||
| A lot of chips that are made in Taiwan. | ||
| So if I end, if I understand correctly, this is because they want access to all the semiconductor industry. | ||
| So hold on a second. | ||
| In a statement released on the company's website late Friday afternoon, Intel confirmed that the government would take, would make a 8.9 billion investment in Intel common stock, reflecting the confidence the administration has in Intel to advance key national priorities and the critically important role the company plays in expanding the domestic semiconductor industry. | ||
| So the point is, we need to have semiconductors built here for national defense, for all of the high-tech military assets that we have. | ||
| So this is something that I've actually talked about a bit and I've inquired with people. | ||
| Should we have some kind of Manhattan Project style, you know, program to shore up our semiconductor availability here in the US. | ||
| Because without should China decide to take Taiwan, we are almost guaranteed or we're almost required to help them because of national security, right? | ||
| You have to engage in a war because if we don't, we don't have the ability to provide the semiconductors that we need, not just for our, you know, our phones or whatever, but for actual necessary things for national security, for military planes, for, for, you know. | ||
| You know, anti air systems for missiles and stuff like that. | ||
| Those things are necessary. | ||
| If it could be fascism, it would be if they took the whole company. | ||
| Yes, it would be, but it starts with ten percent. | ||
| Right, but it Well, no, I don't think so. | ||
| I think it's when the government and the corporations collude to take power. | ||
| That's oligarchy. | ||
| But that's not, and it's not, they're not colluding to take power. | ||
| There's a small group of wealthy men. | ||
| They're not, they're not colluding to take power. | ||
| This isn't a power is ten percent stock in, but the point is, it's the government working with the company in order to be able to produce the things necessary that the government, you know, the thing the government needs. | ||
| Well, I'm not saying fascism is evil. | ||
| Some fascism is good. | ||
| And in a way, this might be a very good thing. | ||
| Because if it comes to life and death, I'll take fascism and survival over not fascism and death. | ||
| And if it means that we need to step up our government needs to take control of the private company to make weapons to our survival, well, that's an argument I would. | ||
| 10% stake is not taking control. | ||
| What's the third step though? | ||
| Okay, so but that's different. | ||
| That's a question of if there's going to be another step. | ||
| 10% is not. | ||
| The point of that is giving them money, right? | ||
| That's what they did. | ||
| They gave Intel money so that way Intel could expand in the US. | ||
| If they just like printed eight trillion and gave or eight billion and gave it to them. | ||
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| Okay, I mean, it's not the worst. | ||
| Maybe we I'm with you on the superconductor. | ||
| I mean, we need chip production in the United States. | ||
| And we need to step on it that. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, personally, I think there's a couple of industries that the US should really put some effort into. | ||
| I think when it comes to energy creation, I think nuclear, I think that, I mean, possibly, excuse me, possibly solar. | ||
| I'm not, I'm not against solar power. | ||
| I think that in the, in the future, it's probably going to be more common. | ||
| Also piezoelectric, have you followed that much? | ||
| They've just developed these like walkways that charge in Tokyo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah, they walk on them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just the, the stress, the tension creates electricity. | ||
| Yeah, that's great for helping. | ||
| For shoes. | ||
| That's great for helping like, you know, municipalities and stuff like that. | ||
| But I'm thinking of stuff like, I'm thinking of the stuff that would be able to. | ||
| Explosive force. | ||
| Well, not so much that. | ||
| I'm thinking of stuff that would be able to run, you know, data processing centers. | ||
| Things that AI is going to need because the U.S. isn't going to be in an arms race with AI, with other countries over AI. | ||
| Because AI could possibly be a revolutionary technology that makes other countries'military assets almost useless. | ||
| So that's possible. | ||
| But what do you guys think? | ||
| Do you think this is a good idea? | ||
| Do you think at this price point, do you think it's a smart move? | ||
| Do you guys have an idea about it? | ||
| I mean, there's no doubt that making sure that we have reduced dependence on supply chains that could be easily threatened or weaponized against us, whether it's in chase, like we have supply chain dependence on China for a whole host of different things. | ||
| This was exposed during the pandemic. | ||
| We rely on chip production in Taiwan, which is in a very vulnerable region, and there's been some really good work being done by Elbridge Colby on the Taiwan issue in particular and trying to get like Pacific Allies to step up to the plate on that. | ||
| So that's important. | ||
| Maybe this is a part of that strategy. | ||
| I'm going to poll Donald Trump. | ||
| You're just now telling me this for the first time. | ||
| So it does seem strange to me.. | ||
| It seems odd. | ||
| Like, I mean, I trust it's not illegal, you know, that we're we're purchasing, you know, investment in a company. | ||
| It does feel a little bit like picking winners and losers, but maybe Intel is the only game in town. | ||
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And if that's the case, then, you know, I mean, you're also stopping them from selling chips to China. | |
| Wasn't that a thing? | ||
| There are certain chips that no one can sell to China. | ||
| So like Nvidia, which there's Nvidia is already the winner. | ||
| Like lately in the past five years, Nvidia has been absolutely crushing. | ||
| And I don't think this, I don't think 10 billion for Intel is going to boost up Intel to the capacity that NVIDIA has. | ||
| NVIDIA has been just crushing when it comes to chip manufacturing. | ||
| So I don't think that it's actually picking winners and losers. | ||
| I do get the feeling that this is just about securing access to chips made here in the US. | ||
| But yeah, I think that, I mean, personally, I think that it's a good thing because the US needs to have the ability to produce chips for our national defense. | ||
| As long as these jobs aren't going to be given to H1B visas. | ||
| Well, and so if we're building chips in the United States of America, we darn well better make sure that the jobs are going to American citizens. | ||
| I mean, I agree. | ||
| I think that personally, I think the whole H-1B visa program should be ended for a decade at least. | ||
| Normally, the government would subsidize the industry and then Intel would reap the rewards, maybe nine billion in tax write offs or something. | ||
| So the idea that the government bought stake in a private company with my money is very strange. | ||
| Unprecedented. | ||
| Like are a lot of things. | ||
| Not unprecedented. | ||
| It's not unprecedented though. | ||
| Because what was it? | ||
| What happened before? | ||
| They bought in us, they basically, when they bailed out GM, they bought in 2008 right after the, right after the, the seized the means of production. | ||
| There was a bunch of banksks they bought. | ||
| They're the big brothers. | ||
| Yeah, like, this is not unprecedented. | ||
| Is all of them having to buy it and liquidate it? | ||
| No, they just gave them money. | ||
| No, I think Ian's like Ian's right though. | ||
| It's a little bit different in that this is a proactive measure being taken to sort of accelerate a positive development versus a reactive measure being taken to ameliorate a disaster. | ||
| How do you think, how different? | ||
| Two different things. | ||
| How different in your mind is this to the Manhattan Project? | ||
| Well, so you had brought up the Manhattan, it was funny because you, you, Ian was like, this is fascism. | ||
| Then you're like, Manhattan Project. | ||
| Then Ian's like, yes, we need it. | ||
| So I was like, trying to track. | ||
| Like the Manhattan Project was a different thing that wasn't, that wasn't the United St States like heavily investing in one particular company. | ||
| It was a collaboration to solve like sort of a critical civilizational issue with heavy government investment in a project, like in a government project. | ||
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Right? | |
| So this is, I mean, it's just those are two different things. | ||
| Wouldn't this be significantly less impactful? | ||
| Like the $10 billion to a company that already exists as opposed to literally bootstrapping the technology, the infrastructure, and the weapon itself. | ||
| Yeah, but the difference here is, is the Manhattan Project was fundamentally federal funding for a federal project. | ||
| This is federal investment in a private company. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So that's kind of the difference. | ||
| So for me, at least from my perspective, the way that I see it, I feel like it's a much smaller effort than something like the Manhattan Project, right? | ||
| I have no idea what the price tag was on the Manhattan Project. | ||
| It was crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's my guess. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't mind it. | ||
| I don't mind the investment in Intel. | ||
| If the stated goals are these AI race things and whatever else, I don't think I mind it very much. | ||
| I've been deeply concerned about Taiwan, that's for sure. | ||
| So, I mean, I see the solution they're aiming at. | ||
| Adjusted for inflation, the Manhattan Project was $35.4 billion. | ||
| Over how long? | ||
| A lot of money to build a bomb. | ||
| Only a couple of years, wasn't it? | ||
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Yeah, a couple of years. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It is a lot of money to build a bomb. | ||
| But they had to invent the technology, you know? | ||
| It was $2 billion back in 1940. | ||
| That's what has to happen now, right? | ||
| Like, technology has to be invented and which would be AI, the government. | ||
| Well, that's what the chips are, part of what the chips are for, I imagine. | ||
| And then maybe they are working on it. | ||
| Chips power everything. | ||
| I mean, the world runs on semiconductors. | ||
| And again, I don't think that like, the government shouldn't be making chips just for, like, they shouldn't be investing in Intel so that we have chips to run iPhones, right? | ||
| They should be investing in if they're investing in Int Intel, the chips should be exclusively for military uses, for anti air missiles, for cruise missiles. | ||
| Yeah, and that, for me, that's why it's acceptable because, like, look, man, I don't need the government to put eight billion dollars into Intel so that way my microwave can connect to the internet, right? | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| Yeah, I definitely don't, I don't have any appliances that talk. | ||
| Yeah, you know? | ||
| Like, I don't need, we don't need extra for that. | ||
| We don't need to make sure that the Roombas are safe, right? | ||
| We need to make sure that the F-35s can fly, that the F-22s can fly, that, you know, cruise missiles can work, that we have the ability to defend the United States and our interest rates remain up. | ||
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Part of Mexico's interest rates will go down if we stay up. | |
| Any of those goals. | ||
| I mean, maybe it's not unprecedented. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe there have been other times where we've proactively invested in a certain company to help procure a particular outcome. | ||
| But. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, we've also done things like NASA, right? | ||
| So NASA is a massive public enterprise. | ||
| And without it, we would have no private space companies. | ||
| Like we're the only country that has private space companies. | ||
| That's pretty baller, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And without the investment that we put into NASA, that would, like, there would be no SpaceX. | ||
| There would be no whatever Jeff Bezos is one is, what Blue Origin. | ||
| blue origin, there wouldn't be any of that stuff without that major investment. | ||
| So I do think that there is a place for government investment to boost industry and things. | ||
| I just think that a lot of it has to be done with a mind toward what the marketplace wants. | ||
| Like Joe Biden's EV charging stations all across the country, that was a bad idea. | ||
| And there weren't that many of them, just like Kamala Harris's EV buses, you know, that broke and no school districts wanted them. | ||
| Is that all done through subsidy? | ||
| Yeah, that was all done through executive orders and subsidies and mandates and all kinds of things like that. | ||
| So it wasn't like it was like the government put out. | ||
| RFPs for contracts and then, you know, awarded contracts. | ||
| Okay, we're going to go to Super Chat. | ||
| So why don't you guys smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know, go on over to rumble dot com and become a member there so you can join us for the after show, which is not tonight because it's Friday, but Monday through Thursday we do an after show. | ||
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| Join our discord so that way you can call into the after show. | ||
| You can ask the panel. | ||
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| You can ask questions of the guest. | ||
| You can find like minded people. | ||
| You can watch the podcasts that have started in the Discord. | ||
| Maybe you'll meet your girlfriend. | ||
| Maybe you'll make some babies. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| That's happened a couple times. | ||
| Maybe you'll meet your boyfriend. | ||
| Yeah, or your boyfriend, you know. | ||
| But right now we're going to read some super chats. | ||
| The Cleaner47129 just said, Just welcomed my son, third child, to the world today. | ||
| I figured I would continue the tradition of announcing on Timcast. | ||
| Thank you very much, sir. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
| That's awesome, dude. | ||
| Make more. | ||
| We are very big fans of babies here at Timcast. | ||
| We want to see you guys have a happy family and a happy life. | ||
| And babies tend to make people happy. | ||
| So congratulations. | ||
| As you get older, you'll notice... | ||
| Your, the adults will start to die off in your life. | ||
| And like, if you don't have the younger generation there, it's kind of lonely. | ||
| Sovereign Fish says, Unsubd until Phil Lobotomy is no longer on the show. | ||
| Dude's a total clown show. | ||
| Here's ten bucks do a trick clown. | ||
| Thanks for the ten dollars. | ||
| It's a good click you made with your mouth. | ||
| Ian's on, Yoder says, Ian's on tonight. | ||
| Hope he talks about graphene. | ||
| I didn't yet, but when we were talking about industrialization through government purchasing of companies, I wonder if they're going to start buying graphene companies. | ||
| Jesse Hughes says, William Wolfe, the most based baptist I know. | ||
| So he's got some fans out there. | ||
| He didn't even get into religion much, Tim. | ||
| I mean, yeah, I mean, you were saying crazy things that I didn't really have a chance to like straight on it. | ||
| Yeah, we told you. | ||
| We told you. | ||
| You sat down. | ||
| We were like, he's gonna say some crazy stuff. | ||
| And you're like, what do you mean? | ||
| Like, you'll see. | ||
| He's my favorite. | ||
| I'll talk to you after he's here. | ||
| Cal says, big fan first, super chat. | ||
| Per tradition, I'm here with my wife who's working on bringing our daughter into the world. | ||
| Thanks for helping us stay informed enough to hopefully make the world a better place for her. | ||
| Go Tim Crew. | ||
| Cheers. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| Thank you very much for the super chat. | ||
| Congratulations and best wishes to your wife and to your daughter. | ||
| And if this is not your first, great. | ||
| If it's your first, make more. | ||
| Raymond G. Stanley says, holy moly, John Bol got raided raided we need to do a wellness check on elad bolton bros unite i'm i'm hearing through the grapevine that uh elad's mustache is quivering in fear we wanted to make elad and john bolton the thumbnail but it's okay like that like the uh family guy it's okay did they hurt you oh it's okay uh let's see uh alec pit says bolton lied about wmd's in iraq yeah fact check true So | ||
| did Colin Powell. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| Or was he given fake information that he repeated? | ||
| He was given fake information about the yellow cake, and then he had to go before the UN and apologize. | ||
| That must have been really humiliating for him. | ||
| Yeah, because saying something that's untrue that you think is real is different than lying. | ||
| Yeah, no, I think that's true. | ||
| Daniel, the Master McCullen says, Phil, in my opinion, as an American-born trucker, you're wrong about trucks. | ||
| Most people can drive a truck forward, but few can back them up. | ||
| Sucks that illegals ruin it for the actual hard-working legit drivers. | ||
| Look, man, I agree about it sucks that illegals have ruined it for the American hard-working truck drivers. | ||
| I agree totally. | ||
| I've spent a lot of time driving on the roads because of touring and stuff, and the bus is 45 foot and stuff, And I've noticed the difference when you stop at truck stops to tank up. | ||
| You see a lot of people that are not native born Americans or that don't speak English or whatever. | ||
| And that's a massive problem. | ||
| We need people in the United States that are working and that are doing things like driving eighteen wheelers. | ||
| They need to be able to speak English. | ||
| So it's good that the Trump administration is cracking down on this. | ||
| Hopefully they are as brutal about it as I want them to be. | ||
| Because I think all of these people that are here on visas that can't speak English, like if you can't speak English, you shouldn't be driving a truck. | ||
| You shouldn't have a CDL. | ||
| Well, that guy couldn't even read the highway signs. | ||
| Okay, exactly my point. | ||
| You get a CDL license if you can't see. | ||
| You go to California. | ||
| But it turns out, it turns out that in California in, was it California? | ||
| Okay, speaking of California. | ||
| No, it turns out that there was a bribery scheme going on. | ||
| So there was a there was a guy who was paying, um, no seriously. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, there was a third world behavior paying someone off, paying another company, paying the testing company off to pass failing students. | ||
| Yeah, that you're one hundred percent right. | ||
| The idea that you can just pay someone in Oregon and Washington. | ||
| Yeah, the idea in America. | ||
| In America that like, if I mean, look, if you give, if you try to give a police officer money when they pull you off. | ||
| Yeah, that should not be it. | ||
| But in other countries, it's normal. | ||
| It's what you do. | ||
| You give the police officer money and then they let you go and you don't have to deal with all the stuff you have to give, you know, whatever the police, what it costs to bribe a cop. | ||
| But that's something that's normal all over the world. | ||
| It's normal in Russia, it's normal in all, all over South America, like Africa. | ||
| That's just the way that it is. | ||
| So it's special and unique and, and something that we need to try to make sure that remains about America. | ||
| Like, that is not acceptable behavior here. | ||
| You can't just give someone money and they'll go ahead and say, okay, we'll let you through even though you can't. | ||
| And that's what's going on. | ||
| And as you said, it's third world behavior. | ||
| And it's because we have so many people that are here from countries and from cultures that are so different from our country. | ||
| And this is the point, part of the point that I was making earlier about, like, you can't just give people freedom, right? | ||
| Like, cultures are different and what is acceptable behavior is different from culture to culture. | ||
| Here we are, like, I know this is, you know, maybe it's, you can call it chauvinism or whatever, but in my opinion, America is the best country in the world. | ||
| And part of the reason is because we can rely on other Americans to not do things like accept bribes and allow people to do, yeah. | ||
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I think they can. | |
| And we have to again. | ||
| You can't give people freedom, but you can give them the keys, which is English right now in modern culture. | ||
| You mean like the language of English? | ||
| Yeah, if you learn the language of English, you're the keys to freedom basically in the modern day. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Clank Clank I'm a tank says, will you guys talk about the UK and Operation Raise the Colors? | ||
| Cities that can't pay to collect garbage suddenly have money to cover up patriotic acts. | ||
| We have man, we were talking about it earlier. | ||
| Painting the English flag in potholes so that way the magistrate will come and cover them up. | ||
| What what a ridiculous thing. | ||
| The idea that you have to wear a mask to fly the flag of your own country. | ||
| And I didn't see it yesterday, but I saw something today where there was a protest. | ||
| People, people that were immigrants to Engl England were protesting and they had a big problem with the fact that people were flying the English flag. | ||
| And the reason is because they're like, oh, this offends me. | ||
| It's like, then get the F out, man. | ||
| Like, this is our country. | ||
| Absolutely crazy. | ||
| And the promotion. | ||
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Perfect. | |
| Perfect. | ||
| Yeah, bring it up. | ||
| I just want to show this as well. | ||
| I've been, I've been seeing happen a lot. | ||
| A lot of people are posting about it happening in Ireland. | ||
| It's been happening even in Germany. | ||
| People in Scotland are flying the St. Andrews flag. | ||
| If it's happening in the continent and within Germany and stuff like that, it's spreading. | ||
| And if this is an incident I saw, I found also, which apparently happened in York last night, it says that a Muslim gang officially attacked locals over raising the flags being Saint George's flag and then also of course the Union Jack police swarmed the area off Conversation Post with the incident because that's what they would do. | ||
| Yeah, it's I mean everyone's seen this stuff about Tommy Robinson and how he said that he wants I think it was like the other special forces guy posted something about September 13. | ||
| Then Tommy Robinson obviously the UK government doesn't like that guy we're talking about it. | ||
| So we're definitely talking about it. | ||
| It's big news. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I want to I've seen a lot of commentary about the state of England, right? | ||
| And whether they're gone and I know that they're not. | ||
| I have to believe that they're not. | ||
| So if you're watching this to our English brothers and fathers on the 4th of July, it's all about America.. | ||
| But for the rest of the year, we are rooting for you to wake up and take your country back. | ||
| I mean, our language is English. | ||
| Talk about a bond with England. | ||
| We are one people with different governments at the moment. | ||
| I mean, the United States, in in, in my opinion, the United States is the fruit of the promise that was begun with the Magna Carta. | ||
| Well, you know, James Joyce, who was an Irish novelist, he said, the English gave us our, gave us their language and we taught them how to use it. | ||
| I feel like the English gave us the concept of freedom and we taught them what it means. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| True. | ||
| So, yes, Clank, Clank, we do talk about it. | ||
| We totally agree, like, this is, this is, this, this cannot stand. | ||
| England needs to be English and the English people need to stand up and assert their rights. | ||
| The Europeans. | ||
| Yeah, the Europeans. | ||
| If the king's floundering and not doing it, that's why self-determination is so important and self-governance, because you can't rely on the old guy every day, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wyatt Claydenberg says, Do a cultural war with ex and current congressmen who want to reopen 911. | ||
| Can you help people get? | ||
| Can you? | ||
| Can I help you get people? | ||
| Cook Alex Jones muddy the water so much people won't touch it. | ||
| But the San Diego story needs told. | ||
| I mean, the San Diego story. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And I mean, I know Ian would like to be in on that conversation. | ||
| What's it about? | ||
| What's the topic? | ||
| 9-11? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I interviewed Richard Gage. | ||
| He's been architects and engineers for 9-11 True. | ||
| Book Alex Jones, Muddy the Waters. | ||
| He started an organization that was just really, really, really effective at pushing out, you know, information about 9-11 that wasn't presented in the NIST, the original government explanation, let's say. | ||
| But that's a whole other conversation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Bring me on for that one. | ||
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| In fact, if we could get Richard Gage for that, that'd be fascinating. | ||
| Shane H. Wilder said Senator Carol Alvarado will filibuster the redistricting bill hearing tonight. | ||
| Texas rules state she can't have any food or drink and must remain standing, but she's used a catheter before and went fifteen hours. | ||
| Gross. | ||
| That is gross. | ||
| Also, it sounds painful. | ||
| Yeah, gross. | ||
| And thank you for that information, Shane. | ||
| Gross. | ||
| Sailor Motoko says at home recovering from a second hospital state with diverticulitis. | ||
| Boy, that's a awful situation. | ||
| I've got that. | ||
| I've got diverticulosis. | ||
| I had diverticulitis once, man. | ||
| That put me down for a while. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| He says, Thank God this time it wasn't complicated. | ||
| As soon as I'm back to 100%, I'll be getting the affected part of, whoa, part of my cor colon cut out. | ||
| Hot luck, man. | ||
| Hot luck. | ||
| What do you do to get it under control? | ||
| Is it just like inflammation at the colon? | ||
| They gave me antibiotics and I It's like an infection that causes inflammation. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, it is inflammation. | ||
| So, but yeah, I mean, I was down for a week. | ||
| Like, I was, I was rough. | ||
| And when I, like, I came back, I came back to work a little too early too because I was a little loopy. | ||
| Like, when I came back, I was like, man, maybe I should. | ||
| Antibiotics make you loopy. | ||
| Yeah, I was like, maybe I shouldn't be talking about politics tonight. | ||
| Uh, you know, so I didn't say anything too crazy, but I felt it. | ||
| I was like, you know, um, let's see. | ||
| Omega Rasu says Ian doesn't understand. | ||
| Satanic is a bastardization of the Hebrew word hashatan. | ||
| Asha Tan, which means the opposition, which presumes anything that opposes spirituality, religion, Yahweh, Christians conflict. | ||
| Oh, Yahweh. | ||
| Yahweh. | ||
| It's an interesting way to look at it. | ||
| It makes it for a very exclusive way to worship, though. | ||
| Well, that's sort of the key tenet of Christianity. | ||
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Is it accepting, though, of other ways? | |
| No. | ||
| I mean, Jesus said, I am the way. | ||
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He was a Jew. | |
| The truth. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So, a Jew is the way. | ||
| You can, yeah. | ||
| You can. | ||
| It's the fulfillment of the Old Testament. | ||
| Why don't we be Jews? | ||
| There are, there are. | ||
| Because he came in and created the New Testament. | ||
| That was the new agreement. | ||
| It was a new covenant. | ||
| He would have told you to be Jewish. | ||
| Hey, there are there are there are there are there are also Messianic Jews. | ||
| There are Jewish people, Jews that believe that Christ was the Savior. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That they still retain their Jewishness. | ||
| They still do things that the Old Testament says, like, and they'll still do, they'll still act like everyone should have Seder before Easter, you know. | ||
| We should all have that on Holy Thursday. | ||
| Okay, well, what's the point? | ||
| You should read the book of Galatians. | ||
| It's just a few short chapters where Paul takes this question head on. | ||
| Just read the book of Galatians in your New Testament. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Good idea. | ||
| By the way, though. | ||
| You should read it out loud. | ||
| Epic. | ||
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What? | |
| You should read it out loud on stream and post it to your X page. | ||
| Galatians, that's a good idea. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Jay Stewart says Cag had a holdover for Guatemala, not El Salvador. | ||
| His lawyers are lying to the public and need to be brought before the bar. | ||
| Time these liars defend their license instead of being allowed to walk away scot free. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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True. | |
| Kilmar Abrego Garcia. | ||
| Yeah, Kilmar Abrego Garcia. | ||
| In case anyone missed that line there. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| Bright Results Media says is a member for thirty months and he says, good to see you Libby. | ||
| Hope you come. | ||
| Hope you cover some of these days. | ||
| Tim is missing. | ||
| Best wishes, everybody. | ||
| I have also been sick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was too. | ||
| It's been over a month. | ||
| It's been brutal. | ||
| Everyone's been sick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It drove me out. | ||
| But thanks for the shout out. | ||
| Yeah, true. | ||
| Libby's wonderful. | ||
| So, let's see. | ||
| Thanks for being a member for thirty months. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I appreciate it. | ||
| It's a strangely specific time mark, but it's good for him. | ||
| That's what it said. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Unite Unite Glue said, The Guys from China, Fact Chasers in the China Show, might be great guests for any of the shows you guys do. | ||
| They've lived in China for years and cover nothing but news coming out of China every day. | ||
| They are really, that's a really good YouTube channel. | ||
| The China Show is you guys should follow them on YouTube. | ||
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They're good stuff. | |
| I follow a lot of that stuff. | ||
| I went to high school in Singapore. | ||
| I'm very, very aware of China and its impact in the world. | ||
| And yeah, I like their stuff. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| I'll try to have it on the show. | ||
| What do you think about the Mandate of Heaven? | ||
| The Mandate of Heaven is a concept where the Chinese people kind of decide who is going to be their leader based on just the average happenings within China. | ||
| It's an idea of like, if you lose the mandate, if you do something that tarnishes your honor, the honor of China as a whole, then you will no longer be the person who rules China. | ||
| It's happened a couple of times across numerous dusts like dynasties within China. | ||
| If basically, if the CCP is just viewed as if you think about the CCP, they're just another dynasty. | ||
| If the dynasty loses the Mandate of Heaven, then they're no longer fit to rule China. | ||
| And the Chinese people will then overthrow them. | ||
| It's happened many times. | ||
| Trump said he wants to go to heaven. | ||
| And I was like, I think the road to heaven goes through China. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Well, he was, he's, uh, I thought that was really interesting because he was saying, you know, I haven't always been the best guy. | ||
| And maybe if I can stop all this killing, that would help me out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it was, so we have a second to talk about that real quickly because We have a second. | ||
| You know, Trump obviously got lambasted years ago when he said, I've never asked for forgiveness. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And again, I'm a theological conservative Christian. | ||
| I don't believe in workspace salvation. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like I believe that it's the free gift of grace in Jesus Christ for all of sin and falling short of the glory of God. | ||
| But to hear that from Trump, to me, it's like saying I'm low on the totem pole. | ||
| It sounded humble. | ||
| it's like he's inarticulating inarticulate in his expression of a sort of a change in his spiritual posture. | ||
| And I like, yeah, like that's not how you get into heaven, but the fact that you want to go to heaven and you realize that you have shortcomings is sort of the first step in realizing you need a savior. | ||
| Getting shot in the ear will change you. | ||
| I wonder who told him that he was low on the totem pole. | ||
| That was a weird. | ||
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He's just being honest. | |
| He'll tell me. | ||
| I think he probably I think he probably just perceived that himself. | ||
| Okay, so let's read the corner. | ||
| Yeah, we got one more from Gabe Hernandez. | ||
| Hey, all, keep my friend Talarna in your prayeryers. | ||
| She's in the ICU with a rare form of E. coli. | ||
| She's a Wildland fighter in Montana and spent her birthday in the hospital. | ||
| GoFundMe is Aid Talara Gregorich's ICU recovery. | ||
| That's Aid Talara T E L A R A Gregorich G R E G O R I C H S or C H apostroph ICU recovery. | ||
| If you have some spare change and you want to help a firefighter out, go ahead and go to that GoFundMe. | ||
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Almost. | |
| But right now I want you to smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know, head on over to Rumble, become a member there, head to timcast dot com and join our Discord. | ||
| William Wolfe, do you have anything you want to shout out? | ||
| Yeah, thanks for having me again today, folks. | ||
| Um, make sure to follow us at Baptist Leaders, that's my organization's Twitter handle. | ||
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| We are working to revitalize the nation's largest Protestant denomination, the last conservative theological bulwark here in the United States of America, to hopefully make America Christian again. | ||
| So check us out at the Center for Baptist Leadership. | ||
| Oh, I wanted to debate great works, getting you into heaven, as well as great thoughts. | ||
| Have me come back. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| Let's, man, that would be great. | ||
| Good to see you, William. | ||
| There's no debate, Jesus was pretty clear. | ||
| Yeah, but if you don't do the work, then you can't create a system for people like Jesus to appear. | ||
| What? | ||
| Okay, so now Ian, on top of Galatans, you need to go and read the book of James. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| Thanks to everyone for coming. | ||
| I'm Ian Crossland. | ||
| You can follow me at Ian Crossland on the internet, YouTube, Twitter, everywhere. | ||
| Just follow me at Ian Crossland. | ||
| Happy to be here. | ||
| Take it away, Lib. | ||
| I'm Libby Emmons. | ||
| You can find me on Twitter at Libby Emmons. | ||
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| I am going to be doing the Discord pre show on Monday. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Six PM. | ||
| It's with Slick Sith. | ||
| So come join us on Discord and the Timcast Discord. | ||
| I'll see you there at six PM on Monday. | ||
| I am Phil that remains on Twix. | ||
| The band is all that remains. | ||
| You can check the band out on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, Deezer, and YouTube. | ||
| Don't forget the Left Lane is for crime. | ||
| We will see clips all weekend long and we will be back here on Monday. | ||
| I believe Tim will be back. | ||
| If not, it will be Tate in the morning and I will be here doing IRL on Monday evening. | ||
| But I think that Tim will be back in the studio. |
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