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Trump DOJ Begins MASS ARRESTS, Hundreds CHARGED For Defrauding US GOV In Scheme | Timcast IRL
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tim pool
And it has begun.
You see, many people have been asking, where are the arrests at?
People were defrauding the government.
We got this Doge stuff in there.
Elon Musk is tearing through this, being like, look at all the money that's being stolen.
What are these payments even?
Well, they've announced now the DOJ has indicted and arrested hundreds of individuals for this crazy healthcare scheme, of which many were defrauding Medicare and Medicaid, buying luxury vehicles and living lavish lifestyles.
So hopefully this is just the beginning.
But my friends, we were struggling to figure out what the lead of the day was, despite the fact that they started off actually rather slow.
We've got the big beautiful bill.
They're stripping out the good stuff and putting and leaving in bad stuff or giving us half measures.
Then you've got this story about mass arrests over fraud.
Someone, they're stealing billions from the government.
And get this.
The Trump administration has issued a directive to start targeting individuals who can be denaturalized.
That is, for crimes they committed, actually have their citizenship revoked.
Holy crap.
And that's actually not all the news we have.
We've got a bunch more.
That Brian, what's his name, Kohlberger?
Pleaded guilty.
He said he killed the people.
Then you've got these firefighters that got ambushed.
Then you got the story about PA Democrats that were arrested and charged and convicted for an election scheme.
I thought it was going to be a slow news day.
shane cashman
Antiphys using sound weapons in Portland.
tim pool
Next thing you can tell me, aliens are here.
shane cashman
They're falling from the sky.
unidentified
All right.
All right.
tim pool
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shane cashman
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What's up?
I am the host of Inverted World Live.
Last week, we had a lot of things falling out of the sky, spheres and meteors.
This week, we're going to get into the gunman in Idaho.
We're going to get into a new blood type that's been found in Guadalupe.
Yeah, French scientists have been working on this blood type.
They don't know.
phil labonte
But I heard about that, actually.
shane cashman
They don't know where this antibody's from.
So they've classified it as exactly what we're going to say tonight.
And we got some UFOs in L.A. Hey, Phil.
phil labonte
How you doing?
So this past weekend, Shane hooked me up with some information about clouds that hopefully I can get him to talk about on the after show.
I am Phil Labonte.
I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All the Irmans.
I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary, so let's get into it.
tim pool
He's also being driven insane by Shane, but that's another story.
phil labonte
There's nothing more wonderful than hanging out with Shane King.
shane cashman
I'm the sonic weapon outside your window.
tim pool
All right, let's go.
Here's a story from Reuters.
U.S. says it halts healthcare fraud schemes worth nearly $15 billion.
And I feel like they buried the lead.
The lead story is they filed criminal charges against 324 defendants and the seizure of more than 245 million in cash, luxury cars, and other assets.
The actual loss to the U.S. government totaled about $2.9 billion.
So when we had all this Doge stuff going through and everyone's saying, when are you going to start arresting these people who are ripping off the taxpayer?
Well, there you go.
This is massive.
They say today, quote, today marks a decisive moment in our fight to protect American taxpayers from fraudsters and to defend the integrity of America's healthcare system.
Matthew, how do you pronounce that, Galioti?
Galioti.
phil labonte
Galioti, that's what I would say.
tim pool
The head of the Justice Department's criminal division told reporters during a press conference.
Those charges include 93 doctors and other medical professionals accused of submitting false claims to government health care programs like Medicare and Medicaid.
This is absolutely nice.
I think we actually have a video here.
It's 52 seconds long.
Let's make sure we get the volume up.
Here we go.
matthew gagliotti
Good morning, everyone.
My name is Matthew Gagliotti, and I'm the head of the Justice Department's criminal division.
Thank you all for joining us today as we announce the largest coordinated health care fraud takedown in the history of the Department of Justice.
Today marks a decisive moment in our fight to protect American taxpayers from fraudsters and to defend the integrity of America's healthcare system.
We are announcing today charges against 324 defendants for their alleged participation in healthcare fraud schemes involving approximately $14.6 billion in false claims submitted to Medicare, Medicaid, and other healthcare programs.
phil labonte
Holy crap.
tim pool
I'm excited.
This feels good, huh?
shane cashman
It's Obamacare.
tim pool
Yeah.
shane cashman
That's Obamacare for you.
phil labonte
That's Obamacare.
tim pool
He just comes out and he's like, actually, literates the whole health of Obama infrastructure.
14, 15, you know.
shane cashman
It's got to go.
phil labonte
I do like the fact that, well, not like the fact, but I'm hoping that this will actually lead to people that are extremely critical of the government and that are impatient.
They're saying, oh, these things aren't happening fast enough.
Hopefully this will be another indication that there are, you know, there are investigations going on.
There are moves being made.
And whereas, yes, I would love it if, you know, they could have just got into office and snapped their fingers and all the bad people just automatically.
Because I'm looking around the table.
All the bad people just automatically just were in cuffs and locked up.
It would have been wonderful.
But I do actually, and I know people are going to be like, oh, you're so naive.
But I do actually think that there are at least a few people that are actually in the government looking to fix significant problems.
Not saying they're going to fix them all.
I'm not saying it's perfect.
I'm not saying this is exactly how everything's, you know, everything's going to be rosy and stuff.
But I do think that you're going to see more and more of this throughout the summer.
I mean, that's what Dan Bongino and Cash Patel said.
shane cashman
I was looking up who some of these people were, and there's a story out of Baton Rouge, some women just totally defrauding elderly and disabled to get cars.
I mean, it's just sick stuff.
phil labonte
And that's part of the problem with a government, with the budget that we have, the size of the government, the idea that there isn't massive fraud and abuse.
Never mind waste.
Of course, there's going to be waste.
It's not your money that's automatically going to happen.
They're just like, oh, whatever.
It's another $500, another $1,000, whatever.
There's going to be people that are not going to be looking to spend the money in the most frugal manner possible.
But the real problem with a massive government is the abuse and the fraud.
The people that are going to try to use government money to put an addition on their house or if they can figure it out.
Use government money to buy themselves cars.
Use government programs to put their kids through school when they don't deserve it or whatever.
Those kind of things are going to happen and it's going to be more common because of the size and scope of government.
shane cashman
Is this a path to arresting Fauci if we undo the auto-penn part of it?
phil labonte
This is a total different topic, but Fauci, Rand Paul is actually going to subpoena Fauci.
I saw something on Twix.
I didn't retweet it, so I don't have a post that I can show you or whatever.
I saw it today.
Rand Paul is looking to subpoena Fauci, and hopefully we can actually get something moving on that front as well.
Considering the information, I don't know if we're going to talk about this either, but considering the information about the RFK found all the hidden information that the CDC was hiding, you know, again, that's another thing that'll come out or that's come out that shows that there are people in the government that were elected or that were appointed by Donald Trump, proving that, you know, electing Donald Trump was definitely the better option without question.
unidentified
So for posterity.
tim pool
I want to clarify, we don't exactly, it has been reported hundreds of arrests.
That's why we led with that phrasing specifically.
Reuters doesn't say arrests as charges, but other websites do say arrests.
And I started thinking about some, I wonder if they actually showed up and started cuffing all these people, which I imagine most of them probably did.
There's 13 confirmed people in Indiana that were arrested over this.
12 people, I think, in like Eastern Europe got caught or something.
I don't, you know, and I just want to clarify: it has been reported by many outlets these are mass arrests, but Reuters didn't say that.
So I'm just going to make sure that's clear because we want to be specific.
And if it turns out they're like, oh, we arrested, you know, it says in the Reuters article, they arrested 12.
There's another article saying they arrested 13.
If it turns out that there's dozens of arrests, I'm still happy with it, you know, beginning, but I just want to make sure that's clear.
shane cashman
The article I was referencing about the ladies in Baton Rouge, they were charged with conspiracy after alleging defrauding federal programs, benefiting the elderly and disability.
phil labonte
Hopefully the situation, this is like the DOJ just kind of sticking their toe in saying, let's see how the water is.
And now they can be like, oh, the water's fine.
Let's just jump in there and just arrest everybody.
tim pool
Well, it's also, you know, some people might be saying, who cares about health care, you know, the system, whatever, like get to the corruption in politics and in law and the FBI.
I think most people are not going to be satisfied with this because this is going after the fraud of where people were stealing money.
It's what Doge was looking for, waste, fraud, and abuse.
And people were saying, if there's all this fraud, where are the charges?
Okay, well, they just brought 324 defendants in.
So that's a good start.
But I do know there'll be a lot of people being like, okay, fine, but what about politics?
I say start at the base.
You start pulling Jenga blocks out from the bottom of the pyramid and you weaken the infrastructure.
So I'm not saying that any of these doctors are colluding or conspiring, but starting at the bottom and eroding this base of criminality and fraud in the government.
And then the higher up people that are trying to maintain support that will have no support systems themselves.
shane cashman
I hope so.
josie glabach
This is the GDP of a small country.
I mean, this is a lot of money.
I'm looking at Doge AI, and it says the Transnational Criminal Organization, they're calling this Operation Gold Rush, allegedly led by individuals based in Russia and Eastern Europe, used foreign straw owners to purchase over 30 small U.S. medical supply companies already enrolled with Medicare using stolen identities of more than a million Americans.
The group submitted fake claims for equipment that was neither ordered nor delivered.
The proceeds were laundered through shell companies and cryptocurrency to accounts in Singapore, Pakistan, Israel, and other countries.
shane cashman
Wow.
tim pool
Wow.
And let's see what we got here.
In case those of you may be wondering how much $15 billion is, let's go with, here's some countries.
Moldova, the Congo, Mauritius, is that you pronounce it?
Kyrgyzstan, and Georgia all have GDPs at or around 15 billion.
josie glabach
I wasn't lying.
tim pool
Several small countries.
That's a lot of money.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Kyrgyzstan.
phil labonte
Yeah, that's over by...
That's over by...
Afghanistan, Tajikistan, over that part of the world.
But yeah, I mean, look, the amount of money, it's a big, big dollar amount, but this really should make people think if this much in this one particular scam that they're talking about or what is it?
Healthcare fraud.
So just in healthcare fraud that they found these, can you imagine how much there is throughout the rest of the government?
You know, it's probably on the order.
I mean, it's possible that Musk was right that you could get rid of a trillion dollars worth of waste, fraud, and abuse.
I mean, it seems like a lot, but maybe you could.
I don't know.
josie glabach
I believe it.
shane cashman
These people are living largely.
tim pool
Transnational.
josie glabach
If they could get rid of $2 trillion from Doge, we would have closed the deficit.
But they came.
What'd they end up closing out at?
Like $200 billion?
tim pool
This is why I'm scared to go to Loudoun County restaurants.
Because we used to, I'm kidding, by the way, but the joke is they got some of the best.
Look, if you were trying to find where the capital city of the Hunger Games is, it is Loudoun County, Virginia.
Like McLean, Reston, what else you got?
Alexandria, Chevy State.
Sterling, Chevy Chase, Leesburg.
That's Maryland.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Fair enough.
Fair enough.
tim pool
But that's like second round.
It does count.
Basically, all of the people who are, well, I shouldn't say all, but many of the people who are defrauding the government through these NGO schemes as lawyers and stuff like this are living in these areas.
And so they got some of the best restaurants ever.
I'm going to shout them out.
Barcelona, the toppest restaurant in Reston, is hands-on, like one of the best restaurants I've ever been to.
And they're really good people and they're very nice to me and they're fans.
So I will shout them out.
They are not on the bad side of this.
But jokingly, it's like, I'm going to go there and there's going to be some guy, like a homeless guy, and it's going to be like, I used to make $15 million a year.
And he's going to look at me and be like, it's you.
unidentified
It's your fault.
And I'm going to be like, I would have made $16 this year if it wasn't for you meddling kids.
You helped Trump win and he took everything from us.
tim pool
But that's, you know, the amount of houses.
Apparently people are saying there's going to surge in homes for sale in these areas where all the people defrauding the government are now like, time to leave.
phil labonte
Got to get out.
I mean, you hear a lot of that kind of like rumors or scuttlebutt or whatever.
I would really like to find some kind of solid numbers about if there really is people are actually leaving and stuff.
I hope so.
josie glabach
I'm going to shout out my friend Lauren Rogue Lou18.
She actually, right after Trump was elected, she was sending me a list.
All of a sudden, all of these multi-million dollar homes were going up for sale in Alexandria.
And it's like all of a sudden it was all at once.
tim pool
To be fair, to be fair, some of it's probably legit.
Like if you're working for an NGO and there's an actual contract that you have and it's a real contract and you're like, yeah, Trump's going to cancel that contract.
So we should probably pack a belief.
I'm sure there's a lot of legitimate sales that are happening every time an administration turns over into a new Democrat-Republican.
But I'm pretty sure a lot of people run for the Hills in these areas.
Bethesda, what do you got?
Alexandria, of course.
What else do you have?
Oxen Hill?
shane cashman
I don't know.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
I haven't even heard Oxen Hill.
tim pool
That's where National Harbor is.
phil labonte
Okay, all right, yeah.
tim pool
Let me tell you guys something.
You already know the answer, but where do you think the highest grossing individual casino is in the United States?
phil labonte
It's not Vegas.
Not Vegas.
It's probably in Maryland.
tim pool
It is in Maryland.
It is D.C.'s National Harbor.
So at least that's a couple years ago, they were reporting this.
I think they say outside of Vegas and Atlantic City, the highest-grossing individual casino is D.C.'s National Harbor.
And I got questions about their poker room.
Not that they're doing anything wrong, but I've made this point.
They have a room inside D.C. National Harbor where they play sometimes, so for those that don't know poker, when someone says the numbers like 1, 2, 2, 5, 3, or 5, 10, those define what are called blind bets that you're forced to make.
So if you're sitting down, there's, let's say you're playing with eight players.
It's a max table.
Typically, sometimes they do nine.
There's a button called the dealer button that moves around every time a hand is dealt and ends.
They move the button once over.
The two spaces right in front of it is the small and the big blind.
You are forced to make a $1 bet or a $2 bet.
And then if you want to play the game, you'll get your cards to I'll play.
You put in at least $2 or more, right?
In that room, they play what's called $2,550, meaning you are required at least once per round to bet $75.
And this usually means that if someone's going to raise, they're going to go two and a half to three times.
So the first bet will be $75.
And then you'll end up, so I'll put it this way.
It's a $10,000 minimum buy-in.
It's in a private room you can't see inside of.
Sometimes they play $10,250 a little bit lower, but it's basically the same thing.
Here's my point.
If you're an oil executive and you're trying to send some money to a politician of some sort, maybe not the position director, but maybe a super PAC without having it on the books, you sit down at the table and you look at your cards and there's no cameras and there's walls and no one can see who's in there.
And you go, oh boy, I got a real good hand.
I will bet $50,000.
And then the recipient of said illicit money goes, my hand is much better than yours.
I will go all in for $200,000.
And then the guy who wants to donate goes, rats, you got my bluff.
I fold.
You win my $50,000.
phil labonte
Hey, how easy is that?
tim pool
And then he says, don't forget.
Now, I'm not saying they actually do that.
I'm just saying I would not be surprised if poker tables are the means by which bribery happens in D.C. I wouldn't be surprised at all.
phil labonte
Maybe not to maybe not the actual representatives, but maybe their staff or friends, exactly lawyers, that kind of stuff.
tim pool
Hacks, things like that.
phil labonte
And really, it's a situation of like, how could you possibly prove it?
tim pool
And you can't.
josie glabach
Not everybody can do art like Hunter Biden.
phil labonte
That's right.
Not everybody has that kind of visual talent.
josie glabach
Exactly.
tim pool
All right.
Well, let's jump to this next story because there's so much going on.
We got this from The Guardian.
Trump's Justice Department issues directive to strip naturalized Americans of citizenship for criminal offenses.
phil labonte
Let's go.
tim pool
Oh, my God.
phil labonte
Let's go.
Yo, send them home.
tim pool
It is past.
Trump is cranking up the knob, and we got to 11 a while ago with the Doge and everything.
And now he's just ripping the knob off.
Here's what they say.
phil labonte
Love it.
tim pool
The Trump badmint has codified its efforts to strip some Americans of their U.S. citizenship in a recently published DOJ memo that directs attorneys to prioritize denaturalization for naturalized citizens who commit certain crimes.
The memo published on June 11th calls on attorneys in the department to institute civil proceedings to revoke a person's U.S. citizenship if an individual either illegally procured naturalization or procured naturalization by concealment of a material fact or by willful misrepresentation.
Holy crap.
phil labonte
Beautiful.
It's beautiful.
tim pool
At the center of the move are the estimated 25 million U.S. citizens who immigrated to the country after being born abroad, according to data from 2023.
And it lists 10 different priority categories for denaturalization.
According to the memo, those subjected to civil proceedings are not entitled to an attorney like they are in a criminal case.
And the government has a lighter burden of proof in civil cases than they do in criminal ones.
The memo claims such efforts will focus on those who were involved in the commission of war crimes, extrajudicial killings, or other serious human rights abuses, and naturalized criminals, gang members, or indeed any individuals convicted of crimes who pose an ongoing threat to the U.S. Wow.
josie glabach
So there's two ways to look at this.
One is naturalization is a privilege.
It's not a right.
Yes.
And right now, the statutes for that, the naturalization process is laid out by Congress, Article 1, Section 8, and is residency, good moral character, language proficiency, and passing a civics test, right?
Good moral character.
All right.
So there's an argument that you can revoke citizenship if you violate, if you're not a good moral character.
And if you're breaking the law, then you can't.
But then at the same time, it has to be, since Congress has the power of naturalization, it would have to be written into their, they would have to write a law.
So this is something that Trump can do by executive order.
And then Congress can make a law to support that, to codify his executive order.
tim pool
Dude, I was talking about this morning.
We talked about it last week.
We actually stumbled into it.
The ACLU's lawsuit, the class action on birthright citizenship has created either you ban abortions or birthright citizenship is de facto out.
So basically what happens is, I'll keep it short because I talked about it a lot, but it's massive.
They argued that the class to be protected is future persons.
All persons born on or after, all persons born on or after and future persons.
If future persons are certified as a class, this means that the unborn have legal standing to be represented in a court of law.
And if that's the case, how can you argue you can kill someone before they've had a hearing before a judge?
I mean, in the instance of like the Terry Chavo case going back, saying this person has to be represented, or they say that future persons cannot have legal standing.
And then, of course, abortion is still where it's at.
But that means no one can sue on behalf of the unborn for citizenship.
And so then Trump just says you don't get it.
phil labonte
This is my favorite.
tim pool
And then they're not citizens.
phil labonte
This is my favorite dilemma for the left that I've heard of in a long time.
tim pool
But anyway, anyway.
josie glabach
Don't let your enemy, what is it?
Don't let your enemy make a mistake.
phil labonte
Don't interrupt your enemy.
josie glabach
Don't interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake.
Yeah, you give them enough rogue to hang themselves.
tim pool
We've got the memo right here.
They've got 10 criteria that was mentioned in the article.
They say: individuals who pose a potential danger to national security, terrorism, espionage, et cetera.
Individuals who engage in torture, war crimes, or human rights violations.
Individuals who further or further the unlawful enterprise of criminal gangs, transnational criminal organizations, drug cartels, individuals who committed felonies that were not disclosed during the naturalization process.
That's massive.
Eat it.
Yeah, because if they don't disclose that, then they're not.
josie glabach
That's already a law on the books.
tim pool
And there are people who probably fled their home country because they committed crimes.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
Individuals who committed human trafficking, sex offenses, or violent crimes.
Individuals who engage in various forms of financial fraud against the U.S. That's going to be massive.
phil labonte
Eat it.
tim pool
Because they're going to, look, a lot of people play dirty games thinking, I'll get away with it.
It's fine.
You know, maybe on their taxes, they file something they know is false or whatever, but they think, what's the worst that's going to happen?
He's going to be like, okay, we'll get out.
What else we got?
Fraud against private individuals, acquiring naturalization through government corruption, fraud, or material misrepresent representations.
phil labonte
Ilhan Omar is a worried.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
Alleged corruption.
shane cashman
Yeah.
No incorrections.
tim pool
Ilhan Omar.
Yeah, he might.
I mean, is he going to have the balls to do it?
Because I'd love to see it.
phil labonte
I hope so.
tim pool
Let's see.
Cases referred to this attorney's office in connection with pending criminal charges.
Any other case referred to the civil division and the division that determines to be sufficiently important to pursue.
Now, here's the best part.
There's actually three other points made by this memo about what they plan to do.
And that's combating discriminatory practices and policies, actually four others.
Ending anti-Semitism.
Additionally, a very huge priority for the DOJ.
Protecting women and children.
And ending sanctuary jurisdictions, which legitimately is massive.
And they mentioned that's going to be a priority for this DOJ.
And so, holy smokes, man.
This is great.
Maybe because Trump was trying to gear it for MAGA month and he was like, we're going to make it so that the fourth is the best.
That's why they started to make all these announcements right the Monday week of 4th of July.
phil labonte
Hopefully.
tim pool
I am going to eat an extra cheeseburger off the grill in celebration.
phil labonte
Can't wait for cheeseburgers.
Look, this is all just absolutely wonderful stuff.
Anything that we can do to get rid of criminal aliens or even or criminals that are not from the United States, naturalized citizens, if you're breaking the law, send them back.
shane cashman
This might prevent a lot of people from coming too.
phil labonte
Yes.
shane cashman
Wow, I'm not going to get away with all that stuff.
phil labonte
I thought I'd get away with that.
That's the real important part of this, in my opinion, because the vaccine for immigration.
Getting people to leave, getting people to voluntarily go.
And I've talked about this a bunch, and there are people out there that are like, oh, you know, nobody would ever self-deport.
Nobody would ever do that.
Oh, why would they do that?
Et cetera.
Because you made it really difficult for them to be here.
Go after the employers that'll hire them.
Go after them.
Go after their remittances.
The whole the fact that the big, beautiful bill doesn't have a 50% tax and remittances is an abomination.
This is a terrible.
tim pool
What if they just announced that they're charging Ilhan Omar and like literally nobody else?
They're like, based on this memo, Ilhan, you're under arrest.
And that's all.
phil labonte
I mean, I want more, but that's free comic value.
josie glabach
Would she have lied if that whole thing with her brother, would she have lied for naturalization or would her brother have lied?
Did they both lie?
shane cashman
They both had to, right?
tim pool
Well, this is fraud against the U.S. government.
josie glabach
It qualifies.
No, I know.
And there's already, but it's not even the memo.
It's that that's part of this Congress's already written naturalization process.
They've already outlined this.
They've already written laws for it.
And that just be enforcing laws that already exist?
phil labonte
I believe so, yeah.
josie glabach
It wouldn't even, yeah, it wouldn't even come down to an executive order or the memo.
phil labonte
I mean, any, like I said, anything that we can do to get people to do it.
josie glabach
They just have to enforce laws a lot.
Enforcing laws that already exist.
tim pool
I would like to read this passage from six years ago.
Can you believe it's been six years from the Minnesota Star Tribune?
The Star Tribune is a paper of great record.
Like, it is not some rent.
This is the actual well-known paper in Minnesota.
They say, new documents revisit questions about Rep Ilhan Omar's marriage history.
And they say, new investigative documents released by a state agency have given fresh life to lingering questions about the marital history of Rep Ilhan Omar and whether she once married a man, possibly her own brother, to skirt immigration laws.
I want to stress this.
The Minnesota Star Tribune is not a conservative paper.
It is a Democrat paper saying she possibly married her own brother.
This allegation against her has merit.
When the Democrats come out and say it's BS, a conspiracy announced it's no, no, no, shut up.
That's because they're biased.
I'm not saying she did marry her brother.
I'm saying this has merit and could be investigated, should be investigated.
And I wouldn't be surprised if in the case of the investigation, the DOJ comes out and says, yes, she married her brother.
And isn't her brother gay?
phil labonte
I have no idea.
josie glabach
Well, they didn't consummate it then.
tim pool
Which means something better, I guess.
Better that they didn't?
josie glabach
Yeah, no, that's good.
That's good that they didn't.
It's then.
It's been.
shane cashman
We have no proof, though.
josie glabach
True, true.
Well, maybe, yeah.
unidentified
He's allegedly gay.
tim pool
They mentioned she's denied them as baseless rumors, but it's been ongoing.
Question service, again, this is from 2019, mind you.
In a state probe of campaign finance violation, showing that Omar filed federal taxes in 2014 and 15 with her current husband, Ahmed Hersey, while she was still legally married to but separated from Elmy.
Although she has legally corrected the discrepancy, she has declined to say anything about how or why it happened.
josie glabach
How do you accidentally marry your brother?
phil labonte
Whoopsie.
shane cashman
What had happened was...
unidentified
What had happened was...
phil labonte
I want to see it because any kind of breaking the law by the government, I want to investigate.
tim pool
Do we then avoid anything she's ever voted on?
What about her kids?
phil labonte
What about do her kids get to stay?
Yeah.
I would say no because she was here illegally and her the who actually she'll be given the choice to take her kids with her and most of them do well her father of her daughter is 20 something years old oh Then who's the father of her kid?
unidentified
I don't know.
phil labonte
I don't know either.
If he wasn't, if he was not a citizen, then I would just say, well, then they all got a guy.
Yeah.
But if he's a citizen, then it's like, all right, I would, I would say.
josie glabach
So, did she marry a white guy?
Is she one of the squad that married a white guy?
phil labonte
I mean, didn't they all?
josie glabach
Probably, probably a citizen.
unidentified
If I understand correctly, they all have boyfriends.
tim pool
Her daughter, it's, yeah, I'm at Hersey.
And Ilhan Omar are her parents, and she's 22.
She was born in Minneapolis.
She has a Wikipedia page.
You know, and she only does because she protested, and her mom is Ilhan Omer.
It was funny, though, because people were like, she has a 20-year-old daughter?
And it's like, yeah, she's 40, dude.
Like, millennials are so traumatized from not having kids, they can't comprehend that 40 is old.
josie glabach
40's not that old.
unidentified
Yes.
shane cashman
Yes, it is.
I just turned 40.
I'm old.
I feel old.
Sorry.
tim pool
I was telling people, like, there's this pro skater named Sean Hover.
He's fantastic.
And he's, you know, I think he's 39 or 38.
And he said, I couldn't skate today.
I had to tell my friends that I hurt my ankle.
And they're like, how'd you hurt your ankle?
And he goes, driving.
shane cashman
I've had some sneezes that took out my back.
We're middle-aged.
phil labonte
412.
tim pool
I know.
shane cashman
Maybe beyond.
phil labonte
So you're all young whippersnappers here.
shane cashman
Phil's got false teeth.
phil labonte
No, I don't have false teeth, but I do have some joints that have seen better days.
josie glabach
He threw out my finger today.
unidentified
What?
josie glabach
I don't know how I did it.
shane cashman
Welcome to Oldcast IRL.
tim pool
And I already know there's a bunch of like 50 and 60 year olds, 70 year olds watching and be like, you're not old.
You know, it's funny is like every conversation I've ever had from my 30s on, you know, it's like some older person's, I wish I was 30.
I wish I was 40.
It's like, yes, yep, yeah, I'm 40.
shane cashman
Relative.
tim pool
Well, I'm 39, but you know, basically 40.
Yeah.
phil labonte
When do you turn, when's your birthday?
tim pool
March 9th.
unidentified
Okay.
tim pool
I just turned 39.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Can you believe it's July already?
phil labonte
I don't really want to talk about it.
shane cashman
Almost a year since the failed assassination attempt.
phil labonte
Yep.
shane cashman
I mean, and we still don't have like real answers.
It's insane to me.
Can we just know that today?
tim pool
Can we say aliens?
Because it'll get more clicks for your show.
shane cashman
I think so.
Yeah.
Tune in later tonight, 10 p.m.
Aliens came down in Butler, Pennsylvania.
That's the only explanation, honestly, because we don't know anything.
They burned the body immediately.
josie glabach
Which is totally a normal thing to do.
shane cashman
Insane.
There was an investigation going on.
And they cremated the body before that was even done.
It's totally normal.
Yep.
josie glabach
They did that with Sandy Hook shooter, too.
shane cashman
Yeah, that one's also weird.
phil labonte
And again, why, you know, not why, but I'm still hopeful that the FBI is actually looking into it because there is a lot of questions left to be answered, you know, that have gone on.
shane cashman
A ton of answers that we need.
Pretty important day.
phil labonte
You know, pretty important day.
josie glabach
I'm sure Donald Trump will call for them to reopen it or it's open, but like Dumar.
I want to know about it.
shane cashman
Maybe on the anniversary.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, I would expect the Democrats to just be like, okay, well, you know, it happened and we've got all the information that we need.
Like that seems, you know, if it happened to them though.
tim pool
Oh, we got a correction.
Joe says McLean and Reston are in Fairfax County.
phil labonte
Oh.
tim pool
Is that for real?
I mean, that's my bad.
What'd you say?
phil labonte
McLean.
tim pool
Oh, wait a minute.
You're wrong.
No, he's right.
Gave me a different one.
It's in Fairfax County.
You are correct.
You are correct.
All right.
Let's just make sure we wrap all those counties in together, including, you know, wherever Bethesda is.
unidentified
I don't know.
phil labonte
Bethesda.
tim pool
All those counties around D.C. Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
But Louden is the highest, like, it's the wealth, it's like the wealthiest on average, highest median income in the country.
shane cashman
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I wonder what these people are doing.
shane cashman
Golden tickets.
tim pool
Lawyers.
shane cashman
Healthcare.
tim pool
Lawyers.
Let's jump to the next story, ladies and gentlemen.
It's happening.
The Senate has begun its vote on Trump's massive bill as Republicans race towards the final passage.
But everybody's kind of pissed.
A lot of bad stuff happened.
phil labonte
There's a lot of Bill.
tim pool
What's going on with my short-barreled rifles and my suppressors?
phil labonte
So they have removed the tax.
The parliamentarians said that the tax is acceptable under the Byrd rule.
They can change the tax.
They can make the tax zero.
But that's not good enough because the real egregious parts of the NFA aren't really the tax.
It's the registration, the fingerprints, the passport photo, and the fact that you can't travel interstate with an SBR or an SBS without notifying the ATF.
And especially around here, we live in an area where you can easily jump from into one state to another with, you know, just by going through some back.
shane cashman
Try to get to the other part of the state you left.
unidentified
Exactly.
phil labonte
Yeah, exactly.
And it shouldn't be a felony just for traveling.
So that is still the NFT, the Hearing Protection Act and the Short Act have not been fully put back in, but they will be reducing the $200 tax.
This does make the situation where if you were to get it to the Supreme Court, which I don't think the Supreme Court would actually grant cert for this, but if you were to be able to get this in front of the Supreme Court, then they would have to come down and say, okay, you can't regulate like this because the NFA has always been justified under the argument that it is a tax.
Multiple times throughout history, the NFA has been in front of the Supreme Court and they've said, this is a tax.
This is a tax.
tim pool
Real quick, additionally, it has been reported by many that they were going to remove 1.4 million illegal aliens from Medicaid, and now they will not.
phil labonte
This alone is reason enough to say no.
Do it again.
shane cashman
There's a ton of it.
tim pool
Yeah, but the problem, like, why are they letting the parliamentarian do any of this stuff?
phil labonte
I don't know.
josie glabach
The parliamentarian has an advisory role, but it comes down to the Senate's integrity.
If they don't listen to her, then it comes down to their pride or their ego or I don't know, something like that.
So what they do, they'll listen to her.
And I think it's only been challenged maybe once or twice.
And one of those times, they were nigged at the last minute and pulled back.
tim pool
Well, I think actually this person exists as a stopgap to prevent the people from actually having their will be met through the Senate.
It allows senators an excuse.
The reason they likely put the parliamentarian in with these rules and procedures was so they could say, What if all of our constituents demand a law that we must block?
Then let's blame bureaucracy and say, Oopsie, we couldn't do anything about it so we can still get re-elected.
josie glabach
She was installed by Harry Reid.
I think that there should be a law that if the guy who installed you died of old age, maybe your time is up.
phil labonte
Look, if I understand correctly, and I might have this wrong, but if I understand correctly, the changing of rules, right?
So the reason the Republicans are hesitant to just fire her and get someone else or just ignore her is because changing rules like that can end up backfiring.
And the example that I keep hearing is how Donald Trump ended up getting the Supreme Court nominees that he did, because the Democrats had changed the rules to get rid of the filibuster.
josie glabach
Yep.
phil labonte
And then Mitch McConnell used the fact that they didn't have that in order to help the Republicans to get multiple Supreme Court justices.
And I might have the details kind of loose, but it was changing the rules.
The situation is changing the rules like that can really backfire on you.
And if you change the rules, the Democrats will do it in the future.
But the argument is kind of moot because the Democrats are going to do it in the future anyways.
tim pool
Let's play Jeopardy.
And the answer is the amount of Senate parliamentarians that have served since the founding of the United States.
josie glabach
69.
tim pool
No.
josie glabach
Damn.
phil labonte
420?
tim pool
No.
unidentified
Okay.
shane cashman
Five.
tim pool
No.
First of all, the reason you are all wrong, no matter what your answer was, because the correct answer would be what.
josie glabach
They just came, they came up with it recently.
shane cashman
You'd say what we're playing in jeopardy.
tim pool
That's right.
unidentified
It's eight.
tim pool
Eight parliamentarians going back to 1935, where the first two served for decades, nearly 30 years.
Charles Watkins, Floyd M. Riddick served for 10 years.
josie glabach
Was that FDR?
1935?
shane cashman
Right before.
tim pool
Maybe.
I don't know.
35?
josie glabach
FDR did a lot of corrupt shit.
shane cashman
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
And then you basically had Robert Dove, then Alan Freeman, then Robert Dove, then Alan Freuman.
josie glabach
Oh.
tim pool
And then Elizabeth McDonough.
shane cashman
Wow.
tim pool
I think, I seriously think the decision exists because they were like, look, we don't want to give the American people what they want.
We want to rule through elitism and force, and we need excuses.
josie glabach
Has there been eight separate people or eight altogether?
tim pool
Eight.
There's been six.
josie glabach
Six people.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
But you're right.
So clarification.
You got Charles, Floyd, Murray, Dove, Fruman, and McDonough.
josie glabach
So the last 100 years, just about, came down to six people controlling the Senate.
Incredible.
unidentified
Wow.
phil labonte
Yeah.
shane cashman
That's insane.
They got to get rid of it.
I don't care if it backfires.
phil labonte
They just got to get stopped us.
I want them to overrule the parliamentarian in this context as well.
Because I don't think that there is a situation where, oh, well, then the Democrats will do it.
I don't think that exists.
I think the Democrats will do whatever they will.
They will use power when they have access to power.
So I think that they should.
But it is a legitimate concern, and I understand it.
But I do think that they should pass the bill as the House had it.
They should make sure that transgender operations are not funded.
They should make sure that illegals cannot get Medicare.
That was one thing that just drew over the nuts.
Like the, what's her name from Maine voted to allow illegal immigrants to get Medicaid?
This is insane.
Why are we paying for medical care for illegal immigrants?
Insane.
That alone should be enough.
tim pool
They can change the rules whenever they want.
Okay, nuke the filibuster, do it.
And everyone goes, but what if they change it?
They're going to, what are you talking about?
They tried to arrest Trump's lawyers.
What's the worst going to happen?
I'm so tired of these excuses for Republicans to be do-nothings with their hands under their asses.
shane cashman
I voted for wrecking balls.
I want things to be taken out.
Is the AI thing still on this bill?
No regulations for 10 years?
Like, you know what this?
Well, not Palantirs, just any AI.
There's no true.
There's the federal government overriding states' rights.
josie glabach
Yes.
shane cashman
So they can't do any AI regulations for a decade.
josie glabach
A lot of these.
Yes, exactly.
A lot of these are states' rights.
tim pool
Shane, what are you even mad about?
10 years doesn't even matter.
They only need six months.
shane cashman
Yeah, I mean, it's happening right now.
Everyone's going along with it anyway.
josie glabach
I want to read this exchange between me and Thomas Massey.
Shout out Thomas Massey, excellent congressman.
unidentified
All right.
josie glabach
Thomas Massey wrote, you were promised a big, beautiful bill would not do these things.
Prohibit welfare for illegal aliens, stop funding sex changes for kids, end registration of suppressors, defund Planned Parenthood for 10 years, implement the Reigns Act, and reduce the deficit.
So I asked, did the House put these provisions in and the Senate took them out?
And he wrote, yes.
But lest ye blame the Senate.
Watch the House now vote for the lobotomized version 2.0 product.
The initial promises got pro-life, pro-border security, and pro-gun groups to whip for version 1.0.
House reps voted for it, got pregnant, and now they will vote for version 2.0.
phil labonte
It's frustrating to think that that would happen.
I wish that the Republicans had more spine.
And to be honest with you, this is going to have an effect in the midterms.
tim pool
I kind of want them to go the other way.
Like, just give me one of the extremes because I can either speed it up or just put a stop to it.
And so at this point, I'm like, give every illegal immigrant free health care.
Just do it.
Just give them all.
josie glabach
Let's transgender.
tim pool
No guns.
No guns.
Mandatory transgender surgeries.
You know what?
I'm going to big ask everything from now on.
Whatever I want, I'm going to ask something 10 times.
Deport Americans.
I don't care what.
shane cashman
The giant ass.
tim pool
El Salvador.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
shane cashman
Not the big ass.
tim pool
So anybody who commits a crime, you get deported to South Sudan.
Anyone.
shane cashman
Perfect.
tim pool
Jaywalking, boom, gone.
shane cashman
Right to jail.
josie glabach
Right to Tech.
tim pool
In South Sudan.
josie glabach
I'm going to believe this.
tim pool
And then when people, as a little bit extreme, will say, okay, fine, fine.
Only the illegal immigrants then.
shane cashman
Oh, okay.
tim pool
The Americans can stay.
That's my compromise.
I learned from Trump.
shane cashman
I think Trump is so focused on just the branding of the big, beautiful bill that he wants it to pass.
And there's so many things in this thing that are terrible.
tim pool
I think he just wants the, what is it, $80 billion to deport everybody.
unidentified
Yeah.
josie glabach
Tim, that.
tim pool
And denaturalize people like Gilhan Omar.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
Yeah, I mean, I'm in favor.
josie glabach
Tim, your method works.
My daughters wanted a brother, and they wound up with three kittens.
It's very effective.
tim pool
Yeah.
Three kittens or one dog.
That's it.
It's a matter of money.
shane cashman
That's just the math.
unidentified
That's right.
josie glabach
I don't make the rules.
phil labonte
That's right.
tim pool
Yep.
I traded a dog and they gave me three kittens change.
unidentified
Yeah.
josie glabach
That's fair.
phil labonte
Three kittens and change.
unidentified
Very good.
tim pool
That'll be one cat.
josie glabach
Same amount of work.
shane cashman
I mean, real quick, while we're talking about Trump doing things, I do want to say he is about to go down for the opening ceremony for Alligator Alcatraz.
Are you going?
Are you going?
josie glabach
I'd love to go.
It is south of me.
I had named it Gator Gitmo.
shane cashman
Oh, that's good.
josie glabach
I'm good.
unidentified
Somebody said it was Alligatraz.
josie glabach
I can't even pronounce it Alligatraz.
shane cashman
That's good.
josie glabach
It's like, you know, you crush alligators.
Yeah, you turn into one thing.
That's incredible.
phil labonte
I know there are people upset about that as well, but look, man, if it's cool, yeah, I am.
I'm cool with this.
josie glabach
It's not cruel and unmutual punishment.
People live in the Everglades.
phil labonte
Yeah.
josie glabach
So it's, what are you saying?
Like, there's no violation.
tim pool
Everglades.
josie glabach
It's in the Everglades, yes.
unidentified
In.
Wow.
josie glabach
Yeah.
phil labonte
Surrounded by.
tim pool
It's kind of wild.
Like, people don't know the Everglades is this big mass of just like largely untouched land.
josie glabach
Pythons and alligators.
shane cashman
Yeah, it's dangerous.
tim pool
It's alligator paradise, man.
If you're a gator, you're like, this is all I ever wanted.
phil labonte
It's anaconda paradise and python paradise.
tim pool
Oh, dude, Florida's great.
I took one of those, what are those pontoon pontoons?
phil labonte
Pontoon boats.
tim pool
Yeah, and then we drove around and there were alligators everywhere and they were looking at us.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
They were mad.
shane cashman
I love it down there.
josie glabach
Did you boop their noses?
tim pool
No.
josie glabach
You are not a true Flurdian.
tim pool
Did you boop a gator's nose?
josie glabach
No, I'm not a true Flurdian either.
tim pool
No, we just went.
josie glabach
I came from a Massachusetts implant.
tim pool
And then they taught us, the tour guide taught us about, what is it called?
Like Los Arbors de la Muertos or something like that.
Yeah, I don't speak Spanish.
But the tree of death.
josie glabach
He probably just swore at somebody.
tim pool
What is it?
Let me look it up.
shane cashman
The tree of death.
josie glabach
Yes, that sounds kind of like that holiday from Coco.
tim pool
It's a good movie.
josie glabach
Yes, all of it.
tim pool
De los arbolos muertos.
Don't say it's arbolos muertos.
There's like a fruit that it like it melts your flesh.
And the natives, to execute people, would tie them to it and then just leave.
And then when it rains, whatever that chemical is washes down all over you and burns your skin and you just slowly die.
shane cashman
The perimeter of all your alcatraz should be with that.
tim pool
Well, that's like the apple of death.
phil labonte
The apple.
josie glabach
Where does it grow?
Native Americans, I mean, I guess those were all over, but there are a certain tribe that use that?
tim pool
Manchineil?
Little apple of death.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It's Manzanilla de la Muerte.
That's what it is.
unidentified
So then like the Navajo or I don't think the Navajo.
phil labonte
Navajo.
shane cashman
Not down there.
josie glabach
Oh, no.
unidentified
Yeah.
josie glabach
Seminoles in Florida.
Seminole.
unidentified
Here you go.
tim pool
Look at it.
This is it, I guess.
josie glabach
The Spanish-speaking.
tim pool
Least concern.
It's endangered in Florida, really.
All parts of the tree contain a strong toxin and other skin irritants.
Standing beneath the tree during a rain will cause blistering of the skin from mere contact with the liquid.
Even a small drop of rain with the sap in it will cause the skin to blister.
Burning the tree may cause ocular injuries.
Contact with this milky sap, latex, produces bolus dermatitis and keratoconjunctivitis.
phil labonte
Sounds awful.
josie glabach
I go hunt down and try to save this tree, but bad things happen when women touch apples.
tim pool
It says fruit is potentially fatal if eaten.
shane cashman
Nice.
tim pool
Yeah, it tastes sweet.
They told us about it.
What is it?
Curacao.
How do you pronounce that?
Curacao?
Marked with a red X and the tree indicate danger.
And the French intelligence, the tree is often marked with a red band.
Yeah, Florida's crazy, man.
shane cashman
Sucks.
You're the first guy to eat that though.
tim pool
Apparently that's the story they told us.
shane cashman
Oh, really?
tim pool
That like the Spanish came down and they were like, hey, look, I found an apple.
josie glabach
And then he was like, yeah, we're the Australia of America.
unidentified
Totally.
josie glabach
Our weird animals and fruits that kill you.
shane cashman
Crime.
Crime history.
tim pool
Remember that guy who ate?
Remember that guy who ate another guy?
shane cashman
No.
unidentified
Oh, no, that was Florida.
shane cashman
Was he on crocodiles?
josie glabach
Yeah, he was on bath salts.
shane cashman
Yeah, crocodiles.
unidentified
Oh, yes.
tim pool
Eating that guy's face.
And we were like, did the zombie apocalypse finally start?
josie glabach
And we're like, of course it's going to start in Florida, so it didn't shock us.
tim pool
Maybe we just seal off Florida and just, that's Alcatraz.
shane cashman
It might have to grow that big with all the illegals we have.
Sorry.
josie glabach
Yeah, I understand.
tim pool
Ron DeSantis just becomes a warden.
shane cashman
He needs an eye patch.
Get one from Dan Crench.
phil labonte
Just because he's a warden?
shane cashman
Yeah.
tim pool
Alligator Alcatraz.
phil labonte
I mean, I think it's a good idea.
I mean, I've been very pro-Gitmo, but I mean, this is nice too.
Actually, I think Gitmo is actually better because it's not actually in the U.S. The torture stuff's weird, though.
I didn't say we had to torture them.
shane cashman
Yeah, I'm just saying.
I just want to put it out there.
phil labonte
Oh, torture stuff.
shane cashman
Like torturing people in Gitmo and the hoods and waterboarding.
phil labonte
I mean, that was a long time ago, man.
shane cashman
George Bush going down there hoods on people.
phil labonte
We don't have to torture anybody.
They just go.
tim pool
Let's pick this up.
We got this from Fox News.
Trump to visit Alligator Alcatraz for grand opening of Swampy Everglades Attention Center for illegal aliens.
phil labonte
I want to see him with big scissors in the red.
That's what they're doing.
I hope.
shane cashman
There's alligators waiting for the hats.
Alligators in top hats.
tim pool
Actually, I disagree.
I think it should be the ceremonial rolling out the last chain link fence.
There you go.
Because it's not open to the public now.
It's sealed off.
shane cashman
True.
tim pool
Or the final brick.
shane cashman
A photo of AOC crying outside of it.
tim pool
That's true.
shane cashman
Someone Photoshop that.
tim pool
Can we convince her to go and do that?
shane cashman
I'm sure it probably doesn't need much convincing.
tim pool
Where is Alligator Alcatraz?
josie glabach
It's near Disney.
tim pool
That'd be hilarious.
josie glabach
No.
Very close to Disney.
I like the way you're thinking.
No, it's near Miami.
It's a little north of Miami.
shane cashman
Incredible.
phil labonte
Wow.
So that's way down there.
tim pool
Yeah, look at this.
shane cashman
Is it by Alligator Alley?
It's Alligator Alley cutting across.
josie glabach
It's a big spot here.
Yeah.
tim pool
This is how crazy.
Like the Everglades is literal nothing.
shane cashman
Yeah, dude.
tim pool
And you know what really bothers me the most is that you could put a shopping mall right there, a Walmart, right?
phil labonte
Maybe a floating shopping mall.
tim pool
It could be a Dave and Buster's right over here.
You know, what's going on?
phil labonte
All this stuff.
tim pool
You just zoom in.
What is it?
josie glabach
Are you going to find some alligators?
tim pool
Some shrubs.
phil labonte
Nobody needs that.
josie glabach
Do you remember in the 90s, I think, a plane crashed into the Everglades?
unidentified
Yeah.
josie glabach
Yeah, horrifying.
That's like the worst way.
Like your plane crashes into snakes and alligators.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
This is just nothing here.
It's just reeds and swamp.
Yep.
I used to live in the Redlands in Miami, which, for those that aren't familiar, it's like, where is it?
Where's Homestead?
There it is.
So Redland.
So I had a house right down here briefly for about a year when I was working at Fusion.
And it's like, you just, seriously, we just get in the car and drive for five minutes.
And then it's just literally just shrubs, dirt, and alligators.
josie glabach
I think Homestead is technically included in parts of it are included in the Everglades.
phil labonte
Really?
tim pool
That's where Obama was locking up all them kids.
Homestead was where they had the immigrant child detention center.
And it was like a big deal, and Obama made it.
And then Trump inherited it.
And they were like, oh, no, Trump, why are you locking up kids?
And he was like, I am.
Oh, I didn't realize that Obama was doing it.
phil labonte
I am?
tim pool
I am.
phil labonte
Well, I mean, like I said, I don't think that I don't think this is a bad thing.
I like the idea of having more prisons for criminals because it's.
josie glabach
The worst scumbags.
phil labonte
Yeah, it seems that we, you know, there has been a almost a moratorium on imprisoning people.
And I think that should end if you're here, particularly if you're really.
tim pool
What?
unidentified
Whoa.
tim pool
I just looked up where it is.
Let me zoom out.
Where is this thing?
Yo, it's like right in the middle.
josie glabach
Oh, nice.
tim pool
There it is.
unidentified
Perfect.
tim pool
Apparently it's like right over here by the airport.
phil labonte
There you go.
That's actually right here.
josie glabach
By the airport, so they can just bust them right up there.
Oh, wow.
phil labonte
Wow.
That is actually what it is.
It's like the level in GoldenEye.
I've seen pictures of the strip hole.
tim pool
The landing strip is in the alligator Alcatraz stuff?
phil labonte
I think that's where they built alligator Alcatraz.
tim pool
Right, right.
I looked it up, and this is what it told me where it's at.
That would make, can you Google Earth?
Can we like street view this thing?
Let's go.
shane cashman
Can we set a lot down there for video?
josie glabach
Oh, nice.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
We're going to alligator Alcatraz.
phil labonte
You know, that doesn't look nearly as swampy as I expected.
josie glabach
I think there has to be some solid land where they're building, probably.
unidentified
Right.
shane cashman
No, we should just push them out of a helicopter.
josie glabach
But they should make swamps like Walt Disney did, but filled them with alligators.
unidentified
Okay.
All right.
tim pool
Here we go.
shane cashman
A life raft.
tim pool
So I think this must be like where they're doing it.
It is not as swampy as you'd think.
phil labonte
Yep, there you go.
What is that?
Is that Bigfoot?
shane cashman
What is that?
tim pool
It's like some monster truck.
Gravedigger.
josie glabach
Awesome.
tim pool
Oh, there you go.
josie glabach
I love Florida.
tim pool
Alligator.
Look at that.
Alligator Alcatraz.
And you got Deucey showing up.
shane cashman
It's official.
tim pool
He's on vacation.
He's retired to Florida and now he just walks around Florida for Fox News.
I'm not kidding.
That's what he does.
He's just walking around.
I watch Fox and Friends every morning.
And, you know.
phil labonte
I like Fox and Friends.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, you can't have a morning without your friends.
phil labonte
No, you can't.
But, I mean, like I said, this is a good thing.
Ron DeSantis down there.
He'll be taking care of the criminals.
shane cashman
I like that Alcatraz is just back, like in the collective consciousness.
There's the word Alcatraz is back.
phil labonte
It is.
There was rumors that they were talking about reopening Alcatraz, but I think they decided to do that.
tim pool
That was a big story.
Trump's anyone to do it.
phil labonte
Didn't they decide that it's going to be too much work or something like that?
josie glabach
Might as well just build a new one in the middle of the speakers.
tim pool
And also, I just literally don't care about anything the left says anymore.
They're concern about government and all of this stuff.
I'm like, you've really lost all of the arguments entirely.
Like a society needs to be able to enforce its laws and its worldview and maintain what it wants.
And so what ends up happening is we have these blasphemy laws and you can't swear in public.
And people are like, dude, it's not that big a deal, right?
And over every decade, we slowly erode the moral foundation of the country.
Any insinuation that we would in any way, even the tiniest degree, go back to enforcing what we morally believe in is called fascism or authoritarianism.
And it's like, dude, you're literally sterilizing children.
Okay.
Nah, we got to go back.
We're going to start telling people you can't do that weird stuff in public.
You can't be sterilizing kids.
shane cashman
How many leftist mayors released prisoners at the beginning of lockdowns?
I mean, New York City, they just opened the doors and they're like, we don't need you in here.
tim pool
I wonder if we've gotten to the event horizon of social decay.
The point where you can't turn it around.
shane cashman
It does feel like that in certain places.
josie glabach
It's, I think, some state...
Some states, I think, can turn it around still, thanks to states' rights.
But there's states that are, they're picking up the slack for those states that aren't turned around.
shane cashman
I will say New York's been there before.
In the 70s, it was horrible there.
Just a totally terrible place.
But it seems to be getting back to that area, you know, with the crime.
josie glabach
The ebb and the flow.
I guess it depends on who's running it.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, they're in for a rough ride if they get after the whole defund the police thing.
And then if Mamdani does become the mayor and he actually institutes his own policies that he's proposing, there will be a significant increase in crime.
It's already worse than it was 10 years ago.
And he's back on the defund the police stuff.
I think there's something like 40% of police are saying, I'm going to retire or I'm going to quit if Mamdani gets elected.
josie glabach
It's Sodom and Gomorrah, like the way it's planned.
The way he's like, we're going to have prostitutes everywhere.
All the criminals we're going to release.
phil labonte
Hookers and crap.
josie glabach
There's not going to be any cops.
shane cashman
There will be a rise in vigilantes in that city and cities like it.
josie glabach
Oh, and they'll definitely put those guys in jail.
shane cashman
For sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
For sure.
That's why they'll wear a look at them.
phil labonte
Because the criminals don't know any better.
But you, as a normal citizen that goes out to try and stop them, you know better.
shane cashman
You have morals.
phil labonte
Which is typical of, I mean, Siljer Nitsin, that's where I got that idea from Soljunitsin to talk about the Soviet Union that way.
You're expected as a good communist or good citizen, you're expected to know better.
But the criminal, well, he wouldn't know better.
You have to take care of him, which is the same kind of maternalism that you're seeing in the United States now, which is running rampant and actually causing so many problems in the U.S. They outsourced tyranny so well during lockdowns that your neighbors just became tyrants overnight and were happy to tell on you.
So, yeah, I mean, yes, they did.
And I think that that is something that more people, I mean, I'm glad that people noticed And that they're seeing that because that is exactly how the Soviet Union kept people in line.
It's exactly how East Germany kept people in line.
You know, I heard stories of when the Berlin Wall fell, you could go and talk to, if you were arrested, you could actually go and find out who turned you in.
And you hear stories about people that were living with people and this woman that was like, oh, I'm going to go find, she spent five years or whatever in prison or whatever.
She went down to find out.
And it was the dude that she was still currently living with.
She had to go home and be in the same apartment with him.
And he turned her in.
And she spent, you know, she was, I don't know if she was tortured or whatever, but she spent years in prison because of it.
He's the one that turned her in.
So the idea that people won't decide to embrace the authoritarian impulse.
And it gets so bad, it's just like, oh, if I send this person in, I'll get an extra room in my house.
Or if I turn my neighbor in, you know, or someone that I work with, I might get their job.
Those kind of petty things are what people start doing.
And that's why the fabric of society just completely falls apart.
We talk about the United States, how we want a high trust society, and that's what actually produces a good life for your societies.
When you know, when you can, you know, you know your neighbors aren't going to kick in your door or take your stuff if you forget to lock something up or whatever.
If you have a society that might turn you into the government, all rules are off.
The whole society, nobody trusts anyone, and it destroys the cohesion, not only, but it also destroys the kind of happiness that people have because you can't feel content and safe that if you're always looking over your shoulder.
tim pool
There was a restaurant nearby that went out of business and we were surprised because we ordered from them, you know, every couple of months.
Every Friday we order food for everybody and we try and vary what's going to be.
They went out of business and I was talking to locals why and they said they couldn't find anybody to work there.
And I was like, is that a joke?
Nope.
They couldn't find anybody to cook.
They couldn't find anybody to serve.
So they just shut down.
They were actually doing really well.
And I think when we talk about the event horizon of social collapse, young people are so entitled and lazy.
And I don't mean every single young person.
I'm saying that there is such a high density of entitled, lazy, I don't know, what's the right word?
What's the word for like lacking passion, devoid of passion?
josie glabach
Complacency.
tim pool
I don't know if it's complacency.
They're depressed and uninspired.
So what ends up happening now is this dependency has been created by the establishment over the past 30 years where it's like, now you've got no choice but to import the third world because at least they'll do the jobs.
Instead, we could have taught our young people the value of hard work and taking pride in their jobs, whatever those jobs may be.
But instead, especially me growing up, the insinuation was always, you want to end up being a garbage man?
Huh?
You want to be a cook?
You better not.
And it's like, okay, okay, geez, I won't.
And now millennials are like, I ain't doing that.
It's disrespectful or it's dishonorable.
shane cashman
That's what the people who are studying the population collapse with the mice, you know, when it got to the edge of the civilization collapse.
phil labonte
Masutopia.
shane cashman
Masutopia, yeah, and the beautiful ones they would call them when they would get to that certain point where it's about to collapse and the mothers are eating their young, like mouse, mice would all of a sudden become homosexual.
And then there'd be these mice who would just not go anywhere and just groom themselves, which I think of as like the rise in influencers that we have today.
And I mean, there's people who would be like, you can't look at mice as a way to study humans.
But they were looking at the way the civilization was collapsing every time.
tim pool
And then when they would take mice that had what they call, what is it, behavioral sink, and they would put them into a normal mouse society.
They would not correct their behavior.
They would spread it.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
And those mice, we call them, the colloquial name of those mice experiencing behavioral sink were liberals.
shane cashman
That's right.
tim pool
Liberal mice.
shane cashman
Mom Dani was his name.
tim pool
Mom Dani was one of the leaders.
phil labonte
It's worth noting that the idea that that kind of attitude, whether it be in something like mice or a society, that kind of attitude does spread.
And it's why you see people on the left behaving the way they do today.
Because 25, 30 years ago, the left that we have today was not the same left.
It was very different.
The number of people that would have entertained socialist ideas or called themselves socialist openly, they were vanishingly few.
And nowadays, it's not.
shane cashman
Left of the 90s are Trump and RFK Jr.
phil labonte
Sort of, yeah.
And nowadays, it's all the rage to, at least in the urban areas and cities.
And I think that part of why you see this stuff is because of cities, because of the way life in cities is now, because it's so expensive.
And if you have debt from school and you can't find a job, I mean, it's got to be a nightmare.
So it makes sense for people to be unhappy.
And unhappy people want to change their situation.
And if they have nothing, maybe tearing everything down is fine because maybe I'll have something then.
Or at the very least, all these people that have stuff won't have stuff just like I don't have stuff.
And so there's just all these terrible, terrible human impulses that get, you know, they get amplified and people really latch on to them when you have that kind of society.
unidentified
Yep.
shane cashman
Nihilism breeds violence.
phil labonte
Yep.
shane cashman
We saw it in the summer of love.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
shane cashman
People stopped caring about themselves.
They had meaninglessness and their only meaning was to destroy, like you're saying.
Tear everything down.
serge du preez
I saw somebody speaking in South Africa recently.
I'm a little bit out of frame on this, but I saw someone speaking in South Africa recently saying that the idea that everyone had to take from the white people was the wrong idea.
No one ever came to South Africans, at least the ones who lived in South Africa after the ANC took over and said to them, hey, you can go and build a bigger country, build a better country.
They just said, oh, I must take it from the white people.
I must take it from all the British and the Indians, the Malays who also live in South Africa because they have and I have nothing.
No one ever went to them and told them, build more, make South Africa bigger, make it stronger, add to it.
And I think that's what people need to be told.
They can.
Like Tim says, I was told not to do these jobs and stuff in high school.
And I didn't.
I did both.
I went to school and got my academic stuff.
You're welcome mom and dad.
Thank you for bringing me to America.
But beyond that, like Tim said, I've seen so many kids just don't want to do anything.
But there's no hope.
I don't know.
I don't know what to tell them.
But you have to work without hope.
I had a little hood of hope when I was young, too.
tim pool
anyways, let's jump to the story.
We got this from PolitiFact.
New York City mayoral candidate Zoran Mamdani is a communist.
phil labonte
False.
Shocker, they're lying.
tim pool
They wrote false.
Despite the fact he has a tweet where he says this is the kind of candidate New York needs, and it says hashtag communism.
They go on to say in what may be the stupidest argument, but look, look, they're arguing to stupid people intentionally, okay?
Smart people, they're going to figure it out, but they know that smart people aren't going to vote socialists because socialists are developmentally disabled.
They say Zoran Mamdani, the 33-year-old who soared the lead, blah, blah, blah, described himself as a democratic socialist, but some politicians and social media posts falsely labeled him a communist.
Nick Sorter, Ben Shapiro, Oli Stefanik, et cetera.
They say Mamdani's platform calls for making transportation, housing, and groceries more affordable, but experts say he hasn't espoused key tenets of communism, such as government takeover of industry and private property.
Mamdani is not a communist, wrote Anna Grismala Bus, Stanford University Professor, saying communism involves a centrally planned economy with no market forces.
Prices and quantities are set by a central government authority.
There is no democratic political competition.
Instead, a single party rules the country.
He is not calling for any of this.
In other words, if we can go full Godwin's law, she's basically saying that the argument would have been that Hitler isn't a fascist, tyrannical, genocidal maniac because he was only advocating for making Germany better and taking back historical lands that were stolen.
If he was actually a genocidal maniac, he would be advocating right now before attaining power for the mass genocide.
You get the point.
Phil posted this sentence to me earlier, the Lenin quote, the goal of socialism is communism.
Socialism is the mechanism by which you build a communist system.
The end result of socialism is always communism because you can't have socialism.
It doesn't work.
It can't function in a market economy.
So the moment you take any amount of the means of production and seize them, you destroy the market who can't compete with the guns you're pointing at people.
And then you start centrally planning the economy and become a communist nation.
They're arguing he's not communist because he's not advocating outright to destroy your way of life and take away your choice.
He would never win if he did.
Now, here's this great tweet.
It's funny.
Jamie Bankowicz says, for F's sake, socialism is not communism.
Capitalism, anybody can be rich.
Communism, nobody can be rich.
Socialism, anybody can be rich, but nobody should be poor.
phil labonte
That's so ridiculous.
tim pool
And it's got 2 million views.
josie glabach
It's so infantile.
phil labonte
It is.
tim pool
This is somebody who's never actually read anything about socialism or communism.
phil labonte
Look, Mamdani has said that he wants to, he said the end goal is to seize the means of production.
tim pool
Well, my response was when Mamdani said no billionaires, billionaires shouldn't exist, she basically then just said he's a communist.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I mean, how, what do you, what do you propose you do to make sure that there are no billionaires other than seize their property?
josie glabach
Which he said he wanted to seize the means of production at one point.
They are targeting boomers in the silent gen with this as people who live through the red scare.
And they need to be like, oh no, like he's a communist.
It's pretty obvious.
So we need to write an article to calm these people down who are told communism is a dirty word, which it is.
But yes, he actually, I have this right here.
It's a clip from an article.
It says, Zoran Mamdani attended Bank Street, a prestigious Manhattan private school that now costs as much as $66,000 a year for elementary school students.
Communist who went to a Manhattan private school.
phil labonte
It's always that way.
tim pool
I love this week.
phil labonte
Carol Mark's father was paying his bills and wealthy, you know?
josie glabach
Oh, absolutely.
tim pool
We've got this regular old comment.
Divide and Conquer says, Tim defending the rich consolidation of power.
I ask you, what is the difference between the rich consolidating power and politicians consolidating power?
What is the difference between cult leaders consolidating?
Nothing.
It's literally all consolidation of power.
I'll tell you this.
The tendency among the rich to have worked for and earned that in some way versus politicians who lie, cheat, and steal to get it and cult leaders who lie, cheat, and steal to get it, I would prefer the meritocratic work-based system, despite the fact some people do get wealthy through corruption.
Corruption is going to exist in any kind of power consolidation.
At the bare minimum, a capitalist system takes a long time to become tyrannical, whereas a communist system snaps its fingers to become tyrannical.
So that's the funny thing.
Take your pick.
If we go capitalism, in about 200 years, ultra-wealthy people give rise, start consolidating power, merging their companies, and then entrench themselves in the political establishment, and you get crony capitalism.
That sucks.
We can go for communism, in which snap your fingers, the party rules, and the crony, and you'll beg for crony capitalism, at least you had cheeseburgers.
Or we can go socialism, which is let's not run into communism.
Let's just give it a few years first.
phil labonte
Yeah, I mean, look, the Fabian socialists were not revolutionaries, right?
They wanted to vote socialism in, but they were still looking for socialism.
And socialism, again, like we said earlier, the goal of socialism is communism.
Socialism is the state that leads you to communism.
tim pool
Here's some questions socialists can answer.
Define the means of production.
Anybody?
phil labonte
So property.
Well, I would say any property that you can use to produce, I think that they say any property that can help you produce more property.
tim pool
So your house.
phil labonte
It's capital.
tim pool
Your house is the means of production?
phil labonte
Well, it depends what you do with it, but I assume so.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, what if you have a one acre plot of land in a suburb and you start growing some herbs in your back room under special green lights and everything?
You go to the grocery store, you buy some, or the hardware store, you buy some lamps, and you're like, I'm going to grow some rare herbs that I can sell and make a bunch of money.
And then you make enough money to buy the neighbor's house next to you and expand your operation.
So is your house the means of production?
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
In which case, the argument is, if that is, and they'll never say this.
They will never agree with you.
They'll say, no, of course not.
phil labonte
No, that's your personal property.
That's not private property.
tim pool
Right.
It's personal.
Okay.
Well, I can produce, you know, I can metal work or do carpentry in my garage.
Is that the means of production?
No.
Okay, what if I have two garages?
phil labonte
Yes.
tim pool
Okay, what if I have one garage as big as two and I built it myself?
I don't know.
There's no answer.
I've asked socialists so many times because I'm like, bro, the means of production for me is a camera.
I saved up.
I bought a camera.
In fact, I got, first I used, I used a GoPro.
It's a $300 GoPro.
I would put it on top of my monitor and press the record button and then talk for 10 minutes and then just plug it in and transfer the footage to my computer.
So my computer is the means of production.
So I'm not allowed to own a computer now?
They go, no, your computer is your personal property.
Okay, well, I make millions of dollars doing that.
Now I'm rich.
What they're telling you is we're going to lie to you and claim other people are the bad guys so we can implement the communist system.
Socialism is not a real thing.
Socialism does not exist.
Let me stress this again.
Anybody claiming to be a socialist is lying because socialism literally does not exist.
I'm going to say it again.
Capitalism exists.
Communism exists.
Socialism can't exist.
And I'm going to stress the argument of socialism is the workers control the means of production, but no one can define the means of production.
shane cashman
It's any size.
Didn't the Soviets go around taking even seeds out of people's houses during the famine when they were starving everyone to death?
phil labonte
It was horrible.
shane cashman
Like anything could go.
phil labonte
Yeah, during the holodomorphy, if you were found with like a grain of wheat, it'd kill you.
josie glabach
Yeah.
shane cashman
Done.
josie glabach
I think technically the four points of the means of productions are land, labor, capital, and technology.
And they can make any of those things anything they want.
Like you said, a grain of wheat, you get murdered because that's technically falls into one of those.
shane cashman
They just move the goalposts, satisfy whatever they have to destroy.
josie glabach
Yep.
shane cashman
And then own.
phil labonte
And also it's worth noting that when you're in a socialist society, the government has the authority to do whatever they want.
So they may say, oh, no, your computer's not the means of production until you produce something.
And then they're like, that's mine now.
And whatever you made's mine, too.
shane cashman
Absolutely.
tim pool
So yeah, it's land and natural resources, factories and infrastructure, machines and tools, raw materials and energy sources.
All of those will be owned by everyone, aka the state, for the committee to decide on what to do with it.
So good luck having a hobby car.
Good luck inventing something.
shane cashman
Imagine them with all the supercomputers and AI.
tim pool
This is a funny thing.
This is like every young adult future dystopia where it's like, I want to be an astronaut.
unidentified
Well, you can't because your job is goat crap shoveler.
tim pool
Like in a socialist society, as they dictate, you would go to your committee and say, I have an idea for a new kind of engine and I need the materials to build it.
And they go, you're not an engineer.
You're a painter.
And yes, I know, but I've been reading a lot about this.
unidentified
How?
tim pool
You don't have those books.
You're not supposed to be reading those things.
Answer is no.
Get out.
josie glabach
Well, they're all like, I want to live on my commune and I want to paint and I want to farm on my commune and I'm like our commune.
phil labonte
And one of the worst things about it is it destroys the motivation to do anything.
Nobody wants to try if the government's just going to take it.
If you can't have that, if you can't possess the profits of your labor, if you can't work and then actually better your life through that work, nobody wants to work.
tim pool
We're there now, though.
I think the state of the U.S. actually is to the point one of the issues that's leading to social degradation is, look, progressive tax system is simple.
If you make, you know, I'm going to use rudimentary, you know, let's just actually let's pull the tax brackets.
Show me progressive U.S. tax brackets.
Let's do the actual hard numbers.
So the first bracket, I think, is, here we go.
Zero to $11,925, you get taxed at 10%.
So from 11 to 48, it's 12.
From 40 to 103, it's 22.
From 103 to 197, it's 24.
Everything above 626 is 37%.
What this means is that if you are working, if you run your own business, salary is immaterial.
So if you make widgets at a factory, you're then sitting there going, okay, if I work 40 hours this week, I'm going to make $100,000 by the end of the year and get taxed at 22%.
If I decide to stay open on weekends so I can increase my output, that will put me in the next bracket, the next 100,000, I lose 2%.
Every time I decide to work harder and expand my business, the return on my investment decreases.
So it's not an exponential growth curve.
It's not a parabolic growth curve.
It's not a straight line.
It's actually a diminishing return until you plateau and you say, what's the point of doing work anymore?
What's the point of working twice as hard when the government just keeps taking the more you work?
They're telling you not to work.
And that's going to cause a problem.
And then you get these socialists.
No one should be poor.
Yeah, I'm sorry I had to break it to you, but criminals, like people who hurt other people are going to end up poor.
You know, some of them will get rich for sure, but a lot of them will end up poor because they're doing bad things.
The idea that no one should be poor is insane.
josie glabach
I had a Sargon of Akkad on my show a few weeks ago, and he was.
unidentified
He's great.
josie glabach
Yeah, he's wonderful.
And he was talking about the tax policy in the UK where he's living.
And he was explaining that it's like this.
Only it's like you make up to like 20, 30,000, something like that.
He said, and you get taxed at 20%.
But he's like, as soon as you make more than that, they double the tax.
tim pool
Oh, yeah.
josie glabach
They paid 40% tax.
And I was like, so there's no incentive.
People don't want to make more.
tim pool
After £50,000, everything is taxed at £40,000.
From £12,000 to £50,000, it's 20%.
That's insane.
josie glabach
Yep.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
45%.
phil labonte
How do you, how, how do you, I mean, I can't even imagine what it's like trying to run a business over there.
tim pool
Yep.
josie glabach
Yeah, it's really bad.
And I mean, we have the 17th grievance in the Declaration of Independence over taxes.
And I mean, we're pretty bad right now.
We're pretty bad ourselves, but we're not quite that.
tim pool
Scotland is different, though.
Go move to Scotland.
They do.
phil labonte
I can't understand anyone over there.
They speak this weird English that nobody's.
tim pool
It's 10%.
Nah, I take that back.
It's the same.
They have more brackets, but from 26 to 43, it's 21%.
And from 43 to 75, it's 42, 45, 48.
So it's effectively the same thing.
It doubles after, that's actually worse.
Yeah, in the UK, if you're making 50,000 pounds, what is that, like 70K a year?
I don't even think that's insane.
phil labonte
Maybe 70.
josie glabach
Yeah, so everybody makes the same amount because they're like, well, I'm not getting punished for making any more money.
There's no point in making more money.
shane cashman
Great for ingenuity.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
I mean, the U.S. is no different.
They can talk all they want about how, no, rich people don't pay their taxes, blah, blah, blah.
Like, dude, there's like 100 people that have made enough money to get to that point.
Everybody else, it is backbreaking, bone breaking to try and get that.
And you're just losing.
phil labonte
The people that say rich people don't pay any taxes or pay their fair share, they're not only like they're the dumb people.
You have to be completely ignorant or, you know, motivated to not know to believe that.
josie glabach
Can they know what somebody's paying in taxes or would that be a fraud?
Or would that be a felony to know what somebody's paying in taxes?
How do they know the rich aren't paying their fair share unless they're looking at their taxes?
tim pool
Well, it's all vague.
It's all made up.
phil labonte
Some politician told them that so that way they'd vote for them.
josie glabach
Look at that.
So there's no way when Elizabeth Warren's up there saying, we need billionaires to pay their fair share.
She has no idea, for one, what a fair share is.
For two, that they're not paying whatever she wants them to pay because she would be committing a felony if she did know that because she would not have fairly gotten that information.
phil labonte
They have no idea.
And it doesn't matter.
Like the dollar amount doesn't matter because that's why they say things like fair share because it's an abstract, you know, an abstraction that they can.
josie glabach
Well, it sounds like rainbows and unicorns and lollipops.
Fair share.
Isn't that something you would want?
Don't we want a planned parenthood?
That's a great idea, right?
Yeah.
See where that's going?
It's all about the language.
tim pool
Let's jump to this next story from designrush.com.
Jaguar sold 49 cars in April.
That legit, like the whole company sold 49 cars.
phil labonte
Those remember the commercial?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
Moke rebrand.
shane cashman
I'm surprised it didn't work.
phil labonte
That did not work.
josie glabach
That was the, that was like, I felt like I was watching, like being hypnotized when I was watching that commercial.
shane cashman
It was an MKUltra commercial.
You should have looked at it.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
All right, you guys ready?
Here we go.
josie glabach
Shield your eyes.
shane cashman
Oh no.
josie glabach
All right, doesn't it seem hypnotizing?
tim pool
Create exuberant.
phil labonte
49 cars, guys.
josie glabach
It's the low vibrational music and the colors and like the movement.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
This is like what triggered Zoolander in the movie.
unidentified
Exactly.
Right?
Yes.
tim pool
What were they thinking?
I copy nothing.
So actually.
phil labonte
It's hilarious.
tim pool
I will say, it's kind of woke, but it's not really like nothing in itself really political.
It's just a bunch of people dressed in a very weird, disturbing way.
josie glabach
Were there any straight white men?
phil labonte
No.
tim pool
I mean, there might be.
Look, this guy right here.
Look at him.
shane cashman
Is that a man?
tim pool
Yes.
That's a guy.
And then isn't that a guy right there in a dress?
shane cashman
Isn't that a guy right there in a dress?
tim pool
I think that's a lady.
josie glabach
All right.
tim pool
That might be it.
shane cashman
That one's a Nordic alien in the yellow.
unidentified
All right.
josie glabach
So there are no white women.
phil labonte
Blonde eraser head is definitely a woman right there.
josie glabach
Oh, yes.
That is a woman.
tim pool
See, I don't think it's woke just because it's weird.
shane cashman
No.
tim pool
You know what I mean?
But they did rebrand and do this and then sold 49 cars.
And congratulations, I guess.
josie glabach
How much do these cars go for?
tim pool
I don't know.
Let's find out.
phil labonte
49 cars.
josie glabach
Someone in the chat will know.
shane cashman
Yeah, they were on clearance.
tim pool
$73,000?
josie glabach
Times $49,000.
tim pool
Is that what it was?
No, between $100,000 and $200,000.
shane cashman
Okay, I wonder how much that commercial cost.
tim pool
I don't know.
Maybe it's what they wanted.
They apparently got rid of all the other cars and they're like, this is the new thing, and then nobody wants it.
Like, I wouldn't drive that.
unidentified
now they can market it as being It does look gay.
tim pool
Like, literally.
I'm not saying it to be mean.
josie glabach
I can't.
tim pool
It looks like you like men if you drive that car.
josie glabach
I can't.
I see what the chats nickname the commercial, and I cannot say it on Tim Cast IRO.
tim pool
Oh, that's offensive.
You can't.
You can't say that.
phil labonte
What are you guys talking about in the chat?
You guys talking crazy out there?
josie glabach
I see the chat.
tim pool
So, you know, my thoughts on this, I know everyone's going to say get woke, go broke.
But again, like, I don't think it's overtly woke.
I think the issue is there's no culture anymore.
So you go back in time and everyone's trying to be like each other.
They're trying to fit in socially.
There's styles.
And you want to push the boundaries of style without going too crazy.
And so some guy decides, I'm going to wear a cover.
I'm going to cover my buttons.
And they're like, you're covering your buttons with that strange piece of cloth.
Now I'm going to do it.
And everyone starts wearing a tie or whatever.
Some guy decides to wear a cape, and all of a sudden cape's become a thing.
But if you go too far too far with it, you get this.
What I think is happening is culturally, everything has become splintered and ejected.
And no one knows what to emulate or what is socially acceptable.
So Jaguar is like, let's just try this random thing because who knows?
You know, nobody likes the old James Bond aesthetic.
shane cashman
Yeah, but there was like something masculine about Jaguar that they mutilated with this.
tim pool
That's true.
shane cashman
And then there was a legacy associated to it, you know, and then they just totally rebranded to this, which doesn't have any legacy to it.
tim pool
Real quick, that's a good point.
It could be considered woke in that Jaguar was the James Bond-esque style of masculine, come here, no, come here, no, come here, okay, fine.
And then Sean Connery, the joke is he goes, three no's and a yes means yes.
And that was the brand.
And they were like, let's just go for this weird, you know, verse.
phil labonte
Those, the, the whole, like, even the ad and the cars, all, they just make me think of like some kind of throwback to a 1960s kind of attempt at maybe postmodernism or absurdity.
Mid-century, modern alien.
It doesn't work, apparently.
Who'd have guessed?
serge du preez
The left gave up on like making actual art and stuff.
Like they used to be all about art and stuff.
They just stopped doing it and they all try to do politics, which is just communism.
And now all the art sucks.
All the movies suck.
All the music sucks.
And you wonder why?
It's because the people that dedicate themselves to art don't do any art anymore.
All they do is complain and protest and moan and cry and don't go to work and don't do anything.
That's what I'm saying.
phil labonte
Part of the reason why they complain is because everything on the left is deconstruction.
You know, it's take all of the things that are beautiful and deconstruct them and say why they're not beautiful and say why they're bad.
tim pool
We should do a show, a rock show, where we deconstruct the songs.
So I'll go up first and play the guitar riff and then leave.
And then, you know, we'll have Brandon come up and play the drums and then leave.
phil labonte
Come up and sing the song.
And you'll come up and sing like a line or sing every other word.
tim pool
And we'll tell everybody what you got to do is you have to record it on your phone.
And then you get three phones together and play them at the same time to hear the song.
Actually, that does sound pretty fun.
shane cashman
That's actually kind of cool.
It's like cubism for music.
tim pool
That would be a fun show, though.
phil labonte
It might be a little too close to art to actual art for this to work for the intended thing.
josie glabach
There will be no distinction between beauty and ugliness.
There will be no curiosity, no enjoyment of life.
All competing pleasures shall be destroyed.
George Orwell, 1984.
phil labonte
Stop having fun.
Don't like things because, you know, if you like something, then that means that you've created a hierarchy.
And if you've created a hierarchy, well, then you're a fascist.
And so now you're Hitler.
josie glabach
Eat nothing and be happy.
tim pool
Okay, now I kind of want to.
phil labonte
You like chocolate?
Now you're Hitler.
tim pool
I bet these things use like some weird proprietary charging thing that it's got like 12 prongs going in random directions.
shane cashman
Yeah, it's like only European.
tim pool
Yeah, I've been to Europe.
Those things are weird.
unidentified
What?
phil labonte
Did you say they run under?
shane cashman
They're just on fire tonight.
tim pool
No, for the Jaguars, when you open it, it's got a male port, and then on the wall children, it's another male port.
phil labonte
How does this work?
You just got to rub them together like a stick.
shane cashman
I don't let you guys do those motions on camera.
phil labonte
You're trying to make fun.
tim pool
How do I charge my car?
It only has two female charging ports.
You got to get the car right up to the wall and just press it up against it.
All right, all right.
What are we talking about?
phil labonte
Getting a little risque there.
tim pool
Yeah, but anyway, back to, you know, family-friendly.
phil labonte
Ridiculous.
tim pool
I think we've got a cultural collapse based on population.
We've talked about before.
I think even among the existing population, no one likes anything.
You look at TikTok and Instagram trends and it's random chaos.
phil labonte
Do you think that that kind of attitude comes from the fact that on the internet, everyone's like kind of the first to criticize?
Do you think that contributes to it?
tim pool
I think the thing is that one of the problems we have is that on the internet, no one knows you're 14.
And so you've got 40-year-old men posting their political opinions about like this tax rate is too much.
And then some 13-year-old kid is like, you're wrong and just typing random things.
But for real, a lot of it is just kids are interacting with adults and adults think the kids are adults.
And so they're having conversations that are inane and go nowhere and counterproductive.
And everything becomes a hodgepodge of just silly messes.
Also consider this.
If you're a liberal and you're being followed by like 10,000 people and then you post something like, you know, schools need to be reformed and then 100 12 year olds say ban homework and you think those are adults, you will adopt the political values of 12 year olds.
And that's likely what's happening with the left.
shane cashman
Yeah.
josie glabach
That's a really good idea.
shane cashman
That's exactly what's happening with the left.
josie glabach
I may be guilty of behaving like a 13 year old on the internet sometimes.
phil labonte
That's what the internet's for.
shane cashman
It's a time machine.
tim pool
I mean, that's largely all I do.
But the thing is, like, I don't get influenced by 12-year-olds.
It's like, I understand that profile with no profile picture, that's just saying stupid, offensive things.
I'm like, yeah, I get it to your 12.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, I really don't care what you have to think.
shane cashman
Yeah, of course.
tim pool
But a lot of people live in that reality.
And then they end up, this is the crazy thing.
It's also, it's almost like how AI is becoming a feedback loop.
Adults talking to kids.
The kids don't know about culture or anything.
So they feed back static garbage to the adults and the adults adopt it from the kids.
This is actually crazy.
Adults are learning from kids in the internet because they don't know better.
And they're adopting the behaviors of kids who haven't yet fully formed their beliefs and their behaviors.
So it's just becoming.
shane cashman
And then there's a small pockets of that happening on the internet amongst the dead internet.
So it's just a bunch of nothing.
josie glabach
Yeah.
And they all think kids can consent to changing their gender and stuff anyway.
So might as well.
tim pool
Because it's 12-year-olds tweeting it.
josie glabach
Yeah.
So they might as well just take on the entire identity of a child that can't.
tim pool
It's like they're going to legalize drinking for children and they're going to be like, you know, look, I go on Twitter and everybody's saying kids should be allowed to drink.
It's just a bunch of 12-year-olds being like, I want beer.
shane cashman
Yeah.
That's why some of them on the left are saying they should vote too.
Remember they're trying to lower the vote.
tim pool
There's probably a bunch of 12-year-olds on X being like, I want to vote.
josie glabach
I want to vote.
That looks cool.
Yep.
tim pool
Yeah.
But I think the internet's already dead.
Yeah.
I think the overall, I've talked about how you can identify bots before, but I tweeted earlier.
I'm just going to start ignoring profiles without pictures because it's just, it's going to be a bot or it's going to be a 12, 14 year old.
shane cashman
You notice the new bots that understand your post and write like a sentence that's about your post, but then it turns into the spam.
Like they're evolving.
And there's a lot of them.
And it's like the Bitcoin bots.
The porn bots are gone.
And now it's the Bitcoin bots.
tim pool
Now it's, well, I think X should remove monetization.
shane cashman
100%.
Monetization ruined Twitter.
unidentified
It was a mistake because it created a They scaled monetization way back.
tim pool
They need to scale it back.
And the issue is to an extent, it's okay because the porn bots were first.
How can we make money on the platform?
And I think Elon was like, they're making money on the platform by doing porn because you can direct people to your porn.
And so by doing monetization, everyone started creating bots that comment and reply in a controversial way or to generate a conversation.
Now you get these spam posts where I'll say something like, I had pancakes for breakfast.
And then someone will reply with, that's an interesting thought.
Pancakes for breakfast.
You know, the other day I was eating waffles and it's like this long-winded blog and I'm like, what the?
shane cashman
Yeah.
And they tag someone for you to talk to, to consult with.
josie glabach
Oh, yes.
I get a lot of those.
shane cashman
Yeah, right?
tim pool
You know what I get a lot of that block instantly?
Someone responds with, that's crazy.
And then it's a quote tweet of a guy wearing a shirt and someone walks up to him with a phone and QR scans the shirt.
josie glabach
Yes, I see that everywhere.
tim pool
Insta block.
josie glabach
Yeah, I might have blocked like 25 accounts with that.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
Insta block.
shane cashman
Yeah.
Monetization was a bad idea.
It turned everyone into TMZ and like a lot of clickbaity stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane cashman
And then people using old videos, especially during times of war, and they're like, this is an explosion from yesterday, but we saw it five years ago.
tim pool
There was a really funny moment in like 2016 or 17 where everyone started posting videos of tanks and APCs being transported and military helicopters.
And they were like, whoa, what's happening?
And they created a trend.
phil labonte
Jade helm.
tim pool
And people, is that what it was called?
phil labonte
There was a lot of people talking about an Operation Jade.
tim pool
And all that was really happening was everybody was in on the troll where you'd find a random video of military movement or police movement and then post it and claim it was happening right then.
And then a trend happened where people thought the U.S. government was doing something.
shane cashman
Just this weekend, the whole Trump talking about UFOs thing was going viral, but that was over a year ago.
Yeah.
So everyone was thinking like, did you see this?
This is happening now.
He's talking about Nordics and they're talking about Rhett Burleson, right, and all this stuff.
All that stuff is old, but everyone was thinking it was new.
tim pool
Yep.
Wait till AI, man.
AI is already just so nuts.
phil labonte
Yeah.
shane cashman
It's bad.
tim pool
I've been AI generating fake video games and using VO.
I've been saying this.
We're like, what, a couple years out from like, I feel bad for Rockstar for making GTA because they spent like, was it like $2 billion to make GTA 6 some ridiculous amount?
And we're a couple years out from being able to just go to an LLM and be like, take the code of GTA and make a new version and it'll do it.
So right now, Gemini and I think, was it Claude?
Claude, they can already make like Atari games.
They haven't made Mario.
A little complicated to make Mario, but they can make Atari games.
So I think we're six months to a year away from you being able to tell this, make me a two-dimensional platformer where a character punches bricks and then it'll make you a game just like Mario.
It'll have better hitbox detection and controls than most mobile apps.
And then we're probably a year or two away from you being able to be like, take the game structure of Baldur's Gate 3 and make an entirely new game with new characters and new story.
And it'll just do it.
shane cashman
Will that just destroy the video game market?
tim pool
It'll destroy literally every market because once we get to that point, movies are already gone.
It's harder to make a game than a movie.
And we're already, I'll say it again, VO from Gemini can already make high quality video.
That's insane.
It gets it wrong a lot.
I guarantee you internally at Google, they've already had it make movies.
If a consumer can make, what is it, four or five, eight second videos per day for 20 bucks a month or something, the company itself with all its computer, they're probably telling it, make me a Spider-Man movie.
And it is.
And it's probably better.
Their version is probably, so here's the thing.
The version we get, they've probably had for two years because they have to test it to make sure it's not going to do really messed up stuff, like show snuff films or something.
What they have probably shows really nasty things.
So they don't release it to the public yet.
They're still testing it.
But I bet you Google has already said, make a movie, and then within like two days, it renders a full two-hour long horror film or something.
josie glabach
If you're telling me that AI could put Hollywood out of business and we won't have to deal with A-list actresses anymore and actors, I'm not against it.
tim pool
So what has our economy turned into?
shane cashman
AI influencers.
We've already got people signing AI musicians.
josie glabach
Yeah, they have AI girls on OnlyFans.
tim pool
The top live streams are all these VTubers.
It's just AI.
It's automatically animated characters.
And then when you talk, the character does everything.
A filter.
And people just watch anime waifus play video games.
shane cashman
I wonder how long that will last.
Do you think that will sustain itself?
Or are people going to be rejecting that eventually?
Say, I want to go back to...
tim pool
I think humans are being converted for the singularity.
And I don't mean that as a joke or to be facetious.
It's literally lowering IQ, lowering cognitive ability and general capability.
So what's going to happen is we all thought it was going to be like idiocracy, where everyone's sitting there like, oh, I'm all balls and they're really dumb.
Nope.
I was saying a few years ago, your job is like, you're going to have an app and it's going to be called like, you know, job app.
And it's going to be like, meet this man and take this device to Fifth Street, where you'll meet this man, give him the device.
And you'll be like, what do I get?
And I'll say 50 bucks.
You'll hit accept.
You'll walk and that guy will walk up and have some weird mechanical box and you'll be like, thanks.
Then you'll walk to another location and some guy will walk up and go, you want my box?
Here you go.
And then your phone will go, and it's, and you're not going to know because the AI or the people running that app, you don't need to know what you're doing.
They just need to get that object from point A to point B in the fastest way possible.
And that's some guy bring it to some other guy instead of waiting for a courier, getting a tax service or whatever.
I was wrong about that.
Here's what I think is going to happen.
Humans are going to have an IQ that would be comparable to around 70.
And they're going to be real dumb.
And I bet it's worse than I'm even predicting right now.
They're not going to talk all that much.
They're going to be like, ha ha, ha.
And their phones are going to tell them what to do.
phil labonte
All I can think is like, go away, Baiton.
tim pool
Yep.
But here's the thing.
The problem with idiocracy was that the systems were falling apart.
That won't happen.
The AI isn't intentionally making people dumb, but people are being made dumb by AI doing everything for them.
So they will maintain a level of being able to do rudimentary tasks, like picking things up and placing them in places.
That will maintain the AI system, and then they will do work, and the AI becomes the multicellular organism system, the next evolution of life, from a single cell to a multi-cell to a multi-organism system itself.
The machine will be sustained, and each individual person will be like a single cell in a multicellular organism, doing one task all day, every day until they die without deviating or thinking of anything else.
And if anybody does deviate, what do we call that?
Cancer.
josie glabach
Fascism.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
Cancer.
josie glabach
Cancer.
tim pool
In the human body, when cells deviate from their designated task and start doing whatever they want, like tumors will grow teeth and hair and it's random, cancer.
And then you die or your body destroys it.
And I think that's what this society is turning into.
Everyone will be real stupid.
Like if you look at it, it's fascinating.
Single-celled organisms eat and reproduce, they have full lives.
It's simple for a single-celled organism.
Red blood cells don't do that.
They are made, they carry, they die.
They are made somewhere else.
And that's what we're going to have.
There are going to be people who are born, but never have children, and then just die.
shane cashman
It's happening now already.
unidentified
Yep.
phil labonte
Oh, yeah.
shane cashman
That's my problem with a lot of AI.
tim pool
AI is going to run these people.
shane cashman
Yeah.
A lot of these AI people, like Sam Altman, keep saying this is going to make everyone's lives better.
But I'm like, we already have all this technology at our disposal.
And a lot of kids can't even read anymore.
So why do you think all of a sudden giving us AI is going to make us any smarter?
tim pool
There was one study that found that high school kids who were using ChatGPT could not remember after like 10 or 15 minutes what they had written into ChatGPT or what it had told them.
unidentified
Wow.
phil labonte
Yeah, I heard the bid today.
tim pool
Because they're not thinking about it.
It's like when your parents say, I take out the trash, you don't remember.
You're just like, oh, yeah, I did that.
Like, what did you have for breakfast yesterday?
You know, it's like, oh, what did I have for breakfast yesterday?
Sometimes it's like, I don't know.
It's a routine thing I don't care about.
josie glabach
Yeah, I think there's, it also might be linked to like how, how you learn, how humans were meant to learn.
And chat GTP is telling them, giving them an order, and then they, they do the order.
So it's like copy, paste.
I mean, I take paper notes.
You take paper notes.
This is how I learn.
This is how I absorb information.
And I think a lot of humans are meant to learn that way.
So we've evolved to learn that way.
So I don't foresee us evolving to learn through chat DVP.
shane cashman
Kids are asking it serious questions about history or law, and it could hallucinate something totally bogus.
But they don't know it's bogus because they don't know to look any further into it.
And then they're remembering now a false reality, and that would just accelerate the total deterioration of the children.
josie glabach
And then on top of that, there's the ego that goes with that, too.
Like, no, I can't be wrong.
tim pool
Did you hear about the people who are being committed?
shane cashman
Oh, yeah, I saw the one guy.
There was another guy a few weeks ago who took his life because he fell in love with the AI.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim pool
There was a story where a guy was a normal, mild-mannered, middle-aged guy, started using ChatGPT for assistance with, I forgot what it was.
He was doing some hobby and then started using it and then got wrapped into it and then started, he came to believe because of what GPT was saying to him, that someone was trying to kill his wife and their child.
And he was on his knees crying and begging his wife to believe him that the AI was warning them.
And so they ended up, she and like another guy went out to get money and they planned like, we're going to have to get him help.
And when they came back, he was trying to kill himself.
shane cashman
Oh, my goodness.
tim pool
So then they had him 5150.
shane cashman
What was the AI company that had just a bunch of Indians working behind the scenes?
tim pool
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It was not even real.
shane cashman
I'm worried about that, too.
How many AIs is that?
tim pool
A lot.
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unidentified
Shout out.
tim pool
But let's grab your super chats.
Velesco, Valseco, sorry, says, can I ask a legit question about the AI 10-year?
What is that?
Early on, I heard the reason is they don't want to state, what is that?
The AI 10-year?
josie glabach
Oh, that.
shane cashman
From the big, beautiful bill.
You can't get the regulations on it.
tim pool
They don't want to state like California.
It's had a standard either.
No other state can meet or be held back, like admissions.
josie glabach
Interesting.
tim pool
Maybe.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Bill Dojo says, the word you wanted was apathetic.
That's a good one.
josie glabach
Good job.
tim pool
Let's see.
Amba Laban says, we're in Brooklyn.
In 22 to 23, Moms Medicare was fraudulently billed for unsolicited at-home COVID tests ordered by Illinois and Texas-based providers cluttering our mailbox until I report it to Medicare.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I bet there's way more than they even caught.
phil labonte
Yeah, way more.
tim pool
Sheergall says real capitalism hasn't been tried yet.
There's always been government interference in the markets.
Wrong.
In 1800s in the West, there was, to an extent, certainly government interference, but nobody could enforce anything.
And that's why Hollywood became the movie capital.
josie glabach
Wild West.
tim pool
Yep, the Wild West.
They were like, we don't want to pay taxes.
Do something about it.
shane cashman
Tim, I'm going to head out to my show now.
tim pool
All right.
Where's that at?
shane cashman
We are at Rumble and YouTube.
10 o'clock to midnight.
Phone lines are open.
Inverted World Live.
I want to give a shout out to Gibb Straw on Twitter for making the AOC crying at Alligator Alcatraz.
It's a good one.
But I'll see you all later.
It was a pleasure.
tim pool
Inverted World tells from the Inverted World.
Anyone can call in.
shane cashman
That's right.
phil labonte
Call in and ask them about the clouds.
shane cashman
Yeah, for real quick, just to get into it, I won't be here for the after show, but fake clouds do make real lightning.
phil labonte
Fake clouds make real lightning.
What are the vintage clouds?
shane cashman
Fake vintage clouds make real lightning.
Yeah, hologram clouds make hologram lightning.
And then there's the interdimensional clouds, but we'll get into another picture.
Thank you, guys.
It was a fun one.
See you, Josie.
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Good job.
unidentified
Do the best.
phil labonte
See you, bud.
tim pool
All right, let's go.
I identify as tax exempt says the means of production is the mind.
Agreed.
josie glabach
Very, yeah.
That's what property rights are.
It comes down to your beliefs, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Skyline 99 says when Burma was taken over by communists, aka socialists in 65, they even seized sewing machines from families who can afford one.
phil labonte
Unreal.
Unreal.
josie glabach
Took everything.
tim pool
Cezi Watson says, I'm late, but wanted to join the baby chats.
My beautiful girl was born nine days ago.
Tim, give some of your best tips, tricks, and or suggestions.
It's a lot, but totally worth it.
Have babies.
Tips and tricks for babies?
I mean, my baby's only four months.
Actually, yeah, she's just four months and a week now.
So I don't got much to add to that.
Josie's got a bunch of kids.
josie glabach
Yeah, I've got three daughters, 16, almost 15, and 10.
And the best advice I can give you is to let them be kids.
Let them be kids as long as you can.
Take in every moment that you can.
It goes really fast.
And I know a lot of people say that, but you start to lose the memories.
Just hold on to everything that you can as hard as you can.
tim pool
Oh, there you go.
unidentified
Awesome.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
Omega Resetsu says, progressive tax.
Evidence of taxation is theft.
If I told you to give me money, and if you didn't, I'd draw a gun on you and you further refuse, only for me to lock you up, then I am robbing you.
I disagree with that assessment, despite the fact that I hate getting taxed the more that I work.
There's two ways.
There's a couple other arguments that can be made.
If I was providing you a service and said your bill is due and you said, I'm not paying that, I don't want to.
And then you refuse to, I should have legal recourse to get the money that I'm owed.
That being said, the argument is then I never agreed to enter into this subscription service.
Well, therein lies the challenge of being born into a system.
That's just it.
You get privileges and benefits from being in the United States.
So I don't think all taxes are wrong.
I just think that we have a corrupt system and any system, government, will tend towards corruption over a period of time.
I certainly don't think the first taxes they had with tariffs and all that in the early days, people were like, it's wrong.
No.
No, they recognized some taxes were okay.
You want to have a government.
You want to have a standing army.
You know?
We're just in a corrupt system.
And all of these systems will always tend towards corruption.
unidentified
So.
tim pool
All right.
What do we got here?
josie glabach
Yeah, what you explained was minarchy, and that's what our founders had in mind when they wrote the Constitution.
tim pool
Same old man says, Tim, that is a Bud Light car.
unidentified
Yep.
phil labonte
Fair enough.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
All right.
unidentified
What else we got going on over here?
tim pool
We got Millennial Mama.
Did you guys see the part of the dissent where Ms. Jackson referenced Martians?
No longer surprised she doesn't know what a woman is.
Is that for real?
phil labonte
I don't think I saw the dissent.
josie glabach
Oh, I didn't read through it's Katanji's dissent.
I'm going to have to scan it for that word Martians.
phil labonte
I thought you're talking about the movie.
josie glabach
Oh, no, then that was definitely AI.
tim pool
Well, so I did some checking into it because the argument was that it was AI.
And I don't want to say it was conclusive, but ChatGPT did tell me, I tweeted it.
It said that based on things like wait for it.
She actually wrote that.
josie glabach
I didn't see that.
tim pool
You saw that she wrote wait for it.
josie glabach
I saw that.
unidentified
What?
tim pool
Who is she talking to?
Is she writing like a feminist blog?
josie glabach
Exactly.
tim pool
But it said, because of things like that, it looked like it was AI generated as AI can't make strong academic and legal arguments.
It tends to default into the, what did it describe it as?
It said something like lacking substance, but trying to look energized.
Like it can't offer up strong academic points because it can only replicate.
So it gives you sensationalism.
josie glabach
Full stop.
tim pool
Yeah, full stop is the two.
Here we go.
Jackson wrote, a Martian arriving here from another planet would see these circumstances and surely wonder, what good is the Constitution then?
Okay, I think it's AI.
I think it was AI.
unidentified
Wow.
tim pool
I think it was AI.
I didn't even know about the Martian thing.
josie glabach
This is going into the history of our country.
tim pool
So I used, I Google searched AI plagiarism checker.
And then it was like, was this written by not plagiarism?
I'm sorry, it was an AI text checker.
Was this written by AI?
And I tweeted this.
It said 80% likely it was written by an AI.
And then it rewrites it, trying to remove things that are indicative of AI.
So basically it was a service for people who are trying to use AI in schools.
So AI checkers can't detect it.
And it detected this.
What I think is possible, don't know for sure, is that Jackson has her clerks, says, here's the argument.
They work on it.
She asks the clerks, start writing it up.
And the clerks are like, I'll just go to ChatGPT and have it make blocks.
I would not be surprised if they were like paragraph by paragraph, going to GPT and say, write a succinct paragraph about this idea.
Like the general idea is this.
Write a longer paragraph and make it sound academic.
Enter.
And then it writes and they go, okay, that looks good.
And they put it in.
I think they used AI for this.
phil labonte
I do.
tim pool
A Martian arriving in front of another planet.
Why is the Supreme Court justice saying that silly nonsense?
They could literally just say an outside observer to this nation would wonder what is the purpose of a constitution.
josie glabach
It's really – Amy Coney Barrett's her opinion, the way that she criticized KBJ in that, it just shows that there is contempt for her at this point, that she could openly do that.
phil labonte
Yeah.
I was actually talking to my lawyer today and we were making jokes about this, but the fact that she articulated the way that she did, or maybe it was AI or whatever, it's probably unprecedented to have the Supreme Court kind of go after and excoriate a justice in the way they did.
I'm unaware of any and any precedent.
And wow, my lawyer wasn't aware of any of that.
josie glabach
It doesn't happen like that.
That's what made it so alarming.
And she's like, you know, with annoying legalese or however she worded it, to really stick it to her.
It was crazy.
phil labonte
What?
serge du preez
The long dash, what does it for me?
You see a long dash underneath?
tim pool
No, no.
The M dashes, Amy Coney Barrett has that, has M. M-dashes appear all throughout it.
So when people first said M dashes are indicative, the first thing I checked was what Amy Coney Barrett wrote.
And I'm like, if they both use M dashes, I'm not going to use that as like anything like that.
And literally, if we take the M dash.
josie glabach
Amy Coney Barrett's brilliant.
I believe she has a photographic memory.
If you remember her confirmation, her hearing, she was just, she had notes and it's a blank piece of paper and she holds it up, a blank piece of paper.
God, somebody's going to meme that later.
But it was empty and she was given notes to write as she went and she was referencing all these cases right from her mind.
It was very brilliant.
I don't know if Katanja could do that.
tim pool
What I have right here is literally just the majority opinion written by Coney Barrett.
There's M dashes all over it.
So they do tend to be indicative of AI, but she does use quite a bit.
serge du preez
Maybe not in this kind of document.
That makes sense.
tim pool
Yeah.
So this is the opinion of the court, 96, blah, blah, blah.
serge du preez
But when you see like a Twitter post within it, you can see.
tim pool
Yeah.
Yep.
Because AI doesn't differentiate between text written by humans for human purposes and academic legal stuff.
And I think the M dashes begin to appear.
Like Simone, what was her name?
The Biles?
Biles.
phil labonte
Yeah.
tim pool
Like her apology or whatever.
josie glabach
Oh, that was AI.
phil labonte
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim pool
Everybody thinks that's AI.
Because it's like, why did you put an M dash in that?
josie glabach
Yep.
tim pool
PR firm, AI generated an apology and then posted it.
And everyone's like, dude, that Martians thing, I am 100% convinced it's AI.
josie glabach
Yep.
phil labonte
Wow.
josie glabach
That wonders how she got as far as she did in her career, if she knows they're using AI, if she chooses to use AI.
I mean, is it like that Harvard, the president of Harvard who had plagiarized her?
I mean, it's reminding me of that.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's it's like I said, it's unprecedented.
And to see the kind of ridiculous takes that she had on display, it doesn't bode well for the court.
I was I was under the, or again, like I said, I was talking to my lawyer today and he was kind of of the opinion that she's essentially going to be sidelined as a as a justice for the next decade or so, or maybe she'll get pressured to step down.
But they're not going to take anything that she says, you know, seriously.
You can't have that kind, not only that kind of dissent, but also the fact that she has been so verbose and said so little.
josie glabach
Yes.
It's like people that talk to sound smart, they just say a bunch of words and say nothing.
phil labonte
You reminded me of the old in living color, the guy that was, the Damian Waynes guy that was, or was Keen, I don't know, one of the Wayne's brothers was the guy in jail that just used big words, the criminal guy.
I forget his name, though.
Anyways.
josie glabach
No, I hope that you're onto something.
phil labonte
But she's ridiculous.
And it's good that the court excoriated her the way they did.
It's good that they pointed out how ridiculous the thing that she was saying are and put it on display so that the American people can actually say, all right, we were right when we thought she was dumb when she said she couldn't identify what a woman was.
josie glabach
Remember when they did the bar graph of how much words each justice did?
phil labonte
I got it saved in my phone.
josie glabach
Yeah, and she had like 11,600 or something like that.
And like Justice Clarence Thomas had like 90.
tim pool
Yeah.
She just doesn't sit in there, doesn't say anything.
phil labonte
Words spoken, she's spoken a total of 23,912.
Oh, I'm sorry.
The female justices have spoken a total of 23,912.
Kajenthi Brown Jackson spoke 11,003 herself.
The male justices have spoken a total of 9,490.
josie glabach
She spoke more than any, like the six male justices.
That's incredible.
phil labonte
And then Clarence Thomas himself has spoken 96.
unidentified
Yes, though.
tim pool
Wait, wait, 96 this year.
phil labonte
Words.
josie glabach
When was that?
phil labonte
The first eight arguments.
josie glabach
Yes.
tim pool
96.
josie glabach
Man of little words, but he packs a punch.
tim pool
He's got to retire.
He and Alito got to retire.
josie glabach
They do, and they got to let Trump replace them.
phil labonte
Y'all got to work on a clone.
tim pool
And they got to do it before the midterms.
unidentified
Yep.
phil labonte
Yep.
tim pool
Otherwise, they're not going to get any confirmations through him.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
josie glabach
You're right.
tim pool
Yeah.
Man.
unidentified
How old is Alito now?
tim pool
Is he the oldest?
74.
phil labonte
70-something.
tim pool
75.
unidentified
And Clarence is late 70s, I think.
josie glabach
Late 70s, okay.
tim pool
Or mid early 70s, I think.
unidentified
Okay.
josie glabach
I couldn't remember which one of them was older.
tim pool
Man.
unidentified
I love it.
phil labonte
That's a shame.
He's 75.
Sam Alito is 75.
He was born in 1950.
tim pool
And Thomas?
Can we just invent immortality for these guys?
josie glabach
Yeah, I like that.
phil labonte
Ernst Thomas is...
He was born in 48, so he's 77.
77.
josie glabach
Wow.
tim pool
They got to retire.
And they got to do it now.
josie glabach
Alito, I feel like, could die on the bench like Ruth Vader Ginsburg.
I could see just as Clarence Thomas.
tim pool
They better not hold on.
They are the best we've got.
They're the only ones that ever want to do their jobs.
I respect them tremendously.
And their job right now is finding that successor and hoping that Trump chooses the right one.
josie glabach
If they can help with choosing that successor, that would be the best because they'd find somebody that's just like them.
phil labonte
Absolutely.
tim pool
All right.
Approve of at least Raymond G. Stanley Jr. says tomorrow is mega month.
Let's go.
Barbecues, burgers, and beers.
We celebrate the founding fathers, our great nation, and why it's important not to lose it.
We are putting up a gigantic American flag in the boonies in the skate park.
josie glabach
You are?
tim pool
Yeah, I think it's like 30 feet or something.
It's huge.
phil labonte
Tomorrow is when you change your ex profile picture to something with you and the American flag.
So that's right.
josie glabach
I feel bad.
I didn't get to talk about really any American history today.
So let me just say that the founding fathers were terrified that Ben Franklin would put a joke into the Declaration of Independence.
So when it came down to choosing who was going to write the Declaration of Independence, it was John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, or Ben Franklin.
Adams got behind Jefferson and really pushed for that.
He put all of his weight behind Jefferson.
So Jefferson got it.
And as far as we know, there is no joke into the Declaration of Independence.
And something that Ben Franklin did add to the Declaration of Independence is Thomas Jefferson had written, we hold these truths to be sacred and undeniable.
And Ben Franklin said, no, we hold these truths to be self-evident.
That way, it wouldn't be, your rights would be natural and they wouldn't be divinely sanctioned.
phil labonte
Yep.
josie glabach
They are a little history for everybody.
phil labonte
There you go.
josie glabach
For the fourth.
tim pool
So yeah, of course, tomorrow, all the profile pictures, everyone's got a post.
You got to change.
You got to put the American flag.
So every company's got to do it.
Every company.
We have to, we got to get on that.
Make sure everybody here changes profile, you know?
So what's funny is all the pride flags are being removed.
The corporations aren't changing their profiles to pride flags anymore.
And we are going to put up our American flags because that's called winning.
phil labonte
Yep.
josie glabach
Absolutely.
tim pool
America.
phil labonte
The way that it should be.
josie glabach
Yes.
tim pool
Mega month.
phil labonte
I mean, there's nothing wrong with celebrating the United States of America.
It is the greatest country that has ever existed.
tim pool
Ever.
josie glabach
Oh, hands down.
phil labonte
Hands down.
josie glabach
It's the American experiment is what they had called it.
And they all believed in it so much.
tim pool
All right.
Chimachungis says Indian food is meant to be eaten with your hands.
I learned that from Zohran Mamdani.
He was shovel it in his face with his hands.
And I was like, okay.
phil labonte
There's a lot of Indian food that I can't imagine eating with my hands.
How are you going to, you know, like, you know what's funny?
tim pool
I noticed this.
When I go to like an Asian restaurant and there are Asian people there, they ain't using chopsticks.
They're using forks.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
It's all the American white people that are using chopsticks.
unidentified
Yeah.
josie glabach
They all want to feel fancy.
I did see Dinesh D'Souza's daughter.
Somebody was saying that she eats rice with her hands and she quote tweeted it and was like, actually, I was born in the United States and I've eaten rice with a fork my whole life.
tim pool
I eat rice with chopsticks.
josie glabach
I don't know how.
tim pool
It's my left hand.
josie glabach
Interesting.
unidentified
I'm fascinated by that.
josie glabach
I can't.
I don't know how to move chopsticks at all.
phil labonte
I can use chopsticks pretty well for a round eye.
tim pool
When you're part Asian, you don't have to learn.
You can just do it.
josie glabach
You just naturally have that.
tim pool
It's genetically ingrained.
Both hands, actually.
josie glabach
Oh, that's true.
tim pool
It's not true.
I could pick up a glass of water with chopsticks.
phil labonte
Really?
tim pool
Yeah.
josie glabach
That's impressive.
tim pool
I don't know.
phil labonte
I definitely cannot do that.
josie glabach
I don't know.
I'm a redhead, so I'm black.
tim pool
Actually, let's play a guitar thing.
Left-handed.
phil labonte
All right.
tim pool
Yeah.
I think I can use chopsticks with my left hand because I play guitar.
phil labonte
Okay.
tim pool
Like, yeah, my.
Isn't that kind of wild?
You're right-handed, so you strum with your right, but you do all the crazy, dexterous movements with your left.
phil labonte
Our guitar player, Mike, he's a left-handed guy.
He writes with his left hand, but he plays guitar right-handed.
Which is smart because honestly, like, look, you're going to pay an extra 10 or 15, 20% for a left-handed guitar for your entire life.
It's a waste of time to get up.
unidentified
You know what?
phil labonte
Just play writing.
tim pool
You know what I realized?
There's no such thing as a left-handed video game controller.
phil labonte
Nope.
tim pool
Whenever we play, the action buttons are your right-hand and your directional is usually your left.
Now there's another joystick on most consoles that, you know, so you have two joysticks like PlayStation for both thumbs.
But that means people who are left-handed are like using a controller configured for right-handed people.
josie glabach
Interesting.
tim pool
Yeah, that's weird.
josie glabach
I'm ambidextrous, and I had read that that means you use...
I can paint with both hands.
No, I paint.
I painted bocus.
phil labonte
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
josie glabach
I painted bocus with both my hands.
So, yeah, I can paint with both hands.
I can write with both hands.
I eat with both hands.
I actually play all sports lefty, but yeah, it's very interesting, and it's because it's using both sides of your brain.
tim pool
I additionally am ambidextrous, but I can't write with my left.
I also can't write with my right.
josie glabach
Yeah, I can, but it's not as good.
But painting, I can do perfectly with either.
tim pool
If I wrote with my left, you'd be like, that looks terrible.
And if I wrote with my right, you'd be like, that also looks terrible.
So I can technically write with both, but I wouldn't call it writing.
But no, interestingly, there's a lot of things I do with my left hand.
So like this fingerboard, for instance, it's my left hand.
And it's a stupid thing to be good at, but I am.
And I don't know.
It's a bunch of weird things.
Like I do use chops with my left.
Let's grab one more of these here, Super Chats.
And then we'll...
This is jumping on me.
Dash 1-2 says, look at Quebec.
53.31% income tax.
I am not interested.
unidentified
Gross.
josie glabach
That is foul.
tim pool
Nope.
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josie glabach
Yes, you can find me on X at T-R-H-L Official.
I have some cool shows coming up this month.
I have scheduled Anomaly next Monday, and the following Sunday, I have Jimmy Dore.
So hopefully those play out.
But yeah, you can check me out there.
And I have this coffee and it's through Cass Brew and it's 1776 signature blend.
And you should definitely go there and try it.
tim pool
It's got a creamy flavor.
unidentified
It does.
josie glabach
It has like a creamy flavor.
It's like it's sort of based off Boston cream, I guess.
It's a play on that.
So it's got notes of vanilla and notes of chocolate.
phil labonte
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Our new record is entitled Anti-Fragile.
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Don't forget the left lane is for crime.
tim pool
We will see you all at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.
Thanks for hanging out.
unidentified
Bye.
tim pool
you You know, I want to talk about this guy, Brian Koberger.
I don't know shit about it, though.
phil labonte
So he's pleading guilty.
He's a criminal.
He was going to school for criminal justice.
And essentially, he thought, I can get away with murdering a bunch of people.
And the retard brought his goddamn phone with him when he killed three people.
I'm sorry, four people.
Yeah.
tim pool
So is that what it was?
He thought because he studied criminal justice, he knew how to get away with it.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
What a fucking idiot.
phil labonte
He was, and he only today decided that he was going to take a plea.
When they first arrested him, he was like, I didn't do it.
Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And essentially, he thought that, or the detectives, the state thought that the situation was, he thought he was going to outsmart the cops.
And they started showing all the evidence.
And he's just like, no.
And now he's trying to.
tim pool
They told him, you're going to get the death penalty unless you plead.
You know, the crazy thing is it's really easy to get away with murder.
unidentified
Yeah.
phil labonte
Yeah.
Most murders go unsolved.
tim pool
Premeditated.
Most murders that are caught are passion murders.
You know, a guy walks in on his wife and then shoots a guy or something.
Premeditated murders are rarely solved.
The rate's like 40%.
I think it's less than that, actually.
I think it's way less.
But I don't know.
In Illinois, I can say 20 years ago in Illinois, it was much lower.
Maybe it's improved.
But the issue is actually quite simple.
If you actually plan it out, what are the cops going to do?
It's fascinating.
People think it's CSI Miami, you know?
They're like, my car's been stolen.
unidentified
Come.
tim pool
And they show up and they go, okay, what color was the car?
unidentified
All right.
tim pool
Thank you.
We'll buy.
And then they go, aren't you going to do an investigation?
Like, we are.
Aren't you going to fingerprint?
For what?
Well, maybe some, fingerprints, like, dude, there's going to be 800,000 fingerprint smudges everywhere.
We're not going to go check all of them.
You're nuts.
They don't do that.
So this guy's an idiot.
unidentified
Yeah.
josie glabach
He probably had some sort of narcissism, like, you know, no one's grandiose kind of idea about this.
The story reminded me of Ted Bundy's final killing or one of his final killings with the sorority house.
Just the way that it played out.
And I can't even look at the guy.
Like, I was saying before I knew what he did, I saw just his mug shot pop up before any of the story really broke.
And I caught the guy.
And I looked at him and I'm like, guilty.
Like, he just, I can't even look at him.
He makes my skin curl.
tim pool
I told this story before.
And it's probably a stupid story to tell, but I'm not like Ian where Ian's like, if you say it, then you're making all the problems.
Like, dude, things exist and things happen.
I'm not taking responsibility for telling stories, but Ian's wacky.
The story is there was a guy in Illinois that he murdered a bunch of people by bringing him out to a bar, buying him a bunch of drinks, walking out of the bar to the river, Des Plains River, and then just pushing them right in.
And then calling 911 and saying, help, my friend is drowning.
unidentified
Jesus.
tim pool
He would then jump in and drown them, make sure they died.
But when people ran up, he would be saving them, screaming, help me, help me, please.
And then he got caught apparently because eventually some cop was like, this local hero has saved a lot of people from drowning or tried to.
Oh, wow.
Like, this local hero, it was like apparently the story that I was told was that a sheriff was reading the paper and read the guy, local hero tries to save man who drowns.
And he was like, wait a minute, that's the guy from my town that tried saving somebody who was drowning.
That's a different name.
And then looked into it.
And apparently the guy had like seven times tried saving people and then they ended up finding it out.
josie glabach
This is feminine behavior.
This is the Florence Nightingale syndrome or the angel of death, what some nurses have done in the past.
Very few, of course, but they would do something to kill a patient or kill a baby.
Oh, yeah.
And then they would bring it back to life and then they'd be a hero.
But it didn't always work and it was always the same nurses and they caught on to it.
But yeah, completely alarming behavior.
phil labonte
I can't imagine killing a baby.
josie glabach
Yeah, you got to be a demon to do that.
phil labonte
I mean, you know, my girlfriend's pregnant, so it's like.
josie glabach
Oh, yeah.
It's something in your brain flips when that happens for sure.
Cause I know people who've been like, I mean, I've never been for abortion, but I know people who have.
And then the minute they get pregnant or the minute their wife gets pregnant or the minute they see the baby, they're like, nope.
No more.
serge du preez
It happened to a hardcore left.
tim pool
Oh, dude, there was a serial killer named Gilbert Paul, the boozing barber.
He would get women really drunk.
And then once they were blackout drunk, he would hold up in their mouths and pour booze in until they died of alcohol poisoning.
josie glabach
Why'd they give him such a cool name?
tim pool
The boozing barber?
I guess he was a barber.
Crazy.
josie glabach
It makes him redeemable if he has a cool name.
unidentified
He's got to have an awful name.
phil labonte
It's redeemable if he has a cool name.
I don't know about that, man.
tim pool
Serial killers should all be given really goofy-ass names that are embarrassing.
josie glabach
Bad names, like, yeah, something, you know, like small dick barber.
See?
phil labonte
Women would still watch their stories and love them.
tim pool
Yeah.
phil labonte
That's all my girlfriend watches is murder stuff.
josie glabach
I don't know what's wrong with us.
unidentified
We don't love murderous stuff.
josie glabach
I was actually in a murder documentary.
Did you know this?
phil labonte
Really?
Oh, I saw it.
You put the clip up.
unidentified
Yes.
tim pool
What was it?
josie glabach
It was ID Discovery Documentary.
I played John DuPont's wife, Gail.
was temporarily married to her.
And in the clip, he holds...
So in the clip, one of the clips, he holds a gun up to my head and he says, you know what they do to Russian spies?
And I'm like, I am shocked that that hasn't gone viral yet.
tim pool
Somebody asked, what if it was Baby Hitler?
josie glabach
Nobody's going to, I think you're going to be looking in Baby Hitler's eyes and be like, you know, maybe, maybe he's going to change.
phil labonte
I can fix it.
josie glabach
Butterfly effect.
Maybe I did something now.
tim pool
I can't believe anybody would ever entertain killing baby Hitler.
You know what I'd do?
Take Baby Hitler.
josie glabach
Oh, and raise Baby Hitler yourself.
Or put him in a German school.
Put him into art school.
tim pool
I don't think that I think if you took baby Hitler and literally just, if you could go back in time to Germany, I'm assuming you could teleport.
Okay.
So just take baby Hitler and then either, however, if you, whether you teleport or not, just bring him somewhere else.
And he'll be born in Ohio.
He'll be born in Germany and just found in Ohio in an orphanage.
josie glabach
Keep him away from drugs.
He just needs to not attack all the cocaine and all the meth.
You can watch videos of him and he is shaking.
He is buzzing.
tim pool
There's that funny video where child Hitler gets attacked by a Jewish guy.
A Jewish guy goes back in time to kill baby Hitler, but then he gets stopped.
Then he tries again a few years, like he goes back to the future and then goes back in time again when Hitler's a child and fails.
Then when he's a teenager and fails, and then when Hitler is like a young adult and fails, and then the last time he's like, when Hitler's now an adult man fails, and then Hitler just goes, why do these Jews keep trying to kill me?
And that's the joke is that's what made him.
josie glabach
I've only seen one story on that and it's really anti-Semitic, so I won't share it.
tim pool
All right, let's go to collars.
We got Attorney Meme General Shane H. Wilder.
What is going on?
phil labonte
Hello, Shane.
unidentified
What up, guys?
phil labonte
How's it going?
Going well.
unidentified
All right, I'm going to get straight into it.
Zoran discussed taxing wealthier, whiter neighborhoods in NYC and advocated for government-run grocery stores.
If we take both of these together, it will run out all the businesses out of town.
They can't afford to compete with the government store, and they can't afford taxes to stay open.
Do we think the quote-unquote wealthy white business owners are going to still vote for him against their own interests, or will they vote for someone else?
josie glabach
Do you know why?
tim pool
Well, I think he's going to win.
josie glabach
Yeah.
tim pool
Especially now.
josie glabach
I think he will.
Do you know why we had the Boston tea party?
A lot of people are like, well, it's because of the taxes.
tim pool
No, it was because, you know, they were getting off work, and the boys got together and they were like, bro, let's have a party and drink lots of tea.
josie glabach
Perfect.
That's exactly what happened to him.
tim pool
And then they all celebrated and they danced.
And the British regulars came and said, we've been convinced it's a party.
And they started dancing, even though dancing was forbidden.
josie glabach
Yep.
Now, what really happened is, so King George was in bed with the East India Company, and he'd made all these deals with him.
And they were saying, okay, well, you don't have to pay any taxes and we're going to reimburse all of your lost product and you'll be able to undercut all of the smugglers.
So primarily John Adams or sorry, Sam Adams and John Hancock.
Also, Parliament had invested whatever the equivalent of stock was then.
They'd invested everything into this company.
So there was a lot of fascism essentially happening there.
So they were really protesting the cronyism and the corporatism that was going on.
And that's why they dumped all the tea.
And that's why Boston Harbor got closed and that was never reopened again until they won the war.
phil labonte
Look at that.
tim pool
And then they were like, what was it?
The Intolerable Acts?
josie glabach
Yes.
So they were punished with the Intolerable Acts after that, which closed Boston Harbor.
It also pretty much...
They installed a governor and they got rid of the judges and they made Massachusetts essentially little Britain, like completely overruled by Christian.
tim pool
And then they said, give us your guns.
unidentified
Yeah.
josie glabach
And they, yep.
So Lexington and Concord happened because they were trying to confiscate the guns, but the spies got word of it and they were able to blow that up and, you know, then kill them all on Battle Road.
tim pool
And that happened one year and one month before the signing of the Declaration of Independence.
josie glabach
Yes.
unidentified
But a few more months.
tim pool
The Battle of Washington and Conquer?
josie glabach
Yeah, that was April 19th.
tim pool
People think that the Declaration started the war.
It did not.
josie glabach
Nope, it didn't.
Nope.
Those were the first battles.
And after that was Bunker Hill, which was June 18th, I believe.
And that was a loss, a Patriot loss, 1775.
And that was a Patriot loss.
But it's celebrated in Boston because of how I don't know.
I don't like that war because it was a Patriot loss.
And also they took a lot of Joseph Warren passed away.
He was a doctor.
And he would have been like Sam Adams or John Hancock.
He would have been a name everybody knew.
And he was incredible, incredible man, incredible doctor.
And he ended up, he was given the position of like general for this war.
And he's like, I didn't earn this.
He's like, I'm going to go fight on the front lines where I belong.
And he ended up, he ended up dying.
And then he was buried in a shallow grave.
And then they like desecrated his body.
And it was, it was brutal.
And he didn't get buried the way he should have been buried until nine months later.
And the way that they identified him, he was Paul Revere's best friend.
The way they identified him was that Paul Revere had done early dental surgery on him and like put in a tooth wired with gold.
And so it was the first recorded history of identifying somebody based on dental work.
unidentified
Wow.
phil labonte
I didn't know Paul Revere was a dentist.
josie glabach
Yeah.
And Paul Revere named one of his sons after him a year later.
tim pool
Could you imagine just like if you went back in time to the Battle of Lexington and Concord with like one AK-47 and just handed it to like one random militiaman being like, here's how you fire it.
It's got a 30-round magazine.
Here's a handful of extra or just one belt-fed belt-fed machine guns are awesome.
josie glabach
You give it to the swamp fox only.
tim pool
Honestly, I feel like if you gave them one, I don't know, like AR-15 with maybe 100 rounds, there would not have been a battle like the Conquered.
That one guy would just pop off everybody as they're walking down the street and that'd be the end of it.
Because they'd be marching and they would go pop, pop, pop, pop, pop, and they'd just start collapsing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Or 150 BMG round.
josie glabach
Do you know why?
Do you know why Paul Revere rode?
He didn't ride to warn them about the battle.
His purpose of riding was to warn John Hancock and Sam Adams to get the hell out of there because they were hiding in Lexington.
phil labonte
Oh, really?
josie glabach
Yep.
And so it was another one of the riders, and I can't remember his name off the top of my head right now.
Another one of the riders that he rode with that actually did the warning.
So there were four riders total.
And one of them was sent to go down to like Pennsylvania.
And then the other three were sent to do the Lexington and Concord route.
So the other rider made it to Lexington.
He warned everybody while Paul Revere was doing his job.
And then he ended up getting booted off his horse.
And so it was like this one rider, Samuel something, that made it to both Lexington and Concord.
We don't know about him.
The only reason we really know about Paul Revere is because of Henry Wadsworth Longfellow's poem.
unidentified
And why?
tim pool
And what did Paul Revere famously yell as he rode?
josie glabach
The regulars are coming.
Indeed.
tim pool
It's funny that people were like, he would yell, the British are coming.
It's like, why are they coming?
josie glabach
They're British.
unidentified
Exactly.
josie glabach
That's not spooky at all.
tim pool
The Americans are coming, huh?
josie glabach
He actually, when he went to the house to get to tell John Hancock and Sam Adams, he showed up and they had a guard there.
And the guard was like, show yourself.
And John Hancock was still up because he never slept.
And he was like, I'm not afraid of you, Revere.
And that's like recorded that that conversation happened.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm not afraid of you.
And he was like, I get no respect.
phil labonte
So he was a silversmith.
josie glabach
Yes.
phil labonte
He was a silversmith.
josie glabach
Yeah, these men.
And he was also an artist.
So he actually made a lot of these.
It wasn't like they drew on paper, really.
It was like tablets or tiles that he would make.
And he made a lot of these.
tim pool
He had 16 kids.
josie glabach
Yes, he did.
He had two wives.
So the first one had six kids and the second one had eight kids.
First wife passed away and he remarried the second one and she had eight kids and raised those six.
Yep.
tim pool
Damn.
josie glabach
A whole ton of kids.
I bet you at least one of us in this room came from one of his kids.
tim pool
That's crazy.
Anyway, Meme Smith, did your question get answered?
Do you want to add anything or shine anything out?
unidentified
Yeah, Dan answered my question and also told me why I am happy that I ordered some 1776 coffee so I can try and get some of that Josie revolutionary war knowledge in my head.
josie glabach
Legend has it that you will.
unidentified
As far as shouting anything out, I'm Shane H. Wilder, like everywhere on the internet.
I do post memes.
I do post short films.
I just posted a short day making fun of the dumbasses who don't understand that Tim is trolling everybody on Twitter.
And I promoted to The Millionaire's Riding Journey.
So if y'all want to check that out, y'all can.
tim pool
Right on.
josie glabach
Thanks for calling in, brothers for calling.
unidentified
Yep.
Have a happy 4th of July, guys.
phil labonte
I love you, man.
tim pool
All right.
Next up, we have Camp Wild Adventures.
unidentified
What is up?
Hey, how's it going?
josie glabach
How are you?
phil labonte
Hello.
unidentified
Good, good.
Fifth time calling in.
phil labonte
Well, thank you very much.
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
My question, well, first of all, I'm excited to start celebrating America Month here starting tomorrow.
That's exciting.
There you go.
But my question is, so Tim, in your morning segment about the ACLU suing Trump over birthright citizenship, you talked about the district courts, rightfully so, don't have the authority to say people can or can't have machine guns to combat feral hog problems.
Yeah.
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