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Donald Trump is reportedly preparing a reaction force that will deal with civil unrest, which, let's be honest, is going to be leftist civil unrest.
They're already calling him a fascist, saying he's taking over DC because Trump was like, hey, perhaps murder is bad.
Maxine Waters, everyone's favorite, is once again screaming, this will be a civil war.
Can you use how silly?.
Can you imagine being someone claiming there's a potential civil war on the horizon?
That kind of person must be so embarrassed to say it over and over again.
Anyway, we're going to talk about that.
We got a bunch of other stories, YouTube's testing, AI, algorithm, age verification.
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Joining us tonight to talk about this and much more is Colonel West.
allen west
Good to be back.
Thanks for having me.
tim pool
Absolutely.
Who are you?
What do you do?
allen west
Well, I'm a 22 year veteran United States Army, 13 different countries, 3 different combat zones.
Did a stint and a tour up at United States House of Representatives, but now currently the executive director for the American Constitutional Rights Union.
Been around since 1999.
We're kind of the bulwark against the ACLU and also the chairman of the Dallas County Republican Party.
tim pool
Right on.
Well, thanks for hanging out.
This should be interesting.
Elod is here.
elad eliahu
Good evening, everybody.
I am Elod Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here.
Mr West, that is a very impressive resume.
Hopefully we could get a little bit more.
allen west
I just went to chat GPT and it did it for me.
tim pool
Tell me why I'm so great.
phil labonte
Hello, everybody.
My name is Phil LeBronti.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.
I'm an anti-communist and counter revolutionary.
Let's get into it.
tim pool
Here's the story from the Washington Post.
Pentagon plan would create military reaction force for civil unrest.
Documents reviewed by the Post detail a prospective National Guard mission that, if adopted, would require hundreds of troops to be ready 24 hours a day.
I'm so happy to hear this, because what did we all complain about in 2020?
Trump wouldn't do it.
allen west
Yeah.
tim pool
The riots were rampaging across the country and Donald Trump was like, no, no, we're going to let the states handle it.
And that proved to not work.
They said the Trump administration.
is evaluating plans to establish a domestic civil disturbance quick reaction force composed of hundreds of National Guard troops tasked with rapidly deploying into American cities facing protests or other unrest.
According to internal Pentagon documents reviewed by the Post, the plan calls for 600 troops to be on standby at all times so they can deploy in as little as one hour.
They would be split into two groups of 300 and stationed at military bases in Alabama and Arizona with purview of regions east and west of the Mississippi River, respectively.
Cost projections outlined in the documents indicate that such a mission, if the proposal is adopted, could stretch into the hundreds of millions of dollars should military aircraft and air crews also be required to be ready around the clock.
The proposal, which has not been previously reported, represents another potential expansion of President Donald Trump's willingness to employ the armed forces on American soil.
Spare me, dude.
They become apoplectic.
Barack Obama during the Trayvon Martin BLM riots, during the Michael Brown riots, we had the National Guard deployed.
They didn't bat an eye.
They said, Oh yeah, well, you know, I guess they're deploying the National Guard.
Nobody cried about this.
I was on the streets in Ferguson talking to National Guardsmen as they were deployed to deal with the unrest.
Why now are they pretending like they're so outraged?
allen west
Well, it reminds me of when all of a sudden SEAL Team 6 was Dick Cheney's personal assassination squad.
Then all of a sudden when SEAL Team 6 goes in and takes out Osama bin Laden because Barack Obama's president, they're the next best thing since Slice Brand.
Of course, we saw all the movies that are made.
It's always the rules for thee but not for me.
And so what is the purpose of the National Guard?
That's the purpose of what the National Guard is supposed to do.
And anytime you're going to deploy and anytime you have flashpoints, anytime you have criminal illegal immigrants, anytime you have a Trendy Aragua or some of these other terrorist organizations operating within the state., within the country, there's nothing wrong with having a quick reaction force.
You know, being a commander in Iraq, if we put people out on a mission, on a patrol, whatever, guess what we had?
A quick reaction force in case they got into any type of troubling situation.
They could pick up and call.
You could push those resources down there.
Wouldn't it have been great to have a quick reaction force out in Portland when they were shooting at the cops out there, when they were setting fire bombing federal buildings and things of this nature?
So the left, once again, this is the Marxist mindset is that we want the ability to go out and create fear, intimidation, coercion, and conduct and enact violence, and we don't want to be challenged.
phil labonte
I mean, look, the left has made it pretty clear in the past decade that it's not what the policy is, it's who's instituting the policy.
So if it's Barack Obama or Joe Biden doing something, whatever the policy may be, the left will be for it.
If it's Donald Trump, the left will be against it.
And I assume that after Donald Trump, if there's a Republican president, they, it'll be the same thing.
The Republicans decide they want to do something, the left is all against it.
If it's a Democrat that wants to do something, the left is all for it.
elad eliahu
I think this is a smart idea because, um, to be frank, most police departmentsments are not set up in a way where they are prepared to address, you know, hundreds of people who are protesting and rioting and also dealing with the crime that's there, say for maybe the NYPD and LAPD.
In New York City, they have a specific department called the SRG.
It's the Strategic Response Group that are especially there and they are on call to be able to react within an hour to any riot type situation in the city that happens relatively often and they're very effective at doing that, but that's because the NYPD has the funding to do that.
It's night and day seeing these riots happen in New York City versus out of New York City and out of LA.
I think this could prevent a lot of violence and damage happening around here.
But it's something we need to consider because I think a lot of cop department police departments have not really been up to full strength ever since the Defund the Police movement.
allen west
No, absolutely.
And we see that down in Dallas where I am.
And you look at the crime has spiked in the capital of Texas in Austin.
So yes, there's nothing wrong with having this flex force.
But isn't it interesting that the guy running to be the next mayor of New York City has said he wants to get rid of that SRG?
He didn't bump his gums too much after they just had that shooting up there.
tim pool
Well, I mean, he also says he wants to tax white people.
And he also says that he's going to defy federal authority and the will of the American voter by protecting non citizens in his jurisdiction.
So you know what, at this point, it, you know, I'm, you know, we were briefly talking about this as we're getting ready for the show doing pre production and stuff.
Democrats are not going to stop.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
They're, they're, they're screaming the end is nigh.
They're screaming Trump is fascist and literally no matter what he does, he's Hitler.
I'm at the point where I, I just don't care anymore, right?
They, they in 2020, we had the worst riots in fifty years, billions of dollars in damages and they said, Who cares?
Insurance will pay for it, which is not true.
allen west
No.
tim pool
And, you know, I see a funny post where, um, it was actually really funny.
A friend of mine posted this, a liberal was saying, I don't want to give snap benefits to people who are going to buy sugar drinks and soda.
And the liberals are arguing that we should give poor people sugar.
drinks and soda.
Now I'm like, well, it's bizarro world.
There's clearly no logic behind any of their activism.
You want poor people to be sickly and malnourished?
Let's give them protein bars, not soda.
allen west
Well, and that comes back to think about how COVID was racist because for whatever reason, you know, more black people were dying.
Well, if you have certain core comorbidities, such as the high blood pressure, the heart disease, the diabetes, all these things that, oh, by the way, when you're not, you know, drinking all these sugar drinks and all these bad foods that they have flooded into the communities and now you can use the EBT card, it's not even called a food stamp anymore to get this, They really don't care, but they are very good at going out and, as we talked about, projecting who they are on someone else.
I don't call them Democrats anymore.
They're Marxists.
They're leftists.
And what they want to do is create the chaos and confusion.
They support lawlessness.
And when you stand up against them when it comes to lawlessness and coming back to what you're saying, any time that you do something that opposes them, you're a threat to democracy.
tim pool
Do you guys know what Prine disease is?
phil labonte
Prine's disease?
I've heard of it.
I'm not sure what it is.
tim pool
So there's various kinds of diseases.
Deer, for instance, I think if they eat like the rotted remains of other deer or something like that, brain, it's the brain.
It causes Prine's disease.
malformed proteins to enter the body, which results in other proteins, uh, that the new proteins that are being formed in the body to be malformed.
And if they're not formed properly, they can't integrate properly and you start dying.
Isn't, isn't mad cow disease, is that what you said?
Yeah, mad cow disease.
I kind of feel like that's what we're seeing largely with leftists.
It's a malformed, uh, civic ideology behind them.
It doesn't integrate with anything.
It makes literally no sense.
And there's no point in arguing with it.
It doesn't function.
And so when we say things like riots are bad industry people's lives and they defend the riots, something is wrong.
When we say we want to help poor people, we do.
We don't, we want to lift people from poverty.
So we should, people, they should stop.
having sugar drinks and they go, no, no, no, we want them to have sugar drinks.
I'm like, but that's making them sick.
It's increasing all of these comorbidities and obesity and diabetes and they just want the opposite of what makes sense.
What Trump is doing with a reaction force, it's only a couple of hundred guys.
allen west
Yes.
tim pool
And they're screaming the apocalypse.
I just say, stop caring.
Just stop caring.
Trump, do what must be done to make the system work.
Those that know and care and are paying attention are behind you and we'll fix and clean up these streets.
Look, twenty seven murders per 100,000 in DC putting it in the top 10 number, number 8.
Some argue a little bit higher of the worst homicide rates in the country and it's our nation's country and the world.
And in the world.
And there was a story I just heard, I think it was Sep Gorka told me this, an armed FBI agent was car jacked.
Our law enforcement is being robbed by people.
Come on, we got to stop it.
allen west
Well, like I said, it was just what, two, three weeks ago, you had an off duty ICE officer that was shot in the face by two criminal, illegal immigrants.
So, I mean, how can someone say, I want to be the mayor of a city where I don't want ICE officers to come and remove these type of people off the streets?
How can, how can anyone?
sit and support folks to say, you know, America is not a sovereign nation.
We don't have borders to protect or defend.
We're just going to allow any and everybody to come in here.
How can anyone, I remember that line when Martha Raditz said to JD Vance during an interview, you know, what are you making a big deal about?
It's just a couple of apartment buildings.
That's how they rationalize.
That's how they normalize everything.
We should be incensed that you have But these are the exact same people, Tam and guys, that will say, we don't want you guys, the legal law-abiding.
citizens to have weapons.
We don't want the police out on the streets, but we don't have any problem with criminal legal immigrants being running around this country with weapons.
tim pool
Yeah.
We're in a weird time in this country where crime is bad and the argument is in some ways it was worse before, so it's okay that it's happening now.
And I don't know why we tolerate that degree of crime and people are acting like Donald Trump, federalizing the police in DC is martial law or fascist takeover.
It isn't.
It's a federal district.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
And Trump has the authority to do so under the Home Rule Act and he's commanding a police department that already exists.
Deploying the National Guard to deal with rampant unrest is constitutional and in, uh, and codified.
This is not even the insurrection act.
Trump has the authority to deploy the National Guard in times of unrest.
And if the laws are not being, uh, uh, enforced against, he can actually invoke the Insurrection Act and send in the troops.
Is the argument that we should allow crime, murder, rape, et cetera in our country because we're afraid of policing?
phil labonte
Well, I mean, I don't think that I don't think that's the argument that the left is making.
I think that the argument that the left is making is just, you know, counter Donald Trump.
They don't make any actual policy arguments.
They just say, oh, well, whatever Trump says is either not happening or it's good that it's happen good that it's happening.
I mean, we've been down the list of the, you know, it's not happening.
It's actually it's good that it's happening.
That's that's standard from the left.
So it's just counter whatever the conservatives or Donald Trump is saying.
And it's been that way for a decade now.
tim pool
Well, let's jump to this next story.
We got this from the Washington Examiner.
This may shock you all, but Maxine Waters, a Democrat representative, says Trump is leading the US to civil war.
I can't believe she would say something like that for the fifth time.
In fact, this is really funny.
She did say it.
This report is from August 12.
And when you Google search it, she said it so many times that there's tons of articles.
So don't get angry with me.
Maxine Waters is a Democrat rep and she's saying it.
So Maxine Waters said Trump is risking a civil war by not allowing Congress members to visit ICE detention centers.
She visited a Metropolitan Detention Center and DHS field office in LA.
Waters, Gomez and Chew were previously denied entry.
We understand it.
Blah, blah, blah.
Here we go.
For real, we're going to keep doing this.
Here's Trump is working towards a civil war.
Democrats are screaming, especially with the takeover in DC that Trump is taking over cities with authoritarian force.
They're arguing that we are going to find ourselves in, as Maxine Waters says, some kind of civil war.
And she's not the only one who said it.
Obviously, I don't think I disagree.
But, you know, I would disagree on that Trump is doing it.
The point, I guess, is that with what we're seeing now, Beto O'Rourke recently came out and said, screw the rules.
allen west
Yes.
tim pool
They're kicking us in the balls and punching us in the face.
We got to do whatever we have to do to win.
And, you know, we'll get into a bigger part of that story next.
But they are acting like Trump has started this conflict, despite the fact this all started when Hillary Clinton – the Obama administration accused Donald Trump of being a traitor to his country and working with the Russians to undermine the will of the American people launched an investigation against him.
Ultimately, it led to two impeachments, the arrest of his lawyers, the arrest of him, the raid on his home with lethal force force authorized.
And Trump now says, okay, let's get to the bottom of what happened.
And they say, oh, look what he's doing.
Look what he started.
allen west
Well, that's again the means by which they project things against you.
You know, when they say everybody else is a fascist, then what is antifa?
Antifa is going around beating up people because they're saying things that they don't like to be said.
So they're the real fascists and Maxine.
Waters, you know, my hair was all black until the first time I saw her and it started to go gray up there on Capitol Hill.
But, you know, she's the same person that also said Trump's going to start a nuclear war with North Korea.
It is always, you know, anytime Republicans or Donald Trump comes up with something, now the big, beautiful bill is going to kill hundreds of people, millions of people.
The only thing that has killed hundreds of millions of people in this world is socialism, progressivism, communism, Marxism.
You know, we can go back and look at that.
And furthermore, the only political party that has started a civil war in the United States of America was the Democrat Party.
Maybe she needs to do a little history study.
So if we come back and look at who.
who they are and what they stand for, they're trying to push us to this brink because everything about them is about totalitarianism, it's about power, it's about control, and they'll be damned if anyone can stand in their way.
Donald Trump is their number one nemesis.
tim pool
No, I want to push back a little.
allen west
Okay.
tim pool
I know it's contentious to argue who started the civil war, but I think there is an interesting parallel to today with what the Democrats did.
And the Democrats in 1861, before Lincoln came to power, several, I think it was seven states, seceded from the Union, basically said, you will not stop us from doing bad things.
And Abraham Lincoln said, I'm not going going to let you do this and went to the South.
It's it's I know it's going to you're going to get into a historical debate over who started it, but it was Fort Sumter.
allen west
Yeah.
tim pool
Union refused to leave.
The South was saying it's our, our, you know, it's our land.
You have to get out.
The Union said it's our base.
We built it.
But Abraham Lincoln decided to send in the troops and shut down what he was calling the Southern Rebellion and keep the Union together.
He did a lot of things that people would deem to be tyrannical.
allen west
You mean like maybe how today they're trying to say that what Donald Trump is doing is tyrannical.
tim pool
Exactly.
Yeah.
They say that they have the authority to do whatever they want.
No one can stop them.
And Abraham Lincoln is, is heralded for.
or suspending habeas corpus from Pennsylvania to DC to create a security corridor for the union to stop them from trying to secede.
And what was the purpose of seceding?
Because they wanted to maintain slavery largely and they wanted it, they enshrined it in the Southern Constitution.
Donald Trump today is saying, I will not let you destroy this union.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Through open border policies, through selling out our workforce, through destroying our younger generations.
And he's going to use his authority under the Constitution to do so.
So I would, I would argue that the Democrats.
allen west
There's a parallel.
tim pool
Indeed, that's just my point.
allen west
Yeah, there's a parallel.
tim pool
The Democrats want to do things that are largely rejected by the majority.
Slavery was losing out.
Abraham Lincoln said slavery will no longer expand in this nation.
And so they said, then we're going to leave and we're going to do what we want to do.
And he's like, no, no, you're not breaking the union.
There are a lot of people that would argue, uh, and do argue, the South had the right to secede.
But I agree with Ulysses S. Grant who said that we as a union sacrificed blood and treasure to admit you.
And that's especially true of Texas.
And then they decided abruptly that they were going to leave and not return that debt.
Abraham Lincoln said, you're not going to do that.
This union will stand.
Donald Trump is there's the parallel where Democrats are saying, we want open borders.
We want to extract the value, send the money to China, do whatever we want.
And Trump is saying no, we will protect this union however we have to.
And now they're screaming that because he's doing it, he's a fascist.
allen west
Yeah.
tim pool
Exactly like the Democrats.
allen west
And that is that parallel because today's Democrats, progressives, socialists, whatever, they are trying to implement a philosophy of governance that is antithetical to who we are as a constitutional republic, to our rule of law.
They are basically saying we don't care about the rule of law.
It's about just one word, our rule.
And so what Donald Trump is doing is standing up to that.
And as we were discussing, we need more Republicans to stand up and do this.
We need more Republicans to find our big boy and big girl pants.
in the House, in the Senate or even like you see in the state of Texas, because for too often and for too long there have been no consequences, there have been no ramifications for all these things that Democrats, leftists, Marxists, Socialists, Progressives have been doing.
tim pool
I'd love to just rag on the libertarians for a minute, the reason dot com libertarians, because, you know, Dave Smith, I like, right?
phil labonte
I mean, there's there's a lot of ragging that the libertarians have earned regardless.
tim pool
They've earned.
I imagine them like political cucks where they sit back while the Democrats run rough shot over libertarian principles and take their weapons and destroy their lives and suspend their rights.
And then when Trump is like, we have to put a stop to this, they go, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, that's going too far, man.
phil labonte
And I'm like, libertarians, they love to say things like, you know, I'm principled, et cetera.
But if you're principled and your political opponents are not, they will use whatever means necessary to attain political power.
And then they're going to use that political power against you.
And the libertarians are perfectly fine with losing their rights, you know, having their property rights violated, just so long as they can get on the internet and say, well, I was politically principled and I didn't, you know, violate my libertarian principles.
It doesn't matter if your opponents are going to take all your rights away.
elad eliahu
If you're so principled to the point where you end up voting with.
But when you get to the point where you end up voting with Democrats, I think you should review what your actual impact on power is.
tim pool
Remember we had a libertarian guy on and I said Democrats arrested Donald Trump's lawyers, which is unconstitutional.
What should Trump do in response?
And the response was nothing.
And I'm like, so we just let Democrats continually violate the Constitution, do whatever they want, yes, because responding would be an escalation, that would be bad for us.
And I'm like, so we can live under the boot of Communists?
I don't know, I don't, that's ridiculous.
allen west
And see, that's the thing, when you, and this is Battlefield 101, when you allow the enemy to know what you're not willing to do, guess what that is?
That's a gap.
Surrender.
That's surrender.
And you will be exploited.
And so what we have, and I know we'll get to this in Texas, but 2011, Democrats ran away from Texas, went to Oklahoma.
Four years ago, 2021, Democrats ran away from Texas, came up here to Washington, D.C. So what do you think they're going to do again?
And there has never been any hard consequences for them.
We're finally trying to get there, but now it's going to be debated.
It's got to go before the Texas Supreme Court.
Like you just said when we were off camera, it's crush them time.
And if we don't have that type of mentality, you're going to continue to see them, you know, march toward what they are seeking to have, and that's totalitarian control.
And you brought up a great point.
I was looking at a previous segment where someone had said that they want to see Mom Donnie win.
I think it was George Will.
George Will.
And you were talking about that.
And see, the point is that we never counter them.
We never go to the mat against them.
You look at this guy up in Minneapolis running for mayor there.
You look at Brandon Johnson in your hometown of Chicago.
We don't go to the mat against these people and really put them on their heels.
And if we don't, then the slippery slope, this is what we're on.
tim pool
I want to play this search post of this video you sent it to.
I want to post this.
Apparently, DC feds patrolling.
unidentified
How are you all doing today?
You're still in that trouble?
You got your ID on you, Chick?
No, I live right here.
Okay.
Cool.
Here's a cigarette.
Did you all get a call or something about right here?
No, so we're doing checks to keep everyone safe down here, right?
Have you ever, you've heard of the federal surge that Donald Trump's putting out?
No.
Right?
You don't follow the law 3 or anything like that that people are putting up?
So, yeah, Trump's got all federal agencies kind of coming together for seven days and going out.
So we're trying to stop the violent crime, all kinds of stuff.
So we're out here connecting people, talking to them, right?
Quality of life is sensitive.
Smoking, drinking in public, right?
It can't happen outside, right?
Most people know that.
So we're connecting people, trying to advise them about the law so they learn, right?
And then if there's other stuff going on where it turns into there's multiple agencies, there's a shooting and things like that.
So there's extra handrail, right?
So we're just out here trying to inform people and educate people.
It's not like we're trying to just go grab people and ruin someone's life over a drink or something like that, right?
I only had eggs because when you walked up at the moment you walked up you only had eggs.
Yeah, well it smelt like the odor of marijuana, burnt marijuana in the air, right?
And you're the only guy that had something lit in your hand and I didn't flash like you.
So I didn't realize it was just a sex.
So that's on me.
I appreciate you understanding and not getting cheerful.
Okay, so just know, right?
Learn, teach, tell your boys like, yo, everybody's out.
From FBI to police.
So do your thing.
Let them know.
Don't be smoking outside.
Don't be drinking outside.
Because Donald Trump is tired of it.
He's coming to the video.
I didn't know.
You didn't know smoking in public?
Yeah, so DC is recreational use as well, right?
You can legally possess up to two ounces.
You can give an ounce to your boy, right?
So if you had two ounces and he said he needed a zit, you can give him a zit, but you can't smoke outside.
elad eliahu
The fact that he's using.
tim pool
I got, I got.
I got no problem with this at all.
Like the emoji end is a face palm.
I'm like, whoa, hold on.
These dudes have been...
Those cops were...
He's like, I don't want to ruin anybody's life over just smoking some weed or whatever.
Just letting you know, we want to come out and law enforcement.
We're going to enforce the law.
You can't legally do it.
We're telling you that we're going to enforce against it.
Just tell your boys, let everybody know.
I'm like, oh, that's great.
It, it, you, I, look, I don't want a police state.
I don't want cops arresting people on fake charges, but the idea that because police have authority, that will always be bad is, is ridiculous to me.
The power existing does not mean power is always bad.
And we're now getting, I mean, this is the best possible video you could have ever gotten out of the federal patrols.
The worst video is guys going around just shoving dudes taking their wallets and not and roughing them up.
These guys were being very, very chill, very nice.
Good, more videos like that.
Let's clean up DC.
How about that?
phil labonte
Look, I'm not interested in police state, but I don't mind, like, you know, a heavy law enforcement presence in cities, especially if they're cities with high crime.
I don't live in a city because I don't want to be in a high crime area generally, and cities tend to have more crime than suburban areas or rural areas.
And so I made a decision not to live in the city.
But like one of the things that comes along with city living is an uptick in crime because there's more people and an uptick in police presence.
That's just the way it is.
tim pool
Yeah, Jeremy Kaufman had a great tweet though where he said you can eliminate 80% of crime by expelling those with three plus or three or more arrests.
allen west
But this is deterrence.
That's all it takes.
And what a picture perfect video, like you said, Tim, professional law enforcement officers going out there and talking people through it.
This is what's happening.
This is why we're out.
This is our task.
This is our purpose.
This is our mission.
And it's exactly the same thing that we do when we, you know, Baghdad or, you know, anywhere in Iraq, anywhere in Afghanistan is you go in there and you patrol through, but you're letting the people know why you're there.
And you're trying to be, you know, not accommodating, but letting folks understand it.
Please, let us help you to have a more safe and secure area.
If you have any problems with Al Qaeda, Taliban, please let us know and report to us.
But that's what you have to do is create that deterrent, have that show of force, and that's how you prevent a lot of this crime.
And what just happened yesterday after Donald Trump made the announcement, a man was shot, kill, Washington, D.C., just yesterday.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It happens all the time in D.C. It's a rough place.
And it's kind of remarkable to me that the seat of federal authority in the United States is such a bad city.
You'd think that D.C. would be the worst place to be a criminal because you're like, the feds are right there.
And the charges you get in D.C. are going to be federal charges.
No, they let them get away with it.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's ridiculous.
elad eliahu
Mr. West, I wanted to ask you because as I understand, a lot of people perpetrating these crimes are actually the youth, so to speak, as the president refers to them.
14, 15, 16, 17 year olds heavily involved in these car jackings, these assaults, running around in groups at night.
What are we to do with these minors who commit crimes?
allen west
Should we be accusing them as adults if the crimes are well two things, two things, first of all, you should not have a city council that gives them a get out of jail free card.
And the other thing is you should not have these judicial activists sitting on the bench, trying to play mommy daddy with them.
If you make that decision, look, I grew up in the interstate of Atlanta, Georgia.
If you make that decision to go out and conduct something, violence against another person, you have shown a willful intent.
And I think you have to be treated as such.
You don't get to go and play Legos and things of this nature just because of your age.
So I think that's, again, the message that has to be sent from the people that are making the laws and ordinances, from the people that are supposedly seeing these individuals when they come before them on the bench.
They've got to be tougher.
And, you know, it goes back to what Judge Janine Pirro said.
You know, a 14 or 15 year old out there with a firearm, okay, that's wrong.
That's a violation of all type of laws and statutes.
I mean, you know, you got some places where they say an 18-year-old can't have a weapon, but an 18-year-old can go into the military and we give them a weapon.
So a 14-year-old, you know, out there gangbanging and stuff like that, no, you shouldn't allow it happen.
But I would tell you the big thing, the breakdown of the family.
You look in all of our major urban population centers, and again, that's a policy that came from Lyndon Johnson, another one of those leftists.
When you broke down the family, okay, I had a dad.
A World War II veteran dad.
He would have beat my, you know what, upside down if I was out there, you know, with my pants hanging down and doing stupid stuff.
tim pool
There was a really funny video from during, it was during one of the, one of the riots., the BLM riots, and there was like looting and stuff.
And there's some young black kid and he was doing something, I don't know what, but then you see his mom coming.
allen west
I remember that.
tim pool
And she's screaming at him.
He's like, Mom, stop, Mom, stop.
And she pulled him out of there.
allen west
Absolutely.
tim pool
There was a there was one moment I'll tell you about.
I love this story.
I was in Ferguson during the riots and the left lied about this.
This is what really bothers me.
And this is this is this is, you know, 2014.
And it's where we started to see this bifurcation.
At least I started to see it where the left was becoming this evil entity, this cultish.
And that was they wrote a book called In Defense of Looting where they argued that.
in Ferguson they were smashing up stores and stealing Because they were revolting against a system of oppression that was owning their neighborhood.
It's all lies.
In fact, what happened was during the Ferguson riots, the locals were begging for help from the police because the people who were looting and riding did not live there.
Now some of the locals were mad because the gas station they burned down was owned by some Indian guy and they said, why are we letting Indians own businesses in our community and making money off us?
That's true.
But these young men linked arms in front of the liquor store where Michael Brown had bought had stolen the cigarettes.
Sorry, stolen the cigarettes.
While the looting had started, they linked arms in front of the door to stop anybody from going in.
And it was a reporter from Al Jazeera who went up to him and asked him what they were doing.
And they said that they were tired of people coming from outside their neighborhoods and smashing up their businesses and destroying their community.
Just then the dude's phone rings and he's like, oh crap, it's my mom.
And the reporter, he's like, let me answer it.
And he answered it and this kid's mom was like, what are you doing out there?
You get home right now.
And this reporter from Al Jazeera was like, no, no, your son is being very responsible.
He's protecting the business.
He's helping his community.
And that was an amazing moment.
Seeing that and hearing that from the locals, I was like, this is great.
What did the left report?
report that the looting was fighting oppression and the black people wanted their businesses smashed.
And I'm like, that's, that's insane.
allen west
It's ludicrous.
tim pool
They were begging for help.
They were saying, please stop the violence.
Insane.
allen west
Yeah, David Dorne.
Remember David Dorne?
phil labonte
The corner of the doorner.
allen west
Yeah, the police officer that was shot and killed there.
But guess what happens?
You get a person like Corey Bush, who was one of the ring leaders there in Ferguson and St. Louis, and then we make her a congresswoman and put her on the House Judiciary Committee.
tim pool
Look at that.
The polling during the defund the police period, which is like 2019, 2020, found that in the black communities across the country, polling showed they wanted more.
police in their neighborhoods.
They were asking for help because of the crime.
And what ends up happening is squad members pander to affluent white female liberals and say, no, no, take the police away from their neighborhoods, which makes it all worse.
phil labonte
Yeah, the the the the idea that the average citizen doesn't want a police presence in their neighborhood is a ridiculous assertion.
The only people that are saying things like, oh, we need to defund the police.
They're always activists.
They're not people that are and they're often times from somewhere else.
They're not from the area that they're protesting in.
The average people that are in high crime areas, they want police because a police presence.
makes crime go down.
That's not a question.
tim pool
Remember that guy in LA during the BLM riots where he was like, yeah, they're riding, let's go.
And then like an hour later, he's like, wait, why are you coming to Beverly Hills?
And then like twenty minutes later, he's like, stop, they're climbing the walls, help, get out of here, go back to downtown.
allen west
Yeah, I mean, think about the little three year old girl here in DC, Honesty Cheadle, I think that was her name in her house, and she's dead because of a straight bullet.
These are people, they don't want to live in prison like that.
They don't want to live, afraid of going out of their own homes like that.
But you're right.
These folks that show up, Maxine Waters doesn't live in her district.
No.
Maxine Waters doesn't understand that struggle that they have.
But yet they want to break down safety and security because, once again, it's rules for thee but not for me.
phil labonte
Janine Pirro tweeted – and I don't have it up right now, but she tweeted – she put up a tweet that had pictures of the – something like 45 people from the – They're all young black guys.
allen west
Yeah.
phil labonte
All, every last one of them.
elad eliahu
Well, that's most of DC, bud.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, fair enough.
But the fact of the matter is, like, if you're.
going to be a representative and Maxine Waters isn't, you know, I think she's from California.
California.
But I mean, and DC doesn't have representatives in Congress and it shouldn't.
If they need to be, if there needs to be a statehood question about DC, it should go back to Maryland.
It shouldn't become a state.
But like, if you're going to actually, if you're someone that cares about, like, the black community, then you should be worried about making sure that there are more police to prevent people from killing you, these people from killing each other.
These, these are young kids that oftentimes are making dumb mistakes because they're young kids and young kids make dumb mistakes.
I made my fair share when I was young.
But like, they're mistakes that ruin their entire lives or they killed someone.
Like, it doesn't make any sense to not endorse a police presence.
allen west
And they're illegally possessing firearms.
unidentified
Sure.
allen west
That's the thing that no one wants to talk about.
They're illegally possessing firearms.
You know, one of the big things that you got going on down in DC is that, you know, they kind of say, yeah, you can carry a pistol, but you can only do it here and you have to go through all these hoops.
You can't have it on mass transit, whatever.
Where a lot of these things happening.
I mean, it's happening around these mass transit, you know, areas.
So people should not be told they can't protect themselves, they can't defend themselves.
tim pool
Yeah, I agree.
And that's where I push back on the idea of illegal firearms.
They the system that's created right now is that only criminals have firearms.
allen west
Yes.
tim pool
So I will respect the statutory limits that have been imposed for now while rejecting them on constitutional grounds.
I think you should be legally allowed to carry in DC and anywhere in this country, and then we wouldn't have these problems because people are going to think twice about who might be armed and the repercussions of their actions.
allen west
No, you're absolutely right.
elad eliahu
mister Weso, it's a little bit off topic, but I wanted to follow up with you on something that they said actually towards the end of this video.
So this federal officer was letting these young gentlemen know the pot laws surrounding DC that they're allowed to have have up to two ounces, which is a ton of pot, if people know anything about pot.
President Trump recently said that he was considering reclassifying pot.
This is a Wall Street Journal reporting that on the heels of the big pot donating millions of dollars to the president, he's considering reclassifying.
He was asked about this, considering reclassifying.
What do you think about the status of pot in our country and how it's progressed over the past few decades and different states have varying degrees of legality, but that definitely seems to be the direction we're heading in.
And the president didn't say no.
He said that he was considering it.
So what do you think about the direction of this stuff and the impact that it's having because you know, these guys could have up to two ounces of pot out there is what they do.
tim pool
Yeah, should pot be legal?
allen west
Well, I will tell you, you probably might be asking the wrong fellow.
I'm 64 years of age.
I never smoked, never drank, never did drugs in my life.
And I've seen the horrific effects that marijuana can have on people.
I look at it this way, if you go out and you are consuming marijuana, it still asks you on the 4473 form, are you taking marijuana?
So you are losing your Second Amendment right.
elad eliahu
That's the form you have to fill out when you buy a firearm.
allen west
So you're losing your Second Amendment right.
Or if you go in, you'll lie like Hunter Biden.
The other thing is that still to go into the United States military, they're going to ask you, are you under the influence of drugs?
Have you taken drugs?
Because that is still one of the gatekeepers.
So I am very concerned when I go out to Denver and I see what is happening there.
And I don't want to see an entire generation become, you know, wasted.
I really don't.
I mean, Cheech and Chong, it was a very funny couple of guys, but – It affects the ability of us to go and have men and women who stand on freedom's ramparts to protect our nation.
So it's a national security issue as well.
tim pool
Let's just talk about our friend Shaggy over there.
Everybody knows why Shaggy ate dog food.
Shaggy ate dog.
He did.
It's part of the cartoon.
unidentified
That's right.
tim pool
Shaggy ate dog food because he was stoned out of his mind and hungry.
And so he ate dog food.
allen west
Yeah.
tim pool
That's the lesson we told kids for the past fifty years.
unidentified
Yeah.
Okay.
tim pool
Would you have a problem?
elad eliahu
The president reclassified it.
allen west
I would I would scratch my head.
I remember I was on with John Stossel, you know, big oh yeah.
Yeah.
And he asked me the exact same question about how would you, you know, why would you restrict people in their freedom to be able to go out and smoke, you know, marijuana.
I said, look, if you want to go and stay in your house and smoke wheat, fine.
But when you walk outside your house, when you get behind a driver's wheel or something like that, you're now impacting my life.
And so that's one of the things that I look at.
If that's something you want to do, I understand your freedoms, your rights, then stay in your house, sleep it off or whatever.
But don't come out until you're, you know, out of the house and then affect other people's lives.
And that's why I'm a big thing about drinking and driving, because I've seen a lot of people that've lost their lives because of the irresponsibility.
And, you know, I just think that it, again, goes down a very, very bad slope.
I don't want to see a drugged out United States of America.
Go, go, Amsterdam.
Look at all these places where they just have the free drug use.
Not a good thing.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from KFOX 14.
unidentified
Uh oh.
tim pool
Attorney General Paxton seeks contempt charges against O'Rourke for violating court order.
Oh boy, as we know, Attorney General Ken Paxton says I'm taking action to hold Robert Francis O'Rourke in contempt for violating a court order and scamming Texans.
Beto is about to find out that running your mouth and ignoring the rule of law has consequences in Texas.
It's time to lock him up.
So he says less than twenty four hours.
Within 24 hours the temporary restraining order was signed, Robert Francis told a crowd of hundreds in Fort Worth that he would continue fundraising in violation of the restraining order because there are no refs in the game.
F the rules.
Robert Francis is wrong on both counts.
There is a referee, the honorable Megan Faye, and there are rules, namely that a person violating a temporary restraining order can be fined up to $500 and jailed for up to six months.
So basically what's happening is, um, these Democrats are, uh, they're, they're getting funding somewhere and it's to elicit, uh, uh, their violation of their, of their duty.
I, I, I want to see faster action on the, uh, the vacating of their seats in Texas.
For those that aren't familiar, these Democrats illicitly fled the state to avoid doing their duly elected duly sworn job, which is to represent their districts.
And they're doing it because they lost.
They lost the election.
Republicans have the majority and Republicans have decided to redistrict in the middle of the decade.
And they say, that's not fair.
You can't do that.
They can.
It's just, I don't know, violating decorum.
I guess it's not illegal in any way.
It's not unconstitutional.
It's not cheating.
It was always allowed and Democrats are mad that they lost the majority and Republicans have decided this is what they're going to do.
Beto O'Rourke responds saying he's lying about me to try to silence us.
Here's the full clip., I mean every word.
I apologize for making you listen to this man, but let's play the clip.
beto orourke
We want California and New Jersey and Illinois and Maryland and every other state where the Democrats hold the Governor's Mansion, the Assembly and the State Senate to redraw their congressional districts now, not wait for Texas to move first to maximize the Democratic Party advantage.
Listen, you may say to yourself, well, those are not the rules.
There are no refs in this game.
Fuck the rules.
We are going to win whatever it takes.
We are going to take this to them in every way that we can.
tim pool
He is not a gift.
phil labonte
He's not a gift.
tim pool
He's not another clip.
phil labonte
Republicans.
beto orourke
Beto O'Rourke has another clip saying something like: We're in a basketball game right now, if you'll excuse the metaphor, where the refs have left the arena and the other side is just clobbering the shit out of us.
Just hitting us in the face, kicking us in the nuts, and we're kind of throwing our hands up and we're asking the crowd, the people of America, Hey, do you see what's going on here?
This is unfair.
These are not the rules that we agreed to play by.
Well, who cares about the fucking rules right now?
Punch back, kick back, dunk over their heads and win some fucking power.
We're in a battle.
tim pool
I love how they arrested Trump's lawyers and had a manhunt for people who were peacefully protested on January 6, not the rioters calm down liberal media who are going to lie about what I'm saying.
The rioters should have gone to prison.
No, I'm talking about the people who showed up after the riots who had no idea what was going on and they got hunted down across the country.
What about the innocent women in Alaska when are home rated despite not even being in the capital?
And then, and then Beto has the nerve to be like, look what they are doing to us.
phil labonte
What when Beto O'Rourke got on stage and he was saying, hell yeah, we're going to come after your AK 47s.
Hell yeah, we're going to come after your AR 15s.
That was a gift to the Republican Party.
When he gets on stage and he says things like this, like break the rules considering Republicans know how much the Democrats have broken the rules in the past year.
It's a gift to the GOP.
Beto O'Rourke is one of the best things for the GOP because they can take the things that he says, the stupid, stupid things that he says, and make them into clips, make them into commercials, and they can use his idiocy against the Democrats.
And there are very few people that are as dumb and make as many dumb comments, counterproductive comments as Beto O'Rourke.
The only person that's better is Maxine Waters.
allen west
And Jasmine Crockett.
phil labonte
She's good.
allen west
Let me just break it down because obviously O'Rourke and we call him Bob Frank down there in Texas.
Blue states with zero Republican House seats Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Vermont, New Hampshire, Hawaii, New Mexico, Connecticut, Delaware, blue states with one Republican House seat, Maryland, Oregon, Maine, blue states with two to five Republican House seats, Colorado, Minnesota, Illinois, where Donald Trump won 44% in Illinois, but they only have two Republicans in their congressional delegation, Virginia and New Jersey, California, New York, I think they're like six or seven.
You know, right now Texas has 12.
Democrats in our congressional delegation.
One seat is vacant.
That was Sylvester Turner, a Democrat who passed in office.
So you could say 13.
We're talking about three to five seats.
And these people are going crazy over three to five seats.
They're going crazy because Republicans in Texas are doing, as Tim said, is not unconstitutional.
There's nothing wrong with it.
They are doing something that they have been consistently doing, and we're taking the fight to them.
These are the exact same people that say, we want DC as a state.
which you just talked about.
We want Puerto Rico as a state.
Why?
Because we want more congressional representation.
When we get back into power, we want six more Supreme Court justices so that we can control the Supreme Court.
We are the people that in the last census, we brought lawsuits because we wanted illegal immigrants to be counted in the census, which skews congressional representation.
Congressional representation should be based based upon citizenship.
I think California is overrepresented because that's what they're doing.
tim pool
I think it's census fraud.
allen west
It's totally census fraud.
tim pool
No, but I'm saying I think it goes beyond, you know, we often talk about this how they use illegal immigrants to pad the numbers.
allen west
Yes.
tim pool
And then I thought about it, I'm like, why even do that?
Why not just put fake numbers?
Who's checking the census?
Who's going to California and saying, let me make sure this household actually has five people in it?
Nobody.
So in California, the project is like, and just add a person in every household.
unidentified
Yeah.
allen west
And that's why they don't want Tom Holman in these sanctuary states and sanctuary cities.
Because again, these are people that they want to count.
So what, what, what, again is happening is Beto O'Rourke, Robert Francis, Bob Frank is projecting the fact that they're upset because it's being done to them and they have nowhere else to go.
The nine state Senate Democrats who left Texas and went to Massachusetts, when the idiot governor Mara Healy of Massachusetts stands up there and talks about they're going to find more districts to, you got zero.
phil labonte
Yeah.
That's a point that we've made here a couple of times so far.
Like there is no more, like there's no more that the Democrats can get out of gerrymandering.
It's it's it's they've maximized it it to the point where there's no juice to press out of it.
allen west
Yeah.
And Elbridge Jerry was from Massachusetts.
phil labonte
Yeah.
allen west
Just who that's named after.
elad eliahu
Mr West, just to play devil's advocate a little bit, do you have any concern that Democrats can use this as the pretext to eventually do other things that are sort of axis power politics, but they've already done it.
So like even they could, you know, next time they're in power, they could potentially even add more states.
They've talked about packing the Supreme Court.
allen west
Of course they're going to do that.
tim pool
The Supreme Court.
They arrested Trump's lawyers and put him in prison and tried to seize his properties.
We are well beyond any argument of oh no, Democrats might do do something else.
There's nothing left to do other than shoot people randomly.
And they would.
They arrested Trump's lawyer.
I'm wrong.
I'm sorry.
I take that back.
Anti-far leftists have already shot and killed people in the streets.
At the political level, they've arrested Trump's lawyers.
So this argument that, oh no, if Trump actually does something, Democrats might escalate to where?
Where are they going to go?
Where are they going to go from we arrested Trump's lawyers unconstitutionally and tried putting him in prison?
allen west
And that, that, what you just said has been a Republican mindset because we put these constraints on ourselves and say, now look, we don't need to go there and do that.
can be above that.
We can be better than that.
And you're giving them a gap.
That's just like saying in the battlefield, okay, maybe we should go and talk to the terrorists.
Maybe if we talk to them, maybe they won't hate us as much.
How's that working out for Israel and Hamas?
How's that worked out?
Not to dadgum will, okay?
October the 7th was a clear example.
There comes a time when you just got to say, it's time to crush them.
That's where we are.
phil labonte
Steamroll them.
tim pool
And a to stress This is all within the Constitution.
allen west
Yes.
tim pool
No one is saying that Trump should throw the Constitution away and then just start arresting people.
We're saying the DOJ should investigate.
I asked Sebastian Gorka today, do you believe he called these people, the Obamagate people, unconstitutional filth or something like that.
And I said, do you think they should be in prison?
He says, if they committed a crime and are charged and tried by a jury of their peers, I'm like, man, the right sure is holding back.
Even after everything the Democrats have done still with pending criminal charges against Trump, he appealed this and we've now been, it's been one year since the appeal was the court, the trial was heard, the appeal was heard and the judges have not issued a ruling.
They've just frozen in place.
It's because they're scared to take sides.
They can say, we're in New York, so if we go against Trump, the Democrats will come for us.
But if we go for Trump,, the Democrats will come for us.
If we go against Trump, Trump will come for us.
Let's just do nothing.
They're trying to put Trump in prison even right now.
And the moment he leaves, they're going to try to put him in prison again.
And Republicans are still saying, let's just go through the DOJ, do the standard process.
And that's what Trump is doing.
Deploying the National Guard is well within his authority, and they're acting like it's a fascist takeover when it's well within codified law.
The Insurrection Act hasn't even been invoked yet.
Trump deployed the Marines to LA to guard federal buildings, which is still within his rights as president.
These far left extremists in 2020 tried burning down Saint John's Church.
They set it on fire.
They threw fire bombs on the White House grounds, torched a guard post and the left does not care.
So there's nowhere for them to go at this point.
If Trump upholds law, even if Trump actually violated the constitution, which they lie, he's not, then what do we say?
The Democrats have violated the constitution every way from Sunday.
And if Trump started now, we're going to be like, oh, geez, oh, heavens, help me.
It's going to be, well, that was the escalation we all saw coming.
So I commend Trump for not doing that.
And for the Republicans not doing that.
And I genuinely thought Seb Gorka was going to say, lock them up and throw away the key.
They didn't.
He said, they should, if they've committed crimes, we'll have a jury trial.
And I'm like, no, there you go.
Still, the right is trying.
to maintain control.
And you know what, you know why it is?
Because Trump and the right want the country to exist.
And that means the foundation of it, its common, English common law and the constitution have to be preserved.
So those are the moves that he's making.
I'm for it.
phil labonte
I mean, like we've said multiple times already tonight, but like the Republicans are in power.
They have the Congress, they have, or both houses of Congress, they have the executive branch steamroll the Democrats.
allen west
And Supreme Court.
phil labonte
Yeah, and Supreme Court steamroll them, just steamroll over them.
allen west
Constitutionally steamroll them.
Everybody, I mean, we're not just talking about constitutionally steamroll them.
phil labonte
Pass legislation that the Republicans and Conservatives want.
tim pool
It's not going to go easy.
Take a look at this story from Fox News.
DC paid protest requests surge 400 percent amid Trump's federal takeover of city police crowd company.
CEO says vast majority of political event attendees in Washington are paid in some way.
You know, there's a book called, what is it called?
Confessions of an Economic Hitman.
And this guy's been interviewed.
I forgot his name, but he talks about how what the US would do in foreign countries to overthrow these color revolutions is.
You hire about a thousand people to protest and you film them rioting and you get a tight shot.
You then report it's hundreds of thousands of people.
The average person sees the video and says in their mind, like, they think, wow, look at this massive unrest.
It must be everywhere when in fact it's only a thousand people.
During Occupy Wall Street, various news outlets did something really funny.
There'd be these massive protesters marching on the street.
They would wait until the very end.
So you'd only see like 15 people and they would call that the protest.
Because these news organizations didn't want to say that there were actually 2,000 people marching through the street, whatever your opinion on Occupy Wall Street is.
So when you learn about these paid protest or requests.
Let's just say that there are powers upset over Donald Trump's actions, don't want him to win, and they will do everything in their power to fabricate the perception that regular people oppose Trump, be it through phony polls or paid protesters.
allen west
No, you're spot on.
I mean, you know, when you see these people, they all show up, they're all chanting the same thing.
I just saw recently that, you know, in DC, a bunch of folks showing up and they came up with this horrible song about, you know, DC is our home.
You can't have it, Trump.
He doesn't want DC.
If anything, he's trying to protect you in your home so that you have safety and security.
But again, you see the nice.
handbill signs and all this stuff because there's a machine.
It's just the same as how did all of a sudden these cinder blocks appear out in Los Angeles?
How did these bricks?
Yeah, how did these bricks appear?
tim pool
Every time there's a big protest, someone notices there's big pallets of bricks just ploped right near the march route.
And then the media just says, totally normal, ignore it.
It's normal to have bricks placed next to buildings without reason.
Yeah, yeah, sure.
allen west
Not a construction site.
tim pool
Right.
elad eliahu
I think there's been a lot of panic fatigue that's set in on the left.
I think it's fascinating the difference between the protest movements in Trump one versus Trump two.
I remember tens of thousands of people, huge women's marches.
Regularly there would be these anti-Trump marches.
I feel like there was more buzz around what he was doing in the first administration regarding ICE and deportations than there is now.
I think people had maxed out how much they could be panicked about the president and they saw that, you know, he did a relatively good job the first term.
Even if you're a Democrat, you saw that and again, you see people fear mongering around every other thing that the president does and everything turns out to be fine.
So I think it's fascinating.
allen west
And I just think that when you got the thing up there, we refuse to accept a fascist America.
So where was that sign when Joe Biden was telling us what type of showerhead we could have?
Where was that sign when Joe Biden was telling light bulbs, how much toilet water we could flush, what type of car we could have, what type of dishwasher we could have?
You know, again, it just comes back to this mentality that what we do is right.
What we do, you have to accept.
But if you stand in opposition.
to what we seek to do, you're a threat to democracy, you're a fascist, you're a Nazi, you're all of these different types, and Nazis still for National Socialists anyhow.
But it's all of these different things.
And we do a, I almost said a bad word, we do a not good job of really bringing out the stupidity of that.
Everybody on every right.
Every right-side conservative media outlet should be saying, this is how you define a fascist.
Defining a fascist is when you go to social media companies and you say, don't let them say this.
Don't let them talk about COVID.
Censor them.
Kick them off.
I mean, I don't see Donald Trump saying any of those type of things.
So we have got to do a better job of, you know, stop allowing them to project on us.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
I don't know that there's any change coming from the Democrats.
I think the most committed, they've been operating from the same playbook for the better part of a decade and I don't see how there's going to be any kind of significant change in the way they operate.
And this is part of the civil war that's going on in the Democratic Party.
There are reasonable Democrats that are like, we have to stop this.
The cancel culture didn't work.
We have to get away from the extreme trans LGBT stuff.
We have to get away from the defund the police.
These things are not popular with the American people.
But the activists and the people that are the most vocal in the Democratic Party are having none of it.
allen west
Yeah, they are.
And it goes back to Tim's point is that when you lose an election like you lost in November 2024 and you come back and say, nah, we're not going to double down.
We're not going to triple down.
We're going to quadruple down on all of that stuck on stupid stuff that caused us to get our butts handed to us.
There's no place to go.
There's no debate.
There's no discussion to be had.
tim pool
I think everything's fake.
I talked about it quite a bit today because one thing that we're starting to see, which is very strange to a lot of people, is that a lot of people are freaking out because their view counts on social media have been declining rapidly.
And even some of the biggest podcasts in the world, their view counts are very low.
And these are not political shows.
So the question is, what's going on here?
What's going on here?
It's not, it's, it's, you know, we've seen a slight decline.
for the most part.
I will stress to a lot of people that aren't familiar.
We we we've split the live show between Rumble now.
So right now on YouTube, we've got 25 and on Rumble, we've got 25.
So that's about normal for us.
50,000 live viewers concurrent.
We've been kind of okay, but views are generally down across the board without naming anybody because I don't want to start any beef.
Some of the biggest shows that used to get millions are getting hundreds of thousands.
And all of a sudden, people start asking questions about what's really going on.
I had a conversation with a few big YouTubers and other social personalities like Instagram and TikTok, and they're saying that their view counts and everything are going down.
Not even political content.
So what is happened this year, I wonder if the reality is that during political seasons, like we're seeing with these paid protesters, let me just put it this way, if they're going to pay people to show up and look like they care about a cause, don't you think they'd pay for bots to make it look like their cause is popular and the reason why we may be seeing total across the board view counts go down is because the bots are no longer operating maybe it's usa id i don't know that's a good point i mean I
phil labonte
don't know if it's USAID or not, but I mean, I imagine that the fact that USAID doesn't continue to grease the wheels is having an effect, right?
allen west
No, it could, without a doubt, because we found a lot of things about USAID that was not about international development.
I mean, it was more so about pushing a certain agenda.
tim pool
And if money from USAID found its way into the pockets of NGOs, one of the ways that you try to manipulate the public into thinking an idea is popular is if someone makes videos about environmentalism, you make sure they're getting lots of views so that other young people say, this is what will get you views and people start following and they adopt those views to try and look popular.
That's the sock puppet game.
It's the same thing as paying people to protest.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Look, there are a lot of people that are very quick to adopt the opinions of the people that surround them or the people they want to be around, right?
allen west
Bird mentality.
phil labonte
Yeah, it's definitely a normal thing to see people that are of a political stripe and they'll have similar opinions, but when they get into a crowd, they all have the same opinions.
And it's something that you see on the left strongly nowadays because the left will kick you out and cancel you or whatever.
We had Angela Bellucamino on Friday, I think it was Friday.
And she used to be, her brand is the boldest.
liberal woman, right?
And that's been her thing for a long time.
And as soon as she started saying, well, this is a little too far for me, Democrats.
I'm not on board with this particular thing and I'm not on board with this particular thing, she was treated terribly and she got the same kind of things that any other, any conservative would get, like she gets called a Nazi and gets insulted.
And that's just standard operating procedure from the left.
If you step out of line, the left attacks you in the only way they know how, which is to demonize you in totality.
They're not like, oh, that's a bad opinion.
I think you really should rethink that.
No, you're a Nazi, you know?
allen west
You know, what's the Saul Allensky rules for radicals thing?
Yeah.
Is you, it's about the politics and the policy of character assassination.
I don't want to have a debate with you because I know that I cannot debate with you because my ideals and my ideas suck.
So what I'm going to do, I'm going to demonize you.
I'm going to denigrate you.
I'm going to disparage you.
You know, look, Uncle Tom, sell out, Oreo, Coon, white man's porch monkey, you know, all that kind of crazy stuff.
It doesn't make any sense because what you're telling me is that I'm winning the argument.
When you have relegated yourself to just name calling, I'm just.
going to put the pedal to the metal.
And I think that, again, what Tim is saying is that all of a sudden we're starting to see an effect out there because they're not able to interject themselves in there by way of these bots and things of this nature because we've gotten to the core of it.
When you go after NPR, when you go after some of these other platforms that were government sponsored propaganda machines, it is having an effect on them.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I think another thing we're seeing too is with the Corporation for Public Broadcasting being shut down recently.
A lot of people are saying USAID, but can we point to the Corporation for Public Broadcasting shutting down?
down and then once again it looks like certain viewership and certain shows are starting to dry up.
Makes you wonder.
allen west
Look at Howard Stern.
I mean, that guy went from tens of millions to what?
A few hundred thousand.
tim pool
I mean, that seems like generational and technological though for the most part, but he shifted in 2016.
He went super straight laced and boring.
allen west
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
allen west
Well, he he thought he was getting on with the popular herd Steven.
All the rest of his knuckles and they were wrong.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from foxnews dot com DC police chief ripped for mind blowing response to basic policing question.
Oh yeah.
let's see if uh let's uh here we go roll tape i said roll tape fox news what does that mean well was it can't bond Let's try that.
Okay.
Let's try that again because we can't hear it.
Fox, your website is terrible.
unidentified
What does that mean?
Well, is it Pambod?
tim pool
Okay.
This is a terrible video.
Basically, someone asked her, can you tell us the chain of command now?
And she said, what does that mean?
And everybody is losing it.
Because she's the police chief.
phil labonte
She.
tim pool
Well, is it she?
What's the implication there, Phil?
phil labonte
I have unpopular opinions about women in.
the police force?
tim pool
Unpopular?
phil labonte
Well, unpopular or popular.
Popular with probably our audience, but unpopular on the broadcast.
tim pool
I don't think so.
I don't think you're very popular.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, I don't think that women should be police officers.
I don't think that women should be firefighters.
I don't think that women should be in combat roles in the military.
If you want to look, if you want to work in logistics, that's fine.
If you're going to, if you want to work dispatch, that's fine.
Actual beat police officers.
And I don't think that there should be anyone that's a police chief unless they have been a beat police officer, unless they know and they've been a detective and actually have done police work.
So let's, let's turn the volume up on you.
tim pool
And see if we can hear this.
unidentified
Tell us what the chain of command is now.
What is chain of command now?
What does that mean?
Well, is it Pam Bondi speaking to the mayor of Alamou or how does this work?
So the executive order is clear.
tim pool
The president She didn't even answer.
I don't know if I right away want to say that she doesn't know what chain of command means.
I think she was asking when someone said, What is the chain of command now?
She was like, What do you mean?
Like, what is it now?
It's not.
You think she actually doesn't know what a chain of command is?
allen west
Yes.
Okay.
I mean, I don't know.
tim pool
Maybe I'm too charitable.
unidentified
You are.
allen west
You're throwing that lifeline at it.
unidentified
No.
allen west
I mean, she had the deer in the headlights look.
tim pool
That's true.
She did, like she doesn't understand what she's being asked at all.
Yeah.
And to be fair, even if it was that she was asking, that was an Aleppo moment.
unidentified
That, like, you know, absolutely, I remember that.
tim pool
You should have said, in terms of the chain of command for the city, it's remained largely the same, but we will be taking guidance from the federal government, right?
So she, either way, it was a miserable response, but you know what, maybe I shouldn't be so charitable and I should actually understand the possibility that the police chief of DC doesn't know what a chain of command is.
allen west
Well, you know, it's the DC police chief who has one of her subordinates that has been placed on paid administrative leave because he was cooking quick.
Crime statistics.
So supposedly that's part of her chain of command, but maybe she didn't know that.
phil labonte
I mean, just the fact that DC has been cooking crime statistics is an indictment of the leadership, right?
It's an indictment of the people that are actually running the DC police department, the Metro police department, and they should all lose their jobs.
In my opinion, if you're if you have to if you're lying to the police, the citizens of DC, then they should lose their jobs.
They're not fit for purpose.
The police aren't there to make to make nice sounding reports.
They're there to actually protect the citizens.
And this is the Soviet is Sovietization of the Metro.
The Soviet Union used to do this stuff all the time.
They would instead of actually being honest about whatever the crime, whatever statistics it was, and it was it was ubiquitous across the throughout the Soviet Union, but it's something that has been happening more and more in the United States.
Instead of actually telling the truth, the authorities, what, you know, whatever specific arena you're talking about, they just lie about the statistics, whether it be the FBI lying about crime statistics or municipalities lying about statistics or job statistics.
Job statistics or they just don't report stuff to the FBI.
So that way, the actual information that's com coming out is erroneous.
That's something that the Soviet Union was doing.
This is the left, this is part and parcel with the leftist influence in the administration of municipalities and states.
And I also would venture to say that this is probably because of DEI as well.
DEI initiatives, you put people that are unqualified in positions based on whatever their identity is.
They don't have the ability to do the job or they're not carrying out the job properly.
So they have to lie.
So that way it doesn't look like they're unable to do their job.
allen west
Yeah.
And we saw that with the fire chief and the deputy assistant fire chief out there in LA doing those fires.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah, that's exactly one of the things that I was thinking of.
tim pool
Didn't she get fired or something?
allen west
I'm not sure if she did get fired.
tim pool
Yeah.
It's a really weird phenomenon where they're like, I don't care if you can do the job, so long as you're the right identity.
And then instead of having a bricklayer lay bricks, they have a fat woman lay bricks.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And you're like, Does she know how to do it?
No, but it's morally right.
allen west
Yeah.
Well, there are no qualifications or standards.
I mean, we saw that in the military, you know, during Obama's years, when all of a sudden, we're going to put women in these, in the Ranger School.
We're going to put women in all of these different things, but they're going to have a little bit of a different standard.
You know, no one had ever heard of a general walking patrol lanes at Ranger School until there were that very first few females going through Ranger School.
And why do you think a general was walking patrol lanes at Ranger School?
You know.
Yeah, that's that's what you're talking about.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
allen west
And I totally disagree with that.
There should be one standard.
When I went through jump master school, didn't care male, female, however big you were, if you couldn't do what was necessary to be an airborne jump master.
tim pool
It's like there's like a pickle jar factory and they're like, we could hire a bunch of guys, but we legally have to hire a bunch of women and then no one can open the pickle jars, you know?
elad eliahu
I don't know guys, don't I have the right to be arrested and shot at by a female cop?
It's more likely that you'll be shot at by a few cops or say that there is a fire in the case of a fire by a female cop or die in arms.
tim pool
Okay, okay.
Is it true that female cops shoot people more often?
phil labonte
It's anecdotal evidence, but women do not have the same physical capabilities as men and they're more likely to go to deadly force.
If something like the taser fails them, they can't go hands on with a guy in the same way that a, you know, a large guy.
And look, I'm not a big guy.
I shouldn't be a cop, right?
Like, I mean, even though I'mm weighing at 1,70, but like, I shouldn't be a cop just because a big dude's going to have way more leverage over you.
allen west
Yeah, but you got that center of gravity, man.
You could take you.
phil labonte
Fair, I mean, fair enough.
But the point that I'm making is like, women are smaller and weaker, and I would prefer to see police officers that are big dudes that are able to physically restrain people because that is actually safer for the criminals as well.
If the police officer is confident and competent and he can, he knows that he can restrain a person, he doesn't have to go for deadly force.
He doesn't have to go for pain response as much.
He can wrap them up.
It's more likely that he could wrap them up and just use his physical size to restrain them.
That's good for the police officer and it's good for whoever's being arrested or whoever's being taken in custody.
elad eliahu
So while I believe that the defund the police movement widely fizzled out, I think they were still extremely effective at doing one thing, and that is demoralize police departments across the country.
I think many of our police departments across the country are extremely demoralized.
People don't want to be cops anymore.
Cops are treated very poorly.
In the NYPD, I believe there's a staff shortage.
They are not meeting recruiting numbers.
I think this is across the board, too, in law enforcementcement.
I think that's the same thing.
allen west
You saw that in the military.
So you saw in the military, we did not make recruiting numbers during the Biden AutoPan administration.
Then of course you get a change of leadership and it's totally different.
Look at all these people that are coming back to the border patrol now.
I mean coming back to ICE.
tim pool
But the left was like, I gotta fact check for you, Phil, because I want to know.
And I first asked ChatGPT, do female officers shoot more?
And it was giving me wishy washy garbage answers, which led me to believe it's probably true.
Because when ChatGPT, when I asked ChatGPT, do female officers have more shooting incidents than male officers?
And it goes, well, the thing is., and then it gave me this real big, long breakdown.
And then I said, just tell me yesterday it says, no, female officers are less likely to use force.
So I said, okay, I'm going to Venice.ai because this is legit uncensored.
And it actually agreed.
It says based on available data female officers are less likely to use lethal force or shoot suspects compared to men.
phil labonte
Okay, fair enough.
tim pool
But I mean, let's be real.
Phil, let's say you were wrongly approached by a male cop, right?
There's nothing you can do.
But if it was a lady cop, she can't stop you.
You can walk away.
You can briskly walk and she'll stumble and fall.
phil labonte
There are plenty of videos on the internet of people just disregarding orders from a female police officer, whether it be just driving away or walking away.
And if it becomes a physical confrontation, the woman is at a disadvantage.
tim pool
There's that famous viral video where two lady cops are trying to arrest a guy and he just shoves him off and then runs away and they drop their cuffs on the ground and he just bolts through the park and they get in their car and chase him.
The guy filming is like, What the?
But there's tons of these videos out of the UK especially where two lady cops are trying to arrest a guy and he's just punching him in the face and beating him.
They can't do anything about it, dude.
elad eliahu
Well, they don't even have guns, I believe, in the UK, right?
phil labonte
Not your regular beat cops, but there are special police officers nowadays, especially considering the knife crime that are walking around with like MP5s and stuff like that.
So they're not the regular, like I don't think they actually have like the same kind of bobbies they should.
elad eliahu
So it's the standards, right, that we have a problem with, not that they're actually literally women that they would just need to meet the same standards just as men do.
Or is there something beyond that?
Because in certain cases and certain issues, I think it does go beyond the physical abilities.
phil labonte
If I call the police and I need help from a police officer, I don't want it to be a woman.
I want a big dude to show up.
That's just the way that it is.
elad eliahu
That's how I feel about bosses.
All of my female bosses, horrible experiences with weird dynamic going on.
With a male boss, that's my bro, you know, it's different a different dynamic.
I could slap him on the arm.
It's not weird.
I could say weird jokes around him.
Tim's not going to look at me funny.
If it was a female, totally different dynamic.
I feel uncomfortable.
It's like, am I flirting with you?
Am I talking with you?
Why don't you have a community like that?
phil labonte
I don't have a problem with females in the workplace.
I just think that there are certain jobs that I wouldn't want.
Like if there's a fire and I'm calling the fire department, I don't want four women to jump off the fire truck and be like, here we go.
I want dudes that could carry me and my girlfriend out of the house or carry a big dude out of the house.
And you saw that with like Alan was saying, the fire chief was.
was actually said in California actually said, Oh, if I have to carry a big man out of the fire out of the house, he did something wrong.
That's ridiculous.
That's unacceptable.
She should lose her job just for saying that.
elad eliahu
Unfire men like, and I mean, again, they're fire men, not fire women, guys.
Come on.
It's in the name.
allen west
When I was in Congress, I was on the Armed Services Committee and I was on the Military Personnel Subcommittee and I got asked the whole question about, you know, women being in combat roles.
And I just asked a very simple question.
Why do we have male and female downhill skiing?
elad eliahu
Because men and women are different.
allen west
Yeah.
If you have male and female downhill skiing.
How are you going to sit here and tell me that, you know, we should have ladies, young women in the infantry or in the Rangers or Special Forces or Navy SEALs?
You know, we have male and female water polo.
elad eliahu
When you served, were there any women in any of your units?
and did that affect group dynamic?
No, that happened after...
allen west
Infantry units, all guys.
Now that that has changed and it has caused some interesting problems.
elad eliahu
Interesting dynamics.
I heard women might be...
There's like some biological basis for women being better pilots.
Have you ever heard this stuff?
Do you think there's a I don't know.
allen west
I always tell people I was too stupid to fly planes, but I was smart enough to jump out of them.
So look, I mean, there are some people that have that ability.
I don't know if women do better than men.
I don't know.
But I will tell you, it's all about a standard.
You know, if you can fly a dad gum attack helicopter, all I want is when I call and say put some rounds on the bad guy over there, I want to make sure the rounds go on the bad guy.
That's it.
phil labonte
I wouldn't have any problem with like females that are piloting planes or piloting choppers.
That's perfectly fine.
Like, they're just pulling the trigger and stuff.
That's fine.
elad eliahu
Law enforcement is so demoralized.
Can we even be choosy at this point?
We aren't meeting the requirements for recruitment in the Army and the police department.
allen west
No, we're meeting the Army numbers now.
elad eliahu
Okay.
phil labonte
I would make the argument that now it's more important because if you have fewer police officers, they have to be more competent.
elad eliahu
I agree.
I'm making the argument.
allen west
Let's just go back to that clip that Tim showed us of the federal law enforcement agents going up to those.
those guys.
He had a presence about him.
He had a command authority about him.
They were not going to bump their gums and they're not going to disregard they're not going to say anything you know trivial and you know brush them off he looked like i can i can bring the heat and that's why they sat and they listened and And in certain ways, you get more respect by how you carry yourself.
I can say that having sat in meetings with like 60 to 70 Sunni sheikhs, they're looking to you and they're looking to see, is this someone that is serious?
This is someone that, you know, is physically capable and also mentally capable.
elad eliahu
Yeah.
tim pool
Let's jump to this story from the New York Post.
British cops wore jogging outfits to elicit cat calls and then arrested some men who hit on them.
phil labonte
You can do nothing better to do, right?
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
The UK is conquered, it's a failed state, and while grooming gangs go free and get slaps on the wrist, lady cops jog around and then when someone hollers at them, they arrest them.
So the UK, you're a conquered nation, and I feel bad for you.
phil labonte
You know, you mentioned people hollering at lady cops, and the scenario that we just saw that Alan was mentioning as well.
If there were lady cops that walked up to seven dudes that are sitting on a front porch, you know they're going to be making, you know, derogatory remarks.
They're not going to be listening to the police officers.
They are police officers, yes.
But young dudes like that, they're going to flirt with them or whatever, and they're going to treat them like women before they treat them like police officers.
That's just the way that young guys act, especially in front of, you know, when they've got their friends around, they're going to make remarks.
That's what young dudes like that will do, you know, like you don't want us, you don't want to put people in those situations where they have to kind of, you know, escalate the situation.
Because if they're just like, oh, we're not going to listen to you, then the police officer has to escalate the situation.
allen west
But you know what's interesting about this story, Tim, is that okay, you go and get police officers to come out in jogging outfits so that they can have some people yell cat calls at them.
But you got a rape culture that is happening in England and you're just dismissing it.
You're allowing roving bands of people to rape young women and you're dismissing it.
tim pool
This is what happens when you let, we call them awful, affluent white female liberals get in charge.
They're dismissive of the poor oppressed.
Muslim rape gangs and they're angry at the white supremacist patriarchy.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Now the reality is I think they want to exert.
some kind of authority and they know that they're not going to be able to in the Muslim community and the Pakistani community, but they know that they can arrest a white man and get away with it.
allen west
Well, it's interesting because I'm looking over here and I see you got a book called No Go Zones by who?
elad eliahu
Rahim Qasam, I believe right there.
allen west
And so again, so it's more important that we entrap guys that are just cat calling some women that are running in tights than we go in and we say, you're going to abide by English common law.
You're not going to come in here and set up some Sharia law.
You're not going to come in here and have these roving gangs that are raping young people English women.
You're right, Europe is done.
If this is what they're going to resort to?
phil labonte
I don't know.
tim pool
I heard that Marine Le Pen's party is beating Macron's.
The right-wing shift has been happening in Europe for some time, and people are saying enough to the just the conquering of their nations.
allen west
Yeah, because that's the reason why you've got Macron, you've got Starmer, you've got who in Carney in Canada.
Now all of a sudden they're saying, yeah, we're going to recognize the Palestinians.
Australia is another one because they have allowed people to come into their country and do exactly that.
And but yet they're focusing on, like you said, the white patriarchy.
You, you're the bad guy.
tim pool
Don't look at me.
I'm mixed race.
I get a free pass.
And Ilad's Jewish, so he's one or the other depending on whether they hate Israel or like Israel.
I think actually you're screwed a lot.
allen west
But even George Zimmerman was a white Hispanic.
unidentified
That's true.
allen west
So be careful.
tim pool
That's true.
And he was not white.
allen west
No, not where near it.
tim pool
And it's funny because I like to shout out Luke Rudkowski, who's blonde hair, blue eyed white guy.
But because he's Polish, he's considered a person of color in to the left.
phil labonte
He's a Slavic man.
tim pool
Yep.
Slavs are considered people of color because they're oppressed.
That's where the word slave comes from.
allen west
That'ss right.
tim pool
So he's he's oppressed.
phil labonte
Poor, poor Luke Rudkowski.
allen west
I know.
tim pool
I know.
We need to do one of those Sarah McLachlan fundraiser videos for poor, oppressed Luke Rutkowski.
phil labonte
In the arms of an angel playing.
And just all these slow shots of Luke Rutkowski.
tim pool
Eating beans out of a can cold and whatever it is he's doing down in Florida.
phil labonte
Poor Luke.
I wonder if he's in the chat today.
tim pool
He's probably in the chat.
He's probably going to respond with, yes, give me money.
phil labonte
You know, take advantage of it, Luke.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
I back it.
tim pool
But this is what the UK has become.
You know, once a nation so grandly, great they invented chicken tikka masala now that's true.
Now it is crime is rampant in the cities.
If you go online and say naughty words, you'll go to prison.
phil labonte
In the UK, you are eight times more likely to be jailed for a social media post than in Russia.
elad eliahu
Is that true?
What's the source?
phil labonte
Well, the source that I got is Constantine Kissin from the...
In Russia, they don't even I don't think that they even I don't think they would even say, oh yes, we have free speech in Russia.
I think most Russians know that there are things you can't say.
And if you do say certain things that you might get thrown off a building or whatever, you'll disappear.
Yeah.
But in the UK, they'll say, no, we have free speech.
But yet they jail people for Facebook posts.
And it's, it's, they're doing, it's a lot of them.
I think like 400 people.
Yeah, last year in 2000, this was in 2018 that it was in 2018, 400 people in Russia were jailed and I believe let's see where is it three thousand three hundred in the UK no more rule Britannia huh?
No, no.
elad eliahu
What a fall from grace from global hegemon colonizing all of the world.
I believe it was the first major empire to abolish slavery.
phil labonte
Yeah, well not the first it was like the first empire at all.
They were the first human beings to abolish slavery.
And they went around the world and did it.
Like it wasn't just the UK, it wasn't just like Britain that it happened in, it was all of the colonies.
So they were.
They were, you know, on the cutting edge of that.
elad eliahu
And now you get arrested for talking shit on Facebook over there accordingly.
phil labonte
Which is absurd.
And you'd think that the people in charge, like politicians, you'd think that they would be embarrassed by this.
You'd think that the rest they would think, well, the rest of the world is looking at us, but it seems like they, it doesn't affect them or it doesn't change them.
tim pool
Do you think, Phil, that what's happening around the world with moves like this is that aliens have taken over our governments and are trying to prevent us from reaching the moon and Mars?
phil labonte
I mean, I think that you know my take on whether or not there have been aliens.
here.
So no, I don't think it's aliens.
tim pool
I think it's aliens are actually happy for us to reach, you know, galactic status, but we're just screwing up ourselves.
phil labonte
Yeah, I think it is.
I think it definitely think that it's human beings.
I think that aliens have not reached Earth at all, personally.
tim pool
I don't know, man.
I heard stories, you know, from Shane.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I love Shane.
He's so much fun.
You should all tuned in.
It's funny because Inverted World Live at 10:10 pm tonight.
tim pool
It's a, it's, it's like a cognitive test when I say stupid things on Twitter and then the media reports it as if it's a fact.
And my favorite is when liberals do it.
There was one time I tweeted it should be illegal to believe in God and I tweeted immediately it should be illegal to not believe in God and these liberals posted on Reddit and they were like Tim Poole, so dumb can you believe it?
And I just love looking at the comments from people who are like, please for the love of God, he posted both.
He's screwing with you.
You're falling for his trap, but they don't they don't listen because they're too dumb and I'm just sitting back being like, heh, jokes on you.
I was just pretending to be retarded.
allen west
You are retarded.
phil labonte
Retarded for believing it or not seeing that it was a joke.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, yeah, but the reason I did those tweets, I literally explained why I was doing them.
I said, I can put these two tweets out that are inversions of each other and only one is going to echo out in you know in each space and the liberals of course took the one that was cannon fodder for them and decided they hate me despite not actually following me or knowing anything about me and it's just fake tribal cult BS the right didn't do that the left did and that's that's where we're at right now so when I look at the UK I you know it really does seem to me like whether it's behavioral
sync like the rat utopia or there is some powerful force saying we need to retard the development of the UK, they're moving down a path that will just destroy their culture.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, the left has been in society.
The left has been in charge for thirty years.
Even the right wing in the UK is very left-leaning.
They don't have a competent actual conservative party.
The conservatives in the UK are like Democrats here.
tim pool
Have you seen what's up?
Have you seen Kingsman?
phil labonte
Pardon me?
tim pool
Have you seen Kingsman?
phil labonte
Yeah, I saw it a while ago.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Have you seen Kingsman?
Good movie.
And the funny thing is at the end, it turns out that the British, you know, Arthur who was leading the Kingsman, actually was a bad guy too.
Because when the bad guy explained to him what was going on in the world and what they were going to do, he went, you know what what, you're right.
And so for those who don't know the movie, a tech billionaire wants to, he believes that the earth is overheating because it's got a virus, which is humans, and humans need to be purged.
And so this tech billionaire wants to get just to purge a lot of regular people all around the world.
And there's a there's a unaffiliated private secret service called Kingsman.
There's secret agents that stop bad guys from destroying the world.
And it turns out the guy who runs it actually agrees, the tech billionaire who wants to cull the planet and secretly helps them do it.
And then a rogue agent, the main character, ends up shutting them down.
But the point is, could it be as simple as the bad guys go to King Charles and say, we want to kill as many of your people as possible because there's too many people on the planet?
And he goes, okay, you're right.
And that's what we get.
Or I should say, that's what the UK gets.
allen west
Well, some people would say that was the nexus of COVID and people like our tech billionaire, mister what's Microsoft?
phil labonte
Bill Gates.
allen west
Some of the things that he pushes.
I'm not eating bugs, Bill.
Just not.
I'm from down south.
I know that you said, you know, bacon is overrated.
Don't ever go down to Georgia and say bacon is overrated.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
Oh man, bacon's great.
We got a spot over here, cider Cider Press, this restaurant in the area.
Great.
And they have bacon wrapped apples.
phil labonte
I think they're going to start making smash burgers again as well.
tim pool
They don't have smash burgers?
phil labonte
No, I actually have.
They'll make them for you if you ask for it.
I specifically was like, would you make a smash burger?
And they're like, yeah.
And they've talked about bringing them back on the menu.
tim pool
And like, smash the onions right into it?
I'm going to tell them to do that.
phil labonte
It's awesome.
They're super good.
tim pool
Interesting.
See, the secret to a smash burger is to smash the burger.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
And then it makes it crispy.
phil labonte
Yeah, you gotta and you gotta let it cook long enough too.
That's one thing that a lot of places don't do.
They don't let them actually build up that crust on the outside.
That's right.
From cooking it from real char.
You gotta have that hot hot crust.
tim pool
I want to talk about this.
We got one more segment.
This is the great Luboo Boo heist.
30,000 dollars of stolen Luboo Boos recovered in major California bust.
Outstanding teamwork and bringing this case to a close.
I think Luboo Boos, I don't think they're demonic.
And I think it's these liberals that are these liberals are putting out this thing where take a look at this.
Fans burn Luboo Boo toys fear they resemble Demon Pazuzu sparking lively debate in China.
And it's happening here where people are claiming, conservatives, that Luboo Boos are demonic.
And I don't think they're literally demonic, but there are conservatives that are burning laboo booths because they think it's Pazuzu.
But it is cringe demonic in the figurative sense that women are replacing, you know, they're like Mary Morgan talks about this, the desire to have babies has been replaced by these little gremlin dolls and cats.
allen west
That's weird.
That's weird.
So they want a gremlin doll instead of having a child.
tim pool
I mean, it is cringe.
But you know what's really funny too?
Remember when women were buying those thermoses?
phil labonte
Oh yeah, the Stanley Cups, yeah.
tim pool
Stanley Cups.
When I first heard that women wanted a Stanley Cup, I was like, a NHL thingL thing.
Isn't that what you get when you win?
Isn't that what it is?
phil labonte
My first thought was the tool manufacturing company, Stanley, because they make tool.
There's a company made called Stanley.
tim pool
Don't they also make those cups?
phil labonte
I don't know.
Are they a company?
Okay, all right, okay.
tim pool
The Stanley Cup was NHL and I was like, women really love hockey, I guess.
And then I was like, Oh, they're just fighting each other and beating each other in the face because they want a cup.
unidentified
Cup.
phil labonte
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
What's going on with women, dude?
La Boo Boos, Stanley Cups?
phil labonte
I think it's just something that they use as an excuse to be pissed off at each other.
elad eliahu
I think it's a substitute for your personality.
It's like, Oh, you don't have any depth to your personality.
Oh, I have a, I have a big jug of water that I drink from.
Oh, look at these, what are they?
Little collectible dolls essentially?
phil labonte
Yeah, they're I mean they're gremlins.
elad eliahu
Little gremlin dolls?
tim pool
You know why you know why they say that women like cats so much and that childless women have a bunch of cats?
Because cats trigger something similar in the human mind that babies do by having big eyes and little faces.
phil labonte
Neonotany.
tim pool
Is that what it's called?
phil labonte
What is it called?
Neonotany.
tim pool
Neonotany.
Oh, I get like, neo like baby.
Yeah.
elad eliahu
I do think there's a weird trend of people in their twenties and thirties getting a dog to sort of replace that urge, I think, to take care of something.
Especially in New York, dog parks are full of young women with their puppies.
I don't know, maybe looking for mates or maybe just filling the void with a dog.
tim pool
While conservatives would say that labubu's are demonic and they're symbols of pazuzu, I would actually just argue that this, along with all the other phenomena, is figuratively demonic in that humans are no longer having babies and fertility is not recovering.
Aside from the fact that fertility isn't recovering, smaller generations begets smaller generations.
So if the fertility rate of millennials is 1.45, right?
allen west
Yeah, you need 2.1.
tim pool
Indeed, then millennials are going to make 69.
Well, actually, the fertility rate of millennials was 1, which is insane that is there's 80 million millennials and 40 million gen alpha so millennials who are largely having the gen alpha had only one kid fertility is still dropping so when gen alpha comes of age in the next several years so maybe in five to ten years is when they'll start reaching the age of having kids i think the oldest gen alpha is 15 so in about five years you have 20 year olds if their fertility rate drops even lower 40 million then the next
generation so you're going to have gen x next and their fertility rate is dropping so gen alpha will be 40 million then gen beta is going to be 25 million and what comes after after Beta, Delta Charlie?
Charlie.
Well, but I don't know if they're going by the phonetic alphabet.
allen west
It'll be Delta.
tim pool
Would it be?
Yeah, okay.
allen west
Yeah.
tim pool
Then generation Delta is going to be what, ten million?
And then we're going to be living in small villages and every major city will have collapsed.
Not even kidding.
elad eliahu
Yeah, it's this phenomenon we're really seeing across the first world and pretty much everywhere but Nigeria and India, I believe are struggling with this issue and how it plays out is going to be fascinating because in fifty years, most of the planet will be Nigerians and Indians.
I believe there's one other African country that does have that population curve like that.
So unless there is some resurgence of seemingly religious.
people, I don't really know where this is heading because I think it's the Amish right now that are particularly one of the only groups that are really increasing in population.
It's religious people who have more children.
phil labonte
Have to outlaw birth control.
tim pool
It's Gamma, then Delta.
allen west
Gamma, okay.
tim pool
Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon, Zeta, Aeta, Theta, Iota, Kappa, Lambda, Omega.
phil labonte
Outlaw birth control, outlaw abortion.
elad eliahu
And I will, the Democrats' solution to this is immigration, by the way.
And the Republicans, it seems, are struggling to get an answer to how to deal with this problem.
tim pool
But what if we banned labuboos just because I hate them?.
elad eliahu
Or I mean, you could say the right answer is banning abortion and access to abortion to try to produce more babies.
phil labonte
I just said.
unidentified
Or forced birth.
allen west
No, now you get into it.
tim pool
Yeah, like Handmaid's Tale.
allen west
Yeah.
You know what I was just going to say.
tim pool
You know what's funny about Handmaid's Tale?
Is it Handmaid's Tale?
phil labonte
Handmaids.
tim pool
Handmaids.
allen west
Yeah, I think it's Handmaids.
tim pool
You know what's really funny is like the premise of that story is that civilization has completely collapsed and humans are about to go extinct and the women are angry that they have to have kids.
It's like, well, you can go extinct, I guess.
Like what would you expect any species to do?
facing extinction will be like, we have no choice.
We have to have kids.
And they're like, no, you can't make me.
And it's like, then we all die.
phil labonte
What?
elad eliahu
I do think that women do invest more into having children than men do.
Obviously, they make a lot more sacrifices.
And on a societal level, I think we need to put women on a pedestal and kind of praise them for the sacrifices they make for.
phil labonte
Would you make the argument that we don't currently put women on a pedestal?
elad eliahu
I think we've been pushing the idea of equality way too much.
And we're truly not equal between the genders.
So as long as we continue to push equality, then no, we're really not How old are you?
I'm thirty one.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
I was wondering if you're Gen Z or Millennial.
So be careful.
elad eliahu
No, I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a I'm a somewhere in between.
tim pool
You're a millennial.
phil labonte
You're a millennial.
tim pool
Yeah, you're a millennial.
elad eliahu
I feel washed up.
I feel really young millennial.
phil labonte
Very young millennial.
elad eliahu
I feel like old.
I feel very old, yeah.
allen west
But what the heck did that say about me?
elad eliahu
You look like you're in better shape than I am though.
So I'll give that.
At least you got that.
phil labonte
It's true.
It's true.
elad eliahu
You got that going.
phil labonte
So I think that if you're saying the government should have policies that incentivize children and incentivize men and women staying together and incentivize families.
Families, I think that I'm with you because I've said that a bunch of times in the show.
We shouldn't have policies that favor LGBTQ families or alternative families or whatever.
You know, we shouldn't be centering the margins.
We should be focusing on normal families.
allen west
Traditional nuclear families.
phil labonte
Traditional nuclear families, men and women and children.
And there should be significant benefits that the government provides.
allen west
Child tax credits.
elad eliahu
I don't think there should be a government-oriented program.
I think it needs to be a cultural thing.
I think if you're trying to have government to increase birth rates, then you're getting them in.
allen west
But the government came in and lended jaws and destroyed the black family.
And I mean, that cannot be debated.
When you're saying that the government is going to give checks to women for having children out of wedlock, now you see all the problems you have within the inner city communities.
Look, I was born in 1961.
In that time, the black family was somewhere, traditional nuclear black family was somewhere between 75 to 77 percent.
Today, that's 24 percent.
And so you already have had government programs that have done everything to undermine the traditional nuclear family and look at the adverse, just degenerate effects that it has had in so many ways.
So I mean, I just think that we should definitely not have a government that seeks to undermine the family.
But we should definitely say that we want everybody knows that a kid that has that mother and father, that stable home, has a better chance of success in our country.
That's what we should be focused on.
phil labonte
Since 1973, the year the Roe v.
Wade decision was made, there have been 63.6 million abortions.
That is the government incentivizing abortion.
allen west
25 million in the black community.
elad eliahu
It's allowing people access to abortion., I don't think is incentivizing abortion.
phil labonte
The government pays for it.
elad eliahu
I don't think the government is paying for money?
allen west
I've heard the $35 million a year were going to Planned Parenthood.
Donald Trump has tried to take that away.
And guess what?
Planned Parenthood and lawyers, leftist lawyers, are suing.
tim pool
And they got an injunction.
allen west
They got an injunction.
phil labonte
I mean, listen, policies that exist are the government incentivizing.
When the government decriminalizes marijuana, should that happen, that incentivizes people to start marijuana businesses.
It starts, because people want to start businesses.
tim pool
That's incentivizingtives is when they tax certain things to try and dissuade people from doing it.
So I don't think that's a government incentive.
allen west
But then they subsidize other things and then you get more of that.
phil labonte
Yeah.
elad eliahu
I don't think this is a government issue.
It's a government issue.
I don't think it's a government issue.
If you think the government could geo engineer us increasing our birth rates, it's not going to work out.
China's been struggling with it.
I don't think so.
I think it needs to be a cultural issue.
Well, they're not doing it.
They're not every government are correct.
But every government is successful in their efforts to How so?
tim pool
They're based on.
Drama TV programs like soap operas that women were heavily influenced by and they made the characters have babies and women all of a sudden wanted to have babies.
It's kind of like how people were saying if Taylor Swift decides to have a kid, tons of young women are all going to start having kids.
elad eliahu
I didn't know it was so simple.
We just need to make telenovelas of women getting pregnant all the time.
And that's Taylor Swift needs to get Elod, Elod, Elod, Elod, Elod.
tim pool
They're buying laboo boos and fighting for cups because people told them to on TikTok.
Okay, so if Taylor Swift comes out and says you all should have babies, they'll do that too.
elad eliahu
I think that's oversimplistic and not.
tim pool
No one said it's absolute.
allen west
The trend is what I will tell you.
is that if you look at the trend of culture, the trend of culture was once upon a time you saw mommies and daddies raising kids.
I mean, even the show Good Times, you remember the show Good Times?
You guys show him Good Times.
I mean, they were in a government housing, but you still had a mother and father.
You remember, you know, Dynamite?
You remember the movie?
tim pool
In Florida.
allen west
Yeah, but but but that's what you had.
The Cosby Show, let's not talk about Cosby later on, but The Cosby Show.
unidentified
Yo.
allen west
The Cosby Show, yes, he couldn't swim.
But The Cosby Show showed a successful, you know, family or you look at the Fresh Prince of Bel Air.
I mean, this kid gets taken out of a bad situation, bad neighborhood, and he comes to a successful black family, his uncle, and he's thriving.
And now what do you see on TV?
I mean, I get sick of it.
All the shows on HBO, they're they're all gangbanging.
tim pool
Sorry, did you see the episode of Fresh Prince when Will is talking about how his father abandoned him?
allen west
Yeah, I remember.
tim pool
Uncle Phil.
allen west
Yeah.
tim pool
And he's and he's all pissed off and he's like acting out and then Phil gives him a knuckle and he's like, Why don't my dad want me, man?
But Uncle Phil was there for him.
That show was awesome.
allen west
It was awesome.
tim pool
Not to mention Carlton's dance.
phil labonte
But I mean legendary.
allen west
But those are the type of things where culture was promoting a certain aspect of our society.
Then all of a sudden, Hollywood and everybody else, the ideology shifted and you look at the shows.
I mean, look, I loved Married with Children.
I loved Al, but Al Bundy was a knucklehead.
Yeah.
Okay, I don't remember.
Yeah, I don't remember growing up seeing shows where the men were knuckleheads.
tim pool
I don't like Married with Children because he hated his wife.
He didn't really hate his wife, but the premise of the premise of the show, I understand there was an underlying, he did love his wife and his family.
family and there was like a theme where every episode is complaining about oh my wife, oh my kids but then anyone who wronged him he'd punch him and he'd be like, don't talk because he loved his family but you ever see the Jeffersons?
phil labonte
No, not no sorry, culturally illiterate uncultured uncultured man no Jeffersons no fresh prince I've seen it's it's his age I'm fifty one I have all these things I know exactly what you're talking about.
tim pool
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Okay, Change Wilder says Paxton is working to get O'Rourke arrested for breaking his restraining order.
Beto continued to raise funds for the dems who fled the state.
Think Old Robert would look good in an orange jumpsuit.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Agreed.
allen west
Six months.
tim pool
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Can I follow up with you on something else, mister West?
You're a Texas guy right now, right?
allen west
I live in Texas, been there since 2014.
elad eliahu
Do you have an opinion on the Paxton Cornyn race?
Are you leading one way or another in their project?
allen west
I think it's going to be a very interesting race.
The grassroots are not favorable to John Cornyn, but yet Ken Paxton has had some personal issues that, you know, chap people in the wrong way.
It's very funny in that congressman Wesley Hunt, who is down out of Houston, I'm seeing him run ads up in the Dallas area.
So I'm wondering if he's thinking about he can, you know, find a way to come in and be a spoiler.
The grassroots definitely leans more so to Ken Paxton.
If they can do the right thing with this prosecution of these Democrats, I mean, that would be a big feather in his hat.
He just has to overcome some personal issues.
elad eliahu
Do you think one or the other would be better for Texas?
tim pool
We have to read Super Chats.
So we got Mason.
He says, You were wrong to him.
The right found out we were fine.
We were fighting a culture war with Gamergate when Zoe Quinn cheated on her boyfriend with five game journalists for good reviews on a ishy game.
Is that what it was?
Freedom Sheree says a man with a gun is a citizen, a man without a gun is a subject.
I'm a huge fan of Colonel Allen West.
Thank you, sir.
allen west
My pleasure.
tim pool
Right on.
All right, Pinochet says, When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principle.
When I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principle.
unidentified
Dune.
tim pool
Is that from the movie Dune?
allen west
I love Dune.
unidentified
I didn't like the old one.
tim pool
I saw the new one when it came out and it was just miserably bad.
It was like watching paint dry or grass grow.
unidentified
Yeah.
allen west
You gotta go back and look at the old one.
tim pool
Maybe the old one was good.
allen west
The old one was good.
tim pool
And here's another thing too, younger people need to realize is that with Star Wars, the first one, watching a movie like that was unprecedented, like this was a new kind of thing.
And also it took years to get a sequel.
And here's another thing, it didn't come out in VHS, I think, for like four or five years.
allen west
Long time.
tim pool
So it was in the theaters nonstop.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You'd go and watch it and be like, man, that was awesome.
And if you wanted to watch it again, had to go to the theater.
That's crazy.
Now it's like, I pick up my phone, I can watch literally every movie ever made.
It's cooking our brains, to be honest, it is cooking our brains.
All right, what have we got here?
Let's see.
Carolyn Clark says, I want to ask Colonel West's opinion on Sheldon Daniels.
Does he think Sheldon can beat Crockett and hopefully get her to fade into her political oblivion forever?
allen west
Yeah, the new redistrict maps will be very troubling for Jasmine Crockett.
As a matter of fact, she no longer is in that district anymore, and I think Sheldon Daniels has a great opportunity.
She's embarrassing herself.
She's embarrassing Texas.
tim pool
Yes, she is.
All right, let's see.
Drunken Gringo says Tim, buy independent, save them.
They only make five million dollars per year revenue.
What?
Revenue?
That's really bad.
And they abandoned their brand, so they're worth nothing.
If you look behind me at that symbol right there, where it says uncancellable, this is the logo for a company called Independent, one of the most iconic skateboard companies in the world for some seventy or so years, until a few years ago when they got called racist, because that was their logo.
So what did they do?
They removed it from every product and their website and apologized for being racist.
So I said that logo now belongs to me and Booney's headquarters and the Tim Cass skateboard company.
And I began selling boards with that logo.
We've been doing it for years.
That logo is mine.
I own it and I dare anyone to try and take it from me.
I will not let iconic skateboard culture be destroyed by woke psychopaths.
Now, is that true they only make five million of revenue per year?
Yikes.
We probably could buy them.
Jeez.
But it depends on what their profit margin is.
I bet it's super slim.
That's crazy if they're making that little.
This is an Olympic sport, right?
Things are going to get crazy in three years because the Olympics are coming to LA and skateboarding is going to be a huge part of it and there's going to be billions of dollars pumped into this sport.
I was talking to Jason Ellis, we had on the show recently, and he's going to be skating with the Boonies crew, getting a pro model, and he's going to ride for the team.
We're really excited.
He's awesome.
I told him, bro, if we don't get a handle on this, skateboarding is going to be a bunch of 15 year old Asian kids in unitards with the shoes sewn into the unitard.
And I'm not joking.
And he laughed.
He's like, no way, man.
That can't happen.
And I'm like, bro, the industry is dead.
There's no young people in the United States.
In Japan and China, it's taking off like crazy.
And the Chinese government doesn't care what you think looks cool.
They want to win gold medals at the Olympics.
They will make these kids wear unitards that say China on it and the shoes will be sewn into little booties and you're going to be like, Ha, they look dumb and they're going to say, We don't care.
We win gold every time and America will get washed out.
That's where we're going.
All right, insert clever name here says former cop of ten plus years or says ten plus.
I'm assuming you mean years.
Female cops have a place.
They excel in child crimes, domestic violence crimes and sex crimes.
They talk their way out of fights more often.
Interesting.
elad eliahu
If you insist.
tim pool
Eric Shaver says, Of course you're mixed race, Tim.
How do you think you got your job?
However, if you ever go to prison, they're going to teach you something about yourself.
Well, I, you know, I don't know what that means, but it is true that when Mossad and APAC were trying to hire me or were trying to hire someone to run this show, they were like, he's mixed race, he fits the DI quota, and then they hired me.
And, you know, now I have to confer with Alad whenever we do a show, if we're allowed to talk about certain subjects.
elad eliahu
We didn't touch Israel one time this episode.
allen west
No, we did.
elad eliahu
You mentioned them, I did.
allen west
I talked about Hamas and Israel.
tim pool
That's right.
And Alad, for some reason, didn't take the bait.
elad eliahu
I've been trying to avoid the topic.
phil labonte
I'm still protesting about the videos that we made after and the after show yesterday.
tim pool
It's funny because right now there's someone on Twitter watching it and they're watching this show and they're like, Tim Poole just admitted it.
phil labonte
Yeah.
We got him.
tim pool
Yeah.
Okay.
It's really funny how the left, these leftists are like, how does Tim Poole make?
When I was flying around the country covering protests, there were conspiracy theories that I was working for USAID and the CIA because they were like, how does Tim Poole afford to fly across the country?
And I was like, that plane ticket was 83 dollars.
Like American Eagle regional flights are like 80 dollars.
Yeah, like, what?
phil labonte
How can you afford a plane ticket, Tim?
Good Lord.
tim pool
That's what they were saying.
They didn't believe it.
phil labonte
That's hilarious.
tim pool
Yeah.
All right.
Let's see what we got here.
Coned says Colonel West smackdown to the liberal girl asking him if he identifies as black as a all time favorite.
Unfortunately, a sign of how insane a lot of the left really is.
I remember that.
Yeah.
allen west
2016 Northwestern University.
tim pool
Yeah.
I identify as black.
allen west
Yeah.
tim pool
They're good.
They went nuts.
You ever see the video of the young white college student yelling at a black cop that he's a white supremacist.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because he's supporting the police.
allen west
Yeah.
tim pool
And he's like an older black guy.
And he's like, I lived through civil rights.
phil labonte
What are you talking about?
tim pool
Like, but these, these brainwashed Marxist man, they don't know what they're talking about.
Let's see what we got here.
Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says, dude, I've been super chatting since 2022 that we should give zero Fs the dems and left to say we need to forge ahead on our own narrative, not let them.
phil labonte
Indeed.
tim pool
All right, what have we here?
Ethan Stolp says, it's so bad EBT is now accepted at McDonald's.
What?
That's not possible.
Is that true?
unidentified
Because it could be somewhere.
tim pool
Hot food's not allowed.
Yeah, somewhere maybe, but I'm pretty sure in most states, at least as far as I know, hot food isn't allowed to be purchased with EBT.
allen west
Of course it is.
You go to a lot of these convenience stores.
You can go in and get, it says EBT accepted here.
tim pool
Yeah, but that's that's cold product.
allen west
So like, no, no, no, I mean, if they got like the little taco stands or or I'm pretty sure you can.
tim pool
I've gotten EBT before in Illinois and in Washington and it was not allowed to be.
unidentified
No, I'm telling you if you go into some of these places I bet you can go and get whatever you want those convenience stores get you a dadgum corn dog whatever chat GPT ain't going to answer because they don't know about Roscoe's corner store so it's called the restaurant meals program for elderly disabled and homeless snap recipients you are allowed to get hot food purchases interesting That's crazy.
tim pool
McDonald's.
unidentified
How about this?
tim pool
I got an idea.
No more food stamps.
phil labonte
I mean, I love the idea, but.
tim pool
It's government subsidy of bad food.
allen west
But if you could go back to the original intent, yes.
But the original intent, we've gotten so far away from it.
It was supposed to be about good, healthy, nutritious food, American grown food.
So you were helping our farmers and you were helping people to stay healthy.
And now I don't think we can get back to what the original intent was.
tim pool
I think we should go beyond the no sugar-rich drinks thing.
And I think that if you're receiving food benefits, we would save a lot of money and improve the system if instead of giving someone a card they could go and buy their food with, it was actually the post office.
would include a food package delivery of goods to the recipients themselves.
And so the truck would pull up and you'd get a bag for the week and it would be whole grain oats, a bag of rice and maybe some powdered milk.
And they'd be like, this is better for you than anything you'd buy, saves everybody money, this is what you get.
allen west
I have no problems with it.
tim pool
That's what I say.
And then the liberals were like, shouldn't poor people get to eat what other people get to eat?
No.
No, because I work and I get luxuries from working.
Poor people don't deserve luxuries by virtue of being a human.
phil labonte
Yeah, like should poor people get caviar because there are people that get caviar?
There's no reason for poor people to be blind by it.
allen west
There are people that are using those EBT cards to buy lobster.
tim pool
Caviar is overrated anyway.
I'm just thinking of something expensive that's like you go to rest, I've been to a couple of restaurants that had caviar and it's good but it's not worth the money.
I could just give me a steak.
phil labonte
Like poor people shouldn't be eating ribeyes.
How about that?
Or filet?
tim pool
I disagree.
You can get a filet for a cheap for cheap.
It's not that bad.
They got tenderloin at the little farmer markets out here and they're not expensive.
For like twenty bucks you can get a little thing of tenderloin.
phil labonte
Can you get it?
Can you get or do they take EBT?
tim pool
No, the farms don't take EBT.
phil labonte
I kind of figured they don't, you know?
allen west
I think Aldi's does.
phil labonte
Aldi's does, yeah.
You get a big old rack of ribs.
You get a big old rack of ribs at Aldi's.
unidentified
Mm.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Aldi's really improve the quality of their food too.
allen west
Totally.
tim pool
Yeah.
Because that's the only place I used to go to when I was a kid because they peanut butter is peanut butter.
I don't need a name brand.
You don't want to waste time on that stuff.
But their cheese was miserably bad.
It was disgusting.
It was not cheese.
Now it's really good.
Now I'm surprised how good it is.
Like, actually, it's like good deli cheese and meat.
Yeah.
And it's cheap.
It's real cheap.
I don't get it.
Why don't people go anywhere else?
elad eliahu
Oh, Wegman's is the top tier supermarket.
I'm on all these.
Whenever I can, I'm going, I do out of my way to go to Wegman's.
tim pool
But Wegman's is like a country.
It's like not a grocery store.
It's like you're going into a country.
phil labonte
And there's not No, I like it.
There's not any that are close by either.
elad eliahu
There's one like thirty minutes away, I guess from If you go to like there's one in Frederick.
phil labonte
I believe there's a Publix that's going to be opened in Winchester and my girlfriend is super excited about that because she's like But they're just regular grocery stores.
Publix stores.
She says they're good.
She likes them.
She's like, that's the thing I miss the most about Florida is I'm trying to go to a Publix.
allen west
Publix's all in Florida.
tim pool
But Wegman's is where it's massive.
And you go in there and it's just like you get lost and you're like, This is crazy.
The store is too big.
They have all the.
allen west
How about Whole Foods?
Y'all got a Whole Foods up there close by?
phil labonte
No, not close.
tim pool
No, they're all right though.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah.
Amazons.
Oh, that's right.
It's Amazon now.
I was once at a Whole Foods and Jason Schwartzman was there and he had a gaggle of people just following him around the Whole Foods and it was the creepyest thing I've ever seen.
It was in New York.
I was like, dude, it's just, that's crazy.
But celebrity and there were like just like fat people just taking pictures of him and like, dude, who's buying groceries, man?
It's so weird.
People are creepy.
All right.
Raymond G. Sanders says, I love that cop video.
They're the real ones.
unidentified
Yup.
tim pool
I love what those cops are doing in DC.
unidentified
That was great.
tim pool
They're like, hey, just want to let you know, like, you know, don't do this.
You're not allowed to do it.
We're not going to ruin anyone's life over this stuff.
It's like, that's cool.
That's the way you do it.
elad eliahu
Hey, just so you guys know, you can only have two ounces.
Don't go over two ounces.
Three ounces, we might have to arrest you guys.
Two ounces, you guys are in good.
tim pool
If you're holding two and you're holding two, you're fine.
But if you hold both bags at the same time, we're going to ask you to hand the other bag to that guy.
elad eliahu
Yeah, and you can only give your buddy up to one ounce, you know, Lottie Dop.
If you give him more than one ounce, you know, we might decide to arrest you guys.
phil labonte
So much, man.
elad eliahu
So much.
tim pool
Eddie Gonzalez is a longtime viewer, first time super chatter, keeping with the tradition.
I'm watching from the hospital alongside my wife and our third child.
Please welcome Elijah James Gonzalez to the world, guys.
phil labonte
Awesome, correct.
allen west
Congratulations.
phil labonte
Good for you.
tim pool
Babies, have them.
More babies.
All right.
Let's grab.
We'll grab one more before we jump to the members only portion.
Revive Cold Brew says, why is this hard?
Women are social creatures.
Society said don't have kids.
They didn't have kids.
If society promotes it and says it's the best thing ever, women will move that way.
unidentified
Fact.
tim pool
This is what happened in Brazil.
The telenovela, whatever you call them soap operas, they started having the women have kids and all of a sudden young women were like, oh, I want to have a kid.
I want to have a kid.
What you tell women to be girl bosses and they say, I have to be a girl boss because they want to fit in socially.
All right, everybody, we're going to go to that members only portion of the show the show at rumble dot com slash Timcast IRL.
So don't miss it.
Register, join the discord server at timcast dot com if you want to call in and talk to us and our guest, and I know you do.
So timcast dot com, click join us.
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Colonel West, you want to shout anything out?
allen west
Hey, follow us at the American Constitutional Rights Union, theacru dot org, and also follow my writings on Substack.
tim pool
Right on.
elad eliahu
Hey, everyone, I'm Elod Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast.
You can follow me on all social media at Elod Eliyahu.
mister West, this was a great episode.
allen west
Oh, it's my pleasure to be here.
elad eliahu
Wonderful to have the opportunity to have a conversation with you.
unidentified
Thank you.
phil labonte
Appreciate it.
I am Phil that remains on Twix.
The band is all that remains.
You can follow us on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Spotify, Pandora, and Deezer.
Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool
We're all going to head over to rumble.com slash TimcastIRL for that uncensored portion of the show.
Thanks for hanging out.
We'll see you out there in about 30 seconds.
unidentified
Thank you.
allen west
How long is this?
I can make it.
tim pool
Oh, you're good.
We're alive now.
unidentified
Well, then I'll just Here we go.
tim pool
So it looks like Caller Daddy's Alex Cooper was a hooker.
Is that the rumor?
What's going on?
She was a hooker.
She says sugar baby, but I don't know the difference.
What's the difference between a sugar baby and a hooker?
It's the same thing, isn't it?
elad eliahu
It's not explicit that you're doing it for money, I believe.
tim pool
Well, sugar babies, it's what, what do you mean?
Like, sugar baby.
Doesn't sugar baby just mean you're like a high-end hooker?
elad eliahu
I think it's like you're supposed to be dating them with a wink and a nod.
They give you gifts and money.
It's not explicit that you have to put out as much as I understand.
unidentified
You don't necessarily have to have sex with them.
elad eliahu
But it's it's totally implied.
unidentified
It's underpin, yeah.
elad eliahu
Yeah.
tim pool
So like there are guys out there that just give women money for no other, for no reason.
elad eliahu
Stamps, man.
Companionship, man.
Men get lonely.
tim pool
That's true.
That's true.
No, that's true.
There's a lot of hookers, like actual ones like ladies of the night who pick up guys.
They'll tell stories that a good portion of the guys will just talk to them in the room.
No joke.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They'll go to a hotel room and they'll just sit with them and talk.
And they're like, okay.
elad eliahu
I hear they're hired to be like brought around to parties and to dinners or what have you.
That's cool.
Okay.
tim pool
Isn't that what Myron Gaines was saying he does?
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
He just hires women to be companions, to be cool.
That sucks.
elad eliahu
Is that true?
Is that what he said?
I feel like that's an embarrassing thing to admit.
tim pool
I don't think so when the whole point of his thing is that he's rich and he can pay any woman he wants for them.
Yeah.
elad eliahu
Yeah, but you don't want to be with a woman who you're paying to be with you, right?
Isn't that a missing element?
tim pool
No woman A lot of bums are getting laid.
elad eliahu
I know a lot of bums making very few shekels, not very accomplished.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
elad eliahu
Who are womanizers.
I don't know what's going on.
tim pool
Women like bad boys.
elad eliahu
Maybe that's what I got.
tim pool
Yeah.
They want to fix the guy.
They want to work on him.
They want to change him.
elad eliahu
You know, I was dating a girl when I was in college who told me many of her friends actually used what was the name of that website?
There was one website that was very prominent.
tim pool
Seeking arrangements.
elad eliahu
Seeking arrangements.
And she told me that it wasn't uncommon for college aged women to seek arrangements on Seeking arrangements.
And I think this is really significant where the most lucrative thing that a young woman could do is prostitution in one form or another.
tim pool
Come on, let's be real.
90% I'm going to be generous.
90% of the women who were going on to get an arrangement knew that they were going to be putting out in exchange for money.
elad eliahu
Yeah.
tim pool
Come on.
elad eliahu
And it's the most lucrative thing that a girl could do at that age, which is certainly unfortunate.
tim pool
Many women could do for the rest of their lives.
elad eliahu
Yeah, which is tragic, which, you know, there's an economic incentive for them to be doing this.
Like, it's unfortunate that there's not another thing they could do where they would make a comparable amount of money.
tim pool
Because I think women fall into that because if you needed to hire someone to, like, chop wood, who is going to be better than better, the average man or the average woman?
elad eliahu
Do I get a watch?
I mean, I guess the average man would be.
tim pool
Of course, there's no question.
So why the fuck would you.
So that means you're going to find disproportionately it's always men getting hired for these jobs.
So what do women do in society if men are going to do the labor and the developmental and infrastructure jobs?
Women are the creators of family.
And the problem is our society has told women they need money.
Whereas before the family needed money and the man was the hunter who'd get it and the woman was the the homemaker who created a family.
Then they said, no, no, women, money is what you want.
So the women started competing with men men and they can't.
Women can't compete with men.
Like, listen, if you took your average man and your average woman and put them on a 100 meter dash, who's going to win?
elad eliahu
Man.
tim pool
No question.
Sometimes some women might win.
And that's basically what we're seeing with the economy.
Women were told go compete with men.
It's like, okay, well guys will sleep upside down in the mud for five bucks.
Are you going to want to do that?
Nah, these women are like, I'm pulling this story up.
unidentified
I'm pulling this up.
allen west
It's Murphy Brown.
Did you, the worst.
That's when it happened.
phil labonte
But I do think that like.
But like, I do think that there's nothing wrong with having policies that cater to families.
And I, I like, maybe it's not, you know, the, the, the, the silver bullet to fix the problem, but it's not going to hurt.
You know, it's not, if you, if you incentivize families to stay together and incentivize, you know, men and women to stay together married and incentivize them to have kids and, and remember when no fault divorce came up?
It's, it was a terrible idea.
allen west
Yeah.
phil labonte
There should be a justification.
There has to be a reason, not just I don't, you know, I'm unhappy.
I don't feel like it.
That's, if that's the case case, then there's no value in marriage.
And you're just, you're just, it's dating.
allen west
Cohabiting.
Cohabiting.
phil labonte
Yeah, you know.
And you shouldn't get anything like, you shouldn't get tax breaks for cohabiting.
You shouldn't get any of that kind of stuff.
There should be no benefit to dating and living in the same place from the government.
There should be no benefit at all.
There should be all the benefit the government should do tax breaks or other kinds of incentives for married couples that have kids.
Because that's what produces more of the society.
elad eliahu
This is where my libertarian instincts kind of kick in.
Like, uh, bro.
phil labonte
Bro, you talking about libertarian institutions.
elad eliahu
I don't think the government should be involved in marriages at all.
I believe marriage is a religious institution and that the different religious institutions should be controlling marriage surrounding their religion.
If you guys want to put, you know, if you're whatever and want to put rings on your finger and call it whatever, the government shouldn't recognize you or care much about it.
I think this needs to go back to the churches, the temples, the mosques.
Those are the people who should be in charge of being married because whether or not the government calls it no fault divorce or whatever the reasoning that you need to give to the government is one thing.
But what makes marriage important to me is the is the religious aspects of it.
In Jewish religion, we need to sign a Jewish contract.
It's called the Katubah.
So I think, again, doubling down on the religiosity of it is what keeps marriages together and where marriages should be.
allen west
So if I came and said, My religion says I can have seven wives, is that okay?
elad eliahu
We don't recognize that.
allen west
No, no, no, no.
phil labonte
You're talking about the religiosity of it.
allen west
Yeah, you just can't have it both ways.
elad eliahu
And what religion is that?
Is it Islam where they allow you to have?
There's there are multiple different religions that allow you to do that.
phil labonte
Mountain Jews.
elad eliahu
If that's what your religion calls for, I've never heard that script.
If that's what your religion calls for, frankly, then go for it because you're going to find your way to have a workaround in our government, even if we didn't allow it.
So if you were only allowed to have one wife, then you'd have three girls call them three extra girlfriends instead of wives down the line, but I think we need to make it a religious institution.
phil labonte
I don't think so.
I disagree.
I disagree with making it a religious institution because then it will it will it won't incentivize enough people.
And also then it becomes you start selecting which religions the government prefers, which it doesn't prefer.
There's all kinds of problems with that.
In my opinion, it should just be get married, stay together, get benefits from the government for it.
It doesn't matter that there's a religious aspect.
I think that, and I'm not trying to discount the religion, that I'm not trying to say that the religious aspect is in value is not valuable or that that that that that people shouldn't get married in a religious ceremony and that that you should take God out of marriage.
But when it comes to the government, the government shouldn't be saying this religious, this religion is valid.
This religion is not valid.
It should just be, you're married.
according to the state, you get these benefits from the state, that's it.
It doesn't, it should, because it separates, it reinforces the separation of church and state if you don't make the religious aspect the defining factor as to whether or not it's a legitimate marriage or not.
tim pool
We should go to colors.
phil labonte
Sure.
tim pool
We'll start with Flayer the Hatebound.
You're on the show.
unidentified
Hello.
Hello.
phil labonte
How are you?
elad eliahu
Hey.
unidentified
What's up?
What up?
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